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March 12, 2024 30 mins
Although some might consider Loewen the fittest mom after the 2023 NOBULL CrossFit Games, she doesn’t feel she should hold the title of “Fittest Mom on Earth.”“Moms have a lot of pressure on themselves. The last thing I want a mom to see is if you’re not competing at a CrossFit Games level, you’re not doing enough. … We already have so much unrealistic expectations of ‘you have to fit back in your clothes, you have to lift what you lifted before.’ All your kid wants is you and for you to love them. It takes time and patience.”After facing the challenges that come along with giving birth and becoming a mother, Loewen realized that regardless of fitness ability, every mom is a super mom. Whether they are doing CrossFit to get back in shape after birth, to be able to pick up their kid when they are a toddler, or to prove to themselves they can overcome challenges, parenthood is no small feat. “Everybody has a purpose. I’m lucky and thankful that my talent has brought me to the CrossFit Games. … Other girls, their journey might not look similar, but it’s still just as important, just as amazing, just as great,” Loewen said. “Comparison is the thief of joy. So I’d hate for them to look at me and be like, ‘I’m only successful if I make it to the Games after having a kid.’ No, your journey is different. And it is more than enough. It’s awesome.”
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(00:14):
Hello, everyone, Welcome to London'sLeadership Podcast. Today, I have the
honor of speaking to the world's fittestmum. Ariel Leewin, who came third
in the CrossFit Games this past season, is with me. Hey, Ariel,
how are you? Hey? I'mgreat, Thank you for having me.
I was able to visit London backin December and it's magical. So

(00:35):
the fact that you get to livethere year round is unbelievable. What part
of America are you based in?Are you so? Picture trucks, cowboy
boots, cowboy hats. You'll seethat all over our city. Yeah,
I was in what part of Texas? Are you in? Midland? Texas?

(00:57):
So there's Dallas for the games,and then there's El Paso where the
border of Mexico is. We're rightmidlands, like right in the middle.
I love Texas. I was inTexas. I got I go to I
go to Dallas quite a bit,and I go to Houston quite a bit.
And I love Texan hospitality. Y'all. Yeah, it's a thing like

(01:18):
we stood out like a Thord thumbin London because our accent. How we
say y'all, you guys and allthat you're like, where are you from?
We already know Texas. Yeah,I've got really a great friend of
mine. His name is David,his whole family. I love them and
and they're actually based in Houston,so whenever I go visit them, I

(01:40):
always love, love, love Texas. Do you go summer I've been?
I went. When was the lasttime I went? I think I went
around summertime last year and then NewYear's the New Year's that year, So
yeah, I really loved it,very hot. So Ariel, we want

(02:04):
to find out how you became theworld's fittest mom what. But before we
get to that, we want totalk a little bit about mindset, about
what your daily routinees like, anytricks that you might have. But before
we do that, why don't youtell us a little bit about your story
how you got into CrossFit so ourlisteners might know a little bit more about

(02:27):
you. Yeah. I got inacross fit twenty twelve, so almost twelve
years ago, just out of highschool. I was working at a tier
gym at the time as a coach, and my boss actually did CrossFit,
and I was expressing to him,how like, I'm done with high school,
I'm not in track anymore. I'mnot in tier. I want to
work out, but I don't knowwhat what to do. So it was

(02:49):
like, come try acrossfit class withme, and the first workout I showed
up, they told me what todo. It was different every day.
It got your heart rates fightd andit was only an hour. So I
just fell in love. So,but I was freshed out of high school.
Crossfits here are very expensive, liketwo hundred dollars a month, so
I remember falling in love with it, but I couldn't afford it. So
I actually went to the owner andwas like, hey, I love what

(03:13):
you have here. Is there anyway we can work out a deal?
So he let me clean the gymin exchange for a membership, where I
would clean the sweat towels and exchangefor a membership. So it was like
a high school student. They taughtme everything I know and I just,
like head over heels, fell inlove. So I started in twenty twelve.
From twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen,I made it to what was called

(03:34):
regionals at the time, so Ihad decent success, which is now the
equivalent to semifinals. Decent success inthe sport. I could just never break
the barrier to make it to theGames. So twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen
tried to make it to the games. Never happened, and then twenty eighteen
the regional was in Salt Lake City. I sew up. I felt weird.

(03:55):
I could barely handstand walk, andthen I remember telling Dylan, who's
my husband. Now, I waslike, don't let me do this again.
I hate competing, I'm not havingfun. I'm over this. And
then come to find out I waspregnant, so retired from the sport,
took my husband's last name, focusedon my family. But the one thing
that was still constant in my lifewas CrossFit. So even when I was

(04:18):
pregnant, even postpartum, I wouldshow up and still go to the daily
CrossFit class. And then twenty twentyone rolled around, I'm still doing the
daily CrossFit class. I might aswell sign up for the open. Ended
up signing for the open, unexpectedlyqualifying for the Games, and then it's
kind of just been an upward,unexpected trajectory since then. Amazing, And

(04:42):
I saw somewhere that you have anMBA. I do, so this is
funny too. Twenty eighteen, Iwent through regionals, which is like semifinals,
didn't qualify. The next weekend,I graduate with my MBA from the
college I went to. So Iwas like, okay, cross, it
is done. I'm retiring. NowI'm gonna have my MBA. I'm going
to go into the business world.And then I find out I'm pregnant,

(05:05):
so I can't even do that.So there was a lot of identity crisis
that happened in twenty eighteen. Soit was like, Okay, businesswoman,
No, that's not gonna happen.Professional cross, bitter, not gonna happen.
Okay, I guess I'm just gonnabe the best wife and mom I
can be. And then now it'sjust flourished. I'm just I mean,

(05:25):
I'm just wondering if if the NBAroute, the business route, had succeeded,
what would you have what would youhave wanted to do. I don't
really know. I got asked thatquestion when I was at Fitfest, and
I thought I wanted to work inthe airline industry. But now traveling more,
I see what a hard industry thatis. I don't know. I

(05:46):
really liked school, like I'm verygood with deadlines. I'm very good with
assignments, so I was really goodat the school part. But I've never,
i like, had a real jobto where i could even see what
I'm good at. But I willsay I've learned a lot from the marketing
business side of the NBA. Igot that I can apply to my social
media business as goofy as that marketingand that aspect. Mhmm, all right,

(06:12):
well, yeah, I've seen yourI saw your video of your home
gym on YouTube, and I thinkI think it's amazing that you that you're
able to train, that you've gotyour own home gym, you've got your
garage gym, which is amazing.So I think that might be helpful for
us to just talk a little bitabout how you develop the mindset too to
get to where you are, howyou how you're able to balance that with

(06:36):
being a mom and a wife andall that that entails. But let's start
a little bit with with mindset.How how do you develop the mindset to
come third at the cross of theGames but also be the world's fittest mum.
Is there anything you'd be able toshare with us about that? Yeah.
This past year actually I focused alot on internal strengths, mindset,

(06:58):
and like the strengths that comes fromin here that you can't really do reps
to build it. So what happenedis after I qualified for the Games twenty
twenty one and twenty twenty two year, I was actually at an affiliate and
it actually caused more stress internally thanit should have. So example, I
didn't tag them in an Instagram postthat I'd posted, so they got mad

(07:21):
at me when I'm like, hey, I'm just here to work out.
Music's too loud, when I waslike, too many external factors. So
actually this passed year twenty twenty three, my husband built an off of house.
We included a garage gym, andI was like, I'm just going
to work out from the garage gymfor a month. And the piece was
unbelievable. I didn't have to dealwith like, oh, your stuff is

(07:44):
in the way. Hey there's toomuch chalk on the floor, Hey you
need to move your bar bell,there's we're trying to move here. It's
just peace. So I was like, Okay, I'll work out here for
another month, another month, anothermonth, and then now I'm just addicted
to the garage gym life. Soit is hard because I mean there's not
much accountability. I'm just working outby myself. But the mental piece it's

(08:05):
given me this past year to whereI can just like grow my internal straight.
I don't have to focus on anyonebut me being the best I can
be. If I need encouraging musicon, I can put it on.
If I need to throw chalk everywhere, I can put it on and nobody
cares. So as daunting as itmight be to work out alone, it's
given me peace and that's like greaterthan anything. So working alone has helped

(08:31):
develop your inner strength. What otherthings do you think that you do that
help to develop that inner strength,that mindset that you have. Yeah,
so this is what's interesting this pastyear. I do my cardio piece first,
so I'll have like high intensity musicplaying to where there's a good beat.
But whenever i'm doing my strength work, which is about an hour and

(08:52):
a half afterwards, I play worshipmusic. I play peaceful music, which
is building up who I am inmy core. So while I'm building my
like bench press, I'm also beingreminded of like I'm more than CrossFit.
There are bigger things in CrossFit,So just really focusing my music, focusing
what my eyes are watching, listeningto on Like, how can I build

(09:16):
up my inner strength? Tell mea bit about that. You said worship
and you're inner strength and you're morethan CrossFit. Where do you get that
from? What? Yeah, whathappened essentially is in twenty eighteen when I
had my identity crisis, my internalstrength came from I had an MBA,

(09:37):
I was hoping to go to theGames, all of these external things,
so when they got ripped out,I had to rebuild my life from the
floor up. So I was like, Okay, I'm going to start with
my faith. Then I'm going tohave my family, then I'm going to
have my friends, and then fitnesswill be just like an extra cherry on
the tree. So now, likeeven going into whenever I qualified for the
Games in twenty one, it waslike, Okay, my faith is great,

(10:01):
my family is great, let's justhave fun with fitness. And then
I was like, oh, I'mdoing good, and there was there's just
never been any more pressure because I'mreally grounded and like I know who I
am and I know my family lovesme regardless if I get third place with
the Games or never make it tothe Games, and I had so when
I talk about the piece, Ifelt like I had that same piece going

(10:22):
into the Games this year and itwas just like, let's just go out
there and do my best. Sothere was never any expectation pressure. It
was just me trying to be thebest I could be on the floor.
Mm. Yeah, I like whatyou're saying about your your identity wasn't based
on just solely fitness or your MBAwas based on something else. On your

(10:45):
faith. Could you just a lotof our listeners probably, could you just
explain a little bit about what thatmeans to you, what your faith means
to you, and if you feelcomfortable doing that. Yeah, of course.
So a lot of times whenever Isay faith, a lot of people
will be like, Okay, whatchurch do you go to? And the
wild thing is, I haven't beento like a what you would consider a

(11:09):
church in probably three years. WhatI'll do is I'll just open the Bible
and read the Bible, and Sundaymornings, I'll meet with a group of
friends at their house and we'll justbe like, Okay, let's read John
chapter one. What is God sayinghere? Next week John chapter two.
So we take out the fluff,we take out the you have to look
a certain way to go to church. You have to tie to the church

(11:31):
all the horrible things that like surroundthe church. We're like, we're just
going to focus on the Bible,like what is God saying we should do?
Okay, let's live by that andkeep it simple. So for the
past three years it's just been readingthe Bible and learning like who Jesus is
and trying to have a relationship thatway, not putting on an act Sunday

(11:52):
morning. So that's what it lookslike for me. Wow, Well,
it's interesting that you say that thatI think your faith came alive if I
heard you rightly, like after likein the middle of the crisis, like
when exactly when things started to fallapart, it was like your faith came
together. And after that it's likeeverything else came together again. And then

(12:18):
that's what's beautiful. And even nowit's like my life is like this beautiful
tree and it's flourishing because it's beingwatered by the right thing. If I
was just being watered by cross it, I mean I got fourth placed the
water clues that it's not as goodas third, you know, I would
just be like, oh my treefell down again. But it's just like
blessing after blessing of these little fruitsgrowing. Wow. Yeah, I found

(12:43):
that too. Actually when I waswhen I was I was, I was
born in a prison and both myparents with drug addicts and criminals, and
I had my whole life. Myown life was kind of destroyed. By
the time that I was nineteen,I would I would, I was just
a complete mess. And in themidst of that is when I also like
met Jesus and he started to changemy life and rebuild me. And and

(13:07):
I'm so grateful now that my faithis the most important thing to me.
And obviously my life is a lotdifferent now, and I help out at
church, I work for a church, and I do cross fit as well.
But definitely my faith helps to centereverything and everything else is just it's
just a bonus. But really itcomes from from who he says I am.

(13:31):
Yeah, thank you for sharing that. And I almost feel like you
have to have that realization moment becauseif your life is too good you don't
need God, you almost have tofall down a bit and be like I'm
not good enough what I try todo with my own hands. Suffie.
Wow, Well, thank you forsharing a bit about that and your faith

(13:52):
and where that came from, andhow that gives you the strength to do
the other things that you do,and how that is the inner strength that
really gives you the mindset to todo everything else. Now, if I
were to just get a little bitlike practical to look at the details,
I really I'm fascinated by this becauseI want to. I want to get

(14:13):
better. I want to. Iwas telling you before I take part in
CrossFit, but I've never My goalis to get to the semifinals. I'm
about two hundred people away in myregion, so I've still got a lot
of work to do. But butwhat would you if you're able to just
walk us through your day, like, what what's a then like a routine

(14:33):
of Eroline? What are the littleand and really try and pick up on
the little things, because I thinkthose little things are really important that you
do that you think, oh,this is like key to help helping me
think better, helping me perform better, helping me live better. What would
those be? What would your daylook like? The first thing I always
have to preface. This works greatfor me, So everybody is different,

(14:56):
but my day it usually starts abouteight eight wake up, have basically the
same breakfast almost every day because I'mvery routine and it works for me.
I'll have a bagel with about threeor four eggs. I'll make breakfast for
me, for my daughter, formy husband, have a cup of coffee,
and then I'll train well. ActuallyI'll have breakfast and then me and

(15:18):
Blakely will hang out in color forabout an hour before I train, So
from about nine to eleven, it'squality time with Blakely. From eleven till
twelve, I'm doing my cardio piecefirst, usually until like thirty minutes interval
style, high intensity every two minutes. We're doing something every one minute,

(15:39):
every three minutes. It varies basedon the day, thirty minutes. Off
season, as it gets closer tothe games, that high intensity will go
to forty minutes. But off seasonI grant myself I don't have to suffer
for ten extra minutes, So I'lldo my cardio piece, and then from
about twelve to one point thirty,I'll do my strength work, which is

(16:00):
like Monday is pool day, somy hamstrings, my squat muscles. Tuesday
is push day, wide grip,bench press, all of that type of
stuff. Wednesday is another pool day. Thursday I take a rest day.
Friday's arm Day, Saturday's leg dayagain, so I get quite a bit
of straight after my strengths work.I'm done at one thirty and then I'm

(16:22):
done with the gym, so I'min the gym from eleven to one thirty.
It's very intentional. It's yeah,it's not much at all when you
compare it to my competitors, butfor my body, more is not better.
I fail that less, higher vault, higher intensity is better for my
body. Otherwise I just nothing's donewith one hundred percent effort, if that

(16:45):
makes sense. Cardio piece strikes peace, and then I'll eat lunch and do
whatever else I need throughout my day. Like today, I have an awesome
podcast with you, and then Blakelyhas soccer practice. I'll take her two
at five thirty. My husband willprobably be home at seven. We'll have
dinner and then go to bed.Sometimes my husband will work out, so

(17:07):
I might work out with him beginin the evening, but it's usually like
very chill. Let's just fine,you know, But as it gets closer
to the games, I will workout again in the evening and it'll just
be thirty minutes of like Bechine worklike every minute eighteen cows on the bike,
you rest one minute, you doit again, very intense, intense

(17:30):
short sprints that's bite the heart rate. And then I'll usually fleet from eleven
to eight and then I do itall over again. Well, and I
know you you write your own programmingfor your cardio, but somebody writes your
strength piece. I think it's amazingthat you only do two and that you
do two and a half hour,two and a half hours, and you're

(17:51):
able to do everything that you do. Thank you. I think I pride
myself and that because it's uncommon andit's unheard of. But I also like,
my phone is not in the gym, and I think what gets a
lot of people is, yeah,they'll do a set, they'll sit on
their phone for ten minutes, they'lldo another set to where I'm like,
I've got two hours. Blakely watchesa movie while I do it. Like,

(18:14):
if I'm not done in two hours, she's coming to the gym to
get me, and my workout's cutoff. Short so I have to get
it done. This is my worktime. If you want to call me,
I won't answer. If you wantto go to lunch, sorry,
this is what I'm working out,but it's my my I prioritize that time.
Brilliant. So you okay, that'sreally that's really helpful, Like no

(18:34):
distractions while you're doing it, befocused, be intentional with what you're doing.
And then so you said you hadyou have a bagel, three or
four eggs. Then you have onehour coloring time with Blakely. They train
from eleven till twelve for your cardio, then twelve to one thirty with your
strength piece. And then what wouldyou like, what would you eat or

(18:55):
how would you what would you eatduring your training? And then what do
you eat off dah, Just sothat yeah, I actually don't eat during
my training. I will after Ifinish my cardio piece, I'll drink like
sixty calories of like a gatorade,so just getting sugars back in my system.

(19:15):
And then I'll do my straights withno food in my system. And
then I'll have a scoop of proteinpowder, a little bit of cretine and
then just eat. I usually makedinner most every night, so I'll eat
whatever's left over or just whatever's ina fridge for lunch. But I don't
track food. I don't track calories, protein, carbs. I just if

(19:36):
I'm hungry, I eat, andI try and just keep it basic like
that, right, all right?So on like what would be an average
post workout meal? Though, likewhat would be right? Here's my lunch
today? So I did my cardiopiece, I did arm day, and
for lunch today I had two anda half and chicken into lattas that I

(19:57):
made last night for day, extraground turkey on the side, and then
subver ice with it. And thenfor dessert, I had three chocolate chip
cookies. Oh good. I thinkit's so liberating that you say that.
I've got a friend who's a healthcoach and she's been trying to help me
improve of that too, of themind of not not not like restricting myself.

(20:21):
Oh you can't have that, youcan't have that. But if you're
hungry, eat, If you're nothungry, don't eat. And I think
that's so freeing for people and theynot counting calories. I think that's also
really helpful what you've just said becausewhen you're counting calories, it can just
be so overwhelming that it's just likenever enough, never good enough, right,
And I've done both of the extremes. So I counted Macro's for a

(20:45):
season and it got it was good, so I identified what was in my
food. But it got to whereI would go to bed starving because I
didn't have any calories left. Thenext day, I'd wake up and feel
horrible working out, so it justdidn't balance. And then whenever coming back
from pregnancy, I never had toworry about losing weight before, so I
went to the extreme of Okay,I'm gonna eat two eggs for breakfast and

(21:10):
that's it. For lunch, I'mgonna have an orange and a slice of
toast, and the extreme of likehounting out carbs, starving yourself. And
then it made me crave every otherfood in the planet. So I'm like,
Okay, this isn't healthy. Ijust want to eat normal all year
round. So this is what thatjourney has led to, of like I

(21:30):
will have a cookie every day andI don't care if research says like,
oh, if you want to bethe best crossbitter, you can't have sugar
It's like, no, if Icut out sugar, then I'm gonna crave
it more. And then whenever Igo to a birthday party, I'm gonna
have ten slices of cake instead ofjust one. Yeah. Really good.
And one of the things I wasjust thinking, just as you were saying

(21:51):
that, I think you're you're obviouslycompeting at what a Blueser and then semifinals.
The games and competition are high stressenvironments that I'm sure you're used to.
But many people who listen to thismight not necessarily be at go to
CrossFit competitions, but they will bein high stress environments in the workplace in

(22:15):
life. What what would how doyou deal with going into a high stress
environment like a competition leading up toit, because I think the lead up
is stressful, then during it's stressful, and then post it's like recovery of
it. What do you what?What? What? How do you think
about that? What do you what'syour mindset with that? Yeah? The

(22:37):
first thing is like for a waterpo looser, For example, I went
to London and then came back andfelt overwhelmed. Okay, I've got a
trade for water po loser. AsI get closer to the competition, I
try and identify things that don't haveto do with the competition that are bringing
me stress. So one of themmight be if somebody wants to hang out

(22:59):
all the time, I have totell them no, and I have to
like put up boundaries of Okay.If I commit to too many things a
day, I go to bed stressedand anxious because I didn't eat as good
because I was out all day.I didn't get to finish my cardio piece
and my strength piece because I committedto this at one and now I can't
finish that. So I say noto more things as it gets closer to

(23:19):
competition, and it helps my mentalpeace a lot because it's like, Okay,
you don't have anything on your scheduletoday, just focus on training and
eating good. Two weeks before thecompetition, especially come games time June to
July, I say no a lot, like hey, let's go here on
the weekends, and I'm like,I'm sorry, No, I would rather

(23:41):
stay home, go to sleep atthe right time, sit on the couch.
Then over commit myself and then I'mmentally stressed from being a people pleaser.
And that's really helpful in the leadup. I think for many listeners
too, who might who aren't CrossFitathletes, who just like, in the
lead up to you, you know, you've got a stressful meeting or a

(24:02):
stressful lead up at work. Letthe lead up to it take away all
the things that you don't have todo and allow yourself to just be present.
And then let's say in the middleof the fight you're in at the
Crosstick Games, high stress. Idon't know. I don't know if you
don't if you sleep well during thatthose those days, like what do you

(24:25):
how do you speak to yourself whenthere's so much going on and so much
is at stake? What's your mindsetin the midst of that. Yeah,
well, I'm very blessed because I'mnot an overthinker. People that think a
little bit more it might be harder, but I can very much only control
what I can control. So forexample, one of the days at the
CrossFit Games, there was a fivek run, a different workout out of

(24:48):
the max total. When I wokeup that day, I thought about,
oh my gosh, I have tomax out on cleans and I have to
max out on snatch, And Istarted to feel like and I was like,
no, first, I have torun a five k. Only focus
on the five k? How shouldI warm up for it? All of
that stuff, and I try andjust stay in the moment. Once the

(25:10):
five k is over, okay,give yourself an hour to breathe and chill
and be proud of your effort.Okay, it's time to warm up for
the next event. Let's compartmentalize.Switch over to this event. Do you
have to like put up barriers,be like, I can only focus on
this right now. I'm not goingto let my mind wander. Okay,
now I'm at the stressful maxx outevent. You can stress out all you

(25:30):
want because it's time, Like thisis your only chance to so you have
to like break up the day.And I did have a bad event at
the Games, and I literally gavemyself thirty minutes. I was like,
think about it all you want forthirty minutes, feel sorry about it,
talk to your husband about it,be mad, be angry. But when
those thirty minutes are up, like, you have to let it go because

(25:52):
in ten minutes we have to warmup for another event. Really good,
but a lot of it does thatcomes from being very self aware, So
like I have to be self awarebecause I don't have a coach, nor
do I want to coach, soI have to be my old mental coach,
warm up coach and all of that. So I have to have all

(26:12):
these hats on of like, Okay, why is my heart right elevated right
now? Oh you're worried about this? Stop worrying about it. Let's focus
on this, Like you have tostay aware all weekend? Really good?
I think what's really what you saidwas really good. Just focus on what
you can control, focus on whatthe things that's right ahead. There's no
point worrying about what's the event sixor there's no point worrying about what's going

(26:36):
to happen that that hasn't happened yet. Just focus on the next hurdle.
Then once that's done, focused onthe next thing. Really good. And
and lastly, just after after thegames or water poloues or a season of
stress, how do you recover fromthat? How do you speak to yourself

(26:57):
if whether you've done well or youhaven't done as well as you would have
liked, what's what's your thinking?Because I know whenever I've gone i've done
something, it really affects me.For a long period of time, and
I often don't want it to butwhat do you do? I usually give
myself a week like this past yearat semifinals, I got third place.

(27:19):
I went into the final event infirst place and then dropped a third.
So I gave myself a week ofnot feeling sorry for myself, but like,
oh, if I would have donethis better, I could have easily
done this if I would have donethis better. And then I usually give
myself a week of like, ifI want to just go for a walk
that day, go for a walk. If I want to do nothing,
I'm going to do nothing. Andthen after a week I'll sit down that

(27:41):
Sunday and game plan, Okay,what went bad that I need to work
on. That's how I'll start programmingmy stuff and take it like I feel
sorry for myself for a week,think about it a week, and then
the next week it's like, howcan we attack this week? This because
I'm like, I try and thinkof it like I'm glad it got exposed.
Now I can work on it reallygood. I think that's so helpful

(28:04):
of like giving yourself some time toOkay, I'm just gonna I'm gonna face
it for this week, but onlythis week. I'm gonna give myself that
time to think about it, andafter that, I'm gonna make it better.
I'm going to see what didn't gowell? All right. It's funny
though because I say that, butafter the games getting third place, I

(28:25):
was like, nothing went bad andthis is great. I don't have to
So it was the first time inmy life I had the like, I
don't even care, I don't haveanything to have regrets on. Yeah,
so good. I was so happyfor you. Thank you, and I'm
cheering you on this season and ontwenty four point three root Ariel twenty four

(28:48):
let's go. Yeah, so it'llbe me against Tia two weeks. So
you want to talk about moms,we'll have like the Battle of the mom's
going on. Well, we're rootedfor you here. Thank you well,
ERICL. Thank you so much forcoming on the podcast today. I'm really
grateful for your time and everything thatyou've shared with me and all of our
listeners. It's been a pleasure talkingto you. Hopefully we'll catch up again

(29:11):
sometime and we're praying for you andcheering you on this season. Thank you,
Thank you for sharing your story aswell, and it's great to hear
it. All right, Well,see you soon. I'll send you a
message after twenty four point three perfect. That sounds great, See you next
time. On London's Leadership Podcast Today, we want to say a special thank

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