September 18, 2025 • 29 mins
In this episode, Kiran Chawla sits down with Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry as he shares insights into the pressing issues facing Louisiana and outlines his vision and strategies for addressing them. Governor Landry details his proactive approach to crime reduction, including the recent implementation of a joint operation involving various federal and state law enforcement agencies, which has successfully targeted gang members and violent offenders and the potential involvement of the National Guard as a supplemental resource for local law enforcement in the state.
Chapters
0:32 The Fight Against Crime
10:59 Addressing Teacher Support
13:24 Insurance Challenges
18:27 State Budget and Efficiency
22:23 Infrastructure and Traffic Issues
25:15 Economic Development Insights
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Chapters
0:32 The Fight Against Crime
10:59 Addressing Teacher Support
13:24 Insurance Challenges
18:27 State Budget and Efficiency
22:23 Infrastructure and Traffic Issues
25:15 Economic Development Insights
Local Sponsors for this episode include:
Neighbors Federal Credit Union:
Another Chance Bail Bonds:
Dudley DeBosier Injury Lawyers
Sound and Editing for this audio podcast by Envision Podcast Production:
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Today we are sitting down with Governor Jeff Landry for
a candidate interview. We are talking about the direction of
the state from education, economy to public safety. Louisiana is
at a crossroads and the decisions being made now will
shape our future for decades to come. We're going beyond
(00:57):
the headlines and press releases to hear directly from the
governor about his priorities, his vision, and how his administration
is tackling the challenges ahead. I'm Karen Challa. Here. Now
is Governor Jeff Landry. Unfiltered Governor, thank you so much
(01:31):
for agreeing to sit down.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And talk to us. Oh, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I want to talk about what affects anybody and everybody crime.
Let's first start with we're hearing rumors that Trump's administration
is discussing sending National Guard to Louisiana City, specifically New
Orleans and Baton Rouge. Can you talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, First of all, I think it's important that we
put it all in context, you know. I think there's
way more hype around those comments than is warranted. One
of the first things I did after the terrorist attack
in the early mornings of New Year's Day on Berber
Street was pick up the phone and call General Freelou
and say, General, how many troops can you put in
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the quarter. I didn't have to call a president for that,
I could do it myself. I did it why, because
we needed a force multiplier to be able to secure
what was at that time the largest crime scene ever
in the city in New Orleans. And so what the
National Guard does is it creates a force multiplier.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It puts more boots on the ground.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I think that what the President is doing is highlighting
the need for more action in some of our most
deadliest cities around the country. I mean, everyone knows that
we have been facing a crime wave, of violent crime
wave epidemic that has swept throughout vast portions of America,
and so I'll welcome any federal resources that they want
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to bring.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, look, just this summer.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
We instituted right here in bat Rouge, Operation Violent Crime
Crime Crackdown, which we used FBI HSI atf DEA, LSP,
the Sheriff's Office BRPD in conjunction with the US Attorney's
Office and the District Attorney's office, and we started to
see the ability for us to affect violent crime through
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getting some of those bad gang members off of the street.
It's something that we want to do more of that
doesn't happen. I think this is important that doesn't happen
without the support of a President of the United States
and his cabinet. Having the US Department of Justice at
the table with you as you're planning these out makes
a big difference. I learned that as the Attorney General
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during Trump's first administration, when now federal Judge David Joseph
was the US Attorney for the Western District and we
were seeing a lot of violent crime up in the
Monroe area. We do commission some of the my AG's
prosecutors to be able to take crimes both.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
In federal court and state court. You may say some
people may say, well, why why?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Because if you are caught in possession of a narcotic
of an illegal drug with a firearm, that you can
be charged federally and it's mandatory minimums and you're going
to the federal penitentiary under which you're going to do
eighty five percent of your time, Meaning there are some
stiff consequences for being caught and convicted under those charges.
(04:35):
And you see the criminal element know where there are
consequences and take their trade somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, what is your opinion on bat Ridge crime?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Look, I think that Baton Rouge has a very similar
problem as the city of New Orleans, although not quite
as bad. Again, people have heard me say this, The
criminal justice system is like a three legged stool. One
leg is law enforcement, one leg is the prosecutor, and
(05:07):
one leg is the court is the judges, and then
a law kind of sits up on top of it.
You can have the best police force in the world,
but if they're arresting people and judges are letting them out,
or prosecutors are not taking the cases to court and
putting them behind bars, then the system doesn't work. All
(05:29):
three legs of that stel have to be solid in
New Orleans, there were no legs left.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
In this city.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
We've got a pretty good law enforcement component, and you've
got a good District Attorney's office. I think you've got
a judge problem here in this city, and it's something
that we're getting ready to start working on legislatively. I
think that the District Attorney's office needs some more resources.
We're looking at the way that warrants are issued and
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allocated around the state so that DA's with heavy case
loads of getting the resources that they need. We know
that the criminal court funding is not as adequate as
it should be. I mean, look, in all honesty, we
support our criminal justice court system in the state on
traffic tickets, and then we wonder why are insurance rates
are at high?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Again, those are things that we need to look.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
At because we want all three of those legs to
be solid.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You acknowledged a very important part judges. Judges are a
big problem. It's a revolving door. It's been something we
have covered extensively. In fact, one investigation led to a
local judge under judicial review. But what can be done
about it? Well, who holds a judge accountable?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, the good news is is that in a last session,
we actually revamped the Judicial Commission and then appointed some
people that we felt we're going to finally take a
stand and.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Take a deep look.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And we've seen the Supreme Court do some unprecedented things.
I think they're like two or three judges that are
the suspension right now by the Supreme Court. That's something
that the Supreme Court hasn't done before, and maybe they
thought they didn't want to do that because they would
expose things in the judiciary. I don't believe that. I
think that the judiciary has, for whatever reason, at the
(07:17):
district level, started to deteriorate and it's time for the
Supreme Court and the Commission to step in. So I
would say, let's give the Judiciary Commission, a new Judiciary Commission,
some opportunity to get their legs underneath them and see
where they're going.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
As you say, stories like what you put out.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Give the Judiciary Commission the ability to probe and to
be probative into those judges' actions, and then if the
evidence supports it, remove them.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, crime overall, even though people don't want to admit this.
New Orleans, when you came in, you were very hard.
Your platform was crime you stood behind that. New Orleans
got Troop NOLA. We've seen the decrease bat Rouge the summer,
who has actually not been as active if people may
not want to admit that. So if crime is actually
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starting to come down, does the National Guard still weren't
coming into.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Lee Well, I mean, you know it, again we focus
on the National Guard, or do we have a problem
if the FBI comes in.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Do we have a problem if atf comes into it.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Again, you would utilize the National Guard if you need
a force multiplier quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Look, what I would tell you is that we wanted
to go to New Orleans. Why because it was one
of the top ten most dangerous cities in the world.
And we figured if we could go into the city
in New Orleans and we could find some degree of success,
then we could replicate it to other states as well.
It's why we ran the operation Violent Crime Cracked Down
with the FEDS this summer. Of course, we needed the
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help of the President and his administration to be able
to really lean in and do that. It's something that
we're going to continue to do. It's something that we're
going to look at replicating in Alexandria. And Shreetport, in
other cities and even small towns as well. The good
news is is that we've got the ear of the
White House, We've got the telephone numbers of the thirty
General Cash Ptell and I talk very frequently. He's always said, Jeff,
(09:08):
tell me what you need and we'll send it down there.
And so we want to do that. I think that
another couple. I think that one of the things that
the National Guard could do is help us with our
homeless situation. I mean, look, I was talking to a
mayor of one of the other cities, not bat Rouge,
not in New Orleans, and asking him about his census
count of homeless people, and quite frankly, it surprised me
(09:30):
that it was as high as he said it was.
And I think that that earns a real important discussion.
I think that Congress is going to have to act.
It's something that needs to be addressed because I think
that thirty percent of the homeless population is really a
group of mentally stable people that need some institutional care.
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I think thirty percent can probably be helped and have
some substance abuse problems as well. Another thirty percent of
more mostly substance abuse another ten percent are quite frankly,
a bunch of criminals that use the homeless population to
basically camouflage or to carry out their illegal drug activity
or human trafficking. They pray on those people, and it
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really is inhumane and it doesn't do us any good
to have people out there littering out the streets in
today's time. It really is. It's inexcusable and it needs
to be addressed. And we saw the President address that.
Let me just say this, we saw the President address
that in Washington, we address that in New Orleans leading
up to the Super Bowl. But we spent a tremendous
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amount of money, and six months later, we're starting to
see those encampments creep up again, which says that, hey,
maybe we didn't do as good of a job as
we needed to be able to get those people where
they need to be. And the question is are those
programs really available or do we have to rebuild those things.
Those are discussions that we're having with the HUD Secretary
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and with the Attorney General at the federal level, and
with Congress.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Governor. Let's switch gears to teachers. They you've said this
law enforcement teachers that are the backbones. Teachers are teaching
the future of America. You pushed hard for your Amendment
number two, but it failed. So what else is in
the works to support the teachers their stupments. Louisiana teachers
ranked towards the bottom of pay when it comes to
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the national average. I guess what's in the works to
kind of make sure that teachers want to or potential
people want to still be teachers and the current teachers
remain teachers.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, look, we.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Did a lot we put we we did the first
step let the teachers teach program, and we brought teachers
in to tell us, Hey, what are the things that
government has placed on your shoulders that is unnecessary or
gets in the way.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Between you teaching your student.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
A lot of the things that will applied it on
teacher shoulders basically created social workers rather than teachers. We
wanted to scrape those out, and a legislate you has
begun that review as well. The amendment that we put
up was designed to be able to get teachers a
permanent pay raise.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll take I'll tell you, look, I'll take full blame
for that. It was a failure in communication.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We allowed outside organizations to basically put misinformation and disinformation
out there, and I don't think the teachers really understood
what was packaged in it. After the failure of that amendment,
I sent every teacher in the state a letter. Then
we began working on repackaging that amendment, and we passed it,
and now it's back in the voter's hands. I said
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the teachers a letter again right at the end of
the session, saying, look, let me tell you what we've done.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We listened to what people were saying out there.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
We repackage it, we broke it up into components, and
we'll see if they if they take it. Look, it
is one of the most fiscally responsible opportunities for us
to give teachers the most permanent pay raise they've ever had.
Right now, they've got a stipend. It was given on
the way out of the door. It was really irresponsible
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in the way that we because it's basically saying, you're
worth two thousand dollars a year, but I can only
give it to you this year, and I don't know
about next year, and I'm not going to be here
next year. So too bad, so sad. That's what the
last administration, in the last Lega say she did. I
don't want to leave this office as governor without a
permanent structure that gives teachers the ability to earn what
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they need in order to stay in the classroom.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, let's switch to insurance. You really really worked on
car insurances and we're starting to see a little bit
of a drop. Are there other things in the works
to bring those down? While we're on insurance, talk to
me about home insurance as well. There are a lot
of people who are struggling to even make that note.
Is there anything in the works to do the same
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thing for home insurance?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, Look, it's a great problem. I mean, it's a
great question that raised. This is a significant problem. When
you ask the average citizen out there about insurance, they
say that insurance is a problem, right, but you have
to be a little more probative. Is it health insurance
they probably say yes. Is it core insurance they say yes?
(14:08):
Is it properly insurance? See how complicated it is. And
so what we did was we recognize that to fix
that it was part and parcel rather than one silver bullet,
and we were going to take a balanced approach. We
started doing some things on the property side, which we
did in the first year. In the second year we
doubled down on auto insurance. And we've seen not just
a little record never before before. I went back and
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looked thirty years. In the last thirty years, no more
than five insurance carriers have asked for rate reductions in
a state this year twenty half. Okay, we address the
frivolous lawsuits and our legal system by really reigning in
those trial lawyers, but at the same time, we held
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insurance companies accountable as well. And I can tell you
the reason twenty insurance companies have rate reductions is because
of the balance approach that we took. And they can
no longer just blame the legal system because we've fixed
it and they can't.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Pick apart the legal system anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We're watching how they're spending their money as well, and
I think that our citizens are paying or paying less
because of it. On the property side, it's a complicated
problem that addresses both flood insurance, which is at the
national level. That's something that we've got to address there
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and in overall structure. Just the other day, I saw
one of the top periodicals, depok Times had an article
about how homeowners are no longer really worried about the
granted countertops. They're more worried about the roof in the windows,
and not just in Louisiana, but in places like Illinois,
in Montana, in California, because people are starting to say, hey,
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can my house withstand natural disasters?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And if I.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Build to those particular codes, do I get a break
from insurance companies? And you're seeing insurance companies respond to that.
One of the most underutilized programs right now is the
Fortified roof program.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Or what they call.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
You can go out and you can get a win
mitigation survey. New Norman said this on the show the
other day. I didn't even realize that. It goes to
show you how the lack of communication is out there.
But you can go out there and have someone do
a survey or on your roof, and if it's to
a particular standard, automatically get a deduction on your insurance.
(16:31):
One of the things that we did was right now
on our website at the Governor's official website, at the
top banner.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You can click and you can see the top ten
property insurance companies that get the deepest discounts for.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
A fortified roof. Why because we want to encourage people
to do that. Why is it important? Because if people
start fortifying their roofs and building structurally to those standards.
They say that when twenty percent of the structures in
a geographic co area meet that particular code, insurance costs
around the entire geographical area come down. So the more.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
People participate, the better benefit it is. It's like a.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
High tide that lifts all boats. So I think that
in this next session we need to look more about
how we can better form our citizens with the twos
necessary to drive their insurance costs down. I was in
Iberia Parish during a session who are going through it?
And I asked an Iberia parish so coastal parish how
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many of them had heard of a fortified root program?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
And out a two hundred people like three.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You see what I'm saying, Like, we're failing in that
in that instance. And I also think that people aren't
taking the time to really shop their insurance. They may
feel comfortable with their agent. They got a great agent.
I got a great agent, but sometimes you got to
shop it around. And the difference between before and now
is now we've given those citizens the tools, especially when
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you're shopping auto insurance, you can find you can find
discounts right now and you can save a tremendous amount
on the auto insurance. And you can do so in
your property as well, if you can get into the
fortified roof or you just if your structure is built
to withstand some of that, and if not, we have
to find ways into which we can enhance our citizen's
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put a hiring freeze in and that's saved what twenty million?
(19:55):
What is their relief soon in sight for the hiring
freeze and and because of this hiring freeze, would you
say you have been able to reduce money.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Well, we saved a lot more than I mean the
hiring freeze again again, it is part and parcel of
more savings. I mean, we went in really saved some
significant money on our dose effort over at LDH, at DCF,
at OMV. We're utilizing, we're taking and dusting off some
of the legislative auditors reports of the past that pointed
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out efficiencies that could be made or deficiencies in agencies,
and we implement those and those end up with cost savings.
I just did a cabinet meeting today that under which
we continue to push our cabinet to find efficiencies inside
of their budgets, and then when they make those savings,
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we want to make the argument to the legislature to
let our departments keep their particular savings as long as
we plow it into technology.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Look. OMV is a example.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Okay, it wasn't that long ago where we went thirty
maybe sixty days where people couldn't even get a renewed
job's license. And that was because the system had been
built on software that was developed before you were born. Okay,
I mean think about that, before you were born. I
think I was maybe three or four.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't want to say he old I was. But
we went in.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
And we really doubled down on the patchwork, and then
we doubled down on placing new technology in the place,
and we bitted it out, and we asked those companies
for for milestones okay, inside the inside the contract. And
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you know what, when we were done, we started with
three companies. The company I thought and really wanted really.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
The company that was third ended up winning and we
to cost savings of thirty million dollars to the tax biker, right,
I mean think about.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That, And they did and their contract.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
They agreed to deliverables, and if they don't deliver, there's
penalties for not delivering it. And I think that that's
things that the business community in the private sector does
that the government doesn't. And so what we're going to
try to do is ensure that when you get a
government contract and you promise the government that you're going
to deliver on something, you're going to deliver on it
or you are going to be penalized for that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
So I know, I have only a few minutes left,
so if we can those were the main things I
wanted to talk to you. I'd like to see if
we could touch on a few other things.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Sure, traffic, traffic, yeah, I hate the city. Traffic.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, it takes you an hour to get.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well done. I live west of the Mississippi River, okay.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I as an attorney general, I would drive in for
Bruce Art all the way in the back rouge. I
understand that traffic congestion and live there just like everyone
else does as well. We also have to recognize is
that that traffic and our infrastructure problem is something that's
been seeping and degrading since two thousand and five or
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two thousand and seven. I remember the Advocate did a
big old peace back then. You can go look at it,
like a five point series on it in the summer
one year.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I remember reading it.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
At the time, we got a five or six billion
dollar backlog. Today we've got an eleven or fourteen billion,
depending on who you ask. We just reorganized the Department
of Transportation and Development.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We parceled out.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
We now have an Office of Louisiana Highway Construction, under
which if a portion of infrastructure is one hundred percent
funded by state government, it's going to be governed by
that agency. We issued a declaration of emergency because we
got so many bridges out it's like ridiculous, and we
just put we just put out a package under which
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we're going to repair sixty three bridges.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
An Archie Chasson, who's heading the new Office of louise
In a highway construction he comes from local government, is
tasked when ensuring that those bridges get constructed on a
timely manner. We're looking at the bump projects. We one
of the things that I'm hoping, okay, is that the
economic the economic opportunity and the prospects that we've gotten,
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like this Honday steel mill on the west side of
the river, is going to help the drive the bridge
that we finally the city finally needs to help also
reduce some traffic congestion. And look at what we did
in Lake Charles. You know, for thirty years they've been
needing a bridge. That bridge is deplorable, Okay, Like you know,
I should say it, but I don't drive over it.
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I'm concerned about it, right, And but once in f
all we doubled down, we're gonna toll it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I know people didn't like the toilet. I don't like
the toilet. But we also.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Recognize that sixty to seventy percent of the people that
are going to go over that bridge or not from Louisiana,
and they're gonna pay for this infrastructure. And yet now
the state of Louisiana has a fifteen percent stake in
that bridge. And once that bridge is paid, all fifteen
cents on every dollar is going to stay in the
southwest portion of the state to build new infrastructure. Think
about if we did the same thing here in Baton
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Rouge as well. I think we can cut those same
deals and get that bridge built.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I didn't get to ask you economic development. We already
know what's coming. What about Is there anything you can
even tell us that is in the works or are
possibly coming.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
There is so much in the works I couldn't go
through it. I mean is we've got great opportunities here.
What we want to make sure is that we do
it smart. We work with our corporate partners so that
we don't commit the sins of the past. Where they
come in here, they reap all the benefits, and then
we get our local governments and state governments get left
providing the services without the resources necessary. We're doing it
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in a more partnership manner. We're talking to them where
you're seeing things like the pilots and different eye tips
and different infrastructure needs that not only help the companies
to locate, but also help our citizens as well.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Last question, your self evaluation of yourself and what all
you've done in the last two years where we kind
of were Louisiana's ranking. When you talk to other governors
and what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Look, I think, I think that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It's unbelievable how far we've come and how short of
a time. What I am realizing is that is that
the people of this state haven't had an opportunity to
absorb it, and that in the past they've lost faith
in credit in their state government from either empty promises
from politicians not fulfilling. It has just left the solid taste,
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and so sometimes when they see that economic opportunity, that
economic progress, they believe it may be short live, because
that's maybe what history has told us before. But what
I will say is what I believe we've done structurally
is begin to turn that in a direction under which
they will have faith. And what we're seeing is historic
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economic progress. North Louisiana has never ever in the history
of the state seen them out of investment that's coming
in there. The tax reform that we have done has
been things that legislators and past legislators have wanted to
do for over thirty years. You go to par you
go to Cable, you ask them. They've all made the
(27:26):
same recommendations and all not been able to have the
progress that we made done like we made when we
did the tax reform.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Can we do more, Yes, can we do better? Always?
And so I would just tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That we're going to continue to take a with it
until we leave state government as good as the people
of the state.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I lied. One last question. Is there anything you
want to say to the people that I did not
get to ask? And I know we're kind of limited
on time.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No, Look, I think that I think that I would
ask the people of this state to really reflect on
where they were five years ago and what they thought
of the state of Louisiana five years ago, or what
they saw and what other people thought of the state
of Louisiana, and then reflect on where we are today
and understand and appreciate the historic significance of the progress
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that we have made. It is the beginning, not the end.
It really creates I think a new chapter. What we've
said is the greatest story that has yet to be
written about. But I want them to know that there
is a tremendous amount of responsibility now but falls on them.
As this legislature, in this administration give them the tools.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Necessary to be successful, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Incumbent upon the citizens to pick those tools up and
use them as well. And I tell you, if they
do that, Louisiana is We're going to write a chapter
that has not been written in this state before.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, Governor, we really appreciate you taking the time out
to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Today we are sitting down with Governor Jeff Landry for
a candidate interview. We are talking about the direction of
the state from education, economy to public safety. Louisiana is
at a crossroads and the decisions being made now will
shape our future for decades to come. We're going beyond
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the headlines and press releases to hear directly from the
governor about his priorities, his vision, and how his administration
is tackling the challenges ahead. I'm Karen Challa. Here. Now
is Governor Jeff Landry. Unfiltered Governor, thank you so much
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for agreeing to sit down.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
And talk to us. Oh, it's my pleasure.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I want to talk about what affects anybody and everybody crime.
Let's first start with we're hearing rumors that Trump's administration
is discussing sending National Guard to Louisiana City, specifically New
Orleans and Baton Rouge. Can you talk about that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, First of all, I think it's important that we
put it all in context, you know. I think there's
way more hype around those comments than is warranted. One
of the first things I did after the terrorist attack
in the early mornings of New Year's Day on Berber
Street was pick up the phone and call General Freelou
and say, General, how many troops can you put in
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the quarter. I didn't have to call a president for that,
I could do it myself. I did it why, because
we needed a force multiplier to be able to secure
what was at that time the largest crime scene ever
in the city in New Orleans. And so what the
National Guard does is it creates a force multiplier.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It puts more boots on the ground.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I think that what the President is doing is highlighting
the need for more action in some of our most
deadliest cities around the country. I mean, everyone knows that
we have been facing a crime wave, of violent crime
wave epidemic that has swept throughout vast portions of America,
and so I'll welcome any federal resources that they want
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to bring.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, look, just this summer.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
We instituted right here in bat Rouge, Operation Violent Crime
Crime Crackdown, which we used FBI HSI atf DEA, LSP,
the Sheriff's Office BRPD in conjunction with the US Attorney's
Office and the District Attorney's office, and we started to
see the ability for us to affect violent crime through
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getting some of those bad gang members off of the street.
It's something that we want to do more of that
doesn't happen. I think this is important that doesn't happen
without the support of a President of the United States
and his cabinet. Having the US Department of Justice at
the table with you as you're planning these out makes
a big difference. I learned that as the Attorney General
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during Trump's first administration, when now federal Judge David Joseph
was the US Attorney for the Western District and we
were seeing a lot of violent crime up in the
Monroe area. We do commission some of the my AG's
prosecutors to be able to take crimes both.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
In federal court and state court. You may say some
people may say, well, why why?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Because if you are caught in possession of a narcotic
of an illegal drug with a firearm, that you can
be charged federally and it's mandatory minimums and you're going
to the federal penitentiary under which you're going to do
eighty five percent of your time, Meaning there are some
stiff consequences for being caught and convicted under those charges.
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And you see the criminal element know where there are
consequences and take their trade somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, what is your opinion on bat Ridge crime?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Look, I think that Baton Rouge has a very similar
problem as the city of New Orleans, although not quite
as bad. Again, people have heard me say this, The
criminal justice system is like a three legged stool. One
leg is law enforcement, one leg is the prosecutor, and
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one leg is the court is the judges, and then
a law kind of sits up on top of it.
You can have the best police force in the world,
but if they're arresting people and judges are letting them out,
or prosecutors are not taking the cases to court and
putting them behind bars, then the system doesn't work. All
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three legs of that stel have to be solid in
New Orleans, there were no legs left.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
In this city.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
We've got a pretty good law enforcement component, and you've
got a good District Attorney's office. I think you've got
a judge problem here in this city, and it's something
that we're getting ready to start working on legislatively. I
think that the District Attorney's office needs some more resources.
We're looking at the way that warrants are issued and
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allocated around the state so that DA's with heavy case
loads of getting the resources that they need. We know
that the criminal court funding is not as adequate as
it should be. I mean, look, in all honesty, we
support our criminal justice court system in the state on
traffic tickets, and then we wonder why are insurance rates
are at high?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Again, those are things that we need to look.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
At because we want all three of those legs to
be solid.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
You acknowledged a very important part judges. Judges are a
big problem. It's a revolving door. It's been something we
have covered extensively. In fact, one investigation led to a
local judge under judicial review. But what can be done
about it? Well, who holds a judge accountable?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Well, the good news is is that in a last session,
we actually revamped the Judicial Commission and then appointed some
people that we felt we're going to finally take a
stand and.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Take a deep look.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And we've seen the Supreme Court do some unprecedented things.
I think they're like two or three judges that are
the suspension right now by the Supreme Court. That's something
that the Supreme Court hasn't done before, and maybe they
thought they didn't want to do that because they would
expose things in the judiciary. I don't believe that. I
think that the judiciary has, for whatever reason, at the
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district level, started to deteriorate and it's time for the
Supreme Court and the Commission to step in. So I
would say, let's give the Judiciary Commission, a new Judiciary Commission,
some opportunity to get their legs underneath them and see
where they're going.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
As you say, stories like what you put out.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Give the Judiciary Commission the ability to probe and to
be probative into those judges' actions, and then if the
evidence supports it, remove them.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Okay, crime overall, even though people don't want to admit this.
New Orleans, when you came in, you were very hard.
Your platform was crime you stood behind that. New Orleans
got Troop NOLA. We've seen the decrease bat Rouge the summer,
who has actually not been as active if people may
not want to admit that. So if crime is actually
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starting to come down, does the National Guard still weren't
coming into.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Lee Well, I mean, you know it, again we focus
on the National Guard, or do we have a problem
if the FBI comes in.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Do we have a problem if atf comes into it.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Again, you would utilize the National Guard if you need
a force multiplier quickly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Look, what I would tell you is that we wanted
to go to New Orleans. Why because it was one
of the top ten most dangerous cities in the world.
And we figured if we could go into the city
in New Orleans and we could find some degree of success,
then we could replicate it to other states as well.
It's why we ran the operation Violent Crime Cracked Down
with the FEDS this summer. Of course, we needed the
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help of the President and his administration to be able
to really lean in and do that. It's something that
we're going to continue to do. It's something that we're
going to look at replicating in Alexandria. And Shreetport, in
other cities and even small towns as well. The good
news is is that we've got the ear of the
White House, We've got the telephone numbers of the thirty
General Cash Ptell and I talk very frequently. He's always said, Jeff,
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tell me what you need and we'll send it down there.
And so we want to do that. I think that
another couple. I think that one of the things that
the National Guard could do is help us with our
homeless situation. I mean, look, I was talking to a
mayor of one of the other cities, not bat Rouge,
not in New Orleans, and asking him about his census
count of homeless people, and quite frankly, it surprised me
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that it was as high as he said it was.
And I think that that earns a real important discussion.
I think that Congress is going to have to act.
It's something that needs to be addressed because I think
that thirty percent of the homeless population is really a
group of mentally stable people that need some institutional care.
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I think thirty percent can probably be helped and have
some substance abuse problems as well. Another thirty percent of
more mostly substance abuse another ten percent are quite frankly,
a bunch of criminals that use the homeless population to
basically camouflage or to carry out their illegal drug activity
or human trafficking. They pray on those people, and it
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really is inhumane and it doesn't do us any good
to have people out there littering out the streets in
today's time. It really is. It's inexcusable and it needs
to be addressed. And we saw the President address that.
Let me just say this, we saw the President address
that in Washington, we address that in New Orleans leading
up to the Super Bowl. But we spent a tremendous
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amount of money, and six months later, we're starting to
see those encampments creep up again, which says that, hey,
maybe we didn't do as good of a job as
we needed to be able to get those people where
they need to be. And the question is are those
programs really available or do we have to rebuild those things.
Those are discussions that we're having with the HUD Secretary
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and with the Attorney General at the federal level, and
with Congress.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Governor. Let's switch gears to teachers. They you've said this
law enforcement teachers that are the backbones. Teachers are teaching
the future of America. You pushed hard for your Amendment
number two, but it failed. So what else is in
the works to support the teachers their stupments. Louisiana teachers
ranked towards the bottom of pay when it comes to
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the national average. I guess what's in the works to
kind of make sure that teachers want to or potential
people want to still be teachers and the current teachers
remain teachers.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, look, we.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Did a lot we put we we did the first
step let the teachers teach program, and we brought teachers
in to tell us, Hey, what are the things that
government has placed on your shoulders that is unnecessary or
gets in the way.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Between you teaching your student.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
A lot of the things that will applied it on
teacher shoulders basically created social workers rather than teachers. We
wanted to scrape those out, and a legislate you has
begun that review as well. The amendment that we put
up was designed to be able to get teachers a
permanent pay raise.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I'll take I'll tell you, look, I'll take full blame
for that. It was a failure in communication.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
We allowed outside organizations to basically put misinformation and disinformation
out there, and I don't think the teachers really understood
what was packaged in it. After the failure of that amendment,
I sent every teacher in the state a letter. Then
we began working on repackaging that amendment, and we passed it,
and now it's back in the voter's hands. I said
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the teachers a letter again right at the end of
the session, saying, look, let me tell you what we've done.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We listened to what people were saying out there.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
We repackage it, we broke it up into components, and
we'll see if they if they take it. Look, it
is one of the most fiscally responsible opportunities for us
to give teachers the most permanent pay raise they've ever had.
Right now, they've got a stipend. It was given on
the way out of the door. It was really irresponsible
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in the way that we because it's basically saying, you're
worth two thousand dollars a year, but I can only
give it to you this year, and I don't know
about next year, and I'm not going to be here
next year. So too bad, so sad. That's what the
last administration, in the last Lega say she did. I
don't want to leave this office as governor without a
permanent structure that gives teachers the ability to earn what
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they need in order to stay in the classroom.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, let's switch to insurance. You really really worked on
car insurances and we're starting to see a little bit
of a drop. Are there other things in the works
to bring those down? While we're on insurance, talk to
me about home insurance as well. There are a lot
of people who are struggling to even make that note.
Is there anything in the works to do the same
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thing for home insurance?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Yeah, Look, it's a great problem. I mean, it's a
great question that raised. This is a significant problem. When
you ask the average citizen out there about insurance, they
say that insurance is a problem, right, but you have
to be a little more probative. Is it health insurance
they probably say yes. Is it core insurance they say yes?
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Is it properly insurance? See how complicated it is. And
so what we did was we recognize that to fix
that it was part and parcel rather than one silver bullet,
and we were going to take a balanced approach. We
started doing some things on the property side, which we
did in the first year. In the second year we
doubled down on auto insurance. And we've seen not just
a little record never before before. I went back and
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looked thirty years. In the last thirty years, no more
than five insurance carriers have asked for rate reductions in
a state this year twenty half. Okay, we address the
frivolous lawsuits and our legal system by really reigning in
those trial lawyers, but at the same time, we held
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insurance companies accountable as well. And I can tell you
the reason twenty insurance companies have rate reductions is because
of the balance approach that we took. And they can
no longer just blame the legal system because we've fixed
it and they can't.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Pick apart the legal system anymore.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
We're watching how they're spending their money as well, and
I think that our citizens are paying or paying less
because of it. On the property side, it's a complicated
problem that addresses both flood insurance, which is at the
national level. That's something that we've got to address there
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and in overall structure. Just the other day, I saw
one of the top periodicals, depok Times had an article
about how homeowners are no longer really worried about the
granted countertops. They're more worried about the roof in the windows,
and not just in Louisiana, but in places like Illinois,
in Montana, in California, because people are starting to say, hey,
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can my house withstand natural disasters?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And if I.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Build to those particular codes, do I get a break
from insurance companies? And you're seeing insurance companies respond to that.
One of the most underutilized programs right now is the
Fortified roof program.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Or what they call.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
You can go out and you can get a win
mitigation survey. New Norman said this on the show the
other day. I didn't even realize that. It goes to
show you how the lack of communication is out there.
But you can go out there and have someone do
a survey or on your roof, and if it's to
a particular standard, automatically get a deduction on your insurance.
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One of the things that we did was right now
on our website at the Governor's official website, at the
top banner.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You can click and you can see the top ten
property insurance companies that get the deepest discounts for.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
A fortified roof. Why because we want to encourage people
to do that. Why is it important? Because if people
start fortifying their roofs and building structurally to those standards.
They say that when twenty percent of the structures in
a geographic co area meet that particular code, insurance costs
around the entire geographical area come down. So the more.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
People participate, the better benefit it is. It's like a.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
High tide that lifts all boats. So I think that
in this next session we need to look more about
how we can better form our citizens with the twos
necessary to drive their insurance costs down. I was in
Iberia Parish during a session who are going through it?
And I asked an Iberia parish so coastal parish how
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many of them had heard of a fortified root program?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
And out a two hundred people like three.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
You see what I'm saying, Like, we're failing in that
in that instance. And I also think that people aren't
taking the time to really shop their insurance. They may
feel comfortable with their agent. They got a great agent.
I got a great agent, but sometimes you got to
shop it around. And the difference between before and now
is now we've given those citizens the tools, especially when
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you're shopping auto insurance, you can find you can find
discounts right now and you can save a tremendous amount
on the auto insurance. And you can do so in
your property as well, if you can get into the
fortified roof or you just if your structure is built
to withstand some of that, and if not, we have
to find ways into which we can enhance our citizen's
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ability to fortify their roofs.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
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put a hiring freeze in and that's saved what twenty million?
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What is their relief soon in sight for the hiring
freeze and and because of this hiring freeze, would you
say you have been able to reduce money.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Well, we saved a lot more than I mean the
hiring freeze again again, it is part and parcel of
more savings. I mean, we went in really saved some
significant money on our dose effort over at LDH, at DCF,
at OMV. We're utilizing, we're taking and dusting off some
of the legislative auditors reports of the past that pointed
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out efficiencies that could be made or deficiencies in agencies,
and we implement those and those end up with cost savings.
I just did a cabinet meeting today that under which
we continue to push our cabinet to find efficiencies inside
of their budgets, and then when they make those savings,
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we want to make the argument to the legislature to
let our departments keep their particular savings as long as
we plow it into technology.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Look. OMV is a example.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Okay, it wasn't that long ago where we went thirty
maybe sixty days where people couldn't even get a renewed
job's license. And that was because the system had been
built on software that was developed before you were born. Okay,
I mean think about that, before you were born. I
think I was maybe three or four.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't want to say he old I was. But
we went in.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
And we really doubled down on the patchwork, and then
we doubled down on placing new technology in the place,
and we bitted it out, and we asked those companies
for for milestones okay, inside the inside the contract. And
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you know what, when we were done, we started with
three companies. The company I thought and really wanted really.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
The company that was third ended up winning and we
to cost savings of thirty million dollars to the tax biker, right,
I mean think about.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That, And they did and their contract.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
They agreed to deliverables, and if they don't deliver, there's
penalties for not delivering it. And I think that that's
things that the business community in the private sector does
that the government doesn't. And so what we're going to
try to do is ensure that when you get a
government contract and you promise the government that you're going
to deliver on something, you're going to deliver on it
or you are going to be penalized for that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
So I know, I have only a few minutes left,
so if we can those were the main things I
wanted to talk to you. I'd like to see if
we could touch on a few other things.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Sure, traffic, traffic, yeah, I hate the city. Traffic.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, it takes you an hour to get.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well done. I live west of the Mississippi River, okay.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
I as an attorney general, I would drive in for
Bruce Art all the way in the back rouge. I
understand that traffic congestion and live there just like everyone
else does as well. We also have to recognize is
that that traffic and our infrastructure problem is something that's
been seeping and degrading since two thousand and five or
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two thousand and seven. I remember the Advocate did a
big old peace back then. You can go look at it,
like a five point series on it in the summer
one year.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I remember reading it.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
At the time, we got a five or six billion
dollar backlog. Today we've got an eleven or fourteen billion,
depending on who you ask. We just reorganized the Department
of Transportation and Development.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We parceled out.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
We now have an Office of Louisiana Highway Construction, under
which if a portion of infrastructure is one hundred percent
funded by state government, it's going to be governed by
that agency. We issued a declaration of emergency because we
got so many bridges out it's like ridiculous, and we
just put we just put out a package under which
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we're going to repair sixty three bridges.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
An Archie Chasson, who's heading the new Office of louise
In a highway construction he comes from local government, is
tasked when ensuring that those bridges get constructed on a
timely manner. We're looking at the bump projects. We one
of the things that I'm hoping, okay, is that the
economic the economic opportunity and the prospects that we've gotten,
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like this Honday steel mill on the west side of
the river, is going to help the drive the bridge
that we finally the city finally needs to help also
reduce some traffic congestion. And look at what we did
in Lake Charles. You know, for thirty years they've been
needing a bridge. That bridge is deplorable, Okay, Like you know,
I should say it, but I don't drive over it.
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I'm concerned about it, right, And but once in f
all we doubled down, we're gonna toll it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I know people didn't like the toilet. I don't like
the toilet. But we also.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Recognize that sixty to seventy percent of the people that
are going to go over that bridge or not from Louisiana,
and they're gonna pay for this infrastructure. And yet now
the state of Louisiana has a fifteen percent stake in
that bridge. And once that bridge is paid, all fifteen
cents on every dollar is going to stay in the
southwest portion of the state to build new infrastructure. Think
about if we did the same thing here in Baton
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Rouge as well. I think we can cut those same
deals and get that bridge built.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I didn't get to ask you economic development. We already
know what's coming. What about Is there anything you can
even tell us that is in the works or are
possibly coming.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
There is so much in the works I couldn't go
through it. I mean is we've got great opportunities here.
What we want to make sure is that we do
it smart. We work with our corporate partners so that
we don't commit the sins of the past. Where they
come in here, they reap all the benefits, and then
we get our local governments and state governments get left
providing the services without the resources necessary. We're doing it
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in a more partnership manner. We're talking to them where
you're seeing things like the pilots and different eye tips
and different infrastructure needs that not only help the companies
to locate, but also help our citizens as well.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Last question, your self evaluation of yourself and what all
you've done in the last two years where we kind
of were Louisiana's ranking. When you talk to other governors
and what's next for you?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Look, I think, I think that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It's unbelievable how far we've come and how short of
a time. What I am realizing is that is that
the people of this state haven't had an opportunity to
absorb it, and that in the past they've lost faith
in credit in their state government from either empty promises
from politicians not fulfilling. It has just left the solid taste,
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and so sometimes when they see that economic opportunity, that
economic progress, they believe it may be short live, because
that's maybe what history has told us before. But what
I will say is what I believe we've done structurally
is begin to turn that in a direction under which
they will have faith. And what we're seeing is historic
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economic progress. North Louisiana has never ever in the history
of the state seen them out of investment that's coming
in there. The tax reform that we have done has
been things that legislators and past legislators have wanted to
do for over thirty years. You go to par you
go to Cable, you ask them. They've all made the
(27:26):
same recommendations and all not been able to have the
progress that we made done like we made when we
did the tax reform.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Can we do more, Yes, can we do better? Always?
And so I would just tell you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That we're going to continue to take a with it
until we leave state government as good as the people
of the state.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And I lied. One last question. Is there anything you
want to say to the people that I did not
get to ask? And I know we're kind of limited
on time.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No, Look, I think that I think that I would
ask the people of this state to really reflect on
where they were five years ago and what they thought
of the state of Louisiana five years ago, or what
they saw and what other people thought of the state
of Louisiana, and then reflect on where we are today
and understand and appreciate the historic significance of the progress
(28:16):
that we have made. It is the beginning, not the end.
It really creates I think a new chapter. What we've
said is the greatest story that has yet to be
written about. But I want them to know that there
is a tremendous amount of responsibility now but falls on them.
As this legislature, in this administration give them the tools.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Necessary to be successful, it's.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Incumbent upon the citizens to pick those tools up and
use them as well. And I tell you, if they
do that, Louisiana is We're going to write a chapter
that has not been written in this state before.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Well, Governor, we really appreciate you taking the time out
to talk to us.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, thank you, thank you.
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