"HERE COME THE BRIDES" RECAP!

Dean and Alison are just a day away from the Little House on the Prairie Cast Reunion at Columbia State Historic Park—but there’s still plenty of time to recap one of the funniest episodes in Little House history!

This week, we dig into “Here Come the Brides” (Season 4), where we come to a shocking realization: almost every Little House wedding is a surprise wedding. Seriously—BOOM. No invitations. No planning. Just, “Surprise! You’re hitched!”

This episode has it all: Nellie in full teenage heat (seriously, someone hand her a fan), Mrs. Oleson attempting homicide, and little Willy not giving even half a hoot. Pig farming somehow becomes sexy, Miss Beadle (the fabulous Charlotte Stewart) becomes a Mrs., and Nellie is crowned the Pig Queen of Minnesota…for approximately ten minutes.

Alison shares some epic behind-the-scenes stories—how Jonathan Gilbert came up with that pratfall, what it was like working with “Luke,” and the sneaky way Charlotte helped cast her future husband in the show. She also reflects (with just a tiny bit of cringing) on just how, uh… aggressively enthusiastic Nellie was in this one. It’s pure comedy gold.

And of course—join us on Patreon, where Alison spills even more tea about this episode. Trust us, it’s worth it.


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Speaker 4 (02:29):
Hello, bonnet heads, how are you? This is Pamela Bob.
I'm your host, creator and star of Living on a
prairie and I am here with Oh she looks very
smart today with the glasses down by her nose.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
Yes, it's our beloved prairie bitch.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Miss Allison Arngrim. Hello, Allison sturdious.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
That's sort of sexy secretary.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, and Dean, you can do your sexy secretary now
with you.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
Oh, well, no work, I'm the that's the bookish professorial thing.

Speaker 9 (03:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, he's the dean of this Yeah.

Speaker 8 (03:07):
Yeah, the dean of the Dean. So I could tell. Actually,
if I take off my glasses, I can barely see either.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Of you, so keep them on, keep them on.

Speaker 7 (03:14):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
He's my hashtag imaginary boyfriend, all of our hashtag imaginary boyfriends.
Dean Butler, Hello, guys, how are you?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (03:22):
How are you? How is how's everybody?

Speaker 5 (03:24):
I'm good, I'm good. But what's going on this week?

Speaker 8 (03:28):
Well, I mean we are we are hours away from
well actually, when this breaks, this will be the day
before our event if we yeah, day before Columbia. So
that's what we're really excited about. I mean, I just
I'm going to hold up our official poster here. This
is the this is the poster. And here is our

(03:48):
official tote bag.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Oh, I love the tote bag.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
That we have. Yeah, so we've done a We've done
a poster and a tote bag, and there's there's a
cap and a whole bunch of the things that we've done.
I think Colombia is going to be just Colombia is
going to be just leafy and beautiful. It's going to
be sort of in the mid eighties. And if everything
is holding the way we're looking at the advanced forecast,

(04:13):
it should be just absolutely gorgeous. There's going to be
little house music playing on the streets of Columbia, and
of course we'll have the train on the on Saturday night,
and our meet and greet sessions and beautiful pop up
banners that Orlando de la Pause is designed for behind
each cast member, and it's it's going to be. I

(04:33):
think it's going to be a really lovely event. We
have rarely gone into a space that is so authentic
for you.

Speaker 9 (04:42):
Know, for what we're doing, which is great.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's kind of to me like see Me is the sequel,
because we filmed in Seni and we recreated the set
so it looks filmed. Well, what did we do once
a year, we all loaded up the gang and got
on a plane and went up to Sonora area to
between heartt and Angels camp in the mountain. It's where
you know, the Lord is My Shepherds they camp out
on and on and on Fools Golf Endless episode where

(05:07):
hello we shot up there.

Speaker 8 (05:08):
That's right, fools Gold so here. Yeah, so this image
here that right here, Sorry Orlando did sorry there, So
we did an it's a combination of the Panning for
Gold and the Laura cross from uh from the Lord

(05:30):
is My Shepherd. So we did a combo thing there.
This one, the driving shot is is sort of the
Almonzo carriage going through Colombia. Now we never saw that shot,
but we we created that shot. So because this this
Wells Fargo building is a central piece of the Columbia,

(05:52):
you know, the Columbia architecture. So and then of course
then where are we here at the top? Where is there? Know?
Where is it?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (06:01):
Maybe it didn't it didn't get so we have the train.
Sorry we didn't have it. We didn't have Jonathan's mountain
that is on the poster right here. So he did
such a beautiful job with this. I think people are
going to love it. He obviously wanted to be inspired.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, exactly, memories. I was, you didn't interview the other
day and I said this, I said, the big thing
of why you need to buy a ticket is to
watch all of us have flashbacks and memory totally.

Speaker 10 (06:28):
I didn't make the time we did it because.

Speaker 9 (06:30):
It's yeah, yeah, no, I think that's I think it's
going to be really fun and a beautiful location.

Speaker 8 (06:37):
And everybody and everybody.

Speaker 9 (06:40):
In gold Rush Country has been so welcoming and positive
about this, and.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
Uh, you know, so it's going to be fun. We
are starting the second half century of Little House Love
in Columbia. Yeah, I mean there's something the second half
century of Little House Love.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
As you both wear your glasses, I.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Know, yeah exactly, because I can't see it so and
I just want to mention. I just want to mention
before we uh, before we step into the episode. That
coming up in July is Laura Palooza in Sea Falls,
South Dakota, And if people want to know about that,
they can check out l I W l r A

(07:21):
dot org. This is an academic this is really the
more academic side of Laura. It's a small group, but
they are passionate about Laura, and if you're in that
category but don't know about this, Laura Palooza is really
I mean, it's a deep, immersive dive into all things Laura.

(07:43):
And one of the fun things that's happening as it's
happening at our event is in Seuit Falls, and this
is in July July ninth and tenth. In Seux Falls,
there is going to be a screening of a screening
of Little House Homecoming Trip Friendly, who is the owner
of the Little House franchise, is going to be there

(08:03):
as along with the showrunner for the new Little House
on the Who's going to be there talking about what
they're doing. And I think that's going to be a
really fascinating conversation. So I'm going to be there. Jonathan
Parker is going to be there. Else. I know you
talked about being there, but you can't you're traveling.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm going to be If you're in the other end
of the country and you can't make it there, swing
on by Provincetown take the Little Ferry from Boston.

Speaker 8 (08:32):
A very different experience.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Different the other five shows at the Red Room in
July and Red Room Fabulous Club it's underneath the ice
cream parlor, easy to find.

Speaker 10 (08:44):
After my show, you can go get ice cream. It's fat.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I love that, and it's it's a really fun place.
And I will be telling many tales, naughty and otherwise
and it'll be a hoot and yes, and it'll.

Speaker 10 (08:58):
Be really fun.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And you know, there's pizza and ice you Competeawn's a
fun place. It's it's crazy. It's like a festival.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
In the summer.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's everyone is doing your show there, so it's it's
almost like a fringe festival of just crazy shows.

Speaker 10 (09:10):
And from all over the world. There was there was
a guy from England.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Doing this absolutely insane thing on stage when it was
there left.

Speaker 10 (09:16):
So yeah, yeah, it's wonderful.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
Well we listen. We can't wait to hear all about that. Uh, Panela,
let's step in here, let's do this.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Okay, coming up today, I'm very excited about this episode
because it was a.

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Pleasure to watch.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
It was so funny on my last week's episode, which
was asier Jerker, But this one is a barrel of
laughs and it's Allison at her teenage best. Okay, it's
a quirky episode, guys. It's featuring Charlotte Stewart, Miss Beetle,
and our Beloved Prairie Bitch, but first produced in the

(09:51):
studios of ubn Go and Burbank, California. This is the
Little House fiftieth Then of there's a podcast.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, Allison's tidying upper lipstick. There it is.

Speaker 7 (10:16):
Okay, we're back, Dean hit it.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
What episode we're talking about?

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Okay, So today's episode is season four, episode twelve, Here
Come the Brides, a very, very terrific episode. I've seen
parts of this before. I'm just so I'm gonna I'm
not I wasn't encyclopedically familiar with this, but there are
moments with Allison and Catherine and all that that you

(10:43):
if you're a Little House fan, you can't not know
these moments. They are fantastic. So Here Come the Brides
premiered on December fifth, nineteen seventy seven, written by John T. Dugan,
who John was a such an interesting, quirky guy, little
old guy at the time. My recollection is big white mustache,
big thick head of white hair.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
He was just he wrote sort of the He was
really specialized in the funny, quirky episodes during his time
on the show. This was directed by William F. Claxton
builded a great job.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
What do you know what other episodes he did?

Speaker 5 (11:26):
Y Claxton ord, No, no, Dugan, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Sorry, we had We'd have to look there are Yeah,
we'd have to look that up.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I did not list that he did the funny ones
he did a lot of.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
Yes, he did do a lot of the funny He
was was very good. My favorite line from the episode
Nell's make her a widow. And you know that's that's
like the best line. So Allison read a lit quick
synopsis on what this episode is.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I love this episode so much and I was so
happy I watched it again because, oh my god, what
It's just a display of adolescent rebellion.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
And houting and skulking and thin and.

Speaker 10 (12:02):
Massive hormonal love.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
It really is.

Speaker 10 (12:04):
Romeo was really a.

Speaker 8 (12:07):
Massive hormonal love on Little House. That's something right there.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
It's Nelly has tea, It's the Harmons go wild.

Speaker 10 (12:14):
It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
When Adam Simms and his son Luke roll into Walnut Grove,
they bring more than just their pig farming ways, their
big farming ways. I'm dying here, he do. They bring chaos, romance,
and a whole lot of overalls. Luke, who's a free
spirited lad who considers shoes optional and overall's formal wear,
catches the eye of none other than Nelly Olsen. Yes,

(12:38):
that Nelly walnat Grove's resident mean girl. Meanwhile, Adam Simms
sets his sights on Miss Beetle, the town school teacher.
Their courtship is a swift as a prairie wind, good lord,
leaving townsmoke.

Speaker 10 (12:51):
And viewers alike wondering if there's something in the well water.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
The women are all very effective. Women are so aggressive
in this episode. Laura tries to get him, I go
after him. She's it's like, what would there's something wrong
that the women need a man? Dispad what is happening?

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Harriet Olsen, ever, the.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Social snob, is horrified by Nelly's affection for a shoelass
pig farmer, for attempts to sabotage the budding romance are
as subtle as a stampeed replying parental disapproval and all
common sense.

Speaker 10 (13:18):
Nellie and Luke alope a sleepy eye. That's a romantic
place to come.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
The City of Love, Oh, featuring a Justice of the Peace, Oh,
my God, the amazing Ivor Frances shut up, I reve
notes about him, Oh my God, sleep and a groom
who ends up.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Running from the shotgun of his new mother in law.
With Nellie's marriage and old Miss Beadle and Adamsons decide
to try the out as well, making it a two
for one wedding special because nothing says Prairie romance like
a pulse of matrimony.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
And that is true.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Actually, actually, I think every single every single marriage, every
single wedding we see him Little House on the Prairies
is shot like a far.

Speaker 10 (14:01):
Except for just hit me now everybody.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Else Isaiah Lauren Almonzo.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
I guess Mary's was the only one planned, but then
there was that damn zamstorm.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
But then they got married after.

Speaker 10 (14:14):
It's always boom, gotta get married.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Love conquers will except for that fashion sense of parental approval,
wrote this one of my faves. One of my faves
because Okay, I am fifteen in this episode We'll see
to aired in December, so we shot it a few
months before I would have Chester in fifteen in January,

(14:36):
so I was fifteen.

Speaker 10 (14:38):
Probably in a few months when we shot I.

Speaker 12 (14:41):
Was super, super super puberty, teenage insanity happening. It was
hilarious and so it was so perfect to now the
first time she rebels against her mom.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, there's time she falls.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
In love and shot up. You scream quite a scream
that you do that. Well, we're we want to get
ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh yeah, I go.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
Do we want to do? We want to track this
a little bit about how I mean, because Luke shows
up and you are instantly done instantly.

Speaker 10 (15:10):
Smith, I do have a note about that.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay. So first it happens is these people get out
of this this wagon and they're ordinated. They look exactly
like all the other farmers there with the big foofy
hair and overalls and cheets, every kind of nineteen seventies
clearly purchased from the department store overalls.

Speaker 10 (15:24):
Can I just I saw that?

Speaker 8 (15:25):
I went, yess Yeah, I was like.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
And he gets out and he's just average looking dude
kid and says his dad. But they get out and
immediately Laura's like, Hi, she the welcome wagon.

Speaker 10 (15:38):
What what has happened?

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:41):
And she's eager and then I'm like, out of my way.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Hey, Hi, I'm Nilias and how are you that's about
I'm sorry, I'm fifteen. So she's just barely thirteen. This
cat is you know, he's playing I guess sixteen seventeen.
He's twenty seven. He's twenty seven years old?

Speaker 8 (16:00):
Is he really twenty seven?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
He's late twenties. He was like twenty seven. I have
to look him up his birthday, but twenty five six
definitely older than twenty five way, And we're children, teenagers,
and we're like, we're not just like gee, he's cute.

Speaker 10 (16:14):
Hi there, We're like hi, hi, Hi, hi ya, what
are you doing later?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like over for real stranger. He hasn't been it's not
like he's been introduced to the class. And we're like, oh,
the new boy, Luke. We're like, he just got out
of the wagon. They could be there to fix something.
We don't know who they are. It could be the plumber,
and we're just like hi. And then Miss Beetle is like, hey, there,
sailor to the brother, what is what is going on?

Speaker 10 (16:39):
Why are these women like assault.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Lonely on the prairie? What very lonely?

Speaker 8 (16:44):
You know?

Speaker 10 (16:44):
How many new people do they meet?

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Never?

Speaker 8 (16:46):
It speaks to the It speaks to the way that
Michael guided the storytelling here and the way John T.
Dogan Dugan wrote this one is he just you just
stepped right into it and just throw out any sort
of pretense about well would this happen, wouldn't it happen?

(17:07):
Forget that, or any kind of this, this is what's happening right.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Now, right, or any kind of like swag or subtlety.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
No, forget that.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's straight in for the kill.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
There's no swag on the prairie.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
But it's so these young girls, these children accosting a
grown man who they have been introduced to.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
So that just just validate me here. That would not
happen today, right that casting a full grown adult to
play or even kiss, and it was an innocent kiss.
But it's a kiss, oh a minor that would not
happen to the coordinators.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I remember, just even a few years ago, there was
a series, I remember what it was. It was dramatic,
was good, and they had a thing where a regular
character who is now fifteen ish had to have a
romance they were growing up, and the casting was the
person had to be fifteen or sixteen, and it was
like a big deal and they had to like screen
tests with them, and that like everybody was so important, So.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
I'm sorry, how old was the person? They were just
a kids fifteen the cast okay, so everyone had to
be everyone had to be the same.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
We need somebody fifteen, we're not going to snag and
some twenty five d And it was like a huge
deal the thing. And now you have intimacy coordinators. So yeah,
now if you had a minor character having a romance,
they would insist that you brought in another minor or
had or if the character that was getting his was
really eighteen playing younger some anything.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
Well, okay, when we get there, I mean, I really
want to talk more about I love as you as
this progresses quickly immediately the way it's structured, we step
into you just fawning with sitting with your mother. I
love this, and we you get that scene where it's
so tough to be a rich girl.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Oh yes, whoo who well sne I tried, And okay
you have all these women like falling over this guy
that nobody's met, which is like weird, weird right there,
and then he comes into school and here's the other thing,
So miss Beeedle is not that freaked out about the
bare feet. She should be, but she's so in love
with his dad. She's likes shoes and what. And then

(19:18):
they make it clear, I don't fancy him. He's not
too poor, his dad is successful. Pig Farmer says happy,
I'm happy to go buy him shoes.

Speaker 10 (19:27):
He just doesn't like them.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
He just doesn't like them, and everyone goes, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
He just And it's interesting that Nelly is not phased
by that.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
She would have been.

Speaker 10 (19:39):
She would have.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
You know, really, I hate to say it. Yeah, Nellie
was in heat.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
She was great. Jonathan Gilbert before we get to the house,
or we definitely as Jonathan Gilbert, the brilliant actor, young
Jonathan Gilbert, all instinct to everything. So sitting there and
it's like who wants to sit with the new guy?
Lo and I elbow him and Jonathan slides off that bench.

(20:08):
Willie slams into the wall like slides like what we
rehearsed that that was Jonathan's idea. We're sitting there and
we're like, okay, so I'm gonna wax shove you out
of the seat, and he's like.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
Okay, wait, wait wait do it?

Speaker 8 (20:19):
Do it?

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Do it?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
And I barely touched him with my elbow.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
And he and he flies out and he said.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
And he goes, how is that should I do? That?

Speaker 7 (20:26):
Is that good?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
I'm like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Do that. It was so funny.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
It's great, kid.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Little He was like, yeah, I want to say I
saw a click because you know, Cozy TV always does
these fun clips from the house and Prairie and I
think they used that one in one of them, Allison,
for a promo for you.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Probably like probably, yeah, so and then the like you said,
the sexual thing that is kind of going on.

Speaker 10 (20:52):
I said something to.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Him about the game, like that deserves a reward?

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Is this about the base This was the baseball?

Speaker 1 (21:02):
And yes, I've come to offer candy you like to
do everyone. But I'm like her her The double entendres
throughout this episode and what am I?

Speaker 10 (21:10):
I'm like, where where was I going with it?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I have? I have once again, as you've always said,
with the character of Nelly, I'm all in.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
I'm all in. They say, this is what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Okay, so she's madly in love with this.

Speaker 10 (21:22):
Guy for no apparent reason.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Okay, I guess I am so rather them not notice
or try to ignore the vague double entendre here that
was I went all the way and turned it into
some like nineteen fifty sex farce where I'm.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
Like, that deserves a reward, just like I don't think
you didn't chew quite that hard.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
But there's it was a little it was a little jewy.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I will say for fifteen, it was a bit.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
It was like, whoa really girl?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
You know, she's uh huh pushing him.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Then we get back to the house and I love
the scene with cat throw where we're you know, doing
the yard and I'm.

Speaker 10 (22:03):
Saying, yo, let's have him to dinner.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Because you see Nellie openly manipulate her mother. It's ttentionial,
it's not innocent. She's not like, okay, we have the
boy to dinner. He's really nice. She's like, I'm getting
this boy to dinner. I'd like to have them to dinner.

Speaker 10 (22:16):
Oh no, no, we don't know these.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
People and those the Beniza station.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
What does you well? You know, Yeah, he has.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
This pig farm. I hear they're quite successful. Act here
he sold a big farm and he's buying a new one.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
I'm fifteen, Why do I.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Have planned this?

Speaker 10 (22:32):
Found this out?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And I'm telling my and she says, why haven't they
been the store? And I go, oh, they're probably gonna
need a lot of stuff and buy things from you.
Momt hint, I'm fifteen. Why would I say, I already
know what my mother wants. My mother wants rich, and
she wants them to buy stuff at the store.

Speaker 10 (22:47):
So I lay it up.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Oh yeah, they'll be buying stuff and manipulate her into
saying yes, you can have them to dinner. And I'm like,
thank you, mother.

Speaker 10 (22:54):
It's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
She's already figured out her mother's whole game and is
doing it well.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
Season four, yes, yes, yes, it is season four.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Really we know everybody, and is now going to work
her like I want.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Well once again, the psychopath check marks are all checkingy,
checking out. Yes, yes, but she's you know, she's well,
I'm gonna say it that Dean Dean says it. She's
in heat that way. She is raring to go okay, yeah, it.

Speaker 8 (23:28):
Really is well. And Allison, you you did it, really,
you know you did it. It was funny you did it.
Funny you do You always do so much with your eyes.
I mean there's this intensity in your eyes and of
course you're fawning. At the same time, it varies. It

(23:48):
goes back and forth from sort of like dead on
intention to lost in the lost in the haze of infatuation.
I mean, you know, it goes back and forth. It's
just very watchable. You know, what you did through the
years continues to mean the as I watch it and

(24:12):
more and more and more, I am so impressed by
what you did and how you did it. And you
always kept there was always the humor alive in what
you were doing. I think you fully understood what your
flavor was that you were bringing to.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
This is one of the funniest episodes. There are several
moments where I just laugh about me too, stuff going on.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
Oh and I just mars Marsick.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Was only like twenty two, so okay, okay, so.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
Still an adult, and and he had his girlfriend on
the set.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Came to the set and that was like another one
of the weird moments where I didn't see me.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
So we've been filming a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think we started at Paramount and his girlfriend shows up,
and it was weird because it was like, oh, my girlfriend.
She was like, hello, I am his girlfriend, and I
went there was this vague thing as she wanted to
be there for the romantic scene.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
She had to she had to make sure everything.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Was going on.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
What is that?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
And I was like, just this grown does this woman
think that I am a threat?

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right? Really? Really fifteen year old pimply I am a
threat to your Wow?

Speaker 10 (25:17):
Girl, No, no, I am not a threat to your relationship.
I'm not stealing your man.

Speaker 8 (25:23):
But it was there like, but you know, look, stranger
things have happened on sets. I mean, I mean that
stuff happens all the time. Now, I think this set
are set was a pretty professional place. It's not to
say that things didn't go on, but I think in
that regard, I think people pretty much understood what the

(25:45):
job was.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, she was a kid again, Wait can I can
I backcheck for one second? So did you meet him?
But like what did you? Did you audition? Were you
auditioning with anything? Now? Was like, oh, this is the
guy I think we started.

Speaker 10 (26:02):
We were like kissing the first day or something.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
It was the walk in the dark and the kiss
the first day, No.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
Thankfully it was not.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
But the second maybe that the day two or something's
all out of order. It was pretty quick, but I
introduced herself, your love, great, awesome, now Charlotte, Charlotte Stewart.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
She did, she did.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
So there was a whole casting thing and they said, oh.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
That's right. They gave her an option.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
The hot guys and she looked and said, I went
to college with him and actually dated him.

Speaker 10 (26:32):
She didn't tell them that she went.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
I think that one would be the one.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Was like an ex freaking by friend from Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
We were we were watching this last night and Catherine said, oh,
I like this actor. She you know, she she had
followed his career a little bit and she liked him.
And I thought he had a really lovely quality about him.
Great hat too that they put on him. He had
a great hat.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And you knew. He just died last year, last year,
and he was living in France because Prairie.

Speaker 10 (27:07):
Was really he was in France, apparently. I thought I
heard Bob Mars was living in France too. Do we
all move to fran.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
What's happening?

Speaker 8 (27:16):
Wow? Lovely, so let's let's keep moving.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
But he was nice to work with Allison, Oh my god, yes, no,
both of them were darling.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That's the thing I didn't and and that's the thing, well,
we'll talk well in the Patreon, we'll discuss what were
my real feelings for this got it?

Speaker 8 (27:33):
When he comes I want to jump to let's jump
to the dinner scene, because one of the funny scenes
when he comes to dinner and Harriet anticipating that this
was going to be like the new wealthy family on
the prairie, it's the real dose of what he is.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Just happened a lot, Remember to Hugh, you.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
Know, oh yes, huge, h.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
No, she waited about it.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
It was a star.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Was wealthy, and that's.

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Just part of the Yeah, that's part of the coming up.
And she's getting the time. Of course she has to
be appalled.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
He takes the cave cut five slices, and then he
takes the roast and says, my pass said I should
only take one slice.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
I love that, love that five pounds of beef roast.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And I just like he's a growing boy, you know,
there's thing like I love him. He eats, he's good.
But this scene afterwards we were courting Courton in the
parlor has one of my favorite lines in the episode
and one of my favorite pieces of dialogue of all
time of anything I've ever been in. And I cry
with laughters and it's a subtle throwaway thing. We had
one of those all the rage back then. Stereoscopic view Man,

(28:55):
the Viewmaster, the original, the the original Papa thing has
two photos and there's a thing but you look down
the middle and ooh, it's three D.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
And they had a real one on the set and
it was awesome.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
I was playing with it four hours.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
This is great. And I hand him the slide and
he puts it in and I completely deadpans say you'll
like this one. It has pigs in it.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
I will never stop laughing.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
At that ever, ever is the greatest, Like I'm trying
to think of anything I've ever said in anything they've
ever done.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
It was that freaking funny.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
So I'm sorry that was written written and I.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Was absolutely dying.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
I was almost the funniest thing anyone's ever said ever.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Like I literally laughed out loud several times in this.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Notice I'm wearing high heels. Notice I'm wearing a cute
little high heel booth.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Okay, that's exactly what I wanted to talk about.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Next was the costume department was on its game in
this episode, because not only I did notice your shoes, Allison.

Speaker 13 (29:58):
Women always notice she Missus Needles wearing in the last
scene too, when she gets mad that that blue with
the there are cutouts in it and it's just blows
and Missus Olsen.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I also noticed in the parlor scene or the it
was either the parlor scene, that first parlor scene or
the dinner scene, she's wearing these gold dangly earrings also
that I've never really noticed her wear, and they were gorgeous, gorgeous.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Missus Olsen was yes her own jewelry. They had some
Missus Olsen jewlry that that they brought in, and she
brought in a lot of her own and I think
the dangly I think.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
They were stunning.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
And for some reason they really stood out to me
because first of all, they were beautiful, and then I
had never noticed that she wore earrings before, which she
does in the show.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
But we are so pretty in the ships.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I noticed that my mapeup and my clothes they went
for We're going to make this girl pretty this week.
For sure. I've got a little extra lip stuff.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Yeah, that pitch well, the the the now. Something I
did notice, cause you know, is that you had a
lot more shape in the you know you're there, they
are they are presenting you with shape, lady.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
The flower dress, it's a light color. I think it
would be called fawn visions with the roses, but it's
pulled up at the sides, kind of a rousing thing
with little flower lumps. And I love that dress and I.

Speaker 8 (31:31):
Look really, I don't know how it works, but there's shape.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
And they're all and then they were little. Yeah, they
were shapey. And then also I was fifteen. I'm up
until fourteen. Oh yeah, no, no fortunes.

Speaker 8 (31:42):
Oh shit, I could have gone out.

Speaker 10 (31:44):
Riding my bicycle, no shirt up until four and then come.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Around fourteen fourteen, early fifteen, all hell broke loose and it's.

Speaker 10 (31:52):
All there on camera.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Suddenly, Wow, okay, she did puberty high and it's like, and.

Speaker 10 (31:59):
We were front yet front and center. Girls, they were
we were there.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We were there.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
Yeah, but they but it's great that they designed for
that to just add to the fun of that something
that's a huge piece of this episode and I talk
about it a lot when we talk about but David
Rose's score in this episode with concert with the fiddle
and jaw harp and the whole thing is just a riot.

(32:31):
And and the picking up on classical themes that he
uses through this Rights of Spring.

Speaker 10 (32:38):
Rights of Spring kicks in.

Speaker 8 (32:40):
And it's so and it's sweet. It's so sweet and
romantic and lovely and a little and a little corny
that you know where. You know immediately where this episode
is going. When we first twenty and.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
The big strings like love when you're running slow mo,
oh my god.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
The most their foot in that field. He had protection
on those souls.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
They did. They had to thing.

Speaker 10 (33:07):
They had like a spray on stick on thing they did.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
They put things on the bottom.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Of his mitchel had the same exact thing. It's like
they sprayed on that. They sprayed. They figured out how
to do that with Mitch, so they yes, the.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Music at some point it's almost going to go into
all sweet mystery of life. At last I found you
can hear this, You go, oh, I think it's pretending
to be that. And then when we were the Honeymoon,
when we get there it yes, it's at.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
The stripper they playing rack.

Speaker 8 (33:33):
It's just it's like it's two little phrases that you
that remind you of that. It's not too heavy duty
the way you'd always described it. I was imagining we
were going to hear the full arm thing. Obviously we
don't do, but you know exactly where David and he
does it not for you but for him.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
And it's the wat wam music because the strippers we
knew how to do that. So there's this wow wow
suddenly kicks in and.

Speaker 10 (33:57):
Then it like it.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Then it's gone, right, it's just straight piano.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
H But they and I'm wearing heels, so I'm a
grown up because girls where Mary change a little right?

Speaker 10 (34:10):
Grown up ladies have the little heels.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
Well that was that was big Laura's big turning point
too in Sweet sixteen where the the little the little
boot that changed everybody.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
Yes, a young woman on the prairie, they let you.

Speaker 8 (34:25):
Yeah, yeah yeah. And so heel does the whole It
does it.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Although I would think a heel on the prairie would
be very impractical.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
But I get it. I get it totally.

Speaker 8 (34:36):
It was totally impacted with gopher holes and all the
things that were going on out there. I mean, it
was just an ankle turn waiting to happen.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yes, okay, And the first rebellion is after dinner, when,
of course missus Aulsen freaks out and the Claude Hopper,
Claude Hopper, she.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
Called it, and she calls him all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
It is, and there's a Catherine moment again, and it's
Nellie's again, Nellie's first rebellion up until there is a
whole lot of yes, mother, Yes, mother, And it is
the first time when she says, you can't, and I
suddenly talk.

Speaker 10 (35:05):
I talked back to her.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Remember in eighteen hundred and amazing back your parents they said,
do this. You said yes, ma'am. I went, why in
the whiniest teenage voice ever recorded in history? Why? And
she flips out. And then I've talked about this for Okay,
things Catherine did acting wise, you're not supposed to do,
directing the other actors, changing the lines randomly as you see,

(35:27):
suddenly deciding you need a prop, and eating an apple.
And people say she did one of the things she
did that they would tell you in any acting class
never do. This would be to say the actors lying
back to them and imitate them. That would be unspeakable.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
Anyways, So great she did this.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I know, And it's so her character that I go, why,
so freaking it's funny, and it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
And it's brilliant, and it's what what missus Olson would do.
And also she knew it would keep it. Who want
to make make the other person mad so that we're
it's a knockdown, drag out And of course she would
do that.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
So it made sense.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
But normally you're taking out and shot at sunrise for
that sort of thing. This is not you don't do
that to be.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
All right, let's let's let's jump ahead to the ring,
to the ring.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
No, I just wanted to say.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I just want to say, so when you when you
guys sort of rehearsed the scene or whatever ran through
the lines before you shot up.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Did she do that during rehearsal. No, it was a surprise.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
He's like, I'm doing this, okay, it's more rebellion.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
No, I don't care, I rebell and then.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
She has show.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
Well that's later.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Everyone has our ambitions in life, and mine, Nelly, is
not to see you grow up to be missing. And god,
a T shirt that's says Minnesota pig queen with a
big with a piggy.

Speaker 7 (36:58):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (37:01):
So yes, oh my god, merch idea Okay, the Rebel.

Speaker 10 (37:05):
Brilliant dialogue, we just yet coon hunting?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
What we go coon hunting? What is happening in the
show I got? We go hunting? I went hunting in
that play, right.

Speaker 8 (37:13):
Well, there's multiple scenes about that that set up the
fact that you are sneaking around with this guy.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
We are going at it and I am going out
the window or something and we're.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Going and Nels doesn't seem to have any big problems
with this.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Yes, it's fine hating.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Because Luke's dad is like, well, they're kids, you know,
people being what they are, love being what, they're probably
gonna get hit, he said. The dads are both like, yeah,
we saw this coming and we what and the mother.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Yeah, that's just that's just so not but again serving
the drama as it needs to be served. I mean
it just it just tells you you can do absolutely
anything if you commit to it.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I've certainly been my my philosophy.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah that's your motto.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Now the ring, The ring is because it's my birthday,
he says, the corn shucking corseous and because oh for
my birthday, Oh my god, I have a birthday. Nelly's Yeah,
time is never mentioned. I think it was my birthday
when I came back to visit. Apparently the real Nelly
Owens was August second. And you do go corn shucking
often in August and September. That's when the corn is

(38:24):
coming in corn shucking, so that could cook at maybe
they did go with that.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
It was August, but.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
It is perpetual summer on the prayer.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
And corn shucking is the thing.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
And what in the heck when he said I'm going
on my birthday and I go, I'm grown now, and
misto woman again like fifteen, stop that, stop that you're fifteen?

Speaker 5 (38:46):
You doing?

Speaker 7 (38:47):
But she has movies.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Now, that's the thing I'm making Dean blush.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
The montages we have both Miss Beeedle and her man montage,
and then.

Speaker 8 (38:58):
We have a mostage. The parallel structure is really.

Speaker 10 (39:01):
Chopping wood like paw and then we.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
Run and you can tell this young man has never
thrown an axe in his life.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Oh my god, I.

Speaker 8 (39:09):
Just have to say, he has never thrown an axe
in his life.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
He was so I worried that he was going to
hurt himself because really.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Oh my gosh, I did not know. He's just whoa Oh.

Speaker 8 (39:19):
No, you can tell, you can tell when a guy
knows how to swing an axe or you know, use
a shovel or you just know. And he had never
done that.

Speaker 10 (39:29):
Even I was like, okay, off his foot.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
I like, good for he was very game. Good for him.
And nice Bill framed this or buzz Bogs framed this.
So you never actually saw where the axe was making
contact with the wood because you just don't want to
see that.

Speaker 10 (39:43):
It's a disast.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Now we run down that hill, and I just want
to say for people to watch that scene closely where
I ran down that hill. Yes, I believe this was
the time that Richelne and Wardrobe spoke to me about
having a more supporting brawl.

Speaker 10 (39:57):
I'm just saying gravity, things move when you.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Run down there, you go yeah, And we don't want yeah,
too much, too much movement on the prone.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah, it was teens gone wild walnut growth. It was
some kind of yeah.

Speaker 8 (40:11):
But now I want to get So that's that's post.
So that's post the kiss. I want to talk about
the fact that so after the after the ring is
bought and you've watched uh Luke and Mary come out,
you're furious. You go back into the store. Ma, your
mother tells you buying an engagement ring for Mary.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
She's not even a friendship ring. She goes, Oh, it's
an engagement ring out of like nowhere because she's still
in the pod. And how well do I do jealous rage?

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Just masay, Yeah, men are as fickle as weather vanes,
she says, to which you respond, sh good. That was
that really sort of came out of the intensity of
that really came out of left field for me. I
just wasn't I wasn't expecting tind boil when.

Speaker 10 (41:01):
I see him and Mary, and I go, what what what?

Speaker 8 (41:03):
What?

Speaker 10 (41:04):
What?

Speaker 1 (41:04):
What what? And they're clearly leaving together, and I do
a jealous rapeer. I stare at them and it's like,
I am gonna go boil someone's buddy. I am mad,
I am jack LUs. The jealous boiling, insane rage starts happening,
and then I go in, and then my mother, because
it's missus Olsen, she has to ruin everything for everybody
through the pope of course, Oh he is engaged her. Yeah,
you totally bought it for her. Yeah, totally, totally totally.

(41:26):
And then that's it.

Speaker 10 (41:27):
I'm gonna kill somebody, and it's shut up.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
And also, PS, you're a fifteen year old girl and
it's your mother, so that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Just on that point came out and I felt that the.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
Things that young women go through them and this is
very sort of a realistic moment, the things that young
women go through with their mothers, fathers and sons don't
have that kind of but there's something about a young
woman and her mother, that dynamic of that separation that's
taking place at that time where independence is being claimed,

(42:02):
that can be some knockdown, drag out stuff. I saw
it in my family. It's real and ours as sons
in the family, we never acted out like that. They
just didn't do.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
That sons and thought it get competitive sometimes there's the
little dysfunction you hear about, like usually it's a sports thing.
It'll be set in sports.

Speaker 10 (42:25):
Let's go shoot some hoops.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
Son, Well, they give me that short. But our father
never like deliberately pounded us on the basketball. Right, We
didn't do.

Speaker 10 (42:34):
That because he was a decent bird.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
There's a gay father. It depends on the age. Now,
my parents were older, which was probably good because what
happens is often if the mother is a typical age,
often she is now heading into perimenopause or menopause right
when the girl is hitting puberty. And these are two
terrible physical states that you don't want to people going
through the same time in the same building. And if

(42:55):
the mother has any issues, any issues, ever the shred
of an issue she has dealt with and she's now
on her way out of that particular zone. As Miss
smarty Pants is coming into the zone. And if the
girl is like cute, it can get ugly, it can
get just ugly, and any psychological underlying issues come.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
Flying flying out all well.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
And to add on top of that, your first love,
your first like experiences, and and just both social experiences
as well as romantic experience.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I mean, everything is just so super heightened.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
It's just like course, oh my god, you're in love forever.
It's like that's that's gonna be, like, that's it. This
is the guy, this.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Is this is the one is just hitting the age
where she may be even questioning her life.

Speaker 10 (43:41):
Joyceus she the boy, should I have married this guy?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
The girl's I'm gonna get marriage.

Speaker 8 (43:46):
Well, we get that, we get that moment from Nell's
later in the episode. We are we are going into
such detail here, and we are burning clock right right,
go crazy. Let's let's get to that. Let's get to
the kiss. Because the kisses you so he's gonna you're upset.
He comes with flowers. You go. He tells you he's

(44:07):
there for you. You are completely get the ring bought
and paid for. You get the ring. You can't believe.
It's a sweet moment. You get the ring, and then
you're gonna go to the corn chucking contest. You may
be late and you end up under the stars and
you have a moment, and we tell us about the moment.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Big smooch, and we have the Love American Style opening credits.
Fireworks stock footage of fireworks us behind us, which I'm
sure was from Love American Style, is ancient stock footage
of fireworks that went on twenty years ago that were.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
Pulled up and when we did it, that was all
shot indoors night.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
Sure of course you could tell it was the stage
on stage.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I think it was an MGM by then we're on
the stage and we're on the back porch there in
the mercantile. And they did do a lighting effect while
we kiss. They had gels on a couple of lights,
a little red blue, so you could as if the
fireworks were shining.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
Down upon us.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, and it was lovely, so much fun.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
So was the girlfriend there watching?

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh god?

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Yeah, And now I'd like to stay.

Speaker 8 (45:05):
This was this was the scene because this was the
only kiss, right.

Speaker 10 (45:08):
We had two kisses.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
Okay, we had two kisses.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
We had like a little kiss and then this was
the big kiss because we're like we get married, were like,
and this was but this was the big lip lock
and the hunt. And it was so crazy because I'd like.

Speaker 8 (45:21):
To see my mind had you kissed had you kissed
anyone before that?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
I had?

Speaker 8 (45:25):
I was because I could because we just you did
that with a certain amount of confidence.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Yeah, well you know.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I was also like, I'm in, I'm here, Sure I
got to kiss this guy.

Speaker 10 (45:37):
I had kissed a boy before.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
But my parents also didn't come down to the set
to watch me kiss a guy set any Mary was
on the set, but she was somewhere having a cup
of coffee nearby and did not feel the need to
sit and stare at me. I like, kissed the boy.
My parents said, we think you're quite capable of kissing
a boy without assistance, surial manage.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
It's fine, good for them, good for them. You know
it's again at that moment with the flashing of fireworks.
This is the end of act two. It's a very
very sweet moment, and it's it's it's it's romantic, it's sweet,

(46:22):
it's innocent, it's all those things that you would want
that moment to be, and it's got, you know, that
little tinge of humor like something is this is a
little odd, but it's really it's really fun and sweet.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I'm kind of goofy team too. I mean, they've made
me pretty and I'm clearly grown up enough to kiss
a boy, but I'm a little goofy. I was watching
when he finally gives me the ring and I go
into shock, and I'm like what I went and looked
like bud Court.

Speaker 10 (46:49):
It looked like bud Court the world and.

Speaker 8 (46:50):
Mod if he would one of the great, one of
the great May September romances ever filmed.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
And I worship Court.

Speaker 8 (47:00):
He's it's great. So is bed Court still around?

Speaker 10 (47:04):
I hope? So I don't know, God, I have to check.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
I mean that those were all that I just thinking
back to that movie and all the Cat Stevens music
and Ruth Gordon and it's just like, oh my god,
it was just brilliant.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Still kicking, still kicking at seventy seven. Yes, my mom
was in a movie with him and got his autograph
for me, and yes, he was delightful. He's a lovely person.

Speaker 10 (47:26):
Yes, watched What can They look like? Budcourt.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
Oh, Harold, stop it, Harold.

Speaker 10 (47:33):
It's like a little weird.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
But yeah, they're a little goofy. She's a little goofy
because she's Nelly and she's like loved what And then
he's a horror horror So they're they're lovely, they're perfect.

Speaker 10 (47:43):
They should be together.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
It's yeah, no, it's it's it's perfect. Let's just take a.

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Speaker 8 (48:40):
We're starting Act three, so I love the romantic run
through the mustard. We talked about that. We decided we
determined that there was some sort of material on young
Luke's feet, yes, and needed.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
More material on young Allison something gus well, yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
There for that, and then I tigried that out right.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
That was and you know, as much as that looked
romantic and fun running through the mustard, that would not
have been fun because yeah, the mustard is not fun
to run through it. So it got a little stickiness
to it and all that. The next scene after this
running through the mustard is h I love this. It's

(49:21):
like Miss Beetle chasing pigs. I know in the pen.
It's like, really, Miss Beetle is chasing pigs.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
And thinking it's hilarious and how romantic.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
It's sweet.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Charlotte is a child, so Charlotte is like, yes, animals,
Charlot's like, get loves animals, and but.

Speaker 8 (49:43):
You're never going to catch the pig, which of course
was the point. But I love that. And then he's
sitting there, you know, he's sitting there laughing. Adam is
sitting there. Adam and Eva love that, you know, sitting
there laughing at all this. And then we get to
we get so they're chasing the pigs, and then we

(50:03):
get to see Luke chop Wood looking like he's never
done that before. And then we go to the picnic,
and that Eva and Adam walk away and.

Speaker 10 (50:12):
Where's how did we get on that picnic? How are
we on a picnic?

Speaker 8 (50:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I'm leaving with miss Peedel and her boyfriend and yellow.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Yeah, somebody, how can we speak it?

Speaker 10 (50:21):
We snuck out here?

Speaker 8 (50:22):
Yeahs again serving the drama. We're just oblivious where we
need to be and very on it when we need
to be. But yes, you're there eating watermelon in the mustard.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
That part was good because you know, see me, it's hot.

Speaker 10 (50:37):
We got to sit around eat watermelon. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Running down the hill, as you know, it's all rocks
and gopher hole. Almost several times it was unpleasant.

Speaker 8 (50:44):
Now a location thing here, This is really fun at
the where they were. Adam and Eva walk up to
the pond. That's actually the little house right there, hinged
out of the frame frame right is right there if
they and of course it's all dressed with the lilies
and the whole thing, and I love it. It's just

(51:04):
dry as a bone fifty yards back. But they're there
by this pond. The spigott had been turned on. The
water is babbling down plumb Creek. And he proposes at
that point, and of course he calls himself a stupid
pig farmer, and Adam had or Yeah, Charlotte has to

(51:25):
sort of prop him up and tell him he's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Charlene is quite lovely.

Speaker 8 (51:30):
I mean, oh, Charlotte, it's a wonderful as she's wonderful.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Also, I'd like to add that Miss Beetle also had
her her you know, little plans of how should I'll
go to his house and I'll talk to him, yes,
right of course, and I also talk to the boy's father.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Yeah, and I love so. Then they get the proposal
in and there's a little kiss there and it's very sweet,
and Luca Nelly, you're watching, and Luke talks about the
fact I think my dad's getting ready to get married again.
He liked being married. He and my ma were so
happy together. It's is a really sweet thing, you know,
when you have a child watching his wants to see

(52:14):
his father be happy, knows that this is a good thing,
knows that he was always happy before. I think that's
a that's a nice thing.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
The stepmom, because it's Miss Bee, she's cool, Miss Beetle's wonderful,
she'll be fun and hey, they're a very loving, functional family.

Speaker 10 (52:31):
And I raised him alone, but he's been great with him.

Speaker 8 (52:34):
And then in the next breath, I think we should
get hitched, and you say, oh, I don't know if
I'm old enough, don't know if I know enough to
be a wife, and not sure if I'm good enough
for you.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
That sweet, because I have some brain cells left I know. No,
I'm not getting married you weirdo. And wait, I'm also
Nelly Elson. I just remembered, why are you marrying me?

Speaker 8 (52:58):
Yes? Well, no, I think it's I think you're being
a little hard on yourself there. I think you're really
that's like a real moment of honesty there where you're
saying I'm not sure I'm old enough I'm not sure
I know enough to be a wife. I know, and
I'm not sure I'm good enough for you.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I come from a dysfunction from my mother's taught me nothing.
I don't know how to cook or do any wafey stuff,
and I don't know, I have no idea. I come
from a bunch of disturbed, narcissistic lunatics.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
So maybe i'd be terrible in a marriage.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Eh, didn't he also say like nonsense, my mom was
younger than you, and yeah, no.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Exactly noah, which which then after after, after miss Beatle
has accepted or been proposed to, then there is the
wonderful scene in the school yard. It's a parallel scene
where you come and ask about marriage and she gives

(53:55):
you the advice, which or she's responding for herself, but
it's really for you. Sorry you awf we go.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Because she was what about my age, the age it
should make it?

Speaker 8 (54:05):
Yeah, love shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yes, when I was on the swing crying when she
did come to me, and I am again it's teenage seething.
I am a miserable teenager. There's the nelly fake crys,
really crying, and then there said, yeah, it's that that cry.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I'm going to like you you did something during with
that cry with your lower lip, and I was thinking,
does she have a retainer in her hide?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Embraces? Done?

Speaker 10 (54:38):
Wax all my braces?

Speaker 8 (54:39):
Did you think you get I could see it in
the in the side view. You can.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Lip like this, which might have just been tension from crying,
but but imbraces from.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Here to here and clear back, so the wax would
go like right here, right here, at across here, and
it was probably been we've been adding all day, you know,
So I'm which I had it there by that time.

Speaker 10 (55:01):
Of the day.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
And then yeah, and I didn't want it to show.

Speaker 10 (55:03):
And then also so yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Yeah, yeah, yes it was.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
It was very odd, but it also completely served the
It totally served the Yes. Yeah, okay, so we take
a break and when we come, well.

Speaker 8 (55:21):
We just did take it. We did take a break.
We took a break while you were taking a break.
So we're continuing, No, we're continuing on. So yeah that
it was a good break, but not as good as
it would have been if you'd been there.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Thanks, Ye, okay, So Willy ratted me out.

Speaker 10 (55:38):
Willy ratched me out.

Speaker 8 (55:40):
Yes, you've left.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
He eventually rats you out.

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I mean, he really didn't nobody out.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
Why didn't you tell us? You didn't ask me?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
He couldn't have cared less.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
He was probably happy ago.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
I just noticed in rewatching.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I don't even remember this at the time, if I
noticed at the time, when they say when they get
there and they left in our buckboard, we stole my parents,
Cary your guy, but we technically stole my mom's car
to do it, because we left with Yelson's buckboard.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
I stole my Barret's car.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
My high school boyfriend used to steal his parents car
and then come and pick me up, and I'd be paranoid.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. In New York, New Jersey,
in New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
In New Jersey, my husband stole his parents car but
got caught in the driveway.

Speaker 8 (56:38):
In the driveway, in his driveway, No, no, his driveway,
his driveway a teenage, that's right, when he was a kid.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
Paches are so dumb, y'all. They're so dumb.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
I mean, their brains do not form, and our brains
don't feel the form till we're twenty five.

Speaker 8 (56:55):
They're so dumb, which which which leads us to the
justice of the piece in sleepy eye and really one
of the wonderful fun scenes in this show, the getting
the yeah, the amerriage scene. So riot talk about let's
let's talk about Ivor Francis, who is really one of
the wonderful character accurates everything anytime.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
IMDb is like ten thousand pages.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
He was in everything.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
But what's really weird is if you look him up.
There was a television show in the nineteen sixties called
Here Come the Brides.

Speaker 10 (57:26):
It was really cute.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Bobby Shuman, I think, yes, the thing and Ivor was
in an episode of Here Come the Brides and his
name was Barnum. Do you know what he's credited as
his name being in this episode.

Speaker 10 (57:37):
Called Here Come the Brides?

Speaker 8 (57:39):
Varnum Varnum. That's right, that's Varnum.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yes, Michael Landon going, I don't what, wow, Wow.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
It's just it's it's such a funny and you know,
and and uh luke genius because you really didn't. You
didn't have much to say other than I do, but
played that per really really nicely.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
That that dumb the ring that you know, yes, put
the ring on this finger and say with this.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Stop that each other.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
No, he this was you know this was a little
gem piece of casting with this, with this actor, and
he got to play this runner. There were what three
back to back scenes where he's being woken up out
of a sound sleep. It's hilarious and it's very very solid,
and yeah between the two of you, and then Harriet

(58:41):
Harriet and Nell's and then the return for the annulment,
which is, well, we don't want to jump through the
we don't want to return for the annulment.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I mean the first ceremony okay, then talk about of
Luke and.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Nelly, which is hilarious.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Also this humor with the judge, all the judge scenes.
I mean again, I didn't know Michael Landon personally, but
it does sound like Michael Landon humor right, like completely
and utterly Michael Lindon jokes Michael Linden timing, Yeah, with
the comedy. Okay, so y'all get hitched, and again the

(59:20):
what do I do with the ring? Just put it
on this finger and say with this ring?

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Can you do that?

Speaker 11 (59:26):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I can?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
And he puts it on the judges. I'm like, and
then as soon as the ceremony is over, what happens?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
What do we do now?

Speaker 6 (59:40):
Hotel we're in that, We're.

Speaker 8 (59:41):
Going, We're going, We're getting a room.

Speaker 14 (59:43):
Bountchick About by eighteen hundreds version of About chick abow
Bow which is wow wah, which is David Rose kind
of doing the stripper kind of thing, and the was
going over the gorgeous antique screen, I beautiful, and then
the clothes going over.

Speaker 10 (59:57):
The thing, and then we're not go.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
We come out with this.

Speaker 10 (01:00:00):
Why am I so nervous?

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Because I wasn't too nervous when I said, you really yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
You really weren't nervous when he was like, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I was so not nervous all the way up to them.
But then it's like she is fifteen and it's like,
oh wait, I'm in a hotel room with a strange dudent.

Speaker 10 (01:00:14):
I'm married.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, wait what am I doing here? The panic sets it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
With the sleep cap on and yeah all that nothing
nothing sexy about this bedroom?

Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
He the srip my head that is hysterical with the
hair due the curls are up in my it's my
real haircut. Just tie my hair up in the little
rags like yeah, and then he's in the long john,
so yeah, we look really silly.

Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
Music is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Very silly music, romantic with a.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
Yeah, well with the jaw harp is just classic. And
then that tells you everything about where that wherever this is.

Speaker 10 (01:00:51):
But we're looking, We're gonna go through with it. We
do love each other, and I'm like, well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I guess this is it? Okay, thank and then the
door kicks in and she Cafin's greatest line in history.

Speaker 8 (01:01:02):
Make her a widow. Yeah, it's it's it's classic, and
then she has that. She has a couple of those
throughout the series. There are a couple of those kinds
of hysterical moments where she and Nell's are. I'm trying
to think there was one.

Speaker 9 (01:01:21):
There's a wonderful moment I think with with.

Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
Nell's In an episode, Dad's greer is in the scene
and she calls it Nell's a wretch and I but
it's the same energy. She brings, that same kind of
and they they wrestle with the gun and the gun
goes off.

Speaker 10 (01:01:42):
And them, yeah, we did we did it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
In the Keysia one, she starts screaming, shoot, shoot, and
I get to say, you've got the gun.

Speaker 10 (01:01:50):
I mean, it's like you that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
I also, I also want to take note maybe this
is this happened earlier when Nels and missus Olsen and
Harriet are in the bedroom and she says he does
another classic rhyming oh yeah, which she says, you never
had any taste, and he says you're right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
She says what he goes good night?

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yes does it? Those are hysterical. It is so hysterical.
I love this.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
Okay, So the gun goes up, he runs out.

Speaker 10 (01:02:26):
He runs, what are you doing in your long johns?

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Nice, nice nice, And we all go back in. That
poor man, that poor man is like, what wod you say?
What does Walter Grove have against me? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:02:41):
So then they all go in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
They get that was not a legal divorce, just tearing
about it.

Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
Sure was just tearing it up, but it's served might
not have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Been a legal wedding, was a legal divorce. But fifteen
is fifteen age of consent in eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Seventy four, I mean apparently maybe it must have been good.

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
Could could someone? I could someone have said yes? And
in eighteen eighty something at fifteen years old, I mean fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
I mean god, I think there's some states now we're
fourteen Karen's permission. I think which is like that, but there,
I don't know that and those days fifteen could have
absolutely been marriageable.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Yeah yeah, well I think there's no doubt that people
were married at that age.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
And maybe not a Minnesota. I don't know, but I
have to think. So was it a legal way to
begin with? And then it was an illegal norse? So
it's all like, well, it's all over.

Speaker 10 (01:03:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I committed big and me when I married Percival. I
don't know what's just to have it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
It might right, that might have a scandal, the secret scandal.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Well, okay, so he tears up the paper. But then
Adam Diva say, Adam.

Speaker 8 (01:03:43):
And Eva and I love that. Are you kidding me?
Adam and Eva? He go they, I mean, there's yet
another run of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
And here's my favorite line in the episode, which is
he's so Adam and you are getting married, and they say, Luke,
will you be my mess man?

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Nelly? Will you be my you know, made of honor?

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
And he goes, okay, you go here you go?

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
Here?

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Where do I go?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
He goes, you don't want to know?

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
Is where you? Where would you like me to go?

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
And stay? I died too.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
I literally on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
And then my beautiful and now ex husband we sneak
and hold hands.

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
Yes, you're holding hands by which is a lovely moment.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
And then we never see him again.

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
Yes, now was that the end entered.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
The vortex y'all way with wife and one short leg
shorter the other.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
The other. Yeah, he's in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
That vortex of one hit wonders on the prairie.

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
That stuttering girl she moved in with him too, I guess,
But it's you know, it's it's it's a very once
that there's and everyone's very amicable. This marriage has just
taken place. There's hugging, kissing, fade to black, I mean,
and happy. That's the end and end credit, And there
are there are episodes that do end that way where

(01:05:14):
you literally get the moment that you're looking for and
it's over.

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
Yeah, that was it, we got all.

Speaker 8 (01:05:22):
That was it.

Speaker 15 (01:05:22):
But all the moments do we ever see because Miss
Beatles is still I mean, she finishes out season four,
she turns into missus Sims and then do we ever
see him?

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
I don't think we ever see him.

Speaker 10 (01:05:37):
We don't ever see him again.

Speaker 8 (01:05:40):
Why that would have that would have been? That would
have been, well, look, it's a budgetary.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
We didn't need it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:47):
You're just not going to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Just didn't want to give them any more.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
Yeah again, but to not see and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Their agents quite rightly would have said, wow, is he
a recurring now husband Oh and then so it wouldn't
have been a one episode pay or a day player
or a guest star fee. It would neib been a
ghost would be significantly more money.

Speaker 8 (01:06:10):
And he could have been Look, he could have been recurring.
Kevin Hagen was recurring.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
They did that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:14):
A lot of regulars were, which.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
Is amazing, which he was recurring. He never had a contract,
Like I don't know Kevin Hagen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
And everybody, I think, like half the town because when
they first started, this isn't going anywhere, and like, do
you want to sign a contract?

Speaker 10 (01:06:30):
Why don't you just be recurring people?

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
So that was was that a point of contention with
those actors?

Speaker 16 (01:06:36):
Worse, it was I mean, that's crazy, Kevin said at
the time, he thought, oh sure, because they didn't think
it was gonna go anywhere initially, and it was like,
do you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Do a whole contract on how many years and be
tried to or would you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
Like to be recurred because remember their character actors and
they worked all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Of course, at the time, Kevin said, yes, when I
first did it, oh, yeah, we don't need all that.
I'll be recurring because ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
He says.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Then after a couple of years, was like, that wasn't
really such a good decision. Maybe, And then he said,
one hundred years later, he went, what was an idiot?
Why did I not ask man?

Speaker 10 (01:07:09):
I asked for contract? We kept with recurring.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I should have insisted on contract day one when they
had a chance at it, because it would have made significantly.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Knowing what we know, I wonder actually what his real
chances of getting a contract, I think it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
Would have been very minimal, very fine. Yeah. I think
that Michael had a very very particular set of standards
about all of that, and everything was based on call
sheet numbers. Yeah, and uh, and that's you know, those contracts.

(01:07:43):
Those contracts were very very few, very.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Kevin talked about that, you know, and there was like
an inquire thing like, oh, I didn't make enough money,
and he's like, no, I didn't want it to be mean.
I'm just saying he said, yeah, he should have paid
you more. Money says, but I also I'm the idiot
who went, oh, yeah, that's a great idea. I'll be recurring,
he said. I thought that made sense, and I was
really wrong, and I needed for future young people get the.

Speaker 8 (01:08:04):
Contract and with that, and with that, with the with
the with the Adam Simms disappearing into the vortex, that's
our time. I think we need to we need to
run for the exit. There, yes, happily.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
After he did.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Okay, I loved this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
This was so much fun at visiting this episode, Alison,
you rock.

Speaker 8 (01:08:29):
So I did really just outstanding, really outstanding, and it
just works and works and works.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
And on Patreon youal we took details details.

Speaker 8 (01:08:38):
Oh we'll talk, We'll talk more.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
All right, all right, everybody, that's it for this week's episode.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Bob get the wig let's fly

Speaker 7 (01:09:08):
To pigs.