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Speaker 1 (00:01):
In a world of shadows and hots, goal.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
With pain its deep souls, a dreamy there's a manity,
soft hope, whispered promise, wade cold, an evy corn, a
wet darkness.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Lands in a hot lovement. There's a yearning.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome to the deep dive Today, we're taking a bit
of a shortcut. We want to get you really well informed,
fast on something absolutely vital for growing your career. That's right,
we're talking about networking exactly, but not just skimming the surface.
We're digging into shoe chan House book network like a
pro strategist for job seekers to build meaningful relationships.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
It's a fantastic resource, it really is.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
So our mission is to pull out the most important ideas,
maybe some surprising facts that can genuinely change how you
think about building those connections that really move your career forward.
Let's get into it, Okay, let's unpack this shoot in
and how kicks things off with a really strong point.
Relationships are often just as critical as your actual skills
and experience in today's job market.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah, it's fundamental. We focus so much on polishing that resume.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Don't we We do, But the book argues it's really
about who you know and maybe more importantly, who knows
you well enough to vouch for you. Why is that
connection so paramount?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Well, think about it. We live in this world of algorithms, right,
applicant tracking systems, AI scanning, resumes.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Right, the keyword game exactly, and those.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Systems they can filter out really great candidates just because
the wording isn't perfect. A personal referral though, that's like
a human stamp of credibility.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It cuts through the noise completely.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Someone is putting their own reputation on the line for you.
That's powerful, and you know, beyond just job leads, these
relationships offer huge emotional support.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh that's a great point. Job searching, career changes.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, they can be tough, they really can. Having that
network provides a kind of safety net, a real lifeline sometimes.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
That credibility piece definitely sets networking apart from just you know,
firing off applications into the void. But for a lot
of people, the word networking it just brings up anxiety.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh absolutely, images of forced smiles, awkward silences, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
How does the book help us get past that initial dread?
How do we build a better mindset?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
This is where shoe Chin Howe offers a really useful reframe.
Instead of thinking you need to go in and impress everyone,
which is stressful, hugely stressful. Instead think of yourself as
a curiosity agent. Your main goal isn't to get something
or even to look smart. It's just to learn one
interesting thing from each person you talk to.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I like that curiosity agent, right.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It totally lowers the stakes. You shift from trying to
press to just being genuinely interested, and that makes the
conversation flow naturally, lets your real personality come through.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So it moves away from that transactional feel just grabbing business.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Cards Pwisley, away from what the book calls transactional networking
towards relational networking, building real connections based on trust, maybe
shared interests, definitely mutual support.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, curiosity agent. That definitely changes the energy. So if
we adopt that mindset, how do we actually build those
deeper connections. What are the key things we should be doing?
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
A huge part of it is active listening, and I
mean really listening, not just waiting for your turn to speak.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's harder than it sounds.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Sometimes it is give your full attention, ask open ended questions,
the kind that invite a story, not just a yes
or no. Instead of say, having a good time, maybe
try what's the most interesting conversation you've had tonight?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Okay? That opens things up.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
It does, and when you're truly listening, you start picking
up on shared interests, common ground. That's the foundation for
a real connection. And the book really hammers home authenticity here.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Just be yourself makes sense, Be present, be interested. Now,
building on that, shoo Chin, Howe introduces a concept that
feels really pivotal, the idea of giving before receiving.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yes, this is so important.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It feels a bit counterintuitive, right. We often go into
networking thinking about what we need. How does this giving
first thing work in practice? Why is it so effective?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It completely shifts the dynamic. Instead of what can this
person do for me, you're thinking, hmm, what value can
I offer them? Or maybe just what can I contribute
to this conversation?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So what does that look like? Sharing an article?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Exactly? Sharing a relevant article offering a useful insight, maybe
connecting two people you know who could help each other
out little things?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
The book talks about creating a cycle of reciprocity when
you consistently offer value without expecting something back. Immediately, you
build massive goodwill. People see you as helpful, generous.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
And then they're more likely to want to help you
down the line.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Precisely, it makes the whole process feel less extractive and
more collaborative.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's a powerful shift. It turns networking into something more
like community building. Okay, so we've made connections. We're focusing
on giving value, but a network isn't built in a day.
How does the book advise nurturing these relationships long term?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Consistency is key. Absolutely, a network needs tending like a garden.
First step the follow up. Always follow up within say
twenty four to forty eight hours.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To make it personal, right, not just a generic definitely personalized.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Mentioned something specific you talked about, But it can't stop there.
Maintaining relationships means proactive engagement.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Over time, like what just checking in?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Checking in? Yeah, yes, celebrating their wins, promotions, work anniversaries,
sharing articles or insights you think they'd find interesting, using
tools like LinkedIn to engage with their posts. It's about
staying gently on their radar with genuine, thoughtful interactions.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Okay, so it's an ongoing process. We've built the connections them.
Now how do we tap into this network effectively, not
just for the next job, but for overall career growth.
What are the smart ways to activate these relationships.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
One really effective strategy highlight in the book is using
informational interviews.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, I've heard of those, but what's the right way
to do them?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
The key thing shoe Chin House stresses is the purpose.
You're there to gather information and advice, not to explicitly
ask for a job that comes later.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Maybe okay, so less pressure exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You identify people in roles or companies that interest you,
send a short, polite message asking if they'd spare fifteen
twenty minutes for you to learn from their experience, and
you need to prepare. Oh absolutely, research their background, Prepare thoughtful,
open ended questions during the chat, listen, actively, take notes,
build rapport, and crucially respect their.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Time and follow up afterwards.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Always a prompt thank you note mentioning something specific you
learned is critical. It keeps the door open and reinforces
the connection. It's a fantastic way to get insider insights
and subtly make yourself known.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That feels much more organic, less transactional again, so looking
at the long game. Shoot, chin Hoo calls networking a
lifelong strategy. What does that mean in practice? How do
we keep this going beyond just the immediate job hunt?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, this is about the bigger picture. Networking doesn't stop
once you land the job. It just evolves. You lean
even more into that relational value giving mindset. You keep
nurturing those connections and staying relevant exactly, continuous learning, staying
curious about your industry, engaging with trends, often through conversations
within your network. Cultivating a diverse network is important too
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for different perspectives.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Right, not just people like you.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Absolutely and all this activity, online engagement, authentic conversations, it
builds your personal brand. People start to understand your unique value.
The book suggests the future really lies in this blend
of digital and face to face. Prioritizing diversity, being intentional,
and always always being authentic. That's what sustains a career.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Wow, Okay, so we've really journeyed through Shuchenhau's network like
a pro. We've uncovered these actionable strategies, looked at the
mindset shifts, reframing anxiety, the power of giving first nurturing connections.
It really can change your career path.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It absolutely can. And remember this isn't just about finding
your next job. It's about building a strong, supportive community
around you that will help you navigate your entire professional life,
offering guidance, opportunities and just plain resilience.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Well said. And for listeners who want to explore this
further or find more resources from doctor shu Chen, how
you can find Coquishing Son Ltd. Online. That website is
coqushingsand dot.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Net definitely worth checking out.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So as you go about your day, here's something to
think about. What's one connection you could genuinely invest in
this week, maybe just by being that curiosity agent or
offering one small piece of value. Think about the ripple
effect that single action could have on your career years
from out.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
In a world of shadows, loom and hearts grow.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
With pain, its deep, the souls a dreamy. There's a
many solve.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Hope, a whispered promise. Wead cold in every corner where
darkness lands, any hardware love lands.
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There's a yearning.
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The sanity for we all can truly be free. So
lets men fur broak again.
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with every sunrise.
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