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Kaysey Yoder went missing on January, 14 2024. Over a year of investigation by family, friends, and authorities has yielded no answers. The community and those closest to her including her four children still don’t know where she is.
Kaysey Yoder was 34 years old, 5’9″ and weighs around 110 pounds when she went missing on January 14, 2024. She has platinum blond hair and hazel eyes. She was last seen wearing jeans, a brown jacket and knee-high combat-style boots, carrying a gray, green, and blue athletic backpack.If you have any information about the disappearance of Kaysey Yoder, please call Detective Stupka at (970) 400-2832 or you can call the tip line at (970) 304-6464 or email your tip to crimetips@weld.gov.
Bring Kaysey Yoder home Facebook
Change.org petition for Kaysey's phone records
If you are in need of mental health resources visit 988lifeline.org.
If you or someone you know is struggling or in need of immediate help call or text 988.
Sources
https://www.weldsheriff.com/Public-Interest/2024-News/Update-into-the-investigation-of-missing-person-Kaysey-Yoder
https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/kaysey-yoder/amp/
https://www.greeleytribune.com/2025/02/11/more-than-a-year-after-her-disappearance-family-of-missing-eaton-woman-still-searching-for-answers/
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/missing-colorado-moms-family-targeted-scammers/
https://www.greeleytribune.com/2024/01/26/weld-deputies-seek-publics-help-locating-missing-eaton-woman/
Links for Kaysey
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61557529659049
https://www.change.org/p/warrant-for-missing-woman-kaysey-yoder-s-phone-records
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Kaysey Yoder went missing on January, 14 2024. Over a year of investigation by family, friends, and authorities has yielded no answers. The community and those closest to her including her four children still don’t know where she is.
Kaysey Yoder was 34 years old, 5’9″ and weighs around 110 pounds when she went missing on January 14, 2024. She has platinum blond hair and hazel eyes. She was last seen wearing jeans, a brown jacket and knee-high combat-style boots, carrying a gray, green, and blue athletic backpack.If you have any information about the disappearance of Kaysey Yoder, please call Detective Stupka at (970) 400-2832 or you can call the tip line at (970) 304-6464 or email your tip to crimetips@weld.gov.
Bring Kaysey Yoder home Facebook
Change.org petition for Kaysey's phone records
If you are in need of mental health resources visit 988lifeline.org.
If you or someone you know is struggling or in need of immediate help call or text 988.
Sources
https://www.weldsheriff.com/Public-Interest/2024-News/Update-into-the-investigation-of-missing-person-Kaysey-Yoder
https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/kaysey-yoder/amp/
https://www.greeleytribune.com/2025/02/11/more-than-a-year-after-her-disappearance-family-of-missing-eaton-woman-still-searching-for-answers/
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/colorado/news/missing-colorado-moms-family-targeted-scammers/
https://www.greeleytribune.com/2024/01/26/weld-deputies-seek-publics-help-locating-missing-eaton-woman/
Links for Kaysey
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61557529659049
https://www.change.org/p/warrant-for-missing-woman-kaysey-yoder-s-phone-records
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/like-mother-like-murder--6210055/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Casey Yoder went missing on January fourteenth, twenty twenty four.
Over a year of investigation by family, friends, and authorities
has yielded no answers. The community and those closest to her,
including her four children, still don't know exactly what happened
on that faded afternoon.
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and this is definitely related to today's case, but this episode,
(03:26):
we're actually recording this and this episode will come out
in May, and in May we recognize Mental health Awareness months,
and we have done this, I think every year that
we've had this podcast, we've done something to kind of
commemorate mental health awareness. As mom's and as you know,
(03:49):
we know how important mental health is, and especially maternal
mental health. We've talked about before how important it is
that you're taking care of your health because other little
lives depend on you and you it's really hard to
be there for anyone else if you're not also taking
care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
One thing I want to make sure to bring to
everyone's attention is that you know it is May, and
you know in efforts to promote mental well being and
educate on mental health and reduce any stigma surrounding mental
health issues. We will discuss it today in the episode,
(04:32):
because mental health does play a role in today's case,
and it is definitely our hope here on Like Motherlike
Murder that when we're covering cases like this, not only
are we helping to kind of, you know, get attention
for these cases and spread information about the case itself,
(04:53):
but also to especially in the in today's episode, I'm
really hoping that we can encourage some empathy and some
understanding for those who are affected by various mental health conditions.
And so I'm going to repeat this at least one
other time in the episode. But take this as your sign. Everybody,
(05:17):
it's May, It's Mental Health Awareness month. If you are
in need of mental health resources, there are resources out
there for you. The one that we will put in
our show notes and that we're going to talk about
right now is nine eight eight Lifeline. So there are
resources if you just go to nine eight eight lifeline
(05:37):
dot org. Or if you're currently struggling or someone you
know is currently struggling and your need of that you're
in need of that immediate help, you can call our
text nine eight eight and take this as your sign.
Like I said, to reach out get the help you need.
There's no better time than now.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I love that you're bringing this. I love that
you touched on all of that because it is truly
so important and I yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel so. This is just such a big, big.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Topic and conversation and importance that so many people, so
many people struggle with mental health problems and or they
know someone who is struggling, you know, and that affects
them as well. It's one of the things I think
that's not talked about as much, you know, because you're
(06:35):
it's always trying to get the help for the person
who needs it, but so many people are around and
try to support.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
These people who go through stuff too, So it is
really just.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Something that needs as much kind of like focus and
help and eyes and support and resources and all of that.
So I'm really glad that you're covering something that is
going to touch on that today.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, for sure, I felt I mean may snuck up
on us, for sure, for sure. But I was going
through some of our older episodes and in the past
we've covered, like we re released them in May, just
to really again just provide that education, provide that little
(07:20):
bit of knowledge when it comes to mental health and
so I wanted to do the same thing today. I
wanted to bring a case that is definitely mental health related,
and uh, we are we are going to get into it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sounds good, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Despite over a year of investigation by local authorities, with
consultation from the Colorado Bureau of Investigations and the FBI,
rallying by friends, family, and the community, we still do
not know what happened the cold afternoon of January fourteenth,
twenty twenty four, when then thirty four year old Casey
(08:18):
Yoder allegedly walked away from her home just east of Eton, Colorado. Oh,
I just got chills. Anna Green is one of Casey's
closest friends. They grew up facing challenges like motherhood together.
Anna described Casey as enthusiastic with infectious energy. This is
(08:45):
a sentiment that Casey's mom, Tammy Ruth echoed. Tammy explained
how Casey had an infectious smile end quote. She'd walk
into a room and light up the whole thing end quote.
Tammy says that Casey has been that way since childhood.
That they would go to grocery stores and she'd compliment
(09:07):
people one by one she was just a fun, extroverted person.
And Anna described Casey as a social butterfly.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Casey so amazing, Like she just everything that you're saying, she's.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Just yeah, And if you look at pictures, there's a
lot of pictures of her, and she just you can tell,
like you get the vibe and that energy from her,
like right, just even just from the picture, you can.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Tell, Yeah, we'd want to be her friend for.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Sure, and after what I'm going to tell you, you want
to just love her and be her friend even more so.
Casey lived in Colorado with Evan Tipton. Some reports I
read said that he was her husband, others said long
term boyfriend. So I don't know if maybe it was
(09:58):
one of those do they call those after you've been
married or living with someone for like seven years? You
know what I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now, dreaming right now they're saying, like everyone is like
common law, common law, got it? So she had been
been with Evan for a long time. And Casey is
also a mom to four boys. Wow do you imagine
(10:28):
four points? No, my grandma, my dad is one of
four and my grandma must have been a saint because
I don't even know how she did that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I have three step sons.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I mean that is true, and a daughter. That's that
you are. But I know you're a saint, So that's fine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well so she she she truly is.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I'm going to tell you some stuff and you're like, oh, yeah,
for one hundred percent, she's a saint.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So Casey was devoted hard mother, and this was especially
evident in how she cared for her eldest son, who
was born with a severe birth defect. Unfortunately, because of
this birth defect, he couldn't walk, he couldn't talk. He
did require a wheelchair. That, of course, did not stop
(11:21):
Casey from making the most of life. Casey had taken
up roller skating when she was growing up, and she
continued this activity with her children. So Casey would skate
with her boys and she would push her eldest in
his wheelchair while skating.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I love that. That's so beautiful. Oh Heather's already all
up in the fields.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No, it is.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That is so sweet and just like all such a
good way inclusive, you know what I mean, Like it's
just such a good way to like bring everyone together
because It's not like her and her one son was
doing it was like they were all doing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It the family. When Casey disappeared, she was in the
process of getting her Certified Nursing Assistant license or her
CNA license so that she could become his formal caregiver. Okay,
and she only had one more test to take. This
devotion to her family is one of the reasons that
(12:18):
all of her friends, all of her family were very
confused by her disappearance last January. And now, unfortunately, with
Casey gone and unable to provide that care for her
eldest at home, he is now in a long term
care facility by himself.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Man, that's so heartbreaking. It really How old was How
old was the oldest son?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
He's older. I don't have the exact ages because I think,
you know, they're trying.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
To Yeah, they want to keep it. He is old.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Was she at this thirty four?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Thirty four, So that age range can be kind of
yea everywhere at that point.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So let's talk about the day leading up to her disappearance.
I do want to provide a trigger warning here as
we will be discussing thoughts of suicide, so please take
care of yourselves and if you need to just skip
forward about thirty seconds. On January thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
Casey had what you could consider a mental health emergency.
(13:26):
She was on the phone with her best friend Anna,
and she was saying things that really made Anna worry,
things like she was gonna go lay down in the
snow and let herself freeze to death. This could be
connected to reports that Casey had stopped taking her medications
for bipolar disorder. And we see this happen all too often.
(13:48):
An individual with a mental health condition they're taking medications
for and the medications are working, and they start feeling really,
really good, so they think, hey, I'm better, I can
stop taking them. But just the way that you have
to finish your prescription, like the way that when you
(14:08):
have strep throat or an ear infection or something like that,
and the doctor says take this for fourteen days, even
if you feel better after three, you have to continue
to take it. It's the same thing with prescriptions that
are given for mental health issues. You have to continue
(14:28):
taking your medications. This is something that I'm very familiar with.
You can't just stop as good as you're feeling about
how your life is going. And again I think that
this has a little bit to do with the stigma
that surrounds mental health and taking a prescription for mental
(14:49):
health issues. What you have to kind of think about
is some people have to take blood pressure medication, some
people have to take like cholesterol medication. Taking a medication
for a mental health issue is no different from that.
Your body just needs whatever it is to work right,
and the same goes for whether it's your heart, your blood,
(15:14):
or your head. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I highly recommend, though, while you're taking medication for
everyone to also be implementing different things and for your
lives to you know, whether it's going outside or eating
better or reading or changing different things. Because medication, some
(15:39):
medication is long term. It's always going to be there.
It's something that you need sometimes you do. You eventually
don't need that anymore, for whatever it may be, and
so you have to you have to have made these
things or learned learn the things that are going to
help you when you're no longer taking the medication as well.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's a good point. And here's and we're going to
go a little off topic a kind of but not really,
because this is about mental health. The way that the
best way that I've had it described to me. The
medication isn't about making you feel one hundred percent better.
The medication is getting your body to the point where
(16:26):
it can function enough that you can take those steps
to make you feel better. Yea, So the medication is
about like let's say you have depression. The medication is
about doing enough for your you know, your serotonin levels
that you can now get up out of bed and
go for a walk or do that meditation that makes
(16:49):
you feel the rest of your way better. It's about
evening you out so that you can continue to do,
like what Rachel said, those things that are we know
are good for our mental health. Take walks outside, get
some sunshine, meditate, journal, do whatever it is. But sometimes
your body is just so and your your brain is
(17:10):
just so broken or put down or just in a
place that it just can't even get to the point
to allow you to do those things. But what medication
does is it gives you that extra boosty, right, Yeah,
so you can start working on yourself. It's not Yeah,
it's definitely not a cure all like it will. You're
(17:31):
only gonna get out what you put in, right, so
that's a really good point. We've been there, Yeah, I've
been there. So back to Casey these statements, she was
talking to her best friend Anna. Anna was of course worried.
She checked in with Casey the next day and she said,
Casey seemed better. It might have just been a low point,
(17:54):
you know, a thought that was just kind of in
and out.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Casey's mom, Tammy, had also talked to Casey the next day,
on the fourteenth, just an hour before her disappearance, and
Tammy said Casey seemed fine. She said, quote, she was
in good spirits end quote. So when the call dropped,
(18:21):
Tammy didn't think much of it. She just thought, okay,
she'll just call me back, okay, right, okay. So that afternoon,
around four pm on January fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Casey
left her home on Appy Road near Eaton, Colorado. Evan,
(18:43):
the long term boyfriend's slash husband, said that she did
take keys for both vehicles, but she set out on
foot and she had told Evan that she was going
to spend the night with her best friend Anna. Casey
took a change of clothes, small backpack and she was off.
But the next morning, Anna got a call from Tammy,
(19:06):
Casey's mom. Once they realized that no, Casey was not
at Anna's house, they called to Evan and they were like, hey,
what's up. At this point, everyone is putting together the
pieces and realizing that no one has actually seen or
heard from Casey since yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh man, I'm instantly like, okay, I need to know
more about Evan. I need to know things I know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, don't worry, we'll get there. We'll get there. So
Anna explains that she was really concerned and pretty upset
with Evan. She was like, what the heck? You knew
she had a hard day yesterday, Like you should have
been checking in more. But he was under the impression
that she was off to Anna's house. So she knew
that Casey was in a vulnerable state, and so she
(19:56):
she just was really concerned, and Evan was the one
who ended up reporting her missing on January fifteenth, at
eleven twenty nine, AM. Okay, so let's dig into the investigation.
On July twenty six, twenty twenty four, this is about
six months after her disappearance, the Well Shariff they'd released
(20:18):
a statement and it's just a really good statement because
it recaps the whole investigation. So I'm gonna kind of
summarize it, but first I'm going to start with the
quote they have at the top of their statement. This
update is being issued with the hope that if anyone
knows anything about Casey's disappearance and they have not come forward,
we asked them to do so. Now we also ask
(20:41):
for the public and the members of the media to
understand this is still an active and ongoing investigation and
we intend to preserve its integrity for Casey and her family.
End quote. So in those six months, unfortunately, investigative efforts
have not uncovered where Casey went or where she could be.
(21:04):
But I'm telling you it was not for lack of trying.
We have seen some half ass, zero ass investigations in
the past, especially when there's some kind of mental health
piece of it. Right, But I can say now that
(21:24):
is not what happened here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh good, because we've seen some absolutely amazing, amazing investigations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We just talked about one. Claire's investigation was amazing, and
we've definitely seen some poor, poor fucking investigations. Yeah, So,
in the six months after Casey disappeared, here's everything the
world Sheriff Department did. They spoke to over twenty members
of Casey's family, friends, and uninvolved witnesses. This included conducting
(21:56):
conventional interviews, forensic interviews, and a polygraph which I will
get into. I bet you can guess who they polygraphed.
They followed up on roughly fifty community tips about Casey,
including alleged sightings of her. She was last seen at
a liquor store. This was her last confirmed location and
(22:19):
they conducted an in depth two square mile search using drones,
k nines, and foot searches. Okay, they did bolos be
on the lookouts that were sent to all the surrounding
law enforcements agencies. They spoke directly with seven other law
(22:41):
enforcement agencies asking for help, and because of them reaching out,
these other agencies sent out specialized teams wherever they felt like, Okay,
this is the area we need to check. They did
visual searches along the major roads and interconnected roads from
Weld County area in to Fort Collins now Weld County.
(23:02):
Where she was was technically unincorporated. Eton is the town,
but like where she was was, I guess just outside
of Eton. It's it seems like a very small but
big area, like small population wise, but kind of like
a big geographical area. And if you head west of
(23:23):
the Eaton area, you hit the bigger city of Fort Collins.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Okay, So they turn how she was. It just wasn't
heavy populated, right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Right, But they checked everything in between her area and
Fort Collins, Okay. They also consulted with the Colorado of
Burea Investigations and the FBI, which is we have seen
so many times and talked about so many times, how
like when it's a smaller jurisdiction, maybe they don't have
as many resources and or the background and the expertise
(23:56):
they need to call in reinforcements. They did, They indeed did,
which is great. And they also have continued to work
with the local DA and the Judicial District for search
authority so that they can gather more evidence and narrow
the search down. I'll talk a little bit more about
the warrants that they've been trying to get. In addition
(24:18):
to all of those things that were conducted by the authorities,
the Weld County sheriffs and then everyone that they kind
of tasked with helping them, the family also had a
PI working on the case, and this PI explained that
they checked hospitals, that they checked psychiatric facilities, jails, and
remember I mentioned that polygraph. So the PI confirmed that
(24:42):
it was Evan who was given the polygraph. And Evan
came out and said, yeah, you know, they gave me
the polygraph. I passed it and she was able to
confirm that with the investigative agency.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So yeah, the private investigator was the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Prime investigator confirmed that, Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's stuff that we this. Everything you're saying is exactly
the stuff that you want to hear that early on
and throughout investigations, exactly any sort of missing person's unsolved,
whatever it may be, you want to see all of
the time, all of the efforts, all of the here's something.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Okay, we're going to try this, we're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is new, you know, And that's exactly. Yeah, it's
happening so far.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You always, I always worry when I find cases like
this because like the first thing they say, right is like, okay,
this mother afore went missing, and then you read that
she had had a mental health emergency the day before
she went missing, and there's reports that she maybe had
stopped her medication. So you're like, oh my god, Oh
my god, They're just going to say, oh, well she
just ran am Yeah, but they were all in this.
(25:52):
The Weld County Sheriff's a big shout out to them.
They they did not let that stigma or the possibility
that even if this was voluntary, that that was that
was not going to stop them from investigating, which was.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It makes me think of like certain cases, so like
Kaalana Turner or Dy Playing who you know, have had
things happen, had situations, episodes, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And and then you are just.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Talk about the way that the investigation went because they
blamed it all on a mental health issue. Yeah, no,
I know. And so I was obviously like super scared.
I mean, we've we've talked about things like this before.
It was really encouraging to see this handled. This is
exactly how it should have been handled, and they did.
(26:52):
They did it. So Currently that p I said that
deputies are also working to get access to Casey's phone
wreck So there is currently a change dot org petition
for more access to her phone records the links in
the bio. I will talk about this a little bit more,
but that that is currently where the investigation stands they
(27:16):
are trying to get some more info from her phone.
So on top of the authorities, official investigation and the PI,
Casey's mom, of course, is all in on this. She's
been constantly searching for Casey herself, putting up as many
posters as possible, speaking with anyone and everyone who may
(27:37):
have even the slightest idea of what could have happened
to her daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
No, I have a feeling.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I heard you say that that's where it stands, and
I can't stand for that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, I will go over the little the little bit
of information that we have. So since January twenty twenty four,
there's not much inform that's become available. But here's what
we do know. Casey left her house around four pm
that day. Witnesses later placed her alt liquor between five
(28:12):
and nine pm that night. Now, from what I can
figure out just from Google Maps, this liquor store was
about five miles from her house, so I don't know
if she like walked it or what, but she originally
set out from her house on foot. The bag that
she was carrying with the change of clothes it was
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found at an intersection near her home along with her
son's cell phone. Oh what Yeah, but Casey's cell phone
has not been found. Her bank account was also untouched.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So her phone wasn't found.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But are they I know that you said they're going
to do more searches onto her phone, but are they
even able to see as a of right now whether
or not there's been any more usage on her phone?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So that's the problem, right from what other people can see,
they could they know that there was no calls, no
texts after she went missing, right, But, like I mentioned it,
there's a petition right now on change dot org. The
link will be in the bio to get more access
to her phone records. So this petition, it was created
(29:26):
by Casey's friend Anna, and is addressed to the District
Chief Justice and it's basically requesting approval for a warrant
for law enforcement to access Casey's phone records. So law
enforcements all in they have this warrant, they just need
approval from the judge. The link is in the bio.
I'm urging you all to just go sign it. They're
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so close to their goal and they just need to
know that enough there's enough support to get approval to
look into her phone records.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, definitely go do that. I gotta do that after this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
If this warren is granted, when this warn is granted,
let's put it into existence, let's manifest it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It can hopefully.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Shed some light into the time around her disappearance. Now
currently the weld share share weld Sheriff's apartment. They do
not suspect any criminal activity is involved currently, but the
phone records may be able to confirm whether or not
there's suspicious circumstances involved. Here here's the thing though, Like
(30:39):
I said, they don't have any reason to believe there's
something criminal going on currently. But in that statement they
made in July, they did say that false or misleading
statements are not helpful and only slow the efforts to
find Casey. So this makes me believe that someone out
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there was being an ass and provided false or misleading statements.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, we don't like that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, no, that's not cool, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
What the freakin' heck.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They also go on to say that there have even
been statements saying like someone has made a statement saying
they know some helpful information about where Casey could be.
But then whoever made these statements, they wouldn't then talk
to detectives. So also that I don't like, like, that's suspicious.
I mean, it's possibly criminal even if it has even
(31:33):
if that person had nothing to do with Casey's disappearance.
If you're potentially hindering an official investigation, yeap, that's criminal.
But that's not the only criminal thing I'm gonna talk about.
And this is really going to piss you off.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Let's talk about some definitely criminal, horrible, filthy scum of
the earth people that is related to Casey's disappearance, but
probably not in the way that you think. Okay, So,
to add insult to injury, there are some, like I said,
just absolutely scum people trying to take advantage of Casey's
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family during this already vulnerable, heartbreaking time. Both Casey's mom, Tammy,
and one of her sons were approached by scammers pretending
to be Casey and asking for money.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Gosh, it's such a Laylas Santanello type freaking like, it's.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So shitty, it's so shitty, it's so shitty, it's so shitty.
It is Santanello. That's exactly what it reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
People are so sick.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I know, I know. Tammy would explain that these messages
would say things like you give me the money, I'll
be back tomorrow, claiming to be casey and saying they
have beat me up, they kidnapped me, I don't remember anything.
This one just like it breaks your heart and pisses
you off all at the same time. Here's the and
this is a quote. I want to come to you mother, Mom.
(33:09):
Do you want me to continue to suffer? So Tammy
said that she kept asking whoever was on the other
side of these messages like to call her, like call me,
like I want to call you, you know, I need
to talk to you. And when whoever was on the
other line finally called, someone just said Mom helped me before.
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The rest was kind of like muffled, and that was.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Kind of all that was her voice or like a
girl or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Think it was too muffled for her to really like
get anything out of it. But the messages continued. But
apparently then this person said that they were in Russia,
and Tammy was like no, like Tammy's like I knew
this wasn't my daughter, and so she basically told this
person like you're not my daughter. Shut up, I need,
(33:57):
I need to focus on finding my daughter. To make
it even worse, though, this piece of absolute trash was
not only messaging Tammy's mom but also messaging Okay, I'm sorry,
messaging Casey's mom, Tammy, You're right, yeah, but she was
also messaging one of her Casey's, one of Casey's sons.
(34:20):
And the report I read, I know, I believe this
report said the son. It was the son who I
believe was nine at the time, and it's heartbreaking because
he was responding to this message. And Tammy said, like
he was responding to these messages thinking like it's his mom,
and he was writing things like Mom, I love you,
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come home, I love you, I miss you.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Also, the person that was messaging was pretending to be
her at that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Point, was pretending to be Casey.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Okay, I was like, why bring the kid into it?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But then because they're pretending to be Casey, still disgusting
and all lutely discussing.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So Tammy does the right thing though. She reported the
incident to police, and she actually reported it to this
non profit organization called Justice Takes Flight, which helps families
of missing people, and they made some statements saying like unfortunately,
like this happens to these families who are already missing
(35:22):
a loved one. People try to take advantage of the situation.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Can't they track from the sun's phone or the mom's phone.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, I'm hoping that because Tammy reported it to the police,
like the same way in Layla Santonello's case, they were
able to track it exactly. I'm hoping that, you know,
since she reported it to police, that they will be
able to investigate it because it's like that person needs
to pay that's bull.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you know, it is a very very big problem,
and it's I don't know, the term is not coming
to my brain.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Arrestable offense.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh yeah, it is. It's completely because you're you're you're
committing like fraud, you're trying to get money from people
under a false pretense.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
In Layla's case, Michael got sixteen years because of it.
So everyone who thinks that it's okay to fuck around,
you're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
That's all there is to say about that. Hell yeah, sorry, Rachel,
that's where we stand.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No, it's not it is it is so okay.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
So they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They have the change dot change to search her phone
or to get more information.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
From her phone?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Are they actively I know that you know it was reported,
but has it been said that they're actually investigating and
looking into the other's phones to see.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Who's on the other line? Is that happening too.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That I don't you mean, like from the scammers. Yeah,
I don't know. I know that it was reported to police,
but I haven't seen any reports about whether or not
they've caught someone or whether or not they're investigating that.
I assume they are. I assume I'm gonna assume they are.
As far as it goes with finding Casey, I mean,
(37:25):
most likely these scammers are just that scammers and they're
being assholes.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, still hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And lock them up for sure, but they still need
to be held accountable.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Huh. But also like if and I know that you
can find information and play.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
With it or whatever. But even if it's a scammer,
like no, I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Say, maybe they know something, no more. But if it's
just someone who saw an AD and is like, oh,
I can just get a little bit of money out
of somebody type thing, I get that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, either way, this person needs to be right
like found and questioned because if there is a possibility
that they do no more and they're just being an
ass as well, then they definitely should be questioned. I
know it's being investigated, but I haven't seen any I mean,
I know it was reported, but I haven't seen any
updates in that investigation, specifically about the scammers.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, we're gonna need to see some updates in this, so.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I hope to god I could literally be.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
With So it's like fourteen months ish since she's been missing, Wow, wow,
and no sightings, like nothing credible and nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
That's like the.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Last confirmed sightings of her were from that day.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Unfortunately, the family doesn't have anyone in Russia they her
out there. No, I don't think so that was that
was Tammy ultimately like okay, shut up, my god, like
you're not well of course, like none of me wants
to believe that this mom would up and leave her kids,
you know, hmm.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't think she did. I don't think I. I
think that even if it was a voluntary quote unquote
voluntary of her leaving, I don't think she meant. I
don't think she was in like all of the right
(39:33):
state of mind. And I think that if she did
mean to leave it. She didn't mean to leave for
that long. Yeah, Like she was going through some sort
of she was going through some stuff. She did walk away,
it wasn't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
So and then when they looked into Evan, Yeah, I
was I almost said Ethan for a second. Evan, he
took the polygraph like, there's nothing else that they.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
He's not considered a suspects at all. I mean they.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Which hopefully that all tracks. Then there's four children that
need him.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So. Casey Oder was thirty four years
old when she went missing from Weld County, Colorado, on
January fourteenth, twenty twenty four. Casey is five to nine
and weighs one hundred and ten pounds at the time
she was missing, she had platinum blonde hair, She has
(40:35):
hazel eyes, and she was last seen wearing jeans, a
brown jacket, knee high combat style boots, and she was
carrying a backpack. If you have any information about her disappearance,
please call Detective Stuka at nine seven zero four zero
zero two eight three to two, or you can call
(40:59):
the tip line nine seven zero three zero four six
four six' four and you can also email your tip
To crime tips at weld dot. Gov and you, know
the last THING i kind of want to say is just,
(41:22):
again remember That may Is mental Health awareness. Month so
let this be a reminder that as a, society we
we should be promoting promoting mental well. Being we need
to continue to learn and educate ourselves to encourage a
(41:42):
better understanding of those who are affected by mental health,
issues and this includes reducing the stigma around mental health.
Conditions we talked about how fortunate it is that in this,
case In casey's, case her mental health history did not
keep the authorities from doing all the right, things because
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we have certainly seen in the past that that stigma
around a person's mental health history can influence how a
case was. Handled so again we're talking About casey's case
today to spread awareness in hopes that our listeners will
support the further investigation into the. Case go to change dot,
org go to that, link and that the more people
(42:26):
who hear About casey and her, case it can reach
the right, ears it can reach the right people who
have more information to. Share and again we're talking about
this as well to spread awareness about the importance of
understanding mental health. Issues and, again if you are in
need of mental health, resources you can visit nine eight
(42:47):
eight lifeline dot, org or if you want to talk
to someone right, now you can call our text nine
eight eight.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah and do. That for those of you guys that are.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Struggling know that it's okay to take that, leap to
take that, jump to choose yourself to live another, day
to be, here to you, know just keep fighting on.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Mm, yeah this is your. Sign take it from.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Us, yes this is your.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Sign, yeah wow wow, Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Casey it's. Heartbreaking it is because it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
One of those things where when it comes to missing
persons cases in, GENERAL i struggle so hard for numerous
reasons because if it's not being investigated, ENOUGH i. Struggle
if it's being investigated so much and there's, NOTHING i.
Struggle it's just always this, struggle. Right but then at
(43:45):
the same, TIME i don't see how people AND i
know that it. Happens so AS i say, This i'm
not trying to sound like a fucking fool right, now you,
know but it's like.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
If she would have went and taken her own life
or something like, that where is?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
She? Right that's What I'm where is? She that's What i'm, saying.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So it's, like is she with? Somebody is she somewhere?
Else and it has there been sightings like that kind of.
Stuff is what really really irks me the most is
the fact that you don't just go missing like.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That, exactly because it reminds me of Like Elayne, park
where there was a mental health emergency based on you,
know all the, evidence and but now it's, like where is?
Speaker 4 (44:41):
She we were just talking about, This heather.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Me so my you, guys if you.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Do not remember The Elayne park, episode we also covered
My Terce, richardson my my aunt and uncle who live
in right, there right, there Calab it's like they we
were just talking about their cases and.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
They're just it's two other cases.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
That have a very very very heavy mental health aspect to, it.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Uh huh for. Sure so, yeah and it's and it's
definitely one of those things WHERE i feel like they
did a, search like they searched like you can you
can see the evidence of their, search and like you,
said if if it is a situation like, that they
would have found. Her so there's got to be someone
(45:35):
out there who knows something else and that person needs
to come, forward right and you, know whatever the case
is it needs you, know they're like someone can't just
like straight up disappear right.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Right, wow, WELL I i mean you did great covering.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It it definitely we need to get as much out
there as we can On. Casey we need to continue
sharing her, story her, name her, face her, information which
we will do our part for.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Sure but you.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Guys go go sign that change dot org petition that's
in the show.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Notes mm, hmm share the share her, picture share.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Her she's. Beautiful you guys really should. Check yeah. CHECK i,
mean we'll obviously post. It but she's you can just
tell from her, pictures like the. Smile it really. Is
it's like.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
She has four four, boys yeah, her you know who need.
Her so let's do. That Wowser's Wowser's.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Heather, yep there's There's Casey. Yoder so thank you guys
for tuning in for another. WEEK I i hope that
Your may starts off and is just full of bear
healthy mental health for all of you out there listening
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and just take those steps that you. Need it's just
as important as your physical, health and if not more,
important because we've seen so many times where mental health
obviously impacts our physical.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Health so you need a good mental health to take
care of your physical.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
You gotta do. It SO i just wish all of
you a very very Happy may happy mental health and
do all of the all of the things to to
make sure that you're in a good. PLACE i will
be doing my best to do the. Same nah until
next time you. Guys, yes we will talk to you
guys next.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Week, okay love you, BYE i love you.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
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Be we should have said that the beginning of our
last episode or end of our last. Episode oh, god
h
Casey Yoder went missing on January fourteenth, twenty twenty four.
Over a year of investigation by family, friends, and authorities
has yielded no answers. The community and those closest to her,
including her four children, still don't know exactly what happened
on that faded afternoon.
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(03:26):
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(03:49):
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lives depend on you and you it's really hard to
be there for anyone else if you're not also taking
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Speaker 3 (04:08):
So yeah, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
One thing I want to make sure to bring to
everyone's attention is that you know it is May, and
you know in efforts to promote mental well being and
educate on mental health and reduce any stigma surrounding mental
health issues. We will discuss it today in the episode,
(04:32):
because mental health does play a role in today's case,
and it is definitely our hope here on Like Motherlike
Murder that when we're covering cases like this, not only
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(04:53):
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really hoping that we can encourage some empathy and some
understanding for those who are affected by various mental health conditions.
And so I'm going to repeat this at least one
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(05:37):
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There's no better time than now.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I love that you're bringing this. I love that
you touched on all of that because it is truly
so important and I yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel so. This is just such a big, big.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Topic and conversation and importance that so many people, so
many people struggle with mental health problems and or they
know someone who is struggling, you know, and that affects
them as well. It's one of the things I think
that's not talked about as much, you know, because you're
(06:35):
it's always trying to get the help for the person
who needs it, but so many people are around and
try to support.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
These people who go through stuff too, So it is
really just.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Something that needs as much kind of like focus and
help and eyes and support and resources and all of that.
So I'm really glad that you're covering something that is
going to touch on that today.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, for sure, I felt I mean may snuck up
on us, for sure, for sure. But I was going
through some of our older episodes and in the past
we've covered, like we re released them in May, just
to really again just provide that education, provide that little
(07:20):
bit of knowledge when it comes to mental health and
so I wanted to do the same thing today. I
wanted to bring a case that is definitely mental health related,
and uh, we are we are going to get into it.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Sounds good, Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Despite over a year of investigation by local authorities, with
consultation from the Colorado Bureau of Investigations and the FBI,
rallying by friends, family, and the community, we still do
not know what happened the cold afternoon of January fourteenth,
twenty twenty four, when then thirty four year old Casey
(08:18):
Yoder allegedly walked away from her home just east of Eton, Colorado. Oh,
I just got chills. Anna Green is one of Casey's
closest friends. They grew up facing challenges like motherhood together.
Anna described Casey as enthusiastic with infectious energy. This is
(08:45):
a sentiment that Casey's mom, Tammy Ruth echoed. Tammy explained
how Casey had an infectious smile end quote. She'd walk
into a room and light up the whole thing end quote.
Tammy says that Casey has been that way since childhood.
That they would go to grocery stores and she'd compliment
(09:07):
people one by one she was just a fun, extroverted person.
And Anna described Casey as a social butterfly.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Casey so amazing, Like she just everything that you're saying, she's.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Just yeah, And if you look at pictures, there's a
lot of pictures of her, and she just you can tell,
like you get the vibe and that energy from her,
like right, just even just from the picture, you can.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Tell, Yeah, we'd want to be her friend for.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Sure, and after what I'm going to tell you, you want
to just love her and be her friend even more so.
Casey lived in Colorado with Evan Tipton. Some reports I
read said that he was her husband, others said long
term boyfriend. So I don't know if maybe it was
(09:58):
one of those do they call those after you've been
married or living with someone for like seven years? You
know what I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now, dreaming right now they're saying, like everyone is like
common law, common law, got it? So she had been
been with Evan for a long time. And Casey is
also a mom to four boys. Wow do you imagine
(10:28):
four points? No, my grandma, my dad is one of
four and my grandma must have been a saint because
I don't even know how she did that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I have three step sons.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I mean that is true, and a daughter. That's that
you are. But I know you're a saint, So that's fine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well so she she she truly is.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And I'm going to tell you some stuff and you're like, oh, yeah,
for one hundred percent, she's a saint.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So Casey was devoted hard mother, and this was especially
evident in how she cared for her eldest son, who
was born with a severe birth defect. Unfortunately, because of
this birth defect, he couldn't walk, he couldn't talk. He
did require a wheelchair. That, of course, did not stop
(11:21):
Casey from making the most of life. Casey had taken
up roller skating when she was growing up, and she
continued this activity with her children. So Casey would skate
with her boys and she would push her eldest in
his wheelchair while skating.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
I love that. That's so beautiful. Oh Heather's already all
up in the fields.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
No, it is.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That is so sweet and just like all such a
good way inclusive, you know what I mean, Like it's
just such a good way to like bring everyone together
because It's not like her and her one son was
doing it was like they were all doing.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It the family. When Casey disappeared, she was in the
process of getting her Certified Nursing Assistant license or her
CNA license so that she could become his formal caregiver. Okay,
and she only had one more test to take. This
devotion to her family is one of the reasons that
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all of her friends, all of her family were very
confused by her disappearance last January. And now, unfortunately, with
Casey gone and unable to provide that care for her
eldest at home, he is now in a long term
care facility by himself.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Man, that's so heartbreaking. It really How old was How
old was the oldest son?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
He's older. I don't have the exact ages because I think,
you know, they're trying.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
To Yeah, they want to keep it. He is old.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Was she at this thirty four?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Thirty four, So that age range can be kind of
yea everywhere at that point.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So let's talk about the day leading up to her disappearance.
I do want to provide a trigger warning here as
we will be discussing thoughts of suicide, so please take
care of yourselves and if you need to just skip
forward about thirty seconds. On January thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
Casey had what you could consider a mental health emergency.
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She was on the phone with her best friend Anna,
and she was saying things that really made Anna worry,
things like she was gonna go lay down in the
snow and let herself freeze to death. This could be
connected to reports that Casey had stopped taking her medications
for bipolar disorder. And we see this happen all too often.
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An individual with a mental health condition they're taking medications
for and the medications are working, and they start feeling really,
really good, so they think, hey, I'm better, I can
stop taking them. But just the way that you have
to finish your prescription, like the way that when you
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have strep throat or an ear infection or something like that,
and the doctor says take this for fourteen days, even
if you feel better after three, you have to continue
to take it. It's the same thing with prescriptions that
are given for mental health issues. You have to continue
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taking your medications. This is something that I'm very familiar with.
You can't just stop as good as you're feeling about
how your life is going. And again I think that
this has a little bit to do with the stigma
that surrounds mental health and taking a prescription for mental
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health issues. What you have to kind of think about
is some people have to take blood pressure medication, some
people have to take like cholesterol medication. Taking a medication
for a mental health issue is no different from that.
Your body just needs whatever it is to work right,
and the same goes for whether it's your heart, your blood,
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or your head. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I highly recommend, though, while you're taking medication for
everyone to also be implementing different things and for your
lives to you know, whether it's going outside or eating
better or reading or changing different things. Because medication, some
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medication is long term. It's always going to be there.
It's something that you need sometimes you do. You eventually
don't need that anymore, for whatever it may be, and
so you have to you have to have made these
things or learned learn the things that are going to
help you when you're no longer taking the medication as well.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's a good point. And here's and we're going to
go a little off topic a kind of but not really,
because this is about mental health. The way that the
best way that I've had it described to me. The
medication isn't about making you feel one hundred percent better.
The medication is getting your body to the point where
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it can function enough that you can take those steps
to make you feel better. Yea, So the medication is
about like let's say you have depression. The medication is
about doing enough for your you know, your serotonin levels
that you can now get up out of bed and
go for a walk or do that meditation that makes
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you feel the rest of your way better. It's about
evening you out so that you can continue to do,
like what Rachel said, those things that are we know
are good for our mental health. Take walks outside, get
some sunshine, meditate, journal, do whatever it is. But sometimes
your body is just so and your your brain is
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just so broken or put down or just in a
place that it just can't even get to the point
to allow you to do those things. But what medication
does is it gives you that extra boosty, right, Yeah,
so you can start working on yourself. It's not Yeah,
it's definitely not a cure all like it will. You're
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only gonna get out what you put in, right, so
that's a really good point. We've been there, Yeah, I've
been there. So back to Casey these statements, she was
talking to her best friend Anna. Anna was of course worried.
She checked in with Casey the next day and she said,
Casey seemed better. It might have just been a low point,
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you know, a thought that was just kind of in
and out.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Casey's mom, Tammy, had also talked to Casey the next day,
on the fourteenth, just an hour before her disappearance, and
Tammy said Casey seemed fine. She said, quote, she was
in good spirits end quote. So when the call dropped,
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Tammy didn't think much of it. She just thought, okay,
she'll just call me back, okay, right, okay. So that afternoon,
around four pm on January fourteenth, twenty twenty four, Casey
left her home on Appy Road near Eaton, Colorado. Evan,
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the long term boyfriend's slash husband, said that she did
take keys for both vehicles, but she set out on
foot and she had told Evan that she was going
to spend the night with her best friend Anna. Casey
took a change of clothes, small backpack and she was off.
But the next morning, Anna got a call from Tammy,
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Casey's mom. Once they realized that no, Casey was not
at Anna's house, they called to Evan and they were like, hey,
what's up. At this point, everyone is putting together the
pieces and realizing that no one has actually seen or
heard from Casey since yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Oh man, I'm instantly like, okay, I need to know
more about Evan. I need to know things I know.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, don't worry, we'll get there. We'll get there. So
Anna explains that she was really concerned and pretty upset
with Evan. She was like, what the heck? You knew
she had a hard day yesterday, Like you should have
been checking in more. But he was under the impression
that she was off to Anna's house. So she knew
that Casey was in a vulnerable state, and so she
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she just was really concerned, and Evan was the one
who ended up reporting her missing on January fifteenth, at
eleven twenty nine, AM. Okay, so let's dig into the investigation.
On July twenty six, twenty twenty four, this is about
six months after her disappearance, the Well Shariff they'd released
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a statement and it's just a really good statement because
it recaps the whole investigation. So I'm gonna kind of
summarize it, but first I'm going to start with the
quote they have at the top of their statement. This
update is being issued with the hope that if anyone
knows anything about Casey's disappearance and they have not come forward,
we asked them to do so. Now we also ask
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for the public and the members of the media to
understand this is still an active and ongoing investigation and
we intend to preserve its integrity for Casey and her family.
End quote. So in those six months, unfortunately, investigative efforts
have not uncovered where Casey went or where she could be.
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But I'm telling you it was not for lack of trying.
We have seen some half ass, zero ass investigations in
the past, especially when there's some kind of mental health
piece of it. Right, But I can say now that
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is not what happened here.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Oh good, because we've seen some absolutely amazing, amazing investigations.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We just talked about one. Claire's investigation was amazing, and
we've definitely seen some poor, poor fucking investigations. Yeah, So,
in the six months after Casey disappeared, here's everything the
world Sheriff Department did. They spoke to over twenty members
of Casey's family, friends, and uninvolved witnesses. This included conducting
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conventional interviews, forensic interviews, and a polygraph which I will
get into. I bet you can guess who they polygraphed.
They followed up on roughly fifty community tips about Casey,
including alleged sightings of her. She was last seen at
a liquor store. This was her last confirmed location and
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they conducted an in depth two square mile search using drones,
k nines, and foot searches. Okay, they did bolos be
on the lookouts that were sent to all the surrounding
law enforcements agencies. They spoke directly with seven other law
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enforcement agencies asking for help, and because of them reaching out,
these other agencies sent out specialized teams wherever they felt like, Okay,
this is the area we need to check. They did
visual searches along the major roads and interconnected roads from
Weld County area in to Fort Collins now Weld County.
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Where she was was technically unincorporated. Eton is the town,
but like where she was was, I guess just outside
of Eton. It's it seems like a very small but
big area, like small population wise, but kind of like
a big geographical area. And if you head west of
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the Eaton area, you hit the bigger city of Fort Collins.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Okay, So they turn how she was. It just wasn't
heavy populated, right.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Right, But they checked everything in between her area and
Fort Collins, Okay. They also consulted with the Colorado of
Burea Investigations and the FBI, which is we have seen
so many times and talked about so many times, how
like when it's a smaller jurisdiction, maybe they don't have
as many resources and or the background and the expertise
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they need to call in reinforcements. They did, They indeed did,
which is great. And they also have continued to work
with the local DA and the Judicial District for search
authority so that they can gather more evidence and narrow
the search down. I'll talk a little bit more about
the warrants that they've been trying to get. In addition
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to all of those things that were conducted by the authorities,
the Weld County sheriffs and then everyone that they kind
of tasked with helping them, the family also had a
PI working on the case, and this PI explained that
they checked hospitals, that they checked psychiatric facilities, jails, and
remember I mentioned that polygraph. So the PI confirmed that
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it was Evan who was given the polygraph. And Evan
came out and said, yeah, you know, they gave me
the polygraph. I passed it and she was able to
confirm that with the investigative agency.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So yeah, the private investigator was the.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Prime investigator confirmed that, Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
He's stuff that we this. Everything you're saying is exactly
the stuff that you want to hear that early on
and throughout investigations, exactly any sort of missing person's unsolved,
whatever it may be, you want to see all of
the time, all of the efforts, all of the here's something.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Okay, we're going to try this, we're going to do this.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
This is new, you know, And that's exactly. Yeah, it's
happening so far.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You always, I always worry when I find cases like
this because like the first thing they say, right is like, okay,
this mother afore went missing, and then you read that
she had had a mental health emergency the day before
she went missing, and there's reports that she maybe had
stopped her medication. So you're like, oh my god, Oh
my god, They're just going to say, oh, well she
just ran am Yeah, but they were all in this.
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The Weld County Sheriff's a big shout out to them.
They they did not let that stigma or the possibility
that even if this was voluntary, that that was that
was not going to stop them from investigating, which was.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It makes me think of like certain cases, so like
Kaalana Turner or Dy Playing who you know, have had
things happen, had situations, episodes, whatever it may be.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
And and then you are just.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Talk about the way that the investigation went because they
blamed it all on a mental health issue. Yeah, no,
I know. And so I was obviously like super scared.
I mean, we've we've talked about things like this before.
It was really encouraging to see this handled. This is
exactly how it should have been handled, and they did.
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They did it. So Currently that p I said that
deputies are also working to get access to Casey's phone
wreck So there is currently a change dot org petition
for more access to her phone records the links in
the bio. I will talk about this a little bit more,
but that that is currently where the investigation stands they
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are trying to get some more info from her phone.
So on top of the authorities, official investigation and the PI,
Casey's mom, of course, is all in on this. She's
been constantly searching for Casey herself, putting up as many
posters as possible, speaking with anyone and everyone who may
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have even the slightest idea of what could have happened
to her daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
No, no, no.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
No, I have a feeling.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I heard you say that that's where it stands, and
I can't stand for that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, I will go over the little the little bit
of information that we have. So since January twenty twenty four,
there's not much inform that's become available. But here's what
we do know. Casey left her house around four pm
that day. Witnesses later placed her alt liquor between five
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and nine pm that night. Now, from what I can
figure out just from Google Maps, this liquor store was
about five miles from her house, so I don't know
if she like walked it or what, but she originally
set out from her house on foot. The bag that
she was carrying with the change of clothes it was
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found at an intersection near her home along with her
son's cell phone. Oh what Yeah, but Casey's cell phone
has not been found. Her bank account was also untouched.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So her phone wasn't found.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But are they I know that you said they're going
to do more searches onto her phone, but are they
even able to see as a of right now whether
or not there's been any more usage on her phone?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So that's the problem, right from what other people can see,
they could they know that there was no calls, no
texts after she went missing, right, But, like I mentioned it,
there's a petition right now on change dot org. The
link will be in the bio to get more access
to her phone records. So this petition, it was created
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by Casey's friend Anna, and is addressed to the District
Chief Justice and it's basically requesting approval for a warrant
for law enforcement to access Casey's phone records. So law
enforcements all in they have this warrant, they just need
approval from the judge. The link is in the bio.
I'm urging you all to just go sign it. They're
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so close to their goal and they just need to
know that enough there's enough support to get approval to
look into her phone records.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, definitely go do that. I gotta do that after this.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
If this warren is granted, when this warn is granted,
let's put it into existence, let's manifest it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
It can hopefully.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Shed some light into the time around her disappearance. Now
currently the weld share share weld Sheriff's apartment. They do
not suspect any criminal activity is involved currently, but the
phone records may be able to confirm whether or not
there's suspicious circumstances involved. Here here's the thing though, Like
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I said, they don't have any reason to believe there's
something criminal going on currently. But in that statement they
made in July, they did say that false or misleading
statements are not helpful and only slow the efforts to
find Casey. So this makes me believe that someone out
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there was being an ass and provided false or misleading statements.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, we don't like that.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, no, that's not cool, Like.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
What the freakin' heck.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They also go on to say that there have even
been statements saying like someone has made a statement saying
they know some helpful information about where Casey could be.
But then whoever made these statements, they wouldn't then talk
to detectives. So also that I don't like, like, that's suspicious.
I mean, it's possibly criminal even if it has even
(31:33):
if that person had nothing to do with Casey's disappearance.
If you're potentially hindering an official investigation, yeap, that's criminal.
But that's not the only criminal thing I'm gonna talk about.
And this is really going to piss you off.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Oh here we go.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Let's talk about some definitely criminal, horrible, filthy scum of
the earth people that is related to Casey's disappearance, but
probably not in the way that you think. Okay, So,
to add insult to injury, there are some, like I said,
just absolutely scum people trying to take advantage of Casey's
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family during this already vulnerable, heartbreaking time. Both Casey's mom, Tammy,
and one of her sons were approached by scammers pretending
to be Casey and asking for money.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Gosh, it's such a Laylas Santanello type freaking like, it's.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
So shitty, it's so shitty, it's so shitty, it's so shitty.
It is Santanello. That's exactly what it reminds me of.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
People are so sick.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I know, I know. Tammy would explain that these messages
would say things like you give me the money, I'll
be back tomorrow, claiming to be casey and saying they
have beat me up, they kidnapped me, I don't remember anything.
This one just like it breaks your heart and pisses
you off all at the same time. Here's the and
this is a quote. I want to come to you mother, Mom.
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Do you want me to continue to suffer? So Tammy
said that she kept asking whoever was on the other
side of these messages like to call her, like call me,
like I want to call you, you know, I need
to talk to you. And when whoever was on the
other line finally called, someone just said Mom helped me before.
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The rest was kind of like muffled, and that was.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Kind of all that was her voice or like a
girl or anything.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Think it was too muffled for her to really like
get anything out of it. But the messages continued. But
apparently then this person said that they were in Russia,
and Tammy was like no, like Tammy's like I knew
this wasn't my daughter, and so she basically told this
person like you're not my daughter. Shut up, I need,
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I need to focus on finding my daughter. To make
it even worse, though, this piece of absolute trash was
not only messaging Tammy's mom but also messaging Okay, I'm sorry,
messaging Casey's mom, Tammy, You're right, yeah, but she was
also messaging one of her Casey's, one of Casey's sons.
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And the report I read, I know, I believe this
report said the son. It was the son who I
believe was nine at the time, and it's heartbreaking because
he was responding to this message. And Tammy said, like
he was responding to these messages thinking like it's his mom,
and he was writing things like Mom, I love you,
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come home, I love you, I miss you.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Also, the person that was messaging was pretending to be
her at that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Point, was pretending to be Casey.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Okay, I was like, why bring the kid into it?
Speaker 2 (34:54):
But then because they're pretending to be Casey, still disgusting
and all lutely discussing.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So Tammy does the right thing though. She reported the
incident to police, and she actually reported it to this
non profit organization called Justice Takes Flight, which helps families
of missing people, and they made some statements saying like unfortunately,
like this happens to these families who are already missing
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a loved one. People try to take advantage of the situation.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Can't they track from the sun's phone or the mom's phone.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, I'm hoping that because Tammy reported it to the police,
like the same way in Layla Santonello's case, they were
able to track it exactly. I'm hoping that, you know,
since she reported it to police, that they will be
able to investigate it because it's like that person needs
to pay that's bull.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you know, it is a very very big problem,
and it's I don't know, the term is not coming
to my brain.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Arrestable offense.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh yeah, it is. It's completely because you're you're you're
committing like fraud, you're trying to get money from people
under a false pretense.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
In Layla's case, Michael got sixteen years because of it.
So everyone who thinks that it's okay to fuck around,
you're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
That's all there is to say about that. Hell yeah, sorry, Rachel,
that's where we stand.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No, it's not it is it is so okay.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
So they.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
They have the change dot change to search her phone
or to get more information.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
From her phone?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Are they actively I know that you know it was reported,
but has it been said that they're actually investigating and
looking into the other's phones to see.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Who's on the other line? Is that happening too.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That I don't you mean, like from the scammers. Yeah,
I don't know. I know that it was reported to police,
but I haven't seen any reports about whether or not
they've caught someone or whether or not they're investigating that.
I assume they are. I assume I'm gonna assume they are.
As far as it goes with finding Casey, I mean,
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most likely these scammers are just that scammers and they're
being assholes.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, still hold them accountable.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And lock them up for sure, but they still need
to be held accountable.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Huh. But also like if and I know that you
can find information and play.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
With it or whatever. But even if it's a scammer,
like no, I was gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Say, maybe they know something, no more. But if it's
just someone who saw an AD and is like, oh,
I can just get a little bit of money out
of somebody type thing, I get that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, either way, this person needs to be right
like found and questioned because if there is a possibility
that they do no more and they're just being an
ass as well, then they definitely should be questioned. I
know it's being investigated, but I haven't seen any I mean,
I know it was reported, but I haven't seen any
updates in that investigation, specifically about the scammers.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, we're gonna need to see some updates in this, so.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I hope to god I could literally be.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
With So it's like fourteen months ish since she's been missing, Wow, wow,
and no sightings, like nothing credible and nothing.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
That's like the.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Last confirmed sightings of her were from that day.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Unfortunately, the family doesn't have anyone in Russia they her
out there. No, I don't think so that was that
was Tammy ultimately like okay, shut up, my god, like
you're not well of course, like none of me wants
to believe that this mom would up and leave her kids,
you know, hmm.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't think she did. I don't think I. I
think that even if it was a voluntary quote unquote
voluntary of her leaving, I don't think she meant. I
don't think she was in like all of the right
(39:33):
state of mind. And I think that if she did
mean to leave it. She didn't mean to leave for
that long. Yeah, Like she was going through some sort
of she was going through some stuff. She did walk away,
it wasn't Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
So and then when they looked into Evan, Yeah, I
was I almost said Ethan for a second. Evan, he
took the polygraph like, there's nothing else that they.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
He's not considered a suspects at all. I mean they.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Which hopefully that all tracks. Then there's four children that
need him.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Mm hmm. Yeah. So. Casey Oder was thirty four years
old when she went missing from Weld County, Colorado, on
January fourteenth, twenty twenty four. Casey is five to nine
and weighs one hundred and ten pounds at the time
she was missing, she had platinum blonde hair, She has
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hazel eyes, and she was last seen wearing jeans, a
brown jacket, knee high combat style boots, and she was
carrying a backpack. If you have any information about her disappearance,
please call Detective Stuka at nine seven zero four zero
zero two eight three to two, or you can call
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the tip line nine seven zero three zero four six
four six' four and you can also email your tip
To crime tips at weld dot. Gov and you, know
the last THING i kind of want to say is just,
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again remember That may Is mental Health awareness. Month so
let this be a reminder that as a, society we
we should be promoting promoting mental well. Being we need
to continue to learn and educate ourselves to encourage a
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better understanding of those who are affected by mental health,
issues and this includes reducing the stigma around mental health.
Conditions we talked about how fortunate it is that in this,
case In casey's, case her mental health history did not
keep the authorities from doing all the right, things because
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we have certainly seen in the past that that stigma
around a person's mental health history can influence how a
case was. Handled so again we're talking About casey's case
today to spread awareness in hopes that our listeners will
support the further investigation into the. Case go to change dot,
org go to that, link and that the more people
(42:26):
who hear About casey and her, case it can reach
the right, ears it can reach the right people who
have more information to. Share and again we're talking about
this as well to spread awareness about the importance of
understanding mental health. Issues and, again if you are in
need of mental health, resources you can visit nine eight
(42:47):
eight lifeline dot, org or if you want to talk
to someone right, now you can call our text nine
eight eight.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah and do. That for those of you guys that are.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Struggling know that it's okay to take that, leap to
take that, jump to choose yourself to live another, day
to be, here to you, know just keep fighting on.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Mm, yeah this is your. Sign take it from.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Us, yes this is your.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Sign, yeah wow wow, Wow.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Casey it's. Heartbreaking it is because it's like it's.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
One of those things where when it comes to missing
persons cases in, GENERAL i struggle so hard for numerous
reasons because if it's not being investigated, ENOUGH i. Struggle
if it's being investigated so much and there's, NOTHING i.
Struggle it's just always this, struggle. Right but then at
(43:45):
the same, TIME i don't see how people AND i
know that it. Happens so AS i say, This i'm
not trying to sound like a fucking fool right, now you,
know but it's like.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
If she would have went and taken her own life
or something like, that where is?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
She? Right that's What I'm where is? She that's What i'm, saying.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
So it's, like is she with? Somebody is she somewhere?
Else and it has there been sightings like that kind of.
Stuff is what really really irks me the most is
the fact that you don't just go missing like.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
That, exactly because it reminds me of Like Elayne, park
where there was a mental health emergency based on you,
know all the, evidence and but now it's, like where is?
Speaker 4 (44:41):
She we were just talking about, This heather.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
Me so my you, guys if you.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Do not remember The Elayne park, episode we also covered
My Terce, richardson my my aunt and uncle who live
in right, there right, there Calab it's like they we
were just talking about their cases and.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
They're just it's two other cases.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
That have a very very very heavy mental health aspect to, it.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Uh huh for. Sure so, yeah and it's and it's
definitely one of those things WHERE i feel like they
did a, search like they searched like you can you
can see the evidence of their, search and like you,
said if if it is a situation like, that they
would have found. Her so there's got to be someone
(45:35):
out there who knows something else and that person needs
to come, forward right and you, know whatever the case
is it needs you, know they're like someone can't just
like straight up disappear right.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Right, wow, WELL I i mean you did great covering.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It it definitely we need to get as much out
there as we can On. Casey we need to continue
sharing her, story her, name her, face her, information which
we will do our part for.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Sure but you.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Guys go go sign that change dot org petition that's
in the show.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Notes mm, hmm share the share her, picture share.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Her she's. Beautiful you guys really should. Check yeah. CHECK i,
mean we'll obviously post. It but she's you can just
tell from her, pictures like the. Smile it really. Is
it's like.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
She has four four, boys yeah, her you know who need.
Her so let's do. That Wowser's Wowser's.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Heather, yep there's There's Casey. Yoder so thank you guys
for tuning in for another. WEEK I i hope that
Your may starts off and is just full of bear
healthy mental health for all of you out there listening
(47:05):
and just take those steps that you. Need it's just
as important as your physical, health and if not more,
important because we've seen so many times where mental health
obviously impacts our physical.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Health so you need a good mental health to take
care of your physical.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
You gotta do. It SO i just wish all of
you a very very Happy may happy mental health and
do all of the all of the things to to
make sure that you're in a good. PLACE i will
be doing my best to do the. Same nah until
next time you. Guys, yes we will talk to you
guys next.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
Week, okay love you, BYE i love you.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Bye the, sneeze don't, sorry it's right, there say.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Pineapple look into the, light turn around and look at
the like mother.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
Like murder sign that, fine Love may it's gonna.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Be we should have said that the beginning of our
last episode or end of our last. Episode oh, god
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