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I know, I just spilled coffee.

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Things are good.

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That's what imaginary boyfriends do, is they spill every Actually,
the imaginery boyfriend never spills anything. I, on the other hand,
spill everything.

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We spilled the tea here on this podcast. That's what
we do. How are you guys? Is what's happening in
the world? In your life?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Man?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
You know, it feels like fall here in southern It
really does feel like fall in southern California today, and
which is which is really nice, although it won't stay
that way because we always get this burst.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Of heat that's this Indian summer that.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Takes us into October, sort of breaks at the end
of October early November, and then we're into whatever that
fall thing is for us.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, but it's really nice this morning.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
It's perfect weather. In New York.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
It's like nice, low seventies sunny. It's just like brilliant, brilliant, realiant.
It won't last, it won't last.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
But we haven't started to turn yet, though, have they.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Just we went on a drive, We went to Harriman
State Park and went on a hike. Got caught in
a torrential rainstorm on our hike, but which was actually
really fun.

Speaker 6 (02:49):
But the LEAs were just.

Speaker 7 (02:51):
Starting, just starting to turn, but just a few. But
it's coming, it's coming.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I always remember when I went to New York to
do into the woods all those years ago. It just
tells you and I only bring this up because it
shows how the weather has changed. I went to New
York in early September to go into rehearsals for that,
and there was when I was during the time I
was there, in the first two weeks of September, everything

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changed and the leaves came off the trees and it
was absolutely gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
But it happened in the first two weeks of September. Yeah,
that doesn't happen anymore.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Just no, it doesn't.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
It doesn't happen to like way into October and September
is usually the best weather of the year. It's like brilliant,
glorious weather. And then sometimes we get these really hot Octobers,
which is weird when I was a kid. This also
goes to show you how much the weather has changed.
When I was a kid, October was cold. Halloween was cold,
like freezing, like you have to wear your coat over

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your costume, which was always a bummer. It hasn't been
like that now for Manyris.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I know, I'm driving in today and I see these clouds,
rolling skies turning black and great, this huge clouds, and
I go, oh my god, there's a fire.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Because.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Which is this time of year?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Something is on fire, because why would there be clouds?

Speaker 6 (04:10):
Interesting.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
I love how we legitimately talk about the weather on
this podcast.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I don't know how we do that, but we were.

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It's a really busy fall for us. I mean, Allison,
your traveling. We've just talked about Indianapolis last week.

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The Greenfield Greenfield.

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We're preparing this event in Steamy Valley that's very demanding
time wise.

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We're traveling in between. There there's a lot going on.

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Little House is a very busy world right now. And
of course the New Theories is wrapping up production in Winnipeg, Canada,
and we're going to be talking more about that as
in the in the months ahead.

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But it's it is.

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Wrapping up production after its first season of eight episodes.
Believe that's what it is, is eight episodes, So you know,
it's exciting. There's going to be a lot more to
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Yeah, no, it's going to be really well.

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Yeah, yeah, well thank you for that.

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Shall we.

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All right? All right?

Speaker 7 (06:19):
We have a classic Olsen episode, classic in terms of
how horrible the Olsens are, and a classic Garvy.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
Episode that is so good. It's such a good one.

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we are back, Dean, take it away.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
What episode are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
All right?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Today's episode number one twenty four in the series, Season six,
episode twelve, Crossed Connections, premiered on December tenth, nineteen seventy nine.
Written by Don Ballock, who was really came into the
series around the same time that I did. He may
have been there for season five as well, but I

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got to know Don quite well as we.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Were getting into season doing.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Season six written by Don Ballock, this one directed by.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Michael I think he had a field day with this Alison.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So many things, so many things, and it's what cross
Connections is.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
A tale crossed wiros and crossed hearts. Walnut Grove enters
the modern age with the arrival of telephone service in
Walnut Grove, which kind of works because this was eight
would be seventy nine telephone seventy six. Yes, they started
putting them in in place, so yes, historically accurate for once.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yes, Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Harry Olson immediately becomes the town's very first and most
dangerous gossip switchboard operator because.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
They let her run this way.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, Harry drops.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Literally everyone, business deals yep, listened, romantic feelings spilled, confessions weaponized. Yes,
Walnut Grove is in chaos and the Garvy's. The Garvy's
are on the verge of divorce.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Moral of the story. Prairie may room.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
For log cabins, outhouses, and one room schoolhouses, but it
is not ready for party lines, call waiting and voicemail.
Adoring for a lot of the Internet stuff people deal
with now.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
With no care.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yes, very much like.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You know Internet being totally this show is still currently
relevant today.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Again, yes, prescient, prescient on the future. It really is.
I'd forgotten i'd seen that.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
We you know, this was obviously during my first season
on the program, so I was watching it very closely,
and I was not in the episode, but I know
I was in my well, I was in my this
was my first season. I was in the seven out
of thirteen part.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Of my deal. So it's just there were episodes I
was not going to be in.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
You weren't You weren't introduced till mid season.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
No, no first episode in serios.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
But you only have seven out of thirteen, seven.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Out of thirteen in each half, and so the way
that works is you get seven out of thirteen and
then when the season is picked up for the remainder
of the season, and it was purchased for the full season,
so we knew that it was going to be you know,
I was going to get thirteen or fourteen episodes something
like that, which I think it was. I think it
was maybe thirteen episodes I did in the first year.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
My god, even you just saying that, Like, really, I
can't when that day comes when someone's like you picked
up into a series you're doing thirteen episodes, is going
to be an amazing day.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I know.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
That's the television is so different today, where you know
your Netflix and all the streams by and they're making five, six,
maybe eight episodes ten on the outside maybe.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Which may be a huge commitment. It's a different it's
a different world. It'll you know.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It forces people to deal or allows people to deal
with material in a very different way.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
The sheer volume of content that was being created.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
In those twenty six episodes Frustrated twenty which is still
crazy for an hour long drama.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I feel very old because we would shoot shows and
like she says, this aired on and this was shot
on shoot day, air day, air day. Now I feel
so silly. I feel very old. People say, so your show,
when is your show on? Would you like it to
be on? If you shot ten episodes straight whatever, and
then you dump them all at once, When is your
show on normally straight?

Speaker 6 (11:11):
And now whenever you want?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well now, of course, with things like Roku, where we
literally are on twenty four hours a day, seven days
a week, the whole the whole series wrote it rolls
by in about four and a half days, I think.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
I mean, it's well that full every year that countdown
to eight days where it's all day, all night, all prairie,
and it's a week. They get through the whole thing,
and of course it's on twenty four to seven, but it's.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
A week long.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can want.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Of I dare you not to go on meds after this?

Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yeah, okay, let's start the so let's get into this.

Speaker 7 (11:53):
The first image is jarring as heck, and the music
is like but and it is a telephone pole going
up line Up Grove. And I have to say, it
is crazy to see this image of like modern day
all of a sudden hitting Walnut Grove.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
It's really a mind bend in my brain? Was it
to you? It's crazy?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
It was such a it was so weird.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, what's what's interesting about this was again with so
many things with serious television. So you saw the poles
that went to the Garby House. So it's all we're
going to talk about that, the polls right there connecting
Ellery's restaurant.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Once the episode was over, all that went away gone.
You didn't see those poles?

Speaker 7 (12:41):
Ye?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Ever again, which.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Board was still there? That sort of was the thing
in a couple episodes, Yes, which board figured. But the
Garbys get rid of their everbody gets nobody wants to
Nobody wants a phone after this episode, nobody wants a phone,
but we.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Do well, So they're getting the phone. They're getting the phone.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
And Carolyn and Ellis walk into the mercantile and they're
admiring the new telephone poll and this that the phone
is going, and they say, it's a foolish waste of money.
I don't even know who I talk to. And it
reminds me when I will never forget when I first
heard about Facebook. Someone told me about Facebook, and I

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remember my reaction was.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Like why who would I?

Speaker 7 (13:23):
And then when Twitter was invented and I first heard
about Twitter, and I was like, who would ever use that?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why?

Speaker 7 (13:28):
Why would I update people? And what's going on in
my life every every day? Like what's the purpose? Not
a clue how this would work? All the telephone you
would think, hey, this is kind of rad I can
talk to my family or call the doctor or anybody.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
People, But why would I want this.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Why would I do that? Right?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Funny moment right up front, would you know when the
foreman comes in and introduces Harriet to the switchboard.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Catherine, this was one of these things.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And I'm sure Alison you know this story. I mean
that you were, you were right there. So Katherine didn't
tell anybody, She didn't rehearse this the way she did.

Speaker 9 (14:11):
It, And it was so wonderfully funny, the way she
went at the speaker, or that the microphone so loudly,
and Michael, the the thing with.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
The with the phone man falling off the pole. That
was not in the scrub.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It was just that she was loud of lady, why
you're yelling?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And so Michael added that as an added cut after
the film, I know.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Why brilliant did it that way? I have the behind
Sid tell you why?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Well? Is it something about her mother? Wasn't it? Her mother?

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Her mom and dad. They would live her dad out
in the country. I remember Catherine was not young Catherine,
you know, she died a few years ago, in her nineties.
So we're talking way back in the day when she
was a little girl, way back the day, and they
were out in the country. So they got a phone,
and it was like this episode, nobody had a fun
They got a phone, and her father was she said,

(15:09):
kind of an idgit and he got the phone and
didn't know what to do it and he went hello,
I would like scream into the phone and her mother, no, no,
that's not you.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Just you just say hello.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You don't like yellow hooy, you don't like scream at
the top of your lungs speak. And so she thought
that was the funniest thing.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
And so that, oh, that grove, that was a lot
of her stuff, grow growdhood, and that was that was
absolutely from her drophood.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
She is a once again a masterclass of comedy in
this episode, and her emotional twists and turns in this
within a particular paragraph right like, is so insanely good.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
I mean, she's just the most incredible act.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
And because all of it is so truthful, even in
her ridiculousness, it's all brounded in absolute Harriet Olsen truth,
which is why you believe it.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
And Allison was so right there through all of this.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, Okay, another favorite favorite movie I.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Had when she is thank God We're rich, and I
actually say amen, yes, yes, amen.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And this is the thing. I love it and I
mentioned this the other day.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
This episode, there's a lot of that where Nelly will
invoke just it's absolute blasphemy. Nellie will invoke religion to
her needs in the most appalling way. There are episodes
where Nelly has actually quoted scripture at Laura while being
like the worst freaking person in the world. It's just

(16:55):
Nellie does something in one episode it's completely vile, and
then goes judge, not lett she be judged. I mean,
it's just like she and Harry would go God.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
That we're rich, and she would say, oh man, that this.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Was well when you go back to the scene that
we started with here where you brought you brought us
into the scene where Caroline and Alison, and after that scene,
after that scene, she says something about it's one thing
to be poor, but it's another thing to talk about

(17:27):
it another thing to.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Tell your friend or to admit it in something.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Poor or ignorant.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yes, and that's why they never amount to anything.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
I have an actual technical slash historical question, so so, uh,
missus Olsen talks about how how much money she's going
to make on this franchise of the telephone can you
explain to me, because I legitimately don't know how did
this work? How did the telephone work? Like, how how
are they making Everyone's talking about how expensive it is.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
I have no idea how it works.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
How they pay because are they mailing a check? Are
they coming down to her and have an account with her?
Because you would have to pay the person who has
had the franchise in town that would be your phone
company before they were a.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Kind of way, So the franchise was the phone come
so there was so you would put it.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, I don't know that this was an accurate telling
of how this worked. I just it worked for the
mythology of the show.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
It works because.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
It's Okay, we're nineteen seventy nine, so it would be
seventy nine, but eighteen seventy nine. Telephones yept eighteen seventy six,
and it was eighteen seventy seven when Holmes Booglary Lawn
Company in Boston.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Put in her switch knew she was going to have
and they put it. So companies like the bank, the
bank has a switchboard.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
They needed it for business, so they installed a switchboard.
So certain businesses initially installed switchboards because they needed them.
To communicate with their people, so regular people weren't getting
them right away, and then you had to pay somebody.
But I would imagine that the operation of the switchboard. Yeah,
there had to be some setup where you had to
pay a fee for these calls from the handling calls.

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How was that administered? Obviously somebody had to come down
there with the money.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
But and how it worked was if someone needed to
make a call, they had to go through an operator
who would then connect.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Well, you had to ring it. You had to ring
the operator.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So I where we grew up, and I've talked about
our family ranch a lot when I was a little boy.
Our telephone at the ranch was a party line on
the road that we were on, so you could if
you picked up the phone and someone else was talking.
I mean there could literally only be one call going
on on this road at one time. And to get

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the operator on the line, you you dialed or something
and it rang at the switchboard and she could connect
you to who you were calling. Now, this ended relatively
early in my youth, but I do remember the and
the switchboard operator was I don't know she It wasn't
the phone company where she was, but she was. So

(20:09):
maybe this is more accurate than than I'm suggesting, because
she was like the switchboard was in the back of
a bar in the in the little town where this
where this was, and the woman was there.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
It was the same woman.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
It was one operator, and she was there seemingly during
business hours all the time.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
And this was how it was.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
So you could have only made a call during business
hours when the operator was there.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, it wasn't like you could get all hours of
the day and night and that, you know, the operator
went home and.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Went had an operator in the evening.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Some most didn't.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
But my dad had a height of the depression.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
He was living on a farm in Saskatchewan, and they
had the thing and he said, yeah, it was like
at the store. It was the store had the phone
thing and it was and he said, and it was totally.
He loved this episode because yes, they had exactly that
woman running the phone, and every time they made a
call got it through, they'd go get off the phone, Gertrude,
we know.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
You're They knew he was listening.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
And there were several old biddies who would get on
the party line listening and they'd.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Go I know you're there. I can hear you, and
I know it's you. Get off the phone. And this
was a running thing.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
So he thought this episode was like superratcher.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
Jeez, that's terrifying. But okay, yeah, good, it really is.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I mean it's trolling now.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
It's like you know, now you're you know, someone is
hacking into your computer much on the party line, just
where they're listening.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
All right, okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
I knew, I you know, I literally purposely didn't look
this up on my own because I knew Alison who's
going to have his.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
You're a good girl.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So we start off right away with people dropping information
that Harriet is going to poach and use to her
advantage media, right right, Yeah, And of course the first
thing that happens is the is the pharmaceutical thing because
Jonathan makes money. But then there's something isn't it the

(22:10):
same stock exactly? So Harriet ends up getting drawn because he.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Says, I heard it was no, actually it's not.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
We thought it was a hard because the banker got
done up just in time.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
It's awful.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Don't buy it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
It's a disaster. Do not buy the.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Stock because right because Doc Baker is also going to get.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
It right, right, right exactly, because he needs to be
woken up in the middle of the night to come
and deliver a baby or whatever.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
But also, like, since when, since when does Jonathan play
the stock market?

Speaker 6 (22:39):
It's so random?

Speaker 7 (22:40):
I mean, I know, it's the story was fabulous, just
not a thing.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
I'm like, did they even have a bank account? I
didn't think most of these farmers even had a bank account.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
But anyway, apparently Jonathan's playing the stock market and doing well.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I wonder how, you know how, I mean a pharmaceutical
stock in maybe maybe, But I just I feel like
we're projecting.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
A little bit into that on the prairie. Huge, yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Look, we're certainly where in American culture we became very
aware culturally of the stock market in the nineteen twenties
because of the explosion of the stock market and buying
on margin and then the depression that resulted, as you know,
from over extension or the crash that happened because of
over extension. I'm not sure that you know, thirty years earlier,

(23:34):
forty years earlier, I'm not sure what kind of stock
mark that would be. Meaning alson.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I mean, not on the prairie Gilded Age, so in
the cities.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
In the cities, it would happen. Now, if you were
to invest in pharmaceuticals in the eighteen seventies, you would
be so rich because look at all the drugs in
the eighteen eighties, there were no fart and all of
a sudden we suddenly had hills and treatments for things.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Doc Baker's world blew up.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
The first vaccine, the first cures for anything, the first
drugs that actually worked that people could buy in the
patent medicines. You'd probably make the whole hell of a
lot of money actually investing in pharmacy in eighteen seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, so yeah, so stock market, let's.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
See eighteen hundred, eighteen seventies, let's say, wasn't a hot I.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Mean, it is bizarre to think that the Gilded Age,
you know, in the cities are happening at the same
exact time of this poverty and isolation out on the part.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
So, I mean, it's what a different world, Okay.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
How everybody's really poor in eighteen seventy four, and the
show starts and that's why the angles are moving on. Yes,
because the panic of eighteen seventy three. There was This
is why the show you know, we premiered them seventy
four during the Big Recession was hit because that's exactly
what was happening in eighteen seventy four is exactly was
a huge recession. The stock market was definitely going on
for one hundred years, but it was notably defined by

(25:01):
the Panic of eighteen seventy three, triggering a severe and
prolonged economic downturn known as the Long Depression or the
Panic of seventy four, huge recession. So the hens while
these financial problems for the angles and moving that was
part of that, it was a global crisis. There was
a stock market crash in Vienna in eighteen seventy three.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
American banking form J Cooking Company failed.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
A huge, huge, huge over expansion after the Civil War, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But yeah, so people probably would have been a little
hesitant to invest in the stock market in the eighteen
but I also worried.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I also wonder about you know, even today in terms
of the number, the percentage of people that are actively
invested in the market, I mean actively is something like
only about ten percent of America is actually personally invested
now through pension funds, through you know that we all.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Have a stake in that.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
But in terms of people who are really putting their
money in the market and working, it is a relatively
small percentage of Americans who are actually invested in the
market directly.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
The stock ticker was invented at the machine eighteen sixty seven,
so totally a thing and communicated. The phones started getting
installed at the New York Stock Exchange in eighteen seventy eight,
increasing market efficiency, continuous trading. So this was all actually
getting invented right about that time. So it was hitting.
First woman owned brokerage firm on Wall Street was in

(26:33):
the eighteen seventies, and so it really wow, blowing up
in the eighteen seventies, but it was also really okay,
there's relevance for this, but there was a huge unemployment
and depression in the eighteen seventies, so people would have
been sketchy, but the rich people were absolutely doing it.
And New York Stock Exchange telephones, ticker machines, all a thing,

(26:55):
all a thing, lady.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Teens, Wow, all happening.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Yeah, Well John was in on it.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
He made from he made.

Speaker 7 (27:04):
Some jetdar on these stocks and he used it to
get a phone in there, like.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Honey, we got WiFi?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
How what?

Speaker 7 (27:15):
It's just so crazy.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
I'm like, where's the electricity coming from? I don't understand.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
But anyway, he surprises Alice with a beautiful phone in
their home. Alice is very thrilled she gets to talk
to her mother.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
She had.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
To get there before.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
She had probably not spoken to her mother in years.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
Oh and and also Sideline, the banker makes his first
call at the bank and he.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Yes, which is a lot of money?

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Yes, okay, and missus Wilson is listening in on all
of this, right, just remember.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
That for later, okay.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
So, and Alice makes her first call and as well, yes,
got it? Uh dangerous, dangerous that the old But anyway, uh,
you know, the ingles come over and there's look seeing
this phone for the first time.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Oh, speaking of phone, someone's phone is ringing.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
I just I just can I call you later?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
A perfect timing.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Okay, So Alice makes her first call to the mother.
They catch up for a minute, and then Alice's mother
shares a surprise. Harold stopped by Alice's face, is shop dropped.

Speaker 6 (28:43):
Yes clever?

Speaker 7 (28:47):
Uh huh clever cover Alice's sharp baby because she covers
up so well.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
I mean, the how would dad did she know to
do that? Before? They were like to make a.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Nonsensical sentence, so everyone thinks that they're talking about something
that they're not talking about, and the mother is like,
you can't talk about this right now, No I can't.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
Yes, the first person that happened is correct. Correct, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
How she's literally the first person in history.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
To do that.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
Yes, I'm so smart.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
I mean, really, for someone that's never talked on the
phone before to be that quick on how to cover
it up, brilliant, She's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Okay, but now we're all left going, who the hell
is Harold dunt dun dum?

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
Also, if you've noticed Garvey's hands, he puts his hands
on Allison's face and they're like twice the size of
her head. You don't realize how big Marilyn is until
his hands are swallowing her face.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
He's enormous, like twice the size of Michael Landon.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, big man, very big, big guy.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And he and he had leaned down considerably since his
playing days in the Wow. Yeah, I mean Merlin was
a very bright, well educated, highly motivated individual.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I mean, Merlin did what Merlin. He made great choices and.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
He was you know, he wouldn't need to do to
take good.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Care of himself. But he was a big man, no
question about it.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Yeah he was also he did he was.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
He was really lovely in this episode, really really good.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
Later on, Alice calls her mother back and we hear
about Harold. Harold Alison's first I know, Alison, you and
I are about to go.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Already, so I'm just hanging back here.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
He has spent eighteen years in prison. It has taken
its toll. He's a very sad, pathetic man. Jonathan does
not know that she was married, even though she was
only married for three weeks. But she never told Jonathan
about this, so this is crazy, crazy to hear.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, there was good reason why, and.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
They keep saying that she doesn't say it was when
I was young. She said I was a little girl,
and then her mother even back set up and said
she was a little girl.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
We're like, how bad is this story?

Speaker 1 (31:34):
How bad is this story gonna get?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
How creepy is this dude?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And the answer is he's a boy like rape it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's a terrible story.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
He was like he was a father figure to her.

Speaker 7 (31:47):
She lost her father when she was poor, and then
he became a father figure.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
So this poor little girl, poor Alms Garvey, grew up
in a boarding house and her.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Mother had all these strange men in.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
The boarding house.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
She said, oh no, they were all gentleanly, they were all.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
His dude was literally guy the boarding house who knew
her when she was a little kid, and then like
groomed her and.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Married that.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Grooming before a word, it was part of the lexico.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
It wasn't.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
It was bad.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
And so and so yet another example of little house
like really stepping into.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Uh uh, that's that's some pretty heavy duty stuff. And
not yes, not unrealistic at all.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean they showed I know, she didn't know any better.
The mother doesn't say any age. She says, well, when
she grew into womanhood, not eighteen. They don't say eighteen.
Basically old enough that they went close enough. And this
guy married really girl.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was bad and he.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Winds up that he's a gambler and a thief and
he went to prison.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
He was no good.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
She didn't know.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
So this bad man who knew this poor woman versus
a child, And it's like, yeah, and it is, and
that's why she wouldn't talk about But that's why she
wouldn't tell him because it was I.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Mean, it's not surprising that she would mean three weeks,
this is not something that's going to be a part
of your life now that all works out in the end,
but you know, that's not surprising that she would make
that choice.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
So good and you try to You're like, I'm gonna
forget this ever happened.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, but don't you think also that she didn't
tell him. And also by the way he finds out,
we'll get to that next. But even when he finds
out and he says like, who else have.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
You been with?

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Like for me, I was like, oh, this is all
about her virginity, Like clearly for him, the issue is
she wasn't a virgin when she was with him. And
also for her that was probably like, I can't tell
Jonathan that I had been with another man before marrying him,
Are you kidding me? So I'm sure that all went
hand in hand with that as well.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Very provocative, I shall say.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
And and and who creates this horrible moment of doubt
within the Garvey family. How does that happen?

Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah, how does that happen? Alice?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Because yes, of course missus sulsen yappity yeppity yeap. But
because there hasn't been enough damage done to the children
in the story, because we must hurt them too. I
for no particular reason, I'm on the porch.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Of the hotel, just hanging out, not doing any work.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
And when Laura and young ahagonizing for new reason, I go, hey,
said your mother tell all your daskles a bar before
and just start.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Going off, running off of the mouth.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
And oh my god, it's so no, it's true.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's she's married to another man. Did she tell him
to tell them? Oh, she hasn't told about And I.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Could just say, hey, I know a secret, or hey,
hey hey, you know you're almost No, I'm like yelling
to the whole boulevard here about his mother.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
And it's the.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Dirt, the dirt, the dirt street, in front.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Of all three people there there, and I just for why,
for what reason? My mother is already broadcasted to people.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
So you're me to be to be horrible.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
You're serving the story.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean, you're just doing you know, Nell. It's just
doing what she needs to do to advance the story.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Rible haters gonna hate.

Speaker 7 (35:33):
We've established the psychopath on this podcast before this is
this is total psychopathy. I wanted to And then, of
course though Andy and Andy and Laura and and.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Albert are like, that's not true, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Talk go home and ask him right home and tell
you tell what tell your father.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Right, what's wrong with me?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
And then I myself on the it was so bad.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Oh my god, I know it's when you. It was
so bad. You know what it reminded me of.

Speaker 7 (36:08):
This is a personal story here. Ready for a little
going off the rail life. Okay, when I was when
I was eight or nine, my grandmother was visiting us.
She she was lived in Minneapolis.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
But she was very sick.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
She was old and she was sick and she was
losing her faculties. And there's a an art piece in
our house of my mother, an art piece of my
mother in my house.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
And I looked up and I went, I wonder who,
you know who who made that for mom?

Speaker 7 (36:38):
And my grandmother went, oh, you know it was that
guy that the person that made it. When she was
married to her first husband, dog Doc john Ya, and
I had no idea my mother was married before at all.
And and I was like, uh okay, Grandma, And I
literally like walk out of the room, like do do do?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Do do?

Speaker 7 (36:58):
And I go to my mother was like putting on
makeup in the bathroom, and I was like, Mom, get
what Grandma just said. Oh, and the devastation, like my
mother was like in the middle of mascara and I
was and she literally froze.

Speaker 6 (37:13):
You just froze, and she was like, wow, it's true.
And I was so devastating. I mean it was devastating.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm sure you were eight years old.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
I was eight.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
I was in second or third grade.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
I was little, little, little, And again, like my mom,
it wasn't like supposed to be this big secret. She
just hadn't told her little two daughters yet, Like it wasn't.
I think she thought like it's gonna come out at
some point. It just you know, she didn't think about it.
And but for me to find out that way was
like and what it does is even as a little kid,

(37:48):
you think you know your parents like inside and out,
you think you know everything about that, it shatters.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Your world completely.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
Now obviously we got over it, and such as, like
and there's no issues whatsoever.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
But I will say this.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
Moment reminded me of that moment, and it is devastating
for sure.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
Why show, Garvey gunns, why Little.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
House in the Parray's popular fifty one freaking years later,
because people do have stories like that. People watch this
episode and go, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Oh yeah, horrible time.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that person really lived this freaking my old morphine addiction.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
You know, I think what so that, Yes, the show
dealt with all these incredible issues, and but did it
in this I think the show was never considered edgy
because it wasn't presented in an edition presented in an
edgy way. They were presented very directly.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You know, but the stuff was all there. Other shows
would have done these things very differently. Lit Laws was
just like everything was open. It's right in your face,
on the out there and people have to deal and
it does.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
So well done so well anyway, it's.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Clear, it's clear what's going on.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
Yeah right, uh so, anyway, Jonathan Garvey goes to missus
Olsen is like, how dare you spread lies?

Speaker 6 (39:19):
And oh god, she's so horrible. Her response is so.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Crazy I mean she just like, no, it's not she
was married to this guy. He did this, he came
out of prison and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
And here's my question about that.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
Why would both Nelly and missus Olsen so brazenly tell
them when it directly puts them in the guilty seat
of like, yeah, I was listening in a conversation because.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
They were telling the truth.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
They were telling, but it makes them guilty of listening
into other course.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
But it's totally because you're not.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
It's not like the money thing. You're not getting anything
out of it, just pissing off the garb. He's like,
what are you getting out of this? Is you just
trashing these gas? Nothing except I know something you don't know,
n or nin or nin you're like a four year old.
They were just horrible. And Catherine also, that's.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Sort of indignant.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
How dare you question me?

Speaker 7 (40:18):
Right, it's right, the indignity of you confronting me.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
I know it's so twisted.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Rights, it's the truth, and it's mine and I get
to do this. I paid for it, I get to
have this right, I get to do this. I think
the Olsons are the device of course, the ulcins are
so useful in the program as the people who you know,
have the stick of dynamite or the gasoline or whatever
and you're just tossing it into the room to see

(40:45):
what's gonna happen next. I mean, you've got to have
that character. This is what I think. The clarity of
the evil is so clear.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
You know, there's no mystery is to where the problem.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Is and it gets right to it like it it gets.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah, which is great.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Here's the other master class.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yes, sorry, go on, no, no, you go ahead.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
I was gonna say this is again.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
This scene was an absolute master class by Catherine McGregor.
Her emotional ups and downs in this scene, because you know,
Jonathan goes after her, acting indignant about it.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Then Nell's coming and being like how dare you? And
she's like she's like, well, well you know.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
He has awesome come back, which is what other idiot
would have married you.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
He leaves the room and then and then she's hurt,
hurt and says he's so.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Yes, you have been a horror story.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
And then wait.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
And then this is like the cherry on the Sunday.

Speaker 7 (41:59):
The phone rang and it snaps her out of it
because she's so excited to listen.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
To someone else's conversation. I mean, it's just so brilliant.

Speaker 7 (42:07):
It's brilliantly written, and the way that she does it
is like comic actor.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
She is a gem. I cannot believe she didn't win.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Every award or no and nowadays and then it's Albert
she would have won. Albert is the one who saves
the day because Albert is a schemer. Albert was on
the streets, Albert's been a criminal. Albert knows how to
go behind the scenes and do terrible, terrible things. He's
converted to being nice because he's with the Ingles, but
he knows what He's like, I have a plant, I

(42:37):
have a plan, and it's a horrendous plan to literally
ruin her financially.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
And Albert's like, yeah, we're gonna do this. This is
what we're gonna do.

Speaker 6 (42:45):
And he SMUs it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
He puts the plan in motion. He knows what to do.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
I think Michael loved, you know, utilizing matt in this
way is the this street smart kid, and I think
he saw I think Michael saw so much of himself
in Matthew and utilized him really really well to do
things exactly this kind of thing, and the character was,

(43:16):
as you said, was so nicely drawn. Wise, you know,
a survivor on the street, always sort of on the come,
trying to figure.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Out how to get by.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
Yeah, kind of a con man, yeah, but for the
greater good.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
But you know, I always had a bit of a
I loved Albert, and I loved Albert and Laura's relationship.

Speaker 6 (43:34):
I loved Albert. Yay Team Albert, but a little.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
Part of me always was a little upset by the
way Laura's character was slightly changed when Albert came on
the scene, because before Albert came on the scene, Laura
was the schemer.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Laura was the smart sort of like that, the.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Savvy one that sort of came up with the idea.
When Albert came on the scene, it all went completely
to him, and Laura was more like his sidekick, like
the what do you mean we can.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Do this right? Like she she wasn't the plotter anymore.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
He was, which I thought was a little not what
Laura's character had been before that sort of Albert took
over that. At the same time, maybe it was intentional,
because this is the time where Melissa Gilbert is starting
to grow up.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
This is that wonky in between.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
Time where she's starting to wear a little eyeliner on
the show, yet still is rocking the braids right like
she's the walking embodiment of Britney Spears. I'm not a girl,
not yet a woman. It's such an in between Britney.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Spears was taken a lot farther in that direction than
ever ever.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yes, yeah, that's an interesting take.

Speaker 7 (44:59):
Yeah, it's like Albert sort of took that role that
Laura used to have.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
When she together.

Speaker 8 (45:06):
Anyway, maybe it doesn't bother anything, but yeah, it's true
he became but he was really good at it.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
She may have said, Wow, this kid's better at this
than I am, because he was an actress.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
Yeah, I can learn a thing or two from this kid, right.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Because he and so they can caught this whole plan
and then basically they just stepped. Albert just sort of
steps back and allows the whole thing to me. Nothing
else needs to be done. He sets this thing in
motion with the stock.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Dealing, and boom they know. She's, like he said, even
where it hurts in the pocket book.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
In her pocket and knows and yeah, very smart.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
And the bank guy even digs the idea because he
can't stand her.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
The bankers like, yea, well.

Speaker 7 (45:50):
Because he knows she listened in on his phone call
to anticipate in this fraud.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yes he could as a banker, he probably could completally
get in trouble. But I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
This, yeah, legal Schmiegel. Okay.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
So Jonathan comes back home and he's like what and
Alice is like, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
I couldn't tell you. He's like, who else have you been?

Speaker 3 (46:13):
She's we jump past that, but yes, that's that was
the end of Act one basically was who else.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Have you been?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Right?

Speaker 7 (46:22):
Yeah, So he's sort of right, and then they come
up with this let's hurt missus Olsen in the pocket Book.
Let me say something though, Pauw is surprisingly chill about
Alice having had this secret right like he's he's talking
to Jonathan Garvey like, well, everyone has secrets. I'm like, well,

(46:42):
this one's this one's a doozy.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
You know he's taking you know, he's he's taking that
high humanistic yes, the high road of we all make
mistakes and it doesn't mean that we're we can't.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Be redeemed and we're not right in not redeemable.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
And I think that is very consistent with the voice
that Charles was always offering in the program. He rarely
maybe he goes again to serve a plot, but here
this was very because this is this is his friend's problem,
and he's trying to help his friend through all.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, he's clearly, and of course Alice loves him, and
he also knows they got a good thing. He's like,
oh my, this guy's an idiot if he gives up
this woman.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
He has totally a good thing with her. She totally
loves him.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
He really loves her. This is dumb. It was three weeks.
Clearly she was a kid. There's probably some horrible story
about the fact that she was a child in this appened.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
So yuck, Why are you.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Meeting her up over this? It's wrong? He knows it's wrong. Like, no,
this is not a thing to die on this hill for.
This is you have a much better thing going on
than this nonsense. And as he says, oh, well, I
didn't realize you were perfect because starting losing my thing.
So I'm still here.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I love Oh god, that was scary. It looks like
it fell down away.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Well the whole perfect.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
About what you about reading the Bible quotes? He said, well,
if if we were perfect, we'd be wearing halos instead
of homespun. Was a big Charles line. Well, we'd all
be wearing halo's instead of homespun, he said at one point,
so his thing of you know who casting the first stone?
You're not perfect, buddy, nobody's perfect. Seriously and really really.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
The split up, who's going to have you?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Dude, get a grip, No, just you need to move
past this one.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, and he's right, he's very smart.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Also other also, other thing that I noticed.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Albert has a savings account. Do the Ingles have a
bank account? When did this happen? I thought they don't
do banks?

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I wonder, Well, I guess he does.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He goes into the bank and he wants to put Yes.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yeah, so right.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
Got he's smart.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
He knows they have interestparent accounts. He knows the bank
is good, he knows the guy. He knows it's not
bad to put money in the bank. Missus Olsen, the
idiot mattress because she's dumb, right, has a bank account, but.

Speaker 7 (49:19):
Not missus Olsen, right, right, exactly, Okay, what's what the
heck happens next?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
So well, so, so Bill sets, So Bill sets the
trap and makes the talks about buying five thousand dollars
worth of stock and Smith Pharma.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And because it's going up and uh.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
And of course Harriet is gleeful running across the street
to her to her mattress to count out the five
grand and go make the predictableable.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And this allows me to be on the switchboard for
a lovely moment with Albert.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
One of my favorite scenes again the mouse house scene for.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
The for the is that what it was? It was
a mouse? I was thinking it was a frog. I
couldn't tell what it was.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
So he has to get me away from the switchboard
for a minute to get on the thing.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Go, yes, it's working, and.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
You're sitting there eating that the candy out of it.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I'm doing that, you are?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I would always set creepy.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
He made it creepy.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
And he comes you did it on purpose? Like how
bad can I make this?

Speaker 1 (50:26):
How bad can I make this?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Okay? And so he's like, oh I brought this thing
and I'm like, what what, stupid child?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Leave Mela here and he puts a.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Live mouse in my hand and I get it and
flip out so hard that I jump up and run
into the wall and do a run into the wall bit,
and for the record, I have to say I'm.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I'm, I'm not actually, which clears the way for Bill
to cancel.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
His You realize it's one of those lovely I love
that scene because in real life, I'm not scared of mice.
I'm the least scared of my. None of that snakes,
mice read, none of it bothers me. And it was
the cutest little mouse they head of the day. No,
it was a cute little mouse. I am totally not
afraid of my I'm like, yes, they did, they would
do in real life, it would do nothing. I was like, oh, awesome,
would you would? So like I had to, I had

(51:12):
to really act and I was like, oh, no, a mouse.
Do you know that I ran a switchboard in high
school with the cables like that, I actually did at
the time.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
I didn't a dorm in my college dormitory, I did
a switchboard.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
With you pulled the cable out and connected people to me.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Up until the nineteen eighties, there were still a lot
of cable They looked better than the eighteen hundreds one,
but they were still you had to go hang on
a moment and put the cable in to connect the calls,
especially in offices. And I was in the Hollywood High
School office taking office service and.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I ran the switchboard.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
And remember high school, so I'm like seventeen years I
was literally doing that while we're filming it. I knew
how to run the switchboard. I was doing it at
school that day, and it was I was really good
at it.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Because Hollywood High School, May I help you? I remember
my mother called.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
She didn't know it was me. It was just freaking hysterical.
But yes, so I actually know how to run a switchboard.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
So that was like method acting, totally method.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
I love. But Harriet won't order the stock on the
phone because someone might be listening.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
Brilliant because she's no dummy.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Yeah right, And she races off to in the in
her buggy to wherever. I don't know where is she
going to buy the stock? I mean, is she going
to Mancato to Minneapolis? And she's on a journey to
buy the stock.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
And that's the end of Act two.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
I think we should take a break, Let's take a
little bit come back and see what happens in Crusted
Do Do Do Garvey on Fire.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Okay, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 7 (53:52):
Okay, we're back and Jonathan is leaving. He is hopping
on a train to does her mother live?

Speaker 4 (54:01):
He and Charles are going on a little trip. He
just needs some he needs to take a breath.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
And yes, so he and Charles are taking a trip
to go do some work in Minneapolis, which.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Just happens to be right near where his mother in
law lives. Just happens to be so that he can
say okay.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
So then we're sitting at the table with Alison's mother
and we get the backstory girl, and it is intense.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
Just like Alison said.

Speaker 7 (54:37):
She was a little girl a week into he was
her father figure, her father had died.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Situation and screw get into That's what she said.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
She didn't say when she grew up, when she was
an adult, when she was eighteen, when she grew into womanhood.
So this creep show when she was like what five
and hung out until she hit puberty and then married
her What the what you mean? What is this?

Speaker 2 (55:06):
What is this story?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Who is mom? Let that happen?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I mean, yeah, that's different, it's a different time.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
He was a gentleman.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
We thought he had but she thought he was going
to be rich. He's a gentleman.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
He's going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
She had no idea, gambled.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
He was always dressed so well, and he was.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Just like, marry the kid off you and yeah, she'll
be fine, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (55:29):
Okay, So Jonathan's heart seems to be softening a bit
towards Alice, yet he still feels he needs to do
one more thing, which is go to Harold the loon,
to see Harold.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Also the bar, remember the.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Name of the bar.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
And it's a good time salute. And clearly no one
has ever had a good time there. They're all miserable.
Everyone is there alone in misery, total alcoholic depression, drinking.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
It's not the good.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
It's not the good time saloon. Yes, it's a very sad,
sad salut.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
And what a great piece of casting to I mean,
to hire Royal Dano, brilliant to be Harold. I mean,
talk about a guy I don't think i'd ever seen
in anything i'd seen, and I don't know huge amounts
of Royal Dano's work, but you never I never really

(56:26):
had seen Royal Dano smile before in anything that I'd
seen him in. And to watch him express his sadness,
and then to share what a beautiful young woman Alice
had been and he'd made these mistakes, and you know, boy,

(56:47):
don't ever let that happen to you, young man.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Obviously this is this is right on the nose.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
It's but again serving the story, and you have a
wonderful delivery of this from Royal Dano.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
Except never before did I realize that Harold is also
Sylvia's father.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Of course, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
You know, I had not remembered that. And when I
was rewatching this, I literally gasped.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
I was like, oh my god, it's And then I
was like, maybe this is my brain playing trick on me,
because I think every blacksmith is the blacksmith, and when
it's not the actual blacksmith, the Sylvia Blacksmith.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
So I was like, let me let.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
Me I am b D this, I am dB that, No,
I am whatever. Yes, there's a broadaby London. And I
was like, I am correct. This is Sylvia's father.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
No, you'.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Yes. And he's so good.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Yeah, he's so good.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
He was so creepy, was Sylvia. He was your dad
that it was so bad that people suspected him in
the episode because he was like, yo, cover yourself up game,
and he was always yelling at her about looking to
sexy and she was temptress and it's like ew ew
ew he was horrid. And so this man sadly has
a distinction of being utterly inappropriate with young girls twice

(58:24):
on the Little House on the Prairie.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
I know that's why.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
Such it was a baldy casting choice to bring him
back for Sylvia's dad, which he was brilliant.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
I mean, it was the right casting choice.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
But if I'm looking at this man credit leg he
goes all the way back.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
His credit goes back.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
To a Motorola Television Hour era.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
He was in an episode of literally every single thing
ever on TV, ever, ever, ever. He was in the
movie The Red Badge of Courage, he was in Moby Dick,
he was in he was in everything.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
And it's like, I think, if I'm miss being in
the right stuff, that's where I really became. Is he
was the you know, he was the preature in the
right stuff who was always presiding over the funerals of
these test pilots who died.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Wow, and he just had.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
This beaten world beaten down. You know, he was just
he was a guy who lived his life in tragedy.
And he's got that face where you just sort of
feel like, oh my god, what what other horrible thing
can happen to this band.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
That's why it's such a wonderful surprise for me, who.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Had not seen a huge amount of his work, to
see him smile wistfully remembering something and framing it.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
I mean, he framed himself as the problem.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yes, he did all the other things, all the things
that you've said are when you think about it, creepy
got it.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yep, And he.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Knows, and again I don't.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
He knows, he knows, he's full.

Speaker 6 (59:47):
And also, this is us.

Speaker 7 (59:48):
Coming from a twenty twenty five Cory jaded perspective, although
truthful perspective that I ever intended to be when this
was written or when it was you know, this is
this is us current day going wait a minute, because
you know, growing up, I never thought twice, I never
looked deeper into maybe what that relationship was other than what.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
They say it is. But it's but he talks to it.
He's like, oh no, we know too much, so young.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
And then not only was a gambler, I robbed a bank.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I did this. She had no way, so yeah, so
he does. He takes him and he goes, yeah, this
this was one giant disaster from the get go and boy, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Screw that up.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
He knows, he knows, he screwed it all up.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
And he says, I hope you know he found out
that al Allison is now married and has a son,
and he says, looks at Jonathan, who also played it
very smartly, different name and different, you know, saying I
hope whoever, I hope her husband.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Played it, wrote it very smartly, and and Merlin played
it nicely.

Speaker 7 (01:00:55):
Yes, yes, yes, but he says it does this is
the man who marry Alice.

Speaker 6 (01:01:00):
Know how lucky he is. That gives Jonathan a whole
different perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Yes, and then he goes back to the hotel and
tells the whole thing to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Charles, and he's so good he's took it now. When
he took this on initially be like, oh, it's Marlin Nelson.
He's a football player. He's a sports commentary dude. He's
not only an actor actor. And the story, the legend
is that when Michael asked him to do this, even said, well,
I'm not really an actor, and he said, don't want
you to act. So I know that was Michael's like,
no acting here, I want you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
To be natural.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
I want you I want the way you walk and talk.
That that's really what I want. This guy is like this.
He's like you, I want it deadpan, natural. I don't
want you to do anything, and I want you to
act and I want him to be like you the
way you walk and talk. This is fine. And he said,
if you need help, if it doesn't work, if you're
doing a scene and I don't think you're doing it,
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
We'll make it happen. But that's fact that he would
be so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
And when he spoke in his early seat to when
he's just being a regular normal person a scene, he's
so earnest and plain and Michael's like, yeah, that's what
clear playing. Yes, why yes, I love Wallace. That's why
I want this simple man, A very simple man, a
little sheltered, like he's so shocked that his wife could
have been married before.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
He's a little sheltered. He's like, no, do people do that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
And that's so we played it. So when you finally
see him in what is a big, serious emotional scene
that could be very hard to do with this guy,
and he freaking nails it. He absolutely blows.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Out of the walls. It's like bare yep.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
Do you know what I wrote in my notes? Sorry,
go on, what did you write? I was gonna say,
Garvey earns his episode.

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
He's a bear, He's a big bear, and we love
the bear there, ok the kind of the kind of man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
It's a kind of man that some gay men are
very attracted to. That's sort of big, strapping.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
I knew that that's okay, that's because.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Bear.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Yeah, and there's there's a there's a lot of Garvey
love out there for this very reason. But I said,
Gardy earns his bear status with this episode. Sexy, sensitive,
strapping broth of a man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Such a gentle giant. And then he was. He was absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
You know, and to his huge credit to Merlin, he
was very receptive to being coached. You know, he was
because he had to give him what. He was a
very coachable human being. That's his whole life had been
about getting coached. So he obviously he opened himself up

(01:03:48):
to being coached by Michael in a very gentle way.
He opened himself up to Hersha coaching him a little bit.
When he worked with Catherine, my wife, Catherine on Father Murphy. Yeah,
there was there was gentle exploration to help him get
to places that he needed to go to. And Catherine,
I mean I did never spoke to hersha about this,

(01:04:10):
but Catherine just loved Merlin because he was so he
was so open and receptive to suggestion as to how
something might play. She never told him how to play it,
but gave him thoughts that he.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Could then work with adjustments that he.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
Could and his ego didn't get in the way of it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Yeah, and he was very You had to do.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
Some heavy, I mean when Alice dies. He has to
do some heavy, some serious dramatic stuff in this show.
And he's really really lovely. Dean. Isn't it so weird
your degrees of separation that you had with Catherine before
you got together.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
It's so crazy to be Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I always say to people, I owe so much, so
much of the good things that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Have happened in my life. I owed a little house.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah, it's just including my wife Catherine, who I met
as she was going to audition for Michael to play
this May Woodward part on Father Murphy. So it's like
that the little house connections just ripple through my life
that are and it's affected every so many good things
that have happened.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
It's been a part of that. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
So but we're talking, you know, talking about Merlin just
such a lovely, lovely man and a good man.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Decent man, and he did he was very well thought of.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
He'd done a few episodes of things, but held like
big goofy guy, not a big part. A couple of
shows on he was like as Merlin Olds, so oh
look it's Merlin Olds in the Football Player. He did
like he did like that kind of stuff and the
right episode right.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Exactly those cammeos that people would do, and he did have.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Some small parts and things, but it was you know, big,
big doofis guy. He did. He went when doing this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
He wasn't a dramatic romantic need and.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
Suddenly no, no, he's lovely all right.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
So we cut to Nelly in her living room playing
the piano.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
Which is super meta because it's a little house. Same
she is playing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
That's not weird.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
It was I was like, they did not, Yes, they did,
and it's awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:06:34):
And before David, oh yeah for sure, for sure. It's
sofa and Nell's is like you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:43):
Suck go away, but she does, which I love that
also they actually.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't didn't and they had me play
the piano several times. Well, of course he used to
have me sing the famous Home on the Ridge, and
I neither shame nor played the piano.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
And I just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
The thing for exercises. They try to teach you as
a kid ding ding ding ding ding, so I could
put my hands there so it wouldn't look if they
glimpse my hands.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
They released in the right spot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
That was about it. Yeah, it was hysterical, hysterical.

Speaker 7 (01:07:21):
I also love that she's like, you wouldn't talk to
me like this is if mother was here, and he's like, yep,
and I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
It's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
And that's up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
The entry of the Return of Harriet in the Big coct.

Speaker 7 (01:07:37):
It's so satisfying when Nels actually gets a win, you know,
like it's so like the audience needs it everyone and
then you really need that kind.

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Of just desert, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:53):
So right, So, so Harriet loses her shirt on this
bogus stock trade and as she has no money, and
he's like, I have money. You don't have money because
the store is mine, not yours. You set that deal
up and not me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
La la la la la.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
I think that's really interesting that he takes the position
that I got mine, What are.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
You gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I love It's it's sort of an interesting in a
marriage situation where you know they've talked about they did
this together.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
The way. The way Harriet was established that she was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
From a from a wealthy family, and clearly she had
five thousand dollars in her in her mattress, which was
a lot of money in those days.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
And she she did drag him into it because she's
always said he got half interest in the store, was
like that was the dowry or something particular. And so
she says, yeah, I'll let you have let me do this,
and I'll let you have half my other half, you'll
have the whole store. Because she's I don't care, I'm
gonna make millions on this stock.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
And then she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
And I remember when when I got the hotel half interested,
so he'd called it so they were halfy. But then
she said no, no, He's like, you can't take all
that money, and she says, fine, you can have my
half of the store because I'm not gonna need it
because I got to go do this. And then she
comes back and he's like, you've forgotten your half of
the store.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
Yeah, And of course he's doing it to teach her
a lesson, and you know.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
She deserves it. She absolutely deserves it.

Speaker 7 (01:09:34):
So he's like, you need to get a job if
you want to be with me. So she's loading the
wagon with the fragile dishes that she plunks down in
the back of the wagon, and she absolutely deserves every
bit of it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:54):
Jonathan then returns home.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
In hand.

Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
Yes, and he knows he was wrong and everyone is forgiven.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
And and then the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
Where I go, maybe not the best idea, which is
he then knocks down the telephone pole.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
The cruising guy that he is, he could take down
the phone pole with his hands.

Speaker 6 (01:10:23):
To have a phone alone on the prairie. Are you
sure about? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
He trects the phone, but then also again when he
rips down that pole, those wires don't coaches straight to
the mercantile.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Wouldn't he actually walk.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Phone service to everybody up the street for nine houses? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Yeah, it's like, no, you can't actually do that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:44):
It realized it would served the story, so we accept
it for what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:10:50):
But I thought, you're really gonna want to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
You just the house wall.

Speaker 6 (01:10:57):
He could have thought it right, but he was of
a man. No, he's a strapping broot of a man.
He's going to rip the whole.

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
Dang thing out of the wall and that's it. Then
we're happy and poor Andy through this whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
Gosh, but he you know, you know, Patrick was Patrick
is good in this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
So terrific.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Well, Patrick was terrific in everything. Patrick's a wonderful actor
and and he's got it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
Patrick has a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Really nice range of things that he is, you know, directions,
he's able to go as an actor, and he was
able to be He certainly could summon up that vulnerable,
hurt child.

Speaker 4 (01:11:38):
Uh and he did that beautifully here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
And well and I think he look, I think he
had a wonderful relationship with Merlin. His own father was
you know, Patrick's father, who was you know, older.

Speaker 10 (01:11:51):
And Patrick really needed he really needed somebody who could
he could turn to, and Merle and really took that
on with him.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Yeah. Yeah, So it was really a nice relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
And again the allegory for the Internet because after a
whole episode of well, internet bullying and people on your
Facebook and and Nellie was exactly like someone was like
it's all over Instagram or the bully, the school bully
puts your stuff out on there, and then what do
you do? What are the parents who findist that that's it,
that's it, we're being out give it, Give me your laptop,

(01:12:27):
give you your cellphone. We're not doing this anymore. And the
frustration people feel now and go, it's it. I'm ripping
out the Wi Fi because the Saint Safe. It's like again,
it's still relevant today, the urge to just go rip
it out of the wall with all the bs on there.

Speaker 7 (01:12:43):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I'm watching a Netflix stock. I
just finished watching a Netflix doc that is insane. Bananas
bananas called Known Number, It's called under the Number.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
Yes, oh my god, that's teenage. Anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:12:57):
It's about this these little teenage like girl and boy
and a few teenagers like fourteen year olds, who for
two years were getting bullied. They were getting unknown number
texts multi like fifty texts a day, like NonStop, twenty
four to seven, for almost two years of these horrible, horrible,

(01:13:19):
abusive bullying things, horrible, especially to this little girl. And
then they finally the FBI I get involved.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
I mean, it is bad.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
It is the abuse is bad, bad, and it turns
out it was the girl's mother doing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
It the whole time.

Speaker 7 (01:13:38):
I know it's bad, it's really bad anyway. Yeah, the
internet can be very evil. It can all be evil.
It can also work for the forces of good, which
is our podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
It's all inten Yes, if what do you want to
do with your life?

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
And I think, right, come back as we as we
button this up. This is what Little House is about,
over and over and over again. It's offering up object
lessons as to asking the question who do you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Be in the world?

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
And I think this is one of the hugely important
reasons why Little House has sustained because it's so clear.
It offers such clear examples of how to behave and
how not to behave, and it becomes these become teaching
moment after teaching moment, and you can see it again

(01:14:34):
and again and again, and you are reminded of good
behavior and not good behavior.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
Yeah, right or wrong is very clear in the Yeah
for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, and that's that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
That's it. Yeah, this is a good. Gosh, it was
so fun.

Speaker 7 (01:14:54):
I know, this episode is so good. And the Olsen
Chef's kiss on the brilliance and the horror.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
Of it all.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
So so it feels so weird to love it because it's
so awful.

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
But gosh, you guys are good. Guys are good, and
what can I say?

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I'm went into a wall.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
It was I had so much fun this episode. It
was awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:15:16):
What more could a gal ask for? All Right, everybody,
thank you so much for being with us. You can
check out everything that we're doing on our socials Little
House fifty podcast or a website Little House fifty podcast
dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Look in our show notes for all the events.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
Our live event in New York City November twenty second
at Greenroom forty two, and if you can't be there,
you can get live stream tickets.

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
Woo. Anyway, that's our show for today. Bob, get the wig.
Let's lie. I like my telephone. You don't want a
lambline anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I'm lamp breaking than I.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Thanks again, We

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