Madonna Worship The Podcast Episode 006: We Are The Gods!

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
K Stev.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh my god, we're back. We had such an eventful
it was such an eventful Madonna time since our last episode.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
You know, I have to say I did nothing all summer,
Like my summer was so boring. However, the past like
two weeks have been the most fun.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Like a cavalcade of events and stuff. It was.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
It was probably like, like so good. We had such
a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
We really did, so what a perfect way to.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
End the summer. That was the highlight of my summer.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Truth exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean I worked a lot all summer and earlier
in the year. I did a lot of traveling with
all the Madonna concerts instead of jew But like from
June on, it was like work, work, work, work, work,
working at a gay bar. You know, you're stuck in June.
You have no choice but to work. And then August
came around, and you know, we had Madonna worship at

(01:32):
three dollars Bill, which was super successful. Exceeded my expectations
on our actual birthday for the first time ever in
sixteen years, which was pretty wild because when I started
We've talked about this before. It used to be I
used to do a party at Nowhere Bar on the
first Sunday of the month. So every anything that I
did any kind of theme, like I did a Princes

(01:54):
theme one month, I did a d light theme one month.
But August was for Madonna. And that was two thousand
and nine. That was the very first Madonna worship. I
don't even know if I called it Madonna worship the
first time, but it was all I did, all Madonna,
and I was sixteen years ago. And finally, you know,
and then when we when I moved into Stonewall, it

(02:15):
was closer to her birthday, used to be her birthday
weekend or whatever. But it's so weird how it never
fell on her actual birthday until this year.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
The stars aligne yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I mean it was.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
It was a celebration year, like it was such a
such a big year and a half for her, and
you know, to have it fall on her birthday. And
the funny thing is, I got I got some flak
from people. I'm like, this isn't good for people who
have like nine to five jobs, because we're tired on Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I go, I go.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Friday is my like like not my heyday, but that's
usually my like my day to work, you know. So
it was it's funny that people. A few people were like,
I'm glad you're doing it, but I wish it was
on Saturday, And I'm like, okay, well maybe next year,
next year her birthday.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I work a full time job Monday through Friday, and
I traveled two hours.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
To get a dollar bill.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
But you know, Madonna fans are of a certain age
right now, because you know, if you followed her from
the beginning, you're definitely close to forty or over fifty.
It's that range now, So like we're getting up there
because even I think that's why a lot of people
are like bitching about how late her show started, because
these people are older, you know, and you know, a

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lot of them, if they're not gay or if they're
not a fag hag, they have kids and they have
to like I mean, their kids are probably a little
older by now. But it's like, it is funny. It's
like Taylorshrift fans, Beyonce, even Beyonce fans are getting up there,
like they're in their mid thirties, late thirties, because she
came out like twenty something years ago already, so.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Beyond well, yeah, if you count Destiny's child very very
late nineties.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, so's it's pretty wild when an artist is out
for that long and you've been a fan from the beginning,
you know. I've mentioned it before. I'm an MTV baby.
I was like five years old when MTV debuted on
on on cable, and back then we had the cable
box that was that had the wire that connected and
when you pushed one channel, the other channel opped it

(04:19):
back up, so it was like old school cable box.
And then eventually the remote controls came out. But I
used to love that little brown box. Are you old
enough to have the brown box?

Speaker 3 (04:31):
The brown box, like like the brown box that gave
you all like the the channels.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, like it was. It was.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
It was this brown and like like beigey tope color.
The buttons were like off white, and the box was
brown and it almost looked like a like a really
wide calculator in a way. And that was like the
first cable box. And it was actually plugged into your television,
like you couldn't like it was it remote, so you

(05:01):
really couldn't lose the remote because it was it was
attached to the television.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Attached to the I think I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I got I got about
ten years on you. So when I was a little kid,
like uh that was our first box. I mean I
actually remember UHF on television where you would have to
flip flip the television channel to UHF or to channel three,
and that's how you got cable. So it's amazing the
way technology has improved. Now we're watching things on our

(05:31):
little on our little pocket in our pocket, the things
that are in our pockets, our phones. But back then
you had to like pocket yeah, I mean back then
you had to like you had to like get it
like a like the rabbit ears. You had to get
like you know, antenna to catch your things. And then
I remember somebody was talking about this a couple of
weeks ago, like where you would get you would get

(05:52):
the cable channel that was like the dirty channel, like
the like the late night Cinemax and Showtime, and you'd
see it, you'd see it through the fuzz like you'd
see people like having sex to the fuzzy television thing.
It's pretty funny. And also, you know, I was thinking
of while I was doing like promo for I was
figuring out like promo material and like videos and stuff

(06:12):
for Madonna worship. Do you remember the Hard Candy promo
where it was like call Candy or whatever, and it
was like it started out it was like a little
commercial for Hard Candy the album, and it was like
it started out with like a like an aerobics channel,
and then it was like a dance party and then
it was like, yes, it did. Like Candy Shop was
like she really I think she really thinks she really

(06:33):
loves Candy Shop.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
You know, I don't hate Candy Shop.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I don't either, I definitely don't.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think I think it says a lot about her career,
Like it's you know, tells you, you know, see which
flavor you like and I'll have it for you.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Like it's more like it's not just a love song. Yeah,
it's not just the love song.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
It's more for like what kind of you know, like
the courtision that she is or like the you know,
the clown, the the entertaining, the gesture.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Because I remember during m DNA when when she performed
it and I was like, oh, she put this in here,
huh Okay.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I think it was meant to be the first single.
I think it was. I think it really.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
I wouldn't have hated it. I wouldn't have hated it
if it was a single.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I just wonder what kind of like, what kind
of video, what kind of presentation it would have been,
because four minutes isn't my favorite song. But but like I,
I was digging it back then, and it's it's not
it's not such a terrible song in the long run.
I just it's it's just has Justin on it. So
it's like Justin so despised right now, and uh, he's

(07:40):
fallen from uh pop music's graces, so it's kind of
weird to hear it and how much influence you had
on that album.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But even even some of the other like the out
the other album tracks like dance Tonight. I really enjoy
Dance Tonight, but I prefer it better if Justin wasn't
in the intro. I don't mind him singing back up,
but just now, I'm not. I wasn't into it then,
but you know, I obviously listened to it.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I think it's a really good song, and it could
have it could have been just a solo song.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's great. A lot of people
like Scoff at it When I say that, I'm like,
why no, I'm the same thing with Candy Shop, though
people scoff at Candy Shop.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, I almost think I almost think that that Dance
and Night should have been the single rather than four minutes,
And I think it would have would have like hit
a little harder, Like I don't know, it's like it
was like kind of slinky.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
It kind of had a groove. It wasn't like in
your face.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
It was just kind of like It's also one of
her songs about being you know, like you don't have
to be beautiful, you know, you know, to be you know,
to be understood, like you know, it's it's very much
like in the vein of Spotlight, in the vein of
over and over, in the vein of like you know,
be yourself, you know that kind of that kind of song.
So because four minutes was almost four minutes, was also

(09:03):
kind of like foreboding and kind of like, I don't
I don't think people understood the like the whole premise
behind it, like the doomsday clock, Like I don't think
they understood why it was four minutes because supposedly the
doomsday clock is like four minutes to midnight. So that's
where that that whole idea of four minutes to save
the world comes from. And I don't think people people

(09:25):
knew that or whatever.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I don't think people. I don't think people knew that. Now.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I was today years old when I realized what four
minutes was about.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But you know, people go crazy when it's played in
bars and clubs.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, I think I think I think it spoke to
the young, the generation of that time, like we might
have been a little like, oh this sounds a little
dated or it's not dated. It kind of had like
a I don't know. I think the beat was just
unusual for her. Maybe that's why it kind of stood out.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I think it sounds dated now to listen to it,
does it sound Does it sound old?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I don't think so. I think it has that that
timeless hip hop beat in a way.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
But also, like.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I think a lot of the negativity about Hard Candy
came from the fact that, like some of the demos
that didn't make the album and some of the just
the tracks in general sounded a little like Nelly for
Tado's stuff and for real.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Some influence, didn't she she was she was involved a
bit with with Hard Candy because wasn't was given wasn't
wasn't give it to me. That was like originally like
a demo that was given to her and she didn't
want it.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh really was that it?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think I might be.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Because I noticed the the demo Animal that didn't make
announced the album is very man Eater like. It sounds
like like she said, Okay, Timboland, I really like man
Eater and it was a hit, So let's make a
song like man Eater.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I think she had something, But I do know that
Heartbeat was like there's a there's a version of Heartbeat
out there that is sung by somebody else.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So for all just kind of handed that to her.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think that was the big issue with Heart Candy
is that as she was going through a divorce and
who knew we were gonna start talking about heart Candy today.
Today's episode is about heart Candy, I guess, but uh,
we somehow got there. But that's what's great about this podcast.
We just kind of go with the flow and we
have a good time and we just have an amazing conversation,
and that's that's the beauty of it. But a lot

(11:30):
of the songs from Heart Candy, and it was also
like she was going through the divorce, the evil divorce,
and she also it was a little bit of a
midlife crisis in a way. And also it it like
fulfilled her contract, right.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
M Yes, well that was the closing album. That was
That was the last album, and then she had to
do the Greatest Hits, which was Celebration for Warner Brothers
before she went off to Universe. Was universal.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yes, I think I think a lot of the negativity
about Hard Candy, or like just the qualm about it
or whatever. I don't know if I'm using that word
properly was that it was kind of like thrown together
in a way, like you know, and also some of
the songs were I mean, right before that was Confession,
So we had this disco, beautiful, new wavy like monolith

(12:30):
of an album with a beautiful tour and really like
all the visuals, everything about Confessions was pop perfection. And
then she kind of did this weird like Hippiiti hoppity
kind of I would say Hippi Happy as a joke
for yours. She kind of went in a direction that

(12:51):
even Stuart Price didn't kind of want her to go in,
which was kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But you know, a lot of people, a lot of
people really like Hard Candy.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Though, no they do, and it is it is a
fun album to listen to.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
It's a little funky. There's a little funk element to it.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
My only my biggest criticism of the album though, is
that when she, you know her, the last album that
was similar to.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
It was Bedtime Stories.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
It had the you know, like a lot of samples
and a lot of funk and R and B and
all that kind of sound. Her voice back then was
pre Evida and she still kind of had the growl
and she still kind of had the like untrained voice.
This album Hard Candy. Like, I love Heartbeat, but there's

(13:41):
a point, there's points in Heartbeat where if she sang
Heartbeat in nineteen ninety four, Heartbeat would have had a
lot more soul to it in a way, but her Heartbeat,
Heartbeat turned out on Hard Candy to have like it
was a little like like the high parts were a
little they didn't kind of fit in the in the

(14:05):
R and B groove or the R and B sound.
I think, I don't know, it was kind of it.
I definitely loved it when it came out I have
really good memories of it when it came out. Played
it a lot at work. When I used I used
to work at Housing Works. I used to play it
all the time at the store. People used to love it.
The ballads on there are great. Devil wouldn't recognize you
as amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
We're gonna have to do a whole hard candy episode.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, we definitely do.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
But and the cool thing is one of our performers
from Madonna Worship did like the ultimate hated Madonna song,
Spanish lesson. Tea Boy did Spanish lesson and everybody hates
Spanish lesson. Well not everybody, but most people hate Spanish lesson.
And when he told me he was doing when he
told me he was doing Spanish lesson, I was like,
you better work because it was you know, he Tea

(14:53):
Boys phenomenal Tea Boys amazing. But I was not expecting
him to pull that song out and it was pretty
pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
But he rocked it.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
They did. They did really good. They did so many
of the performers. I was blown away.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, we had a We definitely had a cavalcated performers,
the most performers that I've ever had for Madonna Worship.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I have a hard time saying no to people.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
And originally there was like a whole opening number that
was going to happen and that kind of fell through.
So the three of the four performers were still a
part of it, and I'm happy the way it all
turned out. But I was like, oh, there's gonna be
no time for a dance party.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know. We had to start as soon as possible.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
There absolutely was like I I was out until three o'clock. Yeah, no,
it was you know me, I'm like two o'clock comes,
I'm like, all right, good, I have a good night.
I'm gonna go home. Meanwhile, here I am three o'clock.
I'm like I kind of want to stay.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, No, it's it's a funny thing.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
And I do remember even I was playing and having
a you know, cause the first half is Joe Michael
DJ is the first part of it and during the show,
and then I'd take over after the show. We had
a few pop up performances after the show. It was
at three dollars Bill in Brooklyn, the new home for
Madonna Worship. I think next year at right the Way. Yeah,

(16:17):
it's such a beautiful place and it's got so much,
so much going on in different different areas. There's an
outdoor patio you walk in, there's kind of like a
chill area to hang out and get your drinks. And
then the main dance floor is huge, and the cool
part about it is there the lighting in the room
resembles the circle of light in the in the Celebration tour.

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So that was really fun because when you look up,
it was like when I was very young. I don't
know if anybody took picures of it, but it's a
beautiful stage, great, great like behind the scenes back room,
you know, like lots of room in the back. It
just it was so seamless this year, Like it was

(17:03):
so relaxed. I never I never felt stressed out. Like
a couple of days before the show, I always like,
oh wait, that's right, I'm supposed to host this show too.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I was. I always like forget.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But you know, I've been doing it for a long time,
so that was that was easy peasy. And I know
most of the performers, so like, I don't have to
worry about introductions.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I know them. I have something to say about all
of them because I've known them for years. But we had.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
We had a ton of performers, So that was a
big blowout, big amazing party. Uh send up for her.
I just I just hope that somehow she sees that
the party happens.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I know she's on vacation for her birthday every year,
but I hope, like somebody from her team goes, you know,
that party happened again, you know, Like I just hope
that she like skims through the videos or something, you know,
she might.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I mean, you never know, somebody might be like, hey,
did you see that?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I wonder, you know, I mean because you know, and
I often wonder, you know, for those who don't know,
I work at Stonewall and I was kind of like
her opening DJ when she did that surprise appearance on
New Year's Eve twenty nineteen to usher in the fiftieth
anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. Year and we didn't get
to meet that night, but you know, in her in

(18:23):
her Instagram stories and posts, she like referenced some of
the songs that I was playing, as she said twenty nineteen,
you better show me Love. I was playing show Me Love.
So I know she's aware of me in some way.
You know, and she I do know that the fact
that we were doing Madonna worship at Stonewall was part

(18:43):
of the pitch to get her to perform that night.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Like they used the.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Fact that that party happens at Stonewall to like entice her.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So she's definitely aware.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
And the cool thing this year is for the very
first time, we did a party on Fire Island on
the twenty fifth. It was a Sunday kind of a
tea dance and it was called the Liza Bonita Edition.
It was a lot more relaxed. Cherry Grove is a wonderful,
wonderful community and the Ice Palace has recently been acquired

(19:21):
by the people who own Red Eye where we were
doing the Madonna parties around the tour. And I think
I asked him in December, I'm like, can I do
a party at the Ice Paus this year?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
And they were like, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Just tell me when, and we figured it out and
it ended up being so wonderful. So I know so
many people on the island and like, you got to
go there for the first time. A lot of people
got to go to Fire Island for the first time.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
You It was a lot of fun, Yeah, everybody were exhausted.
We were exhausted because we went out the night before. Yeah,
we made some new friends in New Jersey. Shout out
to the new friends if they're listening.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, we have.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
We we went to uh, we went to Jersey City
Pride the night before me and the day before me
and Stevie. And it's really cool about this podcast and
just you know in general, like it's definitely bringing me
and Stevie a lot closer together and we're spending a
lot more time together, which is wonderful. We've always been
buddies and we clicked immediately. But uh, just getting the

(20:26):
podcast going and and and actually doing what we said
we were going to do. I think it it's a
testament to our friendship and to our to our relationship
that's growing. So it's it's it's it's a wonderful thing
that is happening. But we had a great time at
at UH at Jersey City Pride, we uh we saw
Chappelle Roan walking down the street a few times.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
She did not stop to take a selfie with us.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
No, I think she I don't think she likes that.
I don't think she's into that.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
So me yelling at her to take a selfie. Isn't
a good idea?

Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, that's why she ran away.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh, I'll try again next, I'll try harder next time.
I think I'm entitled to it.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
By the way, it wasn't. It wasn't Chappelle roon everyone.
It was a girl who was dressed very similar to
one of her photo shoots. We were like, I'm got
a Chappelle Road.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
I mean, all you have it looks like a Lady Gaga,
so it must be a Lady Gaga.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Right, yeah, exactly if it walks over Herdy Gaga? Who
I heard? I heard not?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I heard that Gaga got to her first. And she's
doing it for Gaga's new album. Chapelle Rown is doing
a duet with her. So Chapelle Road is uh excommunicated
from the church. No, I'm just kidding, but yeah. So
it's it's been a wonderful conclusion to all these Madonna
events that's here and I'm kind of Madonna now in

(21:56):
a way, like I just every every what happens is
as a DJ is when I start playing at like
the next party, I'm like, did I play this song
already or was it the last party? So that's the
only that's the only part of it that I like
get worried about. I'm like, did I play the song
already or did I not play the song already?

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, the beauty, I think is with Madonna, there's there's
just such a vast catalog, you know, whether it's a
remix or if you want to throw in you know,
a B side or you know, a demo, you know whatever,
live version, yes, you know you could. You can kind
of mix some of those in there, and it's still,
you know, it's not as a fatigued, you know, set list.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And we had we had the amazing Clumba White perform
at both parties. They're gonna be We're gonna try to
get them to be a guest next month because Clumba
White is uh is the word spoopy?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Is that? Is that what they call it?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Spoopy?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Spoopy.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's like she's just a she's listening, she's a slot
and whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, but she's like super into Like no, but I
heard there's a word called spoopy, which is like a
new term for like spoopy, s p o o p y.
It's like spooky. But like I don't know it's like
a I don't know if it's.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Like you know what, I eagerly await the text message
I get from her when you called me spoopy? What
the hell does spoopy mean?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
I do know Crimson Kitty used to use that word,
and Crimson Kitty used to kind of do like a
little bit of a hearth horror aspect of her work,
and uh, she used to do Talkie Tina and stuff
like that. But spoopy, I think means like it's like
a new word for like you're into like horror stuff
and all that. And Komba whited definitely into horror stuff

(23:45):
and turned it out at both parties their first time
at Fire Island, they had a great time. The funny
thing is is we both we got our rooms kind
of late because we both got rooms, uh beds in
the staff rooms at on Fire Island. We both had
upper bunks and I couldn't get into my I couldn't

(24:06):
get into my bunk that night.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I tried, and you were texting me. I don't know
if you remember this. You were texting me while you
were you know, you were you were mixing, and you
were like, please stay, you should stay. You spend the night.
I was like, what are we going to do? Cuddle
up on the top bunk. We'll break the bed. Because
I did not stay, I went home. Yeah, I was like, no,

(24:30):
I'm going to go home.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Meanwhile, here I am princess, Princess Stevie over here. Get
me on the top bunk. At the hell out of here.
I'll sleep on the floor.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
After a couple of drinks, I ain't moving.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So yeah, I tried one leg and I tried the
other leg. I got one leg up and tried to
get the other leg onto the other part of the ladder,
and luckily our friend Carlos and and Uh and Louis
were in the room right next door, and I knocked
on the door, like o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I was like, can I sleep on the floor. I
can't get into my bed.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I was hoping you were going to say. Carlos came
over and hoisted me up into the bunk.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Like like I was Madonna and he was Carlton Wilburn.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh my god, that that would have been a sight
to see. But com and Koma stayed. She she stayed,
you know, she she had a good time. She had
a really good time, because we were texting the next
day and I said, you know how to go? She's like, oh, no,
it's great. I'm exploring this and that and blah blah blah.
And then I think we talked later that night when

(25:39):
she got home and we were kind of unpacking everything,
and we both had such a good time. I think
we're gonna next year. I hope, I hope there's another
Madonna worship. Even if there's not, I kind of want
to go back to Cherry Grove.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, I mean we can even we can even do
day trips or all that, because it is a little
pricey to stay out there. But I could, you know,
we could possibly figure out like somebody we might know
or that I know, that we'll let us stay over
for you know, we'll give them, you know, some money
or whatever. Because the hotel can be a little pricey
for what it is. It's like it's not like I mean,
it's it's a great hotel and it serves its purpose.

(26:14):
But uh, I've never, honestly, I've never had to pay
for a room there. I'm usually either working or stay
with friends, so I don't I don't know how much
it actually costs, but I do know it's a little
bit expensive. So but we could always do like the
three of us, you know, split a room and whatever.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I really what I really wanted is a lot of people,
like you, came early, but I really wanted most of
the people to come earlier to experience the beach, have
lunch and all that. But a lot of people showed
up right when the party started, which is fine because
it was still the sun hadn't set yet and it
was a lie Still Beneatha edition, so it just had
a it was still light out when everybody got there,
so it was it was a cool vibe. A lot

(26:52):
of people from New York City showed up that I
wasn't expecting, and it was just it was just a
fun like kind of forced people to go on a
little vacation, you know.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Yeah, it was great. It's, like I said, perfect end
to the summer for me.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, it was really, really, really fun.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
There might be I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get
anyone too excited, but there might be something that we
do Madonna related around Halloween.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's still in the works.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Uh, it's still it's not even it's not conceived yet,
but it's it's you know, it's they went on the date.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
They just haven't made a baby yetting or.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, we're like in vitro, like we're working on in vitro.
There might be something and then possibly, I don't know,
maybe something in January.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I just feel like, uh, it's so much fun and
I can't imagine not doing it for that many months,
you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I mean it would be great. It would be a
great like almost end of the year. Excuse me why
I die on on recording.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You need your red hots stuck in your red hots, I.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Know, right some mic and ikes.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, but yeah, like I have so much fun doing it,
and you know, and just it's nice to, you know,
get all the fans together. There used to be a
lot more, you know, like monthly parties that happened at
rock Bar back in the day. I don't want to
do it monthly because it's a little too much, but
Red Eye is.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
It would get I think it kind of when monthly
parties sometimes they lose their it's the word I'm looking for.
I don't want to say appeal, but it's like, oh well,
just go next month, you.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Know, yeah, exactly, you know exactly when.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
It's when it's something like special, it's like, oh well,
I can't miss this.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
So yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping for I'm hoping for
like a new song to come out soon so that,
you know, we have something to hold us over until
a new album comes out. Did you hear about the
rumor about it's a tailor swift the weekend at Madonna
doing a song together?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean well, Madonna did express she expressed herself and
she also expressed interest. She was like, you know, please,
let's do my next album. Like I think she posted
that and somebody posted that the weekend. Yeah, somebody, somebody
posted and then the weekend was like I'd love to
and you just you just tell me when that was

(29:25):
a while back. That was maybe a year ago.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, it was when popular, when Popular came out, right.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, and this wasn't there. Donna and Taylor aren't like
not friends. They performed together a few years ago, Yeah, yeah,
they did. Taylor performed she played a guitar in ghost Town.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah back in but I heard music words I think great. Yes,
that was such a great performance.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It was it was fun.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I love ghost Town.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I was lucky enough when I when I went to
see her in Brooklyn for the Rebel Heart tour, she uh,
she did the ghost Town up that night that night.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, I love that song.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think it's it's it, you know, I you know,
Madonna songs, Madonna breakup songs or Madonna like You Hurt
Me songs have always been like you know, throughout her career.
But that song came out right when I was having
a little bit of trouble with my ex when we
were still together, So that was like one of the
first Madonna songs. I haven't had many relationships, but that

(30:28):
was one of the first Madonna songs that came out
while I was actually experiencing something similar. So that song's
always a little a little special to me for that reason.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, those ballads are all great on Rebel Heart. I
loved I loved all of them.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
One of the I think we'll do a poll for
this episode and we'll ask people what what.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
What if you if you want to, you know, tell
us what what is your favorite Madonna ballad? And you can, uh,
you can do a story and you could tag Madonna
worship and we'll we'll if you tag at Madonna Worship
on a story on Instagram and tell us what your
favorite Madonna ballad is. I think mine is like one

(31:14):
of my top three. Is definitely something to remember that
those the vocal delivery and the lyrics were so just
so heart wrenching and so painful, like She's like I
had all my bets laid out on you, like it's
just it was so sad. And I also love I
also love One More Chance. I almost performed One More

(31:37):
Chance one year for Madonna Worship, but it's not an
easy song to sing, so I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I don't want to. I don't want to make a
fool of myself.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
But the cool thing is, aside from Coma and some
of the some of the community drag queens that that's
that that live on Fire Island, that spent a lot
of time on Fire Island, we had Victoria Falls, Champagne
Bubbles and Robin rose Quartz, Me and Carlos Acosta, my
my little brother, the one the room that I knocked
on the door and stayed in. We did a little

(32:09):
heat He performed Lisa Benita with his guitar, and then
we did a little campfire version of Open Your Heart,
which was really fun and Stevie, Uh, Stevie recorded it.
I did, and it's on Stevie's YouTube channel. So if
you want to type in Stevie vox, you just type
in Chauncey Dandridge and Carlos Acosta it should pop up.

(32:33):
We rehearsed it only a little bit earlier that day,
and I think we for for a little bit of rehearsal.
I think we I think we did a good job.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
No, absolutely, I thought I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
It was fun. It was it was a nice little moment.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It was fun to see you guys perform together, because
you know, I've seen I've seen you perform, I've seen
Carlos perform, but never together.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, we've done over the years, We've done a couple
we did. We did Physical Attraction. One year on guitar,
we did Crazy for You, and I threw it. When
we did Physical Attraction, I threw in a little bit
of impressive instant and then when we did Crazy for You,
I threw in a little bit of crave. Because it
was right around the time that Rebel Heart came out.
I'm sorry, when Madame xIC came out, so's we worked.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
We work together really well.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
We both have similar sensibilities when it comes to music,
and he's like my adopted little brother and he's been
writing his own music.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's who.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
We went to U Jersey City Pride and got to
see him do his little his little uh, his little set.
So shout out to Carlos Acosta. You can follow him
at Carlos Acosta Official. And let me tell you, any
people who put official at the end of their Instagram
name drive me nuts.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I hate them for me because they're official.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like why can it should?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Should it have been like the real Carlos Acosta.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I don't know what it is about official that drives
me nuts. But it's also like I feel like the
people who put official are like a huge name that
has a bunch of people that have been like trying
to steal their name, you know, like like Madonna doesn't
have Madonna Official, but like.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
The real Madonna.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, it's just Madonna.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
But I just think it's funny because it's kind of
like like it's like your your as if you're bigger
than you already are like, that's what. That's why it
cracks me up, Like, like, get like at least ten
thousand followers before you become official, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's just me being a jerk.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Also, I like, from day one, I got all the
DJ chauncey D names for everything before anybody else did.
And there is another there was when I first started
dating there was another DJ Chauncey D. And he was
bald as well, and he was a white guy, but
he played hip hop and he from San Francisco, and
he must he must have hated me back then because
I snatched up all the DJ chauncey D Twitter face everything,

(35:08):
So he back then he must have been like, who,
who's this goddamn gay guy in New York City?

Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's so my?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
That got all the the names first. Yeah, I don't
know what the D stood for in his name, And
you know, some day I'll find out. Some day we'll
meet each other and I'll be like, oh, I'll.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Be like you maybe I'll show you.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, But yeah, I did that official and the only
other The other thing that it doesn't bother me as much,
but when people put the in front of their name,
like if you were the Stevie Vox and I was
d Chauncey Dandridge. Like it's a trend, Like it's like
a like drag queens and performers put THEE in front
of their name and I'm like, why why, I don't

(35:54):
get it.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
It's like I don't know, but we'll have to find
somebody to explain it to us.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, And it also reminds me of like back in
the AOL days when people used to put their their location,
like their AOL screen name was their location, and then
like their birth date or something, and it was always
like what if you move or if they put like
people would put their nationality in their in their screen names.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
They ever did nationality. I remember years ago back in
oh god, what was it, two thousand and five, two
thousand and six, two thousand and seven. Around that time,
I had a sidekick. Do you remember Team Obile sidekicks?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
What was a sidekick?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
It was it was like the first smartphone, basically.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
The one that you make that noise.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, And we used to have our aim our aim
screen names or AOL and Semesenger screen names for for
our sidekicks were different from our computer ones. And it
would be like x X something X so mine actually wasn't.
My regular screen name was Stevie Vox, but on my
sidekick it was xx lunas Stevie x. But that was

(37:13):
back in the day, you know, way back when.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, I never had a sidekick.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Right, Well, we've graduated now we have you know, we
have android phones. We're special.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
But one of one of the one of the things
that I forgot to do in Fire Islands, I was
supposed to play some of the one of the songs
from before or way before the first album when she
did stuff withovon what was his.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Name, von Werner Otto von Werner.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I always thought it had more syllables than that. But uh,
we started the show with a little bit of We
Are the Gods. But uh, Stevie had sent me all
the a bunch of the tracks and I totally forgot
to play them.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
We did get to play. We did play Love Makes the.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
World Around, which we gave that some love and we
got to dance to it, and we did.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I did play Jimmy Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I don't know what it was about Fire Having but
I was like, I was feeling heavy about the True
Blue album, Like I tried to make sure I hit
all the true blue deep cuts that day, but did.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
And you know, there was a friend of mine who
I know from from the West Village was actually on
Fire Island and he's like, I'll come, but will he
play Spotlight. I'm like, yeah, don't worry, Spotlight, We'll be played.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I love Spotlight. That's one of my favorite song.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
He may have been a little intoxicated, and he came
back like he was back and forth between Cherries and
the Ice Palace and ps. He comes back shit faced
and he's like, did I miss Spotlight. I'm like, no,
it's coming right now. And sure enough, you played it.
Oh my god, that's amazing, perfect, perfect timing.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
That's really that's so funny. But we're gonna play.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
We're gonna play a little cosmic climb, right, that's what
we wanted to play.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Right, yes? Please.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I remember when I first got this CD. I don't
even know when.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It was probably like in the nineties, and I honestly
I fell in love with it because it was so
experimental and so crazy. But I just I would love
to find is this auto guy still alive? And if, like,
I would love to hear the story of how they met,
because even in that if anyone hasn't seen it, definitely

(39:32):
check out Madonna and the Breakfast Club documentary. It's kind
of like a live action documentary like Guy Guido, and
it's so beautiful and there's so there's all these like
audio recordings from her and like voice messages and stuff
like that that we've never heard before. And it was
really really well done. But they didn't even they didn't
even touch on it. So I would really love to

(39:54):
find out the backstory of this Auto von Werner.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I just thought, use this German actor, you said, right,
Yeah he was.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
He was in a film. Actually, Coma White actually told
me she he's like, you got to watch this movie
called Liquid Sky, and.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Liquid Sky he was.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I think I don't think he had a huge part
in it, and I remember looking at the credits. I
was like, really, I was like, I wondered, that has
to be the same person.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Ah, But yeah he was.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
He was in it.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
It's very like post punk, like pretty new wave. You
would love this movie. It's very trippy.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Oh you've seen it, okay, If anyone hasn't seen it,
it's called Liquid Sky, the early eighties film. It's a
total acid trip. It's crazy. I gotta watch it again.
I haven't seen it a long time.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
But that's she was probably like friends with people when
that was being filmed and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
That's probably how she met.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Him because she was hanging out in the in the
East village and living in the East Village. So we're
gonna take a quick little break and play a little
cosmic climb and uh and we'll be back right after.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I okay, let's have you.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
In the camera.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Speak my talk, my you taste might give rest.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So the lead.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
And you got the time to some costly clime.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Have you got the time?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Cossic crime did some the wortrate sat.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
Time into the other letter that it at time I
could play and she was craft weted crime.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
So I'm lifting from the world to rule and.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
For twenty years sad the manger like.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
One drinkle.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Say, man, you got the time?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
The clock? Oh it's time.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
It's money, and that's we's got need to spend.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
By mysost too, because I least see to be sad.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And I leave until the mestream singing my lament to
never meet me about cream or by time to this

(44:36):
cos by cosmic the.

Speaker 7 (44:44):
Crowd by Jas and Cosmic c.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
B to System cos.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It's so that's such a weird song. It's it's so

(45:39):
like I love it, it's so I kind of wish,
you know. It kind of reminds me of like some
of the stuff she kind of did on American Life,
Like it has like like there were some moments on
American Life that were like weird and even like like
when she gets a little experimental or like plays with
her voice or does some weird things like I do

(46:02):
love Cosmic Kleim, but I.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Love a lot of those tracks are fun. But I
think that like she's sang mostly backup on those and
he just remixed her vocals up higher. Oh gosh, Chauncey.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Show, we have a special guest today that.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
I can smell her from here. Oh my god, I
smell I smell Rosebuds. Are you there, Jessica, I'm here,
Hello Jessica Rose. Oh my god, how are you?

Speaker 8 (46:34):
I'm doing great? How are you?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Lovely?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
You are the very first special guest on the Madonna
Worship Podcast.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I'm honored. Hello.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I don't I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I told you, Stevie, but I met Jessica for the
first time at Madonna worship and said hello to her
and blah blah blah, and then all of a sudden,
She's like.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Am I going to perform? And I'm like, you're Jessica.
Don't even know it was her.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
That's so fun.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Do you want to get I met Jessica and Cooma
White the same day. Oh my god, yeah, you guys
were doing a gig together. It basically was I mean
it was it was. It was at brunch. It was
at brunch at Tora Loco.

Speaker 8 (47:23):
We met you at Toros TV.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Really yeah, yeah, I feel like I've known you forever.

Speaker 9 (47:28):
Like I forget where I meet people sometimes unless it's
like a very specific circumstance, because I feel like I
just like I've been doing nightlife so long that I'm
just like, oh, of course I've met them.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
I have no idea when or where, but of course
I've known them for ever, Like.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Well, do you know why? Because we met pre covid.
Oh wow, pre it was pre Covid. When when when
we met? And I think you performed? What did you perform?
It wasn't Madonna, You didn't perform Madonna. I think it
was Nicki Minaj And yeah, and you were and you

(48:02):
were tworking on the booth next to me, and I
think I still have the video.

Speaker 8 (48:07):
Oh okay, I'm shutter to think of what I looked
like back then.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But long? How long ago was this, Stevie? How long ago?

Speaker 3 (48:16):
This was twenty nineteen?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
You've only known you've only known coma for five years?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, but you guys have been best friends forever?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Right? Yeah? I thought you guys have been friends forever. Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Yeah, it's only been five years.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
But yeah, it's Jessica Rose is stunning, this beautiful creature,
life creature.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
And we had we had just met that day. I did.
I'm sorry, I really didn't know it was you. I didn't,
I didn't. It was so funny.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I was like, who's just like, who's this diva just
hanging out with? You were hanging out with somebody when
I first said hello, I.

Speaker 8 (48:52):
Think maybe my friend CALLI.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
I love like I love when people come up to
me at gigs and I'm like, are you performing tonight?

Speaker 8 (48:58):
And I'm like, no, I just decided show up here
like this, Like what I mean?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Maybe maybe you just look like that naturally, right, I mean,
you're just so gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
No, but you know what people used to I mean
people used to do that, Like people used to just
go out in drag or go out all done up
to the nightclub.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Like that was like I'm old, that's that's the way
it was back then. So it's not surprising that people
would ask you that. I feel ba you turned it out.
You did a little go gone wild.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Thank you, And I love when you perform that. I've
seen you perform that a couple of times and I
loved it.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I always love, but I always love when you perform
I like.

Speaker 9 (49:40):
I mean that's my honestly, Like I think that it's
not the Madonna song that like introduced me to her,
but I definitely think it's one of my one of
my favorites. I just there's something about like especially the video,
and it feels very like for new Madonna music if
it still feels very like quintessentially her, and it's like subversive,

(50:03):
and she had Kazaki doing the dancing, and like heels
and like men and heels back then was such a
big like oh my gosh, like she has male dancers
and heels and like it was such a thing back then,
and I remember it so distinctly when it came out,
so like I don't know that one always has had
a special place in my heart.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I love that. So it's funny because the last episode,
Chauncey and I were talking about you know what it
would be like we Chauncey was saying, how, oh, I
wonder you know what it's like for like a new
fan to have to go back and like listen to
like the catalogs starting from like now and you're you're
a fairly new fan, right.

Speaker 9 (50:39):
Well, I guess with then I would say from like
Confessions of a Dance Floor was like, really I discovered her.
I was really really sheltered conservative child, Like I wasn't
allowed to listen to the radio at all, and I
didn't really start listening to the radio or knowing like
any secular artists really beyond like the really famous ones

(50:59):
like Britney Spears and Syncing those people like I knew
kind of in general, like I knew Gwen Stefani and
Pink and like Christina Aguilera those people, but like it
was very in passing and I wasn't really allowed to
consume a lot of it, so I wasn't like I
did I knew who Madonna was. I just never really
like knew her music until I.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Reach It's so interesting, but such a great introduction with
with Confessions, So I mean that was that's a great
time to have, you know started.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah in my opinion, oh yeah hung up as like.

Speaker 9 (51:34):
I mean, like everything about that era to me is
also very like iconic and I just love I love
the visuals of that era for.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Her, like her and yeah, I really really it really
was heard her best.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Well, like we were talking lastly, like Stevie's introduction was
the Mecca Collection, which came out in nineteen ninety and
it was her greatest hits. I'm a decade older, so
my introduction was the first album, so like, I wow,
like that That's why I'm you know, so head over
heels because I like saw every like all everything was

(52:06):
like fresh to me, Like I never had to go
back and listen to something from the past, like you know,
people like the Doors, people like uh, led Zeppelin, people
like you know, guns and Rosen and they have to
like listen back or like you know, if you like
kind of you know, you know, she's been around for
a long time too, or like Donna Summer, I wasn't
alive for Donna summer, So like I remember, I remember

(52:28):
well her eighties stuff. Yeah, I mean, but I'm saying
like a disco time I was. I was a baby.
I was born in seventy six, so I was one
or two when disco kind of fizzled. So any of
the disco stuff or any of the eighties like eighties stuff,
I kind of was a baby. And my I had
older brother said all that kind of all that kind

(52:49):
of thing. But like I couldn't imagine having to like
like like after you listen to confessions, like did you like.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Like what was it? What was the next thing that
you did you listen to something from like erotica or.

Speaker 9 (53:08):
So I feel like, I mean, it's like her music's
kind of omnipresent in the world. So it's like I'm
sure I heard her before I knew who she.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Was, or like who that I knew it was a
Madonna song.

Speaker 8 (53:19):
Like it's like share you know what I mean, Like
you here believe before you know share you know what
I mean. I feel like that's yeah, like part of life.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
I definitely like saw some some adult films we'll say
that had erotica as a backing track, which I that's
because of that.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
And then yeah, I mean like don't hate me. You're
gonna think I'm like the biggest like psychopath ever.

Speaker 9 (53:45):
But like I had just really gotten into YouTube and
everything when I was probably like maybe thirteen fourteen, I'm
not sure, Like Gleave was really like on TV, and
I I feel like I first like did my deep
dive into Madonna after they did the Madonna was ugly.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Oh that's so funny, But that was But that was
your time though, because you were you know at that age.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah you're young. Yeah, you're younger.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I mean, like even with me when I first, like,
you know, my first time hearing Vogue, I mean that
was nineteen ninety. And I was also of the demographic
for Dick Tracy. Oh you know I had Yeah, so
I had the trading cards. I still have them. I
had Dick Tracy's sleeping bag. Yeah, so I mean there

(54:34):
you go. I mean you were of the demographic for Glee.
I still haven't seen Glee. I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
Yeah, I figured it all to think purely for me,
if I go rewatch it, like, is Chappelle rowan on it?

Speaker 6 (54:48):
No?

Speaker 8 (54:48):
Girl, that's like no, no, no, no, no, she's not
on that, not that I ever remember.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
All right, you know she's these days, she's.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
She's the she's She used to sign autographs back then,
but not anymore in selfies. Yeah yeah, back then, but
yeah no, it's it's really interesting to find out. Like,
that's what I love about madonna worship too, is that
the performers are all from different generations. Mm hmmm, So

(55:21):
like your take on her is different than like if
everyone that performed that night did the same song, they
would all be different versions of the same song. So
like because it's what what people funnel from her career
and all that. So that's what's really impressive about an
artist that has such a long career. And also one

(55:41):
of the things about Madonna is like Janna Jackson has
a prolific career, but she like doesn't release an album,
Like she'll take like a couple of years off, she'll
do this, do that. Madonna's never really disappeared, like even
like like Beyonce really hasn't stopped much, Go Got hasn't
stopped much, But like Madonna, I think that's why people

(56:04):
have such a love hate relationship with her because she's
never given us time to like miss her. Like the
longest time she's ever given us was like when she
was having the baby, the first baby, like she kind
of did a vida and all that d early in
the late nineties, so that was like a little bit
of a break. That was the longest break between albums.
But like now with social media, she she's omnipresent more

(56:26):
than she was in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
You know. Yeah, I think that's people like.

Speaker 8 (56:33):
It's she's fat.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
I don't know, She's such a fascinating figure to me
because I feel like so much of our popular culture
now like does like definitively come straight from her, And
I don't know that like people really know that, Like
I knew.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
I knew that Gaga was referencing her, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Like I knew that.

Speaker 8 (56:51):
Yeah, but I think that people now like really wouldn't
understand that.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
And I think too, like like she also referenced to
Brazilian people too, so like she was like a funnel
and then people are funneling from what she put out,
so it's like, you know, it's all you know, like
Gourvie Dao said, there's nothing new under the sun, you know,
in the she put it in her Girl in her
Girly Show Tour book program. That's one of the quotes
in it that's always stuck with me. She's like Garvey

(57:20):
Dao said, there's nothing new under the sun. So she's
always been like a put something else in a blender
and put it out in a different way. But over
the years, like I've totally like I've discovered like art
artists from her. I've discovered other musicians. I've discovered films
she's referenced, and I've gone and watched those films and
like I wouldn't have known about those films if not

(57:41):
for her. And one of the things I really appreciate
about Madonna, I don't think a lot of people, the
current artists do it as much is she always told
us where she got her reference from. Like in interviews,
she always said, oh, I was inspired by this, or this,
this is where I got this from, or you know,
I was reading this book, you know, like like the
Geisha Girls section when she did the whole Geisha that

(58:04):
was because there's a book called Prowell My Concubine, So
she read that book and then she was like that's
where that Like she always told us where she got
her references from, and I don't think maybe the pop
stars of today don't really know where they're getting.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
It from because somebody else is telling them. I don't know.
So that's I learned.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I've discovered some you know, a clockwork Orange the movie
I discovered through Madonna, and that's one of my favorite
movies of all time. She referenced Cabaret with you know,
LESA Manelli and the Blonde a Vision Tour. So it's
like she always like like told us what she was
inspired by, so that you know, it's not like she
was wasn't really theft because of that, in my opinion,

(58:45):
you know, m totally.

Speaker 9 (58:47):
I mean I think I that's why I also in
like the same thing. That's like why I've always respected Goga,
because Gaga will like always say like, oh hey, like
I'm referencing David Bowie. Oh hey, like I'm referencing Withdonna.
I'm referencing you know what I mean. Like, I feel
like she was always also very upfront about like she
was paying tribute to and who she was like saying

(59:08):
like you know, like, oh, I'm wearing Alexander McQueen, like
she was always like giving. I feel like she was
always paying tribute to the artists that like helped her,
that like also dressed her and inspired her.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
She always talked about she always talks about who she's wearing. Yeah,
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I think it's important because you're you're you know, you're
you're giving all these fans like more to like discover
and more to like, like you said, deep dive into.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
So it's it's really really cool. But yeah, I was,
I was. It was your performance was amazing, and it was.
It's such a cool. It's such a cool thing to
like meet somebody the night of their performance and be like, oh, hi,
you know, you know, it's always it's always interesting because
I'm running around doing a million things at once, and
but yeah, it's so it's just so funny that I

(59:55):
didn't know that that was you.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
I think it's also like.

Speaker 9 (59:58):
So like how you have it set up is so
fascinating to me, because, like I it's rare to have
a show where it's like predominantly like I guess, singers
and and like artists of every type rather than just
drag queens or just that, you know what I mean.
I feel like the dispersity of different types of performers

(01:00:18):
at that show was so fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Just like seeing cool. That's good to hear all of it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:24):
Too, Like I really I like that kind of thing.
I like, I like a variety show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:28):
Like every time I produce anything, I try to get
people that like, don't do what I do. That do
stuff that I can't, you know what I mean? Like
even though I predominantly mostly do just drag in my shows,
like I never want to have three stunt girls all
in one cast, you know what I mean? Like, I
just find that completely not entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I totally get you. I totally what you're saying. Like
we actually were the first time we had Macon. They're
in a wheelchair and they sang the Tracy's song like
it was that was a first and like for representation,
and I think that was really that was really uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, no no, no, no, no you off now, No,
that's fine. I'm the cutter offer usually, so cut me off.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
No, I was good. I was blown away by sooner
or later blown away.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
That was really good. Yeah, it make times amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Everybody everybody around me also stopped and they were like, wow,
it sounds so good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
We're actually we're actually possibly working on something to producing
something in the future. Like it's all live like show
kind of thing. We started talking about it last week
and that's that's what I love about this too, is
because like when you do these shows and you see
what people can do or what they want to do. Also,

(01:01:54):
like some of the artists meet another artist in the
show for the first time and they go off and
do something to other.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
So I love being like a conduit for that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
And I love creating a space where people feel comfortable
to like express themselves, not to you know, obviously to
coin them anon a phrase, but also they can kind
of like they feel comfortable showing off their their talents.
They might be a little like nervous or whatever, but
everyone's so supportive of one another. And then like you
were in that, you were you were a pop up

(01:02:24):
later but like next time, you know you're involved, you
know be, I'll put you more, you know, friend and center.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
We just had so many performers that I didn't want
to I just ran out of ran out of space.
So it's like, all right, it's gonna be like a
seven hour show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
But uh, I just love being like a reason that
some people have met, Like I'm I'm like that in
general in life. Just I love connecting people that would
wouldn't have known each other in another way, but creating
that environment. Like I also do variety shows at Stonewall
and all that, and people are all like going off

(01:03:00):
on their own and doing you know, duets and doing
this and working together and this one's working in this,
you know. So I love making making that space for
for for more things to happen, you know, to do.
Do you do a lot of Do you do a
lot of shows at three dollars bill or no, I've
done a bunch.

Speaker 8 (01:03:19):
Yeah, I I've done.

Speaker 9 (01:03:22):
Actually ironically, that's like kind of what I was going
to bring up was I've worked a lot in the
past with Vegas and.

Speaker 8 (01:03:29):
Marsal Yes, yeah, like I just I love seeing them there.
It's always it's always good to see them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
I've done.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
I was like part of their their h Vinyl fantasy
show like many.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Oh, okay, I worked on it during during the pandemic.
Actually that's when I kind of got to know Vegas more.

Speaker 8 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I love I love Vegas.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
Vegas is great and like such a such a unique,
cool performer, like I've I've had him in a few
of my shows, Like I just always really I love
what he does.

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
I think it's like really unique to New York night life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
And you don't really see and what a voice too,
Like you don't expect that voice to come out of
his mouth. I know. I love him.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
It's so talented, is always is always a great time
to be around. It was just like it felt it
felt like being a family at the show. So I
was really happy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
That's so cool. That's very cool. And how can people
find you on on Instagram?

Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
Jessica, you can find me on Instagram and pretty much
everywhere else that Jessica Rose n YC.

Speaker 8 (01:04:29):
That's where you can find me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Just how it sounds Jessica Rose NYC. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
And I want to plug this. I have to plug
this for Jessica, because yeah, I was gonna say what you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:43):
So.

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
I do brunch every single Sunday at Toro Loco. It's
in the Financial Okay on Stone Street. It's me and
one of my really good friends, Freda Cox. We've been
doing it now coming up on three years, and we're
going to be having our three year anniversary in November.
I'm potentially going to have merchant other things for so
really excited for that. But that's my weekly show. I

(01:05:07):
do stuff like where I can. I'm doing Bushwig on
Saturday this weekend, so that's exciting. My first time back
to Bushwigs. It's like twenty eighteen, so really gonna really
gonna pound the pavement for that. And yeah that's I mean,
wherever book me. I don't know, like bring me to Stonewall.
I haven't been a stone Wall in a really long time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Yeah, well, we're on it for sure, and we definitely Chouncey.
We should definitely go. I've been to Tora Logo for brunch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah no, you mentioned it. You mentioned it a while
back here. We'll definitely we'll definitely check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
What are the seatings? My mother loves it, so what
are the seatings? Is there?

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
We're twelve thirty and three o'clock?

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Okay, so we could definitely hit the twelve thirty one
because I work at Stonewall at three, so that's perfect
on a Sunday, all right, Yeah, no, we'll definitely go. Yeah, no,
that sounds awesome. I love a good brunch.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
And I've Freda was supposed to be part of part
of the show, but they got booked in Asbury Park because.

Speaker 9 (01:06:07):
Uh, I forgot she had stuff out in Asbury She's
part of a Big Girl group, so they do a
bunch of different stuff. So like, yeah, they have a
weekly show on Thursdays now at Playhouse Playhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Yes, they're actually they're gonna be a part of Urban
Bear Weekend, which is coming up next weekend. They're performing
at the Street Fair the Big Girls. Yeah, I know Olympia,
Olympia just one missed Fire Island. I saw that, so yeah,
that was I was. I was a DJ, so I
got to witness that. I love Olympia.

Speaker 8 (01:06:38):
I've been friends with her for a long time. I
really can't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Yeah, there's a stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Like I never even know about itun till it's already over.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
There's a category for for over for there's the regular
miss Fire Island. Then there's a category for I think
it's over two hundred and twenty pounds or over forty
like they have like the special section, Special Division.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
That's the one that she she won. So that was
pretty cool representing the Big Girls in a big voice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
So she's been doing a lot of rib and Bear
stuff over the years, and she she's actually been performing out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
On Fire Island a lot, which I love. Yeah, have
you been to Fire Island? Have you been to Fire Islands?

Speaker 8 (01:07:18):
Ironically, I have never.

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
I've been doing Dragon now for like almost eight years,
and I have never performed or even.

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
Like been to Fire Island.

Speaker 9 (01:07:27):
Like I've always told myself, I'm like, the only time
I'll ever go is if I'm paid to be there,
like I do, and then nothing about it appeals to me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
H oh, no, Jessica, you will love it. It was
so much fun.

Speaker 8 (01:07:39):
I like the thought of it scary.

Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
I just know the stuff that goes on in Fire Island,
and like the fact that the fairy leaves like by
ten thirty, like stressed me out in such a real way, Like, No,
it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Bad, honestly, you're thinking of the Pine side. That's that's
a little more clickish and a little more intense. Decide
that we did the Madonna party on is called Cherry
Grove and it's a lot more or lesbian community, chill, fun, relaxed.
So next time, next time we go, and actually next time,
if we do Madonna worship next year, will definitely have

(01:08:10):
you as part of it.

Speaker 8 (01:08:11):
I'd love to be there. I'd love to make my
Fire Island debut with y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, we'll make it work.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I love it and we and I love you, Jessica,
you know I love you.

Speaker 8 (01:08:22):
Stevie.

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
I can't believe that I've known you, Like it feels
like I've known you for like my whole entire time
here in New York.

Speaker 8 (01:08:28):
But like that's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I love.

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
I love that we've known each.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Other for that long. Yeah, Stevie's always Stevee's had so
many great things to say about you, and then they're
all they're all pretty much true.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
So well, thank you great ass too. I mean, and
everybody at Madonna worshipst so everybody was like, oh, thank.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
You, blah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Yeah, we might be we might be working on we
might be working on something around Halloween. So if if
that happens, I'll definitely shoot you a message and see
if you're available.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Thank you so much because that's coming up, so I
got to plan it sooner than sooner than later. But yeah,
so but thank you for joining us out on such
short notice. And not even though you're you thought it
was you thought you were being filmed. You're like, am
I do I look? Am I camera ready or not?

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
Asked Stevie right away, I was like, is this on camera?
Because I don't know if I look like good enough
to be on a podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Oh no, I mean we just wanted to show us
your rosebud.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Absolutely, we do, we do, we do. It's it's basically
like a phone call blast. So I'm all like, unclean
shaven and my.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Eyes are bloodshot probably and I'm whatever, Yeah, we don't,
we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
We don't get dressed up for this show.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
Well, I appreciate you having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Thank you both.

Speaker 8 (01:09:49):
I'm excited to listen to the episode and very honored
to be the first guest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Yeah, you're the very first guest. We love you. Yeah,
we definitely love you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Thank you so much, Jessica for stop.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Yeah, thank you so much. We'll talk to you soon.
All right, talk thanks guys, have a good night, good night.
All right. That was fun. Our first guest.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Ever, Like it's still smell her from here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
She's so sweet, so humble and so sweet. She really is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
She she's a great performer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, no, it can turn it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Out, super nice, super welcoming, and her brunch is fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yeah, we definitely have to plan that. We'll definitely plan that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
The thing that the thing that I need to work
on too for next next show or next year or whatever,
is some sort of way to film things because you know,
I get bits and pieces of people's you know, phone stuff.
But I really need to work on hiring someone to
like specifically catch all the performances, you know, to create
like a good single reel, because I mean, I at

(01:10:55):
least have to get to twenty years, right, I can't
stop before twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Go for twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
You no, twenty five would be great, of course, but uh,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I just you know, you have a little wine out
a lot, and Adam, I.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Can't think of the next. Every drop in chittle adds
to the pot. Soon you got the kid as well
as the caboodle something more more Moss. I love that
song so much. That whole album was just such a fantasy.
Every time I listened to it, it totally just transports

(01:11:32):
me to like this. What was Dick Trace like the forties?
Like or thirties?

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Yeah, it was the the thirties forties. Do you do
you consider I'm Breathless an album?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Yes? And I don't understand why it's not considered one, so.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
I always consider it an album. It's a concept album.
It's not a soundtrack because there's only three songs from
the film, you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Know, I mean, it's it's it's it's a character but
all so like like every song could kind of stand alone,
you know what I mean, Like they're not like She's
not the only song that she really even says Dick
in Is is hanky panky, but like he's a man
with a gun in his hand.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
That could be a metaphor. It's not even just about
Dick Tracy back in business is you know, it's it's
it's it's like a she just did a different style
of music.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
You know, I'm vocally amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Oh so good for like it being pre avida, you know, yeah,
she sounded so good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Vocals on it were fabulous, but you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Can also hear a little bit of like like a prayer.
Her vocals in Like a Prayer were also a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Different than True Blue, and you could tell like where
her voice was going. And she obviously did some work
to learn how to sing Sondheim because that's not easy.
Shnheim is is a tough is a tough cookie. When
it comes to vocals, but Moore was amazing. But she's
always been like an old Hollywood kind of referencer and

(01:13:08):
lover of all things early Hollywood. So like these songs
were not out of her wheelhouse mentally, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
So good, though I will have to do and I'm
Breathless episode too well add that to the list.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I know, we would just have to cover every album.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
But yeah, I don't I never get I never get
why it's not considered like but you know, am I
wrong or right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
There's a version of Back in Business playing on the
Victrola in one of the scenes, right, it's not Madonna singing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
But it's not Madonna singing though, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Is Back in Business of cover.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
I don't think so, right, because it's it's pretty special.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Maybe they just they just kind of maybe maybe she
had like all the songs recorded already and they were like, oh,
let's do a version of this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
I don't know, because as a man, there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Is a Dick Tracy soundtrack that's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
You're right, there is there's an actual us T right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
That doesn't have I don't think he has any of
the Madonna songs on it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
So so that so that i'mbrestas would sell better here.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
So I mean that's I don't I have to look
into that. I know that there's there is definitely a
soundtrack with like the movie score. And you know, by
the way, great casting in that film.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Oh so good. She really was part of such a
brilliant cast. And you know, I I think it was
some of her, Like she was fantastic in it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
She was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
There was no there was no moments where like, oh
they didn't, they didn't. They should have directed her better,
Like she was really good in the whole film. She
played that gent use really well. She's vulnerable. She was
getting you know, attacked by uh, what's his name, She's
getting slapped by what's his name?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I can't think of the actor al Pacino. I can't
think of what character was, but uh, where's I going
with that? Big boy? Is that his name?

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Big Boy?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
There was such a vanity project though with with with
Warren Beattie and her though such a moment in time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
She was very sultry, very sexy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
I do remember there was a there was there was
a moment where one of the dresses kept falling off her,
like and they were going to try to use tape
on her boobs or something, and the wardrobe person was like,
I can't put glue or I can't do something because
like her breasts are like a national treasure, so I

(01:15:49):
can't do anything that could that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Could ruin them or something. It was some weird I
forget what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Yeah, but yeah that was also like don't damage the goods.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yeah, that was also like my like head over heels
moment with her, like like a prayer. I've always I
was always a fan. Like a Prayer was like totally
pushed me over the edge. But then Vogue and that
whole album was my like I was head over heels
with that album and like a Prayer and the Mecca collection,

(01:16:19):
so like that time of of of history for me
is very like Madonna heavy, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
And my mom's My mom's favorite Madonna song is Hanky Panky.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Oh there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
So yeah, that's good. Love that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
I love that that's your mom's favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Yeah. So I'll tell you a little bit about, you know,
my origins. I do remember. I don't know, I don't
know if I mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
This previously, but uh, right after I got the Sex Book,
I was I was a what year was that ninety two,
I was a junior in high school and I was,
you know, involved in all the clubs in school, and
I was in drama club rehearsal. And I remember coming
home from drama club rehearsal kind of late. We probably
went to the diner afterward, and I get home and

(01:17:12):
I'm about I had already eaten, so like I was
just sitting talking to my mom. And when I come home,
she had gotten my sex book and she was reading it,
like looking through it, and I was like, Mom, what
are you doing. She's like, she's like, no, I just
want to, you know, I'm curious about what's in it.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah. And she didn't like
gawk at it or she didn't like like shun it

(01:17:34):
or whatever. She just she was like a My mom
was a romance novel reader. My mom was like a
I think my mom had a little bit of kinkiness
in her in her in her mind, like she was
a little on the an adventure side when it came
to like literature, and she was up reading like you know,
high end stuff. But she definitely liked I think she

(01:17:55):
enjoyed the book because you know it was Vita. It
was just other characters. She was writing letters to someone,
and it had this like like taboos about it, and
like like you felt like every time I read, every
time I looked through the Sex Book, I always feel
like I'm doing something I shouldn't be doing, you know,
like against the rules or whatever. So I think my

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mom loved that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
At that time. Yeah, it was kind it was a
little little taboo.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I think my mom enjoyed the fact that it was
a little you know, a little racy and a little
like like a little like it had levels, like it
had layers, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Yeah, it wasn't just like, oh, you know, here's a
vagiana a playboy.

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't just a it was you know,
my Stephen Misella is a brilliant photographer, So my Donna
knew what she was doing and it really caught her
in Like her body was insane in that book, you
know what I mean, And she really like captured the
old school like seventies porn kind of magazine looks, and
her hair and her her makeup. It was just shoes gorgeous,

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and no one else could ever do something like that
because it's already been done.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
You know, I think Kylie did it wasn't. Kylie did
a book and it was racy photos. It wasn't, you know,
nude or artistically nude. I think she did a little
bit of a racy book after Madonna did it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Okay, interesting, but it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
I don't think it was like sexual, like sexually charged
or you know, like there was no like desires or
fantasies in it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
It was just like a photo book, I believe, Like,
can you imagine being like when it you know, we're
going all over the place this episode, but like the
sex book, like when she's hanging from the like the
I guess it was like a helicopter or something and
she's just got her arms outstretched and she's completely naked

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and she's like being flown wherever. Like can you imagine
like being on the beach or being she's over the water,
like and just seeing this naked woman and then finding
out six months later that it was Madonna.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
You know, can you mention what it was like for
her to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
It's wild or even.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
I wouldn't be but I would have I would have
already fallen into the water.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Yeah, I definitely physically, I wouldn't been able to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
And then even like like nope, sorry, you got to reset.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Then you're all wet. Yeah. But also like you know,
the hitch hiking, Like how many people drove by and
saw this naked woman hitch hiking with a purse and
didn't know that it was Madonna until like she looked
really different, like it was she was so glammed up
and it's like old school look, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
And then even like I heard that the pizzeria scene,
she walked into the pizzeria with like a full fur
coat on, and right when she's about to tek the picture,
she threw the fur coat of off and grabbed the
sice of pizza and ate it. So like everything was
done so sneakily and like like covert, and like she
was running around New York and la, I'm sure and

(01:21:06):
just like wreaking havoc. And little did people know that
it would end up in this book, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I mean when I eat pizza, it's usually naked with
a fur coat.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
So yeah, no, I mean that's I mean, how else
how else do you eat it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
I mean, just you got to watch the grease, you know,
you don't want to get any on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
The fur or on your nipples or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
No, of course not. You know, don't drop the don't
drop the pepperoni.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I mean, don't make the pepperoni hit your pepperoni nipples.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
I don't have pepperoni nipples.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:21:41):
Do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
I don't even know if I do. No, not really,
Pepperoni nipples. Get over here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
That's the episode title.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Pepperoni Nipples.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
But so.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
You know the VMAs is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Oh, that's right, it's She's definitely the queen of VMA's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Fortieth fortieth anniversary for the VMAs. Oh, she will her performance,
I should say her performance at the VMAs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Well, she did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
She did the first she did the very first one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Yeah, so then what was what was that thing where
she did for MTV was forty years old and TV.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Was forty That was a couple that was two years ago.
And that's when they closed down Times Square at like
five in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
And she got it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
She she she walked up the street, did a whole
monologue andhunt.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Look, I loved its fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
So I'm wondering if we'll get a little uh little
performance or maybe uh, I don't know something on appearance,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what we're going to get.
I mean, hopefully she'll do something.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
She's been looking gorgeous lyly and you know, and I think,
you know, there's no worry about you know, any facial
stuff being unsettled or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
You know, Hm, well, you know, m TV put up
like a they're doing like a pole because they're they're
doing like a new category and it's supposed to be
like what's like the most memorable vm A performance the show.
And it's interesting because Madonna's actually on it twice for

(01:23:39):
like a Virgin and then also for Hollywood, like a
Virgin in Hollywood with Christina and Brittany and Missy Elliott.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah, and I was wondering, like, why isn't Vogue on there?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
You know, I kind of agree because I feel I
feel like, out of all of out of all of
Madonna's performances, in my personal opinion, I think Vogue was
more you know, memorable or iconic. I think for most

(01:24:09):
everybody else in the world, they'd probably say Hollywood, like
a Virgin in Hollywood, because you know, obviously the kiss
between her and Brittany and Christina got you know, half
a lip brush and you know she was a little
she she was she was shafted on that they had
to justin Yeah, on the list, you know that on

(01:24:30):
this list that I you know see online Beyonce Love
on top.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
That's what she revealed she was pregnant, right, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
I think so, I think so. I'll be honest, I
haven't really watched the vm as in years. O Emin
Amazon there for the real Slim Shady, Katy Perry, Roar Gaga,
for Papa Razzi, Taylor Swift, you belong to me, I think,
I remember, I know I've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
I'm sorry, what else is on the list? Is that's it?
That's it? Then?

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Really, I guess they view that as the most memorable
and they want, you know, the audience to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
You know, because there was you know, when Prince came
out with his ass sticking out, that was pretty memorable.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Absolutely absolutely, so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Like why isn't Bye Bye Baby on there?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Well, so I went back and I was thinking, I'm like, Okay,
what did she perform at the VMAs? You know, over
the years, obviously like a virgin they did the satellite
you know, telecast for causing a commotion because she was tour.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Then she did express herself.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Express Yourself, which I think was I love that performance.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Oh god, it was so raw and so freaking hip
and so sexy and just the first time she vogues. Yeah,
it was so It was such an empowering moment. She
was so like, she's so in charge.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
And then she had Vogue in nineteen ninety, you know,
with the Blonde Mission.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Tour dancer, Yes, and then Bye Bye Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Bye Bye Baby, and then the Ray of Light.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, Light was pretty iconic, except you know, I do
remember an interview she said, you know, I was I
either had the I either had the option to dance
like crazy and lip sync or sing and stand still.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
And she's like, I chose to do both.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
And then after that for America, for America, the American
VM as you know, it was Holly Hollywood and like
a virgin again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Wow, but she did she did.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Hung up for the European V I think she did music,
Am I right? She did music and Power of Goodbye, Power.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Goodbye was her.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
They did it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Yeah, I don't know, I didn't know she did that
any eupemius. She really hasn't. I mean, she did the
when did she do the when all the drag queens
were dressed as Madonna? Was that two thousand and nine?

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
No, that that was earlier, ninety eight, ninety maybe even
earlier than that. But I think that was just to
present an award. She didn't perform. Yeah, that was just
yeah he parents, Yeah, but I mean that that was
great too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
And then she came out when when Michael, right after
Michael Jackson died, she did that speech.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Yep, she did that beautiful speech after Michael died.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
She kept talking about herself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
But you know, but I don't think that was just like, oh,
I'm going to sit here and talk about myself. I
think she was just you know, showing the similarities and
related Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I get it's just funny people harp on her. She's like,
all she did was talk about herself.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
She got that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
She got flack too when Aretha died and they were like, hey,
can you do a speech and she's like yeah, sure,
and they're like, okay, make it really long.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
But I don't know, I thought they were good speeches.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Yeah, I totally thought so. And then but she hasn't
performed in a while, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
That the VMA is now. Yeah, so maybe maybe we'll
get a little, just a little something, you know, mm hmm.
Maybe maybe her and Taylor Swift will come out and
do like a virgin and Madonna will make out with her.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
No things, no bite your tongue.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Oh gosh. But yeah, so it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
What do you what?

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
What would you say is the most iconic or the
most memorable of her Madonna out of Madonna?

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, definitely Vogue.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
Okay, same, I would say the same. It's the most
the one that sticks out the most in mind.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Oh my god. It was like it was from the
every second of it was miraculous. Like it was just
like I could watch it a thousand times in a
row and still not be satisfied. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
It was stupendous. It was so it was such an
interesting take on you know, had she the fagatory was
in full effect. She was just like, these are gay people,
welcome to reality. These are my queens, you know what
I mean. Like and then and I'm not even gonna
bother singing. I'm just this is a drag performance, you

(01:29:16):
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Yeah, she get it. Was you know, it was, it was,
it was, it was. There was not a second that
was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
You know, even the part where the I don't know
if the dancer like steps on her skirt and she
gives them like a dirty look, that was even like
perfectly imperfect, Like it was just Oh, I could watch
that one thousand and it ended.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
Up on the that I never knew that was an accident.
I thought that was just part. I honestly thought that
was part of the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Like the queen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Yeah yeah, I thought that was maybe a wow. I know,
I've listened to I've listened to interviews where they've talked
about it, you know, the dancers have talked about it,
and it's like, you know, oh yeah, you know the
fan flips, you know the clacking of the fans that
was pre recorded sound you know, very you know, clackworthy.

(01:30:12):
I guess yea, and I guess they rehearsed it and
rehearsed it, rehearsed it, and every somebody always dropped a
fan when they were flipping the fans, and then it
just was flawless when they when they went out and did.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
It, oh wow, yeah, I mean Donna, Donna probably dropped
a fan that that Donna Delrie Donna, she probably did
every time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Not Nikki though Niki Nikki is probably even though Nicky
is a jerk, I'm sure she never dropped a fan.
I'm mad. I'm mad at Nikki. I'm really mad at Nikki. Yeah,
because there's that interview that came out like right around
celebration tour. She was just really like.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Unnecessary roughness, like you know, let me, you know, talk
about it another in ten years, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
I agree. I mean, I think any wants and he
wants to come to your show when you're when you're
milking Madonna's show, and well, they're never they ever hear this.
They're never going to perform at Madonna worship, that's for sure.
Edit this part out, Yeah, edit this part out. No.
I worshiped the two of them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
I love the both of them, But like, like the
reason they're still doing anything is not because on their
own merit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
They're like they're still riding the coattails. So like they
should be praising her. You know, there's a way, there's
a way to be honest about what happened without she
was she was a little, she was a little It
was a little hurtful to listen to because I'm like,
this woman, you know, had you by her side for
you know, ten years or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
That's another thing that's really wild that I didn't crossed
my mind, maybe like during one of our first episodes,
the Madonna Nicky experience was really only from eighty seven
to like two thousand and one. Yeah, it's only like

(01:32:10):
fourteen years. Yeah, and Madonna's been doing this for forty years.
So like, Donna Nicky have been a partner her show
a lot less than a lot less than not, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
Well, you know it's it's I think also because you know,
we see them in Truth or Dare. You know, we
kind of get to know them a lot through that,
so we you know, and then you know Girly Show.
They were in the Girly Show, they were in Drowned World.
You know Donna obviously she stayed up until Live Earth,

(01:32:47):
Live Earth. Yeah, that was the last time that she
was back up for her. But yeah, I mean, I
guess because we got to know them, that's why so
many fans like cling to them, and they're wonderful. They
are wonderful together.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Yeah, no, they added something so special to the performance.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I mean, I enjoy you know, the banter and and
everything on, you know, blonde ambition and you know even
in the Girly Show a bit you get a little
bit of that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah. No, they're they're they were perfect teammate.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
There was a perfect team to three of them, There's
no doubt about it. But it's wild that, like most
you know, it all kind of that trio ended after
Drowned World. So because after that, like after that, Nikki,
I mean not Nikki Donna stayed put in the back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
She did. She didn't come out and perform with Madonna.
Madonna would have other background dancers or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
But I mean, well, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
They were at the tour.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I am really I am still really shocked that she
didn't bring them up at some point for the tour.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
So she must kind of be her by them or something.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Yeah, but you know when when when Carlton and Kevin
and who else was who else was? It was it Lewis.
They were in the audience for Celebration tour, like Madonna
saw them and she like you know, kind of acknowledged them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Well, Lewis is one of the guest Judges on Jose Jose.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
I'm sorry, Yeah, Jose was Jose was uh in New
York with one was Opening night in New York when
we no opening was it?

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
I don't remember?

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
It was one of them, one of the New York ones.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Barkley, the first one was her was the boxer? Yes, okay,
and then maybe an MHG.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Maybe don't they all meshed together?

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
I was, I was, I was called Jose Lewis and
I was called Lewis Jose. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Yeah, I mean, well they kind of they go hand
in hand. But yeah, you know that that would have
been great if they came up, all three of them,
but you know, it's all right. Maybe maybe one day,
one day, we'll get that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Or even like if they if they came up and
I really wanted them to come up and do rain,
that would have been really wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
That would have been but that would have required, like,
you know, hours of rehearsal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
And I just wonder when the last time they actually
like had a conversation, because you know, I always remember
that scene from Truth to Dare where they're like, you know,
come on, Nikki, had you don't you don't want to
be rich and famous, you know, like she's like, I
don't know if I want it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
I don't know if I want it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Well there, I mean, don and Nikki have rehearsed Rain
numerous times.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
So yeah, that's another reason why I thought they released
it as a single. So that's why it was like
they already know Rain, maybe they'll maybe it. Sh'll bring
them up and they'll at least do like one of
the lines together, you know, like then then by you know,
like then they could walk back down.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
But yeah, that would require like rehearsal and all that
kind of stuff. But Donna's not going to do it,
you know, without it being at least forgot the whole
Kayli Minogue thing. They finally got to like perform together.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
That made me happy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
That made me really that was really wonderful. That was
really it was just it just was like a like
it was like heya, his toy was really you know,
it was really wonderful. From from Santa Claus to Kylie
to you know, we got to travel, we got to
see her in different places. I got to meet a
lot of fans that I hadn't met yet. Like it

(01:36:24):
really was the epitome of a of a like a community.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
You know, I really loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
It's been a Madonna filled year.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
It really has been over yet. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
That's why I just like, give us a single, please.
I just want something new to play when I DJ.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
You know, I think we'll get a little, just a
little something.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
I mean, I'm hoping that she just realizes that she
doesn't have to put out a whole album. You know,
she's been you know, thrown out a little like you
know the popular song that that's that's done really well
for her on the charts. Yeah, it's a fun song.
It's a really great song. I have a bunch of
remixes of it. But you know, she did the the read,
you know, she did the remix of the Dua Lipa

(01:37:08):
song Levitating, and she also did what was the thing
that everybody I did, those frozen remixes. And then there's
a new remix. There's a new remix you have Material Girl,
which everybody hated. There's a new remix, like a Brazilian
remix of like a Prayer that everyone's like really excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
And it feels like I'm listening to two different songs
at once. I haven't heard it have you got a
chance to listen to it? Maybe we'll close the show
with that so everybody could hear it. I guess I
have to listen to a few more times.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
But uh, it's a I forget the name of the
the name of the DJ, but I'll mention it in
the once I play it, I'll mention it in the.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
In the liner notes of the show notes. Yeah, yeah,
it seems like it seems like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
You know, Warner Brothers is really focused on releasing like
the digital singles.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Yeah, we've been getting a lot of that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
I mean causing a commotion.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
We just got a commotion. I think something else sneaked
out that nobody snuck out that nobody realized. Was it
a ballad or no?

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Cherish came out, Cherish is out yep, And then Cousin
a Commotion came out. And then Susan Thomas released her
Sacred Heart you know album that's that's you know that
was posted on Madonna's official website. Who you didn't see that?
The Susan well when they before they announced the like
a Prayer reissue, the silver Edition reissuey it was listed

(01:38:43):
as you know on Amazon is Susan Thomas. You know
Sacred Heart, which you know if if you don't, if
you don't know, Susan Thomas is the character and desperately
seeking Susan. Oh yeah, it's clever. It's really clever. So
reck store Day. This year, Susan Thomas is releasing her
hit album Naptime nap Time. Yes, I'm serious, I'm not kidding.

(01:39:09):
It's it's check the record store day list and I'm
sure one of these days will we'll get another Susan
Thomas record.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Oh wow, I'd never made that. I never even heard
of that. That's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Yeah. I was on the phone with nap Time, Yeah,
Naptime We'll go. I wonder what that is. I was
on the phone with my my friend Catherine and Florida,
who you've met, Yeah, and we were just joking and
she's like, yeah, maybe Susan Thomas will will release you know,
a twelve inch of you know, her hit single, you
know off the Hook, you know instead of hung up

(01:39:47):
off the Hook?

Speaker 7 (01:39:48):
Get it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
I can't believe Bedtime Story is thirty years old this year.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
It's yeah. Wow, I wonder if it's going to be
I think it's just going to be a colored, a
colored record, you know, just colored vinyl, maybe pink, because
I think what was it Germany or Mexico. Somebody got
pink vinyl in ninety four.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
So I remember shout out to my friend Pedro Miranda.
He was my Madonna buddy before I had any really
other Madonna buddies. And we both He got his belly
button pierced and I got my nose pierced. During the
Bedtime Stories album era. We both went to the bed
we both went to the pajama party together in Rebster Hall, and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
We both wore.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
We both had green eyes already. We both got green
context It was the stupidest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
I mean, I've hagelized.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
My eyes are sorting more brown depending on what I'm wearing.
But we both got green colored contexts, even though we
both kind of had green eyes already.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
It was so weird. So everything that we saw during
that era was that they had a minute shade of green. Yeah,
because for a while they didn't they you know, they
didn't make contexts that have prescription colored you could you

(01:41:06):
could get him if you didn't have contacts, like we
didn't need a prescription.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
But I think around the nineties is when they started
to like make prescription colored context so funny, that is funny.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
But yeah, maybe maybe Susan Thomas will release Yeah, I
don't know, sour Sucker. You know hard candy where there's originals, Yeah,
where there's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
Susan Thomas. Yeah, Auto von Werther, Auto.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
Von Werner and Susan Thomas their greatest hits.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
But in between this episode and the next episode, me
and Stevie are definitely going to go see the Deadpool movie,
the Wolverine and Deadpool, and we're gonna we'll talk about
the religious experience of of of like prayer.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Of sacred Heart, right, sacred.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
Heart, sacred Heart, Yes, which we'll be here. That's I
ordered mine from Amazon. I didn't order from the official website.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
You're you're much more of a collector than I am.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
I think I think I want to order it though,
because like a pair was really integral in my life,
So I think I'll grab it. But yeah, we're gonna
watch the dead Pool and Wolverine movies so we could
talk about how amazing uh that moment will be and
uh all that, and maybe maybe what.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
We'll do is uh next episode will.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
Give her a little review.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
We'll do a little movie review and we'll be maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Like, maybe we could dress up like Deadpool while we record.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Yeah, that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
I'll just like, well, you dress like Deadpool and we
can talk about like a prayer in the movie, and
then we could talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
I don't know, we'll figure out what.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
But actually next month will be we're gonna try to
have Komba White on as a guest and it'll be
our our like spooky supernatural Halloween.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Addition, he means spoopy spoopy, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
I gotta, I gotta, I gotta google that because I
know it means something. But we're gonna try to have
come Away, who was also one of the performers on
both Fire Island and at a Three Dollar Bill and
definitely part of the Madonna Worship family. But I think
we've been we've been talking for quite some time, so
I think we gotta h we gotta wrap it up, like, hey,

(01:43:25):
you don't be silly, put a rubber on your willie.

Speaker 3 (01:43:27):
That's right, Well, Chauncey, listen, thank you so much for
for the for the Susan Thomas Worship Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Susan, Susan Thomas Idolization podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Susan Thomas Idolization, Yeah, thank.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
You, but we're gonna we're gonna end the episode with
the new I wish I knew his name. I can't
think of his name right now. I have to grab it,
the new Brazilian remix of Like a Prayer.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
So we did you know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
It's kind of the newest release from her, and we
kind of did a release from way before she was
even her first album. So this is a very career
spanning musical episode. So but yeah, we had Jessica Rose
on as a guest. You can follow Jessica Rose at
Jessica Rose NYC. It sounds just like it's spelled. Follow
Stevie at Stevie vox s T E v I E

(01:44:23):
b o X. We're also you can follow me at
dj chaun c D or follow our Madonna worship page
on Instagram. And we're now on We're now on Apple Music,
Apple Podcasts. We're on tons of other podcasts from Spotify
to I think pod Bean, pod something. But yeah, you

(01:44:43):
can speaker run Screaker as well. Squeakers helps us get
on all the other ones. It's kind of like the
cond of the funnel. But yeah, so you can find us,
subscribe follow. We're gonna pop a little poll on Spotify
about what your favorite Madonna ballad is and uh and if.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
You and if you're not on Spotify, you know, post
post a post a story on your Insta.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Yeah, and tag Madonna worship and tag Stevie Vox and
me and let us know what your favorite Madonna ballad is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
The next episode, well, we'll reveal the winners. And here's
the DJ. Something Brazilian like a prayer DJ Brazilian, DJ Brazil.
I don't know something like that. All right, good night Stevie.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Good night, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Let miss story.

Speaker 7 (01:46:00):
All my name and delight when you combinding to Brad
g Man, be I don't change, you give me I

(01:46:20):
can change your power us, my girl, bred you know
I'm changing. It's my angel study.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
I have no choice. Hiding feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
My oh.

Speaker 7 (01:46:46):
Not ding oscar man my eyes ever help me when
you call my name's kind of go by. I mean
I'm gonna take you that I've killed out.

Speaker 8 (01:47:04):
I can tack it about.

Speaker 7 (01:47:06):
You're gonna stuck up, but you know I chant you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
And so.

Speaker 7 (01:47:22):
Nosy's trying to no no t me you won't here
with me. I can't trying to not tis when you come.

Speaker 6 (01:47:41):
It's not going to do.

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
I'm going to tank you that you're looking out. I
can tell you about You're gonna stuck up, you know,
playing you that when you trot anything but your doll.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Very nice and l nine

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