February 26, 2025 • 10 mins
Allen County Sheriff Matt Treglia joined Todd Walker in studio for the Wednesday edition of "Lima's Morning News". They discussed helping the Feds with immigration enforcement, possibly putting body cams on his deputies and staffing the department.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt Tranklia joins us this morning. Sheriff. Good morning, Good morning, Todd,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, good to see you. And of course, always things
happening with the Allen County Sheriff's Department. And you know
recently when I talk with Chief Baker at LPD, and
I think, even with you here, the last couple of times,
your efforts to bolster the ranks have been paying dividends.
You're getting close to I don't know, full employment kind
(00:27):
of here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I wouldn't say we're getting close, but we're starting that direction. Yes,
we just actually had interviews yesterday at the Sheriff's office,
and we're doing interviews today for our cadet program to
start here in April, and it peers that we're going
to end up with at least seven, maybe eight cadets
going through going through the academy this year. So that's
going to definitely by August we should be looking at
(00:50):
some real numbers.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
At this point, it seems just anecdotally that the vibe
has changed a little bit, that there seems to be
more willingness for folks to consider getting into law enforcement.
Are you hearing seeing that?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, I think all of US are starting to see that.
Even the academies that struggled to get last year and
the old administrations struggle to get ten nine people in
an academy, they're talking now they have this academy that
we're getting ready to start with twenty one. They don't
really want to take anymore because it's getting that foal. So, yes,
it looks like we're turning the corner. Young men and
(01:25):
women are wanting to do this job again. And you know,
I don't blame them. They see a president like President
Trump who seemingly has their back and probably does so
it's going to change.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah. Also, recently we would talk with Lped about they
got some drones and Chief was excited about that. He's
kind of a IT and I guess a nerd you
could call him in that way with technology. But you
and I were talking. You guys have drones with the EMA, right,
they have drones.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I'll back up this a little bit. Yeah, I
wouldn't called Chief Baker nerd, but you can't. No, honestly,
I mean, Chief get along just fine, but no, our
SWAT team has some drones that we use often, but
most of our drone work is handled by our EMA,
our EMA director Jared Gessler, and they do a great
(02:16):
job with that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
They all have the license to do it, and when
we need them, they're very handy. I agree.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah. And also the Jared was here last week and
talked about the new bus they have for EMA, and
really that's a command vehicle and you're very familiar with that,
and I guess sort of expand on what that means,
that new bus and how much help that'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, we've just we've came into the future with this
new bus.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
This thing is nice.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's going to make the comfort level for anybody using
this bus in a command situation ten times better than
what we had prior. It's much wider and you can
move around in there, be able to talk, put more
people in there comfortably. And I think it's just going
to be easier to get the job done with this bus.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And the other thing I can imagine you see it
in every walk of life, whether it's a radio studio
or a press box. You know, you can tell the
new ones had all the Internet stuff pre wired, and
the old ones got it, you know, Jerry rigged and
stuff's in a cage running across the ceiling. Was that
kind of you're at the old bus exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
What we're talking about, you know, I mean the old
wood trim and you know, yeah, I got some staples
in it and some wires running along it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But yeah, we don't have this issue anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They've they've purchased a really nice bus and this thing
is available for anyone that needs any kind of emergency
management or you know, obviously op Center.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Allen County Sheriff Matt Treglia with us in studio. Of course,
the the sheriffs around that, all around the country are
now a lot of them sort of having to come
out and declare, I guess how cooperative they're going to
be if if ice comes to town. And you and
I have talked about this, of course, on board with
(04:02):
any possible ice involvement in Hellan County. But that doesn't
mean that there aren't other sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Who go the other way, right, Oh No, I mean,
last week, Todd, I was in a Columbus for our
continued education for Buckeye State Sheriffs Association. There were eighty
four of eighty eight sheriffs at that meeting for three days,
and overwhelmingly the sheriffs are going to accept in their
jail any illegal immigrants that ICE brings a detainer and
(04:32):
brings them with So yeah, overwhelmingly, yes, Obviously there's not
all going to do it, but I think you know,
with the way that President Trump is handling this and
the way things are going, you're going to not want
to hinder it for sure, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And I guess the other thing is some sheriffs that
will cooperate, They do it with the various levels of
vigor and I guess commitment.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Yes, I would agree with that. And like you
and I spoke earlier, you know, they are an elected sheriff.
They're they're elected to uphold the Constitution of the United
States and the constitution of Ohio, and they don't get
to pick and choose what laws they enforce. And I
don't think anyone once they're sheriff picking and choosing the
laws that they get to enforce. They enforce the laws
(05:19):
that the legislators put on the books, and that's their job.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And as of yet, though we've not really seen any
ICE involvement in Lima or Allen County that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And then we've been in talks with them and they're
so they're they're stretched so thin, and they're moving into
the bigger cities and trying to take care of some
of the worst of the worst that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They have right now.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I think once they get that under control, yes,
we're going to see much more activity locally.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, we're talking about Sheriff Matt Triglia. Here are weekly
Allen County segment. You know, another subject that I think
we talked about last time, whether there's been positive movement
or at least the possibility of it, is with the
the legislature and what the Ohio law says about the
footage collected through body cameras worn by officers. And you've
(06:10):
always had, I guess a particular issue with what happens
to that video. Yes, well, what can be done with it?
And that's why you've resisted getting the body cams. But
maybe we're going to finally get a more encompassing, comprehensive law.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You think, Yes, I believe it's coming. It's least we
have least moved the needle adversarial conflict. That's what it
says in the law. If we could just get rid
of that word, this would be a no brainer. And
that's what I'm working towards. I've already spoken with our prosecutor,
Destiny Caldwell. She's on board with me to back me
whatever we want to do with this. But we are
(06:50):
definitely moving in the direction of body cameras, and so
much so that we have already approached the commissioners of
something that we need to start looking at for a
capital fund.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That adversarial What did you say, conflict conflict that? And
what does that mean and how it's structured now and
why should that not be in there?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, it means that if I'm in your house and
there is a picture or a video that you shouldn't
see that of somebody being tied to a bed that
may have possibly been raped, if there was an adversarial
conflict in there, they could get that video. In other words,
if there was a conflict with the officer. Yes, yeah,
(07:30):
And it's just it's so broad. I'd like to I'd
like to bring it down and specify it a little more.
It's not going to be hard to come up with
an adversarial conflict, right, Yeah, I guess, is what I'm saying.
So when I when I don't film that inside your house,
that's the only way I can right now keep it
as completely safe and protect your rights as citizens of
alland counties, which I intend to do.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I guess the other that's part of what a
lot of people don't think of with the body cams.
We think of the obvious situation when you're chasing some
or there's a confrontation in the public realm, But many,
many times an officer or a deputy has made entry
to someone's private abode, and you know, things end up
on that camera that really don't need to be out
(08:14):
in the public, but you don't have a way to
stop them.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, you're exactly right. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's really hard to stop and the only way I
can stop them is not film it inside your home,
which runs into are the guys going to turn it
back on when they leave?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know something. We're going to have a bridge we're
going to have to cross. We're going to have to
figure out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But we're definitely moving towards And another thing is we'll
get the charge for the footage. Not just any Joe
Blow is going to be able to come out and
say I want this, I want that, and we're gonna
have to spend all kinds of time and money, recording,
sending and doing all that for public information. They said,
we're going to get a charge, and that's going to
slow down some of these people that do that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, new provision recently enacted made it to where you know,
you can charge I think what is a seventy five
dollars per per request? Yeah, so instead of what was
for free free? Oh wow, it was free.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So yeah, anyone could just call up and say they
wanted it and we'd have to give it up to them.
And now now it's going to cost you if you
want to keep trying this. But yeah, that's another thing
that makes like I said, move the needle. You know,
like I've always said, I don't care todd if it
happens on the street. If you get involved in something
on the street and body cams film it, anyone could
have saw it. Okay, so anyone should be able to
have that. But it happens in your own home. You
(09:24):
have a right to privacy and that's yours and and
I just I just think that's where I'm gonna die
on the sword.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, hopefully the legislature can get more specificity there to
what you're talking about, and then you get to enter
the world of body cams with the Ally County Sheriff.
Of course you already have them on the cruiser, I
believe right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Of course we've always had him in the cruiser and they're,
like I said, they're filming a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, well, no question about it. But I'm not carrying
that cruiser in the house.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Let's hope not. Some people do drive cruisers in the
house just to not police, but seemingly we've had a
spate of people driving cars into buildings for some reason. Sheriff,
we appreciate you coming in and hope you enjoy the
rest of your Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Hey, thank you, Todd
Matt Tranklia joins us this morning. Sheriff. Good morning, Good morning, Todd,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, good to see you. And of course, always things
happening with the Allen County Sheriff's Department. And you know
recently when I talk with Chief Baker at LPD, and
I think, even with you here, the last couple of times,
your efforts to bolster the ranks have been paying dividends.
You're getting close to I don't know, full employment kind
(00:27):
of here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I wouldn't say we're getting close, but we're starting that direction. Yes,
we just actually had interviews yesterday at the Sheriff's office,
and we're doing interviews today for our cadet program to
start here in April, and it peers that we're going
to end up with at least seven, maybe eight cadets
going through going through the academy this year. So that's
going to definitely by August we should be looking at
(00:50):
some real numbers.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
At this point, it seems just anecdotally that the vibe
has changed a little bit, that there seems to be
more willingness for folks to consider getting into law enforcement.
Are you hearing seeing that?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yes, I think all of US are starting to see that.
Even the academies that struggled to get last year and
the old administrations struggle to get ten nine people in
an academy, they're talking now they have this academy that
we're getting ready to start with twenty one. They don't
really want to take anymore because it's getting that foal. So, yes,
it looks like we're turning the corner. Young men and
(01:25):
women are wanting to do this job again. And you know,
I don't blame them. They see a president like President
Trump who seemingly has their back and probably does so
it's going to change.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah. Also, recently we would talk with Lped about they
got some drones and Chief was excited about that. He's
kind of a IT and I guess a nerd you
could call him in that way with technology. But you
and I were talking. You guys have drones with the EMA, right,
they have drones.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I'll back up this a little bit. Yeah, I
wouldn't called Chief Baker nerd, but you can't. No, honestly,
I mean, Chief get along just fine, but no, our
SWAT team has some drones that we use often, but
most of our drone work is handled by our EMA,
our EMA director Jared Gessler, and they do a great
(02:16):
job with that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
They all have the license to do it, and when
we need them, they're very handy. I agree.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah. And also the Jared was here last week and
talked about the new bus they have for EMA, and
really that's a command vehicle and you're very familiar with that,
and I guess sort of expand on what that means,
that new bus and how much help that'll be.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, we've just we've came into the future with this
new bus.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
This thing is nice.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
It's going to make the comfort level for anybody using
this bus in a command situation ten times better than
what we had prior. It's much wider and you can
move around in there, be able to talk, put more
people in there comfortably. And I think it's just going
to be easier to get the job done with this bus.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And the other thing I can imagine you see it
in every walk of life, whether it's a radio studio
or a press box. You know, you can tell the
new ones had all the Internet stuff pre wired, and
the old ones got it, you know, Jerry rigged and
stuff's in a cage running across the ceiling. Was that
kind of you're at the old bus exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
What we're talking about, you know, I mean the old
wood trim and you know, yeah, I got some staples
in it and some wires running along it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
But yeah, we don't have this issue anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They've they've purchased a really nice bus and this thing
is available for anyone that needs any kind of emergency
management or you know, obviously op Center.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Allen County Sheriff Matt Treglia with us in studio. Of course,
the the sheriffs around that, all around the country are
now a lot of them sort of having to come
out and declare, I guess how cooperative they're going to
be if if ice comes to town. And you and
I have talked about this, of course, on board with
(04:02):
any possible ice involvement in Hellan County. But that doesn't
mean that there aren't other sheriffs.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Who go the other way, right, Oh No, I mean,
last week, Todd, I was in a Columbus for our
continued education for Buckeye State Sheriffs Association. There were eighty
four of eighty eight sheriffs at that meeting for three days,
and overwhelmingly the sheriffs are going to accept in their
jail any illegal immigrants that ICE brings a detainer and
(04:32):
brings them with So yeah, overwhelmingly, yes, Obviously there's not
all going to do it, but I think you know,
with the way that President Trump is handling this and
the way things are going, you're going to not want
to hinder it for sure, right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And I guess the other thing is some sheriffs that
will cooperate, They do it with the various levels of
vigor and I guess commitment.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Right, Yes, I would agree with that. And like you
and I spoke earlier, you know, they are an elected sheriff.
They're they're elected to uphold the Constitution of the United
States and the constitution of Ohio, and they don't get
to pick and choose what laws they enforce. And I
don't think anyone once they're sheriff picking and choosing the
laws that they get to enforce. They enforce the laws
(05:19):
that the legislators put on the books, and that's their job.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And as of yet, though we've not really seen any
ICE involvement in Lima or Allen County that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And then we've been in talks with them and they're
so they're they're stretched so thin, and they're moving into
the bigger cities and trying to take care of some
of the worst of the worst that.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
They have right now.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
And I think once they get that under control, yes,
we're going to see much more activity locally.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Well, we're talking about Sheriff Matt Triglia. Here are weekly
Allen County segment. You know, another subject that I think
we talked about last time, whether there's been positive movement
or at least the possibility of it, is with the
the legislature and what the Ohio law says about the
footage collected through body cameras worn by officers. And you've
(06:10):
always had, I guess a particular issue with what happens
to that video. Yes, well, what can be done with it?
And that's why you've resisted getting the body cams. But
maybe we're going to finally get a more encompassing, comprehensive law.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
You think, Yes, I believe it's coming. It's least we
have least moved the needle adversarial conflict. That's what it
says in the law. If we could just get rid
of that word, this would be a no brainer. And
that's what I'm working towards. I've already spoken with our prosecutor,
Destiny Caldwell. She's on board with me to back me
whatever we want to do with this. But we are
(06:50):
definitely moving in the direction of body cameras, and so
much so that we have already approached the commissioners of
something that we need to start looking at for a
capital fund.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
That adversarial What did you say, conflict conflict that? And
what does that mean and how it's structured now and
why should that not be in there?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well, it means that if I'm in your house and
there is a picture or a video that you shouldn't
see that of somebody being tied to a bed that
may have possibly been raped, if there was an adversarial
conflict in there, they could get that video. In other words,
if there was a conflict with the officer. Yes, yeah,
(07:30):
And it's just it's so broad. I'd like to I'd
like to bring it down and specify it a little more.
It's not going to be hard to come up with
an adversarial conflict, right, Yeah, I guess, is what I'm saying.
So when I when I don't film that inside your house,
that's the only way I can right now keep it
as completely safe and protect your rights as citizens of
alland counties, which I intend to do.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, I guess the other that's part of what a
lot of people don't think of with the body cams.
We think of the obvious situation when you're chasing some
or there's a confrontation in the public realm, But many,
many times an officer or a deputy has made entry
to someone's private abode, and you know, things end up
on that camera that really don't need to be out
(08:14):
in the public, but you don't have a way to
stop them.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, you're exactly right. It's hard.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's really hard to stop and the only way I
can stop them is not film it inside your home,
which runs into are the guys going to turn it
back on when they leave?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You know something. We're going to have a bridge we're
going to have to cross. We're going to have to
figure out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But we're definitely moving towards And another thing is we'll
get the charge for the footage. Not just any Joe
Blow is going to be able to come out and
say I want this, I want that, and we're gonna
have to spend all kinds of time and money, recording,
sending and doing all that for public information. They said,
we're going to get a charge, and that's going to
slow down some of these people that do that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, new provision recently enacted made it to where you know,
you can charge I think what is a seventy five
dollars per per request? Yeah, so instead of what was
for free free? Oh wow, it was free.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So yeah, anyone could just call up and say they
wanted it and we'd have to give it up to them.
And now now it's going to cost you if you
want to keep trying this. But yeah, that's another thing
that makes like I said, move the needle. You know,
like I've always said, I don't care todd if it
happens on the street. If you get involved in something
on the street and body cams film it, anyone could
have saw it. Okay, so anyone should be able to
have that. But it happens in your own home. You
(09:24):
have a right to privacy and that's yours and and
I just I just think that's where I'm gonna die
on the sword.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, hopefully the legislature can get more specificity there to
what you're talking about, and then you get to enter
the world of body cams with the Ally County Sheriff.
Of course you already have them on the cruiser, I
believe right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Of course we've always had him in the cruiser and they're,
like I said, they're filming a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Trust me.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, well, no question about it. But I'm not carrying
that cruiser in the house.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Let's hope not. Some people do drive cruisers in the
house just to not police, but seemingly we've had a
spate of people driving cars into buildings for some reason. Sheriff,
we appreciate you coming in and hope you enjoy the
rest of your Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Hey, thank you, Todd
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