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Speaker 1 (00:35):
What's going on? And I feel like it's been forever.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It really kind of maybe I mean since forever, since
we've been on here, but not so forever since we
were together.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
This weekend, Yes, we went to see You Want to
See the Terrifire Part three?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We did, and it was it was It was really good.
It was really really good. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I mean I love it too. But one of the
things that Stevie pointed out everyone is that he thought
that instead of Wolverine and that other guy, that Spider Man,
that like a prayer should have been used it for.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
There's so many great scenes that, like like the Battle
Royale version of like a.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Prayer could have been used. Yeah, I mean, you know
Santa Baby, Yeah, Baby. I think I think Madonna missed
an opportunity. I think they probably they probably reached out
to her and she didn't know what Terrifier was, so.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She probably or maybe she does know what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And she didn't want to, like she want to be
associated with it. Maybe. Oh gosh, but that would have
been that would be funny.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Please somebody edit Santa Baby into Terrifier three.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Oh my god, we have to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I want a fan at it. Somebody make a
fan at.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
It, right, send us the link. Yeah, but a lot
has been going on in them in the Madonna world,
a lot of like come and like interesting stuff, like
like what she was in the studio with Stuart, Right,
she was in the Steward with Stuart.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
That's exciting. I greatly enjoy Stuart Price. Yes, me too,
I mean everything. I think that everything he touches turns
to gold.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
So yeah, a lot of his work, his early work
was really popular when I first started DJing almost twenty
two years ago, so a lot of his One of
his monikers was the Thin White Duke, so a lot
of his remixes were in my playlists back then. And
I think this weekend when I do jay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna bust out some Thin White Duke remixes. But
(02:39):
a lot of fans are speculating whether they're just doing
an edit for the for the the film version of
the of the Concert, or whether we have new music
coming because she was also wasn't she in the in
the studio with now Rogers? Mostly I didn't see that
not Nile Rodgers or was it Nile Rogers? Was it
(02:59):
someone else? Oh? I'm I'm thinking of Max Max Martin, right, Max.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Mart Well, he's he's the one that's doing all like
the remasters, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think Max Max Martin is the one that's doing
the remasters, like all the all the like the new singles.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And and what. Okay, like didn't he do?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He did finally enough love. He like was in charge
of remastering all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Was Mike Dean? Is that Mike? Yeah? No, Max Martin
is the one who did like the early Brittany and
Max Street Boys stuff, I.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Believe, Okay, yeah, wrong, Max, Wrong, wrong, Matt.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I think Mike Dean was like her. Oh no, I'm
I'm all confused with Madonna mania right now? Who was
her like gardener and then became like her like editor
for her films or something. Wasn't there like a if
anybody knows, let us know someone was like part of
her staff and then ended up like she found out
(04:04):
that they were interested in like video editing, and then
they ended up like editing some of her music videos
or something. Yeah, she has She has a very interesting
way of like collecting employees.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I know her pediatrist was actually you know, played percussion
on the last album.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
What no, I'm kidding, Okay, like wow, the family Affair,
it really is, but we just had this is also
this is the anniversary of the Hung Up single, right
mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's recently.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was today, Jay, I believe And you know what?
Also today is thirty one years ago. Thirty one years ago.
Tonight I saw the Girly Show. It was my first
time seeing Madonna live. Oh god, nineteen ninety three. I'm old.
But the cool thing was I was saying teen years old.
(05:02):
It was October seventeenth, and I sat in seat number seventeen,
so it was a pretty awesome night for me. Ooh,
everything was seventeen? Did you take photos? An interesting thing
is I mean the process of moving, moving to the
Upper east Side, and I've been like consolidating and purging
and getting stuff ready, and I did come across my
(05:25):
friend Marge had snuck in her camera to the concert
and put her telephoto lens in her crotch. And this
is long before she came out as a lesbian. But
she must have looked like she was like, as we
used to call him back then, like bull Dyke, like
a with a fake with a fake thing down there
because we still don't know how she got through security,
(05:46):
but she took two awesome photos that she had given me.
I don't know where the one from justicefre My Love
performance went to. But I have a picture of Madonna
when she first rose from the stage as Dita and
she's got her arms up with the with the wedding
the writing crop and it's a beautiful picture. And it's
(06:07):
in an old frame, like an old plastic like box
frame when they were popular back in the nineties. And
I have it, and I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
like reframe it just to like give it a new life.
But it's such a cool picture because it's like, I mean,
that whole that whole opening number was just you know,
super photogenic. Every everything she did was such an incredible
(06:28):
athletic pose. You know. It was such as an interesting
way to open up a concert as well, and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Very easily, like you're able to photograph it. Yeah, she's
not moving, like, she's not running around. Yeah, so she's
she's pretty stationary aside from like the rotating platform.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
She's photo ready. She is photo ready. It was hard
to get it would be hard to get a bad
shot of that opening number, And I always found that
opening number very interesting because it's like it wasn't super energetic,
but it had this like ten and it had this
like what's what's next, Like what's what's what is she doing?
(07:05):
You know, like what what what's the plan for this show?
You know, it's the only other show we had to
go by really was bonn Ambition. That was such a
bombastic opening number. So it's interesting how and do you
know that there's like a there's a weird theory that
whenever Madonna goes on tour after a after a commercial failure,
(07:32):
she rises from the stage, and a commercial success she
descends onto the stage. Really have you ever heard that?
It's a very interesting tangents gone. So for blond Ambition,
you know, she was in the height of her career,
like super huge, she comes down the stairs, right, Yeah,
(07:53):
Erotica had a lot of negativity attached to it, and
she rose from the stage. And then the following concert
was ground World, which she she also well she just
kind of appeared right in the end.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
It wasn't she It was like she circled around like didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Like a spaceship landed. That's what it was supposed to right,
It wasn't wasn't drown world like she like landed and
she came down and she just kind of appeared in
the smoke and sang uh yeah, substitute for Love. And
then the next concert was after that. It was a reinvention,
and that was right after American Life, which was a
commercial failure. She rose and that's two thousand and four,
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and then Confessions she descended because Confessions was a success.
And then after Confessions, Hard Candy she kind of Hard
Candy was kind of in the middle. She just it
was the worst opening entrance in my opinion, Sticky and Sweet.
I'm like, I'm like, you know, can you can you
start over and rethink that, like I always thought, you
know a lot of Sticky and Sweet is my least
(09:04):
favorite concert for a variety of reasons. But a lot
of the reasons that I that I disliked it was
I felt like it was like a poor man's Confessions
tour in a way kind of because there were a
lot of repeat things that really worked on the Confessions tour,
like her going crazy during what It Will Be, she
(09:25):
kind of repeated that for She's Not Me. There are
a couple other moments where it was like it was
it was it was like a it was very pop
art that whole that whole concert. It was very like
it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Only parts of it that I really enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, no, I agree with that, but there were there
were just moments that were kind of like corny in
a way, like even the Keith Herring jump rope section,
like like, really you're gonna jump rope during I don't
know it just it was kind of a Also she
was going through the divorced and she's kind of it
was kind of midlife crisis concert. But then after that,
(10:01):
we have it was after sticking Sweet that she doesn't eat,
So then we have m DNA, which was a success,
and she descended after m d and a we have
rebel Heart. Rebel Heart was pretty much a success, even
though the leaks and all that she descended and then uh,
(10:22):
madame X. Madame X, she kind of she just like
appeared behind the screen. That was a totally different type
of show. Didn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
About did I ever tell you about the Like when
I first saw madame X, I didn't realize that she
was George Washington.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Is she George Washington or she Hamilton?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh, is she Hamilton the Yankee Doodle whatever. I While
I was, I thought it was a pirate so funny,
and I'm like, oh, disco pirates, I'm into it. It
wasn't until weeks later that I was like, wait a second,
she's Yankee.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Doodle, Yankee doodle, yank yank doodle.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Chicky that I think, you know why, because we had
nothing to go like revert back to, like, oh, let's reference, Like,
let me go back and see what people posted about it,
because there was a photos, there was no nothing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Ah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I for the longest, you know, for a couple of
weeks there, I thought it was disco pirate.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well if you realize though, in the performance of God
Control at the end, when she tosses her hat down,
one of her black dancers picks it up so that
that that was like kind of like.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
That.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I thought that was a really intricate moment in that
performance where she gets rid of her power and hands
it over to a personal color. Yeah, hmm, yeah, that
was such. But I don't know if that I don't
even know if I've ever heard that theory. But I
think somebody mentioned about the whole rising and descending.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I've never heard that year before, but it's definitely it's
kind of interesting. I've never I don't know so. Then
and then Celebration Tour, she kind of circle, she circles
around again she appears.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, so she was kind of like she's kind of
like the future Madonna, like telling you like I'm going
to take you on like a time.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Travel Madonna of the Cosmos.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And there's also that have you ever seen that I wish?
I wish before we do these episodes, I actually wrote
down what I what, what what I want to reference.
But there's a there's a religious painting that has like
the circle that's kind of tilted and it that it's
it's it's one of my it's one of my cover
(12:44):
photos on Facebook. But that's supposedly what the circle is
that's above her is like it's something to do with I.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Think we talked about this some one of the last like.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Lead, Yes we did, so you're right, you're right, we did.
We did.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I don't remember what it's called though.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, we could look it up again and well.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To pause and go back and listen to what we said.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But I hope that all of you out there are
listening to our older episodes. We really want to we
want to create a movement with this because it's like
it's really interesting to just you know, Steve and I
just kind of met recently, but we our love for
Madonna is so deep and and layered, and our you know,
our opinions and our time of knowing Madonna and being
(13:30):
introduced to Madonna are slightly different. So it's a really
we we love our conversations, we love the insight that
we give each other. So it's it's you know, it's
really cool that we have people that are listening, and
we want to thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, thank you, because I saw the listener count went up.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Quite a bit, so yes, it did.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Everybody who's listening, awesome, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, we appreciate it because, you know, it's just it's
just nice. We don't really have we never really sat
like you know, we we do a little bit of
p and you know, make sure we talk about this
and all that, but it's really just the conversation between
two kind of new friends that you know, our friendship
has really blossomed a lot in the past year, especially
because of this, this podcast, and uh so it's just
(14:14):
nice to have this kind of record of our of
our of our billy dancing through the Madonna universe. You know,
it's our whole movie. Yeah, basically this Moe and a
lot has been going on in the Madonna world. A
lot of good things, but also, you know, some pretty
(14:34):
sad things. She lost her her stepmom a few weeks ago,
and then of course the biggest thing that could probably
happen to her, her brother Christopher passed away recently. And
that was just such a it was such a mystery,
like everyone was like, did he die? Did he not die?
It was such a weird social media moment for me
(14:57):
because I'm I'm connected to a bunch of people that
I've known for years and all that, and like some
people knew, some people didn't, some people didn't believe it.
It's just weird, like to the idea of being someone
that's so important to a fan base, and it's almost
like an infighting going on about about whether he actually
passed away or not. And it was kind of ugly, mean,
(15:21):
do you mean still now? Just a few days like
went around when it happened.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like people were like.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Like fan group pages were like arguing with one another,
and people were yelling at it like it's just weird,
I guess because people just didn't want it to be true,
you know, I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I get it, like I mean I think when we
were talking, we're like is it true? I mean like
like let's wait and see, you know, because like you
don't want to believe anything, like oh, you hear so
so and so passed away.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It's like really oh, And.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I think it's you know, while it's really sad that
Joan passed away, you know, extremely sad for that family,
you know, especially Sylvio, you know, losing two spouses you know,
in a lifetime that that's terrible, it's heartbreaking. But I
think for the fans, like losing Christopher, you know, because
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we you know, Christopher is a big part of Madonna's life,
you know, whether they were you know, on the outs
or you know, still close as ever, you know he was.
He's a part of that, you know, that that that
lineage and that legacy.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Especially during her her like her rise, you know, like
her rise to fame, like he was by her side
for so long and those early videos of him dancing
behind her with Erica Belle and you know, like I.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
As she she made a post she made like a
remembrance post, and I was like, oh, that's really sweet,
and you know, it was nice nice to see that,
you know, she she made a post. Yeah, I don't
follow her. I know some people do. I you know,
I know who she is.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I just never Eric. Yeah, I haven't gotten a chance
to read that yet, but I think you met Madonna
and like, of course Madonna. I was really shocked when
Madonna's shocked with Madonna about.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Her brother and I don't follow her.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I know that's what that's what maybe go wait, I
don't think he's talking about Madonna. Well that's the really
interesting thing. Like I have two brothers. We're not as
close as we were when we were kids. But like
he came to New York because she came to New York,
and like was at her side, like never really never
really like took the spotlight. He was always like, I'll
(17:41):
let her be the the workhorse. I'll just kind of
guide her and lead her and use my like he
used his his like queer cunningness and like help shape
her shows to kind of have that little edge and
have that little nuance that a lot of other artists
(18:02):
didn't really have, you know, Yeah, he definitely added to
her queer sensibility in my opinion, did you.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Ever read Did you ever read his book?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
I never did. Actually I kind of was. I kind
of was not a little mad that he wrote it,
you know, and I understand. I think her marriage to
Guy Ritchie really ruined their relationship obviously, but like it
was kind of a it was a stick, a knife
and twisted moment from him, and I didn't really like that.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't cool. I mean I read
the book.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You read the audiobook like you read Barberna.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, No, I didn't do the audio at the time.
I think I just had the book and I kind
of wouldn't mind going back and listening to him read
it though, just just because.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Is there an audiobook version of it? There is?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think it's on Spotify because somebody somebody posted a
clip from the audio book on Instagram. It was the
like one of the opening like lines. It was, you know,
I was born my mother's son, but I'm going to
die my sister's brother.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And I was like, oh, wow, that's where that line
is from it. Now. Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So maybe maybe I will revisit it and listen to
the audio book.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, no, now I think I might too, just just
just forget, you know, if there's any inside scoop or whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
There's a couple of really interesting things in there. Not
you know, I'm not talking about, you know, anything negative
that he has said. I just mean, like, you know,
just little interesting tidbits that he threw in there that like, oh, Madonna,
you know, always dyed her Easter eggs, you know, Robin's
egg blue.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I was like, really, yeah, yeah, I remember that was
in there.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't like keep him.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I read it when it came out, so that was
what two thousand and eight, So I don't recall everything,
but I remember that was something that that kind of
stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
What an interesting choice.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
But he it definitely was a you know, like you said,
you know, a knife and knife and the knife in
the heart and twist and yeah, but it seemed that
they kind of you know, made amends, you know a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, I think, And I heard that she was paying
a lot of his bills and stuff, that a lot
of his doctor bills and all that kind of stuff.
I mean, but I remember in the nineties we used
to see him at a wonder bar in the East
Village which is now a club coming. We used to
see him from across the room, like, oh my god,
Christopher's here again. You know, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
And he I believe he had a design show, like a.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Like something like that, Yeah, Room.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Takeover the Sign show briefly maybe it was on like
HGTV or something.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, yeah, he definitely did have a show. That's why
I was shocked when he had when he had passed away,
and like it wasn't like news right away, so it's like,
you know, he's not he's not just Madonna's brother, like
he had his own career. So I was very I
was like, god, we haven't heard, like no news sources
picked it up yet. This is really weird. And it
ended up, you know, then it got out there sad.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's very very very sad, you know, for that whole
family just going through all of that.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You know, for another another cancer victim, Joan died of cancer.
He died of cancer, Like cancer in that family is
just such a scourge.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Maybe it's Michigan, it could be.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I mean, I you know, cancer, cancer has been a
you know, a monster for a lot of people I know,
But yeah, I wonder if like our paranoia must be
so strong about it, especially losing her mother that I remember,
I think during Madame Xis and she's getting those like
oxygen cleansing treatments or something where they they they kind
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of like cleanse your entire blood stream, right, like they
oxygenize you. They put in some sort of process where
they kind of clean your blood. And uh, it's usually
for not not just for cancer patients, but like obviously
rich people and people in the know do it because
(22:30):
it kind of revitalizes you and and you know, anti
aging sort of situation.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Maybe we should try them.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, don't they have like
oxygen bars and stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I always sawt oxygen bars was just like you go
and you get like scented oxygen. Like you go and
it's like oxygen and they give you scented oxygen.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
No, it's like a it's like a like you inhale
it right, Like it's like a.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Usually what you do with oxygen, yeah, you breathe.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But we do how else do you do oxygen? Oxygen?
I'm going to look put it in my nose, I
put in my ears now, yeah, no, I tak an
oxygen bar you like you like almost like a like
a as a pump kind of thing, isn't it. That'll
be our director, our our our plan. We have to
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go to an oxygen bar within the next year.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Be next.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I don't know do they have any in New York?
I wonder if I'll have to look at up. I'm
sure they do. Anybody knows of a good oxygen bar
that gives like as a happy hour discount.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Let us know, somebody needs to open a gay oxygen
bar in the West Village.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
There you go, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
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Speaker 1 (24:20):
Popper scented oxygen. Yeah, or like you can get like
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Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's right, but you know then much love to the
Chaconi family.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yes, yes, it's it's gotta be. I can't imagine being
Sylvia right now, like you know, in his nineties, burying
a second wife and a son, a second son, a
second We hear that Martin is not doing so well either.
Mc chaconi. That's another rumor. I'm not sure, but supposedly
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he's he's not, he's kind of his health is wavering
as well.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, he's isn't He's the oldest, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm never I'm never sure of the ages. I don't
know whether Like she's the oldest girl, right.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, she's the oldest girl. I think Martin might be
the old Maybe I might be wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Who knows? Anthony was was Anthony was from Joan or no?
Joan had two kids, right, two of the kids are Jones.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Jennifer isn't isn't one of them?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Jennifer? Yes? And Mario Mario is a Joan. I didn't
know that.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Okay, So Martin is sixty seven, Okay, so he's I
think he's technically the oldest.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
He sounds like the oldest. Yeah, because god, Martin was
so beautiful enough, Martin was so hot and true there.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
There Yeah, uh.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That voice he is, like I had it lowered for
you especially, Oh God, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Maybe he could maybe maybe he could make a comeback
with the voice.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
The voice. But there's been other like remasters released, right
like True Blue or something you said.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Blue True Blue came out that and I mean a
lot of people are very Oh, I don't care about
the singles being really you know, re released.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm kind of happy that they are. I like, I like,
I like seeing the covers.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, I'm you know, listening, you know, if I'm streaming
from Spotify or Title or whatever. It doesn't sound any
different from any of the other releases, So I don't
I don't think that it was remastered much, maybe just
you know, adjusted.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
You know, volume.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But no, I I'm happy it's there.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I mean, because there's there's like a point, there's a
point in time that her music wasn't on Apple, right,
it wasn't on like there's one like year where everything
all of a sudden, her whole catalog became available.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, Well, they just started a couple of years back,
they started really re releasing all the older singles, but
there was nothing out on streaming besides like like before sorry,
I think, oh wow, it was up there, and then
a couple of the other singles, you know, sporadically like afterwards,
(27:44):
were put up, you know, like the newer stuff got it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
So October it has been a kind of productive year
for her. I guess right, because we're coming up on
the anniversary of Erotica in a couple of days. In
the twentieth we.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Have bedtime stories.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Bedtime Stories is what was it October past?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Ready or no, no, it's it's October twenty something.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh wow, Yeah, October. October seems like was her her
time to release stuff. October twenty fifth. Wow. Yeah, March
in October seemed to be her, like her release her
favorite months to release stuff. Because I think American Life
was released right around my birthday or not on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It was an American Life was in April. I was
April sure, and it was after my birthday.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I know that something came out like either the day
before or.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Came out the beginning of April.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Okay, there's a March twenty second or twenty first maybe
it was like a prayer possibly.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
But Bedtime Stories was the first album I got on
a release day. I got the cassette or we went
to Sam Goodie and I bought it.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh wow, I got that on CD actually, probably a
day or so after the release. I remember me and
my friend Pedro I always talking about him, one of
my first Madonna fan friends. We like I tak I
mentaged this in the last episode we both had. I
had my nose pierced. He had his belly button pierced
in her honor because she had that was her piercing
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album and her little club kid club kid look that
she had. And and what's funny is that was when
we were like hanging out at in Limelight and stuff
like that, So she was like right in line with us,
like or we were right in line with her because
that was our club kid days, like ninety three, ninety four,
(29:45):
ninety five. It was fun to see her like kind
of emulating the people that we were seeing in the clubs.
You know. That's why I've never like I've said about
how old I am, almost fifty, but like if I
was younger, I wouldn't have experienced like the club scene
in New York the way I did. And so I'm
(30:06):
not I'm never embarrassed or sad about my age because
I wouldn't have you know, I wouldn't have been able
to witness all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I mean it was it was the early nineties, Madonna.
That was a good time to be in New York specifically,
I mean there were there, there was a lot of
a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, it was really
up until up until a Vita.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, she was very like New York minded in that
time period. And then next she moved and she had
the the Miami Home and she painted with the stripes.
But she was she was a club kid in the
in the early nineties. And like also it was also
kind of cool to be like how new York The
Sex Book was like, that was all the New York
places that were in there. Like I had gone to
a couple of them where I knew Julie Tolantino, who's
(30:57):
the one of the lesbians in the in the early
part of the book. That's like putting a knife up
to her and all that. Yeah, she owned she either
owned Mother or she ran the Click club. The Mother
was a club in the in the meatpacking district in
the nineties, and every night had a different party. There's
(31:18):
Click and Drag, which was like a cyber fetish kind
of party. There's Jackie six O, which was like a
house music like discovery kind of party where all the
downtown celebutants will go to. Then there was like a
leathery lesbian party called Click Club. I think she was
(31:38):
in charge of that, the Click Club like c L club. Yeah, yeah, okay,
that that thing that men can't find. Listen.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I don't think I've ever seen one in person.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
No, never, only on the way out.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
No, no, no, God, no, I didn't even come out
of one.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Are you a sea section?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I was a c section baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
When I found out what a c section is, I
lost my mind.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We have this conversation in the car on the way
you see terrified.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, I just thought it was like they cut, they
put a little cut and pulled the baby out. Nope, no,
they We won't go into that. We won't go into that.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
A lot of lot of stuff. Just watch Terrifier. It's
basically the same thing as a sea section.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
That one. That one death is still haunting me. Everybodnyone
hasn't seen it yet, or if you've seen it, there's
a death in that movie or a murder scene in
that movie that the person who came up with it
needs to be arrested and they need their their hard
drive constant confiscated.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I mean I giggled throughout most of it. I was like,
oh he and like you're probably like you're a psycho,
get me out of here, but no.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I mean it was, it was there was It had
a lot of comedic aspects to it and over the
top like horror things kind of you know, it made
sense to to giggle, and we I giggled, but just
that just the whole situation behind that one that seemed
just kind of was like, how did somebody think about
that being a way to kill somebody? Terrible?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Meanwhile, everybody else ran out to see Wolverine and uh,
spider Man.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, we're supposed to see that Deadpool. That's right, we're
supposed to see that. And I still haven't seen it,
but I think it's on streaming now, right.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, we'll get around to it.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, we'll get around to it, because I just want
to see. Supposedly the whole way that they used like
a prayer is just so perfect, and she actually had
a little bit of saying it and I'd just like
to see that. But yeah, we hype is all about.
We played a little bit of a B side from
(34:05):
the Cherist single back in the day, a little bit
of you know, to usher in Spooky Season. We played
a little bit of the original version of Supernatural. But
back in the day, one of the ways that I
learned about all like Cold Porter music and all that
kind of stuff was there's an organization called the Red Hot,
(34:26):
Red Hot and Blue Organization. They had an album of
all pop stars doing doing covers of Cold Porter songs.
But the following release from them was an album I
think it was ninety four perhaps called Red Hot and
Dance and it features It featured a lot of pop
(34:46):
stars and like house music classics on it, and also
it featured three songs that were going to end up
on George Michael's Listened Without Prejudice Volume two, which is
spposed to be a dance album. So that's what Too
Funky was supposed to be from from George Michael. But
we were blessed back then with the uh with a
(35:12):
remix of a never It was basically just a B
side from the Like a Pair album was supposed to
be on the album, but it was called Supernatural. Do
you remember that remix? We sure do.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I own the CD.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
It was like we also, I think most of us
heard the remix before we heard the original, right, did you?
Was that how it worked with you? For me?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Yeah, I think a lot of people didn't really because
Terrish wasn't like a remixed song. So I don't think
we I don't think a lot of people got the single. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I don't think I heard the original, the original version,
until like I want to say, late nineties or early
two thousands.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, it was later in that.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Time, because I feel like it was I only I
want to say I probably heard it from Sorry guys, Napster.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Do you remember do you remember three inch CD singles? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well that's that's you know that CD single box set
from Japan that's all three inch singles.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Because that's I had the Cherish single of that, and
I just I don't think I I might not have
listened to Supernatural on there, because but I know it
was on there.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well, you needed a trade disc, you know, CD player
that had like you know, that little dip in the middle,
like you couldn't use like a slot loading CD.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, it had to be a special one because it
had to it had to sit in the middle, right. Yeah,
it was almost like a forty five for anyone who
knows about records. It was a smaller version of a CD,
and you couldn't play it in every player like your
player had to if you were like boomboxes for CD
players had like a this is a you're relic talking
(37:00):
about a CD player, right, Like the CD would open
and kind of like go diagonal and then you put
you would rest the CD and close it and it
would start playing. But these were smaller, so there was
no way to play it unless you had like a
unless there was a flat like horizontal Yeah, yeah, like
a tray.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Like something that you know like the CD players that
you the lid pops up, but there's still the center
spindle piece.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, you could place the disc down on. But I
wonder what the what the point of those were like
was it just like smaller, smaller room on it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And they're really popular in Japan, okay, And like I
believe because I have a couple three inch CD singles
that came in they kept they came in like long
like card boxes and plastic. Right, Yeah, I think you're
supposed to. I believe you're supposed to like snap them
(37:57):
to make them small minor, though I think I might
be wrong. Somebody, you know Japanese CD collectors come talk
to me. I want to know what that's for.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, I mean I wonder, I wonder if they had
like if they had like many many players, you know
that only those that only those would fit in you
know what I mean? Maybe who knows?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Because that they were very popular in Japan.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
A lot of those also fit in your like in
your old desktop computer thing that had a little hold
for them.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
But they were so cute because it was like it
was like a like a forty five to a regular LP.
It was like this little tiny disc and had like
I just had two songs on it had to Cherish
just to the radio edit and then it had the
original version of Supernatural.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah, Ma, your coach is l one night You'll blow around.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
You know, you gave me fi Jill seem like a
nor marry Man, my grandpa.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
Chanting little be imposed yourself.
Speaker 8 (39:27):
Fall a man.
Speaker 9 (39:29):
You though you didn't say.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Very much that body and you're good in my head.
Speaker 10 (39:38):
You know I'm really quite charge.
Speaker 9 (39:41):
Way time with your way, all.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
But a lonely way.
Speaker 11 (39:54):
Close glass.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
Take my chance.
Speaker 9 (40:06):
From that joy.
Speaker 10 (40:10):
My joy, say.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Excite that fas rescuers love a very repe not just
for I want.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Don't have to ask?
Speaker 10 (40:35):
Are you reading my mind?
Speaker 12 (40:38):
Not a many for a man that's really quite there,
You're nothing need be obsessed with your.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
Hair, not absepted.
Speaker 8 (40:48):
We come from data.
Speaker 12 (40:53):
For ghost, you're a very good many can.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Say they are amazing. Takes lunches.
Speaker 9 (41:21):
As Jos Jos Jo.
Speaker 10 (41:33):
Take much as I can't make my JOm.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
Asked Jo.
Speaker 11 (41:58):
I can't see so you're up here, stop that thinking crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
J Ju.
Speaker 10 (42:43):
Jumping jo.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Jo.
Speaker 10 (43:01):
Can't you make.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
That's take?
Speaker 10 (43:09):
My sills are telling.
Speaker 8 (43:19):
Him, so reel agree, feel agree?
Speaker 1 (44:07):
It is uh spooky or spooky season approaching. Hey, you
know it's funny. I've been using the word spoopy because
I love it, but I didn't know what it meant.
It means like something scary but done in a cute way,
So I'm not I'm not as much of a fan
as of spoopy as I thought. I thought spooky was
just like what the New Kids were calling like scary,
(44:28):
you know.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Hmm, spoopy spoopy and demurr.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
Is that what they say to me? We don't say demrr.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
We don't say that.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
We don't talk about Bruno. Okay, maybe know what that means.
Just hear things that the kids say on the internet.
But you know, I've been, I've been. I've been very active,
not active, but like reading uh the Madonna read it
like like community and they're very interesting, Like they're very
(45:00):
A shout out to them. They're not like they're not
frivolous and like yelling at each other or like posting
the same thing over and over again like a lot
of the Facebook groups are. They're actually like dissecting things
and talking about like cool things in the in the
Madonna lexicon. So yeah, I brows it from time to time. Yeah,
you know, I get I get emails from it because
(45:22):
I think I follow it, so I get like an
update every a couple of days. But I like Reddit.
It's got it's it's like.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
That's where I prefer to get like my search results from.
Like I don't know if anybody else does this. I do,
Like if I really do something, I'll like go on
Google and I'll type in blah blah blah blah blah Reddit.
Oh interesting, way, I kind of like if I want
to know like real life answers.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Then your real life questions to real life questions. Yeah,
so should we uh? Should we get our little special
guest on soon?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I mean eventually, I hope.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
So.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I mean, oh god, I just got hit in the
head with a compact. Coma White's in dire need of
attention right now. Please don't invite her up here.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Then there's a sound there's a sound defective for it too.
I heard, I heard the compact. I felt like it
hit me.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
She looks like she's three sheets to the wind.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Wow, you're good. I know that was good. Right, I'm
Kurt Loader. I'm Kurt Loader right now.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
All right, I'll get Coma on.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
Hold on, So, Stevie, we have a special guest, right,
I know.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
The bodacious b movie Bimbo.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Who did that?
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Here?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
She's here herself, Coma White.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Coma White a Madonna worship staple, Hellove.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Hello, hello, die your need of attention right now.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
I'm about to throw my compact at you.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You already did you ready? You don't even remember? That's
how we don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's that's that's how that's how trashed.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
You are right now.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Yeah, thank you so much for having me, long time listener,
first time guests.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That's yeah. Tom has been a performer at Madonna Worship
several times now, right.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Yes, I've been doing it for I think three or
four years now. I think I started officially during the
pandemic in a very awkward back when we were still
doing digital drag and zoom and all of that.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yes, I did not.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Understand the concept of video editing back then.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
So so I.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
I perform live bedroom in the middle of August, and
it was I hope there's no footage of the side
because it was extremely.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Comfortable.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
I delete it, delete it now, I think I I
think I still have that it might be. I really
hope you don't. It was so bad. Everybody else had
like really nice produced videos and then here I am
in my bedroom middle of August, sweating profusely. You can
you can hear the heels clacking on the hardwood floor.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Oh my gosh. I mean it was it was a pandemic.
It was time.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yeah, it was a time in a place, and yeah,
I think we met.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
We met in person after.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yes, well, we officially first met at stone Wall. I
went to Stonewall to see a friend that was performing
and you were DJing and I was drunk that night
and I went up to you and I'm like, I
know you love Madonna. Play some Madonna for me, and
I believe you put on I think it was like
(49:16):
crave or I search, I find it was something from ADMX. Okay, yeah,
and then from then on I was just like, let
me be in the show. I want it, I need it.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
And we have a Stonewall too, just to because we
we would be, you know, coming coming off of our
rock bar, you know, drinking binge. Let's go see Chauncey
at Stonewall because you know when we walk in, he'll
play Madonna. And every time never failed. Every time he
walked in, Madonna was playing.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
It's true, it's true, but that was I think that
was like after I had already started doing the Madonna
worships with where we had our traditional Chauncey visits.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
The music was bad somewhere else we knew we could
get our Madonna fix.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I know my people, I know how to please. And
it's also like it's also like what's funny is me
and Mike, one of the managers at stoll Wall. For
some reason, for a good amount of time, whenever I
played Madonna, the dance floor would clear and we would
we would get so freaked out because it was like
(50:30):
it wasn't like we were playing like some random B
side that nobody knew, like we would be playing I
would play like a hit or you know, maybe something
from Adamax or whatever, but it's still sounded and blended
into all the other songs. But for some reason we
would laugh at it because we loved it. But he's like,
he's like, what the hell is the problem? He's like,
every time you played Madonna in the room close and
then if I played Madonna like during a busy night,
(50:51):
he come like, you want to go home early, don't you?
Speaker 4 (50:57):
You know?
Speaker 1 (50:57):
But no, I just want to hear it because I
love her.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
It breaks my heart how a lot of gays it
seems like they've turned their backs on her, and you know,
to hear that, they clear the floor. Extremely homophobic. You're
all gonna burn for.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
It didn't happen all the time, but the times that
did it was it was like uncanny. It was like,
but wait, like this sound this remix sounds just like
the song I just played. It's not like it was
so funny.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
But still I still get people that will be like,
I'll perform a Madonna song and they'll be like, oh,
I didn't know that was Madonna. That literally happened this
past week.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Oh at rock Bar because you're rock Bar.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
And then a private Kike that I did.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Okay, I don't know if you knew this coma is
doing the Mixed Rock Bar competition this year.
Speaker 10 (51:48):
I am.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
He did two Madonna numbers for this week and he won. Surprise, surprise,
he won the week.
Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah, so I'm moving onto the semifinals. And you know,
because you know, when I do Madonna, I like to
do like full on impersonation, like details down to a tee.
I did not want to impersonate her on Monday, but no,
I still even Monday, and then somebody was like, oh,
(52:20):
I didn't even know this was Madonna. And then I
did Erotica and Fever and secret that's crazy popular the day.
But Sunday I did a bachelorette party and I did
Crazy for You and the girl was like, is this
Stevie Nicks I'm like, bitch, it's Madonna, wow, I know,
(52:46):
and crazy for you, like, you know, if if you
don't get the nineties stuff or her later stuff, I
can see that, But an eighties staple like crazy for you,
you should know better.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Educate the children.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
I try to.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I try to, you know, But I seem to remember
a certain Madonna party that was at a certain bar
and the DJ may or may not have played a
Gaga song which I didn't even know was a Gaga song.
I remember being on the dance floor with some people
and I think it was fashion.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Is that a Gaga song? Yes, okay, I think it was.
That song came on. I was like what is this?
Speaker 2 (53:30):
And I turned and it cleared the dance floor. But
that was a Madonna event, so I didn't even know
what it was.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
I was like, what is it?
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Like I was, I didn't even know who it was.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
So yeah, I that's a song that sounds like that's
a song that sounds like Whitney Houston. Right, I want
to dance with somebody Fashion of his Love or something. Right.
Speaker 4 (53:53):
No, it's no fashion looking good feeling holiday.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Actually, all all their big songs sound like some Madonna's song. Well,
let's not waste time on Gaga on the Madonna Worship podcast.
But you know that Madonna's Madonna's the reason that I
work at Stonewall because when I went in for my interview,
I sat in the back with Mike and we were
chatting and he goes, and I also hear you like Madonna.
(54:22):
I go, oh my god, I love Madonna. He's like,
all right, you're hired.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
I love that, you know. I've also made a lot
of friends too, Like that's I think that's why I
also connect with older men because we we bond over.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Queen m So and we have I haven't asked you yet,
but we have a Madonna worship coming up in December
at Red Eye and I believe the twenty eighth, and
we'd love to have you aboard.
Speaker 4 (54:52):
I will put it in my calendar.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Oh really, Oh okay, you're gonna use ink pencil therey.
Speaker 6 (55:00):
Say no more.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
I mean, you know, I will always be there for
the Madonna shows and because and you know, I love
to pull out, especially for the big ones in the summer.
I like to do, you know, like a big production.
But then for you know, when we did the Bread
Eye last year, I like to pull out like a
like a B side or something like a look of love,
(55:22):
you know, So that gives me the opportunity to do
basically just to do the whole who's that girl? Such?
Speaker 1 (55:27):
I know you're such a good Nikki Finn.
Speaker 4 (55:30):
Thank you. What were you saying, Stevie?
Speaker 1 (55:32):
You know what you should do?
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Tell me because Chauncey and I were just talking about
this because you know, we saw a terrifier this weekend. Okay,
you should do a terrifier Madonna number to Santa Baby.
Speaker 4 (55:44):
Oh yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (55:52):
Well, we'll get the corn syrup ready.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
Oh my goodness. I have buckets of it with decorations
at Halloween Adventure.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
Exactly November one. That's when I stuck up on all
my fake blood.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I don't know, I don't I don't know if a
lot of the Madonna like that, the Madonna worship family
knows like that. You don't just do Madonna like you
do a lot of horror stuff too, like with a
lot of special effects.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
And you know, well, I think there's like you know,
I mean, Poma's aesthetic is very like like like ultra feminized.
It's not like it's like big boobs and big hair
and big makeup and all that. So it's like it's
like a it's like a caricature. And to begin with,
that's what makes it so amazing.
Speaker 4 (56:43):
Thank you. Yeah, it's my my drag is very woman.
That's that's I strive to be.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, it's like over like like a blown up version
of a woman, which is amazing.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
I will take that, thank you. Yeah. No, I I
think that's the case with a lot of things. I
you know, I think certain people see me do one
thing and they're like, oh, well, you only do horror
and you're only a spooky girl. But then I go
and do like the Madonna shows where I'm like doing
like full on, like I want to look exactly like her.
I want the outfit to be exact. So it's it's
(57:20):
I like to say, my drug is very versatile. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, but when you're in Dragon, you walk down the street,
I would never mistaken you for like a real lady.
Speaker 4 (57:30):
No. No, but you know that doesn't stop the chaser chasing.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
But they love they love the grandiosity. No, I'm saying
like you're you're obviously like you're you're a character, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (57:43):
But men don't care if the boobs are rubber and fake.
They still want it.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
Do you remember do you remember?
Speaker 2 (57:50):
It was after I think it was the first Madonna worship,
like post Pandemic, and we, you know, after we left
Madonna Worship, we went to rock Bar and.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
That was my first chaser. His name was Eric. I
never remember him greatly, and I was dressed as Nicky
Finn because I had just come from stone Wall. And
now every time I encounter a chaser, I tell them
my name is Nicki and I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, and
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I have to catch the bus home so they cannot
come home with me.
Speaker 1 (58:27):
I mean he was pretty strong too.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
He was yeah, oh yeah, he was ready to give
me the hotel key.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
He was ice cream on your toes.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
He went into great detail with me. Yeah, I want
I want to I want to get that that maple
ice cream. I'm like maple ice cream with like, I.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Don't remember that I do.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
And then he Stevie has a freakishly like insane memory,
and he was everything, and I'm like, like, stop remembering everything.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
It's uh, really we should have invited him in the
night that I puked on you.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, he would have that would.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Have been I don't Did you ever see that number, Chauncy?
Did I ever show you the videos? Like there's there's
a number where I've puked on coma on.
Speaker 1 (59:16):
Stage purpose purpose, Yeah, like you were drunk. Oh no,
she wanted it, she wanted it bad.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Yeah, it tasted like cigarettes and oatmeal.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
The news by Stevie Vok's cigarettes oatmeal.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I mean, well, you know we're work. We're workshopping our
Halloween costume. I was thinking of being Miss Argentina and
Stevie is going to be Juno the case work.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yes, I mean it's very un brand.
Speaker 11 (59:54):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
Absolutely put the trick out of me.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
But we're doing Beetle Juice. Were at Stonewall this year
and I'm I was too right now, but I was
almost got somebody to make me the red wedding dress.
Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
But oh that's so good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, but that's not gonna happen. Maybe next year. I
still have to figure out what I only have, Like
what do I have like fifteen days or twelve days?
They figured out because I'll be daching at Snowball. I
have to figure out because I'm usually in drag on
Halloween at Stonewall. That was like an unspoken rule from
Mike the manager. He was like, he's like, whenever you
you dj on Halloween, you have to dj and drag.
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I'm like, okay, I mean looking.
Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
To Beetlejuice just a messy way and some green and
black splotches on your face.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, I was thinking of doing like kind of like
a like a female busted version of beetle Juice. We'll see.
I love that, Like I've been looking at uh, looking.
Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
At beetle Beetles. Have you ever seen that? That's actually
a movie. It's the porn parody of Beetlejuice called Beatlegism.
Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
My god, John Cy's downloading it right now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
So is Nicky Fin your favorite? Madonna?
Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Just pick because I love so many different versions, Like
obviously eighties Madonna is my favorite. Who's that girl? I
just I grew up with watching that. I mean I
didn't grow up during that time, but my sister grew
up with it. She had it on VHS and she
introduced me to it. So it's just something that I
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would always watch when I was little.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Surprised that it wasn't a success. I think it's such
a great movie.
Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I watch it like all the time, especially when I
do the Madonna worships, I watch Who's That Girl and
Desperately Seeking Susan because that like really gets me like
in the mood. Yeah groove exactly, And yeah, I watched
like Who's That Girl like three times in August because
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I was just I love it so much. While I
was working on my outfit for this year's Madonna worship,
which was Dressed You Up, I hand painted that entire
jacket from the Virgin Tour, And while I was doing that,
I was watching Who's That Girl? Like on Reaping.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I just don't know why it wasn't why it was
panned because it's so funny.
Speaker 4 (01:02:27):
I mean now, like, yeah, it's so great. It's just
it's so New York too, which is what I love.
I mean that in Desperacy good Susan, but like Who's
that Girl just really has that like New York in
the eighties feel. Yeah, And I love that so much.
And the music's great, like yeah, causing a commotion upset
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like I mean, actually the whole soundtrack can't stop and
look of love and Who's that Girl?
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Like I song I know, and I love the way
she performs it. On the wh that girl with the
conveyor belt. Oh my god. Oh yeah, so simple but
like so effective.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
I know if only I could have had a conveyor
belt at bred Eye. We'll work on effort exactly, Daniel.
Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Can you install a conveyor belt for one of my performers?
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Maybe we could like make a makeshift one. You could
have like people, yeah, treadmill, that would be really.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Really slow moving treadmill.
Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yes, And we'll have like Murray the Cat somewhere and
I'll beat him chickennugget.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
We'll find we'll get somebody who has like the costume
from the musical Cats.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Oh yeah, you should be you should be a cat?
Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Then maybe Ury.
Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Mary Vox there you go. Yeah, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
That's so many fun things like That's one thing I
have to say. That's why I love being friends with Yukoma,
because we have so much fun together just talking the ship,
you know, and brainstorming for you know, numbers and shows
and you two are.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Great and I love it.
Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Yeah. One of my numbers that I plan on doing
for Miss rock Bar, I told Stevie my idea and
I was like, what song would go with this? And
it just so perfect. I'm not going to say it
right now, but don't say yeah, you'll just have to
come and watch. But it's such a good Oh, that's
(01:04:46):
so good. It's so perfect. So I'm really excited about that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
When So when I know that there's still some more
weeks left in the mixed rock bar competition, when when
is the semi finals?
Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Semi finals will be held on November fourth, and I
believe the finale is the week after, so I think
that's the eleven. They're on Monday.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So so I mean, listen, you know, if anybody wants
to come out, feel free, because it's it's it's gonna
be a it's gonna be a number. So yeah, it's
a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
I actually judged was it the fifth year for the
second years when it was miss rock Bar before the
thing happened.
Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
I know, and I keep calling it miss but when
I went, I'm going to have them change it to
miss because I'm such a woman.
Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
That's funny. It's rip the X off and put an
S there.
Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna have them make me that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
But and you have I mean, aside from mixed rock bar,
miss rock bar, mixed rock or whatever you want to
call it. You have a you have a couple, you
have a couple of Halloween shows coming up too, right?
Speaker 4 (01:06:04):
Oh, yes, this month has been bus another club bus,
no sleep. It's been very busy for me. But I'm
very grateful. Yeah, and you know, I'm grateful to be
booked and in demand. So yeah, I don't know when
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this will air, but I have some stuff coming up.
On the twenty third, I'll be a playhouse for a
fem house which is Lori's Story's Party and the theme
is horror movies. I'll be in Patchog all the way
like deep in Long Island, in Patchog at the Pine
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Grove Inn. On the twenty six doing a Monster's Ball
with all my Long Island sisters. On the twenty ninth,
I will be doing a show with Camber Fowler of
the Lupus Horror of Karen Black Wow. And on the
thirty first, I do Halloween at Rock Bar. I've been
doing it there for the past like three years, so
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that's gonna be fun. And I'm gonna have a special
guest on the slash who's coming all the way from Baltimore.
Had her last year, she was great. And then we're
doing a collaboration with the Gay Geeks of New York.
So they're gonna be judging the costume contest.
Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Yeah, good guys.
Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
They're really good guys.
Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah, so it's been pretty busy for me. Also, I
am the Queen of the Month for get Out magazine,
which I'm about that I believe just dropped this week.
Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
That's amazing. I have to get a thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I'll sign it for I'll send you a copy.
Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah, so silver blood ink.
Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Yes, I'll write it with my tits.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Just like.
Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
Just two big melons. Just that's just the autograph. Yeah, exactly.
Besso's baby.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Love that. See you could use that. So yeah, this
will be up before. This will be out way before
the show, so we will definitely be plugging them and
uh and we look forward to seeing what you'll do
for uh Madonna Worship on the twenty eighth of December
at Red Eye Link will be up soon. I haven't
(01:08:45):
I haven't admitted all this stuff yet, but yeah, I'm
always excited to see what you come up with for
Madonna Worship. You're definitely one of my definitely one of
my favorites. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
It's such an honor to get to do that party,
and I put such a tremendous amount of pressure on myself, which.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Is I know, I remember when you did that, the
year that you did the fifteenth anniversary, when you did
the fever Erotica thing, you were so nervous.
Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
I was also extremely hot and sweating profusely because it
was middle of August, being wearing a breastplate and pads
and corset.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, I'm sure it's not.
Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
It's not the tea. So I never remember at Stonewall
I because it would get so hot in there, especially
with so many people there. I would I remember. I
think the first time I did it there, my lash
came off before I was about to go on, and
I had to quickly grew it on because I was
sweating so much.
Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Oh Man used to That's kind of where we outgrew it,
you know. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But I I put so much pressure on myself because
I know I'm performing for like hard hardcore fans, they
will notice every little detail, and but they'll also appreciate
every little detail. So yeah, really, I do it because
I love it, and I also want to impress.
Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
The crowd, and.
Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
And I'm I'm glad I've gotten so much great feedback
from the audience. So I'm super grateful and thankful to
always get to be a part of it. It's one
of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Likewise, uncomfortable silence can be so the silence of the lambs.
But we're definitely we're about to wrap things up, and
I gotta, I gotta get ready for work. Speaking of ladies,
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are going to work for the ladies. Tell everybody where
they can find you.
Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
So you can find me on all social media platforms
under Koma White and YC.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
That the c O M A.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
White and YC. And like I said, you can find
me in get Out magazine as the Queen of the Month.
I was also interviewed for the Spanish book Scream Queer
Too Love and Hence, written by Javier Barda, and I
believe that is available now if you want to pick
(01:11:22):
that up. It's all in Spanish, so if you can't
read Spanish, you're.
Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Out of luck.
Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
But you know, buy a copy and I'll translate it
for you.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
That's funny, all right. So, uh, we're gonna we're gonna
wrap things up. We played the remix to Supernatural a
little earlier. That was from the Red Hot and Dance
compilation and uh, we're just gonna surprise you what we're
going to close out with. But thank you for joining us.
You are our first official guest because the last week
(01:11:57):
we kind of it was Jessica Rose. We kind of
bullied her into joining last minute, but we definitely wanted
to have you on fort for our October episode. You know,
you are the queen of the.
Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
Month, of course, you know, you know, it was really
nice talking to you, and uh, really good luck with
your show.
Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Oh well, good luck to you too.
Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
I mean, I'm so excited about Shark Nato and I
hope you stay married, and.
Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
I hope you stay married too, I will.
Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
And I hope your knees get a little wobblier than
they already are and have a.
Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Good oh my knees. Well, I hope your kids get
even nicer. Same guy that did.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Mine, right, Yeah, they are, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
Oh fantastic. I'll always use your advice. You're the best BUYE.
Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Love you Coma by coma.
Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
God, she's such a slut.
Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Who was that from?
Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
It's Jenny McCarthy and Tara Reid's Like Tara Reid was
on Jenny McCarthy's podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Okay, and like Tara Reid walked off, Oh that is terrible.
All right, So well I did a lot of this
stuff out like not that stuff. That was great, but
I'm saying, like the little pauses and stuff, but we
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should end it, right, yeah, we should end it. Okay,
all right, Well, Stevie, that was That was a fun
episode with our special guest Coma White. Yes, yes, absolutely was.
You can catch her catch her at Rock Bar on
Halloween and she'll be one of the featured performers at
our next Madonna Worship Holiday edition on December twenty eighth,
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the Saturday at Red Eye in the House, kitchen Catcher.
Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Catcher in the bathroom. Yeah, catch her on the corner.
Not the same corner that we're on. She's on a
different corner exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
She's in a different, different corner. But yeah, now, thank
you again for listening everyone. We'll try to get another
episode out in November. If you have any you know,
if you have any suggestion, you'll follow us at Madonna
Worship on Instagram, Stevie Vox on Instagram, and DJ chauncy
D on Instagram and give us your feedback and share
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our podcast with your friend insaid that, like Madonna, thank
you all. I have a great night. See later until
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