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Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well Well, well, hello, bonnet heads, and we're back. We
are in our post show. What is what would we
even call this?

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Hayes?

Speaker 5 (01:22):
It was a world Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:24):
My third cup of black coffee this morning, back in
Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
Chocolate protein with a stoop of espresso powder.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yes, yes, that sounds good, but a good post show, Hayes.
Hi everyone, it's me. It's Pamela Bob, host of this
podcast here and creator and star of Living on a Prairie.
I'll do the introductions even though they know who you
are by now.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
We we love to hear it again.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yes, and we do our wonderful prairie bitch here. She
is Allison Aringram and he's mine but also your hashtag
imaginary boyfriend. That's right, Dean Butler. Hi, guys, where everyone
is back in their in their homes. You guys are
in Los Angeles. I am back here in New York.

(02:14):
We just had our live podcast too. We're recording on
a Monday, so just two days ago, not even a
full two days and it's not even no, but uh,
how amazing was it? It was amazing?

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Yeah. Yes, I was just going to say, I think
there's something about being in New York. You know, there's
there's a mythology about New York for our entire country.
There's just a magic about it. And if you've had
anybody who's ever performed anywhere knows that that's sort of

(02:55):
like the mecca of all of that. And look, we're
doing a little tiny thing here, but to do it
there in this wonderful space, I mean, I would recommend
to anybody Green Room forty two is a fantastic place
to do an event like what we did. Just the
wonderful energy of people, the acceptance and excitement that we

(03:17):
got from people, the addition of Charles Bloom I know
we're going to talk about extensively. It was just really,
this was Pamela, this was your idea to come and
do this in New York. So excited, Yes, I bow
down bullets.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
All week, like, oh no, this was my idea. Oh no,
what if things don't go well, Oh god, this is
all going to be my fault.

Speaker 7 (03:42):
You are such you are such a trooper, Pamela, you
really are. I mean, you just step in all the way,
you know. Alse and I got ourselves there eating chocolate
on the route to you know, to New York. But
it was just it was a great way. I loved
being there. With both of you. It was really fun.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Well that's part of also. Sorry Elson, go on.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
It was amazing because you know, Dean had spent time
in New York one hundred years ago in Broadway.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
But you said at the time you were working.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Like like constantly, and we were like, have you been
to this?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
You've been to this?

Speaker 6 (04:17):
He's like, really have time, And so we go to
lunch and you know me, I'm like, oh good, we
have a lotch what the oysters?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
You got oysters?

Speaker 6 (04:26):
So I and I go, now, well, people shared Dean.
Was that literally your first oyster?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Did you actually?

Speaker 7 (04:33):
No, No, I've had oysters, oysters, stargo oysters. I've done
some of the exotic, the exotica what do we call
that kind of food. I mean it's sort of soft, gelatinous.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And right acchoired.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
But Washington West Coast you hadn't had the Washington West
Coast oysters.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Because you were saying, wait, is there a difference? Yes,
yes there is. And so we were all over town.
You know we did turn you.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Well, we were all over mid We were all over Midtown.
We wanted to know, but we want Yes, we did
scallion pancakes the first were together. Yes, that was good,
but we didn't get to do the Brooklyn Bridge and
Kats's Delhi and all the New Yorky stuff because you
guys arrived Monday night and we started working Monday night

(05:22):
on the show. I mean, we were together every single
day until through the event.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
With me.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Tell that story.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
Okay, go ahead, tell the story. Missed them, Okay.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
So our wonderful and brilliant social media directors Joey and
Christine came along with their parents. Their mother, Barbie came
and helped us so much. Their dad, Carl came. They
call him Paw. They call him Paw helped us, like,
we literally could not have done this without. You know,
this is a this is a dog and pony show.
We have one day we'll have a brilliantly large team

(06:05):
of people doing all this stuff for us. But it
was really a DIY, you know thing. And so on
Wednesday we were like, okay, this is social media Day.
We got to take lots of videos, we got to
do do the thing, and so we were all around.
We took all these videos, some which have not even
been posted yet. They're really fun. But we're in the
middle of Times Square and we're doing that funny little

(06:27):
dance video. And so we're dancing. We're dancing and there's
you know, the people in the costumes in the middle
of Times Square. So there's Mini Mouse and Mickey Mouse,
and you know, there's Spider Man. There are all these people.
We're in the middle of shooting this video, dancing, dancing,
and the Mini Mouse is walking by us, and then
we just see her stop, turn around, obviously recognize you guys,

(06:54):
like obviously recognized who you are in the costume, in
the full Mini Mouse costume, and just started waving in
costume while we were dancing. And you can see on
that video me pointing and going hi, because I I
guess it was the Minimus.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
And all these like nicky goofy almos people are like
walking by us in the shop, they're in the shot
they're walking through. It's the most bonkers video because it's
so clearly I mean, talk about authenticity.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
We just clearly randomly.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Chose as Poma, let's do it here. I just started
dancing and we can't hear the music, so were like whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
With the characters like crossing.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
It was so see, you know, what's one of the
cool things about that space? And I have not spent
a lot of time in Times Square. It just it
just didn't work out that way when I was there.
But sort of a fascinating phenomenon is you can be
in Times Square and do absolutely anything and other than

(08:02):
mini mouse, nobody cares.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
That's that is all of new or that is all
of it, because believe me, I've been there, done it
and no one cares. I mean, it's it's quote unquote normal.
It's just you know, it's a city full of eclectics
and artists and people doing stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
We were doing crazy stuff all over town.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
But there, Remember there were people walking by the well,
were walking by week weren't sure if she.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Was crying or laughing.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Oh she was trying, like.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Tense moments, and everyone's just like.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
That's the thing about me. You could be crying hysterically
walking down the street and no one, no one cares,
which is both hero and a con. I mean it
really is.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Anyway, You're free, You are absolutely free to be whatever
you are in what whatever state of being you are.
You can be that in that city. Yes, that that
is a pretty remarkable book thing that is that is
not the case in a lot of places.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
That that's my nerness, your you can have your moment
and where you are and everyone's like, okay, whatever, man.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, it's just another Tuesday, I know. But I will say,
we see you, but we're not going to bother you.
Like she's crying and we all cry.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
Yeah. Case in many cases they see you and they're
just taking a quick root around you, you know, like that.
No one wants to interfere. They don't want to just
they just keep everyone's living their life and it's just
they're doing what they need to do in that moment.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
But I will say part of what also, I mean, yes,
the show is I think incredibly successful, and we had
so much fun doing it, and we I think we
all had you know, the day before we sort of
had a little mini run through, and I think we
were done with the run through and we sort of
all looked at each other and when I think this
is going to be really good, like, oh, we got

(10:00):
something near. But the best part about the week was
being with you guys, just together, finally in the same
place and spending days and days and days together and
loving everything.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
It was fun. You know. I when I I agree
with you on the run through when it was finished,
I just have such you know, and everybody pretend like
we're just talking to ourselves here. I have such confidence
in the two of you that things are always going
to work. This is one way or another, whether it's

(10:30):
you know, whether it goes sideways, up down left, it
doesn't matter. It's going to work out in the in
the end, because we're all just going to hang with
each other. It's we just keep stepping forward. And I
think that that's really that's really the deal.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, I think we had the little musical rehearsal in
Charles Blooms Bryan Dog Giant.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Parker, beautiful dog Parker.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
It's a Golden Retriever. I'm like cross with what a
right now?

Speaker 6 (11:06):
He was like a Siberian tiger. Is this giant head
and his big boss. And then he's like and he thinks
he's a lap dog. He thinks he's a lap dog,
and all of us He's like, I love you, I
love you, I love you, can I his big the
biggest law I love you.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
It was like hysterical.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
But when we did that music run through and he's
he sang that song early day and then we sang,
oh boy, we we've opened Pandora's Box.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Baby. Oh oh, this is gonna be a whole other
thing now. Yikes.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yes, yeah, no, really good, really good. Uh, Pamela, I
think we should take us into the show so we
can talk about these things in greater detail. But uh,
justice to say, what a great week we had in
New York and now we have more.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
We have more to it, right, So before I announced,
you know, but I always announced before we start the show.
I'm just saying. The audience had questions in the live podcast.
We got like ninety index cards worth of questions, and
obviously I could not answer all of them during the
live broadcast, so I promised everyone we would answer them

(12:17):
here on the podcast. Now, this might have to be
a two parter episode because we have a lot of questions,
but I think that's okay. I think you guys want
to hear all of this stuff. So anyway, from ubn
go and Prairie partners and our patrons and visit se
me Valley dot com. This is yeah, one million downloads

(12:40):
The Little House on the Prairie fiftieth Anniversary Podcast. We're back, everybody,

(13:04):
all right, here we go. Questions audience questions that were
not answered during the live podcast Here we Go, Cora
wants to know if you could change one thing about
your character's arc throughout the series, what would it be.
Thank you, Cora.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Nice, nice question.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I know it's a good These are good questions.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
We're pondering.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Oh okay, well I'll.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Think yeah, wow, Coora, you've got them tongue tied.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Yeah, no, there's no there's no good I mean, really
great question, Kaura. I think that you know, I would
have liked to have seen I would have liked to
have seen the character be of at least in the beginning.
What's the beginning of the character was an object and
that's what you know, that's that's what that's what the
character was there to do. And I think there certainly

(13:58):
was there certainly was nuance. I wish there'd been I
wish there could have been some more gentleness, and I
mean there was a lot of there was sweetness. There
was definitely a lot of sweetness, but I wish there
could have been more of that that to see to
see relationship, to see more connection with the with the

(14:19):
totality of the of the community. But that's the you know,
but looks, that's the nature relationships get compartmentalized. People are
boxed with certain individuals with it, and it all is
woven together, you know. But I you know, it would
have been nice to it just would have been I
would have loved to have had more interactions with with

(14:40):
with different characters, because I think we had We had
a wonderful group of characters.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Right, because they kind of made it the new beginning
thing and have to go. And then you're also kind
of like the object. Well it's in the books. They
shows up, they get married, gonna have a stroke, and then.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
You're gonna It's like because me and Perceval kind of went.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Off the pages into the imaginary ether zone, like what
could happen next?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Twins Betty and Ginny what?

Speaker 6 (15:10):
I loved being mean and terrible and what is wrong
with this girl? So much that when I got nice
it was a little difficult to first because like, well
now what Now? It was cool the beginning because I
was like, only nice when Perceval was in the room
and stuff, And then we got.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
What what And that was kind of fun that the schizophrase.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
And then with Perceval, well it made sense because you know,
in the Twins, but then they I don't think they
were sure what to do with me.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Either, But now she's nice, Now what happens? And I
was like, now what happens? Okay, I got the babies.
We got that down.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
And there were episodes that I talked about towards the
end where it was kind of like when it was
a struggle like do I stay or not, because it
was like, well, now I'm just another great kick on
the prairie like all the other lovely ladies on the prairie,
and here's your coffee and.

Speaker 7 (15:55):
And I'm like, that is not wanted.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Did I think my lines were two more lamb stews
and do you want coffee? And i'ment, oh, this is
not her. This is so not her where she would
be at like there should be something else going on.
I know that I did have a fantasy, and Steve
and I talked about it. We all left said that
what if Nellie out had a relapse, something went wrong,
midlife crisis, There was a problem with the children and

(16:23):
it was too stressful, and she like gets wiggy and
becomes really angry and terrible again, and Doc Baker has
to come over and see is it a medical thing?
The Reverend Aldon has to step in Percival's that has
wits and she's just completely reverted and it's impossible and
is screening at everyone and like is she okay?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
And like that would have been great.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
And like so like there's all kinds of cookie things
we could have call you know, what if we came
back from the city is successful store and was in
New York? What if spinoffs weren't as much of a
thing in seventy eight seventy nine as they are now.
Everything's a spin off, everything's across her spin has one thing,
but a spin off to Perceval and Nelli, the Cohens
in New York running the Jewish store in his dad's neighborhood.

(17:08):
I mean, like, yeah, all kinds of cookies would But
in the nineteen seventies, early eighties, that shift was really
more in the late eighties, and by the nineties show
started having these Kooki crossovers and changes and spin offs,
and it just wasn't that that kind of show where
that kind of time. So it was like, yeah, but

(17:28):
absolutely I would have done things. You know, I would
have had a little twist maybe towards the end.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right, fascinating okay, oh oh okay, Hi Alison, did
Pamela fascinating? Well, it is. I mean I have thoughts.
I think the wreck. I think because they couldn't have
Nelly be bad again because she's a mom. Now she's right,
but she could have an awakening of how horrible and

(17:56):
she was raised by her mother, Like how horrible her mother?
Isn't a reckoning with her mom? That could have been yeah,
and now she's aware of like what the hell?

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, as the daughter goes, wait a minute,
my daughter is not horrible.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Wait, oh, you're not born that way. It's your mother
makes you like that.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Wait what my mother used to start going oh yes, well,
or even her saying something ridiculous to her daughter in
personal quick why did you just say that to her daughter? Well,
my mother always so correct, correct, correct, like like.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
The I mean, and this happens with the parenthood anyway
of being like wait a minute, like you have your
own children and then you're like, wait a minute, this
wasn't Yeah, So that could have been a fun discovery of.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
She breaks the cycle, breaks the cycle, Yes, of narciss behavior,
right right, exactly right.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
That would have been fun to see the breaking of
that cycle. Okay, next question, Hi, Alison, Dean and Pamela.
This is Andrew, who have been doing the BuzzFeed interviews
who I met after Yes, he's awesome. I've been doing
the BuzzFeed interviews with cast, which has been a dream
come true. Oh he's a bonnethead on the BuzzFeed team.

(19:08):
What is your favorite what is your favorite little house
question to get in an interview?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Did you enjoy playing Nelly and being so che Did
you enjoy all those terrible things you did?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Because yes, yes, yes I did, and remembering some of
the moments where I was particularly pleased, where I had I.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Found a particular expression or particular line reading, or a
particular moment where it was like digging in that knife
kind of thing, and I went, that was really good.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Ah, yes, that was quite satisfying. And and and yes
I did. I enjoyed it. And there were some scene,
certain lines moments I went.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Ah, that was good.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yes, it's good. And so I do like that.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Yeah, that's awesome. Dean, that's your favorite question.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
You know. I I have to say this may seem
like a total cop out to me, but I'm so
grateful that we get questions that people continue to connect
with this in a way that generates a question that
they want to know something about it, any aspect of it.
I just think it's great so that you know, it's

(20:20):
that involvement that is really is really the thing now
after all these years. It's the connectivity of the fact
that it continues to touch people, to inspire a question
that is an incredible gift.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah, I'd say I'm just happy to be part of
the conversation. I guess every time I'm somehow involved, I'm like, well,
what me?

Speaker 7 (20:43):
How?

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Why?

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Awesome?

Speaker 8 (20:47):
You're that lady?

Speaker 5 (20:58):
The amount of commons we get, I mean it's every week,
but I've started I've started screenshotting them and sending them
to Tana Allison enjoying Christine of the comments. Weekly, sometimes
multiple times a week on our post, someone inevitably will comment,
who's that way? I'm like, what more do I have

(21:21):
to know? I introduced myself every week?

Speaker 7 (21:25):
How many we introduce you? Right there? In the podcast
we talked about how we found why we called you,
and people still ask.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
So now I'm claiming it. We're claiming it, We're making
it a thing.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Who's that lady? And to be to be fair, you
got a lot of who's that lady? But you who's
that lady?

Speaker 5 (21:46):
And then when they is single, you love that.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Love that awesome.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
It wasn't who's that lady? Who's that lady? You were
getting common.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
We're sure.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah, yeah, you're a very attractive lady. So it's like
people are people notice?

Speaker 5 (22:17):
I don't notice? But thank you. That's very that's very kind.
I think that way.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Yeah, well, for all of us in the cast, I
think the big thing is people are asking us questions
fifty years later.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Totally, you're grateful, we are anybody.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Totally totally, totally okay, okay, this one's a who ready
they didn't sign it, don't know, but it says, can
you say hi? Can you say hi? To a table
of Farmington, Connecticut refugees?

Speaker 7 (22:43):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (22:44):
I know who that is? We had I've got a
lot of people to show had been to other events,
including the infamous Connecticut event that was insanely overcrowded and
off the charts going totally disorganized mess. And we had
people who were there and they were like, yeah, we went.
We still had a good time. It was but that's
that is that's probably get company. That's okay, got it

(23:06):
probably well, hi everybody, Yeah, I know who you are.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yet I think we should have T shirts for all
of us that said I survive the.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
Connecticut Connecticut off. That's a cool idea as well. I
think that you know, that comes up all the time.
I hear that constantly because I think we were, in
many ways far more uh sort of concerned about the

(23:35):
way that went because we were looking at the size
of the lines, the lack of food, the lack of.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Water, air conditioning.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Hey, well that was okay. So we were yes, I
mean all of that. But when you talk to people,
they still say what a good time they had.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Yes, we just knew that that was not a good time.
We were ever going to sanction again. Yeah, but but
but people did have a good time. So that was
that was That was a nice People come.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Up to me laughing and going, oh man, was it
what a train wreck? I had a blast? I got
to taught to you was lovely. I don't know how
you guys stayed there all day? How did you even survive?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Oh my god? That was great? Yeah, yeah, there is
all right.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Ready for the next question, Nelly, they're calling you by
character names.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Ready.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
This is from Jen She says thank you, Jen Nelly.
How did you mentally prepare to play such an iconic
villain at such a young age? And Almonzo, if you
could film one more episode today, what would it be about?
Good questions? Y'all think about it.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I I first, didn't prepare first.

Speaker 6 (24:47):
I mean, it's it's very organic, is very method. Again,
it was it was like, we all have things that
annoy us.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
We all have bad days.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Yeah, we all have people who are working our last nerve.
We've all been there, and.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I the only you know.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
People say, do you have a tea checkting? Oh no,
but I do do villain counseling. If someone comes to
me and says, I have to play an extremely objectionable character.
I have this audition and I don't even like this person.
I don't I got to do this. I'm like, gime
here and I can absolutely walk you through how to
because I know that thing.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well. The first thing I would do the script. Our script's
chess left off the page, so it's very easy to go, okay,
we're doing that. I get it.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
But I would go through it with different line readings,
different as they would say, intentions like should this be
forceful forceful at Laura, or should this be more throwaway?
Like everybody is that? Is it more that? Is it
more nini nini in your face? Or is it more
like eating a piece of cherry pie and going right?

Speaker 7 (25:52):
See?

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Is it which terrible attitude?

Speaker 7 (25:56):
What version of terrible? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeahs test was.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
I would sometimes read it out loud, go that's that's annoying.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh that was bad.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
And when I got to the version that was like
fingernails on a blackboard and made me want to punch
myself in the face, and went, yeah, someone and and
do that one the one where I got got if
somebody said that like that, that tone, that would drive
me crazy, I'm going to say like that. And then
the general thing was that said I.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Was a teenager. We all have anngst things.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
I was allowed to let it all out, so anything
that was bugging me, anything just life being thirteen, you know,
I could just go like people said, did you take
it home with her? I said no, it was an exorcism,
was all out, let it out there it goes, and
I would just spit it all out with like those
scenes where I'd be screaming and wrecking a room. Yeah,

(26:51):
because you could just let it all go and throw
those bags of flour or those dishes or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
It was flinging.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
And it's like a rage room, like a room, right,
maid to be of a rage room.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, I was in the rage room.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
I paid to be in the rage exactly this therapy,
so yeah, all that would come out, and so I
would enjoy it enormously. Like I said, the stuttering one
was a little hard, picking on the stutters.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like he was bad even for me. But then once
I did, I went, wow.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
This is really bad.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
This could be cool.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
It was revenge on every bully that had ever tormented
me because I would imitate them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it
had so many things going on, but yes, all of
those things factored into it, but generally the biggest one
was which version of this would irritate me the most,
that would send me screaming from the room if somebody's
talked like that, And I go that one.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
So smart though, for especially for a child, to know
what to do. I mean, you're just a great, a
great actor.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
My parents ran a theater yeah before they're married. I
mean it was a round actors. Yeah, people did all day.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Yeah, so nice. Okay, what about yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
Yes, I would love to have. I would have loved
to have done a story around the moment between a
moment between Eliza Jane Almonzo and their parents admitting the
moment about the blacking of the stove, the stove blacking

(28:25):
thing on the wall, and the moment where Eliza Jane
gets to say that she fixed it instead of letting
it be discovered by their mother that there's their parlor
at home as a boy was ruined. Now you'd have
to set all that up, you have to do a flashback,
you'd have to explain that. But I think it would

(28:45):
one I think it would be a wonderful thing to
see the kind of parents that Almonzo had.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
That made Why couldn't they have had a flashback?

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Rightild actors playing Lucy.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
And you sure and then and being able to have that.
I think Lucy and I had a really good report
just because we connected with each other so instantaneously. When
we met each other, casting is so real everything you
just I connected with her immediately. I would have loved

(29:17):
to have had that moment to be able to affirm
why I loved Eliza Jane, why al Manzoll loved Eliza
Jane so much and stood by her and supported her
and all that. So I think that would have been
a fun moment to do.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
God, that is a great answer, I mean, because it's
a great story, one of the best.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Stories in Farmer Boy.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
You just crack right up and you can see it,
and I can just put the flashback the pairs with
these fabulous children playing, all the little Wilder children and
the little girl baby Lucy Lee and baby Elma's.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh my, yeah, no, that would be killer.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
That would have been Why didn't they do that in
season nine? That would have been so good. I've been
freaking the I.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Would have been delighted to have a have that kind
of a moment rather than a Blanche moment anyway, but
that would have been fun.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, all right, next question, Oh, no one signed this,
But the question is actually it's more of a request
and then a question. Please compare a Little House on
the Prairie with the real housewives.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Well, interestingly, we're on the show Richards Girls, Kim Richards
and Kyle Richards. Kyle Richards was Alicia Edwards and Kim
Richards was a little older with the special footwear in
the foot and everything, So it gets really weird. Yes,
we had two people became house was very humble beginnings.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
That's right, Will, I don't watch the Real Housewives. I've
worked with the Real Housewives a little well, I think
you don't need to support that show after me.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
No, Obviously, our case people when they were having a giant, hysterical, screaming,
totally out of their heads match like they do on
the show, they would have gone to Ma Ingles and vented,
and she would have talked to them. They would have
brought in what what the Housewives needs? They need a
Reverend Alden, They need a Doc Baker or mister Olsen.

(31:17):
They need somebody to come in and be the voice.
They need Charles to come and bring them all together. Ma,
somebody to go now, girls and work it all out.
It's a room full of missus Olsens.

Speaker 10 (31:27):
And Nellie's right, Nancy, A lot of Nancy, a lot
of them, a lot of well, a lot of Yes,
that's the color that dominates the Real Housewives.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah, no question, somebody else.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
So funny.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
So, whereas uh Little House was was sort of aspirational lessons,
foundational lessons in how to live a good life, right,
Real Housewives.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Is a foundational is foundational dysfunction. It's like everybody is horrible,
and they're and there's and there's well, I don't know.
I haven't seen enough of it, but I've never watched
it where I didn't feel we were in a room
full of people who were really working their hardest to
be as miserable and judgmental and caddy as they possibly

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could be. That's the whole nature of what it is.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
The nature of reality television is the most negative emotions,
the most unpleasant moments of people's lives, slammed out for
everybody to see. And it's not healthy TV. All I
say is, did we learn nothing from the Dion Quintuplets.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Google Dion Quintuplets. Google an American family the lads? Yeah,
and ask yourself why are we still having reality TV?

Speaker 6 (32:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Okay, all right, next question? After knowing about this person
didn't sign it either, but they'll know who they are.
After knowing about Laura Ingles Wylder's real Laura Ingalls Wilder's
real life, is there an event you would recommend to
the new series to reflect on that the original Little
House in the Prairie did not?

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yes, in our show. I don't think we made Carrie frail.
We made Carrie maybe.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
A little like Ue, Yes, yes, but we.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Didn't make Carrie frayle the books, Carrie's a little frail.
She knows the prairie, they didn't have enough food, and
the winter, the terrible things happened, people got sick.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Carrie was a little sickly. Now, Carrie actually lived to
a reasonably.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Ripe old age and became a stepmother to children that
had fine life.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
But as a kid, she is a little sickly, little
always show.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
And in the books there's the whole thing in the
school where Carrie, the teacher is giving Carrie a hard
time for rocking her seat and it's just that it's uneven.
She got like the funky seat, and Laura's like, that's it,
and does the thing of rocking her chair like I will,
I will rock my chair then.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And you can expel me and I will cause a scene.
And the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
That was a great thing that should have been in
the show. That was a great moment.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
That was a wonderful moment in the musical. Yes, great musical.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, the brilliantly.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Rock but instead the musical number and it was brilliant.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
It was brilliant, but instead they did blanche everything. It
all comes back to.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
You know, here, here's what you know. I respond to
that and say, what that kind of texture that you're
talking about, Allison is really what ed Friendly wanted. That's
that's what That's where his intention was. Michael wanted. He

(34:50):
wanted the show to not be about He didn't want
audiences worried about the principal characters. He wanted everybody well fed.
He wanted everybody clean. He wanted everybody to be okay
to deal then from the clean palate with all of
the different crises that he would create. But he didn't

(35:11):
want audiences looking at the Angles children saying oh, why
aren't there clothes clean? Or I'm sorry, they're clothes. They
He just didn't want that. He wanted a clean, clear,
everything is okay moment. They didn't have much, but they
always had enough.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
So other people could be malnourished, other people could be
freezing to do, could be sickly, and the.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Engles doman help them.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
But the Angles aren't actually starving to death with Charlotte fever,
whereas Well made it through the long winner for God's sakes,
it's you know, right.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
So it's you know, it's yeah, boy, I wish we'd
done thinking about the episodes, you wish I wish we'd
done some version of the Long Winter. You know. We
we had, we had blizzards, we had, but it wasn't
this sustained, long, sustained event, which would have been perhaps
difficult to do, very hard. Could have done it, maybe
in a two hour format. But why that's.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Why after season one or two it was perpetual springtime
in Walnut Grove.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Because it's sick, it certainly is. It's sort easier to
control those circumstances. I think we should take a break
right here, right back, and.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Let's do it. We love answering your questions, and we'll
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Speaker 5 (37:16):
Hi guys, we're back. Okay, more questions. This person, who
also did not sign who they were, but I saw
a foot wrote I saw footage online from Charlotte Stewart
that she and Jim Morrison took a road trip in
nineteen seventy and were friends until he left LA. Was
she a rock and roll enthusiast? Who was she ever?
And they did more than just riding a car together?

(37:40):
And she talks about in her book.

Speaker 7 (37:42):
Why I can just see it too? Wow?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, yeah, Bob and I go to visit Charlotte up
in Napa.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
This is some years back. This is back when David
was a lie. We're up there for a thing and
we're hangers. Bob had not spent time with Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
She just made me better. And we're in her house and.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
He's offering her a couple from his bent, his rock
and roll band, and he said, Charlotte, do you like
rock and roll? And she looked at him like, oh
you poor child, laughed and said I am rock and roll.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Boom, It's true.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Been there a few minutes.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
He went into the bathroom and saw like the autograph
pictures from Joni Mitchell and half of.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
The Wonder and a good friends oh.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
And like back slowly out of the room and realized
that she was in fact friends with most of the
people whose concerts he didn't to and whose albums he had,
and that she knew them all personally. And we're like,
oh wait, and she's like, so the clothing story had
you know, we want to get into your pants, Liqui Butterfly. Yeah,
here's all the we want to get into your bonnets

(38:43):
your pants because they made pants and the Patrick Neil
Neil Young's patchwork jeans thy Charlotte.

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah, that's Charlotte. And Charlotte is rock and roll.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
I mean, you know, one of my favorite movies is
almost famous, and in some way, Charlotte Stewart is sort
of a version of Penny.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
Leg to Lee read whoo whoa her book? But yeah,
Jim Morrison kind of like showed up on her couch.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
She like she had roommates.

Speaker 6 (39:11):
She like, comes home, like, who's this guy's passed out
on the gu who's on the couch.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Not Jim Morrison. So they hit it off.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
He's like, hey, I kind of need to get out
of town for a while. This happened to him a
lot had issues. And they go for a ride. They go,
let's go to hers castle. There's a picture of them
having ice cream on the beach. It's like the cutest thing.
And she said, hey, but as she said, always friends
with Jim Morrison and then eventually went, okay, friends, we're
talking the late sixties, early seventies.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
You do understand what friends means.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
And I went, you made friends with benefits. She's like, honey,
it was the sixties. Everybody's with friends with benefits figuring out.
So yes, in today's where you would say she briefly
dated mister Mowison, But she said, and you know, when
all the gossip and rock and roll in store worries
and craziness and acting out was stripped away, he was.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Really a very sweet guy.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
He's really he had demons, interests, really a very nice
person under it.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
And I think this and I think this drive that
they won and was really right before he passed away,
like the last time she saw him.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
You like left town after that something. And she's just
like poor guy.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
And her big thing was he needed a friend, which
is also what she said about Picture French a lot
of her sorcerer.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
He needed a friend. And if we say Charlotte best
friend you could.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
Ever have, Charlotte would have been Charlotte would have been Charlotte.
I've always said about her that, even as in her
in her later years, as we've gotten to know her
and we've spent more time with her, Charlotte is one
of the most beautiful spirits that you can be around.

(40:51):
And then you see pictures of Charlotte when she was
in her twenties so on. Charlotte was so hot, knocking out,
so hot in this very sort of girl next door
kind of way. So hot, so hot.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, you love her.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
She's one of the best human beings ever. All right,
next questions. The first question, Okay, Kristen Barrusso wants to know,
are there any episodes you can't watch? For example, the
one with mas injury, Chicken Wire? We all know the
Chicken Wire episode. Are there any well, you have a
hard time with the stuttering episode for I do.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I watch it, but you know it's true.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
I love the music because the dream sequences and the
you know, hanging and I was like, what is happening?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
But yeah, the scene where them like who, I'll watch it,
but I'm like y.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
The Wins, it's weird. It's like, I know, nobody likes
watching the one with they blow up the setsity end.
You know that we had it honestly, and yet it's
so crazy. I always say, the only episode that makes
me cry is Jasper with the raccoon kills me.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
If we're doing I'm not watching animals, just animals. Don't
get me with the animals.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Dean Oh, heard, heard and understood, and let's move on. Okay,
next question, that's all you have to say. What is
your favorite Rose Wilder Lane story? For example, fascism, scams,
complicated mother dog relationship, did she commit elder abuse, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Rose Lady people are worried about her relationship with Laura
got older, but she built them a house. She built
them a house next door. They didn't like it and said, no,
we liked when we went back to the farmhouse and
she wanted to. She No, she did. I mean if
you read the book when were visits her or during
the Penn Pacific activity. No, she absolutely is trying to

(42:50):
do right by your parents the impression I got.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But she's a very strong, herded woman like Laura. I
think mom and daughter. Maybe do you mention too much? Alike?

Speaker 6 (43:01):
Very strong will She was a very unusual woman. If
you go to the bookstores in the beautiful little house
sites in Waldgrove and Missouri everywhere, you will see some
of Roses books and some of the titles are like, wait,
what they're not about little House in the Prairie.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
They're their own thing. Her travels in Europe.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
There is literally a book by Rose Wilder Lane called
Islam The Path to Freedom. She traveled in the Middle
East and she wrote this book. She has the whole
thing about traveling across what is it Albania in a
jeep with what there's Yes, she was an extraordinarily unusual woman,

(43:40):
a fascinating person, very brilliant, but not the girl next door,
just nun at all and like so and and it
kind of freaks people out because she's not that at
that little house prairie res and No, she ain't no
baby Rose.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
She's her own thing.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
You Know what I think is sort of interesting is
I don't know that Laura was this thing either, but
what I do think is together, what they crafted together
was this beautiful, aspirational story about a very what was

(44:16):
a very difficult life, and they turned it in They
turned what was a very difficult life into something timeless
and beautiful. And they they butted heads while they got there.
You know, anybody who's been to the Hoover Library and
gone through the letters that they wrote back and forth
to each other, they were they were they were doing

(44:40):
like texting in letters about specific scenes in books that
they were collaborating on together and really wrestling with what
these stories and what these moments were going to become.
Really an a not an easy collaboration, but an incredibly

(45:01):
effective class.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
That's the best description the Laura's between letters between Laura
and Rose, the Laura Rose letters, well she's pioneer girl
in the notes with reading books. It's like the craziest
text stream between mother and daughter. It's like talk about
real housewives.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
They get into it.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
Yeah, they do. They do. Okay, two very positive outcomes,
but not an easy ride.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Okay, Debbie from Freehold, New Jersey wants to know for
Allison and Dean, if you could have played another character
in the series, which one would it have been?

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Miss Beadle?

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Really, imber the only woman not to teach.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
Remember everyone, Missus Olsen taught a couple of classes.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
French teaching French. Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
I gave Missus Garvey talk for a long time and taught,
Ma taught, Laura taught, Mary taught.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
With the Missus Beale episode, one of my favorites.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Things somebody brought up at the show was great Missus
every old women taught except me. I am the only
female on that show who did not teach.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
They wouldn't let Nelly teach.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
And I thought that were tutored, though not the same
you tutor tutored.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I tutored.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
That was bad, I tutor.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
I never And I love what Miss Beadle did in
her character and all the things that she did in
that classroom the way Charlotte did it.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
And I thought, Okay, who the heck would I be?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
I mean, i'd be you know, obviously I could be
missus Olsen now, but I thought if it was somebody else,
oh my god, Miss Beadle.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
That was a great That was a great gig.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
I'd have been Miss Beetle.

Speaker 7 (46:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Wow, I was not expecting that answer at all. I
love it though. I love that deemed it in my sleep.
But yeah, no, I love it. I think it's great.

Speaker 7 (47:01):
I think, yeah, I think. I think so many of
our characters are sort of you know, they're sort of archetypal,
archetypal presences in the world. I think there are parts
of me where I could have been mister Edwards. There
are parts of me that sort of the big the
performer that works big, and he Victor worked very big.

(47:26):
I think I could have played in that space, you know,
put the look aside, just the the the energy. But
then I also think there's another part of me where
I think I could have been very effective as a
Reverend Alden and and and in a in a very

(47:47):
I wouldn't have wanted to kill as many people as
Doc Baker did. But but I think, but I could
have also been a Doc Baker.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
You could you could have. Yes, I agree with both
of Okay.

Speaker 7 (48:01):
Next you agree with all.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
I agree with all three Baker, Yeah, yeah, yeah, dot
the mister.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Edwards, I do after experiencing the hamming it up in
front of the cameras during our social video posting, I
was like, oh, this man, and I mean this is
a huge compliment. And I was like, oh, this guy
can do comedy, Like he really can do comedy. You
should be doing comedies because you're really good at it

(48:31):
and you have that thing like you get it. So
I one thousand percent endorse you as a mister Edwards.
Mister Edwards, two points.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
Okay, all right, all right, Well let's this person.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
This person also asked Charles a question Charles bloom Our
Lovely and Wonderful early about and I emailed Charles this
morning and he responded, so I'll read.

Speaker 7 (48:50):
His fantastic So this.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Person asked Charles do you ever get recognized by fans
of Little House? And Charles wrote back and said, good morning, Pamela.
He said, for no less than fifteen years after my
episode aired, I was approached on the street by Little
House fans. When I say approached, I mean for autographs, photos,
and a few people actually got out of their cars

(49:16):
to speak to me. This was the residual effect of
being on the show. Long after the residuals stopped in retrospect,
I can say these encounters were worth much more. Being
on Prairie was a privilege that has revealed itself more
and more over the passage of time. That is our
beloved Jane Charles Bloom my god, a star is born,

(49:42):
Star is born.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
But I mean we like, like, well, this will be fun.
We'd had him on the show and then.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
We said, okay, you may well do the live one
and he says yes, and then he goes, I shall
write a song for the occasion.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
We're like, wait, what what what?

Speaker 7 (49:53):
What?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
What?

Speaker 7 (49:54):
What?

Speaker 6 (49:55):
Okay, Okay, I'll write two songs for the occasion, and
he goes, he.

Speaker 7 (50:00):
Wrote one lyric and one song. I mean, it's just
you know, the Cole Porter night and day and night
and day, night and day. Oh my god, just so
much fun writing.

Speaker 6 (50:13):
A whole enormous parody of this suburld.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
But there was a lot of work and he had
over and then he wrote a musical.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
He wrote like.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
Charles is wonderful. And we we will if we have anything,
if we have anything to say about it, we will.
Fans of the Little House will see him again. I
just think it's too good to have.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Him, he kidnapped him and thrown him in the trunck
of the car.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Weg Yeah, such a lovely Oh my god, just fantastic.

Speaker 7 (50:48):
He was so great with us and so generous with
his talent and his time, and and just authentic, so
authentically who he is. It just was really fun.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
All right. Next question, this person wants to know didn't
sign their name. But this person wants to know for
Almonzo Dean Butler, why was Almonzo called Manly w Wan Because.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Manley, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
It was a it was a slip of the tongue,
you know, and but it was This goes back to
the Eliza Jane. This is meet my brother al Monzo
as opposed to al Manzo.

Speaker 5 (51:25):
You know, I Manny, that's a mystery.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
Manny. My friends called me Manny. I mean, there are
so many things that didn't that one little slip. It's
so surprising to me that that was missed in the
in the preparation of this, and we just never as actors,
we didn't question it because I mean Lucy and I
certainly didn't question. We were brand new to this. We

(51:51):
weren't going to question anything in the in the very
beginning of this or really throughout it, we just didn't question.
But that was one that was met and so, yes,
this is my brother should have been this is my brother,
al Manzo. Nice to meet you, Laura. My friends call
me Manny, pleasure to meet you. And she's looking at
him man manly perfect. That's that's what it should have been.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
No, yeah, we read the books who works were like moms.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
I think I put either's my ring tone or like
my answering machine, the that I used the audio for
that exact scene. Yes, of her just going nice to
meet you, manly, manly and pleasure to meet you. It's

(52:39):
so cringe. Okay, next question, Allison, could you speak about
your personal experience with Michael landon how he want, how
he worked individually with the child and adult actors, and
his influence on your development as an actor.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well, it was crazy because one of Michael's big things.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Was this is from William. I'm sorry William.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
That was William directly as you saw all the kid actors,
and when we talked about that, that when the big
emotional scenes where it's just you know, I love you
so much, and it was all about love with Nelly
because we didn't have as many of those. We didn't
use that technique because of the audition. I had done
my home speech and completely nailed it, and he had
been reduced to complete hysteria and I couldn't stop laughing.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
He was like, I want that.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
So there was this weird thing in Michael's big thing
that all the actors talked about was mister, if it
ain't broke, don't fix it. If it was good, the
way you knew you'd done it right is he said,
cut print, moving on, and.

Speaker 7 (53:34):
You got this, that was it.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
He goes, seeing you go if you didn't do it right, ago,
can we try to get you know, how about if
I'm not sure this is and you'd get some direction
and do it again. But usually what happens is you
did it and went, yep, that's it. Cut Brent next,
and they start moving the camera in the set and
you go, wait what oh and that man, that was perfect.
And so it was like fine. And there were times,

(53:57):
there were a couple of times, because this went on
for years, where I go, am I am I am
I doing this way? He's not really saying much, he's
laughing every time he sees me. He sees me he's
this good morning and starts laughing. And every time I
would do one of the more hilarious scenes or something,
he'd be cracking up behind the camera and he'd go
cut Brendany, You'd be like dying, and I go, okay.
But the day I had like the great awakening, it was.

(54:21):
It was during I think it was the sweet the
one the mud fight is in. Is that the mud
fight that's.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
Yes, back to school, Back to school, to school.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
And there was a whole thing and they're in the
restaurant and the whole thing and then he's like okay,
and then you come in and you're totally shocked, and
then you're totally spregnant. And he was telling everyone in
the room what their reaction was this thing. So yeah, yeah,
and you're like, what, what the heck? And then you're
and then you come in this way and then he
looked at me and started like he was cracking up,
and he.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Goes and you you know, you do that thing.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
You give him one of those that thing you do
and then he giggled some more, and then he walked
out of the room and said he got behind the
camera and disaction I went that thing you do wonder,
Oh you want that's scary.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
That's that's scary stuff though, because I think you're so see.
I think, Allison, you're so fortunate because you knew what
that thing. But I did know what it was.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Insert coin and slot. But it was like, oh you
betnvested do bare bens.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
What did you say?

Speaker 7 (55:21):
What?

Speaker 6 (55:22):
And I went, oh, oh, and I knew which thing
to doing men and I was like, okay, it's that
bit that take. But then I went, has that been
That's what we've been doing? All I know?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
And told me is that what we've.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Been doing all this time is that I had certain
things that you just knew that I would do. I
would at the very bare minimum do this and sometimes
maybe this or this, and you wanted that that thing,
the thing.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I was doing was the thing you wanted.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
So you were just kind of letting me run a
mock and going yep and if I and Claxton even
said once to me with verier line, he said, I know,
I know you hear me talking to people and.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Telling him to change things, and you.

Speaker 6 (56:01):
Hear me tell Catherine, for instance, to rein it in
because she weren't very big. He says, that's not a
thing with you. It's just not that's not a thing
you're doing that you're gonna do. He said, look, if
you ever actually do too much or go over the top,
I'll tell you just do whatever the heck you want
and I'll let you know.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I'm not so Claxton. And I went, oh, And that
was what happened.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
It was run amok, and we'll let you know if
you've run too far amok.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
And I was like, okay.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
And then but when he said you know that thing
you do and I went, so, I've just been I've
been doing the thing you wanted the whole time. He
just has like, yeah, that one, and I went oh,
and I cannot tell you it really was. It was
like I went, oh, my wad. And after that moment,
I went, well, why why didn't you say so?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Oh, I've been doing it whole time?

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Good heavens.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
I think this is the thing. And I know, Pamla,
do you understand this. I think our audience should understand
that so much of the work that gets done in television,
directors are not generally talking a lot to actors. You
get a little as as else is alluding to, you
get a little nudge here and there, but you know

(57:17):
most of the work is done. When they say you're hired,
that is basically that's what they're looking for. That when
they see that in the room, they want that. And
then if you're moving on the spectrum of the emotional
life that a human being has and you go a

(57:38):
step too far in any direction, maybe you're gonna get
sort of carefully moved back into a safer space. But
there's not a lot of no one has time. It's
just you've got to move. The director is really focused
on the camera and keeping the continuity of the thing
moving forward, and actors are expected to bring it.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Yeah, you get like tweaks, like okay, someone says something,
you react to it and like you're mad or you're
sad or this, and they'll go, okay, okay, I think
you're surprised by this.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I think you.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Didn't expectors, Oh, I didn't see this coming. You you
didn't see it coming. So add in that like you're
and that's.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
All you need, all you need.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
And it's little like that when you work with a
very good director and intimate you know for a long
amount of time. Right, So you guys, have you you
have a common language, right, So, which is the beauty
of working with someone that they know every single move
you make. They know you as an actor as well

(58:38):
as you know yourself as an actor. And that's an
amazing relationship to have with your director. So that he
could say to you, you know, do that thing, and
you know what he's talking about.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
I knew what he meant.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
It was so crazy.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
It was like, well and then a French talking machine
did did egg me on? When I'm on the talking
machine and I conceive of the idea that.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
I shall record Laura in school and her life, and
it was more.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
And I remember he was like, think of your werewolf
comic books, because I've been reading these macabre and deadly
comic books about wear wolves and things, and every people's
been teasing me about it. You and your weird horror comics.
And he was like, yes, yes, and were wolves and
horror comics. It was like it was like Peter Pan
when they're trying to fly candy, No more more Christmas.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yes, that's it.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
Fly.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
It was like that, like think happy thoughts. Yeah, and
he got it.

Speaker 6 (59:29):
He knew he likes He said, yes, Maury, but it's this,
but it's that because it was silent, it was just
me doing this. So he egged me on in such
a way that that demonic grin came up and he
was like, yes, like that, but it's tweaks. It's little tweaks.
It's like, we know, you know, you read the script.
You're doing that, and you already and you know who
you are, so it's a little bit like, oh, no,

(59:53):
take it down, you're not that mad yet, Oh okay,
or you're more shocked. Oh really, just that much. And
I half the time I wasn't even getting those, which
is freaking me out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I know, we just do.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
You read the scripts very well, and you you did
a lot of homework coming in the door as you're
talking about playing, sitting at home with the script, running intension,
just trying different things, and that's that's the work. And
you as the yes you and you as the villain
as the antagonist, had wonderful opportunities of how to twist

(01:00:32):
the knife, and I think you did really great twisting
the knife in all kinds of really fun ways.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Well, country girls don't even know what a blackboard is.
Country girls don't even know what a blackbird is. Country
girls don't even know what a blackboard is. Didn't Oh yeah,
thank you?

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Okay, right, yeah, next question, Nellie Nelly. Did you ever
add lib any of your favorite lines or reactions?

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
Oh, I mean there's a few. Yeah lines, not so much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Not so much.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
We did occasionally strange it maybe a word here and there,
thing I said Jonathan Gilbert, king of the ad lib
got away with it, Jonathan Gilbert, which just pull stuff
out of thin air, and I'd be like, I'm sorry,
what and they'd go cut.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Print and poor Mary or or yeah or you know
Arlotte Charlotte.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
Yes, ladies would be going wait, wait, wait, stop because
that script and then Michael go, I kind of like it.
So yeah, Jonathan didn't really add that much, but some
of the reactions.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yes, there were some little.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Tiny things, little moments where I went, what if and
I do it? And usually the response was I yet
do that. The wedding, the wedding personal, and I get
married and Perceval goes to the honeymoon.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Best reaction ever, thank.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
You, and I suddenly do a shock, look like, oh wait,
this is like we're going to the honeymoon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Wait he's bragging about that? Are we discussing this in public?
And we're going to excuse me, and the moment of oh, no,
what have I gotten myself into? Right, there's the honeymoon.

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
I didn't go through with it with the big form,
you know, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go We're really
gonna go through with this. And he's telling everyone what
and then we ride off and it's like an easter egg.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It's just this moment.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
And I starved for years. I don't think anybody even
noticed it, but in the last few.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Years people, oh it's brilliant, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
Comments and people emailing me, writing me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Going whoa what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:02:32):
Question speed speed round.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Questions, Okay, when the show ended, how did you feel?

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
Weird?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Weird because I'd already left.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
I mean that I'm still talking to people seven years
and then I went back and did gloss, So as
far as I knew, I went, hey, this is gun smoke.
Maybe it's gonna go on forever. I don't know what
these people are doing, and it's going to go go.
I left because I was afraid it was gonna go
on forever, an hour and ever, and so I'm like, okay,
and it's like, whoa really? Really?

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
Whoa?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And they're ending it like that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Oh, and then I watched I like the blowing up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I actually kind of giggled, I would.

Speaker 7 (01:03:13):
Well, of course you liked the blowing up. Of course
you did. Interestingly enough, I think it might have gone
on longer if you had stayed. I think because the
dynamic that you brought was so important to the to
the overall vibe of the thing. So I think that

(01:03:37):
that's that's very possible. Not to put that on you
that you thought that's but I think there's something to that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, I thought about that. Guys, Yes, I think who
knows what the heck would happened.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
It would have been a whole what if Melissa's Anderson
had stayed?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
What if? Who knows?

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
I think Melissa, really Melissa to Anderson, really felt like
she had done everything she was going to be able
to through everything, and I think she I think she
made the decision. I think you had. You know, you
always had a lot more. The potential for range was
was really there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
I mean, they had done every terrible thing in the
world too, a what was left? What was left?

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
I guess I'm sure there could have been many more things.

Speaker 12 (01:04:19):
But anyway, you made the decision that you made. I was,
you know, I think I think we were all those
of us who were there at the end, you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:31):
Know what, I think. I think everyone felt like the
show had done everything in its form that it had
evolved to, It had done what it was going to
be able to do, and it was it was time
for it to end. And I think it was ending.

(01:04:52):
It was really the ending was happening throughout season nine.
It hadn't been buttoned yet, and I think at the
end by the end of season nine and they're thinking
about what are we going to do to drive this
into a season ten? We just we just didn't get there, right.
I think they've made a decision, NBC made a decision,
and no, we're going to move on from this. And

(01:05:14):
could we have gone another year? For sure? Absolutely? Adding
the adding the Mister Montague character added a vibe that
the show had never had before, which was really cool.
But I mean, but the show was so expanding beyond
what it's what its foundation had been, that it wasn't

(01:05:34):
really it was ceasing to be what it was designed
to be.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
Yeah, And I also left because it was my own,
my own life. I had literally been on the show
for one third of my lifetime, more than one third
of my lifetime, and I was like, whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
So it's like it was time to just do something anything,
you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:57):
Yeah, I'm just I think we are all, all those
of us who are there, are grateful for the overall
impression that the show had on people that keeps them
coming back to it, continue believing in it, continue learning
from it, or gaining just sort of moments of peace
and solace from it that is always there. And so

(01:06:20):
it's this perfect little it's this perfect little bundle of
storytelling that people can go back to again and again
and again. It was sad at the time, so grateful
that now looking back now forty years later, so glad
that I had the chance to be a part of that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Okay, another question, why was Royal wildber On twice with
two different families? Ah, that's well, it's just an age
old continuity issue we've always had on the story, right,
like they just think about it. Didn't think anyone cared.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
From the books or the Wilder history because you never
neither family is real.

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Neither neither I mean neither neither came well, neither neither
story was generated from something from the books. They were holy.
The characters existed, but they were not. They were those
none of the one of those stories was part of
the canon of the books.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Children roy Did Royal have boys? Did Royle have a daughter?

Speaker 7 (01:07:24):
You know nothing about that? We know nothing about that,
at least I now there are the the lor Inglis Wilder,
Deep Officionados. They know all of that, but I don't.
Laura didn't write about that. Is true. They know it
because they know it, but Laura didn't write about that.
So the first the first Royal was an actor named

(01:07:45):
Woody E and wood he came in and that was
a drop off the kids because that's where the story
was the two children. And the second time Royal Nicholas Pryor,
a wonderful, wonderful actor who came in to die and

(01:08:07):
brought Jenny. Brought Jenny Shannon Doherty with him to kick
off season nine.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
But it is so interesting that they didn't think the
audience would remember or care. It's so wild.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
Do you know that Royal Wilder? Royal GOULDT. Wilder was
evangelous evangelist and missionary who spent many years in India.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Whoa, WHOA.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
I did not know that educated at too low Burke
towns blah, but yes she was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
It was a big deal apparently. And did he have kids?
I don't, it doesn't, I don't. It's not clear.

Speaker 7 (01:08:42):
So yeah, And the most of the book readers saw
of Royal Wilder was in the Long Winter where he
and al Manzo are sharing the store space together, hiding
the wheat in the wall. That was azo seed wheat.
They had pancakes every day. They were never going to starve, right,

(01:09:04):
But that's Royal was the shopkeeper, al Manzo was the farmer.
That's what we knew about. That's really from the book standpoint.
That's what we knew about those two.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
About those two, apparently that's all true.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
That whole thing with the wheat and the stuff in
the town, that's pretty much.

Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
That's certainly where she wrote it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
I mean a daughter, a daughter, Angeline Bernice. While their
Bernice was born to Royal and Lecta on September fourth,
eighteen ninety four, another daughter was still born, and then
a third daughter, Susan.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Oh, she only lived for five months. So it looks
like he had a daughter, a daughter.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
Okay, boy, and such a common thing in that time,
and we talked about, you know, the children that died.
I mean that was so common, and that's why people
had children. I mean had lots of children because people
children didn't survive.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
Living five was a big accomplishment average life expectancy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
It's not because everybody died that young. It's because so
few people made it past five that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:05):
It's it's horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
But he had a surviving door.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
He had three your kids, all daughters, and one survived,
so had he had a daughter, so that Jenny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
The Jenny story.

Speaker 7 (01:10:15):
Sure, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
This same person also wants to know would Dean or
Elson ever do theater in New York again?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Elia?

Speaker 7 (01:10:25):
Oh, of course, of course, of course, absolutely have that opportunity.
But you know, I'm also realistic enough to know, and Pamela,
I know you can. You know you can get No
one comes chasing after you when you step away. You
have to be actively in this, pushing for it all

(01:10:47):
the time. Yes, there are those actors. You know, Daniel
day Lewis could go off and make shoes somewhere. Someone's
going to come to him and say would you consider
and then he decides.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Well, he always says, this is my last movie.

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
Always it's a very rare actors who can literally who
can literally step away and be and be dragged back again,
you know, or give the impression that they're being dragged
back again because the part was too good to say
no to. Most actors have to stay and fight for
it every minute, and if you're not prepared to do that,

(01:11:27):
it goes away.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I've done a regional I've done theater in l A.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
I've done theater in Connecticut, I have done theater in
North Carolina. I've done theater over the recent years. It's
a thing I do. I pop up once a year.
You half in a play. I just think, so.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
Yeah, I go to North Carolina do a p I
would do it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
I would do it. North Carolina is awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
List agents and casting directors, they're up for it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Morgan, Yeah, get to our friend. He has the theater there.

Speaker 7 (01:11:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Yeah, so someone said we have a new thing and
blah blah blah, sure.

Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
You sure, sure, Well, Oh it's an incredible place to be.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
I mean, people would love to see you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
I do a comedy show there every year, Concord, Yes, right, yes,
and I will be there at the cutting room all
this day and right before that, I will be in
the Rukshi founder.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Thank you well, that was an organic shameless plug. I
love it. Okay, we have two quikies. Quikies ready, Hidin,
We're this is hilarious. Hidin. Were you visiting the White
Mountains in New Hampshire in the early eighties. My family
thought it was you or a great lookalike. It was

(01:12:38):
in a KFC. I think Kathy Reagan. Kathy, she's been
waiting forty years to ask this in the White Mountains
of New Hampshire. I've been to the White Mountains.

Speaker 7 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I certainly have been in a KFC. I don't
think I've ever been to the White Mountains.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
Sorry, why.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Biscuit a bucket away?

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
And Kathy? Thank you? And okay, the last one, Pamela,
can you shout me out? Misty? What's up? Misty? How's
it going? Okay, listen, guys, we only got halfway through,

(01:13:31):
which means we will have a part two of your
questions next time. But I think we need to wrap
it up for this time. But you know, we'll get
through them. They're great questions, so I hope are entertained
by I know I am hearing the answer. Yes, is
that it?

Speaker 6 (01:13:47):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
I think we'll come back for a part too with
the finish of the questions, and then we'll get back
to recapping like we do. But this has been so
much fun. Listen, the fans, the people, the patrens, the
people who live stream, the people who came in person.
We appreciate you so much. You rocked and everyone was
so kind and lovely and supportive. What else can we

(01:14:11):
say about them?

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
It was great. We just and we cannot thank that
our patrons enough. Our patrons are the foundation, yes, of
this podcast. They really really truly are, and that's as
that's not surprising, but you all do that and you
make it possible for us to do this.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
And we're going to have some more perks on Patreon.
I mean, we'd have our videos every week that release
on Patreon, So if you're not on Patreon, you're missing
a lot more conversation and behind the scenes action. But
we're also going to have some more stuff coming up,
probably possibly from the live event that we just yes
that you have people to partaken, but yeah, if you're

(01:14:56):
not on Patreon, come on because and the more that join,
the more we're going to be able to do on
the podcast and beyond, like, you know, do more live podcasts,
which I think we all really want to do. So
it's gonna happen.

Speaker 7 (01:15:11):
Do We are definitely going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
We're doing it, and people are responding like, come to Florida,
come to Minnesota, come to Toronto, come to so we're
in demand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
And your name is now Pamela. Who's that, lady, Bob.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
I'm claiming it. I am claiming it. It's in the
issue video that they made. Who's that lady Pamela? All right, everybody,
thank you for being here. Catch us on our socials
Little House fifty podcast, Little House fifty podcast dot com.
We have we're gonna be posting a lot about the

(01:15:46):
live event and behind the scenes photos and little clips
and little pictures and videos. So check us out and
we'll be back. Gust. I'm happy Thanksgiving everyone, although I
think this might drive Thanksgiving. Thanks answer. It's that time, everybody,
Bob gets awake. Let's fly with questions, questions.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
Don't ask some questions that lady

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