Fascism Has Arrived (Trump Defies SCOTUS, Tariff Insider Trading) | Ep408 - Look Forward - Progressive Political News

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Top of everything else going on right now. Apparently even
our Chinese made products that we have over here have
started malfunctioning.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah so if Brad, yeah so, if Brad goes blank
and freezes, We're just gonna continue with the show. And
I'm just gonna have that picture up, so don't worry.
If Brad doesn't look like he's moving, he might not be.
He probably isn't all right, So let's just get right
into it. Look right up at the top. The obvious
big story it would have been tariffs until today, but

(00:56):
that got bumped to the side for what may be.
I think the statement we are through the looking glass
is maybe the biggest understatement I think today. Maybe people
need to stop saying this is potentially a constitutional crisis.

(01:17):
This is a fascist state now, and we have now
allowed for an American or a person who is legally
in the United States to be sent off and disappeared
to a foreign country, to a gulag and has likely
been killed. Let's be honest about this, and that means

(01:39):
there is no rule of law. There is no due
process for American citizens. There is nothing. We'll get into
all the details of this, but I am I am
of the mindset now that and this is gonna sound
really weird coming from me, nuance is dead when it
comes to politics at this point. It has now died,
and I'll explain why. For me, it has always been

(02:02):
about what is the context of the moment, what is
you know, going back and forth about how there are
variables in every situation, right, and a lot of people
like to take nuance out of politics, which I think
is can be very largely dangerous. However, today I am
very much of the aspect of you are either for

(02:24):
actual democracy and the right of due process and the law,
or you are for a fascist state. There are no
arguments in between. This is not a like, well what
about There is no argument in between. For me, this
is either, and I hate to say this, this is
either you are with us or you are against us

(02:44):
kind of thing when it comes to the survival of democracy.
This is a binary choice. There is no argument. If
you're a Trump supporter and you're watching what is happening
with the l Salbadorean president in this press conference, and
you're like I'm okay with it or I'm apathetic to it.
You are one hundred percent part of the problem. And
if you are watching that and you're going this is

(03:05):
fucked up and this is not okay, you are on
the right side of history.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Here.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
That's it for me. I am I am done having
any nuanced conversation about it. It is that is simply it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I mean and and here and here's the thing. So
we we've talked about kill mar Brigor Garcia in previous episodes.
This is this is the man uh from Maryland who
was by the administration's own admission, accidentally like mistakenly deported
to this ol Salvadorian like gulag. Essentially that they have

(03:37):
set up where they where they you know, deported all
these suspected gang members of which you know, I think
it lasts last count I heard I heard somewhere say
only twenty five percent of the people that they deported
were actually trying to Agua members and the rest of
his people that they suspected of this. And they had

(04:01):
a district court judge basically tell them, hey, you need
to get this fucking guy back, Like you guys fucked up.
You shouldn't have sent him there to be in with
you got to bring you gotta bring him back. And
the administration appealed the ruling, and it went to an
appeled court and they said the same thing. And then
it went to the Supreme Court, and in what was
a shocking decision by my estimation, the Supreme Court, in

(04:25):
a nine zero unanimous decision, said to the Trump administration, no,
you have to go get this guy back from El Salvador,
like he shouldn't be there. He's legally entitled to be
in the United States.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Go get him.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
And the Trump administration's response to that is, well, you see,
we can't because we can't force El Salvador to turn
over someone that's in their custody.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Right, So this is it.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
This is what Chuck Schumer said, h I can't we're
not in We're not I can't do anything until they
until they flagrantly violate the Supreme Court. Well guess what
it just fucking happened.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, Now, what I like to me, this is again,
I cannot like, I don't feel like I'm I don't
feel like I'm selling it hard enough. This is it, guys, Like,
this is it? They're you know, there's like, oh, but
what about it? This is the moment because if you

(05:30):
are a person who gets picked up on the road
and they say that you are not an American citizen,
or they don't even spoiler alert, we'll talk about it
in just a fucking second. They don't even care if
you are an American citizen. If they say that you
are doing something that they disagree with, speaking out against
America or whatever. Fucking fatherland nineteen thirties nonsense. You want

(05:50):
to talk about if they decree that you are an
enemy of the state, or you are doing something that
they just fundamentally don't agree with, you do not get due.
They pick you up, they put you in a van,
and they take your rest of the airport, and they
ship you to a foreign country to put you in
a gulag to die. That's it. If they can do

(06:11):
it to this guy, they can do it to anybody.
They didn't ask that guy where's his ID. They didn't
ask that guy, Hey, what are you doing here? Let's
check your credentials. Hey, let's put you in a holding facility.
You know, you get you get a lawyer, you get
to talk to your family. Well, they didn't do any
of that. They picked him up and they disappeared into
another country. If that can happen to them, it can

(06:32):
happen to you. I don't understand why these guys watch this.
The people in the Supreme Court, Republicans in the House
and in the Senate, Republican supporters, Republican you know, talking heads, supporters,
Fox used all this. They don't have any impetus to

(06:52):
follow the law. Now, who's going to stop them? You
seated all of your power to him if you're.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
In and by the way, the Supreme Court opened the
door for this there like like like like they like
they are the ones who fucking allowed this possibility to
even rain when they basically just sit up. You're the president.
Doesn't matter whatever you do.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
As long as during presidential duties. By the way, we'll
just make that's a nebulous term, because you could just
say that it is at the time. Right, But as
long as you okay, Brad is frozen, you're still there, Brad,
I'm still here, all right. Yeah, there's your pretty picture
right there.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, look, I'm the whole show. I'm gonna look deep
in thought, which is yes.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So yeah, it looks like you're doing some sort of
like I am a Walrus sort of situation. But for
for them to see their power, the Supreme Court to
see their power to uh Trump by saying, hey, all right,
you get to just do whatever you want as long
as it's the quot unquote an act of the presidency
is bullshit. Look, I also bring blame Congress for this.

(07:57):
They have done nothing to push back on him, right
And by one hundred said yeah, And when I said,
I mean Republicans specific.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
No, I'm blaming Democrats too in this case.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
They are definitely They're definitely some.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, they they have not been they have not been
loud enough. Again, we not not with this specific case,
with this specific instance. It was clear that we that
we were headed towards this to begin with. And if
the administration has shown one thing in the short time
that they've been back in power, it's that if you

(08:30):
challenge them, if you push back against them, they will
back down. We have seen it time and time again
over these past three months that these people like like
like the the Trump administration, for as tough as they
talk and for as much ship as they like to
like pound their chests and act like they're fucking strong man,
they're not. They they will, they will, they will wilt

(08:52):
under the slightest the pushback from it from from literally anybody,
which we'll talk about as we get into the tariffs
discussion later on. But this is it like like if
you if you have a if you have a executive
branch who is not willing to follow the judiciary, and

(09:15):
you have a Congress who is not willing to hold
the executive branch accountable when they step out of line,
the ballgame is over. Yeah, we we we have we
have lost it at that point.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
So okay, I guess the larger question that is going
to be on a lot of people's minds is can
you get it back? And I'll be I mean if
I don't, Congress, I mean you can if Congress decides
to get off their fucking ass, including Republicans and be like, hey,
this is not okay. We are going to impeach you

(09:47):
if you continue to violate this this legally this legal
order that was passed down.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
But Congress is not going to do that because and
I think we talked about this last right, I think
we talked about this last time. Said if not, if
we didn't, I noticed something we've talked about offline something
I didn't realize. Like we you and I have talked
for years about Republicans in Congress in the Arab Trump

(10:13):
and our befuddlement as to why Republicans in Congress seem
to forget that they're a coequal branch of government and
why they insist on seeding their power that they have
to him. And something that was made apparent to me
in the last couple of weeks, something that I did

(10:34):
not realize. Did you know that? Literally? I want to say,
I don't know the exact percentage, but something like seventy
to seventy five percent of the current people in Congress
have not been in Congress. We're not in Congress before
twenty sixty.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow, Okay, that is that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And of Republicans, specifically Republicans and right Democrats have a
high percentage that had been in Congress before twenty sixteen,
they like they have, you know, whereas holding it is
like twenty five percent. I don't know what is for never,
but there's more of them. But the reason they don't
stand up to Trump is because they owe their careers
to Trump, they owe the power that they have to him,

(11:18):
and so they don't dare defy him. Like that's why
Mike Johnson doesn't like is sitting here saying like, oh, like,
we're not even going to take up the bill in
the House to repeal to put the power for tariffs
back at the hands of Congress, because he knows if
he does, he ain't gonna be Speaker of the House,
No Moore, and he probably won't be Congressman Mike Johnson
anymore after twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's a very very good point. I didn't know that.
That's fascinating, right, They don't have They don't They quite
literally don't know what their political lives would even be.
They can't even fathom what they would be pre Trump.
That's that's really really interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And and the people who do offer up even a
meager defense against him on the Republican side, you're Mitch
McConnell's and Don Bacon's and and and folks like that.
They were all there before like like like like like
they understand that, like, no, this isn't how this is
supposed to work. But all of these other people that

(12:13):
have come in on the on the back of Maga,
this is all they know, like this is who they are.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, that's wow. That's a really fucking fascinating statistic. I
did not know that. Now Here's okay, I'll I'm not
I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be able to
give you a lot of silver lining shit in this episode.
I can tell you that, right.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, it's it's it's it's the news is bad, like
like the news is real bad.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's real bad. But that in light of that statistic,
would you say seventy six percent or something like that.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's it's so it's somewhere between seventy and seventy five
for the way I heard.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
It, So is fucking nuts. That's a lot of people
that can get knocked down, right, because if you are
if if seventy six percent of those members of Congress
are tied to mot to MAGA and tied to Trump,
very specifically, that is seventy five percent, let's say, or
seventy percent who are incredibly vulnerable because of all those

(13:11):
the terrible things he does, right, because they are intrinsically
tied to him.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So you say that, yeah, I also said you also,
I just think I remember you. Last last week recorded
we talked about how most voters they are always like, ah,
throw the bums out except for my guy, like my
guy a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
But that's true, right, Like that's true. Now, like I'm
not exactly wrong about that, right, Like, statistically that's true.
But maybe I am actually wrong about that because seventy
six percent of these people are fairly new, right, So
it just goes to show you that things are not

(13:50):
as maybe as permanent as they used to be. Right now.
That gives an opportunity, especially when it comes to the terrorists.
Well we'll get to that. It gives an opunity that
if they pissed people off enough financially that people will say,
you know what, fucking end of this. I don't know.
Americans have disappointed me thoroughly over the last number of years.

(14:11):
So I'm not gonna pretend to say like this is
definitively going to help. But this situation with sending this
poor guy to this El salvadoran gulag, and I cannot
stress this enough. He was legally in the United States
and he did nothing wrong. Okay, they I don't care
what the president of El Salvador says. He's not a terrorist.

(14:35):
That's a fucking lie. Trump said, Oh, they're all criminals.
That's a fucking lie. This guy wasn't he got no
due process, and he literally got picked up on a
clerical error, which the White House admitted to. Right. This
is not a this is not a oh did he
do it? Did he not? No, they admit it quite
openly and honestly, which was a shock by the way

(14:58):
that they fucked up. Now, what's crazy in that press
conference between Trump and and the president of Belle Salvador
is that they are both sitting across from each other
saying that neither one of them has the ability to
fix this situation, as if they're not talking to the
guy on the other end who they worked with to

(15:20):
cause this situation.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And again, like here, here's where the press truly continues
to let us down. How is someone in that room
not asked? Not asking Bakay Lee. So you're saying that
if the if the United States President makes a formal
request of you to send this person back, you're going
to turn it down.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, Like like like how how how is that hit
them against each other?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
A question that's being asked, Like like you're oh, you're
saying that the United States President is a bitch? Is
basically the fucking answer to that question, because that's that's
what they're both playing is you know, Trump's like, oh,
I can't make another country, do you know what? You
know what what whatever I want them to do is
by the fact that he's literally trying to make every
country on in the world do what he wants them
to do through through terraces. And and that's you know

(16:06):
why he you know, has that ship going on, but
you know, ignore all that, all that aside, and then
you know, becauselessly, oh, like I can't send back a
gang member to to this place, and and and I
and I will say this, like, like one thing that
was really cool to see is Chris van Holland, who
is one of my senators, uh from the from the
state of Maryland. Uh. Basically after this press conference, was like,

(16:29):
fuck this. If this dude isn't back by the middle
of the week, I'm going to fucking El Salvador and
seeing and seeing what's up good because he's because he's
smart enough to know that, like, hey, like I need
to fucking get visual confirmation that this dude is still.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
They said, they said he's alive. That's what they said.
The press secretary, Oh, he's he's alive and save Trump
said the same thing. Cool, show him to me, because
I don't believe you. It's well alert, I don't. I
think they are a fucking line. I think he's dead
or yeah by the time they fucking get down there.

(17:07):
Hell yeah, come on. So and that's horrible, right. I
don't mean that to sound you know, flip it. I
really don't because this guy, again, an innocent person. I
really need people to understand that this is not a
fucking game. This is a really fucking bad situation. I
need people to understand that these protests are going to

(17:29):
spark off people getting black bagged and taken to foreign countries.
Like I need people to understand that. Now. I say
all that not to say don't do them. That's not
what I'm saying. You have to fight, you don't have
a choice. But what I am saying is this is
a very real situation. Now, this is not speculative. This

(17:50):
is not a what if they don't agree with the
Supreme Court, Well, that would be a con No, it
is now here Supreme Court said you need to facilitate
the return of this this man to the United States.
The DOJ goes, well, what do you mean by facilitating
We can't do that, and then they just fucked off
the guy. The president of else afdoor sitting right there

(18:11):
and lying to the press. By the way, hey press,
why don't you push back on him and say, this
person is not a terrorist. The president of the United
States said that he was innocent. His administration says that
he's innocent and that this was an error. So why
will you not send him back? They're sitting next to
each other. Why are we acting like these guys are
in two different rooms, like on two different fucking planets

(18:34):
or some shit. They're sitting next to each other. Oh Trump, Oh,
he pulls a fucking Trump pulls a JD. Vans. Well,
why don't you just say thank you for me, you know,
getting these terrorists out of the country, because that guy's
not a terrorist. He's not a terrorist. By the way,
I saw Tommy Lauren, a resident idiot. She went on

(18:55):
some fucking talk show and she's like, well, if Democrats
want to die on the hill of saying bring back
these gang members, well don't let me get in your way.
Go ahead. If Democrats want to make the argument that
even criminals should get due process, they should make the
argument they should make the argument, what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Hey, that is the correct stance to have, right.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh, you want these gang members back, I would rather
they do time in the United States underdue process, and
if you want to if they if they get found convicted,
then you want to send them back to where they're from,
No fucking problem, zero issues with that. But they get
due process because that's what's in the constitution. Republicans are
literally now saying, well, not only fuck the Supreme Court,

(19:37):
but fuck what the Constitution says. Well, if fuck what
the Constitution says, then why don't we just why don't
we have a Why don't we have a conversation about that?
You go make that conversation. You go make that your
argument to the American people that the Constitution that you
guys pretend you're your you're originalist on and everything else,
that's the thing that you want to debate whether or

(19:58):
not it's valid. Steve Bannon on Bill Maher's show, Bill
Maher literally reads him. And I don't mean to give
any credit to Bill Maher because fuck him very personally,
but Bill Maher reads him the part of the Constitution
that talks about term limits, and Bannon is like, well,
you know, we have the the the unitarian presidential you

(20:25):
know yo stance basically that the president is the law right,
he's fucking judged, dread and shit, And so you know,
our team is working on it, and Mar's like, I
don't give a fuck if there's a trillion people on
your team working on it. This is what the word said. Well,
we're willing to challenge that. And Donald Trump is going
to run for president and he's going to win in
twenty twenty nine. Okay, so I'm not trying to be

(20:47):
a dick now, but you should be put against the
fucking wall at this point because it's no longer about
a difference of opinion.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
You're a traitor.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
You guys are literally trying to destroy the country based
on traitor's fascist behaviors. You should be jailed. Look, you
should even get due process. I'm fine with that, but
you should be brought up on fucking treason. That's what
you're doing. Your treason is fucking behaviors. But but the
news is like, well, and Bill maher is, you know,
asking these questions, and people are giggling in the background.
This is not a joke anymore. This is very fucking serious, and.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And as to the side like Bill Maher, why the
fuck are you talking to Steve Bannon on your shoe?
What is the New York Times? Why are you fucking
profiling Christopher Ruffo in your newspaper? Like like like, stop
fucking platforming these people. We do not need to listen
to what they have to say. And here's why, and

(21:41):
here's why this this situation specifically is is fucking concerning
because it as part of this meeting. I don't know
if it was a hot mic moment or if they
meant to get caught saying this or what or what
the fuck the deal was going on? Yes, but basically Trump,
there's a video of Trump talking to Bikayley saying, Hey,
you you've got to build more prisons because I want

(22:01):
to start sending homegrown Americans yep, to l Salvador.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
He says, you need to build five more. That's what
he says. So what are we doing? Now? What are
we doing? Now? You're sending it's no longer a conversation,
which by the way, was not a valid conversation anyway,
But it's no longer a conversation about whether or not
here's this person's status is in jeopardy or is in

(22:30):
question or whatever you're talking about. People born and raised
in the United States, they are.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Way Here's a quote during the press availability that Donald
Trump said, Now keep in mind, this is the US
president who swears an oath to dutifully carry out the
laws of the United States, and he says to his
Attorney general, quote, I'd like to go a step further.
I don't know what the laws are. We always have

(22:55):
to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals
that push people into subways, like to include them in
the group of people to get out of the country.
So we're just fucking like I said, so, as I
saw someone else mentioned on online or other day, we
have basically traded all of Europe to a guy who
who builds prisons for profit, who is so smart that

(23:20):
he's like, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
fucking put my country's federal treasury on cryptocurrency. That seems
like a great idea. Yep, I'm gonna ride the fucking
wave with my country's money. That's that's the dude that
we traded the rest of the EU for.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Essentially, yeah, cool, So what stops Donald Trump, And I
asked this question quite quite seriously, what stops Donald Trump
from deciding, you know what, sixty minutes they wronged me?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:59):
That was his big thing this week. Sixty minutes wrong
me by going after me by like telling the truth
and shit about what I'm doing? What a crazy idea?
What stops him from just grabbing one of the producers
or grabbing one of the hosts from that and black
bagging them and sending them off. Tell Salvador what stops him?
What stops him from going after his political enemies? What
stops him from grabbing Hillary Clinton off the street, Kamala Harris,

(24:22):
Joe Biden? What stops him from doing that? Now, if
you're a maga person, you're like, that's really funny. What
stops him when you don't agree? What's something he's doing?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I mean again, it's it's it sounds it sounds trite
because we've heard people say it so much and you know,
possibly overreacting a little bit in the past, but you know,
this is kind of where we're at right now. But
kind of that whole meme of you know, first they
came for you know, the Jews, and I said nothing
because I wasn't a Jew, and you know, YadA YadA.

(24:56):
I mean, if they're gonna keep testing the fence and
they keep not getting shocked, yes, that that is absolutely
going to happen, as you're going to get escalation like
like like they they will keep doing it until somebody
stops them. Then they will keep escalating and keep moving
on again. The reason they did it with this guy

(25:16):
first and with the end that with these you know,
alleged gang members first is because they know that these
are the people that regular Americans probably don't give a
shit about and in many cases probably agree with what
they're doing. Right, and but then but what they're doing
is they're setting a precedent and when nothing gets pushed

(25:39):
back against then and then it becomes all right, well, well
now let's try this group of people. Now, let's try
this group of people. Now, now's try this group of people.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah. I look, we talked about on the previous episode
for Black and Black Cinema this past week that black
people are not really heavy in the streets on these protests.
This is why. This is why, because I can guarantee
you he would love to send some young black boys

(26:11):
over to these fucking prisons.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, and and and and and to fucking quote Hans Kruger,
maybe eventually we'll get to someone who you do care about. Yeah,
I mean that's that's that's sucking it right there.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah. So make no mistake. If you think that it's
only going to be a bunch of Latin folks who
get sent over there, you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And and and breaking and breaking news. This is not
the fucking response that I want to hear from Democrats.
Uh HAKEM. Jeffries is on uh inside with Jensaki tonight.
Jensaki asked him, what, if any power do you and
other Democratic members to have to compel to push the
government to bring this guy home. And Jeffrey's answer is,
we have the power to shape public sentiment. No, you
have more power than that. No, man, don't vote, don't

(26:54):
don't do not vote on any bill that they want
to pass. Do not do not grant any unanim is
consent on anything, no matter how, no matter how trivial,
no matter how perfunctory a vote is. Grind this ship
to a halt as much as you fucking can, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Absolutely. You make it so that these motherfuckers hate your
guts for real they won they already do, but make
it impossible. Oh, government isn't efficient, you know, it's really
not efficient. Congress, guess what's happening right now. Chuck Schumer
and hacking Jeffries need to have a conversation. We do nothing,

(27:34):
we do We give them nothing, nothing, not a single
fucking vote, not a single fucking anything. Nothing gets out
of committee without our fucking hand. If if they need us,
it will not move every single thing. Everything gets filibustered,
everything gets fucking slammed down. Nothing gets done. You got

(27:55):
an idea for Terris fuck off. Nothing gets done until
this guy is either verified that you that that he
is unfortunately passed and his body is brought back home,
or that this guy comes home in life. That's it.
That's it again.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
It's like I said, the discord. Democrats don't have power,
but they do have tools, and that's use the tool.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You use your tools. That's right, that's right. Look man,
I'm not I'm not even again, I'm not even remotely
interested in a fucking nuanced conversation with any conservative about
none of this shit about just black bagging people and
sending them off to a fucking Google. There is no
conversation to be had. You are either for democracy and
for the United States and how it is run as

(28:40):
a normal fucking country, or you're for this shit. And
again all of these sort of comparisons of the nineteen
thirties Germany. Oh, is that too far?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
No, it's not too far. You're here now, you're here now,
what makes you think? And all, by the way, all
of this is under a false are right. They came
out today and said, anybody who's out there, uh, Steven
Miller said this, anybody who's out there making you know,
anti Semitic comments, you know they're gonna be you know,

(29:12):
you know first up on this. You know, we'll send
them out of here. And everything else. They are literally
using a lie about anti Semitism like they give a
fuck about it, like their supporters of the most anti
Semitic people in the fucking country. They're using that as
a lie to just take out people they don't they
don't want a round. That's it. If you think it's

(29:34):
gonna stop with Latin folks, you're wrong. If you think
it's gonna stop with Muslim folks, you're wrong. If you
think it's gonna stop with black folks, You're wrong. If
you think it's gonna stop with just white men who
are liberal, you're wrong. Okay, they tried, and this was
a less reported story, which is fucking insane. They tried
to send two women to this prison by the way,
They picked up two women and tried to send them

(29:55):
to that all male, fucking prison. And you know what
stopped them from going. El Salvador was like, we can't
even do this.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, they sent him back. By the way. States states
could also get involved here and and and I don't
know what it would do, but at this point, better
better to get caught trying.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
So Martin Mallley, former governor shit of Maryland, uh basically
mentioned that state that you could have the state attorney
general file kidnapping charges against the ICE agents that picked
him up.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I like it. And then fucking yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, absolutely take him the court man, take them the court.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, fuck them. Oh they're just doing their jobs. Yeah,
that sounds very normberg of You get the fuck out
of here. This is bullshit. This is bullshit. Every single
one of these guys who does this ship should be
sued by the states in which they do them. If
they are run by reasonable people. Right, they should, and
then it makes it so that they don't want to
do the job either. Yeah, to tell these motherfuckers up

(31:00):
in court and go after them personally, by the way,
not just like Ice, go after these guys personally. We
going after your personal finances. You going to jail. Yeah,
Oh well, I don't give a fuck. Oh I was
just following order as well.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, and it's been working Numberg buddy.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, that's what the nazisay. Who gives a fuck. You
gotta understand the moment you're in. And I mean that
to American citizens, politicians, talking heads, institutions, whomever. You have
to understand the moment you're in. We always talk about
that idea of like, well, if I was around during

(31:37):
XYZ major historical event, this is what I would do.
This is a major historical event. This is not one
that's gonna get blown off in fucking four years and
we move on to a Democrat and then everything is
fucking monkey door goes up and down. No, this is it,
this is it. This one. There's a big isn't there
a big plan? March? I think coming up this weekend.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Another one. Yeah, I mean they've been they've been seemed
like the last couple weekends they've didn't.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, there's a big I'm pretty sure it's a big
fifty to fifty one national one this coming weekend. This
is gonna be telling. It's gonna be telling because if
there is anything, and don't think that they won't try
to push shit. If there is anything, they will use
it as a way to black bag American citizens and

(32:24):
get them the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I mean, they didn't do it. They didn't do it
during last one because again, if you push back instid
they are they they will crumble.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah. But now, but yeah, I agree with you, But
I think things are different after this nine to zero
ruling that they ignored. I think I think that's the
big difference. Right Supreme Court said hey, you're going to
do this thing, and they were like, um, no, fuck off,
and nothing happened. So now that they have confirmation of that,

(32:52):
I'm not so sure that pushing back on them how
that's why would they back down? I think the only
thing that makes themone about down as over financial issues,
because quite literally, you got your big dogs who are
like coming out like, yo, I'm a billionaire and I
don't like this ship, right, Like that's all Trump respects.
But again, how far does that go? Because hey, man,

(33:16):
if you're talking shit, maybe I fucking put you in
a goolg and I don't care. If you're a billionaire
and I sees all your essence, what are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do? Mm hmm. You don'na fly
off to another country, But I hope we don't catch
you first, you know what I mean? Like there there
is there is a moment here where you don't have
any escape from him unless you don't live in the US.

(33:40):
So if I'm a billionaire and I don't like this ship,
maybe I'm talking shit from international waters on my yacht
I don't like you know what, Like maybe I'm not
sitting in my house in fucking Texas saying this ship.
But that's what he wants.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Mean that are gonna say say the least because they
have the most to lose, so they're gonna shut the
fuck up and play ball.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Try to ride ride the storm out. Yeah, look, man,
it's all go ahead.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Well, I was gonna SAE should take a break. When
we get back from the break, I want to go
to the discord because there because there was a post
that someone made last week and I thought we should
address it on the show, and so I think it's
a good good way to position.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
So okay, all right, let's uh, let's take a quick
break and we're gonna come back back. Okay, we are back,
all right, So all right, what's the discord?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
So so Matt Arthur in the look Forward discord look
Forward show dot com slash fans. But they they asked,
in response to our last episode, I need some help here.
Here's the short version of my question, what the fuck
more should I be doing? So they talked about how
like they're boycotting companies that are outwardly supporting this ship.

(35:00):
It preparing themselves for another recession, the fourth Republican creative
recession in their forty years on Earth. Yes, hunkering down
at their job despite wanting to leave, lots of days,
trying to teach my kids compassion, be supported of others,
praying even though I'm not religious. I even bought a gun.
I don't like guns. I'm not a gun guy. So
what now? More protesting, more hoarding TP Should I start

(35:21):
playing hiding place for VIZA holders that have theirs rescented
et cetera. So here's here's the thing. I we as
people who are socially conscious, who know, who understand what's
going on, to understand the gravity of things that are
going on. And I don't mean Jay, and I mean
people listening to the show, Like people that are informed
about politics and before and informed about the gravity of

(35:43):
everything that's happening, are burned by knowledge. And again, like
you feel helpless because you feel like like I want
to do something, but I don't know what to do
first and foremost and again it was this was made
a meme, uh you know twenty five years ago when

(36:05):
it was said, But there's sub logic to it, much
like the Bush administration said in the wake of nine
to eleven, to continue living your lives or the terrorists win, right,
you kind of have to still continue on going as
you would normally, right, Like, you can't. You can't upend
your life just because this shitty government is is being

(36:30):
fucking fascist because that's what they want you to do,
Like like they want you to be scared, they want
you to be distraught, they want you to be miserable
because when those things happen, you don't fight as hard
you get you get beaten down. So you have to
continue to find reasons for joy. You have to continue
to find things to be happy about, you know, whether

(36:52):
that's your family, your friends, hobbies that you have, whatever,
whatever the reason may be, you still have to you
still have to be you. And that's and that's first
and foremost the most important thing. Outside of that, do
what you can, like like like like not do what
you can like that's I mean, that's the thing. Like
it's gonna be different for every person. That means that
you go to you know, protest events and stuff like that,

(37:15):
because you can do that, then that's great. If that
means you run for office because you want to get
the shitty Democrat or the shitty Republican you're currently is
holding a state seat in your state or a federal
seat and you want to and you want to be
a congress person, go do that, like like like fucking
go for it. If you just learn what's happening and

(37:35):
make sure to tell your friends and family so that
they are also informed about the moment that we are in.
That's helpful too, Like everything you do.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Extremely by the way that that to me, I'll just
make a point here that to me, is one of
the bigger ones. Right. It feels small, but it's not.
If you are if you are sort of a lynchpin
in your family for information and like you're in it right,
like you listen to the show, you watch the show,

(38:04):
you're a giant nerd about this shit like we are.
If you have a lot of people in your family
who are not as informed about these things, and you
can disseminate information, real information to them, or point them
in a direction to get real information so they can
understand the gravity of the situation, that is incredibly important.

(38:28):
It's probably one of the most important things. Because the
vast majority of people who do not vote, or the
vast majority of people who do vote for Republicans, are
woefully ignorant about what is happening in reality. So if
you can be the person in the fanily like whoa, whoa, whoahoa.
That thing you're saying, actually isn't true that you heard
at the barbershop. Actually that dude was legally in the

(38:50):
United States, and he is granted due process because of
the Constitution. If you can, if you can say things
like that and be sure about what you're saying and
back it up with facts, and disseminate that information to
your friends and your family. You may not reach all
of them, but you might reach ten percent of them.
And that is a massive difference in what was there yesterday. Right,

(39:14):
So don't don't sell yourself short. Sometimes just being an
arbiter of facts can be a tremendous powerful thing in
a friend group or in a family group, you know,
either way. So yeah, I think it's really smart. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
And so so again, like you do you do, which
can not all of us? Like like I'm sorry, Like
I have you know, I have wife and a special
needs child, Like I can't. I don't have the time
the energy to go out and protests with all the
twenty somethings out there. I just don't. And and so

(39:50):
that's part of the reason why I feel an obligation
to do this show, because I feel it's important to
speak to you guys listeners, to keep you guys informant,
to know what's going on. So that's you know, that's
that's what I can do.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I can.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
I also have disposable income that I can use to
donate to causes and donate to campaigns that I feel
are worthy of my of my dollars. Again, if you're
if your financial situation is not in the same boat,
that's not something you can do. And that's okay, Like
like you can volunteer, you can, you can give your time.
I I give money because I can't give my time,

(40:22):
so you know I might and.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
We as we disgustingly wealthy.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
So so I mean that's like, like, so you do
what you can. That that that is always the answer
to that question is is you do what you can.
You figure out what you can do. If you can
do more than do more. If you can't, then you don't.
But just at the bare minimum, just make sure that
people around you understand what's.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Being done in their name as as as as as
an American and and the fact that we have a
party in charge who is torpedoing what the value of
what this country, what we were told it stood for
for the past, you know, two hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, so almost made it. So yeah, it's Look, it's heartbreaking.
I'll be honest with you, it's really heartbreaking. This is actually,
in a lot of ways, this is more heartbreaking to
me than the election was, which was just a direct
understanding of what was coming. But it's here now, and

(41:29):
that actually really makes me sad. I'll be honest, I
know that there are going to be people who think, well,
we've been through worse things. You don't know that because
you don't know what comes next. None of us do.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's the worst, the worst day
in the country's history. No, it's the worst day in
the country's history so far.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, so we we don't know, and I don't know
what it looks like. Look, I don't you know. I'm
obviously not in the I'm not in the US right now.
I am an American citizen, but I'm not in the
US right now. But I have family who is My
parents are my my my best friends are right, my

(42:14):
colleagues are, and just people in general who did not
want this are and ship even people who voted for
who didn't realize how bad this is, even they're in it,
and they're going to suffer tremendously under this. I don't
want any of them to suffer. I don't. I'm fine
of you, like, lose your business. Have you voted for this,

(42:35):
That's fine, I'm giving fuck you, But I don't want
to see people get harmed and I don't want to
see people get hurt. I know I'm a I'm a
lib coock in that way. Sorry, I was. I was
instilled with empathy in humanity by my goddamn parents.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
It's it's it's it's it's amazing how much some of
the empathy has been beaten out of me over the past.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Uh well, yeah, yes, I will agree with that. Yes
I have. I've lost a little bit of speed on
that fastball, as we like to say. But but yeah, overall,
I don't want to see people get harmed and hurt,
and especially innocent people, right, because what's happening to this
guy may feel like a like that's over there type
of shit, but it's happened in to all of us, man,

(43:21):
That's what you have to remember. This is happening to
all of us. Now. He is feeling again a lot
of that ship, but it is happening to all of
us because it is a canary and a coal mine
of a fucking nightmare scenario that I think a lot
of especially fucking Republicans, are just like, none of that's
gonna happen until it's like, why is there a knock

(43:42):
on my door at three in the morning I just
made a comment on Facebook. I didn't think it was
that bad because that's where you're going. That's this is
where you're headed, right, this is where you're fucking headed.
I mean, I don't want to live Here's here's a
twenty five cent word. I don't want to live in
a fucking panopticon right where everything is watched in fucking

(44:04):
tracked and we're all like good little citizens because we
don't want to make sure that we step out of
line because the AI is watching right, which is a
fucking program by the way, was it Planet Teer or
something like that that they're they're yeah, that they're pushing right,
this AI thing that's scanning everything from your fucking comments
online to cameras in the sky and drones and ship

(44:26):
to keep you in line. These motherfuckers are on TV saying.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
This ship do you wanna do you wanna do you
wanna spec her? Because this is how you get spector.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Right, So no, thank you, no, thank you? So I
don't I mean this is look, I'll be honest, this
is one of the reasons not that like I saw
it exactly like this. I'm not some sort of fucking
suits there type of ship. But this is one of
the fucking reasons why my wife and I moved. I

(44:55):
noticed shi it was getting worse. And you know, a
large part of it is we wanted to raise our
dog in just to have an international perspective, which is
I think, good if you can do those kind of things.
But part of it is I didn't want to raise
my black daughter in this ship. I didn't well.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And I'll tell you this if you if you did
have a mind to come back at some point, it
certainly not gonna be in the next four fucking years
at least.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
No, And my wife and I had actually had a
conversation about that recently. And no, No, the things that
are in place now that we like or agree with
or stuff like that that's different than where we live,
there are no guarantees that those things will be there
in six months. There's none. There's zero.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, and and even and even trivial shit, I mean
stuff that doesn't feel trivial, but it is kind of
trivial in the grand scheme of things. Like you know,
my my wife's car is getting ready to be paid off.
We're we're a family that likes to carry just one
car payment at a time. Usually when her car gets
paid off, it's time for you to buy a new car. Nope,
not not fucking happening right now. We were thinking about,

(46:00):
you know, looking for a new house in the next
year to three years. Nope. Not while Trump's an office, probably,
like it's gonna be kind of fucked like, like this
stuff is going to change, even even those of us
who don't have the social concerns necessarily, like this is
gonna like these these these decisions do matter. They do
change how your life is going, you know, like and

(46:23):
and and as and as the discord comments, as Matt
Arthur mentioned, like they're not particularly happy with their job,
but right now, if you can tolerate it, might it
might be best just to kind of hunker down and
and kind of weather the storm because unemployment's gonna go up.
Like that's you know, yeah, it's gonna that's that's just
that that that's just the facts.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Yeah. Oh boy, Okay, So let's let's go to uh
new you need boy? Oh boy? So the the the
drop the rally. Insider trading potential. Some people say there

(47:05):
might be inside of trading. I say, there's definitely inside
of trading.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Martha Stewing, the very person that we were talking about
a new story in private conversation offline. Some news just
broke about her tonight as a matter.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Of fact, go for it.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Uh so, well, we have to give the whole fucking story,
even though everyone fucking is and so of course Trump
rolls out. We talked about last episode his quote unquote
reciprocal tariffs on countries basically any country that we had
a trade deficit with, which is not a bad thing.
He thinks it's terrible, but it's it's it's just how

(47:41):
fucking things happen. You buy stuff from people, Okay, but
basically got hit with massive tariffs on top of a
ten percent tariff across the board for like every country,
essentially and predictably, the reaction to that from the Star
market was not good, not good at all, as it plumited,

(48:04):
plumited over basically the entire week last week. They announced
the tariffs on Friday, Futures looked like shit. The market
open Monday, and it was it was down. I think
when it was all said and done, I want to say,
like like a fifteen drop in total from from its
hype back in back in February.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
And it was worth over ten trillion dollars in stock market, right.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
And and what what what was really a concern? So
and again this is a very ten thousand foot view
of this. The US bond market is considered a very
a bell weather stability because no matter what's going on
in the world, the safest thing that you can do

(48:53):
is buy a US bond because basically that that that's
like saying, hey, like you know, we we have we
trust the full faith and credit of the best of
the biggest economy in the history of human kinds. So
like when countries are struggling or when issues are struggling,
they'll buy US bonds because they know, you know, five years,

(49:14):
like I'm gonna gain some interest. It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be fucking awesome. Like like like this is
this is a safe place to put your money.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Easy money, easy money.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Easy money. Well, the bottom market started to fall off,
and that's what that's what really sent alarm bells ringing,
even for this administration. And so in reaction they got yippie, right, Yeah.
In reaction to this, Trump paused for ninety days the

(49:44):
reciprocal tariffs that he rolled out just the week before.
Now it's important to note here, except it's important to note, well, well,
there's two notes. So first of all, the ten percent
tariff across everybody still in place, all right, So so
every country's still getting tarriff an extra ten percent, still
the biggest increase in tariffs probably in the world in

(50:07):
one shot, basically, so like things are still going to
be considerably more expensive than they were even getting rid
of the extra several tears. But of course carved out
from this was China, and basically China and he and
Trump are in a tip for tat full blown trade
war at this point because China is essentially matching whatever

(50:30):
tariff the United States puts on. China's matching. It is
where they're at right now.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Did you see what's happening with China right now?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (50:38):
No, repeat this?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
So, oh the trolling are you talking about? Like the
trolling they're.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Well, there's plenty of trolling, but what is happening is
folks who work in the retail business. Oh this, yeah,
I love Look look, I am a petty fucking person
and I respect the pettiness of others. I truly did,
especially when it's coming towards people I hate. So people
in the manufacturing industries in China, which there are a lot,

(51:07):
have been going on TikTok. I mean, like, listen, you
know how you guys are paying for these like high
end brands in America like your your your Gucci and
your Louis Vauton and your Burking bags and all the
other horse shit. Yeah, well you know those things are
made here in China. So here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna show you how to buy those items for

(51:29):
one percent of the price. And you know what, apparently
and I didn't know this, I did a kind of
a deep dive into this last night. Yeah, there's a
lot of people who do this, have been doing this
for years, by the way, They've been buying all of
this shit because like you can use these agents to
that have access to all of the manufacturing companies, so
you could just order the same shit that people buy

(51:51):
in America for like you know, a massive markup I
don't know, two thousand and five thousand percent markup. You
can just buy it directly from these people with the
logos and everything, right, Like these are the like.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
The legit ship, which it'll take.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Seven weeks to get you, but not anymore, not even
they figured this out. Okay, it's like a week, dude,
Like it's crazy. I'll send you some links. It's actually
really quite funny. I'm gonna buy stuff next week. Maxically
don't have any terrorists with China, Like we're good, No,
not at all. We didn't do anything. We're innocent. So

(52:25):
but more importantly, this is this is all payback, right,
Like why did you think that this was gonna this
is gonna work?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Like hey, for for all these companies asked for this
to happen by throwing their full support behind him. Look,
I love this for you, I love all of it
for you.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
I agree. I agree with that. Yeah, I know you deserve.
You get what you deserve.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
So again, uh the bottom like Trump's like, oh they
got a little yippi. You know you got a little
yippy dude, Like you freaked the funk out because and
I love I credit words to you, man, like I
fucking love like you can't ship a shitter. I love them.
Trying to spin what happened after he announced this pause
last week, Because after he announced the pause, of course,

(53:07):
the market rebounded. Now now this was Friday, immediately immediately,
And so then his people came and like, oh, like,
I don't think I think this is a record for
a single day growth in the stock market. I'm like, yeah, bro,
you're still five thousand points below where it was a
week ago.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
At that. That is not how that works. You can't
you can't start with one hundred dollars lose fifty percent
down to fifty dollars. And they were like, well, we
increase fifty percent, Well, then that's only seventy five dollars,
Like that's not not back to one hundred, dude, Like
not at all.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
So but but and this kind of led to some
more controversy because basically Trump sends out a tweet nine
o'clock I think Friday morning, a roundabouts or not a tweet,
but but a truth whatever. Do you know where the
fuck is is what? Being like, hey, now's a great
time to buy. And people were just like, this is
this Dude's fucking bent. And then two hours later, all

(53:58):
of a sudden, he announces, oh shit, I'm gonna pause
these terriffs. And then and then the market rebounds immediately,
a lot of people saying, uh, probably a signal that
and and and to the point. Uh, Marjorie Taylor Green,
everyone's favorite fucking piece of shit congress person pro Magnet

(54:21):
bought the dip jay. Yep, she bought the dip on Friday,
right before the announcement came up.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Yeah. She she's increased her her net worth. I think
from like, she was worth like three million dollars when
she came into Congress, and now she's worth like, I
don't know, it's like sixty million or something like that,
or or more. She just happened to buy then, which
is curious. Look, Donald Trump is clearly making money off

(54:56):
of this. He literally did a video inside.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
And his yeah, and his friends.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Right, he did a video inside the Oval office where
he's like, hey, here's Charles Schwab. He made two point
five billion dollars today and this other guy made nine
hundred million dollars. I'm like, you're you're telling everyone that
you guys are in on it because he has an
unbelievable guilty conscience. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
From from from from the New York Times, Marjorie Tayler
Green purchased at least tens of thousands of dollars in
stock the day before and the day of President President
Trump's pause of a sweeping set of tariffs that sent
the market story. Yep, so she made millions of dollars.
I'm sure it wouldn't it be cool if we had
a functioning SEC so that they can investigate. Hey, who

(55:42):
who exactly in Congress all of a sudden got real
aggressive buying stock? Trading stock Thursday night and Friday morning.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
You can't be mad at Nancy Pelosi for trading stock
if you're not mad at this, That is correct. You can't.
You can't. I am consistent on that, And then I
don't think this is a have to beliether, Nor do
I think Nancy Pelosi.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, ban ban every congress person and their immediate family
from even being able to own stock in anything. Yeah,
make it a law. Hey, ban anyone of these who
serves in the executive branch. Yep, ban every judge. Yeah,
I don't give a ship.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
And guess what, you know what you'll see You'll see
less people running for Congress.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Good because the people that running will be the people
that we actually want to fucking be. They're not the
ones who are going there just to get fucking.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Rich, not not, and none of this like, oh you
get to be a lobbyist after five years. No, you
never get to be a lobbyist. You never get to
be one. Never, never, you never get to be one, and.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
You can't trade stock. And that's what you and I
we were talking about, because like you brought them, Margine.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Because I don't want them. I don't want them never
be a lobbyist, because I don't want them to leave Congress,
become a lobbyist, and then go lobby their friends. No.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yeah, I'm just trying. I'm just trying to get one
step at a time here. I think the on stock
trading is more cheapble than a band.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
No, no, no, I don't disagree that it's more achievable.
I'm just saying, of the things I want, you should
not also be able to be a lobbyist, because it's
just a back door to that shit. Anyway, thanks.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
So so again. Lots lots of people got really fucking
rich on Friday, and knowing, knowing Trump, Honestly, this might
have just been the fucking plan the whole time for
all we know. And honestly.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
It could have been. I don't think this is the
end of it.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
It's certainly not the fucking it. They'll they'll keep doing
this again, especially if no one fucking checks them. They
will just do this over and over again. You might
in ninety days. You might see the same fucking thing
in ninety days, and we'll be like, oh, tears are
back on market. Takes a ship. Let's wait a week
by the dip. Oh, we're gonna We're gonna postpone the
tears again. They could if nobody stops them from doing it,
they can just keep doing it over and over and

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over again.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
And because because they because they know, they know how
predictable the markets are. And meanwhile, the rest of us,
the normal folks, get just get fucked yep, because it
fucks with right, focks their jobs, fucks with the you know,
the companies we work for. And they don't care because
again we're just pieces on the board to them.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
No, they don't care. Hey, let me read Can I
read something to you? Sure? I think it's uh. I'll
read this to you and then you I'd like to
get your opinion on it. Quote. We are convinced that
increased protective duties would be a mistake. The existing tariffs
already provide adequate protection for practically every industry in many

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instances the amounts of prohibition. America is now facing a
problem of exporting or parashing. It is therefore folly to
suppose that we can increase our prosperity by shutting off
imports such as a policy. Such a policy is bound
to invite retaliation and to reduce the sale of American
products abroad. We are opposed to the pending Tariff Bill

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the pending tariffs for the following reasons. One because of
our export trade is essential to our prosperity and highly
protective terrorfs threaten our foreign markets. Number two because such
terriffs will raise the cost of living and injure the
great majority of our citizens. Three because under present conditions,

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they will raise prices of many products important to our farmers.
Number four because they will make it more difficult for
foreign countries to pay their debts to us and to
buy our goods. Number five because they will make it
more difficult for our country to maintain a reasonable standard
of living and attain the highest possible industrial development. We
therefore urge our government to withhold enactment of these drastic

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increases and rates, and to adopt a procedure which will
afford ample opportunity for consideration of the interests of all
affected parties. What do you think of that? That letter
does sound reasonable to you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I mean yeah, I mean well so, And we've talked
about this before, but I think it's worth reiterating. It's
tariffs in a vacuum in and of themselves are not
a bad thing. Like, if you have a specific industry
in this country that you are trying to stand up
and you are trying to make a player, then it
absolutely makes sense to laser target tariffs on that specific industry.

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So so a great example is semiconductors. So Biden and
then signed the Chips Act, which which I think Trump's
Trump trying to is trying to walk away from, which
doesn't make sense to me if you're trying to increase manufacturing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
But okay, like all right, but regardless, So let's say
the Chips Act takes place, right and over the next
five to ten years, a lot of companies who who
make silicon build up manufacturing factories and and you know,
increase American manufacturing that and makes us a player in

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that space.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
That's the point where it makes sense to implement tariffs
on semiconductors and say, hey, we have a burgeoning semiconductor
industry here in America. We want you to buy American semiconductors. Therefore,
we're going to place a tariff on the semiconductors that
come in from China. That makes sense. That's how you
invent teris. You don't fucking put the cart before the horse,
and you don't do it on a widespread basis because again,

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as we talked about last week, the industries that Republicans
are desperate ticket back in this country are gone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
They're they're gone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And they're not coming back, and you don't want them
back because they're industries that are low paying, low skill,
and backbreaking, and it's not something you should want for
your country. We have developed past those industries as a nation,
like fucking Howard letting out here talk about like, oh,
we're going to create the factory so that people, you know,
our American workers will put the little screws in on

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the iPhones. Why the fuck would you want that? Why
the fuck would you want that industry? Nobody wants to
wort that trying to do that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
They have the nets outside of those buildings because people
try to jump out, okay and kill themselves like that's
quite literally a real thing. Right. By the way, I
just like to point out, Brad on the gotcha of
that letter I read to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
With Chuck Grassley is Chuck Rassley letter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
No, No, Brad. That was that, Interestingly enough, was a
letter signed by oneenty twenty eight economists in May on
May fifth, nineteen thirty, when they opposed the when they
wrote that to President Hoover opposing the Smooth Hally terror fact.
So if that shit sounded reasonable to you, it's because

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they're making the same motherfucking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Things and weird nineteen thirty right after the Great Depression, Uh,
something happens like like like someone came into office in
nineteen thirty three and helped create a federal income tax
and negated the need to make all of our money

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from tariffs. And that's maybe why we haven't fucking worried
about this shit forever or whatever. Again, like it's it
just cost citizens money, that's all it's fucking gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Look, I gotta tell you, there is part of me
there There is a small part of me that I
like to keep dormant in these conversations. There's a very
small part of me that that really bothers me that
it exists, but I cannot ignore it, Brad, my brain
refuses to ignore it. If he's Hoover, mhm, who the fuck?

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Who the fuck is FDR?

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Is that what we're going through? Is this the nightmare
scenario that we have to go through to finally get
somebody who is worthy of picking up that fucking mantle?
And I don't like to think about it because it's
so fucking RB. I don't want to think about it,
Like I don't want to think about it because of
all of the fucking shit that you're gonna have to
go through to potentially get there. And Hoover sucked, but

(01:04:22):
he wasn't fucking Hitler, like you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
not doing the Hitler shit. So it's like, but who's
the FDR? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
I mean the person I mean, I mean look at it, And.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
We have to fucking rally as a country because of
the dog shit situation we've been put in.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
And look easy for me to say, easy for me
to say, and I and I'm really not trying to
be flipping about this because I truly do feel for
people that are going to suffer and go through it
in this time. But if if that's what's on the
other side of this, if we get twenty first century.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
FDR good God, then you know it's not work.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
I can, I can. I could be miserable for three years,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
So I'll come back and live there for fucking three years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
The socialist utopia that awaits us on on the other
side of twenty twenty eight jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Whoa, we're doing it? Maybe, look I mean, but that's
that's the weird silver lining. I try not to think
about because I don't want to get people this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Because because you can't, because because because it's as to quote,
to quote many Brooklyn Nights from the forties and fifties,
it's the hope that kills you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
So yeah, yeah it is. And so I don't I
don't know that that is going to happen. But I
do know this. Americans hate hate when the economy is bad,
and they react in strong fucking wayte they do they
just do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I have I have a silver lining for you, Jay,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
That. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
The tech industry, who donated billions or millions of dollars
to the Trump inauguration realized they were getting a raw deal.
I'm assuming got really pissed because they have. The Trump
administration also last week carved out an exception on the
tariffs ye for smartphones and PCs, or so we think,

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because the because they're they're messaging around this has been
completely inconsistent to them saying, hey, Ray, we're carving out
the inception. And then Howard Bloody went on TV on
Sunday and was like, no, this is not a permanent exemption.
And then Trump came out today and said there is
no exception, So what the fuck? What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I mean, it really looks like he goes to the
comment sections like they're calling me a bitch, and he
just goes on his fucking computer or his phone. He's like,
I'm not a bitch. There are no exceptions. You're like, okay,
think it's weird. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
I have a feeling that when people were like, you
know what, an iPhone is gonna cost thirty five hundred
dollars and he was like, all right, that is that bad,

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because you know I have money. That's really fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
People are gonna get pissed. It's one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
It's one iPhone, Michael, what can it cost? Thirty five
hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, he really, he really comments her too, just nakedly
corrupt and really out of touch. He is the he
is uh, he is the lucile and lucile one, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
And and the best, the best part of this, of
the whole terror situation, is that the terrorists went into
place last Wednesday and the customs weren't even collecting them
because they they because they weren't set up functionally to
be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Yeah. I saw that story. I was like, you know,
not only are they evil, they're also unbelievably incompetent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
That I mean, if anything's gonna save us, that that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
It's just unbelievably incompetent.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah. The fact that they the fact that they're the
stupidest people trying to do what it takes a really
smart person to be able to effectively execute.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Look maybe this guy in Maryland. Uh, they ship just
got a Tahiti like who knows, right, Oh, sorry, I'm bad,
Like they have no idea, Like they're fucking idiots, right,
Uh he is in that job, by the way. That's
just to be quite serious about it. Yeah, they didn't
even collect the terrors because I don't know, man, they're

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just really really dumb. It's just really really fucking numb.
Let's take a quick break and come right back, all right.
Next up, just real quick. Harvard University stands up to
Trump and they lose two point two billion dollars in
funding from the federal government because of it. Um or

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excuse me, nine billion dollars. I apologize. So basically, the
Harvard universe was like, look, kick Rocks, we're not doing
We're not We're not going to fall into these fucking
bullshit demands that you're asking. Because Trump has done that
with Columbia University and a number of other universities. He's

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attacked him quite directly, and he came for Harvard and
he was like, look, you need to get rid of
your your DEI ship, you need to you need to
start doing merit based you need to like all this
other shit. And they were just like, no, fuck off.
And you know what, I love it, Uh the president

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the President.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
I think I think they'll be okay. I think go
shake down some alumni if you if you're really hard
of for the king.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I'm sure they're indowminus is quite high, right, Gabe Garber,
who is the president of Harvard, said, quote, the administration's
prescription goes beyond the power of the federal government. It
violates Harvard's First Amendment rights and exceeds the statutory limits
of the government's authority under Title UH six, And it
threatens our values as a private institution devoted to the pursuit, production,

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and dissemination of knowledge. No government, regardless of which party
is in power, should dictate what private industries can teach,
whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of
study and inquiry they can pursue. I I ninety nine
point nine nine percent agree with that. My only note

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is whom they can admit and hire. That feels like
an excuse to to admit a bunch of students or
disregard a bunch of students who probably should have been admitted.
But I get his sentiment right, Harvard doesn't have the
best track record on shit like that or hiring. But
that has not That's like the opposite of what DEI

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is right. And look, maybe they're trying to do better,
so good for them. I'll conceive that. But no, he's right.
There is no reason for universities to bend the knee.
And the only reason why places like Columbia Benthony is
because of these this federal funding. Here's an idea, maybe
they don't. They don't take federal funding at all from

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now on. So now you're never going to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Be quite quite frankly, I don't understand why private they
should universities need to take federal funding.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
They shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Yeah, I agree, I'm I'm sure tuition at Harvard should
keep them totally fine.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
On flush with cash flush. Yeah. So, I mean, I
know Harvard does a lot of research, right like they
have like I mean, they had quite literally said that
you know, this federal funding, uh withholding is going to
stop some life service saving research they do like that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Okay, that's that's a little different. Yeah, like like like
if you're actually getting federal grants for research and stuff
like that, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Yeah, so I get that. But at the same time,
if it helps you to get from under the boot
of a fascist state, you take the hit, go down swinging,
just take the hit. And I look, I look, I'm
sure I would have many issues with things that Harvard
has done, uh now and in the past, but credit

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where credits do this is how you stand up Columbia,
the person who is ahead of Columbia. You're a fucking coward.
You are You're a fucking coward, and you're going to
uh and Hopkins too. By the way, like Hopkins is
one they literally told their students, we cannot protect you.
The vast majority of your students are fucking not white.

(01:12:34):
I know this because my nephew graduated from there and
I went to your graduation. All of the names, there
wasn't a fucking white name on that list.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
I mean, look, if Hopkins, if Hopkins wants to cease
being the destination fucking college for for metal, dude, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Dumb dummies, what are you fucking doing. We can't protect you.
You better fucking protect them. You better protect them. You
know how many kids around the world to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Go there, because again, there will be a school that
says we will protect you. And that's gonna be, all
of a sudden, the school where all the fucking smart
kids want to go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Yeah, especially the kids from overseas. Like the amount of
talent you're going to lose, the brain, the brain drain
that you're going to create because of your cowardice is
fucking and not.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
And not just students, right, your staff, that'll be like,
I'm not fucking putting up with this ship. Get the
fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Fu awo. So shout out to Harvard University. What a
weird thing for me to say out loud, But good job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
All right, we read on that so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Super weird. This episode sponsored by Harvard University. All right,
let's move into fast corruption and faster screw ups. Look,
I hadn't seen this story a clip of this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I hadn't either.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, a clip of this popped up for me this week.
This happened about three weeks ago, but I think it's
worth noting. So Mike Johnson, who would Speaker of the House,
and also you know, the spokesman for checking on your
kid's porn and having your kid check on your porn,
He floats an idea of eliminating the federal courts as

(01:14:21):
Trump faces judicial pressure. Right, this new thing with Republicans
is woe is Trump, because federal judges are doing their
jobs by pushing back and saying, hey man, you can't
just break the fucking laws like we're gonna stand in
your way, We're gonna do injunctions, we're gonna we're gonna
push back. So Mike Johnson's response is, Hey, you do

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know that Congress has the power to get rid of
court districts, right, we control that. So we're gonna look
into that. Look look forward to that in the next
coming weeks. Republicans do not believe in democracy. They don't. Now,

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if you're a Republican voter and you're like, I believe
in democracy, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to
I'm talking to the people you vote in.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
I'm about to say expensively, I guess if you vote,
if you vote for these people, then you then again,
actions speak louder than words. My guy, like, we're just
gonna get rid of districts.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
This is the threat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
And I love, by the way, I love I love
the response to this from the Senate because Josh Holly
is quoted in this and this and this is uh
accidental tru his telling like, like, as as we like
to say shoot comments that aren't have to be shoot comments.
He said that would be a bad idea because it
would create more judicial backlogs. And quote, my view is
I'd like to get more Republican judges on the bench.

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I thought we were just calling balls and strokes here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Yeah, I mean, look, at least you're being honest, dude, Like,
at least you being honestly. No, keep the districts. Just
load them up with a bunch of pieces of shit
Republicans US. That's how you know, That's how Dad did it,
That's how we do it. I want people to recognize something,
And and by people, I mean democrats. Stop being afraid. Right,

(01:16:18):
Two things I have learned in this administration over the
last couple of weeks. One imposter syndrome is fucking worthless,
and you should not have to, okay, because the amount
of unqualified buffoons that are in power under the Trump
administration is staggering. The other one is stop being afraid.

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Remember when Democrats are like, we don't want to talk
about judicial reform, maybe reforming the Supreme Court. We can't
talk about it, expanding the court, these motherfuckers are like,
why don't we just wipe out districts? Just we're not
doing zero to five miles power, it is zero to
one hundred. Immediately, just get rid of that whole district
because those judges are being a hindrance for what our

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guy wants to do. That's a it's a very fast They're.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Literally out here saying when when a judge rules against
what the administration wants to do, like, oh, like, no one,
no one elected these judges to make it, like to
make these decisions to rule against the executive branch. Bro,
they're a co eker branch government. They're interpreting the law.
That's what they're doing. That's what they're fucking there for. Yeah,
they have, they have, they have. They have just as
much power in the constitution as the president does. That's

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what co equal needs. The President's like I want to
do the execut branch, like I want to do this,
and the judge there saying, yeah, you can't do that
against it's against the constitution by least the law. Try again. Yeah,
you're supposed to care about those things if you're in Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, get out of here, Brad, where'd you
get your law degree? So it's remarkable that these guys
are just like, why don't we just get rid of
the just get rid of the districts. So if Democrats
ever get in power, I don't want to hear anything about
nervousness about expanding the court. Expanding the court.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Fucking, fucking pack packed, fuck span the court pack. It
add a couple districts. Again, like we like we should
have already. I mean again, if you if you paid
attention to how the federal judiciary worked prior to like
World War Two, that they would add districts, Like as
population grew, they're like, oh, we need more districts because

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we have more people that we need to adjudicate things for,
so we need to add more courts. Yeah, that's literally
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
And by the way, if I'm Democrats and I get
back into power, oh there's gonna be plenty of things
to adjudicate because you motherfuckers are going to prison. Okay, Like,
make no mistake, there are people who are going to prison.
Like I am not interested in the let's look forward,
No no, no, no, I want to look back. I
want to look back, and I'm reaching right in the

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past and I'm grabbing motherfuckers and bringing them the court.
Oh absolutely, state.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
And that and that, and that's gonna be And by
the way, that's like I think Bannon alluded to that,
like that's gonna be a rally and cry of them
is like, you know, if Democrats can they're gonna they're
gonna fucking They're gonna try to throw some jail, and
I'd be like Steve Bennet, stop, I only have so
much skin, Like it's too tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the
skin is too tight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
I can only get erect. The idea of throwing Steve
Bannon into a fucking prison with a process again makes
me joyful. Right, he's a treason, this piece of ship.
Oh we passed the hour mark.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Oh, well, well passed.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
I'm gonna make this episode. I'm gonna make this episode
for free. I was gonna say something really fucked up,
but I'm gonna make it for free. Oh yeah, you know, no, no, no, no,
that's fuck. I want to say.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Gotta gotta gotta gotta watch out for the federales.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Yeah, well, they ain't coming to a rest here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Hey hey, shine, Bob, you want another fucking twenty five
percent tariff? Oh no, go arrest this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Oh man, come on, what did I do? I'm a
nice person that would be fucked up I get arrested here? Like,
what the fuck? Dude? How all right? Next up? In? Uh? Fast? Corruption? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
I don't know. Oh, I think it just came out
as we recorded our last episode and we and we
somehow missed it. So Laura Lumer uh swung by the
White House a couple of weeks ago for an in
person meeting with Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Oh oh he okay, and I'll say it. Did he
miss his blow jobs from uh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
It seemed like she had, uh, she had some business
to take care of it. I don't, and I don't
mean that kind of business that you're referring to. So
she she she shows up there and they're like, oh, like,
what are you meeting now? And she's like, I don't
worry about it. We don't worry about it. When she leaves,
uh Jener Timothy Hall, the head of the NSA, and

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his civilian deputy, Wendy Noble, were fired by Donald Trump
and removed from their positions. And the reason why, reportedly
is that Laura Lumer recommended that he fired them because
they were insufficiently loyal to Trump, because they were appointed

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by Mark Milly, the former Joint chief who Trump fucking hates,
and and because Laura Lumer, the crazy person who once
changed herself to the door of Twitter to get her
account unblocked.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Not the craziest thing she's ever done.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Not the craziest thing she's ever done is now making
national security recommendations to the president and he's listening to them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Yeah. I think it's the second part that's the real
that's the real problem. Like, oh, a crazy person says
something cool, Uh, set face or to ignore. No, No,
this guy's like no, that all right, She's fucking smart.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Trump acknowledge this in the wake of the in the
wake of the press and the wake of this happening,
the press asked about it, and he said, quote, she
makes recommendations, and sometimes I listen to those recommendations. I
listen to everybody, and then I make a decision. Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Uh, this this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Fucking rules I love. I love again. Not enough is
made of the fact that Donald Trump is a brain
addled moron and he he he is what Republicans accused
Joe Biden of being. He is, he is that person,
and it is really cool that he's running the fucking country.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
It's also cool that, like fucking rocks, he keeps taking
cognitive tests.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
And from my understanding, they don't give you cognitive tests
to see if you'll pass it. They give it to
you as a confirm.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Yeah, he's bright, he's he's bragging He's like, I answer
her every question correctly. I'm like, that's good that you did,
because if you didn't, that would be that would be
a series fucking problem.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
By the way, you're also a liar, so who cares. Yeah,
I don't believe you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
We also got we also got our annual Trump in office.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
He weighs two hundred and thirty four pounds confirmation just as.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Well the morbidly obese fucking category, right right. Uh. He
also he also is apparently having like a five hour
medical exam.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Oh no, no, no, the physical Apparently the physical slash cognitive
test took five hours. He apparently has to go in
free follow up kolonoscovi. We can we can only hope
that the that the Hamburger from Heaven has finally done
its job.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Hashtag pray for Turbo cancer. I hope he does.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Actually Actually, the funny, the funniest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
That could happen to him, him dying of gass cancer
would be no, no, no, no no no no no no
no no no no no that that that's not it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
That's not it. The funniest thing the cabinet would be
Hi dying abus. That would be the funniest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Yeah, that would be pretty good. Robert F. Kennedy's like,
sorry about that. That didn't I can I be president? No,
shut up, No, I hope he does quite seriously. But tomorrow, Yeah, tonight,
breaking news like.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Will keep going for hours, so you get Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
I would do the obnoxious thing that you don't do
on the podcast. I would just underbed the entire episode
with just happy music. Guys. That would be my thing.
People would hate me, but it would be fine. You'd
all understand. No, I have no I have no compunction
to be nice. I hope that he dies. I do
like sooner rather than later. By any means. I just

(01:24:59):
don't care. The guy is an awful fucking human being.
All right, TikTok the TikTok ban has been kicked down
the road again because laws don't matter anymore. Okay, I
have I have turned my brain completely off of this
whole TikTok band thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
It's it's fine because I'm because I'm in on it.
So yeah again, I I I have to back up
and just remind people the situation here. During the Biden administration,
Congress passed the law that says if a sale of
TikTok is not made to a US company, and the
Chinese government and byte Edance, who was you know who's

(01:25:37):
owned by the Chinese government, has not completely divested themselves
from TikTok by this date. Then the then it will
be taken down from US app stores under penal, under
some penalty to the app store of providers like like
like the the enforcement is on like Apple and Google
and not not TikTok themselves. So Trump gets in and

(01:25:57):
Trump's like, I'm gonna postpone this. You can't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
The kids will love me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Right, And here's the problem, and this was under discussed
even by US at the time. Executive orders aren't laws.
Executive orders can't supersede laws. That's not how that works. Again,
if we had a function in Congress that actually did
their job, they could sue. The executive branch'd be like, no, like,
you can't do this, Like this is the law. You

(01:26:25):
can either follow the law or you can have US
pass a law to repeal that law. But you can't
just sign an executive order and say this is going
to be postponed. But Trump postpones it for seventy five days.
That deadline came up last week, and he said, I'm
postponing it again for seventy five days. I have to

(01:26:46):
again remind people that there is a law that says
this is going to be what's happening. You can't just
suspend that with the executive order. Now the deal OJA
can decline to like prosecute Apple and Google if they
decide to keep offering this app in violation of the law,
which is what they said they were going to do.

(01:27:07):
If your Apple and Google, I don't know that I'd
want that sort of damnicles hanging over my fucking head.
So that if you cross Trump the right, you know,
the wrong way, that he's you know, then instructs the
dj to enforce that law on you that you've been
in violation of for the past three months now. By
my estimation, that's not a great idea. However, I did

(01:27:28):
hear an opinion I can't remember from whom, and it's
actually quite genius now that I thought about it. Jay,
do you know how China could probably end this whole
tariff fiasco with the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Just be like, hey, you're going to remove those terraffs
or we're going to turn off TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
You think that what mattered to Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Yes, if it matters enough for him to keep postponing
banning the app in the United States, then it would
matter enough for him to risk losing people be pissed
off like his his voters would be pissed off if
they lost access to TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
No, I don't think. I don't no people he explain
to them that it's a there's a little bit of
a little bit of pain, we're rolling out fucking Trump
talk or whatever, fucking horseship like go on dances. I
don't think they would care. I think he could convince

(01:28:32):
them not to care. I do. I mean, young people
are already pretty piss at him. I think him killing
TikTok permanently is just kind of inevitable at a certain point.
I think it's just one of those things where he's
just kind of keeping these people on a like on
a lead. But I don't I don't think this means
anything to him. I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Like I said, I I feel like that there's a
bit of leverage that could be had there in some way,
shape or form. Also, Chinese China could just refuse to
negotiate with any American buyer who wants to even do
this stuff, and and and actually and actually they they
even alluded to that, essentially, like the Chinese government basically

(01:29:17):
said that they wouldn't prove any arrangement without negotiations about
trade as well. So so so, But again, lalls don't matter,
So I guess it doesn't really fucking make a difference
if the DJ is gonna be like, hey, we're not
going to prosecute apps or providers for offering the app.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Yeah, it is what it is. All Right, Well, there
you go. I'm going to read this article later. But
here's an article I had not seen. This came out
in February of this year. The oligarchs who came who
came to regret supporting Hitler. They helped him pursue They
helped him in his pursuit of profit. Many of them

(01:29:57):
ended up in concentration camps. Okay, again mirroring times here,
Guys like you want to support.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
It's it's it's it's it's it's almost like money shouldn't
be the primary motivator for that drive your actions as
a person.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna kiss ass until until you cross
him in the wrong way, and you can end up
Mark Zuckerberg on a fucking on a one way trip
to the fucking Gulag. I'm an American citizen. I don't care,
Like they just take your money, send your ass on.
What are you gonna do then, probably if you're in

(01:30:34):
business musk mm hmm. I'm play a little tight because
you're kind of annoying. You kind of don't get social
cues very well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Yeah, but he can't. But that's the thing, he can't
help himself.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
I don't give a sure.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
That's just that's that's just that's just who that dude is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Yeah, I know, And you're gonna end up fucking in
a Gulag man, which, by the way, I'm not I'm
not mad to see like I'd be like, all right,
I'm gonna have a hard time getting really pissed off
when they announced those those those Gulog flights. Well, I'll
tell I'll tell you what, if I end up in
the same Gulog as him, you will be sure to

(01:31:14):
give him the the full metal jacket, like like I'll
fucking put some bars of so open side of a
fucking sack and just beat the ship out of him.
You and all your votos that are down there. Yeah,
you'll do well, Brad. You a white boy from Baltimore,
fucking El Salvador in prison.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Hey, I've got this beard. I could, I can, I
can pull it off.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
No, they shave, They shave your fucking face and head. Yeah,
day one, baby, like this a rap for you can't
have a unique look. That's how slave labor works. So
this story I put on. Look, this story is just
this is just one of those stories gonna make you mad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Sorry, but yeah, I heard, I heard you. I think
you shared this video with me. My reaction to this
was I was shocked to learn that Jerry rig Everything
was an expert on agriculture in the United States. Agriculture.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Yeah, it turns out, turns out the more you know,
the fucking wild. It's a wild account. But so from
nineteen excuse me, from eighteen sixty two until nineteen twenty three,
US senators and members of Congress provided vast numbers of
seeds to constituents. At its peak, the Congressional Seed Distribution
Program delivered over sixty million seed packets directly to farmers

(01:32:33):
and market gardeners every year, helping introduce new varieties of
everything from wheat and corn to oats, soybeans, flowers, and vegetables.
A century later, far fewer Americans still the soil for
a living, but the seeds remained central to our lives.
So there is in fact a sort of central seed repository, right,

(01:32:57):
that holds seeds for all sorts of things that are
grown in America. Now, these seeds can be used in
case there is massive crop like go away for some
natural disasters or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Then they lose strains of crop that exactly know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
You know, you know, climate change or whatever. They would
have these seeds. And they have all of these seeds
from all sorts of varieties of things that are grown fruits, vegetables, flowers,
that sort of thing, right, and they keep them because
of sort of this potential apocalyptic kind of situation. Right,
sounds like a good idea. Well, it's a sorry to say.

(01:33:42):
This is a diverse seed organization, right, This is a
part of the federal government. And because they have a
diversity of seeds, right, because there are many different types
of seeds, that's why you would use that word. Those
decided let's cut the funding to this, and so the

(01:34:04):
vast reserve of the diverse seeds for the country in
case of famine or natural disasters are now in peril
because a bunch of nineteen year old hackers did a
keyword search and are trying to fucking destroy the country
because they're too goddamn stupid to know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
By the way, side, note about DOGE. Remember how they
said that they were going to save two trillion dollars
a year. Yeah, sorry, they dropped it. They just quietly
changed it on their website to making it one hundred
and fifty billion dollars a year in savings is what
they'll be able to do. Right. I thought the country
was so corrupt. I thought the government was so corrupt

(01:34:49):
you'd be able to find two trillion dollars of poorly run, inefficient,
corrupt savings that you'd be able to say this much funny,
turns out not fucking really also.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
And even then, even then it would be a net
negative because of all the cuts they made at the IRS,
we can now collect like half a trillion lesson in taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Right, and not to mention all of the things that
we're going to lose because you fired so many people, right, right,
But but.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
And the tax custom they want to ran through, which
means even less income coming.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
In negative to the country.

Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Let me let me, let me tell you something old on, I.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Want to add one lasting to the story. So they
quietly moved it from two trillion dollars a year in
savings down to one hundred and fifty billion dollars. Right
at the same time these are not related, but at
the same exact time, it came out that at this
point in the administration, comparative to this point in the

(01:35:45):
Biden administration, the Trump administration has spent one hundred and
fifty billion dollars. More so, the one hundred and fifty
billion dollars in savings. You didn't even get that because
you're spending more than when Biden was president in one quarter,
in one quarter, in one quarter, if you were so.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Since these assholes like to like to run the government
like a business. Hell yeah, right, like like they think, oh,
run the federal business. If you're a business owner and
you hired a consultant and that consultant told you, hey,
you do what I tell you to do. You follow
my methods. You you you follow this program that they're
gonna set up for you guys, and I'm going to

(01:36:25):
raise your revenues by twenty percent year over year, and
your revenues only go up by one point five percent
year every year. I'm pretty sure you're gonna fucking fire.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
That consultant that you're done, you're done, so ye.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
So so again, what we're doing, how we say it
all the time, like just because just because your risch
doesn't mean you're fucking smart. No, you know what is
smart having a fucking seed bank to make sure the
crops are protected in case of mass famine or environmental disaster.
I would never even think about doing something like that,
but the federal government did because there's really fucking smart

(01:37:10):
people that work in it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Yep. But like to me, it's really fucking telling that
with all their fucking blow hard nonsense, they really didn't
find any corruption. Of course, of course, you know that
should be, that should be you know why takeaway for it?

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
You know why? Because again, the the corruption finding department
in the federal government literally already existed. They're called the
Inspector General and they fired all of them when they
when they as soon as they got in d office.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
The reason they didn't find any is because we have
igs that do their fucking job and find it themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Yep. So when when you hear Republicans say, well they
found all this corruption, say where is it? Where is it?
Show me, show me where it is, because they'll.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Have all these people collecting soul. There's four year olds
collecting social Security. Yeah, those are four year olds that
are collecting the money that their dead parents put in.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Yeah, but idiots, right, So show us, show us where
the corruption is. What they cannot do is show that.
What we can point to is turns out the US
government pretty efficiently run. Turn like it turns out they
are like they like the wild thing from all of

(01:38:31):
this is actually the US government was actually doing pretty well.
Yeah is it perfect? No?

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Fuck, no, of course not.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
But they're not really actually interested in efficiency. They're just
interested in just kind of ripping out things to just
see how much damage they can do because they're working
for the Russians.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
In my opinion, I mean, I mean, as I've seen
many people say, if you were Russia and you designed
a like a sy op or a cyber op to
fucking destabilize the United States and craft the US economy
and all this other shit. What would you've done differently
than what the Trump administration has done? Nothing over these I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Mean, I told you, I literally put that into chat GPT.
I was like, if there was a person who was
kind of owned and operated by Vladimir Putin, who was
the president of the United States, what are things they
would do to destabilize the United States? And it was
almost a shot for shot exactly what the assholes doing.
I didn't say Donald Trump, I said at all. I

(01:39:35):
just said I like, I put it in there. It
gave all the response, and I said, Okay, now compare
look in the news and compare what Donald Trump is
doing to what the list you gave and match it up.
And they were like, a lot, this is really close. Yeah, Like, okay,
am I making it up? No, I'm not making it up.

(01:39:56):
You look, CHATCHPT is free. Go check it out, do it,
do it yourself. You have to believe me. All right,
what's dumber a brick or a Republican? Last story before
we get out of here, I titled this story for
stakes Linda McMahon. While being the worst seller of a

(01:40:17):
Stunner by stone Cold Steve Boston in the history of Time,
is also an idiot. Can you imagine being so rich
and out of touch that you don't know what AI is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
But you've never No, I can't, No, I can't because
AI is, like has been so pervasively the topic of
conversation in America or in the world really, but just
like especially in the US over the past couple of years,
it seems like it would be impossible to not know
what AI is least or at least know the term AI. Well,

(01:40:54):
at the very least, Like even if you don't know
what it is, you've at least heard of AI and
you know it's AI.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Yeah, well, Brad, maybe if you got a stunner and
you kind of slumped over when you when you were
trying to sell it, you would have brain damage too,
Like Lena McMahon. So, Lenna McMahon was on a panel
or something. She is, by the way, the Education Secretary
in case you were unaware. She's not just a pretty
face yuck. She recently made remarks mistakenly referring to AI

(01:41:26):
aka artificial intelligence as a one a number of times,
been speaking at the twenty twenty five as U GSV summit.
She she went up there and she says like, hey,
there AI is in development. How can we you know,
how can we educate at the speed of light if

(01:41:47):
we don't have the best technology around to do that?
She says, you know, elementary schools are going to start
introducing kids to A one, and you know, they just
got internet a couple of years ago, and they're like,
well that was a big deal, but now they're they
gonna have access to A one. And of course, the
the proper response from the A one Steak sauce people was, uh, yeah,

(01:42:09):
you're right, we gotta start kids early on A one.
It was hilarious, you know, she.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Kept she kept saying it, like like I heard audio
clip is saying it, and she kept saying it over
and over again.

Speaker 1 (01:42:21):
Because she really thinks that's what it does. Because she's done.
She's domb She's the education secretary and she got dunked
on by a steak sauce. I haven't had A one
in years.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
A one is delicious. I won't need it. I don't
need it on steak, but it is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
It is good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
It's it's a burger topping for me.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Oh that's sad. I like that idea.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Oh it's it's it's fucking bagging on on a on
a cheeseburger. Don't get it, don't get it twisted. I
said this on dense pixels. I'm gonna say it here.
If you're a one the Steak Sauce company, I'm doing
everything that I possibly can to become a sponsor of
w W. Right now, you got you gotta you gotta

(01:43:06):
capitalize on this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Yeah, now you do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
You gotta you gotta like.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
You gotta have like somebody come out dress as an
a one steak sauce, do a splash on Roman reigns
or some shit. This is this is monumentally stupid. Again,
I need everyone to understand this. Having imposter syndrome is
fucking useless.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Okay, just it's it's for fucking losers at this point,
because all you have to do is look look at
the current government and be like, oh, ship, you know
what I.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Can do it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Yeah I don't. I don't even need to be educated
to be the education secretary. I don't. Who cares he
wants to take sauce baby all day, all day. Yeah,
shout out to you, Brett. That's a good idea. An
won't take sauce on a burger like that. Yeah, I'm
I'm a bit of a I'm a bit of a snob.

(01:44:01):
I like to have I like to have h gray
poupon on a on a on a bron. That's that's my,
that's my.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Who the fuck are you?

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Yeah? Yeah, that's great. Pupon is amazing, by the way,
shout out to shout out to that it's got white
wine and come on delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
I used to believe that it was on like a
I'll funk with grape papon on like a turkey sandwich.
But not not like a burger.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
No, no, dude, on a bron not a hot dog,
you fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
Regular. I'm eating a spicy brown.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
Pause, Brad, you can't. You can't say spicy brown and
just let us that's crazy. I added, I had it, Bustard,
it was a little the gap in time was it was?
It was that's a that's a wild fad, all right?
Is it for us? With a one on a hamburger?

(01:45:03):
If you've had a one on a hamburger? Can you
confirm that Brad is correct? If you have not had
a great poupon on a brought to yourself a favorite,
fucking grow up god, damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
I'll try it, but I'm gonna be disappointed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
You're not. I'm telling you you're not. You know, you
know it's too good. It's too good. All right, that's
it for us, guys. Look, take care of yourselves. Be
safe out there, especially if you go into these protests.
I mean, quite seriously. I don't care if you're an
American citizen or you've got a Green card or anything
in between. Be safe, please please. I don't need to

(01:45:37):
hear about anybody getting black backed. I don't want anyone
to have that happen to them, and I certainly don't
want it to happen to any of our listeners, all
seven of them. So all right, we will see you
guys next week for another one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
See you

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