We Won't Forget About Trump and Epstein (Texas Flooding, Epstein Client List, FEMA) | Ep419 - Look Forward - Progressive Political News

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Welcome to a brand new episode of Look Forward.
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(01:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:34):
All right, So there you go. You can listen to
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of a long standing Brad manifesto.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
When I would eventually snap and lose my mind. You'll
be able to crib all the posts together to find
the reason behind.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
And the first and the first one has a cat
as the image like this guy's going nowhere fast. We
already know, all right, so welcome back. Look, things are
running out a clip. This week is interesting. This week
feels like one of those Like last week was a

(02:15):
lot of us being incredibly disturbed and frustrated at the
system in which we live in, especially the idea of
having like UFC fights at the White House that really,
I think broke my brain for a couple of days,
but especially about the big beautiful bill. This week theme
feels like the White House pulling out a gun and

(02:40):
turning it on themselves, shooting themselves in the chest for
no reason. But I feel like we all who have
been paying attention kind of knew this was coming, So
that feels like the sort of meme and actually not
even just the White House, I would say conservatives in general.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
How yeah, because this is all selftory we're going to
talk about, has not, you know, not not to say
that it could have been prevented entirely, but it might
have been a lot better had different decisions been made
over the last several years in certain areas of a
certain state. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So yeah, I think a lot of this is conservative
self inflicted gunshot wounds politically, so to speak, which unfortunately
has cost people lives. So the big story this week,
the Texas floods death toll rises to one hundred and twenty.
I think it's actually above that now as rescue operations

(03:37):
start to shift to recovery phase. So at least one
hundred and seventy three people remain missing as hope for
funding survivors dwindles. Look, these floods, I believe are in
mostly Kerr County in Texas, are really fucking scary, right,
Like some of the like the Guadalupe River I think

(03:57):
is where the majority of this water is coming from,
if not all of it. It like it raised by
like something like thirty two feet or some shit like that.
Like relatively fast. So when people think like we live
in cities, right, so like the idea, I mean, we
have some flooding here where I live. That's mostly just
an infrastructure thing, welcome to where I am. But it's

(04:21):
not like it comes on like in heavy rainstorms. But
we don't see this kind of like crazy fast flooding
generally unless it's like a Katrina type of thing, which
is again very rare, but mostly sort of in rural areas,
where like areas will just it's like, hey, everything is cool,
they'll get some rain and then boom, all of a

(04:42):
sudden the.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Right typically typically areas that are very like hilly and
stuff like that, because you know, the train captures the
water and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
So right, and so like from otter of perspective, this
is not a thing like just between Brad and I,
this is not a thing that we're like, oh yeah,
fucking massive floodings. Like who hasn't grown up with this, right,
So we don't have any sort of first hand living
experience with us. But these people in this county are
really suffering. I mean, look, I know the argument is

(05:10):
going to be, well, fucking Texas, fucking red state, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But first and foremost, like from a huge humanitarian perspective,
this is fucked up because like little kids died by
the way because of this shit.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah, thirty six children dead as of as of what
we know now. And again, as Jay mentioned, there's SILL
one hundred and seventy three people that are missing, right,
so you know, I expect more deaths to be reported.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, And look, look, these sort of you know, natural
sort of climate change whether disasters and what have you,
are not going to go away. They're going to get worse.
And I'm hoping that moments like this, and I say
that with you know, the most reservation in my voice,

(05:57):
I'm hoping that things like this will teach people people
that this stuff is very real. However you think it
is happening because of the gaze or because of climate
change or whatever you're reasoning for these floods and natural
disasters happening, just realize that they're happening, and they're going
to get perpetually worse and more frequent. So I'm hoping

(06:19):
that people will take heed to that about like early
warning systems and things like that. More on that later,
to actually help people right, So all of that being
said is really sad. I saw the president of Mexico
was like, they're sending people and stuff like that, like
people are trying to help, right, They're really really trying
to help. Her statement, by the way, was fucking awesome.

(06:41):
I listened to that this morning. I thought it was
really dope. She was like they're basically saying, oh, why
are you doing that? You know, texas a red state
and they say like terrible things about Mexico, and she
was just like, Mexico is doing things that are humanitarian like,
and like we're not in the business of not helping
people because of like basically some stupid politics, Like.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah, that's that's something Republicans do, right, not get off
this is that's dumb, right, Come on, people are suffering, which,
by the way, should be our response to people in
other countries if we can.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Help too, just just as an aside, we used to
do that kind of thing. So let's talk about the
politics of this, which is has become the bigger story
in a lot of ways. So there's two aspects of this, right.
So there were there were massive cuts to Noah. The
n o a A was a national Oceanic.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Well, so so just to just to make sure that
we're not off on the wrong foot. So so the
recent budget that passed has does have a lot of
cuts to the to the National uh TO no I,
I don't remember what the acronym stands for, Butceanic in
Atmospheric Administration COOL, the organization that oversees the National Weather Service,
though is important here. Now those caught don't go to

(08:00):
effect until sometime in twenty twenty six. So the budget
bill that was just pass and signed is not It
has nothing to do with this specific situation here. So
let's so if you hear that anywhere, that's bullshit. Don't
don't pay that any heat. However, the DOGE cuts to

(08:21):
the National Weather Surface earlier this year very much might
might certainly have contributed. And here's the thing, as we
talk about, you know what didner didn't happen obviously, Like
a flash flood is an active nature. You can't you know,
you can't stop that from happening, no matter how prepared
you are. Like, if it's going to happen, it's going
to happen. What you can do is make sure that

(08:46):
warning systems are in place and staffed enough to make
sure that as the flood is being recognized, like oh shit,
this is happening, that it's being recognized quickly, and the
information is getting to the people that will be affected
for the worst happens. That's that's kind of the government's role.
And then obviously, you know afterwards to help with you know,
get the community, uh you know, back up on their

(09:08):
feet and assistant clean up efforts and and stuff like
that as well. Like that's that's the government role here, Like,
no one, no one is going to sit here and
suggested like, oh, Republicans cause the flood to happen, Like no,
Like that's obviously, no.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's what Republicans are saying.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Democrats did, Republicans would say, but it's but it's not
what happened here. So there were a couple of National
Weather Service Pope positions in Pencil and San Antonio, San Antonio,
including two media or ologist positions that have been unfilled
since the DOGE cuts happened, which again, like potentially delayed

(09:48):
the response to this even though we don't will never
know by how much, and we'll never know how many
lives can even say, but we do know that it
had an impact in some way, shape or form, according
according to people that work there.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
So, so how it works from my understanding is this
what do they call them a warning coordination meteorologists. Right,
So that position at noah UH works on the federal
On the federal level, they coordinate with local people. In

(10:22):
this particular, the like the Austin San Antonio office, they
coordinate with that office to be like, hey, we're seeing
this thing because we got like, I don't know, Doppler
fucking five thousand. You guys only have like three thousand
because you can't quite afford it. We're like, we're the
big boys, and so we're seeing this this other shit
that we have access to that you don't necessarily have

(10:42):
access to. Here's this information, the storm is, the storm
is coming. You need to prepare because of X y
Z reasons, right, the federal government taking all of its
federal dollars and all of its federal power and bequeathing
this information to the local people and being like, get
your fucking house in order so that you can prepare
for Because this warning Coordination Meteorologists position, like Brad talked about,

(11:06):
was not filled because of the DOGE cuts. There was
no intermediary between the federal government and the local people
in the Austin San Antonio area to relay that information.
I guess being a meteorologist is woke. So they got
rid of this position. Now, the new pick to head,

(11:30):
Noah ironically says he is going his top priority is
to fill those positions. It's like, cool, they should have
never been cut, right like, and we'll dig more into
this because there's quite a bit more here. But you
have to realize this is the type of shit when

(11:50):
they're like, just cut government funding. He's got to cut it.
Fuck the federal government. You rely on the federal government
way more than you realize. The federal government isn't a boogeyman.
The federal government is supposed like, that's the exact type
of job the federal government should be doing. We have
connections into NASA and all these major satellites and stuff

(12:12):
like that. We have top notch people. We use those
people to spread out information across the states. Yeah, it
makes sense. Why cut that position because the people who
are doing the cuts and doge don't know what the
government actually does that. That's that's what it tells me.
Because if i'm if I'm going down the list of
employees and someone goes, this person is a warning coordinator meteorologist.

(12:36):
I'm like, the fuck does that person do? Oh they
talk to the states to let them know about wanting
you don't fire that guy, Like that seems like a
pretty important job.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, but that but that's but that's a job that
feeds into like people are gonna tell you like, oh,
this job is important because of climate change. Oh climate change,
you said the magic word, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
So that's one aspect of the uh, you know, cutting
your cutting your nose off to spite your face kind
of situation that we're going to see more and more
of across this episode and over this very specific topic.
So the doge cuts, like Brad said, the doge cuts
are much more directly responsible potentially, well, I would argue

(13:14):
notiting potentially are directly responsible for some of the pisspoor
reaction times that the people in Texas were able to deliver.
I'm not just making that up. Quite literally, the people
in Texas politicians are like, we did not get warnings
from the federal government about this of them, which we
normally do, and it's like, yeah, because there was nobody

(13:37):
there to give you the warnings.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
So the other the other thing that's come up around
this is two instances where this county, knowing that they
were in a floodplain that's that's prone to flooding, had
two opportunities to get like early warning systems upgraded in

(14:00):
the county and balked on it for varying reasons. So
the first instance was back in twenty sixteen where they
actually requested from FEMA a grant to get about a
million dollars worth of flood warning upgrades and things that
nature as well, like outdoor sirens and gauge markers and

(14:22):
detection systems and stuff like that. Right, the Texas Division
of Emergency Management, which oversees the money that comes in
from FIFA or from FIFA from FEMA, perhaps they denied. Yeah,
they denied the application because the county didn't currently have
or the Texas Division of Orige Management did not have

(14:46):
a hazard mitigation plan basically, and then once they developed
that they resubmitted it. But by that point Hurricane Harvey
had happened and they were focused on getting money out
to people that were affected by that. Right, that was
one swinging a mess the bigger one, and this is
the one that's arguably more infuriating for a variety of

(15:09):
fucking reasons. So back in twenty twenty one, the American
Rescue Plan, which was passed by Congress and signed by
then President Joe Biden, actually awarded this county with ten
point two million dollars to support governments that were impacted

(15:30):
by the pandemic. And they gave I saw municipalities.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I want to just stop you for one second. Understand,
the early warning siren system that they were talking about
installing was a million dollars, right, And.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Even though this was from pandemic really to relief, they
were the municipalities were able to kind of spend the
money however they needed to, including storm related infrastructure basically
in order ways to make to make storm preparedness better.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Right. So a couple of examples in this article they
talk about like Corpus Christi was allocated fifty million dollars
of its ARPA funding ARP of the America Rescue Planting
Right to rehabilitate and replace aging storm water infrastructure. Waco's Waco,
Texas's Mcleanan County spent eight hundred and sixty eight thousand

(16:25):
on low water crossings. Right, So it's these are places
in Texas. So it's not like, oh, well in Blue
State's Ariel. No, in Texas, there are two different places
that use the same arp of funding to do climate
sort of climate change themed you know, infrastructure changes. Right.

(16:46):
So Kerr County absolutely going to use it for this.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So what they did with this money was they actually
rejected it from the federal govern because it was given
to them by the Biden administration and they didn't trust
that there wouldn't be strings attached to accepting the money

(17:13):
because it's a quote one resident that the commissioners of
this board polled, quote I'm here to ask this court
today to send this money back to the Biden administration,
which I considered to be the most criminal treason this
communist government to ever hold the White House. We don't
want to be bought by the federal government, thank you
very much. We'd like the federal government to stay out

(17:35):
of Kerr County and their money.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Okay, two things. One, we don't want to be bought
by the federal government. Bitch, you're a part of the government. Like, yeah,
you're a part of the United States. You're already you're
a wholly owned subsidiary. Knock it off. Okay, this is
not jade Helm. Relax. The second part to this is
they didn't actually reject it, right, They didn't reject the

(18:00):
ten point two million dollars, which is worse. Right, this
article does not have the quote, but in other places
I've seen referencing this. So they want Okay, So when
they got the ten point two million dollars, they sent
a survey out being like, hey, what do you think
we should do with this money? Which is a very
weird thing to me. It's like, why are you asking

(18:22):
the people who show up at the like the town
hall meeting on parks and rec what to do with
ten point two million dollars? This seems like a very
bad idea, right, But they send out the survey and
one hundred and eighty people responded because the town only
has like fifty thousand people in it, by the way,
or the county, and one hundred and eighty people responded
to the survey, and forty two percent of the respondents

(18:45):
did not want to take the ten point two million
dollars because of like political reasons, right, Like the quote
that brad red Light I had Joe Biden like fuck
that guy. Right. It was all kind of that sort
of thing. But one of the other quotes from another
article about this was they didn't want to just reject
it and give it back to the federal government, like
fuck you get your your dirty blood money out of here.

(19:06):
They said, we'll keep the money just so that it
doesn't go to a bluestate, right, because they didn't want
to go in New Jersey or New York or California
doing like evil liberal things. So they're like, no, we'll
keep the money, but like, we're gonna use it for
what we want to use it for. We're not gonna

(19:28):
use it for like some like gay shit. To save
our lives and our food.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
We don't we don't want know woke sirens. And that
was the other thing too, is that people like in
discussing like different like flood prevention measures that they could use,
like they floated the idea of installing sirens that were
kind of that are kind of similar like hurricane sirens.
So like basically like if you hear this fucking siren
going off, it's super loud, and it's basically like them

(19:55):
telling you get the fuck out of get the fuck
out of Dodge because right right, and and I don't
have the exact quotes, but there's but basically there's quotes
from people that are like the people like in the
government that are just like, we don't need no loud
sirens going off in here, Like can you imagine that
shit going off? How disturbing it would be for everybody?
Like yeah, bitch, that's the point, like that, that's why

(20:17):
you fucking stolid.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, these are these people. If if it was back
in the day, they'd be like they would be yelling
at Paul Revere from making a bunch of noise, like, yeah,
I get it, the British are coming, but it's really late, Paul.
I'd like to sleep. So they keep the ten million dollars,
right they instead I mean this, you could not make

(20:39):
this ship up instead of using the money for the
siren system, for early warning systems for this stuff. Again,
this place has flooded massively before, right in like the
nineteen eighties, Like this is not like ironically, it's often
talked about like how stupid the people of New World

(21:00):
orlands are that they keep staying in these same places
where these hurricanes come. And then we're supposed to like
give them money from FEMA. They don't deserve it. They're dumb.
These people are doing the exact same thing, but because
they're majority white, it is seen as like well as
rugged individualists or individualism whatever horseshit. So they decide to

(21:20):
keep the money. And what do they do with the money?
They give the money? The county approves seven million dollars
in ARPA dollars again the American Rescue Plan Act dollars
on a public safety radio communication system for the Sheriff's
Department and county fire services to meet the community's needs

(21:42):
for the next ten years. Okay, I'm not mad at
that seven million dollars. Seems like a lot of that money,
but okay, although earlier estimates put the contract at five
million dollars, so it costs two million dollars more than
they originally thought it was going to. Then another million
dollars on top of the seven million dollars went to

(22:04):
the Sheriff's employees in the form of stipends and raises,
and just over six hundred thousand dollars went towards additional
county positions. A new walking path was created with the
ARPA money. I wonder if that walking path was flooded
in these in this recent scenario, how was it worth it?
So they took the money and mostly gave it to

(22:26):
the police. A lot of big crime going on there
and Kerr County of like.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Fifty six Well, and that was the joke I made
to you Andy, like when we were talking about this,
it's like, yeah, like they couldn't fucking install floodbarding systems,
but I mentioned the sheriff's department has like an armored
personnel carry or something.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Oh yeah, fuck it for all that, all that like
supervillain crime going on in this.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Like yeah a county in a county of fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
So yeah, So it's just they took the money that
could have been used to save lives and they just
were like why don't you give it to the cops?
Right that?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And again like that's it comes back to that point.
Do we know how many lives could have been saved? No,
but you know, if they had done the right thing
and installed these systems, No, we don't. But if the
if if the number is at least one, then they
then they fucked up big time. Yeah, with this situation.
But and again all for and and and we were
told by Republicans, hey, like we like it's it's you can't.

(23:24):
You shouldn't put politicize national disasters. Put a call time
out on that. Reride to six months ago when California
wildfliers were wildfires were happening. In the Trump oft mistery
just talking about pulling out you know, funding and assistants
federal sit there's Newfornia.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
There's new wildfires right now.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, so we'll see see how that goes before you
talk about not politicizing and stuff. But no, you can politicize, uh,
the actions of government in response to natural disasters. Because
again they had the opportunity to do this, they chose
not to do it for political reasons, and as a result,
an unknown number of people have been killed because of

(24:05):
something that again they knew what happened, whether I mean
the the floods of this magnitude. Okay, maybe that's a
little unpredictable, Like obviously this is like record flooding. It's
crazy and obviously, like even if you are the climate
change denying party, like you understand still that flooding is
going to happen that much, you know, So the fact
that you're willing to allow your citizens to be ill

(24:26):
prepared for such a thing, to be warned about this stuff.
That just lets me know that you actually get chalk
another tick in the box for the pro life party,
who really cares about life? And they tell you all
the time, like, man, we really care about life. That's
that's why it's important that we outlaw abortions everywhere. But again,
to match all Frost's point, like you want the baby

(24:47):
to be born, but then you don't give a fuck no,
Like you're more than willing to let kids die in
school shootings. You're now more than willing to let kids
die because of climate disaster that you want to choose
not only not only do you not want to dress
the like the the uptick in climate events, but you
don't even want to say people when the shit's gonna

(25:08):
happen anyway, Yeah, like during the event itself, you're just like,
I fuck it, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Here's the thing they're not though, they are fact not
gonna be all right. And look we I mean, I
think probably many people have seen that video of the
older white woman and she's like, we need help. We're
not like san Antonio, but were you. We're a small
county with Tonian help, send his help whatever, and then
smash cut to another video of her being like, hell yeah,

(25:38):
alligator Alcatraz, We're not giving you guys any funding. Fuck
these other states, small so other shit. It's like, oh,
welcome to the fuck around and welcome to the find
out part a fuck around and find out it only
gets sad and is upsetting to you when you suffer.
And it's not that you're suffering or these people suffering

(25:59):
doesn't matter at her, but you should give a fuck
when anybody does in the United States is like, hey man,
this wildfire is going on in California. They gotta send
federal money. Let's help these people. You don't have to
do shit, just have the thought process to at least
say out loud like yeah, man, people should help us.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, or just keep your mouth or maybe say nothing
instead of fuck those liberals like they deserve to die, right,
you know. Like, so it's it's hard for like, oh,
if you know, if you know there's fires, maybe you
shouldn't live there. Oh no, my house is underwater.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well at least it's not a fire. Well yeah, I
guess not, like but it not being able to have
that level of human empathy is so common in sort
of right wing circles, Like it's laughable that they call
themselves a pro life party, Like you're not even like
pro life would be one thing. You're not even pro

(26:52):
helping people at this point, Like I'm not even talking
about pro life or not just helping people. Because if
this was a small minority county, like just why don't
you guys move?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Wait, that's the thing, like it like it's something like
that doesn't happen like in like somewhere outside of Houston
or something like that. I think the response from conservatives
would be different.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, oh did you want the funding? I need you
to change your liberal policies or whatever. Dumb shit, right,
Like that's what they try to do in California. So
it's to me, Look, I feel sorry for the people
of Kirk County. I really do, because you know, I'm
sure there are people that they don't deserve that shit.
But what I would say is this, This is why

(27:33):
Brad and I I think are on the sort of
the same path here, which is you need to be
able to see the consequences of how you vote, right,
Like there is an aspect of like, we gotta save them.
We gotta save them, right, Like, I mean, yes, when
they're in the shit, Like you gotta save people, right, Like,

(27:53):
I'm not against that unless you're like it depends on
the person really, if I'm being honest, but most people
gotta save him, right, I'm not mad at that. But
this is why you need to see the consequences of
your voting actions, like you really do, right.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Because we're not done. We're not done with the consequences
of voting as it pains to the story.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Oh no, no, no, not by damn site. So like,
but you got to be able to see that, and
so that idea of like, well, democrats need to pass
something to stop this. In a way, I'm kind of
like they don't though, because if you keep saving them,
they never learn a lesson. And this is a prime example.

(28:34):
They literally like The funny thing is, as I think
about this, this is this is what's hilarious. You ever
heard that old like, uh, this is like an old
religious joke, right, which is you know, I was like,
there's a guy standing on a roof and like the
whole town's flooding, right, and he's like standing on his
roof trying to survive and a guy in a boat

(28:56):
comes by and it's like, hey man, I get on
the boat. Get on the boat, like we gotta get
the fuck out of here. And the guy's like, no, no,
Jesus is gonna save me. And the guy's like all right,
I don't know. And then like later on, a helicopter
comes and like, guy's like in the fucking helicopter, we
gonna get the fuck out of here. And guy's like no, no, no,
Jesus is gonna save me. And the guy drowns and
then he goes to heaven and he's like, God, Jesus,

(29:19):
why didn't you Why didn't you save me? I was
waiting on you. He's like, dude, I sent the boat,
I sent the helicopter. What the fuck are you talking about? Right,
And so it's like we need help, We need help, dude,
Joe Biden sent you money to help, but you're so
you're so weirdly stuck in this mindset of like us

(29:40):
versus them, that you won't even take the money to
help yourself. If if Donald Trump was like hey man,
and he did, by the way, he gave a pittance,
but he was like, hey, here's some here's some funding
for HBCUs. You know, the HBC used it. They were like,
this guy's a piece of shit, thank you, and they
took the money appreciated. What the fuck Like, you still

(30:01):
need funding. That's the job of the federal government. If
that was a job that they do, then you take
the money and you do the thing. But like this
whole idea like, oh, I'm afraid there's strings attached, but
there wasn't.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Though, Yeah, sorry, I mean, I mean I didn't, like
I didn't light my Trump uh COVID stimulus check on
fire just because I was like outraged at fucking foul travel, Like, hey,
thanks for the six hundred dollars, but still fuck you, Like,
just just give them.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
The just give them a fucking throwing the bird and
cash a check, dude, Like this shit ain't hard, Like
like I actually don't think there's anything wrong with that, Like,
you know, some people, well that's hyppocritical six hundred dollars.
I'm kidding. The word hypocritical goes right out the door.
So like, but these guys are literally willing to just
piss the money away on things that actually don't help them,

(30:50):
just for their perspective. Of just so that you don't
get the money.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, we sure showed the Libs that we sure we
sure showed those liberals, did we fucking taking a piss
on that money they gave us? Showed us?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, I feel totally you owned us.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, I feel totally owned. You owned us so hard,
holy shit.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So, like, don't don't be that rigid in your ideology
that when somebody sends you a boat you're like, no,
I'm not gonna get in. That's dumb, Like that's really dumb.
So good job, Kirk County. I guess all right, Brad, Yeah,
keep going.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah. So, uh, the the great news, the consequences of
one's voting actions keeps on coming. You know who hasn't
really been on the ground since these floods happened last
last Friday. Your FEMA has been almost nowhere to be
seen in the in the sir, in the search and
rescue and like recovery efforts and stuff like that. Like

(31:46):
very little FEENA staff have been on the ground.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Why would that be bread?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, the the acting administrator, David Richardson was in Baton
Rouge today, just fucking around somewhere else. This is the guy,
the same guy, by the way, who a couple of
weeks ago expressed shock and bewilderment at the fact that
there was such a thing as a hurricane season. He
was unaware that that that that there is such a

(32:11):
thing as hurricane season, which just started. This guy is
the head of FEMA. I just want to I just
want to point that out again. So that's great.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
What's what's more ridiculous? This isn't a side. Did that
guy didn't know that there was a hurricane season and
he's had a FEMA or the dude from road Rules
is now the head of NASA. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's pretty fucking it's pretty fucking crazy. So so so
FEMA's nowhere to be found. Doesn't help that Christy Nome,
who is the Department of Homeland Security head who oversees FEMA,
she put out a memo last month saying, Hey, I'm
going to have greater control over FEMA operations. So basically,

(33:02):
every contract and grant that they issue that's over one
hundred thousand dollars needs to be personally approved by Christy
Nome before the money could be released, which is going
to add you know, time for these things to be
released in situations where you don't have time. Now, obviously

(33:24):
the reason that they're doing this is because they want
to make sure that they keep a watchful eye over
every fucking penny that goes to a liberal state to
help with disaster relief in those situations. Do But yeah, FEMA,
whose job is to this is their job, Like, this
is what they're supposed to do. And by the way,
like even though this was unexpected, like this is kind

(33:45):
of a dress rehearsal for what they're going to be
running into over the next you know, three to four
months as hurricane season draws out in the in the
impacted areas of the country. So this isn't This isn't great.
And not only has the response been pretty fucking pissed poor,
but Trump had his monthly you know, cabinet fillating on

(34:08):
Monday that, of course, was televised for all to see.
Not only did Trump tell Christy Nome and everyone in
Texas like, hey, you guys did a fucking brilliant job
because only one hundred people died. I guess that's the
acceptable casualty rate for Donald Trump is like, hey, we
only killed one hundred people a plus work, you guys,

(34:28):
fucking nailed in great shouty.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
And I killed a million last time. Baby, we're doing really.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Good, right, But Christy Nome herself said, and again I
don't have the verbatim quote, but something along the lines
of when when a reporter asked her like about the
slow response from FEMA to get on the ground to
help out with recovery efforts down in Kirk County, She's like, well,
you know, it's actually the states who are the ones

(34:54):
who met who run disaster relief, Like the federal government
doesn't really get involved. And it's like, yeah, you guys
don't coordinate, but you still assist both from a manpower
and from and more importantly from a financial standpoint. Like
that's the big fucking problem right there. And again, let

(35:15):
it also not be forgotten. I think Trump actually said
this week reiterated the fact that he thinks, actually do
we need FEMA?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Like, ok, hold on, he is talking about phasing out
FEMA after the hurricane season. This is this is him
saying this shit like he is He's done, Like we
don't need it, maybe like we're good. Ironically, ironically, I

(35:42):
I talked about this last week that I would love
to get all these like right wing TikTokers into a
room and ask them, hey, when you were tweeting all
of your horseshit or or you know, posting all these
videos about your horseshit about North Carolina during the Biden
ministry when they were suffering through those terrible storms and

(36:03):
they were sending them money and you know, like that
emergency seven hundred and fifty dollars or what happened it was,
which is the standard way in which it has always worked,
right when they sent them that money and had them
applying so they could get more funny and everything else.
It was like, here's his money for food. Man, We're
like just giving you a fucking check right away. When
you were making that out to be some sort of

(36:25):
sinister thing, how the government was only seven sending seven
hundred and fifty dollars and didnt give a shit about
North Carolina and all this other stuff, and that Joe
Biden wasn't on the ground, he wasn't doing all of
this stuff. I would love to get these people in
the room and go where are you now? Because not
only has Donald Trump not gone there yet, I believe
he's going tomorrow on Friday. More on that in a second.

(36:48):
I'll tell you a quote he said it, which I
thought was just fucking amazing. So he hasn't been there,
so he doesn't have boots on the ground. They're not
sending any FEMA folks on the ground in Kirk County.
They're not sending money, including the seven hundred and fifty

(37:08):
dollars that was so insulting to you guys before. They're
not sending any of that shit. These are quote unquote
your people, right, These are red staters. These are people
who support you or you support their ideas, and you, guys,
are commonality amongst men and everything else. Right, Where is
your outreach? Because to me, what you talked about, which

(37:30):
wasn't true, is literally exactly what's happening now. Right, So
Trump says in a press conference like today, yes, says
something like that. He goes, well, I'm going down there.
It's maybe even like two days ago. Actually, he says, well,
I'm going down there on Friday, you know, to kind
of check things out. But they don't like presidents to

(37:52):
come to these things because all the attention gets pulled
to them, right, So, which is accurate, right, which is
very true. It's the same reason why, like a famous
person will die, a famous politician will die. And they
were like, don't invite the president unless it's like a
like an ex president, like a Jimmy Carter funeral type
of thing, because the president just draws too much fucking
attention and everything, right, it makes total sense, and in.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
What race's attention, he means like logistical attention. Yeah, listen,
Like the president can't just moseyon off Air Force one
into the floods the flood path and just walk around. No,
it's just way too like there's way too many logistics
that have to be coordinated for the president.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Right exactly, So I actually him not mad at a
president not going there like boots on and around fucking
day one type of shit like that would be insane.
But Republicans act like that's not true when it's a Democrat.
When it's a Republican president, they go, well, no, it's understandable,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't shifted to like, well, you know,
like the reason they haven't given the money to the
residents because it would actually be insulting if they did
give them any money, because that would deny them the
chance to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps and
by their own absolutely want to do intead of instead
of just getting a handout from there like that. That's
what I'm surprised. I'm surprised. That's where the the you
know that has it shipped to.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Well, like they need to be able to pull themselves up,
but they're very wet bootstraps that have been underwater for
the last four days. But you know, well, you know,
we believe in you know, rugged individualism. That's our whole
fucking horseshit appeal. So he says that, and I just
I laughed because I was like, you and the rest
of you fucking right wingers. Trump included lamb based it

(39:30):
Joe Biden for not being boots on the ground when
all this is going on. But where are you, big dog, Like,
where are you right? You're staying away for the same
reasons he did. And so I take all of that,
and I take that hypocrisy, and I just want to
relay a story, right because I was I was talking
to Brad about like one of my favorite things is
like funny like presidential stories. I don't know if I

(39:53):
I think I've told this story on the show before.
But for people who never heard.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
It, I think you should before before you do. This
is a Reagan story, I'm assuming. No, this is not
a Ragon story, shocking.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
No, No, this is this is uh no, this is
a this is a it's a weird, no fun story. Actually,
So the whole idea, behind, the whole history behind, like
presidents going and putting boots on the ground like during
natural disasters did not exist before nineteen sixty five. It's like,
oh shit, it's a hurricane in fucking Kansas. Fucking best
of luck, bro, We'll send money, but I going out there, like,

(40:29):
get the fuck out. I'm saying to DC, this is
that's crazy. Good luck. Right, But in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Your second favorite president.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yes, so that's a wild thing to say. But like
he kind of is like he kind of also like
historic presidence, like he like he a bit problematic for sure,
but uh really my second favorite. Right nineteen sixty five,
Hurricane Betsy struck the Gulf Coast in September right, devastating

(41:00):
New Orleans and very specifically did a lot of damage
in the ninth ward right, a lot of the lower
ninth ward right, which is obviously a lot of people
know the Lower ninth Ward from Hurricane Katrina. Right, So
the Lower ninth Ward has is kind of like the
bottom of the bowl, I think, Right, so it's just
it when shit goes bad, it goes really bad there.
Of course, that's the poorest area and it's it's one

(41:22):
of the blackest areas of New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Johnson toured damage in person. By the way, the one
day after the hurricane hit. It hit on like, let's say,
a fucking Monday. My man was there on Tuesday, Like
what's up, boots on the right.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Fairness might in fairness, he might have been visiting Texas.
Somebody just been like a hop skipping the jump over.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
But still it just happened. They're like they even clear debris, like,
don't worry, We're fucking going land Land air Force. So
he went and he was fucking boots on the ground
the very next day, Right Johnsen toward the damage in person.
He went to the Lower ninth Ward right again, a
heavily affected and mostly black community, and it made a

(42:09):
now famous impromptu speech with a flashlight under his chin
in the dark, declaring quote like going like through the
debris and shit saying this is your president, I am
here to help, which is just fucking insane, right, like
just imagining Lyndon Johnson like with the flashlight, like these

(42:30):
scared kids in a school. This is your president, I'm
here to help. Oh Jesus Christ, it's listed Johnson run.
But that's what he did, right, and of course like
it's political, but it was also like it's a it's
a it's a very presidential thing to do. All these
other fucking and he's a Texan, right, like all these
pussies wouldn't do it. I'm fucking doing I'm the second

(42:51):
the cloud's clear, I'm down there. But from that moment
on in nineteen sixty five, every president generally will go
and fucking they got the the the windbreaker with the
president to see you, and they're looking around like they
know what the fuck they're doing. They don't show me
the debris there it is. That's a big pol of debris,
like that's all they do. But that's because.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Like, let you check out the we check out the
sweet boots that the governor far is rocking down here
to the scene.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, he's just a new goo, new boot good Like
that's not it's not his fault everybody. But yeah, Lyngend.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Johnson, maybe Trump get a parent maybe maybe maybe in
the Santa Ses he's going to uh hey, like I
got you a present while down there, dude, lo.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I will tell you something, if Trump came out in
those fucking white boots, holy ship, the memes would never end.
They would never end, they would never But there's no
way he's gonna be in his standard fucking loafers and
and oversized off the rack suit. I'm sure. But yeah, no,

(43:55):
Lyndon Johnson. Uh, that's that's just one of my wow
of many Lyndon Johnson insanes. That's that's definitely up there.
I just think that's really funny. So yeah, So apparently
Trump is well aware that presidents going to these things
causes a lot of logistical areas or situations. I'm glad
that he figured it out. I wish him and the

(44:16):
rest of his mob of idiots would stop pretending that
they don't know that when Democrats are in power. That's
the point of that story.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Uh And but but again, just to kind of tie
boeing this, when we talk about elections having consequences here
here it is you're you're you're witnessing it in real time.
And again this goes under reported. It's not going to
get it's it's not very sexy. Obviously, Fox News is
never gonna fucking talk about it, because why the fuck
would they. I'm sure they moved on past the story

(44:46):
at lightning speed. But like, these are the real consequences
when you put people in power that don't have an
interest in making sure that government works well. Correct the
government it touches a lot more than we think about
on a daily.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Basis, right, And and look, I'll just say this, and
I think that's a great point, and I will I'll
piggyback on top of that and say this. When people
say that tax is theft, this is why that statement
is stupid. Because your tax dollars while that gets pulled
out of your check and it is inconvenient, nobody loves it, right,
everybody wishes there was a little less being taken out.

(45:25):
It's used for things like this. We are we are
called the United States of America for a reason. Take
all that money, you pull it all together, and you go,
oh shit, Susan, Susan's houses underwater. We gotta try to
help them. Take a little bit of that money, you
send it to Susan and it helps them. It's the
most American I think of all the time.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I wonder if you asked the average Republican if they understood,
Like like like, if you ask the average Republican voter, like, hey,
explain to me, like how car insurance works. Like take
take like health insurance or anything like that's politically tinged
out of it, and just like ask and be like, hey,
explain to me how car insurance works. I wonder how

(46:07):
many people think that like the money that you're paying
that you pay towards your car insurance like goes into
a personal bank for you, and then that money it
gets drawn out like when you have a fucking car accident,
not realizing that again, like the whole point of car
insurance it's a communal pool that everybody pays into and

(46:29):
the money goes to the people that need it at
the time. But they can afford to give that money
because they have this big pool of money that even
people who don't need it are paying into. Taxes are
pretty much the same fucking thing like in many ways.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, well, I mean people would make the argument I
should get that money back if I don't use it
at the end of the year. I'm like, that's cute,
but that's not how life works.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Like no, but but again, like you like you benefit
from the government every single fuck day. Like the fact
that you're not you know, riding on a dirt road
to and from work, uh, you know on a daily
basis is literally thanks to the government. Right. The reason
that you have electricity in any house you walk into,
like when you move homes, you don't have to think about, hey,

(47:15):
is this house wired for right power or plumbing or
stuff like that. Why because there's regulations and you know,
utilities are managed like like regulated by the federal government,
so they're forced to work in a very specific fashion,
like stuff you don't think about because it's just it
just happens exactly automatically. It's the government.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Yeah, and and it's and it's funny because even something
like FEMA, even if you're not in an area that
you're directly affected on it, Like I've never lived in
an area that's directly been affected by like some natural disaster, right,
like it just I mean not to anything, Like I mean,
they've had hurricanes in Baltimore before. I'm sure there's some
FEMA money that went to that, but but never something

(47:57):
like this, like the major flooding or you know, like
God forbid, like major hurricanes or something like in New Orleans,
like I s, I've never experienced that, but I have
to imagine that even though I don't live in those
areas and never have, I still benefit it from from
the just the perspective of I live in a country

(48:18):
where people are able to live their lives and get
them back to normal, so that you don't have big
swas in the country just destroyed all the time, right
or just states are suffering and their budgets are on
the brink because they've had to pull hundreds of millions
billions of dollars potentially to try to fix this county
or something like that. Like Trump is out there saying, oh,

(48:41):
we're gonna get rid of FEMA. Okay, what happens when
you get flooding, multiple floods are across Texas, you get
whatever other I mean. I'm sure they have tornadoes in Texas,
a big fucking state. I'm sure they have maybe a
little bit of like wildfire situation. It's obviously not as
bad at California, but I'm sure they have those as well.

(49:04):
You know, I don't know if they have earthquakes, but
you know, other natural disasters that happen in Texas or
like the major freezing issues that they've been having over
the last number of years. When that destroys infrastructure and
things like that, that's more and more things that get
pulled out of the state budget. Right, you have to
understand that. So when those things are pulling from the
state budget, that's less and less money to build roads,

(49:28):
to handle health insurance, to you know, to do just
the basic things that.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
By the way, by the way, when when when states
do get overdrawn and and they need more money for
stuff like disaster relief that weren't budgeted, what's usually the
first UH department that gets money pulled from it?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Education?

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Help It's education every single fucking time.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Why are the kids so dumb?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Because you because you won't connect to the power grid
that the rest of us use, you fucking idiots. Yeah,
so whenever you have an ice storm, yeah, you're fucked
for for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah. So, like just understand that FEMA isn't just about
the disaster like in it of itself, but it is
also about the massive amount of money that that would
potentially pull from state budgets because Trump is talking, like
we just said, Trump is talking about pulling FEMA completely
out of the like ending it after hurricane season done.

(50:27):
Apparently the head of FEMA just found out about last week.
It's unbelievably ridiculous. So when that goes away and North
Carolina has issues, or California or you know, name a
red state.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, again, don't forget why FIFA was formed in the
first place. Because we had a historic fucking hurricane that
completely devastated a largely populated area and the fucking city
of New Orleans is like, holy fuck, Like, how the
fuck can we ever possibly up to deal with this?
And the US Administration, to their credit, was like, yeah,

(51:02):
we gotta do something about this, Like we can't just
fucking sit on this. We can't just leave people like this, right,
you can't. You can't. You can't fucking do that.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
So mm hmm. So it's not a it's not as
simple as you know, FEMA good, FEMA bad. There's a
lot of nuance to this. And again, if you're not
helping the states, the budgets are going to get stretched.
And by the way, the people who are going to
suffer the most are people in red states because you
have less money and you depend and by.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
The way, waiting and by the way, unlike the federal
budget where people fucking wring their hands about like the
debt and the deficit, it's so bad, We're throwing out
this money and it actually doesn't fucking matter. And I,
as we talked about the show, it drives me nuts
that people don't understand how that works. It does not
work that way on the state level. Like the state
level is like, hey, we have x money uh coming

(51:48):
in from taxes. This is our budget and that's what
we say. We know, we don't we don't have this
magical infinite like debt counter that we can just throw
money at because states can't issue government bonds problem.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So yeah, there's no state level money glitch.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
There is, Yeah, there is, like like like fucking Texas
doesn't have a you know, can't print their own money
to be like, oh, don't worry, like we got this
yet yet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, the Texan the balloon coming coming coming to
your inflationary uh spending in twenty twenty six. So yeah,
it's people need to understand that this is this is
this has really far reaching implications. But hey, again, Kirk
County just found out how bad that can be. We're

(52:36):
about to figure out what that's like on a national level.
Because when all this shit starts popping off in all
these other states, especially all these like hurricane or tornado
alley states, good luck, man, what are you supposed to do?
And look, to Trump's credit, he has not been given
money to red states either. He said go fuck yourself
to Arkansas. He seems to be saying go fuck yourself

(52:57):
to Texas too.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, well, I mean, what the fuck does he care? Again?
We talked about like he's he's in there now, like
like he'd like, like, you don't have to worry about
running oother election again. Yeah, just it's script in time, baby. Yeah,
I don't. I don't got time to worry about disaster.
If I gotta, I gotta make those vengemins out of
the meme coin I got launch.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
God, I got two billion dollars. I'm sitting on its
fucking burning a hole in my pocket. So yeah, speaking of.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well and I guess in some ways,
I guess in some ways they might be happy, uh
to have uh, the distraction of this devastating flood going
on because there's nothing to see. Uh, you know, don't
look at don't look behind the curtain at any of
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Yeah, don't look at the pedophile behind the curtain and
Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, it's this story is one of those
like don't believe, you're gonna believe me or you're lying
ice and ears, uh stories, which is unbelievable. Again, this
is a self inflicted gunshot one for the Trump administration.

(54:06):
Yet again, they so heavily ran, especially Dan Bongino, Pam
Bondi or Dan Mangino and Cashptel very specifically ran on
this whole idea of like we're gonna release the Epstein files.
We got it. They went on every fucking bro dog
podcast and everything else said, if we ever get power again,

(54:26):
we're gonna fucking we're gonna release that shit. Joe Biden
isn't releasing it. Why is he releasing it? Is he
on the list? Holy shit? We gotta we gotta release
the list. People are like, all right, cool, Like we
can agree here, this is a thing. You should release. Democrats, Republicans,
there's no friction here. Man, release the list. Oh but
Bill Clint might be on the list, release the list.

(54:47):
I don't care like Bill clin I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I don't know why. I don't know why, but I
mean I know why. It's because they, you know, work
themselves into a shooting about all these like fucking conspiracy
theories all the time. But like Democrats and liberals are
generally pro transparency, like we we we are for you know,
things coming out and in the public getting to see
all the dirty details.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Right, It's just so funny, like, oh, Bill Clinton's on
the list. If you hit this button, he's gonna be
on He's gonna get exposed. It's like, yeah, hit that button,
like all the time, like what the fuck? I love
that meme. It's so funny, like no, no, no, not
like you're doing. It's like sweating. I don't care, Like
Bill Clinton is not my best friend. If Bill Clinton

(55:27):
is a pedophile, then yeah, bury him under the jail
along with oh no, like he played the saxophone. I
don't give a fuck, go to jail. Who cares? So
so they come out, the d O J comes out
and they're like, look, bro, why are we talking about ship?

(55:49):
And you know, Jeffrey seeing client lists get out of
here of course. Not, that's crazy. There's no client list,
and Jeffrey I've seen definitely can I did suicide?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
The funniest thing is did you see the Pam Bondi
clip where she talks about the minute missing in the tape?

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah? Yeah, here's here's the video. Hey, there's a minute
missing here. Oh yeah, that's that's just the glitch in
the system. Everyone knows about that.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, it's a glitch in the system since the nineteen nineties,
and there's a minute missing in every tape because like
they use this, like they use the same tape or like,
what the fuck are you talking about? And she was like,
there's a minute missing in all of those tapes. And
I'm like, that's a wild thing to say. I'm like, cool,
I'd like to see the tape for the last ten years. Please,

(56:38):
that's what let's let's sit down and go, oh, we're
very busy. Yeah, I know you're So she comes down
to there, you know, obviously there's nothing weird about the
camera not specifically working where hey, and it's missing a minute.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Sure. The funniest thing is that she goes out and
like says that not really like apparently not realizing that
all of their constituents are fucking conspiracy minded nut jobs
that like, if you fucking give them a tape with
a minute missing, that's like that's like fucking red meat
to a to a hungry dog essentially, right, Like you're.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Just fueling them. They're just feeling I don't know, man,
like you don't have access to AI or something like
figure it out. And I saw someone made a really
good point. They were like, let me get this straight.
There is a known one minute flaw in all of
these tapes every day for the last like thirty or

(57:35):
forty years or some shit that they've had the system,
and this is a known thing. What was top someone
from exploiting that? Like if you knew that you had
a minute to like sneak into Jeffrey Epstein's cell and
fucking you know, string them up and kill them. I
mean two people could hang a person in a minute,

(57:56):
Like it would not be hard. It seems like if
I'm going Okham's razor here, I'm gonna go with that's
a bowl of bullshit. And what you're saying doesn't make
any sense, right, So they come out and say, hey,
there's no client list, and he killed himself. Of course,
like Brad said, this does nothing but fuel the conspiracies, right,

(58:17):
and they're like, I mean, even even a person as
useless as Peter Deucey is like, the fuck are you
talking about? So let's check this out. This is amazing.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Soh the FBI.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Looks at the circumstances furrounding the death of Jeffrey Jeffrey Epstein.
According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating
client list.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
So what happened to the Epstein client.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
List that the Attorney General said she had on her desk?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Well, I think if you go back and look at
what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was
on your network on Fox News, go ahead, and.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Roberts said, do OJ maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey
Epstein's clients?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Will that really happen?

Speaker 4 (59:00):
And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now
to review.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to. And I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice. They are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Okay, I want to point something out that she said
that was really weird. No, it's not the client list,
it's all of the other information.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
That's a past file, respond responding to a question specifically
about the client list.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Right, but okay, So when Trump came out this weekend,
was like, why you're talking about every Epstein?

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Like no, no, no, no, that shit was so fucking funny.
Like I said, again, this is during his cabinet flating,
and the reporter asked him a question about it, and
like to your point, He literally said, like are you
still really talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Like I can't believe
you guys are wasting time like like this, that dude
fucking died six years ago, Like what are we even

(01:00:04):
talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I killed that guy died of natural or whatever with
a sheet around his neck. So like but she Okay,
let's let's play devil's advocate for a second. Let's let's
pretend that we believe what they're saying is true. He
killed himself. There was no client list. Okay, why has

(01:00:32):
no one gone to jail? You said, that you had,
and this is this is actually my point. You're like,
there's all this information, she's looking at all of it
on her desk. One how big is her desk? Because
there's probably a lot of fucking information. By the way,
why hasn't anyone been brought up, like been indicted? If

(01:00:54):
you're telling me that there is no client list? Okay,
let's say I believe you, but you have you said
from that fucking podium they or Pam Bondi said they
have hours, hours and hours of video evidence of pedophilia
and job pornography and all sides. They have hours of tape.

(01:01:16):
Then why has no one been indicted? Why has no
one gone to jail? If you have that information, it
seems to me that you have the guy and his
accomplices dead to fucking rights. So why is no one
going to prison over it? If there's no client list,

(01:01:36):
why is Jiz laying Maxwell in prison? What proof do
you have? Is it in the other documents you're talking about? Cool?
Then what is the what's the proof that you have?
Is she holding Jeffrey Epstein's dick and all of them?
Is there no one else to be involved in all
of this? No one believes that, so there are other

(01:01:57):
people who are involved. Now Trump come out and says
that what's the line He says, I fucking have this article.
He says something to the effect of this could like
ruin people's lives.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Right, Well, so so he said he said that before, right,
So like there you and I talked before the show,
Like there's an interview I don't remember who did it
a couple of months ago where I have to talked
about when he gets when when he gets back in office,
they're like, you know, hey, or like you're going to
be classify all this stuff, and they're like you're going
to be class by a JFK. And he's like, yeah,
hell yeah, it's fucking like you're going to be classify

(01:02:35):
this Hell yeah's fucking like, oh, are you going to
just declassify the epsy case? He's like yeah, well ah,
like actually, like that's really complicated, and like you might
see some names in there, and you could you know,
get you know, get someone in a lot of trouble
if you know, if they're just names in this book
but they have nothing to do with this blah blah blah,
and just like all of a sudden, like that went
from like yeah, like we're gonna be so transparent and

(01:02:57):
then like well hold on, now, wait a second, Like this,
JEFFSTI it's a little it's a little more sensitive than
than all this other ship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, it turns out this is like a there's been
a nuance here, Like I don't even do nuance right,
So on News Nations Cuomo on Wednesday, Bill O'Reilly said
that he had spoken with Trump Man to man eye
to eye about the Epstein files on Saint Patrick's Day, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
His holiest of holidays. Yeah, so you know it's important.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, it's like I took a break, you know, I
got I got to oh in the name I was
supposed to be like partying right there. Quote he said,
And I agree. There's a lot of names associated with
Epstein that had nothing to do with Epstein's conduct. They
may have they maybe had lunch with him, or maybe
had some correspondence from one thing or another. If that

(01:03:46):
name gets out, those people are destroyed because there there's
not going to be any context that is actually correct. Right.
This is the thing that when you talk to like
nutters about thee shit, they're like, if your name was
even remotely associated this guy, you were definitely on that
island having sex with kids. I'm like, that's a wild charge, bro, Like,

(01:04:07):
that's a wild fucking charge to say to somebody, right,
because one you don't know that. Two this is exactly
what Jeffrey Epstein did. There's tons of people who were like, yeah,
he like funded science and shit like that. Like he
played in both worlds, the fucking sicko, disgusting world that
they should be uh taking him to the edge of
a cliff and pushed off of it, and then like
the normal human world. Right. The reason for that is

(01:04:31):
that's what scumbags do. Because if you only play in
the fucking the scumbag world, you're easy to pick off.
But if you are interwoven between like normal people activities,
people don't suspect you. Right, Why would I suspect you
if it's like, oh, I just gave so and so
overright on my on my plane, nothing was like fucking weird.

(01:04:51):
There was no massages or young girls. I was just
flying them back to California from New York because they
just funded like this big scientific thing. You don't think
think about it, so you don't have a connection to
Jeffrey Epstein. In that second circle. Yours is the legit circle,
and he played people like that for a reason for
his own protection and to protect other people in the

(01:05:13):
fucking psycho circle, right Like, that's what that's there for.
So Bill O'Reilly and Trump in this moment are actually
correct about that. However, this is the problem that I have.
For me to believe that Donald Trump cares about anybody
else is a bridge too far, because I because I
don't think so, and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I don't I will, I will disagree with you there
and and and I will. And it's specifically because who
would be likely to get mixed up in all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Ship besides him?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Besides him other rich people a ka, the only class
of person that he actually.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Has Respect's fair?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
That's fair?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Like to me, this is I saw someone write this
online and it's it's so fucking devious that I'm actually
shocked that they didn't do it, which is put out
a bullshit list of just people he doesn't like, right Like,
I feel like, given the opportunity, would he knife Bill

(01:06:18):
Clinton in the back to be like, oh, Bill Clinton's
on the list? Who else on the I can't mention
anybody else? Right, you know? Like I wouldn't be surprised,
but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Think he's even smart enough to know that he can't
just fucking do like you can't be like, oh, it
was just Bill Clinton weird like bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Like it was a really really thick book and he
just kept writing Bill Clinton over and over.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
You know what else is weird? Like I think I
subconsciously understood this, but it just kind of crystallized in
my head right now. It's also weird that him his
whole fucking like cult following that he has weirdly insulates him.
Because think about this, right, if you're a fucking not
you know not and and are digging for every little

(01:07:01):
bit of conspiracy. Here's some weird facts like the guy
the lawyer that got Epstein in the Sweetheart plea deal
like several years ago before the als Costa was appointed
by Trump to be his labor secretary during his first term.
We know that Trump took flights on Epstein's plane because

(01:07:23):
he fucking said that he did. RFK has also been
linked in the past with Jeffrey Epstein, and he's Trump's
ages section. Like all these people that are in Trump's
direct orbit and that are given positions like in Hill
Barhouse are people that are linked with this, yet somehow
like like and in any normal conspiracy, like they people
would like center on Trump, it's like, oh, he's it

(01:07:45):
has to be involved now. But because he is him,
and because all these fucking crazy people like revere him
as their called leader, somehow he's like insulated from all
this stuff, which is very odd to me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, he's the Pepe Silver of this entire thing. Right,
here's a here's an interesting quote from uh from the
Hill Today. Lawyer Alan Derschwitz on Thursday said, he knows.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Look, I'm sorry here his name without just laughing anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yes, well he is. He is a fucking character. I
kept my pants on. Okay, this is the argument you're making.
When I was at the eyelines got my pants on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
My my my I kept my pants on T shirt.
Lead to a lot of questions that the sir already answered.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
She's like a wild admission, my man, I kept my
pants on. Fucking is a fucking bar. Yeah. Lawyer Alan
Derschwitz on Thursday said he knows the list of names
in Jeffrey Epstein's files regarding alleged clients in his international
sex trafficking right. Quote I know the names of the individuals.
I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them,

(01:09:01):
Dershwitz said during an appearance on The Sean Spicer Show.
But I am bound by confidentiality from a judge in cases,
I can't disclose what I know, noting at one point
he was falsely named as a client. So yeah, Alan

(01:09:22):
Derschwitz knows, Dan Bongino knows, Cash Betel knows, Uh, Pam
Bonding knows. But we're all supposed to. Donald Trump of
course knows.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Do you think they got the list? And Donald Trump
hasn't seen the list? Get the fuck out of here.
He was like, oh shit, tell the list is me.
That's crazy. Scratch that one out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
I mean, by Jeffrey Epstein's own words, he was best
friends with Donald Trump. Like that was his best photographic
evidence to support a.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Lot of this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Yeah, I am. I find it amazing that we are
We are literally being told this is probably not real, right,
guys like this is not that. It's like, no, dude,
this is a big fucking deal. This guy definitely is
on that list. And there's probably a lot of other
people like Prince Andrew and shit It's definitely on that

(01:10:20):
list too, right, maybe Bill Clinton's on that list again.
I don't have a fuck. Sound them all to prison.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
What's now? What's interesting is that, at least for now,
this this hey you know, nothing to see here, don't
worry about it, is not passing the sniff test with
a lot of their more ardent supporters that very much
are invested in this ship.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Now, it's interesting because a lot of those people, these
really hardcore people who are really like the Jeffrey Epstein
thing was like their thing that they were really focused
on during the campaign. A lot of those people are like, look,
I cannot support him if he doesn't release this information.
We're waiting like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
We'll see, we'll see like like like like like, as
I told you, it's like I would think that this
would be the issue that would break a lot of
these people. But who am I trying to kid when
I say that, I'm sure they will tie themselves into
knots uh to justify in two weeks, to justify how
Oh no, actually, this is why this is actually fine and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
It is actually good for it. Yeah no, no, Like
if you think about it, having a president who understands children,
so deeply is kind of a guy we want. Wait,
what the fuck are you guys talking about. Okay, that's
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