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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's time for Dialogue Conspiracy with political research specialist May Brussel,
who for three years is shared with US for decades
research into political assassinations and abuses of power in this country.
Her program relates to the news of the week, to
emerging evidence about the conspiracy, which allegedly maintains by force
its control over the legislative and judicial processes in America.
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And now here's May.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good Afternoon. This is May Brussel and Carmel, California. It's
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and five in July the fourteenth,
nineteen seventy five. Out here this afternoon, I'm trying to
survive various assaults, one upon my head, which I had
five weeks ago. I'm still light headed. My head was
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I was knocked down and my head was stomped on.
Had surgery on my job this last week. And we'll
have some more in the next week's poison oak, mosquito.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Bites, and flea bites. But if that isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I wake up on Sunday morning in Carmel to find
that Major General my Hugh Wan, one of the men
who ordered the murder of DM, lives in Monterey California,
and the assassination teams at least overtly seemed to come
to move right close to your front yard. I remember
the first dialogue conspiracy I did four years ago in
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the spring of seventy one, when the Pentagon papers broke,
and I explained that the truth someday would come out
that the CIA was involved in the plans to murder DM,
that they were behind that assassination. And I just noticed
yesterday in our paper that a South Vietnamese general who
was behind the orders UH to kill DM, now lives.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In our neighborhood. He's living with his sister in Monterey, California.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The summer woes I classify that, I guess, along with
the mosquitoes and the poison oak and everything else, is
something that we have to live with and understand and
see how many of these Vietnamese assassins are brought into
this country, those related to drug importations and the Phoenix program.
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I read when I came into the KLRB that there's
a memo in the Rockefeller Report to remove mister Colby
as they had a central intelligence agency because of the
assassination of thirty or forty thousand persons, in the Phoenix operation.
And at the same time that the suggestion of the
whisper is to remove mister Colby, we're importing the very
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people that did the assassinations. This is one of the
inconsistencies of our government which I cannot understand or the
Congress and the Senate to allow these things to happen.
We should now bring war criminals into this country until
we find out what happened over there, on what basis
they had for murdering these people, and maybe they should
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stand trial in their own country, as some Germans did Nurremberg.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not enough of them, but some of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I did want to talk today about mister Butterfield being
named as a possible link of the White House to
the CIA by Fretcher Prouty this week, but I'll have
to do more of that next week because I have
some other matters that I think are more important. I
did mention in my Realist article two years ago in
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the summer of seventy three, the plans to remove Richard
Nixon out of the White House and that if necessary,
he would be assassinated, And in that same article I
brought up the subject of who would assassinate him I
talked about mister al Long of the Secret Service, who
worked with James McCord and Alexander Butterfield, that knew every
room that Richard Nixon was in and the bugging devices,
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and that the lectures I gave in the last couple
of years, I've said that Nixon could be removed by
the White House tapes. This would be the role that
Alex Butterfield would have and could have, and he didn't
have to be assassinated. Once assassination money could be linked
to the Watergate team, they couldn't go ahead and murder
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him because payments had already been made to murder Richard Nixon,
and by producing these tapes, Richard Nixon was sure to
be out of office.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Alex Underfield was on.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The national television denying his role in this political operation.
But I also listed in that same article how you
recognize espionage operations Clindestine operations, and one of the ways
is the constant denial, such as John Mitchell denying he
knew the people involved in the Watergate, and another is disavowal.
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Mister Butterfield can say I didn't know e Howard Hunt
at all, but it would be very hard to believe
that because under the jury testimony grand jury testimony, E.
Howard Hunt testified in December of seventy three that he
had a separate recorder machine and a bugging device in
his own desk put in by Al Long of the
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Secret Service inside the White House. And if Wong was
receiving the tapes from Hunt was receiving the tapes from
the White House from the President of the United States.
And Butterfield was in charge of these operations and the
Secret Service operation there of the taping, he must have
known that E. Howard Hunt was also taping inside the
White House if the machinery was set up by Al Wong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Who worked with Butterfield.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
There are many other reasons for knowing that the men
would probably have to know each other. But the disavowal
I don't know you is easy on national television. It
isn't in a courtroom under sworn testimony, and any perjury
wouldn't be prosecuted anyway. The article that broke about the
CIA infiltrating the White House mentioned that they infiltrated the
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Office of Management budget In that same article in The Realist,
on page twenty three, under institutions to dismantle. I listed
the Office of Management Budget and I also listed Dale
DLI the Drug and Law Enforcement Agency, and this was
also mentioned this week as being infiltrated by the CIA.
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Alexander Butterfield is the agent from the White House who
may have been under the salary of the Air Force.
He was in the Air Force, and Victor Marcatty and
various persons in the CIA have said that you can
still be in the CIA and lose your relationship to
the agency and take on a new identity. So at
the time of the White House tapes being disclosed, he
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was in quotes in the Air Force, but he was
also sent to the Department of Federal Aviation. He had
been deputy assistant to Nixon. Then he began to head
Federal Aviation December nineteenth and Dorothy Hunt's plane crash was
December the eighth, and it was a very quick transfer
over to transportation to investigate the murder of a very
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high offerative of the CIA. If he didn't work for
the CIA, it's interesting that he was investigating or on
top of the assassination of one of their highest operatives.
There also was a comment about Dale as I say
the Drug Enforcement and there was a comment or affidavits
the CI was infiltrated by one of the vice presidents
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of CBS. It's interesting to note that Michelle Clark of
CBS was on flight five five three when Dorothy Hunt
was murdered, and that CBS ordered her body cremated immediately
without any word of the families consent her otherwise.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And one has to ask if a high CIA.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Operative is assassinated, why is a coworker or somebody with
her cremate and how to CBS have the authority? And
this is where the links of the CIA infiltrating these agents,
agencies and offices becomes important because they're being able to
manipulate not only people, but the evidence after the crashes
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or the deaths take place. Also working for DALE, the
drug enforcement agency which the documents they were infiltrated by
the CIA, was Harold Metcalf. Now he sat on the
same plane as missus Hunt, Dorothy Hunt, on flight five
five three, and he told the pilot that he was
carrying a gun and he was assigned to seat B seventeen.
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Coincidence with the new song popular song about B seventeen.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mister Metcalf sat on seat.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
B seventeen next to the stewardess, and he wore an
outfit that would allow him to leave the airplane. He
sat near the food galley, and after the crash he
was wearing a jumpsuit. Former military intelligence investigator Heyah identified
himself as Harold Metcalf, who was an overseas CIA parachute spy.
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So represented from CBS was on that fatal air crash.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
An aeroplane.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Somebody from Dale Drug Enforcement was on that fatal aeroplane
and a member of the CIA, and then mister Butterfield
was sent over to Federal Aviation. Also in these documents
of the CI in fil trading the White House, they
mentioned that an agent infiltrated the Commerce Department. But two
years ago I said that mister Butterfield was a very
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important man to the whole removal of Richard Nixon from
the White House, the way he was slipped out of
power to make way for Joel Ford and Rockefeller, who
was the agent in a Commerce department that they are
admitting now there was one agent.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
We know there're more. First of all, the Commerce.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Department handled all the funds and budget for the Central
Intelligence Agency in Virginia. It goes under the Commerce Department.
But if Butterfield was important there, who was another agent?
One of those whose name you may not remember is
Ed Faylor Failo R. And there are articles about Ed
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Faylor July twelfth, nineteen seventy three in San Francisco Examiner.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm sure they're on the wire. Services.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He worked for CREEP, the Committee to re elected President,
and he set up a shop across the alley where
the Democratic Convention headquarters were.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And he now is a high official in the Bureau.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Of Census in the Commerce Department. But we know he
worked with CREEP as an es Vonage agent. He operated
from the Fountain Blast spot in Miami Beach. He ran
electronic recording and transmitting devices to be used in the
hotel headquarters. And at the time he was a special
assistant to campaign director John Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
His office has had a rent a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Cop that they sent out. They had cops that they rented.
There were guards at the door.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was a.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Secret espionage operation across from the Democrats, with twenty to
forty people in the operation. Definitely Hush Hush was seven
or eight guards. The Democrats wanted one hundred rooms extra
rooms at the Fauna Blau that were suddenly withdrawn from
then two weeks before their own convention down in Miami.
The Republicans would have one later, and it was soon
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learned that mister working for the Interior Department at that
time he's now in Commerce, had taken those rooms and
charged them to the White House, so that the Democrats
couldn't use those hundred rooms. Faylor bugged the Democratic offices.
He sent a message to Nixon San Clementy twenty four
hours in advance that Eagleton's name would be on the
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list of those heading the vice presidential nomination. And Faylor
also knew at that time that Eagleton had a drinking problem,
and there was a quotation this article was very very
happy at the nomination of Eggleton. He went on to
see the demonstration at the Dural Hotel of the hippies
that Falor said couldn't have been stage, but which Frank
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Mankowitz said the demonstration looked phony. Now Faylor was rewarded
for his hatch at job by becoming head of the
Commerce Department the Social and Economic Statistics Administration, And this
was in Jack Anderson's column June twenty first, nineteen seventy three,
that he headed a mysterious attack group, that he was
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a political hatchet man, and that mister Faylor then went
on as his reward for being a hatchet man. This
is Jack Anderson to head the Commerce, Social and Economic
Statistic Department and his budget there is one hundred million
dollars and he controlled seven thousand employees. And part of
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this UH Department of Commerce is he will supervise the
Census Bureau and other vital statistic units and they there
was an allegation that he was put there because of
his UH clandestine work to make economic picture look rosy
for Richard Nixon. But that's a tremendously important UH job.
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And who else was in the Commerce department? Another agent
was placed in the Commerce department immediately and not coincidentally
with mister Faylor. Tom Charles Houston was put there, and
you know he had the terrible Euston plan, the military
police plan that John Dene smuggled out of the White
House and the control of blacks and minorities and genealogy.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Through the Commerce Department. Is a very.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Sensitive physician, and this is how the infiltration of the
CIA takes over our various Cabinet physicians. Maurice stands with
Secretary of Commerce before he left there to go to
creep and then it turned out that he had given
illegal CIA money to the reelection of Richard Nixon. I
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have an article dated June fifteenth, nineteen seventy three that
Marie stands built up a one million dollar fund out
of taxpayers' money while at the Commerce Department to aid
Nixon's re election. You see how important it is to
weed out these CIA people that are taking funds such
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as the money the CIA sent to Greece that I
talked about last week of the week before, and then
they give it to the military dictator there, who gives
it to Tom Poppas who comes home to give it
to Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew when Marie stands with
Secretary of Commerce, and it's alleged that he took one
million in taxpayers money while at the Commerce and it
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went into the re election of Richard Nixon, and again
they talked about CI and filtrating Office of Management budget
that was run by roy Ash from Litton Industries, and
it was that office that was a conduit of money.
Roy Ash's office, the Litton industries to overthrow Greece and
put in a military dictatorship, and the Office of Management
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Budget has been a conduit and does work closely with
the CIA. So the story of Butterfield being the link
to the Central Intelligence Agency that came out by Fletcher
Prouty has to be taken seriously because mister Prouty is
a very conservative, fairly straight person, and when he says something,
believe me, he's checked it out. I know that there
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are very few of these allegations that he's made, considering
how much he knows about what's taking place in Washington.
And he claims that Butterfield was the CIA contact in
the White House, and it's consistent with the fact that
there were assassination plans to get Richard Nixon, and when
they were linked to the Watergate entry and the funding
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from the Mexican money to Houston to Miami, to Washington
to New York, then the assassination was called off and
Richard Nixon was taken out of office because of the tapes.
I have a news article here that the major networks
are going to back off the JFK assassination conspiracy. I
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don't know if this is too early to announce it.
But I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I announced a few weeks ago, a month ago, that
I was going to do a series continuously about CBS
until they put their documentary on about Gerald Ford and
the Portrait of the Assassin. And I have done several
parts of that, and every week I say, we'll go
back to Joel Ford's book, and last week we did
a little bit of it, and hopefully next week we'll
get back to it. But here's a news bull and
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then saying the major networks back off on the JFK
assassination conspiracy. Three weeks ago we reported that CBS and
NBC Television Networks we're doing extensive research for one hour
specials on the JFK murder. We have now been updated
from CBS sixty minutes has discontinued their research, while the
attorneys at MBC advise the network not to run a
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completed segment of the Tomorrow Show. Now, the Tomorrow Show
was Tom Snyder with a gentleman named mister Morris. R.
Morris from Tennessee who did work into the gangland connections
of Maffage chief Carlos Marcella with a political conspiracy and
with his chief lieutenants, David Ferry and Eugene Braiding, and
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mister Morris made a tape to be on c NBC,
but the show has been canceled and NBC will not
show it. But it's interesting that CBS, I hope, will
not go through at the Gerald Ford book and will
keep hammering away in the weeks to come with evidence
to prove that they would only be covering up the
cover up if they continue with these kinds of lies.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And now so much.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Information is coming out about the Kennedy conspiracy that will
make CBS look really bad.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
When I came back from.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
New York where I was there, I spoke to mister
Moses from CBS and Harry Moses, and he had been
in Dallas for a few weeks and he was doing
a documentary at Oswald and he asked me for some information,
and a lot of the researchers were very co operative
with him, and I was the only one, according to
what I've talked to them, the ones that I've talked to,
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I was the only one who said I really wasn't
interested in talking to mister Harry Moses.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I told him why.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I told him that he takes witnesses and ask the
wrong questions, and he doesn't ask the right questions of
the right witnesses, and that CBS had sold the Vietnam
War and Cambodian lyos and the Holocaust in Southeast Asia,
plus the Kennedy story that Oswald did it alone, and
that I wasn't interested in cooperating in any of their
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movies or any of their television work, because for my part,
I just boycott it totally and tell other people to
do the same. And I gave them examples and read
him documents that I have in the house on why
they pervert stories, how they do it, and that it
was a very serious matter and I didn't want to
be involved. Then last week I talked to two people
at CBS, one is Bernie Bernbaum and one Jan Bartel's
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that were supposed to do a thirty minute segment of Oswald,
and I again read them a lot of information on
the telephone. I sent them one document from my files
and gave them another side of the story of Lee
Harvey Oswald that they have never dealt into, never dared
to admit or investigate.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And I'm very very pleased.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I hope it's true that they're not going to do
these shows because no show is better.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Than the lie. At least they won't.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hamper the researchers and try to cover up like they
did before they could do a show using my research.
I said, just once, why wouldn't you try using these documents,
Why wouldn't you once give an exploratory show using the
information that can be documented as much as anything you
have that you put on your shows previously. And they
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weren't about to do that or to come out to
California and use any of these documents. But I'll be
very happy if they just call off their shows. That's
what I wanted, That's what I'm working for.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Right to them, tell them nothing is better than lies,
and support the no show theory, and let it go
at that. There's another news broadcast getting to another subject.
A detective agency has been working in Houston, Texas and
with headquarters in Puerto Rico, and they claim they've cracked
the John Kennedy assassination. The firm is known as Security Associate.
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It's international, and they said their clients, who they won't name,
hired them two years ago to look into the Kennedy assassination. Now,
this is interesting about the clients that they won't name
because I'm going to speculate and throw out a theory.
I do it all the time after I have enough
documentation to a certain point. The man they've hired is
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Pepper Crowder Croowder. He says he has considerable new information
proving that Oswald did not shoot the president or anybody
else in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
He said that certain federal agencies were involved in the assassination.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Theory and that their evidence proves that the single bullet
theory is reported by the Warren Commission is incorrect. This
agency is known as Security Associates International. They have done
work in Houston for two years with oil and chemical
industry and they're a reputable firm. They were even written
up in the Houston Post. A friend of mine and
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a radio fan sent me a letter this week in
the Houston Post that they are going into this matter. Well,
people who live in Houston could get an earfull because
John Conley had strong links into Houston, Texas at the
time of the assassination. There was a specific bank that
was used in Houston, and I have the name of
it that was involved with the Kennedy assassination, and it
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would link to the Watergate money that came from Mexico
up to Houston at the time of the Watergate arrests.
Besides the bank links, there is the firm of Brown
and rut major contractors that built the tiger cages in Vietnam,
made huge profits in Vietnam War.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And a person who used that agency, as has covered
George de Moornschild. I'll talk more about him later if
I have time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Was Lee Harvey, Oswald's CIA contractor babysitter, and every few
weeks George de Moronschild would leave de Goyer McNaughton. He
had an office as an engineer oil engineer, and Degoyer
McNaughton hired another agent, Paul reg Out Rodsky, who had
close ties in Houston too. With these people, Demorenschild went
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back and forth to Houston for his assignments and his money.
He was the man, as I say, in control with Oswald.
He left Texas in April sixty three and didn't show back.
He's teaching in Texas now, but he disappeared when the
assassination plans got thicker and heavier. He didn't have a
role in the placing in delay Plaza. Other than helping
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introduce Leon Marina Oswald to Ruth Payne, who had placed
Oswald in the Texas school book Depository, De Moorinschild, who
was going to Houston, Texas for his money and directions
every few weeks regularly, was the only link besides Marina
Oswald to the rifle that Leavy Oswald never saw or
allegedly that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He even owned.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And he also is the only link to the major
General Walker shooting, which Oswald didn't do. Demornschild was very
important to the cover story, and I hope that the
links in Houston, Texas will go to George de Warrenschield,
Paul Raggattawarski, Leon Giroski. Giroski was head of the Anderson
Foundation of the CIA. He was on the board of directors.
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He was an attorney for them. He was on the
Warren Commission. His job was to represent the state of
Texas in so far as the Warren Commission is concerned.
Houston is important for their bank, for Leon Girosky, for
the Lynks of Brown and rut And let's see what
they come out with later. But these are what I
think are the Houston links, the important news to Lynx
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Houston links. So when this company comes out with their report,
which will be very soon, those will be the links
that I think you will find the Mexican money and
as I say, the banking Leon Giorsky, Brown, George de
Morenschield and Paul Raggattirovsky. Now speculation who is behind this information?
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Who's bringing down the federal government?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
There was a newsible of the night by Ron Dullams.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
If you really find out who killed the President Kennedy,
the American government will should be shaken to its foundations.
Who's behind the Houston group exposing the federal government? I
would speculate. I would just speculate that even though this
is a security association that has done business for oil
and chemical industries, that it has to be a branch
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of the US organized crime group that got infiltrated from
both working in Dallas and in Houston and down in
Puerto Rico and near Cuba.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That I said, peacefully, there's a peaceful solution.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
To opening up the John Kendy assassination or the fact
that Howard US doesn't exist, or the use of the
CIA for domestic assassinations and using Howard Use organization as.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
A front for some of them.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I believe that a branch of organized crime, such as
the names that come through all of this, as these
exposed as come, is going to bring down the intelligence
agencies that use them.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And if we look.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Far into it, and I've predicted murders entanglement between the
CI and organized crime, that some element of that branch
is now servicing and exposing and putting up money to
expose the people who hired them or used them, or
use Jack Ruby, or ask them to help with the
getaway cars. And the role that organized crime had in
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the Kenny assassination was the use of Jack Ruby and
the flying away of the real assassins and the teams
of assassins, and that was their branch. Each person in
the intelligence agency was assigned a need to know basis,
and that's where the organized crime came into the use
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of Jack Ruby and his family and shooting Lee Harvey
Oswald to conceal the real people who planned the assassination.
Crawdaddy has a cover this month an article called the
Whole Earth Conspiracy Catalog. That's the work that I was
doing at the time that Watergate broke. I was putting
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together and still want to do what I considered the
Whole Earth conipiracy Catalog. I'd asked Stuart Brandt if he
would help me, the man who got out the other
Whole Earth books.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He wasn't interested.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And Paul Kratzer sent me this article today from San
Francisco and he.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Said, it's a shame they're doing your idea.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I've spoken of the Whole Earth Conspiracy Catalog, and it
is a project. I want to do various books that
are out three to four hundred books and organizations and theories,
and put together a resume of the work that's been
done so far. This is about a ten page article.
It's got the addresses of various people you can write to.
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It's got some important questions to ponder, questions which I've
asked on the air and I've asked in my article.
Some of it is a put down. There's eight questions
stalking the wild conspiracy. You eight questions to ponder. It's
got eight theories to ignore, and it's got the list
of various organizations. It describes me Brussel writing for the
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Realist as the con conspiracyologists. If they were ranked like
records in a billboard, would be about number eight with
a bullet for sheer notoriety alone. Brussel has built quite
a reputation researching the common patterns and personal in personnel
involved in political subterviews, extending beyond assassinations to the SLA Watergate,
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police provocateurs and other political dramas. Her work leaves many
answers unquestioned. That may be a put down. I take
it as a compliment because I've given the answers and
I've found the research.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And for every person.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's gone in to investigating my wild what you call
your wild allegations, the answers that were asked filled in.
I gave the conclusions and they were the right quest questions,
and the answers came in and they filled in the
details of a lot of the research that I've done.
So if the answers are there and they're in questioned,
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then those of you who listen take the answers and
do your own research and fill it and find out
any area or wild speculation that's far off and see
where it leads you, and you will be shocked to
find that it lines up with the actual documentation and evidence.
I feel that some of the things I'm saying are
too far out for my coworkers and researchers to comprehend
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or understand. But I did write to Mark Lane and
Richard Pompkin and Don Freed this week and ask them
for a letter of apology for some of the sneers
and remarks they made after Boston at the conference there
in lieu of the material that Richard Popkin is sending
out as factual information now that I was trying to
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explain to them in Boston and they wouldn't use.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'll read to you a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'd mentioned it last week or two weeks ago, a
news report by Richard Popkind, one.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Of my fellow researchers, and this is one of the areas.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
He has a news bullet in this week on the
new information that a Puerto Rican whose name I have
and I'll withhold it until he breaks it or until
I have further permission to release it, was arrested in
the Philippines for allegedly plotting to assassinate President Marcos. I
mentioned this before on the air, but I.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Want to fill in more of the details.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
This gentleman was administered truth theorem because he was listed
as an illegal alien down in the Philippines, and in
the course of hypnotic sessions, he said that he was
a pilot for the Bay of Pigs, that his plane
was shot down, and that the CIA rescued him. And
when the CIA rescued him, they didn't take him to
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a normal hideaway.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
They took him to a special training.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Place where we came part of in their hands, and
they turned him into a program killer. Remember last week
we talked about the news article from the London Times
that the CIA was running our Navy intelligence two schools
for known murderers. They would take murders out of stockader
people killed in war, and they trained them to be
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political assassins. And one of the schools and in San Diego,
and one was in Naples.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I guess that was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago
in Dialogue Conspiracy, I.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Talked about that Navy intelligence school, one in San Diego,
one in Naples that taught known killers to kill more.
And you could see that after Bad Pigs and the
humiliation and the defeat, that these people were natural to
be used for the Kenny assassination, to get even with
John Kennedy now pop guy and alleges now to have
thousands of pages of documents about this particular person in
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the particular operations, and he said that the CIA at
that point turned him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Into a program killer.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And he claims that he was involved in the Kennedy assassination,
that he was taken to the dal Text building which
is directly behind where John Kennedy's head was, and that
seven gunmen were used in the assassination.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He remembered two of the names of people that were
with him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One of them he remember was Clay Shaw and the
other was a name which is new to conspiracy theorists
in terms of John Kennedy assassination. But the name came
up and I have it, and again I'll wait for
Richard Popkin to put it on the air or I
called him and asked permission for me to use on
my show, because the name is a man who worked
with Fred LaRue in the Watergate affair and had espionage
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links that I had catalog going to the wall is
killing and this particular man name, he's very prominent in
the White House. He was part of the Southern strategy.
And the name of the man, the second man who
was with him is the name of a person who
later appears involved with the financing of the shooting of
George Wallace. The name it may not be the same person, but.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It was the name.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Now, this man said that he had instructions to shoot
John Kennedy and that he'd be sitting next to a
woman in this particular car, and that a signal came
from a building directly across. There'd be a flash in
his face with a mirror when he was to shoot.
And this is the important part of the pop geind document,
which I think is very important.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He says he was.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Taken to a Midwestern hotel with a middle aged woman
who spoke with a German accent, and the middle aged
woman operated under a small business cover, and that he
was programmed to forget all the details, and that he
was trained like a zombie and certain words like the
word blue would set him off. Now I have information
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of a project Blue on Moderatey Peninsula by the Nazis
men wearing Nazi armbands that work and Ford Order were
out there a few years ago, and it was part
of a plan for eventual martial law or a takeover,
and they were to put chemicals into the water contaminate
in this country, and that code word was project glue.
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And the CIA has another Project blue that I have
to look up, but I remember that. But his word
here for shooting. He was clued with a word like
the word blue. He was programmed then to forget all
the details. After the shooting, he was taken to this
motel by this woman and he was trained, as I say,
to respond to these words. Now, the woman wore a
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poka dot dress similar to the one worn by the
woman with Sirhin sir Han. When Robert Kennedy was shot,
a woman of poka dot.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Dress yelled, we killed him. We killed him, and she fled.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And this woman that programmed him also had a poka
dot dress, he says. The hypnotist or did the work
was an agent in the Philippines, and he wrote Richard Popkin,
and Rocher Popkin had the letter filed away unopened, and
he was in England teaching or he was away he's
had in nineteen seventy and didn't respond an answer to
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the person.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But when he came up across the letter, he wrote
to them. And now the document backs of the research.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And I wish that Richard Popkin had opened the letter
before he went to the Boston Conference because instead of
these experts sitting down and acting like I was a
bunch of crazy among these great professors, if they had
listened at that time and put them together with the
work I had, they would have been.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Much farther ahead. At that time.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Mark Lane claimed that I was saying the researchers back
twenty years because I talked about behavior modification, because I
talked about women accompanying.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Men to do these jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I know in California, mister Fraser and Honolula, Lawrence Kwan
who shot at Kgo, mister Camber, we're in the company
of women famous inventors. The United States governor has taken
their invention and they put women on to turn them
into zombies. Once they took their inventions, and they get
millions of dollars in contracts invent what these people already had,
and they reduced them to vegetables. And I talked about
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the use of these women taking these men and programming them,
and that zombies were.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Involved in the assassination.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So now mister Popkind has taken this material to the
Church Committee and he said there's approximately seventy zombies walking around.
And as I say, I wrote to my coworkers and
asked them, would they be interested in an apology for
the allegations that I made and the names that are
being used now, and see the relationship of these to
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what I was saying to the documents that they're just
finding because I also have documents, but they don't come.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And see my documents, and they didn't think it was
hardly credible.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
As a matter of fact, the News Service says that
if Richard Popkind had serviced in nineteen seventy with his information,
he would have been discounted as crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
But in nineteen seventy five, in.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
January, when this kind of information was brought out, it
was still too early. And now in July seventy five,
the media and the Congress members of Congress are examining it,
and we're in a different ballgame. And the two big
stories of the nineteen fifties, sixties and seventies is the
mind control and the political assassination, and the relationship of
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each working together. Now, who is doing all this mind control?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Who was behind it?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I believe that they can be pinpointed. I think the
hospitals could be pinpointed.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I have referred to the book where we.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Controlled written by a pseudonym Lincoln Lawrence on the possible
areas where Lee Harvey Oswald was controlled at a hospital
in the Soviet Union. I also wanted to read before
I get too much into that, in case we don't
have time. I wanted to read a letter which I
didn't bring last week, but which I talked about on
the air and didn't have on time in my files
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to go through to bring to KLRB. I mentioned the
link of the Nazis to Lee Harvey Oswald that I
wrote to Simon Weisenthal, the man in West Germany who's
try trying to find Nazi war criminals, to find if
the Alexander Zeiger ran the radio factory in Russia in
Minsk was a Nazi criminal who left Europe in thirty
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eight and went back in fifty five in linked with
Lee Harvey Oswald, because I found memos that LeAnn marine
Oswald took documents out of the radio factory in Minsk
and asking for the daughters of mister Zaiger to be
taken to Argentine and members of the Warrant Commission, including
Alan Dulles, were aware.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
That the subject was brought up.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The CIA could be used to send these girls to Russia,
from Russia to Argentine, and I wanted to read the
letter on these Nazis. The reason I was concerned is that,
for many reasons that after a Yendi was murdered and
Chile was put back in the hands of Itt, the
Nazi surface there. Walder Ralph, who was a former colonel
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in the Nazi SS Security Office in Berlin, dealt with
mass Jewish extermination. He fled Germany, went down to Chile,
and now after the military Hunter was put in power,
he became the advisor on prison administration. He was named
in the Nuremberg War crimes, and now he's in Chile,
where there were signs immediately after the hunt to hang
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a Jew on every lamppost. That may explain why mister
Pinochet will not allow the United Nations Commission on Human
Rights to investigate in prison and torture. The former official
of the SS for Adolf Hitler, runs the prisons down
in Chile today. The CIA was responsible for overthrowing Greece
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in nineteen sixty seven. Immediately after Greece was overthrown, German
Nazis surface Premier George Papadopolis, a wartime collaborator with the Nazis,
was put in control of the Greek government by our Cia.
When Muzadah was kicked out of Iran in fifty four,
thanks to our Cia, the son of the Nazi regime,
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the Show of Iran was put back into power. His
father was a known Nun sympathizer, and now the Shaws
in full control of the oil fields of the Middle
East and Persian Gulf thanks to Richard Helms and the
Central Intelligence Agency and knowing that Nazis were behind and
working with Lee Harvey Oswald in the Dallas Fort Worth area,
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and Lee Harvey Oswald planned to go to Germany. If
you don't know that in nineteen fifty eight fifty nine
he wrote to Albert Schweizer's school in Switzerland that he
wanted to go to Germany. He said in quotes, to
broaden my knowledge of German and live in a healthy
atmosphere and good moral atmosphere. Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend
and strong man was George de Moorenschild, the sophisticated man
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whose name was von Moreenschild, who admitted in the forties
he worked with his cousin mister Baron Maydahl and known
as a known pro Nazi. De Morenschild was apprehended at
Corpus Christi during World War II, followed from New York
Damn to Corpus Christie in Texas and accused of making
photographs there of the Arnassis pass Us Coast Guard station
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as a possible Nazi spy. So I found the letter
because the Nazis in Greece, the Nazis in Dallas, and
I have more information in the Nazis in Dallas Fort
Worth that I've used. I'll read to you the Nazis
being back sympathized as in Iran and around the world.
The actual agents from the SS, not their children, not
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their followers, but the actual agents. I brought with me
a letter asking mister Wisenthal defined Zeiger because CBS and
Daniel Shore last week had an interview with the man
who saw documents that the rvy Oswald was in intelligence
in the radio factory in Minsk. And I'm going to
read you now when I wrote in sixty eight, because
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the document in seventy five is just servicing. March twenty second,
nineteen sixty eight, I wrote to mister Simon Wisenthal, well
known for finding German.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Nazis the fled Europe after World War Two.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Dear mister Wisenthal, are you familiar with the name of
a person living or deceased with the falling background. Mister
Alexander Zaeger is the eger in quotes, supposed to be
a Polish Jew. He's from Argentina. He went there from
Poland in nineteen thirty eight to Argentine. He returned to
the Soviet Union in nineteen fifty five. He is supposed
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to be, in quotes, a qualified engineer. He's the head
of the department of a radio factory in Minsk, Russia.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
The reason I'm asking is a following.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I have been researching the assassination of President Kennedy since
November nineteen sixty three. There is evidence of a strong
possible link of the Galen operation in Nazi Germany to
our Cia, to the nest of Nazis in both Argentina
and in Dallas, Texas, all of Lee Harvey Oswalt's contacts
in the Dallas area with right wing immigrant community. The
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strongest link of Oswalt's connection with Marina Oswald and the
meeting up with Marina comes in Moscow and Minsk and
centers on the foreman and manager of the actor where
Oswald worked in Minsk. His former engineer is described as
a Polish Jew who returned after the war. It is
hard to visualize the Soviet Union importing this refugees from Argentina.
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Is it easy to imagine that he entered the Soviet
Union under the name of a deceased Jew who died
in Poland. I'm writing the Soviet Embassy in Washington about
mister Zayger. I wanted to wait your answer. Among Lee's
possessions in volume sixteen, page sixty of the Commission Hearings
before the Commission on the Assassination of John Candy is
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the name of mister Petrik Kov from the Argentine Embassy
in Russia. This may seem a little complicated if you're
not familiar with the material. Many years at much work
goes behind what I'm telling you, and the Soviet Union
themselves may not be aware to this moment the relationship
of mister Zayger to the Oswalds. I hope to hear
from you soon, Regards May Brussel. I received an answer
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from mister Weisenshal. It was David April sixteenth nineteen sixty eight,
that he was in receipt.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Of my letter, but he could not help me.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The name of Alexander Zaiger, he says, was not familiar
to me, and I have no possibility to check it out.
If there's anything else I can do for you, please
contact me.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
That was the questionnaire I was asking about the possible
links of mister Zaiger being the Nazi that.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Worked with Oswald.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
There was that book I mentioned before where we controlled
about Lee Harvey Oswald and his being hired in the
Minsk radio factory and being a CIA agent, suggested that
he was an espionage agent. And in this book the
links of the Kennedy assassination go between Dallas, Texas and
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Argentina and the motive for the assassination. One of the
motives is explained in where we Controlled how the New
York Stock Market was manipulated the day that John Kennedy
was assassination and a person Anthony day Angelus was chosen
to rock the world commodity market. Millions of dollars were
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exchanged won and lost. And where we Control goes into
the links of the German Bund and a corporation called
Bunch and born with the German tones. The link was
from Texas and it implied a fore knowledge of the
Kennedy assassination to people in Argentine, Argentina. And so I
did want to read to this letter that I was on.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
The spot working on that back in sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And I think if that's pursued, we'll find strong links
of the CIA to the Nazis, the Nazis of Germany.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
We can't do very much in forty five minutes a week.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
But we'll cover more each week because it is a
serious situation. It isn't a dead issue that ended with
World War Two. And as we talk about CIA and assassinations,
we have to think in terms of future genocide, black unemployment, race.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Wars, a food war, wars, weather wars, and.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Ask ourselves when did it begin? And did it begin
when Lee Harvey Oswald was named as le Patsy Jack
ruby Shaw him? Did all this begin in Dallas November
twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well that's it for this week. Goes faster me.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't know about you, but it goes faster me,
And I'll see you next week on Dialogue Conspiracy KLRB, California.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
This has been Dialogue Conspiracy with political research specialist May Brussel,
who for ten years has been researching the facts behind
political assassinations and conspiracies in this country. Dialogue Conspiracy originates
with KLRB FM in Carmel, California,
It's time for Dialogue Conspiracy with political research specialist May Brussel,
who for three years is shared with US for decades
research into political assassinations and abuses of power in this country.
Her program relates to the news of the week, to
emerging evidence about the conspiracy, which allegedly maintains by force
its control over the legislative and judicial processes in America.
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And now here's May.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Good Afternoon. This is May Brussel and Carmel, California. It's
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and five in July the fourteenth,
nineteen seventy five. Out here this afternoon, I'm trying to
survive various assaults, one upon my head, which I had
five weeks ago. I'm still light headed. My head was
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I was knocked down and my head was stomped on.
Had surgery on my job this last week. And we'll
have some more in the next week's poison oak, mosquito.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Bites, and flea bites. But if that isn't enough.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I wake up on Sunday morning in Carmel to find
that Major General my Hugh Wan, one of the men
who ordered the murder of DM, lives in Monterey California,
and the assassination teams at least overtly seemed to come
to move right close to your front yard. I remember
the first dialogue conspiracy I did four years ago in
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the spring of seventy one, when the Pentagon papers broke,
and I explained that the truth someday would come out
that the CIA was involved in the plans to murder DM,
that they were behind that assassination. And I just noticed
yesterday in our paper that a South Vietnamese general who
was behind the orders UH to kill DM, now lives.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In our neighborhood. He's living with his sister in Monterey, California.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
The summer woes I classify that, I guess, along with
the mosquitoes and the poison oak and everything else, is
something that we have to live with and understand and
see how many of these Vietnamese assassins are brought into
this country, those related to drug importations and the Phoenix program.
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I read when I came into the KLRB that there's
a memo in the Rockefeller Report to remove mister Colby
as they had a central intelligence agency because of the
assassination of thirty or forty thousand persons, in the Phoenix operation.
And at the same time that the suggestion of the
whisper is to remove mister Colby, we're importing the very
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people that did the assassinations. This is one of the
inconsistencies of our government which I cannot understand or the
Congress and the Senate to allow these things to happen.
We should now bring war criminals into this country until
we find out what happened over there, on what basis
they had for murdering these people, and maybe they should
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stand trial in their own country, as some Germans did Nurremberg.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not enough of them, but some of them.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I did want to talk today about mister Butterfield being
named as a possible link of the White House to
the CIA by Fretcher Prouty this week, but I'll have
to do more of that next week because I have
some other matters that I think are more important. I
did mention in my Realist article two years ago in
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the summer of seventy three, the plans to remove Richard
Nixon out of the White House and that if necessary,
he would be assassinated, And in that same article I
brought up the subject of who would assassinate him I
talked about mister al Long of the Secret Service, who
worked with James McCord and Alexander Butterfield, that knew every
room that Richard Nixon was in and the bugging devices,
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and that the lectures I gave in the last couple
of years, I've said that Nixon could be removed by
the White House tapes. This would be the role that
Alex Butterfield would have and could have, and he didn't
have to be assassinated. Once assassination money could be linked
to the Watergate team, they couldn't go ahead and murder
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him because payments had already been made to murder Richard Nixon,
and by producing these tapes, Richard Nixon was sure to
be out of office.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Alex Underfield was on.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The national television denying his role in this political operation.
But I also listed in that same article how you
recognize espionage operations Clindestine operations, and one of the ways
is the constant denial, such as John Mitchell denying he
knew the people involved in the Watergate, and another is disavowal.
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Mister Butterfield can say I didn't know e Howard Hunt
at all, but it would be very hard to believe
that because under the jury testimony grand jury testimony, E.
Howard Hunt testified in December of seventy three that he
had a separate recorder machine and a bugging device in
his own desk put in by Al Long of the
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Secret Service inside the White House. And if Wong was
receiving the tapes from Hunt was receiving the tapes from
the White House from the President of the United States.
And Butterfield was in charge of these operations and the
Secret Service operation there of the taping, he must have
known that E. Howard Hunt was also taping inside the
White House if the machinery was set up by Al Wong.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Who worked with Butterfield.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
There are many other reasons for knowing that the men
would probably have to know each other. But the disavowal
I don't know you is easy on national television. It
isn't in a courtroom under sworn testimony, and any perjury
wouldn't be prosecuted anyway. The article that broke about the
CIA infiltrating the White House mentioned that they infiltrated the
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Office of Management budget In that same article in The Realist,
on page twenty three, under institutions to dismantle. I listed
the Office of Management Budget and I also listed Dale
DLI the Drug and Law Enforcement Agency, and this was
also mentioned this week as being infiltrated by the CIA.
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Alexander Butterfield is the agent from the White House who
may have been under the salary of the Air Force.
He was in the Air Force, and Victor Marcatty and
various persons in the CIA have said that you can
still be in the CIA and lose your relationship to
the agency and take on a new identity. So at
the time of the White House tapes being disclosed, he
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was in quotes in the Air Force, but he was
also sent to the Department of Federal Aviation. He had
been deputy assistant to Nixon. Then he began to head
Federal Aviation December nineteenth and Dorothy Hunt's plane crash was
December the eighth, and it was a very quick transfer
over to transportation to investigate the murder of a very
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high offerative of the CIA. If he didn't work for
the CIA, it's interesting that he was investigating or on
top of the assassination of one of their highest operatives.
There also was a comment about Dale as I say
the Drug Enforcement and there was a comment or affidavits
the CI was infiltrated by one of the vice presidents
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of CBS. It's interesting to note that Michelle Clark of
CBS was on flight five five three when Dorothy Hunt
was murdered, and that CBS ordered her body cremated immediately
without any word of the families consent her otherwise.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
And one has to ask if a high CIA.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Operative is assassinated, why is a coworker or somebody with
her cremate and how to CBS have the authority? And
this is where the links of the CIA infiltrating these agents,
agencies and offices becomes important because they're being able to
manipulate not only people, but the evidence after the crashes
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or the deaths take place. Also working for DALE, the
drug enforcement agency which the documents they were infiltrated by
the CIA, was Harold Metcalf. Now he sat on the
same plane as missus Hunt, Dorothy Hunt, on flight five
five three, and he told the pilot that he was
carrying a gun and he was assigned to seat B seventeen.
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Coincidence with the new song popular song about B seventeen.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Mister Metcalf sat on seat.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
B seventeen next to the stewardess, and he wore an
outfit that would allow him to leave the airplane. He
sat near the food galley, and after the crash he
was wearing a jumpsuit. Former military intelligence investigator Heyah identified
himself as Harold Metcalf, who was an overseas CIA parachute spy.
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So represented from CBS was on that fatal air crash.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
An aeroplane.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Somebody from Dale Drug Enforcement was on that fatal aeroplane
and a member of the CIA, and then mister Butterfield
was sent over to Federal Aviation. Also in these documents
of the CI in fil trading the White House, they
mentioned that an agent infiltrated the Commerce Department. But two
years ago I said that mister Butterfield was a very
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important man to the whole removal of Richard Nixon from
the White House, the way he was slipped out of
power to make way for Joel Ford and Rockefeller, who
was the agent in a Commerce department that they are
admitting now there was one agent.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
We know there're more. First of all, the Commerce.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Department handled all the funds and budget for the Central
Intelligence Agency in Virginia. It goes under the Commerce Department.
But if Butterfield was important there, who was another agent?
One of those whose name you may not remember is
Ed Faylor Failo R. And there are articles about Ed
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Faylor July twelfth, nineteen seventy three in San Francisco Examiner.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm sure they're on the wire. Services.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He worked for CREEP, the Committee to re elected President,
and he set up a shop across the alley where
the Democratic Convention headquarters were.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
And he now is a high official in the Bureau.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Of Census in the Commerce Department. But we know he
worked with CREEP as an es Vonage agent. He operated
from the Fountain Blast spot in Miami Beach. He ran
electronic recording and transmitting devices to be used in the
hotel headquarters. And at the time he was a special
assistant to campaign director John Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
His office has had a rent a.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Cop that they sent out. They had cops that they rented.
There were guards at the door.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was a.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Secret espionage operation across from the Democrats, with twenty to
forty people in the operation. Definitely Hush Hush was seven
or eight guards. The Democrats wanted one hundred rooms extra
rooms at the Fauna Blau that were suddenly withdrawn from
then two weeks before their own convention down in Miami.
The Republicans would have one later, and it was soon
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learned that mister working for the Interior Department at that
time he's now in Commerce, had taken those rooms and
charged them to the White House, so that the Democrats
couldn't use those hundred rooms. Faylor bugged the Democratic offices.
He sent a message to Nixon San Clementy twenty four
hours in advance that Eagleton's name would be on the
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list of those heading the vice presidential nomination. And Faylor
also knew at that time that Eagleton had a drinking problem,
and there was a quotation this article was very very
happy at the nomination of Eggleton. He went on to
see the demonstration at the Dural Hotel of the hippies
that Falor said couldn't have been stage, but which Frank
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Mankowitz said the demonstration looked phony. Now Faylor was rewarded
for his hatch at job by becoming head of the
Commerce Department the Social and Economic Statistics Administration, And this
was in Jack Anderson's column June twenty first, nineteen seventy three,
that he headed a mysterious attack group, that he was
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a political hatchet man, and that mister Faylor then went
on as his reward for being a hatchet man. This
is Jack Anderson to head the Commerce, Social and Economic
Statistic Department and his budget there is one hundred million
dollars and he controlled seven thousand employees. And part of
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this UH Department of Commerce is he will supervise the
Census Bureau and other vital statistic units and they there
was an allegation that he was put there because of
his UH clandestine work to make economic picture look rosy
for Richard Nixon. But that's a tremendously important UH job.
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And who else was in the Commerce department? Another agent
was placed in the Commerce department immediately and not coincidentally
with mister Faylor. Tom Charles Houston was put there, and
you know he had the terrible Euston plan, the military
police plan that John Dene smuggled out of the White
House and the control of blacks and minorities and genealogy.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Through the Commerce Department. Is a very.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Sensitive physician, and this is how the infiltration of the
CIA takes over our various Cabinet physicians. Maurice stands with
Secretary of Commerce before he left there to go to
creep and then it turned out that he had given
illegal CIA money to the reelection of Richard Nixon. I
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have an article dated June fifteenth, nineteen seventy three that
Marie stands built up a one million dollar fund out
of taxpayers' money while at the Commerce Department to aid
Nixon's re election. You see how important it is to
weed out these CIA people that are taking funds such
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as the money the CIA sent to Greece that I
talked about last week of the week before, and then
they give it to the military dictator there, who gives
it to Tom Poppas who comes home to give it
to Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew when Marie stands with
Secretary of Commerce, and it's alleged that he took one
million in taxpayers money while at the Commerce and it
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went into the re election of Richard Nixon, and again
they talked about CI and filtrating Office of Management budget
that was run by roy Ash from Litton Industries, and
it was that office that was a conduit of money.
Roy Ash's office, the Litton industries to overthrow Greece and
put in a military dictatorship, and the Office of Management
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Budget has been a conduit and does work closely with
the CIA. So the story of Butterfield being the link
to the Central Intelligence Agency that came out by Fletcher
Prouty has to be taken seriously because mister Prouty is
a very conservative, fairly straight person, and when he says something,
believe me, he's checked it out. I know that there
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are very few of these allegations that he's made, considering
how much he knows about what's taking place in Washington.
And he claims that Butterfield was the CIA contact in
the White House, and it's consistent with the fact that
there were assassination plans to get Richard Nixon, and when
they were linked to the Watergate entry and the funding
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from the Mexican money to Houston to Miami, to Washington
to New York, then the assassination was called off and
Richard Nixon was taken out of office because of the tapes.
I have a news article here that the major networks
are going to back off the JFK assassination conspiracy. I
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don't know if this is too early to announce it.
But I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I announced a few weeks ago, a month ago, that
I was going to do a series continuously about CBS
until they put their documentary on about Gerald Ford and
the Portrait of the Assassin. And I have done several
parts of that, and every week I say, we'll go
back to Joel Ford's book, and last week we did
a little bit of it, and hopefully next week we'll
get back to it. But here's a news bull and
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then saying the major networks back off on the JFK
assassination conspiracy. Three weeks ago we reported that CBS and
NBC Television Networks we're doing extensive research for one hour
specials on the JFK murder. We have now been updated
from CBS sixty minutes has discontinued their research, while the
attorneys at MBC advise the network not to run a
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completed segment of the Tomorrow Show. Now, the Tomorrow Show
was Tom Snyder with a gentleman named mister Morris. R.
Morris from Tennessee who did work into the gangland connections
of Maffage chief Carlos Marcella with a political conspiracy and
with his chief lieutenants, David Ferry and Eugene Braiding, and
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mister Morris made a tape to be on c NBC,
but the show has been canceled and NBC will not
show it. But it's interesting that CBS, I hope, will
not go through at the Gerald Ford book and will
keep hammering away in the weeks to come with evidence
to prove that they would only be covering up the
cover up if they continue with these kinds of lies.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And now so much.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Information is coming out about the Kennedy conspiracy that will
make CBS look really bad.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
When I came back from.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
New York where I was there, I spoke to mister
Moses from CBS and Harry Moses, and he had been
in Dallas for a few weeks and he was doing
a documentary at Oswald and he asked me for some information,
and a lot of the researchers were very co operative
with him, and I was the only one, according to
what I've talked to them, the ones that I've talked to,
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I was the only one who said I really wasn't
interested in talking to mister Harry Moses.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I told him why.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I told him that he takes witnesses and ask the
wrong questions, and he doesn't ask the right questions of
the right witnesses, and that CBS had sold the Vietnam
War and Cambodian lyos and the Holocaust in Southeast Asia,
plus the Kennedy story that Oswald did it alone, and
that I wasn't interested in cooperating in any of their
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movies or any of their television work, because for my part,
I just boycott it totally and tell other people to
do the same. And I gave them examples and read
him documents that I have in the house on why
they pervert stories, how they do it, and that it
was a very serious matter and I didn't want to
be involved. Then last week I talked to two people
at CBS, one is Bernie Bernbaum and one Jan Bartel's
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that were supposed to do a thirty minute segment of Oswald,
and I again read them a lot of information on
the telephone. I sent them one document from my files
and gave them another side of the story of Lee
Harvey Oswald that they have never dealt into, never dared
to admit or investigate.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And I'm very very pleased.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I hope it's true that they're not going to do
these shows because no show is better.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Than the lie. At least they won't.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hamper the researchers and try to cover up like they
did before they could do a show using my research.
I said, just once, why wouldn't you try using these documents,
Why wouldn't you once give an exploratory show using the
information that can be documented as much as anything you
have that you put on your shows previously. And they
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weren't about to do that or to come out to
California and use any of these documents. But I'll be
very happy if they just call off their shows. That's
what I wanted, That's what I'm working for.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Right to them, tell them nothing is better than lies,
and support the no show theory, and let it go
at that. There's another news broadcast getting to another subject.
A detective agency has been working in Houston, Texas and
with headquarters in Puerto Rico, and they claim they've cracked
the John Kennedy assassination. The firm is known as Security Associate.
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It's international, and they said their clients, who they won't name,
hired them two years ago to look into the Kennedy assassination. Now,
this is interesting about the clients that they won't name
because I'm going to speculate and throw out a theory.
I do it all the time after I have enough
documentation to a certain point. The man they've hired is
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Pepper Crowder Croowder. He says he has considerable new information
proving that Oswald did not shoot the president or anybody
else in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
He said that certain federal agencies were involved in the assassination.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Theory and that their evidence proves that the single bullet
theory is reported by the Warren Commission is incorrect. This
agency is known as Security Associates International. They have done
work in Houston for two years with oil and chemical
industry and they're a reputable firm. They were even written
up in the Houston Post. A friend of mine and
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a radio fan sent me a letter this week in
the Houston Post that they are going into this matter. Well,
people who live in Houston could get an earfull because
John Conley had strong links into Houston, Texas at the
time of the assassination. There was a specific bank that
was used in Houston, and I have the name of
it that was involved with the Kennedy assassination, and it
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would link to the Watergate money that came from Mexico
up to Houston at the time of the Watergate arrests.
Besides the bank links, there is the firm of Brown
and rut major contractors that built the tiger cages in Vietnam,
made huge profits in Vietnam War.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And a person who used that agency, as has covered
George de Moornschild. I'll talk more about him later if
I have time.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Was Lee Harvey, Oswald's CIA contractor babysitter, and every few
weeks George de Moronschild would leave de Goyer McNaughton. He
had an office as an engineer oil engineer, and Degoyer
McNaughton hired another agent, Paul reg Out Rodsky, who had
close ties in Houston too. With these people, Demorenschild went
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back and forth to Houston for his assignments and his money.
He was the man, as I say, in control with Oswald.
He left Texas in April sixty three and didn't show back.
He's teaching in Texas now, but he disappeared when the
assassination plans got thicker and heavier. He didn't have a
role in the placing in delay Plaza. Other than helping
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introduce Leon Marina Oswald to Ruth Payne, who had placed
Oswald in the Texas school book Depository, De Moorinschild, who
was going to Houston, Texas for his money and directions
every few weeks regularly, was the only link besides Marina
Oswald to the rifle that Leavy Oswald never saw or
allegedly that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
He even owned.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And he also is the only link to the major
General Walker shooting, which Oswald didn't do. Demornschild was very
important to the cover story, and I hope that the
links in Houston, Texas will go to George de Warrenschield,
Paul Raggattawarski, Leon Giroski. Giroski was head of the Anderson
Foundation of the CIA. He was on the board of directors.
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He was an attorney for them. He was on the
Warren Commission. His job was to represent the state of
Texas in so far as the Warren Commission is concerned.
Houston is important for their bank, for Leon Girosky, for
the Lynks of Brown and rut And let's see what
they come out with later. But these are what I
think are the Houston links, the important news to Lynx
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Houston links. So when this company comes out with their report,
which will be very soon, those will be the links
that I think you will find the Mexican money and
as I say, the banking Leon Giorsky, Brown, George de
Morenschield and Paul Raggattirovsky. Now speculation who is behind this information?
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Who's bringing down the federal government?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
There was a newsible of the night by Ron Dullams.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
If you really find out who killed the President Kennedy,
the American government will should be shaken to its foundations.
Who's behind the Houston group exposing the federal government? I
would speculate. I would just speculate that even though this
is a security association that has done business for oil
and chemical industries, that it has to be a branch
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of the US organized crime group that got infiltrated from
both working in Dallas and in Houston and down in
Puerto Rico and near Cuba.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That I said, peacefully, there's a peaceful solution.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
To opening up the John Kendy assassination or the fact
that Howard US doesn't exist, or the use of the
CIA for domestic assassinations and using Howard Use organization as.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
A front for some of them.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I believe that a branch of organized crime, such as
the names that come through all of this, as these
exposed as come, is going to bring down the intelligence
agencies that use them.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And if we look.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Far into it, and I've predicted murders entanglement between the
CI and organized crime, that some element of that branch
is now servicing and exposing and putting up money to
expose the people who hired them or used them, or
use Jack Ruby, or ask them to help with the
getaway cars. And the role that organized crime had in
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the Kenny assassination was the use of Jack Ruby and
the flying away of the real assassins and the teams
of assassins, and that was their branch. Each person in
the intelligence agency was assigned a need to know basis,
and that's where the organized crime came into the use
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of Jack Ruby and his family and shooting Lee Harvey
Oswald to conceal the real people who planned the assassination.
Crawdaddy has a cover this month an article called the
Whole Earth Conspiracy Catalog. That's the work that I was
doing at the time that Watergate broke. I was putting
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together and still want to do what I considered the
Whole Earth conipiracy Catalog. I'd asked Stuart Brandt if he
would help me, the man who got out the other
Whole Earth books.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
He wasn't interested.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And Paul Kratzer sent me this article today from San
Francisco and he.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Said, it's a shame they're doing your idea.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I've spoken of the Whole Earth Conspiracy Catalog, and it
is a project. I want to do various books that
are out three to four hundred books and organizations and theories,
and put together a resume of the work that's been
done so far. This is about a ten page article.
It's got the addresses of various people you can write to.
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It's got some important questions to ponder, questions which I've
asked on the air and I've asked in my article.
Some of it is a put down. There's eight questions
stalking the wild conspiracy. You eight questions to ponder. It's
got eight theories to ignore, and it's got the list
of various organizations. It describes me Brussel writing for the
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Realist as the con conspiracyologists. If they were ranked like
records in a billboard, would be about number eight with
a bullet for sheer notoriety alone. Brussel has built quite
a reputation researching the common patterns and personal in personnel
involved in political subterviews, extending beyond assassinations to the SLA Watergate,
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police provocateurs and other political dramas. Her work leaves many
answers unquestioned. That may be a put down. I take
it as a compliment because I've given the answers and
I've found the research.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
And for every person.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's gone in to investigating my wild what you call
your wild allegations, the answers that were asked filled in.
I gave the conclusions and they were the right quest questions,
and the answers came in and they filled in the
details of a lot of the research that I've done.
So if the answers are there and they're in questioned,
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then those of you who listen take the answers and
do your own research and fill it and find out
any area or wild speculation that's far off and see
where it leads you, and you will be shocked to
find that it lines up with the actual documentation and evidence.
I feel that some of the things I'm saying are
too far out for my coworkers and researchers to comprehend
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or understand. But I did write to Mark Lane and
Richard Pompkin and Don Freed this week and ask them
for a letter of apology for some of the sneers
and remarks they made after Boston at the conference there
in lieu of the material that Richard Popkin is sending
out as factual information now that I was trying to
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explain to them in Boston and they wouldn't use.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I'll read to you a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'd mentioned it last week or two weeks ago, a
news report by Richard Popkind, one.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Of my fellow researchers, and this is one of the areas.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
He has a news bullet in this week on the
new information that a Puerto Rican whose name I have
and I'll withhold it until he breaks it or until
I have further permission to release it, was arrested in
the Philippines for allegedly plotting to assassinate President Marcos. I
mentioned this before on the air, but I.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Want to fill in more of the details.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
This gentleman was administered truth theorem because he was listed
as an illegal alien down in the Philippines, and in
the course of hypnotic sessions, he said that he was
a pilot for the Bay of Pigs, that his plane
was shot down, and that the CIA rescued him. And
when the CIA rescued him, they didn't take him to
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a normal hideaway.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
They took him to a special training.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Place where we came part of in their hands, and
they turned him into a program killer. Remember last week
we talked about the news article from the London Times
that the CIA was running our Navy intelligence two schools
for known murderers. They would take murders out of stockader
people killed in war, and they trained them to be
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political assassins. And one of the schools and in San Diego,
and one was in Naples.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I guess that was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago
in Dialogue Conspiracy, I.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Talked about that Navy intelligence school, one in San Diego,
one in Naples that taught known killers to kill more.
And you could see that after Bad Pigs and the
humiliation and the defeat, that these people were natural to
be used for the Kenny assassination, to get even with
John Kennedy now pop guy and alleges now to have
thousands of pages of documents about this particular person in
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the particular operations, and he said that the CIA at
that point turned him.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Into a program killer.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And he claims that he was involved in the Kennedy assassination,
that he was taken to the dal Text building which
is directly behind where John Kennedy's head was, and that
seven gunmen were used in the assassination.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
He remembered two of the names of people that were
with him.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
One of them he remember was Clay Shaw and the
other was a name which is new to conspiracy theorists
in terms of John Kennedy assassination. But the name came
up and I have it, and again I'll wait for
Richard Popkin to put it on the air or I
called him and asked permission for me to use on
my show, because the name is a man who worked
with Fred LaRue in the Watergate affair and had espionage
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links that I had catalog going to the wall is
killing and this particular man name, he's very prominent in
the White House. He was part of the Southern strategy.
And the name of the man, the second man who
was with him is the name of a person who
later appears involved with the financing of the shooting of
George Wallace. The name it may not be the same person, but.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
It was the name.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Now, this man said that he had instructions to shoot
John Kennedy and that he'd be sitting next to a
woman in this particular car, and that a signal came
from a building directly across. There'd be a flash in
his face with a mirror when he was to shoot.
And this is the important part of the pop geind document,
which I think is very important.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
He says he was.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Taken to a Midwestern hotel with a middle aged woman
who spoke with a German accent, and the middle aged
woman operated under a small business cover, and that he
was programmed to forget all the details, and that he
was trained like a zombie and certain words like the
word blue would set him off. Now I have information
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of a project Blue on Moderatey Peninsula by the Nazis
men wearing Nazi armbands that work and Ford Order were
out there a few years ago, and it was part
of a plan for eventual martial law or a takeover,
and they were to put chemicals into the water contaminate
in this country, and that code word was project glue.
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And the CIA has another Project blue that I have
to look up, but I remember that. But his word
here for shooting. He was clued with a word like
the word blue. He was programmed then to forget all
the details. After the shooting, he was taken to this
motel by this woman and he was trained, as I say,
to respond to these words. Now, the woman wore a
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poka dot dress similar to the one worn by the
woman with Sirhin sir Han. When Robert Kennedy was shot,
a woman of poka dot.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Dress yelled, we killed him. We killed him, and she fled.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And this woman that programmed him also had a poka
dot dress, he says. The hypnotist or did the work
was an agent in the Philippines, and he wrote Richard Popkin,
and Rocher Popkin had the letter filed away unopened, and
he was in England teaching or he was away he's
had in nineteen seventy and didn't respond an answer to
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the person.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
But when he came up across the letter, he wrote
to them. And now the document backs of the research.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
And I wish that Richard Popkin had opened the letter
before he went to the Boston Conference because instead of
these experts sitting down and acting like I was a
bunch of crazy among these great professors, if they had
listened at that time and put them together with the
work I had, they would have been.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Much farther ahead. At that time.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Mark Lane claimed that I was saying the researchers back
twenty years because I talked about behavior modification, because I
talked about women accompanying.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Men to do these jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I know in California, mister Fraser and Honolula, Lawrence Kwan
who shot at Kgo, mister Camber, we're in the company
of women famous inventors. The United States governor has taken
their invention and they put women on to turn them
into zombies. Once they took their inventions, and they get
millions of dollars in contracts invent what these people already had,
and they reduced them to vegetables. And I talked about
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the use of these women taking these men and programming them,
and that zombies were.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Involved in the assassination.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
So now mister Popkind has taken this material to the
Church Committee and he said there's approximately seventy zombies walking around.
And as I say, I wrote to my coworkers and
asked them, would they be interested in an apology for
the allegations that I made and the names that are
being used now, and see the relationship of these to
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what I was saying to the documents that they're just
finding because I also have documents, but they don't come.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And see my documents, and they didn't think it was
hardly credible.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
As a matter of fact, the News Service says that
if Richard Popkind had serviced in nineteen seventy with his information,
he would have been discounted as crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
But in nineteen seventy five, in.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
January, when this kind of information was brought out, it
was still too early. And now in July seventy five,
the media and the Congress members of Congress are examining it,
and we're in a different ballgame. And the two big
stories of the nineteen fifties, sixties and seventies is the
mind control and the political assassination, and the relationship of
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each working together. Now, who is doing all this mind control?
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Who was behind it?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I believe that they can be pinpointed. I think the
hospitals could be pinpointed.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I have referred to the book where we.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Controlled written by a pseudonym Lincoln Lawrence on the possible
areas where Lee Harvey Oswald was controlled at a hospital
in the Soviet Union. I also wanted to read before
I get too much into that, in case we don't
have time. I wanted to read a letter which I
didn't bring last week, but which I talked about on
the air and didn't have on time in my files
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to go through to bring to KLRB. I mentioned the
link of the Nazis to Lee Harvey Oswald that I
wrote to Simon Weisenthal, the man in West Germany who's
try trying to find Nazi war criminals, to find if
the Alexander Zeiger ran the radio factory in Russia in
Minsk was a Nazi criminal who left Europe in thirty
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eight and went back in fifty five in linked with
Lee Harvey Oswald, because I found memos that LeAnn marine
Oswald took documents out of the radio factory in Minsk
and asking for the daughters of mister Zaiger to be
taken to Argentine and members of the Warrant Commission, including
Alan Dulles, were aware.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
That the subject was brought up.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
The CIA could be used to send these girls to Russia,
from Russia to Argentine, and I wanted to read the
letter on these Nazis. The reason I was concerned is that,
for many reasons that after a Yendi was murdered and
Chile was put back in the hands of Itt, the
Nazi surface there. Walder Ralph, who was a former colonel
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in the Nazi SS Security Office in Berlin, dealt with
mass Jewish extermination. He fled Germany, went down to Chile,
and now after the military Hunter was put in power,
he became the advisor on prison administration. He was named
in the Nuremberg War crimes, and now he's in Chile,
where there were signs immediately after the hunt to hang
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a Jew on every lamppost. That may explain why mister
Pinochet will not allow the United Nations Commission on Human
Rights to investigate in prison and torture. The former official
of the SS for Adolf Hitler, runs the prisons down
in Chile today. The CIA was responsible for overthrowing Greece
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in nineteen sixty seven. Immediately after Greece was overthrown, German
Nazis surface Premier George Papadopolis, a wartime collaborator with the Nazis,
was put in control of the Greek government by our Cia.
When Muzadah was kicked out of Iran in fifty four,
thanks to our Cia, the son of the Nazi regime,
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the Show of Iran was put back into power. His
father was a known Nun sympathizer, and now the Shaws
in full control of the oil fields of the Middle
East and Persian Gulf thanks to Richard Helms and the
Central Intelligence Agency and knowing that Nazis were behind and
working with Lee Harvey Oswald in the Dallas Fort Worth area,
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and Lee Harvey Oswald planned to go to Germany. If
you don't know that in nineteen fifty eight fifty nine
he wrote to Albert Schweizer's school in Switzerland that he
wanted to go to Germany. He said in quotes, to
broaden my knowledge of German and live in a healthy
atmosphere and good moral atmosphere. Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend
and strong man was George de Moorenschild, the sophisticated man
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whose name was von Moreenschild, who admitted in the forties
he worked with his cousin mister Baron Maydahl and known
as a known pro Nazi. De Morenschild was apprehended at
Corpus Christi during World War II, followed from New York
Damn to Corpus Christie in Texas and accused of making
photographs there of the Arnassis pass Us Coast Guard station
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as a possible Nazi spy. So I found the letter
because the Nazis in Greece, the Nazis in Dallas, and
I have more information in the Nazis in Dallas Fort
Worth that I've used. I'll read to you the Nazis
being back sympathized as in Iran and around the world.
The actual agents from the SS, not their children, not
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their followers, but the actual agents. I brought with me
a letter asking mister Wisenthal defined Zeiger because CBS and
Daniel Shore last week had an interview with the man
who saw documents that the rvy Oswald was in intelligence
in the radio factory in Minsk. And I'm going to
read you now when I wrote in sixty eight, because
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the document in seventy five is just servicing. March twenty second,
nineteen sixty eight, I wrote to mister Simon Wisenthal, well
known for finding German.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Nazis the fled Europe after World War Two.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Dear mister Wisenthal, are you familiar with the name of
a person living or deceased with the falling background. Mister
Alexander Zaeger is the eger in quotes, supposed to be
a Polish Jew. He's from Argentina. He went there from
Poland in nineteen thirty eight to Argentine. He returned to
the Soviet Union in nineteen fifty five. He is supposed
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to be, in quotes, a qualified engineer. He's the head
of the department of a radio factory in Minsk, Russia.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
The reason I'm asking is a following.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I have been researching the assassination of President Kennedy since
November nineteen sixty three. There is evidence of a strong
possible link of the Galen operation in Nazi Germany to
our Cia, to the nest of Nazis in both Argentina
and in Dallas, Texas, all of Lee Harvey Oswalt's contacts
in the Dallas area with right wing immigrant community. The
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strongest link of Oswalt's connection with Marina Oswald and the
meeting up with Marina comes in Moscow and Minsk and
centers on the foreman and manager of the actor where
Oswald worked in Minsk. His former engineer is described as
a Polish Jew who returned after the war. It is
hard to visualize the Soviet Union importing this refugees from Argentina.
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Is it easy to imagine that he entered the Soviet
Union under the name of a deceased Jew who died
in Poland. I'm writing the Soviet Embassy in Washington about
mister Zayger. I wanted to wait your answer. Among Lee's
possessions in volume sixteen, page sixty of the Commission Hearings
before the Commission on the Assassination of John Candy is
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the name of mister Petrik Kov from the Argentine Embassy
in Russia. This may seem a little complicated if you're
not familiar with the material. Many years at much work
goes behind what I'm telling you, and the Soviet Union
themselves may not be aware to this moment the relationship
of mister Zayger to the Oswalds. I hope to hear
from you soon, Regards May Brussel. I received an answer
(42:56):
from mister Weisenshal. It was David April sixteenth nineteen sixty eight,
that he was in receipt.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Of my letter, but he could not help me.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
The name of Alexander Zaiger, he says, was not familiar
to me, and I have no possibility to check it out.
If there's anything else I can do for you, please
contact me.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
That was the questionnaire I was asking about the possible
links of mister Zaiger being the Nazi that.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Worked with Oswald.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
There was that book I mentioned before where we controlled
about Lee Harvey Oswald and his being hired in the
Minsk radio factory and being a CIA agent, suggested that
he was an espionage agent. And in this book the
links of the Kennedy assassination go between Dallas, Texas and
(43:47):
Argentina and the motive for the assassination. One of the
motives is explained in where we Controlled how the New
York Stock Market was manipulated the day that John Kennedy
was assassination and a person Anthony day Angelus was chosen
to rock the world commodity market. Millions of dollars were
(44:07):
exchanged won and lost. And where we Control goes into
the links of the German Bund and a corporation called
Bunch and born with the German tones. The link was
from Texas and it implied a fore knowledge of the
Kennedy assassination to people in Argentine, Argentina. And so I
did want to read to this letter that I was on.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
The spot working on that back in sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
And I think if that's pursued, we'll find strong links
of the CIA to the Nazis, the Nazis of Germany.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
We can't do very much in forty five minutes a week.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
But we'll cover more each week because it is a
serious situation. It isn't a dead issue that ended with
World War Two. And as we talk about CIA and assassinations,
we have to think in terms of future genocide, black unemployment, race.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Wars, a food war, wars, weather wars, and.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Ask ourselves when did it begin? And did it begin
when Lee Harvey Oswald was named as le Patsy Jack
ruby Shaw him? Did all this begin in Dallas November
twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well that's it for this week. Goes faster me.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I don't know about you, but it goes faster me,
And I'll see you next week on Dialogue Conspiracy KLRB, California.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
This has been Dialogue Conspiracy with political research specialist May Brussel,
who for ten years has been researching the facts behind
political assassinations and conspiracies in this country. Dialogue Conspiracy originates
with KLRB FM in Carmel, California,
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