One Bill to Screw Us All (Big Beautiful Bill, Mamdani's NYC Victory) | Ep418 - Look Forward - Progressive Political News

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay. I'm here with my co host
Brad Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Brad, Hello, Jay. We have a lot of stuff to
get to today, but I wanted to just start by
kind of opining about how this government currently manages to
find new and exciting ways to like really piss you off.
It you couldn't even think of really in advance. And

(00:49):
so the reason we're late this week and didn't working
out okay from a content standpoint at least, So there's
you know, silver mining there, But the reason were relates
because I had a you know, we had a sudden
pet death in the family earlier this week that was unexpected,
which really fucking sucks, and it definitely, you know, definitely

(01:10):
threw us into asunder in the in the household all week.
And yet as I'm grieving as as one does, underpinning
my grief is guilt. And it's just like, why the
fuck do I feel guilty about being sad about my
fucking cat dying when it was, you know, when we

(01:33):
weren't expecting that to happen at all, like completely out
a left field. And it's because like I can't help
but look to see all of the destructions being wrought,
you know, by this administration, by this Congress, by the
Supreme Court right now, and not feel that my issues
and the thing that I'm sad about is fucking trivial
compared to everything else going on. So it's on top

(01:55):
of being very sad and upset about, you know, all
the stuff that's going on, I now also get to
feel guilty because I'm just like, well, you know, at
least I'm not fucking getting deported out of the country
or losing access to my medicaid or you know, stuff
like that, like if they just.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Shipped to a concentration camp.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, like it feels like like it feels pretty pretty
benign compared to all of that shit. And and as
I'm trying to agree, like just you know, scrolling social
media and being innundated with being bobarded with this, uh,
with this shit going on, which really fucking sucks. Like
I missed the days where you could afford to just
unplug from the news of the day for a couple
of days, to be in your own shit and not

(02:34):
have to worry about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So yeah, now that we had that luxury for a very,
very long time, and then sort of nine to eleven happened,
and then that changed, right, because then we went to war,
and then it's like you probably shouldn't turn off considering
all the horrendoushit that's going on. And then we got
a bit of a reprieve during the Obama years and

(02:59):
that felt pretty good. You're like, cool, I can pay attention,
but it's not. Everything is not in chaos, so I like, hey,
take a week.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Off every day is not fucking make or break right exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And then we had four years that you were not
allowed to take off. Actually, even before that, I would
argue it's probably like more like four and a half
to five years of just complete chaos under Trump and
his run up to the to becoming president. Then we
got a nice four year reprieval, which was really nice,
and it felt good, and I'm sure collectively people's blood

(03:31):
pressure went down, even for the right, right. I know,
they pretend like it was the worst four years of
their life, but like, bro, nobody was worried about if
there were gonna be nuclear missiles flying across the world.
They just weren't, like that's just not not a thing.
And now we're back to another four years question mark
of whatever the fuck this is. Look, I hear you

(03:56):
as far as not being able to kind of pull
back a little bit and actually like live your life.
You have to be you know this, this sort of
looming nightmare is always there. But I have I have
a different take. My take is this, and I'm sure
actually ultimately this is probably a part of your take
as well. Is I don't want to hear shit about

(04:22):
equality between the parties. I don't want to hear anything
about maybe one party is letting it happen, you know,
because you're not fighting hard enough. I don't give a
shit about that. I saw a statistic. I think it's
like eighty nine million Americans didn't vote in the last election.
Fuck you, like straight up, like straight.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Up, I love I do love. I do love the
people on the left who were just like, ah, like
we've taken the weapons away from the Democrats, why aren't
they stopping this?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Like like I got into I got into literally like
I got into like literally four arguments, four different arguments
on Reddit. People are like just do something. I'm like, exactly,
what is the procedural thing you would like them to do?
Like it's that is like My default of.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
What they can do is what ho king Jefferies did
today and just hold the floor for it's a strong
amount of time, just to stall things from happening at
some point.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Like that's what they did in the Senate. That's what
they did in the Senate as well. Schumer was like,
go ahead and read the fucking bill, right, And I.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Think and I think, and we share just as much
blame for this because the terms are the terms, and
so like, I think it would help to talk about
stuff like this, like when you when you do talk
about things like this, like with your friends and your family,
appropriate the credit to the people that it's due. So
like when you talk about this building passed, don't say

(05:45):
Congress passed the bill. Say Republicans passed the bill because
not a single Democrat in the House or the Senate
voted for this bill to be passed. And they say, well,
you know, Congress like Democrats that, yeah, they didn't vote
for it. Like Republicans did this by themselves, So let
them enjoy all of the credit or blame that goes.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's all blame.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, it's gonna be like people actually realize what the
fuck's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
So yeah, and look, man, I I have to say,
I'm just genuinely very angry, not at it's not even
this this bill passing and it's going to go to
the President's desk. And I mean, obviously he's gonna get
out of his fucking big sharpies because he writes like

(06:29):
a fucking.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
He's got he's got a whole fucking he's got a
whole fucking shindig plan for tomorrow, because nothing, nothing celebrates
the day that we declared our independence from a tyrant,
and a tyrant you know you salt signing the legislation
that he bullied over the line into effect.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
So well, he's he's going, ironically, he gets to declare
independence uh from you know, you know, doing his job,
or or independence from the law basically, right, because what
is going to happen when he signs this law isn't
just some fiscal issues, which, by the way, this is
not shooting America in the foot. This is, as someone said,

(07:09):
this is shooting America in the chest. Okay, there is
four a four trillion dollar hole blown in the fucking
uh four four trillion dollars worth of debt added to
the deficit. If you're not mad, at this it's because
you're not paying attention, or you're or you're so exhausted

(07:30):
from being mad, which is definitely a thing too. I
recognize that I need everyone to realize that people are
going to suffer in ways that you do not realize
even now. And there are a lot of and somebody
online made a really good point, and I think it's
worth noting here. A lot of this shit is going

(07:53):
to go into effect right after the midterms. So if
Democrats do somehow pull out the ability to take both
chambers or you know, or or the House or what
have you, understand that this is designed in a way
to then point the finger at Democrats and go see

(08:13):
what they did. It doesn't matter what legislation they do
or do not pass, It doesn't matter anything. When things
start to fall the fuck apart, understand what it is.
It is timed on purpose. There was a reason that
the tax cuts were timed to go across even four
years of Biden, so that when it blew up in
his face you could blame him. There was a reason

(08:36):
that Trump signed that fucking deal with the Saudi's to
slow production and that that production would end while Joe
Biden was present. That was on purpose that in case
he lost, that the other guy would get fucked. If
he won, he would just be like, hey change them,
and so he'd be fine. Right. Understand that this is

(08:58):
not happenstance, This is on purpose. Republicans are fucking useless,
period period. And if you say, oh, you mean Republican
voters or do you mean Republican politicians, yes, I'm I

(09:20):
don't know what to say to a group of people
who pretend to be fiscally responsible that will sign off
on quite literally the top one percent getting a trillion
dollars in tax breaks. That is not me making that up.
That's literally what they're doing. It is a trillion dollars.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Like literally almost one to one, paid for by pushing
people off of Medicaid and eliminating as much as they
can of the social safety net that exists in this country.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
By the way, a lot of people are talking about
the Medicaid cuts, and we will talk about them just
so we're clear. This also does damage to medicare as well. Okay,
I want people to understand that the passage of the big, big,
beautiful Bill will also force mandatory sequestration that will mean
a half a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts, right, he doesn't.

(10:16):
They don't advertise that shit because that's his constituency. But
they're gonna lose five hundred billion dollars in funding in
Medicare because of this bill. Are you still convinced that
it's both sides? Because thirteen to seventeen million people are

(10:37):
going to lose healthcare under this show me the Democratic
equivalent to that one junk to me? Please? By all means? Oh,
both sides, they're just letting it happen. Really, Okay? On
what planet does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
So?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I like, I'm already sort of passed being nice to
people that vote for this type of ship, or support
this type of ship, or who are sort of ambivalent
about this. But I'm like, I'm I'm two steps past
that or two standard deviations pass my anger last week, okay,

(11:17):
watching Republicans literally go, I don't know about this bill? Hey,
would you like some fucking concentration can't merch and assigned
picture of the president? Oh? Yeah, I would cool. Is
he gonna put his small penis in my mouth or
just he's gonna send me a picture of it in
my mouth?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
I know, I know, we're skipping around the dock a
little bit, but I feel like it's important.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
To fucking annoying underscore.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
The idiocy behind a lot of these Republicans who were
like on the fence about this stuff, like you literally had.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Sent They were never on the fence, sure.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Like like in reality, yes, but you literally had set
when they passed the bill had to the Senate, like
Lisa Murkowski made you know, had a viral clip this
week because she voted for the bill and on her
way out, like doing interviews on the way out of
the chamber after voting for the bill, she's like, yeah,

(12:18):
I hate this bill and I hope the House doesn't
pass it. And it begs the question if that's the case,
then why the fuck did you vote for it?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
So her her argument was that when they came to
Medicaid cuts in Alaska, they were like, you know, these
are the cuts we're doing across the board. Guess what's happening, right,
And she's like, no, no, no, who whoa, whoa. I
don't like that. I care about the nine people who
live in Alaska. This is really important to me. It's
me those other nine people and some eskimos or what happens, right,

(12:55):
and you know, the fucking salmon right and bears and shit,
so I hear it's love like. But she came out,
she was like, Hey, you don't have my vote on
this because I care about the people of my state
unlike all the rest of you pieces of shit, and
I want a carve out so that my people are
or they promised. They were like, hey, we'll do a
carve out. Don't worry about it. It's like nine people

(13:15):
in Alaska. We got you, or fucking you, you're aokay,
And she was like, oh, great, okay, cool. As much
as I hate everything else in this bill, cool, you
saved my people, So fuck the entire rest of the country.
And when she signed on to that, they got her vote.
She fucking voted for it. They immediately were like, hey,
did she vote for cool? Take all of the shit

(13:36):
that we promised her out. So not only did she
fucking turn her back on the rest of the country
to protect the nine people who live in fucking Alaska,
you didn't even get the shit for the nine people
who live in Alaska, and they got your vote, you
dumb fucking bitch.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right, And as she's talking about her opposition to the
bill after she voted for it, Like she literally says,
I know that there's going to be a lot of
people in the country that are disadvantaged by what's in
this bill. And again it begs the question you like,
like if Lisa Rokowski had said no, the bill would
not have made it out of the Senate, which is

(14:13):
ultimately why she voted for it.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
But again, like you can't vote for something and be like, yeah,
I hope it gets killed in the House. Well, why
did you then don't fucking vote for it? Well, like, literally,
what is your job?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Literally?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
What is your job? I mean fucking it?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
And it's mirrored by the skotus because that's what the
same thing they fucking did this week, Right, It's insane.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And if you think if you think that's dumb, it
gets dumber in the House because there was reporting throughout
the day today at the beginning of the day that
there was as many as twenty Republicans who were no
votes on this version on the Senate version of the bill,
because the Senate version somehow worse than what the House

(14:56):
passed weeks ago, like amazingly, like you think that it
would it would get more sane in the Senate. Somehow
it went even more bad shit in the Senate, which
is which is unfathomable. But okay, So you have twenty
House Republicans that are like, we're not on board. We're
gonna withhold our votes for this ship. As Jay alluded to,
many of them convinced by getting swag from the President

(15:19):
to be like, hey, like, I know you don't want
to fuck over your constituents, but how about some merch
that's signed by me, Donnie Donnie T. And they're like, well,
that's all I fucking needed. Can I get one of
those sweet Trump watches and Trump phones and a pair
of Trump sneakers to go with that. He's like, yeah,
absolutely sure, Like you know here, I got I got them,
I got them to the White House. Cool, I'm gonna
vote yes and this ship now. And they're literally going

(15:39):
on television.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
They didn't change, they didn't change anything. They didn't even
ask our concessions.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Nothing change nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Then they go on TV.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And talk to you know, talking even even in friendly
you know, friendly confines like and Fox and shit like that,
and they're going on TV and being like, hey, like
you were a no on this what change your mind,
because the bill is exactly the same, and they're basically saying, yeah,
we voted Yester this because the President assured us that
the that the worst parts of the bill he's just

(16:10):
not going to implement. So Congress is basically saying, hey,
we're gonna go ahead and vote on this legislative framework,
and we're going to give it to the president and
he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.
He can implement it, not implement it. It's literally the
same logic that they're using with the TikTok ban, where

(16:32):
they know they make get Congress to repeal the TikTok ban.
So Trump's just like, well, I'm just gonna tell the
DOJ not to enforce the ban against any of the
against any of the app companies, and that's how we'll
do that. Even though, if you like, the whole point
is that you have a Congress that makes the law
and they say, hey, this is the law, and the
president signs the law, and then you fucking follow it

(16:55):
and the president enforces the law. Like that's literally the
he sold the scripture of the job. So at this point,
if Congress is gonna be like, hey, we're gonna pass
bills and the president's gonna sign him into the law,
and then he can pick and choose which parts of
it he likes and we can do that. You don't
we don't have a democracy anymore. We have a king.

(17:16):
We have a king that has a court of advisors
that are like, hey, this is what we think you
should do. This is what we think will be a
good idea. And the King's like, well, we'll do this
because I think that's cool, but I'm not not a
big fan of this, so we're not gonna We're not
gonna go ahead and do that, and and and the
blame and and again, like everyone knows what they're doing.
Congress is saying, hey, this is on the president so
that they don't get blamed when ship go sideways. And

(17:37):
then the presidents, you know, when he definitely fucks up,
something like oh this was in the bill like this,
you know this, this is what they decided was well
the smart thing like that. There's another story that came
out where they basically like Trump was having a meeting
with a lot of these folks and he basically tells them, hey, like,
whatever you guys do, like the key if you want

(17:58):
to win elections. The key is you can't touch Social Security, Medicare,
or Medicaid. And they literally had to tell him, but
this bill affects medicaid.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, which which was a perfect reference on Blue Sky.
It's like but black dynamite, I sell drugs in the
community like that.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
So Trump doesn't even know what's in the billing.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
He doesn't know what's in the bill. He doesn't know
what's in the bill.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You don't know, So we don't have a Congress, I mean,
and like as long as Republicans turn in charge, we
don't have a Congress because they're just like whatever, like
we're gonna pass whatever we have to do, and then
if he doesn't want to do it, like again this
this Republican Congress, like like Republicans in Congress has said
they're fine with him impounding money that they allocate toward

(18:45):
towards specific uses, which is illegal. Like he's not allowed
to do that. Impoundment is profoundly illegal, and the Republicans
are like whatever, bro, like he's the boss.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean quite literally, why did we even leave the
fucking British Empire at this point? Yeah, I mean I guess,
I guess King George and fucking Hamilton was right, you'll
be back, like, you know what, maybe we will. What
the fuck he was.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Two hundred and fifty years late on that prediction.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
But you know, look, look, look technically, being technically right
is the.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Best form of the right, absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
So it's like, to me, I just don't even understand
what the fuck the argument is for people saying I
don't know, man, they all seem to be the same.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Well, one is literally fucking.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Against the democracy in which.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
You live in.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
They're dumb?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Is that stupid? That's the fucking answer, like like like
the like again, people are dumb, and and again like that, I.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Thought, don't we have to don't we have to be
like deferential and protecting. That's it. That's the thing in
politics that I will never fucking understand is, oh, let's
all pretend the American people I love them. Politicians say
the American people are smart. No the fuck they're not. Okay,
they're not. Most people read it a fucking very read
or below reading level. They're not that smart.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
A lot of the book being like, man, like, the
jaded level on the show is really increasing the six months.
You know what, you're entitled to some citizens have something
for free. Yeah, you certainly earned it over the past.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
We're serving it up. We're serving it up hot and
fresh today. Okay. Like that idea of like, oh, they're
really smart, No they're not. They're not. Okay, they're not.
Never never forget that. This is one of my favorite
fucking things of all time. Never forget that. What was
it Burger King, I think, or Wendy's or something they
used to have, like the third pound burger or you know,

(20:50):
like something like that, and people thought that that was
smaller than a quarter pounder. So that's why they stopped
selling it. The smartest country in the world. No the
fuck it isn't. Okay it isn't. My daughter understands fractions
better than these people. Okay, and she's six. I got
a little pizza, right, But we have got us. We

(21:13):
have got to stop with the bullshit of like jerking
Americans off and telling them how great and brilliant they are.
They are making massive mistakes, massive mistakes, and look, I'll
be quite honest, I'm sure that you are probably sick
of them. But I gotta tell you, white people are
getting on my fucking nurse. Okay, I've had about as
much as I can take.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Holy I was I was gonna say, like, I cannot
say this because to say it would sound ridiculous because obviously,
like I will never experience like the what like what
it is to fucking be a different race in this
country other than white, Like I can't fathom that. But
I understand now just the complete lack of regard for

(22:02):
your fellow countrymen, because you know that they're they're just
gonna fucking let you down everything, like even though even
if you're doing even though you're doing the right thing. Yeah,
but that that I do understand.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah, Look, it's white men, Yeah disaster, Okay, like this disaster.
Your voting records are horrendous, not all of you, but
the vast majority as a populace, as a block, it
looks real bad as a block. You guys are not
doing well. You are not sending your fucking best. I

(22:35):
can guarantee you. Okay. Uh, white women, you are also
not sending your best.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And you better, but not by much, not good by much.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
You had two fucking opportunities and you fucked it up.
So here's my thing. White people in America are so
unbelievably short sighted when it comes to the mere idea
of sharing prosperity in the United States, that they are

(23:07):
literally willing to destroy it. If I can't have it
by myself, nobody's getting it. Wait, but but nobody needs
me too.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Holy, that's the motto of whiteness throughout. Fucking burn it down.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Why the British there there there's a British like colloquialism
that like, if you give a britain like a choice
between his happiness or someone else's misery, he'll choose someone
else's misery.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Like every Americans are no different, Like white Americans absolutely
adopted that. That's specific, you know, a bit of a
bit of psyche from from from our friends across the pond.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I mean, here, here's the thing I saw. There was
some sort of commentator or you know, political pundit or
what have you. I don't I recognize his face, but
but I don't know his name. Unfortunately, he's a white dude.
And he and he was like, listen, I'll be quite
honest with you. Trump governing govern government, governing in the
way that he's doing now in his administration, it only

(24:17):
leads to a pat an easier path for a president AOC,
and he's one hundred percent correct at a certain point,
because we are going to get to a point where
even Republicans are like, wait, what the fuck is going on?
And they're gonna look around and you're gonna see a
bunch of rich people fucking bill money, guns and ship.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Bill Crystal is on Al Gore's Internet saying we need
to defund and abolish ICE, Like there's video police are
you going around of Bill Crystal being like ice does
not need to be a thing anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Hell, but but this is inevitable. It's inevitable that people
are going to slide and look good by the way.
I think that's great, but it is a inevitable that
when you behave this way, you know, like the fucking
laws of the universe, right, laws of thermo dynamics, right,
like you know, you know this idea of like an

(25:10):
opposite you know, an opposite force, you know is because
you're pushing one way, you're eventually going to get pushed
the other way. You just you will an equal and
opposite force will rise. And whether it's AOC or fucking whoever,
you're going to get that. I hate that this is
how we have to get there, right, because I'm not
an accelerationist, because people are going to get hurt and

(25:31):
people and children are going to die because of this ship, right,
I would rather we get there like a bunch of
normal fucking people and go, hey, what are the right ideas? Cool,
let's vote for that instead of fucking having people die
because they don't have food or medical care. But that
all being said, I one thing I do know, or

(25:51):
I will speculate, Trump is the Trump is the last
boomer president. That's it. There will be none after him.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, they're all to be.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Dead anyway, No, but but there's still there's still a
chance of picking some old motherfucker like there is right,
like some like seventy five year old Parli. I'm young, right,
I'm burning right, I'm still I'm still spry type of ship.
He's the last one. He's the last boomer president on
either side, by the way, because I think and we'll
talk about it. Zora Mumdani showed that if there's a

(26:22):
future that you want, it exists and it's there, you
just have to give a fuck to reach out and
grab it.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well, we'll see if he uh, we'll talk about him later.
Because I have some thoughts about the reaction to his
his for sure us let's let's talk about what's in
very very broadly, what's in uh this stupid fucking bill
that they passed so obviously, Like we talked about the
fact that extending tax cuts for primarily the richest among

(26:57):
us a couple of shows ago, Jay and I kind
of ran down the exomic impact that the tax cuts
will have, and again to pay for that, they reduce spending,
an eligibility for Medicaid and snap benefits basically, which means
millions of people are going to get straight kicked off
the programs, and something that I if you watched last week

(27:18):
tonight this past weekend, a lot of people will fall
off because of the additional hurdles that are being built
into these programs that they then have to have to
climb over, so they'll just you know, kind of get
frustrated by the by the bureaucracy of it all. You're
also getting taking wind and solar companies and reducing the

(27:38):
amount of tax credits UH they will receive, which means
that adoption of those energy UH will be lessened by Americans.
You're losing the ev tax credits. It is requiring where
is that America party? Where's that America party? Elon, we
were talking all that ship get to work. Yeah, well again,

(27:59):
wait wait until government contracts come up and then all
of a sudden, he'll change his tune. Lads. That's why
that story is not even on the docket this week,
because he's not worth fucking talking about.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Not for no, not for no.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yep, they did strip out the Senate did strip out
the ten year moratorium on AI regulation, which is probably
the one positive that came out of the final passage
of this bill, because that's going to be a pretty
fucking big deal, but that's still a thing. Also, they
did strip out a ban on Medicaid funding for gender

(28:33):
affirming care, so that's again a small silver lining with
this stuff. However, the other big kicker that we found
out about today, this also provides forty five billion dollars
for immigration detention facilities and an additional thirty billion dollars
annually for ICE personnel and operations, which now makes ICE

(28:58):
more funded than the FBI and several of the other
alphabet law enforcement agencies combined, which.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Is and larger than the militaries of some countries, by
the way, most countries, actually, yeah, most right, there's only
most countries except for like the top.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Ten countries, except for the top ten essentially, yeah, so
we so we are now paying our immigrant, our gestapo
round up force more than again, the FBI is literally
making who is the terrorism prevention group? I think I
know which one I'd rather give more monies too, if
you're gonna give money to either of them. But that's uh,

(29:34):
but there you go with that.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
And by the way, just quickly, Italy, Italy, Israel, Israel, Okay,
the Netherlands, Brazil and Switzerland and everyone else. Besides, like
the big boys, their military budget is lower than Ice.
Israel is in the middle of perpetual wars with a
bunch of fucking countries, and their military budget isn't as

(29:58):
big as a bunch of goddamn bounce hunters who cover
their faces and harassed ladies at court hearings as much
money as they get.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I love the fucking police state we just signed up
on because by the way, that gets fucking worse, right,
because Ice was almost out of money like in the
last couple of days. So now they get thirty would
you say thirty or forty what I.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Thirty thirty billions ice itself and then an additional forty
five billion spent on expanding detention facilities, kind of like
the concentration camp that Ron DeSantis opened up in Florida
this week.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah and so, and then thirty billion dollars a year
in general fund to them. Yep, cool, cool, great guys,
good job.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Good, good job America.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
So the amount of people who will potentially die in
these ice concentration camps was is that more important that
that happened or less important that Kamala Harris was laughed
in a video a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'm just curious, Hey, we're where all the press reports
of the uh you know when when Kyle Harris talked about, Hey,
this shit's gonna happen if you like them again and
and the media said, oh, this is a lie. There's
nothing to substantiate what she's saying here, any made couples
that you've seen from any major publications on on that uh,

(31:23):
on those stories like hey, like remember when we said
that she was lying back in October when we talked
about this stuff. Turns out she might have been right
about some of these things.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Her Hillary Clinton. I don't know, man, I'm not I'm
not saying everybody's perfect. But in there in those two
cases when they talked about what what was gonna happen?
Hashtag believe women because they were fucking right. Both of
them were absolutely correct every single thing they said that
asshole would do in all of their debates with him
and all their fucking stump speeches. They were one hundred

(31:53):
percent correct. But a bunch of boneheaded, dumb fuck men
were like, it's a girl pro and so they decided
to let the fucking country get lit on fire. Cool. Thanks, guys,
appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
But hey, while while this was going on, Jay, you'll
be super happy to learn as as this was getting
passed through Congress, like the most consequential piece of legislation
in our lives, in our lives to this point. CNN. Uh.
You know they're like, you know, what's what's actually interviewed?
Joy Chestnut. You know he's coming back for the hot
dog eating contest. That's that's that's the news that people

(32:30):
need to know.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I mean, is he gonna win tomorrow? I don't know, yes, probably,
I don't give a ship. What are we talking about
right now? This is fucking dumb. Also, I like, keep
that keep that rain in America, borrow with your giant colon.
I guess I just I don't think people realize how
fucking serious this is. And when I say people, I

(32:55):
don't even just mean fucking American citizens, right, because of
course they don't, right unless you're in this ship like
were are we are, and we're reading this ship and
watching this shit. People in the news media don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I don't think they, like, like, the only the only
people that apparently knew this was going to happen are
liberals or the people that are are now experiencing the
consequences every day of what's of what's going on because
you're seeing because you see the stories pop up and again,
this stuff doesn't get reported where people can actually see it.

(33:27):
But if you're like us and sick freaks and go
to like you know, leopards leopards ate my Face Subreddit
and stuff like that, like we we get to see
these stories all the time of people who like, oh shit,
like I voted for this stuff and now it's and
now the boomerang back into my face and now I
don't know if I'm gonna have healthcare. I don't know
if I'm going to be able to afford this medicine

(33:48):
that I need to live. I don't know if I'm
going to have a job. I don't know. You know
all this kind of.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Kids, right, yeah, I mean we're literally there was a
story this week, not to derail this conversation, there's a
story this week of a guy, a MAGA supporter, whose
wife was picked up by ice. She's gone, I heard
about this, gone. This dude's like, still fly the MAGA flag.

(34:16):
I understand what the president's doing. I'm like, all right,
cool man, you're a fucking idiot, or you hate your wife.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's not a call, though, it's not a call.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
They put your wife in fucking what I assume will
be some sort of concentration campus where she's going to
end up or deported to a country she's not from, right,
because that's totally legal and fine with the fucking scotis right.
So maybe she can get sent to Sea Cot or
sent to some other fucking country to be attacked and
raped and beaten. But you know, you gotta fly that

(34:45):
flag because you cannot admit that you're dumb. Right, your eggs,
it's your fucking family. But you can't put the ship
together enough to go, you know what, I've probably made
a mistake. I know, admitting that you're wrong online is
really hard, and it's definitely hard in real life. I
get that. But if I supported something and in support

(35:07):
of that, they picked up my family and put them
in a fucking van and disappeared them, maybe, just maybe
I might go, I might have fucked up, dah, maybe
put the flag down? And I hate being wrong. Doesn't
happen very often, but I hate it, And even I
would be like, fucking take the flag down, and it's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable. But it's just to me, it's a sign.

(35:29):
It's a sign one you're in a cult and you're
function very well. It doesn't work function very well. I like,
I'm just I'm so sick and tired of us having
as a country to be nice to morons who are
throwing us off a fucking cliff. The news media is

(35:49):
literally like, well, you know, this is probably not great. No,
it's not that it's not great. This is isn't even
a financial bill completely, This is a bill that does
irreputable damage to what America is fundamentally, fundamentally it is
this scot has made a fucking ruling.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Today that get there, it's on the docket. Yeah, like, yeah,
there's plenty to talk about there, trust Esus Christ speaking
of abdicating responsibilities. And again for the news media, maybe
just don't print stuff verbatim that comes out of the
mouths of Republicans because they're lying to you. Yeah, Republicans

(36:30):
like have been all over TV today about this kick
like oh, like this Medicare the Medicare changes only affect
twenty nine year old jobless guys that are playing video
games in their mom's basement, Like, what the fuck are
you talking about, dude? Like literally two thirds of the
people in this country that are on Medicaid are employed,
they work jobs, and the other third are kids or

(36:54):
the elderly, or the disabled or you know, like I
think people that cannot work and go hold down a
fucking steady job. So and that, and that's why this
program is there, because it's there to help subsivise those folks.
Those people aren't like like you're gonna fucking tell a
sixty year old who has you know, some sort of disability, like,
get the fuck back out but go go to Walmart

(37:16):
and start working the door.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, look into Walmart. I love you.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, I like like like so so stop so stop
stop letting. You know, Republicans come on your fucking Airlism Live. Also,
when you talk about this stuff and this starts at
the headline and goes on down, don't just print what
the administration says, because if you're just rea, if you're

(37:41):
just rep printing the words that they say without any
context or anything like that, you're not a news agency.
You were a You're you're a press release.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You're a fucking stenographer. At that point, like that's all,
that's all you are. Here's a here's another thing about
the news media that really bothered me. This is a
very important thing. This bill is very important. It is
very detail heavy, it is it is an incredibly important
thing for people to have as much information about it

(38:12):
as possible to put in their back pocket so that
they understand what is coming and what is going to
happen to them. Just for today, guys, just for today,
can we stop making every fucking article about this behind
your fucking paywall. It would really help to get that
this is a thing that people need to know and
they're like, well, the bill passed, click here to sign

(38:35):
up to find out what's in it. Dude, Come on,
come on, some things need to be Just push it
free for the masses. Just push it free for the masses,
because certain things are more important than your revenue stream.
For one fucking article, I understand a lot of people
are gonna read it. Hey, if you do real reporting,
more people will sign up to your fucking newspaper instead

(38:56):
of you just putting everything behind a goddamn paywall or
ease alternative.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Maybe stop supporting corporate media and support independent media and
independent journalism because they're.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
The one that's good. That that's good.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Like independent media too, I'd like to.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Know that's true. But support independent journalism that that that
are doing good work, that are actually reporting on the
facts and not just touting, not not just you know,
parroting lines coming from the administration.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
And by the way, when when Brad says that we're
not talking about us, I'm talking about like actual journalists
like that are on substacks and ship like that that
are doing you know, Maddie Hassani, like doing real shoe
leather fucking journalism. Support those people also support us, but
support those people too, right, Like that's that's that's important.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I just.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
My level of anger because of this bill is like
it's fucking over the moon. Man, It's over the moon
because I know what's coming and and I know. So
I shouldn't even say that I know some of what's
coming because I didn't sit and read nine hundred fucking
pages spoilered. Almost no one did. Okay, almost no one fucking.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Did, including including people that voted for.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
It, especially especially the people who voted for it. Yah's
fucking idiot, who's gonna sign it tomorrow? Right, So we
need to understand that, like I was saying earlier, shit
is gonna come down the pipe, and it is going
to be fast, and it is going to uh no
pun intended, furious in the way in which it does

(40:35):
damage to the country. It will, and you need to
be you need to be aware of like these things
aren't happen since these are things in this fucking bill, man,
these are things in this bill. Snap benefits fucking healthcare,
Like people just not gonna have food, Poor people just
not gonna have food. All of the things that you
say you love about America, What the fuck are they
after this bill from Republicans? What the fuck are they?

(40:59):
You hate the people who live in the country that
don't look like you. If they don't have a lot
of money, you don't like them either. You fucking hate
their guts. If they're women, you don't want them to
have their rights to their bodies. If they're minorities, you
don't want them to have fucking any rights. If they
came to the country after your ancestors came to the country,
they're fucking bad news. If they have kids who were
born here, they're also not okay. They need to be deported.

(41:20):
If they came illegally, they need to get the fuck out.
If they came legally, they need to get the fuck out.
That you don't You don't want taxes to be higher
so that you can pay for shit like quality roads
and bridges and infrastructure and healthcare. You don't want taxes
to be high. Right, You don't want any taxes, if
we're being fucking honest, right, You you hate innovation because

(41:42):
that comes up with things like you know, vaccines and shit,
because you don't want to take those. But you also
don't want to not have innovation because you want to
say that you're the greatest health You have the greatest
health care in the world, but you don't believe doctors.
You hate science, but except for the science that allows
you to do the shit that you want to do,
like get on the internet and spew hate in fucking

(42:03):
a bunch of like dumb fucking rhetoric. You love that science, right,
you love that technology, but you hate all this stuff
when it's opposed to the things that you believe. Right,
you don't care about children. You care about people being born,
That's all you care about the second they're born. Could
give a fuck.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Maxwell Frost if you didn't get to see that banger
that he.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, yeah, they got mad at him. I'm like, like,
the fuck is he saying it ain't true? So all
of the things that you think prosperity and small businesses
and in home ownership and and opportunities, all of those
things are gutted by the things that you do. So
when I ask you what do you love about this country?
To quote that fucking HBO show Newsroom, Yomy, like what

(42:43):
the fuck is it? And you'd sell that off to
a corporation to dude drilling if you could. You don't
actually love the country. You don't. I get it. Liberals
seem like they don't love it because we can plain
a lot. We can plain a lot because we want
it to be better, not because we hate We want
it to be better. You complain a lot because you

(43:03):
actually don't like anything. When you're given absolute power and control,
you still hate everything and you still hate all the
people in it because you don't fundamentally like the country.
What you like is to say you like the country.
You like rhetoric, You like to wear a flag because
that feels fucking cool. It's not about what the fucking

(43:24):
flag represents, about what the history of the country represents.
That's the shit you don't like. I see white fucking
conservatives get on TV and be like, why is Juneteenth
a fucking holiday. It's the most American fucking holiday. It's
the most American holiday. That full fucking, full fucking citizenship
to everyone who lives inside the country who helped build it.

(43:46):
That's a thing that you don't like because you don't
like the country in which you live. Fuck you, and
fuck the eighty nine million people who didn't even bother
to try to keep it together. This to me is
fundamentally the fucking fork in the road of whether or
not America fucking survives today, this passing. Quite literally, I

(44:09):
do not think that this is a small deal. I
do not think in two weeks we're gonna be like, Wow,
that's the next fucking story. This shit is going to
have massive fucking repercussions. There's a hospital in fucking Curtis, Idaho,
where the fuck that was. They were like, hey, we're
the only rural hospital in this fucking area. Like they're
just us. By the way, we're closing.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
In a thirty mile radius, thirty mile radius.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
They're the only fucking medical facility in the thirty mile
radius of this rural fucking town. And they're closing because
they are largely funded by Medicaid because nobody out there
got fucking no money. Bro they're broke, and these are
poor white people, right And by.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
The way, that's that's the irony of the whole thing,
is that the place that it's gonna hit hardest and
quickest is rural areas that voted to this fucking idiot.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah to be that area, by the way, that is
losing that hospital. And they came out and said it
is because of this bill is because of these Medicaid cuts,
we are closing that hospital, or excuse me, that county
or district that they're in voted for Donald Trump seventy
by seventy four percent. He won that place by seventy
four percent. And I'm not saying though, those people deserve

(45:18):
to get fucking hurt. Right, the people, especially the people
who did not vote for this right, I want everybody
to have medical covers, right like I want everybody to
be able to go to the hospital. Even if I
think you're a piece of shit, fucking dirtbag, I want
you to still be able to go to the hospital.
But this is what you get for not fucking paying
attention or letting your your anti woman, anti black bullshit

(45:39):
rule your life, or anti democratic bullshit rule your life.
Now you're fucked. Now, you're fuck Now me Ma broke
her hip. You gotta drive her as sixty goddamn miles
to find a fucking hospital. Good luck. What do you think,
by the way, what do you think when that hospital closes?
You think it's just a medical care? Guess what? That's
probably an anchor for peace. People having fucking jobs too,

(46:02):
So now people don't have jobs either good job, dumb dumbs.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Oh I didn't vote for this.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
And.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Like like like and you think those fucking doctors, those
fucking nurses are gonna go work at the fucking coal
mine that you're trying to reap and know they'll leave
your fucking state to go get a job at another
hospital that's fucking open. YEP.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I mean sorry to tell you, but guess where the
place is uh that people are gonna want to be
when all this ship hits the van Blue cities, blue
cities and blue states. You know why because those are
the places that actually have revenue coming in. They're generating revenue,
they're not completely relyant on the federal government to survive.
Not your fucking red states. They're fucked. Your little red

(46:46):
town is fucked, Your little red city is fucked. You
did it? We tried to tell you? Who tried to
tell you?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Add nausea like like like like I said, this may
be really shitn't me. But like my natural instinct, whenever
I hear anybody complain about any of this stuff, like
if I hear it in person to my face or
like all my social media and stuff like that, my
first question every time is gonna be who'd you vote for?

(47:15):
Because that literally is going to determine the level of
empathy that I have. Who'd you vote for?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Nobody? Go fuck yourself? Who'd you vote for? Jill Steyn?
Go fuck yourself twice? Who'd you vote for?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Get the fuck out of my face before I kick
you down a hill, like you don't understand what you did.
I saw this something like douchebag, fucking young dude. I
don't know, I'm old, like young people get on my nerves, okay,
but he was just like, it's just some fucking some
fucking influencer or whatever, and he's in this house that's

(47:47):
like enormous, and I guess he made his money on
fucking Twitch or some shit. I have no idea. And
he's like, look, bro, I just voted for Donald Trump
because I just want to make more money. I'm just greedy.
I'm just greedy. And now I have to pay terriffs
you muffler from my car, and I'm like, hey, do
me a favor. Why don't you get into your car,
or actually, why don't you just walk out your house,
find the busiest fucking h bit of traffic in your

(48:08):
town and just walk into it. Walk into it, because
you couldn't spend two seconds to think about anyone but yourself.
If you still watch that guy, whoever the fuck you is,
If you still watch that guy, you're an asshole. You're
an asshole. Hey, this guy's telling you he's trying to
fuck your country up. I don't give a shit, bro,

(48:28):
I'm just trying to get money from me. He's an asshole,
and you're an asshole if you support him. Fifty Cent
came out and said, i' give two hundred fifty thousand
dollars to Zoramondani if he just goes away. If you
buy that guy's albums or you watch his shows, you're
an asshole. He is a rich person, literally trying to
destroy your life, and you were giving him money to
do it. You're an asshole for that. Stop watching Power

(48:50):
and all this other shit. Stop letting these people rule
your life because of entertainment. Stop they don't because.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
They don't give a fuck about you.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
They don't. They don't give a fuck about you. They don't.
I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, Like, if you're gonna if
you're gonna support these people, don't support the people who
are literally going on television and online telling you they
don't give a fuck at least like the you know,

(49:20):
like random rich person who's just like I just don't
say anything. I probably support this shit. Like okay, fine,
you don't know for sure, but fifty cent is telling
you I would rather have a person who's tried.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
It's the thing, like, I'm sure there are tons of
companies that I frequent and give money to that you know,
have people CEOs and executives that that the Republican Party,
but they're not in my face about it. So I
can I can have Chick fil A is like, no,
we're gonna give all this money to anti gay organizations.
Well guess what then, I'm not buying your fucking chicken
salas y.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yeah, I can pour pickle juice on chicken. It ain't
that fucking hard. I don't mean you're Christian Jesus Chicken,
get out of here here. It's very good. So yeah,
I'm just I don't know where are we in the dock?
And I'm just angry. The doc should have just been
angry with the link to the fucking character.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
From It's I think it's cool for us to be
uh for us to be angry. You know what, Let's
let's stay angry, Jay, Let's let's stay mad. Democrats Republicans
like the whole full fucking nine. So I'm I'm pleased
to tell everybody that my my cynicism and my skepticism
about the New York Democratic mayor primary U on the

(50:32):
last episode was unwarmthed. Not only was I wrong, I
was super wrong about about how this ship would go,
uh or Mamdani not only one. He beat the ever
living dog ship out of Andrew Cuomo. Mam Donnie had
the nomination sewn up by the third round of rank choice,

(50:56):
calling no so so they he conceded because it was
clear the lead that he had on election night, Like
once the rank choice stuff got sorted out, there was
no fucking way so once so once they actually started
counting the votes and and like you know, reranking everybody
based on the rank choice thing, he was he had

(51:18):
it locked in, Like he was over fifty percent by
round three and the final total was him beating serial
sexual harassmer Andrew Cuomo by twelve points. Overall, he beat
him fifty six to forty four, which is an ass woman.
Yeah yeah that that that is a fucking beatdown, just

(51:41):
for the record, and I was reminded of this. Eric
Adams won his Democratic primary back in twenty twenty one
by less than a point, and he was anointed by
the media as like, oh, this is the future of
the Democratic Party. This is a guy that could could

(52:01):
tend for president one day, Like this is this is
a dude that's gonna be like the face of the
Democratic Party for years to come. He won his primary
by less than a single point in a non rank
choice primary.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Wait wait, wait, thought that he was gonna potentially be
a president one day?

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh yeah, words together, Well, we didn't. We didn't know
that at the time. I don't think like like like
he he had he hadn't reached peak Eric Adams at
that point yet, Like he was still kinda keep it
lit on it as it were, Mam. Donnie won wins
the primary by twelve points. And the reaction to that
is you would fucking think that iss had set up

(52:42):
camp in New York fucking City. Not just the reaction
from the right, by the way, Nope, but the center
left uh not fans of uh of Zaron Mamdani. Based
on the reactions that we saw from a lot of
folks uh in the party.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Well, it's good to know that ideologically everyone can come
together to be bigoted against.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Muslim, to be racist, violent for.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
No fucking reason. Look, I'm not a fan of uh.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
The anti it's been really it's been like like the
how disgusting the reaction has been in some corners of
the internet, Like the reaction is gonna be disgusting, like
like from like the worst, like like don't go on
Twitter obviously, like that's gonna be where it's absolutely the worst.
It's gonna be terrible. But like and again, like some

(53:41):
people who are just like center left democrats, like here's
what juwel Brand, Like, We're on a fucking radio show
and went on this like fucking racist screed about him
and then like try to walk it back being like
oh I was like I was misquoted or or or
they you know, they took my is that a context?
Like bitch, we can hear you like like audio.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Like like what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah,
like playing the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, just because you were as you fucked up, doesn't
mean that you were fucking misquoted, Like get the fuck
out of here and like like like and mom, honey,
is like being forced to not being forced to, but
like people are basically like inventing things that he said
that he didn't actually stay and then like are going
on the news and like talking about like well, what

(54:31):
shouldn't he have to answer for this? Like he didn't
say anything, like like what if the fun you dont about?
Like what do you mean he has to answer for
something that he didn't say. Like Eric Adams went, you know,
did the right wing immediate tour after the results were
announced earlier this week, and he's like oh, like like
you know he like this is this guy is the
most anti semitic person around stuff like that, like like
like you should see some of the stuff. What that
that he said about anti semitism and like some of

(54:53):
the and like the anchor was like, yeah, what, what's
like the one thing that you heard him saying? He's like, well,
you know, I don't have any specific examples, but you know,
if you look around, it's easy to find.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Like oh really, it's it's interesting that you don't have them.
That's all right here, okay, but yeah, yeah, I mean look, mum,
Donnie winning the primary is dope. I think it's really great.
I think that that. I think this dude's a real deal.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
I do.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I really do a side note, like just because it's
just the type of person I am. And I just
like to point this out. Uh m, Donnie's wife, uh
cutie Petudi, I love it, Okay, like adorable. People seem
to think he's a very handsome guy. I agree, he

(55:37):
is handsome. He's got he's got fucking charisma, right, Like,
he's funny, he's smart, he's young, he's thirty three, I believe.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Here's the funny thing I want to say about it.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So in the African.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
The way he.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
M just kidding.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Right, he was born in Ka, which which is why
this like like there's a story, like there's there's just
like then you will get there. Get Here's what's funny
about the reaction to him though, right, is that in
the wake of Trump winning the election back in November,
the initial reaction from Democrats, especially established with Democrats, was

(56:15):
one of panic because they're like, holy shit, we ran
out Joe Biden. Biden ran away. We had to quickly
replace him with Kamala Harris. We thought that Kamala Harris
would be appealing, like people didn't turn out for her
like we hoped they would. Democratic Party has major problem,
especially like when you look at the crosstabs and saw
like young like gen Z mails especially like went for

(56:36):
you know, Donald Trump in very concerning percentages and stuff
like that. So like they're like, holy shit, we are
out of touch with the young people. I were out
of touch with males. We need a fucking like, we
need to find a Joe Rogan of the left, Like
we need to find ways that we can reach these
people and stuff like that, and right they do.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I disagree with the Joe Rogan.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
No, I don't mean about having Joe Rogan at the left.
I mean they need to find a way to reach
to reach these folks. I'm not saying you have to
find a Joe Rogan character. And then here comes this
guy who's a socialist Democratic city councilman who runs for mayor,
who kicks the ship out of one of the most
well known politicians at the very least in that region,

(57:21):
a former governor of that state.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
He's also lets let us not bury the lead here,
he is also the son of a very very popular
fucking governor, you know, former governor. So like They're a
political dynasty in a lot of.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Ways, right in New York especially. Yeah, and this guy.
So there was some voter demographic information released in the
in the wake of the of the primary. Of the primary,
I have it here in front of him. Yeah, and
and by the way, like, so the one that you
have in front of you is slightly inaccurate. The Times
later issued a correction because they had some of the
stats they will incorrectly. The largest demic graphic turnout that

(58:01):
voted for Momdani were thirty to thirty four year olds.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Oh okay, interesting, The.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Second largest was eighteen to twenty five. So, holy shit,
you found a guy that is able to energize and
mobilize the very base of people that you want to
get out. And the Democratic Establishment Party's reaction is, well,
not like.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
That, right, How do we knife him? How do we
knife him in the back?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Yeah? Dude, he like again, this is the playbook, the
reason why AOC was able to knock off a fucking
like like like Joe Crandle, whatever the fuck that dude's
name was, that was in Congress for ten years and
is now like the most recognizable, most popular Democratic politician
in the country. Not just in her fucking district, but

(58:55):
in the country at large. Is the same playbook. It's
because she's authentic, she's a fighter. She speaks to the
issues of normal people. She does she she talks like
she she seems like a regular fucking person. She's not
ultra wealthy. She's not fucking sucking up. Uh, it's a
corporate pack dick trying to get money. Like she like
she has a grassroots campaign. She like like she's she's

(59:18):
she's in touch. She meets people where they are, like
she's constantly on social media and finding new avenues to
reach and engage people. That's the playbook. That's what she got.
That's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
How do we figure it out? How did they do it?
I don't know, man. They seem to not be a
thousand years old. That's it. They're just not a thousand
years old, and it's like, it's weird. I don't even
think it's like, this is the playbook. It's just that
they're not fucking old and they live in the world
in which I think. I don't think it's that simple.
I like, I think there's a little bit more complexity

(59:52):
than that.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
But again, we talk all the time on the show
about the reason why Donald Trump wins is because he
is perceived as like he's old as but he's perceived
as someone who's a fighter, who's gonna go out there
and sure people people the little guy and who and
who has a populous bent to it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Right, No, absolutely, but but I do think and this
this is partially my my risk, this is partially responsible
for my statement earlier, which is that I think that
Trump is the last boomer present, right, m hmm. It's
it's because of this, it's because of this very idea.
This is what people want, right even on even on
the right, they're like, we love we love fucking Donald

(01:00:31):
Trump or whatever. But make no mistake, if they got
Mamdani of the right, who was like hip and fucking
spoke to like twenty twenty five human beings, right, they
would fuck to that person. They would because young people

(01:00:52):
want to see much like minorities in movies would like
to see themselves up on the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
They do. It's important to them, that's important to everyone.
But for their entire lives, young people have only seen
a reflection of their parents and their grandparents, and so
they turn the fuck off. They they fucking turn on
the TV and there's an ads for this guy. It's like, hey, uh,
do you want falawful to be fucking eight dollars? Do
you want the bus to be free? Because you guys

(01:01:19):
take the bus all the time in New York and
it fucking shouldn't be that expensive. By the way, we're
not gonna make the subway free. Knock it off. There's
a lot of revenue, like I'm gonna do. I'm doing
like funny videos with people like that are social media
fucking influencers, but like not douchebags like I'm doing. Like
I did a fucking dance video with like some of
my Yugandan friends because I was born there and I

(01:01:40):
and you know, like and I connect with that culture
too because that's where I was raised and so I
was like seven or eight, right, and I live in
New York. And there's also probably a bunch of your
comments there as well. Right, they saw themselves in him,
and they saw a level of genuineness like in him,
and so when they see themselves in him, they flock
to it. Trump. You're right, Trump gives that same thing.

(01:02:03):
It's not it's actually not genuine, right, because he's a
fucking blue blood from New York. Well, the racist is
the racist exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
That part is real.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
And they saw somebody that would say the same ship
that they say in private. They saw that in him,
and they flocked to him. It actually isn't that hard
to understand. You just have to be willing to recognize
that young people who are part of your constituency that
you want have different priorities than you have as these
older democrats. If you can understand that and get the

(01:02:32):
fuck out of your own way and go, oh shit,
I'm one hundred and seven years old, and all these
young people really like this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I'd retire, baby, maybe not stake my entire identity on
the job that I have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Right, but but even if you don't want to retire,
start fucking pushing these fucking kids up, starting to like,
that's what you should be doing. Pelosi waited too long
to get Jeffreys where he was. She did. She made
it too long. She should have probably retired I don't know,
fucking seven eight years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
He should have been the Speaker of the House when
Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, that should have been the time where
she's like, cool, the country's in good hands. It's time
for me to fucking you go. You got it, big dog,
And that should have been the way that that plays,
because guess what if Jeffery's who's not like the best
of like raw raw speakers, he really isn't. But you know,
see all of the last number of days, I've got

(01:03:30):
a little bad But if you if you start to
show people, yeah, we're putting people who look like you
up front, like the fighting of AOC to take a
prominent role in that party is to their detriment. Dude,
you put her out front, that party is going to
ignite because they want to follow behind her. They do.

(01:03:50):
They like her, Like what the fuck are we doing? Like,
let's all get behind Bernie. Bernie is a thousand years
old I look. I like Bernie just fine, right, But
he is not the future. He is the past of
the far left. He is and they'll tell you, and
they'll tell you that by the way too, like it's
all who needs to retire? He needs to retire?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
His level of arrogance of like not wanting to fucking
let it go did more damage than I think people
fucking want to admit, quite honestly, because he shouldn't have
been in that fucking race, uh, the one twenty twenty.
He shouldn't have been in that race. He shouldn't have been.
He should have let that shit. He should have let
Warren run it, and he should have just fucking been like,
that's the ship and he should have stayed the fuck

(01:04:33):
out of it, but he he had. Look, they all
have ego, right, that's a problem, right. They all politicians
have ego, even the ones you love, even AOC they
all have ego. But the point is, if you're an
older politician, your job should be to be like, hey,
come on under this wing, let me show you all
the fucking the tricks of the trade, and I'm gonna
get that, and i'm gonna push you up and I'm
gonna get the fuck out of here. That should be

(01:04:55):
your mode. But what they do instead is go, I'm
to show you all the tricks of the trade. Cool,
you got him? Cool, I'm sticking around for ten more
years and then they can drag my dead corpse out
of here. And you're like, what why, Like this seems
this seems stupid, But that's what they do. Mom, Donnie,
is a moment for you as the Democratic Party to go,
you got it, bro, Like, to me, Cuomo fighting him

(01:05:18):
in the way that he fought him was a mistake.
That was a mistake, like one you shouldn't have been
in a fucking race at all. But to fight him
on like the Muslim shit and like photoshopping his face
and all that, you took away your opportunity to go, hey, man,
this young guy's got it. When you lose the race,
you can't back him. Now. You can't back him because
it seems insane.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
And he's not either, of course he's not, like, yeah,
he actually though he is not declared that he's gonna
run independent in the general, he's keeping his options open
like he he filed to be able to if he
wants to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Essentially, that's insane. That's insane to me. I mean, by
the way, if you run, you do realize that you
and Eric Adams are just fighting for the same d
bags and then you'll just destroy each other. And mom,
Donnie is like, I just walk.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
On, let me fucking mood walk into Gracy mansion.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Thanks dummy. Like, but if he had not gone at
him in the way they look, you can disagree, like, oh,
I'm not a socialist, you know, a democratic socialist or
whatever you can. You can go at him on that
if you want, but to go at him and be like,
you're an anthey, Semi, you're a fucking scary Muslim and
all this other ship. You destroy your opportunity as an
elder statesman to go hey man, we disagreed, But guess

(01:06:35):
what I'm putting. I'm putting the win to get that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You're you're you're you're Also you're also operating uder the
assumption that that Quomo was ever gonna be that guy
in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
No, but what I'm saying is no, of course. But
what I'm saying is if a Democratic party wants to
compete and he wants to do do like have power
going forward, you have to do that. And Democrats, look,
Republicans have this issue too, But Republicans ironically are totally
fine with keeping a bunch of old people fucking fucking forever.

(01:07:06):
Democrats are not, because in fact, I know Republicans call
themselves as they're not. But Democrats are the big tent party,
and so there are more young people coming up and
they're like, yo, where are the people who look like me?
Everyone here is seventy five fucking years old.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yeah, Like, for Republican voters, it's not about it's not
about representation. It's about like we said, it's about racism, Like, hey,
are you racist enough against the people that I don't like? Cool?
You can stick around. It doesn't matter if you're Shuck
Rassley and you're eighty nine years old running for a
six year stated term.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Unfucking believable. So yeah, by the way, the eighteen to
twenty four demographic, if that so holds with your update
that we're talking about, it was three times as high.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
That part is true. They underrepresented the thirty to thirty
four because the original data that came out made it
look like eighteen to twenty five was the largest group. Yes,
that voted, So that wasn't true. But the three time jump,
like the three x jump from twenty twenty one is
still correct.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, So a three x jump for eighteen to twenty
four year olds in terms of turnout, it's yeah, in
terms of turnout is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. That is that's
not for Andrew Cuomo, like it's not, no, it's not
I can't I can't wait to vote for this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Cereal and by the way, like what and I know
we talked about last week, but again I have to
just reiterate what a great endorsement of ranked choice voting
in general, because watching Mom Donnie and Brad Lander campaign together,
like in the late stages of the fucking of the
fucking campaign, was fucking amazing and probably helped Mom Donnie

(01:08:36):
out a lot from yep, you know, people who might
have bought into the anti anti semi rhetoric a little
bit like having having a New York Jew at his
side being like, no vote for me first, but also
this guy is pretty fucking cool too, is obviously like
very helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
So yeah, I just to me again, I said this
last week. You're gonna start to hear calls are like
we gott get rid of Ring Choice book, like from
Democrats and Republicans. Get this ship fuck out of there.
It should be everywhere, it should be nationwide, it should
be and it should be in.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
The residential literally the most democratic way that you can vote.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah, because look, you get you get you get your
fucking you get Jill Scott bullshit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Get you get your cake and eat it too, is
how ranked.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Jill Scott she's the fucking best. She only shows up
every four years. It's awesome. I love her. Oh also
Kamala Harris. Oh look Kamala Harrison, because she's a real candidate,
so so good. But it also gives like we talked
about last week, it also gives third party candidate's a
real chance. It gives them a real fucking chance because.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
It gives them the only chance they would have. I don't,
I don't. I still know that I'd call it a
real chance.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Per say, well, but here's the thing. I mean, here's
the thing. If your person gets knocked out, like if
you're if your person gets knocked out because it just
for some reason just completely underperforms, and you got you
got a You have a third party candidate who's just
doing a little bit better. They said, just just a
little bit better. They get all of that right, they

(01:10:05):
can potentially get all of that momentum and help them
push up and get a real chance. So to me,
it's just this idea of the Democratic Party being afraid
of him. Like you said, the blueprint is there? The
fuck are you mad about? How do we figure this out?
He did?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
He's right there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
The Indian Ugandan guy who eats with his hands. Oh
my god, you figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
But again, it just goes to show you that for
a lot of folks, the goal is actually not making
people's lives better. It's about why I gotta maintain power.
They don't see him as the future. They view him
as a threat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Yeah. No, that's actually a very good point. You're absolutely
right about that. And obviously cuomo Is is a absolute
example of that. And you know, Kirsten Gillibrand and all
these other ones are absolutely you know, in that camp.
And by the way, I think she's up for reelection
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
I believe so that sounds right, but I'm not underpreserved. Sure,
but yeah, I hope. I hope uh primaries the ship
out of her because I hope has a future Uh
yeah New York politics as well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Yeah yeah, good look, get her the fuck out of there.
By the way, Trump and his supporters are like, we're
gonna look into whether or not we can we can
deport Mamdanie. They are fucking terrified of him. They are
terrified of him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Of course, in much the same way they're terrified of
of a That's why they talk about her all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Yeah, and by the way, you should be, but not
for the reasons you think you should be. If you're
on the right, you should be afraid of them because
they provide something that you cannot. True popular you know,
true populism with a plan to get things done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
It's one thing through the actual policy and right through rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Right, it is one thing to be popular, it would
be a populous candidate, because that can be good or
bad depending on who you are, see White House. But
it's another to then have policies that back that shit
up that are actually helpful. They should be afraid of them,
and they should be afraid. They should be afraid of AOC. So, yeah,

(01:12:17):
trying to deport people who just politically disagree with you,
how very Uh what's the term Russian of you? There
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