July 22, 2025 • 54 mins
Your favorite Lovers are taking a break from a very busy summer. But please enjoy this re-release from our special bonus pod Lips To Lifestyle.
Top organizers behind inclusive sexuality events Good Moms Bad Choices and Sucia gathered for an explosive conversation. They reflected on their groundbreaking collaboration in LA, praising the "container of energetic medicine" that allowed attendees to feel empowered, healed, and seen. They got real about navigating relationships, gender, and parenting within alternative communities.
Social:@Milah_Mapp @Wh_orlandoroye @Sucianyc @goodmoms_badchoices
Watch here: Youtube
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Top organizers behind inclusive sexuality events Good Moms Bad Choices and Sucia gathered for an explosive conversation. They reflected on their groundbreaking collaboration in LA, praising the "container of energetic medicine" that allowed attendees to feel empowered, healed, and seen. They got real about navigating relationships, gender, and parenting within alternative communities.
Social:@Milah_Mapp @Wh_orlandoroye @Sucianyc @goodmoms_badchoices
Watch here: Youtube
Patreon: Patreon.com/LoveLikeThis
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Allah like this.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Mm hmmm. Hello and welcome everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Welcome the Lifts to Lifestyle conversations about the lifestyle from
the Lifestyle. I am your handsomely beautiful host Orlando Roy
aka Orlando AKA the Big dig Bad Bitch. And aside
from me is another handsome person, another handsome human.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Go ahead, introduce to yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What beautiful people? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Is Brooklyn Lou aka a well known tone represents assosiate
NYC hanging out here with some gorgeous, gorgeous humans.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So proud and so happy and honest.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome, Welcome, Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Hi, happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm so happy to have y'all here as well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This is probably the most easiest guest appearance I've ever
had to ask for, and I'm happy we could do it.
We are here because we want to talk about the
play space with y'all and how partnering with y'all in
l was such a success and such a happy, beautiful moment,
and just wants to know how y'all feel about it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
About Hi, I am Mila for the namesake of voices
were how is the play party in LA? It was
phenomenal we had a really good time. It was the
first time I've been to a space like that in
LA with as many beautiful black and brown people in
the pleasure space, so it brought very much a lot
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of joy to my heart.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
I enjoyed it, of course, I always love every Soussi
event I've ever been to.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I've just been just really floored.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
I just the space and the energy that's created that
Luis has been able to curate, and I feel like
traveling over to LA, the vibe was still intact. I
loved the theme Afrofuturism, women men. We all participated, which
I felt like really brought an element of lay, even
(02:00):
more play playfulness to the space, and it was just
so beautiful to see everyone's rendition of what that means
to them, what a future ad for futurism means, and
for me, I was so excited. I'm a I'm a
theme ass bitch. So you give me a theme and
it's not Halloween, I'm happy.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I Mean, I love Halloween.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Too, but if we're doing it outside of that, I'm
even more happy because I love putting looks together. So
I think it just created the space of just people
feeling really even more comfortable playing because that they were
almost like four playing themselves at the house, just like
getting ready adorning themselves. So I really I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It was super exciting for me, especially being able to
work with you too, you know, as a parent, you know,
just trying to balance trying to balance your role as
a parent, as a human, as a spiritual person, as
a sexual being. Being able to work with power houses
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like you in a space like you and the vibe
you guys brought out and the crowd, it was. It
was really something special and I'm really excited to see
what's gonna happen on the next one. Last night was crazy.
Last night was crazy, Like I was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I was.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I was walking around looking around this one over here
is just Erica is doing her sexy like ooh, and
Amila and Emila is there doing her little sexy thing,
and you're getting all tied up.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was, it was, it was. It was a great night.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Seeing the Impact station the dancing, that to me was
really was really key, just seeing people dance, seeing people move,
seeing people get that energy out of them and then
make room for good energy coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Like that was. That was definitely something beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I've asked this question before. I want to know what
y'all thought. But what is like sex parties do for y'all?
I just give you an example me and Louise I
had asked him before and we were talking about this now.
I was saying that it's empowering just the safety of
a space, to being powered to feel safe and be
able to like ask for what you want but also
say no in spaces. But the energy and the sexual
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energy is like really charges me up. And the sex
that I have after a play party is one of
the best experiences, like not at the player but afterwards
with my girlfriend. It's fire. So it's like very empowering
for me. What does a play party do for y'all?
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I feel like it's like a container of like energetic medicine.
You can step into a place and like become recharged.
But also there is a I feel like when people
come into a space and everyone agrees to be open,
and everyone agrees to be respectful and everyone agrees to
be free, there is like a medicinal exchange that happens,
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And I always like, I'm grateful that we get to
be in this space with Sousia, and especially because it's
for us. We've been talking about our journey to freedom
for six years with our community and so it's like
a long term for play to finally get to the place.
I think a lot of people talk about shit, but
no one has the opportunity to indulge and experience it.
(05:13):
And I'm like, I feel super proud that you've given
us the confidence to step into this space and to
include our community in this way, because I talked to
a lot of people the other night, and there are
people who are there alone, women who are there alone,
women who are there for the first time. I just
got a text from someone like I had my first threesome.
It was great, you know. And to be able to
be like a facilitate, a facilitator to create this space
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is super special. And I think that like the best
example I can give is, like, you know, when you
go to a like a music festival, and most people
are like hi and happy, and you're just welcoming to
strangers and you're hugging strangers and people are helping each
other out because there's just like a primary uh, like
everybody's there for one thing, right, the exchange of music,
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the energetic exchange of like openness, like no one's there
on math because we're going to go party and in
like be in community. And I think the sex party
is the same thing in a smaller space because it's
not necessarily about just sex, but it's about freedom to explore. Yes,
this freedom to explore knows and like you said in
the consent speech, which I thought was super important, and
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your consents speech is always the bomb, but that black
people haven't had agency over their bodies until recently. So
it's a very sensitive space. But it's also just sacred
to be able to indulge in that together as a community.
And so I just feel like it's medicine.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I would say confidence is one of the things that
this space has given.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Me, just confidence in just being my wildest self.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Like it creates this, like she said, a container of
this this energy that has allowed me to be a
performer if I feel like it, I can. Like you said,
I remember there was a moment for the DJ BO
I was like, am I'm a fucking.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Burlesque dancer, BITCHU. I was like, I didn't know, but
here I am.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
And it just gives me a confidence to just explore
maybe parts of myself that maybe I've only given myself
permission to explore alone in my room. And also just
like I was in the middle of the floor dancing
and doing my thing and no one interrupted me. No
one came and tried to like take me out of it,
try to impose their whatever they wanted to do and
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participate with me. And I was in my own little
bubble world, and I needed that moment, and I needed
the energy around me as well to support it.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
There was only so much sex dancing.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I think I could do a loan in my room,
Like there really is that supportive energy around and then
also like being really able to explore what it like
my yeses and my nose and my interests. I mean,
I always talk about Susia's the educational factor that Susia
facilitates in the space and the actives from these professional
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people that have cultivated these practices for themselves and for
other people. And so even me, like the other night,
like I'm not really into spanking in my like regular life,
Like it hurts me. It's just like not my thing,
even though like I am submissive sexually, it's just not
my thing, or so I thought it wasn't my thing.
So then I was talking to someone and I was saying,
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it's just not my thing, and they're like, well, I
just got spanked over there by that by that person
over there, and they really changed my mind. And I
was like, okay, well let me go try fine, let
me go try. Maybe I've just been spanked bare hand
too much and it just wasn't right. And so I
did and he was so he was so attentive. He
asked me so many questions before we even began that
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I never even thought to be to ask, and like,
how would you like after car after that, like, so
this is what I'm going to do?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Is that okay with you?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
And when I experienced it, I realized like, yeah, there,
I had only been experiencing one type of form of
play in this space, and being able to experience it
with someone who is well versed in it really changed
my perspective and made me excited to bring that play
home to my partner.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
So I think that it has been expansive for me
personally and within the realms of my relationships.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It's dope. Yeah, it's interesting because I think it challenges
what we view sex to be sex for me. Sensuality
for me is everything, you know, from walking into the space,
talking to people, reading the room, seeing the stations, seeing
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the smiling faces. And I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed
the fact that people did give you guys your space.
That was I was a little concerned about that, you know,
because you guys have to come down right after the show.
You're kind of like a drop, you know what I'm saying.
So being able to experience that have it without being bothered,
I think, is dope.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know. I don't know, man, I'm I'm I'm I'm
just I was really, really really hype off that show,
you know. I was like, this is this is some
good ship, this is like, this is it?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is it speaking about being hype of shit?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And one of the things that was a shock to
me and I didn't seem coming, but I love the.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The introduction of it was.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I came up with a god goddess room, which
is one of my favorite fucking ideas because if you
have a bunch of women in a room just like
being pleased, like what else could you ask for at
a play party?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But I'll let y'all tell it. What was with this
goddess from like activation.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
When we forgot to tell people this other day, which
was disappointing, I was too busy getting soup. But when
we did do it in La and I want to
do it again, I had this brilliant idea.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Me and Eric I always talk about like goddess.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Experiences and being served by the masculine, just being served
in general, even by the feminine.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
I think women are not.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Really used to being served like they should be, and
we're often used to giving and feel like our worth
is tied to our giving, especially in sexual spaces. And
so it's like a kind of a reclamation of becoming
comfortable with being served and being goddesses and like kind
of taking back a rightful place like Mufassa.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
But I felt like.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Just the experiences that me and my friend have been
able to cultivate because we're innovative and we are we've
been really well seasoned into asking for what we want,
kind of asking our tribe to being able to indulge
in that. And even at the retreats, this is like
a part of that is like serving women. We go
there to serve the women that come, because I think
women are not even used to being served by other
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women platonically in an intimate space, you know. And I
think having the space to just be like, yeah, come
sit down in this non sex room and feed the
women fruits is something very basic and simple, but it
kind of repairs a relationship between men and women that
especially Black men and women, that I don't think we've
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had the tools or the opportunity to be able to
non sexually.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Heal exchange, having exchange with one another.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
That's platonic but intimate and romantic in ways, but there's
no expectation of anything unless you so choose to in
a different room. So that was kind of the idea
behind that, And you know, I was surprised even in
LA like a lot of women came up.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I think it's dope.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Allowing yourself the space for people to do things for you.
I think it's really dope. And I think one thing
I've noticed, especially for moms, you know, I think you
guys spoken about it, is like you guys are always last.
And even in my family, when I talked to the elders,
the old ideas and stuff and simple question like what
makes you happy? And the response is if my kids
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and my husband are happy, you know, and to get
to that point in your life where you're telling yourself
that you know in your seventies and shit, and it's
it's crazy, you know, because it hasn't been challenged. So
I think it's dope that you guys challenge that at
this young stage of your life where it's like, no,
what makes me happy is a plethora of things. Is
not just tied to the person I'm with or the
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person that came out of me. You know, you're your
own individual and to create that space is dope, Like
let people do things for you, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
And you'd be so surprised by that, like sentence alone
being extremely triggering to people. When people when we talk
about like being happy as moms and women, it's like.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Selfish.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I've literally hollerd niggas be like that's crazy. You're not
supposed to be happy.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
You're not always going.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
To be happy.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
You're not always going to be happy. You have to
sacrifice because you're a mom. You're a mom, Like, what
do you it's not about your happiness. We made this
choice and that's like the biggest crock of shit ever.
And it's like it's been like a long term campaign
on women fucking being at the bottom of the totem
pole while we give nothing, we have nothing left to give,
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And then it creates poison in our in our family structures,
and then we don't realize why. It's because we've literally
been given this narrative that we are supposed to be
self sacrificing or else we're not doing a good job.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, I would say it creates also jealousy within within
other women and moms too, because you might see another
mom and you think, oh my god, look she's got
it all together. I mean, me and Mila talk about
how we met and we and we placed judgment on
one another just based off of perception of Instagram, you know.
And so when you create a space of like evenness,
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which I think that room that we have the goddess experience,
and it creates a space like everyone that enters this
room is a goddess.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
It doesn't matter if you are a mom of ten
or never had a child in your whole life. When
you walk into this room, you deserve respect and you
deserve to be cared for. And even the other day
at the at at Susia, I told someone was like
I would I really want to come to one of
your retreats. And I said to her, I would love
to take care of you, and she just started crying
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and she's like, I've never heard a woman say that
to me, like you want to take.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Care of me?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And I was like, yes, I do.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
And so that even that God has experienced, I think
that the platonicness of it is so important for women
to be able to take care of one another in
that space. And it's as simple as putting a fucking
pineapple in a bitch's mouth, you know, for her to
be like oh wow, like thank you, and then someone
say like, how does that taste? Does that taste good?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Would you like more? Which one would you like me
to choose for you? This one perfect? Okay? Does that
taste good? You want something different? No problem? You know,
Like just the simple interaction of just asking sking how
you're doing and how you're feeling and being a part
of the supporting her pleasure is healing. And I loved
that room. I love that there was a room at
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the party that there was no sex allowed, because I
think too when sometimes people come to the space and
people have asked us about the space, they're like so
everyone's just fucking everywhere, Like what is it?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Like?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
It's like is it overwhelming? Like especially for people that
have never been to that space, they're just wondering that
They're like, are like is are my boundaries going to
be crossed at every moment?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Am I going to have to witness someone having sex?
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I don't feel like watching?
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Like you know, like there's all these misconceptions and and
that's why that's why I've always loved the spaces that
you've created the least, because there is it's just a
beautiful flow and people just kind of know where to
be and it's ultimately like a beautiful, like the best
party I've ever been to.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
It's like you can dance, you can drink, you don't,
you can you can chill on the couch and meet
a new friend and like there's no pressure to do anything.
But sexual energy is so charged. It's so healing that
just being in that space inevitably you let your guard down,
even if you choose not to play. There's there's like
an unmasking that happens no matter what, and you leave change,
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you leave with a different perspective. And it's been such
a beautiful process. To watch the women specifically transform from
that from that experience.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's awesome. It's really awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What's really funny is I'll bump into people in public
spaces who've been in the party, and I will not
recognize them at all because it's like you're putting.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Armor, the armor back on you.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
You're in the same outfit, you can look.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Different, and this thing about it, like I was, you know,
I've been to some other parties and I'm like, okay,
this is like almost overly curated to the point of
everyone looks the same as opposed to having different body
types and different different you know, shapes and sizes. Because
the beauty of an event like the one that we
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did yesterday is that when everybody feels comfortable, everyone's glowing
and everyone is beautiful. You know, people that normally you
would maybe maybe not have noticed or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And you see them be like, oh shit, you're glowing,
and that to me is like the ship's that's that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We are supporters of the glow confidence.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I really love that you said that,
you know, let me take care of you, and like
how we can support these people, because it really is
not like our job, but something that we take on
with making people feel comfortable. We are all individually curiators
or a vibe right, so together is like really amazing.
I remember the party on Saturday. This girl was saying
that she wanted to mess with this guy, but it's
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kind of like nervous to go into like the whole
straight into the sex thing. And I was like, why
don't you just asks for a hug, like start very tiny,
like come on, do you like hugs? Like give me
a hug? And I was like, see, how did that feel?
She was like that did feel good? Be right back,
and I saw her run right over straight to him
like hey, let's let's let's do a hug right now.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
See and that's play party. Yeah, that's like inner child
coming out, Like what I can do that. I won't
be judged. I won't be like looked that funny. And
about saying about the vibe you guys bring, it's it's different,
it's dope, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I don't know's there's there's there's a boss vibe.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's a really they're a real cool boss, like oh
oh they're here, they're here. And I saw the crowd
kind of like, oh right, all right, they're here, Yeah,
don't don't bother them. I can see people regulating their ship.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
The creatures walking, no, really just here without security.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's like this real cool like feeline sexy energy just coming.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
In and just like floating.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Man, it was dope. It was dope, was dope. I
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But the thing about community and letting people do things
for you is big, you know, just just like for instance,
even when when when Simo got in a car accident
and the community came together to help her, you know, and
she was just like no, no, I was like, let
the community help help and it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Triple her recovery rate. You know what I'm saying, things
like that.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And we've seen some really cool shit in the community,
Like in the seven years six seven years, they're like
three people got married in from the community. Yeah, six
people had kids and they're all still together. You know
what I'm saying, don't take turns coming to the party
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watching the kid, you know, wife comes, dude comes, whatever,
and and it's it's it's some dope ship. And I'm
really I think in La what stuck out to me
a lot was there there was well the guardians were
super dope and I want to shout out Mikaela. Yeah,
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she brought in a different vibe too, and I was like,
this is cool. There's just there's just l a vibe
I really can't put my finger on sometimes a little
different from New York.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And I was like, this is like just nice over there.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Chill, you know, I really and I'm really excited to
see what the second iteration is going to be out
there and and maybe what the theme is.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I feel like this La party was definitely like people
needed to just come out and kind of like see
what was going on, because like, there's been no space
like that I've been to, well have I've been to
like one or two parties in LA and they're not
They've never been good.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
And so I think.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
People who have went to those parties probably have a perception.
They're like, you know, they're like what what so what's
this going to be?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Well? How is this going to be different?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
You know? And I think that that first party was
definitely like an opportunity for people to kind of.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Like come see the vibes, see the scene.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
And I have a feeling that this next party is
going to be even more playful now that people are like, oh, okay,
I see myself there. It's like I see the black
and brown bodies. And that's really important for us because
I know for me, being in a space where I
don't see myself, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
feel watched by fetishized. Yeah, and specifically the men too,
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you know. And so I think I'm really I'm really
excited for LA to be able to experience that type
of play and pleasure in a space where they do
see themselves and they're able to relax into the experience.
I think it's going to offer a lot of healing
for the women and the men and not everyone that
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live in in my city. So I'm really excited to
describe the medicine to my hometown.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I definitely need that comfort because I walk into
a space and I don't see a lot of me,
Especially in a sex space. Everything is like protruding back
into my body. My dick is going into is going in,
but is going to know.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
We're thinking of were throwing out ideas the other day,
get going on and we're like, what will be the
next cool when we do like a I know like
we're thinking just spitballing like what like a like.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
An afro anime.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
All these things like it's l a like like like
like afro Hntaturism.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Was so good.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
It was such a good theme. I'm like, how are
you going to beat that? Because yeah, we are some
dressing up ass bitches. I like to play like in
dress up and it was nice to see other people
indulge and like participate because I don't think as brown
and black people, we get a lot of opportunities to play,
you know sometimes like when life is serious and there's
real shit going on and like we're constantly moving, it's
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like who has time to play? And so it's just
like it's not Halloween and we get to dress up?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yeah, it made you have to take a second out
of your day to really consider how do I want
to show up to this.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And what does that for futurism mean? Like if I
get to play in like you know, play in this space,
what does that look like? And it was really nice
to see the men participated. You know, a man be
acting weird about doing anything outside of this the box.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So it was nice to see them come out.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I'm extremely happy to see how La came out for
that party, because I just this is just my opinion.
I think that people have the right personality, they just
don't have the right structure for things to happen. So
I think if people in LA had like not only
the play parties, like the workshops, the vanilla type of
events where it's just dancing and chill and people come
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and realize, oh, this is what I should be saying,
this is how I should be speaking to people. Because
me and Mili's experienced both of us together doing play parties.
Going to play parties in LA, wasn't that great?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And the people and the.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Thing about it, I realized that the people weren't They
weren't bad people or violating people. But there are just
certain ways to move and go about things that we
just know naturally or we just know that we've learned
throughout being in this space. I remember one time me
and Milo were playing and a guy is he's just voyuring,
but he's not super close, but he's close enough and
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jerking off.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
And it's one thing when you can't see it, but
when it's hitting like more than your peripheral, Like now
you're kind of in like.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
And then you add the stroking y'all are sexy as
fun distracted.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
That reminds me of that Day Chappelle episode when when
Homeboy was in the room with the with the former inmate.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, so there's like, yeah, there's a certain type of
like glaring and gawking that could be alleviated if you
know how to like maneuver in the space and voyeur
more comfortably.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I really think it's about turning down because it's it's
it's humans and penises that do that shit for the
most part, not I mean everybody, but that's for the
most part, And it's just turning down. And it's a
process of like, look, everyone else needs to take up space.
We regularly take up space without even knowing it, you know,
that male privilege. We just we're in it, you know,
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So just being able to just it's like playing in
the band, right, if the drummer's too loud, then no
one else is really going to be hurt that much,
you know what I'm saying. So just turn your shit
down a couple of notches, Let everyone turn up, and
things beautiful things happen, you know, saying great conversations happen,
like breakthroughs happen, all kinds of awesome things, and then
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people feel safer, you know, and that's super important.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And the performances they're great.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, I literally and like I woke up in the
morning from the one here in New York and my
body felt better.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I got readjusted at the party. I got a.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Chiropractic experience, and I was telling my friends, like yes.
She was like, you got a chiropractor experience at the
sex party. I was like, yes, and I feel better today,
like my back had been killing me and she did
her thing on my body. I was like, I love
this space I can get. I can test out why
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I don't like getting spanked and change my mind, and
then I can also get realigned over here.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
And I was like, this is what it's about.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
It's about, like, yeah, it's it's not always what you
think it's going to be, and it really is about
being able to come back in your body, feel safe
in your body, feel good in your body. And it
looks different in every space and every party and every
Sussie party. Don't really always know what you're going to get,
and that's what I love about it too. It's always
kind of like a treat. It's almost like a little surprise,
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little gift that you're going to get when you walk
through that door, Like who's going to be there facilitating
these experiences?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I definitely it's really cool because these these humans are healers,
you know, like like there and they also enjoy being
in the space as well too, because it's different.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I was talking to.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Too Shy about that, and you know, she's she's a
high level trauma therapist, like she's the real deal, Like
she'll she adjusted me, and when I picked my face
up off the thing, I was like, oh, those are
my tears? Holy shit, Like what the fuck? And she
mentioned something that really stuck with me. She was like,
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you know, usually when I do this, I'm working with
rich people who just see you as like a mechanic,
fixed me up.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, leave.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And she's like, in a space like this, I get
to work with people who normally wouldn't be able to
get a session with me, you know, and they're here
and I'm enjoying it, and and and all all the
facilitators went for hours, and of energy that they put
out it's ridiculous, you know, but it's it's also for
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them a healing experience too, because you're you're laying hands.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
On people like you that need it. Yeah, you know,
and I think that's dope.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's also fucking dope the literal fact that it's a
great party. Well, even if without the sexual aspect, if
I was at a party and there's somebody like that
had a chiropract that, I'm like, I might be interested
what's going on over here?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But the party.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Aspect itself is amazing, and the performance aspect is great
because that girl that was in The Red Fish, I
can remember her name. She did the first performance. Oh Jazz,
the Polar, Jazz the Polar. She did that move where
she has like flipped flip.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Yeah, she told me show me how to.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, I did the move last night. To me, I
was like, you figure it out.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I literally was a message.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Video she did.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
She said, I'll show you. I said, I'm gonna need
to know that one.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yazz and and and Lena is surreal. Selena's been doing
the door at our parties for years. She's so dope,
you know, like the whole like stapling hearts your thing
because it's kind of cool because it gets people like.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of Kinks.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And it also it's a part of you, that little
bit of like discomfort, discomfort and fear. It just kind
of shakes you up a little bit. And then having
Shay come in and after and Shae's another top notch
fucking he's incredible. I don't and you haven't even seen
her du pole work. Her pole work was like Wow,
but now we're really lucky. We're really lucky to be
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playing with these people, and and and and and and
having them in the space and they were amped that
that's like good moms, Yeah I'm there.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Well, I was grateful for their presence, and I was
grateful to know to get to know them and experience them, honestly,
because it was beautiful to see their their them and
their art and their power. You could see I don't
know what they're like in their everyday life, but in
that space they were charged up and their power was
super activated and it was beautiful to witness.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
And that soup was delicious.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Shout zap Cook, Okay, well you.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Said that, do you like corn soup? I'm like, what
the fuck is he talking?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like, Yeah, I do?
Speaker 8 (31:25):
But you know, when I got there and I was
eating the soup.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I was like, this is the perfect selection of foods.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
It's like very grounding. It's vegetables. There was no creams.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
It was like it was like nourishing, Like even the
food is curated, you know, it's like it's a nourishing meal.
But it's warm, it feels cozy. It's light enough that
you can carry on and not feel tired. Yeah, and
feeling enough.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
That you're like, all right, I can have I can sustain.
And the souperman was very kind.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Aps been doing. He did our backyard parties. He's done,
he's done pop ups at my bar. It's after a
night of dancing, or if you're playing some intense playing.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Joining drugs and you just hit that legal.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Drugs that are legal in the United States.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Legal, but that is amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Just like, yeah, no, the soup, the souper is delicious
thanks to him. The performances are great, the King activations
are great. That people are amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
DJ DJ DJ, the dance circles that were going on,
I was like, this is the spiritual shit happened right
here because people were going in and that's what saying
is that release, is that release of being able to
dance without worrying someone sneaking up behind you.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I know, a man came and danced with him. I
was like sitting and he like came naked, like to play,
and I was like, okay, we're just like dancing on
the dance floor naked.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
And I was like, this is fun.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's just that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I even saw that too, and I was like, I
don't want to say something, but they're dancing naked.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
This is a good song. Though.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I've seen the homies like just in the middle of dance,
we're dancing talking like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It's all cool. It's like, yo, we're just here where
it existing.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
We're humans. You don't say there's no undertones. No, it's
just here.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
As a person who likes to be naked and topless
a lot, I realize that men don't have a lot
of space like women don't have a lot of spaces
to do it, like you said, like in the comfort
of your bedroom and shit.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Can go into a space feel safe because you know,
for women, a lot of times, initially you see a
dick out and it's a little bit aggressive because it's
a dick. There's been a danger associated with dicks. So
like your dick is out, what are you going to
do next? You know, women have been violated, I mean,
and men have to and so sometimes I have to
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check myself. But it reminds me that we, like, especially
for men, we all kind of we kind of all
deserve the space to be sensual and to be naked,
and men don't really have a lot of space to
do that, to be great full, to be sensual because
in our society we don't put masculinity in those words
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and terms and feelings together. It's like this idea always
have to come off like strong and like beyond guard
and shit. So it's nice to just be able to
indulge in the nudity and remind myself too. It's like
we all want to be out here, ask Bucky naked
and having fun and be free and dance on the
dance floor. You know, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, children, one thing I could say about this space,
I'm just tagging on all of the great things about Assusia.
We are very we're selling it today. What they love
about the space is the how it's strengthen my relationship
at that right because I feel like now that I'm
in this. I go to play parties with my partner Mila,
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and before moving as an individual and a play party
was a much different experience than in a couple. I
feel like we've all seen how I'm moving.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's a unique way of hosting, Orlando.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You have definitely stopped me like, hey, we need you
over here, and I'm like now, but having somebody there
and having a discipline within myself to not necessarily asks
for permission but make sure like my partner is on
the same page of page as me, rather than just
like being a cowboy a while cowboy in the play
party space and just going for everything. I feel like
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it's also gave me a strong level of like not
only discipline, but discernment on how I play or what
I interact with and what may feel more safer for
me in those spaces. And with that I'm able to
like see and facilitate for like other people and what
Noah may feel more comfortable for them, because like, oh,
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I know how this made me feel, whereas before it's
like I'm open for everything.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Do you feel super restricted as going to a party together,
like being in a real relationship in that space.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
No, I don't feel restricted, but I realized that I
can have much better experiences now when I interact with
when I speak to like my partner, and then see
what may be comfortable for both of us. Because before
I would just go into the plane, right, I mean
not to.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Disermon, but people want to play with me. Girls want
to play with me. So I would be like, literally,
let's just get to it.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But now I feel like I have more thought and
more attention behind like how I play. I'm also now
like dancing more. I'm interacting with like the kinky stuff more.
So I was like, oh, yeah, this.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Penis and people.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm not pens and people.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Your experiences as a single woman going into our space now, Ben,
because this is the second time you've been in our
space as a single human or a third.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Well, I think the first time that I went, the
very first time I went to your space, I was single.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Oh that was oh you guys and many night.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Oh oh my god, I was what. You could not
have scripted this ship, There's no way.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
But yeah, yeah, that was an epic night that I
almost didn't even allow myself to participate in before. Yeah,
there was a series of events that happened before that
happened that made me feel really ashamed about even considering going.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
We had a babysitter, we had to find a babysitter,
and we were in like a new city.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
You don't need to tell everyon.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
All the details.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
I wasn't telling all the details, but I was saying
just simply having to have a babysitter and then go.
As a mom, there's always going to be the question
of is this important, Like don't need to drop my
kid off for this? Or am I being like indulgent
or I'm being too much?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:43):
So yeah, So there was that knowing that I was
going to come home and like, yeah, I wouldn't be
a mom the next morning, and and so I almost
didn't go, and then I was like fuck this, I'm going.
And then I'm so happy that I did because it
was super transcending for me. And then going with a
partner was also a beautiful experience as well. And I'm
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actually not single right now, but even going into this
space with a different type of energy, like I'm with
someone who is, we have a lot more conversations around
the space as well, and I'm allowed to do it
not whatever I want to do, but it still I
don't feel tethered. And so I think for me, having
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the perspective of walking in both in different ways has
been really beautiful. To be able to experience it like
with no one to worry about, and experience it with
someone who's never really been in the space and so
like kind of showing him the ropes while also having
new experiences with that person, and then now being in
a different space and.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Still being able to play, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
And it's just been it's every time something new comes
up for me, Like even in this last experience, like
something new came up for me and I was able
to explain talk to my partner about that, and it's
very healing for me.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And I'm excited to see how.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
It continues to expand within myself and within my partnership.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
So I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's dope.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
What's really interesting though, right like as parents, you guys
have younger kids right as they get older, the conversations
around that, you know what I'm saying, Like me having
conversations with my son he's eighteen, you know, sub Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
My dude right there, he started college.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
My daughter's twenty five, and just being able to talk
to them about like, hey, you know what, this is
not something nasty, this is not something dirty. This is
something that requires a lot of responsibility. You know, it's
going to challenge you. This is something's going to challenge
and the way your friends may view you, you know,
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like you owning yourself, you like, I'm in charge of me,
and if I choose to share myself with you, then fine,
but I'm not going to do it or I'm going
to learn not to do it for any other reason
other than making myself happy, you know. And that's that's
something that that you know, because when I started in this,
my son was twelve, you know, just starting a little
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conversations with him around it, like you know, you know
what sex positivity is, and then little questions here and there,
and then at one point he's like, Dad, Like, Dad,
I have I G I was like, and then he
was like and it was it was just dope, like
accepting accepting each other, you know what I'm saying. Where
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he's at, you know, he's called me from school. He's like, Dad,
I just I can't do it, you know, I just
can't stand gay white men.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
He's in Providence, he's I'm like slim picking, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
He's like, yes, I know, but they're just so fucking weird,
and yeah, he's looking forward to coming back to New York.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
I think that that is an interesting I mean, it
does feel like there is a responsibility to protect your
kids and like what like from I guess whatever anyone
else might throw at them, like based on your choices
personally as a parent, and how how you show up
and your choices inevitably could affect your child and how
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they have to defend you or how they not even
knowing how having the language to defend you. And I
think about that often and I don't know if I
even have, Like I don't know if I'm prepared for that,
and not even in just this space, just in the
space of our podcast, which is very transparent and open.
And that's something that comes up for me. It's been
coming up for me more and more because my daughter
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is getting older. So I guess, yeah, how have you
navigated that as far as like your choices potentially putting
your child in a position where now they have to
explain something to someone.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Well, I had to take it with a grain of salt,
because there is that teenage era where it's like everything
you do is going to be corny as fuck to them,
you know, so you got to understand part or embarrassing, right,
But then there's a part where for me and my
experience with with my kids, it's just just talking to them.
(42:33):
You know, Like my daughter told me when she lost
her virginity, you know, and I was like, it's a
quick pause, all right. I was like, all right, dope,
all right.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I was like, were you comfortable somebody? You know?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
With my son too, because I promised my daughter I
would never I wouldn't treat my son any differently, you
know what I'm saying than I treated her, And you know, my.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Son's a little more guard It's like, you know, done everything,
both sex, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
And I get to me his little boyfriend and stuff,
and you know, they're amazing, sweet sweet, sweet little kid.
Sorry young man, I can't get a little kid, but
just just the conversations. These kids know so much more
than we did. They have so much more access to things.
So the thing about it is they're getting access to stuff,
but are they're getting it? Are they is it being
put into perspective? You know, like the conversations need to
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be had, you know, because they they're seeing shit. You know,
they're seeing some wild shit too, So it's like what
it's what did you see? Let's talk about it. You know,
it's nothing embarrassing. You know, this is this is not
a real representation or this is something maybe a little
more real.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I'm not saying sit and watch it with them.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I'm just saying, you know, this is this is real
and and and the kind of humans we are, you know,
you have your inner circle, you have your your your
your support system, you know, and it's there's it's just conversations, constant,
constant talking.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
I think we underestimate how much just existing with us
as parents kind of slow drops into the well, you know,
like I realize, like I've had conversations with Luna, like
moms be naked, but you know, like everybody's not as
free as us, and so like when you go back
to Nana's house, you don't have to tell them everything,
like I canna tell me went to the nude beach, okay? Like,
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and I also realized there is a lot of trauma
in our community, around our bodies, around you know, sex,
around these topics pleasure. It's just not something that we've
had the opportunity to indulge in because we've had other
things on our plate that took priority. But I kind
of like, I'm scared in ways, but I also know,
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like my daughter is such a ride or die for me.
I can't like even she knows I'd be naked. And
then like, you know, I just finished my sexology program
and she was like, I was like, you know what
I went to school for. She was like sexiology or something,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
And there's just like being sexy.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
There's just small instances where I see that I have
the opportunity and you know, obviously there she's nine, so
I'm not like at the eighteen or the fifteen, but
just having I realized this at the party too. My
cousin was there and her son helped us at the
live show, and he's twenty one, but he's such a
cool kid.
Speaker 8 (45:22):
He was with his.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Girlfriend and he was like, I don't know if I'm
come to the party, and I was like, you let
him come to the party to his mom and she
was like, he's twenty when I get it. Ever, he
once and while you're doing the consent speech. I was like,
this actually would have been a good time for him
to experience this. And it took me to like, hear
you have the consent speech, because I was like.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Is he coming?
Speaker 6 (45:39):
But I can understand how these spaces would have changed
things for me tremendously going into my ho phase at
seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty, because I.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Got going into it for seventeen going in I mean.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
I was in my whole face for like a strong
fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Honestly, but a lot of that was like rooted in
trauma just doing ship because I'm confused, you know, and
sometimes I just think a little bit of structure we underestimate,
you know, having uncomfortable conversations with our kids at age
appropriate times that will actually change the game for them.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
There's no like guessing.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
There's no like getting advice from your friends about them.
So I think, you know, and seeing like my son
how he navigates and how he talks to you know,
his let me say, Coote and coot boyfriend about being
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in college and being open with each other and not
not playing the game of it's just you and me,
you know, because that's going to inevitably lead to some
kind of heartbreak at this young age, and it's like, look,
maintain a friendship, talk to each other. And he ran
with it. You know, I see his boyfriend. I bump
(47:06):
into the street.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
What's up? Like you do you know what? You know?
Phoenix coming down next week and hang out. Yeah. Yeah,
so it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
And like I said, at the end of the day,
you're their parent, You're still going to do some corny
ship in their eyes and you know.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Play parties a corny dad.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Yeah, I know. It's like really it's like yo yo
yo son. You know how cool I wasn't the nineties.
I actually said that. I was just like, oh no,
that ship her.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Myself, Oh I got I had a moment like that
myself and my little cousin where I was telling her.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We're in d C. And I was like where you at?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
She was being really vague, and I was like, you know,
I'm from this town, right, Yeah, you know, I know
d C. I was doing things in d C before
even knew your alphabets. I was like, oh no, oh no,
my belt up, look my pants mm hmmm. We we
love doing this play party space thing. I really, I
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really have to say that I've found that overwhelming joy
with doing it. Before I really just wanted to like
really be a bridge and be like, hey, you know,
just come over here if you're really interested, like figure
it out. But me and myself being in this space,
I was like, oh wow, I've learned a lot of discipline,
a lot of discernment.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I even learned how to talk to women.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Better being being in a play party space, because I
realized once two people are naked, you have to show
up as yourself and be real about yourself, and that
is really hard to be fake when you're naked.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
We'll try to run game on somebody.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
But I'm excited about working with you guys, you guys
out in l A thank you like for just like
opening your your world to us. And and you know,
I'm looking forward to more stuff. I'm looking forward to.
I got some ideas, I got some ideas, some cool shit.
Speaker 8 (49:04):
I think, you know, we'll.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Talk about it, see see how it works. Because the
West Coast is big, it's really all the way up.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, things a very large state.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
But I think we could bring a lot of good
things to the West Coast and in that space.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
And I really think that they.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Have a lot of vibe and a lot of like
the person that they have like all the ingredients, right.
You just need the right chefs, right, you need the
right cooks, like come in and like put it together.
Because I like, I like the West Coast, the weather,
it's great, the people are great. And I think that
specifically black and brown people like they're looking for something specific.
Before a year before we even did the play party,
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in December twenty twenty three, me and Mila went to
a party and we were just talking to one of
the guys there who end up being a guardian for
the party, and we were just asking them, like, you
know how I was new to La at the time,
so I was just asking like how it is, how
is it here, and like what's been going on? Can
you give me some information as far as like play
parties with black and around people, who was just like, yeah,
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I have much chances. And I looked out and said,
give me some time throw a play party in La.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
I got your bat.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I'm looking forward. I'm looking forward to twenty seventh.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
US Susia, and you want to partner with good Mom
and mister Smartley so we can throw this party in La,
what made you and Susia wanted to come out to
l A just do something there because there's.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Black people there? Where are the black people? Were the
black we not our kids? And being black, Skain.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
I was like, yeah, I just go out there and
be on my black sicandos. No, I'm I really and
and I thank you for saying me. But it's not
just me. It's like I got to say, it's the
three of us. It's it's it's it's Morgana, It's get go,
Like like without them, it just wouldn't it wouldn't be
what it is without the community. But no, I'm LA's dope.
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Bay Area is dope, Further South is dope. I mean,
I'm I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
I'm for it.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
I'm for it, like really creating spaces for our people
to have breakthroughs and to begin or whatever point of
their journey they're at at censoring their joy and their pleasure.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
You know, Well, thank you for just trusting us and
including us in collaboration like this, and just our tribe too,
because I think there was a time where we were
hesitant about participating in this way because it's just like
we're moms, our kids, We're already doing a lot. We're
already doing a lot, but it makes perfect sense. And
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we are about, you know, play and exploring the pleasure
and giving people permission and reminding them that they don't
need permission. So it makes sense. But I think that
just seeing how you move and seeing like the beautiful
space and community that you've built has really like you know,
I wouldn't wouldn't do with anybody else.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
That's as.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Mumbled mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Let's get an outro from y'all before we get out
of here. I'm gonna where where can the people find y'all?
Individually and together?
Speaker 7 (52:17):
You can find us on all podcast platforms Good Mom's
Bad Choices. You can find us on Instagram at Good
Mom's Underscore Bad Choices. Make sure you check out our website,
Good momsad Choices dot com.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
You can check out where we're what.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
Cities we're coming to next on our tour, our retreats,
which we do them in Costa Rica, and we actually
have one coming up in Atlanta. It's our first in
state retreat. To make sure you check out the Good
Vibe Retreat. You can find me at watch Erica.
Speaker 6 (52:46):
And I'm Mela with an h underscore map with two p's, and.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
You can find both of them at Good Mom's Bad Choices.
We are going to bring y'all a lot of things.
We'll bring you a party, We'll bring you activation kings.
I don't know if we're gonna have the chiropractice, but
we're gonna bring something good for your body.
Speaker 5 (53:06):
Requirement. And I don't I mean to realign me now.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, but honestly, honestly, honestly, the Kinks, the dancing, the music,
the colors. We never really talked about the vibe and
the curation of like the space itself. But Luis Geko
or Morgana are really good with creating environment, not just
with people, but just like lights, aesthetic and everything.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I can't wait to hit l A again. Double n Tandra.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
You know clever Man.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am Orlando aka Orlando Orlando.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
My beautiful co host here with is Luscious Beard.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
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Speaker 3 (53:57):
We we are lifts to lifestyle conversations, the lifestyle from
the lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Mm hmmm. Hello and welcome everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Welcome the Lifts to Lifestyle conversations about the lifestyle from
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
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NYC hanging out here with some gorgeous, gorgeous humans.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
So proud and so happy and honest.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Welcome, Welcome, Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Hi, happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm so happy to have y'all here as well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This is probably the most easiest guest appearance I've ever
had to ask for, and I'm happy we could do it.
We are here because we want to talk about the
play space with y'all and how partnering with y'all in
l was such a success and such a happy, beautiful moment,
and just wants to know how y'all feel about it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
About Hi, I am Mila for the namesake of voices
were how is the play party in LA? It was
phenomenal we had a really good time. It was the
first time I've been to a space like that in
LA with as many beautiful black and brown people in
the pleasure space, so it brought very much a lot
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of joy to my heart.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
I enjoyed it, of course, I always love every Soussi
event I've ever been to.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I've just been just really floored.
Speaker 7 (01:38):
I just the space and the energy that's created that
Luis has been able to curate, and I feel like
traveling over to LA, the vibe was still intact. I
loved the theme Afrofuturism, women men. We all participated, which
I felt like really brought an element of lay, even
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more play playfulness to the space, and it was just
so beautiful to see everyone's rendition of what that means
to them, what a future ad for futurism means, and
for me, I was so excited. I'm a I'm a
theme ass bitch. So you give me a theme and
it's not Halloween, I'm happy.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I Mean, I love Halloween.
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Too, but if we're doing it outside of that, I'm
even more happy because I love putting looks together. So
I think it just created the space of just people
feeling really even more comfortable playing because that they were
almost like four playing themselves at the house, just like
getting ready adorning themselves. So I really I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It was super exciting for me, especially being able to
work with you too, you know, as a parent, you know,
just trying to balance trying to balance your role as
a parent, as a human, as a spiritual person, as
a sexual being. Being able to work with power houses
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like you in a space like you and the vibe
you guys brought out and the crowd, it was. It
was really something special and I'm really excited to see
what's gonna happen on the next one. Last night was crazy.
Last night was crazy, Like I was.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I was.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I was walking around looking around this one over here
is just Erica is doing her sexy like ooh, and
Amila and Emila is there doing her little sexy thing,
and you're getting all tied up.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
It was, it was, it was. It was a great night.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Seeing the Impact station the dancing, that to me was
really was really key, just seeing people dance, seeing people move,
seeing people get that energy out of them and then
make room for good energy coming in.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Like that was. That was definitely something beautiful.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I've asked this question before. I want to know what
y'all thought. But what is like sex parties do for y'all?
I just give you an example me and Louise I
had asked him before and we were talking about this now.
I was saying that it's empowering just the safety of
a space, to being powered to feel safe and be
able to like ask for what you want but also
say no in spaces. But the energy and the sexual
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energy is like really charges me up. And the sex
that I have after a play party is one of
the best experiences, like not at the player but afterwards
with my girlfriend. It's fire. So it's like very empowering
for me. What does a play party do for y'all?
Speaker 6 (04:27):
I feel like it's like a container of like energetic medicine.
You can step into a place and like become recharged.
But also there is a I feel like when people
come into a space and everyone agrees to be open,
and everyone agrees to be respectful and everyone agrees to
be free, there is like a medicinal exchange that happens,
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And I always like, I'm grateful that we get to
be in this space with Sousia, and especially because it's
for us. We've been talking about our journey to freedom
for six years with our community and so it's like
a long term for play to finally get to the place.
I think a lot of people talk about shit, but
no one has the opportunity to indulge and experience it.
(05:13):
And I'm like, I feel super proud that you've given
us the confidence to step into this space and to
include our community in this way, because I talked to
a lot of people the other night, and there are
people who are there alone, women who are there alone,
women who are there for the first time. I just
got a text from someone like I had my first threesome.
It was great, you know. And to be able to
be like a facilitate, a facilitator to create this space
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is super special. And I think that like the best
example I can give is, like, you know, when you
go to a like a music festival, and most people
are like hi and happy, and you're just welcoming to
strangers and you're hugging strangers and people are helping each
other out because there's just like a primary uh, like
everybody's there for one thing, right, the exchange of music,
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the energetic exchange of like openness, like no one's there
on math because we're going to go party and in
like be in community. And I think the sex party
is the same thing in a smaller space because it's
not necessarily about just sex, but it's about freedom to explore. Yes,
this freedom to explore knows and like you said in
the consent speech, which I thought was super important, and
(06:19):
your consents speech is always the bomb, but that black
people haven't had agency over their bodies until recently. So
it's a very sensitive space. But it's also just sacred
to be able to indulge in that together as a community.
And so I just feel like it's medicine.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
I would say confidence is one of the things that
this space has given.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Me, just confidence in just being my wildest self.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Like it creates this, like she said, a container of
this this energy that has allowed me to be a
performer if I feel like it, I can. Like you said,
I remember there was a moment for the DJ BO
I was like, am I'm a fucking.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Burlesque dancer, BITCHU. I was like, I didn't know, but
here I am.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
And it just gives me a confidence to just explore
maybe parts of myself that maybe I've only given myself
permission to explore alone in my room. And also just
like I was in the middle of the floor dancing
and doing my thing and no one interrupted me. No
one came and tried to like take me out of it,
try to impose their whatever they wanted to do and
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participate with me. And I was in my own little
bubble world, and I needed that moment, and I needed
the energy around me as well to support it.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
There was only so much sex dancing.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I think I could do a loan in my room,
Like there really is that supportive energy around and then
also like being really able to explore what it like
my yeses and my nose and my interests. I mean,
I always talk about Susia's the educational factor that Susia
facilitates in the space and the actives from these professional
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people that have cultivated these practices for themselves and for
other people. And so even me, like the other night,
like I'm not really into spanking in my like regular life,
Like it hurts me. It's just like not my thing,
even though like I am submissive sexually, it's just not
my thing, or so I thought it wasn't my thing.
So then I was talking to someone and I was saying,
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it's just not my thing, and they're like, well, I
just got spanked over there by that by that person
over there, and they really changed my mind. And I
was like, okay, well let me go try fine, let
me go try. Maybe I've just been spanked bare hand
too much and it just wasn't right. And so I
did and he was so he was so attentive. He
asked me so many questions before we even began that
(08:46):
I never even thought to be to ask, and like,
how would you like after car after that, like, so
this is what I'm going to do?
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Is that okay with you?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
And when I experienced it, I realized like, yeah, there,
I had only been experiencing one type of form of
play in this space, and being able to experience it
with someone who is well versed in it really changed
my perspective and made me excited to bring that play
home to my partner.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
So I think that it has been expansive for me
personally and within the realms of my relationships.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It's dope. Yeah, it's interesting because I think it challenges
what we view sex to be sex for me. Sensuality
for me is everything, you know, from walking into the space,
talking to people, reading the room, seeing the stations, seeing
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the smiling faces. And I really enjoyed. I really enjoyed
the fact that people did give you guys your space.
That was I was a little concerned about that, you know,
because you guys have to come down right after the show.
You're kind of like a drop, you know what I'm saying.
So being able to experience that have it without being bothered,
I think, is dope.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You know. I don't know, man, I'm I'm I'm I'm
just I was really, really really hype off that show,
you know. I was like, this is this is some
good ship, this is like, this is it?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
This is it speaking about being hype of shit?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And one of the things that was a shock to
me and I didn't seem coming, but I love the.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The introduction of it was.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I came up with a god goddess room, which
is one of my favorite fucking ideas because if you
have a bunch of women in a room just like
being pleased, like what else could you ask for at
a play party?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
But I'll let y'all tell it. What was with this
goddess from like activation.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
When we forgot to tell people this other day, which
was disappointing, I was too busy getting soup. But when
we did do it in La and I want to
do it again, I had this brilliant idea.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Me and Eric I always talk about like goddess.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Experiences and being served by the masculine, just being served
in general, even by the feminine.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
I think women are not.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Really used to being served like they should be, and
we're often used to giving and feel like our worth
is tied to our giving, especially in sexual spaces. And
so it's like a kind of a reclamation of becoming
comfortable with being served and being goddesses and like kind
of taking back a rightful place like Mufassa.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
But I felt like.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
Just the experiences that me and my friend have been
able to cultivate because we're innovative and we are we've
been really well seasoned into asking for what we want,
kind of asking our tribe to being able to indulge
in that. And even at the retreats, this is like
a part of that is like serving women. We go
there to serve the women that come, because I think
women are not even used to being served by other
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women platonically in an intimate space, you know. And I
think having the space to just be like, yeah, come
sit down in this non sex room and feed the
women fruits is something very basic and simple, but it
kind of repairs a relationship between men and women that
especially Black men and women, that I don't think we've
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had the tools or the opportunity to be able to
non sexually.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Heal exchange, having exchange with one another.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
That's platonic but intimate and romantic in ways, but there's
no expectation of anything unless you so choose to in
a different room. So that was kind of the idea
behind that, And you know, I was surprised even in
LA like a lot of women came up.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I think it's dope.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Allowing yourself the space for people to do things for you.
I think it's really dope. And I think one thing
I've noticed, especially for moms, you know, I think you
guys spoken about it, is like you guys are always last.
And even in my family, when I talked to the elders,
the old ideas and stuff and simple question like what
makes you happy? And the response is if my kids
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and my husband are happy, you know, and to get
to that point in your life where you're telling yourself
that you know in your seventies and shit, and it's
it's crazy, you know, because it hasn't been challenged. So
I think it's dope that you guys challenge that at
this young stage of your life where it's like, no,
what makes me happy is a plethora of things. Is
not just tied to the person I'm with or the
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person that came out of me. You know, you're your
own individual and to create that space is dope, Like
let people do things for you, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:31):
And you'd be so surprised by that, like sentence alone
being extremely triggering to people. When people when we talk
about like being happy as moms and women, it's like.
Speaker 8 (13:44):
Selfish.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
I've literally hollerd niggas be like that's crazy. You're not
supposed to be happy.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
You're not always going.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
To be happy.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
You're not always going to be happy. You have to
sacrifice because you're a mom. You're a mom, Like, what
do you it's not about your happiness. We made this
choice and that's like the biggest crock of shit ever.
And it's like it's been like a long term campaign
on women fucking being at the bottom of the totem
pole while we give nothing, we have nothing left to give,
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And then it creates poison in our in our family structures,
and then we don't realize why. It's because we've literally
been given this narrative that we are supposed to be
self sacrificing or else we're not doing a good job.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
Yeah, I would say it creates also jealousy within within
other women and moms too, because you might see another
mom and you think, oh my god, look she's got
it all together. I mean, me and Mila talk about
how we met and we and we placed judgment on
one another just based off of perception of Instagram, you know.
And so when you create a space of like evenness,
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which I think that room that we have the goddess experience,
and it creates a space like everyone that enters this
room is a goddess.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
It doesn't matter if you are a mom of ten
or never had a child in your whole life. When
you walk into this room, you deserve respect and you
deserve to be cared for. And even the other day
at the at at Susia, I told someone was like
I would I really want to come to one of
your retreats. And I said to her, I would love
to take care of you, and she just started crying
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and she's like, I've never heard a woman say that
to me, like you want to take.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Care of me?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
And I was like, yes, I do.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
And so that even that God has experienced, I think
that the platonicness of it is so important for women
to be able to take care of one another in
that space. And it's as simple as putting a fucking
pineapple in a bitch's mouth, you know, for her to
be like oh wow, like thank you, and then someone
say like, how does that taste? Does that taste good?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Would you like more? Which one would you like me
to choose for you? This one perfect? Okay? Does that
taste good? You want something different? No problem? You know,
Like just the simple interaction of just asking sking how
you're doing and how you're feeling and being a part
of the supporting her pleasure is healing. And I loved
that room. I love that there was a room at
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the party that there was no sex allowed, because I
think too when sometimes people come to the space and
people have asked us about the space, they're like so
everyone's just fucking everywhere, Like what is it?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Like?
Speaker 7 (16:19):
It's like is it overwhelming? Like especially for people that
have never been to that space, they're just wondering that
They're like, are like is are my boundaries going to
be crossed at every moment?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Like?
Speaker 7 (16:30):
Am I going to have to witness someone having sex?
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I don't feel like watching?
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Like you know, like there's all these misconceptions and and
that's why that's why I've always loved the spaces that
you've created the least, because there is it's just a
beautiful flow and people just kind of know where to
be and it's ultimately like a beautiful, like the best
party I've ever been to.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
It's like you can dance, you can drink, you don't,
you can you can chill on the couch and meet
a new friend and like there's no pressure to do anything.
But sexual energy is so charged. It's so healing that
just being in that space inevitably you let your guard down,
even if you choose not to play. There's there's like
an unmasking that happens no matter what, and you leave change,
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you leave with a different perspective. And it's been such
a beautiful process. To watch the women specifically transform from
that from that experience.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's awesome. It's really awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What's really funny is I'll bump into people in public
spaces who've been in the party, and I will not
recognize them at all because it's like you're putting.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Armor, the armor back on you.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
You're in the same outfit, you can look.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Different, and this thing about it, like I was, you know,
I've been to some other parties and I'm like, okay,
this is like almost overly curated to the point of
everyone looks the same as opposed to having different body
types and different different you know, shapes and sizes. Because
the beauty of an event like the one that we
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did yesterday is that when everybody feels comfortable, everyone's glowing
and everyone is beautiful. You know, people that normally you
would maybe maybe not have noticed or whatever.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
And you see them be like, oh shit, you're glowing,
and that to me is like the ship's that's that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
We are supporters of the glow confidence.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I really love that you said that,
you know, let me take care of you, and like
how we can support these people, because it really is
not like our job, but something that we take on
with making people feel comfortable. We are all individually curiators
or a vibe right, so together is like really amazing.
I remember the party on Saturday. This girl was saying
that she wanted to mess with this guy, but it's
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kind of like nervous to go into like the whole
straight into the sex thing. And I was like, why
don't you just asks for a hug, like start very tiny,
like come on, do you like hugs? Like give me
a hug? And I was like, see, how did that feel?
She was like that did feel good? Be right back,
and I saw her run right over straight to him
like hey, let's let's let's do a hug right now.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
See and that's play party. Yeah, that's like inner child
coming out, Like what I can do that. I won't
be judged. I won't be like looked that funny. And
about saying about the vibe you guys bring, it's it's different,
it's dope, it's.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I don't know's there's there's there's a boss vibe.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's a really they're a real cool boss, like oh
oh they're here, they're here. And I saw the crowd
kind of like, oh right, all right, they're here, Yeah,
don't don't bother them. I can see people regulating their ship.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
The creatures walking, no, really just here without security.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
It's like this real cool like feeline sexy energy just coming.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
In and just like floating.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Man, it was dope. It was dope, was dope. I
really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
But the thing about community and letting people do things
for you is big, you know, just just like for instance,
even when when when Simo got in a car accident
and the community came together to help her, you know, and
she was just like no, no, I was like, let
the community help help and it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Triple her recovery rate. You know what I'm saying, things
like that.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And we've seen some really cool shit in the community,
Like in the seven years six seven years, they're like
three people got married in from the community. Yeah, six
people had kids and they're all still together. You know
what I'm saying, don't take turns coming to the party
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watching the kid, you know, wife comes, dude comes, whatever,
and and it's it's it's some dope ship. And I'm
really I think in La what stuck out to me
a lot was there there was well the guardians were
super dope and I want to shout out Mikaela. Yeah,
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she brought in a different vibe too, and I was like,
this is cool. There's just there's just l a vibe
I really can't put my finger on sometimes a little
different from New York.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And I was like, this is like just nice over there.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Chill, you know, I really and I'm really excited to
see what the second iteration is going to be out
there and and maybe what the theme is.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
I feel like this La party was definitely like people
needed to just come out and kind of like see
what was going on, because like, there's been no space
like that I've been to, well have I've been to
like one or two parties in LA and they're not
They've never been good.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
And so I think.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
People who have went to those parties probably have a perception.
They're like, you know, they're like what what so what's
this going to be?
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Well? How is this going to be different?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
You know? And I think that that first party was
definitely like an opportunity for people to kind of.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Like come see the vibes, see the scene.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
And I have a feeling that this next party is
going to be even more playful now that people are like, oh, okay,
I see myself there. It's like I see the black
and brown bodies. And that's really important for us because
I know for me, being in a space where I
don't see myself, I feel uncomfortable. I don't want to
feel watched by fetishized. Yeah, and specifically the men too,
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you know. And so I think I'm really I'm really
excited for LA to be able to experience that type
of play and pleasure in a space where they do
see themselves and they're able to relax into the experience.
I think it's going to offer a lot of healing
for the women and the men and not everyone that
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live in in my city. So I'm really excited to
describe the medicine to my hometown.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Yeah, I definitely need that comfort because I walk into
a space and I don't see a lot of me,
Especially in a sex space. Everything is like protruding back
into my body. My dick is going into is going in,
but is going to know.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
We're thinking of were throwing out ideas the other day,
get going on and we're like, what will be the
next cool when we do like a I know like
we're thinking just spitballing like what like a like.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
An afro anime.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
All these things like it's l a like like like
like afro Hntaturism.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Was so good.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
It was such a good theme. I'm like, how are
you going to beat that? Because yeah, we are some
dressing up ass bitches. I like to play like in
dress up and it was nice to see other people
indulge and like participate because I don't think as brown
and black people, we get a lot of opportunities to play,
you know sometimes like when life is serious and there's
real shit going on and like we're constantly moving, it's
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like who has time to play? And so it's just
like it's not Halloween and we get to dress up?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Yeah, it made you have to take a second out
of your day to really consider how do I want
to show up to this.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
And what does that for futurism mean? Like if I
get to play in like you know, play in this space,
what does that look like? And it was really nice
to see the men participated. You know, a man be
acting weird about doing anything outside of this the box.
Speaker 8 (24:24):
So it was nice to see them come out.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I'm extremely happy to see how La came out for
that party, because I just this is just my opinion.
I think that people have the right personality, they just
don't have the right structure for things to happen. So
I think if people in LA had like not only
the play parties, like the workshops, the vanilla type of
events where it's just dancing and chill and people come
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and realize, oh, this is what I should be saying,
this is how I should be speaking to people. Because
me and Mili's experienced both of us together doing play parties.
Going to play parties in LA, wasn't that great?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And the people and the.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Thing about it, I realized that the people weren't They
weren't bad people or violating people. But there are just
certain ways to move and go about things that we
just know naturally or we just know that we've learned
throughout being in this space. I remember one time me
and Milo were playing and a guy is he's just voyuring,
but he's not super close, but he's close enough and
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jerking off.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
And it's one thing when you can't see it, but
when it's hitting like more than your peripheral, Like now
you're kind of in like.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
And then you add the stroking y'all are sexy as
fun distracted.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
That reminds me of that Day Chappelle episode when when
Homeboy was in the room with the with the former inmate.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, so there's like, yeah, there's a certain type of
like glaring and gawking that could be alleviated if you
know how to like maneuver in the space and voyeur
more comfortably.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I really think it's about turning down because it's it's
it's humans and penises that do that shit for the
most part, not I mean everybody, but that's for the
most part, And it's just turning down. And it's a
process of like, look, everyone else needs to take up space.
We regularly take up space without even knowing it, you know,
that male privilege. We just we're in it, you know,
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So just being able to just it's like playing in
the band, right, if the drummer's too loud, then no
one else is really going to be hurt that much,
you know what I'm saying. So just turn your shit
down a couple of notches, Let everyone turn up, and
things beautiful things happen, you know, saying great conversations happen,
like breakthroughs happen, all kinds of awesome things, and then
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people feel safer, you know, and that's super important.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And the performances they're great.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Yeah, I literally and like I woke up in the
morning from the one here in New York and my
body felt better.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
I got readjusted at the party. I got a.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Chiropractic experience, and I was telling my friends, like yes.
She was like, you got a chiropractor experience at the
sex party. I was like, yes, and I feel better today,
like my back had been killing me and she did
her thing on my body. I was like, I love
this space I can get. I can test out why
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I don't like getting spanked and change my mind, and
then I can also get realigned over here.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
And I was like, this is what it's about.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
It's about, like, yeah, it's it's not always what you
think it's going to be, and it really is about
being able to come back in your body, feel safe
in your body, feel good in your body. And it
looks different in every space and every party and every
Sussie party. Don't really always know what you're going to get,
and that's what I love about it too. It's always
kind of like a treat. It's almost like a little surprise,
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little gift that you're going to get when you walk
through that door, Like who's going to be there facilitating
these experiences?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
I definitely it's really cool because these these humans are healers,
you know, like like there and they also enjoy being
in the space as well too, because it's different.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I was talking to.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Too Shy about that, and you know, she's she's a
high level trauma therapist, like she's the real deal, Like
she'll she adjusted me, and when I picked my face
up off the thing, I was like, oh, those are
my tears? Holy shit, Like what the fuck? And she
mentioned something that really stuck with me. She was like,
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you know, usually when I do this, I'm working with
rich people who just see you as like a mechanic,
fixed me up.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay, leave.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And she's like, in a space like this, I get
to work with people who normally wouldn't be able to
get a session with me, you know, and they're here
and I'm enjoying it, and and and all all the
facilitators went for hours, and of energy that they put
out it's ridiculous, you know, but it's it's also for
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them a healing experience too, because you're you're laying hands.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
On people like you that need it. Yeah, you know,
and I think that's dope.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's also fucking dope the literal fact that it's a
great party. Well, even if without the sexual aspect, if
I was at a party and there's somebody like that
had a chiropract that, I'm like, I might be interested
what's going on over here?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
But the party.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Aspect itself is amazing, and the performance aspect is great
because that girl that was in The Red Fish, I
can remember her name. She did the first performance. Oh Jazz,
the Polar, Jazz the Polar. She did that move where
she has like flipped flip.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Yeah, she told me show me how to.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, I did the move last night. To me, I
was like, you figure it out.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I literally was a message.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
Video she did.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
She said, I'll show you. I said, I'm gonna need
to know that one.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Yazz and and and Lena is surreal. Selena's been doing
the door at our parties for years. She's so dope,
you know, like the whole like stapling hearts your thing
because it's kind of cool because it gets people like.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of Kinks.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
And it also it's a part of you, that little
bit of like discomfort, discomfort and fear. It just kind
of shakes you up a little bit. And then having
Shay come in and after and Shae's another top notch
fucking he's incredible. I don't and you haven't even seen
her du pole work. Her pole work was like Wow,
but now we're really lucky. We're really lucky to be
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playing with these people, and and and and and and
having them in the space and they were amped that
that's like good moms, Yeah I'm there.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Well, I was grateful for their presence, and I was
grateful to know to get to know them and experience them, honestly,
because it was beautiful to see their their them and
their art and their power. You could see I don't
know what they're like in their everyday life, but in
that space they were charged up and their power was
super activated and it was beautiful to witness.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
And that soup was delicious.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Shout zap Cook, Okay, well you.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Said that, do you like corn soup? I'm like, what
the fuck is he talking?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like, Yeah, I do?
Speaker 8 (31:25):
But you know, when I got there and I was
eating the soup.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
I was like, this is the perfect selection of foods.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
It's like very grounding. It's vegetables. There was no creams.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
It was like it was like nourishing, Like even the
food is curated, you know, it's like it's a nourishing meal.
But it's warm, it feels cozy. It's light enough that
you can carry on and not feel tired. Yeah, and
feeling enough.
Speaker 7 (31:47):
That you're like, all right, I can have I can sustain.
And the souperman was very kind.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Aps been doing. He did our backyard parties. He's done,
he's done pop ups at my bar. It's after a
night of dancing, or if you're playing some intense playing.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Joining drugs and you just hit that legal.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Drugs that are legal in the United States.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Legal, but that is amazing.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Just like, yeah, no, the soup, the souper is delicious
thanks to him. The performances are great, the King activations
are great. That people are amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
DJ DJ DJ, the dance circles that were going on,
I was like, this is the spiritual shit happened right
here because people were going in and that's what saying
is that release, is that release of being able to
dance without worrying someone sneaking up behind you.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I know, a man came and danced with him. I
was like sitting and he like came naked, like to play,
and I was like, okay, we're just like dancing on
the dance floor naked.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
And I was like, this is fun.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It's just that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I even saw that too, and I was like, I
don't want to say something, but they're dancing naked.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
This is a good song. Though.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I've seen the homies like just in the middle of dance,
we're dancing talking like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
It's all cool. It's like, yo, we're just here where
it existing.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
We're humans. You don't say there's no undertones. No, it's
just here.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
As a person who likes to be naked and topless
a lot, I realize that men don't have a lot
of space like women don't have a lot of spaces
to do it, like you said, like in the comfort
of your bedroom and shit.
Speaker 8 (33:24):
But when you.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Can go into a space feel safe because you know,
for women, a lot of times, initially you see a
dick out and it's a little bit aggressive because it's
a dick. There's been a danger associated with dicks. So
like your dick is out, what are you going to
do next? You know, women have been violated, I mean,
and men have to and so sometimes I have to
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check myself. But it reminds me that we, like, especially
for men, we all kind of we kind of all
deserve the space to be sensual and to be naked,
and men don't really have a lot of space to
do that, to be great full, to be sensual because
in our society we don't put masculinity in those words
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and terms and feelings together. It's like this idea always
have to come off like strong and like beyond guard
and shit. So it's nice to just be able to
indulge in the nudity and remind myself too. It's like
we all want to be out here, ask Bucky naked
and having fun and be free and dance on the
dance floor. You know, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, children, one thing I could say about this space,
I'm just tagging on all of the great things about Assusia.
We are very we're selling it today. What they love
about the space is the how it's strengthen my relationship
at that right because I feel like now that I'm
in this. I go to play parties with my partner Mila,
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and before moving as an individual and a play party
was a much different experience than in a couple. I
feel like we've all seen how I'm moving.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
That's a unique way of hosting, Orlando.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
You have definitely stopped me like, hey, we need you
over here, and I'm like now, but having somebody there
and having a discipline within myself to not necessarily asks
for permission but make sure like my partner is on
the same page of page as me, rather than just
like being a cowboy a while cowboy in the play
party space and just going for everything. I feel like
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it's also gave me a strong level of like not
only discipline, but discernment on how I play or what
I interact with and what may feel more safer for
me in those spaces. And with that I'm able to
like see and facilitate for like other people and what
Noah may feel more comfortable for them, because like, oh,
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I know how this made me feel, whereas before it's
like I'm open for everything.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Do you feel super restricted as going to a party together,
like being in a real relationship in that space.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
No, I don't feel restricted, but I realized that I
can have much better experiences now when I interact with
when I speak to like my partner, and then see
what may be comfortable for both of us. Because before
I would just go into the plane, right, I mean
not to.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Disermon, but people want to play with me. Girls want
to play with me. So I would be like, literally,
let's just get to it.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
But now I feel like I have more thought and
more attention behind like how I play. I'm also now
like dancing more. I'm interacting with like the kinky stuff more.
So I was like, oh, yeah, this.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Penis and people.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, I'm not pens and people.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Your experiences as a single woman going into our space now, Ben,
because this is the second time you've been in our
space as a single human or a third.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Well, I think the first time that I went, the
very first time I went to your space, I was single.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Oh that was oh you guys and many night.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Oh oh my god, I was what. You could not
have scripted this ship, There's no way.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
But yeah, yeah, that was an epic night that I
almost didn't even allow myself to participate in before. Yeah,
there was a series of events that happened before that
happened that made me feel really ashamed about even considering going.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
We had a babysitter, we had to find a babysitter,
and we were in like a new city.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
You don't need to tell everyon.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
All the details.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
I wasn't telling all the details, but I was saying
just simply having to have a babysitter and then go.
As a mom, there's always going to be the question
of is this important, Like don't need to drop my
kid off for this? Or am I being like indulgent
or I'm being too much?
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:43):
So yeah, So there was that knowing that I was
going to come home and like, yeah, I wouldn't be
a mom the next morning, and and so I almost
didn't go, and then I was like fuck this, I'm going.
And then I'm so happy that I did because it
was super transcending for me. And then going with a
partner was also a beautiful experience as well. And I'm
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actually not single right now, but even going into this
space with a different type of energy, like I'm with
someone who is, we have a lot more conversations around
the space as well, and I'm allowed to do it
not whatever I want to do, but it still I
don't feel tethered. And so I think for me, having
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the perspective of walking in both in different ways has
been really beautiful. To be able to experience it like
with no one to worry about, and experience it with
someone who's never really been in the space and so
like kind of showing him the ropes while also having
new experiences with that person, and then now being in
a different space and.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Still being able to play, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
And it's just been it's every time something new comes
up for me, Like even in this last experience, like
something new came up for me and I was able
to explain talk to my partner about that, and it's
very healing for me.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
And I'm excited to see how.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
It continues to expand within myself and within my partnership.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
So I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
It's dope.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
What's really interesting though, right like as parents, you guys
have younger kids right as they get older, the conversations
around that, you know what I'm saying, Like me having
conversations with my son he's eighteen, you know, sub Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
My dude right there, he started college.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
My daughter's twenty five, and just being able to talk
to them about like, hey, you know what, this is
not something nasty, this is not something dirty. This is
something that requires a lot of responsibility. You know, it's
going to challenge you. This is something's going to challenge
and the way your friends may view you, you know,
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like you owning yourself, you like, I'm in charge of me,
and if I choose to share myself with you, then fine,
but I'm not going to do it or I'm going
to learn not to do it for any other reason
other than making myself happy, you know. And that's that's
something that that you know, because when I started in this,
my son was twelve, you know, just starting a little
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conversations with him around it, like you know, you know
what sex positivity is, and then little questions here and there,
and then at one point he's like, Dad, Like, Dad,
I have I G I was like, and then he
was like and it was it was just dope, like
accepting accepting each other, you know what I'm saying. Where
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he's at, you know, he's called me from school. He's like, Dad,
I just I can't do it, you know, I just
can't stand gay white men.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
He's in Providence, he's I'm like slim picking, you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
He's like, yes, I know, but they're just so fucking weird,
and yeah, he's looking forward to coming back to New York.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
I think that that is an interesting I mean, it
does feel like there is a responsibility to protect your
kids and like what like from I guess whatever anyone
else might throw at them, like based on your choices
personally as a parent, and how how you show up
and your choices inevitably could affect your child and how
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they have to defend you or how they not even
knowing how having the language to defend you. And I
think about that often and I don't know if I
even have, Like I don't know if I'm prepared for that,
and not even in just this space, just in the
space of our podcast, which is very transparent and open.
And that's something that comes up for me. It's been
coming up for me more and more because my daughter
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is getting older. So I guess, yeah, how have you
navigated that as far as like your choices potentially putting
your child in a position where now they have to
explain something to someone.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Well, I had to take it with a grain of salt,
because there is that teenage era where it's like everything
you do is going to be corny as fuck to them,
you know, so you got to understand part or embarrassing, right,
But then there's a part where for me and my
experience with with my kids, it's just just talking to them.
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You know, Like my daughter told me when she lost
her virginity, you know, and I was like, it's a
quick pause, all right. I was like, all right, dope,
all right.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
I was like, were you comfortable somebody? You know?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
With my son too, because I promised my daughter I
would never I wouldn't treat my son any differently, you
know what I'm saying than I treated her, And you know, my.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Son's a little more guard It's like, you know, done everything,
both sex, you know.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
And I get to me his little boyfriend and stuff,
and you know, they're amazing, sweet sweet, sweet little kid.
Sorry young man, I can't get a little kid, but
just just the conversations. These kids know so much more
than we did. They have so much more access to things.
So the thing about it is they're getting access to stuff,
but are they're getting it? Are they is it being
put into perspective? You know, like the conversations need to
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be had, you know, because they they're seeing shit. You know,
they're seeing some wild shit too, So it's like what
it's what did you see? Let's talk about it. You know,
it's nothing embarrassing. You know, this is this is not
a real representation or this is something maybe a little
more real.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
I'm not saying sit and watch it with them.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
I'm just saying, you know, this is this is real
and and and the kind of humans we are, you know,
you have your inner circle, you have your your your
your support system, you know, and it's there's it's just conversations, constant,
constant talking.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
I think we underestimate how much just existing with us
as parents kind of slow drops into the well, you know,
like I realize, like I've had conversations with Luna, like
moms be naked, but you know, like everybody's not as
free as us, and so like when you go back
to Nana's house, you don't have to tell them everything,
like I canna tell me went to the nude beach, okay? Like,
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and I also realized there is a lot of trauma
in our community, around our bodies, around you know, sex,
around these topics pleasure. It's just not something that we've
had the opportunity to indulge in because we've had other
things on our plate that took priority. But I kind
of like, I'm scared in ways, but I also know,
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like my daughter is such a ride or die for me.
I can't like even she knows I'd be naked. And
then like, you know, I just finished my sexology program
and she was like, I was like, you know what
I went to school for. She was like sexiology or something,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
And there's just like being sexy.
Speaker 6 (45:03):
There's just small instances where I see that I have
the opportunity and you know, obviously there she's nine, so
I'm not like at the eighteen or the fifteen, but
just having I realized this at the party too. My
cousin was there and her son helped us at the
live show, and he's twenty one, but he's such a
cool kid.
Speaker 8 (45:22):
He was with his.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
Girlfriend and he was like, I don't know if I'm
come to the party, and I was like, you let
him come to the party to his mom and she
was like, he's twenty when I get it. Ever, he
once and while you're doing the consent speech. I was like,
this actually would have been a good time for him
to experience this. And it took me to like, hear
you have the consent speech, because I was like.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Is he coming?
Speaker 6 (45:39):
But I can understand how these spaces would have changed
things for me tremendously going into my ho phase at
seventeen eighteen, nineteen twenty, because I.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Got going into it for seventeen going in I mean.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
I was in my whole face for like a strong
fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Honestly, but a lot of that was like rooted in
trauma just doing ship because I'm confused, you know, and
sometimes I just think a little bit of structure we underestimate,
you know, having uncomfortable conversations with our kids at age
appropriate times that will actually change the game for them.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
There's no like guessing.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
There's no like getting advice from your friends about them.
So I think, you know, and seeing like my son
how he navigates and how he talks to you know,
his let me say, Coote and coot boyfriend about being
(46:45):
in college and being open with each other and not
not playing the game of it's just you and me,
you know, because that's going to inevitably lead to some
kind of heartbreak at this young age, and it's like, look,
maintain a friendship, talk to each other. And he ran
with it. You know, I see his boyfriend. I bump
(47:06):
into the street.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
What's up? Like you do you know what? You know?
Phoenix coming down next week and hang out. Yeah. Yeah,
so it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
And like I said, at the end of the day,
you're their parent, You're still going to do some corny
ship in their eyes and you know.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Play parties a corny dad.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Yeah, I know. It's like really it's like yo yo
yo son. You know how cool I wasn't the nineties.
I actually said that. I was just like, oh no,
that ship her.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
Myself, Oh I got I had a moment like that
myself and my little cousin where I was telling her.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
We're in d C. And I was like where you at?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
She was being really vague, and I was like, you know,
I'm from this town, right, Yeah, you know, I know
d C. I was doing things in d C before
even knew your alphabets. I was like, oh no, oh no,
my belt up, look my pants mm hmmm. We we
love doing this play party space thing. I really, I
(48:06):
really have to say that I've found that overwhelming joy
with doing it. Before I really just wanted to like
really be a bridge and be like, hey, you know,
just come over here if you're really interested, like figure
it out. But me and myself being in this space,
I was like, oh wow, I've learned a lot of discipline,
a lot of discernment.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I even learned how to talk to women.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Better being being in a play party space, because I
realized once two people are naked, you have to show
up as yourself and be real about yourself, and that
is really hard to be fake when you're naked.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
We'll try to run game on somebody.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
But I'm excited about working with you guys, you guys
out in l A thank you like for just like
opening your your world to us. And and you know,
I'm looking forward to more stuff. I'm looking forward to.
I got some ideas, I got some ideas, some cool shit.
Speaker 8 (49:04):
I think, you know, we'll.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
Talk about it, see see how it works. Because the
West Coast is big, it's really all the way up.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, things a very large state.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
But I think we could bring a lot of good
things to the West Coast and in that space.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
And I really think that they.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Have a lot of vibe and a lot of like
the person that they have like all the ingredients, right.
You just need the right chefs, right, you need the
right cooks, like come in and like put it together.
Because I like, I like the West Coast, the weather,
it's great, the people are great. And I think that
specifically black and brown people like they're looking for something specific.
Before a year before we even did the play party,
(49:44):
in December twenty twenty three, me and Mila went to
a party and we were just talking to one of
the guys there who end up being a guardian for
the party, and we were just asking them, like, you
know how I was new to La at the time,
so I was just asking like how it is, how
is it here, and like what's been going on? Can
you give me some information as far as like play
parties with black and around people, who was just like, yeah,
(50:05):
I have much chances. And I looked out and said,
give me some time throw a play party in La.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
I got your bat.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
I'm looking forward. I'm looking forward to twenty seventh.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
US Susia, and you want to partner with good Mom
and mister Smartley so we can throw this party in La,
what made you and Susia wanted to come out to
l A just do something there because there's.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Black people there? Where are the black people? Were the
black we not our kids? And being black, Skain.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
I was like, yeah, I just go out there and
be on my black sicandos. No, I'm I really and
and I thank you for saying me. But it's not
just me. It's like I got to say, it's the
three of us. It's it's it's it's Morgana, It's get go,
Like like without them, it just wouldn't it wouldn't be
what it is without the community. But no, I'm LA's dope.
(51:04):
Bay Area is dope, Further South is dope. I mean,
I'm I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
I'm for it.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
I'm for it, like really creating spaces for our people
to have breakthroughs and to begin or whatever point of
their journey they're at at censoring their joy and their pleasure.
Speaker 6 (51:23):
You know, Well, thank you for just trusting us and
including us in collaboration like this, and just our tribe too,
because I think there was a time where we were
hesitant about participating in this way because it's just like
we're moms, our kids, We're already doing a lot. We're
already doing a lot, but it makes perfect sense. And
(51:44):
we are about, you know, play and exploring the pleasure
and giving people permission and reminding them that they don't
need permission. So it makes sense. But I think that
just seeing how you move and seeing like the beautiful
space and community that you've built has really like you know,
I wouldn't wouldn't do with anybody else.
Speaker 1 (52:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
That's as.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
Mumbled mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Let's get an outro from y'all before we get out
of here. I'm gonna where where can the people find y'all?
Individually and together?
Speaker 7 (52:17):
You can find us on all podcast platforms Good Mom's
Bad Choices. You can find us on Instagram at Good
Mom's Underscore Bad Choices. Make sure you check out our website,
Good momsad Choices dot com.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
You can check out where we're what.
Speaker 7 (52:29):
Cities we're coming to next on our tour, our retreats,
which we do them in Costa Rica, and we actually
have one coming up in Atlanta. It's our first in
state retreat. To make sure you check out the Good
Vibe Retreat. You can find me at watch Erica.
Speaker 6 (52:46):
And I'm Mela with an h underscore map with two p's, and.
Speaker 3 (52:50):
You can find both of them at Good Mom's Bad Choices.
We are going to bring y'all a lot of things.
We'll bring you a party, We'll bring you activation kings.
I don't know if we're gonna have the chiropractice, but
we're gonna bring something good for your body.
Speaker 5 (53:06):
Requirement. And I don't I mean to realign me now.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah, but honestly, honestly, honestly, the Kinks, the dancing, the music,
the colors. We never really talked about the vibe and
the curation of like the space itself. But Luis Geko
or Morgana are really good with creating environment, not just
with people, but just like lights, aesthetic and everything.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I can't wait to hit l A again. Double n Tandra.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
You know clever Man.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am Orlando aka Orlando Orlando.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
My beautiful co host here with is Luscious Beard.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Brooklyn Lou aka a well known time Yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
We we are lifts to lifestyle conversations, the lifestyle from
the lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Peace La la la a lah. Like this
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