June 18, 2025 • 62 mins
In this heartfelt episode of Lupus Has No Face Podcast, host Savannah Burks sits down with the incredibly talented and resilient singer-songwriter, Mr. Garrison. From his journey starting as a street performer in California to navigating the ups and downs of a musical career, Garrison shares his story of perseverance, authenticity, and healing through music.
Discover how his struggles—from loss to battling the odds—fuel the soulful sound that captured Savannah’s attention. They dive into the power of music as a form of therapy, how setbacks shape success, and the importance of staying true to your unique voice. Whether you're an aspiring artist or someone facing life's challenges, this episode offers inspiration to keep pushing forward, embracing your gifts, and never giving up on your dreams.
Tune in for an authentic, empowering conversation that reminds us all—your face may be unseen, but your voice is loud and powerful.
Thank you for tuning in to "Lupus Has No Face," a podcast dedicated to sharing real stories and insights on living with Lupus and other invisible illnesses. Join your host, Savannah Burks, as she explores the struggles and triumphs of individuals navigating their health journeys, all while juggling life's many challenges. Don't miss an episode! Subscribe, listen, and share on all major podcast platforms. For more content and updates, follow us on social media and join the conversation.
Discover how his struggles—from loss to battling the odds—fuel the soulful sound that captured Savannah’s attention. They dive into the power of music as a form of therapy, how setbacks shape success, and the importance of staying true to your unique voice. Whether you're an aspiring artist or someone facing life's challenges, this episode offers inspiration to keep pushing forward, embracing your gifts, and never giving up on your dreams.
Tune in for an authentic, empowering conversation that reminds us all—your face may be unseen, but your voice is loud and powerful.
Thank you for tuning in to "Lupus Has No Face," a podcast dedicated to sharing real stories and insights on living with Lupus and other invisible illnesses. Join your host, Savannah Burks, as she explores the struggles and triumphs of individuals navigating their health journeys, all while juggling life's many challenges. Don't miss an episode! Subscribe, listen, and share on all major podcast platforms. For more content and updates, follow us on social media and join the conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hello, Thank you for tuning in to another wonderful episode
of Lucas Has snow Faced Podcast with your hosts Savannah
and our special guest, mister Garrison.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Doing great? Happy to be here. Thank you so much
for getting me on.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You are so you are so welcome, But it was
a need that I had you on after what I saw.
So before we actually jump into that, I want to
say thank you to everyone that have.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Idea what is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was really struggling today whether if I should do
a podcasts or not, and my therapist and amongst other
people told me to go about my life as usual
because it will help me navigate the sadness sort of
(02:20):
unexpected that I'm dealing with with my mother.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So I decided to do this. And so.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're further ado. Who is mister Garrison? Who who is who?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Who is mister Garrison?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh, it's funny that you say mister Garrison because I
don't know if you know this, but it's a it's
a character from South Park that a lot of people
are like an old character and he's not a great character.
But but anyways, I just want to get that out
there because I have a feeling people in the comments
are gonna are gonna think it or say so so.
But I am a singer, songwriter musician from California, Santa Rosa, California,
(03:07):
to be specific. I've been writing songs and playing guitar
and playing piano for about fifteen years now, since I
was like fourteen or fifteen, done a lot of street performing,
which which is where we met, you know, in Milwaukee.
But that's how I got my start. When I was
about fourteen years old, I took a guitar out there
(03:30):
acoustic with a friend of mine, I think he was
on Shaker, and we went out to a grocery store
right down the street called Oliver's Market. Shout out to
Oliver's Market, and we yeah in Santa Rosa, California. I
just pulled up there for.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
About an hour and a half and.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We had a lot of really cool interactions with people.
I saw quite a few people from my high school.
They were walking by, like with their parents, and they
were super excited to see.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Me, and they're they're just all like.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Very you know, just encouraging and we made I think
we made like forty bucks between the two of us
and for fourteen year old kids.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, back in like two thousand and eight, two
thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That that was you know, that was awesome, And that
was kind of my start, I getting out there and
having people hear me sing and play guitar and you
know give me words, you know, say say kind things
about my singing and playing, even like when I was
just starting was I think that was the first real
(04:36):
spark that I got that I've continued to run with
for you know, fifteen more years now.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, for those that do not know, we will be
discussing beyond the note cavitating his sound his is you? Yeah,
Like when I seen you, I was I was far
away and I heard the sound. I'm like your voice,
the voice, and then I went to continue to do
what I was doing and I'm like you were still
(05:06):
there and I'm like, i gotta go say some to Sam.
Like your voice was so soothing, tone was so soothing.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm just like, you sound really really good.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I had to have you on the show because
music actually heals and get you.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Through a lot, especially when you're dealing.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
With Yeah, for me, especially when you're dealing with a
chronic illness or chronic pain and or grieving.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It gets you through those things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I had the opportunity to listen to some of
your songs and I'm just like wow. And then when
I listen, you text me and said, you guys signed.
So I am so happy. I'm so happy for you.
(05:56):
Tell tell, tell me a little bit about that. How
did that happen?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, I think it might have been a miscommunication. I'm
not you know, I'm not signed like by a record label.
I got some great opportunities in Nashville and I'm working
with you know, some I'm working with some people that
are signed to Sony and you know, things like that.
But but yeah, so I being signed basically, and this
(06:22):
is a good Honestly, this is a really good, I
think bit of information to tell the listeners. So, like,
what is being signed, you know, and what is like
getting a record deal? There are a couple of different
types of deals you can get. You can get something
called a publishing deal, which you know, I'm not even
one hundred percent clear on all the specifics of the deals,
(06:42):
but publishing has to do with like writing. So from
what I understand, a publishing house like B M I
or ASCAP these are kind of copyright songwriting you know businesses,
and they'll there's a whole bunch of different ways they
can do it. They cant you some money and you know,
want a percentage of the songs that you write and
(07:05):
put out.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They can they can give you a.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Deal where you have to put a certain amount of
songs out per month, you know, they like per you know, year,
per whatever period. So there's a publishing deal. There's also
there are actual record deals where they can give you,
you know, an advance.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They call it, you know, you get a you get
an advance for like you know, it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Can be any anywhere from five grand to fifty grand
to five hundred grand.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And then they.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Are basically almost always they're wanting a large portion of
your music. Masters. The masters are kind of I believe,
the you know, top of the I guess ladder, like
the bulk of your the rights to your recordings. But
they can also want percentages of your live shows, you know,
(07:55):
your Instagram stuff. And then this one's really really important
for the list. It's called a three sixty deal and
three sixty like the name suggests, full circle, you know,
basically the whole thing you want to you want to.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Stay away from three sixty deals.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They were giving them out a lot in the kind
of mid two thousands, you know, twenty tens, two thousands,
and probably before that too, And basically you kind of
sign away everything when you sign a three sixty deal.
So if you see those three digits in the fine
print of the contract, have have a lawyer look at it,
and more than likely you might want to run the
(08:34):
opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That is some good piece of information because what I
want to know is, I'm sure a lot of people
don't know where a lot of people do know. But
for me having my own podcast, I get flagged.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I get flagged so a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Percentage and they take a majority of the funds that
is that I'm making because of a sound that I
don't have rights to.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So do you know anything about that?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like for the people that's having like podcasting and things
like that, what do you suggest for the beats?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I should say yes, yeah, So I believe there's a
category of UH tracks called royalty free, royalty free music,
royalty free songs, and there may be another term for that,
but basically it means like public public use, like nobody's
gonna be chasing after you for a check.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, if you use it or you're not, You're
not going to find yourself like in a lawsuit or
you know, in trouble. And there there are quite a few,
uh like, royalty free songs out there, like even on Instagram,
like when i'm you know, when you can pick like
the background music, there's a if you tack royalty free.
I hope I'm getting those those two words right. You
(10:00):
basically means public access. I'm pretty sure it's royalty free.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You do you type that in?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There's there's a lot of music I've never had a
problem finding like cool songs that are you know, guaranteed
two that I'm guaranteed to have no problems using them
as much as I want. I believe even for profit.
That part I'm not one hundred per cent sure about.
But I'm pretty I'm pretty sure like royalty free means
royalty free. You can just use them for whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh that is pretty dope.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So what if you blow up off of somebody's a
royalty free song?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Can they later come back? Can you can you buy
the rights to that because it's royalty free.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Man, I mean almost always, I'm you know, I I
can basically tell you from like, you know, some experiences
that I've had, like buying beats and like inquiring with
producers about buying beats lifetime licenses, you know, and eclusive
(11:00):
they call them exclusive license licenses.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
So that's basically it's only yours.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They can't the producer can't sell it to you and
then sell it to a hundred other people, so you
have like the same track as all those people.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I'm you.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Know, usually the case will be for the right number.
Anything is for you know, for sale, and it doesn't
have to be like an astronomical number, just like you know,
some people it's like you know, some people it's like
a grand or five hundred bucks or whatever, and it's like, shoot,
you know, that's more than I've ever seen for this
royalty free track that I put up.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
So it's yours. You know, A five hundred bucks is
better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
So but yeah, like almost always, I mean, if you
have you know, if you have something blow.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Up and you're using somebody's track.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If you you would probably you know, get into a
conversation with them, communicate, communicate with them like that, you know,
which they probably would already be they'd probably be already
aware of, you know, any virality that's happened with something
that they made.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's usually it's them reaching out to you, you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Know, because producers are try and get paid and they
don't get paid very much. So yeah, but like you know,
you just you just work work out some sort of
contract and agreement with them. And again you would be
looking for an exclusive license, exclusive like lifetime license, so
it's like yours only for you, and you know, and
(12:27):
you want to make sure that it's not like capped
on amount of plays, amount of us up to a
certain amount of money made, because that's a lot of
Almost always in the contracts with producers is they'll you know,
they'll sell you a license, even.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like if you're a rapper like I wrap.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I wrap also, so I've looked at a bunch of
hip hop beats and I've bought licenses for beats and
they'll they'll be like, yeah, we'll sell you this beat
for forty bucks up and you can make you know,
it's good for up to one hundred thousand plays and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Good for you making maybe five thousand dollars on it,
and then it goes back to them, you know, so
they yeah, that's a lot. It is, It is, it is,
that is a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, thank you for the information.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm sure someone is gonna watch this show and you're
gonna give them some information that they did not know
that would be useful to them. So I appreciate that.
So sure, Yeah, so let's jump into it. If I'm
not mistaken. The Latest Bloomer is that's your favorite song?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well, Latest Bloomer, know the just Latest Bloomer is the
EP title. My favorite song on there would be I'm
yours spelled yours is spelled u r s just to
kind of take it away from Jason maraz Land and
uh so yeah, but uh you know, EP name is
late Latest Bloomer and favorite my favorite track would be
(14:05):
I'm yours on it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, can you tell us about the inspiration behind your
EP Latest Bloomer and how does this reflect your personal
journey in music?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So Latest Bloomer is because I feel I feel like
I'm a late Bloomer and to go a couple of
steps further, like the Latest Bloomer, like man, I've just
I've put a lot of work in since I was
like fourteen. I've been street performing on just about every
corner back home, every you know bar you could play,
every winery you could play, you know. I've I've called them,
(14:42):
cold call them sometimes multiple times, dropped off business cards,
and I've really like paid my dues. And also I
was writing music. I think actually, uh the name uh
a lot of a lot of the name comes from me,
just like writing music and producing and recording. For man,
(15:04):
it's like about seven years and never releasing anything on
streaming services. I had I probably had like forty fifty songs,
you know, maybe more written like full songs, and then
probably like twenty to thirty recorded, you know, and most
(15:24):
of them were full, but definitely like chorus, like verse,
like enough to you know, put out there. And yeah,
I just it wasn't It wasn't me not believing in
the music. It wasn't me I don't think, like, you know,
not like being being scared to release it. It was
more that I just didn't have an interest in I
(15:45):
didn't want to put it out like I didn't want
to I didn't want to put it out until it
was up to a certain standard, and I you know, personally,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't see a problem with it. I don't regret it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But yeah, that's so, that's where the latest bloomer comes from.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now, I might be stretching a little bit. Is there
any way that we can hear what that sounds like?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What do you mean like singing?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, if you want some acapella, I'll do that. I'll
do the chorus of I'm yours.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Okay, you got some nerves singing those three words. Now
you better mean there's no use and believe in unless
you put me first. I got the best thing this
you found. I've never told you before, but I still
feel like I'm yours.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Listen, whether you did it Arcupeller or not, I felt
those words you have.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I love your voice like I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Feel it only here. Thank you voices, you know what
I mean? Like you have one of those soul voices.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Mm hmm, I've got great to hear it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Don't ever stop because it's something amazing there.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Wow, that's really really kind of you to say I'm
gonna take those words of heart.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes, like, and I'm not just saying it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If I could have just closed my eyes and continue
to listen to you sing. I would have just had
you continue to sing like that sounds so good.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Defining your sound, right, you described your sound as captivating
and unique. How would you define the essence of your
music and what elements do you think set you apart
from other artists?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
These are awesome questions.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I uh so, I think I think that everybody has
their own unique story to tell, right, Like humans are
like snowflakes, because snowflakes are you know, there's no one
stufflick that's like the other one, like they all have
a different pattern. And human beings like I don't know
if you knew this, but scientifically there's no I believe
(18:10):
set of fingerprints, a thumbprint that is identical. There's like
billions of billions with a bee like no, I don't
know what we're at now, nine billion, ten billion, you know,
and no, there's right trill like we're up there and
there's no there has been no repeated fingerprints like that
is so I think that's so cool. And human beings,
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you know, that's just one aspect of us that's totally unique.
Then you throw our personalities like you know, how we
look like. You might meet somebody that you know is
the doppelganger of another person, like, oh, that person looks
like this person, but they're not exactly like them.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You know, everybody is is original, and I, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The music is like that also, So my own story
is definitely just like anybody else's story if they just
kind of tell it, you know, like chapter for chapter,
and in music, you're.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like putting it to poetry.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're putting your story to rhyme and melody with you know,
maybe some like little uh poetic liberties here and there
to you know, make it rhyme better or to make
it more interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But yeah, so that definitely, like my story is unique.
And also.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think, man, I've lived a lot of life. Everybody's
been through things.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like you were just.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Talking about you were you were, you know, going through
some real stuff you you texted me about, you know
before this, and like, you know, so everybody goes through things.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I, you know, I lost.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
My dad, dad about uh like a year ago now,
just about my father and I are were like, thank
you for saying that he had a long life. He
was an amazing dude and he actually had cancer. He
had terminal cancer. He had multiple types. I think he started.
The first type of cancer he got was when I
(20:05):
was fourteen years old, about fourteen or fifteen, and.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He was fighting that and he ended up beating that.
And then around.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Twenty two years old, twenty two, twenty three, he got
this type of cancer called mantle cell amphoma.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's a cancer of the blood. And they actually gave
him a clock on his life. They said that he
had three years to live, and he ended up beating that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So, you know, I say all that to say that,
you know, I've seen a lot of life and you know,
even like, you know, when I was growing up and stuff,
like parents got divorced when I was six and it
was real messy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
My mom moved like multiple states.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Away to Idaho, and she's an amazing person, but it
was just a very you know, it was I've seen
some things I've gone through. I'd gone through pain at
an early age and seen the pain of like my parents.
And you know, my dad had like a crazy life too.
He grew up in the projects actually in Milwaukee. He
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you know, he had a single, single mom and they
just you know, he had been around the block, he
had a lot of experience.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's very rough around the edges, dude, And.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So that comes out in the music also, you know,
and I also I struggled with you know, I struggled
with smoking a bunch of marijuana when I was younger,
you know, when I was thirteen fourteen in California. That
was you know, that was like an everyday thing for me.
I was drinking too. I've struggled with, you know, having
(21:38):
substances you know, affect my life super negatively and take
me places I never thought i'd go.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And that comes out in the music too. You know,
that's real pain.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And I feel like a lot of people out there
could relate to that because you know, that's that's a
very common thing, you know, So.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Thank you for sharing it, because music like so.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's really kind of like what separates you from different
artists is what you went through. You just different and
you poured all that and you mixed it in a
bowl and you cavitated your sound basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I definitely felt what you were saying about your your dad.
(22:25):
If you haven't did your research already, which I know
that you have, I have loopus as to why this
podcast exists, and I just really bring awareness to the
world with just having different conversations with different type of people.
That's ultimately bringing the invisibilit the invisible illnesses back to
(22:46):
all issues like we're not just in a boat. We
can live life. We not are diagnosis, were not our problems.
You wasn't your substance of Bruce. You went through You
got through it and you just artists amazing person and
I'm sure or that it's something else that you know
would come that would be obstacles. But because you dealt
with a lot of things in your life, you'll be
(23:07):
more smooth with with're dealing with it, you know what
I'm saying, You'll have more of a better stable mindset
to deal with it as then before.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So your journey in music has been anything but traditional
for sure. Could you share some moments that shaped your
path and what motivated you to stay true to your
authentic vision despite the obstacles.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, So, you know, music has just it's kind of
called for me since I was young.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Like my dad.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't know if I mentioned this, but my dad
was a violentist and singer. He was he was a
professional for many years in like the seventies and eighties,
he was in bands and he uh, he was a
professional until the day he passed away.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
He was doing like weddings. We actually played music together,
so there was always like a guitar in the house,
piano in the house.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
My uncle, you know, who was actually no longer with
us also he he and my dad, they were brothers.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They were the only siblings for both of each other.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And they passed away within I think four months of
each other.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Just about so uh he.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
But but I say that to say my uncle was
an incredible singer songwriter named Jeffrey cron Uh you know,
shout out to jeff cron Man.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He was just like the funniest dude.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And he would show me, like, you know, awesome bands
like uh you know, Phil, and musicians like Phil Collins.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And he showed me Stevie ray Vaughn, this awesome guitar player.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And just like tons of you know, killer you know,
bits of culture that he you know that that's played
a huge role in me continuing on and never giving up.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But yeah, on the on the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Point of music calling to me, like it's it's hard
to explain, but when you find something that you love
of and it goes like beyond love, like you just
you it's it's your element, you know. You when I
was like thirteen fourteen, it actually started to really kind
of feel like my element. I just there's nothing like it.
(25:40):
All of a sudden, for you know, three four minutes,
while I was playing a song or listening to a song,
all the problems in the world went away, all the
trauma from.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The past disappeared, and I was I.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Was just able to be completely present, completely at peace.
And music is the only thing that did that for me,
you know what I mean. Like I said, I tried cigarettes,
I tried pot, tried alcohol, relationships, unhealthy relationships and all that,
and music was the like the real deal is the
only thing that really did it, and you know, and
made me a better person, you know, and and you know, made.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Me think about things clearly.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And and and also people along the way, Like literally,
as I was telling you that story, when I was
busting at fourteen years old thirteen, people would stop and
they'd say, you know, encouraging things and that those kind
of things like have also added to me continuing on
(26:39):
and keep and helping keep me going. You know, it's
not all people say weird stuff too. People say negative
things too, as you know, like there's a you know,
there's a whole Yeah, there's you know, especially like playing
on the street. You're you're it's open season, you know,
so people there are drawn in there walking.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
By like, eh, hey.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know this one guy actually on that note, a
little funny side story, I think I was like fifteen
or sixteen, and this guy came up to me and
said hey.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He was a older guy and he got real close
to me. He's like, hey, I'll give you ten bucks
if you stop playing.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
He said, I'll give you ten I'll throw a.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Ten to stop playing, and I went, you can give
me ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Shout out to me. This is actually what I said.
I said, you can give me ten bucks, but I'm
gonna keep playing.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And other people around me like after he left, you know,
I think they tipped me more. It actually worked in
my favorite butt. So not to get off off track,
but you know, the people along the way, whether it's
something they say or something they do, you know, tipping
me or writing me a note. I've had people write
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me really really kind notes that I kept in my
case for a long time, or draw pictures of me,
hand me their art. So all those things have, uh,
you know, have helped me keep going and not give up.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
How did you feel when when he was so nasty?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It hurts just like anything, you know, it's like a gut,
you know, I think in the brain where its have
it's kind of like you get physically hit. You know,
it's a it's a physical pain that you feel from words,
sometimes even worse than you know, actually physically getting hit.
So I felt bad immediately, like a cut. But then
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then I you know, I had to reach into my
self belief. I had to dig deep and think about,
you know, all the things that I had gone through
to get to that point. He wasn't I don't that
might have been like the first memorable thing. But people
had kicked me out, people had you know, thought I
was homeless or called me homeless, you know, playing on
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the street before that. So I had built up some
thick skin up to then. But yeah, you know, it's
like I think, you know, anybody that says like, ah,
I don't like, I don't care. You know, it doesn't
hurt me, it doesn't affect me. I honestly think they're
just like putting on the front. I think you know,
negative words like hurt, they're not fun to hear if
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you you know, if you don't feel the hurt, maybe
you're just totally numb or you're you know, all sorts
of mixed up.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Uh. But you know so, but but you can feel
the hurt and then you know, choot. Then it's up
to you if you.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Let it, you know, take you out, uh and and
knock you off, knock you off track, make you lose
focus or not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Most definitely, I think it get easier over time. People
that do say words words don't hurt, but words do hurt.
I think for me, yeah, I know myself so well
to where if anybody is being nasty or have been
that or whatever the case may be, it is kind
of like how you treat someone else is the.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Reflection of you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's super true.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, So people that's being nasty, you just got to
find a different way to look at it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So because I have that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Understanding, like, if you want to be nasty, that's how
you think of yourself. So I don't even you know,
project respond or anything of that, because that person needs
more help than what they're trying to you know, give
off to make fun gossa.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's really good. That's so true. I love this quote.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Where it's like, you'll never hear something negative or nasty
from somebody doing better than you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You'll never, You'll never, You'll never hear it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Everybody that says something negative or nasty is doing worse.
And then you know, every everybody likes to throw stones,
you know when when you're you know, doing well, or
when they see success or they see somebody doing something
that they wish they did.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So yeah, I love that quote.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, that that that is definitely true, and that brings
me to like for grieving. So it's as emotional expressions
and relief. Music can cultivate feelings you might struggle to express.
Sad songs or lyrics that resonate with your loss can
help you cry or feel deeply, which is a part
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of healthy grieving. So I say that because you talked
about your father and I'm going through it with my mother.
People a lot of people resonate grief with anger and negativity,
but it's a healthy way to grieve, you know what
I mean. And it takes a strong person to be
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able to acknowledge that and to grieve properly.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So for me today.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Some people will probably say, which I won't hear that,
Oh she's doing a podcast, but she's supposed to be
hurting or grieving, and it's like this is therapy for me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Like you should never.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Have to explain yourself to someone that's not understanding or
that's not in your shoes at that very moment.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, So the only thing matters is me because I
understand what I am going through, and then the people
that are surround you is going to respect it and
support it, and those that are not, you just leave
them where they're at.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That's that's good. Yeah, And yeah, you know, I think
everybody's different. Everybody processes grief differently. Some people, you know,
being by themselves has you know, positive effects. Some people
being by themselves or doing nothing is the opposite of
what they need to do. And it's that's one hundred
percent up to the person going through it, you know.
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So yeah, I'm with you on.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So resilience thoughts and setbacks, right, can you elaborate on
some of the setbacks you faced during your journey and
what valuable lessons did you learn from those experiences.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, man, there have been so many setbacks. I think,
let's see, let's like kind of rewind to one of
the biggest ones. Well, I think, well, as a musician,
as a creative, you run into points where music or
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your art is.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Not paying all your bills, and you know, that's a
big that's a big setback.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You go out there and people are looking at you,
like your family is looking at you like are you
going to get a job, Like what are you doing?
You know the you know wake up, you know dreamer,
and you know that has happened many, many, many many
times for me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I think, you know, it's hard to remember I've quit jobs.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And you know, with the goal of pursuing music full time,
I'm probably like four or five different times and had
to come back to work, you know, and it's not
a good not a good feeling. Sometimes I made it
six months. Another time I think I made it a
year and a half. But yeah, since I was like
eighteen or nineteen, you.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Know, I would have the.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Division for my music career and people would you know,
be starting to book me for gigs and pay me
pretty well, and some some people would tell me like, hey,
like you should pursue this full time, and I'd do
it and all of a sudden the gigs would dry
up or you know, I would you know, I'd have
to move into like a I remember this, you know.
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A couple of times rent was my rent was increased,
you know, I had to pay more, My bills were higher,
and I just couldn't keep up with the art, and.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So that was you know, those are those are some
setbacks for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And man, I think also to be honest with you, like, yeah,
there's a there's a point where you it the belief
in yourself you know, can can waver and flicker, and
you know it can decrease. I think I'm not afraid
(35:18):
to say that That's happened to me multiple times in
my life, you know, because it's hard. This world is difficult,
and people are you know, pretty cold a lot of times,
you know, especially when it comes to art. The arts,
people want to take advantage of you. Also as an artist,
I've had many many people try to not try to
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you know, do overwork me and underpay me, underrate me,
you know, and they and.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And underestimate me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And you know that's like that's something that's happened the
whole journey is people that are booking me or whatever,
They're like, yeah, you know, I don't you know, they
wouldn't want to pay me fairly at all, or they
wouldn't you know, they wouldn't listen to me when I
was offering to pay to play for free one hundred percent,
Like most times when I would pitch people back home
(36:13):
and here I walk in, I'm like, hey, I have
my own setup, I have examples of my music. If
you want to hear it, I will. It'll literally cost
you zero dollars and zero cents. You know, I'll play
for tips. That would be cool. But even if you
don't want me to play for tips, I just I'm
looking for somewhere to play, and like, no exaggeration, eighty
percent ninety percent of places would you.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Like, you know, maybe email us, you know, or no,
we're not interested.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And I'm like, I'm I'm doing all the work, I'm
taking all the risks and probably being pretty stupid by
you know, undervaluing myself just for the sake of like
opportunity or somewhere you know, secure, you know, indoors that
I could play.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But it's all that stuff that's all been pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Oh my god, I literally sympathized with you. What I
will say is never give up. Because you just sat
on this platform and said you wrote so many songs
and who you played with and what you've done and
what you did, and I've heard you like your voice
is amazing. I know those times can feel defeated and
(37:19):
you can feel like you know what am I doing
this for? But if you truly believe in yourself, I
just feel like sometimes maybe going back to the drawing
board and seeing what you could have done different, or
the contracts that you do have on have contracts before
you start playing, and knowing your worth, and it takes
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you to honestly know your worth. Me being in business myself,
I've gotta played before and I didn't know. I will
say the second year being in business, I was able
to pick and choose what I wanted to do. I
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was able to say no no matter if it sounded good,
if I thought it was gonna land me in a
good position at that very moment.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I'm more so looking for.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Loyalty, respect, value in me, partnership, collaboration, the energy of
somebody and if that's not fitting into my morals and values,
I won't do it, and you will be surprised when
you turn down those and start going with your heart
and what you truly believe in. What doors were really open,
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Because the nose is what actually really make you. But
it only takes a one or two yes is to
really actually make it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's so that's so real and so good.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You hear that from so many successful people in you know,
take your pick of the industry music, movies, entertainment, business.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Like the nose are what make you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The nose or what you know, prepare you and make you,
you know, uh, stoke that fire in you. If it
wasn't you know, if it was all yes is all
the time, it's it's like, uh, you know, another favorite
quote of mine, smooth seas never made a skillful sailor, right.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Smooth, smooth smooth seas, smooth.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Sailor never made a skillful sailor or captain. And it's
the same with us. Like if if it was all
yeses and it was all green lights, like you know
that awesome book by Matthew McConaughey, if it was all
green lights and no reds or yellows, like we would
just we wouldn't be as tough, we wouldn't be as resilient,
we wouldn't be as motivated, we wouldn't be as passionate,
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you know, down to earth and grounded.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So yeah, speaking you're speaking the truth.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
No, and never forget that. Never forget how far you came.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Never forget the accomplishments, whether they was small or big.
And when people people got this line, don't never forget
where you came from. Where you came from doesn't define
who you are at this moment, where you're going. I
just feel like that's something to kind of like hang
over your head because some people don't like for people
to grow, and you are put on this earth to grow.
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So don't never give up. And I'm here for it
because when you make it, all those other people that
told you know, and all of those things, watch how
they reach out to you.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
It's gonna be so funny. You just gonna be laughing, right,
You're gonna have that.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I've had I've had little I've had little examples of that.
And I just wanted to I wanted to put on
my shades to feel cool, you know, I got I
got some pretty cool sunglasses and I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I wanted to do that, but I look nice. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I wanted to cool it up a little bit, shove
it up. But you're you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I've had some examples of that and experiences on a
small scale even so I can like I can actually
kind of imagine and you know, put together what it
is like or what it must be like on the
big scales.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Like I've had a song go to radio. There was
a song I wrote with a guy, Brandon Moser. Shout
out to Brandon Moser MSCR. He's a great singer songwriter
from California, and we were in a band called Almost Angels,
and we wrote a song about the fires, the California
fires that were going on, and anyways, it got it
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cut on I don't know, like twenty radio stations, and
it was playing in like Washington, in different states and people,
you know, we did like an interview on ABC. I
think this is probably when I was like twenty four,
twenty five, twenty four, and I had even even on
like you know, getting on local radio and getting on
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a couple you know, news stations. People were reaching out
to me and you know that never cared before, you know,
or we're never like particularly nice to me, and they
were like, all of a sudden nice to me, and uh,
you know similar thing. You know, I've had like some
successful times in my life where I you know, had
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a little bit of money, driving a nice car and
stuff like that, and all of a sudden, people's people's
tunes were you know, we're changing, and uh so I've
you're you're you're right. If it's happening on a small
scale like that, it's it's that times, like you know,
it's that multiplied on a larger scale.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And that's why you got to know who you are
and you got to always be trit yourself and you know,
you can get all the nice things, but make sure
you keep the people that has always been authentic because.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's a different type of heart.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Before we go to the next question, I like my
guests to read eat the comments. Tom, can you put
some of the comments on the screen so he can
read them. Hey, Jesse, Hi, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So you can read. Yeah, you want to read that one?
You want to?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, Jesse, what's up? Bro? Thank you for for shunting
in you want you want me to read it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Or tone you okay? I hate Jesse. Okay, okay, Jesse
Jones said.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Jesse Jones said, I hate when people say negative things
without reason, and it's true and it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Happens at me too, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
That's for you.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I just I just lost you a little bit. I
think maybe there's some internet stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Oh that's the next comment. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, I can hear you, but there's like there's a
little bit of a delay. Okay, I see the next comment.
Now are we can you hear me now?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yes, yes, okay, Yeah, there's a little bit of some latency,
but we'll try to work with it. I'll do my best.
I have full WiFi over here, I think. But so,
Jesse said, second comment. Yeah, you gotta stay focused no
matter what the situation is. It's true, you know, can't
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let anybody knock you off course negative feedback just you know,
goofy people saying and doing goofy stuff, which is like
a large large portion of the population out there.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
So you're right on about that, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Being consistent and persistence so hard. But you've got to
continue to do it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I hear that consistency. Yep.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
We got the third comment up there from Jesse.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Do you want to read it or do you want
me to keep going?
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You to keep going?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, Jesse. Jesse Jones says music is therapeutic.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I listened to music all day during my healing process.
I love that and they have well, first of all,
that's what I described when I was about thirteen fourteen,
Right for those three or four minutes of a song,
there's you know, all the hurt, all the trauma, all
the pressures of the day or pressures of the past
(45:51):
are not there anymore and it's just song, melody, you know,
an awesome voice and it is That's what drew me
to music, and I think that at its core, you know,
there's a there's you know, there's a lot of quotes
about music being for the broken, for the for the hopeless.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Art.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
You know, art is to soothe the hopeless, the broken
and the lost and to comfort them.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
And that's literally what happened to me.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's that is what set me on this journey because
it was like, whoa, if if this can happen to me,
maybe I can be a vehicle for this to happen
to other people. Maybe I can be you know, maybe
I can be opening that door, playing playing some sort
of part in the healing and the therapy of and
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the comfort of of of someone else, just like it
did for me. And sure enough, that's like the coolest
thing in the world. Like you were saying, you know,
when I was singing like it was soothing and it
was calming. I love to hear that because that is
the that's that's one of the main reasons why I
do it. That's what music does for me. And if
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it's able to do that for other people through me,
that's uh, you know that that that is a major
win in my book.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah, for sure, music music for me.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Music will change my whole tune, change my attitude.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Music will get me through.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
As far as memory and meaning right, memory and meaning,
Certain songs ties to the person or time you lost
can invoke memories while helping you process your relationship and
keep their memory alive. I've experienced that creating rituals right.
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Playing a certain song on an anniversary or at a
specific time can create mean for rituals that support healing.
Music is just so deep, you know what I mean,
It's so much history behind music.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
And it.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Definitely gets you through and even to take a step
father right for chronic pain, because being a warrior and
having lupids and having fibrobiologia, there's chronic pain that comes back.
So as far as distracting and focus shift right, music
can redirect your attention away from the pain while acting
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as a form of distraction which can decrease the intensity
of a pain that definitely worries. A lot of people
don't understand or know about that. Physical relaxation, slow smoothing
music can lower heart rate, blood pressure, muscle tension, all
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of which can ease the physical symptoms of pain. So
music is so broad it could be used on so
many different specials. It's not even funny.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's so true.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I want to I want to throw one of my
favorite kind of like science factoids out there. Also, well,
they've done studies on elderly people suffering with dementia or
early onset dementia right losing their memories. When they play music,
their brain, certain parts of their brain just light up
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like a Christmas tree, and it's it's you know, noted
many many, many times. I think it was like this
for my grandma Also she was older and she had
dementia as she was about ninety two or ninety three,
when I would play guitar for her to kind of
like help calm her down or you know, she was
a singer. Also, she would she would be present. She
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would all of a sudden light up and she would
just be there. She would they would be like talking
on my grandma, you know, Dory Crone. She I physically,
you know, firsthand, I saw music, uh be able to
just cut through dementia.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
And that's they've done. They've done scientific studies and it's.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Like, uh, it's physically like when they're looking at the brain.
When they're looking at the brain, it brings them back
and it activates parts of parts of the brain like
nothing like nothing else.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Can because it really actually do something for future projects.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
What's next for you after latest Bloomer or are there
particular themes or sounds you're excited to explore into your
future work?
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yes, And I just wanted to say, also, I took
the sunglasses off because I couldn't I couldn't see much,
and I don't know, I think it's uh, I got
my cool little you know, twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Or whatever, that was, so we got both sides.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
They're dark.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I just want to I just want I.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Just want to next. You know, beauty is pain and
you know all that.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But I you know, I want to be able to
see and I want to be able to like, you know,
connect connect with you so and have people be able
to like, you know, see my eyes and whatnot. So,
uh yeah, future projects I have. I have a lot
of songs written. I'm writing all the time, you know,
so I wrote. I think since I've been to Nashville,
I've written like two or three songs co written on
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some people's tracks and so, but I.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Think the next I think the next.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Goal is putting out probably another EP, doing like uh,
you know, an EP is a an ep here an
LP is you know, it's like a small album for
anybody out there that doesn't know. I think LP stands
for like limited production. EP stands for like some you know,
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some other thing that starts with an E production. But
small album, usually between four and eight songs, I believe.
And so yeah, I want to do some like I
want to do some like country music, like you know,
kind of raw acoustic stuff, some some folk and some
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like acoustic guitar, you know, bassed stuff, some piano also,
and uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I'm shooting you know this CP was four songs. I'm
shooting for seven.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I like the number seven, so I'm shooting for seven
a seven song ep Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Well, you definitely could do seven songs. It's definitely and
you you definitely have it. I'm here for it. You
gotta promise me one thing though, when you drop that EP,
L P got to release it on here. I gotta
be the first platform to give it out to the
world for the exclusive.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, you got it. I will send it to you.
Uh yeah, I I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Because this is honestly, I've done some I've did did
some radio stuff back home when I was like, you know,
twenty three or twenty four. But it's been a really
long time since I, you know, had somebody recognize, you know,
my music, the quality of it, you know, all the
work that I put into singing.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
And you got it. You'll be You'll be the first one.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yes, make sure you stay in such to me.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
When I when I I didn't even see you, I
heard it.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Like?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
It just drew me and I had to It was
a pulling ton Like I'm like, I'm going over here.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
He's just gonna have to shoot me down, but I'm
going over here.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Wow, that's amazing. That is that?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That that is Uh, that's incredible. You know that means
to me, that means I'm tapping into something real. I'm
tapping into the real deal. Uh, because I you know,
I do feel like when we're playing music like people
some people call it like channeling. Some people call it,
you know, tapping into something or something else is coming
through us and speaking.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And I honestly it kind of feels like that.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
It kind of feels like, you know, when I'm really
in the zone and I'm really just you know, feeling it.
For me, it comes it comes from somewhere else, and
it comes from a higher you know, a place. So
I'm I'm really I'm glad to hear that. That means,
like I said, that means I'm I'm on the right track.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
And again, if I can just pound the city lt
your head. Do not stop because all these artists that
come out, all of these label designers, some people don't
make it a today, forty fifty years old. You know
what I'm saying, Never stop because you're gonna keep working
hard and you're gonna be so consistent, and you're gonna
craft your art to no point in no return. You're
gonna wake up one day and it's gonna be like
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you're gonna be living your dream.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Mmm, thank you so much for saying that. That's you got.
I'm never i am never gonna give up and.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Uh, I'm more, I'm more, uh you know, determined to
not do that now now that you you said those
kind of words.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
So no, not for real and if you need some
words of encouragements, you got my number. And not to
be taken up too much of your time. Last but
not least some closing thoughts. So is there one message
or take away you hope listeners gain from your music
and your journey?
Speaker 4 (55:38):
What would it be?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yeah, I would say there there's everybody on this earth
was you know, made to do something. Everyone has a destiny,
everybody has a gift. Music is cool and celebrated and whatnot.
But there are all sorts of different gifts. There's there
(56:02):
are gifts.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Of you know, being mechanically savvy.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Being able to build things, engineering, there's uh, you know,
gifts of uh like people who aren't good literally good
at math, or good at sports, whatever the thing is.
You know, you I think life really starts to open
up to you and starts to feel full and meaningful
(56:26):
when you you really, you know, take that journey of
self discovery and and also believe that you know, you
have a gift that's that's incredibly valuable. You know, even
if it's not music, or even if it's not you
know this, that and the other thing, engineering or you
know what, maybe some like more celebrated you know, industries
(56:51):
in the world, like try and try and figure out
what your gift is and work on it. Don't let anybody,
you know, knock you off course or chip away your
at your self belief. And there will be many points
along the journey that are scary. There are leaps of
faith that you have to take with music, like you know,
(57:13):
quitting a job, leaving job security and you know, depending
only depending on yourself and your art two to feed you,
you know, to cloth you to pay for your rent
is very scary.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's like it's like really really really scary, and.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Most most people are too afraid to do it, or
they're too afraid to do it one hundred percent you know,
they'll go, ah, like, I'll try this, I'll dip my
toes in the water. I would encourage you, obviously, don't
be stupid, you know, don't be delusional and be like,
all right, I'm gonna be a professional rapper, professional guitar player,
like you know, a year into it. I didn't do
that until you know, seven or eight years of doing music.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
And you know that.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
But yeah, like, uh, don't don't be afraid to take
that leap of faith, because I took it. I've taken
it many many times.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Even coming to.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Nashville up here was a leap of faith. And on
the other side of that leap of faith is your
destiny and and is a lot of rewards, a lot
of great rewards for stepping out, you know, and and
doing doing the scary thing face in your ear like that.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Most definitely, that was a lot that was very much needed.
To say thank you for that. And I also would
just like to say time words to you and to
to our audience. Success is pain. Success is pain, and
success is hard. And when he feels that you are
(58:50):
ready for success, he gives you that it's things that
you have to go through in order to sustain to
get the success, and to sustain success. You don't just
want to get successful, you want to sustain and you
want to grow into abundance so you can put.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Other people with you. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
And if it was easy for it, everybody will have
it and obtain it.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
So a lot of people look at success like it's
just this beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's beautiful, but.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It comes with its own sets of problems, you know,
and you you really mentally have to be right, You
really have to meet mentally ready for that. You got
to have the people around that that that you trust
and because it's supposed to reap the benefits of it,
to to to give it out, to to have abundance.
(59:40):
So yeah, just remember like if it was easy to
have everybody be able to attain it, don't stop bortered
doing and hope is not that like just to touch
real quickly on it. What was task on face was
nothing of mine. That was everything from this man above.
(01:00:00):
My industry was beauty, beauty and fashion. And when I
tell you, there was times I didn't know where the
funds was coming from for the events that I was
throwing and I once quit.
Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
But when it's for you. It's for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
He made it happen every time, and it was beautiful
every time, and it was on time every time.
Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
So you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You know, you're a way that you may want to
go to get to what you want may not be
the way that you need to take, and it's okay.
He may need to take you this way before you
get to the other side. So having that open mind
and having that discernment. So before I'll let you go,
where can people find your music at? And where can
(01:00:42):
people tap into you? What platforms are you on? You
wanna We're gonna tell them. We're gonna put him below,
So you want to say where they can find you
at and where they can find your music?
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Yeah, do you want do you want to meet it
type of below or are you guys gonna do that?
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
All right, I'm gonna have do what ton Town is
gonna do. I just want you to burbally say it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
So it's I Am Garrison, I A M, G A
R R I S O N on Instagram. No numbers
or symbols or anything, no underscore, just I Am Garrison
with two hours and the Instagram has a link in
the bio to the Spotify where you can stream latest
bloomer and uh. The Spotify name is also I am Garrison.
(01:01:26):
So if you go on Spotify, type of that same
uh name on there and that should get you to
my page.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
It has like a little uh picture with a red rose.
You know that's the one. Uh, that's the right one.
So yeah, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So much for being my special guest today. I do
look forward to bring you back on here. I do
want to keep up with you as to what is
going on in Nashville. You guys, please follow him. It
is free to support. Follow, listen to the song and share.
Please go support this young man. His music is beautiful.
So you can catch us every Wednesday at six thirty
(01:02:06):
on all platforms. Until next time, have a great one.
Do not you don't go yet, you don't go.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hello, Thank you for tuning in to another wonderful episode
of Lucas Has snow Faced Podcast with your hosts Savannah
and our special guest, mister Garrison.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Doing great? Happy to be here. Thank you so much
for getting me on.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You are so you are so welcome, But it was
a need that I had you on after what I saw.
So before we actually jump into that, I want to
say thank you to everyone that have.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Idea what is going on.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was really struggling today whether if I should do
a podcasts or not, and my therapist and amongst other
people told me to go about my life as usual
because it will help me navigate the sadness sort of
(02:20):
unexpected that I'm dealing with with my mother.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
So I decided to do this. And so.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're further ado. Who is mister Garrison? Who who is who?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Who is mister Garrison?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh, it's funny that you say mister Garrison because I
don't know if you know this, but it's a it's
a character from South Park that a lot of people
are like an old character and he's not a great character.
But but anyways, I just want to get that out
there because I have a feeling people in the comments
are gonna are gonna think it or say so so.
But I am a singer, songwriter musician from California, Santa Rosa, California,
(03:07):
to be specific. I've been writing songs and playing guitar
and playing piano for about fifteen years now, since I
was like fourteen or fifteen, done a lot of street performing,
which which is where we met, you know, in Milwaukee.
But that's how I got my start. When I was
about fourteen years old, I took a guitar out there
(03:30):
acoustic with a friend of mine, I think he was
on Shaker, and we went out to a grocery store
right down the street called Oliver's Market. Shout out to
Oliver's Market, and we yeah in Santa Rosa, California. I
just pulled up there for.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
About an hour and a half and.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
We had a lot of really cool interactions with people.
I saw quite a few people from my high school.
They were walking by, like with their parents, and they
were super excited to see.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Me, and they're they're just all like.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Very you know, just encouraging and we made I think
we made like forty bucks between the two of us
and for fourteen year old kids.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You know, back in like two thousand and eight, two
thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That that was you know, that was awesome, And that
was kind of my start, I getting out there and
having people hear me sing and play guitar and you
know give me words, you know, say say kind things
about my singing and playing, even like when I was
just starting was I think that was the first real
(04:36):
spark that I got that I've continued to run with
for you know, fifteen more years now.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, for those that do not know, we will be
discussing beyond the note cavitating his sound his is you? Yeah,
Like when I seen you, I was I was far
away and I heard the sound. I'm like your voice,
the voice, and then I went to continue to do
what I was doing and I'm like you were still
(05:06):
there and I'm like, i gotta go say some to Sam.
Like your voice was so soothing, tone was so soothing.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I'm just like, you sound really really good.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So I had to have you on the show because
music actually heals and get you.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Through a lot, especially when you're dealing.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
With Yeah, for me, especially when you're dealing with a
chronic illness or chronic pain and or grieving.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It gets you through those things.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
And I had the opportunity to listen to some of
your songs and I'm just like wow. And then when
I listen, you text me and said, you guys signed.
So I am so happy. I'm so happy for you.
(05:56):
Tell tell, tell me a little bit about that. How
did that happen?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, I think it might have been a miscommunication. I'm
not you know, I'm not signed like by a record label.
I got some great opportunities in Nashville and I'm working
with you know, some I'm working with some people that
are signed to Sony and you know, things like that.
But but yeah, so I being signed basically, and this
(06:22):
is a good Honestly, this is a really good, I
think bit of information to tell the listeners. So, like,
what is being signed, you know, and what is like
getting a record deal? There are a couple of different
types of deals you can get. You can get something
called a publishing deal, which you know, I'm not even
one hundred percent clear on all the specifics of the deals,
(06:42):
but publishing has to do with like writing. So from
what I understand, a publishing house like B M I
or ASCAP these are kind of copyright songwriting you know businesses,
and they'll there's a whole bunch of different ways they
can do it. They cant you some money and you know,
want a percentage of the songs that you write and
(07:05):
put out.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
They can they can give you a.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Deal where you have to put a certain amount of
songs out per month, you know, they like per you know, year,
per whatever period. So there's a publishing deal. There's also
there are actual record deals where they can give you,
you know, an advance.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
They call it, you know, you get a you get
an advance for like you know, it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Can be any anywhere from five grand to fifty grand
to five hundred grand.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
And then they.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Are basically almost always they're wanting a large portion of
your music. Masters. The masters are kind of I believe,
the you know, top of the I guess ladder, like
the bulk of your the rights to your recordings. But
they can also want percentages of your live shows, you know,
(07:55):
your Instagram stuff. And then this one's really really important
for the list. It's called a three sixty deal and
three sixty like the name suggests, full circle, you know,
basically the whole thing you want to you want to.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Stay away from three sixty deals.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They were giving them out a lot in the kind
of mid two thousands, you know, twenty tens, two thousands,
and probably before that too, And basically you kind of
sign away everything when you sign a three sixty deal.
So if you see those three digits in the fine
print of the contract, have have a lawyer look at it,
and more than likely you might want to run the
(08:34):
opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That is some good piece of information because what I
want to know is, I'm sure a lot of people
don't know where a lot of people do know. But
for me having my own podcast, I get flagged.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I get flagged so a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Percentage and they take a majority of the funds that
is that I'm making because of a sound that I
don't have rights to.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So do you know anything about that?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Like for the people that's having like podcasting and things
like that, what do you suggest for the beats?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
I should say yes, yeah, So I believe there's a
category of UH tracks called royalty free, royalty free music,
royalty free songs, and there may be another term for that,
but basically it means like public public use, like nobody's
gonna be chasing after you for a check.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, if you use it or you're not, You're
not going to find yourself like in a lawsuit or
you know, in trouble. And there there are quite a few,
uh like, royalty free songs out there, like even on Instagram,
like when i'm you know, when you can pick like
the background music, there's a if you tack royalty free.
I hope I'm getting those those two words right. You
(10:00):
basically means public access. I'm pretty sure it's royalty free.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You do you type that in?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There's there's a lot of music I've never had a
problem finding like cool songs that are you know, guaranteed
two that I'm guaranteed to have no problems using them
as much as I want. I believe even for profit.
That part I'm not one hundred per cent sure about.
But I'm pretty I'm pretty sure like royalty free means
royalty free. You can just use them for whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh that is pretty dope.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So what if you blow up off of somebody's a
royalty free song?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Can they later come back? Can you can you buy
the rights to that because it's royalty free.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Man, I mean almost always, I'm you know, I I
can basically tell you from like, you know, some experiences
that I've had, like buying beats and like inquiring with
producers about buying beats lifetime licenses, you know, and eclusive
(11:00):
they call them exclusive license licenses.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
So that's basically it's only yours.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
They can't the producer can't sell it to you and
then sell it to a hundred other people, so you
have like the same track as all those people.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I'm you.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Know, usually the case will be for the right number.
Anything is for you know, for sale, and it doesn't
have to be like an astronomical number, just like you know,
some people it's like you know, some people it's like
a grand or five hundred bucks or whatever, and it's like, shoot,
you know, that's more than I've ever seen for this
royalty free track that I put up.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
So it's yours. You know, A five hundred bucks is
better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
So but yeah, like almost always, I mean, if you
have you know, if you have something blow.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Up and you're using somebody's track.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If you you would probably you know, get into a
conversation with them, communicate, communicate with them like that, you know,
which they probably would already be they'd probably be already
aware of, you know, any virality that's happened with something
that they made.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's usually it's them reaching out to you, you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Know, because producers are try and get paid and they
don't get paid very much. So yeah, but like you know,
you just you just work work out some sort of
contract and agreement with them. And again you would be
looking for an exclusive license, exclusive like lifetime license, so
it's like yours only for you, and you know, and
(12:27):
you want to make sure that it's not like capped
on amount of plays, amount of us up to a
certain amount of money made, because that's a lot of
Almost always in the contracts with producers is they'll you know,
they'll sell you a license, even.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like if you're a rapper like I wrap.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I wrap also, so I've looked at a bunch of
hip hop beats and I've bought licenses for beats and
they'll they'll be like, yeah, we'll sell you this beat
for forty bucks up and you can make you know,
it's good for up to one hundred thousand plays and it's.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Good for you making maybe five thousand dollars on it,
and then it goes back to them, you know, so
they yeah, that's a lot. It is, It is, it is,
that is a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, thank you for the information.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I'm sure someone is gonna watch this show and you're
gonna give them some information that they did not know
that would be useful to them. So I appreciate that.
So sure, Yeah, so let's jump into it. If I'm
not mistaken. The Latest Bloomer is that's your favorite song?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well, Latest Bloomer, know the just Latest Bloomer is the
EP title. My favorite song on there would be I'm
yours spelled yours is spelled u r s just to
kind of take it away from Jason maraz Land and
uh so yeah, but uh you know, EP name is
late Latest Bloomer and favorite my favorite track would be
(14:05):
I'm yours on it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, can you tell us about the inspiration behind your
EP Latest Bloomer and how does this reflect your personal
journey in music?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So Latest Bloomer is because I feel I feel like
I'm a late Bloomer and to go a couple of
steps further, like the Latest Bloomer, like man, I've just
I've put a lot of work in since I was
like fourteen. I've been street performing on just about every
corner back home, every you know bar you could play,
every winery you could play, you know. I've I've called them,
(14:42):
cold call them sometimes multiple times, dropped off business cards,
and I've really like paid my dues. And also I
was writing music. I think actually, uh the name uh
a lot of a lot of the name comes from me,
just like writing music and producing and recording. For man,
(15:04):
it's like about seven years and never releasing anything on
streaming services. I had I probably had like forty fifty songs,
you know, maybe more written like full songs, and then
probably like twenty to thirty recorded, you know, and most
(15:24):
of them were full, but definitely like chorus, like verse,
like enough to you know, put out there. And yeah,
I just it wasn't It wasn't me not believing in
the music. It wasn't me I don't think, like, you know,
not like being being scared to release it. It was
more that I just didn't have an interest in I
(15:45):
didn't want to put it out like I didn't want
to I didn't want to put it out until it
was up to a certain standard, and I you know, personally,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't see a problem with it. I don't regret it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But yeah, that's so, that's where the latest bloomer comes from.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Now, I might be stretching a little bit. Is there
any way that we can hear what that sounds like?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What do you mean like singing?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, if you want some acapella, I'll do that. I'll
do the chorus of I'm yours.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Okay, you got some nerves singing those three words. Now
you better mean there's no use and believe in unless
you put me first. I got the best thing this
you found. I've never told you before, but I still
feel like I'm yours.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Listen, whether you did it Arcupeller or not, I felt
those words you have.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I love your voice like I.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Feel it only here. Thank you voices, you know what
I mean? Like you have one of those soul voices.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Mm hmm, I've got great to hear it.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Don't ever stop because it's something amazing there.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Wow, that's really really kind of you to say I'm
gonna take those words of heart.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes, like, and I'm not just saying it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
If I could have just closed my eyes and continue
to listen to you sing. I would have just had
you continue to sing like that sounds so good.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Defining your sound, right, you described your sound as captivating
and unique. How would you define the essence of your
music and what elements do you think set you apart
from other artists?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
These are awesome questions.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I uh so, I think I think that everybody has
their own unique story to tell, right, Like humans are
like snowflakes, because snowflakes are you know, there's no one
stufflick that's like the other one, like they all have
a different pattern. And human beings like I don't know
if you knew this, but scientifically there's no I believe
(18:10):
set of fingerprints, a thumbprint that is identical. There's like
billions of billions with a bee like no, I don't
know what we're at now, nine billion, ten billion, you know,
and no, there's right trill like we're up there and
there's no there has been no repeated fingerprints like that
is so I think that's so cool. And human beings,
(18:33):
you know, that's just one aspect of us that's totally unique.
Then you throw our personalities like you know, how we
look like. You might meet somebody that you know is
the doppelganger of another person, like, oh, that person looks
like this person, but they're not exactly like them.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
You know, everybody is is original, and I, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
The music is like that also, So my own story
is definitely just like anybody else's story if they just
kind of tell it, you know, like chapter for chapter,
and in music, you're.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like putting it to poetry.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You're putting your story to rhyme and melody with you know,
maybe some like little uh poetic liberties here and there
to you know, make it rhyme better or to make
it more interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But yeah, so that definitely, like my story is unique.
And also.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think, man, I've lived a lot of life. Everybody's
been through things.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Like you were just.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Talking about you were you were, you know, going through
some real stuff you you texted me about, you know
before this, and like, you know, so everybody goes through things.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I, you know, I lost.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
My dad, dad about uh like a year ago now,
just about my father and I are were like, thank
you for saying that he had a long life. He
was an amazing dude and he actually had cancer. He
had terminal cancer. He had multiple types. I think he started.
The first type of cancer he got was when I
(20:05):
was fourteen years old, about fourteen or fifteen, and.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
He was fighting that and he ended up beating that.
And then around.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Twenty two years old, twenty two, twenty three, he got
this type of cancer called mantle cell amphoma.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It's a cancer of the blood. And they actually gave
him a clock on his life. They said that he
had three years to live, and he ended up beating that.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
So, you know, I say all that to say that,
you know, I've seen a lot of life and you know,
even like, you know, when I was growing up and stuff,
like parents got divorced when I was six and it
was real messy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
My mom moved like multiple states.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Away to Idaho, and she's an amazing person, but it
was just a very you know, it was I've seen
some things I've gone through. I'd gone through pain at
an early age and seen the pain of like my parents.
And you know, my dad had like a crazy life too.
He grew up in the projects actually in Milwaukee. He
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you know, he had a single, single mom and they
just you know, he had been around the block, he
had a lot of experience.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
It's very rough around the edges, dude, And.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So that comes out in the music also, you know,
and I also I struggled with you know, I struggled
with smoking a bunch of marijuana when I was younger,
you know, when I was thirteen fourteen in California. That
was you know, that was like an everyday thing for me.
I was drinking too. I've struggled with, you know, having
(21:38):
substances you know, affect my life super negatively and take
me places I never thought i'd go.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And that comes out in the music too. You know,
that's real pain.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
And I feel like a lot of people out there
could relate to that because you know, that's that's a
very common thing, you know, So.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Thank you for sharing it, because music like so.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's really kind of like what separates you from different
artists is what you went through. You just different and
you poured all that and you mixed it in a
bowl and you cavitated your sound basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I definitely felt what you were saying about your your dad.
(22:25):
If you haven't did your research already, which I know
that you have, I have loopus as to why this
podcast exists, and I just really bring awareness to the
world with just having different conversations with different type of people.
That's ultimately bringing the invisibilit the invisible illnesses back to
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all issues like we're not just in a boat. We
can live life. We not are diagnosis, were not our problems.
You wasn't your substance of Bruce. You went through You
got through it and you just artists amazing person and
I'm sure or that it's something else that you know
would come that would be obstacles. But because you dealt
with a lot of things in your life, you'll be
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more smooth with with're dealing with it, you know what
I'm saying, You'll have more of a better stable mindset
to deal with it as then before.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So your journey in music has been anything but traditional
for sure. Could you share some moments that shaped your
path and what motivated you to stay true to your
authentic vision despite the obstacles.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, So, you know, music has just it's kind of
called for me since I was young.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Like my dad.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't know if I mentioned this, but my dad
was a violentist and singer. He was he was a
professional for many years in like the seventies and eighties,
he was in bands and he uh, he was a
professional until the day he passed away.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
He was doing like weddings. We actually played music together,
so there was always like a guitar in the house,
piano in the house.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
My uncle, you know, who was actually no longer with
us also he he and my dad, they were brothers.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
They were the only siblings for both of each other.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And they passed away within I think four months of
each other.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Just about so uh he.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
But but I say that to say my uncle was
an incredible singer songwriter named Jeffrey cron Uh you know,
shout out to jeff cron Man.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
He was just like the funniest dude.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And he would show me, like, you know, awesome bands
like uh you know, Phil, and musicians like Phil Collins.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And he showed me Stevie ray Vaughn, this awesome guitar player.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
And just like tons of you know, killer you know,
bits of culture that he you know that that's played
a huge role in me continuing on and never giving up.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
But yeah, on the on the.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Point of music calling to me, like it's it's hard
to explain, but when you find something that you love
of and it goes like beyond love, like you just
you it's it's your element, you know. You when I
was like thirteen fourteen, it actually started to really kind
of feel like my element. I just there's nothing like it.
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All of a sudden, for you know, three four minutes,
while I was playing a song or listening to a song,
all the problems in the world went away, all the
trauma from.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The past disappeared, and I was I.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Was just able to be completely present, completely at peace.
And music is the only thing that did that for me,
you know what I mean. Like I said, I tried cigarettes,
I tried pot, tried alcohol, relationships, unhealthy relationships and all that,
and music was the like the real deal is the
only thing that really did it, and you know, and
made me a better person, you know, and and you know, made.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Me think about things clearly.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
And and and also people along the way, Like literally,
as I was telling you that story, when I was
busting at fourteen years old thirteen, people would stop and
they'd say, you know, encouraging things and that those kind
of things like have also added to me continuing on
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and keep and helping keep me going. You know, it's
not all people say weird stuff too. People say negative
things too, as you know, like there's a you know,
there's a whole Yeah, there's you know, especially like playing
on the street. You're you're it's open season, you know,
so people there are drawn in there walking.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
By like, eh, hey.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You know this one guy actually on that note, a
little funny side story, I think I was like fifteen
or sixteen, and this guy came up to me and
said hey.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
He was a older guy and he got real close
to me. He's like, hey, I'll give you ten bucks
if you stop playing.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
He said, I'll give you ten I'll throw a.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Ten to stop playing, and I went, you can give
me ten bucks.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Shout out to me. This is actually what I said.
I said, you can give me ten bucks, but I'm
gonna keep playing.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And other people around me like after he left, you know,
I think they tipped me more. It actually worked in
my favorite butt. So not to get off off track,
but you know, the people along the way, whether it's
something they say or something they do, you know, tipping
me or writing me a note. I've had people write
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me really really kind notes that I kept in my
case for a long time, or draw pictures of me,
hand me their art. So all those things have, uh,
you know, have helped me keep going and not give up.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
How did you feel when when he was so nasty?
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It hurts just like anything, you know, it's like a gut,
you know, I think in the brain where its have
it's kind of like you get physically hit. You know,
it's a it's a physical pain that you feel from words,
sometimes even worse than you know, actually physically getting hit.
So I felt bad immediately, like a cut. But then
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then I you know, I had to reach into my
self belief. I had to dig deep and think about,
you know, all the things that I had gone through
to get to that point. He wasn't I don't that
might have been like the first memorable thing. But people
had kicked me out, people had you know, thought I
was homeless or called me homeless, you know, playing on
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the street before that. So I had built up some
thick skin up to then. But yeah, you know, it's
like I think, you know, anybody that says like, ah,
I don't like, I don't care. You know, it doesn't
hurt me, it doesn't affect me. I honestly think they're
just like putting on the front. I think you know,
negative words like hurt, they're not fun to hear if
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you you know, if you don't feel the hurt, maybe
you're just totally numb or you're you know, all sorts
of mixed up.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Uh. But you know so, but but you can feel
the hurt and then you know, choot. Then it's up
to you if you.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Let it, you know, take you out, uh and and
knock you off, knock you off track, make you lose
focus or not.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Most definitely, I think it get easier over time. People
that do say words words don't hurt, but words do hurt.
I think for me, yeah, I know myself so well
to where if anybody is being nasty or have been
that or whatever the case may be, it is kind
of like how you treat someone else is the.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Reflection of you.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's super true.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, So people that's being nasty, you just got to
find a different way to look at it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
So because I have that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Understanding, like, if you want to be nasty, that's how
you think of yourself. So I don't even you know,
project respond or anything of that, because that person needs
more help than what they're trying to you know, give
off to make fun gossa.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's really good. That's so true. I love this quote.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Where it's like, you'll never hear something negative or nasty
from somebody doing better than you.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
You'll never, You'll never, You'll never hear it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Everybody that says something negative or nasty is doing worse.
And then you know, every everybody likes to throw stones,
you know when when you're you know, doing well, or
when they see success or they see somebody doing something
that they wish they did.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So yeah, I love that quote.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
No, that that that is definitely true, and that brings
me to like for grieving. So it's as emotional expressions
and relief. Music can cultivate feelings you might struggle to express.
Sad songs or lyrics that resonate with your loss can
help you cry or feel deeply, which is a part
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of healthy grieving. So I say that because you talked
about your father and I'm going through it with my mother.
People a lot of people resonate grief with anger and negativity,
but it's a healthy way to grieve, you know what
I mean. And it takes a strong person to be
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able to acknowledge that and to grieve properly.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
So for me today.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Some people will probably say, which I won't hear that,
Oh she's doing a podcast, but she's supposed to be
hurting or grieving, and it's like this is therapy for me,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Like you should never.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Have to explain yourself to someone that's not understanding or
that's not in your shoes at that very moment.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, So the only thing matters is me because I
understand what I am going through, and then the people
that are surround you is going to respect it and
support it, and those that are not, you just leave
them where they're at.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
That's that's good. Yeah, And yeah, you know, I think
everybody's different. Everybody processes grief differently. Some people, you know,
being by themselves has you know, positive effects. Some people
being by themselves or doing nothing is the opposite of
what they need to do. And it's that's one hundred
percent up to the person going through it, you know.
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So yeah, I'm with you on.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So resilience thoughts and setbacks, right, can you elaborate on
some of the setbacks you faced during your journey and
what valuable lessons did you learn from those experiences.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, man, there have been so many setbacks. I think,
let's see, let's like kind of rewind to one of
the biggest ones. Well, I think, well, as a musician,
as a creative, you run into points where music or
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your art is.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Not paying all your bills, and you know, that's a
big that's a big setback.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You go out there and people are looking at you,
like your family is looking at you like are you
going to get a job, Like what are you doing?
You know the you know wake up, you know dreamer,
and you know that has happened many, many, many many
times for me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I think, you know, it's hard to remember I've quit jobs.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
And you know, with the goal of pursuing music full time,
I'm probably like four or five different times and had
to come back to work, you know, and it's not
a good not a good feeling. Sometimes I made it
six months. Another time I think I made it a
year and a half. But yeah, since I was like
eighteen or nineteen, you.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Know, I would have the.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Division for my music career and people would you know,
be starting to book me for gigs and pay me
pretty well, and some some people would tell me like, hey,
like you should pursue this full time, and I'd do
it and all of a sudden the gigs would dry
up or you know, I would you know, I'd have
to move into like a I remember this, you know.
(34:40):
A couple of times rent was my rent was increased,
you know, I had to pay more, My bills were higher,
and I just couldn't keep up with the art, and.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So that was you know, those are those are some
setbacks for sure.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And man, I think also to be honest with you, like, yeah,
there's a there's a point where you it the belief
in yourself you know, can can waver and flicker, and
you know it can decrease. I think I'm not afraid
(35:18):
to say that That's happened to me multiple times in
my life, you know, because it's hard. This world is difficult,
and people are you know, pretty cold a lot of times,
you know, especially when it comes to art. The arts,
people want to take advantage of you. Also as an artist,
I've had many many people try to not try to
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you know, do overwork me and underpay me, underrate me,
you know, and they and.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
And underestimate me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And you know that's like that's something that's happened the
whole journey is people that are booking me or whatever,
They're like, yeah, you know, I don't you know, they
wouldn't want to pay me fairly at all, or they
wouldn't you know, they wouldn't listen to me when I
was offering to pay to play for free one hundred percent,
Like most times when I would pitch people back home
(36:13):
and here I walk in, I'm like, hey, I have
my own setup, I have examples of my music. If
you want to hear it, I will. It'll literally cost
you zero dollars and zero cents. You know, I'll play
for tips. That would be cool. But even if you
don't want me to play for tips, I just I'm
looking for somewhere to play, and like, no exaggeration, eighty
percent ninety percent of places would you.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Like, you know, maybe email us, you know, or no,
we're not interested.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
And I'm like, I'm I'm doing all the work, I'm
taking all the risks and probably being pretty stupid by
you know, undervaluing myself just for the sake of like
opportunity or somewhere you know, secure, you know, indoors that
I could play.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
But it's all that stuff that's all been pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Oh my god, I literally sympathized with you. What I
will say is never give up. Because you just sat
on this platform and said you wrote so many songs
and who you played with and what you've done and
what you did, and I've heard you like your voice
is amazing. I know those times can feel defeated and
(37:19):
you can feel like you know what am I doing
this for? But if you truly believe in yourself, I
just feel like sometimes maybe going back to the drawing
board and seeing what you could have done different, or
the contracts that you do have on have contracts before
you start playing, and knowing your worth, and it takes
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you to honestly know your worth. Me being in business myself,
I've gotta played before and I didn't know. I will
say the second year being in business, I was able
to pick and choose what I wanted to do. I
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was able to say no no matter if it sounded good,
if I thought it was gonna land me in a
good position at that very moment.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I'm more so looking for.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Loyalty, respect, value in me, partnership, collaboration, the energy of
somebody and if that's not fitting into my morals and values,
I won't do it, and you will be surprised when
you turn down those and start going with your heart
and what you truly believe in. What doors were really open,
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Because the nose is what actually really make you. But
it only takes a one or two yes is to
really actually make it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's so that's so real and so good.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You hear that from so many successful people in you know,
take your pick of the industry music, movies, entertainment, business.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Like the nose are what make you.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The nose or what you know, prepare you and make you,
you know, uh, stoke that fire in you. If it
wasn't you know, if it was all yes is all
the time, it's it's like, uh, you know, another favorite
quote of mine, smooth seas never made a skillful sailor, right.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Smooth, smooth smooth seas, smooth.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Sailor never made a skillful sailor or captain. And it's
the same with us. Like if if it was all
yeses and it was all green lights, like you know
that awesome book by Matthew McConaughey, if it was all
green lights and no reds or yellows, like we would
just we wouldn't be as tough, we wouldn't be as resilient,
we wouldn't be as motivated, we wouldn't be as passionate,
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you know, down to earth and grounded.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
So yeah, speaking you're speaking the truth.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
No, and never forget that. Never forget how far you came.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Never forget the accomplishments, whether they was small or big.
And when people people got this line, don't never forget
where you came from. Where you came from doesn't define
who you are at this moment, where you're going. I
just feel like that's something to kind of like hang
over your head because some people don't like for people
to grow, and you are put on this earth to grow.
(40:22):
So don't never give up. And I'm here for it
because when you make it, all those other people that
told you know, and all of those things, watch how
they reach out to you.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
It's gonna be so funny. You just gonna be laughing, right,
You're gonna have that.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
I've had I've had little I've had little examples of that.
And I just wanted to I wanted to put on
my shades to feel cool, you know, I got I
got some pretty cool sunglasses and I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I wanted to do that, but I look nice. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
I wanted to cool it up a little bit, shove
it up. But you're you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I've had some examples of that and experiences on a
small scale even so I can like I can actually
kind of imagine and you know, put together what it
is like or what it must be like on the
big scales.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Like I've had a song go to radio. There was
a song I wrote with a guy, Brandon Moser. Shout
out to Brandon Moser MSCR. He's a great singer songwriter
from California, and we were in a band called Almost Angels,
and we wrote a song about the fires, the California
fires that were going on, and anyways, it got it
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cut on I don't know, like twenty radio stations, and
it was playing in like Washington, in different states and people,
you know, we did like an interview on ABC. I
think this is probably when I was like twenty four,
twenty five, twenty four, and I had even even on
like you know, getting on local radio and getting on
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a couple you know, news stations. People were reaching out
to me and you know that never cared before, you know,
or we're never like particularly nice to me, and they
were like, all of a sudden nice to me, and uh,
you know similar thing. You know, I've had like some
successful times in my life where I you know, had
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a little bit of money, driving a nice car and
stuff like that, and all of a sudden, people's people's
tunes were you know, we're changing, and uh so I've
you're you're you're right. If it's happening on a small
scale like that, it's it's that times, like you know,
it's that multiplied on a larger scale.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And that's why you got to know who you are
and you got to always be trit yourself and you know,
you can get all the nice things, but make sure
you keep the people that has always been authentic because.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's a different type of heart.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Before we go to the next question, I like my
guests to read eat the comments. Tom, can you put
some of the comments on the screen so he can
read them. Hey, Jesse, Hi, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So you can read. Yeah, you want to read that one?
You want to?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Yeah, Jesse, what's up? Bro? Thank you for for shunting
in you want you want me to read it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Or tone you okay? I hate Jesse. Okay, okay, Jesse
Jones said.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Jesse Jones said, I hate when people say negative things
without reason, and it's true and it.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Happens at me too, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
That's for you.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
I just I just lost you a little bit. I
think maybe there's some internet stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Oh that's the next comment. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Oh, I can hear you, but there's like there's a
little bit of a delay. Okay, I see the next comment.
Now are we can you hear me now?
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yes, yes, okay, Yeah, there's a little bit of some latency,
but we'll try to work with it. I'll do my best.
I have full WiFi over here, I think. But so,
Jesse said, second comment. Yeah, you gotta stay focused no
matter what the situation is. It's true, you know, can't
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let anybody knock you off course negative feedback just you know,
goofy people saying and doing goofy stuff, which is like
a large large portion of the population out there.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
So you're right on about that, Jesse.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Being consistent and persistence so hard. But you've got to
continue to do it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I hear that consistency. Yep.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
We got the third comment up there from Jesse.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
Do you want to read it or do you want
me to keep going?
Speaker 4 (45:21):
You to keep going?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Okay, Jesse. Jesse Jones says music is therapeutic.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
I listened to music all day during my healing process.
I love that and they have well, first of all,
that's what I described when I was about thirteen fourteen,
Right for those three or four minutes of a song,
there's you know, all the hurt, all the trauma, all
the pressures of the day or pressures of the past
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are not there anymore and it's just song, melody, you know,
an awesome voice and it is That's what drew me
to music, and I think that at its core, you know,
there's a there's you know, there's a lot of quotes
about music being for the broken, for the for the hopeless.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Art.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
You know, art is to soothe the hopeless, the broken
and the lost and to comfort them.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
And that's literally what happened to me.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's that is what set me on this journey because
it was like, whoa, if if this can happen to me,
maybe I can be a vehicle for this to happen
to other people. Maybe I can be you know, maybe
I can be opening that door, playing playing some sort
of part in the healing and the therapy of and
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the comfort of of of someone else, just like it
did for me. And sure enough, that's like the coolest
thing in the world. Like you were saying, you know,
when I was singing like it was soothing and it
was calming. I love to hear that because that is
the that's that's one of the main reasons why I
do it. That's what music does for me. And if
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it's able to do that for other people through me,
that's uh, you know that that that is a major
win in my book.
Speaker 4 (47:17):
Yeah, for sure, music music for me.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Music will change my whole tune, change my attitude.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
Music will get me through.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
As far as memory and meaning right, memory and meaning,
Certain songs ties to the person or time you lost
can invoke memories while helping you process your relationship and
keep their memory alive. I've experienced that creating rituals right.
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Playing a certain song on an anniversary or at a
specific time can create mean for rituals that support healing.
Music is just so deep, you know what I mean,
It's so much history behind music.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
And it.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Definitely gets you through and even to take a step
father right for chronic pain, because being a warrior and
having lupids and having fibrobiologia, there's chronic pain that comes back.
So as far as distracting and focus shift right, music
can redirect your attention away from the pain while acting
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as a form of distraction which can decrease the intensity
of a pain that definitely worries. A lot of people
don't understand or know about that. Physical relaxation, slow smoothing
music can lower heart rate, blood pressure, muscle tension, all
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of which can ease the physical symptoms of pain. So
music is so broad it could be used on so
many different specials. It's not even funny.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's so true.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I want to I want to throw one of my
favorite kind of like science factoids out there. Also, well,
they've done studies on elderly people suffering with dementia or
early onset dementia right losing their memories. When they play music,
their brain, certain parts of their brain just light up
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like a Christmas tree, and it's it's you know, noted
many many, many times. I think it was like this
for my grandma Also she was older and she had
dementia as she was about ninety two or ninety three,
when I would play guitar for her to kind of
like help calm her down or you know, she was
a singer. Also, she would she would be present. She
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would all of a sudden light up and she would
just be there. She would they would be like talking
on my grandma, you know, Dory Crone. She I physically,
you know, firsthand, I saw music, uh be able to
just cut through dementia.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
And that's they've done. They've done scientific studies and it's.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
Like, uh, it's physically like when they're looking at the brain.
When they're looking at the brain, it brings them back
and it activates parts of parts of the brain like
nothing like nothing else.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
Can because it really actually do something for future projects.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
What's next for you after latest Bloomer or are there
particular themes or sounds you're excited to explore into your
future work?
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Yes, And I just wanted to say, also, I took
the sunglasses off because I couldn't I couldn't see much,
and I don't know, I think it's uh, I got
my cool little you know, twenty minutes.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
Or whatever, that was, so we got both sides.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
They're dark.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I just want to I just want I.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Just want to next. You know, beauty is pain and
you know all that.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
But I you know, I want to be able to
see and I want to be able to like, you know,
connect connect with you so and have people be able
to like, you know, see my eyes and whatnot. So,
uh yeah, future projects I have. I have a lot
of songs written. I'm writing all the time, you know,
so I wrote. I think since I've been to Nashville,
I've written like two or three songs co written on
(51:46):
some people's tracks and so, but I.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Think the next I think the next.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Goal is putting out probably another EP, doing like uh,
you know, an EP is a an ep here an
LP is you know, it's like a small album for
anybody out there that doesn't know. I think LP stands
for like limited production. EP stands for like some you know,
(52:12):
some other thing that starts with an E production. But
small album, usually between four and eight songs, I believe.
And so yeah, I want to do some like I
want to do some like country music, like you know,
kind of raw acoustic stuff, some some folk and some
(52:32):
like acoustic guitar, you know, bassed stuff, some piano also,
and uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
I'm shooting you know this CP was four songs. I'm
shooting for seven.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I like the number seven, so I'm shooting for seven
a seven song ep Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:48):
Well, you definitely could do seven songs. It's definitely and
you you definitely have it. I'm here for it. You
gotta promise me one thing though, when you drop that EP,
L P got to release it on here. I gotta
be the first platform to give it out to the
world for the exclusive.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, you got it. I will send it to you.
Uh yeah, I I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
Because this is honestly, I've done some I've did did
some radio stuff back home when I was like, you know,
twenty three or twenty four. But it's been a really
long time since I, you know, had somebody recognize, you know,
my music, the quality of it, you know, all the
work that I put into singing.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
And you got it. You'll be You'll be the first one.
Speaker 4 (53:37):
Yes, make sure you stay in such to me.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
When I when I I didn't even see you, I
heard it.
Speaker 4 (53:41):
I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Like?
Speaker 2 (53:44):
It just drew me and I had to It was
a pulling ton Like I'm like, I'm going over here.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
He's just gonna have to shoot me down, but I'm
going over here.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Wow, that's amazing. That is that?
Speaker 3 (53:58):
That that is Uh, that's incredible. You know that means
to me, that means I'm tapping into something real. I'm
tapping into the real deal. Uh, because I you know,
I do feel like when we're playing music like people
some people call it like channeling. Some people call it,
you know, tapping into something or something else is coming
through us and speaking.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
And I honestly it kind of feels like that.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
It kind of feels like, you know, when I'm really
in the zone and I'm really just you know, feeling it.
For me, it comes it comes from somewhere else, and
it comes from a higher you know, a place. So
I'm I'm really I'm glad to hear that. That means,
like I said, that means I'm I'm on the right track.
Speaker 4 (54:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
And again, if I can just pound the city lt
your head. Do not stop because all these artists that
come out, all of these label designers, some people don't
make it a today, forty fifty years old. You know
what I'm saying, Never stop because you're gonna keep working
hard and you're gonna be so consistent, and you're gonna
craft your art to no point in no return. You're
gonna wake up one day and it's gonna be like
(55:00):
you're gonna be living your dream.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Mmm, thank you so much for saying that. That's you got.
I'm never i am never gonna give up and.
Speaker 3 (55:09):
Uh, I'm more, I'm more, uh you know, determined to
not do that now now that you you said those
kind of words.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
So no, not for real and if you need some
words of encouragements, you got my number. And not to
be taken up too much of your time. Last but
not least some closing thoughts. So is there one message
or take away you hope listeners gain from your music
and your journey?
Speaker 4 (55:38):
What would it be?
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yeah, I would say there there's everybody on this earth
was you know, made to do something. Everyone has a destiny,
everybody has a gift. Music is cool and celebrated and whatnot.
But there are all sorts of different gifts. There's there
(56:02):
are gifts.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Of you know, being mechanically savvy.
Speaker 3 (56:06):
Being able to build things, engineering, there's uh, you know,
gifts of uh like people who aren't good literally good
at math, or good at sports, whatever the thing is.
You know, you I think life really starts to open
up to you and starts to feel full and meaningful
(56:26):
when you you really, you know, take that journey of
self discovery and and also believe that you know, you
have a gift that's that's incredibly valuable. You know, even
if it's not music, or even if it's not you
know this, that and the other thing, engineering or you
know what, maybe some like more celebrated you know, industries
(56:51):
in the world, like try and try and figure out
what your gift is and work on it. Don't let anybody,
you know, knock you off course or chip away your
at your self belief. And there will be many points
along the journey that are scary. There are leaps of
faith that you have to take with music, like you know,
(57:13):
quitting a job, leaving job security and you know, depending
only depending on yourself and your art two to feed you,
you know, to cloth you to pay for your rent
is very scary.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's like it's like really really really scary, and.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Most most people are too afraid to do it, or
they're too afraid to do it one hundred percent you know,
they'll go, ah, like, I'll try this, I'll dip my
toes in the water. I would encourage you, obviously, don't
be stupid, you know, don't be delusional and be like,
all right, I'm gonna be a professional rapper, professional guitar player,
like you know, a year into it. I didn't do
that until you know, seven or eight years of doing music.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
And you know that.
Speaker 3 (57:56):
But yeah, like, uh, don't don't be afraid to take
that leap of faith, because I took it. I've taken
it many many times.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Even coming to.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Nashville up here was a leap of faith. And on
the other side of that leap of faith is your
destiny and and is a lot of rewards, a lot
of great rewards for stepping out, you know, and and
doing doing the scary thing face in your ear like that.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Most definitely, that was a lot that was very much needed.
To say thank you for that. And I also would
just like to say time words to you and to
to our audience. Success is pain. Success is pain, and
success is hard. And when he feels that you are
(58:50):
ready for success, he gives you that it's things that
you have to go through in order to sustain to
get the success, and to sustain success. You don't just
want to get successful, you want to sustain and you
want to grow into abundance so you can put.
Speaker 4 (59:05):
Other people with you. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
And if it was easy for it, everybody will have
it and obtain it.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
So a lot of people look at success like it's
just this beautiful thing.
Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's beautiful, but.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It comes with its own sets of problems, you know,
and you you really mentally have to be right, You
really have to meet mentally ready for that. You got
to have the people around that that that you trust
and because it's supposed to reap the benefits of it,
to to to give it out, to to have abundance.
(59:40):
So yeah, just remember like if it was easy to
have everybody be able to attain it, don't stop bortered
doing and hope is not that like just to touch
real quickly on it. What was task on face was
nothing of mine. That was everything from this man above.
(01:00:00):
My industry was beauty, beauty and fashion. And when I
tell you, there was times I didn't know where the
funds was coming from for the events that I was
throwing and I once quit.
Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
But when it's for you. It's for you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
He made it happen every time, and it was beautiful
every time, and it was on time every time.
Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
So you listen.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
You know, you're a way that you may want to
go to get to what you want may not be
the way that you need to take, and it's okay.
He may need to take you this way before you
get to the other side. So having that open mind
and having that discernment. So before I'll let you go,
where can people find your music at? And where can
(01:00:42):
people tap into you? What platforms are you on? You
wanna We're gonna tell them. We're gonna put him below,
So you want to say where they can find you
at and where they can find your music?
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Yeah, do you want do you want to meet it
type of below or are you guys gonna do that?
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
All right, I'm gonna have do what ton Town is
gonna do. I just want you to burbally say it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
So it's I Am Garrison, I A M, G A
R R I S O N on Instagram. No numbers
or symbols or anything, no underscore, just I Am Garrison
with two hours and the Instagram has a link in
the bio to the Spotify where you can stream latest
bloomer and uh. The Spotify name is also I am Garrison.
(01:01:26):
So if you go on Spotify, type of that same
uh name on there and that should get you to
my page.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
It has like a little uh picture with a red rose.
You know that's the one. Uh, that's the right one.
So yeah, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So much for being my special guest today. I do
look forward to bring you back on here. I do
want to keep up with you as to what is
going on in Nashville. You guys, please follow him. It
is free to support. Follow, listen to the song and share.
Please go support this young man. His music is beautiful.
So you can catch us every Wednesday at six thirty
(01:02:06):
on all platforms. Until next time, have a great one.
Do not you don't go yet, you don't go.
Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah,
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