"THE CAMPOUT" recap!

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Speaker 6 (02:32):
Well. Hello, Hello, Hello bonnet heads, how are you.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
This is Pamela Bob, your host. I am the creator
of living on a prairie Do Do Do Do, And
I am here with our wonderful prairie bitch. That's right,
Alison Aringram.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Hello, Alison, and I'm are you.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
I didn't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
What you're just greeting?

Speaker 8 (02:53):
Everyone?

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Yes, okay, I'll move on. And now we're.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Also here with our hashtag imaginary boyfriend, Dean Dean the
Man Machine, Dean Butler.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
How are you Dean?

Speaker 9 (03:08):
Indeed, it used to be called Dean Dean the Dancing Machine.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
At one point.

Speaker 9 (03:13):
Oh uh yeah, I don't know why because that would
have been a misnomer. Uh anyway, Yeah, Hi, welcome, Welcome everybody.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
What's going on you guys?

Speaker 8 (03:26):
Nicknames? Yeah, no nicknames? Nicknames aside?

Speaker 9 (03:30):
I know, Allison, you're still you're still touring the country
the countryside of France? Or are you back in Paris?

Speaker 8 (03:38):
Where are you now?

Speaker 7 (03:39):
I am currently in Paris. The mouse is the mouse?
Is the mouse? Suspect? Listen?

Speaker 6 (03:46):
She likes to free the mouse because the mouse is.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
There five apartments on this floor, And I said, why
does this mouse not?

Speaker 7 (03:54):
Does she go into the neighbor's apartments? No, just this
one and was seen coming actually coming in and out
of the door. She's just who comes. So the mouse
is back. I have one more show left and it's
in Belgium. I'm going to Belgium this weekend.

Speaker 8 (04:07):
That's such a pretty country. Belgium is so beautiful. I
mean on the parts of it I've seen are beautiful.
It's just the countryside is just you know, Bucolic. It's
just incredible.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
And the people are fab The people are fab they
and they're big. Every region of France and Europe it
has a favorite character from the show. It's for some
reason in eastern France. And also so a lot of
people like Nancy I have and they love Percival in Belgium.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Okay, Belgium are smart people, very smart people.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I love Nancy too. You know, I never had an
issue with Nancy. I was intrigued by Nancy.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Also.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
I know no one can replace Nelly, but that came
damn close. I think for a replacement character. I think
it worked in my book. It worked because she is
so good.

Speaker 9 (05:00):
Being so she was you have to give her a
lot of She waded into it fully.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
There was no yeah, there was no no halfway with with.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
Alison exactly what she was doing.

Speaker 9 (05:15):
You know, I used to do I did for a
period of time. I did telethons with Allison where she
where she wanted to sing, you know, and so and.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
That, Yes, I know she's a singer, but she wanted
to sing, Okay, but she was Yeah.

Speaker 9 (05:29):
So she was singing then, and we went on telethons
and saying when I'm sixty four and you know, those
kinds of things.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
It was very you know, it was uh, she was
very cute and very you know, very driven. Uh.

Speaker 9 (05:43):
And you know, now we've just we've had very little
contact now and I think we you know, we we've
certainly had we've had contact, but we need to get
her involved in some of the things that we are doing.
And we should have her a guest as a guest
on this because this would be something she could because
she doesn't have to travel anywhere.

Speaker 8 (06:01):
She could do it from wherever she is.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I think that's why she she we didn't see her
for it. She was working like cruise and stuff.

Speaker 8 (06:08):
That's what she did.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
I need to see she's footage from these telethons.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
When when I met her return of Nelly, she flat
out said I didn't want to copy you because she's
I grew up watching it. She was all of eleventh,
you know, to take her and she said.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I don't want to copy. I couldn't do the same thing. So,
you know, you work like bitchy. So I went with
psychotic and she did it. Really she chose to go
with that.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
She I mean when when when uh, and I know
we've talked about this, when Katherine McGregor is looking at
her sort of like a skance wondering what have I
gotten myself into? That sort of told you everything about
how well she was doing what she was doing, because
Catherine was just responding, She just responded to what she got. Sure, wow,

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I mean this this Alison brought everything, brought the kitchen
sinket and and I think Catherine really really appreciated.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
Oh I'm sure she loved a lot to work with. Yeah, yes,
fire girl.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
What their you know, their off screen working relationship was
because I was good, I could imagine it was great.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah fun. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (07:22):
So So in addition to okay, so we could we
need to talk, we need to get Alison Balson on.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
I think that would be having you together. Uh, you know,
dissecting Nellie Nancy.

Speaker 9 (07:34):
We we announced in a previous show we have we
have launched the an event in Columbia, California, which will
be June sixth, seven and eight of this year. Tickets
are available at Little House Country, Little housegold Country dot com,
which will take you to tickster where you can buy tickets,

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and I will say just uh anecdotally, tickets are selling.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Very I bet I bet, I bet.

Speaker 9 (08:02):
So we're very pleased and we are about to add
another component to the event that we think we think
that Little House fans are going to flip over, so
that announcement will be coming within the next forty eight hours.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Okay, I don't even know what this announcement is.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
You guys give the hanger and Allison, do you know
what it is?

Speaker 7 (08:25):
Do you know an email? Okay, disgusting it?

Speaker 8 (08:29):
Yes, you know what it is.

Speaker 9 (08:30):
So I think it's Yeah, I think it's going to
be awesome. We don't want to talk about it because
we don't have it cleared yet, but we are.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
Everyone who needs to prove it on our side has
approved it. Now we're working out the business with It's
really an insurance issue more than anything else.

Speaker 7 (08:49):
We just have to always.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
Fully insured to add and then we can do it.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Read my favorite, You'll get the news, Okate, I won't
tell anyone.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
I promise Favorite.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
You know their perks are being in this circle that
I get to hear the inner news.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
But yeah, I still don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
But okay, good, great, Well Today today we're recapping an
episode all about the.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
Ingles and the Olson family.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Use I will keep that as a cliffhanger for now,
but first.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
That, yeah, what would it be?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
But first produced in the studios of ubn Go and Bourbank, California.
This you know what it is. It's the Little House
fiftieth Anniversary podcast. Okay, Dean Dean, Dean Man Machine. What

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episode are we I like that you blush when I
say it.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
I'm bouncing on all right.

Speaker 9 (10:07):
Today we are talking about episode nine from season two,
The camp Out, and I think this episode is significant
for a number of reasons. And Allison knows this episode encyclopedically.
I know she's going to The camp Out premiere on
October eighth, nineteen seventy five. It was written by Jerry Day,

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directed by William F. Claxton, who and you know, the
more I'm watching I'm on this journey watching episode Now.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Wait, have you not seen this episode before?

Speaker 8 (10:40):
I had, but I definitely watched it again yesterday.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
So Allison, I gave you two synopsies of this, but
you probably have a different spin on this.

Speaker 7 (10:55):
Because there's so much in this episode.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Indeed, the obvious one is miss Bedla signs a leaf
gathering who signs a leaf gathering charge? Marry and Laura
are excited to find unique leaves on an upcoming camping.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Trip with the family.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Harriet convinces Quote Badgers really Nells to take Nelliot w
Me along on the trip.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
And test the limit of congeniality, which he decides to
join in camp big Adventure.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
While there are predictable tensions, everyone survives just barely thinking,
and the two.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Families come to have a deeper respect for one another.
For a moment a moment seconds Version two.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
In spite of our Rockey starting over, Charles strong objections
the Olson's a company the Ingles on a family camping trip,
and surprisingly, the off feuding families begin to enjoy each
other's company.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
But will the warming relationship between them.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Survive a cold lunch into a rushing river and Willie's
rash decision out out that's growth super grown.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
To his collection, the one Mary won't dutch. Yikes.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
Okay, let's let's just dive right in.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
And I'm gonna start it off by saying by saying, so,
miss Beetle gives this project right to like collect leaves
and the angles are going on a camping trip to
experience nature.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Now here's the thing. They live in the wilderness. They
live in the wilderness. They are out in the middle,
in the middle, they have nature. That's all they have, right,
That's that's.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
All they got. What is going on? What did you
do last night? It is?

Speaker 9 (12:53):
It is interesting, but you know what, it does speak
to the fact that everybody needs a little change.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
So this was yes, so this was the this was
the vacation that was crafted.

Speaker 9 (13:03):
It certainly opened the door to lots of hijinks, which
is which is great.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
I mean, it's a wonderful idea.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yes, it was a device, Yes it was. Yes, Logically
it makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
It makes excuse is fishing excuses fishing because it starts
with Charles wanting to go fishing and oh, hey.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
Bring the kids. So fishing, legitimately, when you're living in
a cabin and cooking over an open fire and kind
of slipping against fishing is the new thing that would
be added. So you go, oh, that'll be fun. We'll
be up in the mountains where on the flats. We'll
go to the mountains, which is three states away, the mountains.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
Where you would have gone back to the Big Woods
to get that sure where.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, so it's a little confusing there, but fishing is
sort of the Oh, fishing is the sort of premise
and then the idea though that it's exciting because it's gimping.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
Yeah, what except missus all the screw like, why heck
does missus when missus all goes off into this dream
work goes when Papa who's to take us? You can
watch the boats, but she's like, oh the regatta. When
she said, you know, she was glamping.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
When she says camping, she meant they want to like,
there's summer ramping, right, and brought them a hawk coco
while they.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Watched the boats.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, but she's talking about but when she goes off
into spaces and Fallow would take us a bit, I
was dying. So she has a whole vision of camping
that is not camping either.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
You know what's what's wonderful about this.

Speaker 9 (14:41):
I mean, there are many wonderful things about this episode,
and Allison, you're in a better position to comment on what.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
I want to hear all about it.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
This, my sense is from my my many conversations with
Catherine over the years. This ep so was really where
she began to seriously mine the comedy.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
Well, it's so slapstick in this episode. Also, this is.

Speaker 9 (15:12):
Where she bit down on missus Olsen's foolishness as she
likes to as she liked to characterize from being the
meme lady to being a foolish lady in the interest
of her survival in the cast.

Speaker 8 (15:29):
So, she didn't want to become so.

Speaker 9 (15:30):
Hateful that she would be killed off. She wanted to
be an essential element in this as much as as
much as she Catherine did. You know, she had privately,
not publicly, but privately there were lots of complaints about you.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Know what this was and everything in general. Yes, I
mean Catherine, Catherine liked to complain.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
It was part of her energy, but she really I
think she loved playing this character and she was looking
for ways to make the character more fun and this
episode opened that door. For her, and she walked through
it like she blasted through that door.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
So what came first her?

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Do you think she said I want there, I want
to bring more comedy into this or do you think
she was starting to do it and the writers went, oh,
let's write a really comedic episode.

Speaker 8 (16:24):
I think that's what I think that that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
The writers recognize that the kind they saw her coming
with this.

Speaker 7 (16:31):
It starts to yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
She also liked this episode because in making her not
a monster likability, she and mongles and mongs that they
started that.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
She becomes sympathetic.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
She is really worried that Nelly Baby has drowned, and
she for a moment freaks.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Out that maybe something has happened to the children.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
And she all the way to the end, now.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
I should but she is sympathetic in this episode. She
is sympathetic for two minutes, but she is sympathetic. She
is sympathetic, and then she's fricking hilarious.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, early in the episode, the eating with her talking
with her mouthful at the table when we're dining.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
That's maybe the first time she does thee with the
food in the mouth. Thaka. This is really what else.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
I want.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
I want to eat dinner at the Olsens.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I don't want to eat with the Olsens.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
I just want to eat at the Olsens because their
dining room is gorge the china pattern lovely, the food fantastic.

Speaker 7 (17:31):
But they're all animates. They're all are.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
We ungrateful animals.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Fished on the knife, and we're all going on, we're
all terrible. We have like Richard Bocion with any manners
at that table.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Food Alison typically at the Olsen dinner, what what was the.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
I was looking at this one and I couldn't cook her.
I think we were having chicken that night.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Because we're having chicken, we tended to have roast beef,
roast lamb, hot roast lamb, chop slam leg of lamb,
and little lamb.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Actually made and prepared for these.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
It's entire The prop Man had a kitchen, yes, okay,
that the Alson food. I've always had to talk about that.
The prop Man, our lovely Prophet had an entire kitchen
in little prop area, full kitchen.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I could do a cooking show in it, and sometimes
for food they would go and.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Order stuff in.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know, chili it's from Chasin's and then indeed, yes,
if it was, they were all mad for chasin Oh no,
we were getting Chasin's chili they were obsessed with. So
wren't really easy and it looked hardy. But those biscuits
on the table, those are those, those are pills. Very yeah,
they're like the I think they were calling them eighteen

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hundreds grand. I mean now they're just called grants, but
they were actually called eighteen hundreds grands when they came
out in the seventies because they had that eighteen hundred
old biscuit look and they were like perfect. So they
gotten they got those, they would throw in a roast,
they would throw go to the store and they'd throw
in a whole thing, a beef or a legal lamb,
or a chicken or a thing or a ham.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
And we had all this ham and beef and it
was pretty heavy. And the lovely new potatoes they were canned.
I saw the can they with the little canned new potatoes.
But they'd pop.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
They come a little bit of parsley, pop them in
a pop, heat them up, throw little parsley on them.
So new potatoes, and then some kind of fabulous vegetable,
and there was always like mint jelly or you know,
apple sauce or whatever was the condiment the thing for sure,
and I always drank my milk.

Speaker 7 (19:27):
And the deal was as always in TV, you had
to be careful how much ach is.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
If you ate too much, then you got to match
a shot and it just becomes a nightmare of which
thing to so you kind.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
Of just pushing around around on you.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Take little bites of things and shove things around on
your plate. But they would refill and when we were done,
if if I was good, and I always was, I
would go to the prop man and say may I
and they go, yes, you can't, and they would bring
me a full plate of whatever it was, the mashed
potatoes and the rest which was always or the chasing

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the chili or the biscuits or the the.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
You know.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
Is that Elizabeth Taylor, wherever she was in the world,
would order Chasin's Chili to be flown in to where.
Oh yeah, that was always the story about Elizabeth.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Taylor and the recipe.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
My dad had the recipe, and my dad that good stuff.

Speaker 8 (20:23):
I am.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
I'm a freak for chili Johns. I'm the Elizabeth Taylor
of chili Johns. In Burbank. I want that stuff everywhere
I go. I like it, Chili John's, Chili.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Johns, and then apparently they're having fundraisers, they're having trouble
staying up and so I'm probably gonna like show up there,
and I may go down to Chili John's and throw
like an autograph thing and go, I'm signing photos at
Chili John's.

Speaker 7 (20:43):
I may just go do that to like. I freaking
love Chili Johnson, obsess with Chili Johns, so please stay
with it.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
But yeah, I'll come and eat chili there. I love
chill that's.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Come and eat chiliang age a whole like put it
on TikTok or some.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Well turns the thing.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
We'll go to Chili John's. But yeah, the the mercantile
was always freaking fabulous. We've scrambled eggs, breatha slab and
it was always delicious. And I was always hungry. So
if we shot and we shot like right before lunch,
I would get a.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Whole apartment, woul give me a whole light load of
food and I would eat it. Yeah, No, it was
always delightful. It was always like yay dinner.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Scene right Catherine's choice of sort of aggressively sort.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
Of still eating.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
It's just so ungrateful and so it's.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Just so awful.

Speaker 8 (21:28):
Catherine, Catherine understand perfect.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
She was playing pretention in like massive qualities of pretentiousness.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Is what is what I mean?

Speaker 9 (21:38):
You could always see when Catherine always had the finger up,
one of.

Speaker 8 (21:41):
The tailtale signs of someone who is not who is trying.
But this is not what you did.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
She's as piggy.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's the I want to make it look
like my family were wealthy and classy, and I'm I
might be related to royalty, but she's vulgar as all
get out, and yeah.

Speaker 9 (22:02):
I'm just gonna I was just gonna say. It's so
interesting because Catherine was very very clear about the fact
that there was nothing, there was nothing exceptional about her
family upbringing, that her mother, her mother was apparently massively pretentious,

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but she always said they had nothing, but life came from.

Speaker 8 (22:28):
This is where it came to all of that.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
H Yes, and her parents were terribly snobby and dirt
boor and awful and apparently.

Speaker 9 (22:38):
Apparently her father, Frank stepfather was just sort of a
guy who would you know, take his dirty boots and
put them up on the table.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
I mean he was he was a railroad guy, and.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
She got the way she answered the phone, Well, she
said they got a phone.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Remember she was older. They got a phone. It was
a new thing. And her father hello, and her mother
will go, they can hear you. It's a phone. You
don't have to get So she said, no, the whole
wall of grove. That's her dad. She's like, so Catherine,
Catherine took everything.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
It was all organic and so so then she's like,
I for come.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
With you and I will cook breakfast.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
To reaction to that, I mean, he's thinking he's going
to get three days away and he suddenly it's like,
oh my god, it was a wonderful. So many Richard's reactions,
his reactions are just priceless.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, what's so funny is that she so manipulates him
because he knows it's wrong to ask them if they
can tagle. He knows it's wrong, he knows it's he
knows it's unnecessary. And the way she manipulates him, and
at first he's very against it, and then he just
slowly comes around and she is just tweet tweak, tweaking.

Speaker 9 (23:55):
Well, it all starts with with Nelly of course in
the classroom, accused, accusing the of having an unfair advantage
in this.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
I started it, I start, I always started. I started.
That's the whole problem. It's if their Paul always does
stuff with them. I mean it's yeah, yeah, they get
well it's unfair. They will have it on her leg
and they're always gets to go. You know I started this?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yes, missus Olsen is twisting the knife and making Nels
do the who started it?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Now? What's so surprising to me is that when Nels
asked Charles, hey can we tag along?

Speaker 6 (24:29):
And Charles is more than.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Happy to welcome these two horrible children who he knows
his children do not like. And I'm like, damaged pap,
Like that's not cool, not cool.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
You might be okay what you're doing?

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (24:49):
And if you watch, he's sitting there, what what the
hell is that? I have to look at up.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
It's a drill press. It was in eighteen electricity making
holes in something. It's a thing and you turn those
big old wheels and it goes and you can drill
holes like metal and everything.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
He's drilling holes in something. It is a drill press.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
No, they always pulled out they had this wonderful collection
of period tools. I mean, I don't know where they
you know, you know that they showed he had everything amazing.

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Get you think of that bar spaceship and he was
able to go like empty. I mean, I'm sure there
are places.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
Dan Wilson, Yeah they had After a weekend, I bet.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
They the man talked about that. They like, oh look
what we found. It was, Yeah, they.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
Searched out stuff from everywhere.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
They're telling the girls guessing.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
They're like, no, no, this is a terrible idea. And
Mom's like, well, you know, fellowship.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
God just you know God.

Speaker 9 (25:56):
Well, and of course Charles was fine with it until
he realized that she Will was coming along and.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
He had to put his foot down somewhere.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
And then of course Caroline, as she always does, has
to remind him of the things that he said hoisted.
They're walking, and now they're walking, and that's how it begins.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
And they are hiking, and first of all, it looks
impossibly hot. I mean it just like that sun looks
so hot, and these poor women in their frickin' petticoats
having to hike through mountains and valleys, and I can't.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Imagine how bad.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Their bloomers were smelling, and it doesn't it horrible to.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
I mean looking at looking at her, looking at Captain
McGregor with the corsina, and he's just like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Missus also mentioned all the sabova in her luxury camping
recollectric and by god, she's got one. She has a
whole tea set and a silver thing falled all. He
loved that scene, you know, because he he grew up
with farm people in a way back into his knee.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
He's always a relative like that. She's brought the whole
ty set with her, hasn't, So yes, he loved that
the people bring the whole ty set with them camping
and she falls over with the whole thing. And it
was just for the record.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And I remember Laura and Mary had those little like
boot things, so they had some protection.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
I had Mary Jane, so yes, it was bad. I
didn't have.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Boots till I was fifteen sixteen and got like the
other outfit and they were the little white boots.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
I didn't have a little white boots were Mary Jane.
So every and every rock and thing and bird and
it was back. It's terrible thunderbirds they could.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Find right outside their own homes.

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yes, and it's really because Willie's like that.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Nelly and Willie are like.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
No, we can't find these leaves here.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
It's different over there. I'm like, really, how far do
you think they went to this hike?

Speaker 7 (27:56):
How about.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Hike took place in Sonora.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
It was quite a hike that bro It started in Yeah, okay.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
Well they described this. You sort of get the sense
in the way that it's talked about is this is
like a four or five hour hike.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (28:18):
And they drove in the wagon and then they.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
They were walking the whole time. There was no driving
the wagon.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
I mean, there's didn't take the wagon out.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
And then horses are the horses have the one horse
has bags on them.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
It's a wash.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
They walk to walk in fact, well, okay, if you
were to say, now, now, of course the leaves in
Cebe Valley, California, up the north, maybe there's a difference,
but yeah, these people are still in Minnesota, so I
don't know. But underbrush it was gorgeous up there. Also,

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we were always trying to find clubs. We had so
much fun for us. It was the camp of us
kids filming this.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
But like we are at the camp.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
We were the woods and we and we did go
fishing and I did go trout fishing and it was amazing.
And I have a picture at home somewhere the album
Miami Mary Took and it's we all at some point
somebody found a four leaf clover and everybody lost their
minds and started going into this field.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
And there's a shot and it's Michael.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Landon on his hands and knees, just kind of to
the distance in this gigantic field of clover, crawling around
and trying trying to find the four leaf Clover's freaking hilarious.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
And I have that. So we were ever, people were grown,
people were crawling around going I had a fur leaf.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
It was wonderfully silly. We were camping, We had we
had a campound that it was lovely.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
Well you know that.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
So you see what we love about this is that
it's Nell's constantly concerned about Harriet, and Harriet so uncharacteristically,
I know, putting her best.

Speaker 7 (29:53):
Foot for i know, being really lovely.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
Wanting to be the camping woman.

Speaker 9 (29:59):
She sort of kind of before that, you know, I
think the here's where the comedy happened. I don't think
that the fall back into the into the stream was
in the script.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
At at least.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
That's the sense that I got from her, is that
they saw this opportunity, she and Bill Claxton working on
this moment, and she said, I'd like to fall back
into this.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I would not put that past her that, yes, that
is the thing she would do. Yes, she would say.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
To be used anyway.

Speaker 9 (30:38):
I mean it's like, yeah, or maybe if the t
service was going to be used, okay, suddenly that part
of a scene went away.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
It was the fallback was too good to turn down.
And I think this was the beginning.

Speaker 9 (30:51):
Is that people that the writers saw in that moment
that she was willing to do things that now she'd
already gotten slap with the branch by Willie that you know,
the third time. But the falling back into the river
was a was definitely a heightened.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Play.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
And a woman who could do chilly evil to be
able to flip to complete slapstick, I mean she could
do it.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Girl could do yeah, she really could.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
And she was being really lovely too.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I mean she wasn't she wasn't losing it in front
of everyone entirely.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which makes it ten
times funnier. All right, now we do it.

Speaker 9 (31:36):
Weieves because okay, we've got that, but let's talk about
the leaves after they arrive at the spot, because we
got to get to the poison ivy thing, because.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
This and then we're going to get in that damn river.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Well yeah, because Willia and Nelly are horrible and mean
and terrible, and then they and they snatched the leaves
out of their hands. I mean, they're truly the worst.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
They're the worst.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
I'd be the ugly on the prairie.

Speaker 7 (32:03):
Were like, it's just awful.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
And then they stumble upon a beautiful leaf, soft and
fuzzy and lovely. And what they don't know is that
it is, in fact poison ivy, which Laura and.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It would actually be, yes, poison oak was because there's
there's poison ivy, poison oak. Oh my god, I can't
remember the other one, but there's multiple one and poison
ivy and poison i'mvy tenth more East Coast thing.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
I know, I'm here in.

Speaker 8 (32:32):
Poison ivy up there.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
But this was cons the fuzzy leaf. It was like Morris,
it was the one of the sumacs on California.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
It's all about the poison oak, which is just as
horrible for you as but but it will do the
same thing. But it would be the big fuzzy leaf
to suppose to the shiny other way.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, so that's what and of course will lead
an idiot, and of course he wants them an actor.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
Marry and Laura go no, no, do not take the leaf.
The leaf is bad, It's is poison. They tell him
not to end, but.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
No, he rushed Allison, if you're recall, he looks at it,
knows exactly what it is and backs away, and Willie,
seeing that she left this.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
Behind, rushes right into it.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
Mary never even has a chance to stop him, she
tells him, but he doesn't care, doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
They try to stop him, and he does not care.
Warn other people are running away.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
From the leaves, going no, no, no, don't do it.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
And we actually it was aside to Laura after the fact,
where she's she's going to regret it because that's poison, right.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Exactly exactly what it is.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Also the panoramic cinematography of the beautiful mountains of Minnesota.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
Yes you can see prairie.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
I told her and they went to Colorado. I don't
but I don't go.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
There's a there's a shot later in the episode where
they're walking along by the river and Laura's grabbing a
leaf and you can see over her shoulder Jonathan's Mountain
right behind her. So if they were shooting in that
same yes.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
It is very clearly Jonathan's son.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Yes, for sure.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Okay, and then they keep the kids keep going, they
keep going alerts, leaf searching, and Laura and Nellie end
up together walking.

Speaker 8 (34:24):
Let's take a break before we get to that.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
Okay, Yes, because we have river story itself, so let's talk.
We will talk about the river. The river is the thing.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
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Speaker 4 (35:29):
Okay, we're back. So right before the river scene happens,
you know they have caught fish.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
The men have caught fish.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Missus Olsen insists on cooking the fish to be a
very ascuote and dutiful wife doing her womanly wifely duties
and also wanting to one up Carolyn.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
But uh burns all the fish.

Speaker 7 (35:50):
You know, things are going great for missus Olsen.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
What I was going to say, there's a wonderful dynamic
here that we hadn't scene. I don't think Nellison you
can comment on this better that there was a really
nice collegiality between Nell's and Charles in this episode.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
You see that there is a you know, a mutual.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
Respect and understanding, a sympathy perhaps on Charles parkcorst He
gets it. And they have these moments together walking along
by the river talking about fishing, and you know how
she Nell's talks about how Harriet always had everything and
was privileged, and there's a good laugh over that, and
then the burn fish. Charles offers to share some of

(36:35):
his fish, and Nell's not wanting to throw Harriet under
the bus, but starving is willing to take share that
takes some of charles fish. There's just there's a nice
moment there.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Organ nice from the beginning of the episode too, when
Nells comes to Charles's place.

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Where he's drill where he's drilling with the thing and
tries to.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
Talk very lovely buddy.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
He wants to be one of Charles's buddies, even though
he isn't really.

Speaker 7 (37:05):
That kind of guy. It would be doing those kind
of things, but he'd like to, and they like each other,
and carolinea course.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Is being properly nice to Harriet. So everyone's sort of trying.
Everyone is trying.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Yeah, and also build out missus Olsen and covering for
her that she made her tent all by herself even
though she which was which was, and you could see
Harriet Olsen really really appreciated it. It was also the
sort of lovely moments. There are moments Catherine has in

(37:38):
this episode where I mean it's high, high comedy, but
it's also super grounded beautiful realism as well, which is
really nice to see her do both of them. But anyway,
we now continue with dun dun du.

Speaker 8 (37:55):
Is it a river?

Speaker 7 (37:56):
The rapids?

Speaker 9 (37:59):
So it starts as uh, I mean, there's some definitely
some movement of the river.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
But yes, when I.

Speaker 9 (38:04):
Love that Nelly looking for a leaf reaches for leaf,
I mean, inexplicably you got to have a device for this,
and you fall into the river and Laura is there
and you're clinging to this thing, and of course the
cleaning to it.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
So tell us about.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
Tell us everything this, I have tailed things. So this
first of all, it's.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
The fabulous, beautiful and highly dangerous Stanislaus.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
River in California, beautiful gardens.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
People go rafting all the time, okay, and it's the
thing where to reach out.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Of course, Fawley Lord tries to save me.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Think now, why are we on a clump of bushes
and not like a log or a thing.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
What is happening?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Why is it all the way there? It's insanely dangerous.
There was a group of raptors. We even saw some
people who were out shooting the rapids. A bunch of
people in their black wetsuits and the little orange like
life that's the big raft in the second raft with
like their camping geared. And they later hit an area
where some of them went in the water, and we

(39:03):
read about two of them didn't make it.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
They were all hurt very badly, and he did not survive.
It was, yes, it was that bad. You don't see people, Yes,
that happened that weekend. Yes, people, We then make it.
It's the chainly dangerous.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
River because it's cold, it's deeper than it looks, it's
colder than you think, and the current is stronger than
you think. And that's where they kept telling us girls,
grown men have gotten in this river and their feet
got out from under them, and the cold hits you
in the chest. That's why you wet suit and you
go and you can't bring because it's too cold to tighten.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Oh my gosh, they don't you know, they.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Don't go off from the mountains.

Speaker 7 (39:37):
It's really cold water and it's a super powerful river
and people, they said, people under estimate this river all
the time, and it's with bad results. So we're like,
and we're twelve and fourteen, choose that one. So they said,
here's what's happening.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
First, they said, before we got there, we're hearing stories
about a log.

Speaker 7 (39:53):
And in the script there was a log.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
They had log built because there's the disaster and we
we almost lost, like wrong, Shiniky and the Dan de
prop men because they built a log.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
They ordered a log whoever they sent the order to.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
So it's like styrofoam, big freaking styrofoam spray painted log.
And they said, put in a weight, a thing of lead,
you know, on the bottom to create a center.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Yeah, dumb ass. We'll just say, dumb ass.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Put the core of lead in the middle, middle, not
to side, the middle of so.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
You just had a really heavy log.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And Shiniky and I guess they went out and they
were all in their wet suits, went and tried this
log out and that sucker rolled over on the stuntmen
and the men are working.

Speaker 7 (40:41):
With it, and they almost had a very sad story.
They almost like were like that and they were like,
what the hell. So they went log bye bye, go
bye bye. Log. Okay, okay, okay, it's a.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Clump of bushes because we just get an interns was
just get it an inner to we cover the thing
and bushes. Everybody's say, it'll be fabulous, but we have done.
So they get the bushes in her toom and they're like,
what the hell is that all about. Then they said, okay,
we'll have the stunt women do this part. We'll have
the girls do this part. We'll do this that well,
can we have them go over the I don't know.

Speaker 7 (41:09):
We have them the dummies.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
We'll have some dummies too for the re So they
get the dummies and they have the fake fake dummies
all dressed up in the clothes, and they said, let's
try this thing out. If they could have them go
over not the fall, yes fall a wrap it and
they said the thing and they went to the waterfall
and they went and it smashed and the heads came
off the dummies, and they said, maybe we should not

(41:32):
take the twelve and fourteen year little girl and strap
them to it and throw them over that waterfall. Maybe not,
maybe not, So they decided not to do that part.
So they said, okay, we're going to do this part.
You will be in the river where it is, but
it'll be as you're like, we have a couple of
stunt girls in the distance, and then you guys close
up and you will be in the river. You will
have to wear the wet suits because that cold water

(41:53):
will hit your little chest and you'll go and you'll
die and it'll be back. So we'll have the wet
suits and then your clothes over the wet suits, and
you're gonna hang on this thing. It's not gonna be
real deep. You're gonna swim a little, it's gonna float
a little. And we've got people leaving the bushes everywhere,
and then you kind of got to get yourself from
the thing of bushes to the shore. It's a few feet,
but yeah, the current could knock you off your feet.

(42:14):
So we have precautions in place. So it's just like,
try not to screw this up and get hurt. We're like, okay,
so they said you just have to get from here there.
So the part we're holding the raft, we're not going anywhere.
It's great, but you need water splashing. It took a
fire huts, like a yeah, and to put part into
the water with a pump and the other end on you.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
Took the nozzle off, so it's just fire hose and
went schlort. And that's why worldwide.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
But when that was happening, you were all of water.
But that when that was happening, you weren't necessarily moving.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
That was sort of still basically yet with the yes.
And so this was where they basically waterboarded us. Said here,
hang on this wrap while we dumped several gallons of
water directly on there. So we're like, so we survived that,
it did and we did it really well. We didn't stop,

(43:14):
they didn't cut, we didn't go like no, we just
kept going. And so then we said, okay, here's the
hard part. Girls. You have to get from here to here.
And that was the fun scene I talked about the books.
Was amazing. They said, now there there, do not panic.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
But if God forbid you lose your footing and you
do fall in the river, it is kind of bad.
Now you'll see that the boys and there's there's there's
the guys. There's running running Carter Relly our grip and
all the fellas, all the guys we love standing there
in wet suits hiding in the bushes with the rope
and the life preserver, and said, you will be grabbing
these guys if they do not catch.

Speaker 7 (43:46):
You, because it the river is bounty bounty. You will
see there was a rope across the river.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Grab that rope, like, right, if you miss that rope,
grab the second rope, we'll have the guys, we'll.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
Be trying to save you. And we're like, uh huh.
They had and then they said, if you.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Miss the second rope, we pick up your bodies in
the next town because then it's the water fall tent
and they.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
BIG's the twelve and fourteen. We went, got it.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
We're not going first rope. Oh no, we're not. We're
not losing our footing. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 7 (44:16):
And so, yeah, we determined to not.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
Die pathetic be as you were being dragged out of
the water by Laura, who's like, you know, being.

Speaker 8 (44:23):
That the gutsy one, and you're whining and whining.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Yeah, I am so whiny in this episode, just the
part even though we're on the.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
Rabbit the whole time.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Yeah, she's awful.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
That sounds like a kettle. I annoy myself in this god.

Speaker 8 (44:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
How so then okay, so obviously they did more close
up shots where you guys are actually still and they're
splash in the water, but.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Then they had to do flashing water, moving slightly the
rope from a distance, stunt girls from a distance, so
us close up actually having a swim.

Speaker 9 (45:02):
So Alison, I'm curious how far did you act to
actually go?

Speaker 8 (45:06):
Yeah? Was it very far?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Oh, just holding onto the thing and it's like on
a rope they're towing it and trying to keep control
of it and don't let go because you'll die. That
was partly maybe eight feet, and then the distance from
the thing when it stopped and it was completely stable,
but like staying you had to technically walk way from
that to the state right, but it was like it

(45:29):
was just but we were tiny, skinny, little eighty pound
people and it was like up to our waist, so
it was kind of walk kind of way.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
Once you got past the first couple of feet, then
it was like, yeah, you could totally walk it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
But it was literally there was maybe and again eight
nine feet, but those it just was literally the two
feet the two feet from the raft to where you
definitely had footing.

Speaker 7 (45:52):
Because you didn't there was at least two feet you
did not have footing, and if something went wrong in
those toke, you could go really wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
So it was like as soon as we got footing.
I got to go back and watch it and see
if you can see us.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
When we get footing goes, we realized I'm going have
fun because we're.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Because if you had to do a few takes, you
had to go down the river, even if it was
only eight feet, but then you had to go back
those eight feet to do another take.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, exactly, we.

Speaker 8 (46:23):
Tried so terrible.

Speaker 9 (46:25):
What I think is really fast is that the amount
of distance that you actually, the two of you actually
had to move in the river is so small, and
it's compared to yeah, shot and edited, we went a mile.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Yeah, we went up to real life.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Our bodies traveled this many feet here, and then we
had to go this many feet here. And it was
only the second part because we had to let go
of the thing and paddle wade and then walk from
here to here, which shouldn't have been bad.

Speaker 7 (46:52):
They just said across the current is and it's so cold.
You're fine. Here, you're fine. Here was part of the middle.
Things could go badly.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
So then were the stunt people, the body doubles. Did
they travel a long ways down the river?

Speaker 8 (47:06):
Then they wasn't these models?

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Were these dummies on that or the dummy, because it
was shot enough so that you couldn't really tell tell.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
The shots were so fast.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
It's clip clip And even when you see the stone girls,
I mean, if you see and you go, well, look
there's stune woman, but count one, one thousand and two,
one thousand, Oh, look they're gone. I mean it's not
no people are going. They're going eight feet here to
nobody's going any distance.

Speaker 9 (47:30):
I thought, what's really interesting in the in the world
of editing that we have. Now all this is done electronically,
that sequence would have come together very quickly in that
day when it was cut with a razor blade.

Speaker 8 (47:41):
On a movieola.

Speaker 9 (47:43):
That editorial was a very involved thing to accomplish. When
you're cutting that film with the razor blade and taping
it together.

Speaker 8 (47:52):
I bet that was quite a sequence to build.

Speaker 7 (47:55):
It was amazing. And then there's the freezing cold problem. Okay,
so it's it's phrasing cold and.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
They've explained to you how grown men, experienced rafters have
like gotten to gold and things have gone bad, and
so we're in.

Speaker 7 (48:05):
The wet sits things.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So the infamous story is, of course Melissa Gilbert and
I are standing and I remember our feet aren't covered.
Our little ankles and footies are bare because we're just yeah,
we're like I'm in Mary Jane's and bare feet and
then stalking.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
Let's stalking.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I'm not wearing I'm not wearing wet suit booties because
I'm wearing the costume shoes.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
So I've got the costume on over what. So it's like.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Child in snowsuit, you know, floating petticoats can't move. That
was the other problem, they said, because if we did
get caught in the current, are we're gonna swim we're going?

Speaker 8 (48:41):
That would have been really tough. I think we need
to get you.

Speaker 9 (48:44):
Let's get you for one of those really great moments
in this Let's get you story.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
Are you are rescued?

Speaker 7 (48:54):
Tell me what story two seconds we have, you know,
after the wetsuit story.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
So we're freezing to in the west. It's a little footy
start cover, but we're in the wet clothes. We're gone
and we got We're still cold.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
We're kept from dying.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
But we're cold, and we realize we've been there because
we're a lot of standing around in the water, as
always are standing around in these things. And that's when
we realize we have to peep and that is and
Dean spits his coffee crossroom and Melissa ob goes, I
have to be off, and so we very nicely good
little children, and we go to assistant Rick excuse me.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
We go to the bathroom and they go, oh wow,
we have a problem. What well, bathroom trailers are way
the hell over there, and they said, you're going to
have to get out of the thing. Get out of
the clothes, get in the car, go to the trailer,
take off the whole wet costume, take off the wet suit,
go to the bathroom. Put on a wet wet suit.

(49:48):
Who's been surfinger skinning? Yeah, you can't do that. It
doesn't work. It's it's a nightmare.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
A bathing suit let alone.

Speaker 7 (49:54):
What Yeah, put a wet wet suit back on.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
If you've ever tried that, if anyone's ever been screwed,
it's a nightmare.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
Then put the what the clothes? Pat How long will
this take? Get back in the car, drive down the hill.
They said, no, it was not time for all of that.
Well what do we do? Well, what is it like?
Can you wait till lunch?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
And you know what, good dautiful little child actors. We said,
of course we can, Yes, we'll do.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
That, sure, and we went, what is it? In an hour?

Speaker 1 (50:21):
So we're standing there, We're two little girls who really
have to pee in freezing cold water and splashing of
water sounds, you know, because and that's when I turned
and that's when Melissa Gilbert turned to me and went
and I said, oh, please, God, tell me you did
not do what I think you just did.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
And she says, we'll keep you warm. And what a
server do in the wet suit to keep warm? And
we began to pee in our wet suits to keep warm,
and we did. We peeed in our wet suits standing
in the river, and nobody knew till the end of
the day. And you can imagine Richely in the war
drobe lady, oh my god, So of course they would have. Yeah,

(51:05):
that's why I was saying we were never tonighted bathroom
privileges again, because obviously Richelie went, hey, whoa, what is
happening here with the weds. But we did, we peeded
our wetsit And I've had people who are like scuba
divers go yeah, of course, of course, yeah, but yeah,
so we did. We peed in our wetsuits. That's what
we survived. But yeah, so we wind up on the
She saves my life, Laura's Delly's life.

Speaker 9 (51:27):
So all right, so you get that. I knew that
story was coming.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Now.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
One of the great character moments in this After you're
dragged out of the river, everyone's safe and everyone seems
to be okay until you I know, today Laura pushed
me into the horrible.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Horrible, a beautiful moment where just like you have Caroline,
and and and.

Speaker 7 (51:58):
I mean, because.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
Anduld like you, I'm going to be a better person.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
And I mean, it's a real come to Jesus moment
for Harriet Alsen.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
It truly is Yes, yes, I'll be on the banks.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I know I am the teryl b I'm crying. Laura
than I'm sorry, and she goes, no, it's okay, Nelly
and the thing and we start.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
To make up, and she saved my life. And the
second the second, my mother says, up a minute, the
parents are there. She pushed me, she dread to kill me.
It's awful.

Speaker 6 (52:31):
I mean, it is true.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
It's a wonderful, it's a wonderful moment.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
It's a great moment and just appalling as a human being.

Speaker 7 (52:41):
Yes, truly, and also I start to break down and
get you, and then my.

Speaker 9 (52:49):
Mother and of course Harriet. All the goodness evaporates out
the window in that moment comes as miserable she's ever
been in protection.

Speaker 8 (53:02):
Of her daughter. This also happened.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
This also happens when after Willy and Mary also have
a moment of real like.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
A yes, it's almost a perfect weekend.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
They almost camping, catch some fish, cook some food.

Speaker 7 (53:24):
Go swimming, get some leaves, and everybody loves everybody. Was
almost the moment we're going to become friends.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
Wait, who screwed it happened?

Speaker 4 (53:33):
And then of course and then of course, so they
get back to the campsite and they rub their faces
and the poison oak slush ivy and we're deserving.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
We're way past that.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
No, that's how it happens, right pass rubbing that.

Speaker 8 (53:50):
Before, that's before the whole river.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
That's when Willy first brings it back.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
Jump the moment that where missus Olsen turns from being
so apologetically he's already.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
It's all over as it should be.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
And then we get home, and of course Willie and
Nelly Wynn the leaf and then they turned around and
they were both covered. It's covered with white, all of
the boys.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
What was that made out of?

Speaker 8 (54:23):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Baking soda and water? Because that's what we'll stick to
your face. Basically, baking soda came in many, many times
a baking soda helpful hit. Baking soda was used in
the Weird episode where we're dusting for fingerprints. The creeper
or something I don't know, dusted finger and the whole.

Speaker 7 (54:44):
Place is covered in flower. We covered everything in flour.
For no, we did not. We covered everything in baking soda.
Why did we not cover it flower? Because flower is
highly flammable and explosive.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
And all of the hot actual burning lights and cables,
and as the electricians explained, if you.

Speaker 7 (54:58):
Don't flower all over this room.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
You'd blow this entire sound stage into outer space, so
we all die.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
So yes, that's what I was thinking, because it used
to be.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Was it like an oatmeal that I remember when I chicken,
I get it was of chicken talks. It was a
it was an oat meal like yeah, sometimes.

Speaker 9 (55:19):
The wise things out, which is why you would use that.

Speaker 8 (55:23):
It sucks moisture out of what you want to get that.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
This oozing Yeah, and that's what it looks like. It
looks like that goofy white.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
That's what I think kind of stays stays put even
under hot lights.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
So it was less would have gotten smelly and weird.
So we went yeahs tell us.

Speaker 8 (55:44):
That you can be absolutely horrible and still win.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
In the end.

Speaker 9 (55:51):
In the end, you want you have the the the balances.
Of course that you're still covered with poison ivy.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
But we did get ours, We got ours. We still
you know, punished that it.

Speaker 8 (56:01):
Was coming to you, but you won the contest.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
I think that that two things are there there, but
they're miserable.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
People who don't get along and are terrible can have
moments where they might bond, it can happen.

Speaker 7 (56:14):
But also the message that some people just don't change. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I mean, that's the thing about the Olsens in this
episode is that there are moments where you do all
of a sudden you feel very kindly towards them, or
you see a side of Katherine, you know, you see
a side of Harriet Olsen. Then all of a sudden
you're you really have empathy towards her, you really, Yeah,
there's a person under there and a and then you know,

(56:39):
and then it's all over and it's so infuriating.

Speaker 8 (56:42):
Yeah, it's soting. I think we need to race for
the exits.

Speaker 6 (56:48):
We are we are going to like.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
Cracking the whip here to say, but I think we
need to race for the exits. This was such a
fun episode. Beautiful scenery, wonderful character dying Allison. Another wonderfully
snively hateful performance performance for you.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
Sniffly hateful.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
Yeah, I mean yes, the whiny and the recriminations of
you know, people trying to screw you over love that.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
It's so good. Let's get out of here.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
Okay, Thanks everyone for joining us.

Speaker 7 (57:23):
This was a fun episode.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
This is one of those comedic episodes, so nice because
you know someone's gonna die of the plague at some point,
either the week before or the week after, so it's
always nice to have these comedic episodes. Thanks Allison for
giving us insights and you know about being in wetsuits.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
And we'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Please join us on Patreon if you haven't joined us yet,
we have a really good time. And join us on
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House fifty Podcast.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
And it's time, Bob, get the wig.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
Let's fly.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Everybody see you next time. Ointment slashing pounder, screaming and wetsuits.

Speaker 9 (58:11):
Mhm

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