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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody, and welcome back to lost genre Reddit stories.
This post is from the subredded Almighty a Hole and
it's by user shoddygot lolo am id a hole for
telling my mom and aunt they can't be at the
hospital for the birth of our daughter over a cake recipe.
My forty male, very pregnant wife thirty six female is
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one of the purest women I know. She doesn't have
a mean or malicious bone in her body. My mother
and my aunt are second first generation Americans, as my
grandmother and grandfather met in a concentration camp during World
War Two and were liberated and came to America. Because
of this, they have developed a close bond. Both my
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maternal grandparents have long been deceased. Now down to the story.
My wife bakes on the side and my family asks
her to bake for them all the time. They pay
her and they get their baked goods. Mom and aunt
have asked my wife to recreate my grandma's carrot cake
recipe on many occasions. My wife has done this down
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to perfect detail, and even my mom and aunt have
said it might be better than my grandma's. Now down
to what caused me to blow up My aunt was
having a birthday party at her work and asked my
wife to bake two dozen cupcakes after the party. My
aunt said they were a hit and probably your best
batch yet, but did you change something in the recipe?
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They were lighter and even more moist than the last
couple of times you've have made them for us. My
wife responded, nope, followed the recipe on my fridge as
I always do, and my aunt said, no, I know
my mom's cupcakes and you have made them perfectly before.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This time.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
You had to have used a different recipe your ingredient.
Did you use cake flour this time? My wife said, no,
this is even the same bag of flower I used
the last time. My aunt says, no, I know you
did something this time. I know my mom's recipe and
this is not her recipe. I told my wife to
drop it, as it was going nowhere and was starting
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to irritate her.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
My mom texted us later, what did you do to
the cupcakes? We want to know so that the next
time we make them, we know what to do to
make them taste just as good.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
My wife responded with everything she had said before.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I told my mother to drop it.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That she just read the recipe and went with it
as she always does a few days later, I caught
my wife staring at the recipe on the fridge, reading
the recipe and asking out loud what she possibly could
have done different this last go around. I could see
she was upset, so I messaged my mom and aunt
that they needed to apologize to her because they ultimately
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were calling my wife a liar. My mom said, we
didn't say those words. That's rude and upsetting. You would
think we're calling her a liar. Apologize to Usring this
back and forth, my wife had made the comment to
me that she would be okay if they weren't at
the hospital during the birth. After a little bit of
back and forth of me being what I feel gaslighted
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by them saying they are not calling my wife a liar,
I said, well, until you can apologize to her for
calling her a liar, don't visit the hospital when she
gives birth. We are not telling you the day we're
going in for delivery until you do. This has set
a chain of events off in my family. My sisters
agree with me, but my mom, aunt and their friends
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have reached out saying I crossed a line. Even my
wife has said that that's a little extreme, but when
she asked to talk to me about it, she says
she respects my opinion, So reddit am I the a hole?
I keep being told it's petty to have this much
of a blow up over a cupcake recipe, but I
feel that it's disrespectful to my wife. She says she's
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not that upset. But as I said above, I cut
you reading the recipe on the fridge and talking to
herself about it throughout the days. I don't want my
mom and aunt's behaviors to continue through to our daughter,
and I fear that they may do something similar to
her down the line. This is how they've always been,
will be. I don't think you're the ahle because, well,
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you're standing up for your wife. You're defending her, which
I think is the right thing to do in this case. Sure,
technically your mom and aunt didn't say you're a liar,
but they were implying it, which is basically the same thing. However,
the whole reason why this thing started, I think is
ridiculous because there's so many things that could have happened.
Maybe your wife used the same ingredients but changed the
process a little bit and that changed the flavor, or
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maybe your aunt ate something before having a cupcake and
that made the cupcake have a different taste. Regardless of
all of that, does it really matter? In my opinion,
it doesn't. Now My question is why would your mom
and your aunt be there for the delivery. It should
just be you and your wife and they get to
meet the baby when you guys say it's okay to
do so. So if I were in your shoes, I
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would just say to everybody, Okay, how about we let
go of the cupcake thing. But you guys are still
not invited to be at the delivery. We'll let you
know when you can come by to visit, and that's it.
What do you guys think? Let me know in the
comment section, and now let's check out the community comments.
Agoraphobe nine to six one says, not the ahle, It's
not about the cake recipe. It's about them disrespecting and
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bullying your wife. Since your mom and aunt have the recipe,
tell them from now on they can make it themselves
if they don't want to believe your wife. New Prairie
Girl says it could have been as simple as the
freaking temperature or humidity that day, beat the mix, and
extra thirty seconds. Maybe the eggs were fresher than normal.
There are so many variables when it comes to baking.
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For them to harp about you must have done something
is ridiculous. They should apologize that they were perhaps rude.
You are bringing a new life into the family. Don't
let it be tainted by something this silly. What happened
Monday says quote. I don't want my mom and aunt's
behaviors to continue through do our daughter, and I fear
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that they may do something similar to her down the line.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
This is how they've always been end quote.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So your reaction is to a pattern of guas lighting
disrespect they have always exhibited.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is about a lot more than cupcakes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think you should discuss this with your wife, and
both of you should decide on boundaries as a couple.
I take it you have seen the pattern your whole
life and she is new to it. Not the A
hole and major distance forty two to seventy says wait.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Do you mean in the delivery room?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Hell no, you don't need an audience for that intimate moment,
And Opie responds, my wife's mom is twenty five hundred
miles away from us, and my mom and her have
a very close relationship. So my wife asked if the
hospital will allow it, if she could be in the room.
My aunt is trying to get into the room Opie's edit. Hey,
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with all due respect, I appreciate the comments, but I
know my wife better than anyone commenting. The comments of
making the decision without consulting her are baseless. While we
didn't have the exact conversation and she didn't ask my
family to not be there, I know what she was
thinking because we communicate. It's like how you don't ask
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someone to marry you unless you know the answer is yes.
Think along the same lines. My wife is also since
then told me she was okay with uninviting them from
going to the hospital. Edit too, I respect all of
your answers. I definitely understand where my outbursts cost a problem.
I'm going to apologize to my mother and tell her
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that she needs to respect my wife a little more.
And while she may not feel she did wrong, my
wife took it a certain way and that you can't
help how people feel. I agree that she's the innocent
one in all of this, and I appreciate all the
positive words directed her way, even if there were not
so kind words directed to me.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
My wife has felt kind of like a celebrity tonight,
and we have joined together in laughing in some of
the comments. She hopes that her carrot cake recipe doesn't
result in any family feuds. I especially appreciate those that
gave advice. I read through each and every one of them,
and we had a great conversation surrounding some things you
all said. Final edit today was crazy. Wife approached me
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and thanked me because she was trying to find a
way to approach the subject about wanting her privacy at
the hospital. She said that while this chain of events
didn't go the way she planned, it ended with the
results she wanted. She had thought maybe I wanted them
there at the hospital and was waiting for the right
time to talk to me, But really, who would want
this family there? Family had been told that decision is final.
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Brother in law accused me of in six thousand years
of family bond, I am the one to break that tradition.
Thank you all. I appreciate the ones who said I
have first world problems. I'm glad and fortunate enough that
this is my biggest problem. And thank you all so
much for the baby well wishes. We're over the moon
about this little girl. Have a great life, y'all. So
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the community agreed that OPI was not the a whole,
and apart from some flag from the brother in law,
this problem seems to be kind of solved. However, we
do have an update to this story that is two
years after the original post, so let's move on with
that to see how this story ends. Hey everyone, I
know this update is long past due, but I wanted
to come back and thank you all from the bottom
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of my heart for the support, encouragement, and kind words
you said. When I originally posted, I was completely blown
away by how many people connected with this story and yes,
everything was absolutely real.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The post made it into a podcast, which gave me
a brief moment of minor internet celebrity status, something I
never expected from talking about carrot cake, cupcakes and family drama.
As for the cupcakes, my wife was genuinely thrilled that
so many of you tried to the recipe and loved it.
It meant the world to her knowing she could bring
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a little Joe into people's lives with something that's always
been special to her. She did want me to clarify
one thing. She always adds one tablespoon of vanilla to
the recipe, but it wasn't written down at the time.
One of the questions came up about maybe she didn't
at a tablespoon of vanilla. When I told her I
was sharing the recipe, she told me if I were
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to share the recipe, I needed to include that as
it was the important part, just it was never written down.
I also really appreciate that there were no negative remarks
about my wife in the original post comments. She truly
was the innocent one in all of this. She later
told me that while she didn't want to outright say
she preferred just the two of us at the hospital,
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she dropped subtly enough, hence hoping I'd figure it out.
Even though things blew up the way they did. In hindsight,
I think it ended up being exactly what we both
wanted regarding the family situation. No, oh, they weren't at
the hospital when our daughter was born. We stuck to
our guns about nobody being there except for the two
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of us. We ended up needing an emergency C section anyways,
and our babies spent time in the NICU, where there
were strict visitor rules in place, so them coming would
have been mood unless they wanted to wait twenty four
hours at the hospital just for a glimpse. They went
radio silent after that, which honestly wasn't surprising. Our daughter
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is happy, healthy, and we've just celebrated her first birthday.
She is the absolute light of our lives. Since her birth,
we've had ongoing issues around boundaries. Whenever my wife and
I make decisions big or small about our daughter's life,
certain family members go silent or act distant. I've had
to remind them more than once that there's my family,
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my wife's family, and the family we've built together, and
within our family, my wife and I talk through everything
and make joint decisions about how we are raising our daughter.
So that's how it is and how it's going to be.
Thanks again for all the kindness and support. It really
meant a lot during a pretty emotional time. Well ap
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he congratulations, and it sounds like you guys are doing
all right. I mean you're definitely setting down firm boundaries
and you're making them be respected, so good for you.
And on that note, here's vishin you the best ope,
thanks for sharing and to take care. And now let's
move on to the next post that also has an update.
This post is from the subredded amighty a hole and
it's by user thick childhood sixty fifty. Would I be
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the a hole to kick my cousin's brother in law,
wife and two kids out of my mom's house? So
here's the deal. My cousin, female twenty eight, rents two
rooms for her husband and daughter at my mom's house.
That is not the problem. The problem is that her
husband male thirty two, has his brother, wife and two
kids staying there since the end of January. No one
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came to my mom six for permission to stay there,
and my mom and I thought they would be there
for a few days, maybe a week, to visit, but no,
it does not seem so, and so many things have
gone down since them being there, Like the brother in
law's wife, let's call her Katie, has been washing every
single day only a couple clothes every load, using all
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laundry detergents up without replacing them, not paying any utility
bills water, gas, electric, et cetera. Kids ruining my mom's
house by their lack of parenting in their toddlers.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean so many things.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Of all this, I have talked to my mom obviously,
because she vents to me how stressed she is about
this to try and kick them out because for one,
no permission of being there, and no one's paying for crap. Now,
I just found out that this guy is running away
from either the law or a drug lord. So this
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family living in Phoenix, Arizona. They had or have an
apartment there, and he was dealing drugs of some sort
and some deal went wrong and literally dropped everything and
left their home. They thought going to my cousin's husband
was the right thing to do, which, given if he
had his own home, yes that's correct, but he doesn't.
Now he's putting everyone at risk and living pretty much
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rent free with his whole family. Now I want to
say something and kick them out myself, because my mom
is too good of a person. I've already tried giving
my mom an ultimatum, like I won't bring my kids
around her house unless they are completely kicked out, but
she hasn't. It's been like two weeks since I've told
my mom to talk to them, but she hasn't. So
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would I be the a hole? Well, you know, I
don't think you'd be the a hole. I mean, your
mom is definitely stressed out, but she won't do anything
about it. I think you need to talk to your
cousin and to tell them that she needs to get
them out of the house.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Let me know in the comment section and now let's
check out the community comments. Nana Bananafo Fana says, not
the ahole. If he's either wanted by the law or
buy the mob, he is a danger to the entire household.
If the cops come and bust down the door in
a raid, they don't fix anything they break, They just
ransack the house looking for contraband. Now if it's the
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other people looking for him, crap's gonna hit the fan.
You do have a couple of options here. You can
evict them, or you can tell law enforcement where to
find them. Your mother does not deserve this heartache. Good
luck to you all. Mystic Wanderer fifteen says, Honestly, it
sounds like your cousin's brother in law has turned your
mom's home into an episode of Survivor Family Edition. And
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let's be real, who knew that washing clothes could become
a full time job At this rate? Katie might as
well open a laundromat with all those daily loads. Big
Tomorrow twenty one eighty seven says, I would just invite
the police over, let them know you're doing so that
lets them have the opportunity to get the f out
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and Miconna nineteen sixty seven says, not the ahole. This
is an odd situation. But why is cousin's husband and
his daughter renting from Opie's mom. They aren't even related
to Opie or the mom only married to the cousin.
Are they separated? Is this why they don't live together?
A conversation with the cousin is in order explain that
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the arrangement is no longer working. Her husband has moved
his brother, wife and kids into the house with no
conversation or contribution. Opie's mom tried to help by renting
the two rooms because of the cousin, but it has
gotten out of hand. She needs to talk to him.
If not, then they all need to move out. Six
people in two rooms is too much. All the utilities
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are going to skyrocket. Katie needs to realize it's not
her house. She probably figures she's going to abuse it
all since it's free to her. Opie, is there a
lease or border agreement? If not, then start the eviction
process for all of them. Name the husband and daughter
and the other family in the eviction. This will give
Mom thirty days. The eviction should be proved because having
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six people in two rooms is not recommended. Explain the
drug aspect that will get the ball rolling too, and
Opie responds, just to be clear, it's my cousin's daughter
with her husband, and my niece is basically sleeping in
the living room, not in the room with the idiots.
If this makes things clearer, all right, Well, the community
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agrees Opie would not be the equal and that she
does need to get them out of their as soon
as possible. Now, OPI has given us two updates, but
I've curated them into one, so let's move on with
that to see how this story ends. Since I've posted this,
it gave me more confidence to sit down with my
mom once again and talk to her about this situation.
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I told her that I made this post on Reddit,
and everyone gave me insights and more of a clear
black and white picture of what could happen. She finally
realized what big deal this guy staying at her house is,
so over this past weekend, she talked to my cousin
and her husband and told them they needed to be
out and out of curiosity if they knew what Katie
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and her husband's plant were the in laws and they
knew nothing. They also questioned them and they in laws
had no clue. So my mom finally took action and
told them they needed to be out because she can't
be dealing with this amount of stress on her and
all bills piling up. So my cousin talked with her
in laws and told them they need to be out now.
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I did ask my mom by when would they be out,
and she did not give them a by when date.
I told her she can't expect them to leave soon
if they don't have an eviction date since they've shown
no signs of leaving. She did say she would promise
to actually tell them by hopefully this next weekend coming up.
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Final update twelve days after my last update. As of today,
finally they are gone. It took a while, but thankfully
my sisters and I didn't have to take the reins
on my mom's household. Katie husband Katie's husband had left
two days ago to pick up their car from a
different state so they could finally leave my mom's house.
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Two weekends ago, my cousin finally spoke to Katie about
my mom's feelings about them being at her house, rent
builds food for free, and how her home, which took
years and even my dad to pass away, to finally
feel like a home and peaceful have an only for
them to come and destroy the peace and her furniture.
I'm glad that this is all over. However, I'm not
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too happy with my cousin and her husband and how
they also handled and not handled the situation from the
very beginning. But like in the Wizard of Oz would say,
ding dong, the witch is gone. Well, after all the
stress that they caused, they're finally gone. So that's a positive.
Of course. Good for you for talking to your mom
and getting this whole thing started. So on that note,
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here's wishing you guys all the best, take care and
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