February 13, 2025 • 44 mins
It’s the day before Valentine’s Day, so we’re celebrating love—Prairie style! Sure, today’s recap episode might have divorce in the title, but make no mistake—it’s all about love. Join us as we break down Laura’s hilariously jealous power moves, Almanzo hitting peak #imaginaryboyfriend status (in the bath, no less), Laura going full Jerry Springer with the prissy Brenda Sue, and Almanzo butchering a love song on the guitar. Let’s be honest—these two desperately needed couples therapy. Meanwhile, the running gag of Pa’s broken window keeps the laughs rolling.
Get the inside scoop from Alison and Dean on what it was really like filming this episode, plus, find out the surprising way David Rose composed his iconic music, how it was recorded, and why Dean dubbed him a “lady’s man.”
Oh, and somehow, IKEA becomes the star of the conversation. Yes, IKEA. Buckle up!
Don’t forget to subscribe, comment, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow Bonnetheads. See you in 2025!
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Get the inside scoop from Alison and Dean on what it was really like filming this episode, plus, find out the surprising way David Rose composed his iconic music, how it was recorded, and why Dean dubbed him a “lady’s man.”
Oh, and somehow, IKEA becomes the star of the conversation. Yes, IKEA. Buckle up!
Don’t forget to subscribe, comment, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow Bonnetheads. See you in 2025!
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Haven’t signed up for Patreon yet? Link is below!PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/LittleHousePodcast
***We send our love and support to L.A. and all of those affected by the Wild Fires. Especially our friend, Matthew Labyorteaux, (Albert Ingalls) and his family who have been devastated by the fires.
If you would like to contribute to his GoFund Me, please visit:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-leslie-matt-rebuild-after-devastating-fire-loss
Other mentionable charities:
American Red Crossredcross.org, or call 1-800-RED CROSS
California Community Foundation's Wildfire Recovery Fund
Passadena Community Foundation
www.LittleHouse50Podcast.com to connect with our hosts and link to their websites.The merch shop is under renovation - we will keep you posted on the status!
www.LivinOnaPrairieTV.com Check out the award-winning series created by Pamela Bob, with special guest stars Alison Arngrim and Charlotte Stewart.
Little House 50th Anniversary Bus Tours - www.SimiValleyChamber.org select Little House 50th Anniversary and then Bus Tickets
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Dean Butler @officialdeanbutler
Alison Arngrim @alisonarngrim
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Speaker 4 (02:33):
Well Hello again, bonnet Heads, Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to
The Little House fiftieth Anniversary Podcast. I am Pamela Bob,
your host and star and creator of Living on a Prairie,
And I am here as always with our favorite prairie bitch,
Alison Arngrim, the one and only. And we are also
here with our hashtag imaginary boy friend. I don't know
(02:54):
if he's your hashtag imaginary book right here, Allison, I
don't think so, but sure, I'll take this one for
the teeth, my hashtag.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Team.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Butler, Hi, So the two of you look wonderful for
our balance.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
This was not planned.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And look at you, but you're you look like two
red hearts. I mean, it's just like fantastic. But don't
we always you look but but but you're really on
the theme here. I'm in Butler blue as that is,
as is my inclination. But you too look great?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Did not anything?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's always good for Valentine's Day anyway, So we're good
to go. That's right, this is our Valentine's Day episode.
Let's let's talk a love.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Let's not talk about the love of.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Blanche please, Lord, Let's pretend that net happened.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, thank you, Let's just I still.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Can't wrap my mind about it around it there if
Phonsie was going to jump a shark in any episode
of the episode. Yeah, so it's weird anyway, what what?
What are your face episodes about love? In Little House? Also, well,
I guess do you have one? Or do you?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Did you have?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Did you love one? Filming one as.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Much as you know me and Perceval, I mean, that
was so much fun to do when we were so
in love and it was so we were so perfectly
much the Pig Farmer episode, it was more high comedy.
He was so cute and it was so goofy, and
Nelly was so just like stupid. She was like idiot
in love, like he's wonderful and handing him the little
viewer going, you'll like this one. It has pigs in it.
It's just it's hysterical and the Minnesota Pig Queen. I
(04:35):
really like the Luke one. We had fireworks and we
kissed on the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So did that did filming that episode make? Obviously it
made more of an impression on you. Do you think
it was because we were younger or what do you
think it was that the Pink Farmer episode made such
a big impression on you.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
It was the first time they let me be romantic
because yeah, Nelly had Laura and Nelly were always fighting
over a boy. We were eleven and we were fighting
over a boy, but none of the but the boys
didn't like us. It's just mere writing over a boy.
And they suddenly didn't like me. But somebody wanted to
marry me, somebod who's in love with me. Nelly was
really and we were kissing each other's face off and stuff,
(05:13):
and I was like, whoa, I get to be romantic
to lead it?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Fifteen? Whatever the heck I was? I think he said this, oh,
twenty seven, I don't know, thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Style was kind of quelt. I mean, he just really
was just a really sweet guy, is what he came across.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Absolutely darling person and uh yeah, definite late twenties. Yeah,
that's what was funny. His girlfriend shows up on the
set and see me, and she's like, Hi, Hi, I'm
his girlfriend. I'm just gonna I'm like, please, for the
love of God, tell me you do not seriously believe
I am a threat. For the love of please, please
please tell me you do not seriously believe there's a
fifteen year old Nelly Elson is like a problem that's
(05:53):
not No, that's not a.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Were you nervous because we were like, let's do this thing.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, he was blonde and cute, and yes I knew
he was older, but he was still, like you said,
gilas sweet, innocent darling. And he was a very good actor.
And I also was like, as I said, I went
into show business because I heard they might let me
kiss people. So you know, I would like.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Hello, Hello, amazing, amazing, Dean. What's yours either? I guess
there are two categories, right, like what's your favorite love episode?
And then what's the favorite love episode that you liked
filming the most?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I think the one we're going to talk about
was was really fun to shoot. And you know, talk
about Sweet sixteen because that's such a turning point moment
in the series sort of you know, sad love was
you know, days of sunshine, days of shadow with the
depression and you know, but love survived in that one.
(06:54):
This one we're going to talk about is fun because
it's Yang in it, and so you know, fun for
Valentine's Day. But take us there, all right?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Well, I will also say my favorite love it I
think once Almonzo hits the scene We're good, We're golden.
Those are like my favorite years or the Almonzo years
for sure. And the person and the person come on,
Laura Angleswilder person will come those two episodes forget about it,
forget about it, but honorable mention to what's the flashback
(07:29):
scene where we see young Caroline. Yeah, that story, my gosh,
just very sweet, just and not expected and just so wonderful.
But yeah, yeah, I was the kid that was like,
let's get to the later years or there's love. Yeah,
I was into it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, all right, I think fans really loved it too,
and I think you know when you well, I we'll
talk about.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, yes, put a pin in it. We'll come around
back to that, all right. Yeah. I love the Love
episodes and so many other episodes in so many ways.
And coming up, we're talking about today's special Love episode,
just in time for Valentine's Day. But first we are
coming to you from well, not the studios of ubn GO,
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but produced by the studios of ubn GO in Burbank, California.
This is the Little House fiftieth Anniversary Podcast Season two recap.
(08:48):
All right, Okay, this is gonna be fun today we're
talking about our episode that's on our list, number forty nine.
It's definitely love story, but it was a bumpy and
bumpy ride for Laura and Almonzo. Divorce Walnut Grove.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Style Divorce, Give Us Yeah, Divorce Walmut Grove Style was
episode seven of season seven, premiered on November tenth, nineteen
eighty written by Don Ballock, directed by Michael Landon, who
was Don Ballack for Don Ballock writers. And I think
I drove all of these guys crazy because I always
wanted to know what was coming next when I let breaks.
(09:26):
I was always heading to the office and working my
way to the back to get to the writers to
find out what was coming next. And these guys were
all John Dougan and Don Ballock were so great when
they were working on something that I was involved in,
so great about sharing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Oh wow, what was so? They knew what was coming next.
It wasn't like just being worked out in the room.
They had a plan for a well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I went in to see Don on this one, and
others like Wilder and Wilder went to see John Dugan
and then Don Ballock on this one that we're talking about,
and they were well into you know, they were well
into the polishing of these scripts, so this was going
to be like the next thing that came to us
as white pages on the stage the day, two days
(10:19):
before you're going to start shooting it. So I loved
talking to these guys. And well, the reason.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Why I asked is because sometimes you hear that once
they get to know the actor more, then they write
for the actor and things sort of change and shift
right to accommodate the strengths and what the fans like.
And so it's interesting to know if things had changed
or whether they had a plan and they stuck to
that plan. I mean, obviously he was going to end
(10:47):
up with lower Ingle's Wilder.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
I mean, yeah, no, absolutely, when fan that yeah, when
you know, when al Manzo was introduced to the beginning
of season six, people who read the books and knew
the books what was coming.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this was a question of how we got
there right. Michael didn't do it the way Laura wrote it.
He did it the way he did it, and this
was one of those episodes once they got there. You know, Alison,
we were talking about this that. I mean, one of
the things about this episode that has always sort of
(11:21):
bothered me is the sort of un nuanced way in
which Laura and I fought with each other. You know,
when when Michael and Karen fought, there was always love,
you know, there was always a cushion, a bubble of
love underneath the argument. Melissa and I just went at it.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It was from the very beginning of your relationship. I mean,
I remember thinking like, oof, they're in trouble. Girl, Like, girl,
you in trouble if this is the guy you're marrying
right now, because both of you need to be in
couples therapy and yes, out, yes you're both too feisty
and you fly.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Off the handle over everything and her Laura's coping method
for conflict since the show began. I will turn and
run across the prairie, Raine, flying perhaps all the way
to twallow me Sonora, California, and climb a mountain. Run
It's like what And then as an adult, just I
(12:21):
gotta go and it's run out of door. Now who
can do that?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They both mellow out later on, but in the beginning years,
I'm not joking, I remember thinking like this is this
is not good this is not good news. That's how
they're functioning, right now, and I don't know we should
say the synopsis before we start, yeah, yea.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, So tell me to explain what are we
doing another one of these? Okay, but it's true. It's
true here newly wins Laura on on. So I've been
having to relatively harm lose arguments lately, but it reaches
a whole new level when Laura suspects that he's cheating
on her, which by the way, she just kind of
always did every five minutes for absolutely no reason. But
(13:04):
yet Okay, decides to leave him. I'll elsewhere. Charles is
the proud odor of a beautiful new glass window, but
installing it is a little more challenging than he anticipated
because hart yark Yet because we have to have ha.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Ha and a wonderful it's a wonderful story runner that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You are. You are are super young in this and
in real real life, which because I just saw this episode,
I just randomly saw this episode a few days agot
for you. It was this great real Lorengswelder was extremely
opinionated and had a heck of a temper and was
speisty as all get out and absolutely gave many the
business and they probably had some severe arguments because she
(13:46):
absolutely she did not back down, and he liked that
about her, and in the real life and in the book,
he pursued her more him and she initially had said
things about, well, I don't know that I'm ever getting married,
so the real lord, it's not impossible that this was
their relationship. That is not impossible.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
This is an argument in my household every now and then,
like women, have you cooked them at dinner? And I'm like,
I'm busy, I have a job.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You can damnself that And hasn't hasn't every woman, even
women who like cooking, Even women have agreed to yes,
I've got to cook dinner. Gone not today, okay now
because it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah no.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's it's it's funny. But that tone of the arguments,
I think, Panela, what you just said about they didn't
fight fair, They didn't fight like now they they were
committed to coming out on the other side of.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
This, right right, because you were dumb kids.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah and your boat.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You both are feisty, which is also why you work
so well together.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But ooh girl, I will say we she and I.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Had some tough days on that set working together me.
It was like it was bang bang bang, But.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You know how old was she again? Teenager? Teenager? And
having been teenager girl on set myself, I had a
distinct advantage. Now people would say, oh, terrible thing to say.
You can't say everything is biological. But once a month
things would be extraordinarily difficult. It would be like I
(15:32):
got to take about another eight taile it all, and
you know, eh, it's very hard to go to work
in SeeMe Valley where it's one hundred and ten degrees
and we're all those clothes and work all day and
when you're having you know, and it's difficult. Now, I
had the advantage that if I didn't feel we're up
to it, it would often be an episode where I
was being particularly awful, and as the great Katherine MacGregor
(15:53):
always used to say or use it, and I did,
and I absolutely can. I mentioned my book, I can
go through episodes ago. Yep, that was that time, and
that was my time, and it does happen. Funny Melissa
was a teenage girl and hello, things happen. And if
she's having like rampant pms and having to be on
(16:14):
the show where she's like technically responsible for the employeeent
of like three hundred people, geez Si and also Dean
Butler and then this is why and I gotta kiss
him and I don't know what's happening. Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
She's gonna have maybe swing or two. Oh. It was constant, though,
Like there was never a time where you were like, oh,
finally we sort of settled into.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I think that there there were points when we did.
I think that there was you know, we jumping when
we stepped into season nine. I think there was a
commitment that we had to we had to do this
together because.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
A well, and also she finally went through puberty by
season nine. I mean, hello, I.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Mean this is everything got much easier when she started dating,
by the way, boom got much easier, got.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
A real She's had a real boyfriend for real.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I started watching this episode and I was like, season
seven brought to you by finally she's going through puberty.
My god, my god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, but we we do go at it and this
and I you know, I've read comments on chatboards and
all that. I mean people really looked at this one
and thought she was younger, more immature in this one
than she was when she was eleven or twelve.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I am seeing people comment why is Laura being such
a in this episode? Insert inflammatory epithet there. They're like, oh, wow,
she's really being She was really mad.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
She's so mad at you.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And what got me was the whole thing she sees
you this talking to this woman. It's just like the
wiping the water off the show Girl's back, ridiculous fright story.
And she lose, and woman looks remarkably like the girl
that was in the episode, and she beats her up.
(18:15):
She goes full on like it's Nelly and Laura.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
It's rolling around the street with Springer again, Spring Jerry
all around her kids, cheering them.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, yelling them on. It's like, oh my god,
yes herringe.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Also just honorable mention to that school scene where she's
a very very very bad.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Teacher and bad performance.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Right, And I just want to say, there is a
hilarious clip on YouTube that's been up there for years
of that scene and the title of the clip in
all caps is just worst period teacher period ever.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know, she's awful.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I mean, if a teacher ever acted that, Like, my god.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Tries to soften the moment, right, out of the room.
It's like, yeah, come on, I was gonna say, on
the up side of this, I got to sing a
little bit, which was, you know, which was sort of
fun not sing well, but I did get to sing
a little bit. And at the end I get to
really fake playing the guitar badly, but had well.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He played the violin, so I think you're allowed to
fake badly.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But being PA was installing the window and the music
super Bowl, we're jumping way to the end of this.
The music supervisor came up to me, and this is
a really you know, nice woman, very attractive she you know,
she came up to she and she asked me very deliberately,
as she's trying to figure out what to play for
(20:03):
real to cover the guitar in this, what were you
doing with this? What were you hearing in your head?
Because I have no idea how we're going to play
this because the strumming makes no sense at all. And
I said, well, you know, I don't play the guitar,
so it's probably it's not surprising that the but it
(20:26):
had tempo on it, but it was tempo that made
no sense musically, and I think she really restled with
this and I when I saw it in the studio, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
And I thought you fake guitar better than Paul fake
violin because many people who study the violin played professional
or even people who took it for five minutes in school,
go yo, he is not playing the violin.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
When your fingers aren't even touching the strings, you're not
really playing the violin. I mean, it was bad, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Think that Michael just was. You know, I think Michael
probably his thinking, I'm just imagining. He's thinking, I've got
so much on my plate.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Sure I don't really can not have time.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And you know what, he did.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Get it over with.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
He just did it with such energy. Yes, yes that
you sort of and smiling and you just because Michael
that charm. You just forgave it. But I can't believe
the number of people who have come up to me
through the years and asked, did Michael really play the violin? Now,
maybe they're just asking looking, but I may say, oh
my god, look it's like air violin.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's playing the air. I didn't play the piano. Nelly
plays the piano.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I could always hide behind the keyboard.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's true. That's true. Look you I thought I heard
you say this one that you couldn't actually sing with
your real voice, which was actually a very nice voice,
that you had to sort of like dumbed down your
voice to not sound as good. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Went so when I went to no, I think I've
said that in defense trying to explain why this was
just so hokey awful. And I had gone to rehearse
this with David Rose at his house and he'd written
this little melody and the words have been written. I
don't think David wrote the word. Someone wrote the words.
And we're rehearsing this, and I'm thinking I can really
(22:26):
sort of croon this in a sort of a nice way.
I mean, this can be a romantic thing. And of
course they have playback on the stage, and the playback started,
and I've got the guitar in my hand and I
start to sing, and Michael comes up to me and said, no, no, no,
you're not doing it like that. I want Jill Billy bad,
(22:48):
he said, come on, I mean, I'd like to have
some kind of a possibility of singing sometime. He said, no, No,
it's going to be You're gonna do it bad, and
by god, I just leaned into those consonant sounds, the
(23:08):
twangy thing, and uh and it was the right decision
for the show. Yeah, I think, but it was. But
it was really disappointing in that moment. But you know, okay,
it's not gonna question you know, I didn't question anything.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But in the books, in the books, have you ever
heard the real laur and Geswalder, anyone mentioned, Oh, yes,
Elman's a boy. Could he play that guitar and singing? No?
That does seem to have never come up, So apparently
he did not put.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think of those additions to this.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
But I love that because it gave him a little
extra element of ooh, he's talented too, his handsome.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Talented. Not really, Yeah, but I loved working on that
with David Rose and going to his house that with
his you know, the famous railroad thing, the model railroad
thing that he had going and training engines in his
studio with his little tiny, upright piano Michael Brother. David
(24:14):
did not compose on some Steinway. He composed on like
a two octave piano, and that's and it was this
sort of you know, tiney sounding, but that's where he wrote.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
All up by himself a steinway.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
He could have bought anything he wanted, and this is
just where maybe he sort of was tapping into his
inner child maybe whatever it was. But he he did
do his work on this little upright piano that was
really not a great sounding instruments incredible and when his
orchestrator got a hold of everything, it all turned into
(24:55):
this beautiful thing. But those melodies came out of that head.
David Rose was a when you you know, Allison, you
get David to the I mean, David was a very
romantic character and he had us gentleness about him and
as Alison may know more about this than I do
in terse but quite the ladies man too.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
He was married to Judy Garland.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He was married to Judy Garland at one point.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, he married her when she was nineteen years old.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And I don't think he was her first husband. Wasn't
she married which is like a teenager?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Was David's second husband or second wife?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Second wife?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And I think married to Garson or something.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Was it that somebody's like that completely alandish. Yes, No,
he was married to stars. He's married to Garland and
he did and the Chu Chu tra. You could write
the che if you were small, and I wrote the
Ralie once house.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Did he ever come to set?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Sure, very barely.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And sometimes if you were looping, if you went into
the other studio, the orchestra was there and you could
watch them.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So would you say some orchestra se?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh? Absolutely? And how amazing David was conducting a sixty
piece orchestra on the stage in this recording studio and
nobody at home ever heard this music like that. It
was absolutely incredible to watch that scoring stage with all
the marks that would show up on the screen and
the que and these musicians. You have to realize how
(26:29):
great these studio players are.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Therefore they pick up the music, they put it down
in front of them and they play it and it's perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I was just a kid coming in for looping and
AA come around the corner and went, am I God?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Well?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And also what I love about his vision too, and
especially like you said, the b story in this is
that window pane story, which is hilarious. But I was like,
where did he come up with that? It's just so
funny and it's still works. It's genuinely funny. It's so clever.
But you know, David Rose's music also can have so
much humor to it, and it just adds to the
(27:09):
comedic elements whenever there is a comedic episode or comedic
qualities in an episode, my villain theme, yes, so good,
so good.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Okay. So when she attacks Brenda Sue in the street
in front of her kids teaching and everyone and everybody's mother,
she gets up and they got dirt on their faces
and clawing each other in the street. But why our
makeup people were so good? So I'm not sure what
possessed someone that day? She has this weird smear of
dirt on her face and it's Harry Potter freaking lightning
(27:44):
bolt on ours. Why does Laura have a Harry Potter
lightning bolt of dirt?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Don't know?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
What were they doing in the makeup department, dude, Like
sometimes sometimes it's so off, It's like, what's going Why
would they just go here?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Let me draw this on who decided that was the dirt?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
But I don't know. I don't get it, do you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't. I don't because you'd think because they took
polaroids of everything.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Anyone to say there's a continuity person like, what y
this was just a decision that got made, and I
think when you just off the top of my head,
I'm thinking it just sort of it adds to that
sort of innocent, innocent, guileless quality that the show has
(28:34):
where it's maybe a little clumsy in places.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you just buy in.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, you just buy in.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You say, Okay, this is what we're doing now. Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Or was it also we were supposed to realize how
ridiculous she was being, like, who can take this woman?
Seriously screening everybody for years drawn on her face.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, I'm looking at my notes and I can't believe
I forgot. This is the first thing on my notes.
And I will be damned if I don't talk about it,
which is, don't be damned, Dean, Dean bath time shut up.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yes, oh my god, did you see that deem.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Almost the other night in a bubble bath, the moment
I almost died, I almost.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I almost took pictures of it and put him up
on Facebook watching towels.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, that is that is That is a hashtag imaginary
boyfriend moment if I ever, if I ever saw one
before that make you feel Dean look.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And the dialogue was such a Michael. It was such
a Michael kind of a throwaway aside humor. Oh great,
you know I can use a sheet, but I'll probably
go to sleep tonight with a towel. You know. That
was such Michael humor. Now he didn't he didn't see
he did.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Write that one, no episode, super funny.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I said that was done, and we said that was
Don Ballack, right, so wrote that. But Michael ree Route
always yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's the kind of thing
that he would have that he That was definitely his sound,
that had a rhythm of his in it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
All I know is that we've seen you in the
ice back, but your chest was covered. We saw the
we saw the manly, manly arms, but not the chest.
But this one is full on.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah yeah, the hairy chest and all that.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
And I'm sure the very exposing Dean Butler.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know, but for a guy,
it was like, you know, you've been in swimsuits your
whole life. It's like, that's that's not a that's not
a big deal. I know, but for the viewers maybe
for the viewers, but to do it is not a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
I mean, to see a bare arm on Little House
in the Prairie was like, oh my god, sexy, sexy time.
So then to see a full like a man chest
and arms and knees is like it was. It was
very like, oh my god, touch the pearls and that.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Time for nineteen eighties, all for a guy on a show.
You're trying to be in sixteen magazine and Tiger Beat
and all the teams. So oh, shortless pick, there's the post.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Of that week.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Hella here it is.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yep, No, we did.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I did those. I was in all those. I was.
I was in Tiger Beat Team Beat with you know,
with Matt and Pat Laberteaux.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeh, yeh.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean we were doing this. We were doing layouts
together for those magazines when you were when you were
Little House.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Okay, so when you were doing those shoots for like
Tiger Beat, were you like in your head, were you like, oh, yeah,
I've made it, like this is it? Well?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That was the first or thing like that that I
had experienced, so, you know, it was pretty it was
you know, it's cool. I mean, it's a it's a
it's a fun.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
All that stuff is you know, all that's gone now.
But at the time that was that was sort of
a rite of or a passage point. Yes, for young
guys to be in that situation. I think everybody showed
up in those things at some point. If you're on television,
you did those magazines.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I lived in a bikini from like about seventy It
was like the hell, but that was the thing. It
was alternated between awesome, the world will see my beauty
and everyone love me and cringe, cringe, this is the
most embarrassing thing I've ever done in my life. At
the same time, yeah, yeah, you were always in a bikini,
(32:23):
and I try these photos, I you know, bod to kill,
but still in a bikini all the time, trying to
get those hot chick in the show jobs, like a
hot chick on Dynasty or something.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Okay, So then you said the din for the dinner scene,
the stew was undercooked. The soup was called. Is that
in real life or was that in the scene?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh? No, that was in the scene. We talked about it, right, Yes,
I mean we talked about now. I never I don't remember,
you know, actually we I did eat some of the food.
I don't rememb member, I don't have a memory of
the you know what the temperature food was, but I'm
sure Dean Wilson are a prop person, would have put
the food on the table cold. I mean it's like,
(33:09):
that's that's what he would have done. That would have
helped the reaction. And so that's what that was. And
but it just went to full. It just went from
like zero.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
It was like, oh, you know, how would you have
done it? Like, yeah, tell me, I think it would
be what would you have done?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well? Yeah, married today? I don't know that I would
have said a word about it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Sure, hello, hella, good answer.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
If Catherine asked is it hot enough? And if I
were given that opening to comment, I said, sure, maybe
we could heat this up a little bit, that would be.
But you know today, let's go in drop it in
the microwave for forty five weeks, all set?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Could you maybe you could for a minute. It is
a little get it's gotten a little.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Cool, but you know.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
But but in that situation, it went to you know,
from zero to one hundred in uh, you know, in
two seconds, and it's like, oh my god, are these
people going to survive this? No, we're not fighting like
two people who were committed to being together.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well, you were fighting like kids.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean, okay, well that's true. We were fighting like kids.
Where you go from one hundred and then you like
you're devastated. Well, later in the episode, after she leaves,
you know, he's sormoping around the house and he's picking
up her night gown and looking at it and thinking
about her, and you know, so all of that, and
she's like devastated that he's you know, having this having
(34:39):
this flaing with Brenda Sue Longworth. But he knows all
along that it's you know, that has nothing to do
with anything, and so the audience at least knows where
his heart is. They know that he's in. As we
played it, it was harder to tell that.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, that was moments again the dinner thing, because okay,
because he's like being very childish. Why is I said that,
why isn't this? Why is? But no, you take it
together and she's like what. But I had a friend
who used to refer to and he cracked me up.
He said, ah, yes, well you know what we call
five o'clock? What the divorce hour? And he called five
(35:19):
to six o'clock the divorce hour. He was an attorney.
And I said what he says people come home around
that time. Everyone's hungry, their blood sugar is crashing, they're tired.
If they had a bad day, they're feeling they're worst
about the bad day. They haven't had time to process it.
So the guy's like, oh my god, I'm starving. Why
is it? And she's like, do not even talk to
(35:39):
me about your freaking dinner. And that's the moment that
both people are in the worst possible mood. They're going
to be an all day is at that moment with
blood sugar and everything else. And that is when people
want to murder each other. Is right around five o'clock.
And he said it's totally normal. I said, yah, six
or seven, everybody's like, had somebody to eat, They're fine,
but whoa, yeah, boom divorce hour. I also I thought you.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I call IKEA the divorce maker. I call it is
a divorce maker. It's huge, It's overwhelming. You might not
know what you want, you might get overwhelmed by the choices,
you might disagree on what you want. It is a
terrible place for relationships. Incle been in the IKEA too
(36:26):
many times where I was like, we are breaking up.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Officially when we get this, then I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I don't care. There is something about an Ikea. I've
called it the divorce maker for years. Thank god they're
going on the prairie. Laura and Almanza would never never
have survived the Ikea back there, back.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You have to go downstairs and just get some Swedish
meatballs and take a moment, and then you can go
back in.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
It is blood sugar raise, that's all.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
That's so funny. On a personal note, when Catherine and
I go shopping together, I want to get into a store.
I make decisions really quickly quick. Yeah Catherine. I mean
Catherine does not love to shop, but she has to
look at everything everything to make the right decision. And
(37:19):
whether it's like picking out the right tomato or the
right glass, it is a very laborious process. And I
know I have found myself at time saying, oh, come on,
it's a tomato.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Do not step into an Ikea together.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Then we don't do that. Yeah, we haven't gone to
Ikia much.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Don't do it, yes.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Forever, because there's this path you like, can't leave, you
can't leave your trapped You're like, okay, I'm done, I'm done.
You got the couch.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We're done.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We picked the couch. How do we get out of her?
You have to follow the l.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Store. Yes, to get out. You are trapped.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And yeah, we need to take a quick break and
then we need to wrap this up.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yes, that's what we're going to say.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
These are the important things.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I know, But we were running out of time because
Tony's got a show and the.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes, we have to go. We'll be We'll be right back,
everybody with more talk about Ikea. No, I'm just joking.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
We're talking about style.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Come back, all right, hi, everybody, we're back. We've discussed
(38:39):
Ikea at nauseum, and now we're back to Lama Grove,
the force of all micro style. Now we're in sort
of act two of this.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Well we're actually we're in act four now, given the
time that we have. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I love
the way Michael structured this, or the don don and
Michael structured this. And you know that turning point moment
at the end of guess when you act end of
act three, what happens at the end of I've got
(39:10):
it noted here, end of act three. Well that's you know,
get in the wagon. Oh no, so we're as we
race towards the end of the end of act three.
We have missus Olsen, who is spreading rumors about the
breakup Nels, who gets a little ticked off and cuts her,
which is really fun watching them go at it switch
(39:34):
and then finally and then Paw and Almonzo run each
other on the road and everything sounds fine, but Ma
is finally convinced that there's a problem because she reads
My Only Love Brenda Sue.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Longword up says, you're right, gotta ditch this guy, get
him out.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, And then Pa Pa has come around and and
so now we're off to the Wilder house to hear
a bad singing of My Only Love and that quick
little I mean you sort of hear Michael's Michael was
a man of the world and talking about divorced and
you're going to be here for the evening and blah
(40:13):
blah blah. I mean, that was very uncharles way he
said all that, but it was you know, he was
making he was covering that point. And Mos convinced, and
everything's fine, and then they they.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Were going to put him up, her parents were going
to back her up and put his stuff out on
the curb, which I kind of liked that they were like,
we're going over with you, which is going over with
you now?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
And you know it's funny. This is the first time
I actually thought like, what would actually happen if that happened,
Like if if she this is a young woman who, like,
what story would they have told to save her.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know, honor or her?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Like that would have been bad. That would have been
really bad at that time.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh to make if they really.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Did make Yes, well, he was a cat.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
He was a major, major, major. Yeah. I will say
Brenda Sue Uh deserve to get beaten up. She's horrible.
She's a little braggert about her songs, and then she's
flirty flirty with Almonzo and then she's like snippety snippy
(41:17):
with Laura, and she deserved that mud slinging that she
got in.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
She could have I'm not his girlfriend, it's the thing
he need a song I wrote. No, she could have
cleared it all up right there.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And then I love Karen's You Will Be Silent. Yes,
it's like Ma stepping in.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
It was Laura Jerry Springer and Ma was like where.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Is Yes, we're going to We've got to get control
of this. No, and then okay, I mean we're all
over the place to the end as we're racing for
the exit here. But I you know, I love at
the end when the glass gets broken for the bid
time because Brenda Sue was running away from Laura. And
then the end of the show is paw, everything's back
(42:04):
together again and pause, put in the old window, back
in the slot and love fine, And there's Laura Almanzuela
made up and Almonzel's playing the guitar badly and everything's.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Good and their relationship is perfect.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Everything's back on it fine, all cute, up for the
next fight over the next cold stew.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, they mellowed out. They figured it out in time,
They definitely figured it out.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
But yeah, those it was a Valentine's Day story. The
end was a Valentine thing. And this is why we're
here on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
My only love. Yeah, we get Almonzo in a bath
in the window pane.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
That's all you need.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
You need needs anything else, and then if you're lucky,
a bullet popcorn and call it a day.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Maybe that's Lauren Almonso didn't have popcorn in bed. That's
the problem, Charles. We did and it improves a relationship.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
It was one of the nicer scenes we did together
in bed. Bed scenes were not. That's another story for
another day. We need to we need to race for
the exit.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Oh my god, you are so leaving us on a cliffhanger.
All right, that's cruel, but I guess it'll make people
come back next week. Well maybe maybe we'll talk about
Dean and Melissa's bedroom scenes.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't think, but.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Maybe at some point come on here about it? Yes, okay, everyone,
thank you for joining us today. I'll be serious now.
Thank you, and remember whatever you do, don't do to
ikea with your partners. Tell you nothing else. Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.
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And I am here as always with our favorite prairie bitch,
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(02:54):
if he's your hashtag imaginary book right here, Allison, I
don't think so, but sure, I'll take this one for
the teeth, my hashtag.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Team.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Butler, Hi, So the two of you look wonderful for
our balance.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
This was not planned.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And look at you, but you're you look like two
red hearts. I mean, it's just like fantastic. But don't
we always you look but but but you're really on
the theme here. I'm in Butler blue as that is,
as is my inclination. But you too look great?
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Did not anything?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It's always good for Valentine's Day anyway, So we're good
to go. That's right, this is our Valentine's Day episode.
Let's let's talk a love.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Let's not talk about the love of.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Blanche please, Lord, Let's pretend that net happened.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, thank you, Let's just I still.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Can't wrap my mind about it around it there if
Phonsie was going to jump a shark in any episode
of the episode. Yeah, so it's weird anyway, what what?
What are your face episodes about love? In Little House? Also, well,
I guess do you have one? Or do you?
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Did you have?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Did you love one? Filming one as.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Much as you know me and Perceval, I mean, that
was so much fun to do when we were so
in love and it was so we were so perfectly
much the Pig Farmer episode, it was more high comedy.
He was so cute and it was so goofy, and
Nelly was so just like stupid. She was like idiot
in love, like he's wonderful and handing him the little
viewer going, you'll like this one. It has pigs in it.
It's just it's hysterical and the Minnesota Pig Queen. I
(04:35):
really like the Luke one. We had fireworks and we
kissed on the thing.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
So did that did filming that episode make? Obviously it
made more of an impression on you. Do you think
it was because we were younger or what do you
think it was that the Pink Farmer episode made such
a big impression on you.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
It was the first time they let me be romantic
because yeah, Nelly had Laura and Nelly were always fighting
over a boy. We were eleven and we were fighting
over a boy, but none of the but the boys
didn't like us. It's just mere writing over a boy.
And they suddenly didn't like me. But somebody wanted to
marry me, somebod who's in love with me. Nelly was
really and we were kissing each other's face off and stuff,
(05:13):
and I was like, whoa, I get to be romantic
to lead it?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
What?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Fifteen? Whatever the heck I was? I think he said this, oh,
twenty seven, I don't know, thirty five.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I know.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Style was kind of quelt. I mean, he just really
was just a really sweet guy, is what he came across.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Absolutely darling person and uh yeah, definite late twenties. Yeah,
that's what was funny. His girlfriend shows up on the
set and see me, and she's like, Hi, Hi, I'm
his girlfriend. I'm just gonna I'm like, please, for the
love of God, tell me you do not seriously believe
I am a threat. For the love of please, please
please tell me you do not seriously believe there's a
fifteen year old Nelly Elson is like a problem that's
(05:53):
not No, that's not a.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Were you nervous because we were like, let's do this thing.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
No, he was blonde and cute, and yes I knew
he was older, but he was still, like you said,
gilas sweet, innocent darling. And he was a very good actor.
And I also was like, as I said, I went
into show business because I heard they might let me
kiss people. So you know, I would like.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Hello, Hello, amazing, amazing, Dean. What's yours either? I guess
there are two categories, right, like what's your favorite love episode?
And then what's the favorite love episode that you liked
filming the most?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I think the one we're going to talk about
was was really fun to shoot. And you know, talk
about Sweet sixteen because that's such a turning point moment
in the series sort of you know, sad love was
you know, days of sunshine, days of shadow with the
depression and you know, but love survived in that one.
(06:54):
This one we're going to talk about is fun because
it's Yang in it, and so you know, fun for
Valentine's Day. But take us there, all right?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Well, I will also say my favorite love it I
think once Almonzo hits the scene We're good, We're golden.
Those are like my favorite years or the Almonzo years
for sure. And the person and the person come on,
Laura Angleswilder person will come those two episodes forget about it,
forget about it, but honorable mention to what's the flashback
(07:29):
scene where we see young Caroline. Yeah, that story, my gosh,
just very sweet, just and not expected and just so wonderful.
But yeah, yeah, I was the kid that was like,
let's get to the later years or there's love. Yeah,
I was into it.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Okay, all right, I think fans really loved it too,
and I think you know when you well, I we'll
talk about.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Okay, yes, put a pin in it. We'll come around
back to that, all right. Yeah. I love the Love
episodes and so many other episodes in so many ways.
And coming up, we're talking about today's special Love episode,
just in time for Valentine's Day. But first we are
coming to you from well, not the studios of ubn GO,
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but produced by the studios of ubn GO in Burbank, California.
This is the Little House fiftieth Anniversary Podcast Season two recap.
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All right, Okay, this is gonna be fun today we're
talking about our episode that's on our list, number forty nine.
It's definitely love story, but it was a bumpy and
bumpy ride for Laura and Almonzo. Divorce Walnut Grove.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Style Divorce, Give Us Yeah, Divorce Walmut Grove Style was
episode seven of season seven, premiered on November tenth, nineteen
eighty written by Don Ballock, directed by Michael Landon, who
was Don Ballack for Don Ballock writers. And I think
I drove all of these guys crazy because I always
wanted to know what was coming next when I let breaks.
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I was always heading to the office and working my
way to the back to get to the writers to
find out what was coming next. And these guys were
all John Dougan and Don Ballock were so great when
they were working on something that I was involved in,
so great about sharing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Oh wow, what was so? They knew what was coming next.
It wasn't like just being worked out in the room.
They had a plan for a well.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I went in to see Don on this one, and
others like Wilder and Wilder went to see John Dugan
and then Don Ballock on this one that we're talking about,
and they were well into you know, they were well
into the polishing of these scripts, so this was going
to be like the next thing that came to us
as white pages on the stage the day, two days
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before you're going to start shooting it. So I loved
talking to these guys. And well, the reason.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Why I asked is because sometimes you hear that once
they get to know the actor more, then they write
for the actor and things sort of change and shift
right to accommodate the strengths and what the fans like.
And so it's interesting to know if things had changed
or whether they had a plan and they stuck to
that plan. I mean, obviously he was going to end
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up with lower Ingle's Wilder.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
I mean, yeah, no, absolutely, when fan that yeah, when
you know, when al Manzo was introduced to the beginning
of season six, people who read the books and knew
the books what was coming.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I mean, this was a question of how we got
there right. Michael didn't do it the way Laura wrote it.
He did it the way he did it, and this
was one of those episodes once they got there. You know, Alison,
we were talking about this that. I mean, one of
the things about this episode that has always sort of
(11:21):
bothered me is the sort of un nuanced way in
which Laura and I fought with each other. You know,
when when Michael and Karen fought, there was always love,
you know, there was always a cushion, a bubble of
love underneath the argument. Melissa and I just went at it.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It was from the very beginning of your relationship. I mean,
I remember thinking like, oof, they're in trouble. Girl, Like, girl,
you in trouble if this is the guy you're marrying
right now, because both of you need to be in
couples therapy and yes, out, yes you're both too feisty
and you fly.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Off the handle over everything and her Laura's coping method
for conflict since the show began. I will turn and
run across the prairie, Raine, flying perhaps all the way
to twallow me Sonora, California, and climb a mountain. Run
It's like what And then as an adult, just I
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gotta go and it's run out of door. Now who
can do that?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They both mellow out later on, but in the beginning years,
I'm not joking, I remember thinking like this is this
is not good this is not good news. That's how
they're functioning, right now, and I don't know we should
say the synopsis before we start, yeah, yea.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, So tell me to explain what are we
doing another one of these? Okay, but it's true. It's
true here newly wins Laura on on. So I've been
having to relatively harm lose arguments lately, but it reaches
a whole new level when Laura suspects that he's cheating
on her, which by the way, she just kind of
always did every five minutes for absolutely no reason. But
(13:04):
yet Okay, decides to leave him. I'll elsewhere. Charles is
the proud odor of a beautiful new glass window, but
installing it is a little more challenging than he anticipated
because hart yark Yet because we have to have ha.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Ha and a wonderful it's a wonderful story runner that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You are. You are are super young in this and
in real real life, which because I just saw this episode,
I just randomly saw this episode a few days agot
for you. It was this great real Lorengswelder was extremely
opinionated and had a heck of a temper and was
speisty as all get out and absolutely gave many the
business and they probably had some severe arguments because she
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absolutely she did not back down, and he liked that
about her, and in the real life and in the book,
he pursued her more him and she initially had said
things about, well, I don't know that I'm ever getting married,
so the real lord, it's not impossible that this was
their relationship. That is not impossible.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
This is an argument in my household every now and then,
like women, have you cooked them at dinner? And I'm like,
I'm busy, I have a job.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You can damnself that And hasn't hasn't every woman, even
women who like cooking, Even women have agreed to yes,
I've got to cook dinner. Gone not today, okay now
because it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah no.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's it's it's funny. But that tone of the arguments,
I think, Panela, what you just said about they didn't
fight fair, They didn't fight like now they they were
committed to coming out on the other side of.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
This, right right, because you were dumb kids.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah and your boat.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You both are feisty, which is also why you work
so well together.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But ooh girl, I will say we she and I.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Had some tough days on that set working together me.
It was like it was bang bang bang, But.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You know how old was she again? Teenager? Teenager? And
having been teenager girl on set myself, I had a
distinct advantage. Now people would say, oh, terrible thing to say.
You can't say everything is biological. But once a month
things would be extraordinarily difficult. It would be like I
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got to take about another eight taile it all, and
you know, eh, it's very hard to go to work
in SeeMe Valley where it's one hundred and ten degrees
and we're all those clothes and work all day and
when you're having you know, and it's difficult. Now, I
had the advantage that if I didn't feel we're up
to it, it would often be an episode where I
was being particularly awful, and as the great Katherine MacGregor
(15:53):
always used to say or use it, and I did,
and I absolutely can. I mentioned my book, I can
go through episodes ago. Yep, that was that time, and
that was my time, and it does happen. Funny Melissa
was a teenage girl and hello, things happen. And if
she's having like rampant pms and having to be on
(16:14):
the show where she's like technically responsible for the employeeent
of like three hundred people, geez Si and also Dean
Butler and then this is why and I gotta kiss
him and I don't know what's happening. Yeah, she's good.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
She's gonna have maybe swing or two. Oh. It was constant, though,
Like there was never a time where you were like, oh,
finally we sort of settled into.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I think that there there were points when we did.
I think that there was you know, we jumping when
we stepped into season nine. I think there was a
commitment that we had to we had to do this
together because.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
A well, and also she finally went through puberty by
season nine. I mean, hello, I.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Mean this is everything got much easier when she started dating,
by the way, boom got much easier, got.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
A real She's had a real boyfriend for real.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
I started watching this episode and I was like, season
seven brought to you by finally she's going through puberty.
My god, my god, thank god.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, but we we do go at it and this
and I you know, I've read comments on chatboards and
all that. I mean people really looked at this one
and thought she was younger, more immature in this one
than she was when she was eleven or twelve.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I am seeing people comment why is Laura being such
a in this episode? Insert inflammatory epithet there. They're like, oh, wow,
she's really being She was really mad.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
She's so mad at you.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And what got me was the whole thing she sees
you this talking to this woman. It's just like the
wiping the water off the show Girl's back, ridiculous fright story.
And she lose, and woman looks remarkably like the girl
that was in the episode, and she beats her up.
(18:15):
She goes full on like it's Nelly and Laura.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
It's rolling around the street with Springer again, Spring Jerry
all around her kids, cheering them.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, yelling them on. It's like, oh my god,
yes herringe.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Also just honorable mention to that school scene where she's
a very very very bad.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Teacher and bad performance.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Right, And I just want to say, there is a
hilarious clip on YouTube that's been up there for years
of that scene and the title of the clip in
all caps is just worst period teacher period ever.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
You know, she's awful.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I mean, if a teacher ever acted that, Like, my god.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Tries to soften the moment, right, out of the room.
It's like, yeah, come on, I was gonna say, on
the up side of this, I got to sing a
little bit, which was, you know, which was sort of
fun not sing well, but I did get to sing
a little bit. And at the end I get to
really fake playing the guitar badly, but had well.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He played the violin, so I think you're allowed to
fake badly.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But being PA was installing the window and the music
super Bowl, we're jumping way to the end of this.
The music supervisor came up to me, and this is
a really you know, nice woman, very attractive she you know,
she came up to she and she asked me very deliberately,
as she's trying to figure out what to play for
(20:03):
real to cover the guitar in this, what were you
doing with this? What were you hearing in your head?
Because I have no idea how we're going to play
this because the strumming makes no sense at all. And
I said, well, you know, I don't play the guitar,
so it's probably it's not surprising that the but it
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had tempo on it, but it was tempo that made
no sense musically, and I think she really restled with
this and I when I saw it in the studio, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
And I thought you fake guitar better than Paul fake
violin because many people who study the violin played professional
or even people who took it for five minutes in school,
go yo, he is not playing the violin.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
When your fingers aren't even touching the strings, you're not
really playing the violin. I mean, it was bad, and I.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Think that Michael just was. You know, I think Michael
probably his thinking, I'm just imagining. He's thinking, I've got
so much on my plate.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Sure I don't really can not have time.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And you know what, he did.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Get it over with.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
He just did it with such energy. Yes, yes that
you sort of and smiling and you just because Michael
that charm. You just forgave it. But I can't believe
the number of people who have come up to me
through the years and asked, did Michael really play the violin? Now,
maybe they're just asking looking, but I may say, oh
my god, look it's like air violin.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
He's playing the air. I didn't play the piano. Nelly
plays the piano.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I could always hide behind the keyboard.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's true. That's true. Look you I thought I heard
you say this one that you couldn't actually sing with
your real voice, which was actually a very nice voice,
that you had to sort of like dumbed down your
voice to not sound as good. Is that true?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Went so when I went to no, I think I've
said that in defense trying to explain why this was
just so hokey awful. And I had gone to rehearse
this with David Rose at his house and he'd written
this little melody and the words have been written. I
don't think David wrote the word. Someone wrote the words.
And we're rehearsing this, and I'm thinking I can really
(22:26):
sort of croon this in a sort of a nice way.
I mean, this can be a romantic thing. And of
course they have playback on the stage, and the playback started,
and I've got the guitar in my hand and I
start to sing, and Michael comes up to me and said, no, no, no,
you're not doing it like that. I want Jill Billy bad,
(22:48):
he said, come on, I mean, I'd like to have
some kind of a possibility of singing sometime. He said, no, No,
it's going to be You're gonna do it bad, and
by god, I just leaned into those consonant sounds, the
(23:08):
twangy thing, and uh and it was the right decision
for the show. Yeah, I think, but it was. But
it was really disappointing in that moment. But you know, okay,
it's not gonna question you know, I didn't question anything.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
But in the books, in the books, have you ever
heard the real laur and Geswalder, anyone mentioned, Oh, yes,
Elman's a boy. Could he play that guitar and singing? No?
That does seem to have never come up, So apparently
he did not put.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
I think of those additions to this.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
But I love that because it gave him a little
extra element of ooh, he's talented too, his handsome.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Talented. Not really, Yeah, but I loved working on that
with David Rose and going to his house that with
his you know, the famous railroad thing, the model railroad
thing that he had going and training engines in his
studio with his little tiny, upright piano Michael Brother. David
(24:14):
did not compose on some Steinway. He composed on like
a two octave piano, and that's and it was this
sort of you know, tiney sounding, but that's where he wrote.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
All up by himself a steinway.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
He could have bought anything he wanted, and this is
just where maybe he sort of was tapping into his
inner child maybe whatever it was. But he he did
do his work on this little upright piano that was
really not a great sounding instruments incredible and when his
orchestrator got a hold of everything, it all turned into
(24:55):
this beautiful thing. But those melodies came out of that head.
David Rose was a when you you know, Allison, you
get David to the I mean, David was a very
romantic character and he had us gentleness about him and
as Alison may know more about this than I do
in terse but quite the ladies man too.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
He was married to Judy Garland.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He was married to Judy Garland at one point.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, he married her when she was nineteen years old.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And I don't think he was her first husband. Wasn't
she married which is like a teenager?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Was David's second husband or second wife?
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Second wife?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And I think married to Garson or something.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Was it that somebody's like that completely alandish. Yes, No,
he was married to stars. He's married to Garland and
he did and the Chu Chu tra. You could write
the che if you were small, and I wrote the
Ralie once house.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Did he ever come to set?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Sure, very barely.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And sometimes if you were looping, if you went into
the other studio, the orchestra was there and you could
watch them.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So would you say some orchestra se?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh? Absolutely? And how amazing David was conducting a sixty
piece orchestra on the stage in this recording studio and
nobody at home ever heard this music like that. It
was absolutely incredible to watch that scoring stage with all
the marks that would show up on the screen and
the que and these musicians. You have to realize how
(26:29):
great these studio players are.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Therefore they pick up the music, they put it down
in front of them and they play it and it's perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
I was just a kid coming in for looping and
AA come around the corner and went, am I God?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Well?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And also what I love about his vision too, and
especially like you said, the b story in this is
that window pane story, which is hilarious. But I was like,
where did he come up with that? It's just so
funny and it's still works. It's genuinely funny. It's so clever.
But you know, David Rose's music also can have so
much humor to it, and it just adds to the
(27:09):
comedic elements whenever there is a comedic episode or comedic
qualities in an episode, my villain theme, yes, so good,
so good.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Okay. So when she attacks Brenda Sue in the street
in front of her kids teaching and everyone and everybody's mother,
she gets up and they got dirt on their faces
and clawing each other in the street. But why our
makeup people were so good? So I'm not sure what
possessed someone that day? She has this weird smear of
dirt on her face and it's Harry Potter freaking lightning
(27:44):
bolt on ours. Why does Laura have a Harry Potter
lightning bolt of dirt?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Don't know?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
What were they doing in the makeup department, dude, Like
sometimes sometimes it's so off, It's like, what's going Why
would they just go here?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Let me draw this on who decided that was the dirt?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
But I don't know. I don't get it, do you?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I don't. I don't because you'd think because they took
polaroids of everything.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Anyone to say there's a continuity person like, what y
this was just a decision that got made, and I
think when you just off the top of my head,
I'm thinking it just sort of it adds to that
sort of innocent, innocent, guileless quality that the show has
(28:34):
where it's maybe a little clumsy in places.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you just buy in.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, you just buy in.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
You say, Okay, this is what we're doing now. Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Or was it also we were supposed to realize how
ridiculous she was being, like, who can take this woman?
Seriously screening everybody for years drawn on her face.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Yeah, I'm looking at my notes and I can't believe
I forgot. This is the first thing on my notes.
And I will be damned if I don't talk about it,
which is, don't be damned, Dean, Dean bath time shut up.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yes, oh my god, did you see that deem.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Almost the other night in a bubble bath, the moment
I almost died, I almost.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I almost took pictures of it and put him up
on Facebook watching towels.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah, that is that is That is a hashtag imaginary
boyfriend moment if I ever, if I ever saw one
before that make you feel Dean look.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And the dialogue was such a Michael. It was such
a Michael kind of a throwaway aside humor. Oh great,
you know I can use a sheet, but I'll probably
go to sleep tonight with a towel. You know. That
was such Michael humor. Now he didn't he didn't see
he did.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Write that one, no episode, super funny.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I said that was done, and we said that was
Don Ballack, right, so wrote that. But Michael ree Route
always yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's the kind of thing
that he would have that he That was definitely his sound,
that had a rhythm of his in it.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
All I know is that we've seen you in the
ice back, but your chest was covered. We saw the
we saw the manly, manly arms, but not the chest.
But this one is full on.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah yeah, the hairy chest and all that.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
And I'm sure the very exposing Dean Butler.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know, but for a guy,
it was like, you know, you've been in swimsuits your
whole life. It's like, that's that's not a that's not
a big deal. I know, but for the viewers maybe
for the viewers, but to do it is not a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
I mean, to see a bare arm on Little House
in the Prairie was like, oh my god, sexy, sexy time.
So then to see a full like a man chest
and arms and knees is like it was. It was
very like, oh my god, touch the pearls and that.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Time for nineteen eighties, all for a guy on a show.
You're trying to be in sixteen magazine and Tiger Beat
and all the teams. So oh, shortless pick, there's the post.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Of that week.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Hella here it is.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yep, No, we did.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I did those. I was in all those. I was.
I was in Tiger Beat Team Beat with you know,
with Matt and Pat Laberteaux.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeh, yeh.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean we were doing this. We were doing layouts
together for those magazines when you were when you were
Little House.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Okay, so when you were doing those shoots for like
Tiger Beat, were you like in your head, were you like, oh, yeah,
I've made it, like this is it? Well?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That was the first or thing like that that I
had experienced, so, you know, it was pretty it was
you know, it's cool. I mean, it's a it's a
it's a fun.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
All that stuff is you know, all that's gone now.
But at the time that was that was sort of
a rite of or a passage point. Yes, for young
guys to be in that situation. I think everybody showed
up in those things at some point. If you're on television,
you did those magazines.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
I lived in a bikini from like about seventy It
was like the hell, but that was the thing. It
was alternated between awesome, the world will see my beauty
and everyone love me and cringe, cringe, this is the
most embarrassing thing I've ever done in my life. At
the same time, yeah, yeah, you were always in a bikini,
(32:23):
and I try these photos, I you know, bod to kill,
but still in a bikini all the time, trying to
get those hot chick in the show jobs, like a
hot chick on Dynasty or something.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Okay, So then you said the din for the dinner scene,
the stew was undercooked. The soup was called. Is that
in real life or was that in the scene?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Oh? No, that was in the scene. We talked about it, right, Yes,
I mean we talked about now. I never I don't remember,
you know, actually we I did eat some of the food.
I don't rememb member, I don't have a memory of
the you know what the temperature food was, but I'm
sure Dean Wilson are a prop person, would have put
the food on the table cold. I mean it's like,
(33:09):
that's that's what he would have done. That would have
helped the reaction. And so that's what that was. And
but it just went to full. It just went from
like zero.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
It was like, oh, you know, how would you have
done it? Like, yeah, tell me, I think it would
be what would you have done?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well? Yeah, married today? I don't know that I would
have said a word about it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Sure, hello, hella, good answer.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
No.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
If Catherine asked is it hot enough? And if I
were given that opening to comment, I said, sure, maybe
we could heat this up a little bit, that would be.
But you know today, let's go in drop it in
the microwave for forty five weeks, all set?
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Could you maybe you could for a minute. It is
a little get it's gotten a little.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Cool, but you know.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
But but in that situation, it went to you know,
from zero to one hundred in uh, you know, in
two seconds, and it's like, oh my god, are these
people going to survive this? No, we're not fighting like
two people who were committed to being together.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Well, you were fighting like kids.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I mean, okay, well that's true. We were fighting like kids.
Where you go from one hundred and then you like
you're devastated. Well, later in the episode, after she leaves,
you know, he's sormoping around the house and he's picking
up her night gown and looking at it and thinking
about her, and you know, so all of that, and
she's like devastated that he's you know, having this having
(34:39):
this flaing with Brenda Sue Longworth. But he knows all
along that it's you know, that has nothing to do
with anything, and so the audience at least knows where
his heart is. They know that he's in. As we
played it, it was harder to tell that.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, that was moments again the dinner thing, because okay,
because he's like being very childish. Why is I said that,
why isn't this? Why is? But no, you take it
together and she's like what. But I had a friend
who used to refer to and he cracked me up.
He said, ah, yes, well you know what we call
five o'clock? What the divorce hour? And he called five
(35:19):
to six o'clock the divorce hour. He was an attorney.
And I said what he says people come home around
that time. Everyone's hungry, their blood sugar is crashing, they're tired.
If they had a bad day, they're feeling they're worst
about the bad day. They haven't had time to process it.
So the guy's like, oh my god, I'm starving. Why
is it? And she's like, do not even talk to
(35:39):
me about your freaking dinner. And that's the moment that
both people are in the worst possible mood. They're going
to be an all day is at that moment with
blood sugar and everything else. And that is when people
want to murder each other. Is right around five o'clock.
And he said it's totally normal. I said, yah, six
or seven, everybody's like, had somebody to eat, They're fine,
but whoa, yeah, boom divorce hour. I also I thought you.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I call IKEA the divorce maker. I call it is
a divorce maker. It's huge, It's overwhelming. You might not
know what you want, you might get overwhelmed by the choices,
you might disagree on what you want. It is a
terrible place for relationships. Incle been in the IKEA too
(36:26):
many times where I was like, we are breaking up.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Officially when we get this, then I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I don't care. There is something about an Ikea. I've
called it the divorce maker for years. Thank god they're
going on the prairie. Laura and Almanza would never never
have survived the Ikea back there, back.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
You have to go downstairs and just get some Swedish
meatballs and take a moment, and then you can go
back in.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
It is blood sugar raise, that's all.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
That's so funny. On a personal note, when Catherine and
I go shopping together, I want to get into a store.
I make decisions really quickly quick. Yeah Catherine. I mean
Catherine does not love to shop, but she has to
look at everything everything to make the right decision. And
(37:19):
whether it's like picking out the right tomato or the
right glass, it is a very laborious process. And I
know I have found myself at time saying, oh, come on,
it's a tomato.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Do not step into an Ikea together.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Then we don't do that. Yeah, we haven't gone to
Ikia much.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Don't do it, yes.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
Forever, because there's this path you like, can't leave, you
can't leave your trapped You're like, okay, I'm done, I'm done.
You got the couch.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
We're done.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
We picked the couch. How do we get out of her?
You have to follow the l.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Store. Yes, to get out. You are trapped.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And yeah, we need to take a quick break and
then we need to wrap this up.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yes, that's what we're going to say.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
These are the important things.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I know, But we were running out of time because
Tony's got a show and the.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes, we have to go. We'll be We'll be right back,
everybody with more talk about Ikea. No, I'm just joking.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
We're talking about style.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Come back, all right, hi, everybody, we're back. We've discussed
(38:39):
Ikea at nauseum, and now we're back to Lama Grove,
the force of all micro style. Now we're in sort
of act two of this.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Well we're actually we're in act four now, given the
time that we have. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I love
the way Michael structured this, or the don don and
Michael structured this. And you know that turning point moment
at the end of guess when you act end of
act three, what happens at the end of I've got
(39:10):
it noted here, end of act three. Well that's you know,
get in the wagon. Oh no, so we're as we
race towards the end of the end of act three.
We have missus Olsen, who is spreading rumors about the
breakup Nels, who gets a little ticked off and cuts her,
which is really fun watching them go at it switch
(39:34):
and then finally and then Paw and Almonzo run each
other on the road and everything sounds fine, but Ma
is finally convinced that there's a problem because she reads
My Only Love Brenda Sue.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Longword up says, you're right, gotta ditch this guy, get
him out.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, And then Pa Pa has come around and and
so now we're off to the Wilder house to hear
a bad singing of My Only Love and that quick
little I mean you sort of hear Michael's Michael was
a man of the world and talking about divorced and
you're going to be here for the evening and blah
(40:13):
blah blah. I mean, that was very uncharles way he
said all that, but it was you know, he was
making he was covering that point. And Mos convinced, and
everything's fine, and then they they.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Were going to put him up, her parents were going
to back her up and put his stuff out on
the curb, which I kind of liked that they were like,
we're going over with you, which is going over with
you now?
Speaker 4 (40:33):
And you know it's funny. This is the first time
I actually thought like, what would actually happen if that happened,
Like if if she this is a young woman who, like,
what story would they have told to save her.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
You know, honor or her?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Like that would have been bad. That would have been
really bad at that time.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh to make if they really.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
Did make Yes, well, he was a cat.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
He was a major, major, major. Yeah. I will say
Brenda Sue Uh deserve to get beaten up. She's horrible.
She's a little braggert about her songs, and then she's
flirty flirty with Almonzo and then she's like snippety snippy
(41:17):
with Laura, and she deserved that mud slinging that she
got in.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
She could have I'm not his girlfriend, it's the thing
he need a song I wrote. No, she could have
cleared it all up right there.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
And then I love Karen's You Will Be Silent. Yes,
it's like Ma stepping in.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
It was Laura Jerry Springer and Ma was like where.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Is Yes, we're going to We've got to get control
of this. No, and then okay, I mean we're all
over the place to the end as we're racing for
the exit here. But I you know, I love at
the end when the glass gets broken for the bid
time because Brenda Sue was running away from Laura. And
then the end of the show is paw, everything's back
(42:04):
together again and pause, put in the old window, back
in the slot and love fine, And there's Laura Almanzuela
made up and Almonzel's playing the guitar badly and everything's.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Good and their relationship is perfect.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Everything's back on it fine, all cute, up for the
next fight over the next cold stew.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, they mellowed out. They figured it out in time,
They definitely figured it out.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
But yeah, those it was a Valentine's Day story. The
end was a Valentine thing. And this is why we're
here on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
My only love. Yeah, we get Almonzo in a bath
in the window pane.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
That's all you need.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
You need needs anything else, and then if you're lucky,
a bullet popcorn and call it a day.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Maybe that's Lauren Almonso didn't have popcorn in bed. That's
the problem, Charles. We did and it improves a relationship.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
It was one of the nicer scenes we did together
in bed. Bed scenes were not. That's another story for
another day. We need to we need to race for
the exit.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Oh my god, you are so leaving us on a cliffhanger.
All right, that's cruel, but I guess it'll make people
come back next week. Well maybe maybe we'll talk about
Dean and Melissa's bedroom scenes.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't think, but.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Maybe at some point come on here about it? Yes, okay, everyone,
thank you for joining us today. I'll be serious now.
Thank you, and remember whatever you do, don't do to
ikea with your partners. Tell you nothing else. Happy Valentine's Day, everyone.
(43:53):
Please follow us on our socials, allows fifty podcast, our website,
Littlehasty podcast dot com, Like and subscribe, tell your friends,
and if you're not on Patreon, for gosh sakes, join us.
We have so much fun, don't we. We really do.
And we'll be back next week and have a great week. Everyone.
All right, Bob, let's get the wig, let's fly everything.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Bye. Everyone,
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