July 8, 2025 • 51 mins
Tonight on Love Like This, Orlando transforms into your late-night host with the most (aka the Big Dick Bad Bitch) and welcomes the power trio behind the legendary Sucia NYC, Luis, Morgana, and Gecko Jones, for a spicy, soulful, and surprisingly heartfelt conversation. From building safe spaces for black and brown joy to turning play parties into full-blown community healing experience. This episode goes deep. We talk creativity, consent speeches, confetti jellyfish, and yes, ass on the kitchen counter. It’s sexy, hilarious, radical, and filled with that Sucia sauce.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Allah like this.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wow, I'm so nervous, I don't podcast off. Okay, Hello
and welcome everyone. I'm Orlando AKA Orlando AKA the Big Dick,
Bad Bitch. I'm your wonderful host today. I know I
love that AKA. I'm your wonderful host today. And obviously
this podcast isn't about me today. We have wonderful guests
(00:30):
in the building. They are in an inspiration and a mentor.
All three of y'all are one mentor to me. But
we have Susia NYC in the middle, and it's AKA
Dirty Girl. But the reason why we're here today is
to have an amazing conversation of how Susia it came
(00:52):
to be. Because guys name and ladies names are ringing
off in the streets like just randomly. People I'm now
starting to me and if I mentioned play party or
sex party, Susia's name gets brought up. So I want
to introduce y'all because most time we only see Louise
making his short reels to promote parties, so there are
(01:14):
two other faces to dis conglomerate. And I want to
introduce all of y'all today and just have some conversation
because I want people to know more about the.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Whole collective of Susia. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So first we're gonna start off with Luis right here,
please introduce yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Luise Brook lou aka well known tone, one third of
Susia NYC, Susia play.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
We're gonna no ak yes, part of Susia and I
see very proud.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
And I'm Gecko Jones a part of.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The fam here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Gecko is the unicorn of the now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Just joking.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So one thing I want to ask this question that
I get asked too, is like everybody's role in this
like a play of Susia, Right. I just keep saying that,
you know, they just all work together. Everybody makes it
just So if you were to give some roles on
like what you play and when it comes to uh
Susia NYC and how you get everything going, what would
(02:17):
you say you do for Susia in the play space.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I talk a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I talk a lot, and then I kind of walk
around in circles.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It'sending to douce shit. These guys get mad at me
trying to be fixing it up. No, I try to
play in my lane.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I really feel what I've noticed, what I'm good at
is just reaching out to people, creating an air safety
and and just making people feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
MORGANA, what do you I do like daily operations, I
do the of your commenting part.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I'm very good at details, like detail oriented. I'm trying
to make all all the lists necessary old space for community.
I love that pretty much.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
I do the creative design and kind of the experience
and the vibe of the space and the events that
we put together. I put my energy into you know,
you walking into something that feels comfortable, feels elegant. You know,
it's low enough light for you to get cozy and sensual.
And I'm also the resident DJ, so I create the
(03:43):
atmosphere for the play party.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You also forgot to mention you're the resident bartender for
these parties.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Too, sometimes the bartender as much.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
We actually want to give a shout out to Lachelle,
who's been bartending most of our parties the last few months.
But no, I definitely try to stay out from behind
the bar now nowadays.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Nowadays, so I'm happy to hear that y'all all play
like your own part in making this, like Susie and Wess,
is really wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, y'all really have no.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Idea, but I'm happy to hear like the part that
y'are playing how it all comes together, because you know,
it's it's not easy working with people you know, and
then y'all are a couple at that, a married couple
at that. Congratulations, thank you, But yeah, it's definitely not
I work with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's not easy to.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Work with people that close to you.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But how is it like just working together and also
in a space that's not conventional, like the play party
space and being married at that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
She's she's really patient, she's mad patient because we're I
think in the way we look at the world and ship.
I think I'm at I'm a little more bigger picture.
She's details. So it's like, you know, we.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Managed to mess in there somewhere. She's just patient. Lady.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm glad you used patients. It's been you know, it's
it's been good. A lot of you know, challenges on
the along the line, but been. We've been together for
nine and a half years, so we kind of got
used to. You know, we already know each other, know what,
(05:26):
you know, what's gonna get us mad? Even yesterday before
the event, it's like I'm not going to ask her.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That, Oh yeah, no, no, I think I think what
I noticed is she kind of balances Gecko and I
out a lot of ways because Gecko is there fucking workhorses.
(05:56):
They just won't stop, you know what I'm saying. But
she kind of like balances between us. She's like, you know,
the third vote sometimes m hm, you know, like nope, nope, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That is beautiful because I am a tour manager for
good Mom, and I really realized, like we all need
like two one person needs two people at all times,
Like so I would need Erica and Mila, they both
Erica would need me and Mila, Mila would need but
like both me and Erica all at the same time.
And it's like this helpful hand of like balancing like
(06:33):
all three of us at the same time. It's like
really beautiful, and I'd love to see y'all do it,
because I've actually seen y'all in action behind the scenes
and as a party is going on. So it's beautiful,
beautiful to see, like how y'all work together to make
this space like work so wonderfully for everyone else.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Let's start from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's a whole it's a whole community.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah yeah, and that's what I want to get into
because you could just you know, have an event space
and just throw play parties, but you got y'all go
further in creating a whole community. So how do we
even get here?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
What what makes you three go? We're going to start
throwing parties? So people can fuck here?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We do we meet you? I could go to Ananda
or No.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
We were introduced more properly at via os, so there's
a there's a no.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
It wasn't with Tiana.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
We were both at that party and you guys introduce yourselves,
you know, and I think we exchanged math, but it
was just kind of a quick interaction. There's a space
here in New York coaenda that was in the New
York Times recently.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh yeah, we're gonna get to that.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
But uh, they there was a rope person there and
he called like he had worked a couple of my
parties because I was hosting events, as were they, and
after he worked their event, he was you know, he
hit me up and he was like, yo, get like,
I think you got you should.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Meet this couple.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
You know, they're doing something really dope, like you know,
and it's similar and if you guys put your power,
you know, your powers combined, like it would be really dope.
And so uh he invited us all three over to
the spot and we sat down in the backyard. Whatno
had a drink and I'll tell you, like not ten
minutes in, you know, like vibe was good, and you know,
(08:30):
I was like, so, you know, y'all want to do
a party, like, you know, because they had what they
were describing sounded dope. What I had was was going
you know, was starting off. But you know, I like
the direction I was going to. And so it was like,
let's see what happens when we put it on the pot.
And that first event there at how to end up
hot fire, and it's just all right, cool, let's do something.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Let's do this some more, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
And we did a few rotations at various spots in
the city and I think, you know, like fourth or
fifth party, Me and Seymour and a couple other people
more gana are like loading out this what do you
call it?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
A like third floor walk up?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
You know what I'm saying, Like we're bringing down mattresses
and like it's four o'clock five o'clock in the morning,
and I don't really want to be doing this after
the party.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I want to be at the after.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Party, you know what I'm saying, doing drugs and get
laid like I've been DJing all night, Like I want
to turn up now.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
And you know, me and more Gana looked at each other.
It's like, Yo, this ain't it. You know what I'm saying,
Like we got to do this different.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
We need a spot while we're paying other people's rent to,
you know, to facilitate something that is ultimately like, you know,
for black and brown people, and we're playing you know,
most of the time paying black folks or white folks rent.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You know, that's not the vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Paying white folks is not the vibe.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think the moment for me was I was driving
the van at five I am six am on five
inch high heels, a van full of like all our
decorations and everything, and I was like, I don't want
to do this anymore.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
That was the marathon, right, That was the day of
the the Nineties party.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yes, that was a marathon.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That was we had a park, so we did a
party somewhere on Fourth Avenue park slope and I forgot
that that Sunday was the marathon.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Everything's cut off. So we're walking out like the.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Morning, like twitching, like you know, like scurrying trying to Yeah, yeah,
I remember that dash Shi.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It was fucking crazy. Yeah, that was that was That
was a moment.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And then I think for us another another aha moment
or funk that moment. We were at her old apartment
and we were moved in there for about a year,
and you know, we had started, you know, started meeting
people and we had people over and I don't know,
I just had this moment of clarity of what I
(11:04):
looked around and I was like, Yo, there is ass
on my kitchen counter. There's ass on the couch, there's
ass on the head of the couch, there's ass on
the armchair, there's ass.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
On the floor.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
This is everyone's sitting around naked and talking and some
people are fucking I'm just like I was like, nah,
I was like this, this is not the move right here.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And then.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
For Ships and Giggles, we were just really trying to
like you know, get in the mode of practicing, like
to look for places, and Simon was like, let's go
look at this place, and we walked in and I
think you and I we were like, nah man, this
is like too much shit. This place was fucked up,
and Simon was like, we're taking this place. We were like, yo, chill,
this is like chill, ma, you know, this is too
(11:49):
much and nah man, she she know, she's a she's
a force of nature. So we took it and we
spent like three months, three months throwing it out.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Moved in two weeks before the last.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, oh wow, yeah, We're like, it's New York shutting down.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We talked about it was there that ship that Yeah,
the stress settled in, but you know it was worth it.
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I got to see get doers thing when it's capable of,
which was really dope. Seymour was in there. Mem I'm
always like, let's do less. Is a lot, there's a lot,
you know, but they're just I was like, all right, cool,
let's do it. And the outcome became the space that
that you came to.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, you know, oh man, that's so beautiful. And I'm
happy that Louise and Organa was able was willing to
do a party with you, because when I came to
them for the first time, I said, hey, I want
to do a party here.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Louis was like, no, but.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Not, it doesn't It was it was it was like, hey,
you know what before you do that? Like not, because
I dug your vibe and I know how it gets.
It's really easy to think you could throw a play
party and not think about the safety, not think about
the possible triggering people of the you know. It's just
(13:16):
it's a very dangerous thing, you know. So I was like,
you know, you seem like a good brother. If you're
serious about it, you know, start building your own little community,
start getting the says the Bouyon, get the Bouyon together,
and then come back in.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Because thing about it is for me, it's very important.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Whoever's in our space, like has to be safe, has
to be top notch, because something bad happens in our space.
Even if it's not us and it's evental, it still
blows back on us, you know. And I'd rather pass
on money then get money. That's funny, funny money, funny money.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And that is one of the reasons why I trusted
you even more with this space, because I care about
people and to see someone else go, hey, let's do
this the right way, or like let's put you through
the ringer with some other parties, just to make sure
that not only you're doing it the right way, but
the people that are coming to your space are experiencing
the right type of experience. And from that moment I
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started to realize how I can play a part in
like the play party space with feeling like I can
be a bridge right too people that aren't really in
the space and that have the proper type of interest
and the proper type of intention, and then bringing them
in like and saying like, hey, you know, as black
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and round people, it's not really advertised to us, so
we don't really know what directions to go even if we.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Have an interest or curiosity.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So when it goes through podcasting where it could like
blast out to such a range of people and they
can come and say, hey, I'm interested, and then, which
is something I wasn't keen on before, there's the whole
vetting form process and putting them through and getting that
kind of information to know from them before we even
like amass them in a certain place. I've learned so
(15:11):
much just from like that one moment and from moments
I've had with you, which is why I say all
three of y'all are my.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like one mentor.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's really about safety, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And I have to say, from a dude's perspective, Mike,
what I thought as being safe and unsafe was changed
radically because of Morgana's presence, because it's a woman's perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
They view the world differently, they experienced it differently, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And as we met more beautiful black queer people and
transgender people, even more perspectives of what safety is and
what could trigger. So it's like a constant evolving thing,
like we deserve better, We deserve to center our joy
and our pleasure and ourselves in a space that is safe.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And I think I think, no matter what it is,
no matter what it is, whatever kind of party it is,
it was a regular party, Like just be safe, you
know what I'm saying, Like I'm not trying to go
on to play party and get patted down, Like what
it's like going to a brunch of getting padded down?
And I've walked into play parties? Are you about to
pat me down? Like what the fuck kind of what
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are you doing? You know, that's not there a bucket
for the guns, you know what I'm saying, take a ticket,
Like no.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So what kind of uh uh uh? Just the word
I'm looking for. I feel like a bridge. How how
do you feel, SUSI a lands in like the play
party space or just like the lifestyle space at that
Like what do you offer to everyone? Because I have
something that I assume that y'all offer, But I'm gonna
let youall answer first.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
First is community and was always community, and it grew,
you know, organically. We weren't planning on you know, blowing up,
so to speak, organically growing and just connecting with people
(17:15):
and from there just enjoying and building connections and meeting
their families and being like, okay, we can you know,
like go to a show and like have a good
vanilla time and then after that just some adult time
just beautiful, you know. And at every you know, like stage,
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we're like, okay, we can. I think we can, you know,
like do this. And a long time we went just
word of mouth, so it wasn't advertised anywhere, just us
meeting people, our friends bringing their friends and that was it.
And you know, two years ago we started like okay,
(18:03):
we feel like we're ready to you know, to grow
the foundation is already yeah, yeah, and as strong.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I would say the word amount is still happening too,
because I was working with Live Show for Good Moms
and the audio guy right next to me were just
chatting it up. He's asking, what are you guys doing?
After I was like, we're going to go to a
play party after this, he was like, oh, man, yeah,
I keep hearing about these things.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I heard about this one group that that does them.
I think their name is Susia And I was like,
that's super fun. So I saw I sent him like
the vetting form. He was like, you know, even if
I don't come, will I'll be known to other events.
I was like, you just fell out the vting form.
We'll have your email down, 't worry about it. So yeah,
the word amounth is still wording strong.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think it's what's important. It's key m hm. I know,
like the amount of work put into it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
It's a lot like the ship is like nearing social
work almost sometimes, because I remember when Echo brought up
some of the workshops that we started with.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
There was an immen's chap.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
There was some transphobic language going on, and the dudes
in the chat police themselves really quick. They were like, yo,
that's kind of violent, and then Gecko was like, yo,
we should do a workshop around that. Who was it
who did the workshop?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Baron Fife.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, And it was just around like identifying toxic masculinity
in the black and brown play space. And then from
there kind that kind of touch, We're like, okay, let's
at doing workshops and we're doing game nights and just
like it was dope, but you know, it was like
it's a lot of work. There's a lot of work
(19:45):
and we live in the space.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
That's that is the hard part, like living in the
space and facilitating so much room for community and you know,
so you know, like that that year particularly, you know,
we'd have a meet you know, like our game night,
which was you know, to put you on game and
like we'd have a workshop and then we'd have like
board games and stuff and you know, like you get
to know people in that kind of like somewhat competitive space.
(20:10):
I can't even say somewhat about games like you know,
in space like you to.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Feel like.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
But you know, we could have like you know, a
rental on Friday, you know, our play party on Saturday,
and then a dance party on Sunday, which is what
we were using to kind of like vet new people
that were coming in as we were growing. And that's
a lot of space to hold for people. And then
you know, sometimes people are more curious to have questions.
So throughout the rest of the week, you know, I
would say, you know, mostly these two because I'm not
(20:39):
really the most social person, you know that like they had,
but I acknowledge it. You know, like they're handing, you know,
they're handling like you know, people's questions and like sometimes
people just like want to get something off their chests,
and it's like hours of your life sometimes you know,
to make space to make someone feel comfortable and you know,
not just welcome, but like a part of community.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
And you know, you you you.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Are coming into a space and it's just like you're
not just a ticket buyer. You know, you're coming into
something that like you want to be a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
M M M.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That is a difference between y'all and a lot of spaces.
And I used to always wonder, like how the fuck
did they get so much people to trust them? But
I realized that you y'all go the extra step, right,
Like it's not just we're throwing sex parties, which y'all
have also changed my language, Like I barely say sex
parties when it comes to y'all or it comes to us,
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because it's really a play party, because the best part
of these events are not the sex part it's actually
that it's a great fucking party.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's a really good party.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And I really have to tell people like, oh, so
people are you're going to fucking I'm like, no, it's
actually a really good party. Like we don't even have
table service and bottle service. Wish we should, we really
start talking about but we don't have tables and bottle service.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
We have VIPs.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But we brought brought back the dancing aspect to parties,
the vibe aspect of parties, the the the like the
additions and having like the king spaces and stuff like
that to like elevate like that type of experience, so
people aren't just walking in and going all right, gotta
talk to somebody. The fuck I need to talk to
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somebody and then sex. That's the only thing I can
do here. So it takes a lot. They were definitely
like this last party I came from from the bar.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
ASSUSI at USP brick shout out Plug Franklin in Union
Crown Heights. I came from from my bar into the
space and get goes building the confession stall right and
it's this motherfucker right here. These two will be like,
you know, you know what, it's the night before, let's
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do some let's do some wild ship that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Would take a regular person a week to do.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So I walk, I just hear the zoo and I'm
just like, coming off work, I'm like, oh, he's building
a falling the space.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I know geck, I know them. I know they're
gonna get it together.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
So it's like coming off that and then switching over
to the party energy and then the guardians shout out
to all the guardians who come in and and volunteer
and and and just hold space for people.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
They came in the music started.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
People were a little you know, apprehensive at first, and
that should melted away because I think the most important
thing a lot of people don't get is that we're
in a space where the pretense is taken out.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah yeah, there's like no like we know, we know
why we're here.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You know, I'm not saying that's the goal, but you know,
it was trying to get a little signed you know,
experienced little sien.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So so that's taken out the picture.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You don't have to game anybody, you don't have to
come with like a slick line and it's like, hey, well,
how you doing. You know, And because we do, we
have evolved from like you know, a chill sex party
to a play party into a space where like sex
(24:16):
and politics intersect. You know what I'm saying, because we're
talking about consent. We're talking about these things and they
tied directly to things that are going on around the world.
You know what I'm saying, We're talking about body autonomy.
There are people on the other side of the world
who don't have any body autonomy, don't have any consent
about what's going on in their lives. So, you know,
(24:37):
we're contributing a portion of money to places like Heal Palestine,
the Shout Out and Children's Palestinian really fun. So these
things are there. It's interconnected. I'll hear conversations. I'll literally
see someone get in head over here, someone having a
conversation about like some political shit, and then someone over
(24:57):
there talking about I don't know, like took too many
dick pills and some ship.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So it's just like you get this this vast like
array of conversations all within the earshot, you know. So
it's I think that's really what what separates us from
other places because it's it's it's like it's not just
here's the space, give me your money, and I'm gonna
(25:23):
be like this just the cool dude, you know what
I'm saying. Like that that there, I mean, you know whatever,
Susi has dope.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So yeah, I put I put my whole name on
that ship.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I put her name, his name on that ship, like
eyes closed, like we're gonna keep doing the work.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
We're gonna keep pushing it, doing more creative ship.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Like like, son, didn't you guys turn the inside the
house into a circus tent?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Remember my lard everywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Like this was a fucking circus tent in the basement
and me and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Like, wild, this is so much, you know what I'm saying.
And other times morgana under though.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
She she made like a thousand little paper plate jellyfish filters,
coffee filtered jellyfish hitting from the ceiling, and we had
lights and water lights and I was like, again, like,
why are y'all doing this?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
When I saw that the result, I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Need dreamers, man.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Funny enough, the next week was the Huge Flood.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh man huge.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I will say that this space is definitely helpful not
only for like individuals, but definitely also for couples. Because
the party that we had, which was to play party
after party for a Good Month's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Live show tour, it was certain something came up.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That that would come up like in a relationship. So
for me specifically, uh, someone had offered meal drugs, very
safe legal drugs in the United States, right, and she
was just like, you know what, give me one second,
let me find out where my boyfriend is.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Just so happened the same person also.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Offered me drugs, very safe legal drugs in the United States,
and I was like, give me one second. And so
before when we were just like individuals and when we
were single, we'd be like, oh, hey.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Fun drugs. I know you you're cool, Like, let's go
into it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But now that we have like we're together and the
consideration of the other person will let them know like, hey,
this is about to happen. Just giving you like the
heads up and like and just getting the confirmation from
the other person that cares about you, like all right, cool,
thank you for letting me know. And then another point
I was I saw a friend of ours at least
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shout out to her. She had some Wartenberg wheels and
some blades and some claws and stuff like that, And
so I ended up getting tied up.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
He was like like, hey, my man was like, what naked?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Like this guy? So I got who's sitting?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So as I was there and I was laying there
getting tied up and like claude and like knives just
running over my body. Like I looked at the right
and Mila is naked, and like some other guy is
naked and they're just like dancing. He's like dancing regular
to the music. And I'm laying there like this is
one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had, like
seeing it all encompassing, like coming together and then being
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able to share this experience with.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
My own partner.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
When I got home that night, when I tell you,
I bust her ass in that bedroom, Oh bab I
was so fucking sexually charged up. And then I'm laying
and then we finished, we finished having sex and I'm
laying there in her ears because I'm on a very
legal drug in the United States.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm in here. You're like, I just want to let
you know I love you.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I love you, and I love our family.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I love you. I see how your friends protect you.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
We really have a great drive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This is great sea, That's what.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I think one thing that you touched on and I
want to point out is you being able to watch
your lady dance with someone naked. That speaks volumes on
the work you've done around male ownership. You know what
I'm saying, which is a huge thing. It's it's like,
you know, and I'm sinking from Math's perspective, you know, obviously,
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it's this thing that we have where we're like this
where like everything and even couples like when you stop
trying to be the center of someone else's life and
you're just like, look like, we don't. We don't have
to be up each other's ass all the time. We
don't have to to like my all, my joy or
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every last good feeling I have shouldn't come from you.
It's a lot, it's a lot of responsibility, and if
you drop the ball once you know what I'm saying,
it's like the fuck you know you're so I think
that is a thing that I really I learned on
my journey, you know, just just letting go because the
person is going to be there. Yeah, and you're like,
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I've been holding onto this person, but they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So am I holding onto them? You know?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And it's just like a relief, you know. And for
single people coming in and we have a lot of
sisters that come by themselves and that told me something too,
And just in conversations with them, realizing that you know,
some of them, a lot of them on their own journey.
A lot of them are actively like trying to heal
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from sexual trauma or connect with their bodies, or some
people have social anxiety.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I met.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I met this one real interesting woman who's like, you know,
I suffer from extreme social anxiety.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And she's standing telling me the naked.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Right and I'm like, all right, She's like, but but
something about this space makes me feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I could see it in her a little once. I
saw it in her, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
This is you're really fucking brave, Like you're coming out
here on your own from I think like Connecticut or
some shit, you know, and you're being you, You're glowing,
you know, you're challenging yourself. So I think a lot
of people don't realize what a healing space it is
because we do offer like the impact stations, the sensory stations,
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the music, the dancing, the camaraderie, the community, the blackness,
you know. And one thing people don't get is like
we are focused on on bipoc black folks, but you know,
white people are definitely allowed to come in. They just
can't bring their whiteness with them. You know, there is
no space in our community for whiteness. As as as
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as this thing that was created to counter us.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, you're just coming to be a human. It's a
real human experience. Yeah, they're just coming in, chill, coming
in dance, you know, like that's that's the whole thing.
Get a little Sussia.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
So one of the things that stand out about your
party is not only is it an amazing party, but
it's a very safe space right where that gets thrown
thrown around a million fucking times, but you really do
the work to make sure it feels safe. One of
the things that I've learned from you and I love
so much and everybody loves is this motherfucking consent speech?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Was that always a thing or did it come up
like as time went on and you realize that it's
very helpful, was it?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
I mean we did it at our first one.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You did the first one. Yeah, started from the first one.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, because when we're doing our department, we knew everybody.
But even in that situation, it still should be because
you just never know, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I remember before before we moved into the space, our
consent speech was the consent speech first, and then we
would go around in circle. Everybody would get to introduce
themselves and you know, say what they want from the
night or what intent what their intentions, and just you know,
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you would be like, oh, this is this is what
she wants, So I gotcha, I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think is which I think is is great and just
when but it got too big, it just ends up
just gonna take like an hour.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Giving it almost like a church vibe helps you know,
you're talking to people, not at them, You're connect thing
with them, You're not lecturing them.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know, you're not reading off of a paper.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You're just again connecting with humans and letting them know
when everyone is there, and it's like, but also the
work has been there's steps to that. There's like the
vedding form, there's individual conversations, there's the meet and greet beforehand.
There's you know, the three of us walking around talking
to people. You know, there's our community members, the ogs
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who've been there forever talking to people. So yeah, the
guardians now the guardians, man, I love my love. There
were some birthdays we didn't realize it was a Sir
Nick shout out to Sir Nick, Diamond Avida Fernando Avita
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Sawyer's managed them. Yeah, but you know, we brought a
little birthday cake out, did the birthday thing, and it's
just like that's.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think that's what you're supposed to do, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Like I think another thing that separates us from other
houses is that it's not an old to our egos
mm hmm. It's not like we didn't create something so
we could be the cool kids in high school, like,
you know, just trying to trying to work through our
trauma and the worst way possible.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, Rona asked people like, you know, what was I
going to say? The safety has been very important. I've
loved it so much, and oh, yes, someone had recently
asked me the story about safety. Someone had asked me, uh,
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what am I about to be? What I'm about to
do on us the night that we threw the party,
and I was like, I'm going to his play party?
And they said that, Oh, did you hear about what
happened in the daily news about Hacienda? And I was like,
what happened there? Was like, you know, there was some
violations and stuff like that over some time, and you know,
and they said, this is just why you gotta worry
about those spaces. And I was like, well, things like
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that is the reason why I partner and throw play parties,
because if I don't do it in a trusted space
where I know that I'm going to have the correct intentions,
then you're going to get more of this.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And so I was.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I was happy and proud to say that because I
know partnering with y'all, like, safety is such a big
thing that.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
We know how to navigate or work through it or
it's not.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I don't truly don't believe something you can control, but
it is something that you know how to go about.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
After it happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So how is it with safety, because I know we
can't always control everybody and everything, but how is it
with all these modalities in place with safety in SUSI.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I see, we make sure that.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
If anything happens consent violations, we're there. We're talking to
both parts. We want to make sure that we have
the whole story. We make a board, we consult with everybody.
We want to make sure that they're you know, they
have they go through justice events. If that work would work,
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if it's asked for you right, If not, they get
they get banned or they get temporarily banned or forever
it happened.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
M Yeah, let's think about it. It's like, as safe
as we are, it's never nothing as one hundred percent safe.
There's always going to be something. There's always gonna and
and people don't get like it's not a consent violation,
is just someone grabbing your ass and you ask for it.
There's little things that fuck with you. The hand of
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the small of the back when you're walking by and
someone touches you and you're like, I didn't ask to
be touched, and then you're left with that, you.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Know, and who knows what kind of things you struggled with.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
In your prior day or in your life where it's
just like I'm being touched again. I didn't ask for
it and I'm here. So things things like that. You know,
we've kicked people out for doing that, like you we
just saw you walk by two or three people and
great or graze. Yeah, you know, like no, you gotta
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go like this is not it. And I'll you know,
we've we've kicked out friends, like people who feel like
now like it's not sorry, you got to go like
this is especially you.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Bro, I know if it feels weird, right, I know, that's.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
You know, it's also very important to make the distinction
between a trigger and a challenge. In these spaces, it's
something that is triggering and I cannot get over it,
or it's something that is challenging me and that I
can learn from it and heal. So we you know,
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there's there's groundbreaking moments.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's it's it's it's constant reassessment.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
You know, recently, in you know, in a couple of
the consent speeches that I heard Lewis give kind of
started to shift from using the term safe space to
brave space because it does take courage to walk into
these spaces and you know, facing this, this discomfort that
I'm feeling, you know, like doesn't necessarily warrant like some
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other person's cancelation in the community because you know, they
ask you a question, you know, and those those kind
of conversations, know, and that distinction is really important.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, I wanted to ask because we're talking about everybody
else and Susia and how it makes them feel.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But how does what does Sussia y C. Do for y'all?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Like just seeing this and being the host and being
able to put this on for people and seeing the
result of the safety, the fun, the community, Like what
does it do for y'all individually?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
You know, my my background prior to to holding this
space is I had run several different kinds of different
nightlife spaces and you know, I was doing a Latin
rave for that community and playing Afro Latin music and
you know, to shift into holding you know, something more
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sensual but still with the intention of you know, it
being a bipod centered space, you know, felt equally important
and you know, coming like you know, I started right
around the time of the Me Too movement, like where
I started taking interest and exploring this world. It seemed
really really urgent to me to kind of like heal.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
What felt like a riff.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Between the masculine and the feminine and you know, shouts
to all my two spirit alphabet people. But yeah, that's
creating spaces to have unique experiences. It's like for me,
I'm a person that like, if I want to go
pay cover to hear a DJ play, I want to
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hear things that I've never heard. If it sounds just
like hot ninety seven on the taxi right there, I'm
at the wrong place.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
That's not what I paid to go see.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
And so if I want to go have an experience,
I want the music to be dope. I want the lighting,
the sound, the performance, everything to be really like, wow,
that was an amazing night. That was worth the investment
of my time and energy and money or whatever. But
like you know, walking away from that was a fantastic night.
I love creating experiences like that. So that's that's what
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I get back from it.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Nice I get. I get healing, I get community, I
get I get to be creative, and I love that connection.
I get to be a part of this wonderful organization
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that not only just creates a brave space for people
too to enjoy two meet people and so on.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I think.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
A couple of things in a cool way. I get
my performance not off because I came up performing and
community building, so it's like a.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Way into that.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I like, I like seeing people happy, and then it
kind of evolved into like I like seeing people having breakthroughs. Yeah,
like that for me is like super dope like that
that's like okay cool, Like like you you you push
through something or you were in a space where you
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could get out of what you were in.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, you know, I like that.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I love that, I would say, for me, makes you
feel empowered. That brave space, then she said, is really
like on point because further than it being in say space,
it really is empowering to know that I have the
power to speak up to say something and that I
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have people that are going to back me. And then
that's I think that's a lot of things. That's something
that really is on the mind of possibly like women
when they come into a spaces like even if I
say something or I have the power of bravery to
say something, will I have the execution after it?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Like what will will somebody listen to me with somebody
like actually act on what I'm saying and believe me.
And so I feel empowered in the space just knowing
that it's so safe that I can say something that
is so comfortable that I can speak on the things
that I want, and just seeing everybody's so happy and
free really like charges me up and like empowers me.
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And then I just go home and fuck the shit
out of me.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Look, that's beautiful. And to say you know, and to
say no.
Speaker 8 (44:31):
And like the the space to be able to accept
the no, yeah, accept rejection, work through all that.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful. All right, beautiful people? Can we give
an outro? Right?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Where where can the people find SUSSI NYC y'all individually?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, as a collective y'all, as a party.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Y'all is fun, y'all is safe and bravery or can
where can the people find y'all in the vials collective?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
You can find us at SUSSI A n y C
on I G.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
I also want to point out that ORGANA is also
running SUSI I fem mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
And then in tandem with.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Max and Ashley, Uh, there's a new there's a SUSI
a queer, which is which is dope?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I guess based on the last party, No.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Sis hetero dudes allowed, So get going on how to
go sit in this dude's van and just watched like
fucking what was that gaya the aliens.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Like six hours aliens they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
It's cool, but that's the thing about holding space, like
we're not needed and if you know, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's like whatever, we're going through a straight man play party.
It's only straight men.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
That was brought up, that was brought up in the chat.
It was like, all right, I mean cool, but we
but we do have guys nights.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, we'll go out. You know, well the guys
knights are always I love being to my brothers, but
the setup is a little uderwhelming.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
So we'll get there and it's like the ladies night
there charcot treeboards out grapes, like all this beautiful ship
and we get to the guys night.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I'm like, y'all, y'all literally have a hold of chips chips,
but there's still some hot tacky.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
What we gotta do is the same thing that the
women and the queers do to us. You got to
have them set up and then kick them out.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I can't be here.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's a straight party.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
We be here, be We're devolved, just all of us
right here. It's gonna smell funny when you get back
my feet.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, there's also.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
N y.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
So I've been tabling with a kind of like a
sex and Spanish you know and Spanglish kind kind of
vibe and lets me play boletos and you know, get
get romantic in that Latin lovel kind of way.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
And that's that's that's a joy for for for me
and for.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Us because it lets me touch musically into like what
what my background is. It's just you know, like my
brain works in two different languages, and you know, like
being able to kind of flex it on that side
is nice.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh wait. Also Lucia, Borkana and Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
We're starting a project out there, and May eighteenth is
going to be our first meet up dance party to
prepare for late fall. We're going to have an actual
play retreat out there. We're bringing people out from here
to mesh with the folks that are down there because
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I know a lot a lot of play parties that
are traveling will just.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Go to resort, right and just stay there.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Like now, we're here with the people, and it's gonna
it's gonna be some serious vetting. Definitely understand that we're
not going to a resort. We're gonna be around real people.
We're gonna learn about the history of the place. We're
gonna have entertainment that is indigenous to that space. I
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don't ask for burgers and ship.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I don't do that. Don't ask for R and B
because it's.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Gonna we we we we were going straight Bodiquas style
for that. And then we're hoping to go to different places,
you know, just wherever there is a black community or
of the diaspora, you know, we're gonna go there and
you know, build with social workers, build with social activists,
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build with community or going as I always always with
the queer population.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
They just always seem to be ready for this event.
It's a head of rowse suck it up, so exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
You got to get better head of rows.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Wow, it was so good to interview you.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh and I love partnering with y'all fellas, y'all are amazing.
But working with morgana behind the scenes is top not
we are on point.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, I'm just like, oh my god. So sometimes I
feel utterly useless. I don't know where anything is that
I don't ask morg.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
But but working with all of y'all and seeing y'all
the tribute uh different things to like this space and
like I said, being a mentor to me, it's it's
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I love y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Y'all are amazing man, and thank you and yeah, thank you, Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I love you, Bro.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I try my best.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, it's a pleasure to do all these things with
y'all and hopefully I could become the second unicorantye y'all alongside.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Guy Yes seven La, yes, oh yeah, good this comes out.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Twenty seven would be long passed by the time this
comes out. But we will have play parties after this
episode is out, So please quarterly quarterly it's coming, La.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
We taken over. But subscribe to to us.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
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Speaker 3 (50:45):
So subscribe to us. Listen to us.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
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Another great amazing people. I am Orlando AKA Orlando a
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AKA in the world, and thank y'all for listening.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
K U lah lah lah lah like this
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Wow, I'm so nervous, I don't podcast off. Okay, Hello
and welcome everyone. I'm Orlando AKA Orlando AKA the Big Dick,
Bad Bitch. I'm your wonderful host today. I know I
love that AKA. I'm your wonderful host today. And obviously
this podcast isn't about me today. We have wonderful guests
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in the building. They are in an inspiration and a mentor.
All three of y'all are one mentor to me. But
we have Susia NYC in the middle, and it's AKA
Dirty Girl. But the reason why we're here today is
to have an amazing conversation of how Susia it came
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to be. Because guys name and ladies names are ringing
off in the streets like just randomly. People I'm now
starting to me and if I mentioned play party or
sex party, Susia's name gets brought up. So I want
to introduce y'all because most time we only see Louise
making his short reels to promote parties, so there are
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two other faces to dis conglomerate. And I want to
introduce all of y'all today and just have some conversation
because I want people to know more about the.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Whole collective of Susia. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So first we're gonna start off with Luis right here,
please introduce yourself.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Luise Brook lou aka well known tone, one third of
Susia NYC, Susia play.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
We're gonna no ak yes, part of Susia and I
see very proud.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
And I'm Gecko Jones a part of.
Speaker 7 (01:47):
The fam here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, Gecko is the unicorn of the now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Just joking.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So one thing I want to ask this question that
I get asked too, is like everybody's role in this
like a play of Susia, Right. I just keep saying that,
you know, they just all work together. Everybody makes it
just So if you were to give some roles on
like what you play and when it comes to uh
Susia NYC and how you get everything going, what would
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you say you do for Susia in the play space.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I talk a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I talk a lot, and then I kind of walk
around in circles.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
It'sending to douce shit. These guys get mad at me
trying to be fixing it up. No, I try to
play in my lane.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I really feel what I've noticed, what I'm good at
is just reaching out to people, creating an air safety
and and just making people feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
MORGANA, what do you I do like daily operations, I
do the of your commenting part.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I'm very good at details, like detail oriented. I'm trying
to make all all the lists necessary old space for community.
I love that pretty much.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
I do the creative design and kind of the experience
and the vibe of the space and the events that
we put together. I put my energy into you know,
you walking into something that feels comfortable, feels elegant. You know,
it's low enough light for you to get cozy and sensual.
And I'm also the resident DJ, so I create the
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atmosphere for the play party.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You also forgot to mention you're the resident bartender for
these parties.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Too, sometimes the bartender as much.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
We actually want to give a shout out to Lachelle,
who's been bartending most of our parties the last few months.
But no, I definitely try to stay out from behind
the bar now nowadays.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Nowadays, so I'm happy to hear that y'all all play
like your own part in making this, like Susie and Wess,
is really wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, y'all really have no.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Idea, but I'm happy to hear like the part that
y'are playing how it all comes together, because you know,
it's it's not easy working with people you know, and
then y'all are a couple at that, a married couple
at that. Congratulations, thank you, But yeah, it's definitely not
I work with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's not easy to.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Work with people that close to you.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But how is it like just working together and also
in a space that's not conventional, like the play party
space and being married at that.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
She's she's really patient, she's mad patient because we're I
think in the way we look at the world and ship.
I think I'm at I'm a little more bigger picture.
She's details. So it's like, you know, we.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Managed to mess in there somewhere. She's just patient. Lady.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I'm glad you used patients. It's been you know, it's
it's been good. A lot of you know, challenges on
the along the line, but been. We've been together for
nine and a half years, so we kind of got
used to. You know, we already know each other, know what,
(05:26):
you know, what's gonna get us mad? Even yesterday before
the event, it's like I'm not going to ask her.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That, Oh yeah, no, no, I think I think what
I noticed is she kind of balances Gecko and I
out a lot of ways because Gecko is there fucking workhorses.
(05:56):
They just won't stop, you know what I'm saying. But
she kind of like balances between us. She's like, you know,
the third vote sometimes m hm, you know, like nope, nope, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That is beautiful because I am a tour manager for
good Mom, and I really realized, like we all need
like two one person needs two people at all times,
Like so I would need Erica and Mila, they both
Erica would need me and Mila, Mila would need but
like both me and Erica all at the same time.
And it's like this helpful hand of like balancing like
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all three of us at the same time. It's like
really beautiful, and I'd love to see y'all do it,
because I've actually seen y'all in action behind the scenes
and as a party is going on. So it's beautiful,
beautiful to see, like how y'all work together to make
this space like work so wonderfully for everyone else.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Let's start from the beginning.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's a whole it's a whole community.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah yeah, and that's what I want to get into
because you could just you know, have an event space
and just throw play parties, but you got y'all go
further in creating a whole community. So how do we
even get here?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
What what makes you three go? We're going to start
throwing parties? So people can fuck here?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
We do we meet you? I could go to Ananda
or No.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
We were introduced more properly at via os, so there's
a there's a no.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
It wasn't with Tiana.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
We were both at that party and you guys introduce yourselves,
you know, and I think we exchanged math, but it
was just kind of a quick interaction. There's a space
here in New York coaenda that was in the New
York Times recently.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh yeah, we're gonna get to that.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
But uh, they there was a rope person there and
he called like he had worked a couple of my
parties because I was hosting events, as were they, and
after he worked their event, he was you know, he
hit me up and he was like, yo, get like,
I think you got you should.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Meet this couple.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
You know, they're doing something really dope, like you know,
and it's similar and if you guys put your power,
you know, your powers combined, like it would be really dope.
And so uh he invited us all three over to
the spot and we sat down in the backyard. Whatno
had a drink and I'll tell you, like not ten
minutes in, you know, like vibe was good, and you know,
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I was like, so, you know, y'all want to do
a party, like, you know, because they had what they
were describing sounded dope. What I had was was going
you know, was starting off. But you know, I like
the direction I was going to. And so it was like,
let's see what happens when we put it on the pot.
And that first event there at how to end up
hot fire, and it's just all right, cool, let's do something.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
Let's do this some more, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
And we did a few rotations at various spots in
the city and I think, you know, like fourth or
fifth party, Me and Seymour and a couple other people
more gana are like loading out this what do you
call it?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
A like third floor walk up?
Speaker 6 (09:15):
You know what I'm saying, Like we're bringing down mattresses
and like it's four o'clock five o'clock in the morning,
and I don't really want to be doing this after
the party.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I want to be at the after.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Party, you know what I'm saying, doing drugs and get
laid like I've been DJing all night, Like I want
to turn up now.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
And you know, me and more Gana looked at each other.
It's like, Yo, this ain't it. You know what I'm saying,
Like we got to do this different.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
We need a spot while we're paying other people's rent to,
you know, to facilitate something that is ultimately like, you know,
for black and brown people, and we're playing you know,
most of the time paying black folks or white folks rent.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
You know, that's not the vibe.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Paying white folks is not the vibe.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I think the moment for me was I was driving
the van at five I am six am on five
inch high heels, a van full of like all our
decorations and everything, and I was like, I don't want
to do this anymore.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
That was the marathon, right, That was the day of
the the Nineties party.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yes, that was a marathon.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
That was we had a park, so we did a
party somewhere on Fourth Avenue park slope and I forgot
that that Sunday was the marathon.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Everything's cut off. So we're walking out like the.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Morning, like twitching, like you know, like scurrying trying to Yeah, yeah,
I remember that dash Shi.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
It was fucking crazy. Yeah, that was that was That
was a moment.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And then I think for us another another aha moment
or funk that moment. We were at her old apartment
and we were moved in there for about a year,
and you know, we had started, you know, started meeting
people and we had people over and I don't know,
I just had this moment of clarity of what I
(11:04):
looked around and I was like, Yo, there is ass
on my kitchen counter. There's ass on the couch, there's
ass on the head of the couch, there's ass on
the armchair, there's ass.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
On the floor.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
This is everyone's sitting around naked and talking and some
people are fucking I'm just like I was like, nah,
I was like this, this is not the move right here.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And then.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
For Ships and Giggles, we were just really trying to
like you know, get in the mode of practicing, like
to look for places, and Simon was like, let's go
look at this place, and we walked in and I
think you and I we were like, nah man, this
is like too much shit. This place was fucked up,
and Simon was like, we're taking this place. We were like, yo, chill,
this is like chill, ma, you know, this is too
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much and nah man, she she know, she's a she's
a force of nature. So we took it and we
spent like three months, three months throwing it out.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Moved in two weeks before the last.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, oh wow, yeah, We're like, it's New York shutting down.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
We talked about it was there that ship that Yeah,
the stress settled in, but you know it was worth it.
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I got to see get doers thing when it's capable of,
which was really dope. Seymour was in there. Mem I'm
always like, let's do less. Is a lot, there's a lot,
you know, but they're just I was like, all right, cool,
let's do it. And the outcome became the space that
that you came to.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, you know, oh man, that's so beautiful. And I'm
happy that Louise and Organa was able was willing to
do a party with you, because when I came to
them for the first time, I said, hey, I want
to do a party here.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Louis was like, no, but.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Not, it doesn't It was it was it was like, hey,
you know what before you do that? Like not, because
I dug your vibe and I know how it gets.
It's really easy to think you could throw a play
party and not think about the safety, not think about
the possible triggering people of the you know. It's just
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it's a very dangerous thing, you know. So I was like,
you know, you seem like a good brother. If you're
serious about it, you know, start building your own little community,
start getting the says the Bouyon, get the Bouyon together,
and then come back in.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Because thing about it is for me, it's very important.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Whoever's in our space, like has to be safe, has
to be top notch, because something bad happens in our space.
Even if it's not us and it's evental, it still
blows back on us, you know. And I'd rather pass
on money then get money. That's funny, funny money, funny money.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And that is one of the reasons why I trusted
you even more with this space, because I care about
people and to see someone else go, hey, let's do
this the right way, or like let's put you through
the ringer with some other parties, just to make sure
that not only you're doing it the right way, but
the people that are coming to your space are experiencing
the right type of experience. And from that moment I
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started to realize how I can play a part in
like the play party space with feeling like I can
be a bridge right too people that aren't really in
the space and that have the proper type of interest
and the proper type of intention, and then bringing them
in like and saying like, hey, you know, as black
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and round people, it's not really advertised to us, so
we don't really know what directions to go even if we.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Have an interest or curiosity.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
So when it goes through podcasting where it could like
blast out to such a range of people and they
can come and say, hey, I'm interested, and then, which
is something I wasn't keen on before, there's the whole
vetting form process and putting them through and getting that
kind of information to know from them before we even
like amass them in a certain place. I've learned so
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much just from like that one moment and from moments
I've had with you, which is why I say all
three of y'all are my.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Like one mentor.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's really about safety, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
And I have to say, from a dude's perspective, Mike,
what I thought as being safe and unsafe was changed
radically because of Morgana's presence, because it's a woman's perspective.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
They view the world differently, they experienced it differently, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
And as we met more beautiful black queer people and
transgender people, even more perspectives of what safety is and
what could trigger. So it's like a constant evolving thing,
like we deserve better, We deserve to center our joy
and our pleasure and ourselves in a space that is safe.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
And I think I think, no matter what it is,
no matter what it is, whatever kind of party it is,
it was a regular party, Like just be safe, you
know what I'm saying, Like I'm not trying to go
on to play party and get patted down, Like what
it's like going to a brunch of getting padded down?
And I've walked into play parties? Are you about to
pat me down? Like what the fuck kind of what
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are you doing? You know, that's not there a bucket
for the guns, you know what I'm saying, take a ticket,
Like no.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So what kind of uh uh uh? Just the word
I'm looking for. I feel like a bridge. How how
do you feel, SUSI a lands in like the play
party space or just like the lifestyle space at that
Like what do you offer to everyone? Because I have
something that I assume that y'all offer, But I'm gonna
let youall answer first.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
First is community and was always community, and it grew,
you know, organically. We weren't planning on you know, blowing up,
so to speak, organically growing and just connecting with people
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and from there just enjoying and building connections and meeting
their families and being like, okay, we can you know,
like go to a show and like have a good
vanilla time and then after that just some adult time
just beautiful, you know. And at every you know, like stage,
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we're like, okay, we can. I think we can, you know,
like do this. And a long time we went just
word of mouth, so it wasn't advertised anywhere, just us
meeting people, our friends bringing their friends and that was it.
And you know, two years ago we started like okay,
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we feel like we're ready to you know, to grow
the foundation is already yeah, yeah, and as strong.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I would say the word amount is still happening too,
because I was working with Live Show for Good Moms
and the audio guy right next to me were just
chatting it up. He's asking, what are you guys doing?
After I was like, we're going to go to a
play party after this, he was like, oh, man, yeah,
I keep hearing about these things.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I heard about this one group that that does them.
I think their name is Susia And I was like,
that's super fun. So I saw I sent him like
the vetting form. He was like, you know, even if
I don't come, will I'll be known to other events.
I was like, you just fell out the vting form.
We'll have your email down, 't worry about it. So yeah,
the word amounth is still wording strong.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I think it's what's important. It's key m hm. I know,
like the amount of work put into it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
It's a lot like the ship is like nearing social
work almost sometimes, because I remember when Echo brought up
some of the workshops that we started with.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
There was an immen's chap.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
There was some transphobic language going on, and the dudes
in the chat police themselves really quick. They were like, yo,
that's kind of violent, and then Gecko was like, yo,
we should do a workshop around that. Who was it
who did the workshop?
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Baron Fife.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, And it was just around like identifying toxic masculinity
in the black and brown play space. And then from
there kind that kind of touch, We're like, okay, let's
at doing workshops and we're doing game nights and just
like it was dope, but you know, it was like
it's a lot of work. There's a lot of work
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and we live in the space.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
That's that is the hard part, like living in the
space and facilitating so much room for community and you know,
so you know, like that that year particularly, you know,
we'd have a meet you know, like our game night,
which was you know, to put you on game and
like we'd have a workshop and then we'd have like
board games and stuff and you know, like you get
to know people in that kind of like somewhat competitive space.
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I can't even say somewhat about games like you know,
in space like you to.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Feel like.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
But you know, we could have like you know, a
rental on Friday, you know, our play party on Saturday,
and then a dance party on Sunday, which is what
we were using to kind of like vet new people
that were coming in as we were growing. And that's
a lot of space to hold for people. And then
you know, sometimes people are more curious to have questions.
So throughout the rest of the week, you know, I
would say, you know, mostly these two because I'm not
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really the most social person, you know that like they had,
but I acknowledge it. You know, like they're handing, you know,
they're handling like you know, people's questions and like sometimes
people just like want to get something off their chests,
and it's like hours of your life sometimes you know,
to make space to make someone feel comfortable and you know,
not just welcome, but like a part of community.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
And you know, you you you.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Are coming into a space and it's just like you're
not just a ticket buyer. You know, you're coming into
something that like you want to be a part of.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
M M M.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That is a difference between y'all and a lot of spaces.
And I used to always wonder, like how the fuck
did they get so much people to trust them? But
I realized that you y'all go the extra step, right,
Like it's not just we're throwing sex parties, which y'all
have also changed my language, Like I barely say sex
parties when it comes to y'all or it comes to us,
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because it's really a play party, because the best part
of these events are not the sex part it's actually
that it's a great fucking party.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
It's a really good party.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And I really have to tell people like, oh, so
people are you're going to fucking I'm like, no, it's
actually a really good party. Like we don't even have
table service and bottle service. Wish we should, we really
start talking about but we don't have tables and bottle service.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
We have VIPs.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But we brought brought back the dancing aspect to parties,
the vibe aspect of parties, the the the like the
additions and having like the king spaces and stuff like
that to like elevate like that type of experience, so
people aren't just walking in and going all right, gotta
talk to somebody. The fuck I need to talk to
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somebody and then sex. That's the only thing I can
do here. So it takes a lot. They were definitely
like this last party I came from from the bar.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
ASSUSI at USP brick shout out Plug Franklin in Union
Crown Heights. I came from from my bar into the
space and get goes building the confession stall right and
it's this motherfucker right here. These two will be like,
you know, you know what, it's the night before, let's
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do some let's do some wild ship that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Would take a regular person a week to do.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
So I walk, I just hear the zoo and I'm
just like, coming off work, I'm like, oh, he's building
a falling the space.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
But I know geck, I know them. I know they're
gonna get it together.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
So it's like coming off that and then switching over
to the party energy and then the guardians shout out
to all the guardians who come in and and volunteer
and and and just hold space for people.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
They came in the music started.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
People were a little you know, apprehensive at first, and
that should melted away because I think the most important
thing a lot of people don't get is that we're
in a space where the pretense is taken out.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah yeah, there's like no like we know, we know
why we're here.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You know, I'm not saying that's the goal, but you know,
it was trying to get a little signed you know,
experienced little sien.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
So so that's taken out the picture.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You don't have to game anybody, you don't have to
come with like a slick line and it's like, hey, well,
how you doing. You know, And because we do, we
have evolved from like you know, a chill sex party
to a play party into a space where like sex
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and politics intersect. You know what I'm saying, because we're
talking about consent. We're talking about these things and they
tied directly to things that are going on around the world.
You know what I'm saying, We're talking about body autonomy.
There are people on the other side of the world
who don't have any body autonomy, don't have any consent
about what's going on in their lives. So, you know,
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we're contributing a portion of money to places like Heal Palestine,
the Shout Out and Children's Palestinian really fun. So these
things are there. It's interconnected. I'll hear conversations. I'll literally
see someone get in head over here, someone having a
conversation about like some political shit, and then someone over
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there talking about I don't know, like took too many
dick pills and some ship.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So it's just like you get this this vast like
array of conversations all within the earshot, you know. So
it's I think that's really what what separates us from
other places because it's it's it's like it's not just
here's the space, give me your money, and I'm gonna
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be like this just the cool dude, you know what
I'm saying. Like that that there, I mean, you know whatever,
Susi has dope.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So yeah, I put I put my whole name on
that ship.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I put her name, his name on that ship, like
eyes closed, like we're gonna keep doing the work.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
We're gonna keep pushing it, doing more creative ship.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Like like, son, didn't you guys turn the inside the
house into a circus tent?
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Remember my lard everywhere?
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Like this was a fucking circus tent in the basement
and me and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Like, wild, this is so much, you know what I'm saying.
And other times morgana under though.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
She she made like a thousand little paper plate jellyfish filters,
coffee filtered jellyfish hitting from the ceiling, and we had
lights and water lights and I was like, again, like,
why are y'all doing this?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
When I saw that the result, I was like, you.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Need dreamers, man.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Funny enough, the next week was the Huge Flood.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh man huge.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I will say that this space is definitely helpful not
only for like individuals, but definitely also for couples. Because
the party that we had, which was to play party
after party for a Good Month's.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Live show tour, it was certain something came up.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That that would come up like in a relationship. So
for me specifically, uh, someone had offered meal drugs, very
safe legal drugs in the United States, right, and she
was just like, you know what, give me one second,
let me find out where my boyfriend is.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Just so happened the same person also.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Offered me drugs, very safe legal drugs in the United States,
and I was like, give me one second. And so
before when we were just like individuals and when we
were single, we'd be like, oh, hey.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Fun drugs. I know you you're cool, Like, let's go
into it.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
But now that we have like we're together and the
consideration of the other person will let them know like, hey,
this is about to happen. Just giving you like the
heads up and like and just getting the confirmation from
the other person that cares about you, like all right, cool,
thank you for letting me know. And then another point
I was I saw a friend of ours at least
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shout out to her. She had some Wartenberg wheels and
some blades and some claws and stuff like that, And
so I ended up getting tied up.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
He was like like, hey, my man was like, what naked?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Like this guy? So I got who's sitting?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So as I was there and I was laying there
getting tied up and like claude and like knives just
running over my body. Like I looked at the right
and Mila is naked, and like some other guy is
naked and they're just like dancing. He's like dancing regular
to the music. And I'm laying there like this is
one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had, like
seeing it all encompassing, like coming together and then being
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able to share this experience with.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
My own partner.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
When I got home that night, when I tell you,
I bust her ass in that bedroom, Oh bab I
was so fucking sexually charged up. And then I'm laying
and then we finished, we finished having sex and I'm
laying there in her ears because I'm on a very
legal drug in the United States.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I'm in here. You're like, I just want to let
you know I love you.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
I love you, and I love our family.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I love you. I see how your friends protect you.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
We really have a great drive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This is great sea, That's what.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
I think one thing that you touched on and I
want to point out is you being able to watch
your lady dance with someone naked. That speaks volumes on
the work you've done around male ownership. You know what
I'm saying, which is a huge thing. It's it's like,
you know, and I'm sinking from Math's perspective, you know, obviously,
(29:37):
it's this thing that we have where we're like this
where like everything and even couples like when you stop
trying to be the center of someone else's life and
you're just like, look like, we don't. We don't have
to be up each other's ass all the time. We
don't have to to like my all, my joy or
(30:00):
every last good feeling I have shouldn't come from you.
It's a lot, it's a lot of responsibility, and if
you drop the ball once you know what I'm saying,
it's like the fuck you know you're so I think
that is a thing that I really I learned on
my journey, you know, just just letting go because the
person is going to be there. Yeah, and you're like,
(30:23):
I've been holding onto this person, but they're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So am I holding onto them? You know?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And it's just like a relief, you know. And for
single people coming in and we have a lot of
sisters that come by themselves and that told me something too,
And just in conversations with them, realizing that you know,
some of them, a lot of them on their own journey.
A lot of them are actively like trying to heal
(30:49):
from sexual trauma or connect with their bodies, or some
people have social anxiety.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I met.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I met this one real interesting woman who's like, you know,
I suffer from extreme social anxiety.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And she's standing telling me the naked.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Right and I'm like, all right, She's like, but but
something about this space makes me feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I could see it in her a little once. I
saw it in her, and I was like.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
This is you're really fucking brave, Like you're coming out
here on your own from I think like Connecticut or
some shit, you know, and you're being you, You're glowing,
you know, you're challenging yourself. So I think a lot
of people don't realize what a healing space it is
because we do offer like the impact stations, the sensory stations,
(31:37):
the music, the dancing, the camaraderie, the community, the blackness,
you know. And one thing people don't get is like
we are focused on on bipoc black folks, but you know,
white people are definitely allowed to come in. They just
can't bring their whiteness with them. You know, there is
no space in our community for whiteness. As as as
(32:01):
as this thing that was created to counter us.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, you're just coming to be a human. It's a
real human experience. Yeah, they're just coming in, chill, coming
in dance, you know, like that's that's the whole thing.
Get a little Sussia.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
So one of the things that stand out about your
party is not only is it an amazing party, but
it's a very safe space right where that gets thrown
thrown around a million fucking times, but you really do
the work to make sure it feels safe. One of
the things that I've learned from you and I love
so much and everybody loves is this motherfucking consent speech?
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Was that always a thing or did it come up
like as time went on and you realize that it's
very helpful, was it?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
I mean we did it at our first one.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
You did the first one. Yeah, started from the first one.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Yeah, because when we're doing our department, we knew everybody.
But even in that situation, it still should be because
you just never know, you know.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I remember before before we moved into the space, our
consent speech was the consent speech first, and then we
would go around in circle. Everybody would get to introduce
themselves and you know, say what they want from the
night or what intent what their intentions, and just you know,
(33:34):
you would be like, oh, this is this is what
she wants, So I gotcha, I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Think is which I think is is great and just
when but it got too big, it just ends up
just gonna take like an hour.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Giving it almost like a church vibe helps you know,
you're talking to people, not at them, You're connect thing
with them, You're not lecturing them.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You know, you're not reading off of a paper.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
You're just again connecting with humans and letting them know
when everyone is there, and it's like, but also the
work has been there's steps to that. There's like the
vedding form, there's individual conversations, there's the meet and greet beforehand.
There's you know, the three of us walking around talking
to people. You know, there's our community members, the ogs
(34:29):
who've been there forever talking to people. So yeah, the
guardians now the guardians, man, I love my love. There
were some birthdays we didn't realize it was a Sir
Nick shout out to Sir Nick, Diamond Avida Fernando Avita
(34:51):
Sawyer's managed them. Yeah, but you know, we brought a
little birthday cake out, did the birthday thing, and it's
just like that's.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think that's what you're supposed to do, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Like I think another thing that separates us from other
houses is that it's not an old to our egos
mm hmm. It's not like we didn't create something so
we could be the cool kids in high school, like,
you know, just trying to trying to work through our
trauma and the worst way possible.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, Rona asked people like, you know, what was I
going to say? The safety has been very important. I've
loved it so much, and oh, yes, someone had recently
asked me the story about safety. Someone had asked me, uh,
(35:48):
what am I about to be? What I'm about to
do on us the night that we threw the party,
and I was like, I'm going to his play party?
And they said that, Oh, did you hear about what
happened in the daily news about Hacienda? And I was like,
what happened there? Was like, you know, there was some
violations and stuff like that over some time, and you know,
and they said, this is just why you gotta worry
about those spaces. And I was like, well, things like
(36:11):
that is the reason why I partner and throw play parties,
because if I don't do it in a trusted space
where I know that I'm going to have the correct intentions,
then you're going to get more of this.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
And so I was.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I was happy and proud to say that because I
know partnering with y'all, like, safety is such a big
thing that.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
We know how to navigate or work through it or
it's not.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I don't truly don't believe something you can control, but
it is something that you know how to go about.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
After it happens.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
So how is it with safety, because I know we
can't always control everybody and everything, but how is it
with all these modalities in place with safety in SUSI.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
I see, we make sure that.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
If anything happens consent violations, we're there. We're talking to
both parts. We want to make sure that we have
the whole story. We make a board, we consult with everybody.
We want to make sure that they're you know, they
have they go through justice events. If that work would work,
(37:28):
if it's asked for you right, If not, they get
they get banned or they get temporarily banned or forever
it happened.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
M Yeah, let's think about it. It's like, as safe
as we are, it's never nothing as one hundred percent safe.
There's always going to be something. There's always gonna and
and people don't get like it's not a consent violation,
is just someone grabbing your ass and you ask for it.
There's little things that fuck with you. The hand of
(38:01):
the small of the back when you're walking by and
someone touches you and you're like, I didn't ask to
be touched, and then you're left with that, you.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Know, and who knows what kind of things you struggled with.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
In your prior day or in your life where it's
just like I'm being touched again. I didn't ask for
it and I'm here. So things things like that. You know,
we've kicked people out for doing that, like you we
just saw you walk by two or three people and
great or graze. Yeah, you know, like no, you gotta
(38:33):
go like this is not it. And I'll you know,
we've we've kicked out friends, like people who feel like
now like it's not sorry, you got to go like
this is especially you.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Bro, I know if it feels weird, right, I know, that's.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
You know, it's also very important to make the distinction
between a trigger and a challenge. In these spaces, it's
something that is triggering and I cannot get over it,
or it's something that is challenging me and that I
can learn from it and heal. So we you know,
(39:16):
there's there's groundbreaking moments.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's it's it's it's constant reassessment.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
You know, recently, in you know, in a couple of
the consent speeches that I heard Lewis give kind of
started to shift from using the term safe space to
brave space because it does take courage to walk into
these spaces and you know, facing this, this discomfort that
I'm feeling, you know, like doesn't necessarily warrant like some
(39:50):
other person's cancelation in the community because you know, they
ask you a question, you know, and those those kind
of conversations, know, and that distinction is really important.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, I wanted to ask because we're talking about everybody
else and Susia and how it makes them feel.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
But how does what does Sussia y C. Do for y'all?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Like just seeing this and being the host and being
able to put this on for people and seeing the
result of the safety, the fun, the community, Like what
does it do for y'all individually?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
You know, my my background prior to to holding this
space is I had run several different kinds of different
nightlife spaces and you know, I was doing a Latin
rave for that community and playing Afro Latin music and
you know, to shift into holding you know, something more
(40:47):
sensual but still with the intention of you know, it
being a bipod centered space, you know, felt equally important
and you know, coming like you know, I started right
around the time of the Me Too movement, like where
I started taking interest and exploring this world. It seemed
really really urgent to me to kind of like heal.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
What felt like a riff.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Between the masculine and the feminine and you know, shouts
to all my two spirit alphabet people. But yeah, that's
creating spaces to have unique experiences. It's like for me,
I'm a person that like, if I want to go
pay cover to hear a DJ play, I want to
(41:32):
hear things that I've never heard. If it sounds just
like hot ninety seven on the taxi right there, I'm
at the wrong place.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
That's not what I paid to go see.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
And so if I want to go have an experience,
I want the music to be dope. I want the lighting,
the sound, the performance, everything to be really like, wow,
that was an amazing night. That was worth the investment
of my time and energy and money or whatever. But
like you know, walking away from that was a fantastic night.
I love creating experiences like that. So that's that's what
(42:02):
I get back from it.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Nice I get. I get healing, I get community, I
get I get to be creative, and I love that connection.
I get to be a part of this wonderful organization
(42:25):
that not only just creates a brave space for people
too to enjoy two meet people and so on.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I think.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
A couple of things in a cool way. I get
my performance not off because I came up performing and
community building, so it's like a.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Way into that.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
I like, I like seeing people happy, and then it
kind of evolved into like I like seeing people having breakthroughs. Yeah,
like that for me is like super dope like that
that's like okay cool, Like like you you you push
through something or you were in a space where you
(43:21):
could get out of what you were in.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, you know, I like that.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I love that, I would say, for me, makes you
feel empowered. That brave space, then she said, is really
like on point because further than it being in say space,
it really is empowering to know that I have the
power to speak up to say something and that I
(43:47):
have people that are going to back me. And then
that's I think that's a lot of things. That's something
that really is on the mind of possibly like women
when they come into a spaces like even if I
say something or I have the power of bravery to
say something, will I have the execution after it?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Right?
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Like what will will somebody listen to me with somebody
like actually act on what I'm saying and believe me.
And so I feel empowered in the space just knowing
that it's so safe that I can say something that
is so comfortable that I can speak on the things
that I want, and just seeing everybody's so happy and
free really like charges me up and like empowers me.
(44:24):
And then I just go home and fuck the shit
out of me.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Look, that's beautiful. And to say you know, and to
say no.
Speaker 8 (44:31):
And like the the space to be able to accept
the no, yeah, accept rejection, work through all that.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful. All right, beautiful people? Can we give
an outro? Right?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Where where can the people find SUSSI NYC y'all individually?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yeah, as a collective y'all, as a party.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Y'all is fun, y'all is safe and bravery or can
where can the people find y'all in the vials collective?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
You can find us at SUSSI A n y C
on I G.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
I also want to point out that ORGANA is also
running SUSI I fem mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
And then in tandem with.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Max and Ashley, Uh, there's a new there's a SUSI
a queer, which is which is dope?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I guess based on the last party, No.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Sis hetero dudes allowed, So get going on how to
go sit in this dude's van and just watched like
fucking what was that gaya the aliens.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Like six hours aliens they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
It's cool, but that's the thing about holding space, like
we're not needed and if you know, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's like whatever, we're going through a straight man play party.
It's only straight men.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
That was brought up, that was brought up in the chat.
It was like, all right, I mean cool, but we
but we do have guys nights.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, yeah, we'll go out. You know, well the guys
knights are always I love being to my brothers, but
the setup is a little uderwhelming.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
So we'll get there and it's like the ladies night
there charcot treeboards out grapes, like all this beautiful ship
and we get to the guys night.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I'm like, y'all, y'all literally have a hold of chips chips,
but there's still some hot tacky.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
What we gotta do is the same thing that the
women and the queers do to us. You got to
have them set up and then kick them out.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
I can't be here.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's a straight party.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
We be here, be We're devolved, just all of us
right here. It's gonna smell funny when you get back
my feet.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, there's also.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
N y.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
So I've been tabling with a kind of like a
sex and Spanish you know and Spanglish kind kind of
vibe and lets me play boletos and you know, get
get romantic in that Latin lovel kind of way.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
And that's that's that's a joy for for for me
and for.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Us because it lets me touch musically into like what
what my background is. It's just you know, like my
brain works in two different languages, and you know, like
being able to kind of flex it on that side
is nice.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh wait. Also Lucia, Borkana and Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
We're starting a project out there, and May eighteenth is
going to be our first meet up dance party to
prepare for late fall. We're going to have an actual
play retreat out there. We're bringing people out from here
to mesh with the folks that are down there because
(48:07):
I know a lot a lot of play parties that
are traveling will just.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Go to resort, right and just stay there.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Like now, we're here with the people, and it's gonna
it's gonna be some serious vetting. Definitely understand that we're
not going to a resort. We're gonna be around real people.
We're gonna learn about the history of the place. We're
gonna have entertainment that is indigenous to that space. I
(48:33):
don't ask for burgers and ship.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I don't do that. Don't ask for R and B
because it's.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Gonna we we we we were going straight Bodiquas style
for that. And then we're hoping to go to different places,
you know, just wherever there is a black community or
of the diaspora, you know, we're gonna go there and
you know, build with social workers, build with social activists,
(48:58):
build with community or going as I always always with
the queer population.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
They just always seem to be ready for this event.
It's a head of rowse suck it up, so exactly.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
You got to get better head of rows.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Wow, it was so good to interview you.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh and I love partnering with y'all fellas, y'all are amazing.
But working with morgana behind the scenes is top not
we are on point.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, I'm just like, oh my god. So sometimes I
feel utterly useless. I don't know where anything is that
I don't ask morg.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (49:48):
But but working with all of y'all and seeing y'all
the tribute uh different things to like this space and
like I said, being a mentor to me, it's it's
it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I love y'all.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Y'all are amazing man, and thank you and yeah, thank you, Bro.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I love you, Bro.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
I try my best.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, it's a pleasure to do all these things with
y'all and hopefully I could become the second unicorantye y'all alongside.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Guy Yes seven La, yes, oh yeah, good this comes out.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Twenty seven would be long passed by the time this
comes out. But we will have play parties after this
episode is out, So please quarterly quarterly it's coming, La.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
We taken over. But subscribe to to us.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
This is lips to lifestyle conversations about the lifestyle from
people in the lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
So subscribe to us. Listen to us.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
You'll know more about parties, more about events, more about us.
Another great amazing people. I am Orlando AKA Orlando a
K the Big Day, Babbite. I really have the greatest
AKA in the world, and thank y'all for listening.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
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