June 9, 2025 • 60 mins
This week on Look Forward, the guys return (sorry about Jay's voice because of illness) to talk about the world's most predictable breakup between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, Stephen Miller and Musk have a bit of a cucked-up situation, Ukraine pulls off not just a innovative attack on Russia but just genuine cool as hell and its likely an indicator of what new era guerilla warfare looks like, anti-Semitic attack in Colorado helps to continuously feed the destructive narratives in and out of Gaza, Trump org continues its bitcoin heist in the open, FBI focused on an absolute nonsensical issue instead of what's its tasked to actually do, and much more!
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- Ukraine executes major attack against Russia; wisely keeps WH out of the loop
- Anti-semetic attack in Colorado underlines the need to separate the people from the government
- Trump media company buying $2.5 billion in currency Trump has a direct hand in regulating
- SEC drops lawsuit against Binance
- State Dept might be getting a fancy new office to manage white ethnostate goal
- Boy, I’m sure terrorists and extremists are glad the FBI is choosing to deploy some of their limited resources on this
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.
Look how excited are you for this episode?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Brad? Holy shit? Let me tell you about Let me
tell you about today, right, let me tell you about today.
So I woke up, I woke up this morning. My
switch to on my doorstep. As soon as I get
out of bed, it's there waiting for me. Fantastic great
starts of the day. We're loving it. I went to Duncan.
(00:52):
They didn't have the orange vanilla donut, which is like
the special donut right now. They said, what do you
want instead? I said, I'll take a blueberry. What They
gave me two blueberries extra doughnut because they didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The day was written in stone for you like this.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, like like like like we're off to a great start. Uh.
The Orioles in the midst of turning around the season
on a six game winning streak. Okay, happened today? Summer
game fests starting tomorrow, the thing the new E three
and then what do I get this evening but the
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caddious to grow the two of the richest most powerful
men in the world. Ah cat fighting yeah, like for
each other apart.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Two megalomaniacs trying to kill each other for our enjoyment. Yeah,
look i am, I'm loving it. Uh, this is this
is great. We're gonna get into it. Look, when we
planned sorry for my voice, I'm getting over being sick.
When we plan this episode, when we were you know,
(01:58):
kind of working through things, the Stephen Miller Elon Musk
story was the biggest story, and we're like, oh, it's
gonna be great. We get to make fun of this
disgusting throttle because ill like, that's awful in every way.
But somehow that's not the biggest story. No, but the
biggest story still involves Elon Musk. But look, this is
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a story that was written the day he got on
board with the whole mine.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, we were all already like like the
countdown was one from day one. There there was no
way that two of the most narcissistic, two of the
most thin skinned, two of the most arrogant people on earth,
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could he could coexist working side by side with one another.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, it is impossible. Also, to Trump's credit, he said that,
you know, for some reason, a lot of people who
leave his administration and they they just get they just
get angry and they just you know, they lash out
at at you know, me and my administration. I don't
know why. Get that's a tell, bro that everyone heats
(03:11):
your guts after they start working for you. It's not
a it's he knowes. Oh it's maybe it's a Trump
arrangement syndrome. No, it's because you're a horrible boss and
everyone hates your fucking guts.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, it's because it's because you are deranged.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, Trump is deranged syndrome I think is more Yeah,
yeah it is. Excuse me, this blow up is amazing, right,
So this basically they they kind of started sniping at
each other, or must start at sniping at Republicans because
of the one big beautiful bill like that that was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So well remember so like when we were originally plotting
this EPISODEWN, we're actually a couple of days late from
when we originally planned and record, which has turned out
to be very fortuitous for us. The the the the
news story around Elon Musk was, hey, he's leaving DOGE,
but is he actually like it's not one hundred percent clear,
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but he at least he at least and and the
government is at least aware that having him as the
public face of DOGE is causing harm not only to
the government but also to Elon Musk and his personal
personal finances. So like it was very it was very ambiguous,
like what's going on here exactly? I don't think it's
very ambiguous anymore about whether or not stay in the government,
(04:28):
right And and you're correct, like this really did pick
up steam when Elon Musk, after leaving UH this earlier
this week, went on x or Twitter, whatever the fuck
you want to call it doesn't really matter. And and
to your point, said, hey, like this this bill, like
like like the one big beautiful bill that you know,
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passed to the House and is now currently being uh
discussed in the Senate, it's terrible, like like it balloons
the the deficit, Like it completely goes against what Trump
is saying. He's right, by the way, like that's that's
That's the funny thing is when is when Trump and
whoever Trump is fighting with start sniping at each other weirdly,
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like the bullshit veneer tends to drop and all of
a sudden, like the hard hitting truth bombs start coming out.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Like these guys are well aware that this ship is garbage.
Trump is garbage, but he gets a bunch of draconian
bullshit passed as well, right, like you know, this whole
idea of like, oh, lowering the budgets and everything else,
they have no desire to do that, like none, zero, right,
so so and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
They never have, by the way, again, like if you
look at you know again Sintragan, when the budget explodes,
when when morgants added to the national debt, it's when
Republicans are in charge, that's correct. They they have, They
have added the majority of debt to the country since
since the nineteen eighties. So now that now that probably
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pissed Trump off. The under reported part about this the
people that the thing that people are kind of glossing
over today is when Elon must set a couple of
days ago actually things yesterday he went on Twitter again
and this is what I really dissed off Donald Trump
is when he said was when Elon must say, Hey,
if it wasn't for me, Republicans would have lost the
election and they'd have like a fifty one forty nine
(06:21):
advantage in the Senate right now, basically like hey, like
I delivered the Republican government, So you should do what
I say because I spent all this money and if
not for me, you'd be losers. Right now, I should
be the president, but I can't be the president, so
I want to be the shadow president. Is the subtext
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behind that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, well, and also like pay fealty to me, right, like,
I mean, you know that's sort of thing. Well, and
that way even further today when he when he basically
posts out like hey, like Republicans should really be thinking
long term about this shit, like why like who you
get it back? Like the guy who's only gonna be
president for the next three to a half years or
(07:04):
or me the guy who's gonna be alive for the
next forty years. Whether that's true or not really debatable
considering you know, one of the later stories that we
have on the docket. But you know, he's basically saying like, hey,
I'm actually the power broker, which again is like a
weirdly gross like cards on the table admission from him. Yeah, no,
it is, I mean, like like.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Shoot shoot comments that aren't intended to be shoot.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Comments kind of kind of right exactly exactly, and it's
just it's it's one of those things where again, you know,
I don't know, I don't know if he'll be around
for forty years, like you're saying, like, I mean, just
keep doing drugs, bro, probably you got four tops yourself.
But at the same time, let's say drugs don't get him,
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he's likely maybe correct, right, like, you know, maybe twenty
thirty years at least. So that's not exactly wrong, but
it is a very callous thing to say considering who
you're who you're fighting with right now in this in
this fight between these two titans of industry, them destroying
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each other. Is I mean, let's be honest, who the
winner is in all of this? It's us, right, it is.
It is everyone watching this, right, or at least people
on the you know, center, to the to the left, right,
we are all enjoying the shit out of this. I'm
seeing Republican like voters being like, no, mommy, daddy, don't
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fight right, I'm like, you fucking clowns, get the fuck
out of here. This is awesome, shut up. But no,
I love it right because again, this was written the
second they joined forces, like one hundred percent. But the
other the other side of this is will this cause
a like a splinter inside MAGA. Probably not, because those
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guys are really hard lined with the cult. Though I
think he'll lose some of the tech bro kind of
people who probably were brought in by Musk into the
Trump sort of world, So I think he'll lose a
bit of that. But more importantly, Tesla is done as
a company. It's fucked because Musk. By joining up with
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Trump and doing all the things that he did, you
completely alienated your actual company base, which were mostly.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Liberals, like who's who's buying who's buying evs? Like the
people who are trying to fight climate change or the
people that try to tell you that climate change.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Isn't real exactly, like it doesn't make any sense. Right,
So you you've alienated your the vast majority of your
entire base. Like, if they own Tesla's now, the likelihood
that they buy another one is low, right, if they've
not already gotten rid of them, me being one of them. Right,
have you seen the retail value of Oh no, it's
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it's gone to dogship.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, it's cratered, like like literally went from like I
want to say, like like pre election, like sixty grand
for Model what a Model three year? Whatever? The fuck
you know whatever. It is probably a Model X, Model
X down to like twenty six thousand dollars. And I said,
I saw someone online try to spin it. It's like yll,
it's never it's never been more more affordable talking to
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buy a Tesla. I'm like, bro, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's not good. No, you're you're bad at the maths.
But okay. But so he alienated like liberals and Democrats
people who believe in climate change. You alienated, by all
accounts if you look at if you look at the sales,
you've alienated all of Europe, like Europe is like every
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European country, like sales are down like forty to sixty
seventy percent. It's insane. And now you've alienated MAGA folks because.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You're trying to at least because because US is arrogant,
arrogant enough to think that they will follow him. They
want like the pie paper, which is a dramatic and
gross misreading of.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Of like the MAGA base. Yeah, right of Republican politics.
They do. They're more likely to buy your cars and
set them on fire, considering the other boycotts that they've
done in the past. Sure you'll get your money, but
like they'll show you on social media because they're dumb.
So you've alienated MAGA, You've alienated liberals and people who
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actually believe in evs. You've alienated the second largest market
to sell your cars, which is Europe. You're not I
have to imagine. I haven't looked up the numbers that
I can't, but I can't imagine you do that big
in China because they have all fuck ton of evs
that are a hell of a lot cheaper than yours.
So what are you going to do as the CEO
(11:51):
of that company? I remember they just a year ago
or so Tesla sign that renewed that contract with Elon
Musk for like some ungodly amount of money. They gotta
be really kicking themselves in the ass because when that
that whole thing came up, I was like, don't sign
his contract. No, Like he's acting crazy. Now it's only
gonna get worse shocking news.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So maybe I don't know, man, maybe it's bad to have,
like for a business to like tie their brand to
the ebbs and flows of like one person I don't know,
doesn't feel like your great strategy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, there's a reason why the CEO is the most
replaceable person in most corporations, right, they just rotate that
chair man. But Tesla is like, no, but he's a
genius innovator. I mean he isn't. But if you even
believe that, what is all of these actions tell you,
like you just ignore you if.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If if nothing else, he what he's proven is that
he's he's the fucking music man essentially. Like that's that's
really all he is at the end of the day.
I mean, like it's it's a running joke. Now. He's
been talking about having like full self driving cars for
the last like eight years basically, and and and every
time he talks about it, Yeah, every time he talks
about it. So oh by the end of this year,
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by the end of this year, in the next two years,
every single time, every single time, and he hasn't delivered
on it. And again, at a normal company, that dude
would have been out on his ass four years ago.
But line kept going up because eb was a burgeoning
market and they had first mover advantage for a really
long time before the rest of the automotive space got
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their ship together and realized that, hey, like we should
probably be investing in this field, right, and then they
squatted it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah again, I don't understand why you would pay. I
have to find the amount that they that they signed
with Musk recently, like it was it was absolutely it
was absolutely ridiculous. But yeah, look I love it so
(14:01):
now so so now basically Trump is you know, Trump,
Trump and muster like tweeting back and forth, you know,
like the whole idea Elon must says, oh, you know,
the he'll only be around for three and a half years.
I'll be around for forty. Okay, Trump tweets the easiest
(14:22):
way to save money in our budget, billions and billions
of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
I was always surprised that Biden didn't do that, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then yeah, and then Musks responds to that, is like, hey,
you know why the administration hasn't released the Epstein re
word because Trump's in it? How did I stay which,
by the way, they were asked the White House. Uh,
they asked the White House about that, like, hey, is
what he's saying true? And the White House came back
with a rambling statement within which there was not a
(14:58):
denial that that was the case, because I think we
all know.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean he's on the list. I mean he like
before they got into the into office, he was on
the flight list.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Like that was right, and then uh and then like
right before we started recording tonight, Trump fires back by saying, hey, uh,
Elon Musk is constantly high on Kennedine, always making promises
he can't keep, not to be trusted. He wants to
go to Mars. How about you go back to Africa.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Look, that's fucking hilarious, Like, I'm sorry, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's funny telling Elon Musk to go back to Africa.
And I don't need him to do that. I don't
want him torturing those people. Now, that's fucking hysterical, Like
that's that's just a good time. That's just a good time. Again.
If I had my druthers and I can control history,
Donald Trump would have been a Joan Rivers style bitchy
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queen who like ripped on people's out fits on the
red carpet, because I feel like that's who he really
is and this whole politics and busy no, just just
making fun of people's clothing and just like be like, Oh,
that guy's a dick, but he's hilarious. That would have
been fine. That could have been his life and then
he died and then we would all have been like
I remember that time. That guy was a lot and
that would have been the end of it. But because
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he's doing serious work, it's a problem. But then he
comes out with these gems like telling Elon Musk to
go back to Africa, which is just fuck. I'm sorry,
by the way, yes, January of twenty twenty four, or
excuse me, July of twenty twenty four, just about a
year ago, Tesla did approve shareholders approved a fifty six
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billion dollar pay package for Elon Musk. Was it worth it?
Was it worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean? How much? How much share value did they
lose today as their stock braces down like forty five dollars? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was actually that was actually just what I was
going to google. How much share value have they lost
since July? I have twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh, you don't have to look at July twenty twenty
four again, just look at two day like it literally
has dropped like forty points today, wolf, which is which
is not great. Uh, if you are a Tesla stockholder.
But then again that's it's I mean, Tesla stock is
a mean price, I mean stock anyway, So anyone that's
holding that, I guess kind of get deserves what they get. Yeah,
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down forty seven to thirty five today, fourteen percent in
one day because because we're back and forth.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So that's approximately one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So so three three Elon musks they paid lost.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, they paid this guy fifty six billion and
he'd lost one hundred and fifty billion just today.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's down twenty three percent in the last six months,
if if you were curious about that, and twenty five
percent over the past year or year to date, sorry,
year to date. It's actually up over last year, pretty
pretty considerable ways. But if you're just looking at twenty
base basically, since Elon must stepped officially stepped into government,
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it has not been not been pretty for the stock praise.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, that's uh, that's not good. Oh wow. The most
significant drop in Tesla was today. Incidentally, since twenty twenty four,
Jesus Christ. Oh So, as of June fifth, twenty twenty five,
Tesla's market capitalization stands at approximately nine hundred and seventeen
billion dollars down from one point four trillion dollars in
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December of December thirty first of twenty twenty four. So
I hope it was worth it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Cool. I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So they're in this full, full on fight. And excuse me,
I want to play this clip from Steve Bannon. You
have not seen this clip.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, I haven't seen the clip. I know that just
of it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well, there's the thing that he says, which is fascinating
coming from him, really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So here you go.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The acts should that President Trump should be taking immediately.
I think when he threatens to should take one of
the big programs out of SpaceX. President Trump tonight should
sign an executive order UH calling for the Defense to
Production Act to be called in SpaceX and seize SpaceX
tonight before maybe US government should see it. If a
guy's gonna sit there and start making it quotes. Also,
(19:38):
as we Stuart Stevens talked back in January, I don't
know why we haven't had a full investigation. Look, if
you're going to deport illegal aliens, you got to deport
illegal aliens. The good go with the the you know,
the the goose and the gander. They got to go
back to this. As Stuart Stevens talk about and go
through everything about his immigration status. I happen to believe,
given the facts that I've been shown, that he's an
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illegal alien and illegal aliens gotta.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Be Yeah, illegal aliens have to be deported, as what
he was saying. So, yeah, if you caught that, we
should see Steve Bannon advocating for the state to seize
the needs of production exactly. Very very communist, Yeah, something
something I've been told Republicans are incredibly against.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Absolutely, Incidentally, I agree with Steve Bannon. I think it
would be fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Do you agree with it for different reasons? I wonder
you think it would be fun because it'll be funny,
just just for the humor value. I don't. I don't
know how you exactly could leverage the Defense Production Act
too to seize face acts considering we're not in an
actual you know, war right now.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But we're not in an actual invasion either, but they're
trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Make Yeah, I stretched true. I'm about to say, no
pun intended. Since we're talking about Steve Bannon. I'm sure
they can gin something up if they really needed to.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, very nice, good for you. Yeah, don't worry, guys,
I can fuck at this idea. But but yeah, it's
I love it. I love this. It's not even knifing
in the back, it's knifing in the chest.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, they're knife each other face to face. Like it's
it's as as as we said, like we we put
up with a lot of shit in the last six months.
We we deserve this. Like like like if you're sitting there, like,
who knows where this will end up? These these two
could end up kissing and making up next week for
all we know. It's like things are that wildly unpredictable
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in in the orbit in this administration. So like you,
you guys out there like that are listening to this,
just enjoy this regardless of what happens down the road.
Just just let it flow within you and just just
laugh because it's really really fucking funny. Today again, watch
something that we all knew that would happen happen as
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quickly as it has. Some people are shocked it lasted
this long, but you know, I guess they tried to
have you know, had to try to get some things done,
but also just again, once we once they got out
of the starting gate and just like they had their checklist, like, hey,
here's all the shit that we want to do, and
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they started doing it in like the most hapazard way possible.
We've now settled into like the cycle of incompetence in
in full swing, and we just get to see it
day in and day out now where these guys literally
have no clue what they're doing, how to do it,
and and and the other thing that's really funny about
this is I love the fact that like this is
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happening and both guys don't realize that this is such
a self own on both their parts. Bye bye bye
by nighting each other, Like Elon Wilson's out here, like
again insinuating that Donald Trump is a pedophile. Oh so
you're saying that, like you were cool throwing hundreds of
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millions of dollars and working side by side with the
guy that you knew as a pedophile. Like that's that's
something that that you're saying was cool. And to Donald
Trump's point, he is like, ah, Elon Musk is an idiot.
He breaks promises all the time, He's useless. You know,
we shouldn't invest in his companies. Dude, this is the
guy you specifically brought in to trim the FATA of
government to tell us that, you know, to fix it
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to the bloat in in in the federal company.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, it makes it absolutely no sense. Yeah, all right
from Elon Musk. Oh, by the way, I did just
see something before we move on the Lincoln projects, Rick
Wilson reports. A source inside the White House said an
oval office meaning about Elon Musk quote is completely off
the rails. And then an investigation into Musk visa overstay
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in the nineteen nineties maybe a way to revoke his citizenship.
Sources claimed Trump is adamant about deportation.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And by and by the way, like do has been
has been was verified by multiple outlets. It's not just
like a Rick Wilson thing. Literally I posted to you
and Andy, like basically the White House is angling to
make people choose between like which parent.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who you want to live with? Timmy, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
These are the most childish, fucking people in the entire world.
They are.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They are. Look the idea of them deporting Elon Musk,
Holy shit, I just imagine what the blowback would be
because there's got to be a sense I mean many
people have said this. I and I had the same thought.
How many tweets are we away from implications about election shit?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like sure? How many?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How many?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean many people think that he has something to
do with, you know, rigging it. I'm I'm of the
mindset that it is definitely possible, like go on one
ketamine vendor, dude, And it's like, is over baby, because
why why?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Why stop? Why stop it? At must getting deported and
and and must also putting out like election tampering ship.
What if Trump's like the sign executive order, Twitter's band
in the United States, fuck you?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh oh bro, I would go crazy. I would go crazy.
It would be amazing, Like he could he could just start.
I mean, this is the thing about having a dictator,
Like it's horrible, but sometimes it's kind of fun because
he has If he has a fight with a piece
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of shit, he's gonna do damage. And there's nothing must
money can do about this. There's nothing he can do
about it, nothing because Trump is insulated from all reason
and in normalcy, and all he has is a bunch
of yes men. If they're like, hell, yeah, bro, let's
do it. Let's do it. This guy's a foreigner. Let's
get him the funk.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He'll do it, he'll do it. Who's gonna be who's
in his administration to go? Hey, sir, this doesn't feel
like a great idea, No one great good do it.
If you don't do it, Donald Trump, you're a pussy.
That's all I'm saying. We know you were watching.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I think you should, dude. Deporting Elon Musk would be amazing.
Oh that would be m hm chef's kiss. I would
love it so good on them, more more, more please,
by all meats. I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.
So moving from that into uh the grossness. Apparently the
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rumor is that Stephen Miller a Kahana the Santa Monica
fascist him and his wife. I can't believe he's married
at all. They were in a thrupple with Elon Musk
(27:07):
and now his now Steven Miller's wife has gone off
with Elon Musk to like work with him, and the
rumor is to kind of be with him as well.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But also I mean again like like like the relationship
side of things that this is all just rumor in
Ininando just to be clear, she did lead. She she
was working alongside him at DOJE and has left the
administration to go follow him to basically be like not
his publicist, but she's like working like hand in hand
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alongside him at wherever whatever he's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, right, Trump's dance. But the the also, the part
of this rumor that's really weird is that Miller was
trying to use his wife as a honeypot in order
to control Musk. Look, fascism is wild, man, Like, it's
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really wild. I made this about this. I don't know
if it's true, but none of this surprises me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
If this is true, and I posted this in the discord,
but it's it's funny to me because it's one of
these weird like situations. There's a very famous wrestling story
where Kevin Sullivan, who was the booker in w c
W at the time, booked a feud between him and
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Chris Benoit, and he used like in storyline, had his
real life wife who was also with him on screen,
leave him for Benoit as part of the feud, and
then life imitated art in that situation. So, like, the
joke is that Kevin Sullivan booked his own divorce essentially,
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And that's and and if this Miller stuff is true,
like that's literally the exact same situation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh man, I'm gonna use it you as a honeypot. Okay, Oh,
turns out this is better over here. I guess maybe
the reports of Elon muss having a botched penis surgery
maybe not true. Who knows, But.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, I mean Katmuller literally on Twitter has like her
like her profile banner picture is literally like a SpaceX
rocket launch. No bullshit.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh or at least you think you think she'll change it.
You think she'll change it? Uh in light of this, uh,
this this feud, I bet not.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's a good question. Let me let me just open
up a private window here real quick, just to just
to take a look and see what it's at today,
just just out of curiosity. I mean, also like fueling.
Oh no, it's still the same picture. Yeah, and still there. Yeah,
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that's pretty funny. Also pretty funny like that. That's kind
of tying into this, like when Elon Musk showed up
in the White House to announce like, hey, I'm kind
of stepping back from doge sort of situation, had a
black eye, Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, his right eye. He said that was from his son.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, it was from his son. Not for nothing, Steven
Miller left handed. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I love it. I love all of this, Like can
I get this put all on a T shirt?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like yeah, I mean again, like I said, wonderful too.
But as as they, as the old saying goes, when
there's smoke, there's fire, like a lot of a lot
of coincidences adding up to uh to not necessarily be
you know, for for there to be no truth behind
behind the rumors here now.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
No look here, here's the thing like the that like
those sort of weird sexual lines and things like that
are also very hallmark of fascism too, right, Like the
idea of using women in as odd I mean you
can see it in the rights rhetoric, like the red
pill sort of world. That idea of like using women
as objects to like get what you want and shit
like that. That's all very real for them. So it
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would not surprise me that even she would volunteer to
do that, because that's how they think, like the ends
justify the means sort of thing. It's like, I mean,
can can a human woman even loves Stephen Miller. I
mean that one could ask that question, to be honest,
So it doesn't excuse me. It doesn't surprise me to
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hear hear about that. It's gross as fuck just imagining
anybody sleeping with either one of those two fucking weirdos.
But I'm glad it blew up in Steven Miller's face.
I think that's I think it's wonderful, and I'm glad
this other thing is blowing up Inlan's face. So everybody wins,
and by everyone, I mean us just just quick fucking
no notes.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So. Also reported as part of from the New York Times,
as part of this whole story, is that apparently Elon
Musk is on so much ketamine that he pisses himself.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Essentially, Yeah, he damaged ladder. Yeah I got banned. I
got banned for seven days on Reddit because I said, oh,
I guess I guess his busted bladder is going to
match his his rumored batched penis surgery, And apparently that
was calling for violence. I was like, I pitch on
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time after that. Huh yeah, I was like, all right, well,
and I'll say it again. I don't get a fuck fuck.
Then let's make any account. You can't stop me. So, yeah,
it's it's just wonderful. It's wonderful to watch these guys
pay exactly the prices they should be paid for. Now,
all right, let's uh Jesus Christ my voice, let's move
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into new gid. Here, you can start this story and
I'll fill in the details.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah. So, big news that happened late last week is
that in the as the UK and Ukraine Russian War
kind of goes on, a surprise drone attack from the
Ukrainians kind of decimated the Russian air force. They they
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they kind of pinpoint targeted several air bases that had
nuclear capable bombers and not and and the the other
big news like, not only did this attack take place
that was kept really secret until it happened, Apparently it
was so secret that they decided to keep the US
out of the loop in an operation that you might
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assume that they would give America heads up, But then again,
I guess they wanted to make sure that Russia didn't
get an advanced notice.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And look, I don't disagree with that. I wouldn't give it.
I wouldn't have called him. I wouldn't call the US either.
All right, So let me give some details about how
this worked. This is actually incredibly fucking clever. So what
they did was the Ukrainians basically like they have these,
like I think they cost about four thousand dollars US
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so they're like higher end sort of consumer drones, right Like,
these are not don't think of them as like US
predator drones, right, Like, they're not like they're like, ooh,
I'm going to buy one at like best Buy, right,
like a high end one. They're about four thousand dollars apiece.
And what they have been doing is they been attaching
thermite to them, which when you ignite thermite it causes fires. Right,
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So what they had been doing in the past is
they have been taking drones finding where like Russian tanks
are in like the woods in Russia and crashing these
drones connected with you know that are have thermite on them,
and lighting the forest on fire illuminated where the tanks are,
and then like bombing the tanks, right or just causing
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massive fires so that they have to deal with it, right,
and then basically allowing the Ukrainians to know exactly where
where they are, where the Russians are, So all that
being said, this particular move that they did was they
packed a bunch of drones into like not not quite
shipping containers, but like kind of like wooden shipping containers.
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And yeah, and they were and they you know, through
whatever intermediary that they you know, duped. We're like, hey,
this is just like this is like house house building materials, right,
Like it's just would for house building materials. And so
these truckers, unbeknownst to them, right, like they're not involved,
they pick up these they pick up these you know,
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these these wooden uh containers or what have you, and
they're driving them to their particular destinations. Well they get
a call. All of these different drives they get a
call and it's like, hey, extuallycu you just leave it here.
We're gonna have somebody, like a third party kind of
pick it up and take it the rest of their route,
which is apparently not uncommon, right, So they were like,
uh okay, yeah, sure. And where they had them stop
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because they were tracking them. Where they had them stop,
we're all near Russian military bases, right, So when they stopped,
they had it so that these crates are what have
you opened automatically and then a shit ton of drones
flew out of it, and all those drones went to
these military bases and then blew up all of these bombers. Right,
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they blew up forty forty bombers, which is like thirty
five percent of Russia's bombers period. Right, Like, they likeed
massive damage to their ability to basically bombish out of Ukraine.
And they did them with a bunch of four thousand
dollars drones. That's amazing. And like you said, they did
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not let the US know and Russia barely understood what
the fuck was going on, right, Like the report of
it was basically like I guess there were drones or whatever.
Holy shit. And basically Ukraine put out a message being like, yeah, no,
that was us, like we did that shit, You're welcome,
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which is dope. And then Ukraine also it's not in
this story, but Ukraine also bombed the bridge into Crimea,
which is kind of a big supply passed through for Russia,
destroying some of that bridge. Apparently they bombed it a
number of times, but I think the goal is to
destroyed the bridge outright, like that that is what they're
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trying to do. But this particular drone thing is unfucking believable.
Like these guys, their drone flyers are incredibly good at this.
I saw a video a number of weeks ago where
they showed like the perspective from the drone of one
of these drones, not in this particular campaign, but one
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of these drones Ukraz drones, because they all have cameras
on them obviously, where it flew to this building and
there was a Russian tank parked. It was like kind
of a bombed out building and there was a Russian
tank parked underneath it, right like on the sort of
the bottom floor. And you see the drone fly around
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and it's like, oh, we suspect that there's a tank there, basically,
and they fly right up to the tank and they
wait and it's like hovering around and they wait until
they can see like an opening like you know, in
the top of the tank, and then they fly the
fucking drone into the opening and blow the tank up
like they're that good. So it's like this is modern warfare,
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Like I know, it doesn't seem like it is because
we only hear about like the big shit this what
they're doing. No pilots involved, nobody dying, just destroying your
enemies capabilities with four thousand dollars fucking drones. And I mean,
let's get real, Europe could supply them with drones until
they're fucking blue in the face, Like what does this cost?
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It costs them nothing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
So yeah, that's what they've been doing. I mean, it's
and again just as we've been saying for the past
couple of years, like, boy, were the capabilities of the
Russian military overstated to the rest of us for a
very long time. I mean, aside from the fact that
they do have nuclear weapons, they don't have much of
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a fucking ground force apparently, or you were now an
air force to go along with it. If they're getting
if they're getting beaten up by a very well supplied
but a very scrappy effort.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, no, but I mean this is I mean, this
is oh you know what, I'm sorry, I was wrong
at four thousand dollars. They're four hundred dollars. Oh cool,
So yeah, which is fucking insane. That is that's insane. Yeah,
Ukraine is producing what is this two hundred thousand cheap
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combat combat drones per month. They're making two hundred thousand
of these things per month. All right, guys, good luck Russia.
I don't know, I don't know what the fuck you're
gonna do. It's not looking good for you, and I
couldn't be happy about it, all right. Next up, anti
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Semitic attack in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, so on June first, there was a forty five
year old man who went to a demonstration that was
like a remembrance for the Israeli hostages that are still
in Gaza prisoners of Hamas. He attacked it by throwing
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incendiary devices into the crowd. He was arrested. The good
news is that no one was killed. Eight people were injured,
one of them was in critical condition, but there were
no fatalities at least as of this recording that I'm
aware of. And this fucking sucks, And of course, people
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there was a lot of reactions online to this, some
of them not great. Again, it just kind of goes
to the story that Jay and I have been really
bagging the drum on since this conflict started again in
Earnest a couple of years ago, and that is that
you have to separate people from their governments, like the
Israeli people, and people that are supporters of Israel are
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not the Israeli government, that are the ones conducting and
discriminate bombing campaigns in Gaza and Palaestitian supporters and the
Palaestadian people are not Hamas a terrorist organization. And yeah,
and and attacking people just observing you know, uh hey,
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remember that there are still Israeli hostages. It's not helpful
to the cause, you like, even if you're if you
support a free Palestine or Palestine that's not that's not
going to help you. In fact, it's going to harden
more people against you when you do that kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So I don't understand. I mean, I guess it's just
it's just a level of like intellectual laziness to me.
But I mean it, it is the same. It is
the same intellectual laziness that racism comes from, right, I
mean it it is. It is racism, right or just
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general bigotry, right, depending on your your thoughts on you know,
race versus you know, citizenship or whatever. But it's just
simple mindedness. All Jews are bad because of Israel, yeah,
but a lot of people who are Jewish don't agree
with that shit.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, but yeah, but a lot of people in Israel
don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
What right like, and and this is why, like I know,
you know, some of my best friends are Jewish, No,
I mean, I know, I know Jewish folks who don't
agree with what's happening. But also at the same time,
like they're put in this like between a rock and
a hard place, right because they they don't want to
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just like let anti Semitism slide, right like, which is obvious,
right obviously, I you know, and I agree with them
and shouldn't slide. And so when you try to call
out anti Semitism, you're linked to, Oh, well you clearly
agree with what Israel's doing. It's like, yeah, but I
don't agree with that, right. So it's a it's a
really bizarre thing. It you know, black people deal with
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the same thing. You know, you can say, oh, you know,
I'm I'm not cool with you know, racism, that's up.
Oh so you agree with you know whatever like some
black dude did or whatever. I'm like, I don't agree
with that. Like that's not how this works, right.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I mean, we we tend, we tend, and especially
now it seems like more than ever in in the
take culture that you know, has prop up around social media,
the need for things to be binary, like it could
it can only be one way or the other. You
can either be four against. You can't approach things to
the level of nuance, and this seems even like a
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deep level of nuance, like it's it's it's not it's
not a stretch to be like, hey, anti Semitism is bad,
but what the Israeli government is doing is in humane.
Like those those are two thoughts that you can easily
hold in your hand head.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's actually not hard at all. Yeah, but a lot
a lot of people have a really really hard time
just kind of admitting that may and it's again it's
intellectual laziness, right like, if you look into what is happening,
and you look into what the tests and things like
that are inside Israel, it's hard to make an argument
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that every Jewish person agrees with us, right, like they're
a Zionist and then they are non Zionists like that
fundamental they're there are non Zionists like Hasidic Jews for
God's sake, like and they're as fundamental as it gets,
and they're like, well, no, that's fucking crazy. So it
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to me, the the argument of we need to lump
all these people together is and I and I see
this from my own people too, which drives me crazy.
That's what that's what no offense, But that's what white
people do to us, like they do right, like like
white people get to be individuals.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Imagine, imagine that I take offense to that. Yeah, I know,
I know, you know, I'm not down with white people, not.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
All white people, I would say, but but that's historically
what white America has done, right. You know, you can
take that with a level of nuance. I'm not saying
every white person sends forever, right, just like ninety seven
percent of you this is not a big deal. But
that is what white America, in the white white especially
white run government in the United States, has done to
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black people and minorities in general, is that white individuals
or white people are allowed to be individuals.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You see a white person do something that is not
that doesn't connect to all white people, right, Like, it
just doesn't work like that in American society. A black
person does something, suddenly, you know that's tied to all
black people. A Muslim person does something in America, immediately
the very first question is, how can you defend this
or like you need to, you need to say that
this is wrong. It's like, yeah, they blow up a
(46:45):
bunch of kids. Yeah, I'm Muslim, but I don't agree
with that, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Why? By the way, this like we saw another example
of this, I believe. The actor's name is Jonathan Joss,
who was John Red Corner and King of the Nay
Yeah character. Well, well he didn't just die, No, he
was murdered. Yeah, he was shot and killed by in
a hate crime. He's gay, and uh, he got into
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an altercation with a neighbor and they were killed him.
But the reporting on that that you saw, and and
Jonathan Joss is is indigenous, He's an Indigenous American. So
and the reporting on that that you saw is that,
oh he was he's he passed away. Where Jonathan Joss
has died, Like no, he was fucking killed, like say
he was killed in like you don't have to like
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the soft language is reserved for every other race except
for when a white person is killed. Then it's oh
they were murdered, right.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So if that if that was reported by the New
York Post and he was white and had been like
you know wild, you know savage murders, you know, you know,
beloved actor right like, but that that inability to allow
people to be individuals is exactly what has happened to
minorities in the United States. And I hate to see
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minorities do that to other people, Like it drives me
fucking crazy, and like, what are we doing? Like we
know this is bad and we're repeating the same behaviors. Now. Look,
we've talked about this a million times. I don't like
right wing governments here in the United States. I don't
like right wing governments anywhere. The government of Israel is
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right wing period. They are, and Hamas is right wing.
You can just hate them. You don't have to hate
people who are caught in the middle. Look, I've seen
clips of people who are you know, Zionists living in
Israel and they're like, I don't really give a shit
where the Palestinians go, just kick them out, Like we're
gonna say, yeah, I don't like those fucking people either.
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But you know what, I have friends who are Jewish,
and I know they're not the same as that fucking asshole. Right, Like,
people are individuals, and so you have to treat them
on an individual basis, and it takes. It's exhausting, right,
Like I understand it. It's exhausting to have to go, oh,
this person's a piece of shit. All right, I met
this person. Okay, this person isn't a piece of shit.
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But you have to do that as a human being,
you just have to. Now you can be leary and
wait till you have more information about a person to
you know, to trust them and stuff like that. There's
nothing wrong with that. That's a human that's a human thing.
But to immediately have bigoted views against them, that's not
That doesn't help you. That's a dangerous and fucked up president.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
So and and by the way, before we move off
the story, there was an underreported aspect about it that
I did catch online. So apparently the suspect in this
case told authorities that he actually tried to buy a
gun first and he couldn't because of the gun you know,
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the gun laws that are in California made it impossible
for him to acquire firearm. So just just pointing out
for all you Second Amendment, all all you gun humps
out there, if not for these liberal gun laws that
take away all your freedoms, this would have been a
mass shoot and there would have been people that were killed.
Just FYI, yep, I.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Don't know, man, seems like maybe we should make sure
people can get access to all the guns. Just a thought.
But yeah, what do I know? M all right, fast
corruption and faster screw ups. Go ahead and take this one.
I hadn't I hadn't seen.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah. So Trump media who owns you know, truth, social
and a bunch of other shit.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
They announced last week that they are going to be
purchasing two and a half billion dollars of bitcoin. That is,
that is a strategic plan for them. Now, you might say,
who gives a ship you know, if they buy you
a dollar is a bitcoin?
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's a problem when the guy who is at the
head of that corporation, uh, is the guy who has
a heavy hand in being able to regulate cryptocurrency in
the United States, which is currently unregulated. That's the fucking problem.
This is why it's usually common practice for a president
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to divest themselves from their private holdings when they take office,
because I don't know, weird, the president is able to
influence how policy and regulations get passed because they're really
fucking powerful. So maybe it's not a good idea to
create a position where the president can directly profit from
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decisions that he makes in office. You think Jimmy Carter
wouldn't have liked to make that peanut farm a fucking
fucking cash cow.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
He could, Yeah, he could have been. He could have
been as big as Planners at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
But right now they ruin them. They ruined.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I mean, the level of corruption is insane, is absolutely insane.
By the way, quickly, like jumping back, I forgot to
mention this. Look a friend of the show, uh the goat,
if you will. Elizabeth Warren in the middle of this,
in the middle of this feud between Musk and Trump,
she dropped like a multi page like chapter after chapter
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of all of the corrupt, corruption and illegal acts that
must did while he was working for the administration. It's like,
here's the investigation. Just put him in jail, right like
it's all laid out right.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
There, and then and then when you're done and we
win mid terms, we'll investigate you for letting him do
all this. Ship in the right after you.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
After we investigate him, then you can deport him, and
then we can deport you. How about that you can
just join him at wherever the fucking ends up at
the say Schells or some shit who cares just leave.
SEC drops their lawsuit uh with Finance, which is also
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tied directly to the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
So well, yeah, so so Finance is the world's largest
crypto exchange. The Biden administration, Uh well, I should say,
under the bid administration, the SEC put a massive lawsuit
that they were moving forward against Finance. And then yeah, magically,
as Trump cozies up to crypto investors and has his
(53:31):
mean coin that people can dump money into, and they
want to now roll out a stable coin as well,
the Trump uh, the Trump Crypto group all of a
sudden dismisses, uh this, this lawsuit against uh, the biggest uh,
you know, crypto exchange out there. By the way, I
really find it funny as anti China as this administration
(53:55):
and Republicans generally like to boast about, boy, they sure
don't mind taking care of rich Chinese individuals like Chimpang Chow,
who is the guy who is the founder of Bidence.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Well, I mean that's their buddy, right, That's that's different.
I hate hate China. Here's an individual. It's funny how
that works they can understand individualism when it matters it's
financially beneficial to that. Yeah, I mean, if it ever
gets truly exposed, which I am not bullish on that
(54:30):
have for happening. Unfortunately, the level of financial corruption and
like double dealing that these guys have pulled off even
in this short amount of time is unbelievable, let alone
over the next you know, over the course of his
entire term.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Like it's just gonna be, like I said, the massively
incompetent and running government, but massively competent at doing crimes.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Right, Well, that's because that's what that's where they're focus.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
They're like, we're good at that.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
I don't know, change the Harvey milk boat name who
gives a ship? Like who cares? Oh ship two hundred
two point five billion dollars in cryptocurrency, let's fucking go
like that. That's where they're focus is. Of course, it's
like you could use your powers for good. They're like, no,
that's gross.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
We need to add more money, more money than we
could ever possibly need for this guy who's gonna be
fucking dead in two years in McDonald's hamburger or someone
so two months, Yeah, we can only we can only
be so lucky.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Please any day now, pray to whatever God you believe him.
Go to whatever church were, synagogue, synagogue. That's such a.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Great one.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Because he was an anti Simmer.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Next up, Trump administration wants to create an Office of.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Remigration. I think it's I think it's remigration.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Remigration, which is just getting white people from all over
the world to come on home to a country they've
never lived in or belong to.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well not it's not only bringing whites in, it's more
pushing all of the other colors out, because, like, the
theory of emigration is something that you see in some
pockets in like certain Eastern European states essentially where not
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only do you want to get rid of migrants like
illegal well so called illegal migrants'sually undocumented migrants, but you
also want to get rid of people that quote unquote
haven't assimilated to the culture or the culture is as
you define it is probably a more accurate way to
say that, which which really just means white. Like That's
(56:51):
that's really what it boils down to. At the end
of the day. It's just like hey, you white, cool,
you can stay. Hey you're not get the fuck out
of here. So but now the State Department is going
to have an Office of Remigration essentially, which seems bad.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, no, pretty bad, pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
I often wonder, like they have they have a big problem, right, Like,
I mean, they have many problems, but they have one large, dark,
thirteen percent of the population problem. And I'm wondering what's
going to be their justification for trying to kick black
people out of the country. I'm serious, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, Like I think, why are you here, bitch? You
brought us here?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, dude, we didn't want to come here, but not
by choice. Like, I feel like there is going to
like I feel like there's going to start to be
kind of a swirl of thoughts on this from like
right wing fucking bullshit, especially now that this is a
thing because they don't want black people here, like they
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love to blame us for all of America's problems. And
I think corporations is the word you're looking for. But okay,
but it'll be interesting to see what is the argument.
I mean, they want to get rid of the fourteenth Amendment,
that that would be a pretty good one, Like, well, technically,
maybe you guys should go back to Africa with Elon, right.
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But I'm very interested to see what their thought is
because I don't believe it's just like, oh, just lead
black people here, Like I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I mean we've we mentioned before, like I feel like
they're gearing up to this stuff, right because like they're
they're doing the frog boiling in the pot thing right
when it comes to immigration. Right now, we're there. So
you start off by like micro targeting, like hey, like
we're going after criminal undocumented Venezuelans and oh shit, we
(58:53):
accidentally round it up a bunch of non gang member
Venezuelans as well, or not Venezuelans El Salvagory. Yeah, to
be oh ship, we accidentally uh rouped up a bunch
of non gang member ol salbin Orians and deported them too.
Let's see what the temperature is on that. People get
upset the outrage ebbs, you know, because you can't just
(59:16):
keep up being mad about stuff for whatever. Right, Okay, cool,
we got away of that one. Let's try this again
and and and then you kind of move it out. Well,
then it becomes like what if we got at all
l Salvealreans. What if we go after all Haitians and
and we come up with a with a reason for that,
and you and you just kind of and you just
start slowly amping it up with you know what, what
(59:37):
what can you get away with? And and you got
to kind of test the fences to see what's happened.
That's why it's important to call this ship out when
you see it, like immediately, I mean that that's that's
that's the big thing in there is you gotta you
gotta be loud about it and point it out. And
and again, even if it's a situation like I don't
give a ship if every single l salba in that
(01:00:00):
they did round up into Port wasn't a gang, they
still deserve due process. Like you still have to be
consistent in that belief.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, it's the worst argument of like, well they're any right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Like you still like you'd be like, oh, you know
if it's those guys, because again, they're not just going
to stop at those guys. That's where it starts.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
And it's going to Yeah, they get you used to it. Okay.
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Hello, and welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.
Look how excited are you for this episode?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Brad? Holy shit? Let me tell you about Let me
tell you about today, right, let me tell you about today.
So I woke up, I woke up this morning. My
switch to on my doorstep. As soon as I get
out of bed, it's there waiting for me. Fantastic great
starts of the day. We're loving it. I went to Duncan.
(00:52):
They didn't have the orange vanilla donut, which is like
the special donut right now. They said, what do you
want instead? I said, I'll take a blueberry. What They
gave me two blueberries extra doughnut because they didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The day was written in stone for you like this.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, like like like like we're off to a great start. Uh.
The Orioles in the midst of turning around the season
on a six game winning streak. Okay, happened today? Summer
game fests starting tomorrow, the thing the new E three
and then what do I get this evening but the
(01:28):
caddious to grow the two of the richest most powerful
men in the world. Ah cat fighting yeah, like for
each other apart.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Two megalomaniacs trying to kill each other for our enjoyment. Yeah,
look i am, I'm loving it. Uh, this is this
is great. We're gonna get into it. Look, when we
planned sorry for my voice, I'm getting over being sick.
When we plan this episode, when we were you know,
(01:58):
kind of working through things, the Stephen Miller Elon Musk
story was the biggest story, and we're like, oh, it's
gonna be great. We get to make fun of this
disgusting throttle because ill like, that's awful in every way.
But somehow that's not the biggest story. No, but the
biggest story still involves Elon Musk. But look, this is
(02:19):
a story that was written the day he got on
board with the whole mine.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, we were all already like like the
countdown was one from day one. There there was no
way that two of the most narcissistic, two of the
most thin skinned, two of the most arrogant people on earth,
(02:44):
could he could coexist working side by side with one another.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
No, it is impossible. Also, to Trump's credit, he said that,
you know, for some reason, a lot of people who
leave his administration and they they just get they just
get angry and they just you know, they lash out
at at you know, me and my administration. I don't
know why. Get that's a tell, bro that everyone heats
(03:11):
your guts after they start working for you. It's not
a it's he knowes. Oh it's maybe it's a Trump
arrangement syndrome. No, it's because you're a horrible boss and
everyone hates your fucking guts.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, it's because it's because you are deranged.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, Trump is deranged syndrome I think is more Yeah,
yeah it is. Excuse me, this blow up is amazing, right,
So this basically they they kind of started sniping at
each other, or must start at sniping at Republicans because
of the one big beautiful bill like that that was.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So well remember so like when we were originally plotting
this EPISODEWN, we're actually a couple of days late from
when we originally planned and record, which has turned out
to be very fortuitous for us. The the the the
news story around Elon Musk was, hey, he's leaving DOGE,
but is he actually like it's not one hundred percent clear,
(04:04):
but he at least he at least and and the
government is at least aware that having him as the
public face of DOGE is causing harm not only to
the government but also to Elon Musk and his personal
personal finances. So like it was very it was very ambiguous,
like what's going on here exactly? I don't think it's
very ambiguous anymore about whether or not stay in the government,
(04:28):
right And and you're correct, like this really did pick
up steam when Elon Musk, after leaving UH this earlier
this week, went on x or Twitter, whatever the fuck
you want to call it doesn't really matter. And and
to your point, said, hey, like this this bill, like
like like the one big beautiful bill that you know,
(04:50):
passed to the House and is now currently being uh
discussed in the Senate, it's terrible, like like it balloons
the the deficit, Like it completely goes against what Trump
is saying. He's right, by the way, like that's that's
That's the funny thing is when is when Trump and
whoever Trump is fighting with start sniping at each other weirdly,
(05:15):
like the bullshit veneer tends to drop and all of
a sudden, like the hard hitting truth bombs start coming out.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Like these guys are well aware that this ship is garbage.
Trump is garbage, but he gets a bunch of draconian
bullshit passed as well, right, like you know, this whole
idea of like, oh, lowering the budgets and everything else,
they have no desire to do that, like none, zero, right,
so so and.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
They never have, by the way, again, like if you
look at you know again Sintragan, when the budget explodes,
when when morgants added to the national debt, it's when
Republicans are in charge, that's correct. They they have, They
have added the majority of debt to the country since
since the nineteen eighties. So now that now that probably
(06:00):
pissed Trump off. The under reported part about this the
people that the thing that people are kind of glossing
over today is when Elon must set a couple of
days ago actually things yesterday he went on Twitter again
and this is what I really dissed off Donald Trump
is when he said was when Elon must say, Hey,
if it wasn't for me, Republicans would have lost the
election and they'd have like a fifty one forty nine
(06:21):
advantage in the Senate right now, basically like hey, like
I delivered the Republican government, So you should do what
I say because I spent all this money and if
not for me, you'd be losers. Right now, I should
be the president, but I can't be the president, so
I want to be the shadow president. Is the subtext
(06:42):
behind that.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, well, and also like pay fealty to me, right, like,
I mean, you know that's sort of thing. Well, and
that way even further today when he when he basically
posts out like hey, like Republicans should really be thinking
long term about this shit, like why like who you
get it back? Like the guy who's only gonna be
president for the next three to a half years or
(07:04):
or me the guy who's gonna be alive for the
next forty years. Whether that's true or not really debatable
considering you know, one of the later stories that we
have on the docket. But you know, he's basically saying like, hey,
I'm actually the power broker, which again is like a
weirdly gross like cards on the table admission from him. Yeah, no,
it is, I mean, like like.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Shoot shoot comments that aren't intended to be shoot.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Comments kind of kind of right exactly exactly, and it's
just it's it's one of those things where again, you know,
I don't know, I don't know if he'll be around
for forty years, like you're saying, like, I mean, just
keep doing drugs, bro, probably you got four tops yourself.
But at the same time, let's say drugs don't get him,
(07:47):
he's likely maybe correct, right, like, you know, maybe twenty
thirty years at least. So that's not exactly wrong, but
it is a very callous thing to say considering who
you're who you're fighting with right now in this in
this fight between these two titans of industry, them destroying
(08:11):
each other. Is I mean, let's be honest, who the
winner is in all of this? It's us, right, it is.
It is everyone watching this, right, or at least people
on the you know, center, to the to the left, right,
we are all enjoying the shit out of this. I'm
seeing Republican like voters being like, no, mommy, daddy, don't
(08:31):
fight right, I'm like, you fucking clowns, get the fuck
out of here. This is awesome, shut up. But no,
I love it right because again, this was written the
second they joined forces, like one hundred percent. But the
other the other side of this is will this cause
a like a splinter inside MAGA. Probably not, because those
(08:52):
guys are really hard lined with the cult. Though I
think he'll lose some of the tech bro kind of
people who probably were brought in by Musk into the
Trump sort of world, So I think he'll lose a
bit of that. But more importantly, Tesla is done as
a company. It's fucked because Musk. By joining up with
(09:14):
Trump and doing all the things that he did, you
completely alienated your actual company base, which were mostly.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Liberals, like who's who's buying who's buying evs? Like the
people who are trying to fight climate change or the
people that try to tell you that climate change.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Isn't real exactly, like it doesn't make any sense. Right,
So you you've alienated your the vast majority of your
entire base. Like, if they own Tesla's now, the likelihood
that they buy another one is low, right, if they've
not already gotten rid of them, me being one of them. Right,
have you seen the retail value of Oh no, it's
(09:56):
it's gone to dogship.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, it's cratered, like like literally went from like I
want to say, like like pre election, like sixty grand
for Model what a Model three year? Whatever? The fuck
you know whatever. It is probably a Model X, Model
X down to like twenty six thousand dollars. And I said,
I saw someone online try to spin it. It's like yll,
it's never it's never been more more affordable talking to
(10:21):
buy a Tesla. I'm like, bro, that's not good.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
That's not good. No, you're you're bad at the maths.
But okay. But so he alienated like liberals and Democrats
people who believe in climate change. You alienated, by all
accounts if you look at if you look at the sales,
you've alienated all of Europe, like Europe is like every
(10:44):
European country, like sales are down like forty to sixty
seventy percent. It's insane. And now you've alienated MAGA folks because.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You're trying to at least because because US is arrogant,
arrogant enough to think that they will follow him. They
want like the pie paper, which is a dramatic and
gross misreading of.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Of like the MAGA base. Yeah, right of Republican politics.
They do. They're more likely to buy your cars and
set them on fire, considering the other boycotts that they've
done in the past. Sure you'll get your money, but
like they'll show you on social media because they're dumb.
So you've alienated MAGA, You've alienated liberals and people who
(11:28):
actually believe in evs. You've alienated the second largest market
to sell your cars, which is Europe. You're not I
have to imagine. I haven't looked up the numbers that
I can't, but I can't imagine you do that big
in China because they have all fuck ton of evs
that are a hell of a lot cheaper than yours.
So what are you going to do as the CEO
(11:51):
of that company? I remember they just a year ago
or so Tesla sign that renewed that contract with Elon
Musk for like some ungodly amount of money. They gotta
be really kicking themselves in the ass because when that
that whole thing came up, I was like, don't sign
his contract. No, Like he's acting crazy. Now it's only
gonna get worse shocking news.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So maybe I don't know, man, maybe it's bad to have,
like for a business to like tie their brand to
the ebbs and flows of like one person I don't know,
doesn't feel like your great strategy.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, there's a reason why the CEO is the most
replaceable person in most corporations, right, they just rotate that
chair man. But Tesla is like, no, but he's a
genius innovator. I mean he isn't. But if you even
believe that, what is all of these actions tell you,
like you just ignore you if.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If if nothing else, he what he's proven is that
he's he's the fucking music man essentially. Like that's that's
really all he is at the end of the day.
I mean, like it's it's a running joke. Now. He's
been talking about having like full self driving cars for
the last like eight years basically, and and and every
time he talks about it, Yeah, every time he talks
about it. So oh by the end of this year,
(13:06):
by the end of this year, in the next two years,
every single time, every single time, and he hasn't delivered
on it. And again, at a normal company, that dude
would have been out on his ass four years ago.
But line kept going up because eb was a burgeoning
market and they had first mover advantage for a really
long time before the rest of the automotive space got
(13:28):
their ship together and realized that, hey, like we should
probably be investing in this field, right, and then they
squatted it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah again, I don't understand why you would pay. I
have to find the amount that they that they signed
with Musk recently, like it was it was absolutely it
was absolutely ridiculous. But yeah, look I love it so
(14:01):
now so so now basically Trump is you know, Trump,
Trump and muster like tweeting back and forth, you know,
like the whole idea Elon must says, oh, you know,
the he'll only be around for three and a half years.
I'll be around for forty. Okay, Trump tweets the easiest
(14:22):
way to save money in our budget, billions and billions
of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts.
I was always surprised that Biden didn't do that, okay.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then yeah, and then Musks responds to that, is like, hey,
you know why the administration hasn't released the Epstein re
word because Trump's in it? How did I stay which,
by the way, they were asked the White House. Uh,
they asked the White House about that, like, hey, is
what he's saying true? And the White House came back
with a rambling statement within which there was not a
(14:58):
denial that that was the case, because I think we
all know.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean he's on the list. I mean he like
before they got into the into office, he was on
the flight list.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Like that was right, and then uh and then like
right before we started recording tonight, Trump fires back by saying, hey, uh,
Elon Musk is constantly high on Kennedine, always making promises
he can't keep, not to be trusted. He wants to
go to Mars. How about you go back to Africa.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Look, that's fucking hilarious, Like, I'm sorry, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That's funny telling Elon Musk to go back to Africa.
And I don't need him to do that. I don't
want him torturing those people. Now, that's fucking hysterical, Like
that's that's just a good time. That's just a good time. Again.
If I had my druthers and I can control history,
Donald Trump would have been a Joan Rivers style bitchy
(15:57):
queen who like ripped on people's out fits on the
red carpet, because I feel like that's who he really
is and this whole politics and busy no, just just
making fun of people's clothing and just like be like, Oh,
that guy's a dick, but he's hilarious. That would have
been fine. That could have been his life and then
he died and then we would all have been like
I remember that time. That guy was a lot and
that would have been the end of it. But because
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he's doing serious work, it's a problem. But then he
comes out with these gems like telling Elon Musk to
go back to Africa, which is just fuck. I'm sorry,
by the way, yes, January of twenty twenty four, or
excuse me, July of twenty twenty four, just about a
year ago, Tesla did approve shareholders approved a fifty six
(16:40):
billion dollar pay package for Elon Musk. Was it worth it?
Was it worth it?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I mean? How much? How much share value did they
lose today as their stock braces down like forty five dollars? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I was actually that was actually just what I was
going to google. How much share value have they lost
since July? I have twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh, you don't have to look at July twenty twenty
four again, just look at two day like it literally
has dropped like forty points today, wolf, which is which
is not great. Uh, if you are a Tesla stockholder.
But then again that's it's I mean, Tesla stock is
a mean price, I mean stock anyway, So anyone that's
holding that, I guess kind of get deserves what they get. Yeah,
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down forty seven to thirty five today, fourteen percent in
one day because because we're back and forth.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So that's approximately one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So so three three Elon musks they paid lost.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, they paid this guy fifty six billion and
he'd lost one hundred and fifty billion just today.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's down twenty three percent in the last six months,
if if you were curious about that, and twenty five
percent over the past year or year to date, sorry,
year to date. It's actually up over last year, pretty
pretty considerable ways. But if you're just looking at twenty
base basically, since Elon must stepped officially stepped into government,
(18:06):
it has not been not been pretty for the stock praise.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, that's uh, that's not good. Oh wow. The most
significant drop in Tesla was today. Incidentally, since twenty twenty four,
Jesus Christ. Oh So, as of June fifth, twenty twenty five,
Tesla's market capitalization stands at approximately nine hundred and seventeen
billion dollars down from one point four trillion dollars in
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December of December thirty first of twenty twenty four. So
I hope it was worth it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Cool. I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So they're in this full, full on fight. And excuse me,
I want to play this clip from Steve Bannon. You
have not seen this clip.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, I haven't seen the clip. I know that just
of it.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Well, there's the thing that he says, which is fascinating
coming from him, really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So here you go.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
The acts should that President Trump should be taking immediately.
I think when he threatens to should take one of
the big programs out of SpaceX. President Trump tonight should
sign an executive order UH calling for the Defense to
Production Act to be called in SpaceX and seize SpaceX
tonight before maybe US government should see it. If a
guy's gonna sit there and start making it quotes. Also,
(19:38):
as we Stuart Stevens talked back in January, I don't
know why we haven't had a full investigation. Look, if
you're going to deport illegal aliens, you got to deport
illegal aliens. The good go with the the you know,
the the goose and the gander. They got to go
back to this. As Stuart Stevens talk about and go
through everything about his immigration status. I happen to believe,
given the facts that I've been shown, that he's an
(20:00):
illegal alien and illegal aliens gotta.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Be Yeah, illegal aliens have to be deported, as what
he was saying. So, yeah, if you caught that, we
should see Steve Bannon advocating for the state to seize
the needs of production exactly. Very very communist, Yeah, something
something I've been told Republicans are incredibly against.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Absolutely, Incidentally, I agree with Steve Bannon. I think it
would be fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Do you agree with it for different reasons? I wonder
you think it would be fun because it'll be funny,
just just for the humor value. I don't. I don't
know how you exactly could leverage the Defense Production Act
too to seize face acts considering we're not in an
actual you know, war right now.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
But we're not in an actual invasion either, but they're
trying to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Make Yeah, I stretched true. I'm about to say, no
pun intended. Since we're talking about Steve Bannon. I'm sure
they can gin something up if they really needed to.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Oh, very nice, good for you. Yeah, don't worry, guys,
I can fuck at this idea. But but yeah, it's
I love it. I love this. It's not even knifing
in the back, it's knifing in the chest.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, they're knife each other face to face. Like it's
it's as as as we said, like we we put
up with a lot of shit in the last six months.
We we deserve this. Like like like if you're sitting there, like,
who knows where this will end up? These these two
could end up kissing and making up next week for
all we know. It's like things are that wildly unpredictable
(21:38):
in in the orbit in this administration. So like you,
you guys out there like that are listening to this,
just enjoy this regardless of what happens down the road.
Just just let it flow within you and just just
laugh because it's really really fucking funny. Today again, watch
something that we all knew that would happen happen as
(21:59):
quickly as it has. Some people are shocked it lasted
this long, but you know, I guess they tried to
have you know, had to try to get some things done,
but also just again, once we once they got out
of the starting gate and just like they had their checklist, like, hey,
here's all the shit that we want to do, and
(22:19):
they started doing it in like the most hapazard way possible.
We've now settled into like the cycle of incompetence in
in full swing, and we just get to see it
day in and day out now where these guys literally
have no clue what they're doing, how to do it,
and and and the other thing that's really funny about
this is I love the fact that like this is
(22:41):
happening and both guys don't realize that this is such
a self own on both their parts. Bye bye bye
by nighting each other, Like Elon Wilson's out here, like
again insinuating that Donald Trump is a pedophile. Oh so
you're saying that, like you were cool throwing hundreds of
(23:01):
millions of dollars and working side by side with the
guy that you knew as a pedophile. Like that's that's
something that that you're saying was cool. And to Donald
Trump's point, he is like, ah, Elon Musk is an idiot.
He breaks promises all the time, He's useless. You know,
we shouldn't invest in his companies. Dude, this is the
guy you specifically brought in to trim the FATA of
government to tell us that, you know, to fix it
(23:23):
to the bloat in in in the federal company.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, it makes it absolutely no sense. Yeah, all right
from Elon Musk. Oh, by the way, I did just
see something before we move on the Lincoln projects, Rick
Wilson reports. A source inside the White House said an
oval office meaning about Elon Musk quote is completely off
the rails. And then an investigation into Musk visa overstay
(23:49):
in the nineteen nineties maybe a way to revoke his citizenship.
Sources claimed Trump is adamant about deportation.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And by and by the way, like do has been
has been was verified by multiple outlets. It's not just
like a Rick Wilson thing. Literally I posted to you
and Andy, like basically the White House is angling to
make people choose between like which parent.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Who you want to live with? Timmy, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
These are the most childish, fucking people in the entire world.
They are.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
They are. Look the idea of them deporting Elon Musk,
Holy shit, I just imagine what the blowback would be
because there's got to be a sense I mean many
people have said this. I and I had the same thought.
How many tweets are we away from implications about election shit?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Like sure? How many?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
How many?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean many people think that he has something to
do with, you know, rigging it. I'm I'm of the
mindset that it is definitely possible, like go on one
ketamine vendor, dude, And it's like, is over baby, because
why why?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Why stop? Why stop it? At must getting deported and
and and must also putting out like election tampering ship.
What if Trump's like the sign executive order, Twitter's band
in the United States, fuck you?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh oh bro, I would go crazy. I would go crazy.
It would be amazing, Like he could he could just start.
I mean, this is the thing about having a dictator,
Like it's horrible, but sometimes it's kind of fun because
he has If he has a fight with a piece
(25:39):
of shit, he's gonna do damage. And there's nothing must
money can do about this. There's nothing he can do
about it, nothing because Trump is insulated from all reason
and in normalcy, and all he has is a bunch
of yes men. If they're like, hell, yeah, bro, let's
do it. Let's do it. This guy's a foreigner. Let's
get him the funk.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Out of here.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He'll do it, he'll do it. Who's gonna be who's
in his administration to go? Hey, sir, this doesn't feel
like a great idea, No one great good do it.
If you don't do it, Donald Trump, you're a pussy.
That's all I'm saying. We know you were watching.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I think you should, dude. Deporting Elon Musk would be amazing.
Oh that would be m hm chef's kiss. I would
love it so good on them, more more, more please,
by all meats. I can't wait to see what tomorrow brings.
So moving from that into uh the grossness. Apparently the
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rumor is that Stephen Miller a Kahana the Santa Monica
fascist him and his wife. I can't believe he's married
at all. They were in a thrupple with Elon Musk
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and now his now Steven Miller's wife has gone off
with Elon Musk to like work with him, and the
rumor is to kind of be with him as well.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
But also I mean again like like like the relationship
side of things that this is all just rumor in
Ininando just to be clear, she did lead. She she
was working alongside him at DOJE and has left the
administration to go follow him to basically be like not
his publicist, but she's like working like hand in hand
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alongside him at wherever whatever he's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, right, Trump's dance. But the the also, the part
of this rumor that's really weird is that Miller was
trying to use his wife as a honeypot in order
to control Musk. Look, fascism is wild, man, Like, it's
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really wild. I made this about this. I don't know
if it's true, but none of this surprises me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
If this is true, and I posted this in the discord,
but it's it's funny to me because it's one of
these weird like situations. There's a very famous wrestling story
where Kevin Sullivan, who was the booker in w c
W at the time, booked a feud between him and
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Chris Benoit, and he used like in storyline, had his
real life wife who was also with him on screen,
leave him for Benoit as part of the feud, and
then life imitated art in that situation. So, like, the
joke is that Kevin Sullivan booked his own divorce essentially,
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And that's and and if this Miller stuff is true,
like that's literally the exact same situation.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Oh man, I'm gonna use it you as a honeypot. Okay, Oh,
turns out this is better over here. I guess maybe
the reports of Elon muss having a botched penis surgery
maybe not true. Who knows, But.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
No, I mean Katmuller literally on Twitter has like her
like her profile banner picture is literally like a SpaceX
rocket launch. No bullshit.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh or at least you think you think she'll change it.
You think she'll change it? Uh in light of this, uh,
this this feud, I bet not.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's a good question. Let me let me just open
up a private window here real quick, just to just
to take a look and see what it's at today,
just just out of curiosity. I mean, also like fueling.
Oh no, it's still the same picture. Yeah, and still there. Yeah,
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that's pretty funny. Also pretty funny like that. That's kind
of tying into this, like when Elon Musk showed up
in the White House to announce like, hey, I'm kind
of stepping back from doge sort of situation, had a
black eye, Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah, his right eye. He said that was from his son.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, it was from his son. Not for nothing, Steven
Miller left handed. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
I love it. I love all of this, Like can
I get this put all on a T shirt?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Like yeah, I mean again, like I said, wonderful too.
But as as they, as the old saying goes, when
there's smoke, there's fire, like a lot of a lot
of coincidences adding up to uh to not necessarily be
you know, for for there to be no truth behind
behind the rumors here now.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
No look here, here's the thing like the that like
those sort of weird sexual lines and things like that
are also very hallmark of fascism too, right, Like the
idea of using women in as odd I mean you
can see it in the rights rhetoric, like the red
pill sort of world. That idea of like using women
as objects to like get what you want and shit
like that. That's all very real for them. So it
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would not surprise me that even she would volunteer to
do that, because that's how they think, like the ends
justify the means sort of thing. It's like, I mean,
can can a human woman even loves Stephen Miller. I
mean that one could ask that question, to be honest,
So it doesn't excuse me. It doesn't surprise me to
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hear hear about that. It's gross as fuck just imagining
anybody sleeping with either one of those two fucking weirdos.
But I'm glad it blew up in Steven Miller's face.
I think that's I think it's wonderful, and I'm glad
this other thing is blowing up Inlan's face. So everybody wins,
and by everyone, I mean us just just quick fucking
no notes.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So. Also reported as part of from the New York Times,
as part of this whole story, is that apparently Elon
Musk is on so much ketamine that he pisses himself.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Essentially, Yeah, he damaged ladder. Yeah I got banned. I
got banned for seven days on Reddit because I said, oh,
I guess I guess his busted bladder is going to
match his his rumored batched penis surgery, And apparently that
was calling for violence. I was like, I pitch on
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time after that. Huh yeah, I was like, all right, well,
and I'll say it again. I don't get a fuck fuck.
Then let's make any account. You can't stop me. So, yeah,
it's it's just wonderful. It's wonderful to watch these guys
pay exactly the prices they should be paid for. Now,
all right, let's uh Jesus Christ my voice, let's move
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into new gid. Here, you can start this story and
I'll fill in the details.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah. So, big news that happened late last week is
that in the as the UK and Ukraine Russian War
kind of goes on, a surprise drone attack from the
Ukrainians kind of decimated the Russian air force. They they
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they kind of pinpoint targeted several air bases that had
nuclear capable bombers and not and and the the other
big news like, not only did this attack take place
that was kept really secret until it happened, Apparently it
was so secret that they decided to keep the US
out of the loop in an operation that you might
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assume that they would give America heads up, But then again,
I guess they wanted to make sure that Russia didn't
get an advanced notice.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And look, I don't disagree with that. I wouldn't give it.
I wouldn't have called him. I wouldn't call the US either.
All right, So let me give some details about how
this worked. This is actually incredibly fucking clever. So what
they did was the Ukrainians basically like they have these,
like I think they cost about four thousand dollars US
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so they're like higher end sort of consumer drones, right Like,
these are not don't think of them as like US
predator drones, right, Like, they're not like they're like, ooh,
I'm going to buy one at like best Buy, right,
like a high end one. They're about four thousand dollars apiece.
And what they have been doing is they been attaching
thermite to them, which when you ignite thermite it causes fires. Right,
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So what they had been doing in the past is
they have been taking drones finding where like Russian tanks
are in like the woods in Russia and crashing these
drones connected with you know that are have thermite on them,
and lighting the forest on fire illuminated where the tanks are,
and then like bombing the tanks, right or just causing
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massive fires so that they have to deal with it, right,
and then basically allowing the Ukrainians to know exactly where
where they are, where the Russians are, So all that
being said, this particular move that they did was they
packed a bunch of drones into like not not quite
shipping containers, but like kind of like wooden shipping containers.
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And yeah, and they were and they you know, through
whatever intermediary that they you know, duped. We're like, hey,
this is just like this is like house house building materials, right,
Like it's just would for house building materials. And so
these truckers, unbeknownst to them, right, like they're not involved,
they pick up these they pick up these you know,
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these these wooden uh containers or what have you, and
they're driving them to their particular destinations. Well they get
a call. All of these different drives they get a
call and it's like, hey, extuallycu you just leave it here.
We're gonna have somebody, like a third party kind of
pick it up and take it the rest of their route,
which is apparently not uncommon, right, So they were like,
uh okay, yeah, sure. And where they had them stop
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because they were tracking them. Where they had them stop,
we're all near Russian military bases, right, So when they stopped,
they had it so that these crates are what have
you opened automatically and then a shit ton of drones
flew out of it, and all those drones went to
these military bases and then blew up all of these bombers. Right,
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they blew up forty forty bombers, which is like thirty
five percent of Russia's bombers period. Right, Like, they likeed
massive damage to their ability to basically bombish out of Ukraine.
And they did them with a bunch of four thousand
dollars drones. That's amazing. And like you said, they did
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not let the US know and Russia barely understood what
the fuck was going on, right, Like the report of
it was basically like I guess there were drones or whatever.
Holy shit. And basically Ukraine put out a message being like, yeah, no,
that was us, like we did that shit, You're welcome,
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which is dope. And then Ukraine also it's not in
this story, but Ukraine also bombed the bridge into Crimea,
which is kind of a big supply passed through for Russia,
destroying some of that bridge. Apparently they bombed it a
number of times, but I think the goal is to
destroyed the bridge outright, like that that is what they're
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trying to do. But this particular drone thing is unfucking believable.
Like these guys, their drone flyers are incredibly good at this.
I saw a video a number of weeks ago where
they showed like the perspective from the drone of one
of these drones, not in this particular campaign, but one
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of these drones Ukraz drones, because they all have cameras
on them obviously, where it flew to this building and
there was a Russian tank parked. It was like kind
of a bombed out building and there was a Russian
tank parked underneath it, right like on the sort of
the bottom floor. And you see the drone fly around
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and it's like, oh, we suspect that there's a tank there, basically,
and they fly right up to the tank and they
wait and it's like hovering around and they wait until
they can see like an opening like you know, in
the top of the tank, and then they fly the
fucking drone into the opening and blow the tank up
like they're that good. So it's like this is modern warfare,
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Like I know, it doesn't seem like it is because
we only hear about like the big shit this what
they're doing. No pilots involved, nobody dying, just destroying your
enemies capabilities with four thousand dollars fucking drones. And I mean,
let's get real, Europe could supply them with drones until
they're fucking blue in the face, Like what does this cost?
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It costs them nothing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
So yeah, that's what they've been doing. I mean, it's
and again just as we've been saying for the past
couple of years, like, boy, were the capabilities of the
Russian military overstated to the rest of us for a
very long time. I mean, aside from the fact that
they do have nuclear weapons, they don't have much of
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a fucking ground force apparently, or you were now an
air force to go along with it. If they're getting
if they're getting beaten up by a very well supplied
but a very scrappy effort.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, no, but I mean this is I mean, this
is oh you know what, I'm sorry, I was wrong
at four thousand dollars. They're four hundred dollars. Oh cool,
So yeah, which is fucking insane. That is that's insane. Yeah,
Ukraine is producing what is this two hundred thousand cheap
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combat combat drones per month. They're making two hundred thousand
of these things per month. All right, guys, good luck Russia.
I don't know, I don't know what the fuck you're
gonna do. It's not looking good for you, and I
couldn't be happy about it, all right. Next up, anti
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Semitic attack in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, so on June first, there was a forty five
year old man who went to a demonstration that was
like a remembrance for the Israeli hostages that are still
in Gaza prisoners of Hamas. He attacked it by throwing
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incendiary devices into the crowd. He was arrested. The good
news is that no one was killed. Eight people were injured,
one of them was in critical condition, but there were
no fatalities at least as of this recording that I'm
aware of. And this fucking sucks, And of course, people
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there was a lot of reactions online to this, some
of them not great. Again, it just kind of goes
to the story that Jay and I have been really
bagging the drum on since this conflict started again in
Earnest a couple of years ago, and that is that
you have to separate people from their governments, like the
Israeli people, and people that are supporters of Israel are
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not the Israeli government, that are the ones conducting and
discriminate bombing campaigns in Gaza and Palaestitian supporters and the
Palaestadian people are not Hamas a terrorist organization. And yeah,
and and attacking people just observing you know, uh hey,
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remember that there are still Israeli hostages. It's not helpful
to the cause, you like, even if you're if you
support a free Palestine or Palestine that's not that's not
going to help you. In fact, it's going to harden
more people against you when you do that kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So I don't understand. I mean, I guess it's just
it's just a level of like intellectual laziness to me.
But I mean it, it is the same. It is
the same intellectual laziness that racism comes from, right, I
mean it it is. It is racism, right or just
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general bigotry, right, depending on your your thoughts on you know,
race versus you know, citizenship or whatever. But it's just
simple mindedness. All Jews are bad because of Israel, yeah,
but a lot of people who are Jewish don't agree
with that shit.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, but yeah, but a lot of people in Israel
don't agree with.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
What right like, and and this is why, like I know,
you know, some of my best friends are Jewish, No,
I mean, I know, I know Jewish folks who don't
agree with what's happening. But also at the same time,
like they're put in this like between a rock and
a hard place, right because they they don't want to
(43:33):
just like let anti Semitism slide, right like, which is obvious,
right obviously, I you know, and I agree with them
and shouldn't slide. And so when you try to call
out anti Semitism, you're linked to, Oh, well you clearly
agree with what Israel's doing. It's like, yeah, but I
don't agree with that, right. So it's a it's a
really bizarre thing. It you know, black people deal with
(43:54):
the same thing. You know, you can say, oh, you know,
I'm I'm not cool with you know, racism, that's up.
Oh so you agree with you know whatever like some
black dude did or whatever. I'm like, I don't agree
with that. Like that's not how this works, right.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I mean, we we tend, we tend, and especially
now it seems like more than ever in in the
take culture that you know, has prop up around social media,
the need for things to be binary, like it could
it can only be one way or the other. You
can either be four against. You can't approach things to
the level of nuance, and this seems even like a
(44:29):
deep level of nuance, like it's it's it's not it's
not a stretch to be like, hey, anti Semitism is bad,
but what the Israeli government is doing is in humane.
Like those those are two thoughts that you can easily
hold in your hand head.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's actually not hard at all. Yeah, but a lot
a lot of people have a really really hard time
just kind of admitting that may and it's again it's
intellectual laziness, right like, if you look into what is happening,
and you look into what the tests and things like
that are inside Israel, it's hard to make an argument
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that every Jewish person agrees with us, right, like they're
a Zionist and then they are non Zionists like that
fundamental they're there are non Zionists like Hasidic Jews for
God's sake, like and they're as fundamental as it gets,
and they're like, well, no, that's fucking crazy. So it
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to me, the the argument of we need to lump
all these people together is and I and I see
this from my own people too, which drives me crazy.
That's what that's what no offense, But that's what white
people do to us, like they do right, like like
white people get to be individuals.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Imagine, imagine that I take offense to that. Yeah, I know,
I know, you know, I'm not down with white people, not.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
All white people, I would say, but but that's historically
what white America has done, right. You know, you can
take that with a level of nuance. I'm not saying
every white person sends forever, right, just like ninety seven
percent of you this is not a big deal. But
that is what white America, in the white white especially
white run government in the United States, has done to
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black people and minorities in general, is that white individuals
or white people are allowed to be individuals.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You see a white person do something that is not
that doesn't connect to all white people, right, Like, it
just doesn't work like that in American society. A black
person does something, suddenly, you know that's tied to all
black people. A Muslim person does something in America, immediately
the very first question is, how can you defend this
or like you need to, you need to say that
this is wrong. It's like, yeah, they blow up a
(46:45):
bunch of kids. Yeah, I'm Muslim, but I don't agree
with that, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Why? By the way, this like we saw another example
of this, I believe. The actor's name is Jonathan Joss,
who was John Red Corner and King of the Nay
Yeah character. Well, well he didn't just die, No, he
was murdered. Yeah, he was shot and killed by in
a hate crime. He's gay, and uh, he got into
(47:11):
an altercation with a neighbor and they were killed him.
But the reporting on that that you saw, and and
Jonathan Joss is is indigenous, He's an Indigenous American. So
and the reporting on that that you saw is that,
oh he was he's he passed away. Where Jonathan Joss
has died, Like no, he was fucking killed, like say
he was killed in like you don't have to like
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the soft language is reserved for every other race except
for when a white person is killed. Then it's oh
they were murdered, right.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So if that if that was reported by the New
York Post and he was white and had been like
you know wild, you know savage murders, you know, you know,
beloved actor right like, but that that inability to allow
people to be individuals is exactly what has happened to
minorities in the United States. And I hate to see
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minorities do that to other people, Like it drives me
fucking crazy, and like, what are we doing? Like we
know this is bad and we're repeating the same behaviors. Now. Look,
we've talked about this a million times. I don't like
right wing governments here in the United States. I don't
like right wing governments anywhere. The government of Israel is
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right wing period. They are, and Hamas is right wing.
You can just hate them. You don't have to hate
people who are caught in the middle. Look, I've seen
clips of people who are you know, Zionists living in
Israel and they're like, I don't really give a shit
where the Palestinians go, just kick them out, Like we're
gonna say, yeah, I don't like those fucking people either.
(48:48):
But you know what, I have friends who are Jewish,
and I know they're not the same as that fucking asshole. Right, Like,
people are individuals, and so you have to treat them
on an individual basis, and it takes. It's exhausting, right,
Like I understand it. It's exhausting to have to go, oh,
this person's a piece of shit. All right, I met
this person. Okay, this person isn't a piece of shit.
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But you have to do that as a human being,
you just have to. Now you can be leary and
wait till you have more information about a person to
you know, to trust them and stuff like that. There's
nothing wrong with that. That's a human that's a human thing.
But to immediately have bigoted views against them, that's not
That doesn't help you. That's a dangerous and fucked up president.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
So and and by the way, before we move off
the story, there was an underreported aspect about it that
I did catch online. So apparently the suspect in this
case told authorities that he actually tried to buy a
gun first and he couldn't because of the gun you know,
(49:50):
the gun laws that are in California made it impossible
for him to acquire firearm. So just just pointing out
for all you Second Amendment, all all you gun humps
out there, if not for these liberal gun laws that
take away all your freedoms, this would have been a
mass shoot and there would have been people that were killed.
Just FYI, yep, I.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
Don't know, man, seems like maybe we should make sure
people can get access to all the guns. Just a thought.
But yeah, what do I know? M all right, fast
corruption and faster screw ups. Go ahead and take this one.
I hadn't I hadn't seen.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah. So Trump media who owns you know, truth, social
and a bunch of other shit.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
They announced last week that they are going to be
purchasing two and a half billion dollars of bitcoin. That is,
that is a strategic plan for them. Now, you might say,
who gives a ship you know, if they buy you
a dollar is a bitcoin?
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's a problem when the guy who is at the
head of that corporation, uh, is the guy who has
a heavy hand in being able to regulate cryptocurrency in
the United States, which is currently unregulated. That's the fucking problem.
This is why it's usually common practice for a president
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to divest themselves from their private holdings when they take office,
because I don't know, weird, the president is able to
influence how policy and regulations get passed because they're really
fucking powerful. So maybe it's not a good idea to
create a position where the president can directly profit from
(51:43):
decisions that he makes in office. You think Jimmy Carter
wouldn't have liked to make that peanut farm a fucking
fucking cash cow.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
He could, Yeah, he could have been. He could have
been as big as Planners at this point.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
But right now they ruin them. They ruined.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
I mean, the level of corruption is insane, is absolutely insane.
By the way, quickly, like jumping back, I forgot to
mention this. Look a friend of the show, uh the goat,
if you will. Elizabeth Warren in the middle of this,
in the middle of this feud between Musk and Trump,
she dropped like a multi page like chapter after chapter
(52:27):
of all of the corrupt, corruption and illegal acts that
must did while he was working for the administration. It's like,
here's the investigation. Just put him in jail, right like
it's all laid out right.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
There, and then and then when you're done and we
win mid terms, we'll investigate you for letting him do
all this. Ship in the right after you.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
After we investigate him, then you can deport him, and
then we can deport you. How about that you can
just join him at wherever the fucking ends up at
the say Schells or some shit who cares just leave.
SEC drops their lawsuit uh with Finance, which is also
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tied directly to the Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
So well, yeah, so so Finance is the world's largest
crypto exchange. The Biden administration, Uh well, I should say,
under the bid administration, the SEC put a massive lawsuit
that they were moving forward against Finance. And then yeah, magically,
as Trump cozies up to crypto investors and has his
(53:31):
mean coin that people can dump money into, and they
want to now roll out a stable coin as well,
the Trump uh, the Trump Crypto group all of a
sudden dismisses, uh this, this lawsuit against uh, the biggest uh,
you know, crypto exchange out there. By the way, I
really find it funny as anti China as this administration
(53:55):
and Republicans generally like to boast about, boy, they sure
don't mind taking care of rich Chinese individuals like Chimpang Chow,
who is the guy who is the founder of Bidence.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
Well, I mean that's their buddy, right, That's that's different.
I hate hate China. Here's an individual. It's funny how
that works they can understand individualism when it matters it's
financially beneficial to that. Yeah, I mean, if it ever
gets truly exposed, which I am not bullish on that
(54:30):
have for happening. Unfortunately, the level of financial corruption and
like double dealing that these guys have pulled off even
in this short amount of time is unbelievable, let alone
over the next you know, over the course of his
entire term.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Like it's just gonna be, like I said, the massively
incompetent and running government, but massively competent at doing crimes.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Right, Well, that's because that's what that's where they're focus.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
They're like, we're good at that.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
I don't know, change the Harvey milk boat name who
gives a ship? Like who cares? Oh ship two hundred
two point five billion dollars in cryptocurrency, let's fucking go
like that. That's where they're focus is. Of course, it's
like you could use your powers for good. They're like, no,
that's gross.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
We need to add more money, more money than we
could ever possibly need for this guy who's gonna be
fucking dead in two years in McDonald's hamburger or someone
so two months, Yeah, we can only we can only
be so lucky.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Please any day now, pray to whatever God you believe him.
Go to whatever church were, synagogue, synagogue. That's such a.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Great one.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Because he was an anti Simmer.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
All right.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Next up, Trump administration wants to create an Office of.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Remigration. I think it's I think it's remigration.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Remigration, which is just getting white people from all over
the world to come on home to a country they've
never lived in or belong to.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well not it's not only bringing whites in, it's more
pushing all of the other colors out, because, like, the
theory of emigration is something that you see in some
pockets in like certain Eastern European states essentially where not
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only do you want to get rid of migrants like
illegal well so called illegal migrants'sually undocumented migrants, but you
also want to get rid of people that quote unquote
haven't assimilated to the culture or the culture is as
you define it is probably a more accurate way to
say that, which which really just means white. Like That's
(56:51):
that's really what it boils down to. At the end
of the day. It's just like hey, you white, cool,
you can stay. Hey you're not get the fuck out
of here. So but now the State Department is going
to have an Office of Remigration essentially, which seems bad.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, no, pretty bad, pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
I often wonder, like they have they have a big problem, right, Like,
I mean, they have many problems, but they have one large, dark,
thirteen percent of the population problem. And I'm wondering what's
going to be their justification for trying to kick black
people out of the country. I'm serious, I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
Yeah, Like I think, why are you here, bitch? You
brought us here?
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, dude, we didn't want to come here, but not
by choice. Like, I feel like there is going to
like I feel like there's going to start to be
kind of a swirl of thoughts on this from like
right wing fucking bullshit, especially now that this is a
thing because they don't want black people here, like they
(57:57):
love to blame us for all of America's problems. And
I think corporations is the word you're looking for. But okay,
but it'll be interesting to see what is the argument.
I mean, they want to get rid of the fourteenth Amendment,
that that would be a pretty good one, Like, well, technically,
maybe you guys should go back to Africa with Elon, right.
(58:20):
But I'm very interested to see what their thought is
because I don't believe it's just like, oh, just lead
black people here, Like I don't think so at all.
Speaker 2 (58:28):
I mean we've we mentioned before, like I feel like
they're gearing up to this stuff, right because like they're
they're doing the frog boiling in the pot thing right
when it comes to immigration. Right now, we're there. So
you start off by like micro targeting, like hey, like
we're going after criminal undocumented Venezuelans and oh shit, we
(58:53):
accidentally round it up a bunch of non gang member
Venezuelans as well, or not Venezuelans El Salvagory. Yeah, to
be oh ship, we accidentally uh rouped up a bunch
of non gang member ol salbin Orians and deported them too.
Let's see what the temperature is on that. People get
upset the outrage ebbs, you know, because you can't just
(59:16):
keep up being mad about stuff for whatever. Right, Okay, cool,
we got away of that one. Let's try this again
and and and then you kind of move it out. Well,
then it becomes like what if we got at all
l Salvealreans. What if we go after all Haitians and
and we come up with a with a reason for that,
and you and you just kind of and you just
start slowly amping it up with you know what, what
(59:37):
what can you get away with? And and you got
to kind of test the fences to see what's happened.
That's why it's important to call this ship out when
you see it, like immediately, I mean that that's that's
that's the big thing in there is you gotta you
gotta be loud about it and point it out. And
and again, even if it's a situation like I don't
give a ship if every single l salba in that
(01:00:00):
they did round up into Port wasn't a gang, they
still deserve due process. Like you still have to be
consistent in that belief.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, it's the worst argument of like, well they're any right.
Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Like you still like you'd be like, oh, you know
if it's those guys, because again, they're not just going
to stop at those guys. That's where it starts.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
And it's going to Yeah, they get you used to it. Okay.
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