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February 22, 2025 74 mins
This week on Look Forward, Jay and Brad return to discuss Trump's newest inane threat statements that went nowhere, NYC mayor gets a lovely quid pro quo from the Trump administration, more tariff threats send the stock market into another tumble, the push for the unitary executive theory, firing the folks who handle nukes and pandemics just because, CPAC brings out the crazies and one big drug addict has a time, Ukraine is now the blame for Russia's invasion according to their top stooge, IRS fires 6000 people, Republican budget will have massive cuts to Medicare/Medicaid, cities are prepping for how to deal with huge layoffs from the federal government, and much more. 


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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay, I'm here with my co host Brad.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I just wanted to watch my fucking hockey game without,
you know, having the fucking thrust of geopolitics being fucking
thrust in my face.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
No, no, that's not the word all.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
That's all I wanted.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
No, it's everywhere, everywhere.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
But but instead I have to fucking listen to interview
quotes from members of Team USA, fucking dick slabbering all
over the fucking president. I'm glad Canada won last night.
I was rooting for them. It made me very Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
This is patriotic, son of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're damn right, You're damn right.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Fuck us, Yeah, classic classic leftists can't stand with what
what American team was playing.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't watch well the the American team USA.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was an international. So the NHL, instead of an
All Star game this year, did like a little mini international,
four team best on Best tournament, which is a big
because they haven't yeah they well, they haven't been in
the re Olympics for like a decade now, so this
is the first like real best on Best tournament that
we've had. It was actually really fun until you know,

(01:44):
Needle Dick decided to stick his big, ugly face uh
into it because of course, you know, what better way
to prove dominance over our neighbors to the north that
he wants to bring into the Union than to beat
them at their own sport. And and America did beat
them in there in the round robin, but not not
when it mattered, not in the gold medal.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh damn, there you go, Brad.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
What's up? Fuck? Fuck us?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, I mean, Brad, you're you're sort of a proto
proto Canadian anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Look at this guy, look at his face. That's okay,
that's a trader U.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
If they if they would have me, I'd be happy
to I'd be happy to be part of their, part
of their culture.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
So yeah, I can't I can't believe you're turning your
back on the US as I say this, Uh, broadcasting live.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
From Mexican from south south of the border.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's right where it's safe and nice and warm. But
I love I love you guys, I truly do. I
hope for the best. I think it's gonna be the worst,
but I hope for the best. All right, let's get
into it. How much attention do we need to pay
when Trump says dumb ship. That's a good question for
the big topic. A medium amount is where I would.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well, it's weird because, like, as we've talked about many
times before, like the dude just says like like there
is no speed bump between his brain and his mouth,
like as soon as the thought comes into his helth filter,
it's it's right out there. And when you're a fucking
crank calling into Fox and Friends in you know, twenty

(03:24):
twelve to bitch about the topic of the day and
to complain about Barack Obama not being born in America
according to you and all that other shit like, that's fine.
It makes for an entertaining morning show, I guess for
the people that partake in Fox and Friends, and you know,
it's it's it's typical of a Fox News personality. It's

(03:46):
a bigger problem when you're the fucking leader of the
free world when you just pop off and say the
dumbest shit ever because your words carry wait, some somewhat meaning. Yeah, yeah, So,
I mean there's a there's a lot of things that
he's been doing right.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And the reason I guess I.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Lean towards the medium is because some things are said
and they're stupid, and you know they're stupid, and it's
you know, you're trying. He's like trying to gin up
keeping himself in the limelight, which is weird because it's like, dude,
you're the president. You don't have to try to stay
in the limelight. Just do your job.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
You will be in the limelight. Nobody is for that
he does, but he wants right.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
If he if he's if he is not being talked
about twenty you know, twenty four to seven, three sixty five,
he is not satisfied.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, that's a very weird, uh, personal trait. I have
to say. I'm I'm often I'm often amazed by.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
The level of narcissism that he has. Right, Like, we
all know it exists, we all know it's really bad.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
And I think I.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Feel like half of us in this in the United
States or the United States and Jason realize it, and
then the other half, like somehow they don't see it,
which I find amazing that people don't go it's got
a giant narcissist and probably isn't in it. For anybody
else by himself, Like I just don't.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
And and ironically it is amazing how like the two
people with the most main character syndrome have somehow found
each other and have joined hands, like at the top
of the power structure in the richest, most powerful country
in the world. Not great for the rest of us.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
But no, no, it's not and it and you know,
ultimately it's not going to be great for one of them. Honestly,
I don't know which one that is, right, Like they're
you know, it seemed definitive that it would be bad
for Musk. I don't know, right, but like there is
going to come a time where they are going to

(05:58):
bump heads because they are two massive egomaniacs and there
can only be one. Okay, these are highlander rules.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
When the when the when you think Donald Trump would
know this? He was in the stands uh for Wrestleman.
It was in his building WrestleMania five when the megapowers collide,
Like like you like you assumed that he would see
this coming.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, No, he wasn't paying attention. He was probably trying
to put his hand up some woman's skirt that didn't
want it, because he's a giant rapist in a weirdo.
So yeah, it's it's interesting. Like the biggest thing this
like today that really is emblematic of this, like just
saying wild ship, is this press conference he did right

(06:39):
where he's like, I guess, pressuring the n cuale A
to make sure that they don't have trans athletes at all.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
He hosted. He hosted, I guess the annual like governor's
luncheons where all of the governors come to the White
House and there's like a luncheon that the president you know,
speaks sad and right all this other ship.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's pretty respectfully to yahs.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Normally a pretty non eventful ordeal, but.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Today not today.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
So while while he's doing that, like while he's giving
this this update that like the n C double A
has complied and they are not going to have any
trans athletes, which, by the way, n C double A,
if that turns out to be true, I mean, he
just says wild ship all the time.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Who knows if that.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Turns out to be true, you're a bunch of fucking cowards,
Like this is ridiculous, Like if you don't actually believe
that this should happen, and you're just doing it to
bend a bunch of cowards, and it doesn't save you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Like again, Benny, it never, it never does. We're already
I mean quite famously. Target, you know, made a big,
big fucking stink about pulling down all of their de
I policies. Their stock went down, and then there was
a Trump closing closing stores, and and there was a
Trump administration official on Fox Today talking about how Target

(08:03):
needs to do more and they're they're too woke and
they might need to take a look at what they're
doing to make sure that they're not following these the eyepolicies. Like,
I don't understand how all of these corporations, other people
in power, Congress, the judiciary keep stepping on the same
rake and then they turn around and they're like, man,
that was really fucking painful. And then they turn around

(08:26):
and much like sideshobob step right onto another rake constantly.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I really I don't understand it. It's the it's
the weirdest thing that you think that siding with fascism
is somehow going to block you from yeah, from their
rage and from from their like idiocy.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
It won't.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
They they are they are on a path or they
want to be on a path of just controlling and
crushing everything. So unless you're in the administration and you're
just standing on the sidelines going like yes, boss, you're
in the path of getting destroyed.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Like that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Like, I don't know if people understand, like just basic
World War two history, there weren't like the only people
that were not subject to absolute mayhem were the people
making the fucking cars Volkswagen and the dudes making the suits. Hugo, boss,
that's it. Everyone else is you're either in the military

(09:26):
and you're doing what this guy said, or you're getting
fucking mode down. Even if you're like I like that guy,
he's great. If you're in the way, you're going to
get mowed down. There was no businesses other than that
were providing for the military and for the fascist regime
that were saved.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
That's not how it worked, right.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So this idea that you can suck up to power
like you are forgetting where you are in time, This
is not sucking up to Republicans to get a tax
cut in nineteen eighty five. This is to twenty twenty five.
And this guy is a completely different animal than anything
that you've ever seen. And I and and like I

(10:05):
say that as a sort of a warning, uh, to
the media, to Democrats, to the Republicans, everybody stop thinking
this is normal times.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
There are a few people who clearly get it, and
there are people who clearly do not get it. And
you can say, oh, you're you're being you know, you're
you're fear monitoring or whatever. But how many times you
need to get kicked in the fucking teeth by a
horse before you decide not to stand behind it?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And again, these people like, these people are not difficult
to to beat back. It really isn't like much much
like any bully. If you punch them in the face,
you you might be surprised at how much they back
down or how uncomfortable it makes them. And to your point,
with this governor's luncheon, that's what we saw today Janet Mills,

(10:53):
who's the governor of Maine. So so to your point,
Trump was talking about this transathlete ban, and there's a
viral clip that around where he's like, the NC double A,
you know they're going to comply and very quickly, and
he's like, and where's where's the governor of Ma like like,
where's the governor of Maine? Is she here? And Jan
Mills like yeah, I'm here, and he's like, are you
going to comply? And you know, she's like, well, I'm

(11:14):
going to follow state and federal law that exists. And
he's like, well, we are the federal law and we're
telling you to comply, and and he's like so, so
you're going to comply and she's like, I'll see you
in court.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah and literally.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, And he immediately gets flustered and threatens to pull
their federal funding if they don't immediately comply with this order,
which is going to make for a great, uh fucking
piece of evidence to display in front of a judge.
Uh at you know, at the illegal coersion to break
a state law, to violate your state's law, or get

(11:51):
federal funding pulled, which is illegal. And a judge is
going to see that and she's be like, what's your
evidence is going to happen? Here's the president saying it
to me, here's a video of it. Yeah, it's important.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
This isn't like a fucking backdoor meeting.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
The ship was on CNN, dude, So yeah, look I
like that energy man I like that energy. I am
enjoying watching people let go of their bullshit right, Like,
is not happening fast enough across the.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Board for me? Like I feel like it needs to
be happening a lot more.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But it is happening. And I have yet another example
of that of someone who has who has been working
well on just suppressing the bullshit and just being very
open and clearly saying what he means. And I feel
like my man just lost it this week.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Michael Steele, just are you? Oh? This is so good?
So all right, we're gonna play this clip it is.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Who'd have thought that? Like, like I would. I'd love
to go back and fucking twenty years ago and be like,
just so you know, in twenty years.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
We're gonna be on this side.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
You're gonna kind of like Michael Steele a lot. I'm
gonna be like, is he gonna become a Democrat? No?
That doesn't sound possible at all.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, do I become conservative? What's what's gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
No, you're gonna stay on your You're gonna stay on
your both sides of the aisle, And Michael Steele just
gonna give you that fucking real ship. By the way,
everything you think about Michael Steele, I want you to
remember one thing about Michael Steele. Michael Steele is still.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
A black man.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And in this clip you can tell that Michael Steele
has had just about enough. And by the way, he's
not taught. He ain't talking to me, he ain't talking
to Democrats. He is talking to white conservatives. This is
who he's talking to. And he this is a black
man who got you the biggest fucking congressional wins in

(13:56):
Republican history, who has had apps sololutely enough of white
conservatives bullshit.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's wonderful. So here you go.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I would actually, you know what, I'd just like you
to show that you give a damn that you got
a little emotion about the fact that people are losing
their jobs indiscriminately. That this individual sitting down the sixteen
hundred Pennsylvania Avenue has given absolute power to one man

(14:26):
who brings his son into the Oval office, whose son
says to him, you're not the president.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You shouldn't be in that chair. Now, where did he
get that from?

Speaker 5 (14:36):
He got it from his daddy, because that's what his daddy.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Thinks of the man who brought him into the Oval office.
So I'd just like to see somebody wake the hell
up and get excited about the fact that your country
is under assault.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
They're not at the gate anymore. They're in your bedrooms,
they're in your living rooms, they're in your businesses. They
got your data, dumb ass, they got all your stuff.
Elon Musk has his tentacles and everything you're doing.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, yeah, Now I like that energy, right, because that
is where you're supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
That's where you're supposed to be like, oh, well, is
he doing something bad?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yes, dumbass, he has all of your personal data. This
guy is giving him access to all this. This is
the part where you're supposed to be amped up, you're
supposed to be mad. And I love that of all
the people saying that, Michael Steele is the guy saying
that that's how bad it is. That's how fucking bad
it is. Now he's been a never Trumper the whole time.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Good. That means Michael Steele's brain works. That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Even if even if I completely disagree with him on
you know, like about you know, politics in general, at
least we can both agree that that guy is bad
for democracy. At the minimum, and that can at least
respect that. So like whatever, whenever we go if we
ever go back to a moment where you know, it's
not a you know, a legless Gimbli's sort of situation

(16:01):
where I'm like, I never thought i'd fight aside the
former head of the RNC. What about a friend I
could do that, that sort of situation, if we ever
go back to any semblance of what a normal democracy
looks like post Trump, even if I still disagree with
Michael Steele, I can at least respect and like, well,

(16:22):
the tips are down, I do was fucking real and
and yeah I'll take that, and.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
So at least you know that, Yeah it's it. But
but again, it just it. And I I'm gonna keep
saying this because it needs to be fucking said every
single week, like democratic leadership needs to wake the fuck
up and figure this shit out, like like Hakeim Jeffries,
Like one day, like you feel like he's got the
right mindset, and then the next day he's going out

(16:47):
and do it, you know, selling his book that he
just fucking wrote or something, right, you know, while protests
are going on and credit to and and this is
where I don't want people to lose hope, because you're
starting to see the sides, like like the civil action
is starting to get more and more and it's and

(17:08):
it's being directed at the right people. It's being directed
at the Democrats who aren't fighting hard enough. It's being
directed at Republicans. Apparently Republicans made the wise decision to
go out and do a bunch of town halls this week,
uh and got rude awakening. Those those of whom that
actually bothered to show up for the town halls got
some got some interesting responses from their constituents, which was fun,

(17:33):
you know. Hockey Jeffreys had protesters outside of his book
event being like why the fuck you like yelling at him,
like why there trying to sell work? Yeah, get to work?
Like what are you doing? What are you doing? Which
is which is? Which is what you need? The Senate
Democrats are doing a pretty good job, Like they're making
it difficult, uh, to get stuff passed, to get nominees

(17:56):
pushed through. Again. They can't stop it from happening, that's
just not the position that we're in right now. But
they can make it painful. They're trying to make it painful.
Make everything painful, though, don't just do it for nominees
being slowed down. Make every single thing as painful as possible.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Whether it's to make it, make it your job to
gum up the works, that's your job at this point. Yes,
just to slow the fucking onslaught of fascism.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
That that is your job.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And if you can't just full stop, just throw your
body in front of the tank, for God's sake, do something.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And we're also seeing some encouraging signs in terms of
the government funding bill that's coming up from Democrats because
Susan Collins, who is the head of the Appropriations Committee.
Uh and but she and what is news to her,
actually has a lot of power in terms of how
money is allocated in the federal government. I know she

(18:49):
might think that right now, given that she's been pretty
inactive with all the fuckery that's happening around Elon Musk
and his gang of Mary idiots. But she actually put
out a statement because they, you know, they asked her
how the budget negotiations are going, because I believe the
government runs out of funding on March fourth, if I'm
not mistaken, and she said, we're kind of at an
impast right now, because I just don't think that the

(19:14):
that the restrictions of executive power that Democrats are asking
for is reasonable for this kind of bill, Like this
is the kind of bill that we just kind of
pushed through for funding and we handle that other stuff later,
but Democrats are insisting that we put it in this
funding bill otherwise they're not going to sign on to it.
Right good, Yeah, because again Republicans, Republicans shouldn't need a

(19:38):
single Democratic vote to pass a funding bill. They have
they have a majority in both chambers.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, this shouldn't be that hard, all right. So
I created another little sub section on our docket. I
think it's probably a good idea, which I'm calling fast
Corruption and Faster screw ups. These these are gonna be
the story because there's so many things that are happening.

(20:05):
It's too many things to kind of dig into deeply, right,
Like news you need is gonna be where we kind
of dig into, like particular stories that we think are important.
But the fast corruption and Faster scripts is just to
kind of remind you, hey, shit's happening.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So that's what this section is. And I feel like
more of the stories and news Unique could probably go
there too.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
But just for this week, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So first one up in Faster Corruption, Fast Corruption, Faster Scripts.
Trump administration cuts a quid pro quo with nation's worst mayor. Yes,
they are straight up just doing the most trashy bullshit
with Eric Adams in New York, basically just being like,

(20:50):
hey man.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
You've been the knee.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
We're gonna we're gonna make sure we get you get
you out of all your legal trouble.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well not not just you bend the knee. Specifically, they
want him to help them enforce ice crackdowns in New
York City. They want Eric Adams to basically not stand
in the way. This has actually been a really fascinating
story to watch how all of this has played out.
So Eric Adams was facing a federal corruption charge that

(21:18):
was brought by the Biden administration. He's been angling for
a pardon for several weeks from Donald Trump, knowing that
Trump was going to be in office and you know,
wanting to to leverage that as best as he can.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
So what's fascinating is that the Trump administration obliged him
sort of. What they agreed to do was not pardon him,
which is what he is. What Eric Adams wanted, but
to dismiss the charges that they that the DOJ filed
against him, but without prejudice. And for those of you
that aren't familiar with that legal term, dismissing a charge

(21:58):
without presidents means that you can later refile the charges
again if you want to. So, right, so he doesn't
play ball, then they will, they will come right back
after him again. Now this was very funny because the
basically the the the document that m L. Bob, who

(22:20):
is the one of the deputy deputies at the DOJ,
put together, literally had a sentence in it that said,
this is not to leverage Eric Adams's correct, you know,
cooperation with Ice, like we are doing this of our
own free will and he's helping with Ice of his
own free will. This is not a quid pro quo.

(22:42):
Nothing to see here. Please divert your eyes from the
giant building that's exploding behind me. Right, And he need
and he wanted didn't didn't need this, but he wanted
a line prosecutor to sign on to this and to
argue it before court. And funnily enough, the the attorney

(23:07):
the I can't remember what the fucking turney, I guess
it's not the attorney general. The US attorney that they appointed,
uh temporarily at the Southern District in New York, which
is which is a major position, named Danielle Sassoon resigned
when they basically told her, Hey, we want you to
dismiss this, and she's like, yeah, I'm not fucking doing that,

(23:27):
Like this is this is obviously bullshit, Like you're obviously
giving him a pret quotquot equid pro quo to get
him to help the step up with ice enforcement. Fuck you, like,
I'm fucking out of here. And five more people from
that office also resigned in protests on last Thursday, so

(23:48):
so a week ago. Not only that, and and and
also Sassoon's letter was really fun because Bouve was the
one that gave her the instruction, but she sent her
resignation letter directly to Pambondi, basically bypassing him, and and
made him pretty upset about that. So that was fun.
And then later one of the other prosecutors, who's a

(24:12):
couple of days later named Hagan Scottan which is a
very white name, was tapped to do this. Basically he
was one of the like rising stars inside of that office,
as far as like one of the line prosecutors. Now
you have to understand, like this dude, from all I
can see, is no like liberal squish, Like this is
a federal society fucking clerk. For John Roberts, you know,

(24:36):
fucking died, Yeah, died in the wool Conservative And his
fucking letter of resignation was really fucking hilarious because I'm
going to quote from him, no system of ordered liberty
can allow the government to use the carrot of dismissing
charges or the stick of threatening to bring them again

(24:59):
to induce an elected official to support its policy objectives.
I mean that's pretty much. That's pretty much how that.
I mean, that's bold. And then he ended his letter
with a fan with a really good fucking line quote,
if no lawyer within the earshot of the president is
willing to give him that advice, then I expect you
will eventually find someone who was enough of a fool

(25:19):
or enough of a coward to follow your motion. But
it was never going to be me.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Love it now, I mean, ultimately you're going out with
a bang, but ultimately you're not stopping anything by leaving.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, so what ended up happening, Well, what ended up
happening is that they ended up basically bove brought like
fifteen prosecutors from the Public Corruption Office into a meeting
together and basically told them, one of you, who's going
to fucking do this or you're all going to be fired.
And so one of the one of the prosecutors from

(25:54):
the Public Coruption Division, who was close to retirement anyway,
just signed signed, like signed on to do it just
to protect everybody else, which I guess is noble in
its own way to some extent, But me I'm not.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I mean, that sucks, but I'm not mad at that.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Meanwhile, while this is going on, Tom Homan, who is
the head of the head of ICE, basically has a
little visit harassing harassing Puerto Rican women, Yeah, has a
little visit with Eric Adams at his office and then
dragged him like he was the million dollar man and

(26:36):
Eric Adams is Virgil onto the Fox and Friends couch
and basically like, I mean, like like completely demeaned the
fucking mayor of New York City, which is a crazy
thing to fucking be able to do in his city,
like like like like He's literally on Fox and Friends

(26:58):
with Eric Adams literally next to him saying, quote, and
he doesn't come through, I'll be back in New York
City and we won't be sitting on his couch, I'll
be in his office of his butt saying where the
hell is the agreement we came to? And Eric Adams
is laughing and giggling and laughing along. But man, like,
I hope it's worth it, dude, Well, I guess it is,
because you're because I mean, not to go to jail. Yeah,

(27:19):
not to go to jail. I guess it's very worth it.
But I mean he's gonna be out of a job
in several weeks and then what then what and and
and here's and here's the thing that's so fucking funny
about this, Right, Kathy Hokele, who is the Governor of
New York is your typical moderate Democrat toe the line,

(27:42):
wasn't really getting antsy about the fucking Trump administration, and
in this in the span of two weeks, she went
from like, I don't think so. So the government New
York apparently has the power to remove the mayor of
New York City, Like that's something that the governor is
allowed to do and and in span of two weeks,
she went from like, I don't like, there's no way

(28:03):
I do that. That feels pretty undemocratic to me too. Uh yeah,
I gotta, I gotta take a look at this. Now
she ultimately decided not to do it, which I think
is gonna be to her detriment. She has a primary
challenge that next year coming up that she should probably
be concerned about. But she's also pretty pissed of the Trump
administration because the Trump administration is trying to stick their

(28:24):
nose into the very successful congestion pricing initiative.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Well fixed, he fixed it, he fixed Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
He fixed nothing. But that's okay.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Long Live the King apparently, which is insane.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, and now she's on you know, given live fucking
press conferences basically telling Trump to go fuck himself. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's amazing how you can turn sort of of sort
of like you to your point, like this mealy mouth, uh,
non non factor of a politician. You can actually make
them into something quite grand because you're being such a
scathing asshole that people go fuck man like like, well,

(29:10):
we'll talk more about Zelensky here later.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
But apparently because they're you know, JD.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Vans and Elon Mosk and Trump are all going at
Zelensky pretty hard. Like he he was like I think
a little over like maybe fifty five fifty six percent
approval rating in Ukraine, which feels incredibly low to me.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Also, how is that polling working?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
By the way, like like I know there's bombs going on,
can you just like tell me your opinions?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Like it's very weird.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
But he was like a little over fifty something percent,
which again I think is dubious to say the least.
But because they're going at him, Ukrainians are like, we
must stand with our president.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well, I.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Cannot wait to see a pole come out a month
from now to pole like Janet Mills's approval rating in
me like before from before the thing that the governor's
luncheon to after like you know, standing up the Trump
and being like fuck you dude, like like like what
the fuck are you gonna do? Like you're gonna fucking
tell me I'm gonna see federal funding, Like I'll sue
your ass, get the fuck out of here, like like

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voters love a fighter. It's why Donald Trump is where
he is because Republican voters see him as a fighter,
and they're like, that's the guy we want fucking fighting
for me. Now you know, obviously he's not really doing that, but.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
He's not yeah at all.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, but he comes across that way. So and so
it's funny to watch the administration pick these fights because again,
Trump is incapable of just standing down and just letting
people punch themselves out, which is which as the president,
is the smarter thing to do, like like, you don't
have to head back because all you're doing is making
is making new opposition that's getting propped up against you.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Right, I mean just quickly because we're in this like
lightning round section. But Tom Holman, his whole thing was like, hey,
you better watch out or I'm gonna I'm gonna come
after you. I'm gonna have people investigate you and all this.
And she was like do it, bitch, go ahead, and
he was like like yeah, he just fucking ran off

(31:12):
because she called him to the met and he was
just like, ah, fuck, you got it, like god damn it.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Like and she she put she wrote out that tweet.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
She was like, you know, during this process, they want
to tell me to go back to my own country.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
So bad. It's like, yeah, her family is re Porto
Rico originally, like it's a part of the United States. Dude, hello,
Like it's just like, is she from Mexico? Where's she from?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Do?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
We just want to say it so hard?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
And they're not they're not used to having people stand
up to them, and that's that's it's it is. Really,
it is really that simple stand up to them.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Look, they're gonna do terrible ship and they are going
to seize the amount of power they can. But the
easiest way, as I heard someone say today, which I
thought was a really good point, the easiest I think
it was Corey Booker actually, and.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
He was like, the easiest way.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
The way people lose their own in government as far
as like the citizen ry is to not realize they
have it right, Like, when you don't realize that you
can push back, that's how you actually lose your power.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
When you're you're like, oh, could we do that?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
And it's like to like getting the goulac right, Like
the party is already over at that point.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
So to that point, yes, people like aoc uh was
a JB.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Pritzker, like these guys pushing back matters and not pushing back.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Into like, hey, is it okay if we talk and.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Have aca pushback hard and they go oh shit, like
like because they're cowards, all of them. You know, I
think Elon Musk is a tough guy. No, he's not
a fucking tough guy. You think you think Trump is
a tough guy.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Why? Why is it because you.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Saw his head photoshopped on Rocky's body? You think he's
a tough guy.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
They're just bullies and if a bully gets punched back,
they tend to they tend to coward.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Elon Musk is such a bitch that one of his
baby mama basically called him out on on Twitter because
there's like some issue with one of their kids that
they had to.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Get and he fucking shadow bander, Like that's how much
of a Vinci is?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Like oh, like, I don't. I don't want to see
anyone someone talking bad about me. We gotta we gotta,
we gotta cover up her tweets.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Like that's that's that dude, that's that fucking dude.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, this is the this is the tough guy.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Any Like, uh, what what's the line? You know, any
any king that has to tell you he is a king,
is right, like they're not, and uh, I'm super tough
and I'll kick your ass, Okay, like do it.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
I'm not gonna, but I but I could. I could.
Yeah yeah, we know, we know.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So like that that whole idea, that thing with with
AOC was fucking embarrassing for him.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'm gonna investigate you do it, fuck like.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Tomorrow for for for what for letting for telling people
their rights as citizens or even non citizens, just their
rights and the entry.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, like look, what are you gonna do.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
You're gonna investigate her? Are you gonna get get some
trumped up charges? And then what's gonna happen? You're gonna
put her in jail? Do you think that hurts her
or helps her? Like, I don't know, man, feels like
probably not.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
A good idea.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Whole lot of people are talking about former NFL punter
Chris Cluey uh right, yeah, and like like like sure,
seems like he kind of knew what he was doing
with that. Huh. Oh shit, a former punter got arrested
by being silly disobedient at a fucking city council hearing.
Oh shit, that's a news story for two days Yeah,
he's not an idiot. He fuck, he knows what's up.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
He knows what he's doing, right, and let that be
a lesson. Okay, like you can stand up. And the
worst that's gonna happen, at least at this point is
that you're gonna get maybe dragged out, or they're gonna
put you in jail for like nine minutes or whatever
to be like, oh, we showed you, and guess what, your.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Star will rise. That's all that will happen.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So that's why that's why he didn't go after AOC
because he knows that any push but any hard pushback
on her.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Only helps her. He knows that, Yeah, they arrested AOC.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's the story every day now until I.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Saw a couple of weeks ago when when Democrats started
showing up at these federal buildings that Doge was trying
to ransack and and they weren't doing enough to like
push their way in. Like someone on Blue Sky put
play this out there, and I think this is perfect.
Like democrats show up at you know, the treasury is
a page six story. Democrats arrested for trying to get

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into the Treasury is a page one story.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
That's a page one story. And that's a page one
story for a day or two.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Right, it is it is And by the way, okay,
they get arrested other Democrats.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
You go to the next building.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Right, control, Like a lot of this is controlling the narrative.
It's controlling the news. Then control the news.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Cycle like this is.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
This is like fucking politics one to one. Yeah, you
want to win control the Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
You want to get Trump and Elon Musk off the
front page. You gotta do some some radical shit. You
just like the reason they're on the front page because
they're doing shit that that we have not seen before.
So you got to do some shit that we have
not seen before, right.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
In a positive way? Yeah, or we're just wheeled to
change saw. I mean, apparently that's cool.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
To make sure you take a bunch of kedemen before
you do it. We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
To apropos of nothing take more getting a hot tub.
So next up, Trump weighing twenty five percent lumber tariffs.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Cool, it's a good thing. We don't use wood for
anything here across the board.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
By the way, yeah, he's considering imposing twenty five percent
tariffs on international lumber and wood products, looking to add
another item to his ever expanding list of products under
under duties. Quote, I'm going to be announcing tariffs on
cars and semiconductors and chips, and pharmaceuticals, drugs and pharmaceuticals

(36:54):
and lumber.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Why did you say pharmaceuticals twice? Probably and some other
things over the next month or sooner. By the way, the.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Stock market we fucking tumbled down today, like over eight
hundred points, I believe.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, it's it's down two percent over the last two weeks.
To me, it's pretty bazing.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Look, he only had he has he's that Uh, he's
that meme. He has two buttons. It is tariffs and
d I. That's all he's got. It's like, you can
guarantee if there is a problem, he is going to
pick one of those. He's either going to try to
solve it with tariffs, which doesn't make any fucking sense,
or he's gonna blame it on de I.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
He said that inflation is back. That's Biden's fault.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
You've been in office for a month. I was told
that you were going to bring the price of eggs
down immediately.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
What apps that instead they're over eight dollars, just saying weird,
but that that's the message.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
The message now those is inflation is hard.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Jay, It's hard, man, It's hard to do. What do
you want me to do? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I do want to go back a little bit here.
Gallup did polling, and we'll go through this quickly.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Gallup did some polling and it is wild. They did
polling on the day his first full day in office,
and Trump was already underwater. He was underwater forty five
to fifty one percent.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
And that has never.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Happened to a modern president, which is insane. Right, Like
everybody gets the everybody gets to like, welcome to the job, bump,
not him, not him historically low like I think Clinton
is the lowest. Clinton's first first.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, that's not true. He did. He did beat one
president in terms of an initial approval rating, and that
was Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yes, himself.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Somehow he's five points higher than he was in twenty
seventeen when he first took office. That that I don't
understand at all.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I don't don't I don't get it. I don't get it.
He had more dem approval, but.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
He had public approval that's weirdly. Weirdly enough, they were
just like.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, no, it's probably not a great idea.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Bizarre.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, so, so, yeah, he's historically underwater. His approval rating
is dog shit. It currently is at forty five Immigration
is at forty six percent, So he's underwater there. Foreign
affairs handling forty four percent, economy forty two percent, which

(39:48):
is the lowest he has ever been already it has
been one month. Okay, that's that's important to understand, foreign
trade forty two percent, situation in Ukraine forty percent. Situation
in the middle least between the Israelis and Palestinians forty percent.
And that was taken between February third and sixteenth, So

(40:10):
we're like right in, you know, right in the middle
of his you know, four weeks or on the latter
side of his four weeks. Eighty six percent of people
disapprove of him pardoning January sixth, Uh, violent criminals eighty
six percent.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
A lot of Republicans can't wait till the J six
choir shows up at the Kennedy Center. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Well, he's in charge of that's happening.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
That's not a joke. That's that's happening.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
That is happening.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Cool, bro, I can't wait to not see anything at
the Kennedy Center ever. Again, it's awesome. Ironically, the approval
of Congress is up. Yes, people want they want they
want Congress to fight.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
That's what that is.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
It's very low though, it's still twenty Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, it hasn't been It hasn't been high since October
two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Gee, I wonder why.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, at eighty right, but it has been sliding really hard.
I mean for decades honestly, because they don't they are terrible.
But yeah, he's he's not he's not doing well. There
was there's a part of this polling that came out
that said which party would you like to lead? Democrats

(41:27):
to be opposition to Trump as far as in Congress
or Republicans to kind of, you know, solidify.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
What Trump is doing.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
By an eighteen point margin, people pick Democrats.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Eighteen points would have been cool, so, you know, three
months ago, but.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Yeah, no, weird, weird. There was no way to know
they were both so similar.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yeah, I means, as we're finding out, like people are
shocked about what's happening, despite the fact that they're doing
exactly what they told us they were going to do
during the campaign.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
He literally ran on this Yeah as that La Harris
Meme says, yeah, people like uh Anna Casparian was shocked
to know that she was wrong about Project twenty twenty
five and they are implementing Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
To that, I say, uh, well, welcome to.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Reality, and uh we were glad that you got here,
and uh you are fucking useless as.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Far as I cannot believe, like, and she's on video
saying this, like like, I cannot believe she Trump Trump
distanced himself from this.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Gee.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I wonder why, because it's because it's massively unpopular. No,
wonder he distanced himself from because he wanted to. I
don't know for lying. Is Donald Trump known for lying?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Anna?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I mean, it's unbelievable that people still at this point.
I think that they are too reputable people to talk
about progressive politics. Her and Jack like, it's fucking ridiculous
to me. And I used to be a huge fan
of theirs and then they just slid the fuck off
the earth.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah. Oops a doodle, Oops, a doodle. I held just
roid democracy. Can you please forgive me? No I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I don't remember you did that bullshit rant that everyone
was so somehow impressed by where You're like, I'm never
gonna support Democrats ever again or whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Now keep that same fucking energy, keep it, keep it you.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
You put it out there, it's in HD, it's on
your fucking YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Keep that same energy.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And there there is there is an unlimited supply of
of of wealth and money and fame for pretty white
women who won a champion conservative policies. They eat that
shit up. You want to get rich, go right over there.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Yeah, look, you could be Press secretary. You're smarter than
the one that's over there.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Now, what the fuck. Here's a here's a piece of
paper that proves the thing that we were saying.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
What what is that? You can't see it, dude, don't
don't come up here.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
What a fucking joke. What a joke.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
By the way, the other day, and this could go
into our list. The other day I saw the pre
secretary say, this is one of the wildest things I've
ever fucking heard.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
She said, we.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Found a ton of fraud. Elon Musk has found a
ton of fraud. Here are some She was like, these
are screenshots and she was like, these are you know,
these are these are sort of like receipts for things
that have been paid for and these are against the
policies that Donald Trump is for.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
So these are fraud.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
But that's not fraud. That's just what you disagree with.
They weren't illegally like, they weren't illegally paid contracts like
to like Bob's kids, like, oh, we got free money.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
She's calling they're.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Calling fraud things that they just don't agree with, Like
you're the rules of the federal government as you have
put them in place through eos and shit like that
weren't in existence when these things were done. It's not fraud,
you just don't agree with it. Words have meaning, by
the way, they actual meaning. You can't just say a

(45:01):
thing that's fraud just because.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
This is the party that coined the term alternative facts.
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I mean unless we forget Yeah, sadly, Yeah, so fucking Amakesparry.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, just as a side note, like, no, I don't
forgive you, No one should forgive you, and people should
stop listening to your platform. And I hope that it
fucking dies because it deserves to die. You are doing
nothing but being a slightly better produced voice of the
of a Jill Stein variety. That's all you're doing. You're
not helping anybody, So fuck off. And you probably won't

(45:36):
see this, but I hope you do. Hope someone sent
it to and then you can do a video and
you can rant and rave and get in your white
woman bag. And then I'll say something really really rude
that I believe about you, but I won't say it.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Here, at least not at least not in front of
the paywall.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
But if she ever made a video slamming me one,
that would be a huge honor. I've never been by
a big person on YouTube. That sounds awesome. But but
then I would one hundred percent say the thing that
I say to you all the time. And by the way,
I'm correct, I'm really really corrected. I mean, it's as

(46:15):
it is, as obvious as like.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
The noes on your face.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Anyway, Trump administration fires the people who handle nukes and
then scramble to rehire them.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Awesome. Yeah, this whole this whole shoot first and asked
questions later approach to you know, fitting out the federal government.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Really funny, fast, bright things all right, startup.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Not not only did they do this with the Nuclear
Security Administration, they also did it with the the folks
at Health and Human Services who were in charge of
the bird flu epidemic that is currently gaining steam uh
in the country right now. Literally fired them. Realized the
day later, oh shit, that was a bad idea. Oh shit,

(47:00):
we locked them out from their email. Let's email the
people that are still there and see if they can
get in contact with them and tell them, psych, you're
not fired. Just kidding.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
No.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
If I were those people still working there, no, I'm
not doing your dirty work.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
You go go door to door, motherfucker. I nope, I
got no contacts. That's crazy thought.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
And then I would tell those people like because I
would absolutely because I probably do know them.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
And I'd be like, hey, yeah, they're looking for you.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Just fucking take a vacation, man, and when you come back,
ask for more money.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, that's what I would do.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
I'd be like, that's cool, this is what I was
being paid. I would like more money, please, And I
would take that extra money.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
And the entire time I'd be looking for a new job.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Thanks, for the pink Absolutely no, make them fucking hurt.
Fuck them so. And if they don't hire you back,
you already got fired.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Anyways, who gives a shit.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Look, it just goes to show you these guys don't
really give a fuck about anything.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
They're just in the business.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Of running around and doing things because they think it's cool.
They have no semblance of what government.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Not only do they not care it, I mean again,
this just goes to demonstrate the theory that these like
these guys are dumb as fuck, like like there's absolutely
no thought, no consideration behind anything they're doing. Again, they're
approaching it like it's a fucking you know, a hostile
takeover of a private company, like like, oh, we have this,

(48:27):
we have this company who you know is not profitable.
We got to slash costs to the bone, which always
means cutting staff. It's the first thing you do when
you come in take over a company that's not doing well,
You fucking cut costs wherever you can, which means you
fire a bunch of fucking people to get yourself back
to profitable again. And that's not how the federal government
is supposed to work. Ice Like, we have structures in

(48:49):
this country that are propped up by these people. And
here's the thing that really fucking pisses me off about this.
They the most of the people that work in the
federal government could do what they do in the private
sector and probably make more money, probably have more upward mobility,

(49:11):
probably be able to take care of themselves better. They
absolutely could do those things. I truly do believe that
a lot of people who work in the federal government
do it because of the pride that they kind of
feel in doing like a civic duty to some extent.
You can tell me whether or not on fool shit,
because I mean, obviously you worked like as a contractor,
but you work you know, you work for the government

(49:34):
for several for several years.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, like it's almost two decades.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Which is yes, So I don't think it's necessarily about
the Okay, So where I worked was in in the
world of science, right, So I U sory for for
National Institute of Health.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Which really sentence me.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Why don't you find out that RFK Junior is fucking
heading AHHS, which is really great. Else But so where
I where I worked was definitely involving science. And what
I always found is the reason fed employees and even
contractors wanted to work there, not so much a sense
of pride, but knowing that the federal government has such

(50:18):
one massive resources to do real, real work, right, but
they knew that it was kind of the top of
the fucking show, right, Like the people that worked there
were doing things that had.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Implications around the world. Right.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So, Like I worked, where I worked had a lot
of you know, folks from you know, you know, from Europe,
from you know, East Asia, from India, like Middle the
Middle East, everywhere, right South America, all at So for
them coming there and being able to work in the
in those places, you got to see, like it's like

(50:56):
the best example of what the ideals the ideals of
America are, which is like this, you know, this cornucopy
of different ideas and different people coming from all over
the world to do awesome things together to better the world.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
And I think that's more of what it is, not
so much American pride or civil pride. I'm sure there's
some of that, right, but I would say that it
has more to do with you get to work in
a place with like minded people who say, who gives
a fuck where you're from.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Let's all just do.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
This thing that's that's dope as fuck, that can help everybody, right,
And I think that is a thing that people are
going are going to miss, right, Firing all these people
from HHS, firing all these people from the IRS, which
is another story here, you know, firing all the people
who handle the nukes and stuff like that. Those people
give a fuck about the country they do they do.

(51:52):
They give a fuck about the world in which they
live in too. Right, Like there's a like there's like
a fake patriotism, especially from the right, which is that
patriotism only exists as sort of the antithesis of like
a global perspective. Right, you know, they're like, you love America,
you hate everywhere else. It's like, but that's not actually true.

(52:13):
Like what I find like patriotism is, especially in like
environments of work, is in my personal experience, is more
about what America looks like on the world stage.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Not that we're better then.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
But like, dude, we are, like we're doing this awesome shit,
and we're so good at this. We're recruiting the best
of the best around the world to come here. Not
fuck those people, Like that's just not the that I've
just never seen that, so and look, maybe that's other
people have had different experiences. I don't know, but I
can tell you, like, from a science perspective, it has

(52:48):
always been about where the US stands and how they
can pull in people from around the world because they're doing.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Some of the most cutting ed shit.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
So it's a pride in like it's not so much
a pride and superiority over others, but a pride and
superiority in the field that allows other people to come in.
So I don't know, it's a very welcoming you know,
science can be very competitive, obviously, but it can also
be very welcoming to anybody because like, bro, you got knowledge,
I don't have, like fucking give me your brain, right

(53:19):
like that type of shit.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
The whole firing people just randomly is just such a
bizarre idea, especially the people.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Handling nukes, like it didn't well are you just based
on spreadsheet?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
And it doesn't it doesn't fucking And I don't And
I guess because he's doing it inside his own personal
echo chamber. But like when Elon Musli runs to fucking
Twitter and it's like look at look at the look
at what I found, like look at this ship and
then like he fundamentally doesn't understand what he's looking at,
like like the Social Security thing probably the most famous

(53:55):
example because he because he found a ledger where it's like, oh,
look like we're paying social Security to people that are
one hundred and fifty years old and dead, like so
like like this, look look at all this waste and abuse,
and like because he doesn't understand this old like coding
system that the Social Security system uses, Like he doesn't
understand that, like it's like cobalt, yeah, like where it's

(54:17):
applying like a like a false integer. I guess to
people that are that are still in the system because
they existed but are but are not actively receiving like right, because.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Because from my understanding, it's because they're like their spouses
or their children receiving that money.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
So that's why they still exist in that system, right right.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I mean, but that's the point, Like like he's running
it is like look at all the shit, and then
like someone who actually knows what the fuck they're talking about,
like gets on there and is like, yeah, this is
what he's looking at. He fucking doesn't know what he's
talking about. And and and that, and that is always
the common he he truly knows nothing. He doesn't even
know jack shit about the things that he it has

(55:00):
made money from.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
No, it doesn't. No, it's clear.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I mean, yeah, he got into some like big like
you know, pissing match with an astronaut the other day.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
No, not not not an astronaut, the the for the
I think the former commander of the.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
IS s s.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, he called him the R word. Yeah, so yeah,
that was that was that was in reference. That was
in reference to Elon Musk saying like, oh, like you know,
the these two astronauts that are that were stuck on
the Internet, that are stuck on the International Space Station
like oh we you know, like we could have gotten
them out except for political reasons Biden wouldn't let us.

(55:40):
But SpaceX volunteered to do this, and the former commander
of the ISS is like, this guy doesn't know what
the fuck he's talking about. That's not at all what happened.
And to your point, like yeah, they not not only
responded and called the person the R word, but then
immediately like called for the the International Space Station to
be de orbited, like like that's that's what he thinks
should happen.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Because it's outlived this usefulness, I guess to him, Yeah, again,
take more ket just a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
And again all these people out because they cannot handle it.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
They cannot handle.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
It a little soy boys, right is now it's something
they would say, Yeah, that's so stupid. So uh, just quickly,
Freedom of Information Act requests are dead. They have fire
staff for fuller requests. So if you were looking for that,
they found that out. One of the news outlets was like, hey,

(56:38):
let's do a foil request, and I think it was yeah,
like CBS News Journalists was like, hey, let's let's do
a foil request and they were like, yeah, that's cool. Bro,
that staff doesn't exist. Oh okay, good, that's great. And
the head of the National Archives also quit because he
was being pressured too. So that's of luck getting any

(57:01):
data if we ever get out of this healthscape.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
And and I just before we take a quick break,
like talking about all these doge cuts, a lot of
people are missing, kind of like the low hanging fruit here.
And as they said back in the Watergate days, follow
the money. Yeah, isn't it funny that all of the
different departments that they've gone in and made like huge

(57:28):
cuts mm HM. Also happened to be departments that have
direct oversight over Elon Musk's private holdings.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Funny that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Isn't it weird that the Department of Transportation was throwing
fines and different like violations against SpaceX. Isn't it weird
that the NLRB was investigating both Tesla and Neuralink and
Twitter for labor violations. Isn't it weird that the EEOC

(57:59):
was looking at Tesla for a lawsuit that was filed
against them for unfair hiring practices. Isn't it strange that
the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau would have been the committee
or that would have been the agency that oversaw Twitter
wanting to become a financial app of some kind, and
now all of a sudden they're gone. Isn't that strange?

(58:21):
Isn't it weird that the Department of Agriculture would be
responsible for overseeing and the FDA would be responsible for
overseeing uh like Neuralink implant patents that he would probably
like to have happened, and he slashed and burned the
very department within the Department of Agriculture who oversees those
things dissolved it. This isn't compl this isn't complicated.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
No, look, I mean, I look, Brett, I'm not a
conspiracy theorist. I don't know where you're getting all of
this information by reading subtext and or text. So so
it's but it is just amazing. How again these things
are like, ah, that's probably not a thing we should
worry about.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
How how how like like if you're the media reporting
every like every time he gets in the department, just
look to see how that department impacts his private his
private holdings. And if that, if that's not in one
of the first two paragraphs or shit, if that's not
in the fucking headline or the strap line, then what
are you doing? And what do you what are you

(59:28):
doing as a media institution.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Again, there's a reason that elected officials and there's reasons
that the people that they appoint are usually the people
that are in charge these things. And there's a reason
that historically people that have been in charge of these
major areas have been required to you know, divest of
you know, holdings and stuff like that, because when you
can influence these things and it can make you a

(59:52):
lot of fucking money, you have a clear conflict of interest,
despite Trump and Elen Musks uh uh, you know, braying
to the to the contrary as far as Elon's conflict
of interest.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Right, trust me, trust me, bro, Yeah, trust me, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I still think it's just wild that he gave a
press He basically did a presser in the Oval with
his son on his shoulders as you know, his wearable
body armor. And Trump just sat there like in his
little cook chair. And that happened while he was dressed
like up of food, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
And all of that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
And then like three days later they came out and said, well,
Elon must actually isn't in charge of doche and they were.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Like okay, in a court finally, what like who's in
charge of it? Is like that? That that is a
hilarious uh that, I mean, it's it's really hilarious. They
put that down a paper. I don't m me the
lawyer who has to argue that in front of Judge
Chuckkin of all people. By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Fun uh when when when.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
They're idiot when there's literally four K video of Donald
Trump and like yeah, like he's a charge of dose,
Like yeah, he's doing this. Yeah, he's doing that, and
for those who don't know, we talked about it is core.
The only reason that they're alleging that is so that
Elon Musk falls under executive privilege, so that they don't
have to be transparent about the things that he's doing
while he tries to wreck the government from the inside.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Yep, again, this idea that you cannot be touched. It's
not true. It's it's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
All right, we're gonna go right into New You Need.
I'll break up the episode myself.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
All right, New you Need.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
This week, Trump blames Ukraine for the Russia invasion. I mean,
come on, said we all saw this one coming, right like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
This is not a shock.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I mean, I haven't heard it described this way, but
this is the first thing that I thought of. They're
really given, like Drake, Trump's really given the fucking uh
you know, blame the victim sexual assault defense on this one?
Did they were asking for it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
They were asking for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
They shouldn't. They shouldn't have. They shouldn't have had that
country so close nearby?

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
What what what was Ukraine wearing it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Yeah? What? What?

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
What was?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
What was Russia supposed to do?

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Not Nathan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
I mean, not like Porshenko left in the middle of
and I hopped on a helicopter and you know, dimed
up the whole country so I couldn't join the EU.
It's not like that happened, right, That was definitely Ukraine's Yeah.
President Trump on Tuesday appeared to appear to blame. Yeah,
appeared is doing a lot of heavy lifting there at
the Hill to blame Ukraine's leaders for a three year

(01:02:38):
war with Russia, arguing Ukraine President uh Vladimir Zelenski should
have never started it. That's not appearing to blame. That
is directly blaming.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
I mean, I mean he literally for ship language.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I think he literally called Zelenski a fucking dictator. Yeah,
like like like he's literally legend like oh, like he's
not whole elections he like it's like that he's a
fucking dictator. Like you know, you guys call pood a dictator,
but he has elections, like like you know that he's on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
The vote.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Yeah, he's trying. He's trying to fucking hold onto power.
Like that's literally and and and again, like every time
they fucking talk about it. And and this is what's
really interesting about this is that this is one issue
where you are actually seeing some incredulity from the conservative
side of the aisle there. There there was a clip

(01:03:31):
that went around today where Trump was on doing an
interview on a radio on the radio show with Brian Kilmead,
and even Brian Killmead was like like when Trump was
like trying to push this bullshit kill we counter with like, yeah,
Russia did that though. Yeah, Russia did that though, and
and like Trump's like, well, I'm tired of hearing about
Russia doing stuff like like literally said that to fucking
Brian kill me And even Brian Killy's like You're like,

(01:03:53):
come the fuck on, man, like what, like what do
you what do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Here? There is there is no argument on any part
of this earth that makes sense to say that Russia
was not the aggressors in US. They line troops up
on the border of Ukraine for over a year and
they're like remember the Russian little green men.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Oh, we're we're not kind, we're coming, We're not going.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
And then they were like all right, we're in, right,
you don't come on, you don't even have to go,
Like again, which country was it that annexed part of
Ukraine again in ten years ago. Right, I mean it's
it's a joke, right, Like this is complete and outther bullshit.
But it just goes to show you how much how
body is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's I mean, it's it's so weird to hear like
every time the press has asked him about Putin he
gets very shy, and it's it's it's I mean, it's
it's not weird because we know why, like we get it,
but like it's just so weird to see him like
fuckings mister fucking bloviating on everything. Like I'm not afraid

(01:04:58):
to say anything, like I'm the smartest hind the room. Hey,
have you talked to Putin? I can't talk about that.
It's not appropriate to talk about that. No, we just
we just want to if you've talked to him, I
can't tell you that's a yes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
By the way, now that Foyer requests are gone and
the country is largely lawless, by the way, uh, from
the top, I need people to start leaking ship all
over the place. Please just leak, dude, leak this ship
like a fucking sief man. Any information that you have
that could take this guy down or any of these

(01:05:36):
other Republicans. Leak it, leak at, leak at, leak it,
go on your Minecraft discord server or whatever, and just
put it up there like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
One kid, did I have information from the government? No,
you don't, fuck you, bro, And he's like, here you go,
there's some top secret information. Yeah, just leak it. Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Because at a certain point we are we're we're through
the looking glass. There are there are, there are no
laws for these guys not at the top. They don't
give a shot, So why should you respect them?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
I'll put I'll put it in terms that Donald Trump
can can would probably agree with China. If you're listening, right,
let's put it out there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
So, yeah, it's it's amazing. They should have never started it, okay, bro,
Like they started negotiations between the United States and Russia
without you, without Ukraine with without you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
How's that going work?

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
And you know who moderated those discussions? His friends in
the Middle East? Oh, the Saudis, Yes, Jared's financiers.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The the the calm hand that is, the Saudi royal family.
Oh good, the guiding hand of fascist uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
They tried to get Zelensky to give up fifty percent
of his like precious metals.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
They were like, that's a part of the deal, and
is like, yeah, go fuck yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
That's as he should.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I mean it's like like for a guy that kind
of got you know, forced into his like forced into
this crazy situation. Like I think it's remarkable, like like
like the job that he's doing over that's a keeping
shit together.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
So yeah, I mean this guy wasn't He was supposed
to be a war time president, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Uh Trump, And that's the other thing that doesn't get
brought up either. Trump harbor is a grudge against this
guy because this was the dude like like remember it
was the phone call with him that led to the
first impeachment against him.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
So fault, bro, that's your fault. YEA.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Well, you know Lesky called me. He made he made me.
Uh he made me, like you know, he made me
say these bad things to him. I can't believe he did.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
But here's another wrinkle to that story. And Zelenski is
saying the quiet part out loud, and I'm glad he's
saying it. Zolensky quote, the risk that Russia will occupy
Europe is one hundred percent if US pulls out a NATO.
This needs to be said, and it needs to be
said often.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Yes, it's I mean, it's really the fucking reason the
alliance exists in the first place. Right Again, Trump wants
to go read about a history book that ends in
like nineteen forty five or even later than that, really
that ends in nineteen eighty nine if you want to

(01:08:41):
get really you know, serious about it, and and goes
backwards for the entirety of recorded human history basically and
find out all of the fun things that happened on
the European continent, uh for two millenniums yep, and then
and then understand why. But like the the the amount

(01:09:01):
of time while NATO has existed is arguably the most
peaceful time in the in the history of Europe, Like
probably the only time where you won't see where you
weren't seeing invading forces happening somewhere in that in that
high span. I don't I don't think you could find
a fucking eighty year time span in the history of
Europe prior to NATO where somebody didn't try to invade

(01:09:25):
somebody else or try to take territory from somebody else
or anything like that until NATO came along, until until now.
But I mean, I guess technically Ukraine is not a
part of NATO, so that's still hold. It's fine, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
But no, but that's but that's absolutely it. And I look,
I appreciate I appreciate the Lenski's words.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Here, like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
This is not a game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
This guy will try to roll tanks across Europe if
you allow the US to. If the US is allowed
to leave NATO, Trump is going to try to leave NATO.
You can pretend that's not true. Maybe maybe you have
one of those like idiotic anti Casparian moments where.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
You're like, he says he won't do it, so I
have to believe him. You gotta give him credit. No,
you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
That's what he wants to do because it is a
benefit to Vladimir Putin. If Vladimir Putin could get the
US out of NATO, he gets everything he's ever wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Now there is a I think there is a miscalculation here,
which is, yes, the US will leave NATO.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Doesn't mean everybody else is doesn't mean doesn't mean the
rest of the alliance is like, oh, pack it in, guys,
like the US list like I guess, I guess we're
done here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
But one that would definitely not happen, right, because you
will stand as one against Russia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
There's not gonna be one of the countries that are
like our guess we'll just let him in, like maybe
someone will have that conversation and they gonna put they
gonna knock that shit down super fast. Okay, But make
no mistake, we have seen that Russia is largely a
paper tiger when it comes to actual fighting. And I

(01:11:06):
think you and I know, I don't know if other
people know. France is not a place to fuck around
when it comes to this type of shit. France's like
nuclear fucking thought process. Is you even look at us wrong,
we will launch and we're not fucking around like that
is do they have like zero tolerance of that shit
because they're just like, look, we had to deal with

(01:11:27):
that that, we had to deal with that occupation before.
Never again, they will bomb Russia into fucking oblivion, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
And look, you may take al Paris in like every
other movie, but I can guarantee you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
There will be a fucking croissant painted on the side
of a missile before it hits the fucking Kremin. Okay, like,
they are not fucking around. And I don't think you're
gonna get England fucking around. I think you're not gonna
get Spain fucking around. All the major all those big
major countries, Germany not fucking around, right like, So.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
See, we'll see how their elections go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Okay, that's fair. But those major countries are not gonna
screw around. So this idea that Russia is like it'll
be an easy job.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
No the fuck it won't, and it'll be worse for you.
It'll be worse. Ukraine is barely hanging on in there,
a small country.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
You you step your foot into Europe in a big way,
and you have to deal with France and all these
other countries.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
No, he's gonna be a whole different conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
And to bring it back to this, Lindsay like to
his credit, like he basically told NBC, he says, I
will never accept any decisions between the United States and
Russia about Ukraine, basically saying that if we're not in
the room, if we're not involved in the in this
the agreement. Fuck you, you're not You're not going to
impose on us any and even if you and again
like this is the grave miscalculations that even if Trump

(01:12:58):
decides the pool military support from them and and aid
and stuff like that, the rest of Europe's gonna fucking
step up. They will. They will because because again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
To your they know the risks right because this is
this is an existential crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
To their right now that and and by the way,
that might be a net benefit for Trump by the way,
because like you know, like he doesn't want to be
involved in this ship anyway, so pulling us out of
it and and saving that money would be good to him,
but that that's also gonna cost him. Like there's a
lot of fucking Republicans who like in in the in
the talk about this, who have been publicly saying some

(01:13:33):
ship about like yeah, it's not a good idea, like
Ukraine's our ally, like like Russia is our enemy, like
Lam who is a dictator, like like to to the
point where like when he when Pete Hegseth went out
there and was like, oh, like we gotta we got
to appreciate that. Uh, you know, Ukraine being a parton
NATO is not gonna be an outcome of this process,

(01:13:53):
and immediately had to walk it back a day later
because Roger Wicker, who's the chair of the Senate Armed
Forces commit basically went out there and and dumpstered his
ass as far like like we're saying some shit like that,
you know, he basically like gave gave him the head patents,
like you know, yeah, so that's a rooky mistake, Like
that sounds like something Tucker Carlson would say, and Tucker

(01:14:13):
Carlson's an idiot. And then and then and then Pete
Hexmath walked it back immediately, yep, as he should.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Literally his walk back was, Hey, you know when I
said that uh Ukraine wouldever be a part of NATO.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I didn't say that. That's not what I said.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
I lovely, So yeah, yep, okay. That's the end of
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