April 27, 2023 • 6 mins
The Oakland A's moving to Las Vegas is expected to be a big plus for the local construction industry.The 32-thousand seat stadium with a retractable roof will be built on 49 aces of land across the I-15 from T-Mobile Arena. Construction is expected to take about three years and be finished in time to open the ballpark for the 2027 MLB season. But some locals aren't keen to some aspects of the plan. Tony, Ice and MoJoe discuss in this episode.
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(00:00):
Let's dive more into that a storybecause they off the cuff. The idea
of them moving here and US taxpayersmaybe having to fit some of the bill
in this stadium. Good idea,bad idea. Those are two separate things
to me. The idea of themmoving here. Love it, Yeah,
absolutely love it. It's about timean MLB town, an MLB team in
this town. It sounds great forus to have to pay a lot to
(00:22):
have it come, or to paysomething out of local people's taxes to see
that happen here. Obviously, that'sa sour taste in everybody's mouth, so
we'll see how that all develops.They're asking for assistance in the move the
Raiders tax is from visitors, right, the raiders. The Raiders are getting
(00:43):
partially paid for. Allegian stadium gotpartially paid for by a tax on people
coming to Las Vegas, not residentsof Las Vegas. I don't know what
they'll do for the a's but they'llcome up with some plan that's appealing.
I think, Okay, well that'sinterest. Yeah I didn't. I guess
I didn't realize. I wasn't herean Allegian stadium got built. But I
like the idea of tourists paying forit. Yea, I feel I love
(01:06):
that we're becoming a sports sure townnow, for sure, I get and
I talked about this on the airtoo. I'm ninety three one the Mountain
because I'm curious to see what localsthink about this too. So if you're
listening, tap the little microphone letus know what you think. I think
if I were coming from Oakland,like we're getting their team, you know
what I'm saying. So that thatkind of puts me off a little bit.
But at the same time, itis bringing. It could bring more
(01:30):
jobs, it could bring more money, It could bring more attention to this
city. Is that a good thing? Maybe? Jobs and attention, Sure,
that's a great thing. But atwhat cost is kind of the question.
Yeah, so I'm indifferent. Idon't think we have the full answer
for the cost. Obviously, whenthat story went out that the A's were
looking for help, that's common now. Teams are looking for help from the
city if they can get it,and some cities are ready to give that
(01:53):
up and some are not. Sometaxpayers welcome an additional tax to keep their
favorite team in town. So thatgoes on in lots of towns that the
A's are requesting. It makes sense. Whether they get that and where that
money comes from or not will We'llhave to see it. But initially the
way that story rolled out felt likea negative, like, oh, we're
asking for taxpayer dollars from the citizensof Las Vegas. I don't think that's
(02:15):
how that will actually fully shake outto get them their funding is this is
a weird thing to me. Theyare going to have to temporarily reside in
the Las Vegas Ballpark for a coupleof years if things move forward. For
that, they said twenty twenty fiveand twenty twenty six seasons that's when they're
expected to play in Las Vegas ifeverything continues to move forward while their new
(02:35):
stadium gets built. And they saidbecause of that and having to share like
one hundred and fifty games between theAviators and the Athletics, that they're going
to need a lot of renovations forLas Vegas Ballpark, which I don't feel
as an out of date ballpark.There might be some what are you laughing
at, No, I'm smiling.I'm listening as to how many people that's
stadium holds. You're way more intobaseball than it's not near as big,
(02:59):
but the average attendance for an OaklandAid's game is in that part of the
pun ballpark, so I don't.Yeah, but like on a good game
when they're playing a good team orwhatever, they close to that. But
that's reasonable. So they're saying they'regonna need some renovations, including turf,
which is gonna, you know,be expensive. And they said that the
building of the stadium is gonna bringfive thousand jobs to the city. So
(03:21):
there is some economic good news tocome with that. But who's gonna pay
for it all? Just like theA's are saying, Hey, maybe there's
some public assistance available for us,let's explore that. The people who own
Las Vegas Ballpark are like, ifthe A's want to play here, they're
gonna have to pay for some upgrades. Absolutely, get your upgrades now,
while a major League team is comingover to help fund that. If I
(03:42):
guess you gotta pay right. Ifyou guys want to play here, cool,
we'd love to have you. Theseare the things we're gonna need as
a part of that deal. Makessense, it doesn't part of the deal.
And you probably know more about thisthan I do. Um, isn't
part of the deal with Red RockResorts and the ballpark they're gonna have a
piece of the pie when it comesto the new stadium too. Isn't that
a whole part of the equation whythey're allowing a shared venue for a period
of time. Yeah, some ofthat land that they bought, or maybe
(04:04):
all of it, is owned bythe people who own Station Casinos, right,
And so I'm not sure, andI guess there's a part of that,
and I don't know a ton aboutit, But there's a part of
the land that the A's haven't boughtyet but that they're probably going to buy.
And then there's more land around thatthat Station Casinos still will retain ownership
of. And so you've got tothink Station Casinos is going to make,
(04:28):
you know, a bunch of moneyoff of building things around the stadium on
land that they are going to retain. And what I love all of this
again, I don't love. It'stempered by the fact that somebody's going to
try to tax me. I hopethey don't not either. Right, Well,
we'll see. I mean, wecan set out of collection on three
months. No one not gonna dothat um trying to get me out there
(04:49):
and go busk or something. Man, what are you trying to look?
We'll get some dollars trying to helpthe cause. Do you want the a's
here or not? Ice? Okay, but this is going to be a
thirty too when it's all said anddone. If it all moves forward,
a thirty two thousand seat stadium witha retract and forty over the forty nine
acres and a pedestrian bridge across thefifteen that goes from T Mobile Arena to
(05:13):
this new stadium. That's cool.Man. What I haven't heard about is
any extra parking over there. SoI imagine people are going to be expected
to park on the strip and hoofit over, just like they do for
the stadium. From that, we'reworking out the parking with the Allegian Stadium
thing. There was a lot ofpeople who were upset that there wasn't enough
parking built. We figured it out, didn't we. Yeah, But but
most of the events at Allegian Stadiumare outside of our hot window. But
(05:34):
the baseball season is right in theheat of summer, so that presents some
challenges when it comes to walking onehundred and fifteen degree heat. Good point.
I got nothing else. I walkedto the Garth Brooks show at Allegian
Stadium that was hot and twelve degreeheat, and so did I and I
still enjoyed the show, you knowwhat I mean? That's sure, and
you know it was part of livingin Las Vegas. I felt and maybe
(05:55):
you've had the same experience that particularshow going there was hot. You get
there, you go inside, hitwith the AC coming out. I feel
like you're still defrosting from the AC. So it didn't feel as hot going
back to the car. And it'snot as long a walk as it sounds
like. I'm gonna I'm gonna parkat Mandalay and I'm gonna walk over on
the It's really not as long awalk as it sounds like. Right by
(06:17):
now, everybody who's listening to thispodcast has probably done the walk and they're
like, yeah, it's fine.And look, if we're really taxing the
tourists when it's all said and done, which was probably what we should do
for the a's if they're going tobenefit from all those pedestrians filing back into
the casinos, why wouldn't we passthat tax on? It makes sense they're
clearly going to pay it lets.Public assistance doesn't necessarily mean the public of
(06:41):
Clark County, the public of LasVegas. It could mean all the public
people, everybody in the public whopays tax in this town, and there's
a lot of it's obviously mostly touriststo do that, so
Let's dive more into that a storybecause they off the cuff. The idea
of them moving here and US taxpayersmaybe having to fit some of the bill
in this stadium. Good idea,bad idea. Those are two separate things
to me. The idea of themmoving here. Love it, Yeah,
absolutely love it. It's about timean MLB town, an MLB team in
this town. It sounds great forus to have to pay a lot to
(00:22):
have it come, or to paysomething out of local people's taxes to see
that happen here. Obviously, that'sa sour taste in everybody's mouth, so
we'll see how that all develops.They're asking for assistance in the move the
Raiders tax is from visitors, right, the raiders. The Raiders are getting
(00:43):
partially paid for. Allegian stadium gotpartially paid for by a tax on people
coming to Las Vegas, not residentsof Las Vegas. I don't know what
they'll do for the a's but they'llcome up with some plan that's appealing.
I think, Okay, well that'sinterest. Yeah I didn't. I guess
I didn't realize. I wasn't herean Allegian stadium got built. But I
like the idea of tourists paying forit. Yea, I feel I love
(01:06):
that we're becoming a sports sure townnow, for sure, I get and
I talked about this on the airtoo. I'm ninety three one the Mountain
because I'm curious to see what localsthink about this too. So if you're
listening, tap the little microphone letus know what you think. I think
if I were coming from Oakland,like we're getting their team, you know
what I'm saying. So that thatkind of puts me off a little bit.
But at the same time, itis bringing. It could bring more
(01:30):
jobs, it could bring more money, It could bring more attention to this
city. Is that a good thing? Maybe? Jobs and attention, Sure,
that's a great thing. But atwhat cost is kind of the question.
Yeah, so I'm indifferent. Idon't think we have the full answer
for the cost. Obviously, whenthat story went out that the A's were
looking for help, that's common now. Teams are looking for help from the
city if they can get it,and some cities are ready to give that
(01:53):
up and some are not. Sometaxpayers welcome an additional tax to keep their
favorite team in town. So thatgoes on in lots of towns that the
A's are requesting. It makes sense. Whether they get that and where that
money comes from or not will We'llhave to see it. But initially the
way that story rolled out felt likea negative, like, oh, we're
asking for taxpayer dollars from the citizensof Las Vegas. I don't think that's
(02:15):
how that will actually fully shake outto get them their funding is this is
a weird thing to me. Theyare going to have to temporarily reside in
the Las Vegas Ballpark for a coupleof years if things move forward. For
that, they said twenty twenty fiveand twenty twenty six seasons that's when they're
expected to play in Las Vegas ifeverything continues to move forward while their new
(02:35):
stadium gets built. And they saidbecause of that and having to share like
one hundred and fifty games between theAviators and the Athletics, that they're going
to need a lot of renovations forLas Vegas Ballpark, which I don't feel
as an out of date ballpark.There might be some what are you laughing
at, No, I'm smiling.I'm listening as to how many people that's
stadium holds. You're way more intobaseball than it's not near as big,
(02:59):
but the average attendance for an OaklandAid's game is in that part of the
pun ballpark, so I don't.Yeah, but like on a good game
when they're playing a good team orwhatever, they close to that. But
that's reasonable. So they're saying they'regonna need some renovations, including turf,
which is gonna, you know,be expensive. And they said that the
building of the stadium is gonna bringfive thousand jobs to the city. So
(03:21):
there is some economic good news tocome with that. But who's gonna pay
for it all? Just like theA's are saying, Hey, maybe there's
some public assistance available for us,let's explore that. The people who own
Las Vegas Ballpark are like, ifthe A's want to play here, they're
gonna have to pay for some upgrades. Absolutely, get your upgrades now,
while a major League team is comingover to help fund that. If I
(03:42):
guess you gotta pay right. Ifyou guys want to play here, cool,
we'd love to have you. Theseare the things we're gonna need as
a part of that deal. Makessense, it doesn't part of the deal.
And you probably know more about thisthan I do. Um, isn't
part of the deal with Red RockResorts and the ballpark they're gonna have a
piece of the pie when it comesto the new stadium too. Isn't that
a whole part of the equation whythey're allowing a shared venue for a period
of time. Yeah, some ofthat land that they bought, or maybe
(04:04):
all of it, is owned bythe people who own Station Casinos, right,
And so I'm not sure, andI guess there's a part of that,
and I don't know a ton aboutit, But there's a part of
the land that the A's haven't boughtyet but that they're probably going to buy.
And then there's more land around thatthat Station Casinos still will retain ownership
of. And so you've got tothink Station Casinos is going to make,
(04:28):
you know, a bunch of moneyoff of building things around the stadium on
land that they are going to retain. And what I love all of this
again, I don't love. It'stempered by the fact that somebody's going to
try to tax me. I hopethey don't not either. Right, Well,
we'll see. I mean, wecan set out of collection on three
months. No one not gonna dothat um trying to get me out there
(04:49):
and go busk or something. Man, what are you trying to look?
We'll get some dollars trying to helpthe cause. Do you want the a's
here or not? Ice? Okay, but this is going to be a
thirty too when it's all said anddone. If it all moves forward,
a thirty two thousand seat stadium witha retract and forty over the forty nine
acres and a pedestrian bridge across thefifteen that goes from T Mobile Arena to
(05:13):
this new stadium. That's cool.Man. What I haven't heard about is
any extra parking over there. SoI imagine people are going to be expected
to park on the strip and hoofit over, just like they do for
the stadium. From that, we'reworking out the parking with the Allegian Stadium
thing. There was a lot ofpeople who were upset that there wasn't enough
parking built. We figured it out, didn't we. Yeah, But but
most of the events at Allegian Stadiumare outside of our hot window. But
(05:34):
the baseball season is right in theheat of summer, so that presents some
challenges when it comes to walking onehundred and fifteen degree heat. Good point.
I got nothing else. I walkedto the Garth Brooks show at Allegian
Stadium that was hot and twelve degreeheat, and so did I and I
still enjoyed the show, you knowwhat I mean? That's sure, and
you know it was part of livingin Las Vegas. I felt and maybe
(05:55):
you've had the same experience that particularshow going there was hot. You get
there, you go inside, hitwith the AC coming out. I feel
like you're still defrosting from the AC. So it didn't feel as hot going
back to the car. And it'snot as long a walk as it sounds
like. I'm gonna I'm gonna parkat Mandalay and I'm gonna walk over on
the It's really not as long awalk as it sounds like. Right by
(06:17):
now, everybody who's listening to thispodcast has probably done the walk and they're
like, yeah, it's fine.And look, if we're really taxing the
tourists when it's all said and done, which was probably what we should do
for the a's if they're going tobenefit from all those pedestrians filing back into
the casinos, why wouldn't we passthat tax on? It makes sense they're
clearly going to pay it lets.Public assistance doesn't necessarily mean the public of
(06:41):
Clark County, the public of LasVegas. It could mean all the public
people, everybody in the public whopays tax in this town, and there's
a lot of it's obviously mostly touriststo do that, so
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