This week on Look Forward, the guys return to discuss the dystopian and destructive details from the budget bill passed by House Republicans this past week entitled "One Big Beautiful Bill," Media becomes obsessed with potential Biden mental health news from last year while ignoring the destruction of the Republican in real time, Senate Republicans temporarily nuke the filibuster in what can only be classified as "raptors testing the fences," Trump once again pauses his tariffs this time for the European Union at 50%, Trump administration shaking down African countries for Elon Musk's Starlink, more confirmation of insider trading from GOP during Trump's tariff nonsense, Mike Johnson continues to look the other way on massive crypto corruption, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode to Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So, the resident Mexican on the podcast. Jay has us
recording on American Memorial Day, not respecting the sacrifice, the
ultimate sacrifice made by the troops. Uh So, if Jay
would be so kind, I would like to read a
prepared statement that I have made, or that I have
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prepared for to celebrate Motial Day.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, go ahead, remember the remember the Alamo or whatever
it is you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Uh yeah, yeah, Jay's gone, Sepiot.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I'm going. I'm going full CP. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Happy Memorial Day to all, including the scum that spent
the last four years trying to destroy our country through
more radical left minds who allowed twenty one million million
people to illegally enter our country, many of them being
criminals and the mentally insane, through an open border that
only an incompetent president would approve, and through judges who
are on a mission to keep murders drug dealers, rate
this gag members and release prisoners from all over the
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world in our country so they can rob Burger at
Raith again, all protected by these USA hating judges. Who
suffer from an ideology that's sick and very dangerous for
our country. Hopefully, the United States Supreme Court and other good,
campassionate judges throughout the land will save us from the
decisions of the monsters who want our country to go
to hell. But fear not, we have made great progress
over the last four months and America will soon be
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safe and great again again. Happy Memorial Day, and God
bless America.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like that he starts off by saying, like, calling
people's scum, that's all that's salary is really fuck it?
Good job, Oh boy, we're back.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
My favorite part is he rates twenty one million and
then he says million right after that. So twenty one
million million people. Very well, that was the Yeah that, that,
of course was the truth. Uh. Posted by our actual
current president on this the day chosen out of the
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calendar year to remember soldiers who have died in America's
many conflicts throughout throughout the last two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, well, I mean an inspiring message. I mean, in fairness,
you gotta like, you gotta let them know about the scumbags.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Or whatever, the radical the radical left judges whoever.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, we're trying to destroy judicial authority. Okay, great, guys.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Again, Hey, but did you hear Joe Biden they might
have hid like they might have tried to keep Joe
Biden's mental acuities hidden during the U during the run
to the twenty twenty four Okay, I'm the junior, junior
because because Jake Caffer can't stop talking about it, even
on his show on CNN. He just can't stop talking
about it. Jay, did you hear that Joe Biden might
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have Jay? Jay, did you hear that they might have
tried to cover up Joe Biden's mental acuities in the
lead up to the twenty twenty four Central election? Jay,
have you heard about this? Joe Biden? It's mentally unwell.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The funny thing about that whole thing is like Joe
Biden has cancer. Right that that part's not funny obviously,
but like the entire sort of like wild response to
this started with, all right, Joe Biden has I guess,
stage four cancer, which I don't wish on anybody, unpressing cancer.
(03:43):
I don't wish that on anybody. I certainly don't wish
that on Joe Biden at all. But he so he
has he has he has cancers. That gets announced and
they're like, immediately Don Junior comes out with what I
can only assume is just a coke laced tweet, and
he's just like, well, why didn't doctor Jill Biden find it?
(04:05):
She's a doctor, it's like god, Like she has a
doctorate in education. Like for some reason, people without a
doctorate are mad that she referred to herself as doctor
Jill Biden, like as a professor. Like she didn't require
people to call her doctor Jill Biden while they were
in the White House, Like she wasn't like, yo, I'm
doctor Jill, Like what the fuck? What's going on? Don't disrespect?
(04:27):
Like she never did that right, And they were mad
that she went by doctor Joe Biden. You don't even
have a doctorate. She earned that doctorate. I don't give
a fuck if it's in underwater basket weaving. If I
had a doctorate, guess what in my professional environment? Fuck
it even in my non professional environment. I'm worse than
when they say about doctor Jill Biden. I would require it.
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I would have it under my face right now on
this show. What are you serious? So like his I
don't know if he was like so high that he
thought that because someone calls themselves a doctor, that they
mean that they're a medical doctor.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No. I choose to believe he's just that much of
an idiot that he thinks that everyone who's as the
title of doctor is medical doctor. And not only is
she a medical doctor, but she also is like the
primary care position for her husband, Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
She's not just she's not just a doctor. She's also
an oncologist.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
By the way, Oh yeah that too, Yeah, very good. Yeah,
it's like like very she has all the specialties, like
she's she's specialized in everything as all doctors are as.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know, right, have you heard have you heard doctor
Joe Biden? Oh yeah, So it comes out and then
this other story about like his top staff, you know,
hit his cognitive you know, situation potentially right, because I
don't think anyone knows, right, I don't care, Like at.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This point, you know what, Jay, you know what, Jay,
I do care. They've convinced me I'm not going to
support you by and for the twenty twenty presidential That's
that's that's that's what I've decided. Between between that and
and the process cancer diagnosis I'm officially out on Biden
twenty eight right, like you got you got me?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like okay, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Now now maybe maybe we can perhaps focus on the
mental acuities of the current president.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yea, yeah, that's where in the office for years, right,
who keeps having to take cognitive tests? He just keeps
having to take them for some strange reason. He said,
this dude is just doing them all all.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Who is alleging? Who is alleging on his recent run
through the Petrol states, uh, that he somehow has made
America five trillion dollars And people were like, oh, he
must have misspoke, he must have meant billion. No, no,
he definitely means five. Like, oh, no, I've made deals
to get US five trillion dollars from these oil states. Now,
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for people that don't aren't aware, the entire US GDP
on an annual basis is like thirty trillion dollars. So
according to Donald Trump, he has managed to bilk one
sixth of the of the national GDP from these petrol
states just by shaking hands and and you know, bacon
deals and swinging deals like that. Now, of course, no
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specificity has been given as to how five trillion dollars
is coming into the US. Do you need that thing?
You know? Fair? Fair, Hey, have you heard that Joe
Biden's team might have hit his mestal actulities?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Have you heard? I just I imagine at a certain point,
it's just like the news is just going to comprise
of them like covering shit, and then Jake Tapper's face
will slide in like like a dude from Mortal Kombat,
like have you heard?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Have you heard?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like let's see like every time trying to tell a story.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Like meanwhile, meanwhile, Scott Pelley of sixty Minutes, it went
viral today because he gave the commencement address at when
far As University and he talked about how like the
assault on the free press is happening right now, like
it's not coming, it's happening as we speak. Of course,
sixty Minutes has been a show specifically embattled by orders
from on high to maybe stop investigating things that they're investigating,
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and their executive producer left and all this other stuff.
But have you heard that Joe Biden's team might have
hidden his mental acuity in the lead up to the
twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know, you know the funny thing about it is
the way in which the news is doing that about
like hard focusing on this thing that, yes, you could say,
in the grand scheme of things, that's actually a real story, right.
I'm not even mad that you talk about it like
for a day or even two. But to pretend that
that is as big as what is literally going on
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right now, Like it's not like Mitt Romney as president
is just kind of like general Republican bullshit and we're
just like, all right, we're just going through it, like
I don't like this, Okay, that's not that bad whatever,
That's not what's happening. The country is in the fight
of its life to not become a fascist state, which
I would argue it is, okay, But to pretend that,
like the Joe Biden story is the most important thing
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right now is very weird. But what I'll tell you
what it sounds like this is the same attitude as
when I see far left folks screaming at Democrats about
like why are you doing enough? And it's like the
call is coming from the building right down the block
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where the Republicans are doing all of the things that
you're actually bitching at the Democrats for doing right. It's
because you know that it's easier to focus on Joe
Biden and a thing that doesn't that won't move the needle,
because Joe Biden isn't president, right. You know that yelling
and screaming about Joe Biden covering that wall as silicious
thing and will get you views doesn't actually do anything,
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because it's way harder for you to turn your your
fucking focus to the building down the street that goes, hey, man,
the White House is doing fascist shit and we need
to address it. Oh, but we're scared of this them
because they're gonna punch back, and when they do, we're
gonna have to fucking take and we're gonna have to
bend the knee over this. That's the same energy, it's
the same it's well attacking low hanging fruit that does nothing.
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It just does nothing well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And it's and it's funny because like the like the narrative.
Now that a lot of the media is trying to
drive as well, the Democrats are gonna have to have
a reckoning and have to deal with the fallout from
from the story. And I'm like, no, they already did,
like we like you saw the election happen, right, that
was the right We had to We had to scramble
and you know, replace him at the last minute, and
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and Kamala Harris got thrown in there, and you know,
and and Trump won and now he's the president. That's
the reckoning we're all living through, like like like it
already happened. So yeah, so like Joe Biden not running
for president or anything else in twenty twenty eight, So no,
we don't have to have a conversation about zero. What
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does this mean? Right, Yeah, I mean that that conversation
happen months ago, right, we know it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right, And and and the funny thing is what you're
arguing still comes down to, I really want to reopen
this wound so that we can talk about this, so
that we don't have to talk about this big swirling
piece of trash that's going on in the ocean at
this time. Like that's all it is, because it's really
scary to talk about the other thing because if they're
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really honest about what's going on, they fucked up. They
fucked up by not holding this guy accountable.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And you're I think I think you're I think you're
reading into it more ex Essentially, than it is. They
don't want to get sued by Yeah, yeah no, but that's.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What I'm saying. He will hit back, and they're they're
terrified that they're gonna either have to bend the knee
or I don't know, lose fucking ability to be on television.
Quite I mean quite seriously. Right, I understand, I understand
the impetus are being scared, but stop pretending this other
little Joe Biden's story is as big as this other thing,
this looming thing that you're just like I'm just not
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gonna look at it if I don't look at it
long enough, Like.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is he staring at me?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He's not staring at he Like it's the fucking Super
Mario level when like if you turn away from the sun,
like it starts like grimacing at you. Like just like
if I just pretend and it's not there, I can
just make it to the end. But you can't do that,
like you're you're doing that to the detriment of the society.
Like it doesn't work there with You're gonna have to
put big boy pants on and fucking deal with the
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ship and tell.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
People the actual app Super Mario Brothers analogy is that
the media is focused away and not looking at the boo.
That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So yeah, it's yeah, it's it's annoying the entire thing. Again,
I'm not saying it doesn't matter that Joe Biden potentially
what's cognitively the client. It does matter. How about we
go back and talk about Ronald Reagan in the same thing.
Republicans would be like, that's not true at all.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Zero, But Jay, why are you bringing up old shit?
Why do you try to do that?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. How you
guys had a person who who their son told you
that he was mentally deficient and you didn't believe him. Right,
But we know that's not true. Okay, then that's not true.
Then I don't Then I'm just gonna take the weird
hard stance that it is not true about Joe Biden either,
just fuck it because why why why even concede it? Like,
I don't care if Joe Biden is they're drooling and
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and just like running his fingers over his lips. I'm
not gonna concede it because because why right, Like that's
the same argument. Yeah, at this point, he doesn't fucking matter.
It just doesn't. All right, let's talk about them sucking
up the economy in UH and the country in unbelievable ways.
So the big, the big story this week is all
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about the big beautiful one, big beautiful bill, the OBBB
that basically just does exactly what everyone said that it
would do, which is give an unbelievable amount of money
to the rich and stripping it from the poor. And
we're all pretending to be shocked by this news, even
though Republicans, by the way, said that they would never
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do this, and they would never cut Medicare or Medicaid.
And remember when they bowed Joe Biden when he said
during a State of the Union that Republicans were going
to cut Medicaid and they booed him and screamed at him,
and Marjorie Taylor Green yelled like a howler monkey, how
he was a liar, And look at it, look at
it now, look at it. Now. They are, in fact
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cutting massive amounts of money out of Medicaid. Shocking.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. Yeah, So the so the the redistribution of wealth
is the big story out of there. I think it's
worth highlighting some of the other things that are that
are also jammed into this bill. We talked about the
moratorium on AI laws UH being able to be enacted
and enforced by states on the last episode of the
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podcasts that did make it through. Yeah, the Inflation Ruction
Act is basically getting stripped down to the studs, including
constantly green energy tax credits. Of course, they're not funding
the CFPD, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which they really
don't like because it actually helps people lots of money
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for the border. Don't worry about that. We want to
make sure that we get a shitload of money in
for the border. And of course we are limiting gender
affirming care starting in twenty twenty seven. Basically, if you
have healthcare through the Affordable Care Act, you don't get
gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Did you notice something about this, by the way, that
a lot of these things are going to go into
effect after the midterms of course. Yeah, yeah, so that great,
Everything is totally fine. I leave the Republicans in and
then immediately after the midterms all hell breaks loose and
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you're like, we shouldn't have done that. M hmm. Yeah,
like none of this ship is done by half instance, guys,
they are looking for you to not pay attention. That's it.
That's it, because if they were so all the time, right,
but if they were so sound about their ideas, you've
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put them in place. Now let people have an opportunity
to see the ship that you want to do. No, no, no, no, no, no,
absolutely not so well.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And to your point, you know, we'll talk about, you know,
shift and talk about the cost of the bill because
of course, you know, the the debt hawks that are
the Republican Party who don't want to add a single penny,
which doesn't you know, as we talked about this podcast,
doesn't actually matter, but they're always more than willing to
spend money on tact cuts for rich people because this bill.
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So they're gonna tell you that the bill cost three
point eight trillion dollars. But today's point, that's because of
all of these like expiration dates, like when they're sun
setting certain programs and stuff like that. So the actual
cost is going to be five point three trillion dollars
over over a ten year period. And they're all setting
that by cutting one point three trillion dollars from medicaid,
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SNAP and student loans specifically those those three portions specifically
obviously Medicaid they're going after with right, you know, force
work requirements for Medicaid, even though literally like seventy percent
of the people that are on Medicaid work, and I
feel like the other thirty percent are like children. So
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like like with some you know, with some unemployment.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
There are are they in Arkansas get to work?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well, I mean that is that is the irony of
all this is that, of course, the people that are
probably gonna get hurt the most by this are the
people that live in the states that typically elect Republicans
to federal positions. So again it's you know, putting putting
the boot directly on your own face, because these people
can't bother to learn anything about how these things impact them.
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But they're just like, oh, Democrats bad trans I don't
like trands, and I do like Jesus, and I don't
like abortions. So I got to vote for Republicans even
though they are going to make my life literally.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Worse, exponentially worse. Well, and the best part of this,
again is that all of this shit is banging on
your ignorance, right, it is banging on you hearing about this.
Republicans will boost up all the parts that they think
are great, Hey, one day you'll be a billionaire, and
so you'll benefited all these things, right, and these these
people eat this bullshit up, and then they wait to
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the midterms. You have already as a voter, you have
likely already turned the fuck off, right, and then, like
I said, all the shit if Republicans stay in power,
all of this shit goes into power or goes into effect,
and they and they they fuck you. And then you go, well,
what's happening? And guess what, You've got two more years
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to live through all hell, and they hope by then
things are still so bad that you turn off again
around election time. But more importantly, what you like. It's
not just understanding that this shit is happening. It is
to understand who is voting for this shit. Because one
of the big things that is very easy is Trump
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is ruining the economy or Trump is bad, blah blah blah.
This isn't even Trump, right, not directly. This is the
Republican party in it of itself, right, this is the
House Republicans. At this point, We'll see what the Senate does,
but which will largely pass it, but maybe like change
four things out of it, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I mean, we'll see Republican senators have come out
and said that, hey, like we don't like the cuts
to MEDICAI and SNAP and stuff like that. So like that,
and and there are actual like debt hawks in the Senate,
like Rand Paul has been bitching and moaning on national
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TV for a couple of weeks now about the bill
that's coming out of the House. Like, I don't think
no matter what they do, if they're adding money to
the debt, that Rand Paul is gonna vote for it.
Maybe maybe they'll let him bitch about it on the
Senate floor for two hours and that'll that'll assuade him.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, he will vote to bill. He will vote for
one hundred percent Rand Paul. Look, you can you can
say whatever you want about Ron Paul, and I could
go on for hours. Okay, I just never found the appeal.
I've really just never did. But you can give Ron
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Paul this. He was a person of his word, even
though it made no fucking sense in reality. If he
was like, look, I'm a fucking deficit hawk, or you know,
like I just don't agree with adding you know, four
trillion dollars to the deficit, I don't give a fuck
what's in the bill. Even if it's all this grick
draconian ship that I would absolutely agree with if I
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could get it done for free, he wouldn't vote for it.
Ran Paul likes to play that game and say, oh,
I'm just like my fucking dad. Rand Paul goes along
with all of that ship. On the rarest of occasions,
he goes, okay, guys, now hold on a sort or.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, yeah. He basically does not like to be the
vote that will keep it from passing. He's happy to
He's happy to have the the Bernie Sanders no vote
on something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, but allow me to vote no when I know
it's going.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
To fail, right, right, to make it look good. But
but but the point is that it doesn't. It doesn't
seem like the Senate's gonna rubber stamp this version of
the bill. Now, no, they I don't have to think.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think it's just going to be small tweaks. To
be honest, I don't think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You're you're probably you're probably correct. So and and the
stuff that I don't think is going to survive the Senate,
or the stuff that I do think would still survive
in the Senate version is going to be a lot
of the Inflation Reduction Act, like the green energy investments
that the Inflation Production Act made. That shit is going
to get fucking stripped out basically, which you're going to see. Yeah,
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tons of jobs that we're going to be created, lost,
tons of money that would have made its way into
the economy lost. Basically, what they're requiring is that like
all these green energy projects have to be started by
like twenty twenty nine in order to qualify for the credits.
Like that's the timetable they're putting on it. But because
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of how much regulatory red tape there often is and
getting those projects off the ground, they know that a
lot of the stuff won't be able to get started
by this, so they just basically won't you know, qualify
for those credits that are currently in there. They're going
to strip those out basically. And again this goes and
it fucks Republicans because typically when they build these new
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like solar farms, wind farms, stuff like that, they typically
do it in rural areas. You can't fucking put a
solar farm smack dab in the middle of the city.
It doesn't fucking work. That way, you need a big
ass fucking open plot of land that doesn't have a
lot of fucking trees or buildings are shit around it,
so that the sun could fucking shine down on it,
which is gonna only help like typically rural states and
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rural areas. So again, all this money that could have
come into Republican areas to help the economy, fuck that.
We're gonna We're gonna go ahead and strip that out.
We're gonna get rid of that ship. Your electric vehicle
tax credits they're fucking going away too. They're they're they're
going out the door as well. The very popular seventy
five credit is going away. Why probably because Elon Must
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wanted it to because exactly because weirdly, it doesn't help Tesla,
because it helps the competitors around Tesla.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yep uh, Look, I'm not surprised. Pass Through Business Income deduction.
It permanently extends and expands the twenty percent deduction for
pass through business income and puts it to from twenty
percent to twenty three percent, which just benefits rich people
like that's who, that's who it is, right. This is
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this is basically when you when you own a business,
you're able to like you're able to take your personal
like you're you're basically able to couple your personal deductions
into your business.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know who's really good at doing that is a
person who has a brand called UH that's named after them.
So this was a big thing during his first term,
and they are increasing it because hey, why not U
there was a there's a weird thing about getting deductions
on home tanning beds like that. Gotta put it in there. Gee,
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I can't imagine who that's for. What a weird thing
to be very specific about that being necessary. The UH
the idea that the state tax exemption has increased to
fifteen million dollars in twenty twenty six, or will increase
to fifty million dingusted for inflation thereafter, significantly reducing tax
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liabilities for wealthy estates.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So here there you go, and and and there's a
there's a a chart going around that Wharton put together
kind of looking at the household in from that. Yeah, yeah,
I know, right of this bill, So the the two
lowest tax brackets, but like basically the bottom fifty percent
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of Americans will actually end up paying well, we'll actually
lose money on these bills because of these things. If
you are in like the like from fifty to or sorry,
bottom forty percent lose money. Forty to eighty percent, you're
getting back a little bit more, but like two brand
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maybe something like that. If right, if you're in that
eighty to ninety nine percent range, you're getting back at
most like twenty Like your your in household I'm going
to go twenty grand, pretty pretty good. But at that point, like,
do you need the money if you're in that high
of a bracket, probably not. Uh, the bottom nine tenths
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of the top one percent, so the ninety nine to
ninety nine point nine percent uh income earners in this country,
we'll see an extra forty thousand dollars annually on their
household income. And the top non important, the top ten
percent of the top one percent will see and increase
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of nearly four hundred thousand dollars coming back to them
annually as a result of these cuts.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, by the way, is that a lot of money
for the top it's not, but it's really not right.
But it's a real fuck you to poor people, Like
it's a real thank I do want to quickly you
touched on snap cuts. Right, they're tightening the eligibility of
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for that program, shifting seventy five percent of the administrative
costs to the states, and penalizing the states if they
have an error rate above six percent. So what do
you think happens in red states when it comes to
those SNAP benefits? Bye bye?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right, Yeah, they're just the states really well, we're not
going to spend this money, so we're just going to
find done done.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
So, so good luck to getting seventy five percent of
your SNAP benefits in red states. Again, who are you
trying to hurt here? I mean, the one thing that
Republicans and Trump have very specific Trump specifically have done
that I think is actually fascinating and is I don't know.
(27:50):
I don't want to say helpful because people suffer from this,
but it's helpful from a like political visioning right perspective,
is you get to see what liberals talk about, how oh,
democrats pay so much more and are so much more
protective of their citizens in blue states than what happens
in red states. Republicans are like, that's not true. It's
(28:10):
great living in red state or whatever. But now you're
watching because anytime they rip all these benefits out, who
do they disproportionately hurt people in red states. These are
the people who need to help the most, and your
state representatives and your governors and things aren't even willing
to help you locally. The federal government was fucking you know,
(28:32):
fitting the bill to make sure you were taken care of.
But now the federal government is in the hands of
people who don't give a shit about anybody, and your
state government doesn't give a shit about you locally, and
you're lost. Like, look, they're shifting seventy five percent over
to blue states administrative costs over the Blue states. You
know what's gonna happen. They'll eat it and keep going, right,
(28:53):
They're not gonna be fucking happy about it, but they're
gonna do it. Maybe they have to reduce benefits a
little bit, but I can guarantee you they're not gonna
drops They're not going to just drop it completely like
the Red states will. The Red states will drop it
completely there there will be no benefits for a snap.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Or very And that's the and that's the iriny is
that if you are in a blue state because of this,
like federally like will be helpful, yes, but then you're
probably going to get hit on the backside with state
taxes because of the extra burden that's being placed on states,
so that that game becomes a net a net neutral
or a loss, even depending on what's going on. And oh,
by the way, have you heard, like terrifts are still
(29:30):
you know, even though calmed down, still higher than they
ever have been prior to like nineteen thirty.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So, by the way, they I don't know if you heard,
they are pausing the tariffs the fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, we'll get to.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
That, Okay, it's it's later on. It's later on. Have
you heard have you heard?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Have you heard? Hey, Jay, have you heard? Joe Biden
might not have been all there.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You might, it's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's that's the important thing to talk about here.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah. Absolutely, the one big beautiful Biden is up for
here's your episode, so I need to jump that down. Yeah,
you mentioned earlier border security funding. They are giving seventy
billion dollars to border security, including forty six and a
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half billion to border barriers and funding to increase capacity for.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Is Christine nomes new jet incorporated into that cost as
well that she wants.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I don't know if it's in the cost but I
have to imagine the seventy billion dollars does include hiring
stalkers for the upcoming Christinome who wants to be an
immigrant America citizen, the American citizen deportation jail. Yeah, so
seventy billion dollars, good job, everybody cool? Hey, Democrats, if
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you do ever get in power day one, reverse all
of it shit, Okay, Like, get this shit the fuck
out of here, because this is nonsense. Like, we cannot
afford if Democrats ever decide to fight back hard and properly.
We cannot afford to leave the ship as it is
and be like, well, let's just like work with this
(31:16):
and then move forward. No, this has to be reversed.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
But again, that that's the whole fucking problem though, man,
is that like again, because of how the media works
around this shit and how they frame this stuff, like
if you cut, if you cut seventy billion from border security,
that the media narrative is, oh, democrats give up on
policing the border or something along those lines. Yep son
(31:42):
until the playing field is level or just fair or
or based in reality. Yeah, I mean, that's one of
the reasons why the terriffs, Like when Biden got in
there twenty twenty one. Why those first term Trump terarifs
on China didn't go anywhere, it's because if you remove
them all of a sudden, it's like, oh, Biden, you know,
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get thrown Americans at the wolves of the of the
Red Scourge in China like that, Like that would have
been the fucking narrative for at it. So they didn't
do it because they knew that that's how it would
be portrayed. Because again the media refuses to call things
what they are or or refuses to like, you know,
like it wouldn't be framed. Oh Biden reverses, you know,
(32:25):
overreaching Trump tariffs is you know, no, Biden gives up
an American manufacturing.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, piculate, Yeah, I mean look that, you know. I
I occasionally, just because sometimes I like to try to
give myself brain damage in real time. I occasionally watch
those like Jubilee things where it's like one person versus
like twenty other people that disagree with them. The latest
one is Jordan Peterson versus twenty eighteists. Jordan Peterson is
(32:53):
an insane person, and it kind of proves that he's
just has a really great vocabulary but a fucking idiot
like okay, Like I don't want to hear anything else
from that guy about like, oh he's so smart. He isn't.
But the thing about that is, I want one of
twenty intelligent liberals or or media skeptics, intelligent media skeptics
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versus a fucking standard fucking CNN or Fox News or
even MSNBC journalists like a Jake Tapper or whatever. I
want you to defend the shittiness of your fucking work
because over the last twenty to thirty years you have
done a horrendous job. You've done a horrendous job. Why
do you fucking not why are you so afraid to
(33:38):
call balls and strikes when it comes to Democrats and
liberal or Democrats and Republicans? You don't You don't like
you said if Joe Biden said, all right, we're done
with those fucking tariffs or whatever, Uh, well, why would
Joe Biden give up on America? But six months ago
you said that these terrors were fucking unfair and ridiculous.
But the second it's like it's like being it's like
(33:58):
watching a little kid. I don't like thing. I don't
like to say here it is I love this thing now,
Please don't ever change it. If you change it, I
hate you forever. You're like, you just didn't like it
two minutes ago. It's like, yeah, but now I'm used
to it and now I love it, so I'm gonna
defend it with all my heart. But that's not how
reality has to work, right. You don't have to deal
with shit like that. You deal with it in what
(34:18):
came before, give the context, what Trump did, give the context,
and what Joe Biden does. Give the context. Don't just go,
Joe Biden, change this thing so it equals bad because
you don't do that with Republicans. You don't. And it's
because and I honestly, it's the same thing we say
about Republican politicians. The media knows that Democrats will take
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it because they know that the Democrats are the adults
in the room. They know this, They know this. That's
why the narratives are fucking lopsided. They don't make any
sense because they don't They know for a fact that
if they call out Republicans for what they actually do,
they're gonna get a bunch of bull bullshits screaming and
hollering because they know that it feels unfair to call
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the guys who are fucking shit up on fuck.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But here's but here's the iron hurting the democracy. Dude,
you're hurting, but forget the democracy, here's the army. They're
still getting fucked by the Republicans. Like the whole reason
that they capitulated this stuff is because they don't want
to get attacked, they don't want to lose access. But
Trump is still suing media companies. When was the last
(35:27):
guess who? The Associated Press still is not invited to
White House press briefings because they refuse to call it
the Gulf of America. Literally, that's the reason that the
Trump administration. And meanwhile that they're they're willing to invite
any right wing podcast asshole to sit in with these
same serious journalists scare quotes that I'm using right now.
(35:51):
So it's happening anyway. And again we've said it about
like the universities that capitulate the Trump, and he said
it about like the law firms that capitulate the Trump. Uh,
they're going to like the way you stand up to
a fascist is not by rolling over, because once you
do that, they're saying, ah, they're weak we can keep
hitting them, we can keep leaning on them to get
what we want. The way you stand up is to
(36:11):
fucking punch them in the fucking mouth.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's the way you do that. Stop listening, like like
if you're CBS or ABC or whoever, don't listen to
your fucking legal counsel and be like, hey, you know,
it'd be a lot easier just to pay fifteen million
dollars to fucking settle this, because as soon as you
do it, they're like, ah, they fucking got them. Let's
go after them again for the next the next received
step out?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Why protection money? Man? How is you never like, have
any of you watched a mob movie before? Like, hey,
this is a this is a nice university. It's a
shame if something were to happen to and you're like, well,
here's some money. They come back next month, dude, they
come back next month because they got you the second
you fucking roll over and they got you. Now you know,
(36:53):
with the mob, they'll break your fucking kneecaps, right, and
so you're like, I gotta pay the money because I
don't want to die. However, these guys are just like
we're going to sue. You fight them, you have money.
Trump is fighting Harvard right, telling them that they can't
have any students from foreign countries. On what planet is that,
American dude? On what planet is that fucking one legal?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And just Harvard by the way, it's not like every
other university being like hey, like yeah, just Harvard, right.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So it's like they're not allowed to have foreign students.
It's considered the top school in the country, right, Like,
I get it. I believe you guys all fight it
out whatever you're all over price bullshit anyway, but like
it's considered number one, number two, depending on if you
jerk off at Yale or not. But you're telling them
that they're not allowed to have certain students. Arguably some
(37:46):
of the smartest people in the world come to work
there or to go to school there. And he's like, well,
they're not gonna They're they're not even saying like we're
not going to give federal dollars, which they are already
saying they're not going to do, but they're also saying
that we will not approve visus for students for foreign
students who go to there. What the fuck man, why
(38:09):
because your dumb fucking son didn't get into that school?
Why because Obama's kid got in? Like that's literally all
it is. Why because they obnoxiously corrected that statement that
your dumb education secretary sign. Yeah they should have fucked her, right,
But like you're just going after them. But that's somehow
(38:32):
that somehow needs to be called as like a oh,
that's a crazy story. But have you heard about Joe Biden? Like, yo,
what are we doing right now? Like that's a crazy story,
But it's not just a crazy story because it's crazy.
It's a crazy story because it's dystopian and its fucking
fascist behavior. That's why it's a crazy story. Like it
feels like they miss the reason why people are bad
about it, Like it's just so weird. Woll they're really
(38:54):
picking on Harvard. That's a crazy story, all right? Next up, No, motherfucker,
that's a Canarian of coal mine set you. If he
can do that to them, what can he do to
other schools if he gets hardd to bend the knee?
And thankfully they have not. Look what he did to Colombia, Colombia.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So what happened to Columbia? Like they're smart enough to
be like, yeah, like they're not gonna roll over and
die like Columbia did.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Right, and guess what, not everyone is that smart, right,
Not everyone is that smart? And look, unfortunately somebody's gotta
go down first, right, so everyone goes, well, I mean fuck, I.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Mean a ABC paid paid him off for the Stephanoppoles
thing fifteen million dollars. They're like, yeah, we don't want
this heat, we don't want this fucking smoke. They're looking
to go in after ABC again like like like for
some more.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Lessons to learn, right, well, lessons learn. And the funny
thing is ABC won't. ABC won't go and I can
tell you, I can guarantee you this is how it goes.
ABC will be like, all right, we're not gonna pay
as much, right, Like they're not gonna just fight. They're
gonna say, all right, we're not gonna pay as much,
and they're gonna try to negotiate it down a little
bit for whatever the original costes. And they're gonna try
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to negotiate it down. Learn your lesson the first time, dummy,
Learn your lesson the second time, dummy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Right, they get it. It's the old madge hold me once.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know It's like, how do you not
pick up on this? How do you know? It's like,
I just how do you not pick up on this?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
These are mom because you're listening, because you're listening to
the wrong people. You're listening to the lord listening. You're
listening to the fucking suits. You're listening to the lawyers,
the executives who are just like, just make this go away.
We don't want to fucking hear about it. We don't
want this to be a story, we don't want to
have to deal with this. But that's not how this
ship fucking works. Man. Again, the smartest theory you've ever
(40:38):
had in your entire life, that I that I will,
that I continue to profess, is that too many people
in this world have never been punched in the face,
and they really ought to be punched in the face
more to realize that that ship is you know what
it's like to punch somebody else in the face, right
like you.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You need to understand where the lines are in life,
you do, like otherwise you get people like Donald Trump
who were habitual line steppers. That's how I know that
guy's never gotten blasted in the face straight up like
where he was like he said some wild shit as
a kid and somebody was like, what the fuck and
just punched him in the mouth. There's no way because
he would have learned in life to go if I
(41:16):
say this, like you just learn, Like you can't just
say and do whatever the fuck you want in society.
Doesn't mean you're gonna get punched the face as an adult.
You probably should, but like, it doesn't mean that. But
there are consequences to things that you say. It is
a hard lesson that people should learn, and the less
people get punched in the face, the worst society gets.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
So much of what you're saying is we have a
third We have a third stop on our time travel,
on our time travel to do list, kill Hitler, kill Reagan,
punch Donald Trump in the face as a youth.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Uh No, I don't think that. I don't think that's accurate.
It's it's kill kill Hitler, kill Reagan, punch Donald Trump
in the face. Uh Sports Almanac, you get a do
a company going back punched from.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
In the face by Applestock and nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Three, figure out how you make friends with Bill Gates, Like,
just put me on the team, man, Look, have.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You seen it?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Have you heard about a mouse? You know, I stole
it from Xerox too. You're now right, But yeah, I
just I truly believe that, like that idea of not
being an habitual linestepper is a really important lesson you
need to learn as a kid through the hands of
another kid. Like you just you just do And this
(42:33):
is this is not just dudes, by the way, I
think I think women should also get blasted in the
face by other girls. Like when you're young, you just
say some washing and another girls like the fuck and
they just punch you in the face and you're like,
oh shit, I didn't know I shouldn't do that. Boom everybody.
Then you can have a nice egalitarian society and nobody
says and you wash it. That's it. You don't hit
(42:55):
the other gender. That's not cool. I'm not advocating for that.
I'm specifically saying gender on gender punching each other in
the face, that's almost is an intro gender thing. Yeah, okay,
so let's talk about let's talk about let's jump into news.
You need Senate nukes filibuster to stript states rights to
regulate emissions.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, so quite famously, car companies in this kind, so
states have the right to set their own environmental standards. Essentially,
in this country, that's called federalism, get rid of it. Famously,
automakers tend to design and develop automobiles around the California
(43:38):
standard because California is the biggest auto market. It also
happens that California has the strictest environmental standards of any
state in the country, which automakers really don't like. So
the Senate decided to put to a vote to be
able to strip California of that authority to have state
(44:01):
specific limits for tailpipe pollution, specifically that are more restrictive
than the federal standard, which is much less restricted than California. However,
because this isn't a budgetary maneuver, it requires sixty votes
to end debate to move on to voting in the Senate,
And even though the parliamentarian said, hey, you guys can't
(44:24):
do this at violet Centate rules, they went ahead and
did the quote unquote fabled nuclear option so that they
could end debate with just fifty votes us so that
they could jam this vote through anyway. Cool, So.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Should we get rid of the filibuster in the future, guys,
I don't know, maybe we should fucking have to.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I mean, like, this this is the this is the
canary in the coal mine, This is the raptor testing
the fence because they're doing it with something that is
incredibly benign, that's hyper specific, and they're gonna wait to
see if anyone fucking let's says anything about it. Here's
the funny thing. I bet you a lot of people
(45:07):
listening to this podcast, this is the first you've heard
of this. And there's a specific reason that I wanted
to bring it up on the show because again, like
we've heard for years, all we got to keep the
filibuster in place, it's so important. Well, guess what Republicans
have shown, just like we told you they would. If
it's something they really don't like, they have no problem
bouncing that ship out of the way.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And you're you're absolutely right, this is a this is
a raptor's testing defence thing because this is not this
is not important to them. It really isn't. But it's
just to see, hey, am I am I look them
am I say anything? No, Oh, shits on, let's go Like, so,
guess what if you don't think they're going to use
this for some major ship. You're wrong, You're wrong, and
(45:53):
it's gonna be shit that hurts your feelings. I can
guarantee you it's gonna be shit that hurts you feeling. Yes,
it's gonna This is going to be on some like, well,
do we really need to make sure that these people
are protected? Exactly? Do we really need to make sure
that like are these people really citizens?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah? And again they won't. They won't do it as
a wide squat. They will like Venezuelans. Ah, we can
get Venezuelans out here. They're fucking dangerous their country once
the three hundred Yeah, in the fucking megaprison.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, who cares? Who gets the Yeah. Again, they are
banking on you not paying attention. They are banking on
you not caring, and you cannot afford to make them
correct here. You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
And also remember this because because you know what, for
for all that people, some people in the Senate are
wringing their hands about this. I agree with them. The
filibuster is overused. It's a silly thing. And let let
let parties govern the way they want to govern and
allow the people to see the full breadth of what
(47:05):
they voted. Yeah, trust me, Trust me when I tell
you the things that Democrats want to pass will be
widely met with happiness from people, and the things that
Republicans want to pass will really piss people off.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So yeah, get rid of the filibuster. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah. And this is the thing, Oh well, it will
hurt people. I'm sorry people not being hurt now, Like
what the fuck? Like what ends up happening is when
you have the filibuster and you're using it in this like, oh,
I'm just gonna like stop debate or I'm gonna I'm
gonna you know, I'm gonna stop this thing from happening.
You're right, it is. You are not allowing people to
(47:41):
see what they truly voted for or apathetically did not
vote for and stayed home when those things start to
hit and you go, what the fuck, I'm not cool
with this. Good now you can see how bad this
thing is. But Democrats, when they get in power and
you get fifty five fucking votes in the Senate and
(48:02):
you still can't get shipped done if you were like,
they never get anything done. They don't understand what the
filibuster is. They don't know, you have no idea what
it is, right, So Democrats get stopped, Republicans get stopped.
Let let them do what they're gonna do, and then
you can understand. If people like your shit, they keep
voting in. If they fucking hate the ship that you do,
(48:23):
they vote your ass out.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So simple as that.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Why you need to hide behind it. Why we're gonna
stop these people.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
From voting because it because it keeps them from doing
bold things, which is really what they like to do
at the end of the day anyway. Yeah, so yeah,
I like we used to be used to be a
country that actually did shit. Not that long ago too.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It wasn't that long ago. And now we're just fucking
shit up like that's that's really our that's our that's
our remo now with just how do we fuck it up?
Is this the thing that's working? Yeah? How do we
fucking up?
Speaker 2 (48:55):
All? Right? Cool?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Sent in America? Like we got it really Fortunately, Donald
Trump delays imposing fifty percent tariffs on EU until July ninth.
Turns her on, turns off, turns.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah literally literally, uh last week comes out threatens like, hey,
we're gonna throw down fifty percent tariffs on everything from
the EU. Uh literally today. Uh, and it's gonna happen
in early June. Literally today, we're gonna kick that down
the road about five weeks. Good job, dude.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So are tariffs designed to bring jobs back to America
or nah? Because it seems like is just a negotiating tact.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
It sounds like Selsi is really just a tactic to
get people that he doesn't like to answer his phone calls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think that's a big part of it. Way, Like,
I think there's like a level of like ego to it.
He's like, like he calls Macron, Macron's like I'm picking
up fuck that guy. It's like tiff, He's like, all right,
what do you want?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
What why are you calling? Hey? I just wanted to see, like, uh,
do do French girls shave their armpits? Like uh? And
he just hangs out like he's got to fucking intelligence
at four year old. Yeah. I think that's really it.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I think that's what And it's funny because really like
and it's a shame that again, like the other people
on the other side of the phone have to be
the adults in the room, because I'm sure that they
would like to be like, Hey, what we really said
was like, hey, do you really wanna do you really
want to fuck with us? Do you really want us
to reciprocate this ship the other way? Hey, here's here's
a list of the things that we buy from you.
(50:31):
You really you really want to fucking play this game?
How did go with China? Didn't go too great?
Speaker 1 (50:37):
No, what'd you think? What did you think? The fucking
EU doesn't buy anything from America? Okay, you think you
don't buy anything from Europe? Okay, like you do, though
you do, but it is it's just it's very, very silly.
The tariff thing is a waste, guys, like this is
(50:58):
a waste. All the doing is one fucking up your money.
That is all it is doing is fucking up your
money and creating massive uncertainty. But it is not helping anything,
does not bringing any jobs back. It is not it's
not doing anything. Like interestingly enough, I've seen a number
of reports this past week about Apple and Apple's work
(51:20):
in China. Are you aware of are you aware of
this whole thing with them? So like Trump, Trump has
been like banging the drum, like listen to Tim Apple,
You're gonna start building these phones in the US.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well, so that was the thing, right, So the whole
saga with this was right. So he imposes the big
tarifs in China. Now, mind you, since the first Trump term,
Apple has spent billions of dollars, billions of dollars outsourcing
some of their iPhone production, moving it from China to
like India, basically right, because they're just like, holy shit,
like if somehow Trump or some other China hawkets in,
(51:54):
like this could be a problem again, so we should
have a contingency plans for some of our biggest products.
They're moving a lot of stuff to India. So Trump
threatens the big tariffs on China, the big tariffs on India,
which of course got paused and every other country in
the world. Apple goes to him quite rightly, so and
it's like, hey, you're fucking up our fucking bag here.
(52:16):
What are you doing, you dumbass? This is not going
to go well for you if you do this. He
gives them. He gives smartphones except and at laptops an exception,
as you recall that that was one of the things
that was accepted from this tariffs that he posted. And
and everything's cool, for a while, and then you know,
Apple's talking about like, hey, we're gonna move more phone
production because of course that's you know, there's still the
thirty percent Chinese tariffs that are on right now, Hey,
(52:38):
we're going to move this stuff to India. And now
Trump is like, hey, like I'm going to put a
fifty smartphone tariff on iPhones no matter where they come from,
if it's not America, And hey, that wouldn't be very
fair to Apple. So We're gonna do a fifty percent
tariff on all smartphones that aren't made in the US.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Like okay, Like again, we went all the way around
Robin Hood's barn to do what exactly I mean.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
And and Tim and Tim Cook is gonna call him
and be the Trump whisper because for some for some reason,
Tim Cook, it's reported, is like absurdly good at talking
him off the ledge. I don't know why. It's very weird,
like like Tim Cook for some reason is able to
calm him down and get what he wants and do
it like in a very private fashion where he's not
(53:26):
going on Twitter and just like putting Trump on blast
and ship like that. It's very strange.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, I don't know. Uh, maybe maybe he's got like
a maybe maybe Trump uh has like a thing for
like powerful gay billionaires because like you know Roy Cone.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I mean, I mean he's got Scott in his cabinet, Like.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Maybe that's like his thing. He's like, I just love
those guys. Yeah, they seem so cool, they're so rich.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
So here, here's the thing, the the Apple thing I
did not realize. So the whole thing that you pointed out, yes,
that is all true that, but that wasn't what I
was referring to. So Apple's investment in China is, to
put it mildly unbelievable, right, Yes, they are moving things
to India because they want to they want to spread out, right,
(54:11):
like they're playing it fucking smart. But they're doing the
same It seemingly they're doing the same thing in India
potentially as what they did in China. Do you know
how much they've invested in China over the last five years?
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Oh, in five years. If I had to guess that's
the number is committed to spender, committed to spending, I
would guess probably half a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Two hundred and seventy five billion. Right, Okay, so I
was overshot, Yeah, yeah, just a little bit. But here
you did. But here's what I'm gonna give you a
lot of credit. Here two hundred and seventy five billion
dollars over the course of five years, which is double
with the US spent to rebuild Europe with a Marshall
Plan after World War Two, which is fucking insane. But
(54:55):
here's here's the course. Is that is that adjusted for inflation? Yes,
I' yes crazy, that's crazy, right, Like that's how much money,
by the way, just exists in the world that like
this computer company is like whatever, I back then, we
could have just rebuilt Europe twice, right, we could have
given them spaceships back then. We have so much money.
(55:15):
But here's the wild thing what they do in China
and the reason why they have such an unbelievable grip
on China in a lot of ways, Like they have
a low amount of the like what is it they have?
They have a low amount of the market share of
phones in the world, like surprisingly low, but like the
(55:39):
highest amount of revenue from cell phones, which is fucking wild.
And not just because they're expensive, because like there are
plenty of expensive phones. Right, It's not like, oh, Apple's
the only one with a thousand dollars phone. They aren't, okay,
But it's because what they do in China, which again
they're they're trying to seemingly mirror in India, is they
basically went to China and said, listen, well, we'll make
(56:00):
the phones over with you guys, but you're only allowed
like we're gonna pay your guys like a pittance, like
like just straight up, we're not paying you guys, damn
near anything. Fuck you. But what we're going to do
is we're going to do all the training so that
not only do you yes, your guys make the phones,
(56:20):
and yes, they won't make a lot of money, but
what will happen is their level of training. Because this
isn't the people just like small children putting parts together.
These are the fucking high end engineers doing this shit, right.
The level of training is elite. Right, So like when
when Trump comes out and says they just move the
phone production to the US, and people are like, now,
(56:42):
they really can't. It's not just factories, dude, It is
billions upon bill hundreds of billions of dollars in training alone.
That's actually far out pacing the two hundred and seventy
five billion dollars that they spent, right, because that's like
factory building shit, that's not that's not that's not counting
the amount of money and training, which probably get some
closer to a half a trillion dollars right right. So
(57:04):
what they do is they say, listen, we'll give you
this elite amount of training. So I was watching this
whole report about it, and this guy was saying, listen.
Everyone says, oh, Apple is the one who killed like
the Nokia phones and shit like that, Like they just
destroyed them in the market. They didn't. That's not what happened.
When they came into China and trained these guys for
a pittance, right, these terrible shitty salaries, but they trained
(57:26):
them to be fucking these elite engineers. When they did that,
those guys left Apple. So a bunch of them left
Apple and they started building iPhone like copies and shit.
And those copies were so fucking good, not good enough
to compete with Apple, but they were so good that
those copies destroyed all of the other phone companies inside
(57:47):
China and in the East, right like, and actually around
the world, right So it's not that Nokia got destroyed
by Apple. They got destroyed by Apple clones because Apple
had been spending so much money in time training these
elite fucking engineers, and that's what they're doing, and that's
what they're gonna end up doing in India. So they
they end up dominating by not spending tons of money. Well,
(58:08):
I mean, they do spend a lot of money, but
that's not what their goal is. Their goal is to
make the best engineers that they make, so many people
who can do the high level shit that they want
to do in their phones. America can't copy that that fast.
You can't copy that shit in three years. It's impossible.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
You can't. You can't copy it at all because you'd
have to fucking pay people in America, like like, you
can't get away with paying them a quarter of what
they're worth, you know, you know, for the skills that
they have essentially exactly.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
So yeah, it's it's fascinating Apple Apple is And this
may lead to why and all honestly not just because
Tim Cook is gay. I don't give a shit about that,
but that may be the reason why he can talk
to Trump the way he does, because He's like, listen, motherfucker,
I could destroy your entire shit. Like, you cannot put
(58:59):
these tariffs on my It's incredibly popular in the US.
Nobody's trying to pay three thousand dollars for a fucking phone. Two.
My hooks are so deep into these countries. You have
no fucking idea. Like well, and that's the thing about Tim,
People realize that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Right when when when Steve Jobs passed away and Tim
Cook took over Apple, people a lot of people were
surprised because they hadn't really heard of him. You know why,
because Tim Cook his whole fucking deal at Apple was logistics.
Like he was the fucking logistics guy. Like he was
the guy that fucking moved them into China and got
their production to scale that was unheard of at that point.
(59:37):
And and like you to that point is still kicking.
And again, like Apple's not alone in that respect. Like again,
the reason why, and we talked about this in previous episodes,
the reason why you can't just build up American manufacturing
is because China is so is leagues ahead of us
in terms of just efficiency and technology and stuff like that.
(59:59):
For manufacturing specifically, they have the ship unlock. It would
take decades for the US to get to where China is,
and would frankly take a good relationship with China, because
who the fuck like you think we're just gonna learn
this stuff on our own. No, you have people come
fucking show you, right, and you do.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
It, and you've now made the country toxic against the
idea of bringing in people from other countries.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Right again, I'm gonna need And that's not just a
Republican fault to you, by the way, there are plenty
of Democrats who are a lot of anti China bullshit
stuff like that, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It does bring up a thing that drives me crazy.
I need the media to do many things better, a
myriad of things. But I need people to start asking
a really serious question. Even if you get shot down,
go down, swing it, all these cuts and all this
destructive shit you're doing, what is it actually helping? What
(01:00:58):
is alienating young brilliant kids from around the world coming
to Harvard? What is that helping?
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah? Bye bye? By the way, you know who's opening
up their arms in the wake?
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, China's like, hey, we got schools over here too.
You would have learned how to be fucking engineers and
shit like that. We got you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, Like it's fine, Like we got we got TMU,
we got t MoU Harvard, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's thirty percent of the costs. It's fine. Fine.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So it's like, who is this benefit. It doesn't feel
like it benefits anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
And and that is and that is the big Well,
some of the things that kills me about just the
just the barreftness of Republican thought process is that like
they're so hyper focused on hard power, Like we want
the biggest military, we want the Golden Dome missile defense system.
We need to spend a trillion dollars on military. We
(01:01:57):
need to have planes that are literally invisible to the
naked ey. We need to have like the buffest, you know,
like serious looking troops. We're in a soft power world,
man like, like Western civilization is not currently being fought
with hard power, and China not currently has China understands, hey,
(01:02:17):
soft power is how you're truly gonna entrench yourself in
the world, because everywhere is like in this Trump administration,
in these four months that he's been in office, every
single area and avenue where America has backed out, China
has flown right in to kind of pick up the
pieces and to fill in the gaps and to to
basically pick those places up where they used to rely
(01:02:40):
on the US. And China's like, hey, they bat on you,
We got you. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Okay, that's the end of the free portion for this
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Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode to Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host Brad.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So, the resident Mexican on the podcast. Jay has us
recording on American Memorial Day, not respecting the sacrifice, the
ultimate sacrifice made by the troops. Uh So, if Jay
would be so kind, I would like to read a
prepared statement that I have made, or that I have
(00:46):
prepared for to celebrate Motial Day.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yes, go ahead, remember the remember the Alamo or whatever
it is you.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Uh yeah, yeah, Jay's gone, Sepiot.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I'm going. I'm going full CP. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Happy Memorial Day to all, including the scum that spent
the last four years trying to destroy our country through
more radical left minds who allowed twenty one million million
people to illegally enter our country, many of them being
criminals and the mentally insane, through an open border that
only an incompetent president would approve, and through judges who
are on a mission to keep murders drug dealers, rate
this gag members and release prisoners from all over the
(01:21):
world in our country so they can rob Burger at
Raith again, all protected by these USA hating judges. Who
suffer from an ideology that's sick and very dangerous for
our country. Hopefully, the United States Supreme Court and other good,
campassionate judges throughout the land will save us from the
decisions of the monsters who want our country to go
to hell. But fear not, we have made great progress
over the last four months and America will soon be
(01:41):
safe and great again again. Happy Memorial Day, and God
bless America.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I like that he starts off by saying, like, calling
people's scum, that's all that's salary is really fuck it?
Good job, Oh boy, we're back.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
My favorite part is he rates twenty one million and
then he says million right after that. So twenty one
million million people. Very well, that was the Yeah that, that,
of course was the truth. Uh. Posted by our actual
current president on this the day chosen out of the
(02:18):
calendar year to remember soldiers who have died in America's
many conflicts throughout throughout the last two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, well, I mean an inspiring message. I mean, in fairness,
you gotta like, you gotta let them know about the scumbags.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Or whatever, the radical the radical left judges whoever.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, we're trying to destroy judicial authority. Okay, great, guys.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Again, Hey, but did you hear Joe Biden they might
have hid like they might have tried to keep Joe
Biden's mental acuities hidden during the U during the run
to the twenty twenty four Okay, I'm the junior, junior
because because Jake Caffer can't stop talking about it, even
on his show on CNN. He just can't stop talking
about it. Jay, did you hear that Joe Biden might
(03:07):
have Jay? Jay, did you hear that they might have
tried to cover up Joe Biden's mental acuities in the
lead up to the twenty twenty four Central election? Jay,
have you heard about this? Joe Biden? It's mentally unwell.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The funny thing about that whole thing is like Joe
Biden has cancer. Right that that part's not funny obviously,
but like the entire sort of like wild response to
this started with, all right, Joe Biden has I guess,
stage four cancer, which I don't wish on anybody, unpressing cancer.
(03:43):
I don't wish that on anybody. I certainly don't wish
that on Joe Biden at all. But he so he
has he has he has cancers. That gets announced and
they're like, immediately Don Junior comes out with what I
can only assume is just a coke laced tweet, and
he's just like, well, why didn't doctor Jill Biden find it?
(04:05):
She's a doctor, it's like god, Like she has a
doctorate in education. Like for some reason, people without a
doctorate are mad that she referred to herself as doctor
Jill Biden, like as a professor. Like she didn't require
people to call her doctor Jill Biden while they were
in the White House, Like she wasn't like, yo, I'm
doctor Jill, Like what the fuck? What's going on? Don't disrespect?
(04:27):
Like she never did that right, And they were mad
that she went by doctor Joe Biden. You don't even
have a doctorate. She earned that doctorate. I don't give
a fuck if it's in underwater basket weaving. If I
had a doctorate, guess what in my professional environment? Fuck
it even in my non professional environment. I'm worse than
when they say about doctor Jill Biden. I would require it.
(04:48):
I would have it under my face right now on
this show. What are you serious? So like his I
don't know if he was like so high that he
thought that because someone calls themselves a doctor, that they
mean that they're a medical doctor.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
No. I choose to believe he's just that much of
an idiot that he thinks that everyone who's as the
title of doctor is medical doctor. And not only is
she a medical doctor, but she also is like the
primary care position for her husband, Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
She's not just she's not just a doctor. She's also
an oncologist.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
By the way, Oh yeah that too, Yeah, very good. Yeah,
it's like like very she has all the specialties, like
she's she's specialized in everything as all doctors are as.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know, right, have you heard have you heard doctor
Joe Biden? Oh yeah, So it comes out and then
this other story about like his top staff, you know,
hit his cognitive you know, situation potentially right, because I
don't think anyone knows, right, I don't care, Like at.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This point, you know what, Jay, you know what, Jay,
I do care. They've convinced me I'm not going to
support you by and for the twenty twenty presidential That's
that's that's that's what I've decided. Between between that and
and the process cancer diagnosis I'm officially out on Biden
twenty eight right, like you got you got me?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Like okay, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Now now maybe maybe we can perhaps focus on the
mental acuities of the current president.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yea, yeah, that's where in the office for years, right,
who keeps having to take cognitive tests? He just keeps
having to take them for some strange reason. He said,
this dude is just doing them all all.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Who is alleging? Who is alleging on his recent run
through the Petrol states, uh, that he somehow has made
America five trillion dollars And people were like, oh, he
must have misspoke, he must have meant billion. No, no,
he definitely means five. Like, oh, no, I've made deals
to get US five trillion dollars from these oil states. Now,
(06:53):
for people that don't aren't aware, the entire US GDP
on an annual basis is like thirty trillion dollars. So
according to Donald Trump, he has managed to bilk one
sixth of the of the national GDP from these petrol
states just by shaking hands and and you know, bacon
deals and swinging deals like that. Now, of course, no
(07:15):
specificity has been given as to how five trillion dollars
is coming into the US. Do you need that thing?
You know? Fair? Fair, Hey, have you heard that Joe
Biden's team might have hit his mestal actulities?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Have you heard? I just I imagine at a certain point,
it's just like the news is just going to comprise
of them like covering shit, and then Jake Tapper's face
will slide in like like a dude from Mortal Kombat,
like have you heard?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Have you heard?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like let's see like every time trying to tell a story.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Like meanwhile, meanwhile, Scott Pelley of sixty Minutes, it went
viral today because he gave the commencement address at when
far As University and he talked about how like the
assault on the free press is happening right now, like
it's not coming, it's happening as we speak. Of course,
sixty Minutes has been a show specifically embattled by orders
from on high to maybe stop investigating things that they're investigating,
(08:11):
and their executive producer left and all this other stuff.
But have you heard that Joe Biden's team might have
hidden his mental acuity in the lead up to the
twenty twenty four election.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know, you know the funny thing about it is
the way in which the news is doing that about
like hard focusing on this thing that, yes, you could say,
in the grand scheme of things, that's actually a real story, right.
I'm not even mad that you talk about it like
for a day or even two. But to pretend that
that is as big as what is literally going on
(08:43):
right now, Like it's not like Mitt Romney as president
is just kind of like general Republican bullshit and we're
just like, all right, we're just going through it, like
I don't like this, Okay, that's not that bad whatever,
That's not what's happening. The country is in the fight
of its life to not become a fascist state, which
I would argue it is, okay, But to pretend that,
like the Joe Biden story is the most important thing
(09:05):
right now is very weird. But what I'll tell you
what it sounds like this is the same attitude as
when I see far left folks screaming at Democrats about
like why are you doing enough? And it's like the
call is coming from the building right down the block
(09:26):
where the Republicans are doing all of the things that
you're actually bitching at the Democrats for doing right. It's
because you know that it's easier to focus on Joe
Biden and a thing that doesn't that won't move the needle,
because Joe Biden isn't president, right. You know that yelling
and screaming about Joe Biden covering that wall as silicious
thing and will get you views doesn't actually do anything,
(09:48):
because it's way harder for you to turn your your
fucking focus to the building down the street that goes, hey, man,
the White House is doing fascist shit and we need
to address it. Oh, but we're scared of this them
because they're gonna punch back, and when they do, we're
gonna have to fucking take and we're gonna have to
bend the knee over this. That's the same energy, it's
the same it's well attacking low hanging fruit that does nothing.
(10:11):
It just does nothing well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
And it's and it's funny because like the like the narrative.
Now that a lot of the media is trying to
drive as well, the Democrats are gonna have to have
a reckoning and have to deal with the fallout from
from the story. And I'm like, no, they already did,
like we like you saw the election happen, right, that
was the right We had to We had to scramble
and you know, replace him at the last minute, and
(10:33):
and Kamala Harris got thrown in there, and you know,
and and Trump won and now he's the president. That's
the reckoning we're all living through, like like like it
already happened. So yeah, so like Joe Biden not running
for president or anything else in twenty twenty eight, So no,
we don't have to have a conversation about zero. What
(10:55):
does this mean? Right, Yeah, I mean that that conversation
happen months ago, right, we know it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right, And and and the funny thing is what you're
arguing still comes down to, I really want to reopen
this wound so that we can talk about this, so
that we don't have to talk about this big swirling
piece of trash that's going on in the ocean at
this time. Like that's all it is, because it's really
scary to talk about the other thing because if they're
(11:23):
really honest about what's going on, they fucked up. They
fucked up by not holding this guy accountable.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
And you're I think I think you're I think you're
reading into it more ex Essentially, than it is. They
don't want to get sued by Yeah, yeah no, but that's.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What I'm saying. He will hit back, and they're they're
terrified that they're gonna either have to bend the knee
or I don't know, lose fucking ability to be on television.
Quite I mean quite seriously. Right, I understand, I understand
the impetus are being scared, but stop pretending this other
little Joe Biden's story is as big as this other thing,
this looming thing that you're just like I'm just not
(12:04):
gonna look at it if I don't look at it
long enough, Like.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Is he staring at me?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He's not staring at he Like it's the fucking Super
Mario level when like if you turn away from the sun,
like it starts like grimacing at you. Like just like
if I just pretend and it's not there, I can
just make it to the end. But you can't do that,
like you're you're doing that to the detriment of the society.
Like it doesn't work there with You're gonna have to
put big boy pants on and fucking deal with the
(12:30):
ship and tell.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
People the actual app Super Mario Brothers analogy is that
the media is focused away and not looking at the boo.
That's what's happening.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So yeah, it's yeah, it's it's annoying the entire thing. Again,
I'm not saying it doesn't matter that Joe Biden potentially
what's cognitively the client. It does matter. How about we
go back and talk about Ronald Reagan in the same thing.
Republicans would be like, that's not true at all.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Zero, But Jay, why are you bringing up old shit?
Why do you try to do that?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. How you
guys had a person who who their son told you
that he was mentally deficient and you didn't believe him. Right,
But we know that's not true. Okay, then that's not true.
Then I don't Then I'm just gonna take the weird
hard stance that it is not true about Joe Biden either,
just fuck it because why why why even concede it? Like,
I don't care if Joe Biden is they're drooling and
(13:31):
and just like running his fingers over his lips. I'm
not gonna concede it because because why right, Like that's
the same argument. Yeah, at this point, he doesn't fucking matter.
It just doesn't. All right, let's talk about them sucking
up the economy in UH and the country in unbelievable ways.
So the big, the big story this week is all
(13:52):
about the big beautiful one, big beautiful bill, the OBBB
that basically just does exactly what everyone said that it
would do, which is give an unbelievable amount of money
to the rich and stripping it from the poor. And
we're all pretending to be shocked by this news, even
though Republicans, by the way, said that they would never
(14:13):
do this, and they would never cut Medicare or Medicaid.
And remember when they bowed Joe Biden when he said
during a State of the Union that Republicans were going
to cut Medicaid and they booed him and screamed at him,
and Marjorie Taylor Green yelled like a howler monkey, how
he was a liar, And look at it, look at
it now, look at it. Now. They are, in fact
(14:35):
cutting massive amounts of money out of Medicaid. Shocking.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. Yeah, So the so the the redistribution of wealth
is the big story out of there. I think it's
worth highlighting some of the other things that are that
are also jammed into this bill. We talked about the
moratorium on AI laws UH being able to be enacted
and enforced by states on the last episode of the
(15:00):
podcasts that did make it through. Yeah, the Inflation Ruction
Act is basically getting stripped down to the studs, including
constantly green energy tax credits. Of course, they're not funding
the CFPD, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which they really
don't like because it actually helps people lots of money
(15:24):
for the border. Don't worry about that. We want to
make sure that we get a shitload of money in
for the border. And of course we are limiting gender
affirming care starting in twenty twenty seven. Basically, if you
have healthcare through the Affordable Care Act, you don't get
gender affirming care.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Did you notice something about this, by the way, that
a lot of these things are going to go into
effect after the midterms of course. Yeah, yeah, so that great,
Everything is totally fine. I leave the Republicans in and
then immediately after the midterms all hell breaks loose and
(16:05):
you're like, we shouldn't have done that. M hmm. Yeah,
like none of this ship is done by half instance, guys,
they are looking for you to not pay attention. That's it.
That's it, because if they were so all the time, right,
but if they were so sound about their ideas, you've
(16:26):
put them in place. Now let people have an opportunity
to see the ship that you want to do. No, no, no, no, no, no,
absolutely not so well.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And to your point, you know, we'll talk about, you know,
shift and talk about the cost of the bill because
of course, you know, the the debt hawks that are
the Republican Party who don't want to add a single penny,
which doesn't you know, as we talked about this podcast,
doesn't actually matter, but they're always more than willing to
spend money on tact cuts for rich people because this bill.
(16:59):
So they're gonna tell you that the bill cost three
point eight trillion dollars. But today's point, that's because of
all of these like expiration dates, like when they're sun
setting certain programs and stuff like that. So the actual
cost is going to be five point three trillion dollars
over over a ten year period. And they're all setting
that by cutting one point three trillion dollars from medicaid,
(17:24):
SNAP and student loans specifically those those three portions specifically
obviously Medicaid they're going after with right, you know, force
work requirements for Medicaid, even though literally like seventy percent
of the people that are on Medicaid work, and I
feel like the other thirty percent are like children. So
(17:46):
like like with some you know, with some unemployment.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
There are are they in Arkansas get to work?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Well, I mean that is that is the irony of
all this is that, of course, the people that are
probably gonna get hurt the most by this are the
people that live in the states that typically elect Republicans
to federal positions. So again it's you know, putting putting
the boot directly on your own face, because these people
can't bother to learn anything about how these things impact them.
(18:16):
But they're just like, oh, Democrats bad trans I don't
like trands, and I do like Jesus, and I don't
like abortions. So I got to vote for Republicans even
though they are going to make my life literally.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Worse, exponentially worse. Well, and the best part of this,
again is that all of this shit is banging on
your ignorance, right, it is banging on you hearing about this.
Republicans will boost up all the parts that they think
are great, Hey, one day you'll be a billionaire, and
so you'll benefited all these things, right, and these these
people eat this bullshit up, and then they wait to
(18:50):
the midterms. You have already as a voter, you have
likely already turned the fuck off, right, and then, like
I said, all the shit if Republicans stay in power,
all of this shit goes into power or goes into effect,
and they and they they fuck you. And then you go, well,
what's happening? And guess what, You've got two more years
(19:10):
to live through all hell, and they hope by then
things are still so bad that you turn off again
around election time. But more importantly, what you like. It's
not just understanding that this shit is happening. It is
to understand who is voting for this shit. Because one
of the big things that is very easy is Trump
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is ruining the economy or Trump is bad, blah blah blah.
This isn't even Trump, right, not directly. This is the
Republican party in it of itself, right, this is the
House Republicans. At this point, We'll see what the Senate does,
but which will largely pass it, but maybe like change
four things out of it, and you're like.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, I mean, we'll see Republican senators have come out
and said that, hey, like we don't like the cuts
to MEDICAI and SNAP and stuff like that. So like that,
and and there are actual like debt hawks in the Senate,
like Rand Paul has been bitching and moaning on national
(20:12):
TV for a couple of weeks now about the bill
that's coming out of the House. Like, I don't think
no matter what they do, if they're adding money to
the debt, that Rand Paul is gonna vote for it.
Maybe maybe they'll let him bitch about it on the
Senate floor for two hours and that'll that'll assuade him.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, he will vote to bill. He will vote for
one hundred percent Rand Paul. Look, you can you can
say whatever you want about Ron Paul, and I could
go on for hours. Okay, I just never found the appeal.
I've really just never did. But you can give Ron
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Paul this. He was a person of his word, even
though it made no fucking sense in reality. If he
was like, look, I'm a fucking deficit hawk, or you know,
like I just don't agree with adding you know, four
trillion dollars to the deficit, I don't give a fuck
what's in the bill. Even if it's all this grick
draconian ship that I would absolutely agree with if I
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could get it done for free, he wouldn't vote for it.
Ran Paul likes to play that game and say, oh,
I'm just like my fucking dad. Rand Paul goes along
with all of that ship. On the rarest of occasions,
he goes, okay, guys, now hold on a sort or.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, yeah. He basically does not like to be the
vote that will keep it from passing. He's happy to
He's happy to have the the Bernie Sanders no vote
on something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Right, but allow me to vote no when I know
it's going.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
To fail, right, right, to make it look good. But
but but the point is that it doesn't. It doesn't
seem like the Senate's gonna rubber stamp this version of
the bill. Now, no, they I don't have to think.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I think it's just going to be small tweaks. To
be honest, I don't think, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You're you're probably you're probably correct. So and and the
stuff that I don't think is going to survive the Senate,
or the stuff that I do think would still survive
in the Senate version is going to be a lot
of the Inflation Reduction Act, like the green energy investments
that the Inflation Production Act made. That shit is going
to get fucking stripped out basically, which you're going to see. Yeah,
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tons of jobs that we're going to be created, lost,
tons of money that would have made its way into
the economy lost. Basically, what they're requiring is that like
all these green energy projects have to be started by
like twenty twenty nine in order to qualify for the credits.
Like that's the timetable they're putting on it. But because
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of how much regulatory red tape there often is and
getting those projects off the ground, they know that a
lot of the stuff won't be able to get started
by this, so they just basically won't you know, qualify
for those credits that are currently in there. They're going
to strip those out basically. And again this goes and
it fucks Republicans because typically when they build these new
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like solar farms, wind farms, stuff like that, they typically
do it in rural areas. You can't fucking put a
solar farm smack dab in the middle of the city.
It doesn't fucking work. That way, you need a big
ass fucking open plot of land that doesn't have a
lot of fucking trees or buildings are shit around it,
so that the sun could fucking shine down on it,
which is gonna only help like typically rural states and
(23:23):
rural areas. So again, all this money that could have
come into Republican areas to help the economy, fuck that.
We're gonna We're gonna go ahead and strip that out.
We're gonna get rid of that ship. Your electric vehicle
tax credits they're fucking going away too. They're they're they're
going out the door as well. The very popular seventy
five credit is going away. Why probably because Elon Must
(23:46):
wanted it to because exactly because weirdly, it doesn't help Tesla,
because it helps the competitors around Tesla.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yep uh, Look, I'm not surprised. Pass Through Business Income deduction.
It permanently extends and expands the twenty percent deduction for
pass through business income and puts it to from twenty
percent to twenty three percent, which just benefits rich people
like that's who, that's who it is, right. This is
(24:14):
this is basically when you when you own a business,
you're able to like you're able to take your personal
like you're you're basically able to couple your personal deductions
into your business.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know who's really good at doing that is a
person who has a brand called UH that's named after them.
So this was a big thing during his first term,
and they are increasing it because hey, why not U
there was a there's a weird thing about getting deductions
on home tanning beds like that. Gotta put it in there. Gee,
(24:49):
I can't imagine who that's for. What a weird thing
to be very specific about that being necessary. The UH
the idea that the state tax exemption has increased to
fifteen million dollars in twenty twenty six, or will increase
to fifty million dingusted for inflation thereafter, significantly reducing tax
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liabilities for wealthy estates.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
So here there you go, and and and there's a
there's a a chart going around that Wharton put together
kind of looking at the household in from that. Yeah, yeah,
I know, right of this bill, So the the two
lowest tax brackets, but like basically the bottom fifty percent
(25:36):
of Americans will actually end up paying well, we'll actually
lose money on these bills because of these things. If
you are in like the like from fifty to or sorry,
bottom forty percent lose money. Forty to eighty percent, you're
getting back a little bit more, but like two brand
(25:57):
maybe something like that. If right, if you're in that
eighty to ninety nine percent range, you're getting back at
most like twenty Like your your in household I'm going
to go twenty grand, pretty pretty good. But at that point, like,
do you need the money if you're in that high
of a bracket, probably not. Uh, the bottom nine tenths
(26:20):
of the top one percent, so the ninety nine to
ninety nine point nine percent uh income earners in this country,
we'll see an extra forty thousand dollars annually on their
household income. And the top non important, the top ten
percent of the top one percent will see and increase
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of nearly four hundred thousand dollars coming back to them
annually as a result of these cuts.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, by the way, is that a lot of money
for the top it's not, but it's really not right.
But it's a real fuck you to poor people, Like
it's a real thank I do want to quickly you
touched on snap cuts. Right, they're tightening the eligibility of
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for that program, shifting seventy five percent of the administrative
costs to the states, and penalizing the states if they
have an error rate above six percent. So what do
you think happens in red states when it comes to
those SNAP benefits? Bye bye?
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right, Yeah, they're just the states really well, we're not
going to spend this money, so we're just going to
find done done.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
So, so good luck to getting seventy five percent of
your SNAP benefits in red states. Again, who are you
trying to hurt here? I mean, the one thing that
Republicans and Trump have very specific Trump specifically have done
that I think is actually fascinating and is I don't know.
(27:50):
I don't want to say helpful because people suffer from this,
but it's helpful from a like political visioning right perspective,
is you get to see what liberals talk about, how oh,
democrats pay so much more and are so much more
protective of their citizens in blue states than what happens
in red states. Republicans are like, that's not true. It's
(28:10):
great living in red state or whatever. But now you're
watching because anytime they rip all these benefits out, who
do they disproportionately hurt people in red states. These are
the people who need to help the most, and your
state representatives and your governors and things aren't even willing
to help you locally. The federal government was fucking you know,
(28:32):
fitting the bill to make sure you were taken care of.
But now the federal government is in the hands of
people who don't give a shit about anybody, and your
state government doesn't give a shit about you locally, and
you're lost. Like, look, they're shifting seventy five percent over
to blue states administrative costs over the Blue states. You
know what's gonna happen. They'll eat it and keep going, right,
(28:53):
They're not gonna be fucking happy about it, but they're
gonna do it. Maybe they have to reduce benefits a
little bit, but I can guarantee you they're not gonna
drops They're not going to just drop it completely like
the Red states will. The Red states will drop it
completely there there will be no benefits for a snap.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Or very And that's the and that's the iriny is
that if you are in a blue state because of this,
like federally like will be helpful, yes, but then you're
probably going to get hit on the backside with state
taxes because of the extra burden that's being placed on states,
so that that game becomes a net a net neutral
or a loss, even depending on what's going on. And oh,
by the way, have you heard, like terrifts are still
(29:30):
you know, even though calmed down, still higher than they
ever have been prior to like nineteen thirty.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So, by the way, they I don't know if you heard,
they are pausing the tariffs the fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Oh, we'll get to.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
That, Okay, it's it's later on. It's later on. Have
you heard have you heard?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Have you heard? Hey, Jay, have you heard? Joe Biden
might not have been all there.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
You might, it's hard to know.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's that's the important thing to talk about here.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah. Absolutely, the one big beautiful Biden is up for
here's your episode, so I need to jump that down. Yeah,
you mentioned earlier border security funding. They are giving seventy
billion dollars to border security, including forty six and a
(30:18):
half billion to border barriers and funding to increase capacity for.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Is Christine nomes new jet incorporated into that cost as
well that she wants.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I don't know if it's in the cost but I
have to imagine the seventy billion dollars does include hiring
stalkers for the upcoming Christinome who wants to be an
immigrant America citizen, the American citizen deportation jail. Yeah, so
seventy billion dollars, good job, everybody cool? Hey, Democrats, if
(30:55):
you do ever get in power day one, reverse all
of it shit, Okay, Like, get this shit the fuck
out of here, because this is nonsense. Like, we cannot
afford if Democrats ever decide to fight back hard and properly.
We cannot afford to leave the ship as it is
and be like, well, let's just like work with this
(31:16):
and then move forward. No, this has to be reversed.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
But again, that that's the whole fucking problem though, man,
is that like again, because of how the media works
around this shit and how they frame this stuff, like
if you cut, if you cut seventy billion from border security,
that the media narrative is, oh, democrats give up on
policing the border or something along those lines. Yep son
(31:42):
until the playing field is level or just fair or
or based in reality. Yeah, I mean, that's one of
the reasons why the terriffs, Like when Biden got in
there twenty twenty one. Why those first term Trump terarifs
on China didn't go anywhere, it's because if you remove
them all of a sudden, it's like, oh, Biden, you know,
(32:04):
get thrown Americans at the wolves of the of the
Red Scourge in China like that, Like that would have
been the fucking narrative for at it. So they didn't
do it because they knew that that's how it would
be portrayed. Because again the media refuses to call things
what they are or or refuses to like, you know,
like it wouldn't be framed. Oh Biden reverses, you know,
(32:25):
overreaching Trump tariffs is you know, no, Biden gives up
an American manufacturing.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, piculate, Yeah, I mean look that, you know. I
I occasionally, just because sometimes I like to try to
give myself brain damage in real time. I occasionally watch
those like Jubilee things where it's like one person versus
like twenty other people that disagree with them. The latest
one is Jordan Peterson versus twenty eighteists. Jordan Peterson is
(32:53):
an insane person, and it kind of proves that he's
just has a really great vocabulary but a fucking idiot
like okay, Like I don't want to hear anything else
from that guy about like, oh he's so smart. He isn't.
But the thing about that is, I want one of
twenty intelligent liberals or or media skeptics, intelligent media skeptics
(33:17):
versus a fucking standard fucking CNN or Fox News or
even MSNBC journalists like a Jake Tapper or whatever. I
want you to defend the shittiness of your fucking work
because over the last twenty to thirty years you have
done a horrendous job. You've done a horrendous job. Why
do you fucking not why are you so afraid to
(33:38):
call balls and strikes when it comes to Democrats and
liberal or Democrats and Republicans? You don't You don't like
you said if Joe Biden said, all right, we're done
with those fucking tariffs or whatever, Uh, well, why would
Joe Biden give up on America? But six months ago
you said that these terrors were fucking unfair and ridiculous.
But the second it's like it's like being it's like
(33:58):
watching a little kid. I don't like thing. I don't
like to say here it is I love this thing now,
Please don't ever change it. If you change it, I
hate you forever. You're like, you just didn't like it
two minutes ago. It's like, yeah, but now I'm used
to it and now I love it, so I'm gonna
defend it with all my heart. But that's not how
reality has to work, right. You don't have to deal
with shit like that. You deal with it in what
(34:18):
came before, give the context, what Trump did, give the context,
and what Joe Biden does. Give the context. Don't just go,
Joe Biden, change this thing so it equals bad because
you don't do that with Republicans. You don't. And it's
because and I honestly, it's the same thing we say
about Republican politicians. The media knows that Democrats will take
(34:43):
it because they know that the Democrats are the adults
in the room. They know this, They know this. That's
why the narratives are fucking lopsided. They don't make any
sense because they don't They know for a fact that
if they call out Republicans for what they actually do,
they're gonna get a bunch of bull bullshits screaming and
hollering because they know that it feels unfair to call
(35:03):
the guys who are fucking shit up on fuck.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But here's but here's the iron hurting the democracy. Dude,
you're hurting, but forget the democracy, here's the army. They're
still getting fucked by the Republicans. Like the whole reason
that they capitulated this stuff is because they don't want
to get attacked, they don't want to lose access. But
Trump is still suing media companies. When was the last
(35:27):
guess who? The Associated Press still is not invited to
White House press briefings because they refuse to call it
the Gulf of America. Literally, that's the reason that the
Trump administration. And meanwhile that they're they're willing to invite
any right wing podcast asshole to sit in with these
same serious journalists scare quotes that I'm using right now.
(35:51):
So it's happening anyway. And again we've said it about
like the universities that capitulate the Trump, and he said
it about like the law firms that capitulate the Trump. Uh,
they're going to like the way you stand up to
a fascist is not by rolling over, because once you
do that, they're saying, ah, they're weak we can keep
hitting them, we can keep leaning on them to get
what we want. The way you stand up is to
(36:11):
fucking punch them in the fucking mouth.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's the way you do that. Stop listening, like like
if you're CBS or ABC or whoever, don't listen to
your fucking legal counsel and be like, hey, you know,
it'd be a lot easier just to pay fifteen million
dollars to fucking settle this, because as soon as you
do it, they're like, ah, they fucking got them. Let's
go after them again for the next the next received
step out?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Why protection money? Man? How is you never like, have
any of you watched a mob movie before? Like, hey,
this is a this is a nice university. It's a
shame if something were to happen to and you're like, well,
here's some money. They come back next month, dude, they
come back next month because they got you the second
you fucking roll over and they got you. Now you know,
(36:53):
with the mob, they'll break your fucking kneecaps, right, and
so you're like, I gotta pay the money because I
don't want to die. However, these guys are just like
we're going to sue. You fight them, you have money.
Trump is fighting Harvard right, telling them that they can't
have any students from foreign countries. On what planet is that,
American dude? On what planet is that fucking one legal?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
And just Harvard by the way, it's not like every
other university being like hey, like yeah, just Harvard, right.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
So it's like they're not allowed to have foreign students.
It's considered the top school in the country, right, Like,
I get it. I believe you guys all fight it
out whatever you're all over price bullshit anyway, but like
it's considered number one, number two, depending on if you
jerk off at Yale or not. But you're telling them
that they're not allowed to have certain students. Arguably some
(37:46):
of the smartest people in the world come to work
there or to go to school there. And he's like, well,
they're not gonna They're they're not even saying like we're
not going to give federal dollars, which they are already
saying they're not going to do, but they're also saying
that we will not approve visus for students for foreign
students who go to there. What the fuck man, why
(38:09):
because your dumb fucking son didn't get into that school?
Why because Obama's kid got in? Like that's literally all
it is. Why because they obnoxiously corrected that statement that
your dumb education secretary sign. Yeah they should have fucked her, right,
But like you're just going after them. But that's somehow
(38:32):
that somehow needs to be called as like a oh,
that's a crazy story. But have you heard about Joe Biden? Like, yo,
what are we doing right now? Like that's a crazy story,
But it's not just a crazy story because it's crazy.
It's a crazy story because it's dystopian and its fucking
fascist behavior. That's why it's a crazy story. Like it
feels like they miss the reason why people are bad
about it, Like it's just so weird. Woll they're really
(38:54):
picking on Harvard. That's a crazy story, all right? Next up, No, motherfucker,
that's a Canarian of coal mine set you. If he
can do that to them, what can he do to
other schools if he gets hardd to bend the knee?
And thankfully they have not. Look what he did to Colombia, Colombia.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So what happened to Columbia? Like they're smart enough to
be like, yeah, like they're not gonna roll over and
die like Columbia did.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Right, and guess what, not everyone is that smart, right,
Not everyone is that smart? And look, unfortunately somebody's gotta
go down first, right, so everyone goes, well, I mean fuck, I.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Mean a ABC paid paid him off for the Stephanoppoles
thing fifteen million dollars. They're like, yeah, we don't want
this heat, we don't want this fucking smoke. They're looking
to go in after ABC again like like like for
some more.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Lessons to learn, right, well, lessons learn. And the funny
thing is ABC won't. ABC won't go and I can
tell you, I can guarantee you this is how it goes.
ABC will be like, all right, we're not gonna pay
as much, right, Like they're not gonna just fight. They're
gonna say, all right, we're not gonna pay as much,
and they're gonna try to negotiate it down a little
bit for whatever the original costes. And they're gonna try
(39:59):
to negotiate it down. Learn your lesson the first time, dummy,
Learn your lesson the second time, dummy.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Right, they get it. It's the old madge hold me once.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know It's like, how do you not
pick up on this? How do you know? It's like,
I just how do you not pick up on this?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
These are mom because you're listening, because you're listening to
the wrong people. You're listening to the lord listening. You're
listening to the fucking suits. You're listening to the lawyers,
the executives who are just like, just make this go away.
We don't want to fucking hear about it. We don't
want this to be a story, we don't want to
have to deal with this. But that's not how this
ship fucking works. Man. Again, the smartest theory you've ever
(40:38):
had in your entire life, that I that I will,
that I continue to profess, is that too many people
in this world have never been punched in the face,
and they really ought to be punched in the face
more to realize that that ship is you know what
it's like to punch somebody else in the face, right
like you.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You need to understand where the lines are in life,
you do, like otherwise you get people like Donald Trump
who were habitual line steppers. That's how I know that
guy's never gotten blasted in the face straight up like
where he was like he said some wild shit as
a kid and somebody was like, what the fuck and
just punched him in the mouth. There's no way because
he would have learned in life to go if I
(41:16):
say this, like you just learn, Like you can't just
say and do whatever the fuck you want in society.
Doesn't mean you're gonna get punched the face as an adult.
You probably should, but like, it doesn't mean that. But
there are consequences to things that you say. It is
a hard lesson that people should learn, and the less
people get punched in the face, the worst society gets.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
So much of what you're saying is we have a
third We have a third stop on our time travel,
on our time travel to do list, kill Hitler, kill Reagan,
punch Donald Trump in the face as a youth.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Uh No, I don't think that. I don't think that's accurate.
It's it's kill kill Hitler, kill Reagan, punch Donald Trump
in the face. Uh Sports Almanac, you get a do
a company going back punched from.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
In the face by Applestock and nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Three, figure out how you make friends with Bill Gates, Like,
just put me on the team, man, Look, have.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
You seen it?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Have you heard about a mouse? You know, I stole
it from Xerox too. You're now right, But yeah, I
just I truly believe that, like that idea of not
being an habitual linestepper is a really important lesson you
need to learn as a kid through the hands of
another kid. Like you just you just do And this
(42:33):
is this is not just dudes, by the way, I
think I think women should also get blasted in the
face by other girls. Like when you're young, you just
say some washing and another girls like the fuck and
they just punch you in the face and you're like,
oh shit, I didn't know I shouldn't do that. Boom everybody.
Then you can have a nice egalitarian society and nobody
says and you wash it. That's it. You don't hit
(42:55):
the other gender. That's not cool. I'm not advocating for that.
I'm specifically saying gender on gender punching each other in
the face, that's almost is an intro gender thing. Yeah, okay,
so let's talk about let's talk about let's jump into news.
You need Senate nukes filibuster to stript states rights to
regulate emissions.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, so quite famously, car companies in this kind, so
states have the right to set their own environmental standards. Essentially,
in this country, that's called federalism, get rid of it. Famously,
automakers tend to design and develop automobiles around the California
(43:38):
standard because California is the biggest auto market. It also
happens that California has the strictest environmental standards of any
state in the country, which automakers really don't like. So
the Senate decided to put to a vote to be
able to strip California of that authority to have state
(44:01):
specific limits for tailpipe pollution, specifically that are more restrictive
than the federal standard, which is much less restricted than California. However,
because this isn't a budgetary maneuver, it requires sixty votes
to end debate to move on to voting in the Senate,
And even though the parliamentarian said, hey, you guys can't
(44:24):
do this at violet Centate rules, they went ahead and
did the quote unquote fabled nuclear option so that they
could end debate with just fifty votes us so that
they could jam this vote through anyway. Cool, So.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Should we get rid of the filibuster in the future, guys,
I don't know, maybe we should fucking have to.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I mean, like, this this is the this is the
canary in the coal mine, This is the raptor testing
the fence because they're doing it with something that is
incredibly benign, that's hyper specific, and they're gonna wait to
see if anyone fucking let's says anything about it. Here's
the funny thing. I bet you a lot of people
(45:07):
listening to this podcast, this is the first you've heard
of this. And there's a specific reason that I wanted
to bring it up on the show because again, like
we've heard for years, all we got to keep the
filibuster in place, it's so important. Well, guess what Republicans
have shown, just like we told you they would. If
it's something they really don't like, they have no problem
bouncing that ship out of the way.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And you're you're absolutely right, this is a this is
a raptor's testing defence thing because this is not this
is not important to them. It really isn't. But it's
just to see, hey, am I am I look them
am I say anything? No, Oh, shits on, let's go Like, so,
guess what if you don't think they're going to use
this for some major ship. You're wrong, You're wrong, and
(45:53):
it's gonna be shit that hurts your feelings. I can
guarantee you it's gonna be shit that hurts you feeling. Yes,
it's gonna This is going to be on some like, well,
do we really need to make sure that these people
are protected? Exactly? Do we really need to make sure
that like are these people really citizens?
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Yeah? And again they won't. They won't do it as
a wide squat. They will like Venezuelans. Ah, we can
get Venezuelans out here. They're fucking dangerous their country once
the three hundred Yeah, in the fucking megaprison.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, who cares? Who gets the Yeah. Again, they are
banking on you not paying attention. They are banking on
you not caring, and you cannot afford to make them
correct here. You can't. You can't.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
And also remember this because because you know what, for
for all that people, some people in the Senate are
wringing their hands about this. I agree with them. The
filibuster is overused. It's a silly thing. And let let
let parties govern the way they want to govern and
allow the people to see the full breadth of what
(47:05):
they voted. Yeah, trust me, Trust me when I tell
you the things that Democrats want to pass will be
widely met with happiness from people, and the things that
Republicans want to pass will really piss people off.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So yeah, get rid of the filibuster. I'm cool with it.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah. And this is the thing, Oh well, it will
hurt people. I'm sorry people not being hurt now, Like
what the fuck? Like what ends up happening is when
you have the filibuster and you're using it in this like, oh,
I'm just gonna like stop debate or I'm gonna I'm
gonna you know, I'm gonna stop this thing from happening.
You're right, it is. You are not allowing people to
(47:41):
see what they truly voted for or apathetically did not
vote for and stayed home when those things start to
hit and you go, what the fuck, I'm not cool
with this. Good now you can see how bad this
thing is. But Democrats, when they get in power and
you get fifty five fucking votes in the Senate and
(48:02):
you still can't get shipped done if you were like,
they never get anything done. They don't understand what the
filibuster is. They don't know, you have no idea what
it is, right, So Democrats get stopped, Republicans get stopped.
Let let them do what they're gonna do, and then
you can understand. If people like your shit, they keep
voting in. If they fucking hate the ship that you do,
(48:23):
they vote your ass out.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
So simple as that.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Why you need to hide behind it. Why we're gonna
stop these people.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
From voting because it because it keeps them from doing
bold things, which is really what they like to do
at the end of the day anyway. Yeah, so yeah,
I like we used to be used to be a
country that actually did shit. Not that long ago too.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
It wasn't that long ago. And now we're just fucking
shit up like that's that's really our that's our that's
our remo now with just how do we fuck it up?
Is this the thing that's working? Yeah? How do we
fucking up?
Speaker 2 (48:55):
All? Right? Cool?
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Sent in America? Like we got it really Fortunately, Donald
Trump delays imposing fifty percent tariffs on EU until July ninth.
Turns her on, turns off, turns.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah literally literally, uh last week comes out threatens like, hey,
we're gonna throw down fifty percent tariffs on everything from
the EU. Uh literally today. Uh, and it's gonna happen
in early June. Literally today, we're gonna kick that down
the road about five weeks. Good job, dude.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
So are tariffs designed to bring jobs back to America
or nah? Because it seems like is just a negotiating tact.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
It sounds like Selsi is really just a tactic to
get people that he doesn't like to answer his phone calls. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I think that's a big part of it. Way, Like,
I think there's like a level of like ego to it.
He's like, like he calls Macron, Macron's like I'm picking
up fuck that guy. It's like tiff, He's like, all right,
what do you want?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (49:56):
What why are you calling? Hey? I just wanted to see, like, uh,
do do French girls shave their armpits? Like uh? And
he just hangs out like he's got to fucking intelligence
at four year old. Yeah. I think that's really it.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I think that's what And it's funny because really like
and it's a shame that again, like the other people
on the other side of the phone have to be
the adults in the room, because I'm sure that they
would like to be like, Hey, what we really said
was like, hey, do you really wanna do you really
want to fuck with us? Do you really want us
to reciprocate this ship the other way? Hey, here's here's
a list of the things that we buy from you.
(50:31):
You really you really want to fucking play this game?
How did go with China? Didn't go too great?
Speaker 1 (50:37):
No, what'd you think? What did you think? The fucking
EU doesn't buy anything from America? Okay, you think you
don't buy anything from Europe? Okay, like you do, though
you do, but it is it's just it's very, very silly.
The tariff thing is a waste, guys, like this is
(50:58):
a waste. All the doing is one fucking up your money.
That is all it is doing is fucking up your
money and creating massive uncertainty. But it is not helping anything,
does not bringing any jobs back. It is not it's
not doing anything. Like interestingly enough, I've seen a number
of reports this past week about Apple and Apple's work
(51:20):
in China. Are you aware of are you aware of
this whole thing with them? So like Trump, Trump has
been like banging the drum, like listen to Tim Apple,
You're gonna start building these phones in the US.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Well, so that was the thing, right, So the whole
saga with this was right. So he imposes the big
tarifs in China. Now, mind you, since the first Trump term,
Apple has spent billions of dollars, billions of dollars outsourcing
some of their iPhone production, moving it from China to
like India, basically right, because they're just like, holy shit,
like if somehow Trump or some other China hawkets in,
(51:54):
like this could be a problem again, so we should
have a contingency plans for some of our biggest products.
They're moving a lot of stuff to India. So Trump
threatens the big tariffs on China, the big tariffs on India,
which of course got paused and every other country in
the world. Apple goes to him quite rightly, so and
it's like, hey, you're fucking up our fucking bag here.
(52:16):
What are you doing, you dumbass? This is not going
to go well for you if you do this. He
gives them. He gives smartphones except and at laptops an exception,
as you recall that that was one of the things
that was accepted from this tariffs that he posted. And
and everything's cool, for a while, and then you know,
Apple's talking about like, hey, we're gonna move more phone
production because of course that's you know, there's still the
thirty percent Chinese tariffs that are on right now, Hey,
(52:38):
we're going to move this stuff to India. And now
Trump is like, hey, like I'm going to put a
fifty smartphone tariff on iPhones no matter where they come from,
if it's not America, And hey, that wouldn't be very
fair to Apple. So We're gonna do a fifty percent
tariff on all smartphones that aren't made in the US.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Like okay, Like again, we went all the way around
Robin Hood's barn to do what exactly I mean.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
And and Tim and Tim Cook is gonna call him
and be the Trump whisper because for some for some reason,
Tim Cook, it's reported, is like absurdly good at talking
him off the ledge. I don't know why. It's very weird,
like like Tim Cook for some reason is able to
calm him down and get what he wants and do
it like in a very private fashion where he's not
(53:26):
going on Twitter and just like putting Trump on blast
and ship like that. It's very strange.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, I don't know. Uh, maybe maybe he's got like
a maybe maybe Trump uh has like a thing for
like powerful gay billionaires because like you know Roy Cone.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
I mean, I mean he's got Scott in his cabinet, Like.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Maybe that's like his thing. He's like, I just love
those guys. Yeah, they seem so cool, they're so rich.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
So here, here's the thing, the the Apple thing I
did not realize. So the whole thing that you pointed out, yes,
that is all true that, but that wasn't what I
was referring to. So Apple's investment in China is, to
put it mildly unbelievable, right, Yes, they are moving things
to India because they want to they want to spread out, right,
(54:11):
like they're playing it fucking smart. But they're doing the
same It seemingly they're doing the same thing in India
potentially as what they did in China. Do you know
how much they've invested in China over the last five years?
Speaker 2 (54:22):
Oh, in five years. If I had to guess that's
the number is committed to spender, committed to spending, I
would guess probably half a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1 (54:33):
Two hundred and seventy five billion. Right, Okay, so I
was overshot, Yeah, yeah, just a little bit. But here
you did. But here's what I'm gonna give you a
lot of credit. Here two hundred and seventy five billion
dollars over the course of five years, which is double
with the US spent to rebuild Europe with a Marshall
Plan after World War Two, which is fucking insane. But
(54:55):
here's here's the course. Is that is that adjusted for inflation? Yes,
I' yes crazy, that's crazy, right, Like that's how much money,
by the way, just exists in the world that like
this computer company is like whatever, I back then, we
could have just rebuilt Europe twice, right, we could have
given them spaceships back then. We have so much money.
(55:15):
But here's the wild thing what they do in China
and the reason why they have such an unbelievable grip
on China in a lot of ways, Like they have
a low amount of the like what is it they have?
They have a low amount of the market share of
phones in the world, like surprisingly low, but like the
(55:39):
highest amount of revenue from cell phones, which is fucking wild.
And not just because they're expensive, because like there are
plenty of expensive phones. Right, It's not like, oh, Apple's
the only one with a thousand dollars phone. They aren't, okay,
But it's because what they do in China, which again
they're they're trying to seemingly mirror in India, is they
basically went to China and said, listen, well, we'll make
(56:00):
the phones over with you guys, but you're only allowed
like we're gonna pay your guys like a pittance, like
like just straight up, we're not paying you guys, damn
near anything. Fuck you. But what we're going to do
is we're going to do all the training so that
not only do you yes, your guys make the phones,
(56:20):
and yes, they won't make a lot of money, but
what will happen is their level of training. Because this
isn't the people just like small children putting parts together.
These are the fucking high end engineers doing this shit, right.
The level of training is elite. Right, So like when
when Trump comes out and says they just move the
phone production to the US, and people are like, now,
(56:42):
they really can't. It's not just factories, dude, It is
billions upon bill hundreds of billions of dollars in training alone.
That's actually far out pacing the two hundred and seventy
five billion dollars that they spent, right, because that's like
factory building shit, that's not that's not that's not counting
the amount of money and training, which probably get some
closer to a half a trillion dollars right right. So
(57:04):
what they do is they say, listen, we'll give you
this elite amount of training. So I was watching this
whole report about it, and this guy was saying, listen.
Everyone says, oh, Apple is the one who killed like
the Nokia phones and shit like that, Like they just
destroyed them in the market. They didn't. That's not what happened.
When they came into China and trained these guys for
a pittance, right, these terrible shitty salaries, but they trained
(57:26):
them to be fucking these elite engineers. When they did that,
those guys left Apple. So a bunch of them left
Apple and they started building iPhone like copies and shit.
And those copies were so fucking good, not good enough
to compete with Apple, but they were so good that
those copies destroyed all of the other phone companies inside
(57:47):
China and in the East, right like, and actually around
the world, right So it's not that Nokia got destroyed
by Apple. They got destroyed by Apple clones because Apple
had been spending so much money in time training these
elite fucking engineers, and that's what they're doing, and that's
what they're gonna end up doing in India. So they
they end up dominating by not spending tons of money. Well,
(58:08):
I mean, they do spend a lot of money, but
that's not what their goal is. Their goal is to
make the best engineers that they make, so many people
who can do the high level shit that they want
to do in their phones. America can't copy that that fast.
You can't copy that shit in three years. It's impossible.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
You can't. You can't copy it at all because you'd
have to fucking pay people in America, like like, you
can't get away with paying them a quarter of what
they're worth, you know, you know, for the skills that
they have essentially exactly.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
So yeah, it's it's fascinating Apple Apple is And this
may lead to why and all honestly not just because
Tim Cook is gay. I don't give a shit about that,
but that may be the reason why he can talk
to Trump the way he does, because He's like, listen, motherfucker,
I could destroy your entire shit. Like, you cannot put
(58:59):
these tariffs on my It's incredibly popular in the US.
Nobody's trying to pay three thousand dollars for a fucking phone. Two.
My hooks are so deep into these countries. You have
no fucking idea. Like well, and that's the thing about Tim,
People realize that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
Right when when when Steve Jobs passed away and Tim
Cook took over Apple, people a lot of people were
surprised because they hadn't really heard of him. You know why,
because Tim Cook his whole fucking deal at Apple was logistics.
Like he was the fucking logistics guy. Like he was
the guy that fucking moved them into China and got
their production to scale that was unheard of at that point.
(59:37):
And and like you to that point is still kicking.
And again, like Apple's not alone in that respect. Like again,
the reason why, and we talked about this in previous episodes,
the reason why you can't just build up American manufacturing
is because China is so is leagues ahead of us
in terms of just efficiency and technology and stuff like that.
(59:59):
For manufacturing specifically, they have the ship unlock. It would
take decades for the US to get to where China is,
and would frankly take a good relationship with China, because
who the fuck like you think we're just gonna learn
this stuff on our own. No, you have people come
fucking show you, right, and you do.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
It, and you've now made the country toxic against the
idea of bringing in people from other countries.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Right again, I'm gonna need And that's not just a
Republican fault to you, by the way, there are plenty
of Democrats who are a lot of anti China bullshit
stuff like that, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It does bring up a thing that drives me crazy.
I need the media to do many things better, a
myriad of things. But I need people to start asking
a really serious question. Even if you get shot down,
go down, swing it, all these cuts and all this
destructive shit you're doing, what is it actually helping? What
(01:00:58):
is alienating young brilliant kids from around the world coming
to Harvard? What is that helping?
Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah? Bye bye? By the way, you know who's opening
up their arms in the wake?
Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Yeah, China's like, hey, we got schools over here too.
You would have learned how to be fucking engineers and
shit like that. We got you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Yeah, Like it's fine, Like we got we got TMU,
we got t MoU Harvard, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's thirty percent of the costs. It's fine. Fine.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
So it's like, who is this benefit. It doesn't feel
like it benefits anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
And and that is and that is the big Well,
some of the things that kills me about just the
just the barreftness of Republican thought process is that like
they're so hyper focused on hard power, Like we want
the biggest military, we want the Golden Dome missile defense system.
We need to spend a trillion dollars on military. We
(01:01:57):
need to have planes that are literally invisible to the
naked ey. We need to have like the buffest, you know,
like serious looking troops. We're in a soft power world,
man like, like Western civilization is not currently being fought
with hard power, and China not currently has China understands, hey,
(01:02:17):
soft power is how you're truly gonna entrench yourself in
the world, because everywhere is like in this Trump administration,
in these four months that he's been in office, every
single area and avenue where America has backed out, China
has flown right in to kind of pick up the
pieces and to fill in the gaps and to to
basically pick those places up where they used to rely
(01:02:40):
on the US. And China's like, hey, they bat on you,
We got you. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
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