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September 4, 2025 56 mins
In this episode, we explore why self-care isn't a luxury but a lifeline when managing lupus and other invisible illnesses. Host Savannah Burks sits down with Kenda Qualman, the founder of Beauty Sleep, a luxury pajama brand, to discuss the critical role of rest, balance, and prioritizing your well-being. They'll share personal stories of resilience and wellness, exploring how quality sleep and comfortable loungewear can support both physical and mental health. She will also share insights from her book, Guide to Living Well with Lupus, and highlight her self-care classes, which are designed to help lupus warriors create routines that nurture their body, mind, and spirit. This conversation combines the real struggles of living with chronic illness with the joy of finding small ways to nurture yourself. Because when you’re living with lupus, self-care is healthcare. 💜

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
Thank you for tuning in to another wonderful episode of
Lupas Has No Face, the podcast where we talk about
real life, real struggles and the power behind Lucas and beyond.
I'm your host Sallana Verse, and we have our beautiful
my girl Kenda Coma in the building today.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Ya. What's going on, beautiful, oh girl? Just working, work
and working. You know how that is not a balance life. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Listen, that's a whole nother title for another episode, Real
for real that's coming soon, coming soon on this so
we will be discussing the essence of self care while
dealing with an autoimmune disease, while discussing the luxury brand
of beauty Sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yes, I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Listen, before we jump into all of that, y'all, let
me just show you I don't got it button up
because I'm in chill mode.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay, you call me mommy mo whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Y'all see this, this is super freaking sexy, Like I
love the extra and the GLAMs, it got the fi.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's really really soft. I watched this this is my
second time wearing it, and it's not stiff at all.
It's lavender. It got the far at the end of it,
and it's true.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I'll say it's it runs big because this is a
medium and it's it's very comfortable. You can definitely sleep
in it. I say it stretch, y'all. I love it
like it's people that I bought from. And if you
wash it, it get real stiff. I don't like it
at all, and I honest, I honest, like you could

(02:59):
tell like it it's stretched like it's it's very comfortable.
So you did a good job on picking this out.
I really appreciate that this is something I wear for
my man. Of course with no T shirt is brow
or not bra you know, you know how we do
that absolute but this is definitely luxury. This is definitely
on me all glam. So before we get into.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
All that, I was your day. I was your day.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It was good and I worked today, took care of
the kids, make sure they ate before I came traffic.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
You ain't bring me no plate. I didn't cook. I
ordered them, ordered them. I had to. I had to
go what I want. I ordered it real quick.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Windy's what we get over all, y'all want to go
over It's okay. See they normally get the windy normally okay,
oh my god. Okay, Well, being a mom never stops
right when sleep. That's the residual of nothing coming in
and I'm gonna say nothing. Could we be an investment

(04:01):
in our babies all time?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, okay, okay, we'll get love back. That's
what we get.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That is so they can take care of us. They
supposed to take care of us when we get old
and buy us houses and cars and cheer.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Y'all hear that that part? Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, can you share a little about your journey with
sloss and with inspiring you to create your beautiful brand
of beauty sleep?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah? Sure. So I'll start off with my scoliosis. I
actually injured my back really bad when I was a kid.
I was in a sledding accident. I hit a tree.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
My dad I never even knew that.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And yeah, yeah, my dad took a sledding and I
don't know if he didn't know this, but underneath the
snow there was a huge sheet of ice. So as
we're going down the hill, it got the speed picked
up way too fast, and as we're trying to slow
it down, it just wouldn't and we just smacked the tree.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
And I was trying to.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
As a kid, not knowing what I was doing, I
was trying to prevent my sisters from flying off the
back of the sled. So I put my legs out
and so I hit the tree with that impact and
when we're all the way at my back and injured
my spine. And I've been like that ever since. So
I've had to see chiropractors. I've had back spasm issues

(05:28):
over the years. Sometimes I get really really stiff in
my back. Sometimes because my back has a curve, I
have like an uneven walking pattern. So I've been dealing
with this my whole life, just from a sledding accident
from when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
That is Yeah, that is something. So for me, sleep
is essential.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Getting a good nice reds is essential because if I
don't sleep well, my back tenses up throughout the day.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Any type of stress can tick it off.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
And if I have that stress, then I get spasms
and those spasms can last up to five minutes and so,
and they're very very painful. There's been times I've been
at work, I have to completely stop working and lay
down on the floor just to relax my back, let
all my muscles relax, because if I don't, then it
just keeps going. And it's like this this contracting feeling

(06:21):
that I can't do anything about. So I have, you know,
I have to sleep with a certain pillow, I have
to lay on my side. I also have to have
like a pillow between my legs at times to balance everything.
And so sleep for me is important and it should
be important to everybody. But as one of the reasons

(06:42):
why I'm very keen on getting the right amount of sleep.
If I'm very, very tired and I don't go to bed,
my body reacts to that.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I get stiff and then I can spas out and
I don't like that. So that is so unique.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Like when I be on the phone sometimes you be
talking about I'll be looking at you like, girl, if
you don't get it together, I can't.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I be like if you don't come all like.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
But that is so crazy to me because what you
were what you're saying so, and it is something that's
called sleep hygien So if people don't know about it
looking up, it is something that calls sleep Hagen. But
you would never know. For people that don't know anything,
you look like nothing is wrong with you, right, You
don't have a pattern that you're saying.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well, somebody, why are you walking like that? Are you
in pain?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And it's like, no, I have a crooked spine. If
you really want to know, you know, and it's because
one side. I don't know if you can tell now,
but if you look at my shoulders, one is higher
than the other.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And it's because my spine.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's crooked and my spine has a curve because of
that accident, and it never went away.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Even with medical care, it doesn't get back straight.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
All they can do is work on it over time
so that it's not as bad, but you'll always have scoliosis.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Once you have it, it doesn't go away. Are you
in constant pain? No, not in constant pain.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
But before I was seeing a chiropractor, I was constantly uncomfortable.
There was this like really really difficult time for me
to relax, especially in my car driving long period of time.
There's been times I had to pull over on the
side of the road because my back started to spass.
So that's why I don't I've never been really a
big fan of driving a lot because of that, So

(08:31):
I bought a very special pillow. It's a T shaped pillow.
It's on my driver's side. That's the only side I
needed on. It gives me extra leverage and support on
my back so that I'm not leaning so far back.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And deep into the chair.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
It gives me that extra push forward and I haven't
had as many spasms since.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
That's good. So what else do you do, like on
your day to day?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Do you wear any like soul supports or likes.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I don't have a back brace, but I do have
a special pillow from my chair at work. It's like
a U shaped pillow, but it's it's kind of like
on an angle so that my body is shifted properly
while sitting.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
For long periods of time.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So I do have that an ergonomical seat as well.
Do your job supply that or do your make Yeah?
Everybody has one actually in the office, all of us.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But but they do provide they do provide it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
How has living with and seeing the impact of autoimmune
disease shape your outlook on the self care?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I would say listening to your body more and not
ignoring things. If you start to notice uncomfortableness, don't ignore
that because it's just gonna get worse.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's gonna get worse and worse.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's why, Like even when when I start getting tensed up,
that's my cue, get up and start walking around. Because
if you if I keep sitting there and keep trying
to clock stuff in instead of just moving around a
little bit, it gets worse and then eventually you know,
I'm gonna be the most uncomfortable person. So don't ignore stuff.
When your body's selling you something's wrong. If you have

(10:31):
the solution, go do it.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Go take care of it. Also, I have to stay hydrated.
That impacts my muscles, you know.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I do have i beprofen as well, just in
case I need it for inflammation, going for walks. Basically exercise,
get your exercise in your body. Yeah, I stretch a lot.
I have to stretch every morning before I do anything.
I need to stretch because if I don't that one move,

(11:03):
that one you know that ben all that that could
really ruin your day, throw you off. So just listen
to your body and take care of it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
So being that taking ivory profit for a long period
of time, right, it can not be so good for
your kidneys.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
What else do you do if you need to be medicated? Like,
do you do anything that's holistic. I have a heat
pad that I put on my back that helps quite
a bit.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It calms me down, and my mental has to be
calm as well, because if I start to panic when
I when I'm in pain, then.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
It starts it gets really bad.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I have to actually coach myself mentally and I'm
saying deep breaths, calm down, hot showers. I also use
a peppermint oil that's holistic. It's kind of like it
gives you that being gay effect, but without all the cares.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's natural. I smell like a peppermint but it works.
It works really good. Don't smell so yeah horrible.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah that stuff my mama put me on that. Just
go get you some peppermint well, and I infuse it
with coconut oil. Or I'll use like a raw shade
butter rub it, have my man rub it on my
back and it and it helps. It helps release the
tension in my back. Do you take any like eas
I don't. I just I don't know that just it's

(12:33):
something about the hard tub bending down, getting that low.
That doesn't really gratify me because you gotta get down,
you gotta.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Get in there, you got to settle in, and it's
very hard.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
So it's just I would rather take a really hot
shower and let the hot water run down my back.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
It soothes me.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And then I have like those they're like vapor rub
tablets that you put it in your water and it
just releases all of that what it's called eucalyptic. Yeah,
set that helps me as well.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
So if you ever just want to take a bath,
you think that, do something soak it in a tub
with excise like you will always want to do that, Okay,
Like literally I'm telling you, like that would literally save you.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like I'm just scared I'm gonna be getting in butt
naked and I'm a fall and my back because my
back be that by the time I'm thinking about doing
something like that, like my back you go for man,
imagine tipping over, like, ain't nobody there to help me?

(13:43):
You was not gonna fall, I swear, But I mean
I have used it in the past before the pankicks in,
but I've used it for other reasons like other body
and didn't help, Yeah, but it was easier to do it.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
It was in my back.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
It was like muscle pain from working out or something.
I've done it for that, but I haven't done it
specifically for my back.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Okay, we go with the self care, rest and resilience.
Many see self care as luxury, but for people with lupis,
scoliosis or other chronic conditions, it's a necessity. What does
self care mean to you personally?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Ah, self care for me means loving on myself. Okay,
loving on myself, and what does that look like? Just
really tapping into the things that that give my body,

(14:47):
Give my body the things that it needs, whether it's mental, physical, emotional.
Self care needs to be incorporated in different ways to
satisfy those things. So it's really just tapping into myself,
really looking within and discovering what makes me happy, what

(15:10):
makes me tick, how to set my boundaries, how to
love not just me, but everyone else that I love properly.
That's what it means to me, is just it's just
really putting that effort into, you know, making sure that
I'm okay, so do.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
You so do?

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Something has to happen in order for you to do that.
Or do you set time aside in order for.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
You to do that. I set time aside.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
But it's also some things that just naturally come to
play for me that I don't even have to think
about doing.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I just do it.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
So Yeah, Like I know every day that if I stretch,
it's gonna feel good and I'm gonna have a way
better day. I'm gonna have least the least amount of
possibility for injury. I know when I take my hot showers,
I know that it's gonna take some weight off my shoulders,

(16:11):
and so I do that twice a day automatically. Nothing
can tell me no, I'll kick you out the bathroom, Okay,
I lock the door, all that don't come in, don't knock,
none of that. Like, it's certain things I know that
if I do them, it just makes me feel better
and I'm gonna have a way better day, easier day.
And I even do it, like if I'm having a

(16:33):
bad day, I know that it's gonna take me out
that funk.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Ok So there are certain things that that's just automatic
for me. I don't even think about it. I just
know it needs to be done.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
That's how I am with certain things like showers. Yeah,
I have to take my shower a certain way. It's
a certain way all the time. My baps are a
certain way all the time. When I'm feeling in a funk,
I'm home alone. If you see me watch home alone,
something is wrong with me. And it's not always bad

(17:05):
bad bad, but I'm feeling away and home alone puts
me back. It gets me back together.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
So for sure, like that's that's all. They love it.
It puts me back in that group.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Where I can continue to kind of love, well do
love on other people, so I don't have to be
spatting now on other people.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I also like to sit in my car
and play some of my favorite songs and ride around.
That's another form of self care for me. I like
to have my alone time and vibe out and there's
nothing wrong with that, and get a good meal, you
know me, have a nice glass of wine.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
This girl ain't going nowhere. He ain't no food, especially
Paco Mexican food.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, y yes, yes, into one. I am ax. I
might as well be. It's in my blood somewhere. Funny,
Oh my god. Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Living with scoliosa can make sleep and comfort more challenging.
How has that influenced your approach to the to designing
luxury lounge?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Whereas of what I have.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
On, I would say, when you feel good, when you
look good, you tend to rest a lot better. If
your mental is right, if you if you know, if you,
if you make yourself, you know, do the extra things
that are going to put you at ease.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's all worth it in the end, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So for me, sleepwear is a passion of mine because
it's a reminder two people to say, Hey, sleep don't
have to be that thing that you like. Dang, I
gotta go to bed. When I was a kid, it
was like, dang, it's time to go to sleep. My
mom will tell you that I was one of those

(18:59):
kids that I never wanted to go to bed. I
always felt like I was missing out on something. And
even it carried on into like my twenties, Yeah, where
I was like, I'm not tired. I'm not tired, and
I will force myself to stay awake just so I
can do other activities when I should have been taking
my butt to sleep. But as I got older, it's like, listen,

(19:20):
go your butt to sleep. Now I could go to
sleep and there's no warning, You'll turn around and I'll
just be out of it. I know, yeah, But I
feel like sleep word helps me prepare myself mentally. It's
a part of my routine. It gets me together, get
ready for bed. It's become like a ritual, and I

(19:40):
think that that's something that everybody deserves. You deserve to
have that routine, that ritual, because that sleep, When you
get that real good sleep, you are so energized the
next day. You can focus a lot better, You're happier,
you tend to be a lot more open minded, you
can reflect on things, and things make more sense to you.

(20:02):
There's so many benefits to getting a proper amount of rest.
You're just better to yourself and you're better to the
people around you. And so make it fun. Make it
something that that you look forward to every day. A
lot of people either fall asleep and what they got
on you know, that's not really good. You really don't
get the best type of sleep like that when you

(20:22):
just pass out on the couch because you're so drained,
you're so wore out. You wake up wearing the same
thing you had on the night before. That's horrible, Like
it's horrible. Yeah, you feel yucky, you know. And if
you ain't, if you didn't get ready and prepare yourself
for sleep, more likely you ain't brush your teeth, you
ain't washed your hair, you know. And I've seen people
do this where they just pass out and it's like, no,

(20:46):
set yourself up to you know, to have a good
night's rest and make sure that it's something that you'll appreciate,
because if you do that, then it changes the whole
dynamic of what your life can look like.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I can just speak a little bit on that, Like
I'll just say today, like after I got out the
shower and stuff like that, I have a nice I
have a few nice rope but I took a nice
rope and I set up the table for a minute
and I just did a whole bunch of hours. I'm tired,
but I went to sleep in it. Eventually came out

(21:24):
of it, but I was right to sleep. And then
it makes you feel a way when you can put
something on and then even like you said, washing your hair,
if I don't wash my hair, even though I have braids,
your hair can make you feel like you're It makes
me feel like I'm sick. Like if I don't wash
my hair when it's supposed to be washed, Like maintenance

(21:45):
is a musk and it's going to tell you. You
know what I'm saying, It just seeks out into your pores.
So have it on something good. Training your kids to
have on something good like that is a success for.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Sleep hygen exactly, suc And there's a lot of things
I do too, Like I love I have this. It's
like a towel, but it's a it's got this it's
like a scrub material. Like it's like an exfoliating you
know how those loofahs are made out of the same
material as a lufa, But it's not a loofah. It's
a long towel and it's infused with like coconut oil.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
And I love using that. So I use that. That
helps get the you know, the the dead skin off
your body.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
It really really helps with like if you have egzema,
or if you have if you're prone to to body acne,
things like that, and it just it really really gets
you clean.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Like by the time you get out of there, you
you you ain't no nothing, ain't nothing. You know what
I'm saying. You are really really clean. So I mean
I do stuff like that. I love washing my face
in the shower.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I use two different face masks every day, exfoliating and
one that's moisturizing. And then you know, there's also other
masks that I use that's for like collagen and you know, brightening,
skin brightening, So you're doing that. And then then even
even with my lips, I'm using a lip scrub, using

(23:18):
an electronic toothbrush. We don't have to for like it's
a whole Yeah, people don't do that, and they need
to have that, and it's a lot that comes with it.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
They definitely need.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
To have that. Yeah, and it's necessary. Some guys really
really bad beds. It's like you really really just use
these things and you would be Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yes, that is they lazy. You are a mess.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
What are some ways rest and body alignment can effect
pain levels and overall wellness for someone with s or
chronic illness?

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oh? Repeat that.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
What are some ways rest and body alignment can affect
pain levels and overall wellness for someone witholiosis or chronic illness.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, so if you get the right amount of rest,
your body can can heal. You know, it can heal
based off of like all the activities that you did
throughout the day. We don't know that our body takes
a hit every day.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
When we're moving and grooving. We don't. We don't know
until we start to feel that pain.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And that's what our that's the signal that God created
for so we can understand, Hey, you're doing too much.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
But why wait for the pain.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Instead of waiting on this pain, uh, you know, do
the things preactively so that you can avoid feeling that discomfort.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
And so that's why.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, again, when I go to sleep now, I
don't I don't care what's going on. If I'm tired,
I'm not. I'm not gonna go anywhere. I'm gonna make
sure I listen to myself and I go to sleep.
I don't try to stay up and party all night
or nothing like that. But yeah, definitely getting that sleep
is important.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know, you know around what time your body tends
to shut down. Me, it's about nine o'clock every night.
Nine o'clock every night, that's when I start feeling like, okay,
it's about time to crash, you know, it's about time
to lay that down. But well before that, I gotta
get in my shower. You gotta do my routine and stuff,

(25:32):
and then you know, I can watch a couple of
shows and then by the time I start feeling that way,
I'm already in my sleepwear. I'm already in my bed.
I got my bond and on on my scarphone, or
my satin pillowcase is on my pillows, so I can
sleep peacefully.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Some other things I like.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I like having my fan owns even I don't care
what time the sound or the fan, or I like
putting on those soft music things on my rocal TV. Yeah,
and then you can hear that when you go, and
it just helps me sleep even deeper. Those deep sleeps
are way better than, you know, than that quick nap.
You know, some people do a quick nap, even though

(26:08):
naps are good, but that deep sleep necessary. You gotta
get that at least a few times a week. Got
to if you can't, it helps. It helps, It definitely helps.
But just to go back to what you were saying,
like back in the day, there was no I mean
it was, but it really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
No medicine. And sleep does help you heal. Sleep will
heal your body.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Like that's just what it is, so you do got
to listen to your body and before the pain comes you,
it slows you down. So when your body slows you
down and you not as fast as you was, it
already done. Told you like you, you don't need enough
because it lowers your speed. But for me, like I,
sleep has always been I have never been the type

(26:50):
that got eight hours of sleep.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, never, And you know I've heard that from a
few people, so you know, the only.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
One sleep For me. If I sleep eight hours, my
body is hurting. If I sleep eight hours, I'm sick
or something like that. I would love to sleep right
now for eight hours because I've been up for being
near three days, but girl forty seven hours. So for me,
it's like if I'm constantly going, going, going, going, and

(27:17):
I can't go to sleep, I will not leave the
house for about two days, so I won't be sleep,
but I will just be lounging around because I know
that my body needs the rest. So instead of like sleeping,
I'll be resting, you know what I'm saying, or just
going going on my going at my own pace and
just napping on and off. Like I don't know why
I can't sleep for for that long. Like, I just

(27:40):
my body just does.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Not do that well. I grew up with a father
who had insomnia and he was up all night.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm just like that, never be sleep, like go to bed, dad,
And because he wasn't getting asleep, he was grumpy a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's a grumpy man. Sometimes, Am I grumpy? Grumpy?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
No, all the time. All the time. No, but sometimes
you might be. But I think that's everybody. You gotta
be snappy.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And my dad, you know, he dealt with that and
he wanted to go to bed, but you know, but
I would wake up, go to the bathroom, and he
was on the couch in the living room, my mom
in the bed sleep and he up all night watching
reruns and who knows what.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And that's what I and that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
And I would take I would take sleeping pills or
like Mustard relaxers, and it would I know it was
it would allow me to sleep for hours.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, but then that's it.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I'm up and then I have to take another dose.
But I'm just like I'll be up, y'all know, four
o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the alorny, Like
it's just I just be up, like, I just be up,
and I don't know, and I probably do have asombiyah.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
I never got tested or they never told me, or
whatever the case may be. But I just always wanted them.
People that just be up, But I'll go to sleep.
I don't go to sleep anywhere. But if I'm in
the car, I'm going to sleep. But when we at
our spot make their I'm up like so I don't know, Like, yeah,
I be ready.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Some people take your melotonin, but.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I'm scared of that because it can messed with your
body's natural ability to create it and then it becomes
dependent on no supplements.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Yeah, that's why I don't never want to be dependent
on anything. And I don't never want to oversleep because
I always got somewhere I need to be.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
So I don't know. One thing I always wanted to
do is sleep in, and it never happens.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
My sleeping in is laying around watching movies. I don't
be sleep but I laying Yeah, I'm laying around.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
So people that sleep eight hours in y'all love to
sleep eight hours and y'all rejuvenated. Cool, because it has
to be really dark in the room.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I'm trying to put libraries over my head. I don't
toss turn. I may get four hours.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I get at least six, at least six. Yeah, and
even now when I got off and went to sleep,
it was up and damn. It's like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
But I also want to remind people though, you though,
like sleepwear for me is also a way to enhance
your intimate moments with your friends. So you got your
girls nights out. Some people are throwing pajama jams. I
know Mark just hosting his pajama party September thirteenth, That
creepy eatery shout out to Mark and Diamond. They are

(30:33):
hosting a birthday party for him. It's Virgo season. Shout
out to all the virgos too. I'll fuck with y'all.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Uh uh, your baby is a I was gonna get
to down. You beat me all to it.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Happy birthday, my princess baby. Yeah, happy birthday, Happy fifteenth birthday.
So we're gonna go to your branding mission. Your pajama
brand focused on both luxury and comfort. How do you
see comfort supporting lounge where benefiting people who deal with

(31:12):
auto I mean disease.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I would say the comfort part of it. It helps you,
It helps you deal with UH, with your with your
disease a little bit easier. It makes it makes your
life a little bit more functional if you are, you know,
doing things at home or if you have people coming

(31:38):
over things like that, that's like one less thing that
you got to worry about. Is am I presentable? Am
I presentable? Or you know, if is what I'm wearing,
you know, does it make me feel feel good or not.
I've worn some things that weren't sleep where, like just

(31:58):
throwing on a T shirt or just going on, you know,
just like a regular pair of shorts that I might
have at home, and it just don't feel the same.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
It is.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I feel like a bomb. I'm just being real, like
I be feeling like a straight bomb. Like I'm just
walking around looking rough and and my man, I'll say, like,
you look like you look like a little you know,
a little time boy right now, you know, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Like, shut the hell up talking to me.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
But when I wear my sleep where, it's like, oh, mabe,
you cute, you know, And so I just I think
it's just it reflects on just the way that you
feel without even realizing that it does, and so I
think somebody with with an autoimmune disease that takes advantage

(32:46):
of something like this. It just helps them to you know,
feel calm, help them to feel relaxed, help them to
still feel beautiful, because there's different symptoms that they're facing
that can make them feel uncomfortable or make them feel
you know, make them feel different than what they're they're
used to. And so this just adds an element, you know,

(33:08):
that that gets them something excited about something and still
gives you that comfort in your home where you you
just feel, you still feel like there's a luxury experience happening.
One of my one of my customers, she's she's elderly
and she's battling a disease I can't pronounce, and it's

(33:29):
so bad that she couldn't even come to me to
get her pajamas. I took a whole wardrobe of pajamas
to her house, a lot of the stuff, yeah, that
I had in stock. Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
She said, can you.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Please come to me and I and I said, I
don't normally do this, but I'll do it for you.
I took a whole bunch of inventory by her and
I let her pick what she wanted. She bought over
three hundred dollars worth of merchandise, and she said, I
just want to feel beautiful again, and I want to
feel beautiful in my own home. And I guess she

(34:00):
was feeling like I was feeling at times. You know,
when you don't have that type of stuff, you just
feel a little bummy. You know, you just you already
don't feel good. And now you got on these, you know,
up clothes or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Did you feel that she reached out to you, that
she was able to just uplift her in that way
with withhow line?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
It felt great? It felt great. Matter of fact, I
cried with her when we were there. We had a moment.
She was telling me about how she felt like God
brought me to her. She was, uh, I don't know.
She was just very she was very calm when we
came in. She was she was just happy.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
And she sent me pictures of her wearing it. She
posts about it, and she she doesn't she doesn't she
doesn't like certain things. So like she's like, I get
hot when I'm sleep, So can you you know, can
you give me this?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Can you give me that?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know? And it feels nice to be able to
accompany her and have those conversations with her, but also
know that I'm I'm making a change in her life
and it's impacting her ability to heal because she feels good.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
That that is dope. Because I got sick at a
very young age.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
I have.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Ninety percent of my pajamas are matches because I wanted
to feel beautiful because I was in the hospital a
lot when I was younger, you know, So shout out
to everybody that came out to the hospital that did
my nails and did my hair. So I had people
that came to my house that did my you know
what I'm saying. They still was able to accompany me,

(35:41):
to still give me the glam look that that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And that means a lot when you're still able to
have those.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Upkeeps like that, because it's one thing to be sick,
but it's a a whole nother thing not to be
able to be dressed.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, not only do you feel sick, then you look
in the mirror and you just you like, oh, and
that just I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
That does something to me.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Even when I got a cold, you know, walk around
hair sticking up all over my head, and you know
you just you know it just it just it does
something and and I can't explain it, but I guarantee
you that if you take some time to pick out
a few pieces, just even just the lounging, you ain't
gotta sleep in it if you're not someone that wants

(36:25):
to sleep in it.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
But if you even just lounging in it in your house,
I swear it just does some to you.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
You all colored up, got your silkie's, got your book,
maybe you made yourself a nice glass of tea, you know,
and you know you just it helps you to just release, right,
It's like a release moment.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I don't I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Just being in the house with your kids like for me,
for me, like I like to just still have that
grown woman.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Look.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
You know what I'm saying, no makeup on, hair, hit thumb,
got your house shoes on, you know what I'm saying,
still looking.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like the Yeah, and if somebody rings my doorbell suddenly
I can run down there and open it and my cheeks.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah you know good. Oh you got some comments, baby,
Thank you guys for joining King.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Can you please read what's on the screen. Yes, that's
my cousin Andrea, Hey bad Hey Andrea. Blackout curtains are
the key for many I've spoken to. Absolutely, that definitely
helps to get that light out and help you unwind. Quentin,
Happy birthday. That new photo shoot is a musk, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

(37:41):
we recently did a photo shoot here in the studio.
Shout out to Tom, shout out to the last photos. Yes,
it's powerful, yes sir, and thank you to Q for
the last photo shoot we did.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I appreciate that. Yes, what a blessing dress says? What
a blessing?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It's nice to be beautiful and be comfortable despite feeling icky.
Absolutely that part, that's that part right there.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes, first, for sure, for sure, what your go to
self care rituals on days with scoliosis or illness makes
everything feels harder.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
So again, doing those stretches, sometimes doing yoga, sometimes doing
a full yoga workout can just really really get those
muscles loose and pop them bones and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
You be feeling that stuff and you hear it pop. Yeah,
people don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Real people don't understand that when you have like autoimmune
diseases like ARA or anything of that nature.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
They like we already are in pain. Why we work out.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
It is very beneficial for you to continue to work
out so you don't be in the pain. In pain
letter or restricted is very very important. Do you see
yourself because you have scoliosis and know people with other
autoimmune disease, and you do have a nice luxury brant,
do you see yourself like eventually having contracts to going

(39:13):
to hospitals or going online and you know, delivering to
people homes and you know, being that filler for people
that want to still feel to be seen still in
the community.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, that's not being anything I can do.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Anything I can do because I really want people to
take advantage of even just the smallest things that can
be life changing. So that's why I'm always encouraging people.
You know, if there's something that is going to change
the quality of your lifestyle as simple as a set

(39:50):
of pajamas, it makes sense. Shout out to seventeen hundred
pull up and Rosetta. She had surgery and I want
to help her feel comfortable during that difficult time, and
so I dropped off a pair of pajamas to her
at her restaurant to help assist during her recovery because

(40:16):
she she's just such a beautiful soul.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Shout out to Rosetta.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
She's a beautiful soul. And I felt like she deserved
to feel, you know, feel wanted, feel loved, but also
just to feel as comfortable as possible during her healing journey.
And so I brought her her favorite color pair of pajamas,
which is also your favorite color, purple. I dropped those

(40:39):
off to her and she said, Hey, whenever I wear pajamas,
I wear those. Those are the ones I wear. She said,
I love them. They're my favorite color. And she said,
thank you for bringing those to me. And it's just
I don't know anything I can do.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Oh my god, that just made me get chills in
my body. Not for real, it was that just makes
me get chills in my body. Because remember the girl
I told you about her name Shiny.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
She was in Texas.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
She's back here now, and this is what my hair
was falling out. And I didn't want nobody else touching
my hair. And she specialized in wigs and natural hair.
And I was talking to her. I'm like, I gotta
go into the hospital for surgery. She came all the
way to my house wash my hair, did my wig,
made sure I was looking good when I was going
to the hospital. Janelle made sure my nails was good

(41:23):
before I went into the hospital, like I was. My
team like came through and that meant so much because
they knew that I didn't want to be seen like that,
so they made sure I was good. So I have
people like you to make sure we could still keep
our confidence and still feel like a human being while
going through what we're going through. That means so so

(41:44):
so much. Like words can't even describe what I am
trying to convey, Like I couldn't even get the words out,
like it just like I'm trying not to get emotional,
but it's just like it's crazy because even when I
was in the hospital, I think I was in the
hospital for like three months, and I would call them
like I need my nails up and she was like,
they won't let me come in here because of the funeral,

(42:06):
like you know, but they tried, and it was just
it just means so much to people when they are
sick and still trying to keep their confidence.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yea, and that from Tropic shout out to my girl.
Y'all gotta make sure y'all visit a tropic on Water Street.
I always call it a blackwater Street.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
That at this time, she.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Stopped in at the store. The store, guys, just yes,
she came in and she's so dope.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I love her. I love you, girl. I gotta come
see you. She's so dope.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
She's like, Hey, I'm gonna be having surgery on my mouth.
I'll get i gotta get some done on my teeth,
and I'm gonna be down for the count for a
few days.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
So I'm gonna come see you.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
So she stopped in, Guys, if you don't know, I'm
inside of the Middle Clothing Company located at two thousand
North Farwell. She stopped in picked out a set of
pajamas for herself, her daughter, and I think it was
her niece too. She just wanted to feel beautiful while
she was healing, and she made a video and she's
talking about guys. I don't even know what they did

(43:13):
to my mouth. All I know is they did something
and it's supposed to help me. And she was like,
and I waited to wear these beautiful pajamas until this day,
she said.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I waited.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I kept them on hold for this very moment, and
she just felt good just wearing them, even though she
felt crappy. It really contributed just to that, you know
what I'm saying, to the overwhelmed being and her and
her healing ability, just because she felt good even though
he was feeling bad.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I don't think people understand what it is that they do.
What they delivered the people that are sick.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, yeah, like it's amazing, and I want you to
keep doing what you're doing. You know what I'm saying.
It wasn't in your mission, and I feel like you
should make it in your mission. Absolutely, you understand what
I'm saying, because it's it's a need for it, and
some people don't know how to ask for it. Some
people do know how to ask for it. And it's

(44:10):
and it's not just these pajamas, you know what I'm saying.
You have shorts, you have sexty lingerie, you know what
I mean. You have a tool, you have party favorites,
you know what I mean. You have house shoes. So
it's not just this you guys, you have other things
that you guys can go check out on her website.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You won't be sorry. You won't be sorry. Imagine that
you won't be sorry. Yes, she is one of my models.
You don't just talk. She walked the walk.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
She has pillow cases for us that to can you
get this? She has pillowcases that you can put on
your bed, so when you want to look cute for
your man and you don't want to put your hair
up and you still want to look sexy, and the pillows,
she has those. But it's four, So all four pillow cases.
You know what I'm saying. Definitely, definitely check her out.

(45:07):
You won't be sad. You definitely won't be sad. And
it's it's a it's a secret in the bag talking
about Copper family where y'all be on the lookout because
they gonna go fast. It's not a permanent thing. Yeah,
so but for sure you washing in cold water on
gentle cycle. I mean, listen, this is the second world

(45:28):
and this is not matter. It's still fluffy, you guys.
I don't know if you guys can see it, but
this is still fluffy. My review would be great, and
I mean the stitch is still gooding.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I have no complaints. That's why I got more than one,
more than two.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
I got the sexy I got now she got sexy,
nice luxury, and she got exotic.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I didn't know exotic stuff here. I don't thinking thing about,
but y'all that fans are lace. Yes, she got that
gott it stuff. You know what I'm saying. So make
sure you guys hear her up and before we get off,
because I know here, what was the.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
What was the the drive behind this is like what
caused you to create such of a brand and and
didn't start off as a luxury girl?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Me, my mom, and my sister went to Wisconsin Dell's
and we were all packing our stuff and when we
got there, it was bedtime and we realized all of
us had T shirts and regular day wear stuff to
sleep in. And we were all like, look what we
got on, and my mom said, yeah, it's nothing cute

(46:47):
out there. Like you can go to Target, you can
go to Walmart. Nothing is really cute. Like it's basic,
and like, hmm, you know it's okay, but like you
don't really feel that cute in it. You just feel
like you put something on. And and that's when I said,
you know what if we started our own sleepwear brand.
And they was like, ooh, that's a good idea. And
I said, and what if we called it beauty sleep

(47:09):
because we clearly don't want nothing ugly to sleep in, right,
So that's where beauty sleep came in is, you know,
we want to be cute all day and we want
to be cute when we sleep at night.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So that's how that that came to be. And we
just started doing our research.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
We start looking at what was trending, we start looking
at what some of the other companies are doing, and
then we had to figure out what was going to
separate us from everybody else. Over time, you know, I've
been able to put the pieces together and figure things
out on you know, what I like and what other
people like, and you know, it's it's a revolving door

(47:47):
that you know that I enjoy stepping in because I
find myself bringing in exciting pieces like the one you
have on That was a limited up set that that
I had and I hadn't restocked on it yet, but
I will, you know. But I brought an other pieces too,
fun prints you and Jocelyn. Shout out to Jocelyn aka

(48:09):
Rose as well, also one of the models y'all see
here on the flyer wearing all black there and shout
out to Jasmine as well. But Jocelyn was a part
of the photo shoot with you when I brought out
my first animal print line. So animal print is like
top fashion, you know, It's one of those those prints

(48:32):
that never gets old.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
It is always always. You can wear it with a.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Heel, you can wear it with a slipper, you know,
you can be barefoot, you can wear your favorite cozy socks.
You can turn it into whatever look you want to
based off how you accessorize it. So you literally can
accessorize your sleep werk like you accessorize any of your
other clothing. And so it's still a fun thing, which
is why you got a lot of pajama jams. You

(48:59):
got girls getting together doing birthday parties, wearing pajamas, matching
sets or even just being creative on how they do that.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
You know what I was like, Yeah, what's up some heels?
How shoe heels? Girl? How shoe heels? And the moves.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
I was looking at sisters they had moves on to
kill ones, you know, and trying to tailor had one on.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
That's the struggle is some people don't care what's on
their mo moves. They don't care. They just you know,
they just it's comfortable. They called it the fried chicken dresses.
Nothing just flowing free. And I thought about that. I
thought about it.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
It's something I'll talk to you about and it could
come in the future, but I want right now. I
think I'm just trying to lock down this particular side
of it, and that's that's coming later down the road.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
But I have added nightgowns to to my line. I
have the Romance gowns and they are so nice and soft.
They feel like, yes, have a stretchy material.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
They got the lace detail, adjustable cami straps for you know,
for whether you have bigger boobs, whether.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
You have smaller boobs.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
It's a really really nice addition to whether if you're
trying to feel sexier, if you're just trying to just relax.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
It comes with a g string. You can either wear
it or you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I don't put under there, so you know. Yeah, So
I added that, Tom, we got some comments up here when.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
You get the moon and hit me up cousin.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
That movie, boy, we gotta get some Okay, what device
would you give to those who feel guilty for slowing
down or prioritizing their body needs?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Don't feel guilty there, Yes, that's feel guilty.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Where can listeners contact I mean connect with you, learn
about your learn about you, or join yourself. But hold on, sorry, y'all, listen,
don't beat me up, don't come for me. It's work
in forty seven hours, last three days. So tell the
listeners where they can find you at house.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yes, if you are not following Beauty Sleep on Facebook,
please do please follow me. I'm at one point nine
k followers right now. I'm trying to get to two k.
Help me get to two k, y'all. I'm also on
Instagram Beauty Sleep Intimates. Follow me there, help me get past.
I think I'm at like two hundred and sixty seven

(51:45):
followers or so.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Help me get to like three five hundred, y'all. I
need your help. Let's uh. But you can certainly find
me there.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
You can also visit my website, Beauty Sleep intimates dot com.
You can place your orders. The cool thing about my
way site is you can place your order to pick
up from two thousand or farwell, just select pick up
and you can pick up your order. You can select
shipping so you can have a ship to you and
dropped off you can also select delivery because I will

(52:16):
bring you your stuff. Maybe you are sick, like we
talked about at an extra cost. Maybe you are sick.
Maybe there's someone that you want a surprise. Maybe it's
their birthday, maybe it's you know, an anniversary or something,
and you want to surprise them. And not only did
you order flowers, but now I'm dropping off pajamas. It's
a really good addition experience. Yeah, it's a really good

(52:36):
addition I and I would love to see y'all come
to the store. Like that's my utmost favorite thing is
to be able to meet my customers. So you guys
can actually feel the vibes and you can hear a
little bit more about where I'm coming from. I'm also
giving you a consultation service when you come. A lot
of people ask me, you know, well, how do I

(52:57):
know if I should wear this one or this one?
You know? Or how does this feel? And you get
to actually feel the material. You can even try things
on if you actually come to the store. So it's
a different type of experience if you actually come in.
But I do have the website for a reason for convenience,
So if you need that convenience, go ahead and use it.

(53:17):
So yeah, and it's coming soon.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
She has a subscription that is coming soon that it's
only gonna be for people that subscribe to her subscriptions,
so make sure you be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Also, I do have self care classes that's available by
appointments on my website Lucas haasnofface dot com by appointments only,
So whether you need to be it could be anything
self care about anything that false and self care. So

(53:48):
if you need any advice or need to be dibbling
de land and that I do have my certifications for that,
so please do go on a website for that. Do
you have any advice that you want to leave with
the listeners for essence of self care while dealing with
an autoimmunity?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
If you care about yourself, if you love yourself, and
if there's someone else that you love, give them, give
them pajamas, give them sleepwear. They'll never never be disappointed
and receiving that. That's a gift that just keeps on
giving because they get, like you said, it's a quality thing.
They can continue to sleep in it. It's gonna last

(54:27):
them a long time, you know. Bring it to the
hospital after someone's had a baby so that they can
you know, have that when you know while they're nursing,
you know, give it to a friend on their birthday.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
It's very stretching, you guys.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
It's very stretchy and it's and like I said, it
really shows that you're taking their overall health into consideration.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Which what's a better gift than that, you know, So
there's so many things that comes with it. So I
would love to see you guys again come to the store.
Also have two things going on.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
If you don't know if it is your birthday, if
it is your birthday month, if you come into the store,
show me your identification that it is your birthday month.
And like I said, I know it's a lot of
virgos out there. You get half off on your pajamas
just because it's your birthday. Your first set of pajamas,
you get half off if you come to the store
during your birthday month. The other thing that I have

(55:23):
going on is the Beauty Sleep membership. If you buy
two pairs of pajamas in one month, you get your
third pair half off. So if you're someone who wants
to build up your sleepwear wardrobe. That's the perfect opportunity. Toys, you, guys, exactly.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Yep, I got date night toys, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
I've got a girls' night debck cards, you know, like
she said, slippers, I've got a lot of different things, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
So yep, those roses I had went, I got to
reorder up. Please.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Okay, thank you so much for coming. I'm definitely gonna
have to bring you back. Please follow, subscribe, come visit
the Storm until next time, Bye, guys,
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