"The Plauge" recap!

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Hello, Hello, Hello bonnet heads. Welcome. I'm Pamela Bob, your.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
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am here as always with our prairie bitch.

Speaker 7 (02:43):
That's right, the one and only Allison Arngram.

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Speaker 7 (02:53):
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Speaker 4 (02:57):
Dean Butler, how are you, guys, fab I'm good.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
It's it's rainy here in southern California.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
Which is gloomy, which is great on the one hand,
but yeah, but it is gloomy.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
I have to I have all the it's gloomy here
in New York too.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It's that combo slow snow sleet.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, Well you can go out without a sweater
in our rain. You can go out a T shirt
to rain. You will not freeze.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
But it's very comfortable.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hate warm, but I.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
Have, I have.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I have all the blinds open and lights on. It
is dark. It is dark in this room with all
of the blind zone. It's just it's dark.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
So is the rain.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
The rain must be a welcome thing, I mean, my god,
not just because it's southern California, but because of the
fires and the aftermath and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Well, and the good news is it's not intense rain.

Speaker 8 (03:45):
It's it's a very sort of a light soaking rain,
which is really the right kind of rain.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
Because they'd be worried about mudslides.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Oh they are, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I think, I mean,
I think they are worried about that, and that is possible,
but there's it's less likely when you're not having this
torrential down for poor it's just a nice, gentle rain.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Enough water to get things so they can grow back.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
How's the hills, you know, and how's the air quality
out there?

Speaker 8 (04:14):
We keep getting I keep getting warnings all the time
that the air quality is not good. It just doesn't
seem like that, but the warnings keep coming out, so
you know, we are always we are in this valley
and air bad. Air stays in there. And of course
we've had heavy fog. We had very heavy fog on
the west side of town last night. So everything's very.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Still and the rain we're hoping is helping it smells
better already. But yeah, yeah, you had at.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
One point, That's what I was thinking about the air
at least.

Speaker 7 (04:45):
You know, we had.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Seven fires going and in the two large one where
houses burned. That means all the chemicals. Someone said, hey,
the CVS burned. You know how many drugs just went
up in that fire. I mean it says they said,
the kings and the chemicals and it's stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, keep masking, guys, just keep keep the masking.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Filtering conditioner, be kilter tan.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dean, you wanted to address something as
obvious as on.

Speaker 8 (05:15):
The If you can look here, you can see I
have this little uh spot here on my nose. So
I for many years have been dealing with skin cancer.
I've had melanoma, I've had squamas, I've had basil cell.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Ages.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
What ages did it all start?

Speaker 6 (05:39):
I think it started. I want to say it started.

Speaker 8 (05:41):
The melanoma was the first one, the most serious one,
and it happened came up behind my ear. I think
I was a forty two, forty three something like that,
which was relatively early for that, which told me that
I was going to be in for told the doctors
that I was going to be in for this for
a long time.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
You know, this is a function of being out in
the sun a lot as a kid.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
As the doctors have said, the damage you did or
the damage that was done happened.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
Before you were ten years old. So this is all
just a manifestation of that earlier thing. So this is
this is not like an outbreak. This is a cream
that's triggering a response.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
To see that.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
A cream goes on every night, just a dab on
the tip of my nose. And the doctor said, if
there's anything around this, it will spread. Well, I'm fortunate
that the spot basically is right there, which makes sense
because here this nose is out there and the sun
is being down on it. So but anyway, I've just

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had this here. I wanted to acknowledge it so that
people wonder what's going on.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
That's what it is.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
And I just encourage people if you're dealing if you
are fair skinned and the sun is so much stronger
than it used to be, you know, be conscious about
that where sunscreen. Particularly, have your children, if you're what
your children and grandchildren wear sunscreen if if you can,
if you think about that, much better for them in
the long run. And if you do have if you

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do sense that you've got issues, you need to get
to a dermatologist. And you know, if you catch it early,
it can be very easily dealt with. And in my
I guess it's now my third fourth round of this.
It's it's it's, it's hat. It's being dealt with relatively easily.
So thank you for asking, and thanks for allowing me

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to share.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yes, the more you know answer.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Sorry, fun, good time people people here.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
All I know Threy of us were off the I know,
the three of us standing together reflect reflect the sun.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
We're just coming in there.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
My mother had to. It's just when when You'retish Irish
descent and you go in the sun kablueye Eastern European.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah, we're not built for the sun, the sun.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
We're like vampires. I mean, it hurts.

Speaker 9 (08:12):
The sun hurts, physically hurts.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
People don't People.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Who love the sun who are sun people who have
like who are built for it don't understand the concept.
Like when I say to them it hurts being in
the sun, it actually hurts, they can't imagine what that's like.
And that seems really nice to live in our world
where the sun doesn't hurt you.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
We're vampires.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
But yeah, get that sunscreen.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
All right, well here we go, let's get to business.
We are recapping another episode yet yeah, yeah, Season two recap.
Well okay, so this episode that we're doing today, another
one from season one, and this one brought a lot
of people back to the relevance of Little House in

(09:00):
the early days of the pandemic, or I would even
just say the pandemic, but I guess especially the early days,
this episode hit really really hard. So should I should
I say? Let's announce, let's just say, from the studios
of ubn GO in Bourbon, California, this.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Is a Little House on the Prairie.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Fiftieth Anniversary Podcast Season two recap. Yeah, okay, so we're

(09:42):
back again for a pretty classic episode from season one. Dean,
do you want to announce what episode?

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (09:48):
So today from season one episode eighteen, The Plague, which
is a great segue from a skin cancer conversation, premiered
on January twenty.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
In nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
Written by Michael Land and from a story by Michael
and William Keyes. The episode, directed by Michael Land and
Alison give us the synopsis of.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
This super intense with the sudden intensity of a prairie storm,
Typhus is unleashed on an unsuspecting waltmant Grove, teaming Charles
with Doc Baker and Reverend Alden, who worked together to
the point of exhaustion, tending to the community sick and dying.
But when new victims begin to pour in from the
surrounding countryside, the desperate men know they must find the

(10:33):
source of the plague if they expect to stop the
deadly epidemic. This is a really scary episode. I'm just saying, yeah,
especially during twenty twenty when we all watched it.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Yeah, no, exactly, And I think I think this episode
about community banding together to survive a difficult a difficult
experience was obviously.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Part of the re emergence of Little House.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
The people have been watching Little House forever, but this
episode was one of the big ones that drew people
back to the series, and it told a story that
people were living every day.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I mean, the direct parallels to COVID was absolutely astounding.
So I think when people watched this episode, it was
like crazy. Now I'm the dummy, and I've said this
before on this podcast. I'm the dummy that decided let's
watch a Little House during pandemic, which everyone was doing,
and let's watch the first episode, let's watch the plague

(11:36):
because I thought, hey, it correlates with what's happening. So
I played this. My son was in fourth grade at
the time. He's a freshman in high school now, but
he was in fourth grade at the time, and I
played it for him, and I saw him slowly as
the hour was going on, the eyes sort of get
bigger and him get a little more stoic. And then

(11:58):
afterwards he didn't sleep that night.

Speaker 7 (12:01):
He was terrified and.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Dummy me because obviously he didn't fully realize the ramifications
of what COVID was. He knew that there was this
thing happening, and he knew that he wasn't going to school,
and he knew that it was contagious, but until he
saw this episode, this was the episode that showed him
what COVID actually could do. And uh, it scared him

(12:23):
to death. And after that he would not watch another
episode a Little House like I ruined him for.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You knew, and on the Prairie for him.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
He refused to watch unless I promised it was a
very funny episode.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
But I couldn't believe it. I was like, I can't.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Believe I ruined the Little House on the Prairie for
my child, Like this is a nightmare come true.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
If you didn't immediately then put on quarantine when we
all had anthrax.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
No, you go, I know, I know what was like.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
It's also crazy that we have that and in the
little House Cannon and I.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Think it did strike a nerve because during the pandemic
and people were stuck at home and they were like
trying to find something to feel good. That everyone was
so frightened.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
And I mean, the girls are home school and it's
home and it's exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What we were graduating watch because as frightening as it is,
it's like, but look, look Paul's there and the Reverend
Alden and Doc Baker and they know what to do.
They're going to say, if only if we could get
Doc Baker and Bob over to our house, will all
be okay? And and I think they did. I think
they turned to that episode and said, maybe maybe we'll
be okay. We can band together like this.

Speaker 8 (13:34):
Well, what I love about it is it showed what
people of goodwill are willing to.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Do to help those they care about.

Speaker 8 (13:43):
I mean, without you know, there are lots of I know, Alison,
you're going to talk about some of the medical inconsistencies
of this perhaps later, but there's unknown of something that's
so deadly right and you don't know what's getting you.
I mean Doc Baker has a sense of what it
is from looking at a rash or or I guess

(14:05):
you know he examined when he examined the little boy,
he examined.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
Paul high fever, high fever.

Speaker 8 (14:12):
And yeah, interesting also that this was that and this
is so common. This was a little bit like a
Star Trek moment where that you know, the red shirted
guys are going to die. In the beginning, yes, and
it has a little bit of that quality to it
where the family that we've.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Never recognition.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I saw that poor family.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
They're doomed.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
This whole family is doomed because they're the guest family.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Oh they can't even come back. I mean they're they're done.
Let's take it from the beginning. So in the beginning,
we see, uh, the man in you know, the barn
with all the pounds and pounds of corn meal that
he is selling Pater at the Feed and Seed mister
Peterson shasty.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
He almost dies, Yeah, he almost.

Speaker 7 (15:12):
Why was he selling it for?

Speaker 6 (15:14):
It's who sold it to him for so cheap that.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
You have to look, she got it got it got it.

Speaker 8 (15:20):
He's just yeah, he's just he is passing on his
good fortune with low price to consumer. Right, He's not
jacking up the price and profiting. He's selling it less,
which is what mister Hanson is.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
How is he doing this?

Speaker 8 (15:35):
This is not the price of this And I can't
sell my flower because this corn meal is so cheap.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Also, who knew mister Hanson sold flour? That was it's
a mill.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
But is that wood?

Speaker 7 (15:48):
Isn't it lumber?

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (15:49):
Well it's lumber and yeah no. In season six, you
have the wonderful you know, you have that wonderful moment
which we talked about what we did back to school,
whether there's the millstone and it.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Breaks, you know the thing Jonathan Garvey.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
You know, so it's very I always say about Little House.

Speaker 6 (16:09):
You know, Michael was not obsessed with the content detail
that kind of detail.

Speaker 8 (16:15):
What Michael was is how people felt about what was happening.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
It was the emotional.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
Life less important than the I mean, like, how does
this belting make this saw work? I mean, you know,
and you hear the electric motor when it's running, which
is you know, it's just like but it's like we
let that go we just let that go in the

(16:42):
service of the larger story, which in this case is
about how where's this corn meal come from? Why is
it so cheap? And then and what's cool is we
learn everything we need to know. In the first scene
we see the rat.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
What the problem is?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
Oh, I want to know who the rat handler was?

Speaker 9 (17:03):
Right with those trains or Alison?

Speaker 7 (17:06):
Do you know?

Speaker 4 (17:07):
They must it must be someone who handles Yeah, any animals,
including rats.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't know who did it, but if you saw
an animal, somebody had them trained and somebody shut down
because you noticed the rat cos like up a bag
at one point, like stops and eat and turned and
somebody's going it's a left, left, squeaky and like telling
them what to do. Some of his directing the rat.
They're actually a rat trainer doing that. I don't know
who they were, but that's what we did.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
No, I believe it, Yeah, of course, of course. Okay,
so we know that that that things are not going
to go right. Yes, things are not good. And then
we're at the Engles home. They're having a lovely well.
First we see this lovely family.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
Joy be back.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Two loads, two loads. They made extra right.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
They made extra oh you guys, it's so gross. Okay,
And then we go to the Ingles house and Laura
has a toothache. Now here's what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
The toothache.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
She probably just has in current day, right, it's probably
just a little cavity, probably would be real easy to
take care of.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
But instead, what has to happen.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
The whole damn tooth has to go and that cannot be.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
And then but Doc Baker says it is a baby tooth.
It's not, and it's not her adult tooth yet. It's
it's so it would have come out.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
On its own. But yeah, that's an interesting thing. Doc
Baker was not known always He.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
Was a dentist too, but not always known for.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
The best diagnosis.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
Although he's going to redeem himself in this episode.

Speaker 7 (18:48):
He really will.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
He was a little modern because he said, I could
let it full up, but I'm worried it might be infected.
He said, so we're gonna get it out just yet.
That actually was wowly forward thinking for the eighteen hundreds.
But yeah, they just did that.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
I always think, like, you know, nineteen hundred was when
the X ray was first invented, and there were major
breakthroughs in medicine in nineteen hundred and I often tend
to think like Doc Baker was actually a really like
a really good doctor, and he was really interested in
science and medicine. And I imagine what he would have

(19:28):
been like if he had just been there, you know,
twenty twenty five, thirty.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
Years later antibiotics nineteen nine.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
And right right, I mean, imagine how drastic his life
would have changed, as well as the population.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Shout out for Kevin Hagen here too.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
I he's so good.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
I think Kevin's presence as Doc Baker, his whole look,
the vibe, the voice, great bed side manner.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
I mean, yeah, you know.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
Doc, he just was compassionate.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
He was a.

Speaker 8 (20:05):
Wonderful presence as much as he was he oversaw a
lot of death during during that series, but you knew
he was doing his best always there was here.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
He was.

Speaker 8 (20:19):
He was really a compassionate, carrying, good doctor, wonderful presence,
great part of the core of that Walnut Grove community,
along with Dabsqueer, who were also going to talk about today.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
And it was realistic in that sense because it's only
so much you could do in eighteen seventy four. There
was very little you could do, and I mean I'm terrifying.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
So here's another thing I noted, is this our very
first little house on the Perry Ice Bath were witnessing
it is?

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Maybe? Yeah, maybe, I think so, maybe.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Because it's it's only like episode which episode is?

Speaker 8 (20:53):
Episode eighteen, season one, episode eighteen in season one, and
that little boy was really packed, was packed, Buddy was packed.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
So now that I know it was actually real Ice,
my whole world view has been changed by this because
I never in a million years would have imagined that
was realized that they were using. Yeah, that kid was,
I mean, and he swaddled him up to in that
I was like up or.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's uh. I think you're right.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
I think it probably was the first one, although if
we go back and do the previous yeah, I think
it's got to be the first.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Yeah, we'll have to there. I don't think there was
any before this episode. I don't think there was any
major medical episodes, you know, yes, medical crisis episodes.

Speaker 8 (21:39):
I mean, look, Laura hart Or has had tonsils and
you know in a in another episode which we're going
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
But yeah, yeah, but no Ice pack.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Anyone who's like, I don't you wish we were back
in the eighteen hundreds when things was simple. No, because
a simple tooth poll sounds like it would have been horrific.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
Thick.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
She had every right to not want the penny.

Speaker 10 (22:05):
Tooth.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Can I just say the tooth fairy was not invented
in eighteen seventy four? She says, Oh, the tooth frain. Oh,
you can put them under your pillow and they'll bring
you a penny. And I was like a penny man.
Even I was in the sixties, I'd get in a quarter.
Even a little kid, I got a quarter in a.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Way, and I was thinking like that, no penny, that was.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Like a lot. And I remember I remember getting a dollar.
It's like the inflation. That Okay, tooth fairy, I'm like
flipping through my nose. The tooth fairy was early twentieth century.
The tooth fairy was not There was no tooth fairy
in eighteen seventy four. There were some ancient traditions about
saving your teeth. She wasn't born yet, the tooth fairy.
The tooth fairy was not born, or she had gone

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into business.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Yes, you hadn't gone into business.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Or reached this country. There was there was no mention
in the tooth fairy.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Yeah, she's like a missus old.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
She got over from Europe, and she actually did. There
was like some weird tradition in Europe, but it was
not an America. It was not an America.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
It was not oh interesting all right, only only no
one would have known that unless you specifically looked it up,
which is exactly.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
What we're doing.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Okay, So yeah, so she has to get her tooth pulled,
and then.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Dot Baker examines Paul. His name is Paul, who's burning
up with fever.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And that's when we see the ice, the ice bath,
the crazy crazy ice.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
Well, even before that happens, you know, Paul's mother collapses,
so we know Sylvie.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Sylvie collapses.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Medical note, medical note, it's so fast. It's so fast.
In real life, typhus up to two weeks to manifest symptoms.
It takes a while to kick in after the flea bite.
The flea has fitted by you, and then you have
to and then it can It can take up to
two weeks. It may maybe a couple of days it
was particularly terrible strain or you're very sickly and dangerous

(23:54):
old people, etcetera. But the idea they ate that corn
bread and man the next morning, bam they were down.
It's like.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Again, Michael, Yeah, you know, how.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Would we know that? Yeah, we wouldn't know that.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Here's the other question though, how long does it? How
long do you have it before you pass from it?
And does anyone survive it?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Is that yes, even with no treatment. Back in the day,
ten bad fatality rate ten percent to sixty percent. If
if you were not particularly hearty, or you were an
elderly person ory small child, you were more in the
sixty percent or very dangerous. You could die if you're
particularly young and strapping and healthy and like they packed

(24:35):
it in the ice bath and did what they could,
then you know, down to that ten percent fatality rate
with treatment. The new drugs which were invented till like
nineteen fifty eight, the drug they usually use now there's
zero zero stopic nineteen fifty eight dos cycling DOXA. Cycling
is the drug of choice now invented in a nineteen
fifty eight zero death, zero death if they pump you

(24:58):
full of that, none of that. Somewhere between ten and
sixty percent, depending on your underlying health. How about a
case you got and if dog Baker's there at least
with an ice back to break the fever.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
I am so glad you're here to provide this information.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
That's awesome medical Greek. I was on the A top line.
I'm big on disease.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25:22):
No, But but again I love it that Michael is
not going to become concerned about this. This is for
the story. He's going to push this forward. So Paul
gets it.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
Sylvie immediately sah, you know, very you would have a.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
High death rate. You're isolated from people. All they have
is the ice packs. There are various treatments.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
At the time, So I would have thought, yeah, I
would have thought at that time it was virtually it
would have been virtually impossible to recover from that.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
But I guess it.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
I guess people did.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
I will say that her the silly, the mother just
dead in that bed, hit me real.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
And Doc Baker didn't. There was nothing said no.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
I mean, it's like this was so much more serious
that this was. This was just the beginning of what
was going to be a tough road. I think that's
what Michael was communicating there, because there's no pause for
any kind of acknowledgment. Eric is left sitting there stone faced, yep,
looking at his deceased wife and Doc Baker's going back

(26:31):
to their son to try and save them.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
So it's uh, I thought that was interesting too.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
And you could, depending who you were, you could just go.
If you've got a bad case diavis, you no dreaming,
so you goold terrified. Well, I mean when they're probably
the time to get to the church, and then he says,
you need to get shovels.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yes, yes, bring the shovels.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Yes, right, bring shovels too, because we're going to need
to bury people.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
I mean he's Michael in the writing is planting all
putting all the seeds out there in a very clean
way that this is really bad and we have we're
going to be this is the fight of our lives
to survive this, because this could kill us all if
we're not careful.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
How many people are in Walnt Grove.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Well, I no, this is at one point he talks
about we have eleven people in the in the in
the church who are sick. I don't know if that
was eleven people who had died already or eleven people
who were there at patients.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
It's not a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
And Walnut Grove is a small community, and that was
the thing when you were isolated back in the day,
you got something like this and it was tearing through
the place. There's only so many people in your town.
If it's a zero to sixty, and it goes closer
to sixty, your town's over sixty percent of the people
dyeing walnant growth. There is no town. You pack up,
you leave the building, you're done, You're done.

Speaker 10 (28:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Then another medical moment. Typhus can be very bad because
during Napoleon's retreat, during Napoleon's retreat from Moscow in eighteen twelve,
because of course I know this, it was more French
soldiers died of typhus than were killed by the Russians
in the War of eighteen twelve. That is how bad
it can go.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
Wow, And you can just imagine that fleas would have
been everywhere in that situation.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Unsanitary conditions.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Yeah, right again. You mentioned it a moment ago about
how people.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Panel I think you said people often romanticize about how
great it would be to live in that time. There's
no way I would trade the time we live in,
for all the challenges we have, I wouldn't trade it
for those kinds of hygiene issues alone, that just the
lack of.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Knowledge about what is going on with all of us
was deadly. And then the.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Conditions, the cold, the extreme heat, the all the things
that were unknown that could get you.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
I wouldn't trade. Wouldn't trade.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, as you said, the only treatment you had is
to try to break the fever with the ice. And
then they were running out of ice.

Speaker 8 (29:15):
Yes, right, yeah, again, Yes, we go to the ice
house and the supply of ice is dwindling.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
So it's it's it's bad, bad, bad.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, And I think Michael meant. I think it's show Hey, guys,
the eighteen hundreds. We've just done seventeen episodes. We've shown
how lovely and charming and romantic it is. And here's
why it was bad and why people progressed and invented
things because it was so hard because we had no
medicine and we then we had the ice, and then
we didn't have the ice. And this is how horrible
it can go if you're stuck in that time period.

(29:46):
I think you meant to show that.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
So we're going off on some tangent here.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
So so we got to bring us back, bring us
back into the here of the conversation.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Is it is? It is it Carl and his wife
that my Michael.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
Goes out hunting and and he sees the wagon walking
along with the unconscious driver Carl.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
Uh. Is that where we are now?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
So, but before that happens, Doc Baker Baker comes into
the church, say, let me just say one thing. A
couple of years ago, a fan reached out and said,
because we were talking about the sexy men on Little
Aston Perry, and apparently there was a cohort of fans

(30:29):
who think that Doc Baker is the sexiest man, hot Doc,
as we call him hot true, which was he.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Was, Okay, he was he he taught, he was an
Arthur Marie dance instructor when he was young. And the
black suit and I saw him in person was not
the one I was, Doc Baker. Kevin Hagen was very
sexy in person.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
He was.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
He had that kind of personality.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yes, both came out of the woodwork like yes, Doc Baker,
hot Doc, hot Doc, and I had no idea, just
like I didn't know Garvey was like a big hot person.
I'm like, I didn't know there. These are things that
I don't know, so anyway, but I will say, Doc
Baker walks into that church with his shirt button nope,

(31:12):
in a little looking all haggard and worn, and he
there definitely is a little hot Doc action going on
with him here and another moment at the end of which.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Will do his hair's toss to the church.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yes, and he's worn, and he's he's you know, feeling
all the fields and he comes into the church and
he tells everybody he thinks it's Typhus. And the reactions
also he says that missus what's her face died and
the reactions of that we were pretty insane and accurate.
I would imagine if I was in a church having

(31:46):
a lovely service about love and let's keep the love
going on during the week, and then your doctor bursts
in and says, hey, your friend is dead out of nowhere.
And also there might be a plague happening in this horrifying, absolutely, horrifying, terrible,
which is again the parallels with COVID are.

Speaker 9 (32:08):
Just insane, insane.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That we bar restaurant where the band went on break
and they said, ladies and gentlemen, the governor and the
mayor fons. The all bars are closed. However, we serve foods,
so we're still open. The band played a few more songs,
took a break, and now all restaurants are closed. Good night,
please leave, have a safe drive home. And that and
that is the suddenness with which things happened. You just

(32:32):
you were in the middle of something. They said, we're closing.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
There's a plague and people dying, and people you know
dying and people that you know are and it's just
spreading and you don't know the source.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
And that's what.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Also the parallel in this episode was just Doc Baker saying,
like we if we could just find the.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Source, multiple question where's the source? Where's the source?

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Because all these people come from all around, how are
they how are they sharing this with each other? And
we keep seeing the bags of well, it's all out.
I mean that the audience.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
It's written completely open for the audience. The audience knows everything.
It's we're watching the we're watching the town figuring it out.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Isn't that a Hitchcock principle where we see the bomb
under the table and the two people talking at the table,
the characters don't see the bomb, and the audience sees
the bomb and goes, no, no, get up from the table.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
It's much more scary. Obviously they know the jeopardy that's there.
So yeah, no, it's very good storytelling.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I think we should go on a break and then
when we come back, we'll finish the recap of this episode.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Stay tuned, everyone.

Speaker 9 (33:38):
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 (34:29):
And we're back and just so you know, we're all
talking about hot doc behind the scenes.

Speaker 8 (34:33):
Okay, stakes arising here, I mean, so Doc Baker's okay, yes, brother,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
Reverenalda has been called back into town, and.

Speaker 8 (34:46):
He, as the brave and as the principled community figure,
steps in and risks, at least, as Doc Baker puts
it to him, you know you've been exposed.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Now, you can't leave now.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
In fact, Allison, you'd say he probably hasn't been exposed,
but he.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Thought he was right, so so right.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
So then there's a part in the episode where Laura
asks Paul like, how do you how do you get it?
And he says, you get it from fleas and rats.
But Alison hit us.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Is you need to be bit by the flea carrying
the this this bacteria of this disease on the rat
or in the case there's like three different types of
type as. One is lyce et cetera, et cetera. But
this is a particularly bad one is the fleas. But
it is not transmissible human to human. It's just not.

(35:36):
So you could fill that church if people were sick,
and as long as you check their like their clothes
for fleas, which absolutely could have been a thing. And
you clean the church, nobody's nobody's gonna go in, and
then it's catching anything in there. But yeah, you just die.
But you're not You're not going to catch it. I mean,
none of those people, they're all standing back like an airport.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
Could get it if you but you could get it
if you baked.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Well, I'm thinking that we're poop inn And I love
when Vernalden goes in because he is a man of God.
He's like, you can't go, it's not safe, and he's like,
are you crazy, I'm the reverend. Yeah, that's what I do. Sickness,
death and people needing me. I'm going straight into that building,
right right.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
Yeah, you really see the goodness of these people.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Yes, And that's I mean, I think that's the that's
the messaging that's so powerful about community, that that Michael.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Offers in the writing of this. And the episode is
very cinematically shot too, you know that.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
The Yeah, it really is. And also the wind can
we talk about the wind?

Speaker 6 (36:43):
Looking?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
So when was this film? Deed you know what?

Speaker 9 (36:47):
So?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Is aired in January? Aired in January, but we had
kind of a bit of time between the time shot
December and I was trying to figure out when it
was the windy since see me, and I'm thinking December
was when it was like, wait, so that was really
there was real wind because they there were scenes they
didn't really want wind, like when they're trying to get
that laundry off the line. I think they would like
a little less wind than that they're like falling over

(37:09):
the closes are going. Ever, it was insanely windy because
remember the guys going into beautiful Day to take my
son fishing to go for what No, no, it's not.
There's gale force winds. You can barely stand up that.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
That scene with the laundry came right after the burn
this place to the ground where if you light that up,
you know, we've seen, we just.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Saw in southern California, the power of wind and spreading fire.

Speaker 6 (37:34):
I looked at that thought was that shot green screen?
Did they.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Said a feeling it was a little green screened? This
is the first time actually noticed, And I went, yes,
I thought that too as I watched.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
I think it might be.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Faces with the fire.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
And maybe and maybe it's because we're watching it on
more you know, HD television screens now so that we
can see details.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Are you ever noticed?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So they burned something but somewhere else? And well you
could because you could you could light a fire like
that and see me.

Speaker 8 (38:11):
Well, but well you could with the fire department round.
You can see the other buildings in the background. You
can see Olson's in the backroom.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
It would have gone up like that in that wind
and that big of fire. Oh my, everything would have
there would have been a fort.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Everything would have been gone.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
And immediately off the fire you cut to this like
tornado hurricane as the girls are getting the laundry off
the line, It's like, yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
So I honestly thought that it was intentional that the
weather was dally with the drama of what was going on.
So I'm I really like I was watching and going like, oh,
they had.

Speaker 9 (38:49):
Families, certainly had.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
To create no, But I mean, I thought it was
purposefully done to create this sort of atmosphere of what
was going on and to know that it was just
it was.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
And people had to loose. They had to loop all
their dialogue because the wind was blowing and it was
a nightmare. But I think what happened is when they
went like is it too windy, Mike?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
What?

Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, it's perfect. It's creative, great because the drama and
like genius perfect.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
It's windy hair he.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Hated, it's always yeah, but I think he figured tool.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
I thought the wind was a wonderful character in the
piece to create this sense of stress and danger.

Speaker 7 (39:29):
And that's why I thought it was intentional.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
I thought, what a brilliant script to create this windy atmosphere.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
So he believes.

Speaker 8 (39:38):
In the wind, but when he's out hunting, there's not
a breath of wind. So I'm thinking, you're right. It
was the wind, Allison. It was the wind blowing, because
if it had been wind at the house, it would
have been wind on the hunt.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
There was no wind on the hunt that immediately followed as.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
He left to get there just early in the morning
before it kicked in.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Well, yeah, possible, Okay that yes, you could make a
kid come and go? Is that? And Michael again didn't
worry about that stuff. He just said, this is the situation.
The only thing he couldn't do with see me was
to shoot in the rain because you couldn't get You
wouldn't have gotten out of there.

Speaker 7 (40:15):
If how many lines did that.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I imagine back in the day.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
The spring.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
November November and February were traditional monsoon rainy months in California.
We get the big rain and it would rain November
and we'd all go back to Paramount and they'd have
the board with all the episodes and the scenes, but well,
we can't shoot that. Oh we can shoot this today.
What can we shoot today? Oh we're missing pray.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
Yeah. It was masterful at jumping the schedule, and they.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Changed it all around, and then they go, wait, but
so and so's not and sometimes they had to call
an actor and go, I know you weren't supposed to
work till Thursday, but we just like dump the whole day.
Do you want to come in?

Speaker 8 (40:54):
One year, I was in I was in New York
doing the Thanks Macy's Parade. I was supposed to go
see my family in Virginia and spend and I got
a call after the parade from Camp McCrae say, we
need you to work tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Get on a plane tonight and come home.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
November.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
We did. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (41:10):
What months did you guys film?

Speaker 8 (41:12):
It was May, May through February something like that.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I know we wore to January because I always had
my birthday on the sets. But like yeah, beginning of
the end of January, beginning of February, we stopped.

Speaker 8 (41:24):
Because there was always a show that was ready to
go for May sweeps.

Speaker 6 (41:28):
So that would have you know, that was you know,
that would have been.

Speaker 8 (41:31):
The big thing that would have ended the season basically
was a May sweep show. But yeah, it was May
to February. I don't think we went into March. Would
and then started, yes, exactly exactly, and then starting again
then starting again.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
In May pilot season. Yeah, remember it?

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Okay, Oh yeah, god, that's just yeah, that was he did.
I love the way he did that. He searches the house.

Speaker 8 (42:02):
It's yet this wonderful cinematic shot looking up the hill.
He sees that it's the dead.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Tree, the father and son, Yes, it's Michael. The slow
walk up the hill, the watching. Michael just allowed these
moments to happen.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
He didn't minimal dialogue there, but you he gave you all.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
The atmosphere of this moment. And I just think this
reveals over and over.

Speaker 8 (42:32):
Again his strength as a as a director. He just
he was not afraid to let moments.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
Play and they're so gorgeous. This this episode is really.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
The heartbreaking scene when he treks them, I didn't know
his name, and he just says, I had nothing to
put on the cross. That's it, that's it, just a
couple of lines. He's not crying, but he just says,
I didn't know his name. I had nothing to put
on the cross. And you see Carolinees facing his face.
It's just devastation. And again the parallels to twenty two.

(43:08):
How many people were buried out on the island out
there when added to the Pottersfield.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, and there were there were you know those those
portam Morgues that were on the streets in New York
City that they because they had to.

Speaker 9 (43:25):
Stack the bodies.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
There wasn't room in the hospital. It was just her.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
I love the sea where Charles goes by, and you know,
mister Edwards invites him in for the court and he says, no,
I can't, we can't. I can't come in and you
can't go into town. Don't come into I need you
to be I need you as my best friend to
be there if something happens to me, to take care
of my family.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
Oh, you know, which is a wonderful foreshadowing.

Speaker 8 (43:51):
The things are not going to go well for mister
Edwards either you know, I mean, I think again, just
for the wonderful foreshadowing that Michael did sort of lead
us through this and there and then the scene the
I love the scene you're mentioning. This scene with Charles
and Caroline is sort of the longing of two people
in love and they're reflecting back on when they first met.

(44:14):
And again, just that scene could have been something so factual,
but Michael makes it emotional. Again, It's always about what
people feel. This is what Michael really was so on
top of is what do people feel in these moments,
and he made that happen in that scene.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
And mister Olson coming through anything in the store, which
again just felt so like, oh yes, it just felt
so good when the people are just doing the right thing.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
And interesting that he did, because if he were going
to include missus Olson in that scene, she would have
had to have objected.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
You know, he didn't open the door to that. This
is about generosity.

Speaker 8 (45:01):
We're not even good and he didn't want to don't
want to tamper with Catherine's character by having her be negative,
which would have had people hate her.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
Really, this would have been a Leam O'Neill moment.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
You know, from harvest to friends, that might have been
an unrecoverable moment for her.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
He didn't let that moment happens.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Why wasn't And you seems you're just little get the
intensity of emotion in every single That's right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (45:31):
Uh So let's fast forward.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Now the church is a makeshift hospital, lots of people
in there, and we get a surprise cameo from Dents.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Such a great story behind that, and she was amazing.
It's her first performance or first episode on the show.
And I remember going, wait, this is the first time.
I went, is she like good?

Speaker 7 (45:53):
Is she like?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Was she good in this? I don't and then went, oh,
my god, she's amazing. She was amazing.

Speaker 9 (45:58):
Ye, she's really.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
She told me a wonderful.

Speaker 8 (46:01):
Story about the scene. She said they had to shoot it.
They had.

Speaker 6 (46:07):
Michael had to shoot.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
His coverage again because the first time he was looking
at his daughter and got so emotional that he he
it was it was inappropriate for the scene.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
This was not his child yet, so he had to dial.

Speaker 8 (46:28):
It back and control him to be more circumspect about
this moment.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Despite the fact that he was looking at his.

Speaker 8 (46:37):
Daughter, who he absolutely adored, and playing that, stepping into
the reality of that moment. And I think, I don't know,
I don't remember how she said, who who spoke up
about that, but it was determined after the first take
that we have to do this again. Michael, you have
to collect yourself and you've got it, and he's directing,

(46:58):
so he had I don't know who would have been
who was his first of you know, it was Miles
or if it was more it wouldn't be Teddy.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Teddy his buddy.

Speaker 8 (47:07):
Might have might have said something to himatographer.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
They were tight, so okay, yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:16):
And then and then of course Miles Midow, who was
the other lead, first assistant director, might have I think
there probably would have been a collective conversation about that
and recognizing we need to I need to dial this
back a little bit because that could have been a
really I'm sure you know, the waterworks would have been
flowing on that one big time.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
And it's just that it wasn't the right the right vibe.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
She looks at him and says, am I going to die?

Speaker 7 (47:42):
Wild?

Speaker 6 (47:43):
Going to die?

Speaker 7 (47:44):
I know, forget it? She was giddy.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, Also, what a choice?

Speaker 7 (47:51):
Who's going to play the dying child?

Speaker 4 (47:52):
I know, great opportunity for my daughter.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
And she was really nervous going to set that they
and you know you're gonna be You're gonna be great,
and she was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, she nailed it.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Also, mister Edwards, she nailed it. Also mister Edwards has
fallen sick. And but this conversation with Charles is how
we he figures out that it was in fact the
corn meal that is, I.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
Wait, cornmeal conversation happens, and then all and then he
puts together that he's seen all these things at the
other house and the bag at the other house.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Like eight people in a row go, we just made
corn bread. Did you want some corn bread? I just
finished my corn corn corn corn corn corn.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Like, keep talking about like, well one corn bread, keeps
saying corn and like, and finally when mister Edwards goes, yeah,
the stuff that was half priced.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
From that guy, and that's penny drops.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
Finally the penny drops.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Okay, So then Doc Hot Doc and Pop Hot Doc
and Chesty Charles go to.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Chesty Charles, Chesty Charles Wow go.

Speaker 7 (49:10):
To they go to Peterson's.

Speaker 6 (49:16):
He's running upstairs and he's unconscious.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
It is he's unconscious and it is infested that upstairs.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
They find the keys. They opened the door. Finally it's
like they're shaking the lock. They have to get open
and there yes, and then Scott Baker has his cash
line in the episode.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Best line this is this is when he redeems the
hot doc status in my book, where I was like,
I never saw it before, but here it is and
this is the moment. The moment is wait. I even
wrote it down. The line is get Peterson to the
church placed in the ground, and I was like, oh

(50:00):
my god, that's hot.

Speaker 9 (50:02):
That is hot.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
This is the way he did it, the standing in stillness,
like the groundedness of it.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
It was so great.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Okay, hot doc people, I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I'm I'm on board for this.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
And when they kick him the dwarf to go get
Initially they're gonna kill him because they're going this guy
sold everybody the bad stuff. Where is he and their
banks or And then they come in and he's been
eating the corn too. He didn't know he ate it.
He's also deadly.

Speaker 8 (50:29):
Oh you know, the way the character was cast, you
just knew that the character had no idea that he
was selling bad corn meal. He just didn't know that
this was a completely innocent thing.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
And it was a lesson was if it's too good
to be true, it probably too good a deal. And
how many people were horribly sick or died because they
could not it was just barb.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
I think we needed to track down Leam O'Neill who
probably sold mister Peterson.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Yeah, are.

Speaker 6 (51:02):
From his other place in some other town.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
All right, so let's we'll wrap up the episode. But
Edwards gets better. Charles brings true.

Speaker 9 (51:18):
With sulfur smell like far but true.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Sulfur works. Sulfur works. It was used in ancient, ancient
times and absolutely it kills everything. It will kill insects
if they get close enough. It kills bacteria, kills virus,
It kills absolutely everything.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
It is.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
It stinks and you have to drop like a block
of sulfur into a bad alcohol bath. It's like what
he did, and the thing comes up and it will work.
And they, I mean they used it in something, didn't
ancient who discovered because it doesn't goes. Oh, it kills bacteria, fungus,
It kills fungus, it goes. No, they knew it because

(51:55):
when we see how many billions of years ago. Did
they do the sulfur?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
It was?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
It was used as in ancient times, like ancient Greek
rooms used it and they to this day.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
I just want to know the ancient who did it first?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Win you this smells bad, let's try it. It's still
and they still use it sometimes. It absolutely sulfur will
kill anything, and you can disinfect a place.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
And still used for stink bombs and you know all
all that stuff. It's like, yeah, a big deal, I.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Will say, even though the episode wraps up any semi yeah,
a lot of people have died a lot of and
we've seen them die in the course of this episode.
Here's my beef, Here's my beef. With the Little House

(52:47):
on the Prairie. As a whole, we have these very dramatic,
very upsetting episodes, very sad and even though it's ended
on a positive note, we are still carrying sadness with us,
like we're.

Speaker 9 (53:02):
Not over it yet.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
And then what happens those Indian credits Do Do Do Do?

Speaker 9 (53:08):
Yeah, Yeah, do do Do?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
We're happy now do do Do Do?

Speaker 7 (53:12):
And it is a.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Buzz kill of epics proportions. I don't know why Michael
and alternate two different credits because I'm telling you that
happy credit at the end ruins emotional experiences when it
comes in on a highly dramatic episode because you are
not okay yet, and then.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
There's Laura to an airplane arm in the days Hill.

Speaker 8 (53:36):
This is this is Michael's way of This is the
anthology nature of what the series is. Everything starts off clean.
You know, you have this moment. This is people's beef
with traditional episodic television is that there's the stakes are
wiped away immediately and everything is normal again the next week.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
That's the nature.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
Ocover the episode.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
We're not I mean, they could have done the alternate
ending for for like Sylvia and scary episodes. They could
have had it like silence, like a crawl, just a
crawl of names, silent or quite music. But then.

Speaker 10 (54:11):
They have sweeping, beautiful music that everyone dies the Sylvia
won the baby Baby.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Yeah, it's awful going through those ending credits after.

Speaker 9 (54:31):
I mean, it's really awful. It's awful. Fan backing me
up here, it is.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Well, let's let's let our listeners can comment on that.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
That's a very interesting point. I really thought about.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
It's weird.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Why didn't you have an alternate ending credit for the
really horrible episodes.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
That's my big yes, listeners people, if you also feel
that way about.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
The ending credits, please try.

Speaker 9 (54:56):
And that's funny.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
You've never thought of that before in your episodes when
you're like, you know, paralyzed and the house is do
do doo?

Speaker 7 (55:06):
Whoa do do do? He's fine?

Speaker 9 (55:08):
Now, yeah, it's a buzzkill anyway.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
That's that's how I'm wrapping this episode.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
Yes, yeah, great episode, A great episode for medical inconsistencies
and correct, A great episode, A.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Great and Typhus is correct. It's just the it is
insanely dangerous. And that's why you must keep your flower
and your grains safe from rats and other things, because
you can die.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
All right, Okay, let's thank god we're not in the
eighteen hundreds anymore.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Terrifying episode.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
What are we gonna do?

Speaker 6 (55:51):
We're gonna fly.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
To fly everyone.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Thank you for joining us, Join us on our socials,
The House fifty Podcasts, and our site Little House fifty
podcast dot com.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
Like and subscribe. Share this to your.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Friends and we will see you next time. Bob, let's
go get the wig fly.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
We're doing the credits. Damn it, we should have an alterna.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I'm not happy I don't have Titus if I don't
live with the eighteen hundreds, am I other ATA?

Speaker 7 (56:20):
And am my honest ya

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