The Good, The Badass, and The Crime #13

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Welcome to Like Mother Like Murder. I am Rachel and
I'm Heather. We bring you the good, the badass, and
the crime. This is Like Mother, Like Murder. Hello everyone,

(00:34):
and welcome to Like Mother, Like Murder, your favorite true
crime mom cast. I am Rachel and I am Heather,
and each week we bring you mom related to true crime,
from missing Moms, two murdered moms, moms who murder, survivors,
and much much more, including good, the badass, and the crime,

(00:56):
which we will be talking about this week. Because we
are thirteen thirty or thirteen good badass crime. Maybe it's crazy,
because actually I love these I love doing them. We've
always said they're kind of the ones that are the

(01:17):
palate cleanser, the one that kind of like keeps us
I want to say, sane throughout all of the heavy
and everything that we do, but these are our lighter episodes.
The crimes that we cover typically more of a petty
style crime, So none of this will be anything that
is too heavy and the majority of the crying, the
majority of the heavy is from like us talking about

(01:37):
badass women in this episode, Yeah for sure, for sure.
Oh my badass mom is a badass mom. Well, and
it's so funny because, like I, this happens a lot
too where I couldn't pick which good, which one was good,
and which one was badass because they're both pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Good and badass.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I always agree I have the exact same where I'm
just like, well, they kind of are interchangeable because also,
uh yeah, and then spoiler alert, I think that even
my crime has some badass in there too, So I'm
just like, it's just themed badassery in this episode right now.
But my crime, my crime is not good or bad mine.

(02:16):
It is like so ridiculous. Well and I was so good,
we'll get there, we'll get there. My crime is something else.
So actually, to start number thirteen, I would like to
start with a personal crime. If you are open to
listening to me tell you a story. All you guys,

(02:38):
So I called Heather the other day? Did I call
you or end up texting you? Did you? I called this? Oh?
Are you texting me the picture? You just sent me
the picture? And what a good five? So you guys,
a long long time ago, we did a good the

(02:59):
badass and crime. No, it wasn't even a good the
badass in the crime. It was an ABC of crime.
I think it was. Yeah, it was an ABC of crime, which, wow,
how have I not done one of those to do?
Because those are way too chaotic, Like we have a
different vibe, but that one's chaotic. You guys, let me
know you need some chaotic energy because I can totally

(03:19):
do an ABC of crime. But in one of those
abcs of crime, I talk about a mother who legit
was arrested because she did not pay her library dues
or fines or fees or whatever that she claims she

(03:39):
didn't know about. She was like, what are you even
talking about? But went from not knowing about it to
actually arrested, And I would like to say that was
almost me this weekend. I was not almost arrested. But
let me take you back in time where we on Sunday,

(04:01):
which I didn't even know libraries were open on Sundays.
I thought they were always closed. And my step son
wanted to go to the library. He had like specific
books he wanted to get. So the four of us
go to the library. Kenzy goes up there with three books.
I go up there with one book, which I am
so excited. I finally got my hands on the Sherry Frankie,

(04:22):
the House of my mother books. So I'm reading that
right now, so cannot wait. And then StEB had his
books and we go to check out and he looks
up from his computer. He just like stares me dead
in the eyes. He goes, you have a block on
your account or something. And I looked at I was like,
what does that even mean? And he goes, it means

(04:44):
you owe us one hundred and thirty dollars. I was like, huh,
And I like, look over a Joel who did one
of those like looks like this where he's like and
I'm like, okay, we elaborate, please, like please, no, I
don't first of all, second of all, what And so

(05:07):
he printed out the receipt, which is the picture I
sent to Heather. And on this receipt there were seven
items costing I want to say it was like one
hundred and thirty or one hundred and twenty seven or
thirty seven, I don't know. I was like my Jalla
was on the floor and I'm like, I don't have
these books. I don't have these books. I brought these
books back forever ago. So he's like, well, we don't

(05:28):
have them. So what he said was I'm gonna call
them to arrest you. I'm just kidding. He said, go home,
find the books. So we went home and we were
all on a mission to find these books. And what
I will say is we had a six out of
the seven of these books, you guys, and four of

(05:50):
them were in a purse. I don't carry a purse
like ever ever. I have this one Michael's like Michael
Core's read purse that I got at like a Christmas
party years ago, and it's the one person I have
because I was giving it like I want it. Yeah,
oh good. So anyways, four of the books were in

(06:11):
that purse in my closet and apparently that to me
means that I was meaning to take them back at
some That's what I think. I think you'd like specifically
put these books in. That person was like I am
taking these books in and then with your brain you
were like, woo did that? Didn't do that? So that's

(06:33):
that's what happened. And you know what's funny, I mean,
none of it was funny. It was actually really humiliating
because throughout this summer I have really let my house
go and so there's piles everywhere, there's so much work
that I have to do. And when I dropped off
my daughter that first day, I was like, oh, guess
who's back. I was already. I was like, okay, time

(06:55):
to congress. We're all to conquer these piles. I actually
had a really really bad back because I had hurt
myself and I don't know if it was a pinch
nerve or what. So no, not to the extent that
I want it to be, but it some has started
and I feel like I have a clear mind ready
to do it. Where I just felt heavy, like I
loved having her, but it's just different. It's like a

(07:17):
different world, you know. And so, uh, that was a
whole different you know. Situation was the crime isn't the
library books, The crime is my house. Like it was
really bad. So we turned the six in. We went
back that day and turned those six in and I

(07:38):
was ready to just pay for the other book. And
he was like, oh no, now that you're under fifty dollars,
you could check books out. And I was like, what
that's the threshold there? Like that you're under fifty on
your fines, you can check books out? Okay? Fair? And
I and I was like, okay, do I just pay

(07:59):
this now because one of the things. So the book
ended up being one of the books that my daughter had,
and the amount of times that we have cleaned her
room and like gotten rid of things and cleaned her
room gotten rid of things, I'm like, it's either in
a box in the garage somewhere, or it is gone
to someone else. Someone else has this library book. And
I'm like, am I gonna find it? So I didn't

(08:20):
pay for it right then and there, I'm like, maybe
it'll come up. I'll probably end up just paying the
twelve ninety nine that that book is, but it was
And you know what I did? I asked him. I
was like, did you guys like contact me? You try
calling me or like sending me And he's like, well,
you know in the mail they send something and I'm like, no, no, no,
that's also in the red purse, that piece of mail. Shit.

(08:47):
You know what's so crazy is I think I was
about Kenzie's age when I the library. The library at
the school was like, oh, you have an overdue book.
And I told my mom, I have no idea where
this book is. I think I lent it to a friend.
And my parents had to pay for a book from

(09:07):
the school because like I was like, I have no
idea where this book is. And my I remember being
deathly scared, and because my my parents, you know, my
parents were like, this is the first and the last
time we will ever be paying for a library book. You.
You have to be taking care of better care of you.
And I was like deathly scared. And yeah, I think

(09:29):
I was about her age the first time and the
last time that that ever happened. It's not even like
a I truly believe it's not even a her thing.
It's not me. It's just that that's what happens. Yeah,
Like and I'm sure that I guarantee you it wasn't
my fault. I think it was the same thing. It
was like my mom's cleaning up my room. We're moving

(09:50):
things around, and who even knows, like we moved like
several times when I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Who knows, you're like the books in New Mexico.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Someone has it. That's so funny, that's crazy. Yeah, so
that is, you know. I I was almost that, I'm
gonna say to the day I die, I was almost
arrested on Sunday on all fraudulent book not paid or
did you know, the library has a button right there
underneath the counter where like if it if the person

(10:27):
comes in and they say they were they they were
seconds away from pressing that button.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
They have the facial recognition on the camera when you
walk in, so it already like alerted them. They have
their earbud. They're like, hey, she's walked in, she's wandering,
better get her. That's why I saw thirty two people
following me the entire time. I'm confused. They think I
was gonna do run out with the House of my
Mother book. Yeah, pretty crazy and actually on the run,

(10:59):
you know what's wild. So one of the books I
think was one of the first books I ever got
from the library, like three years ago. Stop. I think
it was one of the first books because I forget
what it was called. I don't know, but it was

(11:22):
something related. I have the picture. Oh my god, how
funny is that? Yeah, let me know if you're of
let's see here we go, Unspeakable Acts, True Tell of Crime, Murdered, Deceit,
and Obsession. That's the one. Yeah, And I want to

(11:43):
say that was the very first book I checked out
from the library because I can picture me getting that
book and being so excited because I don't read. So
I was like, yay, I'm gonna read a book and
I never did. And then like Joel got like a
fish tank book and so I was like, definitely, I
find I turned that one in. Well, first of all,

(12:04):
I'm just so proud of your family for supporting your
local library, because y'all support your local libraries like those
are literal, you know, little diamonds of information and resources there.
Support your local libraries. And also, don't return your books

(12:28):
right away because they live on those fines. Many you
were actually supporting your local library by not returning your
books sometime. Yeah right, they I actually did turn in.
They brought them back, put them back in my house,
and hit them from me. They were like, you know what,
this girl has no purson. She'll never look in here.

(12:50):
She always comes in here with just her phone in
her pocket. That's that's the only thing I need. Another
crazy thing, and then we really have to get into
the Sorry everybody, not sorry. The last year was the
first summer I was a stay at home mom, and
we utilized the library like crazy. We went to every

(13:16):
single like lunch bunch uh comedy show. One time we
went there to see owls. One time we went there
for an inflatable whale. Last year we were there all
the time. Lego Club, Pokemon Club, and so apparently I
haven't been there in a year. Just trying to check

(13:39):
out any freaking bucks, but I guess not. Yeah, we
were just watching the free shit. It's so crazy to me. Yeah, yeah,
I didn't know the librarians wear headsets nowadays, but I
get it now why they have them. She's here, she's here. Alert,

(14:00):
let's do this. You're ready, right, I'm so ready, Rock
paper scissors for who goes first?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Always?

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Alright, I we read it. Okay, we're gonna open it
up here with the good. Here is the I just
had a fucking Spider Man moment. Moment my bracelet was
gonna fall off of the desk, and I frekat caught it.
It was amazing. That is my good, bad ass meess. Okay,

(14:55):
here is the headline. She was told to terminate her pregnancy.
Now she's raising two sons who are inspiring millions. So
this is from an exclusive article with People when this
mom and her family, especially her eleven year old son,
went viral. So this mom's name is Madison Sisson, and

(15:19):
she was actually born herself with and I'm gonna do
my best to explain or say this lach grimaud areculo
dento digital syndrome or LAD syndrome LA d D syndrome,
which is a rare genetic disorder which is characterized by
a range of anomenalies affecting the lachrymal system, so it

(15:41):
can it can do a bunch of different things, tear production, drainage,
ear malformations, dental issues, and then a lot of times
it comes with like hand and finger deformities. And despite
her own diagnosed diagnosis, Madison's childhood was what she says,
was surprising seeing the quote unquote normal. And at nineteen

(16:03):
she met her future husband, Caine, and they got married
decided to have kids, but due to her own genetic condition,
the testing said that there was a fifty percent chance
that their children could also inherit the same thing LAD.

(16:23):
They still said though, they wanted to move forward and
they had hope, and at twenty one they were pregnant
with their first child and obviously normally joyful milestone, but
it very quickly turned fearful because at the first ultrasound,

(16:43):
the doctors couldn't find their baby's left arm. So the
genetic testing of the baby didn't show signs of LAD,
but the ultrasound really worried doctors. So up until can
you even imagine that, up until twenty four weeks weeks,
the doctors discussed terminating the pregnancy over the baby. So,

(17:08):
first of all, that's ridiculous that it just continued and
continued and continued, because my thing is like, let the
mom do what the mom's gonna do, right, But it's like, also,
if you bring this up once and the mom's like, no, no,
and you give her that information to look over, it's like,
who are you to continue to do this if she
isn't fucking know leave it? Yeah, she knows, she knows,

(17:32):
and you tell her from the beginning, you say, look,
you have this option up until this amount of time,
at this amount of weeks, we are no longer that
option is no longer available, and like that's it, Like
you don't need to remind her. She fucking knows obviously,
Like she's not going to fucking forget that option. Yeah,

(17:53):
And I wonder, like I mean, from the doctor's standpoint
or like medical standpoint, I wonder the statistics on how
many children are born with LAD or other things that
it's to give up. But I just mean in general,
like how many times these medical professionals have to see
some someone probably give birth and then that child is

(18:16):
not taken care of the way that they need to be.
So it's like I can understand it once to inform
and give the information. It's your duty as a doctor
to make sure they understand the risks involved and make
sure that as because they're going to be the caretaker
for this child, they understand that, right, this may not
be a normal life. It's gonna take it's gonna take more,

(18:37):
you know, it's gonna be more of a challenge. And
then also with with you know, obviously Madison has has
it herself, but she, you know, from what I understand,
hers was not so severe, so you know, she she
had a quote unquote normal childhood, so like, you know,
but she understands like, Okay, this is what the risk is, right,

(18:58):
But yeah, like I I agree, I'm like fucking lay off, right. Yeah.
So when their first child, Riker, was born, he was
missing his left arm and was later diagnosed with hearing loss,
which is another you know thing that happens with lad
and then they have their second son, Rhett, who was

(19:19):
also born with differences in both arms and was born
completely deaf. So two months after their second son, Rhet's birth,
the weight of it all hit Madison and she was
driving home and this is always when it fucking happens, right.
It was just a quiet drive home, babies in the backseat,
and it just hit her. It all came crashing down,

(19:40):
she said. She called Kane. She was just bawling on
the freeway. She's just like, oh my god, just like
the weight of it. It's always in those quiet moments. Yeah,
for me, I just remember a lot of the times
it was like those late night feedings and it just
fucking whoa, the weight of it all just coming down.
And she said, you know, she calls her her husband,

(20:02):
her partner, this person that she's going through all of
this with, and she told him, you know, she's having
a hard time, and she said she remembers he said,
whatever is meant to be has already been written. It
is what it is, and we just have to keep
moving forward. Mmmm. That's a good supportive man right there,

(20:24):
right there, shout And that's exactly what I fucking wrote.
Shout out to the supportive partner right there, and the
fact that he, like he said, it's already been written.
It is, it is what it is. It is what
it is. That's what my dad. My dad is like
for as long as I can remember, that's his thing.
It is what it is. And you just you have
to move forward, you do, and you can acknowledge that

(20:46):
this fucking sucks. It is it, it is what it is.
But like we it doesn't change it. We got to
keep going, right. So these that's what that's what they did.
They decided, you know, this is what we have to do.
And these parents just they're killing it. They are, so
they sided. They decided that's what we got to do.

(21:07):
And they decided to focus on what the boys can
do rather than they couldn't, absolutely rather than what they couldn't.
And over the years they watched how Riker, who's now eleven,
could learn to use his feet to just do everything
from riding, eating, even playing video games. Ultimately, like just
like any eleven year old friend right in the room

(21:32):
on their Yeah. So it's ultimately what inspired them to
share on social media what these boys can do. And
so what Madison said, is it really all started when
Riker said he actually was the one that said, hey, mom,
tonight we should make a video of me playing my

(21:54):
video games so I can show everyone how I do
it with his fee. Yeah, and so this is what
went viral. This is what went absolutely viral. And as
for the future, Madison says the family plans to continue
to share their journey online. And she said, of course
there's the haters out there. Yeah, and there's obviously the

(22:15):
haters out there, but she said, ever since they've really
started sharing these these differences and that there's just you know,
you can overcome. There's just overwhelming love and support that's
made a completely lasting impact on them, and there's just
thousands and thousands of amazing comments. And she said that
she reads the page that they set up for Riker

(22:38):
and how he's able to do all these things, you know,
despite his differences, and just overcome and she said she's
just bawling because there's just so many good humans in
the world and even the life can feel really heavy
and hard sometimes, Yeah, you read that, you know, the

(22:59):
amazing thing that people can say and you just think, damn,
I have just the most incredible kid and people see that,
and it's just it's just this overwhelming feeling of support
and I think it's what I love about this. It
just really is a full solcral moment because you you know,
she's sitting and thinking, I have the most amazing kid,

(23:21):
and she does. She does clearly have. If you've seen
these videos, so I watched some of them and he's
just like, hell, yeah, I watched me with my video. Yeah,
you know, it's just like it is. It's it's really amazing.
But you again have to give the shout out because
like the part of the reason that he is so

(23:42):
amazing is because he has this support system that again
focuses on everything he can do. Yes, yeah, and that
definitely comes from his parents being like, we're gonna we're
gonna support you and we're gonna focus on everything you
can do, and he takes that and he rolls with it,
and it's just like this, it's a it's just a
supportive circle, and it's just it's it's amazing to the

(24:06):
power of social media. We know how negative obviously social
media can be. But the other thing too is that
when you get to see I mean there's obviously there's
more people out there with lad and there's when you
get to see that there's little boys out there eleven
years old playing their video games just like anybody else.

(24:28):
When you know another five year old, a six year old,
a three year old is out there with the same thing,
with the same you know, missing an arm, you know,
anything like that, and they see this, they're also going
to be inspired exactly. That's I was gonna say that,
that's the biggest thing that I am so grateful when

(24:49):
it comes to like social media and you were talking
about the haters and stuff, it's like, you know, you
really do have to look the other way with the
people these keyboards and stuff, because they're awful, a cruel
all of that, but you're right, like the inspiration that
is going to happen for children and parents because oh,

(25:09):
it's I mean even seeing her in that weak moment
or that it's it's not a moment of weakness, it's
just a moment of that truly, that's life and you
you're moving on and you had just support that you
needed exactly, And it's like to know that there are
kids who are going to see that and they're going
to feel so capable and seeing in that moment, but

(25:30):
they're also the parents who are going to see it
and go, look at how I could have approached things
maybe differently, or like been supportive or helped in this way.
And that's just an amazing, amazing thing. I got goosebums
all over my body, like fifteen times. I love that.
Oh that's incredible. I gotta go see these these uh

(25:53):
oh it's videos. Yeah, I'll send you. I'll send you
and we'll maybe we'll even we'll link some of them
in the in the post we do for this one,
because it's it's and it's just like it's all smiles,
it's so cute, and it's just like it's just a kid.
It's you know what I mean. It's it's the best. Yeah,
an eleven year old live and his wife. Yeah, exactly.

(26:18):
It's funny because like in my notes, I was like,
I wrote down, let's just start off crying. Okay, we're
going to don check and then hit me with that.
And I've already been to her and up the entire time,
So thank you so for my good I'm gonna start
off with a quote from a mom. This is the
quote she said, I know you will do this for

(26:39):
me but can you raise nine kids? Can you take
my babies, all of them and keep them together? I said,
I don't know. I have to pray about this. I
have to talk to my husband about this. We discussed
it as a family, and my kids were the first
to say yes. They had gotten really close with that's kids.
My husband was like a deer and he lights, but

(27:00):
he knew this is what we had to do. Beth
leap Kep and Stephanie Coley from Virginia were friends for years.
They went to school together, they grew up together, and
then the typical they had moved away for a little
bit and then they moved back. They lived in the
same area. When they moved back, still had that close
friendship and they were raising kids and living life together.

(27:24):
Beth ended up being diagnosed with breast cancer that ultimately
ended up taking her life, but before that, she had
asked her friend if she would be able to take
and keep all of her six kids together. So Beth
had six children of her own and her friend, Stephanie

(27:45):
had three of her own. So to know that that
would be an insane amount of kids. Let me say
just an insane amount of kids. But it's the fact
like even in that quote saying like are you sure
you can do this? Because it's like she knew she
wanted to keep her kids together. Yeah, and plus you

(28:06):
know the system. I mean, we talk a lot about
how the system is broken and the system. There's so
much good that comes out of it, but there's so
much that it's like, you know, are they gonna go
to loves odds? Are they gonna be together? Exactly? Together?
Not good? Yeah, And that's exactly what Stephanie Coley said
she had to make happen. So her and her husband
and their kids, who were the first to say yes,

(28:27):
said absolutely, we're going to do this, and they they
did just that. So they actually had two homes that
were already kind of like set up with paperwork to
take them when Beth had passed, and they on July nineteenth,
they went and went straight to court. They got full

(28:48):
custody of Beth's six children. Now they have kids ranging
from fifteen to two years old in their house. It's
that's a lot because I was just like, whoa in
the chaos? Yeah. And in the article she she talks
about Stephanie, she talks about with one of the report

(29:08):
or the reporter saying that she's like, there was actually
a time and my husband talked about not wanting kids
and that they were never going to have kids. So like,
going from you know, three of your own after saying
you weren't having kids too, having nine is a superpower,
oh you know. And it's just it's such a beautiful thing.

(29:28):
It's so sad for Beth, for these children who had
to experience that, but the fact that they get to
be together because of her friend is incredible. So I
loved it. It's like so many things hate you in
that because like, as a mom, obviously it's like super
important to keep your kids together. But the other thing

(29:51):
too is like the fact that like she trusted her
friend yeah so much that like you know, like if
I can't do it, you know you can. Yeah, yeah,
it's amazing. And then her friend being like, well I

(30:11):
have to do this because also, like I always think
about that, and it's like something we hear a lot
of times too when we're covering cases when friends step up,
family steps up. It's like, of course I'm going to
take them on as my own because obviously not just
because like they don't have anyone, but because this is
the only thing I have left of them? Yeah, I

(30:32):
want that, and you know, like and so, oh my god,
that's just absolutely and I mean you mentioning the what
they have left. It's it's like I think about even
if I was to think of if something ever happened
to me, you know, my parents are older, and would
they say yes, of course they would, you know what
I mean. Right, But so this specific, you know situation,

(30:57):
the mom who ended up passing, she had the six kids,
and she had two different fathers that were the children's
father too, and one of them went to court and
was in full support, and they don't elaborate on all
of the details. But I'm just curious, as like, you know,
that to me shows that you're supporting because he wasn't

(31:19):
saying anything against it. And then the other dad didn't
even show up, so yeah, you know, maybe he's just absent.
He's not a part of their lives whatsoever. Right, And
maybe this other father was like maybe he is a part,
but it's like he knows this is what's in their
best interest, and it's like he probably didn't want to
separate his kids from the other kids as well. Yeah, exactly,

(31:40):
that's a fucking man right there. Right, that's a man.
I mean that, And I'm sure in that situation too,
he's like, I mean, hopefully he knows. Like, look, I
can co parent with them too, Like I can come
pick up I hope some of my kids on the
weekends or do whatever, come see them too, Like, I'm
not going to take them away from their siblings, who

(32:00):
like the same way. That's the only piece of their
mom that they have left is their siblings. I'm not
going to take them away from that. Like that's yeah,
shout out, that's that's just a good decision right there.
One other thing in the article that I thought was
absolutely beautiful and hilarious intertwined is the fact that one

(32:21):
of the conversations that Stephanie said that she had with
Beth was the fact that Beth was like a girly
girl and her girls always had their hair done and
braids and bows, and yes, Stephanie because she did. She said,
you don't be doing that to your kids. And I

(32:41):
don't know if maybe she had boys or girls, but
she's like, listen, I have worked so hard to take
care of that, and I need you to keep this up.
You need to take some classes you need to start
going on YouTube. Yeah, so I'm sure. I mean, I'm
only from all of this. Can only know that Stee

(33:04):
for stephanieeds to take some for that is so cute.
You know that that is cute. You know that they
were best friends when she's like, girl, you better have
a real talk right now. I love it. I love that.
That's so much. Oh my god, I love that. I

(33:25):
know me too. I love all the goods in the world.
Let's talk. Let's keep it going with some badass miss
in the world. Let's let's keep it going. I mean,
both of my good moms we talked about are bad
asses to I mean, for real, for this one, this
one is all like this is again like you could
swip slip swap my my good and my bad ass.

(33:46):
So here's the headline of my My, my badass. Mother
wins sixty two mile ultra marathon while breastfeeding six month
old baby and starting thirty minutes after rivals. So I'm

(34:08):
just gonna read that headline again because there's a lot
happening in it. Yeah, mother wins sixty two miles. Sixty
two miles. I don't think I've walked sixty two miles
in my lifetime. Okay, okay, sixty two mile ultra mal marathon. Now,
let me just explain to you an ultra marathon is.
It is literally called an ultra marathon because the trail

(34:32):
is a fucking mountain, Like, it's literally mountainous terrain. Ultra
mail marathon while breastfeeding her six month old baby. Okay,
six months, she is six months postpartum. You know what
I was doing, six months postpartum, still leaning on my
stroller to try to walk down the fucking street. Okay,

(34:53):
we are not the same. We are not the same.
Starting thirty minutes she wins, starting thirty minutes after rival.
So apparently I didn't know this because I don't run races.
I don't like, don't even win against my five year
old in races. Thirty minutes after, right, So apparently with
these marathons, like if you have like a rating, you

(35:14):
get to start at a certain point, I guess, but
if you if you're I don't know. I get into
it a little bit during the thing. But thirty minutes
after like the first people started, that's she and she
still beat them. Okay, Okay, here we go. Stephanie, another
bad ass fucking Stephanie. Okay, Stephanie Case was breastfeeding her

(35:37):
six month old baby when she won a sixty two
mile ultra marathon last weekend. So despite starting, like I said,
thirty minutes after the other participants and stopping to breastfeed
her daughter, Pepper, cutest name ever. Oh, I love it,
her six month old baby. You just know she's a badass.

(35:57):
First of all, marathon. I'm a badass. Sorry, not a
badass to do an ultra marathons, but if you name
your daughter Pepper, badass, it's so cute. I love that.
So this Canadian trail runner won the Ultra Trail Snowdonia
Snowdonia one hundred k. I'm sorry, one hundred k sounds

(36:18):
so much cooler than sixty two miles, but still one
hundred k. So so the badass mom was breastfeeding, eating
a watermelon. Gotta stay hydrated mid trail or mid race.
So her daughter was born six months ago. That's so crazy.
And she had taken and this was her first race, so,

(36:39):
oh my god, this I forgot this part. So she
had taken a three year break from racing, so she
had been a marathoner racer, which already good for you.
I've got one five K in my life and I
still had to walk halfway through it. I've done two
a half, Maria, I've done numerous five k's, but I'm

(37:02):
like thirteen miles, which I have a story after you're done.
I'm like, that's way different than sixty two and through
a mountain like I saw I that, sure, this one
is literally through mountains, Like this is crazy. So she
took three years off from racing mountains because she was

(37:24):
going through a fertility journey, which had included miscarriages, multiple
rounds of IVF. She ultimately was pregnant, gave birth to
little Pepper, and then no, and then this lady was like,
I'm gonna jump back in right six months later, is

(37:48):
back in her first race after three years off, and
because she had taken so much time off, she doesn't
have like her rating anymore. So she starts thirty minutes
byd like the beginners, like she doesn't have like the beginners,
So then she starts thirty minutes. She's taking multiple breaks
throughout to breastfeed Pepper, and she's going through mountains and

(38:13):
then she fucking wins it absolutely Like my I feel
like I'm speechless, which is so not normal. I mean,
this is absolutely I'm just like reading it and it's
so funny because it's just like the first part of
the headline, mother wins sixty two mile ultra marathon. That
could have been enough? Why breastfeeding check could have been enough?

(38:37):
Her six month old baby. So you're telling me she
gave birth six months ago, check check starting thirty minutes baby. Yeah,
but six month old baby isn't a eight pound little
thing you're telling me. You're just like, I'm sorry. If
I was running, I would not want to stop and
hold jack shit, Like I just feel like, heaven, what
the hell. I'll have to send you the picture too

(38:59):
of her hold on the Let me see if I
can hold on. Let me see if I can. That's
absolutely incredible. While you're pulling that up, I find it.
I'll have to find the Instagram and send it to you.
But like, it's so I mean, it was, it was
absolutely amazing. So yes, please now please share me your story,
because I have all of one race story. It's Heather

(39:19):
tried to run a five k with a slightly uphill
for part of it and took had to walk part
of it the rest because that's it. Well, first of all,
I'm five k tomorrow and I will be walking the
entire thing because your girl will be chunky right now.
But so what I was gonna say is I actually

(39:41):
just worked race. So for anyone who listens to this podcast,
I actually manage a race company here. Girl. Yeah. So
I put on five K, ten K, fifteen and half marathons,
and so we had we have like I want to say,
like four thirteen half marathoners run on Saturday, and they started,

(40:05):
so they started eight thirty and then all of a sudden,
this girl comes up at like eight thirty seven or
something and she's like, sorry, I'm late. The address took
me somewhere else. She was from out of town, so
she was late, and I was like, okay, no worries,
we'll get you there, and then i'll like mark the
time so that you know it doesn't adjust, like I'll
correct it so that your time is accurate to what
you actually run today. And she's like okay. I was like,

(40:29):
what are you doing? Half marathon? Blah blah blah. So
I want to say she started like nine minutes behind
the rest of them, and it was half marathons thirteen
miles thirteen point one and she lapped like eight of
the other half marathoners.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
She came in first for the whole thing, and the
guy who was in the lead the entire time that
last lap, his mom was like, is that girl gonna
like she got so frustrated with the fact that this
year I was approaching him.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Well, she's approaching him and she's just running. She's just running,
and the mom goes over and she's like telling her son.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Like, run faster, run faster, and she did not want
him to get past, but it confused him, so then
he went off trail and started running towards her, and
I was like, no, go back, So then he runs back.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
So at the end of it, he's like, Mom, why
do you like mess me up? But she was just
like that down mom that was like trying to like
hype her kid up, but like wrong way of doing it.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god, yeah, she
was abuse you. She's like crazy, literally that one, like
that one she waltz is up late. She's like literally

(41:39):
like hung over from the night before. It's like I'm
here for the half marathon. And I will say it
was very clear. It looked like this girl didn't drink
a thing in her life. Like she looked like the
most physically fit mentally there human there's ever been walking
up and laps people. That's the most apting. I was like,
holy heck man like, and she just it was crazy

(42:01):
to watch her because the more I work the races,
like you see all the different type of runners, and
she just had the most consistent pace I've ever seen.
Like a lot of people they'll start strong, then they'll
go a little slower in the middle, and then they'll
finish strong type thing, or maybe they try to keep
their pace the whole time whatever, but usually that at
the end you're like, go, no, this girl, she was

(42:24):
just steady pace the whole time. And when she turned
the corner to like finish, there's like a loop that
you finish and you it's kind of uphill and you curve.
This girl with sprint and I was like, I had football.
She was like, if I'm gonna cry for this girl
I've never seen in my life before right now, Ye, dude,
I need to be a runner. Yeah, she's a runner.
Io track star. I got this dog like what almost

(42:48):
few months ago now, and I and I said I
was gonna start running with her. I haven't. Yeah, yeah,
I had mine three years and I haven't. Okay, are
you ready for mine? I there's people like yours that

(43:10):
run sixty two mile ultra marathon, crazy, breastfeeding six month
old babies and coming in first. And then there's moms
like mine that punch mountain lions and faces. So do
you know this story? No? But they would be friends, right, absolutely? So.

(43:32):
I listen part of me when I was reading this
because I feel like I've seen this story, and I'm like,
have I covered this? Like I feel like if I'm
gonna repeat one, it's going to be a badass one.
Because even the ones that I when I'm searching for
my articles, I like, come across ones that I know
I've heard or I've told, and I'm just like, let
me reread it, because yes, I love this person. Yeah,

(43:54):
but this one specifically is a mom who saved her
son's life by punching a mountain lion. Yeah in the face.
Love it. So. A five year old little boy was
playing in Calabasas, California, right up the street and mountain
lion came out and attacked this young boy he was

(44:18):
dragging the child away, maybe forty five yards. He had
already started dragging this child when the mother ran out
and repeatedly punched and striked the mountain lion until it
finally released. Hell yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm like you.

(44:39):
You hear this unimaginable scream happened from your child, and
you have nothing but your bare hands and the ultimately
child and just like your fucking raw, just like motherly,
like oh I it's like bear my veins now, like

(45:02):
it's like yeah. So she ended up having to take
her son to the hospital, where he was treated for
injuries to his head, his neck, his upper torso. But
he was saved by his mom. And I want to
read the last paragraph of the art article because I
feel like it's it's important to share this part as well.

(45:22):
But I hike a lot. I go out and you
know I'm on a mountain. Well, I can't even say that.
Let me take that back. I don't hike a lot anymore,
but I used to, and I try, and I want
you still, you still trail it up. I try, but
not as much as I want. But you get mountain
lions though, or you like bear you can bears more? Okay, yeah,

(45:47):
definitely bears all over here. I haven't seen any out here,
but I mean there's sightings all the time. Bear sees me.
They don't want nothing to do with me. I'll be like,
it's up Bear, No, I wouldn't. I'm not that person.
But the point of this, at the end of the article,
they talk about how these attacks are very rare and
that in California and this this is like I don't

(46:11):
remember exactly when this happened, this occurrence, this attack, but
since in California, since twenty nineteen, we've actually only spotted
four mountain lions in California, so it's not a common thing.
And I wanted to add that because I feel like
all of our California listeners are like, I'm never going

(46:33):
outside again, you know, And it's like, first of all,
go outside, just be ready to punch a mountain lion
in the face. But it is rare. I mean, there's
more than four. I'm gonna say that with my whole chest,
because yeah, you're saying you only spot those, but it's
like even into hatchbee stuff like that, it's like, you
know for a fact, like you hear them on your
roof and stuff. It's not the same mountain. I don't know,

(46:55):
but you know, ultimately it comes down to the fact
that I'm fortunately for at least one of those mountain lions.
They crossed paths with a mother who was more than
ready to throw hands hails. That's how the article ended
at all. Was like she was ready to throw You're
in California to throw hands, fucking mountain lion. I was like,

(47:18):
that is amazing. You know, I mean, no hate towards
a Calabasas woman because I mean, I mean, the majority
of my family is women is not born and born
and raised in Calabasas. Though from La. She like she probably,
like you know, made some money and moved over to Calabasas.

(47:40):
And you know that that article is also not from
Calabasas because no one from Calabasas is saying throw hands.
Like maybe maybe nowadays they are, I don't know, but
I mean, whether you're a mom from Calabasas or a
mom from La or a mom from London, England, China, wherever,
listen to them hands you're gonna throw hands for your child,
you will with a mountain line. So that to me,

(48:03):
that's awesome. Shout out, it's awesome to that mother. Yep,
that's freaking crazy. That is crazy. It does mean so
like where I live, y'all is I mean Calabasis is
what probably twenty minutes that way takes me? How much?
How long to get to your your bathtaf. I was

(48:23):
gonna say, I can't ever keep up with what's actually
like distance wise, because I'm like, well, it takes two hours.
We can't go by distance wise in La. It's like
minutes wise depending on traffic. But it'll be twenty minutes.
Why is it say two miles? I know, seriously, because well,

(48:45):
and this is the thing right now because of the
heat and around fire season and because of the summer,
the wildlife is out because they're looking for water. And
so we do have mountains and Calabasi it does have
the mountains, and we have mountains here in the valley.
And I actually haven't seen mountain lions, but I've seen

(49:08):
my fair share of coyotes. Literally, I have seen coyotes
up and down my street, one hanging out in my
freaking neighbors yard. Literally walked out my front yard and
saw a coyote just laying down, chilling, in my neighbor's grass. Yeah,
not crazy twenty feet from me. Do you see the
videos of the people that walk up to the coyotes

(49:30):
and they're like, hi, dog, and they start up petting
the kyo crazy Like I saw one where a lady
she was like, I really should start wearing my glasses
because she led a coyote into her house. It's thinking,
Oh my gosh, that is like, it's crazy. It can
be crazy around here, and like the Calabassis area anywhere
in the valley because you're literally surrounded by like mountainous area,

(49:54):
so the valleys these like, yeah, it's the valley. So
that's a friend crazy, y'all. The I'll throw hands, throw hands, hands,
all right, all right? Crime, Okay, So I'm gonna read this.
I love when you already laugh. Okay. The headline Aruna

(50:20):
Mom Rebecca Lee John's avoids jail over horsefloat theft, random reasons.
Mom's horse float heist unraveled. So okay, okay. Rebecca Lee John's,

(50:40):
the thirty six year old mother of three from Queensland,
pled guilty to the fraud and unlawful possession of a
motor vehicle, among other charges, after stealing a horse float.
She was eventually the uh, she was eventually suspended of
the six month jail sentence. So when I first was
reading about this, I was so confused, And the more

(51:03):
I kept reading, I was just like even more confused
because I was like a horse float, because I'm thinking,
like a float like Rose parade. Yeah, okay, And I'm
just like, why would this lady steal afloat that was
built like a horse, Like maybe there's like and this

(51:26):
is happening in Australia, So I'm like, maybe there's horse races,
like an Australian version of the Derby, and they do
a parade and there's a float that was built like
a horse. Why did she still want though? Like?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Why?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Obviously it's gonna you're what are you gonna do? Ride
it around town? You're obviously gonna get caught. But do
you know what a horse float is? No, That's what
I'm saying. And I thought that was gonna be the
exact same direction you were going in for sure. And
I live in the horseland so I should know this.

(52:08):
In Australia they call it a horse float, but do
you know what it is called in America? Oh gosh,
now I'm like, is this the most obvious? No, I don't.
I know it's a horse trailer. Oh well, I totally
thought this was going somewhere way better than hearing the
word trailer. I know. I was so excited when I

(52:30):
found the horse floats the rest of my life, right,
because like I thought this was gonna go in like
a super cool direction, like she was stealing this horse float, yeah,
because like it was like a rival float for like right, yeah,
Like I thought it was gonna go in this super cool,
crazy direction because like there were rivals in the Kentucky

(52:54):
the Australian Kentucky Derby Race or something. I don't know.
It's just a fucking trailer, yes, Why did she steal it? So?
It's so because I just keep like picturing like a
float with like horse on it. Like I first thing

(53:18):
I was thinking about when you see you're saying, Trojan,
you're way better than me. The first thing I was
thinking of when you said horse float is like in
our grocery store, they have one of those where you
put the quarter in and you like ride it. And
I'm like, is that what she was trying to steal?
Like taking and actually ours don't take quarters. It's a
penny and all the patrons put pennies on this little

(53:40):
horse thing and our mire. So it's pretty great. Paradise. No,
you have to watch the show Paradise. So we just
watched it and it's actually pretty cool because they filmed
a lot of it at Zach's work. Oh my god,
I don't oh shit anyway, horse floats, which I'm also

(54:00):
going to start calling those little horses. Yeah, everything's just
going to trailer. So the reason she sole this is
because it was actually a custom built, like really nice
horse float, and her and her family were actually like

(54:21):
in the business and they were actually getting ready to
go to some equestrian event in Las Vegas, and so
she stole it and actually forged documents like she bought it,
and so I actually was trying to look up like
why so she was either planning on using it or
she was going to try to sell it herself because
there's actually worth a lot of money because it was
custom built. So yeah, so she was just I was

(54:46):
like really excited because I was like, why did she
still have horse float? Like what's going on? And then
I realized and then I like it dawned on me
that like, oh it's just a fucking trailer, damn it. Wah,

(55:08):
my crime has to do a theft as well. Oh
did they steal horse? Nope? Oh man, okay, we're gonna
go ballistic. Did you have? Was there other stuff about it?
That's all there was. That is like like the the
lead up you know to be let down just now

(55:29):
was actually more of a crime than I was literally
taking you through my emotional emotions as I was reading
through this horse floating debacle. Well, you're about to go
on another emotional as is everyone because you know, we've
we've got quite a bit of mama's that listened to

(55:50):
this podcast. Hopefully you guys enjoy these episodes the way
that we do, and you cry with us, and you
laugh with us, and you say, what in the actual
hell with this? Mother of two was arrested for theft
and held in a cell for seven and a half
hours after confiscating her own children's iPads. What Yeah, you

(56:18):
heard me right, She took her children's iPads, The police
came arrested her, and she was in jail in a
cell for seven and a half hours. No, I want
to make this very clear before I get into this.
This article does not provide the ages of the children,

(56:39):
and it only says that the report of the theft
came from a man in his forties. And I'm blown
away because for me, I'm like, it's as I'm reading
this and as we go through this right now, I'm like,
the kids turned her in. The kids were passed. They
called and said, you know, my mom took my stuff.
It has to be a joke. It was not a joke.
So this mother, whose name is Vanessa Brown, she's fifty

(57:01):
years old and a long time well known history teacher
in the area in Surrey, London, was arrested and accused
of theft. The whole situation is bizarre. They that the
police went to her mother's house. She doesn't even live there,
she was visiting. Her mom went to her mother's house
because the iPads pined. They pained the iPads, okay, and

(57:26):
when the mom was like, what in the world's happening
right now, she was arrested for not cooperating. Not sure
exactly what they were doing, because it's not in the article.
It doesn't say like she tried to punch an officer.
I don't know what she did, but it says she
was probably what the fuck are you doing these? What
do you mean iPads? Yeah? I get out of my face, right,
and so they but they don't go into what she

(57:49):
did or didn't do. But she was taken in the
cop car to the jail, was held in the cell
for seven and a half hours. They even wenthether, they
even went to the school, took one of the daughters
out of her class to interview her. And it's like,
what what an absolute waste waste like I yeah, so

(58:19):
and she says just that because in this article, she
ends up saying to the reporter, quote, they were able
to send a police car with police officers to my
children's school. They were able to send another police car
or two to arrest me. I know, people are making
reports of thefts, of assaults and very violent crimes in

(58:40):
and around our neighborhood and they're not getting a response
for days. Who the fuck made the report? And what
kind of pool do they have to be able to
like make that kind of bullshit happen. That is, it
blows my mind. They like this police or should be
fucking sued for I'm resources that is like a blue trash. Yeah, yeah,

(59:05):
for for sure and instantly because it doesn't give it's
it doesn't give all of the information that I need
to know, you know what I mean, because like if
it did, there would be a fucking riot. Like, oh
my god. One of the news sources, one of the
people in the news station was like, if they need
to go and apologize immediately, two hundred. They need to

(59:29):
apologize to her, They need to apologize to the public
for wasting their fucking like like money, they need to like,
oh my god, are you and this actually talking about apologies?
There was actually in this article, there were a few
other actually I'm gonna pull it up, there were a
few other things that they mentioned about the fact that

(59:51):
there was other things that happened. So another one is
like this incident followed the arrest of a couple in
Fordshire over complaints they made about their daughter's primary school.
And so apparently these parents complained about the primary primary
school and they were arrested for complaining. And so in

(01:00:12):
the article it says that this just raises further questions
about the police priorities at this point, and it's just
bananas to me. Yeah, I'm like, there has to be
if there's if like if this community this is this
is what and that would be my question. Is this
community so perfect that this is the only crime that's happening,

(01:00:35):
So this is all the police have to do? Apparently not,
because she's saying that there's literal like assaults happening and
is nothing taken care of. Then what the fuck are
you doing? You know what I mean? What in the world?
What in the actual world? Oh my god, can you imagine?

(01:00:57):
I can't sitting there in this and thinking to yourself
like because like like because like what do you mean,
Like there are so many things you should be doing
right now and this is not one of them. So
mm hmmm. And so it made me think because how

(01:01:17):
you said, like who is this guy? I'm like, is
it an ex boyfriend? That's just like totally being an asshole? Yeah,
I was, Like my thought was like it are her
and the children's father like separated, and he's the one
who bought them the iPads and so he's like, oh,
mom took him. I'm gonna get back here her right now,
Like what's going on? Like what the fuck? Yeah? That

(01:01:40):
is whoever called in the thing about the iPads being
stolen should also be arrested. I agree. I agree. Oh
my gosh that I that's facts right there. It's like
it makes me like there was this video that went
viral a little bit ago where like a kid called
the cop because his mom made his ice cream, and

(01:02:03):
like the cops actually showed up at the house, but
was like like because they had like you know when
you when when someone calls and they're like no, no, no, no,
but and then then they hang up, like usually the
cops have to show up just like to make sure
nothing was weird. And so the cops showed up and
the mom was like, oh no, you guys actually came.
And then so she called her kid forward, and then
the kid was like, I called because my mom made

(01:02:25):
all my ice cream. And it turned into like this
joke like you know, obviously like okay, and then the
mom has to explain like we can't actually call nine
one one if this happens, like blah blah blah. And
then but it turned into like all like you know,
these are like it's good to have positive interactions with police,
and you know, like because lord knows, there's enough negative

(01:02:46):
interactions with police, you know, so you want to build
positive relationships community policing that kind of thing, but like
these like that, but then you have these negative fucking
things happen like no wonder, but it's like, oh my god, yeah,
I it just shocked me. I was like, I try
to put myself in her shoes and be like, how

(01:03:08):
would I have reacted? Especially like it's not like she's
this young mom doing like you know, did she have
a record? Was she someone who they always had something
out for her? So it just like escalated and they
wanted to take her in for something. Sure, that's why
I was like, she's first of all, she's fifty, she's
known in the area and a well respected history too.

(01:03:30):
I'm sorry, but I feel like history is the most
boring shit ever. Not just just kidding, but that is
absolutely I mean that's absolutely bonkers. Like that's absolutely bonkers.
Oh my god, Oh my god. Yeah, what is wrong
with the world? I don't, dude, sane ceiling fucking trojan

(01:03:55):
horses and arresting at least gets a laugh at them.
I mean, this is true, This is true because there
I mean that that question goes for so much what
is wrong with the world, And there's so much, but
at least in this episode, and all of the gb
GBC episodes we get to laugh at we keep its wrong.
Weeah bit light y'all because we need it. Isn't that crazy?

(01:04:20):
That is crazy? All of it is. I I love
this episode. I feel like even the good and the
Badass episodes got my heart feel in all sorts of ways,
so much good. We think, what's wrong about this world,
but there's so much good. There's so much positivity, and
I love that we get to focus on that as well,
because we need more of that. We need more of
the focusing on the good indeed, and the badass and

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or story like that, like a petty crime or a
good or a bad ass that you guys want us
to cover, send it just like dam message, send us
the link. We love to cover them. Yeah, we love
doing these these ones. They're They're fun for us to do, obviously,
and I don't think we'll wait three months to do

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the next one. I know we usually do them a
lot more often, but I'm gonna say we were doing
it like every other month, and then when we were
looking I was like, we even don't one of these sents.
It's crazy. That's crazy, That is crazy, But that's all right,
necessary reminder. Yeah, so I'm gonna do a little bit
of math really quick. So okay, mathing it up, girl,

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Math are real math because they're the same. So when
this episode comes out, you know how many days it
will be until we're at Crime Con. Oh my gosh,
let me take a good guess. Nineteen No sixteen six.
I love it. I can't. Guys, we are both so

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stoked for Crime Con. We're so ready. We are literally
picking out outfits. We are getting shit ready. We are
so staked. It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be asked,
it's gonna be awesome, awesome in so many ways because
it's like being amongst our friends that we have made
along the way is such a beautiful and incredible thing

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for us, and a highlight of of this entire podcasting
journey the people that we have met, Like I cannot
wait to see Kylie from seeing her last time, and
I'm excited for everyone else, like jewels and stuff. I
just saw them, but I cannot wait to see them again.
There's so many people, Danny Chris k so many people.

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And then meeting you get to meet Hope, we both
get to meet for the first time. And hopefully Brandy
because she's still kind of like trying to figure out
her life as she becomes a congresswoman. Just kidding, but
I just into existence. She says, they don't want me
there like that exactly we need to be exactly. But

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she's she's a busy woman. We'll see. But it's like
on top of that, and the people we get to
be around, just the you know, connections that we get
to help, like with Hope and Brandy and with other
meeting other family members that we get to try to
talk to is incredible. And I love to go to
the sessions. There's so many sessions in last year that

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I am so eager for. I remember how much you
loved the session with Mike King who does the cold stuff,
and Mike King, Yeah, and he's gonna be there doing
another session on cold stuff I know I saw, just like,
so yeah, So I am thrilled, eager and sixteen days countdown,
Bobo down down, all right. What I was going to

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say before my brain turned off and on again was
that we have a Patreon and if you guys have
not checked it out yet, we have two different tiers
over there. We have a tier that is the just
ad free and early listening. It's two dollars and twenty
two cents. We did the angel numbers to twenty two,

(01:08:03):
and then we have a second tier that is four
forty four. You get the early in ad free listening,
and then you also get a couple extra things throughout
the month from talk Talks, and then Heather and I
have a segment that we call dead serious but not
really really because there is never anything serious with us.
That's not true, but definitely light hang out. That's our

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hangout session that you just get to kind of beut of.
But if you guys want to check that out, that
is a just one of the ways you can support us.
You definitely do not have to, and if not, feel
free to leave a rating and review because that is
the free and best way that you can help us
grow and be seen by others is to leave a

(01:08:47):
rating and review for us. So if you have not
done that, please take a moment to go and do that.
And if you have done it and it was not
a five star, go fix that. Just kidding, I'm assuming
if you make it this far, it's always a five star.
That's how my head works. It's like if you're here.
You've you at least like us a little bit, you know,

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but maybe you don't, and you're just like every second
you're like, I hate them. I just keep listening because
of how much I hate them. H which would suck.
But here we are, Heather, this was fun. Love these episodes. Yes, ma'am,
we won't talk to you guys, just let now. I'm
just like on a rant because we haven't done this
in a while. If you guys are not tuning into

(01:09:32):
Weird Java in the morning, we do a missing person
segment on Weird Java every other Sunday with Kevin from
Where the Weird Ones Are and David from Down the
Rabbit Hole and now David don't know And you guys
go check that out. They have their whole show that
they do a bunch of stuff. Heather and I are
a little tiny portion of that show, little tiny important

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portion of that show. So go over there. That is
on Where the Weird Ones Are on YouTube. And then
also I got to meet Kevin in person, which was
very awesome. I got to go see him and his kids,
And the next time I see him, I'm going to
see Ali into BBT. So I can't wait. For that baby.
All right, I think I'm done rambling. Rambling. Oh I'll say,

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oh what I said, You're a rambling woman. And lo
and behold you continue low and behold im I was
gonna say. And the number one thing I'm most excited
for is I get to see my amazing co host
in sixteen days. So that's the best ever whenever we
can get in person, a happy camper. Oh and the
last thing is I'm on my way to Tennessee to

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go support the Jennifer and Adriana Wicks. We are going
to be doing a five k in honor of the girls.
Then we are taking it to the front steps of
the courthouse to hold signs and you know, speaking their
name and I cannot wait to be amongst that family.
And they're incredible and these girls are so deserving and

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I love that fan bit. So that's how we were
ending it. We will talk to you guys next Tuesday.
Until then, half the best week. Hopefully you guys are
excited for things. Be a badass, and don't forget to
turn in your library books. All right, talk to you
guys next week. Okay, love you bye.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Okay, I love you bye.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
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