October 3, 2025 • 6 mins
Dan Hoard joined the show to preview the Bengals home game Sunday versus the Lions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Week five for the NFL season, and the Bengals
are in need of retooling. I guess you could say,
of course, losing Joe Burrow, you knew maybe there would
be some turbulence, But this team has barely scored a
touchdown since Jake Browning became the starting quarterback last week,
a twenty eight to three loss at the Broncos that
followed a forty eight ten loss to the Vikings. The
(00:21):
voice of the Bengals, Dan Horde, is here, and Dan,
I'm not nearly as affluent in the NFL as you are,
but I do know one touchdown over two games does
not equal winning very often.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Right, That is accurate? Yeah, you are right about that,
and it's certainly not going to work this week. They've
got a game against the Detroit Lions, the number one
scoring team in the NFL this year and last year.
So the Bengals are not going to win ten to
seven this week. If they're going to pull off the
upset over Detroit, it's going to have to be more
like their win over Jacksonville when the final score was
(00:53):
thirty one to twenty seven. So Jake Browning was the
quarterback for most of that game. That was the game
where Joe Burrow got hurt. Jake played well, the offense
scored a bunch of points. We know it's in there somewhere,
but improvement has to begin upfront. The offensive line has
really struggled the last couple of weeks. Those guys have
to play much better to have a chance against Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, and that really includes maybe getting a bit of
a run game going too. That always helps a quarterback,
and they've not even been able to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Have they big time. They have not topped fifty five
rushing yards in a game this year. They've played four games.
They haven't had a twenty yard run. I think they've
only had a couple that have been for more than ten.
There was slight improvement, at least in terms of efficiency
last week. They averaged four yards per carry against Denver.
That's a decent number, but of course they got so
(01:42):
far behind they couldn't run it by the third and
fourth quarters, so that's got to be good. Their pass
protection has to be much better for Jake Browning to
have a chance. He can't get to like the third
step on his drop with two guys in his face,
which happened a few times on Monday Night against Denver,
and Detroit has a good rush, So we'll see if
the offensive line can make significant improvements in a short
(02:04):
period of time.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, Dan, that's all, of course correct, but not to
take the onus off of the Bengals defense, which gave
up only twenty eight points, but arguably it could have
been more. They allowed twenty nine first downs and five
hundred yards to the Broncos. Those are numbers you don't
see often in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It got ugly in the second half, and that happened
two weeks ago against Minnesota. I will cut the defense
a little bit of slack in saying that I think
they played pretty well early in games, but the offense
is giving them no help whatsoever. You're out there for
a long drive, the offense gets the ball three and out,
you're right back on the field. Against good teams, it's
hard to hold up. I'm not saying the defense has
(02:46):
been good. It hasn't been. But I think they've had
moments and I'm not sure the offense has. The last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, now at two and two, you have to fight panicking. Now,
I mean the last two weeks, the team has been routed.
You've lost your star quarterback, the guy that gives you
a lot of your swagger and your stature. This team
right now has got to be fighting that feeling, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know, it's human nature when things go that badly,
for the finger pointing to start and for some dissension
to set in. I haven't seen it outwardly, and I'm
there in the building almost every day, but I'm sure
when guys are home and talking to their wives and
family members and friends, there's probably some of that. I
think it's impossible not to have some of that. That
(03:32):
can change very quickly. If they played well at home
against Detroit, that stuff goes away. So let's see if
they can look like the team that you know, we
think they can be and should be this week. Being
back at home should help. The offensive line has not
been aided by the fact that they can't communicate in
the environments they've been in the last couple of weeks.
(03:52):
They have played three of their first four games on
the road. They did manage to win in Cleveland. They've
won their only home games so far, so we'll see
if that makes a differ.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, when you look at the Lions. I think it's
fair to say that their defense isn't among the best
in the NFL. They do get after the quarterback, though,
I think that the Bengals probably have some areas they
think they're can attack with this Detroit defense. What do
you see?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think that's true. They do have an excellent pass rush.
I think their secondary has some issues. That would be
the area on defense that I think the Bengals would
try to attack first and foremost. Their best corner is hurt.
Their second best corner hasn't played very well, so I
don't know that he's said technically the second best, but
the guy that's kind of number two on the depth
chart is in danger of being benched. So that's where
(04:38):
you want to attack if you can give Jake Browning time.
Certainly Jamar Chase and t Higgins are going to win
one on one battles against the secondary, but quarterback has
and it has to have enough time to get them
the ball. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I guess the final thing to talk about, Dan, even
though the last two weeks have been not what you want,
has somebody stood out to you that maybe has stepped
up to try and help this offense that maybe you
didn't think would be there or be better on defense.
Who's sort of stepped up their games since Joe Burrow
went out.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, I would say, oddly enough a member of the
offensive line. So Jalen Rivers, the second of two rookies
that were selected this year as offensive lineman, has moved
into the starting lineup. I think that came much faster
than anybody anticipated. We knew that Dylan Fairchild is going
to start at left guard, but now they've got Jalen
Rivers starting at right guard. It was kind of a
mixed bag on Monday night in Denver. I suppose that's
(05:32):
to be expected against their defensive front, but I thought
he got some push in the running game. They need
the offensive lineman to give Chase Brown some holes. I
thought Jalen Rivers did a pretty good job of that.
I like his potential. He's a gigantic guy with long arms.
I think he's got a lot of potential. And we
know the Bengals need to start finding some offensive lineman
they can rely on going forward, So hopefully Jalen Rivers
(05:54):
is one of those guys. As Zach Taylor has already
said said he'll start again this week in the whole
game against the Lions. So I'm hopeful that maybe Jalen
Rippers is going to be a very pleasant surprise going forward.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's the Bengals and Lions today, I should say, Sunday
at four twenty five, and we'll have it for you
right here. Dan Horde will be on the call. Dan
is always thanks for checking in with.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Us, my pleasure. Thanks Dot
It's Week five for the NFL season, and the Bengals
are in need of retooling. I guess you could say,
of course, losing Joe Burrow, you knew maybe there would
be some turbulence, But this team has barely scored a
touchdown since Jake Browning became the starting quarterback last week,
a twenty eight to three loss at the Broncos that
followed a forty eight ten loss to the Vikings. The
(00:21):
voice of the Bengals, Dan Horde, is here, and Dan,
I'm not nearly as affluent in the NFL as you are,
but I do know one touchdown over two games does
not equal winning very often.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Right, That is accurate? Yeah, you are right about that,
and it's certainly not going to work this week. They've
got a game against the Detroit Lions, the number one
scoring team in the NFL this year and last year.
So the Bengals are not going to win ten to
seven this week. If they're going to pull off the
upset over Detroit, it's going to have to be more
like their win over Jacksonville when the final score was
(00:53):
thirty one to twenty seven. So Jake Browning was the
quarterback for most of that game. That was the game
where Joe Burrow got hurt. Jake played well, the offense
scored a bunch of points. We know it's in there somewhere,
but improvement has to begin upfront. The offensive line has
really struggled the last couple of weeks. Those guys have
to play much better to have a chance against Detroit.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, and that really includes maybe getting a bit of
a run game going too. That always helps a quarterback,
and they've not even been able to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Have they big time. They have not topped fifty five
rushing yards in a game this year. They've played four games.
They haven't had a twenty yard run. I think they've
only had a couple that have been for more than ten.
There was slight improvement, at least in terms of efficiency
last week. They averaged four yards per carry against Denver.
That's a decent number, but of course they got so
(01:42):
far behind they couldn't run it by the third and
fourth quarters, so that's got to be good. Their pass
protection has to be much better for Jake Browning to
have a chance. He can't get to like the third
step on his drop with two guys in his face,
which happened a few times on Monday Night against Denver,
and Detroit has a good rush, So we'll see if
the offensive line can make significant improvements in a short
(02:04):
period of time.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, Dan, that's all, of course correct, but not to
take the onus off of the Bengals defense, which gave
up only twenty eight points, but arguably it could have
been more. They allowed twenty nine first downs and five
hundred yards to the Broncos. Those are numbers you don't
see often in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It got ugly in the second half, and that happened
two weeks ago against Minnesota. I will cut the defense
a little bit of slack in saying that I think
they played pretty well early in games, but the offense
is giving them no help whatsoever. You're out there for
a long drive, the offense gets the ball three and out,
you're right back on the field. Against good teams, it's
hard to hold up. I'm not saying the defense has
(02:46):
been good. It hasn't been. But I think they've had
moments and I'm not sure the offense has. The last
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well, now at two and two, you have to fight panicking. Now,
I mean the last two weeks, the team has been routed.
You've lost your star quarterback, the guy that gives you
a lot of your swagger and your stature. This team
right now has got to be fighting that feeling, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know, it's human nature when things go that badly,
for the finger pointing to start and for some dissension
to set in. I haven't seen it outwardly, and I'm
there in the building almost every day, but I'm sure
when guys are home and talking to their wives and
family members and friends, there's probably some of that. I
think it's impossible not to have some of that. That
(03:32):
can change very quickly. If they played well at home
against Detroit, that stuff goes away. So let's see if
they can look like the team that you know, we
think they can be and should be this week. Being
back at home should help. The offensive line has not
been aided by the fact that they can't communicate in
the environments they've been in the last couple of weeks.
(03:52):
They have played three of their first four games on
the road. They did manage to win in Cleveland. They've
won their only home games so far, so we'll see
if that makes a differ.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, when you look at the Lions. I think it's
fair to say that their defense isn't among the best
in the NFL. They do get after the quarterback, though,
I think that the Bengals probably have some areas they
think they're can attack with this Detroit defense. What do
you see?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
I think that's true. They do have an excellent pass rush.
I think their secondary has some issues. That would be
the area on defense that I think the Bengals would
try to attack first and foremost. Their best corner is hurt.
Their second best corner hasn't played very well, so I
don't know that he's said technically the second best, but
the guy that's kind of number two on the depth
chart is in danger of being benched. So that's where
(04:38):
you want to attack if you can give Jake Browning time.
Certainly Jamar Chase and t Higgins are going to win
one on one battles against the secondary, but quarterback has
and it has to have enough time to get them
the ball. Well.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I guess the final thing to talk about, Dan, even
though the last two weeks have been not what you want,
has somebody stood out to you that maybe has stepped
up to try and help this offense that maybe you
didn't think would be there or be better on defense.
Who's sort of stepped up their games since Joe Burrow
went out.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, I would say, oddly enough a member of the
offensive line. So Jalen Rivers, the second of two rookies
that were selected this year as offensive lineman, has moved
into the starting lineup. I think that came much faster
than anybody anticipated. We knew that Dylan Fairchild is going
to start at left guard, but now they've got Jalen
Rivers starting at right guard. It was kind of a
mixed bag on Monday night in Denver. I suppose that's
(05:32):
to be expected against their defensive front, but I thought
he got some push in the running game. They need
the offensive lineman to give Chase Brown some holes. I
thought Jalen Rivers did a pretty good job of that.
I like his potential. He's a gigantic guy with long arms.
I think he's got a lot of potential. And we
know the Bengals need to start finding some offensive lineman
they can rely on going forward, So hopefully Jalen Rivers
(05:54):
is one of those guys. As Zach Taylor has already
said said he'll start again this week in the whole
game against the Lions. So I'm hopeful that maybe Jalen
Rippers is going to be a very pleasant surprise going forward.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That's the Bengals and Lions today, I should say, Sunday
at four twenty five, and we'll have it for you
right here. Dan Horde will be on the call. Dan
is always thanks for checking in with.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Us, my pleasure. Thanks Dot
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