2x03 | Ana Avellana es madrastra pero no ejerce.

Ana Avellana, es fotógrafa, pastelera y una vividora nata. Muy familiar pero a veces la familia no son todos los que deberían estar. Es madrastra pero no ejerce. Nos lo cuenta todo y de una manera muy muy sincera, en el reino.

¡Bienvenida al reino, Ana!

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Episode Transcript

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Madrastras without children, a podcast ofclear mountains or welcome to the king Ana

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Avellana, how about to the kingdomof the tales of the stepmothers. Since
you' re a stepmother, you' ll tell us well, though a
good family. There' s alot of debate on that issue, but
I' m surrounded by stepmothers.That' s true. But because we
' re coming, you' vegot a lot, but so have you,

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your countries stopped, too. Yes, yes, yes, you have
been, yes, my sister's mother has passed away. But yes,
yes. And the truth is thatit was for me like the model
to follow, because despite being acrazy family, because it' s true
that my family is all to close. But it is a madness of absolute
consent to people and acceptance of situationsin plan. Let' s see if

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my father separates, because at thattime people got married and separated with a
lot of complications, but they didthe same. Yeah, and she'
s meeting with a lady again,a lady who was actually a young Czech
woman who started her life again andwanted to start going up with him,
which poor thing already had enough andshe has a daughter and then, for
me it was oysters. I havea new sister who' s really cool.

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She always, always, always tookcare of us a lot more,
even than my father. She worriedthat we knew our sister, that we
were closer to the age difference wealready had, than when she was born
and was seventeen, that is,when your father separated from your mother,
I was very small. I wasseven ah okay, but then at seventeen

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is when he already had a relationshipand my little sister was born again.
Then of course, a big agedifference, but I picked her up at
school, helped her what she couldsay. I looked after her May.
I don' t know what shewas, because for me she was the
model stepmother, that is, whatto do and in fact, until a

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few Christmases, already when she separatedfrom my father, who changed, separated,
we all had dinner together at Christmas. It is my mother she,
that is, we all get ifwhat I tell you to accept people,
as it is clear and in thesituation would be as well, i e,
I delighted to have a new sisterand another family, because another family

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yes, the same family only ofeach one, because by his way,
but enlarged, because of course,you have a stepmother, it is a
reference, which is what you sayexactly and that hears, for it is
good petra. Now, I mean, I tell you, she was always
worried that my sister Marta was alone. There were three of us. Then,
of course, they always have threebrothers, two brothers. I have

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two brothers, your mother' smarriage and complete father and sister after a
mother, your exact smallest father,which is the one that we have a
big age difference. Of course,then, I' m telling you,
but still I' m telling you, that is, she always wanted us
to have contact with her, because, because of the same, because always

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being alone more complicated than having someonearound, yes, and it' s
a relationship, because now it's not like with my other sister who
' s been texting me since eighto' clock in the morning, because,
well, we' re rather stretchedout. We have lived together,
we have been in the same roomsince we were born and although there was
already in Germany, because today itis like living here next to, of

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course, yes and nothing, andvery well as for my first, my
first relationship, as with a mother, this then and your mother, yes,
along with someone then not, notmy mother, my mother, because
she had boyfriends and things like that, yes, but she had no more
children, she was old and alreadywith three, no, no, no,
she was no longer bathed, mymother is going to take us all

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forward and of course, we cannotcomplain in that sense. But well,
as a stepmother he was my rolemodel to say oysters. I' m
telling you, he took care ofus, gave him good gifts, the
typical thing that sometimes the kids,because then I was smaller. Yes,
then of course, the relationship wasvery, very, very positive. His
family know us, his mother,also my sister Marta' s grandmother,

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who already passed away, but theyknew us. It means you didn'
t hide that the 1970s things weredifferent, because of course it' s
a bit of an agenda now.But in your class, when you went
to school, they stopped inviting meto birthdays because my parents are separated.
How strong that was in the seventies, which I do today. If you

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don' t invite the separated parents, they don' t have, you
wouldn' t have anyone, becausenowadays, of course, it' s
normal that families are no longer forever. And that' s why I'
m telling you what we were talkingabout this morning with my sister, what
you make of coming, we werejust talking to her for a while.
That' s what stepmothers are nolonger what they used to be. She
' s not the fairy tale witchwho' s going to martyr you and

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wants you to disappear into the skankof the house and stuff like that.
He' s my husband. Ihaven' t married, but it'
s like being married to me.He has some children, so I'
m back to being part of thefamily, a new family that is created
through pieces of other families. Ofcourse what we are, but nothing else,
for nothing further than what happened tome on paper is like very idyllic

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or what you say about woe howgood, but then you pass the time.
You have a father of faith,couples many and many ages, almost
always a little younger than me.I don' t know why it must
be that I have to wait.But it' s true you have a
young spirit you' re young,but you have no, no, I

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' m not that much, butI' m not going to say it.
But it' s true that I' ve always been with young people
and it' s true that Inever wanted to have children, so that
' s what I' ve hadalways and almost always and maybe ever what
you think, oh, what youthink, because I, like the good
mother, what it would be.But I think we all do. But

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it' s just that I'm leaking him, too. That super
fleeting let' s say that's I think that' s biology at
thirty and that gives you the pointto say, but right away. I
was lucky, because yes, Idon' t think I would have been
a good mother, no more,because of what I see today all the
people that I have around my friendsand all I mean is that it'

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s complicated to be a father inthis situation, it' s complicated.
I think it' s complicated beinga parent and being that child too because
it' s going to be themost complicated thing, the nest too that
' s going fabric and more thathappened to me. Sure, you know
your partner and he tells you.I met him nine years ago. Okay,

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I have three kids and Jess afterthree kids. Today, that people
have three children at our ages,it' s rare that one who wants
to have has two but there separateseveryone. But three children hear, because
children like them. He' salways liked it. You can tell because
the relationship you have with my nieces, that all I have are nieces,

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and you can tell that you likechildren and that you love your children.
Evidently, I don' t mean, he' s loved them from the
beginning and he' s had themlove them. And to say that we
' re going to be there arepeople who really want to have children.
Looks like it. Now I'm surprised to learn, but well,

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if I know him, nine yearsago he had three children and I had
had relationships with younger people than Iof these people that you say my mother
when they were older, because youplant yourself in forty and you keep acting
like you' re studying in collegeor something. That' s really that

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there are certain ages that you sayno longer. It is time for there
to be maturity, to assume certainthings and to say this already, because
that then I started with him.And well within the reaction, well because
she is a fantastic person of thesewho likes to travel, likes to live,

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well enjoy everything. And then,of course, you catch someone,
and besides, you think, hehas three kids, he knows what emotional
stability is, even though you've just had a complicated marriage. Or
yes, all the good, ofcourse, all the break- ups when
they throw it out, there's something or no children out there.
Of course, then, of course, there, you think, because I

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' m going to try. He' d been separated for a long time.
Not because a couple of years,what happens is that he is,
he had children very soon It's okay then he spent working, raising
children. It is worth until fortyhours and that the children are already beginning
to have an age that can beleft alone. Okay, or at least

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it' s gone, now,you don' t have to keep an
eye on them. Then, ofcourse, he splits up already when his
children are already in adolescence. Andthat' s where the trouble starts.
Because adolescence I remember mine, thatis, as something we go tumultuous now
and I remember mine, so thatthose of others are already the adolescences I

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have had around me. It's just that it' s a very
complicated time, that is, youhave to look for your place in the
world, your place in the family, your place with new people, your
place in yourself that you' relooking for and that you don' t
know who you are, and ofcourse you like that I don' t

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like it if you like what Iwant. I don' t know what
I want in life, I don' t know what I' m gonna
let you know. And apart fromthe fact that now teenagers seem to last
until they' re thirty- five. Yeah, because I see people around
and you say my mother is complicated, but well yeah and it starts when
she tells you I have three kids. You don' t get scared,

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you don' t go, youdon' t run. Not that I
get scared with difficulty. You're brave not to see what comes to
see. I get scared with difficultybecause they didn' t really live with
him first. You know the weekends. The good thing about these cases is
that on weekends. Adapting to aweekend is easier or a holiday than adapting

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on a day- to- daybasis, because day- to- day
they live with clarity, they livewith their mother. So, day to
day, you really don' thave that problem. I' m telling
you, I' ve always livedwith my family, it' s always
been like very open and accepted everyone. So I, for you say how
good it is, because you saythese more people and in fact I at
first, for I was in anormal relationship, your little daughter, who

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was the one with whom I hadthe most good, because the others,
as they are older, for alreadya little to her bo is worth it
in the little girl well how oldshe was, then she was twelve to
see eleven twelve. That way betweenthe twelve. And so and the middle
one, which is a boy,is seventeen at the time and the oldest

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was already twenty- two, wasalready studying and with that so I deal
zero, because I didn' tsee much of his father either. It
means those ages already you go toyour ball and no longer, you no
longer live with your parents, ofcourse and how you met his children,
because I met them in the chalet. They had a chalet and that chalet,

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because it was like the weekend meetingcenter. They had all those friends
in town. I mean it waslike for them in a place where they
had lived in many summers, manyholidays, like the family home. Yes
of summer when they were divided,house of Valencia, house of such I
do not know what, for theythere were the holidays. So, when

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people live on vacation it' svery easy, especially in an open space
that you' re on the terracequietly reading already and they come in,
they grab the snack and go basicallyalready. I don' t know if
it would be easier or harder,because in the end there' s a
I don' t know. Ithink the routine is easier, because in

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the end the routine marks you leaveschool you do homework, listen Yes,
the schedule almost comes to you alone. I do and I would have liked
it because they didn' t reallygive me any chance of any opportunities.
And those kids who are already older, but at that moment I was seeing
children and I was at that momentthey didn' t give me any chance.

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I was one more element that wasaround the house. Yeah, and
he was one more person and likeyou could, like you were. And
besides, I' ve always beenlike tolerant and when mind doesn' t
interact with people who don' twant to interact either. Congo because I

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' m not really trying. Ididn' t plan on forcing a madre
relationship until I said here, I' m the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one who' s the one who' s the one who' s the
one. It wasn' t mineand it never was, in fact,
and but when your partner introduces you, what do you tell them? Yes,
well, official nation presence, youarrive alone or so much and too

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much I say to you that issuper at first well, that is,
without any kind of problem. Ofcourse, the thing is, I was
quiet as a door. You know, I mean, I' ve got
nothing to say here, absolutely nothingto command. Of course, there'
s nothing that practically doesn' thave to be counted. Just like with

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her mother, yes, she hasa very close relationship to talk about her.
She tells me I tell her whenshe tells me things. You understand
the whole family situation. You knowwhy, of course, there are many
more stories behind every family. Sure, then, you understand the family situation

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and you understand how you get totalk to his mother, with your partner
' s ex- partner, thatis, how. I mean that'
s not usual, it' snot usual, but of course when it
' s when you, when you' re part of a family, that
is, as little as you want, there are occasions that you agree,

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yes, what you agree, andmore, they have a common chalet.
You know it' s about peoplegoing in and out. You know then
there are times you interact. Ididn' t have a problem in that
sense. Hi, hi bye byeAnd then, besides, the times I
spoke to her under circumstances and suchzero problems because she was a person,

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because she also kept the distance.So, when you have a right distance
from me, yes, education orthe wave which you educate absolute. What
happens is that, of course,when you start to have a relationship a
little longer, you say what ashame that I, I know, his
little daughter was very smart and itis, yes, you say oysters you
could have studied more you could liketo read and that nowadays young people or

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kids now reading is very complicated andliked alert, you say oysters enhance.
Of course, I want the goodfor the people I have around me.
Sure, yeah, that' strue, you want to know how to
talk to them, but the parapetwas brutal and the parapets of the children

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are put by the elders. I' ve got all that more than totally
Let' s go. That's very clear. A child by himself
to the count opens his arms.You hugged. I have all the people
around me. For example, mysister is fine that her ex- husband,
her daughter' s father, hasmarried another girl who is lovely,

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that I have gone on vacation withthem. This is what I tell you
in my house. That' sthe order of the day. I mean
I' ve done more going outwith them, who have two children,
they' re Austrians who sing inSpanish because they have a Spanish naniy,
and the baby, three- year- old, sang with me in Spanish

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and say if you look at itfrom the outside. That you know is
a stepmother to use is with myniece and never the other way around.
He has always supported her, alwayswanted her to be with her brothers.
I mean, that' s whatit' s all about. It'
s not better to have someone totake care of your children when you'

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re not in the best possible way, exactly, of course, as it
fits, as it takes care ofits own children. Of course, then
I tell you, I haven't had the opportunity to be a stepmother
in that sense of saying I wouldhave liked to go to the theater the
ease we have of knowing the actualityof things that they like. Evidently,
yes, the comic fair certain thingswith musical concerts of everything is valid,

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because, because I have not hadthat gives that opportunity and, honestly,
and being a little sight, theyhave lost it totally, of course and
they realize with the passage of theuncle. I think so, or when
you hear this episode. I don' t think I heard it, I
don' t know, but itis. I think that when they get

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older, as of course but ofcourse I put myself in your role of
being in a villa with your partnerthat you have started, which is a
cool moment that I know is verycool with your children, that you say
listen to you, because it makesyou plan to have people at home and
such and you did not like them, not intervened or not with history.

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Yeah, sometimes it did cost me. But on the other hand, we
and Joseph are also very open.People come to them, I don'
t know what you know on weekends, very social with friends and so on
adults. You' re still havingfun for God' s sake. You

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know you' re sitting on ariclaro and talking to them and you say,
well, be careful. I don' t know what, because you
know what you say as an adult, that reality you' ve done sometimes
more. But for the grown-up, it' s time to make
it clear. Now you' rean adult and you say clear care don
' t drink at village parties,of course when, well, I know

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you, but I don' tsee alcohol. Never drank pole entos.
I' m the fucker now I' ve already had it all, surely,
but you do make a little grown- up. You don' t
say, but we' re goingin complete anarchy. There they went in
and out. And that' sfine, because vacations are for that and
in villages it' s very easy. Yes, because in the villages everyone
knows each other, of course,you don' t have a schedule,

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but that' s the perfect vacationis the whole child has the theme with
a funny father, it' swith a father who won' t burden
you in that sense of strict atthree, here at four already to see
he trusted them and they, then, lived in that freedom very well and
let' s go. That's the main thing for me. I
want it clear and then you choose. I have it very clear. Yo,

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here' s what I' moffering. I' ll offer.
What I have was what I looklike ne and that was my situation.
Then they' ve grown older andthen you say oysters, the relationship with
your father gets complicated. I don' t know what. It doesn'
t count because of course there's no Chile anymore It' s good

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because by the circumstances, of course, then you say it' s hard
now. Apart from them, theybecome older, obviously, and we all
don' t call home every dayanymore. Of course, then they have
their life and also makes their lifeand of course not to live with them.
That' s why my sister saidyou weren' t moms alluso.
I wouldn' t have had tosay and I would' ve frozen that

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room, that house was come on, those kids' room. She was
a lioness and at the end ofthe summer, because everything is picked up
and that' s it, butcome on I haven' t had that
stepmother of hers and on the weekends, Kat had to live with you and
go to your house. No,no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no. That' swhy I was talking to you. I
' m not really a mother untilI use it, because the shawl wasn
' t just on vacation and noton weekdays. Of course, the truth
is that if I haven' tlived with kids I have to make rules
about, also because most stepmothers needto get in place so they don'

(21:53):
t eat them. Of course,from what I' ve heard on your
postcast I all want to be apart of it that I understand it clearly
is that clear when it' sdifferent, because when you live together,
you live with your trus daughters andsuddenly it' s a family. But
yes, the family has the dynamicsso clear the behavior that you have to
buy, go buy, you haveto eat and of course, you have

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to put washing machines. You haveto tell me if there is tomorrow what
uniform you are wearing, because,clearly, there is a family order,
of course, of children' sfamily and, for example, in my
house, my brother, which alsohappened to him, because that is also
separate. He also split up andjoined another woman. I have to talk
to your brothers because I see afilion there of stepmothers. You' ve

(22:37):
got at my house, you've got madros at that tip shovel.
I think you' ve taken theleast of them. The smeller warns your
sister that the next one. Seriously. My brother also broke up, married,
married another woman. I did havetwo of yours on me, and
my brother has two Disney movies.At that time in the family went well
to the beast. You' relistening to stepmothers with no children to the

(23:26):
beast, because of course, theywent to live together. She takes the
kids, seals my nieces stay withmy sister- in- law. You
know, of course. Imagine thatmess and the last sentence in this family
is always you shut up that youdon' t have kids. Oh,
what a rage that could make mea T- shirt that you put on

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you shut up that you don't have kids. In fact, you
should' ve called this show"Yes," but we didn' t
shut up, and that' swhy we' re doing a podcast.
It' s clear there and yousay it' s okay for me to
shut up, but here' smy nieces. This is a hand.
You don' t have kids.We have no children, but no,
but we have eyes, we seesituations, we read Sometimes we understand children

(24:07):
better because we are not inside andyou see them in a way that the
child says. This one needs thisthat you' re not seeing clearly,
because you' re the other parentfrom another point of view, because the
parents, by all the parents thatI have around me. Not your children
are the first always and do notsee your children as who they really are.

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I really believe it, uh,yeah, they don' t see
it, I mean, they don' t see their kids as who they
really are. And that must besome kind of clip that clicks. Yeah,
you know, and it changes inyour life when you have kids,
because I see it and you sayhow my nieces are sacred to me.
I have four, two of myolder brother, one of my sister'

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s already half twenty who is alreadyolder, yes, and a two-
year- old little girl of mysister, this third little girl is.
So that' s why I tellyou that for me my nieces are sacred,
that no one touches them and nomadre is less clear. So that
' s why I' m tellingyou it' s hard to adjust gearing

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all families and of course, it' s very difficult to do stepmother,
to have stepmothers, which complicates stepmothersaround everything. But it' s true
that when we don' t havechildren is one and the phrase you'
ve been told, I' vebeen told and the people who are listening
to us, the women who arelistening to us and don' t have
children, is a mandanga that Idon' t know. It' s
like it cancels out the last wordtoo You shut up because you don'

(25:44):
t have kids, of course,but that' s what I say.
I don' t have children,but I have judgment, which is very
good. I don' t havekids, but let' s see.
I don' t think it's right for you to finish things,
even if they' re your kids. Of course, especially I do the
relationships with the ones they make themost with that they are with my brothers.
Yeah, you know, then they' re the ones you can really

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get to, we tell each otherall over the place. Family meals in
my house are to put one fora series of Netflix, not a series
of these family Yes, it's worth t dissas, but we'
re just all together already, butalways that' s very healthy, it
' s saying things. It isvery and not keep anything in Callao and
go with the runru an exact houseand we are and we are untouchable to

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others that no one gives me withmy public sister. The only thing I
can get that in very clear andclear with my nieces. And this,
but it' s true that wealso have many times, because it'
s like you don' t educate, since you' re not a mother,
you can' t me, youdon' t know what it'

(26:52):
s like to have a child 24hours and in the end give him the
phone with I don' t knowhow clear he looks, I mean,
there are things that obviously, youhave to have a good one. I
' m not in that situation,but maybe I' m in another situation.
You know and you think yes,and you think you wouldn' t.
I wouldn' t let them watchTV in a restaurant so they wouldn
' t beat the shit out ofthe day next door, either I have
you or you say I wouldn't, because I' m sure they
' d put them on a TV. I' d put a sense of

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helmets this big,' cause atsome point you have to let your brain
rest. I' m super orsuper strict with that,' cause I
feel really sorry for going to arestaurant. First of all, it bothers
me that kids are wearing a mobilephone without a helmet and they' re
ass- fucking- fingered with someinfamous music that you say is a restaurant,

(27:37):
because if you don' t,you know sitting at the table maybe
you have to go to another kindof restaurant. But well that and I
love children and such, but I' m so sorry to see a father
and a mother having lunch with ababy, which is that I saw him
the other day. A baby wassuper small, she would have three little
years old and the baby with themobile phone and the parents to her ball
And I say you' re nottalking to that little girl, she'
s a little person who' sgrowing up, of course, but,

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since you don' t know everythingthere is since she got up that she
didn' t mean I have leftyou the exact world until five o'
clock in the afternoon that there wasno way. I don' t know
what very stressful active schools are becausethey pick me up. Who picks me
up today, who doesn' tpick me up. Of course I want
to say that we also have toput ourselves in the role of them.
Yes, there is history, thereis, but good and also things have
changed. Now a lot less kids. Okay, yeah, we used to

(28:26):
be a pineapple, we were onvacation. There were nine of us,
my cousins, and we all hadbreakfast and disappeared, which is true.
That' s very entertaining. Vacationthere all together. You don' t
get bored I don' t knowwhat. And you' d go and
spend the whole day out there andcome back when you wanted to eat,

(28:48):
you know what. When it comesto feeling good, I have to go
home, because if the trees weregoing, I don' t know what.
That is the adventure and of course. Now that' s very complicated.
First, kids can' t beout on the street like they used
to be. No, and therearen' t so many of them you
might eat with friends, and maybethere' s only one clear child,
and that kid' s gonna getbored like an exact one. You don
' t have many, don't have brothers or you' re clear,

(29:12):
of course, they' re veryunique, very clear, clear and
not and it' s not thesame. So it' s normal for
them to relate to the screens.Sometimes they already relate to screens being next
to each other. But that's another one. I' ve got
the moment, I' ve gotmy screens. I think they' re
gonna make us, so I seechildren so isolated from them that they don
' t know, they don't know how to bore, they don

(29:33):
' t know how to talk toan adult. Or they' re already
going to be with meat. That' s another thing that' s always
caught my attention. I speak withchildren as if they were adults, of
course to see, and with childrenof three years not, but with children
of nine ten they understand you perfectly. If they don' t want to

(29:53):
understand you, it' s becauseyou don' t want to. And
when you tell them things and theytell you no, that' s not
what I think and say, well, it' s clear, you can
think what you want, but lifeis something else, yes, but you
can reason with them. And thereare times when the parents themselves hallucinate how
much he' s talking to you, how clear, and that' s

(30:14):
what I was missing to say isthat I don' t have access to
those children. I don' twant those kids. Well, let'
s call those young people. Youknow then and they never listened to me.
I never cared about Christmas and allthat as you celebrate, you don
' t celebrate them together. Andyour partner with them, my partner has

(30:36):
won a family of mine. Well, lucky that in that sense, my
praising nieces, because she' sthe funniest person, the most fantastic person
really, that is, for ayoung person were my nieces who are twenty

(30:56):
years old, it' s thatshe gets along super well with them,
because it' s because sometimes he' s like he' s 20 years
old, he gets up and theygo in the car and they make adventures
and I don' t know whatwe' re going to do on a
bike and he takes them and hebrings them in and he' s a
long time ago, I mean,I mean, I have a theme or

(31:22):
I' m just saying that's what I tell him his kids are
missing everything, of course because mynieces really love it, I mean,
all the older ones and the petonot yet, but he' ll worship
it because he likes it very much. The kids do, so it'
s one with them they have fun, they go out, they' re
going to take pictures in Jastagra aumsI don' t know what. Yeah,
and all that and they love itbecause it' s super fun for
young people, it' s notfrom you with a straight stick of strict.

(31:48):
It' s really fun and it' s fantastic. I mean,
it' s perfect and it's earned, of course, it'
s earned family too, it's clear, with my whole family,
but it' s earned people whoare open to the truth, because we
' re more like that, ifyou bring them home, it' s
welcome and on top of that,it' s enriching, because maybe it

(32:12):
tells you things that you clearly knowor, because I know people outside,
friends of France. We lived mycousins and lived in Italy. My hers
is doing a lot in France.My sister lives in Germany, I mean.
We have American friends, that is, my house has always been a
crucible of people. Yeah, youknow people outside. That' s because
at last, when you' revery closed, then maybe you haven'

(32:34):
t had a chance to travel oryou don' t like it. You
' re in your house, inyour neighborhood, or all your life with
your parents. You don' tknow what. It' s very hard
to get in there, of course, but if you' re used to
traveling to, I also have somecousins who live in Switzerland and there are
times that they call the phone andhear that you say that but you haven
' t seen me coming no moreor by going up. Well, come
on in, of course, andthat' s how cool it is for

(32:55):
me, and besides, you don' t get overwhelmed by the fact that
five people, mattresses and nieces withfriends who don' t know who,
because mattresses that come, it's good to see that you have room
for everyone in the pile there andthere' s me and that' s
the fun, of course, really, that' s the fun, not

(33:19):
to be so strict, well,also in clear phases, well, of
course, in times and your familyhas met your stepchildren. At first we
tried to pull there, but Ialready told you little, but and you
noticed that they were, that is, that I was doing especially with his
youngest daughter. So she was reallysmaller, of course, he had to

(33:43):
come with her. So you didtry it, well of course, I
have a sign the same age thatit has that it is very would have
connected, but it' s notthat when you don' t really want
you know, you can' tforce it either. You know, and

(34:04):
you didn' t propose at somepoint. Hey, we' re not
going. I' ll give youThursday or everything I tell you I tried.
I like to make cakes, it' s good and great and it
was coming with me clearly we don' t make a cake for the English
teacher that I don' t knowhow many we give ah because come we
make you a cake with the Englandflag and this and the other one I

(34:25):
don' t know what. He' d come with me, we'
d do it and that' sfine later, well, I don'
t know what for the math teacher, I mean, but what' s
going on at your school? Okay, so we made another tartup Yes,
it was always me I was alwayslooking for ways to get closer than to
say yes, because I could throwit out clearly, and yes, I

(34:45):
came and you picked up and soon, but at first because I was
small and then when you' vegrown older. It' s just that
I mean it' s very difficultto try to meet someone and they don
' t even answer you, well, they won' t try much either.
Already things like saying s no morecold the second no more I don
' t tell twice I don't care that you don' t have
to be friends with you or Idon' t. Two fish tell me,

(35:07):
they tell me one and you getit perfect. I understand perfectly.
It' s just that I'm telling you and they' re missing
it. They would' ve passedit on. Super good. If you
mean there' s different in myhouse and fun beyond my possibilities. No,
but it' s just that thefamily is expanding, of course,

(35:27):
other than they' re missing theirown father. Yeah, that aside.
That' s basically it. Butbesides, the good things multiply, that
also more people, more houses,of course, more plans, more mothers,
more people who take care of you, more people than if something is
going to happen to you, youhave to go to and they are going
to be given is fundamental. Sure. I' ve been able to talk

(35:51):
to my father' s wife aboutthings that, maybe, with your mother,
you don' t dare be ashamedanymore. I don' t know
what that means besides that she wasalready young and so and maybe she makes
you approach her in another way,of course, like when she' s
another an aunt who of course isn' t the same. Yeah, it
' s good to tell your mother. Sure, my sister says that a

(36:12):
lot of times. My daughter tellsyou things she doesn' t tell me.
And as a man. Of courseyou' re her mother and the
mothers are to be strict friends,of course not and to educate and you
' re for the good, forthe party. Of course, being a
cool aunt. It' s veryclear that you' re clearly in love

(36:34):
with trouble. I' m cleareverything, because they' re not exactly
aunty. And you, when yourfather, returning to your stepmother, when
your father separates, that is,it' s been a long time since
they get married or from getting togetheruntil they split up. It' s
not that good, it' sthat would be for five more podcasts.
Speaking of my dad and me,I freaked out, and yeah, okay,

(36:55):
all right, all right. Yousee congratulations, so lucky to get
over it, and besides, atfirst you' re always angry or something,
but then you think you don't know all the circumstances. Logo,
when I' ve grown older,I' ve seen things differently.
You see things in a way mypoor father, because he didn' t

(37:15):
manage personal relationships with his women withany and then, because it was other
times you know in the sixties itwas super complicated to separate, you were
super complicated to get married. Ofcourse, my mother married eight years of
boyfriends. You know what you sayand tell me things. Of course he

(37:38):
' s already telling you as anadult. Of course and you say my
poor father, because they were therewas no freedom that there is now.
Not clear about talking to your kids. The parents were the strict father figure
and could not get out of thatexact figure. Sure, and then it

(37:59):
' s just that of course.Then he repeated the same schemas again in
his second family, repeating the samescripts, but because he wouldn' t
know. I already saw it fromanother point of view, because I already
saw it as an adult. Yeah, I' m not yet, but
as you can see, but alittle twenty- eight years you see things

(38:20):
differently. Yeah, and see againthat it' s happening the same thing
with a girl you know and yousay oysters and they repeat the schematics because
people are poor or they have,that is, a person has to make
a lot of effort not to repeator it has to strive in exact value
I' m going to learn todo it another way. Yeah, you
' re gonna repeat it over andover again and repeat and always look for

(38:44):
the same kind of boyfriends. Sure, yeah, maybe. If I change
my boyfriend' s type, I' ll do a little better. No,
of course, we have to try. You have to try it,
because it worked for me. WhenI changed the boyfriend type, it worked
for me. It' s abit of wood, but we' ve
been together for many years now andwe' ve adapted well to its completely

(39:07):
different way of being from mine.There' s the dma. It'
s like his way of doing thiswrong. No, no, no,
no, it' s just thatgood apheas is bad. They' re
different, they' re different andthings that make you nervous and others are
normal and things like that. Andof course that one is more rational the
other is better. Tomorrow we'll think what we' re doing now

(39:34):
and I' m more rational,more orderly, yes, not orderly physical,
uh, than geometry. I leaveit for others, but mentally ordered,
but there is nothing, yes withgoals to be met. I already
meant unordered physics that I get marriedis a cause, but yes objectives to
say. Well, I want thiswhen and everything I have. That'

(39:58):
s also one thing I' vealready talked about a lot is with my
sister. If we haven' twon it, we haven' t been
given it by anyone. In otherwords, we came from a family completely
unstructured and poor, poor, literalpoor. Yeah, and hey, we
' re not doing so bad.My sister is vice president of a company
in Germany, to say, andmy brother works at the fring for many

(40:21):
years and it' s fine.I mean, we' ve all been
that my sister said we' reprototypes of dope and sculpture family because we
haven' t, because today we' ve gone each step by step,
each one or what they liked eachone on their way. Yeah, but
hey they didn' t give usanything, but we got it from us.
And that also gives you great satisfactionto say that I have earned it
and of course. But even ifit' s not what you' re

(40:44):
telling me about your family, youhaven' t been given anything about taking
this pasta to study this, orI have this question. Of course,
I have been given the most importantthing that has been the freedom to choose
and to win and to run yourway. You' re just clear,
because I did see, for example, when I was in college, I
studied at CEU, I saw peoplearound me that you say mothers. Diversity,

(41:07):
that is, I' m workingall day. I go running to
college because then, when I've just worked, I go to class
and I work and study at thesame time and I already live alone.
I left home with seventeen other years. I mean, brave that means I
worked summers, I earned the money, and I lived all winter with that

(41:28):
money. Yeah, listen little bylittle, then I studied, I don
' t know what you' rebuilding your whole life. Sure, you
know then and you see the peopleof your classmates who came by car and
I don' t know what.And I' m going in the retro
because I don' t have it, because there' s no choice.
Or of course, that is,and you say that they don' t

(41:52):
appreciate what they have. It's just that that' s what everyone
hears the most, of course,but what the biggest difference I value is
everything I have and I value allthe people around me that I' m
lucky to have good friends from mywhole life, whether it' s partners

(42:13):
who have gone through the years formy jobs, who have been interns and
who have then promoted and remain friendsfor a lifetime. Yeah, and people
around me, let' s gofriends and friends more friends. I don
' t know why friends stay friends, since many friends. You have to

(42:35):
take care of her too, ofcourse not, but it' s true
that if you have a good familystructure, although it' s a broken
family like you say because I reallyhaven' t, but exactly because the
labels and from what you say,but you have a good mattress, of
course it' s emotional, becausesometimes you say it' s okay I

(42:57):
can be because I' m goingto work best in summer to not know
where, but I know I'm going back. Sure or even if
you don' t come back andyou' re read, yeah, but
you have a reference, you know, you can be a reference that that
' s for me it' ssuper important clear that you get paid eight
runs and that' s, howmany people there are, aren' t
there and then you' re not, you know, they' re never

(43:21):
for what you want, I mean, it' s never so much for
when people with a lot of moneylook at it I put my son into
boarding school. I' m goingto see him once a year and they
' ve given you an education becausethey' ve paid for it, but
you say oysters is that he's more alone than he who tills only
his future. Yes, yes,it is. That' s why I
' m telling you that' sbut good. Each one knows the way
and in the end, also ifthey give it all done, because you

(43:44):
also take advantage of it or notor something, yes for the best,
you value, you value, youvalue another. Well, in case you
don' t have to work,I don' t work and study and
you' re a man. Obviously, I would study one career after another,
because when here, when I havetime, I want to do fine
arts. I am too, butI wanted to talk to you. I

(44:05):
am. I have the plan soI can see, because you see such
high- handed gifts. When Imove, I' ll go live there.
All right, I' ll makea house for you to come all
worth a vacation, we' llrecord an episode there all on vacation with
an almost guest tea so it's all in its atmosphere and for what

(44:30):
and it' ll be the houseof art I love. I love your
idea. I' m looking forwardto studying art stories, but it'
s true that later, because itcan never be crap, because you work
oysters. And besides, I don' t want to do it online.
I want to witness clearly, students, I don' t want people,
I want to enjoy it exactly.Sure, he doesn' t win the
title. When he exacts, thewhole guy runs the title. I want

(44:52):
to enjoy it. And that happenedto me in pastry shop. I went
to study pastry and enjoyed it becauseit was in the afternoons. It was
one thing that could work. Itwas fun, of course, and then
I learned a trade with my hands. But that time needed to do something
that was creative, because, ofcourse, our work all day was sometimes

(45:14):
a little stressful. Yeah, justthinking about politics all the time is very
complicated. Yeah, although you're actually a mer observant. Okay,
but I' m getting clear allday, he' s wearing this exact
tie. I need color and foundation. I need light and then I tell

(45:36):
you creativity. It is true thatin my home creativity has always been very
important. My uncle was a painterin Paris Hippies love free, of course,
designed fashion shop windows made. Ofcourse we' ve been painting since
we were kids. We were goingto study painting, they were all artists.

(46:01):
So that' s why there's atmosphere, of course, you
know freedom. Yeah, and that' s why we' re all pretty
creative and we all know how todo things with our hands. Of course,
if you had grown up in afamily at the best of accountants and
lawyers, it would surely be withan exact table port and it would be

(46:21):
another thing that I was going toask your stepmother what you called her by
her name. You said, butyou said, I have a stepmother or
a stepmother. It' s notlike the stepmother thing has always seemed so
amaletic to me. And the storyis that I always ask because my job
is that the word stepmother is nowequivalent. Something good, something good is
that it was actually a very goodthing. And when she really died,

(46:45):
even though I didn' t havea deal with her every day, when
I was at the jail because wedidn' t live far and sometimes we
weren' t there, I wonderedhow they were, how they were.
I don' t know what,it' s really that I' ve
had a lot of appreciation for himand when he died, I realized the
amount of price I had for youbecause you started to do a review of

(47:07):
everything that' s happened, becauseof course it really catches your attention because
I found out it was very sudden. I was not old, I was
young and it was like very suddenand suddenly I said Ostras what he thinks
about what it has meant to meand my brother too. I mean,
we were the two of us thatwere close. Ostias said with what he
took care of us, he tookcare of us and such because he really

(47:28):
took care of us very much thatwe were close to the approach with our
father. It was that you livedwith your mother, but we lived with
them for a while. So youdo a lot of short season. Yes,
but we live with them and shereally always cared that we were close

(47:53):
to her father, my father.Yeah, so it' s a shame
it was my father who couldn't handle the situation. But really clear
is that there are times that neither, because it' s like what you
say about stepchildren if they don't want to, no, yes,
but to madras you work, no, but if mothers perste if their friends,

(48:13):
I went to party and I foundthem in the street, that is,
in the bars. It means becauseI would have been ten or fifteen
years older than I would have been. Of course, then, and there
is an age when you are twenty- five or twenty- five and they

(48:35):
are thirty- five. It's more metal and you say it'
s that I met his friends whoknew them that I was going to his
house and so, if I wasgoing to party there I would see them.
Tal. I don' t knowwhat. Of course, Luis'
daughter I don' t know moreor less, that is to say that
I was very lucky to have astepmother, but a lot in fact,
that was fundamental to me, alone, not to all my brothers. Yes,

(48:59):
it was fundamental when it comes tosaying that this can work, not
of course, as stories can alreadywork, but of course it has to
put part, everything, has toput everyone apart. Yes, there are
many, many, many figures thatare part of it, of course,
and if there are, it isthere in struggle and that it does not

(49:21):
want for anything and for nothing clear, obviously, because your mother understood my
mother or not badly put my mothernever again that goes to the contrary,
my mother thought poor where already Ithink that you think much and many also
see, because learn, take away, already will manage. I think it

(49:43):
' s always. I think mymother thought so already. But of course
the mother doesn' t spoil thestepmother long ago, because if you don
' t come with a backpack fullof hate or thoughts is that I don
' t know what I know,I don' t think the mother,
that is, the mother of Joseph' s children, has messed with me.
I don' t think, either, uh, it just doesn'

(50:08):
t matter, or you' rea left- winger and that' s
it, or they ignore you andthen it' s okay, because it
' s already, if not,if not to life. There' s
a struggle, it' s morestruggle between them, their power struggles,
and that' s not it.I' ve been a sucker who'
s not even an extra. Nowthey say an NPC. I think that

(50:32):
paperless character you do know that hedidn' t have, you didn'
t have classes. I participated inthe film, but I didn' t
have a sentence. And now thatit' s over, what' s
your picture of the future? They' re in the equation or not.
No, no, no. Ithink I' ve always thought that when

(50:54):
they' re really older, yes, that' s now they' re
twenty years old and I' malready telling you adolescence, two people at
thirty- five. A thing likethat. I guess people change when they
start having kids. They do andrealize what you need from parents, yes
it is old, they are familybecause maybe, even if they don'
t have children, like other exactones are passed and then they say oysters

(51:19):
and above all, they don't ask the other version, which is
what has called my attention the mostas people, that is, how much
you can be without knowing the otherside of the story, how convinced you
have to be to believe a clearside that is neither good nor bad,
but it is the other, theother side. I have not said that

(51:43):
or that, because no one isgood or bad and no one acts with
evil and not with goodness whenever sayingthe other side of history is as you
see it, saying that life isnot perfect. I mean that life is
precisely anything but perfect and there aretimes that you act in a way that
you don' t do there hasbeen not to do it anymore, but
look not knowing how to do itfrom another exact man. Exactly. There

(52:05):
' s the key. I didit that way, because it was the
way I thought I had to doit. And no one does it either
for evil, or for screwing upor things like that. So I don
' t see I don' tknow my life plan either is that I
have a very long- term lifeplan, more than studying that I'
ve always liked that house. Ilike it I' m reminding you.
So my plan is that, whenI don' t have to go to

(52:29):
work every day anymore, I'm not going to sit in a chair
waiting for not because I' lldo new things when I don' t
have to live here anymore, becausemaybe I can live somewhere else. Of
course, I can go to thefield or I can go where I want
to, where I can catch youat that exact moment. So my plan

(52:50):
is, that' s our plan, because in fact, we' re
thinking about making ourselves a country house, having an open space, something that
we can' t do here inValencia. Sure, then let' s
go live and the house will beopen and welcome to everyone, for whoever

(53:10):
wants to have a place in thathouse, because in fact, we go
with one that is invited, becausemaybe it' s clear. Then guests,
you' ll all be, ofcourse, invited. Joseph' s
children, of course, you knowwho wants to come there, open it
will be for everyone. But Imean, look what you said that in

(53:31):
case you hear this episode, thatif you have Tiktok, this podcast is
squeezing it in Tiktok, then maybeyou hear something, well, well,
if you hear it, home doesn' t, but listen already has that,
because I think that in the end, that is what you said,
we' re going to make aguest house just in case that is,
I think there' s always likea clear door, open of itself,

(53:52):
of course, because when you getolder and it happened to me, yes,
I' ve rationalized everything I've told you now as an adult.
When you' re young. Youdon' t think anything of that.
You think about tomorrow where we're going. Yeah, at most
you know how tomorrow we get out. Of course it' s true.
Yeah, you think that you don' t think what' s gonna happen

(54:16):
to my future, where I'm gonna get in life. That'
s it or toddies not then.I understand that right now is not the
best time in a few years,when people do it you tell yourself why
everything happened. Sure and I understandmy father with the poor, poor man
who was I understand, I understandmy mother you know and I understand my

(54:37):
stepmother you know, I mean,now I understand them, because now I
' m more grown up. It' s just that I say it in
the small voice. Well, you' re older, I' m not
older. You' re clear,in the end, you' re a
lot older than when your stepmother waswith your father, because your stepmother will.

(54:58):
It was yes, yes, yes? Yeah? Yeah? Yes,
yes, much more than it hasalready happened that suddenly, of course,
passing the time, I happen tosay oysters I' ve been with my
stepson longer, that is, myh has been with me longer than without
me, because, of course Imet him when I was four years old.
Now she' s 14. Ofcourse yes, but in the end
time, but you have been ableto influence in that sense to say yes,

(55:19):
but because it is different, itgives me the feeling. Yeah,
yeah, well, like, whenyou adopt a child, yeah, right
for you, it' s likea baby. Sure, that' s
it. You know that adopting akid who' s ten years old,
who already comes with a thousand problemsbehind, with a s in three parents,

(55:40):
a week or so, then that' s a lot harder. Of
course, it' s much harder. And it might work out for you,
and you might not get it wrong. Of course, and you might
not just get it right. Youcan say that they are not part of
my family at the moment, butbecause they do not want to. You
know the moment they want, becausethe moment they want, the doors are
open. My house is at thedoor always open for everyone. That'

(56:05):
s right, that' s aclear fact. So, hear Anna,
thank you very much for coming tothe king. I didn' t love
your story. Thank you. SoI heard, if I didn' t
think I' d serve you because, like, I' m a stepmother.
Well, you' re and you' re not It' s just
that the stepmother thing isn' tidyllic. Sure, there' s no

(56:25):
paper, you haven' t signedany paper. Or exact stepmother, I
stepmother, I have to do this, this and this and cook in a
cauldron. And if you don't, I mean, so nothing,
thank you very much. The kingis not open to your whole family.
Yeah, well, you get alist. Yes, and thank you very
much. He' s already waitingfor your open Valtea house will be for

(56:49):
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