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twenty twenty five is episode eighteen ninety two. The scoters
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I'm just gonna start by reading. His first article came
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from Reclaimthinternet dot org. It's in reference to the Cocks
versus Sony Supreme Court is SIP copyright liability, free speech,
you call it so came out today Supreme Court fight
that could decide who gets to stay online. Tech giants
and civil liberties groups are urging the Court to reject
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a ruling that weaponizes copyright law against everyday Internet users.
Is by Dan Free as it reads a lineup of
civil liberties organizations, technology companies, and Internet freem advocates how
to file brief supporting Cox Communications, and they closely watch
Supreme Court case that could dramatically alter how Internet service
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providers respond to copyright complaints. The case Cox Communications versus
Sony Music Entertainment asked whether ISPs must terminate Internet service
to users accused but not convicted of privacy interesting so
guilty toll proven innocent guilty and just at will not
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continue on The Supreme Court's upcoming decision is one of
the most consequential related cases in years, not just for
copyright law, but for the future of how people access
the Internet in the United States. At stake is a
fundamental question. Can Internet service providers be held liable to
force and force the cutoff Internet access to users simply
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because even accused of copyright infringement without any judicial process
or proof. Those stanle WITHCOX include the Electronic front Tier Foundation,
American Civil Liberties Union, Google, Amazon and Microsoft, Mozilla, Pine
Pine Arrests, and x Interesting. Google, Amazon, and Microsoft are
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on the same team. Interesting, I'll continue on key Wee
Farm Farms. Founder and President of US Internet Preservation Society
Joshua Moon also filed a brief in support of needed party,
but opposing Internet cutoffs and arguing that contribute tory copyright
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infringement is a judge made doctrine without a satutory basis,
and it has become unworkable and unfair because courts have
never clearly defined its knowledge standard. This vagueness, combined with
the rise of the DMCA's notice and takedown regime, has
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child free speech and fair use, extended copyright monopolies, and
produced abusive practices. COX argue that the Fourth Circuit ruling,
which held it liable for contributory infringement and ordered a
new damages trial, create an untentable standard that would force
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ISPs to police user activity under the threat of billion
dollar judgments. In a joint brief, the Electronic Frontier Foundation,
American Library Association others sharply criticized the Force Circuits, Interpretation,
Tronic Frontier Foundation, American Library Association, other groups file a
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joint amicus brief urging the Court to reject the liability
framework adapted by the Fourth Circuit. They argue that ruling
the ruling could lead to widespread loss of Internet access
based on unproven accusations, with disapportion to consequences for ordinary people.
The brief stresses the importance of online access and modern life,
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stating innet access is essential to participation in economic, cultural,
and social activity. The group's caution that adopting a liability
standard based on mere knowledge rather than intent or inducement,
would cause serious collateral harm. The brief warrants that imposing
such rules on ISPs would invitably vitiably result in users
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being disconnected because someone else in their household or workplace
was accused of an infringement. They further argued that the
Fourth Circuit decision and properly expanded secondary copyright liability without
congressional authorization, threatened to undermine constitutional protections tied to access, communication,
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and expression. Even the US Department of Justice weigh in
signed with Cox on legal key legal issues. The DOJA
total courts that the Fourth circuit approach cannot be reconciled
with the Court's precedent and warrant against punishing providers who
may simply be indifferent but not complicit. In his brief,
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the DJ stress the evidence demonstrated at most at Cox
was indifferent to a subscribers infringement, not that Cox intended
to participate in that infringement or wish to bring it about.
On the issue of the willful infringement, the DOJ added
that wilfulness in the civil content text generally requires knowledge
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or reckless disregard of the fact that one's own conduct
is unlawful, not just knowledge of someone else's actions. A
coalition of major tech companies Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Mozilla, and
pine Arrest also submitted ununified brief opposing the lower course
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interpretation of contributory liability. They argue that the DMCA already
outlined specific safe harbor rules and the Fourth Circuits ruling
and properly weaponizes the absence of safe harbor protection. The
four Circuit ruling erroneously turns Congress's DMCA safe harbors into
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a liability created mechanism. The companies did. They argue that
liability should only attach to those engaged in conscious culpable
conducts substantially assisting the primary wrongdoer. The brief makes it
clear that a finding of wilfulness demands more than simple awareness.
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Wilfness turns on the defendant's mental state regarding its own conduct.
USIPS criticized the legal foundation of the lower courts ruling
as illegitimate, and warned that fear of liability is driving
ISPs towards censorship. The brief offers a critique of how
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the DMCA is more from a the legislatives compromised into
a de facto tool of censorship. According to the authors,
the number of such takedown notices are staggering, and the
sheer valume further underscores the fact that there cannot be
any meaningful review of material subjects to a takedown notice
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to check for such nice ties as fair use or
prime authorization. They warned that lower courts have decided that
the decided to mirror receipt of a DMCA takedown notice
nevertheless gives rise to contributory copyright liability, a legal shift
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that discourages due process and chills lawful speech. The brief
also highlights how automated systems have enabled back actors to
reaponize copyright claims against dissent and criticism. Takedown notices are
increasingly being used for purely abusive purposes to remove political advertisement, fact,
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tire performance, art, and online information important to virtually all
aspects of modern life, it states. In an especialty concerning President,
the Tenth Circuit held that simply reposting a takedown notice
itself is evident of contributory infringement liability, further entrenching legal
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risk for those who speak out. The outcome of this
case could ripple across every household, library, a small business
in the country. The Supreme Court affirms the Fourth Circuits,
reasoning ISPs might be pressured to disconnect users as a
receiving infringement claims without waiting for any court to confirm wrongdoing. Interesting.
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It's funny because sometimes I see some flip flopping to
even from Google. With all due respect, people have been
censored online at will. Now they want to make a
claim to be against it from Sony Well. Truth of
the matter is, this whole thing at will is a sham, deceptive,
and and it does violate through process. Even on this
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civil matter. You gotta they have to back up their
claims and their facts instead of doing things instantaneously. That's
what based on this article is all about. I have
to agree with the petition on this matter to renounce
the decision from the Fourth Circuits reasoning. And don't get
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me wrong, if they lently violate copyright infringement, the guys
take it to the courts, back up their facts, access
all that good stuff, licenses and all that, then they
may have a case. But then you do anything in sight,
including fair use under the fair use abuse the fair
use laws or trans or bypass that that's when it
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gets very dangerous and they can just do anyone at will.
It could be like he said, she said, a little
like the little kids, a little kid like snitching. We're
talking okay or douilty. That's that's They're gonna play a
little child's game, Romper room one oh one. Well, one
thing I know for sure, this needs to be renounced
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and hopefully the Scotis will prevail that petition. And I'm
gonna do my final segment right after this, so stay tuned. Alright,
I'm back. I'm gonna do one more. Heroes came from
the Idaho Statesman dot com came out yesterday, but got
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up there today. FBI awarded agents for Oregon stand up bravery.
Amon Bundy says it's based on lies and the person
who wrote this, if I'm correct, it's Nicole Blanchard. All right,
then a little bit blanch you have to say about this, Yeah,
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got up there today, says here Key Takeaways awarded bravery
medals to four agents involved in the twenty sixteen Oregon standoff.
Bundy family's disputes FBI account siting DOJ probe and aerial
footage evidence attributed bullet and Ryan budd Bundy's arm could
raise new questions family claims. Amon Bunden, a far right
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activist who left Idaho twenty twenty three three after a
contentious court case ordering him to pay millions to faint
Luke's health system, has taken issue with the FBI's decision
to award agents were involved in the shooting death of
a man who occupied an Eastern Oregon wildlife refuge alongside
Bundy in twenty sixteen. This is interesting because, like I said,
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far right activist woo the paradigm rheter grime. I'll continue
on his statement to the media Bundee's family contended that
the narrative shared in an apparent FBI document included mostly
false information about the fatal shoot of Arizona rancher Robert
Levoy Finnicum by Oregon State Police on January twenty six,
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twenty sixteen. Here's what we know about what happened that day,
Bundy's account Finnicum shooting alligance with reports. The Bundee family
statement included a photo of FBI Director Cash Mattel standing
with four men with an FBI shield of bravery a
word displayed in front of them. Those those men included
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FBI agents Joseph Aesthetia and John Knight. Not neatheartner, excuse me.
The photo was published in The Oregonian, which said a
source shared it from an internal FBI document. The image
includes a caption a tribute to the FBI describing the
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agency's version of the shooting and his justification for honoring
the agents. Okay, so interesting there, Okay, all the more
red flag around Cash Betel. All right, yeah, leave the hype,
believe the hype. Oh I'm saying I'm laud because it's
pretty disturbing too. It's like when Bill Barr praised the
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men that we did that did that standoff at Ruby Ridge,
and of course what happened at the ATF they praised
those people will happen at Waco. The Waco mask many
of us call it. I'll continue on the captain states
that the FBI's hostage team responded to the Militia group's
arm takeover by staging a traffic stop to rest group's
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leader and key members outside the refuge where the members
planned to meet Clandestiny. The caption continued to say, as
the militia leader trapped Kneader under the leader's vehicle, and
that other FBI agents free Kneader as the leader's attempt
to fire at Oregon State Police officers and was finally shot.
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What not quoted the video I see for the Oregonian. Wow.
I'll continue on the Bundyes rebuttal more closely matched matches
news reporting and the Department of Justice investigating of the shooting.
The Bundye statements at Finnicum did not ram a law
enforcement vehicle, pain a special agent, or attempted to shoot
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Orgon State Police aerial FBI footage are the incident and
the Department just investigation coulde that finnicams truck swerved into
a snowbank and not hit law enforcement vehicles that were
blocking the road. That is a fact. I've seen the
video myself from the Oregonian. According to reporting from the Oregonian,
Nieder was thrown from a ladder he was using to
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see over the FBI's truck had ended up in the
snow and near one of the rear tires out of
finicums truck. Reports didn't show that he was hit by
or pinned under the vehicle. I'll continue on. The final
claim has been the most contentious piece of Finnicem's death.
Whether he intended to harn law enforcement officers said, and
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video showed the rancher moved his hands into his jacket
after everything his truck immediately found the crash. The Oregon
State Police officers said they shot Finnckham when he refused
to comply with orders to get on the ground. According
to the DOJ investigation, so they shot him for not complying. Okay,
so that don't make any sense at all, but I'll
continue on. Of course he had his hands into his jacket.
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Code out there go figure, good agree if I continue on? Investigators.
Investigators later found a loaded handgod in the left interior
pocket of his jacket. According to the that's what's the
County Sheriff's Office he had. He was reportedly known to
law enforcement to wear a shoulder holster on the left
side of his body. The OSP hold on here, I
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guess I goofed up. Okay, cool. The OSP admitted shooting
him three times when he lowered his arms, but there
is absolute evidence that he aimed or fired a weapon
of officers. The Bundy finally state, the family statement said,
and reports appear to line with that. Official said they
believe Finnicum could have planned to draw a weapon. He
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didn't aim. I know he didn't name officers. He didn't
aim a firearms at him. So I've seen the videos myself,
and I do that in good faith. It was the
other way around I was. I would have been making
a different view, this different statement. I'll continue on how
aimons Ammand's Bundy standoff began. The Bundees, Finnicum and numerous
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others started their occupation with the Maller Wildlife Refuge near Burns,
Oregon on January second, twenty twenty sixteen. Final demonstration and
support of local ranchers, were convicted of arson for sitting
fires and fatally managed land. The occupiers tore down fences,
carved new roads on the reserve, and posted armed guards
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during their forty one day occupation. Former Idaho Statesman reporter
Rocky Barker wrote at the time. Bundy at the time
to reports the activists were here to re establish a constitution,
and some of those involved, including the Bundies, had history
as advocated against federal management of public land. Three weeks
into the occupation, the Bundyes and Finicam headed to Don
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John Day, Oregon to meet with Grant County Sheriff Glenn
Palmer the Bundee family. The Bundy family statement noted this
and there said and said their destination was not Callouston,
as the FBI document alleged. The Bundies and several others
in the vehicles were arrested in charge with multiple federal
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crime decline conspiracy to impede federal officers. Ultimately, the Bundees
and five others were a c of all charges, like
jurors that prosecutors failed to prove their intent. More than
a dozen others involved in the stand up for convictor
or plead the guilt of the federal charges. There was
anything about that. If I remember up that case, there
are multiple people involved in that group were considered FBI informants,
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and a prosecuting attorney did uh wanna present those individuals.
He's trying to trying to get that retracted, and the
drake gatting the big more effect, give him the big
mental finger. Now we have the right to know, so
I'll continue on. Bundy's statement raises questions of rogue FBI
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around I'm in. Bundy's brother, Im Bundy, was also injured
the incident. The Bundy family statement said Ryan Bundy, who
was in Finicum's truck during the shooting, plans to undergo
surgery to remove what their claimant is a bullet that
has remained in his arm since the incident. The statement said,
the government has never accounted for this round. Indeed, there
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has been a confusion over how many shots were fired
when Finnickum was killed and who fired them. To Oregon
State Police, officers fired six shots, three of which hit Finnicum.
The agency's ballistics investigators also found a bullet strike inside
of Finnicum's truck that could not be attributed to officers.
According to the dj investigation, after the shooting, investigators were
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able to find ammunition castings on a tribute attribute the
source of two additional gunshots that could not be heard
in videos from the scene. FBI agents initially denied firing
shots or picking up casings at the scene, despite video
that showed agents with flash searching areas were casing had
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been seen. The Office of the Office of the Inspector
General launched a criminal investigation determined the shots had been
fired from where the two FBI agents and the Oregon
State Police officer had been standing. Asterida, whom Patel awarded
the Shield of Bravery, was one of those agents. He
maintained that he hadn't fired his weapon and was tried
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and acquitted of charges that involved making false statements and
instruction of justice in twenty eighteen. Officials still have not
attributed the shot to resource. Prosecutors Insterida's case has asked
to have object to Ryan bundy shoulder, which they said
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could be a bullet fragment, a piece of Fat Finicom's truck,
or something else, removed and analyzed its evidence during the
agent's case. According to reporting from Oregon Public broadcasting. The
Bundy family said information about the object removed from Ryan
Bundy's arms could raise more questions in the instant. They
demand the agency in Argon State Police comply with ballistics
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comparisons when when the object is removed to determine its source.
That bullet may prove not only that the FBI agent
fire shots that he did not admit, but that those
hidden rounds struck Ride himself, said the statement where it
was originally published September seventh, twenty twenty five, at four
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a m correction. An earlier version of the story included
an incorrect date of Nigan's death. He died on Janey
twenty sixth, twenty sixteen. Corrected it was corrected. Well. Interesting,
So I still question these things. Don't get me wrong,
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and it is stuck to their principles. And what happened
was they remember what happened to the Bundy ran in Nevada.
So you can say it's a ramification of cause and effect.
According to the US Constitution, federal gum can only use
a ten square mile of land for certain things. And
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sometimes it gets a little bit now is getting a
little bit too ridiculous. They own a lot more federal land,
which is unconstitutional. It should be left to the states.
So you have to always look at those angles. It's
just that's one of the reasons why they went over there,
because what happened in Nevada didn't want to see happened to
anyone else. So it's called precedent. And they don't like that.
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Well too bad. I'm not you know that, say everyone
everyone in the FBI, bad folks, anything like that. But
we're gonna have rogue elements in these institutions. That's why
we have to go excite our natural rights, federal, state
or local. It what happened to Finnic them, I still
say it was unacceptable. I renounced it today based on
the footage I've witnessed, so there's some videos, and of
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course the Oregonian too when it was a released. I
questioned everything on this because as far as I'm concerned,
Finnicum should never got shot. But here's one thing we
gotta look at. They've been a lot of the federal government,
whether the atf FBI don't really matter, they are. They're
getting weighs so much. But now things are backfiring. I
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support downsizing and being decentralized. Too much federalization, centralization. It's
extremely treacherous in our republic. They could have been a
little bit done differently. Yeah, I can understand that, but
you know what, they stood in their ground and those
infiltrators in that particular group Fbiformance, they got caught in
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the trials. They gotta quit it. They all. You gotta
beware of these little gathering rallies, put a parade protests.
You always gotta meet rogue elements trying to stir crap up.
Does a matter they're fed the state local is nothing
really new. We have to learn what happened with George
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Floyd protests. Many of them were riding, were busting paid
to do that. Even the rogue elements that were in
JA six handful of people were hired, hired fools agents.
Even these even these big rities from the Klan and
Nazis all that. Don't be surprised if they're all federally funded.
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You always gotta look at this. The waters get triggered,
so we always gotta step back and see the bigger picture.
The Roy Vinnikum did nothing wrong. You should never got
shot and that that's the case. Basically, the report the
people fbire not more than a bunch of line hypocritical scumbags.
I see that good faith. I'm gonna go after the
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entire everyone who's involved, everyone who works for the particular institution.
You'relways gonna have criminal elements. That's just how the nature
of the beast is. Manisto will be forever free the
bundies they stood, stay for what's right. And if Thomas
Jefferson said, once a little rebellion now and then is good,
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