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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Good morning, welcome to like it or not? What We're
free to tell the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
And not care who doesn't like it. Rebecca, how you're
doing looking like sunshine, the sunshine shining in the back.
You got the sunshine colors own? What's happening?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Sunshine wherever that song? Joy and pain? No joy like
that and pain there it is. It's like sunshine and rain.
Thank you, for getting me together.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Thank you for this joy there is.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, I know that, thank you for giving me together.
I can't disrespect Mais and Frankie Beverly because we gots
amazed that group was named Maize and Frankie Beverly. But
black folks.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Say, Frankie Beverly amazed.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
That's ridiculous. We know we don't never do right. We
don't never do right.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
We don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Somebody said nobody and then black folks, is it over
there raining? By y'all? Somebody was in another country? We
always is it over there rain?

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And by y'all, listen, person, is it raining?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know, it's so like the way we want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
We're gonna say it the way we want to say.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Is it over there raining? By y'all. First of all,
this person is in Japan.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
You're you're like, why why are you doing that?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Do you Good morning guys? And how are you being?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
How? Look?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
How was your weekend? I know we didn't catch up
with you guys on Saturday, tie tied and catching up
on some of the work. I'm dropping a video today, Ben,
you dropped a new series which I think is amazing.
Tell us about it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
See I got actually see I didn't even tell you
about the first the the you know what it is.
It's it's it's me coming into my full self, Rebecca.
I am, and for some time I've had to be
equal parts ignorant and enlightened, peaceful and at war. So

(02:54):
this today, actually I'm dropping videos that are just kind
of honestly, I'm going for blood. I'm coming for Maga
in such a way that, you know, in the name
of Jesus, I really, you know, God forgive me if
I'm wrong, but I'm trying to gut them and fillay
them and lead them for rhetorical dead when I'm done

(03:15):
with this video series. But then on the other side,
the one I'm really happy about and excited about is
that Hey pastor Ben series. We have been getting emails
and d ms from people who are looking for not
just advice, Rebecca, you know, advice politically, you know, with
a lot of folks who are struggling with what it

(03:36):
is to be a Christian in this Maga era of
mega nationalists Christianity, people who are just you know, sometimes
folks just needed somebody to listen to and talk to.
And and so I'm going to share the good. You know,
I think there's some really heartwarming conversations and so on

(04:00):
the one hand, jabb these devils. On the other hand,
you know, it's it's it's really good to see people
kind of Honestly, I'm not gonna say pour their souls out,
because I know there's a there's so many layers to people.
So it's they're not sharing everything with me, but they're
certainly sharing a huge part of them with me, and

(04:22):
I'm happy to read and reply to them. And then
they've given me permission, you know, those that gave me
permission to share, and uh, that's what we're gonna start doing.
So that's coming up.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
No, I love that. I think that's gonna actually be helpful.
It's almost a form of ministry. I think that a
lot of people who do work in the space right
now need to balance it out. And knowing that you're
helping people, even if it's just one by one individually
or however, I think that is the bigger picture. I
want to make sure that I'm not sewing discords like

(04:54):
division and you know, malpractice of people's souls, yeah, you know,
or mental or just misinformation just because this is something
that the salaciousness is wins. I want to be if
I'm going to be responsible in the space, I want
to be responsible to make you key key, to love

(05:14):
on you, and also to combat the misinformation in the
political space as well. I know it's hard to balance
out for some people who, like we were just discussing,
who want to be in a place of you know,
I don't want to be online, but again, I gotta
know what I'm doing, and we're combating the Shade Room,
which I don't know if we saw this particular last

(05:35):
few days, they have been up in flames on the internet.
Have you seen that?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
No? I haven't. What's going on with them? The good good?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I'm sorry they Oh, I'll tell you they've been blocked
for two years by me.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Decided two years ago, which feels like just yesterday. I
remember when I decided. I was like, I just can't.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
And maybe it's because uh, and y'all know, because if
y'all been following this show long enough, we have had
our grieving is with the Shade Room.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
We used to actually post up their stuff as are
the source of you.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Know, information at one point, but it went from being
our sources of information to being just a full on,
delacious site to being pro maga. I thank you, Ben,
Thank you Ben.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I saw the games they were playing, you could tell.
I don't know they got to check, but certainly a
whole lot of time.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I ain't getting on I ain't getting one from them.
So yeah, So basically what happened with the Shade Room,
So you're right, Ben, I could speak up and take
their pro maga.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I ain't never scared.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I don't block them for two years that energy ain't
been on me. But the Shade Room actually was under
fire on social media, and the only social media that
I'm pretty much on is is threads. I'm sorry to
Blue Sky that I check in every once a year,
but I'm on Threads and it's just nobody can tell me.

(06:58):
And of course this is from the story that we're
gonna go to and that that's very important. But every
time my logs into Blue Sky, it's just like hello, hello,
anybody here here be like whoop, and then here damn
it is and you'd be like, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Some people are here, suck people.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Some of my people up in here stuck by saying
like that's how you realize your people are in the
room and so then it's your email.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
No, I was trying to do it without I didn't
realize it's gonna be so big and bulky and ugly.
Shame on, Shame on stream Yard for making banners. It's ugly.
But but somebody in the chat room, see Brandy, said
hang on, Brandy, touch my heart real quick. I'm sor sorry,
we're all over the place, said my soul has a leak,

(07:56):
and so I was like, you know, email me, Hey
Pastor Been at gmail dot Okay, okay, that's the only
reason I did it.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, for the comment any of the comments that want
to speak and talk to us. Now, Ben is doing
this very great segment. I think it's gonna be great.
It's hate because it was right here. It's Haypastor Been
at gmail dot com. This is our commercial Hay Pastor
Been at gmail dot com for any of our viewers
who have questions, want anything answered, even want any advice

(08:25):
from Pastor Been on how to maneuver in the space
or anything else that's in general.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Let me ask you what I don't do though, what
I don't do uh, And I'm gonna see this to use.
You know, if you need advice on like marriage, I
got you, but like just regular life and relationships and
all the regular stuff. Like you go ahead and see
Rebecca overhere on this side, because you know, I don't

(08:51):
you know, I kind of got married at at the
right young age of thirty ahead you were thirty, yeah,
twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Oh okay, well I'm thirty five. Donna ask me for nothing,
no relate. I'm still trying to figure out what's going
on in these streets and and and and I'm out
of the streets. But we're trying to figure out. But
in you, I know, you can.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Bring yourself back because we were on threads and the
how you know.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But I'm going to bring it back because I got
my notes right up here and so on threads, and
I saw that the congregation on threads, you know, as
they always do, began to flip and find something to
hold on to and and and make noise about it.
And then and a few days ago, I want to
say two days ago. It was was that a day ago?
I want to say it was two days ago the

(09:36):
rally on Donald Trump's birthday, so they were covering it. Okay,
it was Saturday, so they were covering it and I
don't know, but I've seen people post and it has
since been deleted by the Shade Room, but Google hasn't forgotten.
So even though they try to delete the the body
of it, the skeleton and the code of that story

(09:58):
still lives on uh. And it's basically the Shade Room
had posted first in their stories happy Birthday to Donald Trump,
and then they said rain where or the rain Don't Stop.
It's a simple Google band. If you google the Shade
Room and Donald Trump, I think it'll come up as
their first story. It's like the rain Ain't stopping nothing
type of thing. As Donald Trump is still going on

(10:20):
with his parade. And while some people may think it's
them being unbiased, that's not true, especially with the pro
primarily black or the audience, I would say, and right
now they've moved from being mostly millennials who created that
platform to generation Z. And I only bring this.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Up because Queen, if you could drop a link.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Okay, no problem and maybe probably fully deleted now, But
I had googled it, and I said, you know, the
devil works, but God works harder, and so let me
see the Shade Room. But I say that to say, oh,
here you go the Shade Room story about Trump parade.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I can see some of it though, I hang on.
I could see it in the search engine, but it
doesn't give me the whole.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
They changed up the title and everything. It's not even
it Trump military parade to start, amitt. It wasn't that
it said no rain on his parade. Uh he still
They basically were.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Saying, hang on, look at this one though, because this
this is the one they have deleted. Watch as I
click through this one.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's the Yeah, that's the that's the post itself it deleted,
and there was a.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Fearless patriot guiding our nation into the true golden age
of American prosperity.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's the one. It was his birthday post. And that
was also they had a full they had a full
article right up for it, you know, for that post.
And what happened was they removed it. So is there
a black sky feed? No blue Sky? I don't know, John,
what's black sky?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
He's just messing with you.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Oh go confuse me AnyWho. These other things that the
Shade Room does, they amplify Trump without any pushback. Right,
the pushback isn't enough for them to have stopped because
They've been doing this for a very long time. Their
relationship with the White House, even with Kamala Harris. Sometimes
I was like it was too like are we calling
her out? And at times they were not saying things

(12:21):
that they should when they should have spoken up.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
The interviews are were very lackluster.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
They weren't things that were pulling out information out of
the potential candidates. But there was very very pro maga
things happening. They've been posting videos and quotes from Trump,
including his juneteen comment and his recently black targeted campaigns.
They post them, the ads, they post them, and nobody's
been saying anything. So many have been talking about this

(12:45):
as it being irresponsible. They've been saying that this has
been damaging. However, no pushback really happens, and nobody goes
to really consume their news outside of the Shade Room.
And I'm gonna say nobody. I mean in this particular
age group, Millennials are fleeing like the great migration out
from the Shade Room and into spaces and following people

(13:07):
that have more of you know, credible you know sources
and things of that sort. The Shade Room is just
a very big blog site. That has access to huge spaces.
Over twenty five million people are within that site. And
again they went from a millennial audience to now a

(13:28):
Generation Z audience. So they platform conservative voices. Is there
something wrong with platform and conservative voices in this day
and eight and twenty twenty five, absoidamn Louie. Absolutely, they're
giving space to right wing or adjacent like figures like
Candice Owens, Larry Elder and other them and other people
like the Breakfast Club does without any context, without any pushback,

(13:50):
without any challenge, and they're saying like, oh, we're just
a space to be free. But yet I've seen when
they've had liberal people on there, they go down their throat,
they ask them questions, they actually do a little bit
of search on the person that's coming to sit there.
We've seen this in the Breakfast Club once again. We've
seen this on the Shade Room. But when we do
see when right wing people come up, there's not really
a challenge. But you, as a black journalist and who

(14:12):
is covering from a black platform, it is a disservice
when you are not challenging the people who are absolutely
anti black, doing anti black law and platforming them on
this in the space where people are just saying, well,
people just don't think alike. It is not just that.
It is not just that you are telling folks that
it is okay to platform people that look at you

(14:33):
and think er and think you don't deserve and are
actively citing bills and walking in spaces and places that
do not see you as a person. That is problematic.
So again it's spark concerned.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
The third thing that I have pointed out is the
audience misinformation. When you do not provide fact checks and disclaimers.
It is adjacent, if not equal to two x formulated Twitter.
So it begins to basically where you boost up the
content that is misleading followers. We can't we don't have

(15:10):
that information check tag on the shade on excuse me Instagram.
So the Shade Room just funk. There is the post
right there, Ben right there, great sir, So this is
one of the posts. Excuse me for the thought, but
I've seen that come up. But this is the post
that's the Shave Room had initially posted and they deleted.
This is their happy Birthday President of Donald J. Trump happen,
and they reposted the White House's quote. Of course, Happy Birthday,

(15:33):
Donald Trump, which he probably wrote to himself, forty fifth
and forty seventh President of the United States, A fearless
patriot guiding our nation into the true That was you.
That's what you were reading. And this is the true
Golden Era or age of American prosperity, prosperity and strength.
That ain't for him. Now, what I will say is
why the Shade Room posted that because they get a

(15:55):
check salaciousness views. It gives you some money. And we're
gonna go to who owns the Shade Room and things
of that sort in a second. But the Shade Room,
it basically boosts these types of contents and then mislead
their followers, many who are not aware of the political undertones.
You know this, and I know this. Best people are dumb, right,

(16:21):
people are dumb. They are They are ignorant on purpose
because it's coming from their favorite page, their favorite person,
their faith. Like if Kanye says something right now, people
are gonna be so dumb and be like, that's just Kanye. Yo,
I missed the old Kanye. But yeah, I know he
created you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
He he You know, Kanye always been that man.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
People don't really see him for who he is, but
I recognize him, see that we're gonna get that and
they're gonna believe everything he says and take it as bible.
Some people look at the platform the Shade Room as such.
They'll say, you know, y'all ain't here about this, this
and this and this and this, and like, where'd you
get that the Shade Room. You should definitely double check
your information because I am one hundred percent sure it

(17:05):
is Maga led, Maga centered, and it's just something that's
giving them a coin. And it's either that or them
posting things that are shady, which is the Shade Room.
Also the algorithm and engagement. That's what they focus on
over the ethics of everything. Right, some people are arguing
that they're chasing engagement. Some people are saying that and

(17:27):
they know that it's political political content, but it's the
controversial takes that they're taking as a black as a
black page. I know they started as gossip, but they aren't.
There's never a challenge anywhere. They don't feel the need
to challenge just to rage bait. But it generates the
high traffic. And what does high traffic generate, which I

(17:49):
wish we had over here on our page would soon come.
It generates dollars. And then what that man said, juicyj
bands will make heut dance. Bands will make her dance.
Yeah that's what.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Wait wait wait, I almost bands is gonna make me dance.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
So the shade room has been shuking and jogging for
a Donald Trump. Hanni said it trump checks signing trump checks.
That's more important than actually leading Black people and giving
them more information, telling them how to fight, telling them
how to get themselves together in this time that it's

(18:27):
going to exclude them. That's going to exclude them. Now
here's a key part that people don't know, and I
know that in this latest video, I'm gonna job, it's
gonna be about the xenophobia around this Trump band that's
coming from the Black American.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Group of people who are FBA or consider themselves.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Atos or just not wanting to use this moment just
to bring out xenophobia, saying that they're a part of
the ninety two percent, which that that shouldn't lead you
to be xenophobiic because ninety two percent are a part
of all the other countries and nations anyway. But you'll
see that in my video that's gonna later on today
after this show. But I want you guys to know

(19:03):
that the owner of the Shade Room is a Nigerian woman.
That's not to go blast her, that's not to go
disrespect her. And Jesse who did talk about that in
that post that you just put put up in It's
basically that she is an African woman that does not
use social media. And I'm gonna give you a little backstory.

(19:25):
I cover this and this is not for you to
be like, oh, she's Nigerian. I'm telling you why it's
problematic because while she is Nigerian, she's American, right, She's
an American woman and she's.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like me, and she.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Made this. She is the owner of it. She is
the person that you know has people working for her.
But she does not be on social media. She doesn't
cover what goes on it or in it or around it.
But she's responsible for this platform being what it is.
The only time that she's gotten online people can recognize
her after years was when Cardi B had called out

(20:00):
the platform for misinformation on her and she got legal
involved and she said, I don't even want to go
after the people who reported this on me. I want
to go after the person who owns it and who's
allowing this misinformation to come onto this platform. I remember
this a few years ago, earlier on in the beginning
of the pandemic, Cardi B went against the woman the

(20:21):
Wine Down with the One Line Down, Lady Tasha Kay,
and sued her and also went after the Shade Room,
and they went on. I remember on Twitter Cardi B
was like, I'm calling you out specifically and added her
that woman came from her rock. This woman who owns
it came from her rock where she does not even

(20:42):
she's not even on social media because of her own
mental even. But it's owning a platform that creates where
people just consume so much misinformation, hate, disrespect, all kinds
of things in one space.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
And this is not the only space. The Shade woman
just one of so many.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
But and she called she came out there just to
go back and forth with Cardi B. She came from
her rock, from her vacation. I think she said, I'm
actually on vacation, and I got on. I logged into
this Twitter account just so I can address you. She
said that to her, And so this is what I'm
saying it's problematic to know that even the person who

(21:20):
owns it doesn't want to consume what's on this page,
takes your dollars, goes on vacation, make sure that her husband,
her children, all the people don't consume what's happening on
the shade room. Yet they still create this dangerous space
of misinformation towards Black people, to keep them dumb and
to keep them ignorant, to keep them angry, to keep

(21:43):
them in a discord that that is very divisive, to
also keep them in diaspora wards, which you, being a
Nigerian woman, is crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yes, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
You cannot be the person that is a Nigerian, but
that I understand, probably been through so much creating something
that is gonna be beneficial to Black people as a whole,
that can bring the diaspora together. And yet you are
the sole provider. For one day, you celebrate in the
Haitian flag. To the next post being maga, to the
next post praising Donald Trump, who is saying that Haitians

(22:20):
are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to
black immigrants and Africans are right there with them, and
you are okay with this, And then the common sections
are nothing but diaspora rewards, disrespecting every black immigrant group.
Come on, come on, they begin to see disrespect Americans,

(22:40):
black Americans and them. Why do we want that kind
of discord within a black owned page.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Come on, we good money, queen. It pays good money.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
It pays good money.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And listen, I'm gonna cut you off because because you
want to tear and I actually absolutely love it. I'm
here for it. Shout out to you. Read that comment.
I loved you. Uh in the private jet though, as
you're gonna laugh.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Oh okay, okay, that said you.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
When you said that she doesn't even consume her own
product reminds me of a good drug dealer. Drug dealers,
you know you, You could, you could poison the entire community, right,
but you ain't gonna take your own product. It sounds
like that's what she's doing. That's number one. Then too.
You keep using that word discord, and it is it
is so perfect for this. Let me make sure I
got the translation that this is the wrong translation. I

(23:27):
gotta get it for you in the King James version. Uh,
because you know me, because I do believe earnestly that
a lot of what we're dealing with is spiritual wickedness
in high places. Let me show you exactly what she's
doing and what the Shade Room does right here on
y'all screen. Six things the Lord does hate, Yet seven
are an abomination to him. A proud look, a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devides, a

(23:49):
wicked imagination, feet that be swift running towards mischief. That's
the Shade Room. The false witness that speakers lies, and
he that's sow a discord amongst the breath. And that's uh,
that's the Shade Room. That's all.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's absolutely what it is. And I think that if
people understand that this is what they're doing, is sewing discord,
they need to move away from it. Now. I can
name other places. Uh, you have Spiritual Word who actually
started off? And you please pull up Spiritual Word, So
I want you all to know. I'm going to give
you all a little basis of what it started off
as and what it is today. Spiritual Word being a

(24:25):
page and I don't even know who runs it, but
we know it's a black person. Don't know if their
male or female wasn't able to get that much information.
Up until now, I didn't look. I didn't dig deep enough,
because all I knew was that when Spiritual Words started
about ten years ago, I was living in New York
City and Brooklyn and I they used to be people
who were combating what was online at the time, and
it wasn't even that bad then, but putting up things

(24:48):
that were just Bible versus and and they used to
be a quote page and a Bible verse page and
that type of thing. And then they became a page
that was cutting people out while posting Bible verses. And
then what it did was bring two sides of the
world together. Peoples like, well, damn, I can read the
Bible verse and still you know, and still they cut
some folks out. This is what I like to see.

(25:09):
And then so that's how they started gaining their money.
Then they started taking the shade rooms pla like, uh,
the shade room's formula, excuse me. And then that's how
they started to win. They mixed in a lot of it.
They've mixed in the shade room formula. They mixed in
their own Bible versus every now and again, and that

(25:30):
is what is happening. We're seeing that when it's the
spiritual word. Then there's whichever one that that man owns.
Forget Jason Lee.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yes, while you fix your let me pull up Hollywood
on lot. You know what. And we've actually discussed this, Rebecca,
while you fixing your camera. They are masters of the
bait and switch. What they will do, they'll draw you
in exactly like you said, they'll draw you in. He said,
what's my brother name? Jay? Not my brother but Jason

(26:04):
Lee Hollywood Unlock. And then they go into some foolishness,
like some high key And it's one thing I think
what we have to be mindful of is that we
kind of allow them to bring that gossiply messy kind
of foolishness to the mainstream through social media, and then

(26:27):
we were shocked when they flip and turned from that
into misinformation machines, right pro Trump? And then who's going
to pay you the best money to be a misinformation machine? Trump? MAGA.
I don't know if all these people are getting paid specifically,
but even if they're not getting a check directly from MAGA,

(26:49):
they're certainly getting money off the misinformation because that's what
drives the internet right now in Magaland.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Absolutely and when you are doing the work right.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
People get online and be like they're doing this for
black people and then doing this for whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
I think that we need things to stay.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
For the culture growing up having our Tom Joiners are
Michael Bazin's people who were on the radio who would
interview black people and if they would have a debate,
it would be one that would be informative and even
if they would believe that tobit upset, somebody would be
able to choose a side from whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
But they always platformed black.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
People, black journalists, black actors, black singers in the space.
It's always been that as light skinned as Tom joyinna
is right, he was one.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Of the blackest to ever do within that space.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
And when he was curating anything political, he made sure
to keep it a buck. What was going to help
people and what was not. I've seen that growing up.
So can it be done one hundred percent? Hasn't been
done one hundred percent? If we can even go back
to an RP Ananda Lewis who died, who was in
MTV host and used to be on teen Summit and

(28:01):
bt the short lived show on BTU. But even then
the beginning of b E T when well for the millennials,
we know, for us coming up and watching even the
eighties babies. Yea'll millenniums too, but you know, just eating
that in that space, you know, just seeing even even
the late seventies, I'll give it to y'all too, but
even that, just seeing what was happening in that time

(28:23):
where we had a space where they were curating conversations,
even when we were seeing U Al Sharpton shucking and jiving,
you know, plus size Al Sharpton in the in the
windbreakers that.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Make time with the perm that's that real nights.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
And he used to be cussing the cameras out knowing
he was selling people money.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
But we would see that on BT who was covering
that we.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Were I remember the nightly news and I want to say,
what was that woman's name?

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Such a beautiful woman with the short haircut.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
They used to give us news. They used to put
it at eleven o'clock at night, but they were doing
news with her, a black woman with the short haircut.
I'm not talking about seed this world. I'm talking about
the actual woman where you know, with the short and
that is not the woman I'm talking about, but that
is our Sharpton. If people don't recognize I know they
only know our sharping today. That is our shopton that
you used to steal people money. And look at the camera.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Now we don't know allegedly.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'm gonna say allegedly allegedly. But he used to I
didn't have nothing wrong with it at the time. I
wasn't mad at it because he said to the camera,
ain't the other people selling our money? Either way?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
He used to say he was young and not playing
with folks.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I will say that. But we had news where they
were covering what was happening in the black communities and
they were not shucking and driving where it And I
think right now would be a pivotal time to for
that formula to be winning right now, because we were
getting our entertainment. We were getting our news, and even
though they were pushing the news segment to the late night,
but we were getting our entertainment. We were getting our

(29:49):
news where we had a place where it was functioning
and where it wasn't only that, where we had our
own shows and where we would have conversation and magazines
and things. And I think this is the very time
for us to be able to have our own Juneteenth
should not be something that white people have the day
off for. I got an email saying the front office
is going to be closed where I live, not you
all white folks only, it's only it's not one black

(30:10):
person that work in the front. What are you taking
the day off to go do?

Speaker 6 (30:14):
WHOA?

Speaker 1 (30:15):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
They? We need to have our black electives and congregations
and universities because right now MAGA Marva should not be
dipping into the state funding four FAMU so that they
can they can honor her.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Paycheck for the year, her salary.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Do you want to say what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Then yes, I'm here, I hear what you're saying. And
then ain't getting too I'm just I'm disagreeing. Go ahead,
don't let me slow you down.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
But I'm saying right now we're looking at and and
Marva Johnson is who is now randomly, uh not randomly
politically placed at Florida A and M University on behalf
of MAGA to do their dirty work to show that
they will dismantle schools, not only countries, not only cities,

(31:06):
not only states, not only programs, but they will dismantle
black schools as well, we keep letting white folks in
and we keep shutting jiving and doing their dirty work,
there will be nothing that the audience can do right
to combat this when it's time, because they so dumb,
they're so ignorant, they don't know. They're not being led

(31:28):
to fight.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
They're being led to consume, consume, consume misinformation, propaganda, things
that are anti black, packaging the way that fits policy,
and it's not true.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Lots of division, lots of stress, lots of I don't care.
I'm just gonna rest. I'm just gonna do this, and
I am all about resting. But to pick up your microphone,
to pick up your computer, your tablet, your telephone, and
to put into the space that is feeding you negativity,
feeding you misinformation, and to put back and give back

(32:03):
from what you're consuming xenophobia. This you got more misinformation
to you have more hate on behalf of MAGA is
literally the plan, That's what it is. This woman they
are they're digging into the funding that goes for Florida
A and M itself and they're putting this hefa. No,

(32:28):
there's literally a MAGA placement, a black Maga placement with
a bad wig a canvas owens, if you will, and
I and that's even disrespect to candas owned too.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Who Marga is. We don't know her, We don't know her.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Came out of nowhere, but she is a Republican pick
ron Desanta's pick out of Florida, and she has a
certain salary that she wanted after coming in last minute
into the for the candidate for president at Florida A and
M University, my alma mater, the number one HBCU of
the nation that is trying to be sucked dry by

(33:06):
MAGA and their goal to take down historical black colleges
and universities, black education, black history. And they're doing it
from the top. They're not even going from the They
ain't even doing it from the bottom bend at BCU.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
They're doing it from the top, all you.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
And they better that's true, They better them not touch
y'all though, But that's the thing they're going for our university,
something that we had to build for ourselves in the
first place, the same way I believe the shade Room
was built for a place for black folks in the
first place. But they're going and infiltrating and people are
just handing it over. They're handing it over. They're handing

(33:50):
it over. They don't care who gets hurt. But capitalism.
That's why we can't And that's what I'm gonna say,
That's why I can never do nothing right together, never,
because we see, we should be in the streets about this.
We should be in the streets about this, not fighting
about mundane things online. They are working hard in the background,

(34:17):
and you just dumb in the common section. You just
dumb and making thoughts.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
On social media. What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Nobody asks you to go fight outside, but what are
you particularly particularly doing for your community? Because the things
that they're dismantling are affecting you, your unborn child, your child,
your baby daddy who's supposed to make payments. You ain't
gonna get none of it. The health care that you need, gone,
the job that you wanted. You can't even afford to
go live in the city to get the health care,

(34:48):
for the job, to get the job, to give you
the health care that you wanted to pay that car.
Nothing for black people, that's what they're saying. Nothing for us. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Sorry, man, Rebecca Azare did not come to play with
y'all this morning. She connected the through line all the
way through that magnificent. It was like a fifteen minute
NonStop rent but stries. They all connected. It was absolutely
brilliant because the through line is this, There's always going
to be some Nigro willing to sell out the best

(35:22):
interest of the black community for a bag. That's what
the through line is. That's what Marva Maga. Larva Maga
is what I call her. Yeah, that's what she is.
That's what the shade room is. I don't know how
y'all feel about ball Alert, but I get the same
similar vibes from ball Alert. Some people might feel a
little differently. I don't know. I get the same vibes

(35:44):
from Hollywood Unlocked. I get the same vibes from all
of these social media platforms. I get the same vibes
from Tarika Nasheed. I get the same vibes from I mean,
is what it is. J Maul Green over in Chicago.
I went to introduce him when he ran from mayor,
but he was on the show. He'd been on the
show plenty of time. Apparently losing the mayor made him

(36:07):
lose his mind, and now he's out here promoting talking
about white sharing a video of white supremacists going after
Jesse Jackson and the elders and Jamal Bryant as they
were out there protesting. I mean these people like Jamal
Briant was the youngest amongst them. We're talking about the

(36:29):
elders like that, the line Jesse Jackson, matter fact, I
should go get the video Jesse Jackson sitting in in
in a wheelchair and Jamaal Green sharing this and I'll
go get it. But the whole point is this is
that there's always somebody for some reason, whether they're getting cash.
I don't know whether they're getting clout most of them
think they're getting clout, or whether they're getting checks. Clicks.

(36:54):
That's what they want, if nothing else, they'll do it
for clicks. They will sell out our people for clicks,
Trump checks, trump checks, trump clicks, clout and cash. And
remember I remember Donald Trump was handing out cash to
the black community back in twenty sixteen, trying to get votes.
And that's when I knew. I said, oh no, we
in troubles.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
He had one hundred dollars over there on Brideway.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
It was six hundred. It wasn't one hundred, it was
six hundred.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh I didn't even hear about that.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
That's way back in the day. That's when they had
the Black Men for Trump something some kind of fool business.
But the point is is, like you said, and you
connected all of the stories, and they all connect one
hundred percent. There's always somebody willing to sell out the
black community, whatever their reason is, even if it's just
angry or jealousy or bitterness, write whatever it is. It's

(37:46):
happening in real time. And while I'm talking about it,
let me just put this on the screen. I might
as well share. Hang on, don't that that? There we go?
This is this is Jamal Green. Jamaal been on our
show many times.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I flew to Chicago.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
On my dimember, my dime, he ain't pay for nothing,
my dime to go introduce him as he was getting
ready to run for mayor in Chicago. And this is
what he said about And I want to give the
whole context, and I play the clip. Please understand. This
is Jamal Green saying, please understand, these old fools don't

(38:19):
represent black people.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Who does you, Jamal?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Is that what you're saying? He said, That's why majority
of these those here are seniors who have been.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Hustling black people for decades.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Really, Jamal, the community don't follow them or support them,
and we need to stop giving them a platform. You
didn't give them a platform. They built a platform.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
Before you were born.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Jet and then he says, yes, people are not fighting
for illegal immigrants, period, and then he slides in illegal
as if that justified. He don't just dislike illegal immigrants.
He's a part of this whole. And we don't want
no immigrants, we don't want no black immigrants. Right, he's
a part of this whole. If you are tether, you
if you ain't born in America, born America. My family

(39:03):
go back eight genera seven generations in the United States
of America. And not all Yallowley, all yallow Way.

Speaker 8 (39:09):
But here's the video.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
This is a white supremacist Ben Berkwam from real from
real America's voice. That's a pro MAGA white supremacist outfit.
And here's what the question was here. They are look
at look at look at our look at our older.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yes, I understand the boycott against target against THEE, but
why is the Rainbow Push coalition supporting illegal aliens? If
illegal aliens disproportionately affect the black community jobs.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Why is the Rainbow Push coalition supporting.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Aliens disproportionately negatively affect the black community.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It is true they take jobs, right, but they take
your jobs legal.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Let me thank you so much for coming out today.
That doesn't make any sense to me. Is you got
a white man you sharing? Jamaal? I got an issue
with this, Jamal Green, y'all tag him. I'll tag them myself.
Matter fact, I clicked this and I'm gonna reply to
it with it. I ain't evenna wait on y'all to
do it. I'm gonna do it myself because I'm calling

(40:21):
all of y'all out. Jamaal. First of all, where is
the evidence that this guy has to suggest Let's just
say they were. Where is the evidence? What? What statement?
What did the Rainbow Push actually say that supports this?
Is a question just.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Out sharing the video or What's he one one with
the camera?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Jamal's one sharing the video. Jamal's one, and he's framing
it as a way to undermine our elders. That's the
biggest problem. Jesse Jackson down there have done done more
work in one season one episode of his life and
let's be clear, forty five minute episode of his life
than j Mal has ever done in the entirety of

(41:04):
his life.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
But go ahead, Rebecca, No, let's be clear. You think
we agree with the things that all these people do.
I don't even care to see the pastor up there
myself for whatever reason, you know. But at the end
of the day, the work that's being done and the
people that are accusing or having some something to say
about it are just. And this is what I compare

(41:26):
Jmal to as far as in the political world. You're
mad because you're not on the other side of that
rope right now because you are a failed mayoral candidate.
So what it is because of that you had to
go on the other side of things that your grift
didn't pay. It is what it is, and now it's
costing you your mental So you don't care if you

(41:48):
get online to just chuck and jive and do the work.
You're somebody who is doing the work in the form
of you being contrarian. You're doing the work for MAGA,
simply doing the work for MAGA. And that's all it
takes is for you to be a bitter person to
get online and to push back about what these people
just standing up there being like, we know, we know

(42:10):
there's a level of pushback that you can do, but
this ain't the one Jamaal, any black person that has
succeeds the same one that he used to praise. If
you just look back, not even so many years ago,
you're now turning your back on or you're now putting in.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
The pathway of Maga.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
And when Maga sees a black person that has switched over,
they resume they're gonna need you to be a real
grifter and they gonna put you on. Jamal, you haven't
been put on yet.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Estate company? You got he he he Listen, listen. I
don't want to get too I don't want to get
to too detailed. I want to get too detailed because
you know, he liked to run up on people. He
ran up on Roland Martin in the church. He like
to run over church, you know what I mean. So,
and actually don't matter either way it goes. But here's
the problem I got when you forward misinformation. Where is

(43:04):
the information that Rainbow Push supports illegal immigrants? Now? Honestly,
I hope they do. I hope they are sheltering and
creating space and sanctuary for every quote unquote illegal alien
on the face of the South side of Chicago. I

(43:25):
hope that they are protecting every single one of them.
You know why, because they are the least of these,
and we have a mandate to do for the least
of these. So I ain't got a problem with it.
But this man ran up and asked a question that
had no context simply to get clicks. And here Jamaal
Green is using that, promoting that, amplifying that, and he's
doing it in order to attack the elders. My boy,

(43:46):
you have no standing. You have no standing in this conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
And even what he said, who made you the voice
of the people? As he says, well, please understand, these
fools don't represent black people, okay, because a lot of
black people turn to them. That's why majority of those
are here are seniors and have been hustling black people
for decades. And now you, as a younger person, a
younger generation, will be somebody who has those Black people.

(44:12):
The community don't follow them. The community don't follow them
or support them. We need to stop giving them a platform.
Jamb The community didn't follow you or support you into
mayor of Chicago, and that's why we need to stop
giving you a platform. You are not fighting for illegal immigrants, period,
That's okay, But and how do you know they're illegal?

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Who said? Who said? Who said? In Chicago?

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Do you know that a Haitian immigrant, right, an immigrant
who came there and probably with our papers, because that
was way back then created Chicago, the same city you
wanted to be mayor of. Please stop playing on people's tops.
Please stop playing on people's tops.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Jamo here, it is here, it is now. I mean
I only want to be like this. I like this,
but I am going to be like this because why not.
He spent so much time hating on Brandon Johnson all
day long and he only got two point two point
two percent of the vote in Chicago. Brandon Johnson got
twenty one point six And I believe that's just that's

(45:14):
the primary.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
And I hate to do that because I don't want
to talk crazy about people. We're just talking about people
how they use their platforms to do that. But in
this instance, when you are spewing out or you are spewing.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Out facts, I'm just giving you actual information on the
carpet over.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
No, no, no, I'm talking about myself as well. Like when
you're spewing out evil and you're responsible for division. We
got to go back and show the record, let the
record reflect, and here we're showing, We're showing why you
are the way you are. We're letting the record reflect
that you are somebody who tried and failed at something,
and then because you failed at something, you have now
been guns blazing. You have now been an op. You

(45:52):
have now been somebody who's been doing the disservice for
the same community that you sore up and down to
protect and fight for because you understood that black people
are not a monolith. But now you are anti everything
that isn't Black American.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
No, anti everything that isn't for him because because Brandon Johnson,
Brandon Johnson is the Mary of Chicago right now is
under attack by all of white supremacy, all of MAGA
because he said that he hired black people. Right and
so here Brandon Johnson is making it clear that he
made a stand for black people, and Jamul Green is constantly,

(46:28):
without fail, attacking that man. Now now here here, I
want to say this one last time. I spent my
money to fly up there and to introduce him for
the campaign because I liked the boy I did. I
liked his energy. I like what he did when he
was on MSNBC. I was one of the first people
to promote him after that. Matter of fact, he sent
me an email or a DM thanking me for supporting them,

(46:49):
all those kinds of things. So this is not And
I got historical beef with like Tarika Na. She like
he been blocking me since like two thousand and three. Tarka,
she'd been hiding for me for a very long time.
I ain't got a history beef with Jamul. My problem
with Ja Maul is that since he lost that race
in Chicago, he'd been on some other stuff. And if
we as black people don't call out our people who

(47:10):
are on a platform who are using their platform for
the worsening of the black community, then we ain't doing
our jobs. As a matter of fact, Rebecca, I think
that's the problem. This is the barbershop thing. This is
what I said about the barber shop a long time ago.
We've been going to barbershops for years, and we've been
letting them talk about conspiracy for years, just talk about

(47:30):
ridiculous stuff. Like, not all of them, some of the
really brilliant conversations. Love going to the barber shop. But
you know there's always that one barber who's over in
the corner who got all the conspiracies, and he the
one that is out talking louder than everybody else, and
all the cool barbers just let.

Speaker 8 (47:46):
Him get away with talking about it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Why because he are people that's our cousin, and them
that's our friend, and them that's my boy.

Speaker 8 (47:52):
We go back to high school, and we have not.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Been correcting misinformation in the black community for a long time.
And this what this Ben Berkham from Real America's Voice
did was disinformation. It was on purpose.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
And Ja Maul using his platform to amplify it and
then to attack.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
The black elders is disrespectful of the highest order.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
And there's no respect anymore.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
Ben.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
I hate to sound like that person, but there's no
respect anymore. And even these men, there's levels of disrespect
I have for these these people. But to be in
the front of white people in disrespect our elders, knowing
that we do have a level of reverence for the
people who came before us, who gave us the way
to be able to do this. We know all these
people who do not have clean slates and things of

(48:40):
that sort. We understand that, and we will hold them
accountable as such. But to be in the place where
you are freely giving in the misinformed manner information or
making it seem like, you know, based just taking the
help of MAGA to push your agenda. But it's still
pushing Maga's agenda. It's still continued to put the agendas

(49:00):
of their, their forefathers and the people before them. This
is exactly what the slave masters wanted. This is the division.
They wanted you to stay ignorant while you thought you
was the smart one and the one that saym Master,
I I do this, And you wanted to be the
one that sent your center yourself when Harriet Tubman was
doing the movement.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
You wanted to be the one with your name on
the marquis.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Enough, now you did. You did argue with me for
a couple of years about your name that mark that.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Day I sat next to you on me it should
have been there been, But we're not going there. It
took a long time, shouldn't without a don't beat the
stat too. But I came here and my name is
now on the marquee. But that's not what I'm talking
about right now, we're talking about the people that need
to send to themselves, and I just wanted to be
on the side of it, not in the sense I

(49:50):
wanted to be right there on the.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I don't. I'm be honest with you, I don't care
who the black quote unquote leader or leaders are. I
just need them to win, and I need them to
win on behalf of black people. And so if it
ain't me, then God all means, let it be whoever
it is, and let's support them.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
I do care who they are. But if they are
going for great gun.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
They if they got it down for black people, like genuinely,
if they are genuinely in it for the betterment of
black people, I don't care who don't. I don't care how,
I don't care what money they make. I don't care how.
As long as they are in it for the betterment
of black people, I am going to salute them and
I'm going to support them. It does not have to
center me, and it should not have to center anybody.

(50:37):
Matter of fact, there should no longer be such a
thing called the black leader. It needs to be black
leaders and everyone who has a responsibility a platform. If
you don't start perceiving yourself as a black leader who
has a responsibility to share the correct information. Make sure

(50:57):
that you never under any circumstances. I don't care how
bad it hurts you, you better not ever align with
white supremacy. What you're fighting immigrants for when the real
problem is white supremacy? What you write the lgbtquy a
community for when the real problem is that is white supremacy.
What are you fighting any of these different groups for
when the real problem is white supremacy? How dare you

(51:21):
punch down or even across.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
When that white devil has been over this globe since
time immemorial and you think you gonna win by fighting
against Nigerians versus fundamental foundational Black Americans.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Thank you, Ben, because somebody gotta hear, and they're gonna
keep hearing it all week long. You probably gonna hear
it all week all year long. Because I'm sick and
tired of it. I'm gonna call it out when I
see it. We don't need to be fighting against each other.
Rep your set, but we got somebody to fight. We
got a system to break down and dismantle one that's
all right, dismantled our communities one that's already dismantled, our
health cares, one that's already dismantled, our mental one that's

(52:05):
already dismantled, our housing. Everything is done for us. Give
it up, Give it up. Stop turning the swords on
each other. Give it up. Enough and been talking about
enough what's happening in La, because I know that this
is the fact that the FBA and all them says
that they don't want to do. This is what's happening
in La. You got people who are fighting for immigrants,

(52:27):
and here is what the police and ice are doing.
That's an elderly man that's been pushed down. You're talking
about elderly Ben. This is an elderly man that's being
pushed down. This was shared by Lance, who works with
me with left this mafia, Lance of the Serfs, and
he shared this and I thought this was crazy. First,
this old man, this older man gets hit with the baton,
pushed by the horse and then pushed down. You know

(52:50):
it don't take nothing but little brush. He was strong
enough to take the push from the horse and the
baton on the aw. They done pushed him down. And
this is for fighting for the rights of legal immigrants.
Not only legal immigrants, people, humanity of all immigrants. I
don't care if they're illegal, illegal in between on the
side them in the middle of paperwork, people humanity, and

(53:12):
they're being abused, they're they're threatened, they're threatened with the horses,
they're threatened with batons. Then they're physically abused, hands on,
body pushed, pushed, and y'all out here fighting saying, well,
my ans, this is going. But it's one thing. And
this is what I said to you yesterday, Ben, once
we were speaking, I would take this from you. I

(53:33):
would take this from people because in the beginning when
kammaa loss, of course, we were all in our emotions
and our feelings, especially black women, just stressed out, all
of us, just damn sad, Ben, I would understand. In
that time, we said we wanted to rest because we
knew that the days ahead would be hard, and we
knew that right now we just needed to rest. We
didn't know when, so all we could say is that
we are going to lay our burdens down right here

(53:55):
and lay with it. That's it. Now, when we started
to realize that the shade rooms are continuing a little stronger,
a little harder with Maga's work, and the streets started
to become so more discord. When it came to the
idea of the diaspora wards, we started seeing that come
out just out of nowhere, right, But it's always been there,
but now everyone's talking about it. Donald Trump saying that

(54:16):
the black immigrant group is indeed the worst immigrant group.
We also seen it under the Biden administration on how
he treated black immigrant So this is just not a
Trump thing, although Trump is going harder and calling them
out by name. We have seen that the system in
America only functions under immigration policy when it's not black.
It excludes black There is no real immigration policy that

(54:40):
includes black people and putting black people in a here
systemically with due process because there's never any due process
written in for black people. Let's be clear about that.
But I say all this to say, this is what
we're seeing, this is what people are fighting, this is
what people are fighting for, and you I would rather
the people who say they're not going to fight, just say,
as a black person, because I understand this as a

(55:01):
black person being the one out there, I know that
I will be targeted differently than the ones out there.
I would be abused, probably a little bit more, a
little bit, you know, the way they look at a Mexican,
they'll probably look at me worse, because again, they don't
know if you're black behind us out there as an
immigrant or as a Black American. They don't give a damn.
They just see an e R. Please understand, Come on,
please understand. They're not looking to check if you're a

(55:23):
part of the ninety two percent or the eighty something percent.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
They're not looking to check if you are FBA.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
They are not looking to check if you are a
those they see ae R. They don't care. Wide nose,
full lips, almond eyes. Come on, your black behind is
going wherever they say go. They already treat black American
systemically incorrectly. They already treat anything black in this country,

(55:51):
in whatever system is treated like the worst. There's no
need for us to turn on each other and say
you're not my type of black, you're not my type
of black. Right now, it's not the damn time, because
they're looking at us like you're still all black. We
don't care what type of black you are Latino, because
they because now there's some kind of imaginary concept that

(56:13):
black only comes an American in the online space, who
please hang it up again. I was telling you Ben
online is dumb. Yes, they're dumb. They will stick with
dumb because it validates their stupidity and their thoughts and
theirs in aphobia. They're they're prejudiced. It validates that for them. Oh,

(56:35):
y'all just hate a messenger. No, the message is wrong, sister, brother,
the message is wrong. We do I hate the messenger.
The message is wrong. That's right, and that's it's all
I gotta say about that. I'm gonna fight and my
black behind gonna fight from the inside. I'm gonna fight
these rights. I'm gonna sign petitions, I'm gonna talk this talk.

(56:56):
I'm gonna make a do what to do. I'm going
to secretly because even in my city, I was secretly
this weekend walking with the No Kings, and I was
talked for that to be in my neighborhood. I thought
I was going out for brunch, but the Lord had
other plans because they was out there protests and there
I was with them. You just never you just didn't
even know. Ben in my predominantly white space where I

(57:17):
live at them white folks was outside protesting for the immigrants.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Listen, there's always going to be at the moment that
there should be complete and total solidarity, There's going to
always be operatives there to divide it. It happened in
twenty twenty. I'm never forgetting. I'll call you by name,
Glenn Greenwall, because I've had you on my show, and
I've been on your show plenty of times. I never
would forget asking myself, why is Glenn Greenwall not seizing

(57:42):
this moment to help amplify the protest that is going
on globally? Because this is a prime moment for the
people to rise up against the very authority that Glenn
Greenwall thinks that he opposes. Little did I know that
he doesn't actually oppose that He's actually a tool of
control opposition on behalf of those powers. So is Tarika

(58:03):
the Sheet. So are so many of these people who
have now taken the genuine rest almost at West, the
genuine rest that black women wanted and needed and black men.
A lot of folks were really really fractured after Kamala
Harris lost and so they needed to take a beat
to get their wits about them. But now they've transformed

(58:24):
that not all of them. There are some who have
just transformed it into a brand, and now that it's
become a brand, it can become weaponized. And what are
they doing with this rest? Oh, we're resting. We're not
going to participate in anything. Really, Now, that's not all
black women, clearly, there's plenty of black women all over
the country who are on the front lines even still today.

Speaker 8 (58:44):
But what have we seen. We've seen the same type
of people like the Shade Room, the same type of
people like Hollywood Unlocked, the same type of mentality. People
who know how to get a T shirt sold, they
put it on there and anytime they see an opportunity
to tweak that message. Oh, I'm not standing up for
them because I'm resting.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
It's the same thing they have done to every revolutionary
thought in person throughout history. They co opt it, they
transform it, and then they roll it out in the
service of white supremacy. And so, yes, now the message
is wrong. It wasn't wrong after the election, It wasn't
wrong for however long you if there's a black person
out there who still needs rest, genuinely, matter of fact,

(59:24):
my wife is resting right now, and I don't do
nothing I'm cooking lunch. I gotta get off here in
a minute. I gotta go cook lunch for these kids.
I'm doing the dishes. Well, I'm making them wash some dishes,
and I'm washing the clothes. She needs rest. If you
need rest, by God, you better get it. But collectively,
we better still be ready for boots on the ground action,

(59:48):
whether it's outdoors or indoors. It's the last thing. Let
me ask you this. All those people who are taking
the time to say I'm not gonna support immigrants, I'm
getting rest, ain't Nobody asked you to go out to
LA and do nothing. Sometimes all we asked, all they
asking you to do is to either tweet and support

(01:00:09):
or just be quiet. You're doing more work tweeting out
I'm getting rest. You ain't actually resting your branding, and
you're performing, and you are dividing this global solidarity that
we need to have in this moment, just like Grillayne
Greenwald and his group of people did back in twenty twenty.

(01:00:30):
I rest my case.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
That's absolutely it been. But you said a very very
very huge point that I think and people are missing.
Nobody asked you. You got online, and you could have
been quiet. You could have sat there and ate chicken.
You could have sat there and ate yo burrito. You
could have sat there and ate your gill. You could
have sat there and shut up. But there you were.

(01:00:51):
You had to get online and say And the first
time I saw it, I said, hmm. I didn't say
anything about it. I saw I hope that black people
are resting in LA today, And that was befo. I
was aware of what was happening in LA in this
full capacity, right, And then when I saw that, hey,
these are immigrants that are fighting, and it's a very
small group of people. And it's not immigrants's immigrants and allies, right,

(01:01:12):
it's products of immigrants, it's all of that. It's a
lot of people out there, but it ain't enough to
be for them to say that some kind of war
going on. It started with one man with the flag.
That turned into other people wanted to come standing out there.
That turned into other protests around the nay shin And
here goes your beat A bead head behind ball headed
neck who pick neck people online saying I hope that

(01:01:40):
black folks are resting. It's three o'clock in the morning.
Clearly you're not you're not, You're not. What are we doing?
But you got online to use these fingers because you
couldn't sleep with the roaches and your home, You couldn't
sleep with the evil spirits hanging over your bed. So
what you did because your man ain't text you back,
your woman is out there in the streets and a

(01:02:00):
good time on vacation. Because you were upset, you got
online to so discored. The people are losing like Jmal Green,
you see, they become ops and they get online to
hate on certain groups of people and certain things to
validate themselves and their sadness and their hates for people
in this moment, and they just get online to sow

(01:02:23):
that hate. And here you are that turned from your
little raggedy post because you hate yourself so much, your
little raggedy post, knowing that you would never get up anyways.
You was not one of the people that went to
go vote. You were the person that held your vote,
knowing you didn't give a damn about the Palestinians. But
you sat down and you didn't vote for that lady
because you and your household perform and shuck and jive
and misogyny, right, So you didn't go vote for that, lady.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
But now you saying that you want to rest. Here's
the thing about that too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
You would have never went to a protest if it
was down the street from your house. That part shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
So all you doing, all your work in tails is tweeting,
and then there you go doing work. To say you
ain't doing work losing rest. To say that you're getting rest,
that's virtual signaling of the highest order. That's performance. Let's
let's lay that to bed now, genuinely, if you because listen,
how how many years did I take off from this game?
Rebecca to this commentable?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
It was only a year, a year, two years.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
It wasn't two years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You went crazy for one and then and took off
for another. I did too, We all went through we
lost it for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
So you gotta get rest so that you can get healthy.
You can't go out there and fight wounded. Nobody needs Oh,
lord's gonna say, wounded warriors, My goodness, that's not that's
a that's actually a wonderful organization. You should support them,
But nobody needs wounded people out there trying to fight
wounded unless it's just a total all out war. And
we ain't got no choice. You if you need rest,

(01:03:50):
get rest, but don't let that rest become performative and
divisive and so discord amongst the brethren and the sister
and and the other end.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Yeah, and I actually wanted to cover one more story, Ben,
and we're out of here. Keep you on time to
go get with your children and make.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Sure on the second over their own Pascal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Yeah, I got you, I promise with out here in
ten minutes. I actually wanted to cover the I don't
have all the full details on it, but the shootings
that happened, I want to say in min minesoda. Yeah,
with the the two leaders of senators, I believe that, well,
the senator that was shot, and there were two state

(01:04:32):
leaders that were shot, but one of her husband.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
And the end they died with the man who was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah, as an officer, had the outfits and everything and
posed the officer. But that's because he worked as something.
But I don't have the full story, but I wanted
to quickly touch on it because I didn't want to
miss it at all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yeah. No, and what's really bad about this moment? And
I hate to skip past the lead, what's really really
even making this worse? Is that MAGA is spending a
lot of energy making this guy seem as though he
was a Democrat when he was a Donald Trump supporting
Republican who went on a shooting spree. His name is

(01:05:18):
Vance Bolter, and he went on a shooting spree. Not
a shooting spree, but an assassination.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
That was this man was a terrorist. This is the
definition of what he did in Louis to me when
I went on, he is a dem assassin. I know
people were trying to confuse saying that is he a
Democrat assassin? Absolutely, he's actually an assassin that is assassinating Democrats.
That that was his whole thing. He had more people
to go and visit, I think some major moneys after

(01:05:47):
the governor, Yes, Tim Walls, a couple of other people.
He had a list in his in his manifesto that
he left behind. And when the cops got there, let's
take a listen. We're not a less and if there
is audio, I would love to hear it. But when
the cops got there, this was the latest news that
I seen. When the cops did get to the scene,

(01:06:07):
they seen him actively shooting the husband at the time
and left, so they had they couldn't stop them. Then
they ran to go save the husband, but there was
another couple that was also shot. So he was able
to successfully shoot four people, killing two of them. From
what I know right now, the other two I believe
we're in critical condition. That worked in the office or

(01:06:28):
had some kind of state leadership for both of the
connections and their spouses.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
So that was the thing. And this person, you said,
the vance volter.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Worked for the government in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Yeah, he was one of an advisory council. But this
is where this is where Republicans are doing their most
insidious double speak propaganda. This advisory council that was appointed
by Governor Walls was inherited, right, and it was a
bipartisan council, right, it was Democrats and Republicans. He had

(01:07:03):
been previously appointed by the previous governor. And so when
that appointment came up again, what do most governors do.
They just reapproved the same council over again. But because
of that, Republicans have said, oh no, this guy worked
for Tim Walls. This is the level of misinformation disinformation
because it's very intentional. Wow, don't want to have a

(01:07:24):
news cycle where it's very clear that a Donald Trump
supporting maggot went and assassinated to Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
You see what I'm saying, Ben, That's such a great
point that you put there. They wanted to go in
the beginning of the whole conversation. They wanted to spend
it immediately, even in how they're phrasing it like dim assassin.
They want people to be confused and they're worried. And
you know about who and what exactly this person was,
and the fact that the police seen him. And this

(01:07:55):
is what I want people to understand, being black and
being white, being a white person and murdering a state leader.
The state leader looks you in, the police officer look
you in your eyes as you shoot the state leader
in their husband, walk to your vehicle, and you get
to escape.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
And they found you two days later.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Near by your home, near your home, meaning that you
were probably there right, You were probably in the area.
You probably slept that night, all the things, And they
finally got you and they said that you came out
and they didn't have to, you know, throw you on
the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
You you complied all the things.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
But that would have never been a black man's story
on sight, wouldn't have been able to leave. As soon
as he shot went through the house, he would have
been shot on right there. Why didn't they shoot? Why
they allow him to go do other work, or why
wouldn't they find out that he was still dangerous?

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Armed and dangerous? This does be Is he a preacher?

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
He was trying to do something. He reminds me of
the African Angels. African Angels, paul A White.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
I think we watched this then, actually, like did we not?
Did you not play this in your evangelical stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
No? No, this is my first time. It's it's a
little but this is this is the assassin, and this
is the guy that they want you to think was
a Democrat. Not that the democrat, but I think democrats
before they get on stage at least try to have
a little bit more annoyting than that. But I digress. Uh,
but you could just listen to him and listen to
what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
I just just excited about Jesus right right now, man.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
And when I get excited, I want to dance chavelle,
don't see and what Jesus did for me, the truth
my life.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
He excited about God.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Want to worship him because he's coming again. You don't call,
and he's got plans, he.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Purposes for each one of you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
And for me. Okay, yeah, cut it. So the fifty
seven year old former security contractor and evangelical Christian, he
once ran a security firm firm, and he this is
what he was trying to do. He was trying to
preach overseas. A lot of people do that. A lot
of people do that overseas and come here and preach
and are successful. And a lot of white people, of course,

(01:10:31):
evangelized and abuse the communities afar, you know, and they
that's how they make a coin. We know that, especially
within the church community. A lot of people will go
online and they will pray on those communities. And none
of his shouting gave me that there was no oil.

(01:10:51):
There was not no oil on that man. It was
not crisco, It wasn't canola.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
It was it was not It was so who it
was so conjured. It was so I'm trying. He was
working so hard. And the black folks who who who?
You know, you got some white folks who really do
know the anointing, right, you got some of the white folks,
but the black folks audience who are people who are

(01:11:17):
birthed out of the anointing. They're like, the nigga need
to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
This man is nothing there, not a liquor oil. He
came there for a corner. And then people said, we
ain't got it for you, because the audience was sitting
there like, ain't nothing on this man, ain't no anointing,
he ain't got no oil.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
But here's a part that's really, really, really dangerous and replicated. Right,
these people, these white Christian nationalist devils, they read the
Bible in a way that gives them license to kill,
to go and crusades, go and commit the inquisition. Right,

(01:11:59):
these are the people who use it and say, oh, well,
the Amalekites were genocided, so let's go ahead and genocide Gaza. Right.
These are the same you know, white evangelicals who support
Israel's genocide of Gaza because they just you know, for
all the reasons. I don't have to go into the
end time prophecy part of it. But they don't really

(01:12:19):
even like Jewish people. But they are the type who
get on stage and they try to feign as though
they got the Holy Spirit when they're operating in the
spirit of colonialism and cruelty, and we seen what happens.
This man probably prayed. He probably prayed before he went
to kill those two Democratic leaders. And he probably thinks

(01:12:41):
he's done it in the name of Jesus. And it
got news for you, brother, You're doing it in the
name of white supremacy, in the name of Donald Trump.
That's who you serve, not Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Absolutely, and he has a history of deep conservative views.
We know that voting for Donald Trump, like you just said,
held a strong anti abortion and anti LGBTQ beliefs, and
reportedly this erupted or distributed sermons against abortion. We know that.
I don't think that's reportedly. I think you can really
find that online. The authorities found a notebook with the
manifestos in his in his vehicle, like I was saying earlier, Now,

(01:13:12):
he had seventy potential targets. Seventy potential targets, okay. And
the ones that were he was targeting, they were potentially
pro choice, well not potentially, they were pro choice, pro LGBTQA,
and of course left wing. Now, the ones that were
he really wanted to get where you stated is the

(01:13:32):
governor Tim Walls, and he wanted to get Representative elan
Omar the victims. I wanted to get their names clear
because I still wanted people to know that this is
who he was going after he got this level of people.
Of course locally he went the victims are former Minnesota
and then we had to put former right because now
that the left a seat empty. So former Minnesota House

(01:13:56):
Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, they were fatally
shot in their Brooklyn Park home right in Minnesota. State
Senator John Hoffman and his wife. Will be clear, he
didn't just shoot Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
He also shot others.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Melissa ended up passing away with her husband Mark uh
and they were fatally shot in their home. But State
Senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette were also shot
at their residence, but they survived and there was expected
to recover critical condition now that the operation was statewide.
A man hunt for a man who got into his

(01:14:37):
car and or whatever he did, cops looked at him
after he'd shot into the home and continued on and
let that be a forty three hour manhunt where somebody
was at like literally harmful in the community. Free right
and at large. But that's that's the thing I pointed

(01:15:04):
out because Melissa is no longer and I'm sorry to
her and her family, that seat now is available, which
is giving I think more leniency or leaning more towards
the right, and they're looking to fill that position. But
that's how much. That's why I like, is he doing
somebody's dirty work as well? Like is this for the Senate?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
I think about these things because everybody, even if they're
not doing it directly from the orders of all these
manifestos come.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
From them reading things like Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
All these things come from them like going down and
watching things that they believe are anti Christian, even though
everything that Donald Trump's does doesn't even line up with
the things that this man is preaching about or whatever.
But they will look at this and think that they
are doing the Lord's work. Nobody acts them to do this,
but this cult that they're in, they are out here

(01:15:56):
doing the Lord's work, and here it is that. That's
what I saw to I saw that they exchanged gunfire
with him, according to the police reports, and then he
ran off. They told his vehicle, but he still ran
off on foot and got away and got away. He
faced the two counts of second degree murder and two

(01:16:17):
counts of attended second degree murder. The federal charges are
also in discussion. Officials like Senator Klobachar Clobear and Governor
Waltz have labeled the shootings as of course politically motivated.
We know that, but of course the right doesn't want
to say they want to change up the verbiage, noting
clear ideological motivations related to abortion and political affiliation.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
The thing is, he pretended to be a cop, impersonating
a cop. Ain't that there's like a bigger legal thing.
I think they want to go federal with that. But
that's you impersonated law enforcement. That's how he got into
the homes. That's how he got into the homes. And
here we are, like, this is a terrorist attack. I

(01:17:05):
know people don't like to say things are what they are.
You know, they still call them January sixth an insurrection.
When that is a domestic terrorist attack, then you got
to be able to use the words where they where
they belong, right, y'all love due process and bringing up
those type of things. And this is a terrorist attack
and it should be treated as such. But just because
it's one of your white male counterparts that die for MAGA,

(01:17:30):
they're gonna go real soft on him. Then.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yeah. In the common section, like somebody said like this,
Braxton said that we're in a civil war. We're at war.
Governing yourselves accordingly, and jam tune Nika said, civil war
isn't what it used to look like. And this is

(01:17:55):
what I was doing. The research that I was doing,
it was pertaining to black people and the threat, the
targeted attacks that we can expect towards black people. I
simply didn't do the I didn't I didn't tune the
question to ask what kind of threat should we expect
on Democrats? Because that's the first, that's the that's the immediate,

(01:18:19):
that's the hottest thing right now is the language that
they're using the work of violence, political specific violence towards
the Democratic Party. But the fact of the matter is
is across every level, MAGA magots have worked themselves up
into a violent frenzy against Democrats. So it doesn't matter

(01:18:39):
what color you are. Right against women, right against the
lgbt qu I, a community very specifically against black people,
and so category have the category of the category against
immigrants right again, can't not say that they're coming after

(01:19:00):
all of us through the law, through breaking the law,
through violence, And to me that signals, Rebecca, that's all
the more reason that every single one of us who
is being targeted by this evil we better not go
to sleep and rest while everyone else is fighting the

(01:19:22):
battle that they are already targeting us in. How foolish
would it be for us to sleep while white supremacy
is currently going after immigrants, while white supremacy the form
of MAGA, because that's what it purely is, It's purely
white supremacy. Let me flip it. I want to flip
this thing off of black folks for on a second
and say to the Democratic Party if you do not

(01:19:45):
understand now that what you're fighting up against is not
just MAGA and Republicans, but it is the white supremacy
underneath it, the kind of white supremacy that has been
violent throughout world history and has shown you time and
again how many people they will kill to keep power.
And I don't know what to tell you, Democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
They're not Yeah, I don't think we should keep even
talking today, by all head and behind because at this point,
like I said, we gotta just it's not beat them,
join them. It ain't none of that over here. When
it comes to that, we just got to keep doing
what we're doing. And if you don't want to be
a part of this, get out my way. Come on,
get out of my way. I am tired of trying
to hold your hand when I say this. I am

(01:20:30):
tired of saying I don't know who needs to hear this,
but I am not move. Somebody behind you need this message.
Move because somebody so you're blocking the way for someone
else to get through in their wheelchair.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Move, get out the way.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Get out the way. As they sat out here in Atlanta,
Ludacris once said that, and you know they just just
just go because I'm so tired of it. This is
a time right now, y'all want to stick on Diaspora Awards,
I'm just gonna check you and keep it moving forward.
I don't want to be We do not have to
be challenged anymore or keep ourselves. That's what keeps ourselves

(01:21:07):
in the wars of fighting each other while MAGA keeps
making plans as they fight together. But they like tumbleweed,
they gonna move in the same direction. They gonna keep
rolling rolling us. We just sitting there arguing oil and water,
knowing dang like, just it's you, it's you at you.
And then and the one time we'll be on the
same accord. That lasts about two seconds because somebody gonna

(01:21:29):
drop something and say, oh, that's a distraction, and it
don't really be a distraction, and just be dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
It's just dumb.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
It really just be dumb. And then everybody pours into
that dumb moment, not remembering that over here they are
taking away funding from the school to give it to
their political pick Maga pick to her salary. You're forgetting
that over here, right over here, that big beautiful bill.

(01:21:58):
It doesn't include you below of it. Why are you
not getting that? You're forgetting that over here. You thought
that you were going to be oh their massage and
Nur was going to work for you under this white administration.
Mister immigrant, but you want to go vote for Donald
Trump and you can hardly barely speak English. She wouldn't
look your way. You wasn't the immigrant. It was the

(01:22:21):
africaners that came here the other day on the red carpet.
But it wasn't you. That's why your.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Sweating, sloppy, greasy, ain't never missed the meal in their life.
Africanas talking about they was full, they was feeling good,
and they went on on the stage of burping up
new food. They just I ain't so man anyway, Rebecca,
let's reach but I have more do have to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Cover on later, So just just be on the lookout
for that video dropping on later today. I go ahead, Ben,
let's get to this Tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Thank you for the super chat. There are so many
instances of mag of violence this weekend. Shootings, assassinations, and
people driving into protesters. Drove drive into a crowd of
pro troveing to the crowd of protesters near me in Virginia,
be safe and don't forget the governor of down there
in Florida gave them permission, saying run them over right.

(01:23:13):
They think we ain't paying attention, we need to pay
attention some flower gardens. This is to your channel, Rebecca, saying,
just supporting Rebecca because I am a Rebecca stand.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
And I'm a sunflowers fan. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Same thing from Lizzie Lizzie Bennett Center at the beginning
of the show, sending my love and support. I receive it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Lizzy Tiger sent some love over there to Rebecca's channel. Rebecca,
nothing pops up for you on Blue Sky because you
have to build your own algorithm. Facebook X and Threads
make an algorithm for you. I had the same problem
until starting building my own algorithm and interacting with it.
I didn't know that all that I know about our
hungar hithms, I didn't know that this was on Rebecca's channel. Rebecca,

(01:23:54):
you clared out. We rubbed you. Rebecca, keep using your
beautiful voice to keep everyone animated or aroused.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
As Bernie say, I don't Omega. Omega gave it up today.
Thank you, Omega, Thank you everybody. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Omega winning and sent a supersticker to my channel. I
appreciate that supersticker, not as much as Jose sent over it.
But I'm not Rebecca, so you know, I get that.
I understand. Rebecca said if we reach one hundred K
and donations, she'll drop posters. I might be quoting her wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
We do need one hundred K and donations, and if not,
I will I'll be on. I'll be doing what's that thing?
Only fans.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Y'all be give an exclusive content baby.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Omega Star sent a dollar another dollar ninety nine super
chat supersticker plastic roses over there on your channel, saying
thank you for all your good work, all you do, y'all.
Voices are so important. I know it's not much, but
I want to give what I can.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Thank you, plastic roses. That's just enough, just you being
on here and giving. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
And you know what Omega Star sent the next I'm
not going to click on I guess I can click.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
On it because I do this thing with a goal
where I'm like ten super chats and Omega Stars love
that they feed, looking like ain't nobody giving? And we'll
give for the ten and I and I really appreciate that.
Thank you, Omegastar.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Sheila Bletson sent this to the wrong channel, but we
thank you anyway, Rebecca. At least an ice cream cone.
Ice cream cone, I hope, uh no, my kids are
really gonna enjoy the ice cream cone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Thank you, Sheila for the kids.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Thank you, she because you're blessing then you blessing me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
There it is there, it is Tiger sent five. We're
witnessing the movement of modern day brown shirts in real time.
We need to make sure everyone who isn't plugged in
connects the dots immediately. That's a fact. Oh wait a minute,
I need somebody like Candice Owen's Marx's body double in
my chat. But that's so rude to me. I want

(01:25:48):
I sat right over William because I William brother, thank
you so much for sending this to my channel. I'm
gonna appreciate those two dollars, and I'm matter of fact,
I'm gonna taking them two dollars. I'm gonna get me
a two for one slushy for you know, for me,
because i can't do all the sugar, but I'm gonna
get it for my kids right there. Thank you, Thank you,

(01:26:09):
William Man. It really means a lot. Can this coming through?
Can das over there on Rebecca's channel, i'n been right
there that paid light half lights.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
That'll pay the light because over here in this house
the longly time like to stay honest when I'm on
the channel. Once that I got God gave a snatcher
light through the window, and I've been what I've been using.
I thank you can this, I thank you everybody who
is given. Thank you can this for your huge nation.
That's actually gonna pay the lights and it's gonna keep
stream Yard open. Oh not low said, I heard if
you drop one hundred, Ben will drop posters. Oh yeah,

(01:26:40):
oh yeah, Ben Southern.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
No listen, we are gonna make it exclusive.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Baby only fans will be popping to an exclusive content
and we will know what to do with somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
I'll be like that episode of Different World when with
the Gilbert photoshopped somebody elbody on daw Wayne's face. That's
that's what it's gonna be for me today. I love that,
all right, y'all all right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
I want to also say, somebody just sent in a
cash apt. I appreciate that the whole name. Oh yeah,
just say Braxton, so Braxton showing love. I really appreciate you.
Thank you for watching. I appreciate you, and I wanted
to make sure I Emberly. I don't know if I
got you because we know we didn't do this last weekend,
but Emberly, I appreciate you as well. Thank you, Denise

(01:27:25):
and Shelby. I love you guys. Mean it. Ben.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I need to thank two people who sent me some
for my birthday. They came through and they came through
hard for your boy. I just got to see there
it is there, it is pastor. I had to check
an email. There it is from I got from what
the name is? Wait a minute, I don't see the
name name is. I have to find it. I have

(01:27:52):
to find it later. I can't find it. Let me
put in the amount because they sent a nice amount. Carrie,
Carrie s thank you so much for that birthday. Uh
and uh Braxton, thank you for that birthday gift as
well as it was one other person. Where is the

(01:28:12):
other individual? Emberly?

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Mberly? See yeah, Emberly, We shout out the same folks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Thank y'all, thank y'all for the love for my birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
No, thank you guys. Oh wait a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Minute, Candice, Oh hey, you see.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
And I ain't even have to do nothing strange for
the change.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Nothing had to show a little nothing when said thank you, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
You so much, they still coming in. Wait a minute, Katrina,
thank you so much for that supersticker. We really appreciate that.
And then mm, princess, listen watch that. Look, I know
how to use the dollar for nine cents. I can
tell you exactly what I can get the grocery store
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Even that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
I'll go to the discount counter with the can that
got a little dent in it and get I'm gonna
have a whole meal off that dollar forty nine. Y'all
ask me about how I make some liver bean burgers.
You can't even taste the liver. It tastes so good
black bean liver burgers. Find out about it, all right, Becca, Listen,
I got fourteen minutes to get these kids fed and
then to get over there to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Please give the kids fed. But thank you, I had
a really great time. Listen. One thing we always gonna
do is catch up. If we miss you on a Saturday,
just know that the during the week we got you.
But as always, I want you guys to like, share
and subscribe. Let the algorithm know that we are here,
and thank you so much for your support. You already
know where you guys can support us on cash app,
backs voice and for Ben nowhere right now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
But but what you do is though I want you
all to just send me your messages what you could do.
Don't even worry about sending me a cash app, because
soon I'm gonna have the hay past the Ben cash app.
But right now it's Haypastor been at gmail dot com.
If you need technical support AI, that's me. If you
need moral support, that's me. If you need political support,
that's me. If you need whatever, if you just need

(01:29:59):
some I had to listen to what you were going
through and want somebody who can just kind of sound
off for you. Know, I got you, So send me
a message and I want to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
I love you, guys, mean it, and I'll see you
next week. And I promise you I didn't skip Saturday
because I went and got brain love.

Speaker 8 (01:30:13):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Work that we're doing here is not going to stop
when it comes to these type of discussions. It's going
to be for us and by us here on this
platform when the media is telling us to look the
other way. Your support is what helps us move forward.
Join pictureon dot com, forward, slash like it or not,
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Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
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