August 13, 2025 • 43 mins
In this episode of Love Like Crazy, Jay and Stacey sit down with their friend, chiropractor, worship leader, and local business owner Dr. Ben Black for an inspiring conversation on health, faith, and taking care of the body God gave you.
From Ben’s journey into chiropractic care after a sports injury, to his experience as a CrossFit coach, and even his surprising background in vocal performance, this episode is packed with both practical tips and uplifting stories.
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From Ben’s journey into chiropractic care after a sports injury, to his experience as a CrossFit coach, and even his surprising background in vocal performance, this episode is packed with both practical tips and uplifting stories.
You’ll hear about:
- The connection between stress, pain, and overall health
- Why diet and daily movement matter more than we think
- How chiropractic care can help more than just injuries
- Ben’s role as a worship leader and how God used his talents in unexpected ways
- Funny behind-the-scenes stories about Oreos, CrossFit, and hiding snacks in the pantry
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Like, subscribe, and leave a comment with future topic suggestions Share this episode with friends or anyone facing a tough season
Join us next time as Jay and Stacey share more insightful and family based content.
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Love Like Crazy Podcast.
We're your hosts Jy and Stacy Coleman, and we're here
today with a good friend of ours who is a
member of our church but also a local business owner,
and so we're going to just jump in and have
a great conversation with him today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
All right, Well, Stacy, I got to tell you before
we dive off into this, I do want to talk
to all the ones who are watching this and just
tell you how much we appreciate you. You guys have
helped us to build this podcast and it's growing week
after week and I just want to say thank you,
And so do me a favor, help us continue to
move forward by liking this, by giving us a review,
(01:00):
maybe even giving us a comment. Maybe you have an
idea of something you'd like to hear us talk about,
and so with that, leave us a comment. And if
you are watching on YouTube, make sure that you subscribe.
That helps upcoming episodes, that'll let you know what we
have coming up, but it also helps us to grow
our YouTube channel as well. And so Stacey's right, and
I notice you talked about that because you said a
(01:21):
good friend, it seems like we say that about all
of our because it's good friends that we have on here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We'd like to have good conversations with good friends.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, and Ben, I'm gonna let you introduce yourself to everybody,
but you and I actually we're kind of joking about this.
We met at the gym. Now you are a member
of our church, you're one of the worship leaders, and
we actually met you or I met you at the gym,
and I'm going to I'm gonna let you go ahead
and kind of introduce yourself to everybody, but I'm gonna
(01:48):
come back in a few minutes because I have a
great story about the gym that's so encouraging for me.
So Ben, tell us about yourself, tell us about your
family and what's going on in the life of Ben Black.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Absolutely well, thank you all for having me. Yeah, I'm
I'm I'm very tempted to keep messing with this mic
over and over again because I've never done this before.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But it's normal. It's normal.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to not fidget.
But my name is Ben Black. I am a chiropractor.
But I was born and raised in Central and you know,
I had the privilege of coming back and starting a
business here, which has been really really awesome, really encouraging.
But I am married to uh, to Emily Black. We've
(02:32):
been married for it'll be ten years in September. September nineteenth.
I didn't forget, so make sure. Yeah, yeah, point for me.
We got two girls. Charlotte who's six, she's in kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've never seen kids that look more like their daddy.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, yeah that's my Dad's got a quote about that
and I'm not gonna say it. And then uh, yeah,
so she's six, and then Cameron is two, so she
she's not in school yet. She gets to hang out
with my mom. Honey. Is her name? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What's she? What? They call you?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Dad, Papa, Papa, Papa.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Just like you, okay, Brnana and Papa.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Now, Emily's a school teacher in the community as well.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, she is. She's she's been a middle school teacher,
well longer than I've been a chiropractor. You know. She
was actually teaching when I was in school beforehand, so
at least she was making money at that time. But yeah,
she's been at Central Middle since we moved back in
twenty nineteen. Central She teaches sixth grade science.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Loves what she does. She does it was it depends
on the day.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean like any other job probably,
but but yeah, she really does. I think she she
really has a calling for for education in that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
That is a gifting to be able to mark with
shits like that.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I tell her every day I could never do what
she does, and I mean it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, you know, we start talking about the direction of
this particular episode, and I'm fastnated by what you do.
There's a lot of things about your life that just really,
you know, speak to me. But you and I met
at the gym. You were actually one of the coaches
at the gym that I was going to. Went that
gym for seven years and I have actually taken a
little break in this last year, but I know that
(04:16):
you were crossfitter, CrossFit competitions, all that type of stuff.
And the story that I'm going to tell is this.
We were actually doing weight training. We were in the
cycle of doing doing the weight training, and we got
to the point to where one day we were doing
bench press. You remember that day, Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Know where this is going.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, you know what this is.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I remember this.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
We were doing bench press, and we were in and
you can probably if you're watching on YouTube, you can
tell by the look of his arms versus my arms, Like, yeah,
because because he's a big time weightlifter, I'm not so much.
But when it came to bench press, at that time,
I was probably in the two twenty ish neighborhood, probably
max and out of it. I think that year I
might stout at like two fifty five something like that.
(05:03):
And so we were working out and you and I
were equal now on all the other stuff, squats, shoulder press,
all that stuff, not so much, but when it came
to bench press, I remember that day got on it
and You're like, yeah, I'll work out with you because
you know that's about where I'm at. And I'm like, really,
I am bench pressing equal to.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
The great, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And then you explain to me that you know, you
had a shoulder injury earlier in life and because of
that you can't bench press so much. And I'm like,
I don't care, I'll take it. I will take it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, No, that's that's a big reason I do. What
I do now is actually connected to probably that shoulder injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, Well, an injury for you was a life builder
for me because it maybe feel like the strong man
that day. Yeah, but now you are your chiropractor. And
I will tell you this. My wife has been all
about chiropractors the whole time that we've been together. And
I've shared this with you my mom.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I was raised like.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Chiropractors, they stay away from you know. So for years
I didn't go to a chiropractor. But I had an
injury in the gym, and a chiropractor is what got me,
got me up on my feet and got me moving again.
And you've actually treated me quite a few times throughout
the years. And so tell me what what Okay, it's
that injury is what led you in that direction, kind
(06:22):
of lead us into this. Tell us what why do
you do what you do?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah? So I saw I was a big sports guy
growing up. You know, I always played multiple sports as
a kid. My parents definitely ran me from from practice
to practice like mad people, and I appreciate them for that.
But during that time, you know you're gonna get injured.
You're gonna get injured sometimes. And so I was in
(06:47):
high school. I was at Parkview, I believe at the time. Uh,
and I did something in the weightlifting room that probably
shouldn't have been doing. Didn't really know what I was
doing all the way, and hat felt something in the shoulder.
Didn't know what really happened, and I just kind of
brushed it off, you know you're supposed to, you know,
just kind of rub some dirt on. Yeah, absolutely, and
(07:09):
so that's what I did, and come to find out
that doesn't really work. So so it kept happening. So
what happened Originally it kind of popped out of socket.
I was doing a snatch actually okay, and it turned
into popping out of socket while tackling people in practice,
and then it just escalated from there. Junior year, ended
(07:30):
up having to get surgery because it just wouldn't stay
in socket, and three months into I did PT. So
that was my first experience with recovery rehab that kind
of thing. Really enjoyed it. The people there were great.
I believe it was Moro who's still around today in Central.
But so I went through that, went back to football
(07:51):
senior year, injured it, I mean immediately, So so I
ended up having to deal with that for years. I
didn't want to get serve again. It wasn't fun the
first time, couldn't imagine it would be fun the second time.
And so I just kind of lived with it for
a while and that got me to college and eventually
got it fixed for real a year into CrossFit, believe
(08:14):
it or not. And people always ask, like, because I
was in CrossFit for a long time and that, they
would always ask, oh, you must have injured it doing CrossFit,
And I used to enjoy telling them, actually, no, just
and then tell them that whole story. But during that time,
I just got to experience physical therapy, right, which is
(08:34):
not what I do. I mean, there are a lot
of similarities, but it's not necessarily what I ended up at. So,
but I had an interest in that field, so I
went into kinesiology eventually. Actually, so this is a this
is going to be a longer story, but I actually
started as a vocal performance major at Southeastern.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Really, that's that's what my degree is in vocal performance.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, so I did that for a year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's a long journey from vocal performance to chiropractic care.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, tell me about it. Southeastern was not a four
year degree for me. It was five and a half.
But yeah, so I pretty much got a minor in
vocal performance and it Yeah, so you know God works
in mysterious ways, that's pretty cool. Yeah. So, uh so
I did. That was my first year and then I
just decided at one point I was like, look, I'm
(09:25):
this isn't what I want to get my full degree in.
And then I ended up doing kinesiology and that's when
I found, you know, we had a I was a
junior in college, didn't really know what I was going
to do. At that point, I was kind of like, man,
maybe physical therapy isn't the way I want to go.
Uh but I didn't know what to you know, go
to next. And and so this guy was was given
(09:51):
a talk on chiropractic and he was a recruiter for
one of the university's, uh Life university and Mary out
of Georgia actually, and so I was like, well, I
don't have anything else to do, you know, I'll just
go listen to this guy, I guess. And that was
my first intro to chiropractic care, just listening to him talk,
and I was like intrigued, I guess. I didn't really
(10:13):
know what to think about it, had never experienced it.
So I said, well, I'm going to go experience it,
and come to find out, my dad was seeing a
chiropractor at the time. It's one that y'all know, well.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Right, it's the one who got me walking again.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, uh, doctor Fred Rodrig He's still still in
the area, still doing what he does. And he was
the first man to ever adjust me. And like I said,
I was in I was in CrossFit already, and so
I left his office that day after he adjusted me.
We talked, you know, I just picked his brain. And
then I went directly to the gym in Ponchatoula because
(10:49):
I was living out there and I had to max
out on back squat that day. And my back squat
went up roughly fifty pounds. And I knew i'd been training, yeah,
you know, and I was like, okay, I could see
you maybe a fifteen twenty pounds jump, you know, but
fifty pounds. I was like, that's a lot, and you know,
(11:11):
and and that was just a and you don't look
at that and say, oh, that hadn't been all you know,
that adjustment that just happened, But there was something to it.
There was something something going on there. And so I
ended up working.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
For a chiropractor.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
After that, I was like, well, I really want to
know the ins and outs of this, and and that's
where I kind of decided, and I kind of fell
in love with with what they did and how they
interacted with their people, their patients, and the results that
they got. I mean, the results are obviously a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So well, I know, like I said earlier, through the years,
you've worked on you work on me and Stacey both,
and I'm not as much. She's, like we were joking about,
she's a crack addict.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Likes to, you know, have her back and all that
stuff cracked and I'm not into that, but I love it.
Whenever you needle me, you stick all his little Well,
it took.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You, being in a lot of pain to say, Okay,
I'm going to give in and I'm going to go
and see if a chiropractor could help you. And it
did so well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
My good friend, you know, Damien, he came out. I
was like, literally could not get out of bed, and
I was hurting, could not get out of bed, spent
like several days in bed. He came and got me,
put me in the car and hauled me to Fred's
and it was kind of funny because there was nobody there.
Whenever I got there, he takes me back, he works
on me, and I hollered and screamed for like thirty
(12:33):
to forty five minutes because I was hurting so bad.
And I walk out and there's like five people in
the waiting room and their eyes like got like, Oh
my god, what's he going to do to us? But
I had to have somebody help me in, and I
walked out, and over the course of several days, he
got me walking again, and so it kind of showed me.
And it's funny now because I talked to mom and
(12:54):
I'm like, you know, made a comment about our chipri
Oh yeah, chiropractor.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm like, now, now she's a believer.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You raised me like chiro factors, like which doctors.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And change what change?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yes, after that, she had gone to nursing school and
understands the value of that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, there was probably a time when it wasn't as
popular of profession and now and it's more about about it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it's still not super popular, I would say, but
it's more popular than it was absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, especially with like you said, in the sports field
and rehab for sports injuries and stuff like that. But
I mean, it's for all types of injuries.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Right, And I think that really, you know, the reason
I wanted to have you on here is because whenever
we start thinking about being healthy. We did an episode
on self care, and if you've not watched that episode,
you need to go back and check it out. But
we were really talking about spiritual care and mental and
all that kind of learning to rest. But I really
kind of wanted this one to be on health and
(13:54):
things of that, like taking care of ourselves in that way.
And I think so many times people in the neglect
people don't really take care of themselves. We know, we're
supposed to eat healthy. We you know, exercising is good
force and all that kind of stuff. But in the
line of chiropractic care, whenever I wake up and I
got a crick in my neck or I'm not feeling
(14:15):
well and to go see you and have you work
on me, needle me all these different things and it
gets me rolling again. So kind of talk about that
a little bit as far as people taking better care
of themselves. How do you help people in that way?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, So when Miss Stacy says it takes a lot
for to get you to the chiropractor. I can confirm
that that's every man's story. Ever, so a lot of
the people that I treat our women because they are
better at this than we are. Yeah, and it's the
same for me sometimes, you know, I'm even that way.
(14:52):
I fall down that hole too. Of you know, we
want to tough it out. We think we can get
through it. We don't necessarily and to ask for help
as much. We don't ask for directions for sure, So
while we ask for directions with our body, but but yeah,
it is a bigger part of our our life, and
then we give it credit for you know, what I
(15:14):
experience as a chiropractor in the office is a lot
of people coming in who, however, many people that may
be that are all hurting, usually in some way, and
that affects them in different ways. And so I don't
think we understand that when we're hurting, other parts of
our life are suffering because of it. And and so
(15:36):
whether that be our job or our relationship with our
wife because we're a little more ornery that day, Yeah,
it can be really tough to deal with with a
person like that. Uh, And so that was a learning
curve for me, because that's all I deal with is
people that are hurting and so, and that's something I
try to to get get into people's heads, is, hey,
(16:00):
this matter is more than you think we can. We
can all say we're tough, and we all have high
pain tolerances. I've heard that phra I should have kept
count how many times people say that. But that doesn't
necessarily mean you know that that's good.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just because you're tolerating the pain, well, doesn't mean the
other people around you are.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, that's yes, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mean and pain is is a signal, right, So
pain is like a sign that's something that maybe isn't
quite right. And it would be like you're driving down
the road and you see in that you know, that
engine light come on. Like I'm really good at just
driving with this engine light on. I mean, that's what
we're saying when we say we have a high pain tolerance. Yeah,
(16:47):
and that just means you're damaging your vehicle it needs oil. Yeah, yeah,
I get good at putting oil right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well. I know, like you know, just the other day,
I worked on our landscaping here at the house, and
this fifty three year old body up and down, you know,
in those flower beds all day long and hauling stuff. Man,
I'm sore, you know, I was. I was hurting that evening,
moving around like a sixty three year old or some
sixty three year olds be like, hey, wait watch it.
(17:17):
But my wife, you know, I was taking that out
on her because I was hurting. And after a while
she's like, you know what, I don't care if you
worked the fly better or not. You're being a jerk.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And I was kind of like you were grouseier than normal.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What did you?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh, I'm digging a hole here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I still love you, Like, thank you? How you like
that shameless plug there? Carlos, Yeah, got our producer over
in the corner. Classic. But let's so let's talk. Let's
dig into that a little bit more so far as
like you know, people hurting in their body and the
check engine like comes on? What so how are we
supposed to handle stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah? So, well everybody handles it differently. How how we
should handle it. Let's let's say, if you don't have
a chiropractor, right, I think it's good to have that
initial visit in the bag, whether that's because you're in pain,
I mean, it's the same thing with a primary care physician.
In my book, you know, you want to have someone
(18:16):
that you can get into touch with, that you can
communicate with, that you can get in a little more
quickly because that new patient exam and I mean that
all takes time. So to wait until it's you know,
past that point of where you can wait, I mean,
that's that's a hard place to be because then you
need an appointment right now, and and unfortunately not everybody
(18:39):
can come right now, and and so I'd hate for
people to have to wait too long. So it's good
to have a relationship with a practitioner beforehand. But when
that pain comes around, hopefully that chiropractor in this case
would have given you some tools to maybe work through
some of those easier things. And and this is why
(19:01):
I love CrossFit so much, is because we were introduced
to things like foam rollers pretty early, things like lacrosse
balls and bands and different stretches. I think that's a
great like, I guess, first barrier before you go see
somebody as hey, man, can I work this out on
my own? Like? And and that's the goal as a
as a chirop like we are meant to be educators.
(19:24):
That's what doctor really means is to be an educator.
And and so if I can educate my patients to say, hey,
when this comes about, let's try this first. You know,
you've got this easy access phone roller in the corner.
Let's let's loosen your back up and see how it feels. Well.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, I think that I think everybody kind of
has this idea of CrossFit of like there's just a
bunch of maniacs going out there and jumping on boxes
and flipping tires and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I mean, they're not completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, they're not a little bit of that, and that
that's why you have the reputation of getting hurting things
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And I was forty five whenever I started doing that,
Like I said, did it for seven years. But one
of the things that was really kind of cool for
me and opened my eyes to I remember Dustin teaching
us and training us in class, like you can do things.
Just modify it, like you see you know, like Ben
up there, you know, doing this this move, and it's
like I can't do that. I'm you know, forty five
years old and I'm fat. You know, Modify that and
(20:29):
so I would tell everybody. I said, look, if I
can do CrossFit, anybody can do CrossFit. But here's what
really is wild about it. There were ways to take
care of my body aside from just getting into shape.
That CrossFit taught me. The phone rollers going to get
into massage. Stacey used to go and get massages and
she was all like, I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Won't go tomorrow. You know, that's get me some cash.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But to work out those bumps and bruises that you
get within your body, right, and then you and Dustin
also would teach me stretching. It was like, really about
stretching your body and doing the things that you need
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it's knowing your limitations.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That is that is correct, But how many times that
we press that on a harder time?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, okay, women are better at that than guys. All right,
But I.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Want to go back to the stretching aspect because that's
one thing that Dustin used to You know, just stress
all the time, and I know you do as well.
You got to make sure that you stretch out. And
it's such a big thing because so many times we
carry stress in our bodies and we hold on to
things and if we can just learned to take time
to breathe and stretch and relax, man, it's so much
(21:36):
better for our bodies, so much better for health for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, taking that time to just, I guess really think
about what your body is doing is hard for people.
I mean, we're you know, we're very much engaged with
social media and screens and work and you know, what
are the kids doing? And we don't really sit back
and think like, well, how am I holding all this?
(22:03):
Like stress specifically for women, it's typically in the shoulders
and the neck. I mean, that's what I've seen over
and over and over again, is so much tension in
the traps. And sometimes it's because of what they do
for a living, but sometimes it's.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Just because they are stressed.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And we just live our life here and we never
think like and just put those shoulders down. And for
men it's more low back. I don't remember the exact percentages,
but I mean it's over seventy percent low back and
men and neck and women that are stress related and
so we tense up down here around the hips, the
(22:41):
gluts and the low back when we're stressed, and that's
where we hold it. And so just knowing that information
about yourself, like where do I hold my stress? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know, well, I tell you what's wild. I've always
been about traditional care. That's one reason why I'm like, no,
now I'll just go to my doctor, which you know,
I have a great doctor, and traditional care is wonderful,
but you can't always fix everything with necessarily a prescription
or something like that. And that's whenever it kind of
(23:10):
opened my eyes to whatever my body is hurting. My
body is tensed up, I have a muscle that's pulled.
I got a lot of stress. Going and seeing you
taught me like, okay, these are things that we can
do to treat that. And whenever I saw the results,
I was like, okay, this is pretty wild. I had
no idea that, you know, I wake up my neck
(23:31):
is killing me, and then I can go and see you,
and through heat, through massage, through needling, whatever it might be,
we alleviate that. But it wasn't necessarily caused by that
way I slept. But it's caused by I've been walking
through a season of stress in my life and I'm
carrying that my neck, and so I think that, honestly,
if we would learn to take care of ourselves and
(23:52):
do the things that we know we should do. Man,
it would solve so many problems.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, I definitely think that you know in Thomas past,
when I've had issues, and yes, I verify that women
carry that stress and neck and shoulders and everything. But
like when I had some lower back issues and some
neck pain, I've learned, like you said, you try to
help your patients, give them tools of how they can
manage that in the stretching and different aspects like that,
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like if I if I even feel a tinge of pain,
I'm doing certain stretches that either you showed me or
like going through physical therapy, which there there's such in
that aspect. There's similarities right with what you do and
in some physical therapy things that they show you, and
so it's it's very much needed. And then to be
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proactive in that, you know, to manage your stress.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now I don't have you Have you ever been needled?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I thought I didn't know you had done that. I
thought because you don't like needles.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, I don't as long as I don't see it,
and I don't see it because it's my back or
my deck.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I had I had been taking picture one time he
was needling my back and my neck and I'm like,
I look like a dag on porcupine and I had
you take a picture of it. Said that to Stacy
because it was like, because I think that was before
you started getting needling. And then he takes it, ho
is it tend unit and hook it all up? Yeah,
and next thing, you know, twitching and popping and jerking
and all that because it's you know, working all those
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things out. But that's my favorite thing in the world.
I love having that done.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But there's just so many different things, you know, that
you can do to help to manage the stress so
that it won't get as bad. It's like you have
to have an emergency, you know, visit that that you're
taking better care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And we have done that. You know, we try to
get people because we know how it is, we know how,
we know how it should be, and then we know
how it is right and and when you're in pain
and you're in a lot of pain, I mean, we
will try to squeeze people in and it's and it's
interesting because sometimes the answer to that stress in the office,
you know, it's not for me to maybe needle their traps.
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You know. I've had people come in and they start
talking about something that hurts them and then in the
middle of that conversation they just say, I just missed
my husband and they had just lost someone, you know,
and and that twenty minute appointment that's supposed to be
full of treatment turns into a twenty minute just conversation. Yeah,
and those were probably more that was more beneficial for
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that person than anything I could have done with my hands.
And that's not something that I was necessarily prepared for
going into practice, I would say, but it's something that
has happened multiple times.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, because I mean, we can kind of hold our
emotions and manifest in our bodies different ways, and so
that's I can see how that would be. Yeah, you know,
sometimes just being adjusted or whatever could help. Yes, it's
relieving stress, but it may be there may be underlying things.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So you can take this as what you went into
for an occupations turn it's more of a calling and
a ministry.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It has become that, Okay, it has.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
No, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, all right, So I have a question.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
We'll put you on the spot here. We're talking about
alleviating other people's stress and the things within their body.
How do you do because I mean, it's not like
you can work on yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Do you have your own personal chiropractice?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I can't say that I haven't tried to work on myself.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You have you trained Emily like.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Hey, she would have so much to say right now? Yeah,
I have. I have coached my wife up a few
times on hey, press right there. I need her to
weigh about three hundred pounds and she doesn't. But no,
I do have some people that that I definitely try
to get to. Uh, I don't get to them as
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much as I would like to. You know, I have
a partner in Zachary doctor pay It's Zachary's Fine and
Sports Rehab. We try to link up every now and then.
And then there's a few massage therapists in town that
are great. You know. When I visited recently, Brad Dixon
right thereby Stabs did a great job. So I do
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some massage, I do some Cairo care. I try to
exercise as much as as I can without you know,
completely getting out of whack with timing everything with kids
and and life and work. But at times, man, it
it's hard, you know, everybody, every chiropractor has the same schedule.
So so you got to take some time off and
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that means sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So what you're telling me is that because I know
that you are healthy, I know that you you somewhat
try to watch your diet somewhat.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Okay, all right, this is it's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I know you value because this is what you do.
This is your your occupation to help people feel better
in their body. So any anything you want to add
to that, as far as like the value of exercise
and diet and stuff along that nature.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, so I would say if And I asked a
chiropractor one of my mentors before I went to school,
and at the time I thought I had the answer
to this question before I asked it. I was I
was wrong. You hear that, honey. So I asked him,
I said, what do you think is more important working
out consistently or your diet? And I was like, man,
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this guy's about to agree with me. It's it's working out,
absolutely is working out. And he said, dude, it's diet
by far. They say it's eighty percent diet, And yeah,
I mean, how do we quantify that? I don't know,
but but yes, it's what you put into your body
is what you are, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But honey buns are delicious.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm just but that's not a proper way to fuel
your body.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But they're still good.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I mean, it's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It is plenty of fuel as long as we're burning it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We were at the gym one day and Dustin was
asking me about because she knows that we were joking
about baby sandwiches, the you know, the little sandwiches eat
at like weddings and stuff. And it's like, I normally
only eat one sandwich that is, you know, for lunch,
but when you get baby sandwiches, he like fifty, Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that makes your one big sandwich.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And she told me one day, she said, well, maybe
what you need to do is in your because I
like oreos. She's said in your diet, make room for
a few oreos And I said, or a sleeve and
she said, what do you mean a sleeve? I said,
with you get the big box from Sayings and there's
thirteen oreos.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And yeah, I can verify that.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, she was like, you know how many? You know
that absolutely I count out.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
So she was.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Like, well, maybe make room for that. But not thirteen, right, Yeah,
gotta limit yourself.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, No, I think the serving size for oreos I
think it's too which is bizarre to the Lord's not
that it's a yeah yeah, so yeah, nutrition is is
most of what most of what we need to worry about.
I see in the office all the time, just through
the amount of inflammation in somebody's body. You know, if
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you're eating everything that doesn't need to be refrigerated, chances
are it's probably not the thing that you should be eating.
That's that's the rule of thumb. Like if I mean,
if it needs to be refrigerated, if it expires, chances
are it's real food and you got a better shot
out of getting some nutrients out of that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So how many days a week should a because because
I get it, I mean I know that diet is
the majority of it. But how many days a week
should somebody be actively like just staying active, exercising, walking, whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah. So, And in this obviously none of this information
isn't meant for anybody specific. Everybody's situation is different. I
would say it depends on the intensity of that exercise. Sometimes,
so the exercise that we met doing I would say
three or four days a week is probably plenty. Some
people like to go into that five or six range.
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But what I would say is we need to be
moving every day, so that might just be walking outside,
you know. I say outside specifically, because then you get
the sun, you get some vitamin D, and you know
that's a big deal, especially when you get into the
winter months. But if you're not, if you're not in
a position where you can do you know, one hundred
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and fifty wall balls for time, maybe yeah, well, Karen.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So for those of you who don't cross fit, you
know what he's talking about. You know what we're referring
to when we talk about Karen.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It's awful. So if you can't do something highly intense
like that, you know, maybe more days a week of
moderately intense exercise would be better for you. So maybe
five or six days of moderate exercise, you know, then
it's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
If you don't do burpies. I know that's your favorite, Jaye.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I was hoping we could do some burpees.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Burpee's are the double.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
After this recording, y'all can go do burkeyes. Y'all have
fun with that, you know, But I know a lot
of times, you know, It's talked about just to get
outside and walk and just walking, or like if you
have an Apple watch counting your steps or trying to
get as many steps in as you can't that will
you know, that will help you if you can't do
anything else and maybe you have an injury or something
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like that and you can't do much. Just like you said,
keep moving.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I'll tell you what's funny. They used to say that.
You know, Dustin would tell us burpies are the number
one exercise to keep people out a nursing home. And
the reason why is why the most fall because you
fall and you can't you get up, but a burpie
trains you. You fall and you pick yourself back up absolutely,
And I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I hate I do the modified version of.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah no, And that's that's what I'm getting at, is
like the walking. I stress that to a lot of
my patients because they are hurting, you know, and in
a perfect world, we are getting our heart rate up
and we are sweating, you know, multiple days a week.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So what you're saying is diet is the bulk of it,
but exercise goes hand in hand with that, and find
something you can do keep moving.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, something you enjoy walk.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I know for us we like to take walks together
and while we're on that walk, we to sleeve it
Oreos Joe. But the things whenever your body is telling
you hate, get some help, get some care. To go
see some traditional doctor wonderful, but to go see someone
who maybe could give you chiropractic care. Whether it's be
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needling adjustment, whether it's be you know, massage, therapy, whatever,
but to find somebody who can help you in that regard. Now,
I'm want to kind of shift this conversation a little
bit because we're talking more about you know, your body,
taking care of your body. But you kind of intrigued
me whenever you said that you had a degree in
vocal performance, because I did not know that. And you
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are one of the worship leaders at our Watson campus.
We you know, for the listeners who don't know this, uh,
we we passed your church. We have two campuses and
we launched the Watson campus almost four years ago. But
you've you've kind of taken all the reins there being
the worship leader at this point and leading in that regard.
(34:43):
You probably didn't even realize when you were going for
vocal performance and maybe you wind up using that gift
for the Lord one day, but kind of talk about
that little bit what is that like to I know
I've been married to a worship leader for years, but
for you, what does that what does that look like?
What is that you know mean to you to to
lead in that regard?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It's uh, I mean the I want to answer that
immediately with fulfilling. But yeah, so I never I never
got like a full degree in vocal performance, and and
I really I hadn't used any of those skills that
I learned there for a long time. You know, I
did a lot of karaoke. That's that's about it, you know,
(35:26):
but being able to you know, coming back to to
my hometown, uh where I was. I was very much
into CrossFit and and chiropractic care at that time and
making connections with with you, with with Tyler and and
I think I think how this all came about with
with the worship he I think it was Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think it was Murphy And I didn't even know
you could sing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
And so I told Dustin or Bird or whoever was
there that morning. You know, hey, I you know I
can sing the national anthem, if y'all want, and I
had done that. That was the That was the one
live like a cappella thing that I really enjoyed doing
once a year. That was my That was my outlet
at that time. And so I did that. And I
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don't know if Tyler was there or he saw the
video or what, but we had a conversation about it later.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That was your audition and you didn't even know it, right.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, Yeah, I didn't know what I was doing at
the time, but but yeah, that's how I got into it.
And what has come from that, and I guess that
was twenty nineteen. It was before COVID. What started with
that has turned into something that I could not have imagined,
you know. I know we had a conversation recently. We
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had did done something at Central and we just caught
each other in the hallway, me and you, and we
just reminisced for about thirty seconds about like, man, you
remember you know where this started?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Where you're at now?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, And I was like, yeah, I couldn't couldn't imagine it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Like I said, I didn't even know you could sing.
And for listeners who don't you know know what you
talk about Murph.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, you need to tell
everybody what that is.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
What you want to tell everybody what it is.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
It's a thing.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
It's coming up. If anybody is interested, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, Well, and they've done that, You've done a few, so.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
It is a it is a hero workout. They call
it a hero wide Why just stands for workout of
the day, and it's called Murph. I'm not going to
go into who. I think it's Robert Murphy, I believe,
but Mike Mikero Murphy Murphy.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sorry, if you've ever seen Loan Survivor, he's he's one
of the officers in that, and that's such.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
An amazing story and movie. But the workout is not
so amazing. It is awful.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
What was it not his personal workout or similar to
that's something that you did every day for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah. And what it is is it's a mile run.
Well and if you're doing it as prescribed, it's with
a twenty pound best. It starts with a run. It's
one hundred pull ups, two hundred push ups, three hundred
air squads, and then another mile run. Break it up
however you want, and and exhausting.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It is average and the older I get, the more
I saw this that it took me about a week
to recover from that. It was it was a long
recovery process. And so my goal was to do the
workout and break us sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And the last year that I did it, I did
it like fifty eight minutes and thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Hadn't done it several years.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah. Yeah, So that that uh. And that's so that's
the workout that obviously you would sing the national anthem for.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
And so it's it's called the miurf and and it
is brutal, but it's a great and you don't have
to do it. They have the half murfh, the quarter murph,
all these different things. But it's great to be able
to get in that community with other people and you
cheering each other on, and it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's just a way of honoring the best.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
And it's amazing. It's amazing what you can accomplish when
it's for something else like that, like you've got something
else in mind that day.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, well I'm not doing it this year. I might
go cheer some other people on, but you know we
talk about where you started at. To hear you sing
it was just like, man, that's awesome. And to see
where God has brought you and your precious little wife,
your family, what God's doing and y'all and three y'all,
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it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, it's uh, it's it's really has been a blessing
to not just me, but but to our family. I mean,
like anything else, you know, there are commitments involved, and
you make sacrifices for those commitments. But it's something that
I would do over and over and over again because
of what it's been for me. I mean I always
joke and say the worship team was my first life group,
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which might not be the way to go about it
necessarily for everybody, but for me, that's just how it happened.
And being around the people, you know, growing with those
people and now leading some of those.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Just being part of the team and which turns in
friends turn into family. Yeah, closer relationships. That's great.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Well, I'll tell you this, this has kind of been
a cool episode because I don't know if we've ever
done one talking about health, and I know we've talked
about self care. This one's different talking about exercise and
chiropractic care and massage therapy and all those different It's
a very different episode. But I'm glad we did it.
I just, you know, they were like, what are you
gonna talk to a Ben about it? I'm like, I
don't know. I'm just kind of fascinated about what he does.
You know, his job.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, it's important for us to you know, I mean
to be mindful to take care of our bodies, you know,
and that when something's wrong with our body has given
us a signal that we need to not be like
all the men in the world and not go to
the doctor or ask for help or you know.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So guys, get some care for your body and put
down that honey button.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You know that sleeve of oreos. Well, quick story I
did when he was doing CrossFit and he would sneak
the oreos and I would find him hiding out in
the pantry eating no lie, I'm like, what are you doing.
You're not supposed to be eating that. They're so good
and I'm so ashamed, so so in marriage, that's another
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aspect of keeping each other.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Can I literally would hide in the pantry and eat
oreos in the dark because they're so good.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But your sin would surely find you out.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh well, Ben, thank you for joining us, great commerce.
Anything you want to add we wrap up.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think I think we covered I don't know more
than more than I thought we would. IM good.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I think the takeaway today is get to moving. Yes,
watch that diet, and if you need, you know, some
care for your body, reach out and get help. Guys especially,
I know that we have a bad habit of trying
to fix things on our own or this will fix
it on its own, and sometimes it's okay to step
out and get help. So anything you want to add,
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Stacy before we wrap.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Up, I think this is a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
That's funny, great, it's good to be able to sit
with a good friend and talk about these things. And
bringing back the CrossFit days. I mean you'd be like,
all right, he's coming back.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
We don't have to do CrossFit per se, but you
just need to exercise.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Sure, although we talked about that the other day and
we were like, yeah, we probably need to get back
into doing something. Working out it's one thing, but crossfits
a whole nother thing.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That's a whole other level.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It's awesome. So I just want to thank everybody for
being a part of this episode today. And like I said,
if you've enjoyed this, make sure that you like you
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had a wonderful time today talking about taking care of
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our body, being healthy in a lot of different ways,
and we've enjoyed having you as a part of this episode. Ben,
thank you so much for being here today. And as always,
I'm Jay and Stacy and this is love like crazy
Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Love Like Crazy Podcast.
We're your hosts Jy and Stacy Coleman, and we're here
today with a good friend of ours who is a
member of our church but also a local business owner,
and so we're going to just jump in and have
a great conversation with him today.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
All right, Well, Stacy, I got to tell you before
we dive off into this, I do want to talk
to all the ones who are watching this and just
tell you how much we appreciate you. You guys have
helped us to build this podcast and it's growing week
after week and I just want to say thank you,
And so do me a favor, help us continue to
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That helps upcoming episodes, that'll let you know what we
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I notice you talked about that because you said a
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good friend, it seems like we say that about all
of our because it's good friends that we have on here.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We'd like to have good conversations with good friends.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, and Ben, I'm gonna let you introduce yourself to everybody,
but you and I actually we're kind of joking about this.
We met at the gym. Now you are a member
of our church, you're one of the worship leaders, and
we actually met you or I met you at the gym,
and I'm going to I'm gonna let you go ahead
and kind of introduce yourself to everybody, but I'm gonna
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come back in a few minutes because I have a
great story about the gym that's so encouraging for me.
So Ben, tell us about yourself, tell us about your
family and what's going on in the life of Ben Black.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Absolutely well, thank you all for having me. Yeah, I'm
I'm I'm very tempted to keep messing with this mic
over and over again because I've never done this before.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
But it's normal. It's normal.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to not fidget.
But my name is Ben Black. I am a chiropractor.
But I was born and raised in Central and you know,
I had the privilege of coming back and starting a
business here, which has been really really awesome, really encouraging.
But I am married to uh, to Emily Black. We've
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been married for it'll be ten years in September. September nineteenth.
I didn't forget, so make sure. Yeah, yeah, point for me.
We got two girls. Charlotte who's six, she's in kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I've never seen kids that look more like their daddy.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Well, yeah that's my Dad's got a quote about that
and I'm not gonna say it. And then uh, yeah,
so she's six, and then Cameron is two, so she
she's not in school yet. She gets to hang out
with my mom. Honey. Is her name? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What's she? What? They call you?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Dad, Papa, Papa, Papa.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Just like you, okay, Brnana and Papa.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Now, Emily's a school teacher in the community as well.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, she is. She's she's been a middle school teacher,
well longer than I've been a chiropractor. You know. She
was actually teaching when I was in school beforehand, so
at least she was making money at that time. But yeah,
she's been at Central Middle since we moved back in
twenty nineteen. Central She teaches sixth grade science.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Loves what she does. She does it was it depends
on the day.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean like any other job probably,
but but yeah, she really does. I think she she
really has a calling for for education in that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
That is a gifting to be able to mark with
shits like that.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I tell her every day I could never do what
she does, and I mean it.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, you know, we start talking about the direction of
this particular episode, and I'm fastnated by what you do.
There's a lot of things about your life that just really,
you know, speak to me. But you and I met
at the gym. You were actually one of the coaches
at the gym that I was going to. Went that
gym for seven years and I have actually taken a
little break in this last year, but I know that
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you were crossfitter, CrossFit competitions, all that type of stuff.
And the story that I'm going to tell is this.
We were actually doing weight training. We were in the
cycle of doing doing the weight training, and we got
to the point to where one day we were doing
bench press. You remember that day, Oh, I.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Know where this is going.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, you know what this is.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I remember this.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
We were doing bench press, and we were in and
you can probably if you're watching on YouTube, you can
tell by the look of his arms versus my arms, Like, yeah,
because because he's a big time weightlifter, I'm not so much.
But when it came to bench press, at that time,
I was probably in the two twenty ish neighborhood, probably
max and out of it. I think that year I
might stout at like two fifty five something like that.
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And so we were working out and you and I
were equal now on all the other stuff, squats, shoulder press,
all that stuff, not so much, but when it came
to bench press, I remember that day got on it
and You're like, yeah, I'll work out with you because
you know that's about where I'm at. And I'm like, really,
I am bench pressing equal to.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
The great, okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And then you explain to me that you know, you
had a shoulder injury earlier in life and because of
that you can't bench press so much. And I'm like,
I don't care, I'll take it. I will take it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, No, that's that's a big reason I do. What
I do now is actually connected to probably that shoulder injuries.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay, Well, an injury for you was a life builder
for me because it maybe feel like the strong man
that day. Yeah, but now you are your chiropractor. And
I will tell you this. My wife has been all
about chiropractors the whole time that we've been together. And
I've shared this with you my mom.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I was raised like.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Chiropractors, they stay away from you know. So for years
I didn't go to a chiropractor. But I had an
injury in the gym, and a chiropractor is what got me,
got me up on my feet and got me moving again.
And you've actually treated me quite a few times throughout
the years. And so tell me what what Okay, it's
that injury is what led you in that direction, kind
(06:22):
of lead us into this. Tell us what why do
you do what you do?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah? So I saw I was a big sports guy
growing up. You know, I always played multiple sports as
a kid. My parents definitely ran me from from practice
to practice like mad people, and I appreciate them for that.
But during that time, you know you're gonna get injured.
You're gonna get injured sometimes. And so I was in
(06:47):
high school. I was at Parkview, I believe at the time. Uh,
and I did something in the weightlifting room that probably
shouldn't have been doing. Didn't really know what I was
doing all the way, and hat felt something in the shoulder.
Didn't know what really happened, and I just kind of
brushed it off, you know you're supposed to, you know,
just kind of rub some dirt on. Yeah, absolutely, and
(07:09):
so that's what I did, and come to find out
that doesn't really work. So so it kept happening. So
what happened Originally it kind of popped out of socket.
I was doing a snatch actually okay, and it turned
into popping out of socket while tackling people in practice,
and then it just escalated from there. Junior year, ended
(07:30):
up having to get surgery because it just wouldn't stay
in socket, and three months into I did PT. So
that was my first experience with recovery rehab that kind
of thing. Really enjoyed it. The people there were great.
I believe it was Moro who's still around today in Central.
But so I went through that, went back to football
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senior year, injured it, I mean immediately, So so I
ended up having to deal with that for years. I
didn't want to get serve again. It wasn't fun the
first time, couldn't imagine it would be fun the second time.
And so I just kind of lived with it for
a while and that got me to college and eventually
got it fixed for real a year into CrossFit, believe
(08:14):
it or not. And people always ask, like, because I
was in CrossFit for a long time and that, they
would always ask, oh, you must have injured it doing CrossFit,
And I used to enjoy telling them, actually, no, just
and then tell them that whole story. But during that time,
I just got to experience physical therapy, right, which is
(08:34):
not what I do. I mean, there are a lot
of similarities, but it's not necessarily what I ended up at. So,
but I had an interest in that field, so I
went into kinesiology eventually. Actually, so this is a this
is going to be a longer story, but I actually
started as a vocal performance major at Southeastern.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Really, that's that's what my degree is in vocal performance.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Yeah, so I did that for a year.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's a long journey from vocal performance to chiropractic care.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, tell me about it. Southeastern was not a four
year degree for me. It was five and a half.
But yeah, so I pretty much got a minor in
vocal performance and it Yeah, so you know God works
in mysterious ways, that's pretty cool. Yeah. So, uh so
I did. That was my first year and then I
just decided at one point I was like, look, I'm
(09:25):
this isn't what I want to get my full degree in.
And then I ended up doing kinesiology and that's when
I found, you know, we had a I was a
junior in college, didn't really know what I was going
to do. At that point, I was kind of like, man,
maybe physical therapy isn't the way I want to go.
Uh but I didn't know what to you know, go
to next. And and so this guy was was given
(09:51):
a talk on chiropractic and he was a recruiter for
one of the university's, uh Life university and Mary out
of Georgia actually, and so I was like, well, I
don't have anything else to do, you know, I'll just
go listen to this guy, I guess. And that was
my first intro to chiropractic care, just listening to him talk,
and I was like intrigued, I guess. I didn't really
(10:13):
know what to think about it, had never experienced it.
So I said, well, I'm going to go experience it,
and come to find out, my dad was seeing a
chiropractor at the time. It's one that y'all know, well.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Right, it's the one who got me walking again.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, uh, doctor Fred Rodrig He's still still in
the area, still doing what he does. And he was
the first man to ever adjust me. And like I said,
I was in I was in CrossFit already, and so
I left his office that day after he adjusted me.
We talked, you know, I just picked his brain. And
then I went directly to the gym in Ponchatoula because
(10:49):
I was living out there and I had to max
out on back squat that day. And my back squat
went up roughly fifty pounds. And I knew i'd been training, yeah,
you know, and I was like, okay, I could see
you maybe a fifteen twenty pounds jump, you know, but
fifty pounds. I was like, that's a lot, and you know,
(11:11):
and and that was just a and you don't look
at that and say, oh, that hadn't been all you know,
that adjustment that just happened, But there was something to it.
There was something something going on there. And so I
ended up working.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
For a chiropractor.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
After that, I was like, well, I really want to
know the ins and outs of this, and and that's
where I kind of decided, and I kind of fell
in love with with what they did and how they
interacted with their people, their patients, and the results that
they got. I mean, the results are obviously a part
of it.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So well, I know, like I said earlier, through the years,
you've worked on you work on me and Stacey both,
and I'm not as much. She's, like we were joking about,
she's a crack addict.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, she.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Likes to, you know, have her back and all that
stuff cracked and I'm not into that, but I love it.
Whenever you needle me, you stick all his little Well,
it took.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You, being in a lot of pain to say, Okay,
I'm going to give in and I'm going to go
and see if a chiropractor could help you. And it
did so well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
My good friend, you know, Damien, he came out. I
was like, literally could not get out of bed, and
I was hurting, could not get out of bed, spent
like several days in bed. He came and got me,
put me in the car and hauled me to Fred's
and it was kind of funny because there was nobody there.
Whenever I got there, he takes me back, he works
on me, and I hollered and screamed for like thirty
(12:33):
to forty five minutes because I was hurting so bad.
And I walk out and there's like five people in
the waiting room and their eyes like got like, Oh
my god, what's he going to do to us? But
I had to have somebody help me in, and I
walked out, and over the course of several days, he
got me walking again, and so it kind of showed me.
And it's funny now because I talked to mom and
(12:54):
I'm like, you know, made a comment about our chipri
Oh yeah, chiropractor.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I'm like, now, now she's a believer.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You raised me like chiro factors, like which doctors.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And change what change?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yes, after that, she had gone to nursing school and
understands the value of that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Well, there was probably a time when it wasn't as
popular of profession and now and it's more about about it.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it's still not super popular, I would say, but
it's more popular than it was absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, especially with like you said, in the sports field
and rehab for sports injuries and stuff like that. But
I mean, it's for all types of injuries.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Right, And I think that really, you know, the reason
I wanted to have you on here is because whenever
we start thinking about being healthy. We did an episode
on self care, and if you've not watched that episode,
you need to go back and check it out. But
we were really talking about spiritual care and mental and
all that kind of learning to rest. But I really
kind of wanted this one to be on health and
(13:54):
things of that, like taking care of ourselves in that way.
And I think so many times people in the neglect
people don't really take care of themselves. We know, we're
supposed to eat healthy. We you know, exercising is good
force and all that kind of stuff. But in the
line of chiropractic care, whenever I wake up and I
got a crick in my neck or I'm not feeling
(14:15):
well and to go see you and have you work
on me, needle me all these different things and it
gets me rolling again. So kind of talk about that
a little bit as far as people taking better care
of themselves. How do you help people in that way?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, So when Miss Stacy says it takes a lot
for to get you to the chiropractor. I can confirm
that that's every man's story. Ever, so a lot of
the people that I treat our women because they are
better at this than we are. Yeah, and it's the
same for me sometimes, you know, I'm even that way.
(14:52):
I fall down that hole too. Of you know, we
want to tough it out. We think we can get
through it. We don't necessarily and to ask for help
as much. We don't ask for directions for sure, So
while we ask for directions with our body, but but yeah,
it is a bigger part of our our life, and
then we give it credit for you know, what I
(15:14):
experience as a chiropractor in the office is a lot
of people coming in who, however, many people that may
be that are all hurting, usually in some way, and
that affects them in different ways. And so I don't
think we understand that when we're hurting, other parts of
our life are suffering because of it. And and so
(15:36):
whether that be our job or our relationship with our
wife because we're a little more ornery that day, Yeah,
it can be really tough to deal with with a
person like that. Uh, And so that was a learning
curve for me, because that's all I deal with is
people that are hurting and so, and that's something I
try to to get get into people's heads, is, hey,
(16:00):
this matter is more than you think we can. We
can all say we're tough, and we all have high
pain tolerances. I've heard that phra I should have kept
count how many times people say that. But that doesn't
necessarily mean you know that that's good.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Just because you're tolerating the pain, well, doesn't mean the
other people around you are.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, that's yes, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mean and pain is is a signal, right, So
pain is like a sign that's something that maybe isn't
quite right. And it would be like you're driving down
the road and you see in that you know, that
engine light come on. Like I'm really good at just
driving with this engine light on. I mean, that's what
we're saying when we say we have a high pain tolerance. Yeah,
(16:47):
and that just means you're damaging your vehicle it needs oil. Yeah, yeah,
I get good at putting oil right.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well. I know, like you know, just the other day,
I worked on our landscaping here at the house, and
this fifty three year old body up and down, you know,
in those flower beds all day long and hauling stuff. Man,
I'm sore, you know, I was. I was hurting that evening,
moving around like a sixty three year old or some
sixty three year olds be like, hey, wait watch it.
(17:17):
But my wife, you know, I was taking that out
on her because I was hurting. And after a while
she's like, you know what, I don't care if you
worked the fly better or not. You're being a jerk.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And I was kind of like you were grouseier than normal.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
What did you?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh, I'm digging a hole here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I still love you, Like, thank you? How you like
that shameless plug there? Carlos, Yeah, got our producer over
in the corner. Classic. But let's so let's talk. Let's
dig into that a little bit more so far as
like you know, people hurting in their body and the
check engine like comes on? What so how are we
supposed to handle stuff like that?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah? So, well everybody handles it differently. How how we
should handle it. Let's let's say, if you don't have
a chiropractor, right, I think it's good to have that
initial visit in the bag, whether that's because you're in pain,
I mean, it's the same thing with a primary care physician.
In my book, you know, you want to have someone
(18:16):
that you can get into touch with, that you can
communicate with, that you can get in a little more
quickly because that new patient exam and I mean that
all takes time. So to wait until it's you know,
past that point of where you can wait, I mean,
that's that's a hard place to be because then you
need an appointment right now, and and unfortunately not everybody
(18:39):
can come right now, and and so I'd hate for
people to have to wait too long. So it's good
to have a relationship with a practitioner beforehand. But when
that pain comes around, hopefully that chiropractor in this case
would have given you some tools to maybe work through
some of those easier things. And and this is why
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I love CrossFit so much, is because we were introduced
to things like foam rollers pretty early, things like lacrosse
balls and bands and different stretches. I think that's a
great like, I guess, first barrier before you go see
somebody as hey, man, can I work this out on
my own? Like? And and that's the goal as a
as a chirop like we are meant to be educators.
(19:24):
That's what doctor really means is to be an educator.
And and so if I can educate my patients to say, hey,
when this comes about, let's try this first. You know,
you've got this easy access phone roller in the corner.
Let's let's loosen your back up and see how it feels. Well.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, I think that I think everybody kind of
has this idea of CrossFit of like there's just a
bunch of maniacs going out there and jumping on boxes
and flipping tires and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I mean, they're not completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
No, they're not a little bit of that, and that
that's why you have the reputation of getting hurting things
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And I was forty five whenever I started doing that,
Like I said, did it for seven years. But one
of the things that was really kind of cool for
me and opened my eyes to I remember Dustin teaching
us and training us in class, like you can do things.
Just modify it, like you see you know, like Ben
up there, you know, doing this this move, and it's
like I can't do that. I'm you know, forty five
years old and I'm fat. You know, Modify that and
(20:29):
so I would tell everybody. I said, look, if I
can do CrossFit, anybody can do CrossFit. But here's what
really is wild about it. There were ways to take
care of my body aside from just getting into shape.
That CrossFit taught me. The phone rollers going to get
into massage. Stacey used to go and get massages and
she was all like, I'm like, I.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Won't go tomorrow. You know, that's get me some cash.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
But to work out those bumps and bruises that you
get within your body, right, and then you and Dustin
also would teach me stretching. It was like, really about
stretching your body and doing the things that you need
to do.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And it's knowing your limitations.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That is that is correct, But how many times that
we press that on a harder time?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, okay, women are better at that than guys. All right,
But I.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Want to go back to the stretching aspect because that's
one thing that Dustin used to You know, just stress
all the time, and I know you do as well.
You got to make sure that you stretch out. And
it's such a big thing because so many times we
carry stress in our bodies and we hold on to
things and if we can just learned to take time
to breathe and stretch and relax, man, it's so much
(21:36):
better for our bodies, so much better for health for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah, taking that time to just, I guess really think
about what your body is doing is hard for people.
I mean, we're you know, we're very much engaged with
social media and screens and work and you know, what
are the kids doing? And we don't really sit back
and think like, well, how am I holding all this?
(22:03):
Like stress specifically for women, it's typically in the shoulders
and the neck. I mean, that's what I've seen over
and over and over again, is so much tension in
the traps. And sometimes it's because of what they do
for a living, but sometimes it's.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Just because they are stressed.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
And we just live our life here and we never
think like and just put those shoulders down. And for
men it's more low back. I don't remember the exact percentages,
but I mean it's over seventy percent low back and
men and neck and women that are stress related and
so we tense up down here around the hips, the
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gluts and the low back when we're stressed, and that's
where we hold it. And so just knowing that information
about yourself, like where do I hold my stress? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know, well, I tell you what's wild. I've always
been about traditional care. That's one reason why I'm like, no,
now I'll just go to my doctor, which you know,
I have a great doctor, and traditional care is wonderful,
but you can't always fix everything with necessarily a prescription
or something like that. And that's whenever it kind of
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opened my eyes to whatever my body is hurting. My
body is tensed up, I have a muscle that's pulled.
I got a lot of stress. Going and seeing you
taught me like, okay, these are things that we can
do to treat that. And whenever I saw the results,
I was like, okay, this is pretty wild. I had
no idea that, you know, I wake up my neck
(23:31):
is killing me, and then I can go and see you,
and through heat, through massage, through needling, whatever it might be,
we alleviate that. But it wasn't necessarily caused by that
way I slept. But it's caused by I've been walking
through a season of stress in my life and I'm
carrying that my neck, and so I think that, honestly,
if we would learn to take care of ourselves and
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do the things that we know we should do. Man,
it would solve so many problems.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, I definitely think that you know in Thomas past,
when I've had issues, and yes, I verify that women
carry that stress and neck and shoulders and everything. But
like when I had some lower back issues and some
neck pain, I've learned, like you said, you try to
help your patients, give them tools of how they can
manage that in the stretching and different aspects like that,
(24:20):
like if I if I even feel a tinge of pain,
I'm doing certain stretches that either you showed me or
like going through physical therapy, which there there's such in
that aspect. There's similarities right with what you do and
in some physical therapy things that they show you, and
so it's it's very much needed. And then to be
(24:40):
proactive in that, you know, to manage your stress.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now I don't have you Have you ever been needled?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I thought I didn't know you had done that. I
thought because you don't like needles.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
No, I don't as long as I don't see it,
and I don't see it because it's my back or
my deck.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I had I had been taking picture one time he
was needling my back and my neck and I'm like,
I look like a dag on porcupine and I had
you take a picture of it. Said that to Stacy
because it was like, because I think that was before
you started getting needling. And then he takes it, ho
is it tend unit and hook it all up? Yeah,
and next thing, you know, twitching and popping and jerking
and all that because it's you know, working all those
(25:18):
things out. But that's my favorite thing in the world.
I love having that done.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But there's just so many different things, you know, that
you can do to help to manage the stress so
that it won't get as bad. It's like you have
to have an emergency, you know, visit that that you're
taking better care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And we have done that. You know, we try to
get people because we know how it is, we know how,
we know how it should be, and then we know
how it is right and and when you're in pain
and you're in a lot of pain, I mean, we
will try to squeeze people in and it's and it's
interesting because sometimes the answer to that stress in the office,
you know, it's not for me to maybe needle their traps.
(25:55):
You know. I've had people come in and they start
talking about something that hurts them and then in the
middle of that conversation they just say, I just missed
my husband and they had just lost someone, you know,
and and that twenty minute appointment that's supposed to be
full of treatment turns into a twenty minute just conversation. Yeah,
and those were probably more that was more beneficial for
(26:17):
that person than anything I could have done with my hands.
And that's not something that I was necessarily prepared for
going into practice, I would say, but it's something that
has happened multiple times.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Well, because I mean, we can kind of hold our
emotions and manifest in our bodies different ways, and so
that's I can see how that would be. Yeah, you know,
sometimes just being adjusted or whatever could help. Yes, it's
relieving stress, but it may be there may be underlying things.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So you can take this as what you went into
for an occupations turn it's more of a calling and
a ministry.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
It has become that, Okay, it has.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
No, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, yeah, all right, So I have a question.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
We'll put you on the spot here. We're talking about
alleviating other people's stress and the things within their body.
How do you do because I mean, it's not like
you can work on yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Do you have your own personal chiropractice?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I can't say that I haven't tried to work on myself.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You have you trained Emily like.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Hey, she would have so much to say right now? Yeah,
I have. I have coached my wife up a few
times on hey, press right there. I need her to
weigh about three hundred pounds and she doesn't. But no,
I do have some people that that I definitely try
to get to. Uh, I don't get to them as
(27:35):
much as I would like to. You know, I have
a partner in Zachary doctor pay It's Zachary's Fine and
Sports Rehab. We try to link up every now and then.
And then there's a few massage therapists in town that
are great. You know. When I visited recently, Brad Dixon
right thereby Stabs did a great job. So I do
(27:55):
some massage, I do some Cairo care. I try to
exercise as much as as I can without you know,
completely getting out of whack with timing everything with kids
and and life and work. But at times, man, it
it's hard, you know, everybody, every chiropractor has the same schedule.
So so you got to take some time off and
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that means sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
So what you're telling me is that because I know
that you are healthy, I know that you you somewhat
try to watch your diet somewhat.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Okay, all right, this is it's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I know you value because this is what you do.
This is your your occupation to help people feel better
in their body. So any anything you want to add
to that, as far as like the value of exercise
and diet and stuff along that nature.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, so I would say if And I asked a
chiropractor one of my mentors before I went to school,
and at the time I thought I had the answer
to this question before I asked it. I was I
was wrong. You hear that, honey. So I asked him,
I said, what do you think is more important working
out consistently or your diet? And I was like, man,
(29:05):
this guy's about to agree with me. It's it's working out,
absolutely is working out. And he said, dude, it's diet
by far. They say it's eighty percent diet, And yeah,
I mean, how do we quantify that? I don't know,
but but yes, it's what you put into your body
is what you are, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But honey buns are delicious.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I'm just but that's not a proper way to fuel
your body.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But they're still good.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I mean, it's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It is plenty of fuel as long as we're burning it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We were at the gym one day and Dustin was
asking me about because she knows that we were joking
about baby sandwiches, the you know, the little sandwiches eat
at like weddings and stuff. And it's like, I normally
only eat one sandwich that is, you know, for lunch,
but when you get baby sandwiches, he like fifty, Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, that makes your one big sandwich.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And she told me one day, she said, well, maybe
what you need to do is in your because I
like oreos. She's said in your diet, make room for
a few oreos And I said, or a sleeve and
she said, what do you mean a sleeve? I said,
with you get the big box from Sayings and there's
thirteen oreos.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And yeah, I can verify that.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well, she was like, you know how many? You know
that absolutely I count out.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
So she was.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Like, well, maybe make room for that. But not thirteen, right, Yeah,
gotta limit yourself.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, No, I think the serving size for oreos I
think it's too which is bizarre to the Lord's not
that it's a yeah yeah, so yeah, nutrition is is
most of what most of what we need to worry about.
I see in the office all the time, just through
the amount of inflammation in somebody's body. You know, if
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you're eating everything that doesn't need to be refrigerated, chances
are it's probably not the thing that you should be eating.
That's that's the rule of thumb. Like if I mean,
if it needs to be refrigerated, if it expires, chances
are it's real food and you got a better shot
out of getting some nutrients out of that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So how many days a week should a because because
I get it, I mean I know that diet is
the majority of it. But how many days a week
should somebody be actively like just staying active, exercising, walking, whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah. So, And in this obviously none of this information
isn't meant for anybody specific. Everybody's situation is different. I
would say it depends on the intensity of that exercise. Sometimes,
so the exercise that we met doing I would say
three or four days a week is probably plenty. Some
people like to go into that five or six range.
(31:36):
But what I would say is we need to be
moving every day, so that might just be walking outside,
you know. I say outside specifically, because then you get
the sun, you get some vitamin D, and you know
that's a big deal, especially when you get into the
winter months. But if you're not, if you're not in
a position where you can do you know, one hundred
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and fifty wall balls for time, maybe yeah, well, Karen.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So for those of you who don't cross fit, you
know what he's talking about. You know what we're referring
to when we talk about Karen.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
It's awful. So if you can't do something highly intense
like that, you know, maybe more days a week of
moderately intense exercise would be better for you. So maybe
five or six days of moderate exercise, you know, then
it's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
If you don't do burpies. I know that's your favorite, Jaye.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I was hoping we could do some burpees.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Burpee's are the double.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
After this recording, y'all can go do burkeyes. Y'all have
fun with that, you know, But I know a lot
of times, you know, It's talked about just to get
outside and walk and just walking, or like if you
have an Apple watch counting your steps or trying to
get as many steps in as you can't that will
you know, that will help you if you can't do
anything else and maybe you have an injury or something
(32:53):
like that and you can't do much. Just like you said,
keep moving.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I'll tell you what's funny. They used to say that.
You know, Dustin would tell us burpies are the number
one exercise to keep people out a nursing home. And
the reason why is why the most fall because you
fall and you can't you get up, but a burpie
trains you. You fall and you pick yourself back up absolutely,
And I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I hate I do the modified version of.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah no, And that's that's what I'm getting at, is
like the walking. I stress that to a lot of
my patients because they are hurting, you know, and in
a perfect world, we are getting our heart rate up
and we are sweating, you know, multiple days a week.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So what you're saying is diet is the bulk of it,
but exercise goes hand in hand with that, and find
something you can do keep moving.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yeah, something you enjoy walk.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I know for us we like to take walks together
and while we're on that walk, we to sleeve it
Oreos Joe. But the things whenever your body is telling
you hate, get some help, get some care. To go
see some traditional doctor wonderful, but to go see someone
who maybe could give you chiropractic care. Whether it's be
(34:02):
needling adjustment, whether it's be you know, massage, therapy, whatever,
but to find somebody who can help you in that regard. Now,
I'm want to kind of shift this conversation a little
bit because we're talking more about you know, your body,
taking care of your body. But you kind of intrigued
me whenever you said that you had a degree in
vocal performance, because I did not know that. And you
(34:22):
are one of the worship leaders at our Watson campus.
We you know, for the listeners who don't know this, uh,
we we passed your church. We have two campuses and
we launched the Watson campus almost four years ago. But
you've you've kind of taken all the reins there being
the worship leader at this point and leading in that regard.
(34:43):
You probably didn't even realize when you were going for
vocal performance and maybe you wind up using that gift
for the Lord one day, but kind of talk about
that little bit what is that like to I know
I've been married to a worship leader for years, but
for you, what does that what does that look like?
What is that you know mean to you to to
lead in that regard?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It's uh, I mean the I want to answer that
immediately with fulfilling. But yeah, so I never I never
got like a full degree in vocal performance, and and
I really I hadn't used any of those skills that
I learned there for a long time. You know, I
did a lot of karaoke. That's that's about it, you know,
(35:26):
but being able to you know, coming back to to
my hometown, uh where I was. I was very much
into CrossFit and and chiropractic care at that time and
making connections with with you, with with Tyler and and
I think I think how this all came about with
with the worship he I think it was Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I think it was Murphy And I didn't even know
you could sing.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
And so I told Dustin or Bird or whoever was
there that morning. You know, hey, I you know I
can sing the national anthem, if y'all want, and I
had done that. That was the That was the one
live like a cappella thing that I really enjoyed doing
once a year. That was my That was my outlet
at that time. And so I did that. And I
(36:14):
don't know if Tyler was there or he saw the
video or what, but we had a conversation about it later.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That was your audition and you didn't even know it, right.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, Yeah, I didn't know what I was doing at
the time, but but yeah, that's how I got into it.
And what has come from that, and I guess that
was twenty nineteen. It was before COVID. What started with
that has turned into something that I could not have imagined,
you know. I know we had a conversation recently. We
(36:44):
had did done something at Central and we just caught
each other in the hallway, me and you, and we
just reminisced for about thirty seconds about like, man, you
remember you know where this started?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Where you're at now?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Yeah, And I was like, yeah, I couldn't couldn't imagine it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Like I said, I didn't even know you could sing.
And for listeners who don't you know know what you
talk about Murph.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, you need to tell
everybody what that is.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
What you want to tell everybody what it is.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
It's a thing.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
It's coming up. If anybody is interested, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, Well, and they've done that, You've done a few, so.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
It is a it is a hero workout. They call
it a hero wide Why just stands for workout of
the day, and it's called Murph. I'm not going to
go into who. I think it's Robert Murphy, I believe,
but Mike Mikero Murphy Murphy.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Sorry, if you've ever seen Loan Survivor, he's he's one
of the officers in that, and that's such.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
An amazing story and movie. But the workout is not
so amazing. It is awful.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
What was it not his personal workout or similar to
that's something that you did every day for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah. And what it is is it's a mile run.
Well and if you're doing it as prescribed, it's with
a twenty pound best. It starts with a run. It's
one hundred pull ups, two hundred push ups, three hundred
air squads, and then another mile run. Break it up
however you want, and and exhausting.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It is average and the older I get, the more
I saw this that it took me about a week
to recover from that. It was it was a long
recovery process. And so my goal was to do the
workout and break us sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
And the last year that I did it, I did
it like fifty eight minutes and thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Hadn't done it several years.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah. Yeah, So that that uh. And that's so that's
the workout that obviously you would sing the national anthem for.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
And so it's it's called the miurf and and it
is brutal, but it's a great and you don't have
to do it. They have the half murfh, the quarter murph,
all these different things. But it's great to be able
to get in that community with other people and you
cheering each other on, and it's it's exciting.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
It's just a way of honoring the best.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
And it's amazing. It's amazing what you can accomplish when
it's for something else like that, like you've got something
else in mind that day.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, well I'm not doing it this year. I might
go cheer some other people on, but you know we
talk about where you started at. To hear you sing
it was just like, man, that's awesome. And to see
where God has brought you and your precious little wife,
your family, what God's doing and y'all and three y'all,
(39:29):
it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, it's uh, it's it's really has been a blessing
to not just me, but but to our family. I mean,
like anything else, you know, there are commitments involved, and
you make sacrifices for those commitments. But it's something that
I would do over and over and over again because
of what it's been for me. I mean I always
joke and say the worship team was my first life group,
(39:52):
which might not be the way to go about it
necessarily for everybody, but for me, that's just how it happened.
And being around the people, you know, growing with those
people and now leading some of those.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Just being part of the team and which turns in
friends turn into family. Yeah, closer relationships. That's great.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Well, I'll tell you this, this has kind of been
a cool episode because I don't know if we've ever
done one talking about health, and I know we've talked
about self care. This one's different talking about exercise and
chiropractic care and massage therapy and all those different It's
a very different episode. But I'm glad we did it.
I just, you know, they were like, what are you
gonna talk to a Ben about it? I'm like, I
don't know. I'm just kind of fascinated about what he does.
You know, his job.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, it's important for us to you know, I mean
to be mindful to take care of our bodies, you know,
and that when something's wrong with our body has given
us a signal that we need to not be like
all the men in the world and not go to
the doctor or ask for help or you know.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
So guys, get some care for your body and put
down that honey button.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
You know that sleeve of oreos. Well, quick story I
did when he was doing CrossFit and he would sneak
the oreos and I would find him hiding out in
the pantry eating no lie, I'm like, what are you doing.
You're not supposed to be eating that. They're so good
and I'm so ashamed, so so in marriage, that's another
(41:19):
aspect of keeping each other.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Can I literally would hide in the pantry and eat
oreos in the dark because they're so good.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But your sin would surely find you out.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Oh well, Ben, thank you for joining us, great commerce.
Anything you want to add we wrap up.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
I think I think we covered I don't know more
than more than I thought we would. IM good.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I think the takeaway today is get to moving. Yes,
watch that diet, and if you need, you know, some
care for your body, reach out and get help. Guys especially,
I know that we have a bad habit of trying
to fix things on our own or this will fix
it on its own, and sometimes it's okay to step
out and get help. So anything you want to add,
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Stacy before we wrap.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Up, I think this is a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
That's funny, great, it's good to be able to sit
with a good friend and talk about these things. And
bringing back the CrossFit days. I mean you'd be like,
all right, he's coming back.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
We don't have to do CrossFit per se, but you
just need to exercise.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Sure, although we talked about that the other day and
we were like, yeah, we probably need to get back
into doing something. Working out it's one thing, but crossfits
a whole nother thing.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
That's a whole other level.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It's awesome. So I just want to thank everybody for
being a part of this episode today. And like I said,
if you've enjoyed this, make sure that you like you
share this with all your friends, and on our YouTube channel,
make sure you click that button that says subscribe because
that helps us to build this channel. And we have
had a wonderful time today talking about taking care of
(42:50):
our body, being healthy in a lot of different ways,
and we've enjoyed having you as a part of this episode. Ben,
thank you so much for being here today. And as always,
I'm Jay and Stacy and this is love like crazy
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