100 Days of Stupidity (China Trade War, Fentanyl Numbers, Gaza Occupation) | Ep410 - Look Forward - Progressive Political News

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
You know, I think I'm in the best mood coming
into the show then I've been since before the election,
in all honesty, because nothing like truly catastrophic happened since
we last recorded, and all we've gotten to see is
the fucking clown show happening for like the past week
and a half, and it's just been like it like

(00:48):
it's been depressing, obviously because like this is our government,
likes it's fucking it's fucking horrendous, but like just kind
of watching the incompetence happen in real time and watching
people that voted for him, like more and more people
every single week suffering just real, you know, realized, like
like doing the fucking Joe Bluth, like I made a

(01:10):
huge mistake, give to all this shit has been has
been you know, it's it's been getting me by. It's
been getting me by a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, no, that's fair, right, like it I agree. I
don't know that I'm in the best of moods. I
can think of an event that could happen in the
future that would put me in a great mood, but sure,
you take a guess. I don't know, it could be anything,
almost anything, But to me, you're absolutely right though, right,

(01:38):
like this idea of it has just been a clown
show week. Like that's all it's been. Every story. I'm
just like, I'm sorry, okay. And I just like I
was reading the news on my phone and my wife
was standing next to me, and I just I literally
looked at my phone. I chuckled and just threw my
head back like in exhaustion, and she was like, is

(01:58):
something wrong? Like what happened? I was just and I
just turned my phone to her and she was just like, yeah,
Like because at a certain point, like this thing is
not disastrous, it's just stupid. Like what you're doing is
just dumb. And of course he's hurting people, as you do,
uh when you're Donald Trump. But most of it this week,
at least, I think you're right, it's just been just

(02:20):
clown show optics.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, because they're taking they're taking the victory leaf, because
because we just got past the first the first hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Days, Chace right, right, right, it's yeah, so, by the way,
the greatest hundred days of any president ever, according to
the worst president ever, which says something.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's it certainly does. I don't know what that
thing is, but it certainly does say it says something. Right.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Incidentally, you know, I've been thinking about, like, and this
is not our big story, but we'll get into it
in a moment. I've been thinking about the like greatest
presidents ever thing, right, Like there's always that that list, right,
it's like Abraham Ling in FDR generally you know, like
one in two, right. I think FDR should be one.

(03:05):
But whatever, that's just me. I mean, the Japanese in
term really kind of really takes it out of him,
if I'm being honest, fair enough to history, right, But
you know, I think about that, and like Trump has
largely been like in the bottom run, right, like the
worst if not like you know, maybe above franklinom bottom

(03:26):
ten percent without it like twice because we can count
this as a separate some instance. Yeah, so Trump one
point oh and Trump two point zero should be bargain basement, right.
And you know, one of the things that I always
found about those lists irritating to me is that somehow
it couples like great things that these presidents of pass

(03:49):
presidents have done for the country and like Charisma are
also like put at the same level. Because why is
Ronald Reagan like in the top five or like top ten?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh, I think you're looking at the wrong list, buddy,
because if you look at like the lists that are
made by like actual presidential historians, like really good ones,
they all have Reagan like at best middle of the pack.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think he should be. I think he should be
at the bottom, if not in the bottom ten percent
like the And here's here's the reason I say that,
Like I discovered something this like over those week that
we were off Terence and I were having like a
back and forth, not an argument, like we were just
talking about something, and I found this thing out about

(04:37):
Ronald Reagan that made me so angry. I was I
was like, why isn't he Why isn't he he like
fifty first? Yes, I know, we haven't had fifty one present.
That's how bad he is, right, He's the fucking worst.
And so this is just a just a slight aside
from the show. I just want to make this point
when people ask why are college why is college cost

(04:58):
so high?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I need people to just take a swing back into
the mid seventies. Right, when college for a lot in
the early seventies two, college in a lot of states
was actually free, like very low cost or free. The
states would do it themselves. Ronald Reagan and his team
of scumbags didn't care for that. Right he got he

(05:23):
became governor of California, basically eliminated free college in California.
When he was elected president, one of his advisors, and
you can google this. I'm not making this up. This
is a direct quote. This is one of his advisors
said that quote, we are dangerously close to an educated proletariat.

(05:47):
That's what he fucking said. He said that. It's like,
it's unbelievable someone would say.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That out loud.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
They use that as an impetus for basically gutting any
idea of free college in most states. Right, Because when
California did it, and then Ringgan came out and was
like super pushing for that because he was kind of
becoming the leader of the party, all these other Republican
states all were like, yeah, we all hate it too. Meanwhile,
it was a bipartisan issue of like hell yeah, let's

(06:16):
have smarter fucking people in the country. When he did that,
and when they basically gutted that and then pushed up
loans right like that government loans and all these private loans.
When they did that, the amount of people that joined
or enrolled in college increased dramatically, right, because then people

(06:38):
were like, well, I'll just take out loans. I guess right,
because they're not. Every state offered free college, right to
be aware of this, So that number dramatically increased. However,
the cost of college also dramatically increased. If you had
to put a number on it, Brad, a percentage of
the college cost increase between nineteen seventy five in nineteen

(07:00):
eighty eight, what would that number be? And Brad does
not know this. I did not talk to a brat
about this that time. If you had to guess seventy
five eight eight percent, Wow, that is fucking insanely low.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, four thousand percent. Wow, that's forty times for four
thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So when people talk about Ronald Reagan was a good
he was the fucking worst.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Now, but but imagine, but so imagine doing something so transformative.
But remember that Reagan like you know how President's like, oh,
we have a mandate to this or the other. You
can argue that Reagan actually did, like Reagan won handily
against Card he had a mandate in nineteen eighty and
he fucking almost ran the table in eighty four. Yeah,

(07:52):
so you could at least make the argument that, like
the American people were picking up what he was putting down.
Maybe maybe it is the American people who were truly
the stupid ones back then or end now. And meanwhile
Trump is doing like stuff that's like ten times more
damaging with like the slimmest of election victories.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Right, yeah, no, absolutely, I just I've found that to
be fucking crazy. So here's the exact quote, by the way,
and so the proletariat quote. This is during a press
conference October twenty ninth, nineteen seventy. We are in danger
of producing an educated proletariat, says Regan advisor Roger A.

(08:30):
Freeman during a press conference. He was an economic professor
at Stanford. Quote. We have to be selective on who
we allow to go through higher education. When you ask
why are things fucked up in twenty twenty five, understand
that this shit did not start in two thousand and nine. Okay,

(08:51):
these assholes did not want people to be educated, Like
across the board in nineteen seventy, they did not want this.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Let me tell you what amazing, well I was. I
was on a call the other day and someone used
the term strategicy and like and like it was astounding theme. Like, man,
I would literally give up a limb to have that
dude back right right now. That's that's a fucking insane thought.
Yeah to think, yeah, and yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I just I like, I'm trying to do this thing
of like kind of digging back into sort of the
origins of certain topics that we see today. And yeah,
just having that back and forth conversation with Terrence about that,
I found that quote.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I was like, I mean, I mean, I think we've
established a pretty good baseline narrative on this show over
the years that like, any like really fucked up thing
that you see in modern conservatism, you can usually find
the the origin somewhere around the orbit of Ronald Reagan.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, well what was it? Uh? What was it called?
The Mandate of Leadership? That was the Project twenty twenty
five of nineteen eighty Like, same scumbags, help write that ship,
help write Project one twenty five. Basically, you know the
same ideological scumbacks. So yeah, so but he did.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But what did happen to be the president during the
fall of communism? So he I guess he gets points
for being there.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Literally literally, I just I never understood the obsession with
Regan except for people who hated him, which that obsession
makes total sense, like it's completely legitimate. But people who
love Ronald Reagan, you have no idea what the fuck
he did? You have no idea why are my kids
can afford college? Hello?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Maybe maybe that maybe that's the guy, like you know,
the thought experiment that like, hey, if you had a
time machine, you know, go, yeah, assassin Hitler, maybe after
Hitler nor Yeah, you may just take a detour on
the way back to stop uh somewhere.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, you kill you kill Ronald or you kill Adolf
Hitler and then you go to this set of Bedtime
with Bonzo and you fucking make that happen, like Jesus Christ. Yeah,
I've I just found that remarkable. And look, if you
don't believe believe the information I just told you, look
it up. You can just look it up, like I
have no problem, just look it up. That quote is

(11:09):
a direct fucking quote from that guy, and you can
look up between nineteen seventy five and nineteen eighty eight
what the rising cost was. I think it's not four
thousand percent. I'm sorry, it's three nine hundred and some
odd percent, But at that point it's fucking four thousands.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That's still an absolutely insane amount off of essentially inflationary
increase over a fifteen period.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, and a ton of people join that. We all
enrolled in college. Yeah, because they opened the door for
everyone to get there. But you can't really afford it, right, Like,
at a certain point, you're taking on these loans that
you'll be paying for until the day you die. And
now some people are leery about even taking on the
loans because they do not want that hanging over them.

(11:52):
So just in aside, I just thought I thought it
was an interesting bit of information. All right, let's get
let's get into the big topic this week, the economy.
Yay fun. I never heard an adult talk quite like this.
So we have a clip to start. Trump is doing
an interview. I forget what the woman's name, and this

(12:12):
is just a corner copia of fucking bullshit. Like the
entire the entire interview is just crazy. But let's start
off with this clip. This is on Meet the Press.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Good deal, very badly. We'll see how that all turns out,
but it's got to be a fair deal.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
When does it become the Trump economy?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Uh? It partially is right now. And I really mean this.
I think the good parts of the Trump economy and
the bad parts of the Biden economy because he's done
a terrible job. He did a terrible job on everything
from his auto pen which I'm sure he knew nothing
about some of the things he was supposedly signing.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
But sir, you acknowledge when you announced your tariffs, for example,
the stock market dropped, it's been volatile, it has since
gone up. Is do you take responsibility?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Yeah? Do you take responsibility?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
He went, Ultimately, I take responsibility for everything. But I've
only just been here for a little more than three months.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Ultimately, I take responsibility.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But but except for all the good things that are
that are happening, that's all I mean that I won
credit for. But don't blame me for the things that
are bad, because.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I love that like he talks like a fire I saw.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I saw on blue sky. Someone said, man, Republicans truly
think that their voters are the stupidest fucking people. They do.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
They do, Yeah, they do, because you would only say this,
You would only say shit like this if you believe
that these suckers would buy into it, and they do.
Like in fairness, Republican politicians absolutely know their voters. They
really do.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
By the way, just just for his context, since he
wants to brag about the stock markets going back up again.
Before the tariffs were announced, the Dow was sitting at
about forty five five thousand points at close. Today it's
sitting at about forty one thousand points. So we're still,
you know, just still a smidge off from from where

(14:10):
we were at its peak while he was the president.
And then the thing that he fucking did to make
it turn the other way has not quite recovered entirely yet.
Is it as bad as it was? No, Like it's
it's you know, it got down like the thirty eight's.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
For thirty seven and a half.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, so it certainly rebounded from that. But like to
suggest that everything's going according to plan fucking fantastic. And
and look, I gotta tell you, I am really enjoying
the other economical line of attack that he's gone with

(14:52):
here is you know, maybe your kids don't need all
these toys for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Why were they? Fuck? Yeah, there's nothing like a billionaire
telling you some fucking jump working at a regular nine
to five job, being like, your kid doesn't need those toys?
Me a golden toilet, Yeah, I definitely need that. Your
kids don't need this. Maybe maybe they don't have thirty dollars, Brad,
maybe they only have two, and maybe those two dolls

(15:20):
are a little bit more expensive. I was like, hey, screwge,
what the fuck is your problem?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Dude? What's going on here? He also like weirdly like
so he keeps saying it, and he also like added
to the other day where he's like, oh, maybe like
instead of two hundred and fifty pencils, they have five? Like,
what are you talking about? Dude?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
He has no idea about kids, none at all, not
at all. Did Baron have two hundred and fifty pencils
coming to school? What are you talking about? Yeah? Very
just a very weird argument, like about austerity, like you
and I had talked about this offline, Like I don't
even think it's austerity. As much as he just gets

(16:00):
to he has learned or been conditioned really because he
doesn't really learn anything, but he's been conditioned to just
say whatever, just shoot from the just shoot from the
hip all the time. And then the news that's that's
positive towards him, conservative news just will figure out a
way to filter it down in the most positive light

(16:21):
for him.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Like he just they've actually shifted, they've shipped attack because
because again we went from in the lead up to
the election and once he got in office, Oh, it's
gonna be the best economy ever, you're gonna be so wealthy,
You're gonna have all this money. It's gonna be fucking spectacular.
And they've immediately flipped to yeah, we like, it's it's
fine that we like everyone could use a little less money.

(16:41):
We don't. We you don't need as much money as
you have right now. You don't need to buy things
at the rate that you used to and for the
same price that you used to. It's for the it's
for the betterment of the country. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Look, it's just a little short term pain, baby, Like,
don't worry about it. What signed up for that, Like
you guys were complaining. Your entire argument during the election
was that prices are too high. Things are not affordable. Okay,
then now why are you cool? Right prices being even

(17:13):
worse and you having less money in your pocket. Well,
dear leader says it's okay, and.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
And and meanwhile, so they're also shutting down not not
on the docket, but they're so they're shutting down the
student loan forgiveness program and forcing starting this week. Uh, look,
people are gonna start paying those back. And like fucking
Charles Payne is on Fox Business like celebrating this. He's like, oh,
this is gonna be a thumb in the eye of

(17:40):
all these Yeah, that's the black dude with the crew
cut that looks like fucking Alan West, like like, you know,
thumb in the eye of all these liberal elites. And
it's just like, huh do do wealthy liberal elites need
to take out student loans? Like are those the people
that are taking out student loans?

Speaker 1 (17:58):
They say the weird shit, like just the weirdest ship, Like, bro,
these are your constituents. Well maybe not his constituents. I mean,
he's a rich asshole on like Fox Business or whatever
the fuck right, he doesn't give a ship about poor
people at all, no matter what ideological area they lean
in but it it's just it's just curious to watch

(18:20):
a bunch of rich people go on television to tell
poor people that they need to tighten up and fucking
you know, tighten up those bootstraps and fucking.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Act like it's fucking like they're like they're What they're
trying to do is they're trying to like inspire the
same spirit that America had during World War Two when
when it was like the national effort, Like, but bro,
this ain't that. Ain't this ain't it like you got
you guys are fighting an enemy that is a perceived
enemy to you. Like I personally, I love all these

(18:49):
fucking goods that are coming from China that we can buy. Yeah,
like yeah, yeah, I mean, by the way, and by
the way, the only reason that all this is in
China is because you fucking wealthy pieces of ship outsourced
all that labor. Correct you you allowed this to happen.
I didn't do that. I didn't cause this. You fucked it.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Up, right, And and here's the thing, they don't actually
care either, like that that that's the irony of it,
that's correct, Like that they are bullshitting everyone to pretend like,
oh no, we super care about this thing, really angry
about it. But they don't actually give a fuck about
this either. They would be more than fine with leaving
the world as it is and benefiting and financially gain

(19:34):
You think, what is it? Uh? Lutnick came out and
said that the future of America is that you work
in a factory and your kids work in a factory,
and your grandkids work in a factory. Bitch, who the
fuck are you talking to America?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
This is this is the same I don't know if
it happened the same week, but the story came like
surface around the same time that he made went on
TV inside that Uh, he basically installed his twenty eight
and twenty seven year old sons to be the CEO
co CEO of the hedge fund that he ran.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's because.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know, it's not it's not his kids that are
going to be working at the factory. It's your kids
that are gonna be working at the factory.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Right, And it's it's the classic thing rich people do. Hey,
don't go to college. Don't go to college. Everybody college
is a scam or not even rich people conserv very conservative.
Rich people don't go to college. College is a scam. No,
don't do that. No, which one is you know you want?
You know, the regular menial jobs. Those are real, real
real men jobs, right, like these are real American jobs.

(20:40):
Oh my kids, Oh my kid's going to fucking Harvard.
I don't have to fuck your kids working for my kid. Like,
I will never understand why, especially young people like young
especially young conservatives. By the way, why do you believe them?
They don't send their kids to fucking trade school, dude,

(21:00):
They send their kids to the fucking elite of the
elite colleges. As much as Donald Trump and all these
guys will shit on every college and tell you it's
all bad. You think Baron is going to fucking local
community college, You think he's gonna be probably you think
he's gonna be fucking turning wrenches at a fucking mechanic shop. No,
not that there's anything wrong with doing that, But when

(21:21):
you lie to a generation and tell them the college
is bullshit and it's a scam, but you all, you
motherfuckers went there. I remember listening to Ted Cruzer, like, YO,
college is a real problem, bitch. You went to like
Princeton or Yale. You went to Yale law. Dude, you've
you've done cases in front of the Supreme Court. You
didn't get there by fucking like working at the local

(21:41):
pick and save and just getting you know, promoted. That's
not how it worked. But you lie to those people
to your point. They must think they have the dumbest
constituents on planet Earth, because they do, because they do.
And like, I'm not trying to be an asshole, but like, bro,
you're proving it. Like you're proving it.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I mean, you say you're trying out to be an asshole,
but it's like, look, I'm just calling balls and strike
scare I don't get.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And by the way, that's not to say that's not
to say college is the only way for everybody, or
that those jobs don't mean anything. What I'm talking about
is a wholesale effort to get those people out of
their kids' way so that those kids can be at
the top of the fucking foucine. That's the reason they
tell you that, right, Like, like they don't want to
have their mediocre, fucking piece of shit conservative kids having

(22:27):
to go up against some fucking super smart kid from
India or from ye part of the.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Stage speaking or ei. By the way, I'm pretty I'm
pretty sure LETNX twenty something year old kids were definitely
the most qualified people to be putting in charge of
his fucking billion dollar company.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, like who else could he have possibly picked? They
were right there, So yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's just the meritocracy in full effects.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's nothing like the American led meritocracy.
Let's go back to the year that that ever existed.
Oh right, it never did. White people are still pissed
off that they let black people into baseball, okay, like
get the fuck out of here. God damn it, we
should have never done it. Yeah, and now Latin folks

(23:14):
are in there dominating to get out of here. Good
for them. So I don't watch baseball. Maybe that's still true.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I think there's a couple of Japanese dudes are like
really good now, so.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
There are I mean, I mean a Japanese player is
literally the probably the best baseball player of all time
right now.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
So like right, yeah, he's like isn't he like the
highest paid too? Like oh yeah yeah, and he takes
a shut out of everybody. Yeah good, yeah, look, fuck meritocras.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dude, dude, he fucking he pitches at like a Cy
Young level and and also hits like fifty home runs
a year and plays the outfit Jesus crazy. All right,
he's insane?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Japanese show?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay? I I dare to pretend to be shocked. They're
really good at a lot of things. Guys like they
just thought, Okay, it's just the fact that's not racism,
it's positive racism. Really, It's what I'm leaning on, Brad.
Should the president uphold the Constitution? The answer might surprise you.

(24:14):
Let's go to the fucking videotape of this moron again
on Meet the Press.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Secretary of State says, everyone who's here, citizens and non citizens,
deserve due process.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Do you agree, mister?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I don't know. I'm not I'm not a lawyer. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well, the Fifth Amendment set I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
It seems it seems it might say that. But if
you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a
million or two million, or three million trials. We have
thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug
dealers and some of the worst people on earth. But
it is some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth,
and I was elected to get them the hell out
of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
But even given those numbers that you're talking about, don't
you need to uphold the Constitution of the United States
as p I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I have to respond by saying again, I have brilliant
lawyers that work for me, and they are going to
obviously follow what the Supreme Court said. What you said
is not what I heard. The Supreme Court said they
have a different interpretation.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Is anyone in your administration not now in contact with
El Salvador about returning a brigover.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
SAT I don't know. You'd have to ask the Attorney
General that.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, I'm going to read something before you give a response. Okay,
A lot of people have not heard this, so I
just want to. I want to read this quote. It's
a very it's a it's an obscure quote. I do
solemnly swear to I do solemnly swear or firm that
I will faithfully execute the office of the President of
the United States, and will do my best of my

(25:49):
abilities preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.
It's a weird oath people say that, like every president
takes in it's like, what are we doing we do?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Maybe maybe he forgot that he took me of maybe
maybe brain And he's like, look, that was three months ago,
Like how do you expect me to remember? What was it?
Like person, dog cat TV or whatever?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
The fuck?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Like that whole about that. He knows, Daddy knows he
can fucking knock that ship out of the park every time,
But for serving uphold the Constitution of the United States,
I need to talk to him that one.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
How am I supposed to notice it?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's it's literally as if it's your only job.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, it quite literally follow the Constitution. Like I get it.
Like when you do that, Like there's a lot of
things that happened, but like that's the true live ship,
Like a.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Lot of things you got to do that you don't
really want to do that testy constitution, so many amendments.
How's how's one to remember all of these things?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Dude? Did you see do you see that clip where
they asked him like, what does the Declaration of Independence
mean to you? And he was like, it's a beautiful document.
It's about coming together. The Declaration of Independence is about coming. Okay,
that's not what that document means. I'm not sure you
understand what the title of the document means, let alone

(27:20):
what the fuck is in it. And it was so
funny because the I forget the dude who was interview
and was like he was standing and Trump is sitting
and he's sayings and you see his face.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
He's like, oh, that was that was a that was
a Republican congressman.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
That was That wasn't the yet He's just like, holy shit, wow, dude,
this guy is dumber than we said.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I'm i am. I am really enjoying all the Republicans
now going on all the on the all the interview
shows being asked now about this quote directly that are
just like, no, I don't see a problem with him,
uh wondering whether or not he needs to uphold the Constitution,
Like holy shit, man, like this is it's just what

(28:00):
you think that like, you couldn't possibly plumb new depths
of thetheticism with the current Republicans that are in that
are in politics today, Trump just keeps serving him up
like fucking fucking curve balls. Man.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
They just they just keep whipping costant like to to
paraphrase Roger Ebert the Laker, Roger Ebert, there is no
bottom to that barrel. Okay, Like there just isn't, dude,
Like there isn't. Every week You're like, he's surely he
couldn't say anything more absurd or sanctemonious or just disgusting.

(28:40):
Then he said last week, step aside, Butcher, he's got
a new one, Like, it's just you don't know if
you have to uphold the constitution, and his argument is weird, Oh,
like we would have to have two millions, three million trips.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Can you can you imagine having all these trials? Yeah, dude, Yeah,
that's kind of that's kind of why the whole fucking
mcgilla here, that's kind of the whole purpose. Maybe knowing
that you have a burden of proof that you have
to establish, maybe we don't support people willy nilly and
just you know, round up people on the streets, and

(29:16):
maybe we only go after the people who actually need
to be removed from the country, right, and there are
because they're actually a danger to society being here. Right.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's funny that he never has the thought process that
things have not happened before him, because they just didn't
have these genius ideas. No, I'm sure there are conservative
presidents who are like, yeah, we need to like lessen
the amount of you know, illegal crossings or illegal immigrants
in the country. Hey, I'm gonna go talk to my

(29:46):
DJ and you know, and you know, my legal advisors,
and they're like, yeah, bro, you'd have to do like
eleven million trials and it would be arduous and insane,
and it would clog the court systems and nothing else
would get done, and it would be it would grind
the entire country to a halt. And then it would
be like, I think we should figure out a different method.

(30:09):
That's why they don't do that. It's not because you're
the first person to think, hey, we should kick out
a bunch of people. It's just that people have thought
about this, and like, logistically it doesn't make sense because
even though they were pieces of shit, they still understood
that people deserve due process. And and I love this, like, well,
we're just deporting alone. We're doing so much illegal shit,
we couldn't possibly do it legally. It's his argument. That's

(30:29):
not a very good argument, Like it's it's a pretty
bad argument. So yeah, oh, what do you expect me
to do your job.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Your fucking job. I mean, but again, like this is
what happens when you literally like the most unscrupulous person
perhaps in human history, to be the leader of your
fucking country like like that, I mean, like this is
what you're getting. And I guess to some extent, like
a lot of his voters like this is this is
what they want, like like they've said before, like they
wanted to come in and just fucking act like an

(30:58):
autocrat for lack of a better for lack of a
better term. The problem that is that just doesn't jive
with you know, the whole America thing.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And yeah, like if you don't if you want a
lawless country where or not a lawless country, but you
want a country where the leader just ignores the laws.
It just does whatever he wants. Who to fucking Russia, dude,
Like just move there. They just do whatever the fuck
they want. They don't care because it is a kryptocracy, right,
Like I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Tucker, Tucker Carlson tells us hungry is amazing. You can
go there, and you know.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Dude, I will buy you a first class fucking ticket
one way, my man, you never have to come back
you never have to come back happy to pay your way. Look,
I think first class is probably really expensive and really
overrated as far as my financial situation, I will scrape
the dollars together to get you the fuck out of here, Like,
just go, just go. If it's so great, get the

(31:52):
fuck out of here. You don't need to you don't
need to stay. Like I'm not saying like I don't
live in the US anymore. Where I live, I don't
thing it's like the greatest place on earth. I like
a lot of the things there I like. You know,
I'm not gonna pretend that there are things I don't
love about this place versus things about America I don't like,
and vice versa. There are things about America I like more.

(32:13):
But if I was like, this is the greatest place ever,
but then I just also stayed in America and then
just shit on America every day, that seems very silly
to me. Like it is like, there are plenty of
things America does great. Arresting these type of pieces of
shit would be an awesome way to start. So I
don't know if I should uphold the Constitution. Yeah, bro,

(32:35):
you have just shown how deeply unqualified you are for
that job. That's what you just told me. Like anybody
who would argue anything else about Trump, just that clip
alone should be enough to be Like, now I get
out of here.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I mean, I get the feeling that clip is probably
gonna see some serious play. But then I say that
knowing that he's going to say something even stupider and
more black and more like over the top it within
like the next two weeks, so we're gonna forget all
about this. And again that that is the problem with
the Steve Bannon, you know, flood the zone with shit
strategy is that there's so much like like it's literally
impossible to give each statement the true ground, like like

(33:13):
like if you had, again, not just a democratic president,
if you had literally any other president in the history
of this country, get up here and say I don't
know if I need to uphold the constitution, that person
would not be the president anymore.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now they pack you to fuck up, like get out
of here. You know, it's like, man, you gotta go.
Like if that is your argument you don't know, I
don't know what my job is, then you don't get
to have that job.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
But with Trump, you could argue that that wasn't the
stupidest thing that he said in this interview, much less
like in the history of ever.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
No, they're like, sadly, it's not like sadly, it's not
by the way, I can prove that with our next club,
because somehow this is even fucking dumber.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
So here you're talking about this transition cost. How long
should people expect that transition to last?

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Mister President, I can't tell you that. I can tell
you that we're making a lot of money. We're doing
great again. We're losing more than five billion dollars a day.
Five billion dollars a day. You don't talk about that,
and right now we're going to be at a point
very soon where we're making money every day.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Look how soon.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
We were losing hundreds of billions of dollars with China.
Now we're essentially not doing business with China. Therefore we're
saving hundreds of billions of dollars. Very simple.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
You take me to my next quest.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That doesn't make any sense at all. That's not how
that's not how anything works.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Does he think that American companies were just like putting
a bunch of money in a sack, yes, and like
porting it to China, and then China built like the
money Tower, like the Joker did in the dark night,
and like lit the bitch on fire, like is like
is that what he thinks? Was fucking having Italian?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like what the like? Bro, we were buying things.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
That Brad I need. Look, if we're gonna make it
through these four years, I'm gonna need you to knock
off using logic because it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
I mean, that is an unbelievably stupid statement. We used
to spend hundreds of billions of dollars, you know, spending

(35:40):
hundreds of billions of dollars in China. We're not now,
So we're making hundreds of billions.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yes, we're saving the money, and it's staying in America,
not going to American companies that aren't making the things
that they make in China, right like, also not going
to American companies who purchase the goods that they sell
from China, because nobody's buying anything from China. Instead, all
of the containers are sitting in China waiting, hoping, praying

(36:12):
that this ridiculous tariff UH at least comes down significantly,
if not gets eliminated altogether. And again, like I talked
about last episode, we have not yet.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Seen the full effects of of of of.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
The of this Chinese traff yet we're still in the
early stages. Yeah, because it's.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
It's like it's what an eight week lead out, like eight.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
To twelve, like like depending on how depending on how
fast you can get booked on a container, and depending
on the traffic and report. Obviously like at the port,
there's nothing going on right now. But so that that
that part is not a problem. But like we haven't
to referencening the Jason earlier, we haven't seen the ripple
effects yet of slowing down UH commerce coming or from China.

(37:00):
And meanwhile, you're not hurting China because China's like, oh,
America is not gonna buy this shit. Let's start swinging
deals with other countries. And here's the other problem, like
stuff that China was buying from us that they're just like,
all right, we're gonna go get soybeans from Brazil. Now,
we're gonna go get this from here and this from there.
Even if you drop the tariff, it's not like all

(37:22):
of that business is coming back. They're making agreements now
that they're gonna that they're going to adhere to ye.
And so even if you get the imports coming back in,
you're still not gonna have the exports going back out,
which means that all this beautiful money that we're supposedly
saving right now is gonna get turned around and bundled

(37:42):
together into bailout packages for farmers in the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh, I disagree. I disagree, And I understand why you
believe you what you're saying, and I feel like that
should be true. But I don't think you're getting those
bail ups. And I'll tell you why, because these pieces
of shit in the White House, they cannot wait for

(38:09):
those farms to go under. So all these corporations that
they're buddy with will fucking scoop them up. That's what
they're waiting on, dude. They like, you're not getting them
farm subsidies, baby, or like you're not getting nearly to
the degree we used to subsidize farms. Like they may
try to keep them afloat a little bit, so keep
them like a little tamped down so they're not screaming
the whole time, but like once your farm's gone, dude,

(38:31):
like what's screaming? Like this shit that party is over,
like it's just done. Like you are a part of
the silent majority that they have steamrolled over. So I
think it if there are farm subsidies coming, when these
guys really suffer, probably within the next what do we
what are we three four weeks since this shit started?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Oh no, it's been like two months, if you can
believe it.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Oh okay, it's been it's been two months. So within
the next like four weeks, I think think they're in
a world of trouble. But I think those subsidies are
gonna need to be very low or non existent.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Oh no, I'm sorry. It's been a month. Liberation Day,
qute unquote was on April. Oh yeah, liberation it's been
a month. Yeah, where he's liberally where he liberated Americans
from fucking from money, money right exactly, liberated American businesses
from success.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
So okay, so that's a four So that's a four
week window. But you're you're saying, what eight to twelve
weeks or.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Twelve to three, eight to twelve, generally eight to twelve, So.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
You've got you've got a little bit more time before this,
you know, you got like two more months until this
really hits the fucking fan. And when it does, the
problem is people aren't going to remember Liberation Day mm hmmm.
They're just gonna be like, Yo, what the fuck is
going on? Why is there nothing on the shelves?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I like I was gonna say, I severely hope that
he maybe makes a decision on the TikTok ban before
the empty shelve tiktoks become a fucking trend that are
going on around the country. Might be to his benefit
to make sure that that's it gets knocked out.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Oh hard, here's me, here's me dancing in front of
the Walmart shells that are fucking empty.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Check it out, like the fuck You're fucked.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
You're fucked, because once the shelves are empty, there is
no denial. There is no denial. Now you can deny
it on Fox News. You can deny it on Oh
and look, we pushed all the shit to the front
of the shelf, right Like you can do all that bullshit.
You can try to trickle trickle down that bullshit to
Americans from those perspectives. But Americans are still gonna go

(40:31):
to those stores and they're gonna be like, what the
fuck is going on? Because Americans are not used to
seeing empty shelves.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
We are a country of abundance. There is too many
things like they got, you know, like the bin of
DVDs at Walmart is overflowing with shitty five dollars movies,
right like they are used to abundance. But when that
shit starts dwindling over these next couple of weeks, and
when you hit that fucking twelve week mark and it's like,
oh damn, like what's going on? You are going to

(41:02):
that like his numbers, like his you know, his popularity
numbers are dwindling quite quickly. They are going to rock
bottom when people cannot buy shit.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
But here's the but here's the problem. If you don't
have a Congress that's willing to defy him, what what
difference does it make? Because Donald Trump's not running for
election again. The one thing that he did say, isn't
he not say this? I will say this one thing
that did that he did say during this interview because

(41:33):
because Garson Welker asked him about the whole twenty twenty
eight run for a third term thing, which again I
don't know why the media treats that like it's a
viable thing. But whatever, And he did say, look like
you know a lot of people like they made the
hats or whatever, and you know, I understand why they want,
but that's not something I'm interested in doing. Like like
I know again, I he's getting everything he wants now,

(41:57):
Like what like what is him running for another term?
Gonna really try or try to run for another term?
Gonna do for him? It's his power?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well what is what is he what is the must
gain from having two hundred billion dollars and getting fifty
billion more? Elon Musk is fifty five years old, though,
like like Donald Trump, like he's getting the benefits of
the corrupt presidency right now, and and we're three months in,
Like he's still got three years to fucking builk this
shit and by the time he gets to the end

(42:26):
of it, he's gonna be like fucking eighty two.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
He doesn't want to fucking do this shitting or four years.
He wants to fucking make like be a crup piece
of shit, make all his fucking money, which he's doing.
Like you know, we're not gonna talk about the crypto
thing this week, but you know ossensibly like.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Two billion dollars, dude, two billion dollars of crypto from
a fucking foreign country. All right, whatever, Yeah, go to jail,
Go to jail, Just go to jail. It's insane. It's insane.
That story is fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Look, I mean, look, you're not incorrect, right, Like, you're
gonna be eighty two years old? What the fuck? Like,
what are you gonna do? There's a there's a power
thought process, but there's also one other one. It's protection.
It's protection, it's it is highly beneficial for him. He

(43:16):
don't get a fuck nobody else. Don't get that, don't
get it fucking twisted. He doesn't care. But it is
highly beneficial for him to be protected under the presidency
until the day he dies. Yes, it is beneficial to.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Jay, hope. But Jay, the day he dies, with any luck,
will be like next week.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, no, I know, ainger cross.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
That's what we're all come on. Cholesterol and heart disease.
Where are you geez?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Heart disease?

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Jay?

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Or you are we talking about the same president? Are
we talking about the same uh six three and thirty
nine pound specimen that is that is currently occupied the
Oval Office?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Oh my god, he he could he's ready for the
combine after he gets done with the president going first round. Yeah, look,
I just I think I think it's power, and I
also think it's protection. I think that's that is his
biggest thing, and I think that would keep him trying
to run, to try to hold on the power, just
to keep the wolves from the door. Because look, I

(44:16):
don't know if Democrats got the balls to do it,
But if you don't call me I got the balls
to do it, I'd be like, pack all you motherfuckers
up into paddy wagon. You're all going to prison.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
All of you.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
I'm not I'm not even remotely interested in that. Like,
let's look forward and not look back. I'm like, no,
turn the fuck around, deal.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
With these I mean, I mean for me, that's gonna
be a fucking requirement of anyone that I'm not.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, I'm not even remotely interested in. Like, well, the
country is really suffering. We got we can deal with that.
But I need you to take I need you to
buy for kate your mind for a second, concentrate on
putting the country back together and ripping these fucking pieces
of ship's assholes off on national talent. That's what I
want trials. The whole fuckingho was just doing my job. Well, welcome,

(45:05):
you don't even like doing that? Is the president, just
make sure you getturn an attorney general there. That's gonna
be like, yeah, I'm gonna make sure that everybody, and
I do mean everybody in this country follow you know,
is subject to.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
The rule of law. You know what I mean by that? Like,
that's that's That's what I'm looking for there. Congress isn't.
Congress doesn't have power to hold those fuckers to account
except for maybe doing like subcommittees and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But no, but there's people now, but there are people.
There's people in Congress doing illegal ship too. Oh I'm
looking into trading on Marjorie jail hold nine yards baby,
Like everybody, Oh that's petty good, Welcome, Welcome to Pettyville, motherfucker.
That's what's happening now, Like that's but you didn't do
Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, guess what, I don't care. You're going
to fuck you. Yeah, Like whoever begins to be president

(45:57):
under a Democrat, your job is to pick absolute as
brutal of a fucking asshole as you can pick for
attorney general. They're like take the fucking gloves off, like
this is my only directive, and now I'm gonna go
do the oath goodbye, like I don't want I don't
want to see you for fucking four years. It's like,
just take the gloves off. That's it, Like, oh, should

(46:19):
he do? Look? I just hired this person. I don't
know what they were doing. I look, there is a
wall between us. Did I say murder them before I
last time I saw them? Yes, maybe, but that's not
so Yeah, No, just take the fucking gloves off, all right.
So yeah, apparently we're saving hundreds of billions of dollars
by not dealing with China, because that's how economies work. Sure,

(46:44):
so yeah, countdown to two months when everybody starts freaking
out because the economy is in the toilet worse than
it already is.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Meanwhile, xboxes are six hundred dollars right now, so.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Thiks, congratulations getting up to those the station three prices.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
All right, let's take a quick break and then we're
gonna come right back and get into new you need
all right, next up, just quickly, not that quickly. Israeli
government goes all in on on occupation so they decided Benjamintania,

(47:23):
who says Israel's plan to seize all of Gaza and
hold it indefinitely will be intensive. So this is the plan.
They're just going to occupy all of the Gaza.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Struck of course once once, once you got the guy
in America who told you to finish the job, what
did you expect the plan to be?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Uh? So, hey, guys, all of you who were screaming
at I saw a woman screaming at AOC uh at
at an event, like for a war criminal. I like,
do you where are you? Do you? Are you here
right now?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
What the fuck are you talking about? AOC is a
war criminal? Like what? At what point has she been
cool with any of this shit? But again, people on
the extreme left have a real tendency to not actually
be paying attention to what's going on and just sort
of moralizing, which is very like, I get it, but
you're being an idiot, like you, look, I understand your fire,

(48:23):
like I do understand your.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
One might even say a useful idiot in some in
some contexts.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, a fucking useful idiot is what I would say.
But but if you believe that these people are war
criminals and they're doing horrible things and you need to
speak out about it no matter what. Why do you
focus on the people who will do nothing to you?
Why don't you put in fact where your mouth is

(48:50):
and go up against the people doing the terrible thing?
You fucking coward like you're a coward? Like what the fuck? Man?
You're a corall.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I mean, that's that's what it boils down to. Is
they just you know, it's people that just like the
bitch and to maintain some level of moral superiority. Well,
you know, I didn't vote for Kamala Harris either because
she didn't commit to ceasefire. That bump up a dah.
Okay cool. So you let the other guy who is
antagonistic towards Gaza, who talked whose son in law talked about,
oh look at all the beautiful waterfront property that we

(49:20):
could develop in Gaza. That that that's the dude that
you allowed in because of your moral you know, stance,
your your your piousnes against the evil the evil Democrats
who were willing to give us half a loaf on
this issue instead of the no loaf that the Republicans
gave us.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
So it's always better to get absolutely nothing you want
versus getting half of what you want, Like, what the
logic is that? Oh my god. By the way, yes,
Kamala Harris actually was like, yeah, I have four seasfire.
They're like, we don't believe you.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Are you because you were the vice president for Joe Biden,
right and doesn't want to cease fire?

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Like, as we all know, vice presidents are the ones
you really run the show.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
What yeah, if you, if you, if you want to
see how valuable the vice presidency is, go check out
Fox's uh listed accomplishments for JD Vans during the first
hundred days. It's it's a hum dinger of uh. Let
me tell you no.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Couch was.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Gave a gave a stirring speech in Germany. It was
one of the four things that they threw up on
the screen to talk about. Yeah, the one where he
was like all right, yeah, the pro a f D speech. Okay, cool,
good job everybody. Those are Those were on one of
his four highlights during the first hundred days.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, okay, Jesus, that entire party slash network is just
utterly Yeah. So they're going full on, full on occupation.
Look a lot more people canna get killed like that.
That's just that's just the reality.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Sure, and and and and after the nun with Causa,
they'll be like, man, that works, so well, how about
we head over to the West Bank and see what's
up over there. Yep, guaranteed. Oh there's no over there
that's not gonna stop us.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Are they brown er than us?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
They could they could be himas we don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
It's better. It's better to bomb and ask questions later.
I mean, if we're so, yeah, I really need I
really need people to understand a fundamental truth about this
whole Israeli Gaza thing. Jews don't equal Benjamin Netna, who
in the right wing government of Israel, Like I see

(51:34):
so much anti Semitism, Like, yeah, these people are pieces
of ship, not the Jewish guy who lives down the
street from you or who's on Instagram, you fucking asshole.
Like now if they say, hey, I support everything that's
happening over there and funck the Palestinians, Okay, well god bless,
I'm not saying say anti Semitic shit, but I'm like,
you want to say, fuck that guy, fuck that guy,
Like okay, that's fair, but like, come on, man, like,

(51:56):
we gotta we gotta grow up, Like this ship is
just nonsensical to me. It's just unbelievable. And you know,
as an aside, fuck Benjamin Nanna who and the right
wing government of Israel period, Like, I mean, it's just
really disgusting behavior. I love this next story.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Please, but it was really fun. It was it was
a fun It was a fun time last week.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
So I was hoping it was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
I was too, But it's just it's just funny to
watch the speed and immediacy to which the White House
reacted to this. So Punchbowl News dropped a single sourced
story last week saying that Amazon was going to start
adding tariffies uh to their checkout screen right in the

(52:42):
wake of raising prices thanks to Trump's tariffs.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Literally within hours of this story being published, Trump's Press
secretary Karen Love It came out and was fucking dragging Amazon,
saying this is a hot and political act and it's
not a surprise because they're partnered with Chinese propaganda and
this is fucking bullshit and fuck Amazon, They're huge pieces

(53:11):
of ship. And then, literally within hours of that happening,
Jeff Bezos comes out to grovel, being like, this isn't true.
This was never true, This was never gonna happen. This
was a rogue like thing from Amazon's like TEAMU arm
of of you know, their their team thing. Yeah, no,

(53:31):
they have like a team competitor essentially that does the
same thing TIMU does where they're where they drop ship
stuff directly from China at absurdly low prices. And and
Jeff bes like, no, no, I swear, mister Trump, this
wasn't me. Uh, this wasn't this wasn't us. And of
course assume as he groveled the White House like oh okay, cool, yeah,
Jeff Bezos, Uh he's a good guy. We never we

(53:52):
never thought. But just like I said, how how how quickly? Uh,
they were going to throw Amazon in the bus. Now
to your point, as as you've said many times, I
don't understand why the White House would have seen this
as a problem because tariffs were supposed to be good, remember,
and you know it shouldn't be a problem to see
how they impact your daily lives. And I also thought

(54:12):
it was really funny that Jeff Bezos, who took a
stand a couple of weeks ago and said, Hey, the
only thing we're going to talk about in the Washington
Post editorial from now on is is free markets and
personal like personal independence or whatever that is. And he
immediately count out in the wake, just just just a

(54:32):
whiff of disappointment from his from his new daddy, Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
This is a this is a wild story, right, because
it's like it's a lot in a lot of ways.
But the question that was asked to the Press secretary
was really interesting, right because it was like, hey, have
you heard about this story and the punchbowl news story?
Hey have you heard about this? Doesn't this prove that
it is the American consumer that hays the tariff and

(55:01):
not China. And immediately she goes into what you were
saying of like this is political, this is aggressive or whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Amazon is basically owned by the Chinese government.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Okay, But she never addresses the point, right because yeah,
of course, And I'm like, ah, it's a missed opportunity.
It's it's not the journalists fault, because she just pivots
and the fucking goes off in her stupid ship. She's
one of the worst pres secretaries I've ever seen, by
the way, just awful awful, right, and Sean Spicer exists. Okay,

(55:36):
that's how bad she is. Never forget that man hated
Dippin' dots. He swears it's not ice cream. You can
google it. It's really weird. He has tweeted about it
multiple times.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
I mean, I mean it's I guess it's technically not,
but I also don't really hold a firm opinion about it.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
The other dude, like he's like, dipp okay, all right, Sean, Okay, Sean,
put the buddy weird enough. I don't know what a
dippin' dots is. It's not very good, by the way,
But anyway, like if they if they could put that

(56:14):
on there, And by the way, if you're another company,
you should do this.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Some companies are you should? There are some some companies absolutely.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Ah, you should, because like you don't get to charge us,
like I'm speaking as like a business. You don't get
to charge us extra money and then we get blamed
for the cost. No, like, look, we're gonna pass the
money down to our customers anyway, right, because like fuck that,
we ain't gonna pay it. But they should know what

(56:45):
the problem is. But I love that their response is
this is hostile. This is political. No, you made this hostile.
You made this political. Things were fine. You did this,
and now people are annoyed by it. Why mad at them? Bro?
You did it? Like you're the ones who started this shit.
If everything is supposed to be hunky dory and if

(57:06):
terfce's supposed to work out, great, you shouldn't have any
problems with them. But you want them to lie. You
want them to take on the cost, pass it on
to their consumers, and then lie to them like, no, no,
I'm not gonna do that. Automakers like, you're gonna notice
when the price of a car goes up significantly, You're

(57:26):
gonna notice that. Why should Ford or you know, BMW
or Mercedes be like, oh, yeah, no, we just raised
the prices. We're the pieces of shit. No we're not,
we're doing this now. Yeah, we're the pieces of shit
because we're eating the costs or passed the cost to you.
But you would expect that it's a business, right, Like
you're not expecting them to run at zero profits. But

(57:47):
you should be able to say, hey, this is why
the price is increasing because that fucking guy up there
did it. And the fact that they don't want that
information out there tells you just how bad it's going
to be. And they know that it doesn't work, because
you wouldn't have attacked him and said this if you
if you thought, oh well, it's it's not true.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
I say this all the time. If Republicans are so
right about everything, why do they lie? Why do you
have to lie if you're so correct, What is the
purpose of lying? If you are so correct about terrors,
why do you need to attack them for showing these
price differences?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Save that ship with your chest, as we say it
all the time.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
And they don't. They don't. They They love taking that
blame and just being like the buck stops way over there,
like they don't want to deal with it. It's like,
mel motherfucker, deal with it, that's your policy. But they
never do. All right, next up, let's do this, take it,
take it down law, and then we're gonna take a break.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, this will This will be a really quick one.
I just wanted to bring it up because just kind
of put a pin in this so a ball our bill,
I should say, past Congress almost unanimously in both houses,
which is again a remarkable thing to see nowadays. Like
literally four nine to two was the vote in the
House for this law called to Take It Down Act,
And basically what it is is a law that requires

(59:14):
social media companies to take down content that is flagged
as non consensual sexual images, including AI generated content. So like,
if if someone like makes a deep fake you know
about you and post it online, then social media companies,
as long as it gets flagged, social media companies will
be required to take down. On the surface, this sounds

(59:35):
like a completely logical and reasonable and welcome thing that
we should all want. Just keep an eye out for
what certain groups may do with this law and what
groups will will flag and try to get taken down
using this law as their backstop.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Yeah, I have I have a feeling that anything that
is critical of Trump, critical of the right, if it
is an image, they will oh no, no, take it down,
take it down. They'll just bum rush the ship. And
then the social media companies, in their infinite wisdom, will
set this up to be automated and and they will
take advantage of it. That's that is exactly what will happen,

(01:00:18):
because they're not gonna have somebody go okay, no, this
is not a real thing. Okay, this is bullshit. No,
they're gonna fucking use AI and be like, hey, if
this thing gets kicked into so many take it down requests,
pull it and we'll look at it later or whatever.
That's what that's what will happen. And right wing trolls
they just build troll farms and that's what they'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
So just just kind of put a pin in that
one look out for that as this as this log
gets signed and and and put into practice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
It this is just social media websites.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
That that's what the bill says. But I wouldn't be
surprised if I wouldn't be surprised with this. If the
scope gets expanded somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
So okay, I think it should, but not in the
way that this is written, right, because this is too
broad like that this is this is a problem Like
writing laws is an art form, right, because you've got
to be able to make it broad enough that it
hits the thing you want, but narrow enough that it
doesn't end up being like, let's just take down any
post on the internet, right, Like, so you have to
figure out how to do this. But if you're trying

(01:01:22):
to knock down like sexually explicit things that are not authorized,
like one of the big things online.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I remember hearing a reporter on this. It was really
fucking sad. Is that like somebody will have like a
young girl will have images of herself on I don't
like Flicker or some shit like that, or like in
one of the like image box or something like that that's
like private, and then someone will break into it and
take and they're not even like pornographic images, just like

(01:01:51):
her in a bikini or something like that, and they'll
take those images and they upload them onto like a
porn site or anything like that. And you know, girls
like eighteen twenty years old and that shit is just
on porn sites forever, right, And I think there should
be a mechanism because like if you try to take
them down, like it's almost impossible, right, like to request

(01:02:13):
good luck, right, Like they're like the major sites you
could go after and be like, hey, this is not
fucking cool, and they don't want to get sued, right,
like you're your porn hubs and shit like that, Like
they would take the shit down, But like any of
those other sites that are just run by a bunch
of like I assume Skivie fucking dudes in a basements,
I'm fuckingwear good luck getting those things taken down. So, like,

(01:02:34):
I can understand the reason for a law like this,
and I can understand an expansion of that law to
leave social media and go wider, but I don't know
because of the way the internet is making a law
like this in the US, well, there's plenty of sites
that are run outside of the US, Like, I don't know,

(01:02:55):
I don't know if there's a level of effectiveness because
there's not a there's not a sort of global Internet
police kind of there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
There isn't. But but my again, my my concern for
this just stems from the fact that I don't trust
any conservative group to not take a mile when given
an inch, especially especially when something only this requires people
to act in good faith, and you know, people have
proven on the right time and time again to not
acting good faith. So to your point, like, I think

(01:03:25):
you're gonna see this try to be exploited to take
down ship that they don't like or or shut stuff
that's critical of of you know, their leaders and stuff
like that. And it's it's a I'm not going to
go as far to say it like it's a Pandora's box.
But I think we're starting to kind of creak the
door open on selective censorship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Let's say, yeah, no, I don't think that's incorrect. It'll
be interesting to see how this goes. I have a feeling,
like I said, and to echo what you're saying. The
right will use it like that. And again, the worst
thing social media companies can do is to automate the
response to it. That's a terrible choice, by the way,
and if that happens on like a YouTube or something

(01:04:08):
like that, that is going to be disastrous. You cannot
automate this, even though it should be likely to be
a pain in the ass. By the way, it also like,
if you're going to automate any of this, it shouldn't
be the automatic takedown. You should be watching how quickly
these takedowns come on, and are these from bot farms,
because that is actually a thing that would be worth tracking,

(01:04:31):
and then start banning those accounts. But they don't ever
do that because Mark Zuckerberg, who is desperate to seem
cool and hip, you're not, okay, I just want to
point that out, and never will be and you never
fucking will be in his infinite wisdom was like, I'm
no longer We're no longer censoring anything on Facebook because

(01:04:52):
conservatives basically destroyed that app. They destroyed it by just
flooding the zone with complaints and everything else. Why can't
I just put up me doing a Nazi salute and
a Hitler mustache. It's unfair to me, right, And it's like, Okay,
they're a private company, they're allowed to not do that.
And then they got bullied, and then you know, somebody

(01:05:12):
told Mark Zuckerberg about what a red pill is, and
then his stupid ass took one and he's become a
fucking moron. And so now he's on this ship like
the idea of nothing ever needs to be censored. Everything
is open, don't worry about it. It'll all be totally fine.
Doesn't even purport with normal life, Like it just doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I you know what, though, I wouldn't, but it's it's
about it. If it wasn't, if it wasn't for the
level of influence that Facebook has, especially over a specific
subset of people in this country, because because normally like
that's something like that, the free market is really good
at handling. Actually, like if you turn your app into

(01:05:54):
a fucking access bowl. People will leave your app and
stop using it like like, so that that that that
is a that is a consequences of my action sort
of thing. But just because Facebook does have such a
disproportionately weird hold on boomers and Gen xers and in
millennials to a extent specifically, that it does need to

(01:06:15):
be rained in a little bit. But normally I wouldn't
give a shit. So yeah, that's like, like, like, you
want to make your app unusable to regular folks, go
with God and see how parlor is doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
So I'm sorry, what even is that anymore? Parlor? Parlor Telegraph? Like, oh,
check out my side on Telegraph. Nobody goes there. No
one goes there but a bunch of like Nazis or
people who are like or people who want to watch
like hardcore porn on Telegraph or some fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
That's it. Like I've never had a Telegraph account. I
don't ever plan on having a Telegraph account. I don't
even know what telegraph website is. It's probably telegraph dot com.
I don't even give a ship. I just do not care. Okay,
that's the end of the free portion for this week's
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