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July 9, 2025 56 mins
Navigating Life's Roles with Resilience: A Conversation with Phoeniix LeeWelcome to a powerful episode of the Lupus Has No Face Podcast, hosted by Savannah Burks. In this insightful conversation, we're joined by the dynamic and inspiring Phoeniix Lee. Phoeniix shares her profound journey of finding strength while balancing her many roles as a mother, leader, entrepreneur, and advocate.

This episode delves into Phoeniix's experience navigating the complexities of invisible illnesses, including lupus and Hashimoto’s disease. She offers candid insights into how she maintains resilience, grace, and authenticity amidst these challenges. Listeners will hear Phoeniix discuss the vital importance of self-love, mental health awareness, and the significance of walking in your true purpose.

Phoeniix opens up about balancing a demanding career in radio broadcasting and entrepreneurship with her roles as a dedicated mother and community supporter, all while remaining true to herself. She emphasizes the power of perseverance, the crucial role of support systems, and how she channels her personal experiences into empowering others.

Gain valuable perspectives on her journey with anxiety, depression, and autoimmune illnesses, and discover how she finds strength through her faith, her children, and her passions. Whether you're facing invisible battles or striving to pursue your dreams, Phoeniix’s story stands as a testament to resilience, purpose, and the importance of embracing your authentic self.

Tune in for an honest and inspiring discussion that encourages women, mothers, and aspiring leaders to stay grounded, stay true, and walk boldly in their purpose. Remember, strength is not the absence of struggles, but the perseverance through them.

Thank you for tuning in to "Lupus Has No Face," a podcast dedicated to sharing real stories and insights on living with Lupus and other invisible illnesses. Join your host, Savannah Burks, as she explores the struggles and triumphs of individuals navigating their health journeys, all while juggling life's many challenges. Don't miss an episode! Subscribe, listen, and share on all major podcast platforms. For more content and updates, follow us on social media and join the conversation.
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Speaker 1 (01:20):
Hello you guys, thank you for tuning in to another
wonderful Wednesday of Lucas Haseno Face podcast which your wonderful
hosts Savannah and our special guest Phoenix Lead. Today is
in the building, you guys. Okay, we will be discussing
Finding Strength, a conversation on motherhood and leadership. Today we'll

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be joined by the amazing Phoenix Lead, a powerhouse voice
from we all listen to it every morning or every
afternoon V one hundred Okay Milwaukee V one hundred, and
the visionary behind the Elite Mobile, Bartendle. She had to
talk about finding strength through motherhood leaders ship.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
In the mini roles, she juggles with resilience and grace. Yes,
trying to be super woman.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Trying to be is okay? Is so before we get this,
before we get you know, jump right into it.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
How was your day to day?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
So I juggle too jobs. I'm in school, have the
mobile bars, in the business and whatever else. So my
other job is spot of water me. So I was
there today and that was pretty smooth. But yeah, it
was a pretty uneventful day, which is good. Sometimes, Yes,
I live for days like that. Sometimes you live for

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days like that.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yes, you got a lot, You got a lot going on,
a lot of busy jobs going on. Most people have
like a calm collective and then busy. It's seems like
you got busy. Busy. Yeah, it can wear it a
little bit. Yeah, but you got the personality for it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I love both jobs what I do. A lot of
people assume that people that end up in hospitality jobs
like failed at life or whatever. Okay, I'm gonna just
be a server or bartender. But I love what I do.
I get to meet people from all different backgrounds, and
some of my customers have became friends or family.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I love mixing drinks. I love entertaining people.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I love just being able to change people's day by
maybe telling a joke or giving a compliment or something
like that. So both jobs I kind of feel like
I get paid to kick it or whatever. So yeah,
that's what you're supposed to do, right, hard, Right, that's
what you do, or do what you love. That's the
stingma on people these days about job titles and they

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forget to fall in love with what is it that
you do right, Like they've a few times ask me
what I consider being like a supervisor or whatnot. I
don't care about none of that stuff on a resume,
Like I want to do what feeds my soul or whatever,
and baby sitting people, ain't it. I don't care how
I was looking at a resume or if you're gonna

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give me a couple more dollars or whatever, like.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, I think you gotta life is too short. You
gotta do what you love, and I ain't about to
be stretched with our grown folks. Yeah, no, that ain't bad.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
And to touch on when you said changing your mood, like,
I was just at the marketplace for my daughter to day,
like what thing we want to do. I've been trying
to spend as much time with her as possible, but
I still got to do all the things that keep
white on and keep the momento going on my things too.
So mynor is a pretty chill type of chick. And
we would go eat, of course, and I'm like telling

(04:34):
a bar, I'm like, listen, I normally get my norm, but.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
This is what I like. Just surprised me.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, and she did that, and it really did kind
of kind of knocked the edge off a little bit,
because just like just like.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
The smallest rude thing you might do that somebody might
like stick with them throughout the whole day. It's the
reverse as well, you know what I mean, Like just no, like,
oh girl, you look good in that blue period, like
you might that might make you forget about everything else
that you're worrying about or whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So and people don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And then I'm I guess I'm so fortunate to be spoiled.
I did not know the marketplace only accept cards because
I had.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Just went there recently too, and I was lost and
confused time to pay them like she was like no.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
I said, well, maybe you want to take this drink
back and she was like no, no, no, no, you
can put it on my car.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I'm like, are you sure? She's like yeah, I said,
you know what, I'm giving your money back.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I hit up one of my good people and they
something right over. I'm like, and I said it to
but I was just like, dang, I didn't even know I'm.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Talking to my daughter. Of course, she got so much
to say.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
You didn't know, you didn't see it was no casual
things like Nana, we had, So I have a question. Yes,
you are one of the voices of you one hundred, right,
is it different doing radio voice versus live podcast or

(06:07):
like something like this?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And if it is something different to you.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Is it so? Yes, it actually is because most of
the time, especially since I'm juggling two jobs, they allow
me to pre record some of the stuff or whatever.
So that way, if I'm like, I ain't like how
that sounded, let me do it fifteen more times or whatever.
But now you got these cameras and stuff. So yeah,

(06:33):
my nerves is on edge a little bit. But you
make me feel good. I always love Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Is it the only difference? Is it the cameras or
the mess up or you know, No, it seemed like.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
A similar setup actually or whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, just like being myself here, like that's how I
am on the air too, Like I just say whatever
comes to mind. Yeah, for those that don't know, on
myne Sunday seven am to ten am.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
That's right, that's the next person I was gonna be
get into. Oh what it no, Okay, it's over, it's
no right, left, tern whatever. So what is it that
you do? Do you have anything coming up? And if so,
how can we get involved?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
So what I do? I started out, okay, so let
me reverse real quick, give me my resume. So I
initially got into radio back in oh five, I'm gonna
age myself, So five to seven I was Bailey Komen's
insurn slash assistant. That radio was so different. It was

(07:51):
the nose, streaming platforms, none of that stuff or whatever.
So it was just it was way more hands on,
and I missed that, uh those actors to it. After that,
I ended up getting pregnant with my son, and I
kind of just wanted to focus on that, so I
laid load for a long time, and then in twenty fifteen,

(08:14):
I was at ninety eight point three. There, I was
just on a promo team or whatever. It was smooth,
but I just I didn't see a chance for me
to move up in the timeframe I wanted to. So
when the pandemic happened, I kind of just went my
separate way. And then in twenty twenty two, I received

(08:37):
a call from Reggie Brown and Bailey Kolemen and Reggie
was in need of a producer, so he reached out
to me and was like, we don't we don't want
nobody else we want you. I know you've been waiting
to get back in the station, even though it's twenty
years later. Okay, but they kept you on mind, right,
So I spun the block or whatever. I started out

(08:58):
being his producer. However, for those of y'all that don't know,
radio is a very interesting industry. It's like, you do
what you love, but it might not be the most stable,
so at any point they could just let you go whatever.
So it's important to network. It's important not to burn
any bridges. It's important to have other skill sets that

(09:23):
you can add to that. So shortly after I started,
they let Bailey go because of budget cuts, and.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Then further down the road, the same week that I.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Was set to start my show, it's the same week
they let Reggie Brown go because of budget cuts. But
they didn't have it didn't have nothing to do with me,
but I guess they was trying to just like go
a different direction. And then after that they end up

(09:57):
letting Melvin Minister Melvin Hood go and then bumped me
up to his spot, which is real early I'm not
an early bird, but but so now I currently run
the social media. I distributed some of the prizes like
I assist the UH promo director. Okay, I make some

(10:18):
updates to the website and then once in a while
they'll get me to go to like Total Wireless or
something like that. But it's kind of hard to juggle
it with everything else I got going on.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
But that's that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
The only thing setting stone that's coming up, I would say,
is our breast Cancer walk walk. I can't talk right
in September, that's the Sister strauw and Just Hilarious will
be here.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
This time around, so it should be pretty dope. Is
that here in Malkee, Wisconsin?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yep? It's at the Marcus Performing Pet Pavilion September twenty seventh.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
And where can they sign up that?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
They can go to B one hundred dot com and
then search strut for the keyword.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So yeah, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Type that in.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Make sure you put that in the chants below. It
was a huge turnout last year. It was really dope.
It really was.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Last year.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
They had Angela Yee, she was so sweet her on
her team. So I'm looking forward to see how just is.
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, I never been I never heard of really, so
I'm gonna definitely come definitely gonna come, So y'all make
sure y'all go ahead and sign up and just come
support the falls if nothing at all.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yes, yeah, it's it's definitely like a lot of sisterhood
and just unity and just dope vibes.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So is it like just like a walk? Is it
a speech before? After a little bit everything? Like, uh,
we normally get a little entertainment, We get somebody to
get us, get some exercising. I'm pretty sure we'll be
doing some line dances this year, so get the fans ready.
And then there's a lot of vendors, a lot of

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local vendors.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
It was a few food places you could go to,
but yeah, it's a little bit of everything. It's entertainment, exercise.
They also do free breast exams there as well, so yeah,
and then we do the walk after we all done
shopping and whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
The walk gonna wipe us out, and it's the short walk.
We gotta we gotta say some of that stuff when
they come. We can't give them everything right now because
we need y'all support. Yes, okay, so we did a
little bit on your story. So what does strength means
to you today? And how has that define involved over

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time when evolved over time.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I used to be real scared of failure until I
realized that's how you succeed, Like.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Don't nobody get it? Well, nobody I know of gets
it right on the first try or whatever. So strength
to me is just persevering through whatever life throws that you,
and yeah, just get up more times than you you
fall down, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Push through. Yeah, yeah, stick to the plan. My sister
has a I'm trying to remember it's a wallpaper and
the phone. It's a stick to the plan, not your mood.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, I can understand that, because your mood can be
your move can be like I ain't doing that today,
doing that tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
I'm just done with that. You can throw everything up.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I used to do that, and then it'll be like, Okay,
I'm not in the mood today, I'm not in the mood.
I'm not in the move next day, and I'm like okay,
Like no, I need to get it together. So stick
to the plan, not your mood. Yeah, that is so dope.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
I was just literally having like a little small top
of my daughter, just letting her remember all of the
things that I've poured into her because of what she's
about to transition it to do. And I always saw
her like, listen, just because it doesn't work this way,
that's not God's speaking to you. So many people be like,
that's God's telling me. No, no, no, no no, go
back to your drawing more. You probably skip some steps
and you messed it all up, So go back, let's

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start fresh, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
So I was just saying that, So that's that's pretty dope.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, you wear many hats, radio hats, entrepreneur hats, mother.
What has been your greatest source of strength through it all?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Okay, So I'm gonna be a little transparent. I have
struggled with some mental health issues, and by that I
mean like bad anxiety, bad anxiety, and some like bounts
of depression. But I'll say after I have my son,

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like it gave my life so so so much purpose.
And then I also have lovely step kids and they
keep me going to they be like, nah, we're not
about to do this, white girl tears. We gotta keep
on pushing or whatever. So I say, my kid's been
my greatest strength through everything.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
So when you talk about depression because many warriors have
depression on top of available in them. So having somebody
else healthy and having depression, people say, like, what does
that look like?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Right? That still eat from in without right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So what does depression look like for you? When you
are going through your depression? It's just hard to get
out of bed.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
It's over analyzing what every little thing, what people say,
do everything. It's good to be on guard, but like
I overdo it. I get real sensitive. I'm a sensitive Uh,
I got a smart mouth, but so sensitive.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I just overthink too much. I get in my head
and then I can't get out. So yeah, it could
kind of like prevent me from being my best in
other areas.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I would you say, that's a little bit lotti as well.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, And because you have your children and you have
your step children out, is that what feeds you?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Now?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Is that your way of dealing with it or are
you like taking a type of medications or anything like
that to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I take ashwaganda and folate and those have helped a lot. Also,
I wanted to touch on since the main reason we're
here is because of loops. I also was diagnosed with
hashimotos disease, which is a thyroid disease where the autoimmune

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system attacks just the thyroid versus like several other organs.
And so that once they got me on medication for
that and got that under control, I've seen a three
sixty with my mood. Really that was really affecting that,
and I would have never known. I would have just
been like, oh, that's depression anxiety or whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
So yeah, wow, so so you.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Have something from me. I wasn't even able to do
my homework. No, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So yes, invisible illnesses, what do you look like? You
look perfectly fonfit everybody. How does that affect you? So
it's actually similar in some ways where it's like to lupus,
but not as not as extreme. So I don't want
to take from that you want, But it's a lot.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Of fatigue, joint pains, and stiffness on top of my
old age.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know which one it is.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Uh yeah, I'll say the thing that affects me the
most is being fatigue. So I'm already wearing myself then,
but then like uh, when the levels is like lower
than they should be, then I'm even more fatigued and
it's it looks like I'm being lazy or whatever, but
I just I don't want to do nothing. I just
want to recharge, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
That is so double. I'm definitely gonna have to educate
myself on that because you do what.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
But I'm happy that you said that because I was
show like, you know, I was trying to navigate through it.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, I was trying to see how I could circle
back to Lucas. I was well, I was like, it's
actually like this is like a baby version of it
kind of if that makes sense or whatever. So, but
I think that's important for people to keep in mind. Yeah,
like invisible illnesses, people be like, oh she's fine, she

(18:43):
looks good, or she's still doing this. Uh, she out
here kicking it, she out here going to work. That
doesn't mean like we're okay mentally, you're physically or whatever.
Like it'd be a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
It costs nothing to be kind really you never you
just never know nobody is going through, just never know
what nobody is going through. And I'm and I love
the fact that I have this platform because not bringing
awareness just to Lucas, bringing awareness is all the invisible
illness like, I never heard that a day of my life,
and I'm sure my supporters have never heard. If you

(19:16):
guys are listening to this, then you heard. I never
did either, but.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I thought it sounded kind of cool, but as brothers
or something or something.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, so like, if you guys ever heard it, let
me know chime in, type in, because I just never
heard of something like this. So like, were you born
with it? Did something in the atmosphere's triggery? And then
like how did you get fully diagnosed with it?

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I think mine is genetics, because so you can have
an underactive thyroid or you could have an overactive. So
overactive would mean I'll look like eighty pounds or whatever, right,
but I have an underactive one, which slows down my metabolism,
which makes it harder to like get rid of weight

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when I'm trying to do that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So that's something else we was talking about.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But and so it can be more discouraging because it's
gonna be harder or a slower progress for me to
do it because of that. But yeah, no, I just
she checked all my vitamin levels. I'm just so fatigued
and wore out when I wasn't doing anything and I'm like,
this ain't right, Like I don't know what else I

(20:31):
need to do, And so she thought maybe it was
my vitamin D level or B twelve, but she ended
up discovering the antibodies.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
For the the how she motives disease.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
So yeah, real dope, Yeah, everything all right.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's like the people they be like, what's what they'd
be saying, what's a crazy name that sounds cute that
you your kids?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And people be like media like, no, I don't know
if you ever heard. No.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I thought she was going with sexy red and all
her lips or whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Maybe I wouldn't put that on my lips, but music
in my head, but I don't want list.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
That is so funny. Gonderia. God, I thought I thought
people was trolling, and then I seen that was no.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I had to look it up. I looked it up.
I'll say, what in the world? But she be selling out.
She speaks to her comments for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I don't come for me, don't comfort.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We got a couple of comments over here.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
No, we got a couple of comments out here.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I always look at guest freedom telling you want to
start with the first comment, Hey, Shawn said, hello, you
guys helloa, and I think that was just him tagging. Okay,
that was very information on there. Okay, cool, Yeah, that
was that. That's something.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay. They say it's the market for everything, it.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Is it is.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Was there a specific moment in your journey that tested
your strength the most and how did you push through?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
I will say me, I'd say this is one thing.
Me and my man both have jobs where the the
income fluctuates.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's not like a nine to five. So he installs
windows or whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So he might do somebody mansion and put in twenty
five windows and that will be X amount of dollars
versus y'all need two windows fixed here or something. So
it's been as challenging challenges trying to support both of
our dreams while still maintaining like our budget and whatever else.

(23:16):
I would just say, like we just kind of sat
down and did things smarter and you know, not just
give up on what we're doing. Okay, Well, you know
the radio station don't pay enough, or if I don't
pay enough, I'm just gonna quit everything. Like no, where
there's a will, there's a way, and there's a million
hustles out here. So I'll say when the going gets tough. Yeah,

(23:43):
I do everything step only fans the cells.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Man. During the pandemic, I was selling drinks. I was
like uber drinks. Them would sell out. I made, uh,
what is it like some positive self taught candles. So
it was like a road shaped candle I would make
and then in the middle it will be a bottle
with a little positive information in it. When you burn

(24:13):
the candle.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Down, people still need that.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I know. I want to get back into that. What
else did I do? I did two gems, I sold lingerie,
I did everything.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
People was in the house.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, they was making babies, a.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Lot of babies. It's okay, y'all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
There was a lot of not get off topic, but
there was a lot of if you survived the pandemic,
your relationship, not saying that it wasn't or not, but
that's where you were supposed to be. I feel like
because a lot of people realize that they don't like
that person because just think about it.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, just think about it. You got a routine.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
You get up every morning, Hey, bag, good morning, eat, leave,
come back home whatever, go to there. You're not in
a house for eight hours. Stract twenty four hours lockdown.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, you do this.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You smack your team, you smack when you eat. You
don't pick a box. What people go to the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I had ever since I
was fourteen. I kept a job.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I've never been unemployed ever since I was fourteen, And
so that was the first time I could kind of
sit down and did you like it? I liked it
for like a week. It was cracking, and I was like, Okay,
this is boring. I need to be like meddling and
doing something, you know. But it did let me like
focus on more things I wanted to do, like hobbies

(25:40):
or catching up with people, you know, like as you
get older, you almost got to like make an appointment
to call sure. So it was just kind of nice
to catch up with myself, if that makes sense. So
did you tap in?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Not saying that you didn't know who you are before
the pandemic, but do you know, do you find out
who you were? Like what's your life with your dislikes?
Because a lot of people don't know who they are.
So did you spend that time? I would say I'm
still on a journey. I'll say every day I'm on a.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Journey, but I would say I'm still on a journey
figuring out what works for me and what what doesn't.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
But I definitely did get more clarity during that time.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Well that's good. Yeah, okay, Okay, something happened. Okay, we're
gonna jump into the reality of motherhood. Motherhood is a
full time job on how do you balance being a
present mom while leading to high demanding and high demanding

(26:48):
jobs and industry.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So this seems to work for my household, but I
wouldn't say it's the ideal thing. But we don't have
a lot of structure. And what I mean by that
is it's not like, okay, like you said, Okay, we
wake up at such and such time, Okay, let's make

(27:12):
some breakfast, let's do this and that, like everybody's always
on the go or whatever. And the kids is.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
More grown, but they're not grown grown. Okay.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Uh So it's nineteen year old twins and then a
twenty year old son, and then my biological son. He'll
be seventeen this weekend, but he thinks he about twenty five.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
He had cancer. He's emotional. I got one too, but
he's not too bad.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
But he my twins, so it could be like we're
best friends or I'm poppy so but lately he been
thinking he.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Liked real grown, so it's been a little a little
hit buddy.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
But I would say the way that I balanced it
is I take care of what I'm supposed to do.
So I work mornings at how to water me, and
then I'm blessed enough with the one hundred where a
lot of the stuff I can do remotely, so I
might be in the bed smoking my hookah, eating a

(28:12):
cheeseburger or something, and then just you know, taking care
of social media post or checking the algorithm or whatever.
So I kind of get that get in where I
fit in with that, and then the kids be needing
rides to work, or can you pick me up from

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a friend's house, or hey, I need to talk about
this girl I really like, or you know whatever, and
so it's not it's not a set schedule. So I
guess that's how we work it out. But I don't
always like that that daily plan, if it makes sense,
I'd prefer more structure. But hey, I can't always get

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what you want in life, so you just ride away,
so run the way it's worked for you, ye, me,
I need.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I need to know what's going on. My world does
not function without a schedule. I try. I did. I tried,
because I'm a liver.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
I can understand both sides, right, that does not work
for me. It doesn't work for me. I can't function.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I think I got so used to it that now
a schedule gives me anxiety.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's like, wait, I gotta do what by what side?
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
So yeah, okay, how has becoming a mother's shaped the
way you learn in business and on air?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Well? I always try to be a good example for him,
so I'll say, prior to having my son, I was
real quick to give.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Up on things. But now I'd be like, no, we
don't take no for an answer. We are headed over here, like.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
And so, yeah, I just carried myself like I'm walking
in my purpose because I want him to. He's kind
of been like dabbling in different things, but I just
want him to find his purpose. I don't want him
to just exist, if that makes sense, because I spent
so much of my life doing that. You know, I
want him to live. I want him.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
To live passionately and whatever else.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
So yeah, I just try to show him like, hey,
walk in your purpose, whatever that is, you gonna hear
the little whisper from God, and yeah, just follow it.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
For sure that you know. I can't just let that
slide because you said what I say.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I might have said, you said, I did that so
much in my life meaning existing?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
What do you mean by that way?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
You're alive but you're not living? And what did that
look like for you? Like it's just like everything's not autopilot.
And I'll actually say that's been up until recently. It's
like you're just kind of stuck in this mental jail,
like Okay, I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do the same thing, go to sleep, do
it again or whatever. And it's like you don't find

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the beauty in every moment of the day or whatever.
You know what.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I was just literally talking to someone.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
She didn't word it just the way that you worded it,
but she said that, And so before I say this,
I'm gonna ask you why did you feel that way?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's like we put ourselves in that prison, I don't know, yeah,
and we got the key and we'd be like, dang,
I don't like the way this feel, but you'd be like,
well that's what I'm used to, so that's what I'm
gonna stick to. But then you get tired of it.
You like, okay, listen, life is so sure you watch
people you love pass away unexpectedly at super young ages

(31:50):
that you've even surpassed, and you're like, Okay, this ain't
something I should keep taking.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
For granted, I need to wake up with a different
mind frame. So for sure, like.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Every time I give advice, I either went through and
lived experience or whatever the thing's night be in.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
My face may not fit everyone. Right. My thing is
that when we wake up every day, we have a choice.
We have a choice.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And the things that we complained about yesterday, the names
that we played about the day before, right, we got
a choice to make a different decision to do something else,
to do a little bit more, you know what I'm saying,
Like we want to be tired, but anything that we
do in life, we're not going to be able to
read the GLAMs and a glitter without the goom. And
what that means is you're going to go through what

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you need to go through to get what you want
to be able to sustain it.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Like we could reach it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
We all probably reach it a million lins, but we
wasn't able to sustain it because we wasn't ready for it.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
We didn't know what to do with it. They also
say that like God will give you.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I feel like that's been a big part of my
journey too, is getting involved in the church.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Shout out to Pastor can.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
But uh, I just feel like.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I forgot what it's Okay, I'll be having brain fogs
all the time, feelings.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
It comes with mine too, really yes, but no, I
just feel like I don't know, like God will, He'll
test you, like he'll give you like a little something.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Okay, is you ready for this? You okay, you're handling okay,
but you're not. You're not walking in your full purpose.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
So I can't upgrade you yet, that's sure, say like yeah,
he I feel like this is just my feelings.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But I feel like God will give you something and.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Test you and then if you you at that testing,
you know you go to the next level.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
If not, you stay there.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And those and those are your words, but I receive
your words. Just like people can go to the club
and spend their last why can't you spend your last
on your dream even though it's not gonna feed you
right now, but this is going to feed you you know,
later on life.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
And people don't have that mentality.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
This is with relationships, being an entrepreneur like anything and
not be telling people like like I said, they use
it eat the way out, be like, oh well this
is God's doing. No you think getting something that this
of this magnitude and this luxury where you can pull
people behind you is going to be easy. Absolutely not.
It's not going to be easy at all. But they

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need the person that's going to be able to sustain this.
So when they do bring the people with them, they're
going to be able to teach them a proper way
so they can.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
You know, it's abundance right, and people don't be understanding that.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
And sometimes it's like when you get to talking to
people and study talking to them ab at the same time,
I can't just leave them where it is that because
like for me, going through a lot of stuff that
I've been going through and still getting up every day.
And don't get me wrong, I fall, sure, I do,
but I don't stay there too long. I get myself
a day or so and I get right back at it.
Because life waste for nobody. You got to figure out

(34:55):
how to deal with you going through why you continue
doing whatever it is you're doing. You gotta keep because
the emails ain't gonna stop, them bills ain't gonna stop.
Nothing is going to. Are you going through what you're
going through, So you gotta have that. You gotta have that,
and you gotta have them people around you. Y'all circle
around you that's gonna be checking or even though you

(35:16):
don't respond to them, you gotta have them people that's
gonna check up on you.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
So you kind of like bring your life.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think that's been an important thing too, because when
you be in your feelings, you'll be like, I don't
nobody care about me, ain't nobody there or whatever. But
like it's a blessed to be able to actually like
step back and be like, nah, I'm very wrong. It's
like I have a lot of people that love on me,
and I've just been blessed with a really amazing support

(35:44):
system that I wasn't always aware of, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Because our circle that we thought we want that it's
not our circle.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
They getting moved out to the people that the end
and shout out to the people that's been checking up
on me, Like I've been telling them what I need,
they do it, and I love it. Like I don't
even haven't known them long or anything like that. I've
just been in the same circle as them or whatever
the case.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
They mean.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Y'all been really showing up and show it out. And
I really really appreciate that. That keeps me going because
I go back and I read those messages. Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
You know, a few, a few successful business people from
Milwaukee had told me over time. I think this is
something important to acknowledge, is that sometimes we think we
don't have a support system because we're looking from this
We're looking for the support the people that should be

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the people supporting.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Us in our eyes.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
But the business owners I spoke with and stuff like that,
they'd be like, it's crazy, but your your biggest supporters
is not gonna be for the people. It's not gonna
come from the people you expect. You know, it's God
gonna send you some new people. It's not necessarily gonna
be your family, it's not necessarily gonna be your suppose,
it might not even be your kids. But you're gonna

(37:07):
get the support. It just might not be from who
you're expecting it from.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And that is true.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah, when you look at my stuff of today, we
are like a Krayla box.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
What I mean by all of us.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Different people don't know how we even in a twine
with each other, how we met up, how we in
the same space, none of that.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
But we feed each other souls in different ways.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
And when we when we got introduced to each other,
it was just what it was supposed to be. And
that's all that people need to know, you know what
I'm saying. So the people that's like me, we don't
click very well. It's too caddy, it's too messy, is
too much every thing.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
A lot of people think things become a competition instead
of support or empower or collaboration.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It's everything's automatically a competition. And don't be that. It
don't be that. To tell you a girls girl like me,
I am, I love.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
People said they are, but they really And I don't
want to do an episode on that, but I don't
know if I want to do it on this platform.
But we're gonna talk about that. We definitely got Do
you ever feel pressure to do it all? And how
do you handle the way of those expectations.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Okay, so this is a good one. It's a good
one because since I got so many different things, I'm
trying to succeed that I'm trying to be the best mom.
I can be the best partner, I can be the
best worker. I can be the best bartender, the best entrepreneur,
the best radio personality, the best friend, the best everything.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Right, Sometimes I feel like I got my hands in
too many pots that ain't nothing cooking, and so it's
something I'm actually still learning. I wouldn't say that I
mastered it at all, but at least I'm aware and
I take it just day by day, like, Okay, you
know what, I feel like, I'm kind of falling short

(39:13):
as a mom today. You know, I think it's about
being self aware. Okay, let's plan a play day for
me and my son, or me and my kids or whatever.
Or Okay, I noticed me and my man haven't had.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
A lot of quality time. Let's plan something out.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Or I think it's just focusing on whatever you think
is suffering the most at that time. And that's kind
of how I've been trying to manage.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I guess no, you are, and I'm not on therapist
and nothing y'all.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
But you are because that's what I do.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I noticed that I work too much some time, and
I told my kids, I'm like, listen, if you ever
feel like, you know, I'm too in my air or
whatever a, can you go out today?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Can you not do this? Can we?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I gave them that, you know what I'm saying. Also,
I look too like okay, and hit me up about
going away in the I tent.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
So you are being having that awareness is though most
people don't even have that. They'll wake up twenty years
later and be getting divorced and don't don't even know why.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
I just I hope over the next however long time,
I don't even know what I'm trying to say that
I'm able to master it all. Like I'll be thinking,
like how do Beyonce pull this off?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Like help, it's help?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Oh yeah, you're right, you're right, help your assistant. Don't
come into play, y'all, clean your house, cleaning up. You're
gonna have help once you reasss that you're gonna have help. Yeah,
and you ain't gonna be responsible for all the other duties.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Like it's hard.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
You don't want to sacrifice your relationship, you don't want
to sacrifice your bond with your kids, you don't want
to sacrifice your dream and just work for somebody else
for the rest of your life. Like, so it's hard
finding that balance. And I'm still every single day looks different.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
So that's that you can even say, like that, yeah,
step closer, closer? Uh what lessons foreign motherhood have helped
you grow as a leader?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Mm hmmm. I think it would kind of revert back
to what I was saying before, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I want I want to be somebody that my kids
is proud of. Do you think that your kids are
probably as today?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think they are, but I want them to be
even more proud. And so I just like this is
a good thing and a bad thing about me. I'm
never satisfied. Yeah, And so what I mean by that
is Okay, So I wanted to make it on to
the radio. So now I'm on Sundays, but I'm like, okay,

(41:57):
well I'm not on like Saturdays and Sundays, you know
what I mean. Like, I but not just with the
radio thing, but with everything. I always want to go
to the next level. None that's wrong with that though,
So it could be frustrating too because then it's like, Okay,
at what point am I gonna be fully happy? But yeah,
I'll just say because of them, I want to like

(42:21):
keep leveling up or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
So they could be like, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
My low.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Right, you're a man, but she's always supposed to. Now
we're gonna switch it over to leadership with intentions from
the mic to the mobile bar. What inspires you to
step into entrepreneurship alongside your media career.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
So I've always been interested in the media world. And
actually when I was pregnant with my son, while I
was making my exit from one hundred prior the first
time I was in school for TV production and broadcasting,
I just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I love the media world.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
I love reporting stuff, I love entertainment, I love I
love talking, I love being informational. So I have that love.
But how I started the mobile bartender business is one
of my good friends have reached out to me and
she said, okay, girl, you know you a bomb a

(43:32):
word bartender, like everybody love you. Everybody loved you, and
she was like, I want you to bartend my wedding.
And I was like, well, I wanted to kick it
or whatever, but I'm like okay, and it was just
so amazing. Like on the contrary from like being a
bartender at the casino, a lot of times we're dealing

(43:53):
with angry people and then I really be trying to
turn their day around because they didn't lost some money
or they ain't had no business being down there in
the first place or whatever. But that like, why is
this stuff like that? Everybody's happy? Everybody like, ain't nobody mad? Right,
So it was just like a really fun vibe and

(44:17):
I like being a part of that.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
So from there, I started Elite Elixirs. I don't.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I kind of sleep on myself a little bit. And
now it's I just take bookings. That's like word of
mouth or whatever. I don't advertise it as much as
I should because I feel like I got a lot
of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Going on currently.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
But maybe when some of that stuff kind of pans
out and you Yeah, so that's like very part time
because I'm not superwhelming.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I'm trying to be.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I ain't there yet.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Listen, maybe you can get your daughters or some cousins
like it and they can go run to.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Be Yeah, I need a group.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, how do you lead differently as a woman in
spaces that are often male dominant or high pressure?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I will say, I just stand my ground. Like yeah,
I'll say, especially the the radio industry, it is primarily well,
at least the building I'm at is primarily men, and
people will try try you because you're a woman or whatever,

(45:31):
or unfortunately some women probably do flirt their way to
the top or whatever. But you know, I just kind
of stay in my lane and prove myself, like I
don't know, I just yeah, I'll be out the way,
I guess, and just show them better than I could
tell them that.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, I've seen you at the bars and you a
little but you fun. Yeah, I can receive it, right,
It's like, don't try her.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, I have a beautiful herb. But I'm like you.
I mean, I'm nice to tell them, not like. And
so if if I do be mean to you, that
means you you definitely deserved it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
What values drive your leadership, both as an elite and
on the airwave.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I'll say for both, it is just like human compassion,
being relatable, being transparent. I don't at any of the jobs,
I don't This is why I don't think I could
do like an office job. I just be myself and
sometimes that means crazy stuff don't come out of my

(46:41):
mouth or I'm very blunt, or I overshare, but I
just believe in walking in my truth and being who
I am or whatever.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
So yeah, get at that time, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I might regret it later, but probably not, because I
mean whatever you is funny.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Have you faced any challenges as a woman in a leadership.
If so, how have you turned those challenges into fuel
to your mission?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Hm?

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I wanna be careful how I work.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I would say, in a male dominated profession that we're
just supposed to look cute and get overlooked. I think
a lot of times like for like real opportunities, and
so I just make my noise Like, no, that's not
how it's gonna work. Well, how about we compromise. Compromising.

(47:49):
I want to give a specific example, but I can't
have my eyes water. No, But I would just say, like,
you know, make your noise, but you know, hey, I'm here,
I'm not I'm more than a cute face or whatever,
Like I know how to do this, just like X,

(48:11):
Y and Z.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You know what I mean period.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
So yeah, it takes a lot of I think the
women have to go the extra mile to like prove
their abilities.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
And I never understood that.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I don't want to make this until so I don't
really want to talk too much on it, but I
never understood that because we are a very smart, very
intelligent like we go above and beyond, and a lot
of men and the ego driven they that cost them
a lot, that cost them mistakes that they could have
fixed in the beginning because of their egos and being

(48:43):
driven like that. Were women, because we are nurtures and
all that would like to pay attention to detail, we
would have caught that long time ago.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, I'm saying. And I used to be scared to
make mistakes, but now, I mean, I don't like making
them too often, but I don't mind it. I'd rather
make them early on and you know, learn from that
early on how to move differently. So okay, and we
kept that cute.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
That's it. That's all.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
We're gonna switch over to legacy and empowerment. I want
you to speaking on earlier. What do you hope your
story inspired in other women, especially mothers and expiating leaders.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Inspire leaders. I will say.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
From the time that I was at one hundred the
first time, from five to seven, so now I just
knew I wanted to be on the radio ever since
I was a little girl. People be like, nah, it's
been like a couple of decades, like, no, give it up,
give it up, give it up, give it up.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
But I just don't take no fur an answer. So
I'll just say no matter if you.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
If you feel in your heart you striving towards something
you really feel like you're supposed to be doing, don't
give up. It don't matter if your man till you stop,
your mam, until you stop whoever, Like, just keep pushing
and God'll open that door eventually.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I love that. I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
If you're not asking me for concert tickets, that is,
if your child could take away one less thing from
watching your journey, what would you want it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
To be.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
That sometimes people are disappointing, but you have to remain
resilient through that.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Would it just how does it go?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Expect the expect the best, but wait, no, hope for
the best. Yes, you know what I'm trying to say, girl,
Oh yes, So like, don't do me before you're not right,
but just know the reality that it could be. Yeah,

(51:15):
so I try to give them a realistic point of
everything in life as you should, relationships to jobs, to
family dynamics, two shoot everything.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Oh yeah, now that's dope because they need to know that. Tom.
Can we put up a couple of comments on up there.
I guess you reading it's right there?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Can the Hey girl, habo, that's babe.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Hey, Levia Hay.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Said, you say? Letta said, Okay, this is true.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Trying to be our best everything. It's hard not to
push ourselves. That absolowly true.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, some days this seasier than others. It isn't. Your
body's gonna tell you when you need that break. Just
take that break.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, just take the break, but don't take too long.
Don't take too take too long. Take that break. That
break can be an hour or a whole day. But
after that you need to get back to business for real,
no matter what's going on, because life be life into everybody.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, you know what I mean, get back to the
thing too, Like we be like, well this is happening.
It's like something happening to everybody. But hey, you can't
let that slow your emotion.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
You can't you gotta push through?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
How do you stay grounded when life gets loud and
how do you return to your why?

Speaker 3 (52:43):
You know what, I found myself staying a lot lately.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I'd be like, I'm over stimulated. I'm gonna put that
on a bumper sticker.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
But I would say the way I ground myself, I'm
very much a peace a person, very outgoing, uh, very
talkative and personal. I'll be been to may five friends
in the grocery store line or whatever. But on the side,
I need to recharge. So my grounding is going back

(53:17):
to the house. And sometimes it's just being entertained on Facebook.
Sometimes it's just putting on my nineties R and B
and smoking my hookah. Sometimes it's just taking a nap.
But it's like alone time. Yeah, I'll be like, okay,
I just need me and these four walls and to recharge.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Do you communicate that with your family you need a
long time or you just take it.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
A lot of times I just take it and then
they be like, oh she you know, yeah most of
the time, or sometimes they'll come in there jumping on
my head or something because somebody are grown self. But
but most of the time they respect it. They're like, Okay, well,
you know she's just chilling in there or she taking

(54:08):
a nap or whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
So that's dope. That's really dope. So again before we leave,
I want you let them know a little bit again,
just touch a little bit about the Sister's truck right
where they can sign in on what you got coming up,
drop your tags, and then we want to leave them
with some closing remind.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
The Sister Shruck is our breast cancer walk that we do.
It used to be in October, but now we try
to beat everybody else because breast cancer but is technically October,
but we'd be trying to like I'll do everybody. So
it's time, y'all need to be having me a PARTA.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
It's September twenty seven. They can register at by one
hundred dot com and then put in the code words strut.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
My highest water y'all.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
So sorry, I'm making me cry. And yeah, it's really
dope vibes. It's like so much unity and empowerment there.
It's a lot of vendors, is dancing, it's singing, exercise
and it's a little bit of everything. And then like
I said, Jess hilarious, don't be there and me and

(55:20):
my coworker Trey White will be hosted with her.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
They might be doing a meet and Greek after the walk.
I'm not sure. They didn't say yet. They're still working
out some logistics.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
And then y'all can reach me on Facebook at Phoenix
leave Phoenix with two Eyes and then Instagram that period
girl period Phoenix and I am on Sunday morning seven
am to ten a m.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Period. And what is a takeaway?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I feel like it's walking out purpose. Oh don't we ordinating?
We ain't basic at all, and we I mean, we
like figure out what your purpose is at walking down.
Don't just like let life pass you by and be
eighty years old where all these regrets are, Oh I
should have did this or I should have did that.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Just every day walking your purpose.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Y'all heard what she said. Thank you so much for
being a part of Lucas Has No Face podcast.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
You were amazing. The energy was so super dope. It
matches your face period.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Now remember you guys know we are here every Wednesday
at six thirty live on all platforms, and if you
missed it, please go to Lucas aseno Face podcast to replay,
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