September 11, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode of Louisiana Unfiltered, Kiran Chawla and Megyn Kelly discuss the alarming rise of the 764 group, a nihilistic violent extremist network targeting children online. They explore the dangers posed by online games like Roblox, the importance of parental involvement, and strategies for monitoring children's online activities.
Chapters
05:59 Online Gaming and Grooming
12:02 Monitoring and Protecting Children Online
18:00 Navigating the Complexities of Online Platforms
24:14 The Importance of Trust and Respect in Parenting
29:12 Protecting Our Children in a Digital Age
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Chapters
05:59 Online Gaming and Grooming
12:02 Monitoring and Protecting Children Online
18:00 Navigating the Complexities of Online Platforms
24:14 The Importance of Trust and Respect in Parenting
29:12 Protecting Our Children in a Digital Age
Local Sponsors for this episode include:
Neighbors Federal Credit Union:
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Sound and Editing for this audio podcast by Envision Podcast Production:
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It's a danger lurking right at your fingertips, but the
predator is targeting your child. It's the digital era our
kids are living in today and how parenting has been
forced to evolve today. We are discussing an extremist group
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that formed just five years ago and has since spread
its reach not only across all of the United States,
but across the globe, targeting kids as young as nine
years old. It's called seven six four and get this.
Every FBI field office in the United States has actively
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worked these cases and they are still currently investigating them.
In this episode, we break down what seven six four is,
how it works, and what you as a parent need
to be looking out for and how to get involved.
I'm Kieran Challa and this is Louisiana Unfiltered Welcome back everyone.
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This week we are joined by one of our amazing reporters,
Megan Kelly. Meghan, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thank you for having me. Love being here.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I want to get right to it. First off,
I want to kind of explain to our listeners that
this is something a subject matter that you have been
actually fighting for since May of this year. And so
the process with us when we do news with Unfiltered
with Kirian is we every morning decide what we're going
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to do for the day and what we're in September.
So it's been four months that you have not let
this story go. And usually when we can't turn a
story within a week, two, three weeks, four or five weeks,
we finally move on. But this one, Megan, you refuse
to move on. So I kind of want to hear
from you that how did you hear about it? And
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then why did you refuse to let it go?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So I'm a mom, I have kids and thirteen, nine
and four and things like along this topic really get
to me. Right. I'm also in Enneagram six if you
know about that. I'm the one who's like always analytpicool
and always trying to figure things out and always have
a backup plan for every crisis. So my brain always
is in that mode. But I think it was in
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one of our conversations in one of our meetings that
Daniel brought up about this group, the online group called
seven sixty four that was a terror group, a new
terror group that exists, and they basically are online terrorizing children.
And then we started looking into it and researching it
and trying to reach out to the FBI and all
this stuff, and it just overwhelmed me at the unbelievable
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amount of terror that is out there for our young
kids in games that they're playing every single day, and
also on social media outlets as well. And you know,
the heart of the heart of this is to alert
parents and to alert guardians, to let them know this
is something that you really need to think about and
really need to understand and learn about.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And Megan, just excuse me. A few weeks ago we
were talking about roadblocks. The Attorney General did this big
presentation along with the sheriff in Livingston Parish that she's
now filed suit against roadblocks. So I'm gonna go ahead
and say this. I wasn't very familiar with roadblocks. I
don't have kids. So when we're saying, hey, they're they're
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targeting kids through video games, my brain goes to Nintendo
and Sega and no, I'm dating myself here, but you
know what I'm talking about, Megan, Nintendo sixty four, Sega Genesis,
Like those were the cool games back when we were kids.
But of course, like I haven't done it yet, so
I don't have the experience with roadblocks. And then I
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think when you even explained it to me, because you
even wrote those articles, I was, I have to say,
shocked to learn how all this worked. And now to
add this to the mix, it's a very scary world
for parents nowadays, it's a.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Very scary world. And here's the thing, Like you mentioned Nintendo,
to me, nothing's better than Mario Kart and Duck Hunt, Like,
it doesn't get much better than that, you know, That's it.
I tap out after that. But now our kids are
playing these games online. So when we were back in
the day, we would have friends come over to our house.
Our parents knew who those friends were. We'd sit in
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front of the TV, shoot the ducks, play Mario Kart whatever,
and then we go on about our life. Right. Well,
now kids are doing the same thing, but they're playing
against anyone online, right And most of those people they
assume to be their friends, and I'm sure a lot
of them are, you know. But if you aren't aware
of what's happening, bad people are also playing these games,
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and they are targeting your children. You know. Now, yes,
there are ways to protect them. But if you are
unaware and you don't understand the seriousness of this and
the gravity and how these games work, then you leave
yourself susceptible to terrorists, pedophiles. These games can be a
pedophiles playground. It really can. And that's just the truth
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of the matter. So I do understand the heart behind
why the Attorney General decided to file suit against Rodblocks.
I do understand heart, and I will say that to
be fair, I deeply appreciate that someone in that position
takes the time and the heart to care about our
kids enough to fight for them. Right. So let me
just say that first, I will say, there's a butt coming,
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Oh it's coming.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's not a but it's an also or an and
and also at the core of it, whenever I take
my kids to McDonald's. I can go there all day
long and I can hope that they have something healthy
on their menu, and I can even tell them you
really need to have something healthy on your menu. But
at the end of the day, it's up to me
if I'm bringing my kids there or not. It's up
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to me if I'm going to feed those things. Because
McDonald's does not have to change, Roadblocks does not have
to change. As we can see these places do not
have to Roadblocks has actually done a lot of things
to protect kids, like now you have to have a
parental account to go with your child. So they have
made steps too fixing that. Is there more that they
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can do? Absolutely yes, But at the end of the day,
it comes down to our and you know, our interests
in our kids and what's happening with our kids.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well and Megan, I want to talk a little more
in depth about the uh what parents can do, because
to me it is one of those of what all
can a parent do? If it's all done on your
cell phone and if a child is going in and
deleting a text message, how can a parent get to it?
But I want to come back to that. What I
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really want to start on is tell us what is
seven six for?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, So seven six y four is a nihilistic, violent
extremist network. That is what they are called. Now what
world does that big word mean? Essentially, when you think
about terrorist groups, most terrorist groups are racially motivated or
have an ideology of some sort of religious religion or
anything of sort. And that's there. When you're looking at
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a nihilistic group, they're basically a group that is not
out there with any agenda. They're just out there with
the sole intent of destroying humanity. That's it. They just
want to see the downfall of people. So these people
have no boundaries and that is what makes them so extreme,
and that's what makes them so scary.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I want to make sure let's double down on this.
This is not a group that's religion based or they're
not racist. They're not I know, they're going to be extremist.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Say the word.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Obviously, I have not heard of that, So we're going
to explain what that word is as well. But this
is not a hey, I can't stand this specific religion
or I don't like this group. This is we just
don't like mankind exactly. We're just out here to create havoc.
That's it, pure and simple, and this is the quickest
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way we can do it is to target children.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's just the truth. And when we say children, we're
talking the lowest ages, youngest victims like nine years old
now nine years old, all the way up to high school.
That is what they're out here. Seven sixty four is
the area code of Stevensville, Texas, and that is where
this group originated from. And right now, this is what
really caught my eye. Right now, they have more than
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two hundred and fifty investigations. Every FBI jurisdiction is fighting
the seven sixty four, So that means everyone in our
state fifty five different FBI offices or fields, and each
one are dealing with seven six four.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And I want to make sure I say this Megan,
that we're not obviously just making this information up. You
waited four months to get an interview you with the
FBI on this report in order for us to put
it out, and in fact, we just put out the
report Wednesday night, So please go back and read that
if you haven't read that one in depth. And then
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we also have links to the roadblock story that Megan wrote.
She's written several, including victims we've had locally, So all
those links are going to be in this podcast as well.
But we go check out Unfiltered with Carean dot com. So, Megan,
I want to go back number one. We were talking
about the word. Explain what that word means to me.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I'm just going to read it directly to you.
It says nihilistic violent extremist network is decentralized group of
individuals who engage in criminal and violent acts driven by
hatred of society and a desire for its collapse. These
networks different from traditional extremist groups in that the primary
motivation is not based on a coherent political, social, or
religious ideology, but rather on a deep sense of meaningless
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pessimism and despair.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So we're targeting literally anybody and everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Anybody and everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And like the people who are going, I guess are
organizing it. Who is the day?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is a group? Now, there was a man who
was arrested in the last year who they said was
the head of the group. Now it's still continue yes,
so it's still continued. He was arrested on the East coast,
so he was arrested. But the group is huge now
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and they have brought in other people and added and
so it is something that has not stopped because they've
gotten the Queen Bee.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So okay, Megan, walk me through the process. I mean,
how do I know that my child is a victim
or could be a victim? That are they targeting me
through the video games? How does this work?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right? So let's let's break it down how they work.
What they do is they identify a child or person
and they're online in these games. First and foremost you
need to kind of understand how roadblocks works. We're just
gonna talk about roadblocks. There are others like Fortnite and
these other things, but I'm just going to focus on
the roadblots and right now to keep it simple because
they're all kind of similar. With roadblocks. If you get
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on there right now and you try and find my child,
my child has a private account, but most of them
do not have private accounts. So you can friend that child,
you can start playing in a game with the child,
and you can build relationships. You guys can be chatting,
you can send messages, you can do all this kind
of stuff. You cannot FaceTime, like you and I are
talking right now. For that you would then need to
add in a different app similar to Discord. Discord is
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an app where you can get online and you can
be talking to somebody and then playing games at the
same time. Okay, so they connect with roadblocks, they're talking
for a while and the stuff. They're building relationships, and
they're really grooming these kids. If you go back and
look at one of our stories that we wrote before
about a Denim Springs mom whose child was groomed and
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they send him tickets to Florida and it's gonna fly
him off to Florida, Like these are the things that happen.
That grooming process happened over the course of three or
four months, right, So at some point in there. The
way most of it works is they will convince a
child to send them incriminating photos, okay, like send me
sex pictures or pictures of yourself or something that's going
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to bring great shame. They thrive on shame, and once
your child or person sends this picture over, they now
have leverage over you and they will then convince you
to do things like you should kill yourself, you should
cut yourself, you should hurt your dog and kill your
petz or even kill your parents. I mean it is serious, sadistic, wild,
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diabolical things. It's not just six four not roadblocks, correct,
this is seven sixty four using tools like roadblocks and
discord to reach your children.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So let's back up Megan and again, I mean, I'm
hoping that they're some of our listeners if they don't
know this subject at all, Like I kind of, I
was upfront with you. I wasn't aware of it, which
is why I felt that it needed to be a
podcast that if I'm not aware of this at all,
I'm assuming there are going to be others out there
who are not aware of it. And maybe it's a
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grandparent who doesn't know. So maybe a child gets on
roadblocks when they're at their grandparents' house. But when you're
saying that you can get on discord and see the
person face to face, well, in that very moment, wouldn't
it give away Hey, this person you thought you were
talking to as a child.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're absolutely right. However, there's ai now you know, and
you can change that. You can change the way you look,
you can alter the way your voice sounds. And maybe
they do get on there and they're just talking with
voice and not video and they say I can only
talk to you through voice because my mom won't let
me do video, and another child will say, oh, okay,
that's fine, we'll just keep talking. There are many ways
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these people use to target your kids, right, So discord
is not just video. You can just get on the
or just like zoom, you know, or a FaceTime call.
If you're on a call but you really don't want
to be seeing because your hair looks whack, you know,
then you just turn off the video. So there are
ways to get into, you know, the mind of your
child and to make build these communication and these things
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with your kids. One thing that you just said, and
this this is such a passion thing. I'm trying to
like balance reporter me and mom me here and like
be balanced. One thing you said was what if parents
don't know? What if they're with their grandparents? Okay, I
sent you a video just the other day of an
ad where they were saying yeah. But the whole point
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of the ad was, Hey, these things are happening, people
are reaching out. But at the very first sentence of
the ad said right now behind closed doors this okay,
stop the.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Child in the room by themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Everything that's wrong with this situation is why is the
child behind closed doors with a device? Why?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But Megan, it is a very fine line for a
parent because think about think back at thirteen, maybe we
did go to our rooms. I mean, again, we're aging ourselves.
But phone, having a phone in your bedroom was pretty
cool at thirteen years old, and now everything's on a
cell phone. So we were allowed to go to our
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rooms at thirteen. So in that sense, like maybe a
parent feels okay, well I was allowed to do it.
But what we're trying to point out to you is
that it's just not safe, especially if your child is
behind the closed door for thirty minutes or an hour.
That is more than enough time for your child to
be groomed.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh oh my goodness. Yes, And let's be clear and like,
we are not living in the days that we were
thirteen years old. No, we just had a phone and
could call the neighbor. You know, we are not living
in that time anymore. Those days are gone. I like
to say, when we were growing out, when we were
baking in the oven, we were baking at a nice
three hundred and fifty. Maybe our parents were baking at
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one hundred and fifty our kids come straight out and
they're in the fire at like nine hundred degrees. It
ain't no joke, It's true. It is not the same
world that we used to live in. So to be honest,
like if it's your house, your kid doesn't need to
be in their room with a phone, with a computer,
with any of that, in a room that can be
closed off by themselves. They have to be in a
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public area that in itself stops a large percentage of
this because when you're hearing it, you can ask questions.
When my kids are playing Fortnite, they played on the
TV and we all hear it. And the things sometimes
that I hear from other kids that are talking, I'm
wondering are their parents on the other end of this
actually listening, And a lot of times they aren't. And
that's how these kinds of terrorists take advantage of your
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kids because a you're tired, A you want to give
them a device and get some silence in the home,
you know, and you just okay, fine, go to your room,
just whatever, and they take advantage of that and while
your kids are just in the room, like you have
an alarm on your house to keep out predators, but
you give your child a device that invites the entire
world into your home and let them go off alone.
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That is the core of these issues.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And it's a very scary world out there because all
you need is this.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And despite parental controls and Megan, let's go back to
Roadblocks for just a quick minute. And this is important
to point out with the lawsuit that for a long while,
like Roadblocks, didn't have any tools in place, so you
could message somebody and this is all from what I understand.
You could message somebody and it had an algorithm to
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pick up, like hey, if something, if the word snapchat
maybe picks up, or or mail or something like that.
So the predators now know that Snapchat picks up. But
maybe you're trying to say, hey, let's switch to snapchat.
Instead of saying snapchat, you spell it backwards. The algorithm
does not pick it up, and now you have your
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person and the kids nowadays know what it is spelled backwards,
so they're going to snapchat with you. In this case
actually did happen in Livingston Parish, which is why the
press conference was held in Livingston Parish. So this is
not me making this up. This actually did happen in Livingston,
and the guy was spelling it backwards and having the
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child meet them on Snapchat, and that's how they went
back and forth. So hence the lawsuit from the Attorney
in General. But at the end of the day, it
goes right back to your analogy with McDonald's, Meghan, that
you can sit there and suggest all of this. You
got the Attorney General of Louisiana filing suit. Who knows
how many other officials have filed suit against roadblocks. It's
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up to Roadblocks to make some changes. Granted it appears
they are making it. But and I'll even give them
the benefit of doubt, Megan, I'm sure whoever created roadblocks
they they may not even even thought about this aspect
of it. They haven't. Maybe they just thought, hey, in
the day and age we're living out, this would be
fun to do games and we've been talking about roadblocks.
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to learn It's basically, you can create your own little
worlds in this So if I want to create a
world that's full of skittles, and when you collect all
the red skittles you move on to the next level,
sweet and innocent. But there are worlds in here that
are Epstein related. There's what else, Meghan.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, there are very very explicit games within Roadblocks, and
that is what the Attorney General was fighting. She's saying.
There are Epstein versus based games. There are games in
there where you can go in there and actually like
do sexual things with the other player. It does exist
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in Roadblocks. Not gonna lie. That is real. It does
happen if you have a full open account, right Like
my kids, we all play Roadblocks in here together. Actually
hate play video games. Better just do it because my
kids are involved, but I really do. It drives me nuts.
But there are those things in our house. Our kids
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have private accounts. They have accounts set to their age range,
which then eliminates Epstein stuff, and they own. The only
friends that they have are friends that we have approved,
which means they are people that we have actually met
in person, that we know in person. Every week we
go through and have a friend check because sometimes friends
get at it and then we go and delete. So
you have to be like involved in it. Roadblocks has
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taken a step and if you're going to if your
child's going to make an account and they're thirteen, they
can't make that account unless a parent account is made
and attached to it, you know. So they have taken
that step and trying to tighten things down. Now, what
the Attorney General and others are suggesting is like, maybe
they use a license to verify your age, because some
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kids will go in there and say they're eighteen, you know,
and if there aren't any parents patrolling it, then they
can just create their account because who's to stop them, right,
So that does happen. Again, I appreciate that the AG
has taken the steps. Also, they're doing the same thing
in California, which blew me away that California is also
cracking down on roadblocks as well, and I think that's
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wonderful that they take the steps to care. I also
think some of that money that's going into the lawsuit
could also be put into educating parents who are actually
in the home.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, and again, a lot of this to me is educating.
One thing I love about journalism is I feel like
we're always learning. You can be sent out to cover
a report that you've never ever even heard of in
your life. And to me, this is one of those
subject matters. But it's so important because at the end
of the day, the most valuable asset you have is
your child. Yes, but Megan, some people can argue that
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you're too involved, you're helicopter parenting, And I guess what
do you say to those people?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wait, let me think of a better way to say that.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Okay, I think you're lasting at all.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But yeah, I don't really care what they think. Let
me tell you something. The government does not have to
take care of my kid. McDonald's does not have to
do the right thing on behalf of my kids. Neither
does roadblocks, discord twitch switch, all them other things. Nobody
has to do that. It's up to me and my
husband to set the parameters and to protect our kids.
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God gave us these kids and us the privilege of
guiding them and training them and protecting them, and that
is what we are going to do. If you call
me helicopter, you can call me helicopter all day long. We're
gonna just keep helicopter in because that's what we do.
We give our kids some space and stuff, but we're
in it with them. I could just say no roadblocks
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allowed in his house no devices, which some parents do,
and I fully understand and respect you for it, but
in our house we allow them to have that, but
there are tight parameters in our house, and we are
also on these games too.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And again you said it one hundred times times have
changed to parents, you really can't let go anymore. Majority
of kids do have a phone because hey, practice ended early,
they need to get in touch with you, or school
got canceled. Now they have the way of just contacting
you directly. So a lot of kids do have cell phones,
but it is so important to be in their face.
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And yeah, you can risk being a helicopter parent, or
you can keep your child safe. But Megan, I want
to go back to, like, does it ever morph out
of roadblocks or Snapchat or whatever else into texting that, hey,
what's your cell phone number? I mean I would absolutely, in.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Absolutely it does. So. I mean you imagine if you've
talked to this person for a long time. And this
isn't just exclusive to roadblocks. You know, there's also Fortnite,
there's also YouTube. There's also, like you said, snapchat, TikTok,
There's all these things that are out there for predators
to reach your kids. And they take advantage of our
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parental ignorance. But you know, they can definitely start messaging,
sending messages back and forth, back and forth, and at
some point say, hey, you want to call, do you
want to chat? Do you want to do this? And
after you've talked to somebody for a long time and
you really begin to feel connected with them, why wouldn't
you because this is your friend, These are people that
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care about you.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But Megan, let's go back. One of the things that
I had said that I want to discuss is how parents.
We've we've kind of discussed a little bit what all
parents can do. But here's my concern. A text can
easily be excuse me, a text can easily be deleted.
Law enforcement has the power to get a subpoena and
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go do a data dump and find out every text
message that's ever been deleted, every picture that's ever been deleted.
How does a parent go about doing that? How do
you as a parent monitor your child's cell phone?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So this is one thing you know that we have
we've talked about in our house, like if you delete text,
then you can just give me the phone back, you know,
because if there's been something said that I can't see it,
or y'all got to hide, then you just don't need
it at all, you know, it's it's a respect thing.
We're not deleting text in this house. However, I will
say back to even the helicopter mom. There are other
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ways that you can monitor. There's an app or a
program called Bark. Bark is phenomenal. You install it on
your child's phone and if there's anything said, anything like
suicide or any kind of bullying or it recognizes that
and it sends an alert to the parent's phone, so
you don't have to grab the phone every twenty minutes.
(28:17):
Look what are you doing? What are you doing? What
are you doing? Or for those parents who are just
going to leave the devices in the bedroom, I would
suggest you get Bark and you install that on your
child's phone, on the computers, on all the devices, and
should there be anything said that's questionable, you can set
those parameters. You will get an alert, and alert will
let you know what's happening on your child's device. Good
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to know what else you know there's that. There are
several other different I think there is one called Angel
that might be a TV as well, But there are
different things that you can do. There's also VPNs that
you can set up on your Wi Fi system that
detect things. Just look into it. It is out there
and it's available to help you. I don't want my
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kids to feel like we're spying on them, but we're
all in My oldest will say all the time, she
just wants some space. I just want to talk to
my friends and quiet, you know. And I understand that
because I don't want her to feel as though she
has no freedom whatsoever. Right, but there is a healthy balance,
and that balance is really established with trust and respect,
Like I understand you, I trust you, I respect you. Also,
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it's not you, you know. It's like whenever we first
started driving, our parents wouldn't let us go out at nighttime,
and we're like, why why we trust you? If you
trust me, let me do it. It wasn't that they.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Didn't trust us, it was the other drivers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It was the other drivers out there that they didn't
trust and they had to protect us from. And it's
the same way in this situation, Like do you want
to be worried about that right now or do you
want to be regretful later when something terrible happens?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Absolutely, Megan. Let's go back to seven six'. Four so
EVERY fbi office in The United states has. This the
fear is that there are thousands of. Cases this has gone.
Global talk to me a little bit more about seven
sixty four how this kind of got, started when it
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even got, started and how THE fbi realized what it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Was so they started noticing, that you, know some, trends specific,
trends and at first they thought it was race, based you,
know are certain religious. Ideologies but then whenever they started
seeing the trends pick up and these kids are doing
these violent, things then it realized exactly what it was
(30:34):
and started really developing task force to protect and go
after these. Groups so they have specific groups that are
looking for this all the. Time it. Is it is that.
Serious there have been kids that have gone into schools
threatened to hurt people in schools that are threatened to
hurt their, parents or hurt their, parents or tried to kill.
(30:56):
Themselves there isn't just this other other case in this
than seven six four. Related BUT i saw the case
about a boy who committed suicide and was talking To
CHAT gpt about, it and CHAT gpt gave him ways
and you know to assist in his, suicide and he
ended up killing. Himself you, know like these are things
that that's basically what seven six' four is doing to.
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These kids they are gaining, their trust then they are
getting their pictures using this shame against them and threatened
you have to do this and telling them. All this
and no child who is already this deep end is
going to be like, hey mom because they're terrified at.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That, point yep they're too SCARED of, I know i.
Messed up i'm gonna get in a lot of trouble from.
My parents and the sad thing is if kids are
for some reason listening that no matter what your, parent is,
your parent nobody's gonna love you more in. This world
absolute rather, you alive go. To them it's, It is
it is worth getting in trouble with. Your Parent.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And i'll tell you one thing that we do in.
Our house we have what we call the, special code,
you know or a. Free pass we call it a.
Free pass so should there be anything, Out there let's say,
you're sixteen you sneak out the house and go to
a party, and realize, OH shoot i shouldn't have. Done
this i'm at, the party And now mom's going to be.
So mad like you can call me or anyone in
(32:15):
our family and because all of our family knows, about
it and JUST say i need a. Free pass the
free pass is we come, get you we come, Do
it we fix. The situation, that's it no no, strings attached.
That's it you get your. Free pass.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's, smart well at the end of, The, day megan
you're doing everything to protect. Your child you get upset.
With them and it's not just, your child your, loved ones,
your spouse, your husband, your wife, your parents, your siblings
you're even. Your friends you get mad with them because you.
Love them you want to protect themsolutely from the world
from all the bad things that are. Out there and
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the bad thing is that the way society. Has evolved
now there's good, about it but then there's this l
of bad and there's this group. Of people and, In,
fact megan let me, even say the kids that are
being targeted in, this group like, you said, they're young
as young as nine. Years old and think about the
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development of a child for a brain at nine, years
old and now they're holding this picture, of you dangling
this photo in front. Of you that if you don't.
Do this if you don't, Do that i'm going to release.
This picture and now you're terrified they've. Got you so
that's an absolutely. Terrible thing the OTHER thing i wanted
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to stress is this is a fairly. New ISSUE the
fbi said it kind of started in twenty, twenty, Two, correct.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, so yeah around, twenty twenty and that it was
Found About Bradley caden head was a Teenager. From texas
so it's been.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Five years, five years, BUT still i mean five years
is really not that long of a time to learn
how it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
All operates and you notice it started in, twenty twenty
so you know when it started when he was at
home in his, room alone doing all kinds of things
that he shouldn't have. Been doing his parents probably had
no idea what he. Was, doing.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yep YEP so, i, mean, YEAH well i texted you
as SOON as i finished watching That Documentary. Unknown numbers go.
Watch it you will probably, regret it but everything that.
Websolutely regret absolutely. Regret it but you need to. Watch
IT and i don't want to tell you how it
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ends because you will be. ABSOLUTELY shocked i think it
was What last friday megan that on our, morning meeting
you kept talking about. This documentary so AT home, I
said i, was, like, Oh well, megan said let's watch.
THIS documentary i put, it on not thinking anything, of it,
just okay it's a. Normal documentary THE last i think twenty,
(34:54):
THIRTY minutes i. Was floored but everything we're talking about
now makes sense of how this works because. It does
it's in, a very very very, small town so cell
phones are, pretty, much unfortunately how. Everybody communicates think. About
it even if you and your spouse are sitting in the,
living room you both are on. Your phones you go,
(35:14):
to dinner you're on. Your phones it's a sad part,
of life but that is how we are. Operating now
so even, these kids they're glued to their phones. Even
More and i'll go ahead and spill a little bit
of The, beans meghan and we can talk about it
without saying how, it ends but. It does it begins
with like a random text to a, young girl and
(35:36):
all of, a sudden people are kind of turning against
each other because nobody can figure out what's happening or what's.
Going on but then the Text messages megan turned very
vile in the sense of go, kill yourself you don't
deserve to, be alive.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Blah, blah blah and just spirals down and just, sparrows
down even the authorities involved with this situation with, text messages. Text, muches,
now listen when we were in school and things got
crazy and, people, said oh, you're uglier your hair is
dirty or whatever, they said you would, hear it and
(36:13):
then you would go home and you would leave it. At,
school right it's not left at. School anymore now they
go home and it's here in, their house and it's in,
their bedroom and it's in their minds when, they're sleep
and the first thing when they wake up and they
pick up their phone and it's, there again and it's
just unrelenting and it. Doesn't, stop yep it just doesn't
(36:33):
stop these bullying and, that again that's how seven six.
Four works just let me just tell you, a little
let me, tell you let's, develop friends and then start
adding these things little by little and it just rals out.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Of.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Control yep so go.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Watch it it's Called Right Unknown, numbers number, An number,
i'm sorry a. No number It's. On netflix but, for
parents it's really important to watch this because you will
learn a lot as to kind of the how. It
happens but then you're going To, Hate Meghan and i'm
not going to take any of this blame because she's
the one who made.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Me watch, no, no, no no no hate. My, husband, okay
okay someone we try it says he's the one who,
started it and he was, just like you have to,
watch this you have to. Watch this, I'M like i
do not want to watch anything that's going to make
me already crazier than my thoughts tend, to be, so no,
you know and then. We started, i'm like oh.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
My. GOSH yeah i think it was like eleven o'clock
at NIGHT when i texted.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You TOO and i, was, like yeah WHAT did i?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Just watch but you do need to watch it because
it is a very. Rude AWAKENING and i would hope
and pray that all of our listeners everybody's, watching us you. Are,
aware well let's. Be honest in today's day, AND age
i think majority of, parents, know hey you can't just
give your child a cell phone and say. Go enjoy
but the younger, the child the more you need to.
(37:53):
Be involved and for those if your kids are, SEVENTEEN
eighteen i. Get it you want a certain level of
read them for. THE child, i mean, at eighteen your
child's probably in college, by now eighteen nineteen, years old
you can still be that parent figure and let. Them,
KNOW hey i just want to make sure you're aware.
Of this it doesn't hurt for the child to know,
(38:14):
because yeah eighteen, seventeen nineteen you're still your your brain
is not one hundred. Percent more someone, tells, you hey
you look, really nice you take it as a, true
compliment not, realizing WAIT am i? Being groomed.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Exactly exactly and the truth of the, matter is if
you haven't met this person, in life in, real life
you really don't know who you're. Talking to you really.
Don't guess you truly don't know if that really. Is
them and is it worth taking? The risk is it?
Worth it it's just it's honestly not, worth it especially for.
Your kids, AND again i know that there are single
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moms out there that are just trying their best to
like do, the jobs do all, this stuff and keep
up and now, add in now you need to check
your kid's phone and do all. This stuff. GET it
i know, it's overwhelming and there's so many things, to
do and this is not. Judgment, whatsoever however if you
are going to give your, child devices which most of
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them have anyway at school. With computers but if you
are going to give your child a phone or i've pad,
or anything, get bark put that on. The phone maybe
you have to go at work and leave your kids at.
Home alone you know, that happens and they're here. With
devices add these things to your kids devices and you
can watch and you, can monitor and if there is
something that, is questionable it will send you an alert
(39:33):
and you can address it with your child without having
to go through all their stuff every day and invading.
Their privacy, you know there are ways to do this
and protect our kids at. Every angle and.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Speaking, Of, that megan let's talk about what are some
things parents can be looking. Out for, changing behavior things
like that in. Your child talk to me. About, that
yeah change change.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
In, behaviors right your child is normally outgoing and happy
and w to do sports, and stuff and all of
a sudden. That's changed their. Appetites change they're just hanging
in their room all, the time a little bit. EXTRA moody,
i mean let's, get it they're. All moody but, you
know a little extra moody. Than normal all of, a
sudden you just notice these little changes and stuff start asking.
(40:16):
The questions, you know have phone device free nights where
you take those things away. From them they really don't want,
you to but they will. BE grateful i just did
that last night with MY oldest i, was, like okay
today's a phone, free day just give me. The phone
and she sat here for hours and made these, incredible
drawings something she wouldn't have done or even tapped into
if she's still been on the phone textan. All night,
(40:36):
you know just take it away for a. Little bit
it's okay to take. It away it's okay. To say
and if you take it away and you get a
response that is, just outrageous that's just another Sign, of
okay what's really, going on what's? Really happening why are
we so attached? To this what? Is happened, you know
why are we so addicted to this situation or to.
(40:58):
These devices these are things that we have to watch for,
because again they're not living in the days that we were.
Living in, you know they're not waking Up on saturday
mornings And watching saved By. The bell that's not. Happening
anymore that's a pretty. Good, times look we Still watch
save By the Bell on saturday Morning And fresh prince
Of bel air that and we watch. Them all we
put them ON a tv. In morning we're still being in.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Full house and.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Family matters we haven't started family, matters yet but we
still hold. All exactly we're all together and we make them.
Watch it, but anyway, you know do? These things do?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
These, Things, heyten meghan let's talk about if parents, are, realizing,
hey okay something's. Not right i'm noticing. Red flags what do?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You do?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Is there can we CALL? The fbi who do? You
call if you suspect or you've caught it? Red handed
you you now. Have, proof look these are the text
messages my child, was getting or here's. The messages what do?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
We do you can go to your local authorities and
this WAS something i specifically asked them on the. Phone
call but if it's something like this one, eight HUNDRED.
Call fbi so and you can call and you can
say this Is what. I'm noticing, because yes you can
go to other local authorities and. Handle it but sometimes
these are federal issues because you could be your child
(42:17):
can be talking to someone in a, different state and we,
never know so going to both will. Not hurt THAT'S
what i. Would DO and.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I stress this because people may not. KNOW it i
didn't know IT until i got into journalism that when
you go to your, local police they are limited to
only Your c if you go to the, sheriff's office
they're limited to your parish or, your county depending on where.
You live and then if you. Go federal the reason
we say go federal and the REASON the fbi has
taken over investigating This is megan Lives, in Louisiana and
(42:52):
i'm the one praying, on HER but i Live In.
New YORK claiming i Live. In louisiana the bat Reached
Police Department East bouttery's, Sheriff's office they technically can't even
touch THIS because i live all the way Out In.
New YORK, the fbi on the, other hand they can.
Get involved And, then megan let's go back to that
documentary you were saying that. She did the moms did
(43:13):
report it to the. Local, authorities unfortunately the local authorities
couldn't really get anywhere, with it and that's why the
locals did reach out TO the fbi and that's when
actually something. Came about SO the fbi does have maybe
a few more tools in their toolbox than some of
(43:33):
the local. Agencies do and in, this case you have
to remember this was, a really really really, small town
so it's a really small town, police department and they
maybe not don't have all those tools available LIKE the.
Fbi does but Now the feds are aware, of this
so they if you were, to call they would already
(43:55):
know what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
About exactly they know what they're, looking for and they
are they know far more than what, we know. You
know and so if you call them and you Tell
them i'm, noticing, this that, and that they can, Easily,
say okay this, is serious this is something we need to.
Look into don't sit there and question. By YOURSELF and
i would, also, say yes go to, the authorities but
prioritize your child and your child's experience and their mental
(44:19):
health throughout. The situation maybe, you, SAY well i can't
get in a therapist on my INSURANCE or i can't.
Afford it go to a school counselor go to, a
church find, a pastor, you know find someone and get
your child talking to someone and get healing and help for,
your child because the authorities may handle, it again and
they may do a, great job may not do a.
(44:41):
Great job at the end of, the day it is
our responsibility to take care and to product. Our children
you have to do one hundred percent of what we
can do to help. Our.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Kids, Yep ABSOLUTELY and i will just add to that
that if you, notice it and if you, see it sound,
THE alarm i don't care how loud, it is sound,
that alarm because as you, Just, said megan at the
end of, the day it is your responsibility as a
parent to protect. Your child, you, Yes yeah or you
(45:10):
notice it on your you've got your child's best friend
over and, something's off maybe tell, that parent.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Tell the, parent mentioned call. The parent if you can't call,
the parent call. The, school.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yep yep do what you have. To. DO megan i
appreciate you, joining us And really i'll even add THIS
that i am very thankful that you were so adamant
to stay on, this report that even WHEN the fbi
wouldn't return, your calls you just stayed true to it
(45:42):
and stayed ON the FBI that i want to talk,
about it and you. Got IT and i think this
is a really really important subject matter because it impacts you.
Know how sometimes we'll do a story and maybe it
impacts only, one parish or it impacts a certain. Age
group this impacts just about.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Everyone everyone, So everyone and if your kids are not
involved in this and they've learned, one, thing listen pay
attention to what's happening on your child's device something else
that's just. Really true like their kids might not say it,
out loud but they want you. To care they want
you to be. In there they want to know because
(46:19):
it signals to, those kids my, parents care they, are
interested they, are invested they want. To know they're going
to fight you on it and all the things and
say all, the things but deep down inside you're also
like meeting a need and that is to be wanted and. Cared. About.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yep, Yep, well meghan we appreciate you, joining us and to,
our listeners we hope that this podcast has been able
to teach you at least. One thing if, nothing else
go watch that documentary and then blame It on. Meghan's
husband it Is, not megan blame it on.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Her.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
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It's a danger lurking right at your fingertips, but the
predator is targeting your child. It's the digital era our
kids are living in today and how parenting has been
forced to evolve today. We are discussing an extremist group
(00:53):
that formed just five years ago and has since spread
its reach not only across all of the United States,
but across the globe, targeting kids as young as nine
years old. It's called seven six four and get this.
Every FBI field office in the United States has actively
(01:21):
worked these cases and they are still currently investigating them.
In this episode, we break down what seven six four is,
how it works, and what you as a parent need
to be looking out for and how to get involved.
I'm Kieran Challa and this is Louisiana Unfiltered Welcome back everyone.
(01:59):
This week we are joined by one of our amazing reporters,
Megan Kelly. Meghan, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Thank you for having me. Love being here.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I want to get right to it. First off,
I want to kind of explain to our listeners that
this is something a subject matter that you have been
actually fighting for since May of this year. And so
the process with us when we do news with Unfiltered
with Kirian is we every morning decide what we're going
(02:30):
to do for the day and what we're in September.
So it's been four months that you have not let
this story go. And usually when we can't turn a
story within a week, two, three weeks, four or five weeks,
we finally move on. But this one, Megan, you refuse
to move on. So I kind of want to hear
from you that how did you hear about it? And
(02:52):
then why did you refuse to let it go?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So I'm a mom, I have kids and thirteen, nine
and four and things like along this topic really get
to me. Right. I'm also in Enneagram six if you
know about that. I'm the one who's like always analytpicool
and always trying to figure things out and always have
a backup plan for every crisis. So my brain always
is in that mode. But I think it was in
(03:18):
one of our conversations in one of our meetings that
Daniel brought up about this group, the online group called
seven sixty four that was a terror group, a new
terror group that exists, and they basically are online terrorizing children.
And then we started looking into it and researching it
and trying to reach out to the FBI and all
this stuff, and it just overwhelmed me at the unbelievable
(03:44):
amount of terror that is out there for our young
kids in games that they're playing every single day, and
also on social media outlets as well. And you know,
the heart of the heart of this is to alert
parents and to alert guardians, to let them know this
is something that you really need to think about and
really need to understand and learn about.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And Megan, just excuse me. A few weeks ago we
were talking about roadblocks. The Attorney General did this big
presentation along with the sheriff in Livingston Parish that she's
now filed suit against roadblocks. So I'm gonna go ahead
and say this. I wasn't very familiar with roadblocks. I
don't have kids. So when we're saying, hey, they're they're
(04:28):
targeting kids through video games, my brain goes to Nintendo
and Sega and no, I'm dating myself here, but you
know what I'm talking about, Megan, Nintendo sixty four, Sega Genesis,
Like those were the cool games back when we were kids.
But of course, like I haven't done it yet, so
I don't have the experience with roadblocks. And then I
(04:51):
think when you even explained it to me, because you
even wrote those articles, I was, I have to say,
shocked to learn how all this worked. And now to
add this to the mix, it's a very scary world
for parents nowadays, it's a.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Very scary world. And here's the thing, Like you mentioned Nintendo,
to me, nothing's better than Mario Kart and Duck Hunt, Like,
it doesn't get much better than that, you know, That's it.
I tap out after that. But now our kids are
playing these games online. So when we were back in
the day, we would have friends come over to our house.
Our parents knew who those friends were. We'd sit in
(05:27):
front of the TV, shoot the ducks, play Mario Kart whatever,
and then we go on about our life. Right. Well,
now kids are doing the same thing, but they're playing
against anyone online, right And most of those people they
assume to be their friends, and I'm sure a lot
of them are, you know. But if you aren't aware
of what's happening, bad people are also playing these games,
(05:50):
and they are targeting your children. You know. Now, yes,
there are ways to protect them. But if you are
unaware and you don't understand the seriousness of this and
the gravity and how these games work, then you leave
yourself susceptible to terrorists, pedophiles. These games can be a
pedophiles playground. It really can. And that's just the truth
(06:10):
of the matter. So I do understand the heart behind
why the Attorney General decided to file suit against Rodblocks.
I do understand heart, and I will say that to
be fair, I deeply appreciate that someone in that position
takes the time and the heart to care about our
kids enough to fight for them. Right. So let me
just say that first, I will say, there's a butt coming,
(06:34):
Oh it's coming.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's not a but it's an also or an and
and also at the core of it, whenever I take
my kids to McDonald's. I can go there all day
long and I can hope that they have something healthy
on their menu, and I can even tell them you
really need to have something healthy on your menu. But
at the end of the day, it's up to me
if I'm bringing my kids there or not. It's up
(06:57):
to me if I'm going to feed those things. Because
McDonald's does not have to change, Roadblocks does not have
to change. As we can see these places do not
have to Roadblocks has actually done a lot of things
to protect kids, like now you have to have a
parental account to go with your child. So they have
made steps too fixing that. Is there more that they
(07:18):
can do? Absolutely yes, But at the end of the day,
it comes down to our and you know, our interests
in our kids and what's happening with our kids.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well and Megan, I want to talk a little more
in depth about the uh what parents can do, because
to me it is one of those of what all
can a parent do? If it's all done on your
cell phone and if a child is going in and
deleting a text message, how can a parent get to it?
But I want to come back to that. What I
(07:48):
really want to start on is tell us what is
seven six for?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Okay, So seven six y four is a nihilistic, violent
extremist network. That is what they are called. Now what
world does that big word mean? Essentially, when you think
about terrorist groups, most terrorist groups are racially motivated or
have an ideology of some sort of religious religion or
anything of sort. And that's there. When you're looking at
(08:14):
a nihilistic group, they're basically a group that is not
out there with any agenda. They're just out there with
the sole intent of destroying humanity. That's it. They just
want to see the downfall of people. So these people
have no boundaries and that is what makes them so extreme,
and that's what makes them so scary.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
And I want to make sure let's double down on this.
This is not a group that's religion based or they're
not racist. They're not I know, they're going to be extremist.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Say the word.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Obviously, I have not heard of that, So we're going
to explain what that word is as well. But this
is not a hey, I can't stand this specific religion
or I don't like this group. This is we just
don't like mankind exactly. We're just out here to create havoc.
That's it, pure and simple, and this is the quickest
(09:08):
way we can do it is to target children.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's just the truth. And when we say children, we're
talking the lowest ages, youngest victims like nine years old
now nine years old, all the way up to high school.
That is what they're out here. Seven sixty four is
the area code of Stevensville, Texas, and that is where
this group originated from. And right now, this is what
really caught my eye. Right now, they have more than
(09:32):
two hundred and fifty investigations. Every FBI jurisdiction is fighting
the seven sixty four, So that means everyone in our
state fifty five different FBI offices or fields, and each
one are dealing with seven six four.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
And I want to make sure I say this Megan,
that we're not obviously just making this information up. You
waited four months to get an interview you with the
FBI on this report in order for us to put
it out, and in fact, we just put out the
report Wednesday night, So please go back and read that
if you haven't read that one in depth. And then
(10:11):
we also have links to the roadblock story that Megan wrote.
She's written several, including victims we've had locally, So all
those links are going to be in this podcast as well.
But we go check out Unfiltered with Carean dot com. So, Megan,
I want to go back number one. We were talking
about the word. Explain what that word means to me.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I'm just going to read it directly to you.
It says nihilistic violent extremist network is decentralized group of
individuals who engage in criminal and violent acts driven by
hatred of society and a desire for its collapse. These
networks different from traditional extremist groups in that the primary
motivation is not based on a coherent political, social, or
religious ideology, but rather on a deep sense of meaningless
(10:57):
pessimism and despair.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
So we're targeting literally anybody and everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Anybody and everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
And like the people who are going, I guess are
organizing it. Who is the day?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It is a group? Now, there was a man who
was arrested in the last year who they said was
the head of the group. Now it's still continue yes,
so it's still continued. He was arrested on the East coast,
so he was arrested. But the group is huge now
(11:32):
and they have brought in other people and added and
so it is something that has not stopped because they've
gotten the Queen Bee.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So okay, Megan, walk me through the process. I mean,
how do I know that my child is a victim
or could be a victim? That are they targeting me
through the video games? How does this work?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right? So let's let's break it down how they work.
What they do is they identify a child or person
and they're online in these games. First and foremost you
need to kind of understand how roadblocks works. We're just
gonna talk about roadblocks. There are others like Fortnite and
these other things, but I'm just going to focus on
the roadblots and right now to keep it simple because
they're all kind of similar. With roadblocks. If you get
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on there right now and you try and find my child,
my child has a private account, but most of them
do not have private accounts. So you can friend that child,
you can start playing in a game with the child,
and you can build relationships. You guys can be chatting,
you can send messages, you can do all this kind
of stuff. You cannot FaceTime, like you and I are
talking right now. For that you would then need to
add in a different app similar to Discord. Discord is
(12:39):
an app where you can get online and you can
be talking to somebody and then playing games at the
same time. Okay, so they connect with roadblocks, they're talking
for a while and the stuff. They're building relationships, and
they're really grooming these kids. If you go back and
look at one of our stories that we wrote before
about a Denim Springs mom whose child was groomed and
(13:00):
they send him tickets to Florida and it's gonna fly
him off to Florida, Like these are the things that happen.
That grooming process happened over the course of three or
four months, right, So at some point in there. The
way most of it works is they will convince a
child to send them incriminating photos, okay, like send me
sex pictures or pictures of yourself or something that's going
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to bring great shame. They thrive on shame, and once
your child or person sends this picture over, they now
have leverage over you and they will then convince you
to do things like you should kill yourself, you should
cut yourself, you should hurt your dog and kill your
petz or even kill your parents. I mean it is serious, sadistic, wild,
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diabolical things. It's not just six four not roadblocks, correct,
this is seven sixty four using tools like roadblocks and
discord to reach your children.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So let's back up Megan and again, I mean, I'm
hoping that they're some of our listeners if they don't
know this subject at all, Like I kind of, I
was upfront with you. I wasn't aware of it, which
is why I felt that it needed to be a
podcast that if I'm not aware of this at all,
I'm assuming there are going to be others out there
who are not aware of it. And maybe it's a
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grandparent who doesn't know. So maybe a child gets on
roadblocks when they're at their grandparents' house. But when you're
saying that you can get on discord and see the
person face to face, well, in that very moment, wouldn't
it give away Hey, this person you thought you were
talking to as a child.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You're absolutely right. However, there's ai now you know, and
you can change that. You can change the way you look,
you can alter the way your voice sounds. And maybe
they do get on there and they're just talking with
voice and not video and they say I can only
talk to you through voice because my mom won't let
me do video, and another child will say, oh, okay,
that's fine, we'll just keep talking. There are many ways
(14:55):
these people use to target your kids, right, So discord
is not just video. You can just get on the
or just like zoom, you know, or a FaceTime call.
If you're on a call but you really don't want
to be seeing because your hair looks whack, you know,
then you just turn off the video. So there are
ways to get into, you know, the mind of your
child and to make build these communication and these things
(15:16):
with your kids. One thing that you just said, and
this this is such a passion thing. I'm trying to
like balance reporter me and mom me here and like
be balanced. One thing you said was what if parents
don't know? What if they're with their grandparents? Okay, I
sent you a video just the other day of an
ad where they were saying yeah. But the whole point
(15:39):
of the ad was, Hey, these things are happening, people
are reaching out. But at the very first sentence of
the ad said right now behind closed doors this okay,
stop the.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Child in the room by themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Everything that's wrong with this situation is why is the
child behind closed doors with a device? Why?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
But Megan, it is a very fine line for a
parent because think about think back at thirteen, maybe we
did go to our rooms. I mean, again, we're aging ourselves.
But phone, having a phone in your bedroom was pretty
cool at thirteen years old, and now everything's on a
cell phone. So we were allowed to go to our
(16:26):
rooms at thirteen. So in that sense, like maybe a
parent feels okay, well I was allowed to do it.
But what we're trying to point out to you is
that it's just not safe, especially if your child is
behind the closed door for thirty minutes or an hour.
That is more than enough time for your child to
be groomed.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Oh oh my goodness. Yes, And let's be clear and like,
we are not living in the days that we were
thirteen years old. No, we just had a phone and
could call the neighbor. You know, we are not living
in that time anymore. Those days are gone. I like
to say, when we were growing out, when we were
baking in the oven, we were baking at a nice
three hundred and fifty. Maybe our parents were baking at
(17:06):
one hundred and fifty our kids come straight out and
they're in the fire at like nine hundred degrees. It
ain't no joke, It's true. It is not the same
world that we used to live in. So to be honest,
like if it's your house, your kid doesn't need to
be in their room with a phone, with a computer,
with any of that, in a room that can be
closed off by themselves. They have to be in a
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public area that in itself stops a large percentage of
this because when you're hearing it, you can ask questions.
When my kids are playing Fortnite, they played on the
TV and we all hear it. And the things sometimes
that I hear from other kids that are talking, I'm
wondering are their parents on the other end of this
actually listening, And a lot of times they aren't. And
that's how these kinds of terrorists take advantage of your
(17:53):
kids because a you're tired, A you want to give
them a device and get some silence in the home,
you know, and you just okay, fine, go to your room,
just whatever, and they take advantage of that and while
your kids are just in the room, like you have
an alarm on your house to keep out predators, but
you give your child a device that invites the entire
world into your home and let them go off alone.
(18:15):
That is the core of these issues.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
And it's a very scary world out there because all
you need is this.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And despite parental controls and Megan, let's go back to
Roadblocks for just a quick minute. And this is important
to point out with the lawsuit that for a long while,
like Roadblocks, didn't have any tools in place, so you
could message somebody and this is all from what I understand.
You could message somebody and it had an algorithm to
(18:44):
pick up, like hey, if something, if the word snapchat
maybe picks up, or or mail or something like that.
So the predators now know that Snapchat picks up. But
maybe you're trying to say, hey, let's switch to snapchat.
Instead of saying snapchat, you spell it backwards. The algorithm
does not pick it up, and now you have your
(19:06):
person and the kids nowadays know what it is spelled backwards,
so they're going to snapchat with you. In this case
actually did happen in Livingston Parish, which is why the
press conference was held in Livingston Parish. So this is
not me making this up. This actually did happen in Livingston,
and the guy was spelling it backwards and having the
(19:28):
child meet them on Snapchat, and that's how they went
back and forth. So hence the lawsuit from the Attorney
in General. But at the end of the day, it
goes right back to your analogy with McDonald's, Meghan, that
you can sit there and suggest all of this. You
got the Attorney General of Louisiana filing suit. Who knows
how many other officials have filed suit against roadblocks. It's
(19:48):
up to Roadblocks to make some changes. Granted it appears
they are making it. But and I'll even give them
the benefit of doubt, Megan, I'm sure whoever created roadblocks
they they may not even even thought about this aspect
of it. They haven't. Maybe they just thought, hey, in
the day and age we're living out, this would be
fun to do games and we've been talking about roadblocks.
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(21:38):
to learn It's basically, you can create your own little
worlds in this So if I want to create a
world that's full of skittles, and when you collect all
the red skittles you move on to the next level,
sweet and innocent. But there are worlds in here that
are Epstein related. There's what else, Meghan.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yes, there are very very explicit games within Roadblocks, and
that is what the Attorney General was fighting. She's saying.
There are Epstein versus based games. There are games in
there where you can go in there and actually like
do sexual things with the other player. It does exist
(22:17):
in Roadblocks. Not gonna lie. That is real. It does
happen if you have a full open account, right Like
my kids, we all play Roadblocks in here together. Actually
hate play video games. Better just do it because my
kids are involved, but I really do. It drives me nuts.
But there are those things in our house. Our kids
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have private accounts. They have accounts set to their age range,
which then eliminates Epstein stuff, and they own. The only
friends that they have are friends that we have approved,
which means they are people that we have actually met
in person, that we know in person. Every week we
go through and have a friend check because sometimes friends
get at it and then we go and delete. So
you have to be like involved in it. Roadblocks has
(23:01):
taken a step and if you're going to if your
child's going to make an account and they're thirteen, they
can't make that account unless a parent account is made
and attached to it, you know. So they have taken
that step and trying to tighten things down. Now, what
the Attorney General and others are suggesting is like, maybe
they use a license to verify your age, because some
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kids will go in there and say they're eighteen, you know,
and if there aren't any parents patrolling it, then they
can just create their account because who's to stop them, right,
So that does happen. Again, I appreciate that the AG
has taken the steps. Also, they're doing the same thing
in California, which blew me away that California is also
cracking down on roadblocks as well, and I think that's
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wonderful that they take the steps to care. I also
think some of that money that's going into the lawsuit
could also be put into educating parents who are actually
in the home.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, and again, a lot of this to me is educating.
One thing I love about journalism is I feel like
we're always learning. You can be sent out to cover
a report that you've never ever even heard of in
your life. And to me, this is one of those
subject matters. But it's so important because at the end
of the day, the most valuable asset you have is
your child. Yes, but Megan, some people can argue that
(24:23):
you're too involved, you're helicopter parenting, And I guess what
do you say to those people?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wait, let me think of a better way to say that.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Okay, I think you're lasting at all.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But yeah, I don't really care what they think. Let
me tell you something. The government does not have to
take care of my kid. McDonald's does not have to
do the right thing on behalf of my kids. Neither
does roadblocks, discord twitch switch, all them other things. Nobody
has to do that. It's up to me and my
husband to set the parameters and to protect our kids.
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God gave us these kids and us the privilege of
guiding them and training them and protecting them, and that
is what we are going to do. If you call
me helicopter, you can call me helicopter all day long. We're
gonna just keep helicopter in because that's what we do.
We give our kids some space and stuff, but we're
in it with them. I could just say no roadblocks
(25:20):
allowed in his house no devices, which some parents do,
and I fully understand and respect you for it, but
in our house we allow them to have that, but
there are tight parameters in our house, and we are
also on these games too.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
And again you said it one hundred times times have
changed to parents, you really can't let go anymore. Majority
of kids do have a phone because hey, practice ended early,
they need to get in touch with you, or school
got canceled. Now they have the way of just contacting
you directly. So a lot of kids do have cell phones,
but it is so important to be in their face.
(25:56):
And yeah, you can risk being a helicopter parent, or
you can keep your child safe. But Megan, I want
to go back to, like, does it ever morph out
of roadblocks or Snapchat or whatever else into texting that, hey,
what's your cell phone number? I mean I would absolutely, in.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Absolutely it does. So. I mean you imagine if you've
talked to this person for a long time. And this
isn't just exclusive to roadblocks. You know, there's also Fortnite,
there's also YouTube. There's also, like you said, snapchat, TikTok,
There's all these things that are out there for predators
to reach your kids. And they take advantage of our
(26:38):
parental ignorance. But you know, they can definitely start messaging,
sending messages back and forth, back and forth, and at
some point say, hey, you want to call, do you
want to chat? Do you want to do this? And
after you've talked to somebody for a long time and
you really begin to feel connected with them, why wouldn't
you because this is your friend, These are people that
(26:59):
care about you.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But Megan, let's go back. One of the things that
I had said that I want to discuss is how parents.
We've we've kind of discussed a little bit what all
parents can do. But here's my concern. A text can
easily be excuse me, a text can easily be deleted.
Law enforcement has the power to get a subpoena and
(27:21):
go do a data dump and find out every text
message that's ever been deleted, every picture that's ever been deleted.
How does a parent go about doing that? How do
you as a parent monitor your child's cell phone?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So this is one thing you know that we have
we've talked about in our house, like if you delete text,
then you can just give me the phone back, you know,
because if there's been something said that I can't see it,
or y'all got to hide, then you just don't need
it at all, you know, it's it's a respect thing.
We're not deleting text in this house. However, I will
say back to even the helicopter mom. There are other
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ways that you can monitor. There's an app or a
program called Bark. Bark is phenomenal. You install it on
your child's phone and if there's anything said, anything like
suicide or any kind of bullying or it recognizes that
and it sends an alert to the parent's phone, so
you don't have to grab the phone every twenty minutes.
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Look what are you doing? What are you doing? What
are you doing? Or for those parents who are just
going to leave the devices in the bedroom, I would
suggest you get Bark and you install that on your
child's phone, on the computers, on all the devices, and
should there be anything said that's questionable, you can set
those parameters. You will get an alert, and alert will
let you know what's happening on your child's device. Good
(28:37):
to know what else you know there's that. There are
several other different I think there is one called Angel
that might be a TV as well, But there are
different things that you can do. There's also VPNs that
you can set up on your Wi Fi system that
detect things. Just look into it. It is out there
and it's available to help you. I don't want my
(28:59):
kids to feel like we're spying on them, but we're
all in My oldest will say all the time, she
just wants some space. I just want to talk to
my friends and quiet, you know. And I understand that
because I don't want her to feel as though she
has no freedom whatsoever. Right, but there is a healthy balance,
and that balance is really established with trust and respect,
Like I understand you, I trust you, I respect you. Also,
(29:22):
it's not you, you know. It's like whenever we first
started driving, our parents wouldn't let us go out at nighttime,
and we're like, why why we trust you? If you
trust me, let me do it. It wasn't that they.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Didn't trust us, it was the other drivers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
It was the other drivers out there that they didn't
trust and they had to protect us from. And it's
the same way in this situation, Like do you want
to be worried about that right now or do you
want to be regretful later when something terrible happens?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Absolutely, Megan. Let's go back to seven six'. Four so
EVERY fbi office in The United states has. This the
fear is that there are thousands of. Cases this has gone.
Global talk to me a little bit more about seven
sixty four how this kind of got, started when it
(30:10):
even got, started and how THE fbi realized what it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Was so they started noticing, that you, know some, trends specific,
trends and at first they thought it was race, based you,
know are certain religious. Ideologies but then whenever they started
seeing the trends pick up and these kids are doing
these violent, things then it realized exactly what it was
(30:34):
and started really developing task force to protect and go
after these. Groups so they have specific groups that are
looking for this all the. Time it. Is it is that.
Serious there have been kids that have gone into schools
threatened to hurt people in schools that are threatened to
hurt their, parents or hurt their, parents or tried to kill.
(30:56):
Themselves there isn't just this other other case in this
than seven six four. Related BUT i saw the case
about a boy who committed suicide and was talking To
CHAT gpt about, it and CHAT gpt gave him ways
and you know to assist in his, suicide and he
ended up killing. Himself you, know like these are things
that that's basically what seven six' four is doing to.
(31:18):
These kids they are gaining, their trust then they are
getting their pictures using this shame against them and threatened
you have to do this and telling them. All this
and no child who is already this deep end is
going to be like, hey mom because they're terrified at.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That, point yep they're too SCARED of, I know i.
Messed up i'm gonna get in a lot of trouble from.
My parents and the sad thing is if kids are
for some reason listening that no matter what your, parent is,
your parent nobody's gonna love you more in. This world
absolute rather, you alive go. To them it's, It is
it is worth getting in trouble with. Your Parent.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And i'll tell you one thing that we do in.
Our house we have what we call the, special code,
you know or a. Free pass we call it a.
Free pass so should there be anything, Out there let's say,
you're sixteen you sneak out the house and go to
a party, and realize, OH shoot i shouldn't have. Done
this i'm at, the party And now mom's going to be.
So mad like you can call me or anyone in
(32:15):
our family and because all of our family knows, about
it and JUST say i need a. Free pass the
free pass is we come, get you we come, Do
it we fix. The situation, that's it no no, strings attached.
That's it you get your. Free pass.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
That's, smart well at the end of, The, day megan
you're doing everything to protect. Your child you get upset.
With them and it's not just, your child your, loved ones,
your spouse, your husband, your wife, your parents, your siblings
you're even. Your friends you get mad with them because you.
Love them you want to protect themsolutely from the world
from all the bad things that are. Out there and
(32:51):
the bad thing is that the way society. Has evolved
now there's good, about it but then there's this l
of bad and there's this group. Of people and, In,
fact megan let me, even say the kids that are
being targeted in, this group like, you said, they're young
as young as nine. Years old and think about the
(33:15):
development of a child for a brain at nine, years
old and now they're holding this picture, of you dangling
this photo in front. Of you that if you don't.
Do this if you don't, Do that i'm going to release.
This picture and now you're terrified they've. Got you so
that's an absolutely. Terrible thing the OTHER thing i wanted
(33:36):
to stress is this is a fairly. New ISSUE the
fbi said it kind of started in twenty, twenty, Two, correct.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, so yeah around, twenty twenty and that it was
Found About Bradley caden head was a Teenager. From texas
so it's been.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Five years, five years, BUT still i mean five years
is really not that long of a time to learn
how it.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
All operates and you notice it started in, twenty twenty
so you know when it started when he was at
home in his, room alone doing all kinds of things
that he shouldn't have. Been doing his parents probably had
no idea what he. Was, doing.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yep YEP so, i, mean, YEAH well i texted you
as SOON as i finished watching That Documentary. Unknown numbers go.
Watch it you will probably, regret it but everything that.
Websolutely regret absolutely. Regret it but you need to. Watch
IT and i don't want to tell you how it
(34:33):
ends because you will be. ABSOLUTELY shocked i think it
was What last friday megan that on our, morning meeting
you kept talking about. This documentary so AT home, I
said i, was, like, Oh well, megan said let's watch.
THIS documentary i put, it on not thinking anything, of it,
just okay it's a. Normal documentary THE last i think twenty,
(34:54):
THIRTY minutes i. Was floored but everything we're talking about
now makes sense of how this works because. It does
it's in, a very very very, small town so cell
phones are, pretty, much unfortunately how. Everybody communicates think. About
it even if you and your spouse are sitting in the,
living room you both are on. Your phones you go,
(35:14):
to dinner you're on. Your phones it's a sad part,
of life but that is how we are. Operating now
so even, these kids they're glued to their phones. Even
More and i'll go ahead and spill a little bit
of The, beans meghan and we can talk about it
without saying how, it ends but. It does it begins
with like a random text to a, young girl and
(35:36):
all of, a sudden people are kind of turning against
each other because nobody can figure out what's happening or what's.
Going on but then the Text messages megan turned very
vile in the sense of go, kill yourself you don't
deserve to, be alive.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Blah, blah blah and just spirals down and just, sparrows
down even the authorities involved with this situation with, text messages. Text, muches,
now listen when we were in school and things got
crazy and, people, said oh, you're uglier your hair is
dirty or whatever, they said you would, hear it and
(36:13):
then you would go home and you would leave it. At,
school right it's not left at. School anymore now they
go home and it's here in, their house and it's in,
their bedroom and it's in their minds when, they're sleep
and the first thing when they wake up and they
pick up their phone and it's, there again and it's
just unrelenting and it. Doesn't, stop yep it just doesn't
(36:33):
stop these bullying and, that again that's how seven six.
Four works just let me just tell you, a little
let me, tell you let's, develop friends and then start
adding these things little by little and it just rals out.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Of.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Control yep so go.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Watch it it's Called Right Unknown, numbers number, An number,
i'm sorry a. No number It's. On netflix but, for
parents it's really important to watch this because you will
learn a lot as to kind of the how. It
happens but then you're going To, Hate Meghan and i'm
not going to take any of this blame because she's
the one who made.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Me watch, no, no, no no no hate. My, husband, okay
okay someone we try it says he's the one who,
started it and he was, just like you have to,
watch this you have to. Watch this, I'M like i
do not want to watch anything that's going to make
me already crazier than my thoughts tend, to be, so no,
you know and then. We started, i'm like oh.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
My. GOSH yeah i think it was like eleven o'clock
at NIGHT when i texted.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You TOO and i, was, like yeah WHAT did i?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Just watch but you do need to watch it because
it is a very. Rude AWAKENING and i would hope
and pray that all of our listeners everybody's, watching us you. Are,
aware well let's. Be honest in today's day, AND age
i think majority of, parents, know hey you can't just
give your child a cell phone and say. Go enjoy
but the younger, the child the more you need to.
(37:53):
Be involved and for those if your kids are, SEVENTEEN
eighteen i. Get it you want a certain level of
read them for. THE child, i mean, at eighteen your
child's probably in college, by now eighteen nineteen, years old
you can still be that parent figure and let. Them,
KNOW hey i just want to make sure you're aware.
Of this it doesn't hurt for the child to know,
(38:14):
because yeah eighteen, seventeen nineteen you're still your your brain
is not one hundred. Percent more someone, tells, you hey
you look, really nice you take it as a, true
compliment not, realizing WAIT am i? Being groomed.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Exactly exactly and the truth of the, matter is if
you haven't met this person, in life in, real life
you really don't know who you're. Talking to you really.
Don't guess you truly don't know if that really. Is
them and is it worth taking? The risk is it?
Worth it it's just it's honestly not, worth it especially for.
Your kids, AND again i know that there are single
(38:50):
moms out there that are just trying their best to
like do, the jobs do all, this stuff and keep
up and now, add in now you need to check
your kid's phone and do all. This stuff. GET it
i know, it's overwhelming and there's so many things, to
do and this is not. Judgment, whatsoever however if you
are going to give your, child devices which most of
(39:10):
them have anyway at school. With computers but if you
are going to give your child a phone or i've pad,
or anything, get bark put that on. The phone maybe
you have to go at work and leave your kids at.
Home alone you know, that happens and they're here. With
devices add these things to your kids devices and you
can watch and you, can monitor and if there is
something that, is questionable it will send you an alert
(39:33):
and you can address it with your child without having
to go through all their stuff every day and invading.
Their privacy, you know there are ways to do this
and protect our kids at. Every angle and.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Speaking, Of, that megan let's talk about what are some
things parents can be looking. Out for, changing behavior things
like that in. Your child talk to me. About, that
yeah change change.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
In, behaviors right your child is normally outgoing and happy
and w to do sports, and stuff and all of
a sudden. That's changed their. Appetites change they're just hanging
in their room all, the time a little bit. EXTRA moody,
i mean let's, get it they're. All moody but, you
know a little extra moody. Than normal all of, a
sudden you just notice these little changes and stuff start asking.
(40:16):
The questions, you know have phone device free nights where
you take those things away. From them they really don't want,
you to but they will. BE grateful i just did
that last night with MY oldest i, was, like okay
today's a phone, free day just give me. The phone
and she sat here for hours and made these, incredible
drawings something she wouldn't have done or even tapped into
if she's still been on the phone textan. All night,
(40:36):
you know just take it away for a. Little bit
it's okay to take. It away it's okay. To say
and if you take it away and you get a
response that is, just outrageous that's just another Sign, of
okay what's really, going on what's? Really happening why are
we so attached? To this what? Is happened, you know
why are we so addicted to this situation or to.
(40:58):
These devices these are things that we have to watch for,
because again they're not living in the days that we were.
Living in, you know they're not waking Up on saturday
mornings And watching saved By. The bell that's not. Happening
anymore that's a pretty. Good, times look we Still watch
save By the Bell on saturday Morning And fresh prince
Of bel air that and we watch. Them all we
put them ON a tv. In morning we're still being in.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Full house and.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Family matters we haven't started family, matters yet but we
still hold. All exactly we're all together and we make them.
Watch it, but anyway, you know do? These things do?
Speaker 3 (41:33):
These, Things, heyten meghan let's talk about if parents, are, realizing,
hey okay something's. Not right i'm noticing. Red flags what do?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You do?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Is there can we CALL? The fbi who do? You
call if you suspect or you've caught it? Red handed
you you now. Have, proof look these are the text
messages my child, was getting or here's. The messages what do?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
We do you can go to your local authorities and
this WAS something i specifically asked them on the. Phone
call but if it's something like this one, eight HUNDRED.
Call fbi so and you can call and you can
say this Is what. I'm noticing, because yes you can
go to other local authorities and. Handle it but sometimes
these are federal issues because you could be your child
(42:17):
can be talking to someone in a, different state and we,
never know so going to both will. Not hurt THAT'S
what i. Would DO and.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I stress this because people may not. KNOW it i
didn't know IT until i got into journalism that when
you go to your, local police they are limited to
only Your c if you go to the, sheriff's office
they're limited to your parish or, your county depending on where.
You live and then if you. Go federal the reason
we say go federal and the REASON the fbi has
taken over investigating This is megan Lives, in Louisiana and
(42:52):
i'm the one praying, on HER but i Live In.
New YORK claiming i Live. In louisiana the bat Reached
Police Department East bouttery's, Sheriff's office they technically can't even
touch THIS because i live all the way Out In.
New YORK, the fbi on the, other hand they can.
Get involved And, then megan let's go back to that
documentary you were saying that. She did the moms did
(43:13):
report it to the. Local, authorities unfortunately the local authorities
couldn't really get anywhere, with it and that's why the
locals did reach out TO the fbi and that's when
actually something. Came about SO the fbi does have maybe
a few more tools in their toolbox than some of
(43:33):
the local. Agencies do and in, this case you have
to remember this was, a really really really, small town
so it's a really small town, police department and they
maybe not don't have all those tools available LIKE the.
Fbi does but Now the feds are aware, of this
so they if you were, to call they would already
(43:55):
know what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
About exactly they know what they're, looking for and they
are they know far more than what, we know. You
know and so if you call them and you Tell
them i'm, noticing, this that, and that they can, Easily,
say okay this, is serious this is something we need to.
Look into don't sit there and question. By YOURSELF and
i would, also, say yes go to, the authorities but
prioritize your child and your child's experience and their mental
(44:19):
health throughout. The situation maybe, you, SAY well i can't
get in a therapist on my INSURANCE or i can't.
Afford it go to a school counselor go to, a
church find, a pastor, you know find someone and get
your child talking to someone and get healing and help for,
your child because the authorities may handle, it again and
they may do a, great job may not do a.
(44:41):
Great job at the end of, the day it is
our responsibility to take care and to product. Our children
you have to do one hundred percent of what we
can do to help. Our.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Kids, Yep ABSOLUTELY and i will just add to that
that if you, notice it and if you, see it sound,
THE alarm i don't care how loud, it is sound,
that alarm because as you, Just, said megan at the
end of, the day it is your responsibility as a
parent to protect. Your child, you, Yes yeah or you
(45:10):
notice it on your you've got your child's best friend
over and, something's off maybe tell, that parent.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Tell the, parent mentioned call. The parent if you can't call,
the parent call. The, school.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yep yep do what you have. To. DO megan i
appreciate you, joining us And really i'll even add THIS
that i am very thankful that you were so adamant
to stay on, this report that even WHEN the fbi
wouldn't return, your calls you just stayed true to it
(45:42):
and stayed ON the FBI that i want to talk,
about it and you. Got IT and i think this
is a really really important subject matter because it impacts you.
Know how sometimes we'll do a story and maybe it
impacts only, one parish or it impacts a certain. Age
group this impacts just about.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Everyone everyone, So everyone and if your kids are not
involved in this and they've learned, one, thing listen pay
attention to what's happening on your child's device something else
that's just. Really true like their kids might not say it,
out loud but they want you. To care they want
you to be. In there they want to know because
(46:19):
it signals to, those kids my, parents care they, are
interested they, are invested they want. To know they're going
to fight you on it and all the things and
say all, the things but deep down inside you're also
like meeting a need and that is to be wanted and. Cared. About.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yep, Yep, well meghan we appreciate you, joining us and to,
our listeners we hope that this podcast has been able
to teach you at least. One thing if, nothing else
go watch that documentary and then blame It on. Meghan's
husband it Is, not megan blame it on.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Her.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Husband yep, as always we appreciate you listening and we
will see you on the next Episode Of louisiana unfiltered
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