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April 9, 2025 • 58 mins
Join Savannah Burks, the resilient host of "Lupus Has No Face," in an inspiring episode featuring the incredible Trina Nicole. This week, we delve into the transformative power of yoga for individuals battling lupus and fibromyalgia. Trina, a passionate advocate and yoga instructor, shares her journey and expert insights on adapting yoga practices to manage chronic pain and improve overall well-being. Discover practical tips, gentle flows, and mindful techniques that can help you find strength, flexibility, and peace amidst your health challenges. Whether you're a seasoned yogi or a beginner, this episode offers invaluable support and encouragement for navigating life with chronic illness. Please tune in to empower your mind and body with us.

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Speaker 2 (01:21):
Hello you guys, thank you for tuning in to another
wonderful Wednesday of Lucas Has No Face Podcast with your
host Savannah and our special guests, the Lovely Training.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
The Cold in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Today we got a special guest, you guys. She is
all of the things. But before we get into that,
we will be discussing zen and strength, empowering Lucas and
Favo may Algrah through yoga.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right yep.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
So I know that you probably like, what did that mean?
That was a home mouthful. So for me today listen,
I was trying to share it.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Don't go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, I had a busy day to day. Yes, today
was an off day, Well, it didn't feel like an
off day.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I had an appointment.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I had a prominelogy appointment, so that was dealing with
my breathing so they can make sure everything was going right.
Then I had another appointment, a PT appointment for the
pain that I've been having. Then I had the rush here,
rush here, and then come here and then come here. Yes,
because of all of the things, because of life, life
be life, life. Do be life here, don't stop for nobody,

(02:35):
no lord had.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
So what was your day like today?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So my day already starts getting up, getting kids to school,
and it actually had a facial Yeah. Shout out to
every aesthetics, any aesthetics.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, should be getting me together. So facial. And then
I had clients, and then I came here, do do
do you being an entrepreneur? Full time entrepreneur? Mom? So
you full time? I'm a full time entrepreneur. What does
that look like? Well? You you know you you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
You gotta wear all the hats, so you gotta be advertising, marketing,
do the services, get your clients like, you gotta do everything.
So I actually own the Fly Nail Studio, So I
actually also on Fly Studios, So I actually have suites
that I own and rental.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, yes, a lot of people don't even know that
I did that. So what's the name of that studio again?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So it's Fly Studios. But then I'm Fly Nail Studio okay,
because everything is fly. I listen, I am mad at you.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I love it. Where can they find you at?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Just at the Fly Nail Studio on Instagram and Facebook?
Just look up the Fly Nail Studio. Make sure you
guys check her out. Make sure you guys in jail services.
So I don't do nothing with a clic no more. Okay,
so you you high end that fly girl step you're
looking for regular regular, they're gonna have to step they

(04:01):
game up fly girls only, No, So tell us who
is I love how that just comes together? Like is
that your name name or did you put that together?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's my name, that's my first Well, my name is
ut Trina with the S and then my mid the
name is the co. So I just parents that's that's sexy.
They love, I love and you know, so crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
It's like I've been treating to since Facebook first started.
So I was college, Yes, when you had to have
a college email to go on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I was just talking about that.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So I've literally been treating the code like that's what
everybody knows me that, my my book, everything is under
training the call like that's just my name that rings.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I like. I love.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
It's a little bit like my alter because I feel
like when I show up as like, you know, my
full name like in corporate professionalist, but training the crow
like she flies she you know, it's kind of like
a little.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Pitched you know what I mean, if it's hill, I'm
not mad.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I'm definitely not mad. So you said you are a
full time entrepreneur. Is that hard worse than being an
entrepreneur and holding a nine to five?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yes, because I did that for a while. Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
So I was like working, working and trying to build
my business doing that. But it is hard because you're
responsible for everything. Like with these suites, I had them
built out. It was a twenty thousand dollars project I
did on my own and you know, my girls stuff
listen getting it And like I said, a lot of
people don't even know how I did it because I'm
a very real bosses moving silence type of person.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
You really not gonna ever see me like just I'm
doing this. I'm doing this. You gonna find out about
it eventually.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
But built that out and then, like I said, I'm
in there with my clients and doing my services. I've
been full time now five years, but I still also
on bartender base. I also so also barsaying part time. Yeah,
cause you gotta get to it. You gotta do what
you gotta do. But yes, it's a lot like trying
to like do so much, but also you gotta do

(06:01):
what you gotta do. I don't like having just one
stream of income. So I'm like, okay, well I got renters,
I got my clients, I get this little barts and
the money like coming fromwhere they say what they say, Yeah,
I think every millionaire I got like seven. I believe
like I seven with a magic number.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Good segue into like balance, right because like feeling like
trading too much time for money. So where I'm at
now is Okay, how do I eliminate me having to
actually do these things to make money versus like just
passive income and more.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Book sales and you know, online things. So that's kind
of the space I'm in right now.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's though, because I'm asking because a lot of people
feel like they don't want to work for nobody. Everybody
is not made to be an entrepreneur. And it's okay
if you not are entrepreneurs. Everybody's not made for that.
They're not because it shows up in when you're not
like genuine authentic. I think it shows up in anything
that you do, but especially with entrepreneurship because it's like
like what's your behind doing it? Like is it just

(07:02):
to say I'm a boss, like I'm my own boss?
Are you really trying to build something? We was literally,
I know this is off topic, y'all, We're gonna get
to it, but listen. We we was just having this
conversation yet last night. We was just having this conversation
last night, and we were talking about well, he was
telling me how it's viewed. Right, So like if a
person was doing candles and they didn't want to grow

(07:24):
it past they city and stay. And my question is like,
why why would you build a business to just be
community based? Like the goal is to be global, right
I think. So we was talking about that and a
lot of people are not ready for that as to
why when big projects come they fail or they lose
opportunities because they never thought past what they were already doing.
And so I said, they wasn't thinking big. They was

(07:47):
just thinking like, oh, I want to be an entrepreneur
because they think it's cool. I had a business coach
she let me. So we were having a meeting and
she's like, so tell me, and this is like kind
of when I was just starting.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
She's like, so tell me, Like.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
What's that's a good yearly number for you. I was like, well,
right now with the with the trans and looking at
my sales reports, I mean like sixty k. And she's like, girl,
what She's like, you should have answered that a million,
like you allys got to think big.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I'm like, okay, girl, my bad. Like you know, I'm
looking at the projected trends and looking at my reports
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
I'm like, can you know.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Sixty k will be? She's like, girl, what sixty k?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
So now like when I had that meeting with her,
and I'm like, yeah, okay, since I hear you like, like,
that's not bad, but you should be thinking bigger right.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
On a scale. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So no, that's though, So we're gonna change the dynamics
a little bit. I do see that you have a
book over there. Oh my god, you were all of
the hats, So tell tell me about that.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
What is that? So this is actually the FLY Journal,
the Fearlessly Love Yourself Journal.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
So I kind of turned FLY into an acronym or
fearlessly love yourself, And it's a self.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Love journal that I wrote. It has affirmations.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
So the the goal and kind of the setup of
it is to say, to do, to write, So you're
gonna say your affirmation, you're going to do a self
care activity, and then it's a journal.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Prompt for you to you know like I freaking love that. Yes, so,
and then.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Also slave to day, so it's what you're grateful for
because I'm a very big believer in like anything that
you do, you have to show up with an attitude
of gratitude because that's what the universe is going to
respond to. And then you could track like what you
ate today, did you drink some water, did you exercise?
If you have a daily reflection, how many hours of
sleep this? Well, then you could just like write your

(09:29):
thoughts and then it got like a daily like we'll
do that one saying you deserve love, success and happiness
in your life and you do.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And then like the I'm just random one of the affirmations,
Uh is that mine that you sign out? This was
for you? I'm good?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Uh, Like I will not settle for less than I deserve.
It's like one of the affirmations. So yes, this is
on Amazon, the Fearlessly Love Yourself. I actually came out
with this in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I am going to be utilizing it, and you know what,
i'ma I'm gonna document it. Yes, I'm gonna doculate it.
So all you fly girls, or if you don't think
you fly, but you still fly, go on Amazon and
get you this. Get you this so you can get
your life. That's on there too. So a fly Girl
with fiber, the book and the journal is all on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's on Prime. You get in two days.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Tom, please put that in a comment so they can
go get her book. Put that link in there, most definitely.
So the reason why we hear today fly girl.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
With fibro Ali Brown. Yeah, I wanted you to say it.
I wanted you to say, what is that? So what
a fly girl fiber? So fibrough stands for fibrom my ousia.
So a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's so funny because when people see it, they be like, girl,
I got fibrarys too. I'm like, it's not fibers, which
I mean, it's an invisible illness. It's a chronic pain condition.
So I got diagnosed in twenty sixteen. I was thirty thirty.
Yeah ten almost. I'm thinking about the time, like dang knows,

(11:04):
life is like in time lapse mode right now. Yeah,
so almost ten years ago. So it's a chronic pain condition.
So here's the thing about fibro. It looks different for everybody.
I personally feel like it's a little bit of a blanket.
Diagnosi's just meaning like I think you get to the
point that they kind of can't figure out what's wrong
with you.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So it's like a girl, it's we think you got five.
I got it because they do this like pain trigger.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Tests, right, they test these different like points are your
body and if you react I think twelve or more,
then they're like, Okay, it's most likely fibromyalgia. But it's
like they don't really there. Some some is like, oh,
it's a nerve pain condition. But then it's some of
us like, oh it's inflammatory, but I got I got
tested for all inflammat like arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and it's

(11:48):
like that everything's coming back negative. So it's like, girl,
what is wrong with you? So then my doctor eventually
diagnosed me with fibromyalgia. So with my personal like my
definition of it, it's all the pain, trauma, secrets, it's
everything emotional that we keep held in.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
It has to you have to do something with it.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So to me, it comes out it physically manifests itself
into pain.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Like that's what I really believe.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
How did you that's so beautiful to look at it
that way? How did you come up to form that
into the definition of fibroiology. So in doing my research,
it's like especially just like ten years ago now, right,
so like it was just so much mixed messaging and
definitions and like what this is. But some of it

(12:37):
does say they think it's stems, and it can be
triggered by trauma, it can be stressed induced, which everything
for me is stress induce my migraines, like everything, and
then the symptoms that are associated with viral migraines, headaches, depression, fatigue,
like all of these things.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Right, So I'm just like really like hmm.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
So then it's like, okay, y'all think it's inflammatley, right,
so let me look into what I'm eating what's causing inflammation.
But then on this side you're thinking it's nerve pain.
Well that makes sense because my nervous system is constantly deregulated,
it's constantly out of whack, so it's something going on internally.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
But like, how do I get to what is causing this?

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And that's where I think the doctors be confused, like
we don't know what causes it, but it's here. So
so once I stay and why I believe my theory
to be true. Once I started addressing my mental health,
going to therapy all the trauma, start talking about it,
write about it, which is I can get into, like
how my book even came about talking about it, writing
about it, yoga, starting yoga because I'm like, Okay, now

(13:40):
I need to find something to help me manage the pain.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't want to be on medication. Are you on
any medication? I'm on no medication. I took myself off
all of it. I wean myself.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean I was on Yeah, I was like I'm
not doing this because really like the side effects. I
felt worse, you know, and I got three kids to raise.
I'm like, how else supposed to do this?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I had to like, okay, girl, what is it
that you need? Like what is no shame?

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Because I know a lot of people like no my
kids father, but baby, you had to go. It's probably
gonna get back to him.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
But it's my story, it's my truth, Like what's the
trigger in the stress. So he made that determination off
of that that is that was part of Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
That was part of it because when you were in
something since you was sixteen and it's toxic and if
you don't know no better, and then you messed around
and had kids and it's all the things, this ain't healthy.
Oh why is my nervous system constantly deregulated because of
this man like you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
So that was part of it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Smart part and it really ain't no shade because it's
in my book. So he yeah, he know, like he's
read my book. So it's never like shade to him
because we were both young and you know, we're forty now,
so it's like it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But that was part of it.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
But then address and the trauma, the childhood trauma is
the it was like a dress and all of that
and oh wait.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I'm not in so much pain anymore. I'm starting to
feel better. Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I changed my diet. Oh I'm drinking more water. Oh,
I'm doing yoga. And it's just constantly So I like
it almost like I've kind of proved my theory to
be true.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
That's so dope.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
But to go back to the so how the book
came about so basically fla girl fire roa is I
chronicle my journey through like why I think I developed
this condition?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like what what caused this? What triggered it? So it
was really twenty oh, I can't even remember now, my
so twenty sixteen twenties. My dad was murdered. I'm sorry
to hear that, so thank you. So like that trump
in itself.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
But then it had me going back to now thinking
about stuff that I saw in my childhood, domestic violence,
you know, between my parents, and just just a lot.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And I started writing.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I just started writing out and after my dad was murdered,
I was writing him a letter actually because I'm like
I need to. I'm mad, I'm pissed, like you had
I'm the oldest of twelve kid. You had all these
kids you ain't raised, not none of us, like and
now you're and because you chose to stay in the streets,
now you're gone. You can't even Because my hope was like, well,
maybe he'll be the grandfather that he couldn't be, right,

(16:18):
like he couldn't be a good father.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Maybe it'll be a good grandfather. I don't know, we'll
never know now.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But then it was like so much stuff that I
needed to tell you and wanted to say, and questions
that I had, and I'm never gonna get a chance.
So I started writing, and that's really how my book
was born. People always asked me that, and in this
chapter five Daddy lessons. So my book actually started that
chapter five because I was writing all that out and
then it had me go back and think.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I was like, wait a minute, and it just happened.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
So it wasn't even something I was intending to do,
which is the crazy part, Like I just popped up
with a book. Every like, girl, wait, you wrote a book,
and I'm like, girl, yeah, I've been a writer.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
My whole life.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Thought, so oh my god, I like necessarily a surprise
that I wrote a book, but I think it just
kind of came out of nowhere. He didn't talk about
because again, real boss movies, I tell y'all what I'm doing.
But just know when I pop out with you.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Know atude, she listen, listen. I love you.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I love your attitude. What what caused you to start
looking into going to the doctor? Like, what what did
it look like when you started getting sick? Okay, so
it was just really pain, Like I was just having pain.
It was really bad in my hips and back. And
what I was associated it to was pregnancy. I had
three c sections, I had three spinal taps. So I

(17:28):
was like, well, maybe this is just like a result
of like a left you know, like a symptom of
not symptom, but you know what I'm saying, like after effects,
you know, after the effects of you know, having three
s sections, three spinal taps. But the pain, it's just
like it wouldn't go away. It's like it was everywhere
in my joints, my hips, my back. These migraine I'm

(17:48):
talking when I tell you chronic migraines, like girl, you know,
like where I got FMLA. I'm out multiple days because
my head is just pounding. I'm having an ore or
the nausea, everything that come with chronic migraine. Then my mood,
the fatigue, just all these symptoms. And I'm like this
this does I'm twenty nine to thirty years old, Like

(18:08):
why am I feeling like this? And so the first
doctor and I write about this in my book because
also where we need to be advocates for ourselves, right, Yes,
they were. So the first doctor I had, she kept
saying she's like, well, I there's nothing wrong, so and
I'm like, but there is.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So she's like, well, let's try physical therapy.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So she put me in physical therapy a couple of
times actually, and I'm like, this is not working, like nothing,
it's something else going on.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
But I also feel like when.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
You are a young black woman, we already know how
that go, like the disparities and health care. They're not
listening to us, and then they think that you're medication seeking.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
A lot of them think that.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I'm like and that's not even I'm not even coming
here and asking for jo I'm asking can we figure
out what's wrong so we can address the pain. So
they sent me to physical therapy and it was actually
my physical therapist at the time. He was like, there's
something else going on. I'm like, thank you, yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Somebody was saying documented running out right with a girl.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And she sent me to another doctor. She was like,
I want you to see this doctor. Let's tell him
what's going on. He and I love my he's still
my doctor. Like he's so collaborative and like I literally
can go in there and tell him what I want
to do. He'd like okay, Like cause he don't. I
love that he didn't try to like, he didn't, he
didn't write me off. He was like, let's figure this out.
Let's let's test for arthritis, and did all the tests

(19:27):
that he's okay, So now we're here. Have you ever
heard of fibrom milesia? And I was like no, but
let me figure this, like let me look at him
like and it was almost like a light bulb like Dug,
I'm like, oh my god, this is what I have.
Because it was all the symptoms. Like then he did
the trigger test and I was like, okay, so now
I got fibrom myosa.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
What do that mean? Where do we go from here?
Where do we go from here?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And it's it was really me advocating for myself and
like research and like I said, figuring out, I'm like, okay,
well some stuff says nervous, nervous systems, some stuff said inflammatory,
some stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
But then I also have black and therapist and I told.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Her my diagnosed and she was like yeah, and on
the mental health side, the research that I'm seeing is
this is more.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Mental I was like, proves my theory, right, So I
like it. But it works though, right, you're doing better?
Are you in pain? Like is it mild?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Is it's very mild. Now it's controllable. You can have
a regular normal life. And I've heard stories of people
that's like, Hi, I can't even get out of my bed.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
And the one thing, so I've done so many like
speaking engagements and vending events, and I always because people
come up like, oh my god, I have this, my
auntie has this, My grandma's had this for years and
she being so much pain, Like you're doing so well
with it. And the first thing I always say, have
you experienced trauma? Is your trauma? That's where you need
to start. That's my full belief, Like, that's where you

(20:49):
need to start addressing that. That's for a lot of
things though, you know what I'm saying, like trauma doored
and our gut and our gut women in our wounds,
we carry so much in our wounds space. White people
don't even realize. You don't know until you talk to somebody.
Till you talk to somebody, and we don't have been
not to talk. You don't tell people what's going on
outside your house. You don't tell people what's going on.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's so funny that you say that, right, So like
when I start having kids or whatever, that was a
rule of mind, but goes on it and it was
It wasn't that it was bad. I'm a private person overall,
you know what I mean. So because I'm private, I
want my kids to be private. But I did say
to them like, I don't want anything that's you know,
being mentioned outside of my home.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
But if you feel unsafe and if you have to
get it out, you have Grandma, you have.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I always gave them an outlet if they didn't want
to talk to me, because I know a lot of
kids don't ever have an outlet, and they let it
out in a different type of ways. So I I
kind of twisted it a little bit, you know what
I mean. So for sure, I don't know why, but
you know that I'm just private.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
People just do all of the things. I got crying
for none of that, oh my yead.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Okay, So what special yoga practices or techniques do you
find most beneficial for living with lupus and fibromyology.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yep, so I got into yoga. Shout out to somebody yoga.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Also shout out, I'm ready to try it. The last
time I had okay. The last time I had a
real full class when I was back in college, but
then I tried it again like three years ago.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yoga is hard, No.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think it's worse than working out, but it's it's
very peaceful as a type of yoga. So there's different types, right,
So there's like yasta hata, which I enjoy, yin, gentle restorative,
which is probably so I would say a gentle yin
or restorative is going to probably be the best for
like a fibromyologia loopis inflammation, So for chronic pain suffers

(22:48):
because it's like a gentle slow flow, especially like even
yin and restorative, you're going to be in these poses longer,
whereas like a viganza you up and down, up and down,
which and not in oh nothing about yoga. When I started,
in my head, I was just like, let me try
something because about fire. It's gonna sound so backwards, but
you actually have to stay moving, you do, yeah, because

(23:10):
otherwise you're in like this tense and your muscles are
tense and so you So I had to find I
was like, well, what can I do? Like at the time,
I'm kind of like a gym girly nine gonna lie.
But at the time I talk about it, I'll be
in gym. Girl, I'm surprised with your hair.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
You be in the gym with your hair.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, I just was saying I need like a protective
style because I'd be sweating out there.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
But I'm only like a month into the gym. But
so like when it's all started, I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
That's why I said shout out to somebody, because I
started going to with Joanna and a body yoga and
I'm like, oh way, I kind of like this, but
it was a little much like because I didn't know
what I was like getting into. So now that I know,
it's like but like the Vignasta where it's faster, it's
like up and down up that it might not be
the best way to start, but definitely like just gentle again,
I mean cause it's working on flexibility, it's working on

(23:58):
keeping a muscles stretch. Also, when you think about just
like breath working, how valuable you know, learning how to
work with your breath is just like overall for your
mental emotional like just like I said, flexibility. So yeah,
so I would say anything like a gentle yin or restorative.
It is gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
And you don't even have to do it long, so
like what thirty minutes, hour, thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I mean even if you could do like just to
start and you can just like pull it up on
YouTube like ten minutes of chair they have like Cherir
yoga where you're like just sitting in the chair. You
just gotta keep moving, keep stretching. Then as time you'll
get oh wait a minute, now I'm a little more flexible.
Now you know things are moving and I didn't like go,
so you know, it's a graduates a process. Like that's
dope because you have just only fibermialgia mine starting with

(24:48):
lupids and then fiber mioalogia and.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Ra and all these all these other things. So I know,
like working out is really good for me.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And when I explain to people, like even though I'm
in pain, i can be up and moving a because
that's good for me. But at the moment, my body
is at rest, and people don't understand that for the
life and they were like they just look and I'll
just be like that's how it is, just.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
How it works. It's crazy. It sounds so counterlike I'm
in pain.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
So keep moving, but you got to to increase the
flexibility and the circulation and like I say, keeping your
movement stretching, it's all good. So yeah, but I would
say to start what you want to start slow and
gentle and then you'll eventually work your way up. Okay, okay,
How does yoga help in managing the symptoms associated with

(25:36):
these chronic conditions, both physically and mentally? So definitely, like
I was saying before, increase flexibility, you know, keeping like
even just the blood circulating, keeping you like stretched, but
also the mindfulness, right, like just sitting and still in meditation,
because a lot of practice we start in meditation, so

(25:57):
just thinking about you know, sitting in meditation doing some
breath work. There's things called box breathing, which so it's
like you in hell for four hole for for ex
heal for for rest for four and it's just like
being mindful, just focusing on your breath, like just calm
in your mind, because how many like our brains are
like all day right because you just sit there. I'm
just like and now you're focused on the breath. Now

(26:19):
you got something to focus on. So it's like, I mean,
that does wonders. I've been meditating for I mean pretty
much since I started yoga and meditating. I know people
will get like it's hard to like turn your brain off.
But even if you could just do it for five minutes,
you know, just see how you feel and then you
work it up. You know, it's hard for a lot
of people to even meditate because I know a lot

(26:39):
of people that can't sit still, and people that can't
sit still, they can't sit in their own thoughts because
people be like, why are you in the quiet?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
I like sitting in my own thoughts. Like I feel
like once you.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Face your own thoughts, is easier to maneuver through life, right,
because you can't lot of your you can't a lot
of yourself.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
But that's a dangerous game, right, But you gotta pay
attention to the noise, right. And so I.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Don't think I properly know how to meditate, but I
can sit in quiet for that's for a long time,
and I think people get to get hung up on there.
There's a way to meditate. It's literally just sitting.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And quiet and still. That's literally I meditated.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
But also when you say think like facing your own thoughts,
that's your shadow work. So again, when we're talking about
what's triggering some of this, the pain, the trauma, the secrets,
your shadow work needs to be done so you can
start to heal.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
It all goes together. But I don't know. People got
it like disassociated from each other. But it's all connected
to me. No, it is connected to It is connected.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
And when I can't tell you when and why I
started sitting in silence, but I know like when I'm
quiet and when I'm still, he speaks to me the most,
and so like things that like irritates me or just
getting on a stress on me, I'm like, it makes sense.
I create a plan in my silence, and so I
sit more in silence. One thing when the world is

(28:05):
getting the best of me, But when I'm not so
much in silence, I'm doing great. Yeah, if that makes sense.
So people you know, you gotta take you gotta take
that break. So they have to, Yeah, because it wears
on it like it's everything that's in It definitely needs
to come out.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
It has to.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
But and if it doesn't, what happens You be like
me thirty years old in chronic pain because you ain't
dealt with thirty years work things.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's like holding so what's it gonna do? We gotta
it needs somewhere to go. Yes, whatever that being talking
about it, running yoga, the gym.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Gym, I mean, it's all really just like addressing your mental, emotional,
spiritual health. I'm a very spiritual person about me, so
even like learning about that and like like I said,
attitude of gratitude and even you know, we talk about
like there's such a separation like prayer meditation, But how
I look at it is like we can when we

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pray or I heard when I really love this.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
We prayed, that's when we speaking to God. But when
we meditate, that's when we get the answers. No, I
believe in that.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
So it's like even sitting with that, like okay, what
is it that I need to be doing? And so
it's just it all go together. It didn't stand on that.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Listen, I'll be telling people sometimes people probably be looking
at me like I'm crazy, and I'd just be like,
you gotta allow yourself to do it. And like I said,
I don't know when, but he set me down and
I've been doing it every since. That's crazy, that's beautiful.
What advice would you give to someone who is hesitant
to try yoga due to their pain or fatigue. That's
a struggle on right there. Yeah, so what I was

(29:39):
saying before, just start with a gentle practice.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
You don't have to go in.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yoga can be very intimidated. I get it, cause it's
like so many odesenters, which is all the poses, and
you be looking like you are twisted around. Just start,
you know, you gotta work your way up if that's
what your desire, to work your way up to that.
But just starting slow and gentle, like I said, you
can do are yoga. Yeah, restorative restorative I think will

(30:03):
be a really great start for anybody with pain because
you're usually down on the mat with blankets and blocks
and props, and you're not too much doing up and
down because I know that that could be hard when
you were dealing with pain, Like who wants to keep
getting up, getting down, getting up, so you're kind of
just down, or like if you're just sitting in a chair.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
So don't be intimidated by it. It is intimidating.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
It is when you especially because if you don't know
enough about it right, or if you're thinking of just
sign up for a class, and it kind of is like, okay,
well what's then, y'alls son, what's this?

Speaker 1 (30:34):
It's all different, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
So it can be okay, So you being instructed, right,
So let's just say I came in and I'm stiff.
My bones are just not what they're supposed to be
and I'm struggling. If you see me, would you come
over to help? Or do I have to ask for help? No?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
So every class and teacher is different. I typically.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I probably would just like if I had permission, because
I have to you have to give me permission to
like being your space, that I would ask, you know,
if you need the assist and just assist you. Like,
everybody's different, like how they run their classes. So, and
I'm still a very novice teacher, Like I just became
certified in September, so I've been.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
You did that big one. This is so funny.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I went to Coast, I disappeared to Streaka for three weeks.
That's how I got my and nobuddy he told me
just talking about it. He was like, I just looked
up for you, was in Costreek.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I see you up for three weeks, minding my business. Okay,
fly girls stuff. I can't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I was going except like my fly nail clients because
we had to work out because everybody, you know, they
nail skin.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, my girl when I supposed to on my nails.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I had to get everybody in before I left,
so that everybody was kind of on the same schedule.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I was booked and busy, and then I left for
three weeks.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's where you got heard about that in Costa Rico.
So you were able to work anywhere in the world.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Wow, why did you pick there Costa Rica?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
So I looked into this program that had they were
actually so originally I wanted to go to Bali to
do it, like that was what I really wanted to do.
But I found a program, but I had never been.
I travel solo. I had a problem travel on solo,
but I had never been that far by myself. So
I was like, I don't know if I should go
all the way to Bali quite yet, I don't know
if i'm there. So the program in the school that

(32:27):
I went through, they had offers in Mexico, Peru, Costa Rica.
And the crazy thing about it because if you ask
people that number, they were like she manifested that because
I had already been talking about I want to go
to Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I can't tell you why.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It was just like and then probably within months I
was I'm like, I'm going to go to Costa Rica.
But it wasn't like I was planning to go to
Costa Rica to learn yoga. I was just like, on
my spirit, I'm like, it's something calling me to Costa Rica.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
And people tell you like she manifested that trip because
then the next thing you know, I was going to
Costa Rica for three weeks. That is though, so you
have fun and he was getting educated at the same time.
I ain't gonna really well, yeah, I did have fun,
but it was intense. It was like literally yoga boot camp.
Like we started at five am. Let me when I
tell you I'm not a morning girl. Baby, when I
tell you I'm not a morning girl. And we had

(33:14):
to be up at five a. No, we started at
five am, so you had to be able like at four.
Yeah for me, it was like I'll wake up at
the last minute. But I was there, That's all I matter.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
So what was that like? Give us a little insight
on what that was like, yeah, I mean, it was amazing.
So I went to this.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I was at Montizom in Costa Rica, which is on
like the Pacific side of the country, so it's like
very beach town.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
We were about the ocean at this resort.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
So we wake up at five, we go right into
meditation and we do a ninety minute practice. Then we
break we break for breakfast. All the meals were provided
and was and I was vegetarian for three weeks, which
was amazing. I came back and people was like, oh
my god, you're glowing, and I'm like I really tried
hard to stick to it because it's hard to, like

(34:08):
when somebody making your meals for three weeks and then
come back, it's hard.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
To just jump into that lifestyle, like you can't just
you gotta you know, you got a plan for that.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Did you mention your video when you started eating meat,
Like did you throwing up the stuff?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
I had thrown up, But my stomach was like, girl,
what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Because down there we can only It was vegetarian only water,
no sweets, no sugar, no coffee, no coffee. I don't
drink coffee anyway, but we could have tea. I'm a
tea drinker, so we have tea and water. That was it,
no soda, no alcohol. It was vegetarian and the food
was I didn't think. I was like, oh my god,
what am I gonna eat for three baby? When I
tell you, they was down there throwing down with them

(34:42):
vegetables and it was like costa Rican meals like things
you know, tradition. Yeah, likes lots of like rice and
beans and veggies.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It was yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
So breakfast and then we go back afternoon for I'm
trying to remember because it was in September, like kind
of like bookwork and discussion. Then we break for lunch.
And on lunch it was two hours so I would
take my daily nap, but just here, and then we
go back into Austina Lab, which is that's where we're

(35:15):
learning the poses.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
We learn how to assist.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
We learned how to properly you know Q so if
I'm in the class to be able to tell you
like now you know, raise your right, you know, like
how they direct the class.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
So that was our Austina Lab. Then we go to dinner.
Then we come back.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
So when I tell you, it was five am to
like seven pm. I was in yoga buo camp. I
am not gonna hold you.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Kind of like yo.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Well, like you're entrepreneur, but it don't start that early. Yeah,
life late if you if you not to go. I
don't do nothing before ten am my life. I don't
do nothing to me ten am. The day is over
when I see like today I was when I seen
tenth I said, dang, I wasted a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Why because normal fetis I'm productive.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I wake up at four thirty five, so it's
like when I don't have to go to work, it's
stuff to do.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But if I pause, it's just.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Like I'm getting because I've been working on getting myself
out of that where I have to constantly be productive.
I don't care, Like I ain't gonna say I don't
care if I'm just in the space of like life
is too sure. I don't have to be productive all
the time. So well, I say, don't do nothing over ten.
I get up and get my kids to school and stuff.
But I'm not scheduling no clients before ten. If I

(36:28):
want to go to the gym before my eleven o'clock clients,
So my schedule is eleven to seven, like my clients
because I like to I don't like that hustle bustle,
rush around in the morning, like everybody got to be
somewhere at a time.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I don't like that. So I get my kids to
school and then I just kind of like chill and
then I go to work. What's your sign?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I'm doing that because I'm a cusper. I'm a corparretarian.
I'm a scorpio butians.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
But I say it like that because some stuff, when
you look it up, it actually says I'm a Sagittarius.
I have to pick a side. In my whole life,
I've been a scorpios. I'm a scorpiod.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Because you want to reminded me of some scorpios I know,
like just but I want to do what I want
to do too.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
But I'm I'm I'm more of that which structure. I
need structure, organization to do anything in my life.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, half of my life is like that. So because
Virgo rising, that's how I show up in my business.
It's very like I love virgos. Yeah, I'm virgarizing, So
like my business, how I show up, it's like if
you come, everything is very like everything matching.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
I was just talking talking about this because he was like,
just do the relaunch. I step with tone. I'm very meticulous.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Everything has to match and everything has to but that's
how I show up, like in business, but like personal,
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like that at all. It's like it's not it's not bad.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's like as long as I'm showing up and like
the things that because I'm very big on like if
my name is attached to it has to be right right.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So that's that's the Virgo in me, like the Virgo rising.
But the Scorpio was like, I don't give up.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I could be five minutes like I ain't losing nothing.
Hello Chanelle, thank you for tuning in. Heyvid, what I
was gonna say?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I forgot what?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh my daughter, she's a burger right, so she's in
track that girl for her to be a little person
like her age.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
She's fourteen. She she is like she's so stressed out,
Like I'd be like, Beyonce is a Virgo.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
So like when they be like you got as many
hours in the day as Beyonce, Like I'll just be
thinking like how much she accomplishes, Like she's like, oh
I did good, but I gotta get this and I
got I just I said, so yourself some grades, little one.
But yeah, so how do you incorporate mindfulness and meditation

(38:51):
into your classes for addy emotional support? So that's usually
how the practice starts is in meditation okay, yeah, so
we start with breathwork and meditation and going to the practice,
and then in your final shavasa, which is your final rest,
you're going back to your breath and mindfulness.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
So it's already sorready you know when you hold your
first classes soon.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So I'm working on it because like just securing I
did secure location, so I'm working on I'm hoping May.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
But again burg A Rising.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Everything needs to be I'm not going to just jump
out and do it and like it has to be right,
that's fine. I've been trying to make sure everything is aligned,
you know, it got to be in an alignment for me,
like has to feel right. So I did just find
a space and it kind of just fell in my lap,
which I'm like, okay, that's all you know.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I want. It's for you. It's gonna be for you.
So I'm hoping May.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So I've actually been teaching my son's basketball team since
I came back So that's how I been getting my
practicing on, like really leading my son. You said teaching
teaching my sons' oh.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Okay, I'm like, like you do my son?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, my son he's a he's a very good basketball player.
So I got hen my baby. He got a couple
of D one offers already.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay, shout out, yeah, Isaiah.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
That was central y'all getting to know me. But with
my baby, make it to the league. Baby, I'm about
to be y'all ain't gonna see me. No, this is
mema PARTI B. I don't know if y'all ever seen this.
It's a mema CARDI B. She's sitting courtside at the
basketball game. She's sitting like this with her popcorn. If
you ever see this meme and you just know that's
gonna be me, Well, my baby back to the popcorn.

(40:34):
I'm like, baby, do y'all know who.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
My son is? I have to do none of the
period you have. Y'all be like, what happened there? The baby?
She is fine all day. You ain't wrong. We don't
pour it into these kids. We need to chill. We
raised them so they can pour back into us.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
My oldest son is twenty one and he was basketball, football, baseball,
karate a. You now my middle baby. He's been in
au and basketball everything since he was eight. He's now sixty.
This has been taking up a lot of my life.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Oh I know.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
So I'm just like, I'm just saying, when we make
it them friends them parents, is your friends. I remember
my son was in a you like we was going
out of town and everything.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It was a thing. It was a thing. It's a lot.
It is a lot. Jesus, that's another job. Oh it is.
Motherhood is the most like what's the word I'm looking for, unpredictable, unorganized,
it's unpaid labor. Its labor we pour into our kids.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
So they supposed that's supposed to be our pay labor,
mess around and collect our life, and sir, I just.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I just fall. How do you address the challenges that
might arisees.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
During yoga sessions for individual rules with less structuating symptoms?
So I haven't experienced that yet, but I would just imagine,
you know, especially so the good thing will be is
that I can relate, right, Like that's gonna be the
good thing is, you know, depending on how the classes
look at what I ended up doing, and so I'll

(42:18):
be because I can relate and empathize and be able
to just assist. It's just gonna be like a as
it happens thing because it hasn't happened yet, so it's
hard to like address it. But I can just imagine,
like with me being able to be empathetic and like, oh,
I know how you feel, you know what I mean.
And that's the thing is like when I when I
was looking for yo so I found classes, but none
of them have like cater to.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
I ain't gonna say they haven't catered to, but.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I when it's all started, I wasn't aware of like
classes that would be beneficial for like somebody with fiber.
So I just signed up for yoga because I'm not knowing,
like I'm like not getting I'm like wait what, I'm like,
this is doing a lot, but I still I fell
in love with it though, So like the fact that
I'm still doing it this many years later and like
have my own practice, my own consistent practice that I

(43:05):
just you know, am able to do and now being
certified and that's eventually you know, helping other people.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
That's all I'm excited about. So what's your end goo
with this? You really want to? Yeah, So I want
to like live on the beach and teach y'all going
to beach. Nothing wrong with that I want to do.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Ain't nothing wrong with that, No, But I mean before that,
I want to introduce more people to it, and especially
like people dealing with like chronic pain and you know,
invisible illness and like kind of I don't say cater
to that, but just making sure there's options available like
for that population, like I would really love. But what

(43:47):
I've been doing so far with it, like I said,
I've been teaching my son's basketball team.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And what was so amazing to watch is these.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Like sixteen seventeen year old young men who like when
we first started, they were like, why we gotta do this?
Like what it? And the coach because I told the coach,
I'm like, if you think it would be something benefitial,
She's like, yes, let's do that. And to watch them
from the first and we did it from September to
we just got done. In my oh, and we did
it once a week. And to watch them like go

(44:17):
right into their poses, go into their meditation, go into
their breathwork, I'm.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Like, oh, my babies, like you know, cause like because.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
They weren't even into it, and then they got into
it and I'm like, Okay, what's next, y'all And then
they're like, oh, we go into chair, let's go into mountain.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
How do y'all set up for mountain? Look? You know
what I mean? Like to watch that.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And now what I'm excited about is now that they've
been introduced to it, you know, like how they're they're
going to carry that into their life, like even in
some games, cause before every practice I always give them
like a little motivational and I always like related it
back to basketball. And it was like one time I
was like, when you get angry out there, return to
your breath, like just remember. And one of them after

(44:57):
the game was like, I remember what you said, Like
I was getting that, so I had to return to
my breath.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
I'm like yes.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
And then another one got like he heard his calf
and he came they all call me mam now, so
he's like mom, He's like, I heard my calf, and
all I could think, it's like, man, we gotta do
yoga on money.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
I'm like, right, but I love that right because it's
like like these.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Young black you know black men who don't aren't typically
we're not thinking about young black men and you know
doing yoga right, So like I love that, So I
would love to do more of that too.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Like do you see, like so before you taught yoga
to the team, did you see any behavioral issues that
was negative that that is not positive? Like did they?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I wouldn't really say like I saw anything. They're like
a really good group of boys, but I had to
get on them a little, you know about just like
being respectful and and then by the you know, once
we got into it, they they got it together. But
I have my little like sound bow and all I
gotta do is hit it once and they be like
I'm like, yes, thank you, come on and be quiet.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Let's let's get You know.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
That's dope because you know that can help people mental
like how you go back to stay grounding and meditating
and all that.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And I think a lot of kids, especially these days,
need that. They need that.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
So that's when you say, what do I want to
do with this? So when I was in my yoga training,
that was one of the things, like what do you
want to do with this? And I literally said I
would love to do programming for a youth because if
we can get think about it, like I didn't know
about none of this until I was thirty, right, like mindfulness,
breath work, you know. So it's like what if I
had been introduced when I was ten or fifteen and

(46:31):
just learn like sit, meditate, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Like, so if I could get to them, that's who
like I want to get to the youth. Yeah, I
think that would be dope because who thinks about that?

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Right? No?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Right, who thinks about that?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Especially young especially when I especially because I have boys,
So of course, like young man definitely gonna have a
place in my heart because I feel like we often
overlook the boys when we think about even I mean
even not just boys, but man, when we think about
self care or self love, healing work, we don't think
about men. We think about like as women, that's what
we engage in, right. I don't think we ever think
about like catering to men in that space. I haven't

(47:08):
seen it personally.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
See, And I do then because my father.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
When I first had my son, like he was the
first son to any and everybody else, so he was
the most important, first everything, and I gave him a voice.
A lot of people didn't like that I gave him
a voice, but I taught him it's okay to express
yourself respectfully. Right, that's not it's almost unheard of from

(47:37):
people that I know. And and then too, I tell
him it's okay to feel. It's okay to feel. You know,
people that I know be like, oh, you you're a boy.
You're not supposed to know.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Why not? It's not gender roles.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
But I didn't think about how many men now of
our generation, especially you know, we also.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Talk about a lot, you know, social media didn't get.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
That messaging right, like about you can feel your feelings.
So now we're dealing with these forty year olds. That's
a whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I'm gonna touch a little base off of that.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
No, it's man that I know that in those age
and when I come along, because my belief is different, right,
I will say things like that, like it's okay, you know,
and I have uncomfortable conversations with them.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
And they just be like, nobody never talked to me
like that, or you different, And I'm like what like
why not? Like why not?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Like how do you go get the mistleagy go get
your your nails done. Do you go get your feet done?
Like that? All that is self care like, and people
here just be like oblivious. It's very few that I
know that does that, but I just be like right.
So yeah, so circle back to my point of like
getting to them now, right, like taking care of yourself.

(48:51):
Girl got my oldest son because when I was in
nail school, my boys was my like practice models, right,
but now it's mama can get pretty.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
That is dope.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Work at work all day, you want to call me
at seven o'clock. And then he was also a model
for like facials. But I love it now right because
he like, mom, you know what, give me a facial?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
That is dope. So I love that. So yeah, so
I would love to to get some more young men.
So he has standards, he's going to be attracted to
a certain type of woman. Well no, yeah, I'll be
he's gonna hate if he ever see like he's such
a life he like I can't say a pretty, but
like he he takes care of it. Like listen, he

(49:35):
looked he fresh cut smell. I'll be like okay, Like okay,
so that is so dope. Listen all the time my
guests read the comments. So we got something from Kenda.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Hey, Kenda, Hey, how should now I want to take
a yoga class? Okay, Kenda, Yes, I will make sure
once I want to get started in May.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Awareness, Right, we're gon have to do something together. We should.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Yeah, we can do a whole little like a little segment.
Has to have him come record everything. That'll be dope.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yes, I hear, and I hear a lot of people
say that too, like they want to take a yoga class.
But like I said, it can be intimidate it.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Look I think if you don't know nothing about it,
it looks intimidating. Like, but we'll we'll work it out.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well we don't know. Yeah, I'm not gonna have it
where it's gonna be like undoable. It'll be beginner friendly,
is what I'm trying to say. Okay, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Gonna hold you do that because when I get in there,
you got me doing all this. I'm like, listen, now
we're gonna work our way up like lift that.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
How do you balance yoga practice with the ups and
downs that comes with living with a chronic illness?

Speaker 1 (50:43):
So when I'm feeling a way, that's when I also
do my.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yoga, right, so if I'm starting actually because today and
sometimes you know, with the weather, I'm like, oh I'm
feeling so too.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
People it's funny because they like that's like an old
lady like oh grandma thing like ooh my joins.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Is hurt's gone right today? Right, I'm like, I'm what
is going on? My neck? Was going all right? Going on?
Going on? You funny that is and fine, like where

(51:23):
does it end? Okay, we're doing some speed dating, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
You know, as you get to like my favorite, you
gonna literally learn my model. Like maybe I'm here for
a good time, not a long time. I just like
to have life is too short.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
That's like the half.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I like to laugh you neither, that's my thing, Like
I don't, I don't care. I like being an entrepreneur
because I could make my schedule. Yes, I don't work
until eleven. I don't want to work like this and
book see you, it's funny, I can just see right
there that is. But but also I'm a night I'll
really like my internal clock is backwards, so I'm supposed

(52:04):
to be. So that's why bartending like works for me,
because like I'm supposed to be up at those hours.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Whatever works for you. Listen, you gotta do what you
gotta do for you.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Guess what what common misconceptions do you encounter about yoga
and chronic illness and how do you address them? So
I can't really say that I've encountered anything, but I
can say some misconceptions that I have heard. I actually
have people tell me that they if I do YO classes,
they will not attend because of their religion. So some

(52:36):
people are very because they feel like it's rooted in
like either Buddhism or you know, and like it's not
religion based.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
I just want people to get that out of their head.
It's not religion. But I never heard it.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Oh yeah, I had a whole conversation with a couple
of people that I was like, Oh, we can't do
that because I'm like, wow, I mean, everybody got their thing.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
But so that's one misconception.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I'm like, don't feel like you can't come because you're
worshiping that that's we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Like, So, yeah, I had a whole conversation with a
couple of people. I was like like literally, I was like,
you're gonna go to my class? She was like, girl,
we can't go to that. I'm like, what because of
their religion?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
People really need to understand in today's time there is
actually more than one meaning to the same thing, just
because how the world is right now, Yeah, you got
to pick a side. But yeah, so what if I
if when I start my classes, there's nothing like religious
basically not honoring any because people feel like certain poses

(53:35):
are to certain indeedy it's a whole time, like just
look at it as you're coming to stretch your body,
increase your flexibility and improve your circulation my mind to
look at it stress free, you're ready to go conquer
the world or to yourself. Look at it like that workout,
and it's a different type of So she said, if

(53:58):
I didn't call it yoga, it would be okay, but
then that I'd be taken away from you. I'm just
telling you what they said.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I was like, Okay, crazy people are crazy. I know
I respect you know I respect people. Okay, but that's
not what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
What we are literally this I I I love having
dope conversations because we always go over our conversations.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
But I'm definitely gonna have you bring it back. But
before we go.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
What if you could share one key takeaway for warriors
dealing with lupas and fibro milegia, what would it be?
Kind of what I said before, advocating for yourself. It's
okay to get other opinions. You know what one doctor says,
it's not like the end all be all. I think
we gotta get out of that. Well this is one
doctor said. Okay, Well there's other opinions. There's other doctors,

(54:47):
there's other research. Researching for yourself, because I think if
I hadn't had looked into like, okay, let me figure
out what this is and found, like I said, it
was so many different. Oh this is it's a nervous pain,
it's or nervous system thing. It's an inflammatory thing. Don't
eat this, don't do it like and then I kind
of put it all together and started working on healing

(55:07):
myself essentially. So I definitely like advocating for yourself, doing
your research, not being scared of like holistic natural.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
I'm not on any medication anymore. Cool.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I drink, I drink my teas, I take my black
seat oil, my oiliver Regano, my Sea Mars capsule. Like
I got a whole thing, and I've been feeling better,
So I'm like, it's something's worth.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Everything works for everybody. Tell somebody what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I think you should definitely like be open to trying
other things outside of just like medication, because a lot
of the medications it's only like to treat the symptoms.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
But what is really getting to the core, the root,
the cause of these things? Right?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
A lot of this stuff is in our I'm sorry,
I'm gonna just be the one to say it's in
the food that we eat.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
I don't listen, so like what's keeping us inflame?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
What's what's what are we eating that's keeping mucus in
our body, which then is holding disease in our body?
Like looking at all that, I don't eat a ton
of like white sugar anything, And I got a sweet
sooth I ain't got, But I don't even bother to
buy stuff anymore because I'm just like, what's the point
if I know it's gonna trigger like inflammation or's gonna
trigger pain, I don't. I was like literally a pepsi
addict like for a long time, and I don't drink

(56:20):
salt anymore. Every once in a while, I might sit
a little, like with dinner or something. So just like
taking that time to research and figuring out keeping track
of like, Okay, after I eat this or drink this,
how do I feel like, Oh, maybe I shouldn't be
eating or drinking that.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
So just being open minded and advocating for yourself.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Really absolutely, I definitely second that doctors is only as
good as their booking what they study. And you do
have to be an advocate because you can shine lights
on things that the doctor's not even thinking about. And
in today's world, the healthcare we on time frames.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So time frames take away the care that we are
supposed to be giving to our patients. So with that
being said, before we go, this is a dope, dope
dope fly Girl.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Did I say it right? No?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Fly Oh, fly Journal, Fly fly Journal, Love Yourself, Go
get it on Amazon. Is very pretty for the pretty
people that like pretty things like me, So go get this.
She also has a book on Amazon and what all
things that you have coming up in the near future,
so we can attend nothing plan right now, So just

(57:33):
stay tuned. So follow me at fly Girl Firebro. I'll
post I'm kind of going through like a rebrand right now,
I'm coming. I'm just coming back. Me and tone was
just like, I'm just kind of coming back. It's reasons
behind that that I'll eventually get to and say, well
I want that exclusive on this.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Okay, I'll come back.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Okay, So yes, if you follow me at fly Girl
with Firebro, the yoga, everything will be once I start.
I got a whole Yes, I would say, I got
a whole summer self care plan for y'all.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Stay tuned. So just be ready to be looking for that.
Y'all heard what fly Girls said. Definitely be looking back. Yeah,
I did it.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I did it a few years that I was called
summer self care. So I'm bringing summer self care back.
Yoga is coming. So yes, just follow me and we're
gonna do all the things.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Okay, Well, thank you so much. We greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Thank you guys for tuning in on every Wednesday Lucas
how snow Faced Podcast with your whot Savannah.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Until next time,
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