Two Choices: America's Promise or Oligarch Hellscape | Ep402 - Look Forward - Progressive Political News

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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello, welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
I'm your host, Jay, I'm here with my co host Brad.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I make it stop. Can we please have one week
that doesn't feel like a fucking existential crisis in this administration?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Like, is it fine? Is it? Is it okay to
take a to take a chill pill for one fuck week?
I have to again, I have to imagine their fucking
speed running autocracy because they understand that, like there is
a limited appetite for this ship, and they understand that
they have literally two years to make it happen. That's it, really,

(00:54):
not even not even two years, because it might be
a couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean fuck at this point, man,
But yeah, it really really fucking sucks. And again, like
the whole point is is beating us down with a
malstrom of bullshit and so yeah, like successful, like you're

(01:16):
beating me down with it, and you're beating Jaye down
with it. Jay doesn't even live here and he's beaten
down by this ship. And uh, but it's it fucking sucks,
Like we're not we're not we are not meant to
have to worry about politics in such a front facing fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
No, no, and it's and it's exhausting. And this is
a thing that I think of all of the things
that Joe Biden did that I think will go largely
unappreciated for a while and the people look back like, oh, okay,
that was actually pretty good. Is he gave a sense

(01:57):
of calm in the country, right like he did? You're
talking all about Joe Biden on you want, but you
didn't have to be like, oh, dear God, hang on
to the fucking the fucking.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
What's gonna happen today?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Right, that's not a thing. It's like, oh, okay, that
thing's happening.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Cool, accidental missile alert going off in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It's it's Thursday, or are they are they allowing the
teenagers that hang out with Elon Musk to to have
access to the Department of what the interior, so they
deal with.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
The all the departments. They actually they.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
OpEd them in, some of them surprisingly with massive protests
like Hey, we're gonna go into this department. You're like,
not today, motherfucker. You're like, we'll be back sorry. But yeah,
it's it's deeply exhausting. I will say, I find myself
like I'm fascinated by it, right, like, just because it's like, Yo,

(02:58):
where were you when Germany turned into Now I would
do a Nazi statem fascinated about it if it was
happening over there right right now. Look for me, it
is happening over there, but also to me and my
bank account. Yeah, so like it is fascinating from that
perspective of like, what would it have been like if

(03:18):
you were in you know, late nineteen thirties Germany as
all of this shit was happening right where would you
be would you be like, yeah, let's do it, or
would you be like, hey, this feels like a bad
fucking idea and it turns out we have an answer.
You and I would be hey, this is a bad
fucking idea. And a lot of other people are like
these Hugo boss suits are fucking sharp, Okay, Like that's

(03:42):
who those people are.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I'm glad. I'm happy to we said it last week.
We said it last week. I will continue to say
it every week until it changes and it won't. The
most shocking thing for me is the degree to which
the Republican Congress has just abdicated any, like any responsibility
in government whatsoever. They're just like, yeah, whatever he wants

(04:03):
to do, it's fine, Like this literally violates the Constitution.
It does technically, but yeah, you know, are you really
that upset about it? Like yes, I am actually.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Like that's what was that? Tommy Tummerville said that ship
just like it.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
No, it was like a serious like like Tom Tillis
said that, like like like a a supposedly like serious
uh senator.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Technically violates the Constitution. I'm sorry you did. It's like
you do realize that still means it violated the constitution.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, but who's upset about it? Yeah, there's not there's
not degrees. Yeah, there's not degrees of constitutional violation. Like
it's pretty much a pass fail metric test there. It's
not in the docket. But there's a story they came
out today and I'm gonna stumble over a little bit
like Susan Collins, who is the head of whatever committee
deals with NIH in the Senate, right, and she was

(04:53):
looking over the proposed like cuts that they want to
make in the funding that they want to stop, and
she put this like big report out about like how
like this is very concerning to me, and I don't
think we should do these cuts because it's gonna be
really bad for you know, medical research and other things
that are going on in the country. And this is
really irresponsible. And it's just like Susan Collins, you're the

(05:14):
head of a Senate committee that directly deals with this,
like you can subpoena people to come and testify before
your committee about what's going on and how they're doing
and and the other. Like the other big viral clip
that went live last week is when Democrats on the

(05:35):
Oversight Committee UH put in the House put a motion
forward UH to subpoena Elon Musk and they flipped out
to fight, and Republicans lost their fucking shit and like
gabbled it down and and and the whole fucking nine
yards like like not not not just like you know,
voted it down, but like they freaked the fuck out,

(05:56):
like they're like, no, you can't do this, Like I was,
just like, guys, you are supposed to be a coequal
branch of government, like you like you guys are supposed
to be exercising oversighted like like that's balances.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
What happened? Did your balls drop off? Like what what
is going on?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And and that's that's The thing that will always continue
to be shocking to me is that the degree to
which these motherfuckers are terrified of him so badly, and
terrified of Elon Musk and terrified of their voters. I mean,
and and and it's not like Elon Musk is being
shy about it, Like Elon Musk has literally said to Republicans,

(06:40):
if you publicly oppose anything we're doing, like I'm going
to personally fund a primary challenge against you the next
time you're up for reelection. And they're f and they're
afraid of that, and and and it's it's embarrassing, quite frankly,
like like I don't know about you. If if I
were in Congress and somebody.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Alert or spoil alert whatever you're about to say, you
do know about me, because you know damn well, I
would be the same mindset as yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, but like but like if I were in
Congress and and some motherfucker would be what was threatening
to do that shit to me, my fucking reaction would
be like fucking all right, bet, like you don't mean
to speak out publicly, like I will speak out even
fucking louder, and dare.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's it's the Michael Scott thing like corpor doesn't want
you to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Hmm, I'm gonna do it harder now.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Like every week I've been like, welcome to welcome to
my Senate committee. Elon Musk is a piece of ship,
and here's what I have to say about it. And look,
they might run me out on a rail, that's fine,
but you know what what I have to say is
gonna go down on the fucking record, Like dude, I
will never I will never understand now what I'm about

(07:54):
to say.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I don't mean this from a sexist perspective. I mean
this for I'm being an asshole to assholes perspective. I
don't understand the pacification of these fucking adults who are
unwilling to push back on this fucking loser that is
outside of government just doing whatever he says. Oh, most

(08:19):
he's got so much money.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Fight him?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Fight him?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I'd be like, dude, fuck this guy, Oh you're you're
cutting what is it? I think it's like I want
to say, it was like Arkansas or Alabama. They were
like freaking out because they're like, wait, I'm sorry, medical research,
Like bro, we need that like it affects It affects
those states like overwhelmingly, right because they had like a

(08:43):
ton of medical research that happens in their state and
stuff like that. They're like, no, we need that money.
That's good for us. And they're just like, well, we're
really upset by it. Then fucking say something, This is
not a the government is doing. It's not the government, dude,
it's your party what.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And we've pushed back and we've already like in just
the the the weeks since this administration has come into place.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Three we've already the end of week three.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, we we have already seen the truism. That is
the thing that a bully hates the most is getting
punched in the fucking mouth. There have been plenty of
fucking things that the administration has done that they have
had to back down on because it has been unpopular,
or someone's raised to fucking stink about it, or someone's
pushed back against it. And whenever that happens, they always

(09:35):
have to retreat back because they know they're overstepping. And
that's I mean, that's literally all they are doing right
now is seeing how much they can get away with,
right seeing how much.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
As Micah as Michael would say, and it's the it's
the it's the perfect analogy. They are raptors testing the sense.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
That's it. And if you just if.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
You just don't do anything, it's gonna get through. But
if you push back like they they've like those the
fucking the Dose guys and Musk were scheduled to show
up at I think it was, like I'm gonna say,
it was like the Department. Uh, it wasn't Treasury because
they got in the Treasury. I can't remember exactly which
department it was, but they were They were scheduled to

(10:16):
go there like on Friday of last week and they're
gonna show up and fucking gain access to the shit, right,
And that got leaked or announced or something like that,
and people were just like, oh, we're and they just
showed the fuck up and they were like absolutely not,
we're not. We are not going to allow this. And
people showed up, like regular fucking Joe's showed up and

(10:37):
they basically backed those guys down and they did they
were like nope, and they fucking turned around and they
did not go right, So you can do this right. Unfortunately,
things like USA, i'd got fucking destroyed.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
The Treasury is likely.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Going to be gutted, which is like a real fucking problem.
But you can push back against these people, and you
have to do it in very real way. Look, all
I listened to anytime I listened to sort of the
you know, what I would say is like the professional
you know, professional level political commentary and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It is.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It's wild because you can almost hear the reality of
what they know. They're like, what what they're dealing with,
but they can't say it right, like they know.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's like I'm listening to Madaw and she's like, well,
you know, she's interviewing these people who have been you know,
quote unquote fired by the Trump administration, even though all
their firings are illegal. So they're like, I'm just showing
up at work again, like fuck you, like walk me
out of the building, you bitch type of thing.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
He's like tough old ladies who've been in that job
for like forty years, like, which is awesome, Like they're
just not giving up.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, Ellen Ellen Ellen Weintraub is the head of the FEC. Yes,
Trump fired her, but not.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Through the correct channels, like you have to you have
to reply her. She has to her term has to end,
and then you have to replace her, and you also
have to keep Like there's I forget how many people.
I think there's seven people on the on the board
of the FEC, and she was one of them, and

(12:16):
she was the lead of the board, right, And so
when she got fired, like it dropped out her and
some other ones got it dropped down to four, which
is the minimum you need for a quorum, right. But
if they decide to just like torch the rest of
these people, then the FEC becomes completely irrelevant and who

(12:36):
is there.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
To protect you when it comes to elections?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Can tell you about FEC five, right, And so so
there is a process that he can go through to
do that, and she's like, well, he didn't follow.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
It, so I'm gonna stay. And if he wants to
actually go through the correct process to relieve me of duties,
then he can go ahead and do that. But until
he does, I'm not fucking leading. Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
So they like they shut her access off and everything else,
but like she's like, no, I still work there, So
what happened now? But look, those people, those people are fighting,
and I appreciate that. But like when when I listen
to man, I, when I listen to these other folks talking,
it is very obvious and I and look, you call me,
you can call me a bad person all you want,

(13:17):
and I stay, I'm standing on fucking business, because is
how I feel about one hundred percent. They are, they
are slowly coming to this realization, and they are slowly
letting the American public know that. The realization is there
is no legal recourse for getting these guys out outside
of an election, but in time, in this time before that,

(13:39):
there is no legal recourse to quite literally stop most
of the things that they're doing. Because like the financial freeze, right,
which we'll talk about in a second, and I want
to get into that, like the funding freeze, the federal
funding freeze that came in and I hour funding. We're
freezing all the federal funding right through the country, and
the chaos. Right, judges come in, Hey, you can't fucking
do that. Knock that shit off.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
They got, they got they got sued. Judge. A judge
came in and basically put a restraining order instead. No
like that, by the way, that's a third judge.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Right, three different judges have pushed on this right, but
things are shutting down because they're not getting federal funding.
There is nobody there in the administration in Congress. There's
no one to enforce the pushback from the judiciary, which
means the judiciary has no real power, right, And we're

(14:30):
gonna talk about that, and what you're when you listen
to these shows, I look, I appreciate that they're telling
you the news, and I appreciate they're giving you the
reality on the ground, like that's important, it's super important.
But they're also listened to the ship that they're saying.
Read between the lines. If there is no one there
to do anything to enforce these judiciary rulings, you don't

(14:53):
have a judiciary.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
And if you don't have a.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right but finish your thought, yes, but if you don't
have those things and they're not enforcible, where are you?
And then and this is the this is the reality.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
In which people need to understand is going on. Right, Oh, we're.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Gonna sue, We're gonna great, keep fucking doing. I'm not
saying to not do it, but what I'm telling you
is they are coming to a point. You can hear
it in the reporting that it's like, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And there are there are.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Very few other options. There just are, and so it
and again, none of those answers are pretty they're not.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
They're not. And that's and that's the constitutional crisis is
that it's not the things that it's not the thing
that Trump and Musk and their lackeys are doing. It's
the fact that when the check comes from the other
areas of the Constitution to say, hey, like this other
group says you can't do this, and they just say,

(15:58):
fuck you, We're gonna do it anyway. Right then, what
what did you do? Right? Like? Then, then what's gonna
fucking happen? And and not only like, not only did
these did these t ros come the temporary trainwoorders come
through that say hey, like, you can't pause this funding.
You have to release this funding. It's been legally allocated.
We need to have a fucking hearing about this where

(16:20):
we're gonna then kick it kick it out like crazy.
Not only are they thumbing their nose at that and
they're just ignoring it, but also you have the vice
president basically coming out here on social media saying, hey, uh,
you can't just have a single federal judge, stop what

(16:40):
the executive branch is doing, Like, that's not how our
system works. Actually, no, it literally does. Like that's that's literally,
that's literally what happens. Remember back when the Biden administration
was trying to relieve student debt.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Exactly exactly example, and and they were and they were sued,
and they went before federal judge, and the federal judge says, hey, like,
you know, based on X, Y and Z, like this
is unconstitutional.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You can't do that same situation, except the Biden administration
actually respected the you know, the balance of power between
three co equal branches. The government said, okay, federal judge
said this, we have to go back to the drawing
board and find a legal way to do this. And
because they had to find a legal way to do
it that couldn't be challenged, they couldn't relieve as much

(17:31):
debt as they wanted to. Now you can you can
have qualms with that, and you could say, like that
judge decided it wrong or it's fucked up that they
could do that, and that you know that that's a
valid point to have, and that's a different discussion we
can have. But the fact of the matter is that. That's
how the system is supposed to work. Literally, literally, the
other two branches are supposed to check the third branch.

(17:53):
So you have the executive being checked by the Congress
and the judiciary. You have the judiciary being checked by
the executive of the Congress because they're the ones who
get to decide who gets to sit in the judicial branch.
You have Congress being checked by both the executive and
the judicial. Executive branch can veto stuff that Congress passes,
and the judital branch gets to decide dispute between the

(18:13):
two of them. Like that's that's kind of the delicate
balance that keeps everything in sequence with each other. And
much like in Final Fantasy six, when you move one
of the statues from from the plane to balance, the
fucking world blows apart and and everything goes a ship.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, let me give you a better analogy for people
who are better at understanding good games. Uh So, if
you move your material around in Final but no, I
mean look to your to your point, if you don't
have people doing the checks and balances, what is the

(18:52):
what is the country?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, you have you have you have a you have
a dictatorship. That's it or or totalitarian government or.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Whatever whatever whatever mutocracy.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, that you would have that, you would have bucket
that you would have dump it into. That's what you have.
That's what you have. And again and again like, I don't,
I don't know what the courts can do to force
their orders to be followed.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You can't. You can't, you know, like if the highest
court in the land is unwilling to uphold the most
basic threads of the fucking country, you don't have any laws.
And at a certain point, again I try, I'm trying
not to be an asshole about this, but if you

(19:35):
keep telling people that no laws exist, what do you
think the result of that is? You think people go,
I guess no laws exist. I'm gonna go out and
do all my law abiding things. Or do you think
that maybe someone goes, oh, no laws exist. Hmmm. I

(19:56):
wonder what will happen if I do X, Y and
Z or not just one person, a bunch of people,
or I don't know, a giant military organization. Perhaps you
are setting yourself up for really really awful outcomes by
just saying nothing matters anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm just saying and.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I'm gonna keep banging this drum because when it happens,
I don't want people to be like, oh, I wonder
if they thought that was gonna happen. I definitely thought
that was gonna happen, because there are two outcomes. It's
either really awful and it's exactly what I'm implying, or
people sit by and it becomes horrendous. In that country,
it becomes horrendous. Like we're talking about cutting medical research

(20:44):
why because reasons? Cool? What? Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
You literally literally have you literally have federal grants. You
literally have federal grants that are being denied right now
because they're using specific language that the administration doesn't like.
The Free speech Nation is tamping down on on speech

(21:10):
that they don't like because again it's not about you know,
but like yeah, like of course, like the fucking Article
one in the Constitution exists, like it's super important and
the bill writes the whole night thing, but uh not,
you know, not the speech that we don't Yeah, it's
only for speech that we want to stay, like being
able to call people like the R word and stuff
like that, like we're really excited to do that again.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
But on X all the time dude, I'm telling you
man like again, you're different from me because if I'm
like if I want to see politicians and I type
some shit out on X one, why would I ever?
But if I did that and that guy was like, well,
you're our word, I'd be like, that's cool. Hey, why
don't we do a charity boxing match fucking bare knuckle

(21:52):
me and you and buy a box. And another thing
that I do not like that guy a ship is
They were talking to t Kirson Gillibrand, who's a Democratic
sender Yes and New York.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
They were asking her like, why are why are your
Republican colleagues just like fucking.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Abdicating all the find like like.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Literally abdicating their duties fineless, like not standing up to
these obvious overreaches in executive power. And she's like, honestly,
like a bunch of them are scared because like they're
getting like death threats and ship like that. And that
led to like a bunch of like political like historians,
news like people that are like that have high profiles
on social media, like bitchly I get death threats all

(22:39):
the time, like just just for doing my fucking job,
just just for calling out racist for being racist and
just for calling out like you know, tickets for being thickets,
like like and and and you're senator.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like if you can't take that, deserved to be there, Yeah,
you don't deserve to be there, Like just leave, like,
oh I don't, I don't want to say anything against
to Elon U, I'd be like, yo, meet me into
Meculo ya Like I would just be like, we need
to fight, like for real, and like I'm dead serious, dude,
why are you being nice? Oh? Must be civil? Nah?

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Fuck that?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Fuck that? Hey, elon Musk, here's my address, me and you.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Let's go. Let's fight.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Get get your four K cameras out here, bring your
fucking weird hyper white never been out in the sun
skin to my house and I'm gonna kick the shit
out of you. How about that we can make it
for charity whatever. If I lose, I'll be embarrassed that
I lost to a human uh ziplock bag of mashed potatoes.

(23:40):
And if you lose, you give a billion dollars to
fucking help people. How about that you got the money? Nah? Dude?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Fuck that?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I look, I would dude. They would run me out
of Congress because I'd be like, I want to fight
all of you every day.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
When I showed up to work, like and then again
this is this is this the intelligent luminary who in
response to criticism, why he's getting into government systems that
have access to people's like social security numbers and you know,
financial records and all that kind of shit, and why
it's okay for him to do that. He's like, he's like,

(24:14):
he's like, you know, people are concerned about me like
being in there, like I'm gonna do anything, but like,
aren't you concerned that the government has your social Security number?
That's literally something that he said or something along those lines.
Aren't you concerned that the government has your social Security number?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Where do you think they get created? Bro? Like, where
do they? Like, who is creating these social security numbers?
They're just magically showing up on the blockchain. Your fucking idiots,
shut up? God, God damn it. Like wow, all right,
let's talk about the judiciary. Jesus Christ. Actually before we
do that, I mean we kind of we kind of
did we We kind of just did, Like, I mean,

(24:53):
the they basically that's that's the fucking story, is like, yeah,
the Jiujitsary is pushing back.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yeah, people are doing what they're supposed to be doing.
But when some one says no, I'm not, I'm just
gonna ignore this. Yeah, I look, I get.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
When when when something ends up happening, don't don't watch
TV and watch a bunch of fake journalist skull like
shocked pikachuo face because oh, this is that's just.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Who we are as a country. Well no, it's it's
what we became though, based on the options presented to us.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, and actually I would say history says this is
exactly who we are. I don't know, man, you guys
remember the sixties because ship was wild, like.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, I mean, I mean again, the more the
more this goes along, the more and again, like ironically,
I think Donald Trump, I think Elon must be in
the center of attention in this specific instance, kind of
helps Donald Trump to some degree because as the days
go by, like the more where I think, like Elon
must is gonna catch a blue shell at some point
from somebody.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, yeah, like you are not immune. I'm the richest
man in the world. Okay, you were, Like, I'm just saying,
like anybody can get touched. Man, anybody can get touched.
And it's just again I'm not advocating for anything, but

(26:20):
what I would.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Say is.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
You really should be careful. You really should be careful
in dicking over people. And again you're like, oh, we
got into the treasury and we're doing all this, okay, man,
fuck with people's social security and you see what happens
to you.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and again like allegedly, like nothing's happened yet as
far as like any impact of person like individuals, but
people don't. Nothing has to happen for people to believe
that something could happen like that. That's the other thing
you have.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
To Rumors can just get started and and that shit
will catch like fucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
We we know this because it's literally been the right
wing information ecosystem in this country for the past twenty years.
Like they'll believe any bullshit that's fed.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
To them, absolutely apropos of nothing. They're stealing your social
Security checks, they're they're killing your grandma's they're doing it,
believe it, tell everyone. So yeah, it's just I think
they're they're running there like this article I read by
Robert Reich about like they're eventually going to overplay their hand. Yeah, bro,

(27:25):
it's week three, Like, I feel like you're getting pretty close.
Like you're getting pretty close. You might actually already be
past it. It's just a matter of if the checks
and balances do not exist, does it even matter that
you overplayed your hand? Where is the pushback? And again,
the best part of a a sort of triumpherrent of

(27:47):
like equal branches is that even when the presidency gets
out of hand, you have those other two to be
like yo, yo, yo, fucking relax. That keeps like it's
not just for those three to operate well, it's also
to keep the wolves from the door, because if you
don't do that and somebody oversteps their bounds.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
People are outside.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Motherfucker. Like, that's how you keep if the judiciary is like, hey,
don't do that, and they're like all right, fuck, we
won't do that.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Okay, you push that just keeps it.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Internal, right, You have your fights internally in politics, But
if everybody's on the same playing field, or two branches
are on the same playing field and you just do
whatever the fuck you want and just running rush out
over the third, you are stopping a very fundamental blockade
between the rabble outside and you. Again, don't believe just

(28:40):
because it hasn't happened that it won't happen. That's a
very naive way.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Of looking at politics.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's super and it's also super dangerous. But please proceed
see what happens.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'd rather you didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
But it doesn't seem like that warning is going to
uh to to fall on ears that are even remotely listening.
Let's take a quick break and come on back, all right,
Next up, they are killing your grandma anyway. Next I
just gonna keep saying until it catches most promises to

(29:17):
reinstate Doge staffer linked to racist account.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, so here's so here, here's the fucking chain events here.
So one of his idiot you know boys that he
has brought to the government with him is this guy
named Marco Els, right, and he's someone who so like
one of the big stories that came out about him
first is that, you know, he said that he right

(29:44):
twenty five years old. So one of the one of
the stories that came about in first is that they're like, oh,
this guy like has has right access to the file
systems in the in the Treasury department, when the Treasury
is like, oh no, like all these All the access
we gave Elon Musk and his and his cronies was
read only access, like they can't write. And then it
come to find out that they either did not know

(30:05):
that he would write access or lied about it. One
of the two. One of the two things that's true.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
How about this They lied about it?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, they lied about it. But then the Wall Street Journal,
once they found out about this kid's name, I keep
saying kid, and that's, to Jay's point, is twenty five
year old man. So I'm just getting caught up in
the fact that he's a bunch of nineteen year old
assholes with him. Once they found this dude's name, found
a bunch of old social media posts on his of
his where he talked about just like really racist ship

(30:34):
where he talked about like, oh, like you couldn't pay
me to marry outside of my own race and you know,
normalize in in response to an article about the growing
number of like East Indians in Silicon Valley, responded, normalized
Indian hate was his like response to that shit, right,
so like very blatantly racist stuff. The Wall Street Journal

(30:57):
reached out to him get his thoughts on that, and
then like literally hours later, the administration announced that he
had suddenly resigned from his post. So good example of
pushback working. And then we all moved on, except not
so much because it became a fucking story. So Elon

(31:17):
Musk was first. Elon Musk puts on a fucking poll
on Twitter to see, like, should I bring this guy back?
Even though he you know, he made all these racist posts,
and of course, like the idiots on Twitter said the
same thing. Here's the here's the really stupid response again
bringing back the Vice President of the United States JD Vans.

(31:38):
Here's his quote on this on social media. I obviously
disagree with some of ELS's posts, but I don't think
a stupid social media activity should ruin a kid's life.
We shouldn't reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever,
so I say bring him back? Is I just wanna?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I just I want to quickly ask, is this the
story that you you want to point out an issue
of U?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, and you're and you probably already know where I'm going. Yeah,
I probably already know where I'm going. So, like we,
Jay's talked about many times in the show how when
a black teenager is shot and killed erroneously by either
a police officer or some do gooding like white person
out there right in quotes, yes, very much in quotes.

(32:28):
You know, even a black kid who's like twelve, thirteen
years old to be described as like in very like
madly terms like oh, like you know, young man, that
sort of thing. And yet whenever it's a white person
who's accused of a mass shooting or anything like that,
they're always described as, oh, they're just a kid, like

(32:48):
they don't know any better. It doesn't matter that they're
like eighteen or nineteen years old, like how can we
how can we expect this child to you know, behave
according to scietal norms? And apparently that same grace now
extends to twenty five year old men who made racist
social media posts, not like when they were seventeen, but
like six months ago.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
M I can do better than that. Yeah, check this.
Trump and the media refer to Trump's sons, not Barren,
as Trump's kids when they were doing like oh you know,
they're Trump's kids. No, no, da bits, they're in their.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Fucking forties, fifties in Dog Junior's case, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, Jesus Christ, he is fucking terrible looking, but they
were referred well they you know, they make a lot
of mistakes. You know, they're as Trump's kids, blah blah,
Like they're not kids. They're grown men right now with
children with children like now now weirdly, now, weirdly, Hunter
Biden didn't receive the same No, no.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Well that's just because in their eyes, he's the enemy.
So it's easy to it's easy to just paint him
as who we are, this this cocaine crack addict, you know,
blah he's oh he's an adult, right, and he is right,
and it's totally fine, but they never keep that same
energy when.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
It is to defend there, that's right.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
But yeah, no, this is where the second the mention
of him being twenty five, I knew exactly where you're going, right, Yeah,
that's yeah, but that's one hundred percent accurate.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
How dare we cancel this twenty five year old man
for something he did six months ago? Like everyone like
like like, surely we must give grace to people, give
people the benefit of the doubt. Is they're coming up
in age right now.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Now. If you said, hey, this kid or you know,
if he was you know, an actual kid, Like there
are actual people who are under the age of twenty
five on this little dose team. If you said, Okay,
this person made these comments at like sixteen or fourteen,
and look, I'd be like, he's probably an asshole, so

(34:58):
fuck him. I don't really care if he gets fired.
I just don't give a shit because you're joining a
program that's just destroying the government at wholesale. But if
this was not that job, right, and it was just
like just any other job, and someone's like, oh, this
person tweeted this out when they were fourteen years old
or when they were sixteen years old, but at twenty five,

(35:19):
it would have to be pretty egregious for me to
be like, you got to hold that person to that,
like right, they're a kid, you know, Like that's that's
that's ridiculous. Or like, Okay, they said this, you know,
ten nine, ten years ago, all right, fair enough, Like
if you're offended by it or you're you're holding their
feet to the fire. But what has been their activities
since then?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Because you can say some dumb shit, I said some
dumb shit when I was thirteen or fourteen years old, right,
I said homophobic shit.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
It was hello, it was the fucking nineties.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's like, how could you not?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was just.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Sprinkled into everything, right, But I grew up in that
fucking time. I said some homophobic shit and I deeply
regret it. I'm also I was also thirteen then I'm
forty four now, Like, if someone is holding me to
what I said at thirteen, you're allowed. But it seems
really ridiculous, right, right, But it's a question of what
have I done since I was thirteen?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Now?

Speaker 1 (36:11):
If I'm the same asshole I've always been, you know,
like nothing has changed and I'm like still saying this stuff,
then yeah, you can absolutely point like, look, this guy's
been a dickhead forever. But if my views are the
exact opposite and everything else, and I'm one hundred percent
advocated for a different perspective and called myself out for
those things, that's a bit different, right, Like that, that's

(36:32):
a bit different. But this is six months ago.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You don't get I passed six months ago.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
What the fuck get out of here?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Oh you know he said he said those things when
he was, you know, a mere baby at twenty four. No,
I don't think so. No, I'm a totally different person. Now, really,
did you.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Have a lobotomy, Like, get out of here. You're the
same asshole you were six months ago. I'm definitely the
same asshole I got six months ago. But it's just
that's that's silly. And no, you don't get to pass
at twenty five, certainly now for something you said at
twenty four, perhaps right like no, get out of here.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So this guy's probably coming back, I would imagine, yes,
which is ridiculous. Another person on the team right now.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
There is another aspect of the story, which is, as
you mentioned JD Van's coming out. Oh, I think maybe
you shouldn't be held to that bro he said, normalize.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, Indian, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You fucking wife in your kids. I'd be like, hey, hey,
why don't you send him to my office. I want
to talk with him, And then when he got there,
I'd have him arrested and thrown in a Gitmo the
fuck out, Like what the fuck, dude, If you can't
defend your wife and your own children, you are such
a funny.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
This is the same guy. This is the same guy
that when they were talking you remember that interview that
he durned the campaign when they were talking about her.
I can't remember the question he was asked, but he
but he literally started a sentence.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
With I know she's not white, but died, Yeah, I
told you. I said that to my wife and she
was like if you said something like that, I would
divorce you. Like that's fair, that is one hundred percent
fair thing to do, Like, I know she's not white.
How is that the way to start any sense, any sense?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Like, unless I mean natural way, if you're talking to
right wingers who need that assurance, that validation the conversation.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
You know, unless you're as far as I'm conserned. The
only way I could say that sense is if I
was at if I was in front of like a
bunch of white people are like, does your wife use
a lot of like mayonnaise in her food? And I
was like, well, she's not white, and they'd be like,
all right, god like, and it's an acceptable response.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Anything other than that, that's crazy. The other the other
person on the team that has drawn criticism is a
nineteen year old whose name is Edward Korestine, who was
it was just a big balls kid. I thought, I
thought big balls of somebody else, Okay, this is your
big balls. So he had an internship at a cybersecurity

(39:04):
company a couple of years ago, where they fired him
for leaking internal information.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Irrelevant information rivals like the Russian government.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
So that so that's, you know, that's suboptimal.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
When when suboptimal he has access to to all of
the country's was sensitive pavement information. What are we doing?
By the way, it's not like these guys are being
given fast access to the FAA system. We've had three

(39:39):
plane crashes in ten days. No, No, three actual crashes.
I think it's ok. But five total like incidents which
are like three crashes and then like a plane's wings
slice through another plane on the tarmac, and then there
was a fire on a plane. So I think that's
the total five. But they want to handle the safety

(40:03):
of and all that of the FAA to the guy
with the user name big Balls. Okay, a broccolihaired teenager,
a boy, he's a boy.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Uh is going to be handling that?

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Meanwhile the Tesla cyber truck is falling apart on the road.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
But these are the guys who they're going to handling
airline safety. The best, okay, the best. The best thing
I ever saw said about Elon Musk was a couple
of years ago when he first bought Twitter and started
like tweeting about talking about like software stuff and coding

(40:46):
stuff within Twitter. And I can't remember who said it,
but I see it pop up all the time, uh
visa the Musks expertise, And basically it's it's kind of
thing where it's like, you know, Elon Musk said he
was a genius when it comes to cars, like like
designing electric vehicles, and I don't know anything about electric vehicles,
so I didn't, you know, I assumed that he was,

(41:09):
you know, a genius about this stuff. And then he
said he was a genius about building rockets, and I
don't know anything about building rockets, so I assume that
he was a genius about this stuff. Then he said
he was a genius.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
About software, and I happen to know a lot about software.
And I'll tell you, based on what Elon mus says
about software, I wouldn't ride in his cars or rockets,
because that dude doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
No he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
He doesn't.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
He like he is. He is a quintessential example of
like somebody made this comment about him. It's just sort
of piggyback on what you're saying, which was if Elon
Musk was like this age now in the nineteen eighties,

(41:50):
he would have just been a playboy. Right, he would
have been like the classic playboy, like, oh, my parents
are rich, grew up, fucking dad has an emerald mind,
like I's got money coming out in my ass.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Right, he's just been playing.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Yeah, a fucking socialite of uh, a drain on society,
a Paris Hilton type if you will, right, and but
like with less charisma, stop being poor guys, And that's
what he would have been, right, he would have been.
He would have had to pay women to sleep with him, uh,

(42:25):
like he always does. But like he would driven fast
cards and probably done a little bit of charity work.
People like that guy seems cool or whatever, like, oh,
did he have a point about something? I don't give
a show shot of right, Like that would have been
his entire life. But he grew up in an era
of tech, and so because he's kind of a tech
dork and he's like he likes it, that's where he
dumped all of his money and interest into. So he

(42:46):
bought his way into PayPal. He bought his way into Tesla.
You know he has SpaceX. He's not actually built for
these things. He just likes the cool tech shit. And
so instead of like doing what you should do when
you have a lot of money and no charisma or resources,
just go get late and leave the rest of society

(43:06):
to normal people, he's involved himself into this ship.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
And now we have to deal with them for now.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
So yep, blueshell the bourgeoisie as a which I thought
was pretty good. Yeah, so, uh, Senior, big balls, he's
leaking information.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's what he's known for doing.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That's good. Probably a good idea that the nuclear codes
and all that other shit they have access to.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Now, that's great. I will tell you. It is a
good thing that the actual nuclear system a works differently
than people assume it does. Like I really do think
most Americans think there's just a big red button that
you push in the fucking missile get slums like it's
normal complex.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
No, No, it's two red buttons, two red bunds the same time.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Also, also weirdly is more like old Bye where you
have to turn the keys like simultaneously. Yeah. Of course,
also possible that no one knows what it does. Also Weirdly,
it kind of also helps us that our nuclear systems
are like wildly outdated right now. It's actually very difficult

(44:21):
to hack into because they're so actually far behind, Like
like I read this about the Department of Energy until
I believe twenty nineteen, I think was the date that
I saw literally the nuclear launch system still used eight
and a half inch floppy discs to until when twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, best elected in the nashe bro that isn't that
is an analog system.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
We gotta go to the building.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
There's no act.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
But I mean, in fairness, those things should not be
updated often. They need to be very secured and oh yeah,
very boring and just work like they I mean, like
I knew a guy who worked for the IRS. This
is maybe twenty years ago, and I remember him saying, like,
you have no idea how unbelievably dated the IRS systems

(45:22):
are like just working there right, Like they don't use
they're not using like Windows XP at the time like that,
Hell no, dude, Like they are on they were like
they were a lot of their work stations were like
windows in T workstations because they do the thing they
needed to do and that's it. So it's like, oh,
we want to do this like those big upgrades where

(45:44):
you see like they're spending all this money in IRS. Dude,
that is to pull them out of fucking eighteen forty
five into nineteen forty five. Right, They're always going to
be far behind. And that's on purpose, right, it is
to keep it antiquated for shit, exactly like that. But
these dummies things, you gotta be on the fucking bleeding edge, bro. Yeah,
but on those things you kind of don't want to

(46:06):
be because on the bleeding edge there are a lot
more variables that pop up. You can't just have a
bunch of IRS machines updating on the internet. Are you
out of your fucking mind? No. They probably go around
with like fucking eight and a half inch floppy disc
Like all right, Brenda, you readdy, it's gonna take forty
five minutes to do this shit, right, Like they kind

(46:27):
of have to to keep like with all the new Like, yes,
all the new fancy shit is really cool and nancy,
but it also comes with more issues. It just does.
That's why cars can last forever back in the day,
and now they last for about nine minutes.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Right, there's a reason. Oh not just not just cars,
all all appliances, like all all anything.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, I mean there's also a planned obsolescence and stuff
like that, of course. But yeah, they they're the more
the more complexit system, the more it will fail and
the and the quicker it will likely fail too. Like
it's it's just reality. That's why you're you're shitty. Modern
TV is on top of that old TV that's you know,
like that's been you know, there forever, right, Like, oh,

(47:11):
if you if you just replace the tube, it'll work, Yeah,
it probably will. Your grandmother just didn't want to do it.
So now it's a big credenza. But you can't get Netflix,
but it'll work, all right. Next up, can you talk
about this in this n c NEC.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Well, well there's two so there's two things. So so
I'm gonna call this segment watch what they Do, where
we're just gonna briefly talk about some things that they've
actually done in the trouble administration.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
You know, let's take a quick break. I'm sorry, let's
take a quick break, and then we'n come right back
to the story. All right, go for it.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
So the first thing that happened is the Biden administration,
UH put a program in place to basically get EV
chargers across the country. Five billion dollar program by the
federal government that was supposed to take couple of years
just to get EV chargers more present, more present across
the country, UH, to make ED cards more viable across

(48:13):
the country. Well, guess what, the fucking Trump administration has
killed that program essentially, yep, because you know, even though
weirdly it benefits you know, their main man, who they
really like a lot, you know, they don't want to
They they weirdly don't want to extend the use of
EV's because you know, we want to be burning that
that oil as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I'm very curious not to try to derail this, but
I'm very curious as to what.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
His long game is.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Like I don't know if you did you listen to
like on Madow on like Friday. She listed off where
the sales of Tesla are across Europe.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, I heard that. I heard that.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Dude. It's like they're down fifty, Like it was consistently
at least forty in all of the major markets across Europe.
What the fuck are you doing right, Like, so I
have to wonder what's the mo here, Like, do you
care if Tesla survives or not?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Because you know you got you got your hand in
both pots here. So it's like, cool they killed the
EV thing. Are you cool with that or not cool
with that? Like, it's just it's just curious to me.
I don't know what the right is.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Wouldn't surprise me if that program somehow came back but
only that they were only building like Tesla chargers. Wouldn't
that be some shit if that was If that was
the case, so we'll see. The bigger concern is that
the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which is
a child safety nonprofit NGO basically non governmental organization, removed

(49:55):
publications from their website anything to mention queer or transgender kids. Uh,
and they were and they did that under threat from
the federal government saying if you don't do this, we
will cut your funding essentially, so like again, this is
literally an organization whose sole purpose who solely exists to

(50:21):
help find missing kids, kids that are exploited, like kids
that are sex trafficked for example, which.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Which happens a lot for lgbt.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Q kids by the way, Yeah, kid kids with suicidal tendencies,
which happens a lot for trans kids specifically, and literally,
like they they had a complete overview on their site
that specifically mentioned homeless kids who were kicked out of
their homes because their parents would not accept right like

(50:59):
they're their their sex orientation or gender identity. And they
had to do this because literally they receive seventy five
percent a little more than that of their funding from
the federal government. So like it was either do this

(51:19):
or or cease existence. Probably again like like like this
this administration has made crystal clear they do not give
a shit.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
But I was okay, but I was told that Republicans
really cared about missing kids and potentially exploited children. There
was a movie about this. It was starring Jesus James
cavizl right, Like he did a whole ass movie about
how like they go down on the border and they
fucking save these kids and like that story didn't really

(51:55):
happen and all this other shit, Like, but I was
told that these guys really give a fuck about this.
It's really weird that when it came time for Biden
to be president, they did unbelievable amounts of work in
stopping trafficking of kids and all this other stuff and
going after these guys. And then it's amazing how the

(52:18):
people who say that they care about this so much
will take funding away from these people to help kids.
And no one, no one on the Republicans side goes
that seems curious. No one puts two and two together,
that these guys maybe don't actually give a fuck about
children at all.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Well, I like, well, that that's part one and and
part two is it just goes to show you the
kids that they deem worth caring about and the kids
that are not worth caring about. They could, trust me,
like Republicans by and large could not give a shit
what happens to trans kids or queer kids. Oh really

(52:57):
any or really any kid that's just not white and
straight basically yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Of course. So yeah, I mean I guess, I guess.
My My issue is no one ever points out, no
one ever points out this sort of the hypocrisy of it, all, right, and.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Well we we we do, but no one on their
side does, or they are they just float by it like.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I mean, I mean, right, I mean Republicans, Yeah, no,
of course, like it's just it's just curious that this
is such a thing that people care. Oh, we gotta
stop traffick or kids, we gotta we gotta do we
gotta do this and do it. Okay, cool?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Why are you cool with this? Why are you cool
with this?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Well, I mean there's probably corrupt money that's being used
for this. Is this a real agency, Like they'll come
up with a million and other reasons. Stop saying you can,
because you don't.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
And the thing that the thing that continues and and again,
I feel like I say this every week now, but
it's true. The thing that really bugs me about it
the most is that again, like here you are the
most powerful people in the country using your power to
oppress literally the most vulnerable people because.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
You're small, because you're small, right, like you're you're a
small person fundamentally because nobody who actually is trying to
help anybody would use all of that power to kick
down some trans kits for what?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
For what?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Also, I never under again, this is the thing I
will fundamentally never understand. Do you got one hundred billion
dollars in your wallet? Why the fuck are you worried
about what little people are doing? Walking around on earth.
Who cares? Go on.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I love how you keep. I love how you just
keep naturally without thinking about it, reverting back to the
musk when this is just when this is actually the
Trump piece of it.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
But it's all, but it's all I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
These are this is I'm just saying. It's it's interesting
how you even you have already kind of relegated Trump
to being almost like a bit player. He has.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
He's becoming a deal. Yeah, I mean it's his own doing.
I think it's gonna come a time where those two
bumpheads because you can't have to micro dickt individuals with
egos that big to replace their lack.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Of penis size.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Uh, you can't have those two beings in the same
room and it go well, like it just it cannot happen. Eventually,
Trump's gonna be like, bitch, I'm the president. Like, well,
I mean you saw that time. Yeah, I was just
gonna say that time magazine cover.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
And so and someone someone asked him about that, and
he tried and Trump tried to play it off a
little bit. But you know, if you wanted to read
into the body language, uh, maybe he was not to
please with that up. It's like, will someone rid me
of this meddlesome ceo? Right, no, not me, and and

(56:07):
and and this isn't on the docket, but it just
came up, so I figured we was talking about it. Uh, basically,
they have effectively shut down the CFPB, this Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau. Russell Vote put out a memo internal memo
to them today being like, hey, whatever you're working on, stop,
and the White House has already signaled that basically like hey,
you know those overgraph fees that the Biden administration protected

(56:29):
consumers from, Uh, we're gonna we're just gonna release that.
And and and in response, this must tweeted out something
today like oh my god, like can like the CFPB
uses like seven hundred and seventy million dollars, Like can
you believe this? Like this is ridiculous. And the reply
to him was like, yeah, they saved consumers twenty one

(56:50):
billion dollars last year, so I.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Don't care they use seven Yeah, I don't care that
it's been seven billion for twenty one billion.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, I know if you've heard of this, musk, but
math is hard. Yeah, that's like like like I know
he doesn't understand. Uh, Like financial stuff. Real good. Uh,
but that's a pretty good r o I, as they
would say in the corporate world.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
So look at you, brid you, here's a here's a
here's a let me drop out a couple of corporate
terms on you get out. So yeah, it's it's it's
he doesn't know what he's he's just cutting things and
he's trying to push people into this idea of like, look,

(57:35):
they're spending money, but they're spending money to help.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
That's what the government does. Yeah, like like you want
them to like like again, we we and we, you
and I have talked about this a million times. Poor
in our listeners understand it's like you want the government
to spend money, you just want them to spend it
effectively like that, like you don't want them to waste
money on stupid things. But like money that literally puts
money back into the pockets of American people. Is money

(57:58):
well spent, Like that's what you want to use money for.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
That's It's it's almost as if you know, people make good,
good choices or they make terrible choices, but choices still
get made. Like it doesn't like money is going to
get spent. You can either use that to bomb the
shit out of people in other countries, or hey, why
don't we say, why don't we use that money to

(58:21):
save American's twenty one billion dollars? Yeah, it's like you
could pick one.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
And again, seven hundred andy million dollars is in the
grand scheme of things in the federal government is nothing like.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I would A good question that was, like, hey, elon Musk,
how much was the boat you own? Just curious since
it says it was seven hundred million dollars is a
lot of money. How much would you spend on your
boat your yacht, right or super yacht or whatever the fuck?
I'm sure he has right.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Right, And again that and that's the problem with him,
is that he is he is praying on the stupidity
of the people who follow him online because like these
people like will view these like things that he puts
out in a vacuum without understanding the broader context.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
And that is exactly the point, right, that's exactly the point. Oh,
that's so much money, is it though? Because federal agency
spending seven hundred million dollars, that's a pretty low amount,
by the way, like those people, and it makes sense
that the computer or Consumer Financial Protection BURO would be
really good at debt because it's their whole job is

(59:29):
to be quite tight with a dollar and pull pull
money back as they need to. But yeah, seven hundred
million dollars, that's a that's damn good. That's the kind
of government efficiency I would like to see, right like,
But that's not what we're doing. We're just fucking slashing shit.
And by the way, what's happening with all that money
that you get back?

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Where's it going?

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Because at the end of the year, you're slashing all
this money, so surely you should have paid down the debt, right.
I bet they don't, And I bet that money is
like a fucking fugaisey. It's gone. It's like it does
not exist by the end of the year. That's what
I want people to ask. At the end of the year, Cool,
you cut all the ship, where's all the savings?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Where's it? It's good to go to the rich people
that get tax breaks from the plan that gets re
upped probably sometime this summer. That's where it's gonna go. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Hey, there's a story we forgot to put on the docket.
Speaking of things that are important, we're gonna own Gaza.
Isn't that awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Bro? Oh yeah, that's right. We probably should have put
that on there. Yeah again and again, Like I made
the point before, like I'm really trying hard to focus
on things that are actually happening and not just not
things that Grandpa says when he's sundowning, you know, flying
home from the super Bowl, you know, like that, like
that kind of shit. By the way, speaking to waste,

(01:00:56):
it cost US taxpayers four million bucks that Trump could
go to the Super Bowl three quarters basically just fy I,
we're talking, we're talking about wasting money.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Uh no, disagree, disagree? Disagree? Uh money well spent. Glad
he was rooting for Kansas City to get their round son.
And as you know, if you listen to the TMP network,
we have always been longtime supporters of Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
So especially absolutely powerful blacknesses. We're like fuck yeah, so
so Trump. So Trump's really ratcheting up the Gaza rhetoric,
isn't he.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah. So he came out and said in a joint
press conference with Benjamin Yahoo that they are going to
turn over Gaza to the United States and the United
States will own Gaza, which is a wild thing to say.
Out loud. There is nothing that is more in line

(01:01:57):
with the idea of no more wars than to take
a giant barrel of gasoline, pour it onto the Middle
East and say that the United States now owns the
Holy Land and see what happens. I don't know, Brad,
nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, and and and the people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Are fucking planes into buildings again, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
You never sink he's talking. He's talking about this ship
like he's a real estate developer, because that's what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Like he's literally sitting there talking about like we're gonna
own it and we're gonna develop it back up and
then it'll become like this world like like like like
where people all around the world can come and move
there and live there and ship like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
And then like literally he was asked today like I
don't know if you saw this, but like he did
one of his like fucking I'm sitting at my desk
given a press conference kind of fucking deals. And they
asked him today like, well, like, you know, are you
gonna let gazins return to the region. Who's like, no, no,
they won't have any rights to return.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
That's like their whole thing it's literally their whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
That's their whole thing. Again, if you voted for this
guy under the auspices of no more wars, fixing the
Middle East, I mean, it's weird that the Middle East
hasn't already been fixed. Jared was in charge of it
for four years. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Right well, we'll speak and and and that's not all
because you missed that press conference earlier today, That's not all. Jay.
He basically also said that they Gaza has until Saturday
to return all the hostages, make sure all the hospital
return or like all hell can just break loose for
all he for all he's concerned in that region. Now, again,

(01:03:49):
a lot of this stuff is just Trump saying stuff
right like like and until you see actual firm policy plan,
I'm not saying ignore it, but I'm what I am
gonna say is, don't tilt the windmills. However, it's a
serious fucking problem that the President of the United States

(01:04:09):
is just shooting from the hip as you do on
such wildly inflammatory foreign policy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Words have meaning, they have real meaning, right like they do,
and words have effect. You can't go out there and
be like, we're gonna own Godza baby. He don't worry.
Grandpa's sundown and we're gonna own it. Yeah, they're gonna
give it to us again. It's like the domestic shit

(01:04:46):
when you say, hey, no rules exist, no lungsist, nobody
can stop me and do whatever the fuck I want.
Fucking accordion weave talk right. When you do that, people
hear it, like you're not just talking into the mirror.
People hear and they go, well, wait, what the fuck
you going on TV and saying we're gonna own Gaza

(01:05:07):
and these people are not gonna have a right to return.
Who do you think is listening? Dude? You think Hamas
is not listening. You think Iran is not listening. You
think Hesibal is not listening. You think the fucking Taliban,
all of these people, I'll kida all of these You
think none of them are listening right now. And they
know that the United States is in chaos right now,

(01:05:29):
and they know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
That are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
The sort of the the you know, like the D
and I. It is kind of a shad fucking person, right,
or potentially a shady fucking person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
They they moved her ad culture. She's she's she's probably
getting confirmed almost assuredly.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
So Meanwhile, Cash Purtel was in a movie, uh shitting
on the FBI, the history of the FBI. He's to
be ahead of the FBI. Good, great, good. And we're
also shutting down departments that deal with sort of foreign adversaries,

(01:06:12):
like dealing with their interference and things like that, and
lessening our role in that regard, all while saying we're
gonna own Gaza, and Gaza is gonna be developed and
there's no right to return. People can hear you. You're
not just talking into a mirror, Grandpa. People can hear you,

(01:06:35):
and whether or not it becomes true, it's true now
to them. It's true now to them, and that's it.
That's enough. That's why you don't see a president go hey,
well we just fucking shoot at the hip and say shit,
you can't because you're worst, especially as the American president.
You're not the president of fucking Zimbabwe with no international power.
You're the most powerful person on a planet. People are

(01:06:58):
listening to you. If you don't follow through eight, doesn't
fucking even matter, because you could spark off shit before
it even comes into fruition, right like you can just oh,
I'm gonna do this thing. People are all right, fucking
let's go. They're not waiting for you to do it.
They don't have to wait for you to do it,
because at that point, who gives a fuck you said it.

(01:07:22):
I am terrified for the United States, I really am.
I'm terrified for the fucking entire world, but I am
terrified for the United States that they will, and I
will say this quite honestly, that you are going to
get another nine to eleven fucking with this guy. You will.
You cannot do shit like this and expect no blowback.
You come into office in your life, here's more fucking

(01:07:44):
bombs to drop on the people of Gaza.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Now, now we own it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
We are a crusading force coming.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
In, very very intentional word choice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, exactly. You got Pete heg sads with all his tattooes.
What do you think Why do you think they choose
these guys? It ain't happenstance. What do you think happens
when people hear this ship? We talk about it all
the time. You cannot bomb people until they love you.
It doesn't work. That is like we're gonna have a
war on fucking jealousy. It doesn't work, right, War and

(01:08:17):
terrorism does not work. You have to fundamentally change the
material conditions for those people to get them to move
on something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Oh oh, he's already got to figure it out. Jordan
and Egypt is gonna just take them all in. Remember
he said that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
And even if they do, you're still telling people like,
I don't know if people realize this, this is a
religious base situation, You're still telling those people they do
not have a right to return. It's literally their whole
fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Forget, forget the religious aspect. You're literally telling people, Hey,
you're home, get the fuck out. You've lived You've lived
here for generations. Don't care why because we said so thou.
Think about what you do if someone told you. Think
about if someone if someone just like upbraded you from
your community for like like something especially like a foreign

(01:09:08):
of power body right right comes in and says, hey,
like you who have been living here all your life
on the street, like, yeah, I love the street, I
love this fucking the town has been part of cool,
Get the fuck out. What the fuck? Yeah you probably
you probably fight too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Again, the potential damage that you're doing not just to Gaza,
but to the United States, And it's citizens who have
nothing to do with this ship. Yeah, I do, Like
I do not want this to happen, but I would
sadly not be surprised. I really wouldn't be, dude, I

(01:09:45):
really I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
But again, like like to your point, if something serious,
more serious than what we just witnessed for the last
year and a half, but like if something like if
a regional conflict popped off, like let's say Iran's like
fuck this, like we're not dealing with this guy again,
Like let's fucking spark the ship off and it becomes

(01:10:08):
like an actual war in the Middle East. You think
the US isn't gonna get dragged into that to help
to help their their boy Israel. Well, if we own
but he.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Has the thing, if we own Gaza before we get.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
To that point, before we get to that, it's gonna
take time to get to that point. It's it's like
like like you think they're just gonna they're gonna allow
Israel to seed that portion. And speaking of which, like
if you're the reporters that were at that fucking event
when he said that, how the fuck aren't you turn
into yahoud be like are you cool with this? Right?
Like like like like you literally have been trying to

(01:10:44):
capture that territory for yourself, right and building settlements there
for yourself, and you're just gonna be cool with the US,
like mosing on in and being like, now we got it,
don't worry about it, tires, Now we'll take care of it.
How How did that question not get asked in it? Yeah?
It is my is my fucking one of the things

(01:11:07):
that I've been gassed about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
And by the way he said that, he actually didn't
say he kind of clarified.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
In a weird way.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I don't know, It'll take some time to fucking figure
it out. He said that he will own Gaza, not
the United States, which I thought was a curious way
of speaking. And I know it is very easy to go, ah, well,
Grandpa is fucking dumb, you know, But there's precedent for that,

(01:11:40):
and I didn't realize this. So like back in the
like eighteen hundreds, during the worst sort of atrocities in
the Congo, when it was owned by when it was
run by Belgium, it wasn't owned by Belgium. It was
owned by King Leopold, like directly to the point where
other people came in from other countries were like, you

(01:12:02):
gotta knock off the atrocities because like, you are directly
responsible for this. But it was owned by him, not
by the country of Belgium that became, that came later,
but owned by him. So there is not an unprecedented
situation that the leader of a country is given this
property or given this land and that he owns it.

(01:12:27):
Whatever the fuck that looks like. And if he's talking
about as a real estate guy, does it sound that
crazy that he would be the one who owned it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Doesn't sound that crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Doesn't sound that crazy that that land would be owned
and operated by the Trump work doesn't sound that crazy,
back backed by the military might of the United States.
It doesn't sound like crazy. Again, what are we supposed
to do in this situation?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah? What are you supposed to do? More to come.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Okay, that's the end of the free portion for this
week's episode of Look Forward.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
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