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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody, and welcome back to Lost genre reddit stories
quick and foe. I read the original and the first
update five months ago, and now we're back for the
final update. This post is from the subreddit Relationship Advice,
and it's by user lurk and tawe eighty five. My
thirty eight female sister thirty four female made up a
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dead brother to her spouse thirty five male and in
law sixties male and female. I accidentally outed the lie.
But why am I the bad guy here? Usually a lurker,
but something happened tonight that has me incredibly confused. Apologies
in advance for the length backstory. I'm the eldest of
four sisters were stairstepped two years apart. I'm Meg thirty eight,
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Joe is thirty six, Beth is thirty four, and Amy
is thirty two. Our parents used to joke about how
they kept trying for a boy but finally gave up
after girl number four. Not gonna lie. It hurts our
feelings a little, especially Amy, but they stopped that and
assured us they wouldn't change anything. Everyone has at least
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one daughter. I am the only sister that has a
son at seventeen. He's the eldest grandchild, and I'm fairly
certain he's my dad's favorite person in the world. They
are best friends. It's adorable. Okay, now that you have
the backstory and family story, let's talk about tonight. My son,
who is very intelligent and absolutely crushed high school, recently
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received his acceptance letter to a very prestigious university full ride.
We are incredibly proud. My folks wanted to throw him
a little congratulatory party and tonight work for all of
our schedules, which is no small feed for different families
with eleven kids between them, so we all headed to
the folks house for pizza and cake. At one point,
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Amy brought up that it is sibling Appreciation Day and
Mom said she wanted all of her girls to say
what we appreciate about our sisters, and we go from
youngest to eldest. Most of the compliments went to me,
is I was kind of a second mom to them.
I told each of my sisters how much I love them,
among other things, and then finished my speech of saying
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something like, and I really appreciate that we didn't have
any gross boys stinking up our house. All of us
but Beth and her husband laugh. Beth's eyes got really big,
and her husband, Chase looked at me like I was
saying something he scraped off the bottom of his shoe.
Suddenly he says, that's really effed up. I said something like,
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I don't know, Chase, I smelled you after workouts. It's
pretty bad. And he got even more mad and said,
how could you talk about Tyler like that? And Beth
starts losing her mind. Guys, She's grabbing him by the
arm and begging him to hush, saying they need to
go home now, etc. So naturally, I'm like, who is Tyler? Well, friends,
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apparently Tyler is Beth's twin that died during childbirth. In
this version of events, Tyler's death made our folks int
A so depressed that nobody is allowed to speak of
him or reference him. Ever, Beth forbade him from ever
mentioning to any family member. After Chase told us this,
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nobody said a word. It was so damn tense. Finally,
I just kind of bluntly said, I'm not sure why,
but Beth lied to you about this. I think you
guys should talk about it, but I don't want to
hear anything else about this tonight, as we're here to
celebrate my son. After that, Beth burst into tears and
ran into her old bedroom, with Chase, Mom and Joe
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following her. The party never fully recovered and they took
off pretty shortly after that. I stayed behind to help
clean and so my dad and son could hang out
some more. While I'm doing the dishes, my mom scolded
me pretty harshly about calling Beth a liar. If the
baby shoot fits mother, My dad said I wasn't wrong,
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but I embarrassed Beth. What the hell was I supposed
to do? I was getting chastised over a lie? Absolutely not.
Beth also texted me that I left her over, and
a text from Chase's phone told me I was the
actual liar's sister and everyone knows that Amy is on
my side, but she and Beth always butted heads. Joe
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claims she's neutral, but she also told me I didn't
have to call her out like that. What the hell
was I supposed to do? Just take the lashing? And
why is everyone acting like me? Calling out what I
consider to be a pretty heavy lie is worse than
the lie itself. How do we resolve this situation. I
love my sister so damn much. They are my best friends,
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but this is so weird and so wrong to put
on me. As I said, I read the original five
months ago and I gave my full opinion there. But
the gist of it was that I find Ope, of course,
to not be the Ahle, and that Beth has issues,
and that if Opie was really looking for some sort
of peaceful resolution to this, that she might want to
reach out to Beth. Now, if it's the first time
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listening to this story, what do you think? Let me
know in the comment section, and now let's check out
the community comments. Tricia SF says, I can't imagine any
other response. I really can't. Were you seriously expected to
lie along with her? I think that is shocking, And
Opie responds, I have no idea what she was expecting.
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I have lied for her before, but saying she's at
my house while she's really getting boudoir photos done for
him is not the same as lying about a whole
person who never existed. It's beyond bizarre. Unsolicited advice thirteen says,
your sister dug herself in a weird hole is now mad.
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She has to dig her way out of it, and
it's plazy that anger on you for accidentally handing her
the show. If she wants to blame anyone for being
caught in a lie, she can look in the mirror.
How do you fix it? Your sister has to pull
her head out of her ass and apologize for putting
you all in that position, and then you can think
about apologizing for being blunt about it. But to be honest,
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I don't feel you did anything wrong exactly here. You
had no idea what was going on, why you were
being accused of being a bad person, and literally just
wanted to focus back on your son's achievements. It's not
like you accidentally spilled a secret you were supposed to keep.
Your sister created this entire mess and should probably explain
to you guys why she did it. Jen fifty eight
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seventy two says, I'm kind of impressed that after all
of that, she managed to convince her husband that you
were the liar. Of course, if he still believes her,
he's dumb as a brick. I'd think there is proof
enough on her birth certificate, as it will state she
was a single berth and Dopey responds, I will say
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Chase is not a dummy, and he's typically not malicious,
and although nobody really backed me up about this being
a lie, at least not in front of me, I
think it's pretty obvious that I was telling the truth,
as everyone else was obviously confused, and Death's silent in
the moment. I have not responded to the texts as
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I'm not looking to burned bridges. I've made many mistakes
and my sisters have graciously forgiven me. I'm just flummoxed
and a little hurt and legitimate. Tawel five three four
says this is very weird. I'm confused that why your
parents aren't embarrassed by your sister's behavior, especially trying to
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keep up the lie afterwards and saying you're lying. Is
she mentally okay? Does she have a history of lying?
And Opie responds, we all lied as kids, but I
assumed she grew out of it as an adult. We
also all exhibited some attention seeking behavior, but again age appropriate,
especially for a family with four kids and two parents
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who worked full time. My parents are hippies and very
much live and let live kind vibe, but this feels
icky to me, so I'm a little surprised they're not
more upset about it. Then again, they never punished us
in front of each other, so they could be dealing
with or planning to deal with the situation behind the scenes.
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Either way, Beth is way too old to be making
up debt siblings stories. All right. Well, the community agrees
that'll be is not the ahle. So now let's move
on with the first update to see what happened next. Okay,
I think we have some answers regarding the events that
occurred last night. I do want to tell everyone who
took the time to give advice or kind words, thank you.
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I honestly couldn't read everything. I was and am exhausted,
but I did get an idea of how I wanted
to approach everything thanks to the advice given. I'll get
to the update in a few I just wanted to
answer some frequently asked questions and commentary real quick. One,
this is fake. I wish it was. I really wish
my mom worked in a way where I could make
things up like this. Alas my imagination is lacking. Two.
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Your parents named you after little women. This is probably
partially to blame for the fake comments. These are just
placeholder names I used, as there are four sisters in
that novel. My parents are hippies and gave us some
pretty noticeable names, tragedy names. Who knows If I used
our real names on the off chance any of our
friends read this, they'd know immediately this was our family. Three.
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Beth is continuing to lie and Chase is believing it.
And your mom and Joe threw you under the bus too,
response Chase, I think he knew I was being truthful. Also,
I said that text came from his phone. I was
actually thinking Beth sent it, And that's not Chase's vibe
about Mom and Joe. They didn't throw me under the bus,
but I'll go into more details soon. Four. Is it
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possible my mom had twins and I just forgot or
didn't know about the death. Absolutely not. I was at
all of my sister's berths. I don't remember Joe's, but
I do remember Beths and Amy's. And there were no multiples,
no deaths, no funerals, no depression. Five Your sister is
mentally ill, also the golden child, and you're the scapegoat.
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I'm not about to say my sister is sick, but
I do think she has some issues, as we all do.
There's no golden child and scapegoat in this family. My
parents were and are really good about treating all of
us fairly and equally. Six. The birth certificate will prove it.
It sure would, yes, but I'm not about to try
to strong arm my sister into showing her husband her
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birth certificate. And seven you could have or should have
been more tactful or pulled her aside and not call
her a liar. Had I known that Tyler was my
dead brother, I never would have asked who he was.
Chase and I tease each other a lot, and I
honestly thought he was about to come out with some
kind of funny joke. Allah these nuts. So in response
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to my lack of tact, I don't know. I think
it's pretty lacking intact to make up a whole dead sibling.
And really, facts are facts. She lied, and that's that.
The night was about my son. So I squashed the
issue and chose to move forward, hoping to end the
conversation with as little drama as possible. Okay, So now
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on to the update. After a night of barely sleeping
and my blood pressure dangerously high. I called my mom
this morning, fully ready to let out an emotionally charged
tirade about how I feel they unfairly threw me under
the bus and took Beth's sides when she objectively did
the worst thing. My mom answered the phone, apologizing and
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asked me to just listen. When she and Joe followed
Beth and Chase to Beth's room, Mom did tell Chase
that Tyler was not real and this is an issue
between her and Chase and they should probably leave because
she didn't want the evening ruined. She did get on
to me, but it was mostly out of sympathy and
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empathy for Beth, and she recognized it wasn't okay. She
apologized for that. She spoke with Chase this morning, and Beth,
who is the one who sent me the text from
Chase's phone, finally came clean early this morning after hours
of denying the lie. Something I didn't mention as I
didn't feel it was pertinent to the story is Beth's
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eldest daughter, em isn't Chase's biological daughter. He's been around
since Em was two. Also kind of pertinent is that
Chase is a first responder. He loves to be a hero,
and he's very good in that role. He met Beth
doing victim's advocacy, and as such, I believe they both
view him as saving Beth. This has long been speculated,
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but it's not exactly our place to say anything. And
we all love Chase. He is an amazing person and
Beth is no dummy. She picked up on Chase's hero
complex immediately. It appears that, in an effort to make
herself look more sympathetic, vulnerable, broken, she lied about having
a twin brother that died in childbirth. I guess being
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in an abusive relationship and having a small child just
wasn't enough. She did not have to do that. They've
been together ten years now and not once did she
come clean to me. That proves a clear pattern of
the seat and manipulation. However, I'm not going to speculate
on her mental health problems or reasonings for not coming clean.
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That is for her and her husband to deal with.
Neither of them have called or texted me to apologize,
and I'm honestly unsure if they will. Beth is more
of the rug sweeping type. While I may confront issues
head on type. I will not be cutting my sister
off for this though I love her and at the
end of the day, I just want her to be
happy and healthy. I do hope that this whole issue
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will to rethink some of her life choices and maybe
she can get some therapy. I think we could all
use therapy, to be honest, but that's where we are
right now. My mom did not offer any information about
how Beth and Chase are doing, and I did not ask.
It's not my business. I have not heard from Joe,
but Aby and I have been texting all morning and
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she is being my best good friend right now and
providing a lot of support. Hopefully we can all move
forward and grow together in the future. Thanks again for
the support you all have sent my way. So now
let's jump forward five months to the final update. Well,
a lot has happened in the past months. I read
all your comments multiple times and I heard you. I
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faced some very hard truths about my family and our dynamics,
but mostly I grieved. About a month after I made
my original post, my dad passed away. It was very
unexpected massive stroke. The worst part was my mom was
out of town, so my dad died a life My
son talked to him that same day, they made plans
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for the next week, and then my dad was gone.
It's been a very hard few months. I started therapy
mostly to deal with navigating life without my dad. But
my therapist made a lot of good points about our
family dynamic, mostly that I was parentified and a people pleaser,
that keeping the peace comes at a price, and that
price was my needs being put on the back burner,
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and as a result, I keep people at arms link
because of this. And I'll be damned if she wasn't right.
So let's rewind a little. During the week or so
after Dad died, Mom was lost. They've been married over
forty years, so no surprise there, and as the eldest sibling,
I stepped up big time. Joe and I already knew
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a little about our parents and of life wishes, and
we chose to go forward with cremation. Mom agreed this
is her wish, as well as did Amy. Guess who didn't.
If you guessed Beth, you'd be right. She had a
complete meltdown, wailing over how she couldn't stand the thought
and will not allow it and blah blah, blah. This
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is probably the first instance of me shutting her eyes down.
I told her in no uncertain terms that this wasn't
her choice, it was our father's preference, and it was
happening regardless. Next, she was wandering through the house trying
to pick out crap she wanted before Mom had even
given us her blessing. When she started, Mom asked her
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to please stop, let her sort some stuff first, and
then she will give us a yes or no. When
Beth asked why she needed to sort out, Mom mentioned
dad's watch collection. There was one specifically for my son,
and when Beth inquired as to which one, Mom refused
to answer. Beth insisted that wasn't fair, she should have
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first pick. Blah blah blah. Mom and Joe apparently shut
that crap down with a quickness. I wasn't there, but
my son is now wearing the first luxury watch my
dad ever bought, and he is so proud. Don't worry, though,
all the grants have something special. Next, she got absolutely
plastered at his end of life ceremony, went around wailing
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and making literally the whole thing about her grief and
how her wishes weren't respected, and before I could snap,
and believe me, I was this close. Chase dragged her
ass out of the venue, and I'm not sure what happened,
but when they got home, police were called, Beth was arrested,
and my niece ended up with my mom for the night.
My brother in law did have some bruises to bag
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him up. Despite Beth calling us, nobody bailed her ass out.
We are just done with it. She did get released
on her own recognissance and only ended up with some
community service and a fine. Chase was more than willing
to do therapy with her, but she started drinking even
more and as a result, is being more aggressive with
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both him and the kids. There was another situation and
long story show Chase is divorcing her and petitioning for
full custody. He has asked us to write letters on
his behalf, and I believe all of us are going
to do so. I don't know what is going on
with my sister, but she is on a downward spiral
and it's so sad to see she refuses to speak
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with anyone, and I'm just done trying. I'd already decided
to cut her off after the BS at Dad's end
of life, ceremony, but this solidified it. I won't be
updating again. I'm washing my hands of all of this.
I hope my sister gets help, but it'll take a
lot of work, and she's never been wont to want
to put in the work. I'm putting myself first for
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once and concentrating on my children, my husband, and myself.
Thanks for listening to me, Ben, you'll are almost as
good as therapy. Well be of course, it's sad, but
you can't help somebody who doesn't want the help, and
you're right to put yourself and your family first. Hopefully
someday she will get her life on track or have
some sort of epiphany and change of ways, and that's
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her life now, not yours. So here switching you the
best of pee. Thanks for sharing and take care and
now let's finish this video with a mood booster post.
This post is from the subreddit malicious Compliance, and it's
by user paper and dud LESCo Management said we had
to work eight am five pm Eastern time, so we
did and let them deal with explaining to our California
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clients why we weren't available. So this happened a while
ago before remote work was even a concept. Think two
thousand and eight ish. I was working at a large
media agency, and for anyone who knows agency work, we
typically work around our clients schedule, or at least as
best as possible. We were based in New York City
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but had California clients, so it was pretty standard that
we'd get in at ten am and leave seven or
eight pm. If you stayed to nine pm, you could
take a car service home, so we sometimes just did that.
Most of us were in our twenties, No big deal,
we're in Our new CEO started he was used to
working in Europe and hate it that we weren't in
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the office at eight am, and forced a company policy
that we had to be in the office from eight
am to five pm. We of course followed the rules
because who wouldn't want to leave it five Let's just
say the policy was lifted within two weeks when our
West Coast clients couldn't get in touch with us. Well,
I guess that CEO learned some overdue foresight. Thanks for sharing, op,
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