February 8, 2025 • 57 mins
"I was beat, incomplete." Stevie and Chauncey are back to the task of Madonna Worship with a special deluxe version of the podcast split up into two parts right down the middle for your pleasure! Side A follows the dynamic duo on their tangent filled dive into Madonna’s career-defining sophomore album “Like A Virgin” discussing their favorite tracks and which deep cuts they hold dear like an 80s high school drama club girl held onto her diary. They discuss the NYC Glam Awards, in which Madonna Worship Night was nominated for Best Nightlife Event ‘for the very first time” as well as the upcoming Madonna Worship Night: Bedtime Story Edition in March being held in a “secret" location in Chelsea, NYC. Follow @madonnaworship @djchaunceyD and @stevievox to find out all the details and they are revealed. Side B welcomes godmother to the Madonna fan community, Michele Ruiz, who has increasingly become an integral part of the Madonna Worship Night legacy alongside Chauncey and is treasured around the world as one of Madonna’s biggest fans. The three discuss their favorite eras and Madonna moments they’ve experienced over the years as well as how important Like A Virgin was to them at a young age. Stay tuned for release date!
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Stevie, Hey Chauncey. How's it going pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I feel like it's been like months since our last episode,
but it hasn't been.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And it really hasn't been. It's been a couple couple
of weeks, but.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think it's had been such an action packed set
of days and hours since since the middle of January.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
When we were when we last recorded. Yeah, so I
purposely haven't asked you about this, like outside of outside
of recording because I wanted to get like the full
tea while we recorded. But how is the Glamour Awards?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh? Oh, okay? For those who don't know, the glam
Awards are the New York City like Queer night Life Awards,
you know, featuring like drag queens and parties and DJs
and all that kind of stuff. And the first year
that Madonna Worship was nominated for Best night Life Event, which.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Was really cool, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Madonna Worship night up on the up on the screens
when they announced it. You know, the Glamor Awards are
very interesting because it's one of the few nights that
everyone in night life can pretty much be in the
same room and hang out rather than work. So it's
always a fun, fun thing for that. This was the
first year, well last year, it fell on one of
Madonna's concerts, so I popped in for like a half
(01:38):
an hour, then we scooed it out of there. I
was nominated for Best Bar DJ as well and polished
the Queen a Competition, a drag competition that I helped run.
Was also nominated for Best Competition. But the domination I
was really excited about was for Madonna Worship, and the
rest of the nominees on that list were like this huge,
(01:58):
like amazing event. It's like one actually one. It's called
stand up and why ny see that? I also have
a DJ at it's a full fundraiser. The first time
they did it, they sold out three dollars bill and
had like eighty performances. It was insane. So I guess
I was nominated kind of four times or I was
(02:20):
a part of a couple other things. I don't know
if that didn't even win, but that should have won,
but uh, I didn't expect to win. I just it's
I know it sounds cliched when people say it's it's
an honor to be nominated, it really is, because they
do nominate a lot of people, Like it's not like
three people, like it's not like five artists like in
the Grammys. It's like nine different things. But it was
(02:42):
it was really cool to just, you know, I'm I'm
I'm closing in on you know, a half a century
and I've been in the business for a little over
twenty two years, so it's kind of cool to still
be a contender.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know. That's awesome. And I saw some fokse. It
looked like a great time. It looked like that had
great perform.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
People really put out, like put on some really amazing
looks and they really turn it out for that event,
and uh, it's really fun. It was just it's a
little sardine canish though. They kind of put everyone in
this room and you can't really move once you sit down.
That's really my only complaint about the event. It's like
they don't leave a hair of space between you and
(03:26):
the table next to you, so everyone's constantly bumping into
each other. Looks like molecules.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And it's more of like like a sit down type
of thing, like you sit down, you're at a table.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like the you know, the Grammys. It's like these round
tables and there's like a bunch of room in between
each table. This is like sardine can, Like you're you're
sitting right next to.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They should just get cafeteria tables.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, your back is to the person behind his back
and you can barely move. And if you're not a
petite flower, which I'm not. I got a little shoe,
but I got a little cluster a few times and
I had to like get up and leave and go
out and have a cigarette. Right it went out and
like we just went to the bar. But you're just
kind of stuck there, you know, hm hmm. And then
(04:11):
when you lose and you're stuck there, it's even more
like you're like I can't like if I get up
and I run away right now, everyone's gonna know that's
the reason, even though that's what I wanted to do,
you know, well, because I've been nominated for DJ. It's
my eleventh year being nominated, and it's just like it's
never gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But it's just the Susan, the Susan Lucci.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Huh, I know, I seriously am yeah, And but she
eventually won, right and she eventually.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't think so I don't think so maybe she did.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think she eventually won, so maybe. But you know
what's really funny I told a couple of years ago,
I said, hey, everybody vote for me to win Best DJ,
because if I win, I'll retire. M and I still
haven't won, So maybe the university just saying, don't retire.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know you're not You're ever gonna retire. You can't.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I have to retire at some point, my hand what
if my hands fall off?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
AI? Listen, you could you could speak into a mic
and DJ this song after this? Yeah, just like you
know Alexis play a play like a Virgin by Madonna.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Mine would be my voice person.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Would be Penelope, Penelope you name of Penelope Pelope?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Can you can you follow this song with the Tracy
Young remix of Crave Please Thank You.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I wouldn't be surprised if that's where that's where DJing
goes eventually.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You're just like you're like calling in the next song.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That would be really funny, Like you type it into
chat GPT, create a forty minute set of the following
songs and poop it's done.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I mean, if I didn't have arms, I would
have to I would have to speak it, and you
speak to text. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know, put an electrode on your forehead or something
so you could use your brain waves.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, and it'll know what I'm thinking. It'll be like, oh,
Chauncy wants to pay this song, so we're gonna pay
this next and we're gonna mix it in cour it's
the halfpoint. We're gonna wait till the bridge at least concludes,
and then as the next chorus is happening, we're going
to bring in the next song slowly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But make sure you like me, I would be like,
but make sure you use the rip from the Japanese
CD that was released in nineteen oh shit, because it
had better master.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's one thing about you, Stevie, And I don't know
if anybody knows Stevie is the master of like the
like the media part of the music, like how many
different like releases and like when it was released. You know,
you're like the rain Man.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of the rain Man of a physical media. And I
feel there's there's definitely more like people out there that
have bigger, you know, and like larger collections of a
physical media than I do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I know, but I think you, I think you're
discounting yourself and your skills and your superpowers. Stevee even knows,
Like Stevie can listen to a song and he can
tell you what bit rate it is. Sometimes that was
like that was a YouTube rip for sure, I could tell.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I hate that. I hate it. I hate it so much.
And then anybody who's ever been out with me at
a bar and I know the DJ is playing like
a YouTube or a queen is performing a YouTube rip
or like or just like a really really local like
it's I hear it and bothers me. It affects the tip, Yeah,
it does it really it makes a go limp.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's like it's going to give you a five dollar tip,
but because you ripped it from YouTube, you're only getting
a dollar twenty five minutes and the quarter will be
thrown the person's ear.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Listen, you may not even get a quarter. Maybe it
maybe like a penny's saka JOEA. You know that's a dollar.
It is, but it's annoying. It's a dollar, but it's annoying.
Heavy it is though. I I was guilty once of
only giving a queen a dollar tip because they were
doing a kylie song but they didn't know the words.
(08:23):
I was like, no, you ain't getting two dollars, you
getting a dollar? Oh come on, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I was like, yeah, I'll forgive like a crappy look
quicker than i'll forgive not knowing the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But you know, that's that's I've been accused of being
a bitch for being like, oh, she don't know the words?
Why why did you pick to do this song?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
If you work hard for your money, it shouldn't just
be thrown at a drag queen because they're a drag queen.
They need to, you know, provide you with proper entertainment.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well that's one thing that it always kind of boggled
my mind. It's one thing if you're doing like a
drag suicide, you know where people were just like shouting
requests here, you know, twenty dollars and do you know
wicked or whatever? You know, if you're picking the song
to do, shouldn't you know the words?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And you have mean a look to go with it?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And I mean not even you know, I don't know.
You don't have to have like a you know, a
replica look of whoever you're singing, you know you're lip sinking.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But if it's on your set list.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean yeah, I mean at least kind of have
a cohesive plan and know the words, you know, maybe
pull them up on your phone before you perform it,
or hold your phone up so you could read the
words while your lip syncing. I don't know, just saying,
and then maybe I'll give you a two dollars tip,
(09:48):
because two dollars goes a long way. Now, that's right,
that's like a third of a flout from the food truck.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
My my manager at Stonewall, like it's all giddy when
he knows clapses are on the way. Yeah, they're really yummy, though,
a great.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Where do you get them from? Is there is there
a specific Well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They're a taco truck right by the Chase Bank where
we oh yeah all the time, our special corner.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, that that's where that that's where we we you know,
conceived our child.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, and uh, like a week or so ago. It
was during the day, a little earlier in the evening,
and Stevie was downtown. I was on my way to
work and he was about to text me where I was,
and I.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Was actually just walking right towards them to the corner
where we conceived the podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So it was really fun It was really funny right here.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, and then we went to the bank, went to
the bank, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
The day that we conceived this this podcast. Stevie was
on You're on your way to see depeche Mode, right,
mm hmm, And I was on my way to see
jesse Ware, right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's right. Yeah, it was really funny. And it was
funny because I almost bought tickets to jesse Ware and
I was like, oh, we'll see, we'll see, and you know,
I just never bought them. It's a good thing I
didn't because I probably would have bought it for the
night that you were going. And that's when a friend
of my friend, John had bought me tickets for depeche
Mode for my birthday, but obviously my birthday was like
(11:27):
six months prior. So he's like, oh, I got your
tickets for depeche Mode. I'm like, yeah, that's great, and
like I was like, okay, awesome. You know, I didn't
I didn't realize the dates. The dates would have clashed,
but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
They only you know, like guess the only who does
want one show or two shows next time?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Next time, I'll go, Yeah. I like Jesse, She's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Cute, she puts on a great show. I would like
to see her with a bigger budget to see what
she would do. I love I love what I've seen
her twice and I love what she does. But I
would love to see, like what she would do in
like a little bit of a bigger venue.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
With like Hammerstein Ballroom, I.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Don't know, just just something where there's a little more technology,
because she kind of she has great, fun, campy choreography
and like she sounds beautiful and the lighting, but it's
it's it's simple, you know, m m okay, I would
like to see what she does with with a little more.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A little couple of screens, a couple.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Uh or like a set or something, you know, like
a couple of couple dancers. She has dancers, Okay, Yeah,
it's it's very like I mean, I don't know what
they were like back in the eighties because I missed them.
But Eraser puts out, I've been doing a lot of
anytime they've done a show in the past twenty years
in New York, it's either at Herbing plaza or a
(12:46):
smaller venue where it's basically just Andy Bell being Andy Bell,
running and dancing and splitting around the stage like a
fair like the faery that he is. But I did
see the Cowboy tour and like I think ninety five,
and that was like a full set in like a band,
and you know, nice, they've had.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
To scale down because they don't they don't really sell out.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Venues anymore in America at least. Yeah, I must Razor.
I wish the RAS was coming out something new.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm hoping that they that they tour. I'd love I'd
love to see Andy Bell.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, and he's great. And the show called something about
the Bareback something whatever. It was this weird one man
show that he did only in London or whatever. I'm
so mad that he never brought it here. It sounded
really like interesting and sort of controversial, a little taboo.
We haven't really talked about Madonna.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Much, you know, we really didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
We It's okay, but we had we had the tangent masters,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We I suppose we should talk about why we're actually here.
You know, Madonna, she's she's she's hanging out. You know,
she's nothing too too big happening. She she did that
that little pop up at what was it the comedy club,
(14:08):
Comedy Seller? Comedy Yeah, with Like.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Can you imagine being at the Comedy Seller and all
of a sudden Madonna gets on stage.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean I wonder what people's initial reaction, like, wait,
is that Madonna she getting on stage? Or Amy? My
phone auto corrected to Amy Shoemaker. But Amy Schumer, you
like to change people's names, like you called h Well,
then do you know why I call her Toshiba because
(14:40):
my phone auto corrected Tokisha to Toshiba. I I've only
recently started to know her name, like, like I could
never say her name, but now I think I have it.
It's Tokisha. Yeah, and my phone always just auto corrected
to Toshiba. So I called her Toshiba to be Yeah,
(15:02):
high five video video. That's really funny, I tell you,
just called it. She would to be funny, just to
be funny. Yeah, I mean sure, I mean maybe she should.
Maybe she should like market that, you know, considered, it's
already trademarked by somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And it's already like in the correct world it is.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And absolutely is. But yeah, so she she performed there.
I mean Amy Amy was given her rave reviews.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, like she did a while back, right like before
before the Rebel Heart Work, Amy Schumer opened.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Up for the Rebel Heart Work. Yeah, and then she
could pop up then to right she I believe so.
And she also did like you know, prior to Tiers
of a Clown she did, or maybe it was even
after Tears of a Clown where she was she was
kind of doing what was it, Jimmy Jimmy fallon, Yeah,
Allen did like she did a shorts there, right, Yeah,
(16:01):
just you know, just a couple of little little liners.
You know, they're not one liners, but they're liners.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
She's a great comedian. I enjoy her comedy because I
think I do see the humor and in her you know,
when she's when she's doing it. But I feel like
comedy is one of those things where like people have
very distinctive tastes in comedy. Yeah, and like I feel
like I have a different taste in comedy than most people.
(16:32):
So that's why I think I get Madonna's comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I mean, you're kind of along, You're similar to
my my taste exactly British comedy, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I like British comedy. I wouldn't say I love it,
but I like it. I can appreciate it. I find
a lot of it funny.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's where you and I probably veer off. But most
of our sense of humor, like, we get each other.
We laughed at each other's jokes, so I think, like
the twisted, sadistic sense of humor. We both have that
in common, definitely, But like British humor has this like
dryness to it that I did. I think that I
find really funny and I don't. I don't like I
definitely don't like the easy joke like I don't like
(17:08):
like I like slapstick, but I don't want someone like.
I don't know how to describe what I don't like,
but I know what I like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know, I like like slapstick can be funny at
times at times, but what if it like if it's
too much, then I'm like, eh, this is stupid. You know, just.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You watch did you watch Benny Hill as a kid? No,
I guess that's a general I had older brothers, so
maybe that was a generational thing. He was a little slapsticky,
but it was also like abviance and sexual like innuendo
kind of thing like I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Fine with like situational comedies like sitcoms. Not all of them, though,
only certain ones like Golden Girls. Give me Golden Girls
and I could laugh hysterically all day.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my god, that's like probably one of the best
shows ever.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mean I still laugh at it. I think it
was last Christmas. I took an edible and I put
Golden Girls on, and I was hysterical. I was like
screaming in bed. It just like I took an edible.
It was Christmas. I think it was Christmas Day and
(18:22):
I took an edible and I laid in bed and
I put on Golden Girls and I laughed my ass
off quite literally. So I mean, I like the perfect show.
It really is. It is. I want I would love
more Madonna comedy. You know, maybe she could do another
(18:43):
you know, comedy set within like a tour or something.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh. She also she like when she did in her
early Dave, which we're getting to, she did that.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
When she did second Live, she was incredible, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think the last time said it live, she kind
of like it was not good at all. Members she
had like the bump it in her hair, and.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That was that was the time. I mean, everybody had
a bump it I have.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's the way she looked at like kind of bombed.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
With the Well maybe it was her partner, you know,
that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But I loved her sense of humor. I love her
like I love her laugh. I love when she makes
her happy and so.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But I mean when she did when she did Saturday
Live in eighty six with with the wedding skit, she
pulls out the bazooka.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, she's down the the helicopters, the popap then the
Marika Marika.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I want that as a single. I want I want
like a studio version, yeah, with a LaBamba.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Robert Donney Junior was like the host, so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe maybe we could we should weld. You know, next
time you walk past her house, maybe you know, slip
a little note in her mailbox and say, you know,
maybe you should. You should try for SNL again. Yeah,
you know, do a solo. Don't don't, don't be inviting
any any new friends, just do it on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Your funny is that most of the times that she
posted she wasn't the musical guest which is really funny.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, she wasn't. Nope, and then what.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Then w during Erotica time she was the musical guest,
but she wasn't in any skits.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I don't think Raylor was she in She.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And the h Is that what she did, mister president?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, okay, she was in a few of the Kids.
Oh and that was Roseanne.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Bar right, No, Roseanne bar was in Coffee Talk.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But well here was that ninety That was ninety When
did Prince of Tides come out?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Vanbar rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
She died?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, she died and someone else took her place.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's right, That's right, she really did.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
She's a rap star.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now, No, Prince of Tides came out? What ninety one?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, so like it must have been. And when was
Clinton in office?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So I think he too, Yeah he was. He was
brought in in ninety two.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah. Was that the same yeah episode that she did
Fever and bed Girl.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
M h Okay. She wasn't in a lot of this gift.
She was just in a few, right, Yeah. I think
she did one or two maybe, Yeah. People during Madam Act,
she had a little bit of a you know, she
had had wasn't like a like a comedy set. But
you know, she threw in a couple of zingers.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
When she was getting changed.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
When she was getting changed. I remember watching that like
Opening Night, and she was I thought it was like
I thought she was just stalling. I was like, oh,
maybe this something happened and she's stalling. But then like
I was like waiting, and I'm like, no, she needs
to just keep going with this. I wanted to keep going. Yeah,
more more, more comedy, Madonna, please.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean I think, you know, like even a.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Comedy special, like put a comedy special. You can invite
Sabrina Carpenter. She's funny. Yeah, I mean she could. She
could do you know, if you want to invite a
new friend, bring Sabrina on.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Why not Sabrina. Sabrina wore her dress, you know she did.
She wore about mackiw dress and she looks good in it.
Sabrina is really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
She is a really record. I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I like it. It's like a little bit like if
you threw Amy Whitehouse into an ice cream machine.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Mm hmm yeah, with dippin' dots.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It would come out as to be in a Carpenter.
But a little bit of Duffy. You remember duff Yeah,
duff for Duffy, Duffy Duffy, a little bit of like
do you remember Vanessa Paradise? No?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What was she was? She on Dragon Race?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
She was a Lenny Kravits like I think, okay, in
the nineties, and she did she did Joela Taxi that
that she did that song. It's like a cover with
an old French song. And she did waiting for Waiting
for My Man, which is I think a god to
(23:13):
lose song or not? Who rolling Stone?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Rolling Stones? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, Waiting for My Man is kind of about like
I think it's about like a drug dealer. So she
did like a like a sixties girl group version of
that song, but I think she misinterpreted as not a
misinterpret but she reinterpreted as like waiting for my for
my guy.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No, never heard her. I have to look her up.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
She was great. But it's like that sixties revival sound
that I love, you know, mm hmm. But Sabrina has
a touch of like eighties and nineties in there too,
because she has a couple of songs. It sounds like
the kind of song that you'd be playing in your
I rock cruising down the block.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
In the in the late eighties.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, a free, stylish meats and groove.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know, she keeper as far as I'm concerned, un
and she does.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't think it takes herself too seriously.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
She's she's not an asshole about taking photos, like you
could take a selfie with her. I mean I would
take a selfie with Sabrina Carboner any day. Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I just wonder what the conversation was or how that
happened when she wore that same dress from the from
the Academy Awards.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I wonder that, Yeah, I wonder that. I wonder if
she even knew did she know about the dress? Was
she like, Oh I saw Madonna wore this dress and
it was gorgeous. Is there any way like I could get,
you know, borrow it, because a lot of those award
shows they borrow those gowns, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But Madonna actually wore that same gown for the opening
intro video for Heart Rebel Heart. Yeah, and I remember
her her styl has said they didn't even have to one.
It fit her just as perfectly her back in mention
ninety one, which pretty wild amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's like thirty years later amazing. I remember Sabrina seems
to be kind of like in tune with things of yesteryear.
I suppose because like a Grammy performance, you know, it
was kind of inspired by a goldiehorn you know number.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, yes, I didn't know about the Golden hon number
until they until they mentioned it in an article. Yeah,
I was like, oh wow, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So I think maybe maybe Sabrina was you know, maybe
she knew about it. Maybe she saw the you know,
sooner or later performance and was like blown away, and
you know, she's like, oh my god, that's gorgeous. I
want to wear that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean, is it inn't like Madonna owned that
dress because she was able to wear it in the
Rebel Heart towards Who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean it's a Bob Mackie. Yeah maybe maybe. I mean,
does Cher own all of her bob acky gowns? You know,
I don't know they're all in like a like a
a Mayducker. Yeah or they Yeah, exactly are they? And
like Bob Mackie's archive, you know, maybe or maybe maybe
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maybe it's a Madonna's archive, you know, in her stored
away beautifully on a mannequin with the backdrop of of
of the the awards. You know, that's something that we'll
have to research because I am kind of curious that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I just wonder, like, because there's a lot of costumes,
a lot of a lot of different designers like by
like Goates in this room, or Goate is in this closet,
and you know, do Chinamana outfits over here and this
is over here.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
The tour costumes, they all they all get to keep,
whether or not they just you know, not discard them,
but you know, put them up for auction or whatever
later on. Really yeah, yeah, because I remember it was
one of during one of the Blonde Ambition tour banters
between you know, Donna and Nikki and Madonna. I believe
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Madonna made a comment to Donna like, well, I let
you keep the costumes, you know. I think it was
in regards to Belinda Carlisle because Donnie did back up
for Belinda. And I remember thinking like, oh, they probably
still have all of those costumes. Go in your favor,
like you know, pull them out for old times sake, just.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like walk around and wearing them. I will go to
like Dollar Tree.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, why not? I could see I could see that
going down, you know, just throwing a boost eat go
to Dolatry. I mean that's what I do now anyway,
So don't you don't you put your boost di on
and go to Dollatry.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, I mean you go to a boost if it's raining,
Like as I's put on the vote costume, that's my costume.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And that's your costume for the night, yeah, for the day,
for life, for life.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, also, this is something I never knew or never noticed,
and I don't know why it happened or why I
didn't notice it, but especially because it's twenty twenty five.
In Tutor Dare, Nicki Harris made a reference in nineteen
ninety said, like Madonna Madonna's tour two twenty five like
a Vegin, And she's making a joke about Madonna still
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doing that in twenty twenty five, which she kind.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Of she did.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But Nicki's wearing like her pointed bra from the concert.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
She probably wore it out. I mean, listen, there was
a got a Boostia. I mean, I'd wear the fuck
out of that too.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, but do you think, like, do you think it
was daytime out? So maybe like she just put it
on the next day and said, oh, we're going on
a gondola.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Let's you know, maybe they were coming from rehearsal, you know,
like you know, dress rehearsal, because I'm sure they rehearse
every night before they go on.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They had to cancel a lot of shows in Italy,
so I wonder if like they had a lot of
free time maybe, But it's like, what are you gonna
what are you gonna wear it to the gondola ride? Well,
my bro, I go j Bron. You don't have access
to that kind of stuff that you would just go
and like, oh, what are you gonna wear? I'm like,
I'm gonna wear my like my felt gigantic long boobs
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that I wore in the like a virgin performance with
Madonna on the bed like the two dancers, Like, I'm
just gonna wear that to the club.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I mean the you know, I mean a word you know,
oh like carry in and Naba like what are you wearing?
You know, I'm gonna put on my g string from
the Girly Show like and that's it show up for
Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
So true, It's like that's how the that's how the
world got introduced to carry on and Naba. It's riding
a stripper pole in the beginning of every show from
The Girly Show.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
That's right, that's right, she should do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
She was so beautiful in that concert. She was so gorgeous,
But I find it so hard to see her with hair.
Like everyone in the Girly Show, I don't think ever
needs to grow hair. No, they all had.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They all had short hair, except for you know, Donna
and Nikki.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, well I think did. Madonna asked them like, are
you willing to shave her head? And if they said no,
she would she wouldn't hire them. But there's something along
these lines, right.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think that was for the for Drowned World. I
don't think that was for Girly Show. I think that
was for Drowned World. There was someone where like they
wanted Donna. They wanted Donna to shave her head really yeah,
and she's like no, and like I don't know. There
was like a podcast episode that they were on and
she's like, no, I'm not doing that, and then Nicky
(30:37):
came in was like, no, We're going to braid her
hair and it's gonna look punk rock. And then like
Madonna saw it was like oh I love that. Okay,
I do remember hearing something she had. She had she
had braids for the Drowned World.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Think that was it was.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I was supposed to look like punk rock.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but they were down for like secret right mm hmm.
Like I think she had them tied up up their head. Yeah,
they looked they looked great. But yeah, I'm pretty I'm
pretty sure there was something about like she wasn't gonna
make them shave her head, but she asked them if
they were If she asked them, would they And that
was part of the audition process for the Girly Show.
And I'm almost positive I read that somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But maybe for the dancers. Yeah, oh, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
For the dancers. That's what I mean. Here's for the dancers.
And she she was the only one with the blonde
hair and everyone else had shaved shaved heads or you know.
It was my favorite dancer from that show. I think
her name starts with the you. She was the black
girl that was the main dancer in the what it
Feels Like for a Girl Little Like I Feel Love
video performance. Okay, I don't remember her name. I'm pretty
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sure her name started with the you. She was She
was my favorite in that show, her the and the
one like the like the one with like the double joints,
the girl with the red hair that was also in.
I think she ended up getting married to someone from
Reinvention or something. I love the girly show dancers. I
thought they're really incredible. I mean, obviously we all loved
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the bond Ambition to our d because we got to
see them and the scenes, we got to learn about them,
to get to know them. But there's something really like
raw and moalistic about the ground world wor dancers. They
were like they went in. They did so many different
styles of dancing from like the you know, the Lives
of Anita, like high energy dance to King and Eye
(32:22):
homage for Wogue, and then like the really intense dancing
for Holiday, and then that really brilliant like scenario for
Just for My Love at the end of the show,
which is probably.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
What I'm high fashion.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was very like just it was so beautifully done.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like what I imagine reading like Vogue, like Vogue magazine
in like ninth the nineteen twenties, was like like for
high fashion, that was so whoever thought of that?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And like whatever, like brainstorm that came out of was
just mesmerizing. I would love to be fly on the
wall in the meeting. Oh we're gonna do you know
me and my girl meets you know, this meets that
with like the you know, the harlequin backdrop, and you know,
I always found like I always felt like it was
she was the person who like kind of let people
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be like, you know, you couldn't show your hands back
then then show skin. And there's that moment where everyone
just gets lights in the big seat behind her, and
then they all realized, oh my gosh, she just had
a good time. We just we just experienced pleasure and
you like made us do it, and you like let
us have that freedom. It's now we're going to turn
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on you, you know. And that was right after the
sextbook and how she let everyone down this path of
sexuality and pleasure and then they all chastised her and
her part. So it was like so many layers. And
today's show was sponsored by Cafe Thestello because I just
had a big cup of it. I can't stop talking.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I wish I drank coffee. I'm I'm an imposter. I
don't drink coffee. I don't understand it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I would think I would think you were like a
coffee chugging like Italian boy from from upstate.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Nope, nope, don't drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Like I would. I would. I would have thought that you, like,
smell a cup of coffee and tell me what Andrea
came from. Yeah, like that's the kind of like when
I first met you, I would have like if somebody
brought up with coffee. But like I was, teevy knows
all about coffee.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I wish, I wish, I wish I liked it. Maybe
one you just tried it and you don't like it.
My parents, like my mother and my grandmother used to
force it on me like well, they didn't like force
me to drink it like every day, but.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Hold your nose and make you swallow it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I remember being like two years old, Yeah, two years old,
Here you should try this. I took a sip and
it was disgusting.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't think you're palid at two years old.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Definitely two years old. And then I was like, here,
try this. It has milk in it, and I'm like,
that's disgusting. It was so gross.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I didn't really like coffee. As a kid, I didn't
like the taste of it. But then later, like high
school years is when I used to drink it and
I used to go, oh, I get it now. No,
I just can't, but I did. I did always like
coffee ice cream.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Coffee ice cream is different. I could. I could tolerate
coffee ice cream. I could tolerate like coffee in something
like if it's like like certain Yeah, like if there's
like coffee it, Yeah, coffee cake exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Called coffee cake because you eat it with coffee.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But yeah that in tuna fish can't. I can't do
tuna fish either. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm weird.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I love fish, you know what I do? You know
what I don't like? Though, I don't like smoked things
like smoked gouda and smoked salmon or smoked like white love.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I love smoked guda, I love.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I want yudha, I love cheese. I want gouda. But
there's something about the smoked flavor kind of makes me
gag a little.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And I hate when people say goutauta, gouta. I'm like,
what like gouta? Smoked gouda?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
No. I wonder if Madonna likes cheese.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Oh, I'm sure she does, but I feel like, you know,
she probably doesn't eat it very much.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's sort of vegetarian iss, right, she's sort of veganish
in a.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Way, like macrobiotic.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, she's probably been everything. Her body on the inside
must be so pristine from all like like all the
treatment she's had and all the like just doctors and
nutritionists and stuff, like, the inside of her body must
be like audiable.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
She said, minimal minimal repair. Right, she had a you know,
the horse accident. Didn't she have the horse accident? She
broke what she broke her arm and right, yeah, and
then but that that settled fine, and then you know,
the hip and the knee, Yeah, she had that done.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I'm not sure how much of the hip it's fully
like replaced. I haven't feeling that it was made out
to be a lot worse than it was. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I mean, she she's she's a dancer, so she put
herself through how I mean, dancers put their bodies through,
how like doing all the crazy things that they do. So,
I mean, whatever it happens, and listen, you got a
bionic knee or a bionic hip, good for you. Yeah,
titanium last forever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
But I think that as a dancer and as a
person who moves the way she does and who like
has used so many different styles of dance in her performances,
I think that her not being able to dance like
she used to is probably the most frustrating thing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Ever. Well, I'm kind of curious to see if and
when we do and we get another tour or another
set of performances, whatever we happen to get, if she'll
try to dance more, because they probably had to tone
it down what it was supposed to be, Yeah, because
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you know, she was hospitalized and everything else, and they
probably like, no, don't overdo it. You know, you're not
going to be doing flips on stage this time. So
I mean, but then again, you know when Rebel Heart tour,
you know, it was kind of slowly winding down from
you know, prior tours where she was flipping around on
the stage. But Madame Max she did, she did a
(38:59):
couple lunch and you know, threw herself around a bit.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So I mean, she loves she loves to be on
the floor.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That I mean, she was, she was rolling around on
the floor from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, that's how she started her career.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean burning up and burning up. She was rolling
around like a virgin. She was rolling around, Yeah, which
just celebrated freaking forty years, which is crazy forty years.
And to think that we don't have a forty year
anniversary release. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
See, I don't even think of those as much. I
know I never used to, but now I'm starting to.
And I'm like, why aren't they like appolizing on things
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Listen, take my money, take my money, give me, give
me that physical you know, like a Virgin fortieth anniversary CD,
give me a you know, dobe utmost Blu ray something something.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I just all I want from them is to like
re release things so that the younger generation like as
access to them, Like it'll show up on on playlists,
It'll show up on like Spotify playlists and all that.
Like I don't need to buy another version of the album.
And I know there's a lot of collectives out there.
That's fine, like I envy collectors, but like, I just
(40:24):
want acknowledgment of these anniversaries so that the younger generation goes, oh,
this is a Madonna song that you know from forty
years ago, and it still sounds amazing or well, it's also.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
A very iconic album, you know, very important. It's important
to me, you know, I'm pretty sure it's do you
find do you feel that like the like a virgin
album as a whole as important to you.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's not as important as other albums are. Okay, it's
important to me that it that it cemented her Like
usually sophomore albums are not as successful, and this was
like one hundred times more successful than her first album.
So I appreciate it in her canon, like as like
the album that's sealed the deal. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Well, I think what had happened was they had recorded
it while the first album was still on the charts
and still doing well, and they were, you know, I
think she was trying to get her and Nile were
trying to get it out soon, but they couldn't because
(41:29):
Borderline was doing so well.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, and because she The thing that that that I
don't fully love about the album is that most of
the hits on the album were like handed to her. Okay,
like the first album was all basically her Okay, shut
some shut you know. Reggie Lucas helped out and probably
(41:53):
wrote a lot of the riffs and all that. But
but I feel like the first album was like but
Donna Essence and Like A Virgin had some help, you know,
because she was becoming a big star, so like, hey,
let's get the big you know, music songwriting machine people
to come in and and give her these amazing songs
that became hits.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
You know, did did didn't she seek out Nile? Was that?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Did? You? Definitely did? Because he was from Chic, you know,
so it.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Was from Chic and he did. He did Bowie's album,
He did Diana Ross's album. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Production wise, Like, I'm cool with whoever she uses, Like
I get that she likes to vive with somebody different,
but like she didn't write as many of the songs
on Like A Version that she did other albums.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I feel like I can tell you right now, Like
a Virgin was probably the most played record my high
school years from her, Like you played that? I played, Yes,
even more than Like Music or American Life. Yeah, and
those came out when I was in high school. Oh interesting,
(42:57):
So I just I always grab vitated to this album.
I don't know why, it's just I just I love
the tracks. I love you know, the kind of tongue
in cheek of a lot of the track, like like
material girl and like a virgin, you know, dress you
up wonderful.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I'm definitely I dressed you up, and I think
like a virgin of material girl, just like war out
there welcome for me maybe.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Okay, Yeah, I mean they're a little they're a little cheesy.
I suppose I.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Think they're just like just like it. They stained her
as like the material girl and like a virgin singer,
like a virgin. The coolest part about like a version
is how she's done it tremendously different in every minutes.
Worship that about her.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
What's your favorite like a virgin performance?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh, that's a tough one because happened at different points
in her I mean the the Blonde Amission tour is definitely.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Okay, right, I mean that was whoever came up with that,
Like I kind of I kind of like the Confessions
tour and that was really fun. She sang it beautifully
and I liked I liked the arrangement on it, you know.
I mean she didn't, you know, do much dance wise, but.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But every time she jumped on that freaking horse, I
would my heart would draw like you just fell off
of one and you're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
That was so with the broken bones in the background
on the screen.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Your X rays. Yeah, I actually really really really love
the m DNA version with that coursetting scene and are
getting just oh my god. Oh and I'll never forget
there's a really famous burlesque girl name is name is
(44:56):
just gaving me right now. Dea Anti's right. She made
mention of that. She's like, I just came back into
one of her posts. She's like, I came back from
seeing Madonna. Blah blah blah. The show is beautiful. There's
a really beautiful coursetting scene and as the centerpiece of
the show, and it was marvelous and like the way
she described it, I was like, that's exactly what well
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either like hearing it from her, like praiseed from Ditavantisa
was like, good, someone who knows their ship is appreciating
what she just did, you know, hmm. Every night of
the show, getting like.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh oh definitely, But like you said, she does it
different every time. Yeah, I mean even even celebration, the
celebration tour. You know they you know, she didn't you know,
she didn't perform it, you know herself. It was, you know,
part of an interlude.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
But right, if I could have teleported out of the
arena and went and had a cheeseburger for five minutes,
that would have been during the Celebration tour when I would.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Have done it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, I hated that moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's kind of like a fever dream, right. No, it's
like it's a bad trip.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You can't get rid of the only way to get
rid of a bad trip is just to wait it out.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
You're scarred from it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I hate that moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I mean, for that shows.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
That show would have been perfect if it did have that.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Like for five seconds, I would have like, okay, fine whatever,
you know, like the whole Billy Jean thing because she
did that during the Virgin tour fun throwback, but maybe
not the whole the whole song, not the whole mash up.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
But I think I didn't hate the mash up. I
didn't hate that part of it. I hated the like
behind the screen shadow, I don't know. I also Michael
Jackson was was a cut to.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Her kind of was I mean? And in the in
the end, you know, in those leaked audio clips, you
know that he was had leaked, you know where he's like, oh,
blah blah blah. You know, she's she's not nice and
you know, she's jealous of me. And I mean I
think that at one time they were friendly and then
(47:13):
I think he, uh after after they she brought him
it was I think for in the closet and he
didn't like it. Yeah, he was too vulgar, too sexual.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Meanwhile he's like grabbing a crutch and I don't know,
it's crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, well whatever, at least at least and you know,
it's interesting. So I didn't realize this at first, and
I was actually chatting with Carlos, you know, Carlos Acosta,
and I was like, you know, I wish that she
sang like a virgin on it, you know, and he's like, well, no,
that is her. I was like it is and he's like,
that's the demo. I'm like, you know, you're right, that's
(47:50):
the demo version that they're playing before they sped it
up or yeah yeah, And I was like, you're right.
And then recently it surfaced on Instagram. U Nile Rogers
was on the RuPaul podcast and he was saying, how oh, yeah,
you know, you know, Madonna couldn't hit those notes, so
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you know, we we had we slowed down the tempo
how her sing it, and then sped it up, and
I'm like, huh, good job.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh see, I didn't know that. I thought they like,
I thought that they it shoed up to be more
like ironic and like whiny.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
That's that's what I mean. Maybe that was their ultimate goal.
But he did he did say whiny.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But I thought it would like to be more like minimuci,
you know, like like like I kept very like it
like instid.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Of young, like more young, like more youthful.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Or just like like like silly, like it was more
like tongue in cheek. It was like the way it
was on the on the tour that was the original vocals,
and it sounded a little less sound a little more serious,
you know. Hmmm it was so I don't know. I
didn't know because you couldn't have the notes since she's
sang it and she hit the note, so like.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Well, I think that's that's that's what Nile said. Correct
me if I'm wrong, somebody can message me and say, no.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
This isn't exactly what he said.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I think it was, he said, it was the what's
that guy? Luther Vandros? Uh, the Luther Vandros. I guess
that's like what they used to do with Luther was
they'd slow it down and then speed it up and
it would be pitched. But I think a lot a
lot of the tracks on like a Virgin have a
lot of you know, innocent and sweet and tongue in cheek. Yeah,
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it was.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
It was very much a high school girl album.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Exactly why I listened to it in high school because I.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Very much like write your name on the guys and
write the guy's name on your notebook kind of like
you know, like like there's an innocence, but there's also
like a like none of the songs are really like
well like stay and Pretender kind of like yeah, he's
a pretender like kind of like like jock and cheerleader kind.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Of mm hmm, yeah, I could. That's probably why I
gravitated to it, because that was very much man could
write the guy's name that I like on my notebook
b F F Forever.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And then like for True Blue, she kind of went
back into like even deeper into like it will you
be My Valentine feeling. You know. It's probably why people
like young girls loved her so much because she was
a little edgy, but then she was also like naives
and like her songs had like an optimism, and then
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like when her songs are about somebody who had heard her,
it was like, well, you hurt me, you know, like
you you left me in the dust, like you left
me to you know. And later on it got more dramatic,
but in the beginning it was very like you were
my crush and you blew it.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
You know, what do you think of angel?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I love Angels. It's something about like the production of
it that always sat weird with me, Like I can
never figure out the beat.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Like the accompaniment, like like that that intro to it.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, it just it always like seemed like you were
you were listening to the song in the middle of
the song when it was playing from the beginning. Yeah,
something about the production on like a virgin didn't quite
do it for me. I think that's what it might be, like.
I love this the vocals, I you know, I love
Love don't live here Anymore. I didn't even know that
was a cover until later.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
One of my favorite ballads, but my all time.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Ultimately, my favorite song on that album, I think is
Shooby Doo.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
We love I love Shooby Do too. And I feel
like a lot of people either don't know it or
they don't remember it's memorable for them. They picked them
Shooby Doo, they won people pick on it, people pick
them a lot of things because they're haters.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But they you know, it's kind of like love makes
the world go around.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Like just for shoe we do. Yeah, maybe you know what,
maybe we'll have to we'll have to play that, you know. Yeah,
well yeah, because we all have a special guest coming up.
We sure do.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
We've already been recording for seven hours, but uh, let's
edit edit it down to us three and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I mean, why not.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
One of one of one of me and Stevie shared
superpowers is the ability to go on tangents and somehow
find our way back to the original tangent and get
back on the road.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
We always, we always find our way back home. Yeah,
that's a Hannah Montana song.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh jeez, so you are you?
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Hannamatana? Generation?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Is that you? No? I it's too young. It's it's
a little too young for me. But I definitely jumped
on the bandwagon. I'm not gonna lie. Oh yeah, I
liked I Carly Okay, So when it came to like
Hannah and Mile, I didn't watch the show until later,
(52:55):
like when it was like after I want to say,
like like edit, like peak popularity. I started watching it,
but initially my first introduction was Miley's See You Again,
and I was like, oh, I love this, and I
was like, I didn't know that, like her songs were
like this, like because I didn't pay much mind. And
(53:19):
then I went back and I heard some Hannah stuff
and I'm like, this is cheesy and I love it,
and I started listening to more Hannah than Miley.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
I watched the tour with three D glasses. When I
was on the Disney Channel too, I was there, anyway,
are we taking a break?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, we'll play. I was wondering what song was should
play from? Like a virgin? Should we do? Should we do?
Or should we do something a little more uplifting? Like
over and over.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Over and over? Because we just we keep going over
and over.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I think it's one of Madonna's Maybe it's a companion
to Holiday, but it's one of the first of her,
like you're a superstar, don't waste any time, like get
your ship and get her done, like it's one of her.
She always has a song that's about like don't waste time,
like hurry up, time goes by so slowly, like it's
(54:14):
her first time song?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Is it her first time song? Wasn't there?
Speaker 2 (54:19):
So this song about like a song about not hesitating
and like going for your dreams, Okay, because there was
nothing on the first album that had that theme, right,
I don't think so. The first album was much about
love and our break and sexual gin and all.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
That, and it was a little bit more raw than this. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I think Over and Over was her first of like
you know, the beat goes on over and over spotlight,
you know what I'm saying, Like songs about like like
getting following your dreams and you're a superstar. But when
we come back, we're gonna have a little chat with
our very special guest, Michelle Ruiz, who's one of my
(55:04):
cohorts from Madonna Worship Night. People call us the the
godmother and godfather of the Madonna fan community. It is
really funny. But so we're gonna listen to over and
Over and then when we come back, we're gonna we're
gonna chat with one only Michelle Luise.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Can.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
I just can't say I gotta do it. No, I
can't really say. No, I'm not afraid again A get up, Johnny.
If I don't do it, I won't get anymore. You
try to grid usize my job. If I lose actual real.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Up?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Is how you like in the again?
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Begin I know I gotta be can Oh I know
I getta again? Oh I know got.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
The last my Christmas stake A only game is not
ch as. I can't take me never done a seeing
me standing still.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
I never don't stunt you. I get my fool.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
It doesn't mad. It's want you two that takes you far.
And first you jumps see Summon. I got to shore
beget him again.
Speaker 5 (56:33):
Oh I know how you get him again? Oh no,
no you get him again? Oh no, you gotta again.
Oh I know.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
I'm not afraid to say for you to burph. Oh
and I'll go out in the street.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
And and I was
Speaker 5 (56:54):
Shutting again from my mind
Hello, Hello, Hello, Stevie, Hey Chauncey. How's it going pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I feel like it's been like months since our last episode,
but it hasn't been.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And it really hasn't been. It's been a couple couple
of weeks, but.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think it's had been such an action packed set
of days and hours since since the middle of January.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
When we were when we last recorded. Yeah, so I
purposely haven't asked you about this, like outside of outside
of recording because I wanted to get like the full
tea while we recorded. But how is the Glamour Awards?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh? Oh, okay? For those who don't know, the glam
Awards are the New York City like Queer night Life Awards,
you know, featuring like drag queens and parties and DJs
and all that kind of stuff. And the first year
that Madonna Worship was nominated for Best night Life Event, which.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Was really cool, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Madonna Worship night up on the up on the screens
when they announced it. You know, the Glamor Awards are
very interesting because it's one of the few nights that
everyone in night life can pretty much be in the
same room and hang out rather than work. So it's
always a fun, fun thing for that. This was the
first year, well last year, it fell on one of
Madonna's concerts, so I popped in for like a half
(01:38):
an hour, then we scooed it out of there. I
was nominated for Best Bar DJ as well and polished
the Queen a Competition, a drag competition that I helped run.
Was also nominated for Best Competition. But the domination I
was really excited about was for Madonna Worship, and the
rest of the nominees on that list were like this huge,
(01:58):
like amazing event. It's like one actually one. It's called
stand up and why ny see that? I also have
a DJ at it's a full fundraiser. The first time
they did it, they sold out three dollars bill and
had like eighty performances. It was insane. So I guess
I was nominated kind of four times or I was
(02:20):
a part of a couple other things. I don't know
if that didn't even win, but that should have won,
but uh, I didn't expect to win. I just it's
I know it sounds cliched when people say it's it's
an honor to be nominated, it really is, because they
do nominate a lot of people, Like it's not like
three people, like it's not like five artists like in
the Grammys. It's like nine different things. But it was
(02:42):
it was really cool to just, you know, I'm I'm
I'm closing in on you know, a half a century
and I've been in the business for a little over
twenty two years, so it's kind of cool to still
be a contender.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You know. That's awesome. And I saw some fokse. It
looked like a great time. It looked like that had
great perform.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
People really put out, like put on some really amazing
looks and they really turn it out for that event,
and uh, it's really fun. It was just it's a
little sardine canish though. They kind of put everyone in
this room and you can't really move once you sit down.
That's really my only complaint about the event. It's like
they don't leave a hair of space between you and
(03:26):
the table next to you, so everyone's constantly bumping into
each other. Looks like molecules.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
And it's more of like like a sit down type
of thing, like you sit down, you're at a table.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like the you know, the Grammys. It's like these round
tables and there's like a bunch of room in between
each table. This is like sardine can, Like you're you're
sitting right next to.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They should just get cafeteria tables.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, your back is to the person behind his back
and you can barely move. And if you're not a
petite flower, which I'm not. I got a little shoe,
but I got a little cluster a few times and
I had to like get up and leave and go
out and have a cigarette. Right it went out and
like we just went to the bar. But you're just
kind of stuck there, you know, hm hmm. And then
(04:11):
when you lose and you're stuck there, it's even more
like you're like I can't like if I get up
and I run away right now, everyone's gonna know that's
the reason, even though that's what I wanted to do,
you know, well, because I've been nominated for DJ. It's
my eleventh year being nominated, and it's just like it's
never gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
But it's just the Susan, the Susan Lucci.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Huh, I know, I seriously am yeah, And but she
eventually won, right and she eventually.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I don't think so I don't think so maybe she did.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think she eventually won, so maybe. But you know
what's really funny I told a couple of years ago,
I said, hey, everybody vote for me to win Best DJ,
because if I win, I'll retire. M and I still
haven't won, So maybe the university just saying, don't retire.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
You know you're not You're ever gonna retire. You can't.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I have to retire at some point, my hand what
if my hands fall off?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
AI? Listen, you could you could speak into a mic
and DJ this song after this? Yeah, just like you
know Alexis play a play like a Virgin by Madonna.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Mine would be my voice person.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Would be Penelope, Penelope you name of Penelope Pelope?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Can you can you follow this song with the Tracy
Young remix of Crave Please Thank You.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I wouldn't be surprised if that's where that's where DJing
goes eventually.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You're just like you're like calling in the next song.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
That would be really funny, Like you type it into
chat GPT, create a forty minute set of the following
songs and poop it's done.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I mean, if I didn't have arms, I would
have to I would have to speak it, and you
speak to text. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You know, put an electrode on your forehead or something
so you could use your brain waves.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, and it'll know what I'm thinking. It'll be like, oh,
Chauncy wants to pay this song, so we're gonna pay
this next and we're gonna mix it in cour it's
the halfpoint. We're gonna wait till the bridge at least concludes,
and then as the next chorus is happening, we're going
to bring in the next song slowly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
But make sure you like me, I would be like,
but make sure you use the rip from the Japanese
CD that was released in nineteen oh shit, because it
had better master.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's one thing about you, Stevie, And I don't know
if anybody knows Stevie is the master of like the
like the media part of the music, like how many
different like releases and like when it was released. You know,
you're like the rain Man.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Of the rain Man of a physical media. And I
feel there's there's definitely more like people out there that
have bigger, you know, and like larger collections of a
physical media than I do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I know, but I think you, I think you're
discounting yourself and your skills and your superpowers. Stevee even knows,
Like Stevie can listen to a song and he can
tell you what bit rate it is. Sometimes that was
like that was a YouTube rip for sure, I could tell.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I hate that. I hate it. I hate it so much.
And then anybody who's ever been out with me at
a bar and I know the DJ is playing like
a YouTube or a queen is performing a YouTube rip
or like or just like a really really local like
it's I hear it and bothers me. It affects the tip, Yeah,
it does it really it makes a go limp.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's like it's going to give you a five dollar tip,
but because you ripped it from YouTube, you're only getting
a dollar twenty five minutes and the quarter will be
thrown the person's ear.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Listen, you may not even get a quarter. Maybe it
maybe like a penny's saka JOEA. You know that's a dollar.
It is, but it's annoying. It's a dollar, but it's annoying.
Heavy it is though. I I was guilty once of
only giving a queen a dollar tip because they were
doing a kylie song but they didn't know the words.
(08:23):
I was like, no, you ain't getting two dollars, you
getting a dollar? Oh come on, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I was like, yeah, I'll forgive like a crappy look
quicker than i'll forgive not knowing the lyrics.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
But you know, that's that's I've been accused of being
a bitch for being like, oh, she don't know the words?
Why why did you pick to do this song?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
If you work hard for your money, it shouldn't just
be thrown at a drag queen because they're a drag queen.
They need to, you know, provide you with proper entertainment.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well that's one thing that it always kind of boggled
my mind. It's one thing if you're doing like a
drag suicide, you know where people were just like shouting
requests here, you know, twenty dollars and do you know
wicked or whatever? You know, if you're picking the song
to do, shouldn't you know the words?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And you have mean a look to go with it?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
And I mean not even you know, I don't know.
You don't have to have like a you know, a
replica look of whoever you're singing, you know you're lip sinking.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
But if it's on your set list.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean yeah, I mean at least kind of have
a cohesive plan and know the words, you know, maybe
pull them up on your phone before you perform it,
or hold your phone up so you could read the
words while your lip syncing. I don't know, just saying,
and then maybe I'll give you a two dollars tip,
(09:48):
because two dollars goes a long way. Now, that's right,
that's like a third of a flout from the food truck.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
My my manager at Stonewall, like it's all giddy when
he knows clapses are on the way. Yeah, they're really yummy, though,
a great.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Where do you get them from? Is there is there
a specific Well.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
They're a taco truck right by the Chase Bank where
we oh yeah all the time, our special corner.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, that that's where that that's where we we you know,
conceived our child.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, and uh, like a week or so ago. It
was during the day, a little earlier in the evening,
and Stevie was downtown. I was on my way to
work and he was about to text me where I was,
and I.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Was actually just walking right towards them to the corner
where we conceived the podcasts.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So it was really fun It was really funny right here.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, and then we went to the bank, went to
the bank, that's right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
The day that we conceived this this podcast. Stevie was
on You're on your way to see depeche Mode, right,
mm hmm, And I was on my way to see
jesse Ware, right.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
That's right. Yeah, it was really funny. And it was
funny because I almost bought tickets to jesse Ware and
I was like, oh, we'll see, we'll see, and you know,
I just never bought them. It's a good thing I
didn't because I probably would have bought it for the
night that you were going. And that's when a friend
of my friend, John had bought me tickets for depeche
Mode for my birthday, but obviously my birthday was like
(11:27):
six months prior. So he's like, oh, I got your
tickets for depeche Mode. I'm like, yeah, that's great, and
like I was like, okay, awesome. You know, I didn't
I didn't realize the dates. The dates would have clashed,
but that's okay.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
They only you know, like guess the only who does
want one show or two shows next time?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Next time, I'll go, Yeah. I like Jesse, She's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Cute, she puts on a great show. I would like
to see her with a bigger budget to see what
she would do. I love I love what I've seen
her twice and I love what she does. But I
would love to see, like what she would do in
like a little bit of a bigger venue.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
With like Hammerstein Ballroom, I.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Don't know, just just something where there's a little more technology,
because she kind of she has great, fun, campy choreography
and like she sounds beautiful and the lighting, but it's
it's it's simple, you know, m m okay, I would
like to see what she does with with a little more.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A little couple of screens, a couple.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Uh or like a set or something, you know, like
a couple of couple dancers. She has dancers, Okay, Yeah,
it's it's very like I mean, I don't know what
they were like back in the eighties because I missed them.
But Eraser puts out, I've been doing a lot of
anytime they've done a show in the past twenty years
in New York, it's either at Herbing plaza or a
(12:46):
smaller venue where it's basically just Andy Bell being Andy Bell,
running and dancing and splitting around the stage like a
fair like the faery that he is. But I did
see the Cowboy tour and like I think ninety five,
and that was like a full set in like a band,
and you know, nice, they've had.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
To scale down because they don't they don't really sell out.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Venues anymore in America at least. Yeah, I must Razor.
I wish the RAS was coming out something new.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I'm hoping that they that they tour. I'd love I'd
love to see Andy Bell.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, and he's great. And the show called something about
the Bareback something whatever. It was this weird one man
show that he did only in London or whatever. I'm
so mad that he never brought it here. It sounded
really like interesting and sort of controversial, a little taboo.
We haven't really talked about Madonna.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Much, you know, we really didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
We It's okay, but we had we had the tangent masters,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We I suppose we should talk about why we're actually here.
You know, Madonna, she's she's she's hanging out. You know,
she's nothing too too big happening. She she did that
that little pop up at what was it the comedy club,
(14:08):
Comedy Seller? Comedy Yeah, with Like.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Can you imagine being at the Comedy Seller and all
of a sudden Madonna gets on stage.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I mean I wonder what people's initial reaction, like, wait,
is that Madonna she getting on stage? Or Amy? My
phone auto corrected to Amy Shoemaker. But Amy Schumer, you
like to change people's names, like you called h Well,
then do you know why I call her Toshiba because
(14:40):
my phone auto corrected Tokisha to Toshiba. I I've only
recently started to know her name, like, like I could
never say her name, but now I think I have it.
It's Tokisha. Yeah, and my phone always just auto corrected
to Toshiba. So I called her Toshiba to be Yeah,
(15:02):
high five video video. That's really funny, I tell you,
just called it. She would to be funny, just to
be funny. Yeah, I mean sure, I mean maybe she should.
Maybe she should like market that, you know, considered, it's
already trademarked by somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And it's already like in the correct world it is.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And absolutely is. But yeah, so she she performed there.
I mean Amy Amy was given her rave reviews.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Well, like she did a while back, right like before
before the Rebel Heart Work, Amy Schumer opened.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Up for the Rebel Heart Work. Yeah, and then she
could pop up then to right she I believe so.
And she also did like you know, prior to Tiers
of a Clown she did, or maybe it was even
after Tears of a Clown where she was she was
kind of doing what was it, Jimmy Jimmy fallon, Yeah,
Allen did like she did a shorts there, right, Yeah,
(16:01):
just you know, just a couple of little little liners.
You know, they're not one liners, but they're liners.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I think I think she's great.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
She's a great comedian. I enjoy her comedy because I
think I do see the humor and in her you know,
when she's when she's doing it. But I feel like
comedy is one of those things where like people have
very distinctive tastes in comedy. Yeah, and like I feel
like I have a different taste in comedy than most people.
(16:32):
So that's why I think I get Madonna's comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, I mean, you're kind of along, You're similar to
my my taste exactly British comedy, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I like British comedy. I wouldn't say I love it,
but I like it. I can appreciate it. I find
a lot of it funny.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That's where you and I probably veer off. But most
of our sense of humor, like, we get each other.
We laughed at each other's jokes, so I think, like
the twisted, sadistic sense of humor. We both have that
in common, definitely, But like British humor has this like
dryness to it that I did. I think that I
find really funny and I don't. I don't like I
definitely don't like the easy joke like I don't like
(17:08):
like I like slapstick, but I don't want someone like.
I don't know how to describe what I don't like,
but I know what I like.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You know, I like like slapstick can be funny at
times at times, but what if it like if it's
too much, then I'm like, eh, this is stupid. You know, just.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You watch did you watch Benny Hill as a kid? No,
I guess that's a general I had older brothers, so
maybe that was a generational thing. He was a little slapsticky,
but it was also like abviance and sexual like innuendo
kind of thing like I'm.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Fine with like situational comedies like sitcoms. Not all of them, though,
only certain ones like Golden Girls. Give me Golden Girls
and I could laugh hysterically all day.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh my god, that's like probably one of the best
shows ever.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I mean I still laugh at it. I think it
was last Christmas. I took an edible and I put
Golden Girls on, and I was hysterical. I was like
screaming in bed. It just like I took an edible.
It was Christmas. I think it was Christmas Day and
(18:22):
I took an edible and I laid in bed and
I put on Golden Girls and I laughed my ass
off quite literally. So I mean, I like the perfect show.
It really is. It is. I want I would love
more Madonna comedy. You know, maybe she could do another
(18:43):
you know, comedy set within like a tour or something.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh. She also she like when she did in her
early Dave, which we're getting to, she did that.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
When she did second Live, she was incredible, hilarious.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think the last time said it live, she kind
of like it was not good at all. Members she
had like the bump it in her hair, and.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That was that was the time. I mean, everybody had
a bump it I have.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
That's the way she looked at like kind of bombed.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
With the Well maybe it was her partner, you know,
that didn't help.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But I loved her sense of humor. I love her
like I love her laugh. I love when she makes
her happy and so.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But I mean when she did when she did Saturday
Live in eighty six with with the wedding skit, she
pulls out the bazooka.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, she's down the the helicopters, the popap then the
Marika Marika.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I want that as a single. I want I want
like a studio version, yeah, with a LaBamba.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Robert Donney Junior was like the host, so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Maybe maybe we could we should weld. You know, next
time you walk past her house, maybe you know, slip
a little note in her mailbox and say, you know,
maybe you should. You should try for SNL again. Yeah,
you know, do a solo. Don't don't, don't be inviting
any any new friends, just do it on.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Your funny is that most of the times that she
posted she wasn't the musical guest which is really funny.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, she wasn't. Nope, and then what.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Then w during Erotica time she was the musical guest,
but she wasn't in any skits.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I don't think Raylor was she in She.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
And the h Is that what she did, mister president?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, okay, she was in a few of the Kids.
Oh and that was Roseanne.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Bar right, No, Roseanne bar was in Coffee Talk.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
But well here was that ninety That was ninety When
did Prince of Tides come out?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Vanbar rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
She died?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, she died and someone else took her place.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's right, That's right, she really did.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
She's a rap star.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Now, No, Prince of Tides came out? What ninety one?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, so like it must have been. And when was
Clinton in office?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
So I think he too, Yeah he was. He was
brought in in ninety two.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah. Was that the same yeah episode that she did
Fever and bed Girl.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
M h Okay. She wasn't in a lot of this gift.
She was just in a few, right, Yeah. I think
she did one or two maybe, Yeah. People during Madam Act,
she had a little bit of a you know, she
had had wasn't like a like a comedy set. But
you know, she threw in a couple of zingers.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
When she was getting changed.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
When she was getting changed. I remember watching that like
Opening Night, and she was I thought it was like
I thought she was just stalling. I was like, oh,
maybe this something happened and she's stalling. But then like
I was like waiting, and I'm like, no, she needs
to just keep going with this. I wanted to keep going. Yeah,
more more, more comedy, Madonna, please.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean I think, you know, like even a.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Comedy special, like put a comedy special. You can invite
Sabrina Carpenter. She's funny. Yeah, I mean she could. She
could do you know, if you want to invite a
new friend, bring Sabrina on.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Why not Sabrina. Sabrina wore her dress, you know she did.
She wore about mackiw dress and she looks good in it.
Sabrina is really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
She is a really record. I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I like it. It's like a little bit like if
you threw Amy Whitehouse into an ice cream machine.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Mm hmm yeah, with dippin' dots.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It would come out as to be in a Carpenter.
But a little bit of Duffy. You remember duff Yeah,
duff for Duffy, Duffy Duffy, a little bit of like
do you remember Vanessa Paradise? No?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What was she was? She on Dragon Race?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
She was a Lenny Kravits like I think, okay, in
the nineties, and she did she did Joela Taxi that
that she did that song. It's like a cover with
an old French song. And she did waiting for Waiting
for My Man, which is I think a god to
(23:13):
lose song or not? Who rolling Stone?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Rolling Stones? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Okay, Waiting for My Man is kind of about like
I think it's about like a drug dealer. So she
did like a like a sixties girl group version of
that song, but I think she misinterpreted as not a
misinterpret but she reinterpreted as like waiting for my for
my guy.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No, never heard her. I have to look her up.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
She was great. But it's like that sixties revival sound
that I love, you know, mm hmm. But Sabrina has
a touch of like eighties and nineties in there too,
because she has a couple of songs. It sounds like
the kind of song that you'd be playing in your
I rock cruising down the block.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
In the in the late eighties.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, a free, stylish meats and groove.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
You know, she keeper as far as I'm concerned, un
and she does.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I don't think it takes herself too seriously.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
She's she's not an asshole about taking photos, like you
could take a selfie with her. I mean I would
take a selfie with Sabrina Carboner any day. Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I just wonder what the conversation was or how that
happened when she wore that same dress from the from
the Academy Awards.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I wonder that, Yeah, I wonder that. I wonder if
she even knew did she know about the dress? Was
she like, Oh I saw Madonna wore this dress and
it was gorgeous. Is there any way like I could get,
you know, borrow it, because a lot of those award
shows they borrow those gowns, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
But Madonna actually wore that same gown for the opening
intro video for Heart Rebel Heart. Yeah, and I remember
her her styl has said they didn't even have to one.
It fit her just as perfectly her back in mention
ninety one, which pretty wild amazing.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It's like thirty years later amazing. I remember Sabrina seems
to be kind of like in tune with things of yesteryear.
I suppose because like a Grammy performance, you know, it
was kind of inspired by a goldiehorn you know number.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, yes, I didn't know about the Golden hon number
until they until they mentioned it in an article. Yeah,
I was like, oh wow, I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So I think maybe maybe Sabrina was you know, maybe
she knew about it. Maybe she saw the you know,
sooner or later performance and was like blown away, and
you know, she's like, oh my god, that's gorgeous. I
want to wear that.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, I mean, is it inn't like Madonna owned that
dress because she was able to wear it in the
Rebel Heart towards Who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean it's a Bob Mackie. Yeah maybe maybe. I mean,
does Cher own all of her bob acky gowns? You know,
I don't know they're all in like a like a
a Mayducker. Yeah or they Yeah, exactly are they? And
like Bob Mackie's archive, you know, maybe or maybe maybe
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maybe it's a Madonna's archive, you know, in her stored
away beautifully on a mannequin with the backdrop of of
of the the awards. You know, that's something that we'll
have to research because I am kind of curious that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I just wonder, like, because there's a lot of costumes,
a lot of a lot of different designers like by
like Goates in this room, or Goate is in this closet,
and you know, do Chinamana outfits over here and this
is over here.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
The tour costumes, they all they all get to keep,
whether or not they just you know, not discard them,
but you know, put them up for auction or whatever
later on. Really yeah, yeah, because I remember it was
one of during one of the Blonde Ambition tour banters
between you know, Donna and Nikki and Madonna. I believe
(27:02):
Madonna made a comment to Donna like, well, I let
you keep the costumes, you know. I think it was
in regards to Belinda Carlisle because Donnie did back up
for Belinda. And I remember thinking like, oh, they probably
still have all of those costumes. Go in your favor,
like you know, pull them out for old times sake, just.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Like walk around and wearing them. I will go to
like Dollar Tree.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, why not? I could see I could see that
going down, you know, just throwing a boost eat go
to Dolatry. I mean that's what I do now anyway,
So don't you don't you put your boost di on
and go to Dollatry.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, I mean you go to a boost if it's raining,
Like as I's put on the vote costume, that's my costume.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And that's your costume for the night, yeah, for the day,
for life, for life.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, also, this is something I never knew or never noticed,
and I don't know why it happened or why I
didn't notice it, but especially because it's twenty twenty five.
In Tutor Dare, Nicki Harris made a reference in nineteen
ninety said, like Madonna Madonna's tour two twenty five like
a Vegin, And she's making a joke about Madonna still
(28:14):
doing that in twenty twenty five, which she kind.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Of she did.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
But Nicki's wearing like her pointed bra from the concert.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
She probably wore it out. I mean, listen, there was
a got a Boostia. I mean, I'd wear the fuck
out of that too.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, but do you think, like, do you think it
was daytime out? So maybe like she just put it
on the next day and said, oh, we're going on
a gondola.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Let's you know, maybe they were coming from rehearsal, you know,
like you know, dress rehearsal, because I'm sure they rehearse
every night before they go on.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
They had to cancel a lot of shows in Italy,
so I wonder if like they had a lot of
free time maybe, But it's like, what are you gonna
what are you gonna wear it to the gondola ride? Well,
my bro, I go j Bron. You don't have access
to that kind of stuff that you would just go
and like, oh, what are you gonna wear? I'm like,
I'm gonna wear my like my felt gigantic long boobs
(29:13):
that I wore in the like a virgin performance with
Madonna on the bed like the two dancers, Like, I'm
just gonna wear that to the club.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I mean the you know, I mean a word you know,
oh like carry in and Naba like what are you wearing?
You know, I'm gonna put on my g string from
the Girly Show like and that's it show up for
Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
So true, It's like that's how the that's how the
world got introduced to carry on and Naba. It's riding
a stripper pole in the beginning of every show from
The Girly Show.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
That's right, that's right, she should do it again.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
She was so beautiful in that concert. She was so gorgeous,
But I find it so hard to see her with hair.
Like everyone in the Girly Show, I don't think ever
needs to grow hair. No, they all had.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
They all had short hair, except for you know, Donna
and Nikki.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, well I think did. Madonna asked them like, are
you willing to shave her head? And if they said no,
she would she wouldn't hire them. But there's something along
these lines, right.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think that was for the for Drowned World. I
don't think that was for Girly Show. I think that
was for Drowned World. There was someone where like they
wanted Donna. They wanted Donna to shave her head really yeah,
and she's like no, and like I don't know. There
was like a podcast episode that they were on and
she's like, no, I'm not doing that, and then Nicky
(30:37):
came in was like, no, We're going to braid her
hair and it's gonna look punk rock. And then like
Madonna saw it was like oh I love that. Okay,
I do remember hearing something she had. She had she
had braids for the Drowned World.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Think that was it was.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
I was supposed to look like punk rock.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but they were down for like secret right mm hmm.
Like I think she had them tied up up their head. Yeah,
they looked they looked great. But yeah, I'm pretty I'm
pretty sure there was something about like she wasn't gonna
make them shave her head, but she asked them if
they were If she asked them, would they And that
was part of the audition process for the Girly Show.
And I'm almost positive I read that somewhere.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But maybe for the dancers. Yeah, oh, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
For the dancers. That's what I mean. Here's for the dancers.
And she she was the only one with the blonde
hair and everyone else had shaved shaved heads or you know.
It was my favorite dancer from that show. I think
her name starts with the you. She was the black
girl that was the main dancer in the what it
Feels Like for a Girl Little Like I Feel Love
video performance. Okay, I don't remember her name. I'm pretty
(31:38):
sure her name started with the you. She was She
was my favorite in that show, her the and the
one like the like the one with like the double joints,
the girl with the red hair that was also in.
I think she ended up getting married to someone from
Reinvention or something. I love the girly show dancers. I
thought they're really incredible. I mean, obviously we all loved
(31:59):
the bond Ambition to our d because we got to
see them and the scenes, we got to learn about them,
to get to know them. But there's something really like
raw and moalistic about the ground world wor dancers. They
were like they went in. They did so many different
styles of dancing from like the you know, the Lives
of Anita, like high energy dance to King and Eye
(32:22):
homage for Wogue, and then like the really intense dancing
for Holiday, and then that really brilliant like scenario for
Just for My Love at the end of the show,
which is probably.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
What I'm high fashion.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
It was very like just it was so beautifully done.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like what I imagine reading like Vogue, like Vogue magazine
in like ninth the nineteen twenties, was like like for
high fashion, that was so whoever thought of that?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And like whatever, like brainstorm that came out of was
just mesmerizing. I would love to be fly on the
wall in the meeting. Oh we're gonna do you know
me and my girl meets you know, this meets that
with like the you know, the harlequin backdrop, and you know,
I always found like I always felt like it was
she was the person who like kind of let people
(33:16):
be like, you know, you couldn't show your hands back
then then show skin. And there's that moment where everyone
just gets lights in the big seat behind her, and
then they all realized, oh my gosh, she just had
a good time. We just we just experienced pleasure and
you like made us do it, and you like let
us have that freedom. It's now we're going to turn
(33:37):
on you, you know. And that was right after the
sextbook and how she let everyone down this path of
sexuality and pleasure and then they all chastised her and
her part. So it was like so many layers. And
today's show was sponsored by Cafe Thestello because I just
had a big cup of it. I can't stop talking.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
I wish I drank coffee. I'm I'm an imposter. I
don't drink coffee. I don't understand it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I would think I would think you were like a
coffee chugging like Italian boy from from upstate.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Nope, nope, don't drink coffee.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Like I would. I would. I would have thought that you, like,
smell a cup of coffee and tell me what Andrea
came from. Yeah, like that's the kind of like when
I first met you, I would have like if somebody
brought up with coffee. But like I was, teevy knows
all about coffee.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I wish, I wish, I wish I liked it. Maybe
one you just tried it and you don't like it.
My parents, like my mother and my grandmother used to
force it on me like well, they didn't like force
me to drink it like every day, but.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Hold your nose and make you swallow it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I remember being like two years old, Yeah, two years old,
Here you should try this. I took a sip and
it was disgusting.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I don't think you're palid at two years old.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Definitely two years old. And then I was like, here,
try this. It has milk in it, and I'm like,
that's disgusting. It was so gross.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I didn't really like coffee. As a kid, I didn't
like the taste of it. But then later, like high
school years is when I used to drink it and
I used to go, oh, I get it now. No,
I just can't, but I did. I did always like
coffee ice cream.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Coffee ice cream is different. I could. I could tolerate
coffee ice cream. I could tolerate like coffee in something
like if it's like like certain Yeah, like if there's
like coffee it, Yeah, coffee cake exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Called coffee cake because you eat it with coffee.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But yeah that in tuna fish can't. I can't do
tuna fish either. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm weird.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I love fish, you know what I do? You know
what I don't like? Though, I don't like smoked things
like smoked gouda and smoked salmon or smoked like white love.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I love smoked guda, I love.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I want yudha, I love cheese. I want gouda. But
there's something about the smoked flavor kind of makes me
gag a little.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And I hate when people say goutauta, gouta. I'm like,
what like gouta? Smoked gouda?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
No. I wonder if Madonna likes cheese.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Oh, I'm sure she does, but I feel like, you know,
she probably doesn't eat it very much.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's sort of vegetarian iss, right, she's sort of veganish
in a.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Way, like macrobiotic.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, she's probably been everything. Her body on the inside
must be so pristine from all like like all the
treatment she's had and all the like just doctors and
nutritionists and stuff, like, the inside of her body must
be like audiable.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
She said, minimal minimal repair. Right, she had a you know,
the horse accident. Didn't she have the horse accident? She
broke what she broke her arm and right, yeah, and
then but that that settled fine, and then you know,
the hip and the knee, Yeah, she had that done.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I'm not sure how much of the hip it's fully
like replaced. I haven't feeling that it was made out
to be a lot worse than it was. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I mean, she she's she's a dancer, so she put
herself through how I mean, dancers put their bodies through,
how like doing all the crazy things that they do. So,
I mean, whatever it happens, and listen, you got a
bionic knee or a bionic hip, good for you. Yeah,
titanium last forever.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
But I think that as a dancer and as a
person who moves the way she does and who like
has used so many different styles of dance in her performances,
I think that her not being able to dance like
she used to is probably the most frustrating thing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Ever. Well, I'm kind of curious to see if and
when we do and we get another tour or another
set of performances, whatever we happen to get, if she'll
try to dance more, because they probably had to tone
it down what it was supposed to be, Yeah, because
(38:37):
you know, she was hospitalized and everything else, and they
probably like, no, don't overdo it. You know, you're not
going to be doing flips on stage this time. So
I mean, but then again, you know when Rebel Heart tour,
you know, it was kind of slowly winding down from
you know, prior tours where she was flipping around on
the stage. But Madame Max she did, she did a
(38:59):
couple lunch and you know, threw herself around a bit.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So I mean, she loves she loves to be on
the floor.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
That I mean, she was, she was rolling around on
the floor from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, that's how she started her career.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
I mean burning up and burning up. She was rolling
around like a virgin. She was rolling around, Yeah, which
just celebrated freaking forty years, which is crazy forty years.
And to think that we don't have a forty year
anniversary release. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
See, I don't even think of those as much. I
know I never used to, but now I'm starting to.
And I'm like, why aren't they like appolizing on things
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Listen, take my money, take my money, give me, give
me that physical you know, like a Virgin fortieth anniversary CD,
give me a you know, dobe utmost Blu ray something something.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
I just all I want from them is to like
re release things so that the younger generation like as
access to them, Like it'll show up on on playlists,
It'll show up on like Spotify playlists and all that.
Like I don't need to buy another version of the album.
And I know there's a lot of collectives out there.
That's fine, like I envy collectors, but like, I just
(40:24):
want acknowledgment of these anniversaries so that the younger generation goes, oh,
this is a Madonna song that you know from forty
years ago, and it still sounds amazing or well, it's also.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
A very iconic album, you know, very important. It's important
to me, you know, I'm pretty sure it's do you
find do you feel that like the like a virgin
album as a whole as important to you.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's not as important as other albums are. Okay, it's
important to me that it that it cemented her Like
usually sophomore albums are not as successful, and this was
like one hundred times more successful than her first album.
So I appreciate it in her canon, like as like
the album that's sealed the deal. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Well, I think what had happened was they had recorded
it while the first album was still on the charts
and still doing well, and they were, you know, I
think she was trying to get her and Nile were
trying to get it out soon, but they couldn't because
(41:29):
Borderline was doing so well.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, and because she The thing that that that I
don't fully love about the album is that most of
the hits on the album were like handed to her. Okay,
like the first album was all basically her Okay, shut
some shut you know. Reggie Lucas helped out and probably
(41:53):
wrote a lot of the riffs and all that. But
but I feel like the first album was like but
Donna Essence and Like A Virgin had some help, you know,
because she was becoming a big star, so like, hey,
let's get the big you know, music songwriting machine people
to come in and and give her these amazing songs
that became hits.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
You know, did did didn't she seek out Nile? Was that?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Did? You? Definitely did? Because he was from Chic, you know,
so it.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Was from Chic and he did. He did Bowie's album,
He did Diana Ross's album. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Production wise, Like, I'm cool with whoever she uses, Like
I get that she likes to vive with somebody different,
but like she didn't write as many of the songs
on Like A Version that she did other albums.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I feel like I can tell you right now, Like
a Virgin was probably the most played record my high
school years from her, Like you played that? I played, Yes,
even more than Like Music or American Life. Yeah, and
those came out when I was in high school. Oh interesting,
(42:57):
So I just I always grab vitated to this album.
I don't know why, it's just I just I love
the tracks. I love you know, the kind of tongue
in cheek of a lot of the track, like like
material girl and like a virgin, you know, dress you
up wonderful.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I'm definitely I dressed you up, and I think
like a virgin of material girl, just like war out
there welcome for me maybe.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Okay, Yeah, I mean they're a little they're a little cheesy.
I suppose I.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Think they're just like just like it. They stained her
as like the material girl and like a virgin singer,
like a virgin. The coolest part about like a version
is how she's done it tremendously different in every minutes.
Worship that about her.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
What's your favorite like a virgin performance?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh, that's a tough one because happened at different points
in her I mean the the Blonde Amission tour is definitely.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Okay, right, I mean that was whoever came up with that,
Like I kind of I kind of like the Confessions
tour and that was really fun. She sang it beautifully
and I liked I liked the arrangement on it, you know.
I mean she didn't, you know, do much dance wise, but.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
But every time she jumped on that freaking horse, I
would my heart would draw like you just fell off
of one and you're gonna do this.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
That was so with the broken bones in the background
on the screen.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
Your X rays. Yeah, I actually really really really love
the m DNA version with that coursetting scene and are
getting just oh my god. Oh and I'll never forget
there's a really famous burlesque girl name is name is
(44:56):
just gaving me right now. Dea Anti's right. She made
mention of that. She's like, I just came back into
one of her posts. She's like, I came back from
seeing Madonna. Blah blah blah. The show is beautiful. There's
a really beautiful coursetting scene and as the centerpiece of
the show, and it was marvelous and like the way
she described it, I was like, that's exactly what well
(45:18):
either like hearing it from her, like praiseed from Ditavantisa
was like, good, someone who knows their ship is appreciating
what she just did, you know, hmm. Every night of
the show, getting like.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh oh definitely, But like you said, she does it
different every time. Yeah, I mean even even celebration, the
celebration tour. You know they you know, she didn't you know,
she didn't perform it, you know herself. It was, you know,
part of an interlude.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
But right, if I could have teleported out of the
arena and went and had a cheeseburger for five minutes,
that would have been during the Celebration tour when I would.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Have done it.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah, I hated that moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's kind of like a fever dream, right. No, it's
like it's a bad trip.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You can't get rid of the only way to get
rid of a bad trip is just to wait it out.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
You're scarred from it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
I hate that moment in the show.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
I mean, for that shows.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
That show would have been perfect if it did have that.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Like for five seconds, I would have like, okay, fine whatever,
you know, like the whole Billy Jean thing because she
did that during the Virgin tour fun throwback, but maybe
not the whole the whole song, not the whole mash up.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
But I think I didn't hate the mash up. I
didn't hate that part of it. I hated the like
behind the screen shadow, I don't know. I also Michael
Jackson was was a cut to.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Her kind of was I mean? And in the in
the end, you know, in those leaked audio clips, you
know that he was had leaked, you know where he's like, oh,
blah blah blah. You know, she's she's not nice and
you know, she's jealous of me. And I mean I
think that at one time they were friendly and then
(47:13):
I think he, uh after after they she brought him
it was I think for in the closet and he
didn't like it. Yeah, he was too vulgar, too sexual.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Meanwhile he's like grabbing a crutch and I don't know,
it's crazy thing.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah, well whatever, at least at least and you know,
it's interesting. So I didn't realize this at first, and
I was actually chatting with Carlos, you know, Carlos Acosta,
and I was like, you know, I wish that she
sang like a virgin on it, you know, and he's like, well, no,
that is her. I was like it is and he's like,
that's the demo. I'm like, you know, you're right, that's
(47:50):
the demo version that they're playing before they sped it
up or yeah yeah, And I was like, you're right.
And then recently it surfaced on Instagram. U Nile Rogers
was on the RuPaul podcast and he was saying, how oh, yeah,
you know, you know, Madonna couldn't hit those notes, so
(48:11):
you know, we we had we slowed down the tempo
how her sing it, and then sped it up, and
I'm like, huh, good job.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Oh see, I didn't know that. I thought they like,
I thought that they it shoed up to be more
like ironic and like whiny.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
That's that's what I mean. Maybe that was their ultimate goal.
But he did he did say whiny.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
But I thought it would like to be more like minimuci,
you know, like like like I kept very like it
like instid.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Of young, like more young, like more youthful.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Or just like like like silly, like it was more
like tongue in cheek. It was like the way it
was on the on the tour that was the original vocals,
and it sounded a little less sound a little more serious,
you know. Hmmm it was so I don't know. I
didn't know because you couldn't have the notes since she's
sang it and she hit the note, so like.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Well, I think that's that's that's what Nile said. Correct
me if I'm wrong, somebody can message me and say, no.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
This isn't exactly what he said.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I think it was, he said, it was the what's
that guy? Luther Vandros? Uh, the Luther Vandros. I guess
that's like what they used to do with Luther was
they'd slow it down and then speed it up and
it would be pitched. But I think a lot a
lot of the tracks on like a Virgin have a
lot of you know, innocent and sweet and tongue in cheek. Yeah,
(49:32):
it was.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
It was very much a high school girl album.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Exactly why I listened to it in high school because I.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Very much like write your name on the guys and
write the guy's name on your notebook kind of like
you know, like like there's an innocence, but there's also
like a like none of the songs are really like
well like stay and Pretender kind of like yeah, he's
a pretender like kind of like like jock and cheerleader kind.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
Of mm hmm, yeah, I could. That's probably why I
gravitated to it, because that was very much man could
write the guy's name that I like on my notebook
b F F Forever.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
And then like for True Blue, she kind of went
back into like even deeper into like it will you
be My Valentine feeling. You know. It's probably why people
like young girls loved her so much because she was
a little edgy, but then she was also like naives
and like her songs had like an optimism, and then
(50:31):
like when her songs are about somebody who had heard her,
it was like, well, you hurt me, you know, like
you you left me in the dust, like you left
me to you know. And later on it got more dramatic,
but in the beginning it was very like you were
my crush and you blew it.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
You know, what do you think of angel?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
I love Angels. It's something about like the production of
it that always sat weird with me, Like I can
never figure out the beat.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
Like the accompaniment, like like that that intro to it.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, it just it always like seemed like you were
you were listening to the song in the middle of
the song when it was playing from the beginning. Yeah,
something about the production on like a virgin didn't quite
do it for me. I think that's what it might be, like.
I love this the vocals, I you know, I love
Love don't live here Anymore. I didn't even know that
was a cover until later.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
One of my favorite ballads, but my all time.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Ultimately, my favorite song on that album, I think is
Shooby Doo.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
We love I love Shooby Do too. And I feel
like a lot of people either don't know it or
they don't remember it's memorable for them. They picked them
Shooby Doo, they won people pick on it, people pick
them a lot of things because they're haters.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
But they you know, it's kind of like love makes
the world go around.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Like just for shoe we do. Yeah, maybe you know what,
maybe we'll have to we'll have to play that, you know. Yeah,
well yeah, because we all have a special guest coming up.
We sure do.
Speaker 2 (52:01):
We've already been recording for seven hours, but uh, let's
edit edit it down to us three and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I mean, why not.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
One of one of one of me and Stevie shared
superpowers is the ability to go on tangents and somehow
find our way back to the original tangent and get
back on the road.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
We always, we always find our way back home. Yeah,
that's a Hannah Montana song.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh jeez, so you are you?
Speaker 1 (52:33):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Hannamatana? Generation?
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Is that you? No? I it's too young. It's it's
a little too young for me. But I definitely jumped
on the bandwagon. I'm not gonna lie. Oh yeah, I
liked I Carly Okay, So when it came to like
Hannah and Mile, I didn't watch the show until later,
(52:55):
like when it was like after I want to say,
like like edit, like peak popularity. I started watching it,
but initially my first introduction was Miley's See You Again,
and I was like, oh, I love this, and I
was like, I didn't know that, like her songs were
like this, like because I didn't pay much mind. And
(53:19):
then I went back and I heard some Hannah stuff
and I'm like, this is cheesy and I love it,
and I started listening to more Hannah than Miley.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
I watched the tour with three D glasses. When I
was on the Disney Channel too, I was there, anyway,
are we taking a break?
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, we'll play. I was wondering what song was should
play from? Like a virgin? Should we do? Should we do?
Or should we do something a little more uplifting? Like
over and over.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Over and over? Because we just we keep going over
and over.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
I think it's one of Madonna's Maybe it's a companion
to Holiday, but it's one of the first of her,
like you're a superstar, don't waste any time, like get
your ship and get her done, like it's one of her.
She always has a song that's about like don't waste time,
like hurry up, time goes by so slowly, like it's
(54:14):
her first time song?
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Is it her first time song? Wasn't there?
Speaker 2 (54:19):
So this song about like a song about not hesitating
and like going for your dreams, Okay, because there was
nothing on the first album that had that theme, right,
I don't think so. The first album was much about
love and our break and sexual gin and all.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
That, and it was a little bit more raw than this. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I think Over and Over was her first of like
you know, the beat goes on over and over spotlight,
you know what I'm saying, Like songs about like like
getting following your dreams and you're a superstar. But when
we come back, we're gonna have a little chat with
our very special guest, Michelle Ruiz, who's one of my
(55:04):
cohorts from Madonna Worship Night. People call us the the
godmother and godfather of the Madonna fan community. It is
really funny. But so we're gonna listen to over and
Over and then when we come back, we're gonna we're
gonna chat with one only Michelle Luise.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Can.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
I just can't say I gotta do it. No, I
can't really say. No, I'm not afraid again A get up, Johnny.
If I don't do it, I won't get anymore. You
try to grid usize my job. If I lose actual real.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Up?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
Is how you like in the again?
Speaker 5 (55:52):
Begin I know I gotta be can Oh I know
I getta again? Oh I know got.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
The last my Christmas stake A only game is not
ch as. I can't take me never done a seeing
me standing still.
Speaker 5 (56:16):
I never don't stunt you. I get my fool.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
It doesn't mad. It's want you two that takes you far.
And first you jumps see Summon. I got to shore
beget him again.
Speaker 5 (56:33):
Oh I know how you get him again? Oh no,
no you get him again? Oh no, you gotta again.
Oh I know.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
I'm not afraid to say for you to burph. Oh
and I'll go out in the street.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
And and I was
Speaker 5 (56:54):
Shutting again from my mind
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