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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Time. What's again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussell. For
the past fourteen years, May has been researching the fact
behind political assassinations and abuses of power in this country.
The program relates the news of the week to political conspiracies.
Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRVFM in Carmel, California, and now
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May Russell.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good afternoon. This is May Brussel.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's August the first, nineteen seventy seven, and this is
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and eighty, the show that
I'm going to do today. The broadcast will be part
of a two part program this week and next week,
back to back, forty five minutes each and then I'll
send a copy of this tape cassette to members of
the House Select Committee investigating the assassination of John Kennedy
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to be put into the record for further investigation of
the Kennedy assassination, which they're supposed to be investigating at
this time. Before I begin the show and into the
evidence of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City, I just
want to say I have a guest here with me today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Her name is Anna Sullivan. She's down from Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
She listens to the show on Sunday night on KSAPP
and it's her birthday. If you want to say happy birthday,
it is Hello, Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This is one of the younger persons.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I call her young because she's much younger than me,
and she's been following the show for years and becoming
informed on these subjects, and so it's great to have
her down here to spend the day, and she'll be
here in the studio with me while we talk about
this information. I'm going to talk today about a man
in Sacramento by the name of mister Ann K.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Fields FI E l DS.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And I'm going to make an appeal on dialogue conspiracy
for what is actually a contradiction most of the time,
and that is defined as an honest lawyer. Mister Fields
and the political reasoners desperately need a lawyer to help
with this case and with the information that he has
on the Kennedy assassination. I made this appeal once before,
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when I was speaking at San Jose in nineteen seventy four.
I wanted an attorney, or mentioned that prisoner in Salidad
named Robert Hyde needed an attorney to escape psychosurgery at
Vacaville that the CIA was doing under the now revealed
mk Ultra and I knew they were doing this in
nineteen seventy four, and an attorney stepped forward and called
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me after I'd spoken at Sanze Auditorium Civic Auditorium and
got in touch with me and then become the attorney for.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Robert Hyde and was able to save his life. Save
his life.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We stopped the psycho surgery and there were other contracts
to kill him that I've talked before on Dialogue Conspiracy about,
and we worked very well, and I'm very grateful for
this man who volunteered his time. Robert Hide didn't have
any money at the time, but this attorney did come
forward and visited him at some prison solid prison, and
I leave up at Vacaville and was useful in helping
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this particular case. Once before a New York radio WBAI,
I was talking about a woman who believed that she
had electrodes and planted in her head, and.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A psychologist called me and was willing.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To help her with that case and to give tests
to see if there were implants into her head that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
She was being controlled electronically.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I don't ask very often for assistance of this kind,
although I could use it for many many people. But
if there is an attorney listening from the mid valley
in the area of Fresno or Modesto, or Stockton or
San Francisco, a Sacramento, that area north of Santa's who
can go to Sacramento often and he's willing to donate
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his time or preferably living in Sacramento, you can contact
me at KLRB, Box three, nine Ozero four, Carmel, California,
or call me at my home. I'm the only Brussel
in the telephone book, and get my address here in
Carmel and write to me at the house. I do
need an attorney to reach mister M.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
NK. Fields, and through me, I will have them get
in touch with him. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Mister Fields provided me with information which I am going
to read to you on the air today about the
John Kennedy assassination, and I will interrupt it a few
times to interject some of my research which supports his allegations,
and I will try to spend most of the first
part of the program reading his allegations or statements about
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Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I do want to then go on and give.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You some background about mister Fields himself. He's handicapped, he's
in a wheelchair. He's been deprived of the money that
he should have in the welfare department. He's had people
move him off the property where he lived. The landowner
was told that the building would be bulldozed if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
His documents and photographs have been stolen from him. He's
been put in prison and literally tortured and treated very
unfairly and coolly several times, and gagged in court when
he didn't have a defense attorney. I have many, many
pages here on the harassment of mister Fields, and this
is why it's so important to get to him, because
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the burglarising of his files, of his offices, of his
physical safety. He is in danger, just like Robert Hyde was.
It isn't a matter that it'll take its due course.
And that's why we need an attorney, attorney that would
work with him, could possibly go with him to Mexico
or help him with the committee in Washington, d C.
To solve some of the problems of the Kennedy John
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Kennedy assassination and also the Robert Kennedy assassination. Mister Fields
was nominated for a Politicer Prize in letters. I have
a document here a verse. He was up for a
nomination at one time and had written a book and
the data is on the Columbia University nomination. He was
nominated for a book titled Memories written by NK. Fields.
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This was one of his achievements at one time. He
also worked in a private laboratory. He had a small
research laboratory and it was listed in the National Science
Foundation directory. It has a number of the director around there.
It's listed Fields Laboratory of Applied Science one two five
Flowers Street, Costa mase in California.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Senior officer was NK.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Fields the president, and then there were consultants and scientific
personnel and technicians and research activities into agricultural sciences, geology, geophysics,
earth sciences, physics, instrumentation and ore processing. So the man
is an author and he also ran a scientific laboratory
where he got in hot water.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Was trying to.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Expose a case where an elderly friend came to him
and was worried about her own safety because a friend
of hers had been murdered, and these lawyers in the
Southwest and Orange County were in collusion with taking her
property and steel from a crippled lady, an elderly crippled lady,
and the city attorney there panicked and also was responsible
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for the death of his co worker, one of the
lawyers in the case. The city attorney then went on
to be appointed a judgeship in Orange County where he's
a judge. And it was inexposing the murders of the
kidnapping of old ladies that mister Field's got in trouble.
His science files were taken, his cabinets were cleaned out,
they stole his lab equipment, They drove him out of business,
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caused physical injuries, unlawfully imprisoned him, then tortured him because
he was exposing this cancer of law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And collusion down in Orange County.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So he was in trouble with these various authorities for
his honest expose of what was happening to little old
ladies or cripples. And then he himself became crippled and
has been kicked around and has been forced to live
out of an automobile, and they've broken into his automobile
many times and taken his documents.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, so much about mister Field's background.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm going to read you statements as I said that
he gave me on the John Kennedy assassination. You can
listen and take them in, and then I'll go into
some supportive evidence to back up what he was saying.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, I took his documents.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm sure he hasn't seen my research and had never
heard Dialogue conspiracy. But a listener in Sacramento who knew
about my programs had met mister Fields, and that's how
the three of us got together. These are the summary
and conclusions that he gave me on the assassination of
John Kennedy and then Robert Kennedy, in numerical order. One,
the murder of John Kennedy was planned in Mexico City.
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I'll comment on that in a little while. Two it
was planned by the CIA. Three he stated that the
Kennedy assassination was caused because John Kennedy disrupted a CIA
who in Albania and inverted war with China. Now that
sounds a little far fetched, and I was not enough
up on the history of Albania and what John Kennedy
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was doing in Albania in nineteen sixty one that could
possibly cause his assassination. So I read several books on
the subject, The History of the Cold War by Andre Fontaine,
a chapter Korean War to the Present and they Kissory
of the Cold War nineteen seventeen to nineteen fifty, and
then read two other books on the history of Albania
in nineteen sixty one, World War one up to sixty
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one to see what John Kennedy was doing, what Jackie
Nassis was doing in Greece as and emissary as he alleged.
And while the Albanian story is not the part I'll
go into now, I.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Have investigated it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And it's one of the reasons that I'm convinced that
the other work that mister Fields has is as valuable
as it can be, because there is a lot of
truth of what was going on and concealed from us.
If that sounds far, Fest remembered that the United States
government will had a CIA war going in Laos for
seven years, and nobody in Congress knew about it. No
member of Congress knew about it, but the CIA was
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conducting it over there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
All this time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The world was in a situation of total war on
the brink of total war in nineteen sixty one at
the time the landing of the Bay of Pigs with
John Kennedy pulling back. It also over in Albania, and
that is a factor which no researcher yet has hit.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Upon, but which I've been working on.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Mister Field said that while he was in Mexico, the
information that I'm reading to you now was provided to
him by at least three people, not one person or
two people, but three or more. He was down in
Mexico City and the information he got on the assassination
and these conclusions are based upon many people, three or
more telling him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He was told that three assassination.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Teams of five were recruited, and that I believe is true.
I know there was a team in Miami, there was
one in Chicago, and they're one in Texas. He said
they're largely mercenaries in the killing lately used by the
Bay of Pigs fiasco from camps in Guatemala and Cozumel.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That these unemployed mercenaries were competing for assignments after the
Bam of Pigs fiasco. One of their projects was the
murder of John Kennedy, and that was only one. He said.
They were composed of the teams of Aryan types with
their team leaders from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And that's true in Mexico City planning the assassination, where
people like Clay Shaw or he Howard Hunt was stated
to be in Mexico City. He denies it, but there
is a two month period where he was alleged to
be a case officer down there at the time, just
prior to the assassination. But the Aryan types were running
the show with the anti Caster Cubans. He said, there
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was an in house credo going around, do something brave
to advance in the CIA, and they appealed to the
Hitler types who wanted glory in power. I've said a
lot for a long time that the appeal of heroism
was the talking point, and I'll go into it a
little more later. Of selling Jack Ruby to kill Lee
Harvey Oswald or bringing the men from Munich, Germany and
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military intelligence to Dallas at the time of the Kennedy assassination,
the pitch for heroism has been part of the CIA pitch.
I read last week on Dialogue Conspiracy, the Hypnosis, and
Brainwashing that the agents are told that they're being heroic.
He said, Kennedy intended to liquidate the CIA and create
a responsible and answerable intelligence gathering system. That's true, and
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in Kennedy's administration he formed the Defense Intelligence Agency, which
then became a bigger monster than the CIA, But he
did intend.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To liquidate at the CIA. Mister Fields alleges.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That coups and violence, leaving the coups and violence to
the proper military authorities under the control of co congressional constituents,
while retaining the emergency executive power. That Kennedy wanted to
leave all the coups and violence only to the military
and not get into the villain the balance of the
CIA of overthrowing these various countries, that he claims the
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long term project of overthrowing democratic governments was in process
and Kennedy feared it in favor of fascist dictators, and
that Kennedy was working on the problem of the overthrowing
of these democratic governments, and that is one reason he
was a threat to the CIA, and thus the CIA
felt it imperative to kill Kennedy in order for them
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to survive. But that was a small facet of the
whole picture. Of the ultra conservative control of government. If
a president can't be a boat, the only one way
to win an election is to kill.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The Democrat who wins.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Mister Fields went on to say that he'd typed this
out for me or.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
For other researchers.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The murder of John Kenny was financed largely by private
capital and interests that we can take issue about. I
know that the US Organization can take a sum of
ten million dollars and use it for counter intelligence, and
soa can the ITT.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So it's just.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Splitting Harris to say it was financed by capitol, because
the CIA puts the.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Capital into private organizations.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You see that with Robert Mayhew, who worked for Howard Hughes,
who was hired by the CIA to plan assassination teams.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And so it goes unto the private guys that the
use organization and not the CIA.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He said that went on to say that they used
government power and government institutions, but private capital was the
funnel money, which was true. He said, it is doubtful
if Oswald or his double knew the real reason why
Kennedy was being killed.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It is doubtful that the team leader knew the real reason.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A freelance writer at a newspaper in Mexico called Samfrey,
furnished mister Fields with four photographs and displayed many of
them and named the events and the names of the agents.
And these are agents working with Lee Rvy Oswald in
Mexico City, and this is the material mister Fields.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wants to get to the congressional committees.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
There's one picture of Oswald, the RB Oswald talking to
a subagent of the CIA or a courier who is
identified in the reports that were taken in Mexico. There's
another picture number two of the West Team. There were
these teams to kill John Kennedy and these members were
talking together. And there's another picture of the West Team
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member who was the leader of the assassination team, sitting
in a garden in conference with others and an estate
in the Lomas that campanounce that Chapuldepec colony of Mexico City.
There's another picture that mister Fields had. All these were
confiscated by the police department in Sacramento. And it's important
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to understand that the Attorney General of this state, Evil Younger,
has been accused by the researchers of covering up the
assassination of Robert Kennedy, and Robert is involved.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
His killing was.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Planned and spoken about by these groups also, so you
can see why the Sacramento police would confiscate this material
from mister Fields because it might link these two assassinations
together and two people in the highest offices of California government.
One picture showed the same person, this team leader, with
dark glasses on a sidewalk downtown in Mexico getting his
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shoes shined, and the person who took the last two
pictures himself was killed. Some of the evidence was lost,
but some of it is still available. The majority of
these photographs were concentrated on the East team that must
be the Miami killing that was planned for a month earlier,
because it appeared that the most sophisticated and the most
likely to go into action presumably would start in Miami, Florida.
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Now that is where John Kennedy took a helicopter to
a building there because he got information that he was
going to be murdered in Miami, Florida, just shortly before he.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Was to go to Chicago and then to Dallas. Mister
Field said, I saw several copies of investigators'.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Reports one was a photograph rendering by partly literate clinging
women who took pictures of names and the names of
fifteen assassins.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Some were illegible, but she wrote down the names of
these assassins. He said.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
There was serious opinion that there were two people identified
as Oswald to disrupt the shame of evidence and investigations,
and possibly each team had a member who also.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Had a double, and that also, I know is possible.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And the evidence shown to mister Fields, he said, and
the evidence shown to me. There were statements of people
alleging that they heard various comments by these mercenaries that
they would talk like kill the project and in Spanish
it sounded like the project to kill. However, there was
a cause, a case of a some brave thing people
were bragging about to a girl at the National University
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of Obergon in Mexico. They were telling about the brave
thing that they were going to do. I guess these
Anichestro Cubans who were involved with these killing teams, brother
and other students who not only photographed this mercenary but
trailed them to a hotel and then to a state
in Chapa Tulpek Colony. There were numerous aspects a Keystone
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cop thing. Three sets of investigators were watching these people.
I asked mister Field how they happened to be watching
the CIA and Leearvy Oswald that they got these pictures,
and he said, well, after the Bay of Pigs, many
of the operators were boiling mad. They were revamping for
something in Mexico. They were violently anti communists, and mister
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Fields was more working with the socialists or the communists,
if I.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Remember the story right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And these people were afraid that there'd be repercussions or
backlash coming upon them in Mexico City, and therefore that
they went about photographing the CIA teams and a part
of which Learvy Oswald was later recognized, because they felt
that if something came down.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I believe that this is what he told me. The
reason they were photographing them was to.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Keep a record of these anti Caasters Cubans in case
there would be trouble in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He said.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I spoke to one of the students and he will
furnish his data now for a good purpose. Whenever mister
Fields requests, if a lawyer comes forward, that will go
to the committee in Washington DC and write up this
information and notarize it or get money from the committee
in Washington. They do have the budget. They have two
million dollars to go with mister Fields and the lawyer
down to Mexico. This person that he knows has the
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data and will provide this information. He said before the
Act of twenty second November nineteen sixty three, why didn't
the Mexican people zero in on the assassination teams? And
as I say before, he says, they distrusted the United
States government and it's gestapo. The US authorities had killed
Mexican citizens with impunity and imprisoned and tortured others.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Explained to me that the police have a rifle range
to practice on, and the rifle range is called Mexico.
The United States has Mexico. Interesting because I have said
before many times on Dialogue Conspiracy that an unpublished document
has provided the researchers has claimed that the school.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
For assassins that goes all over the world.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
To many many countries, that overthrows countries, is in Mexico,
and that this is the headquarters and the rifle range.
This is interesting because mister Fields didn't know me or
no my broadcast, but he said, now New Mexico, they
say the police have a rifle range to practice on.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The United States calls it Mexico.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The vast population of Mexico considered President Kennedy as Nostro's
president tom bian he was our president also. They identified
with him and knowing as they do and we do
not that any democratic and half way decent president is
likely to be in.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Trouble with the gringo capitalistos.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
They were much more filmful of Kennedy's welfare than we
were in the United States. They were afraid of harm
coming to Lopez Mettios. The Americans forced the Mexican government
to allow the intended air attack against Cuba. They forced
that to be launched from Mexico soil, from the island
of Cozomel just off of Yucatan, as well as in Guatemala.
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They flaunted the Monroe doctrin and the relationships between the
Central American and nations were strained because the Mexicans and
the CIA were working together and the Mexicans.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Were taking orders from our country. He said.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The American people were afraid they would be bombed by
atomic weapons or shooting.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
War could be fought on Mexican soil.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If we allowed these people to be there, maybe a
Castro would retaliate. The mercenaries also were American citizens, mostly
American citizens. They were obnoxious diplomats in the world, in
African countries and elsewhere. They kept voicing their hate against
the Kami gooks in Cuba. And when they were drunk
in bars in Mexico City, these anti cast Cubans and
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were making threats, he said, with all these Hitler types,
for uly defeated and spoiling to kill something they needed watching.
If you're listening to Dialogue Conspiracy and you missed the
first part of the show, this is Matty Brussel reading
some statements made by a man by the name of
mister Field who lives in Sacramando. I'll be doing a
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two part show on this and I'll continue it as allegations,
because he wants assistance of an attorney to go to
Mexico and get pictures that would show Lee, Harvey Oswald
or CIA agents that were involved in the three killer
teams to kill President John Kennedy. With all of these
Hitler types, he said, freshly defeated and spoiling to kill,
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they needed watching. Oswald would have gotten small notice if
he hadn't blown it in the Cuban consulate.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He claims that the reason.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oswald was noticed and photographed as he went there and
made himself conspicuous, Oswald had been identified as a United
States agent or a hireling of agents, and he had
failed his mission to infiltrate Cuba. He was supposed to
go there next. He also was expendable to the Western team.
They had written him off as somebody they were going
to get rid of because of his diminished value to
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the CIA.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I take issue here.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't think it was his diminished value. I think
once he was a patsy and he was arrested and
he told the Dallas police, that's not my body with
the photograph of Oswald holding the rifle and the pistol,
and he knew the evidence was falsified, and he said,
I'm only a patsy. I didn't shoot anybody. They knew
that and arranged his killing. I believe months and months
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in advance with the hiring of Jack Ruby, and he
was expendable because he would be fingered and he would
know that he was a patsy. Mister Field said the
fifth member of the West team was never identified due
to the last minute replacements just before they left for
New Orleans. It was so important for the CIA to
kill Kennedy quickly and cleanly that other guns had to
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be used in a crossfire if the first two failed,
and this is why they needed teams of five people.
The consensus was that if Kennedy sensed popular support and
confidence of the American people across the country, he would
then expose and dismantle the Central Intelligence Agency. There's belief
he already started to organize the intelligence core to utilize
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this machinery that was limited in power.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
People in Mexico tried to warn John.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Kennedy that he would be killed, but they failed, and
then they were frightened. Mister Fields went on to say
in nineteen sixty five, in nineteen sixty six, while in Mexico,
I was informed by five separate sources.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That there were plans made to kill Robert Kennedy when
he ran for president. This was just two and three
years after John Tinny was killed.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
And generally that the next time they would fool the
American people. That in Mexico they said the assassin was
going to be head programmed, which is what happened to
sir Han. Sir Han in nineteen sixty eight, that he
would never get a trial and then he would not
be killed by a Rudy.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
They called him Rudy instead of Ruby.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
They said, the North Americans are stupid, but they're not
that stupid to have a crossfire like before. Plans were
also made, according to mister Field, to kill missus John
Kennedy and their oldest son, John Junior by causing accidents.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That's interesting because Robert.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Kennedy's oldest son has had three accidents, one in which
a girl was permanently paralyzed, and Carolyn Kennedy just missed
being blown.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Up by a telephone call.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
A bomb went off and a man near the automobile
was killed in London last year, and she went back
to answer the telephone and that is all that saved
her life. So we know that the Kennedy children are
not safe. He claims that Edward Kennedy was never any
threat to him. He was no threat to the CIA.
They call him a fool. Eduardo, say, KEP. Brown, there's
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no threat to the CIA. They did talk about killing
Robert Kennedy. I have a photocopy here of a postal
order sent by mister Fields to Ethel Kennedy at her home,
and it's dated and he warned her.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's postmarked and certified.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And he warned her in September nineteen sixty six that
there were these plans to kill Robert Kennedy, and they
heard about them in Mexico and how it would happen.
But they put mister Fields in a psych ward and
called them a nut. He sent a second letter in
October nineteen sixty six, postmarked from Santa Cruz, and I
have a copy of the postage, and again it never
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got to Ethel or Robert Kennedy. And yet down in
Mexico they're bragging about this plan to do the next
killing as far as a couple of years ahead. In
nineteen seventy six, mister Fields wrote, I've been arrested, harassed, jailed, tortured, injured,
behind bars, disabled, I'm confined with wheelchair in nineteen seventy six.
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The last of the photographs and evidence of this Kennedy
matter were stolen in nineteenes just a year ago, by
the Sacramento Police in a blatant violation of our Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Which denied me the means to exercise my first Amendment.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There was a fresh threat on my life the fourth
of March, that was three months ago, nineteen seventy seven,
by an admitted hireling of the government driving a pickup
truck number five nine one one one two, the door
of which had a painted emblem government emblem on the door.
I'd like to publish this material before I'm killed and
before all collateral evidence is stolen. And he signed this
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information I have dated March twenty third, nineteen seventy seven,
that he would swear that all of these statements are true.
He has seen, as I say, photographs of the team members.
He said that several assassination plans were revealed by hirelings
that came from the x Bay of pigs men that
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went to the Philippines and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Were brought back.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I've heard that there was someone knowledgeable and I
have evidence of the Kennedy assassination who did come from
the Philippines. Actually he went there after the assasim nation,
knew about the woman in the polka dot dress and
the Ambassador hotel, and about the Kennedy assassination, and then
got back to Mexico about these assassination teams again.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
From the Philippines.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't believe, according to mister field statement that the
Kennedy assassination was a planned in Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But that's no father error of mister Fields.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
It's just that he doesn't have access to some of
the information that the researchers have. Having spent a lot
of time locked up in mental hospitals and in his
car and in prison and kicked around or persecuted, I
happened to believe the assassination of John Kennedy was planned
in nineteen sixty at the time that John Kennedy won
the nomination in July for the Democratic presidency. The campaign
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was in Los Angeles and he was named as a
candidate for president the United States in July nineteen sixty.
And in September fourteenth, nineteen sixty, Robert Mayhew, working for
the US Organization, met at a hotel in New York
City at the Plaza Hotel September fourteenth, nineteen sixty with
John Rosselli of the Mafia and with a CIA support
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chief and Robert may who John Roselly, the CIA support
chief at the Plaza Hotel to set up assassination squad
in the United States. The CIA Office of Security Director
Sheffield Edwards, who was part of this squad, was murdered
last year after testifying before the Senate hearings. William Harvey,
the CIA official who supplied the weapons for the assassination teams,
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was murdered after testifying before the Senate hearings in seventy six.
John Roselly, who notified the federal government that some of
their assassination teams went on to plan and carry out
the assassination of President John Kennedy November twenty second, nineteen
sixty nineteen sixty three, was murdered three weeks after his testimony.
John Roselly is dead. Sheffield Edwards is dead, William Harvey
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is dead.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And these men met.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
With Robert May to talk about the assassination as early
as a few months after John Kennedy won the nomination.
Not to get off the subject, but I don't want
to forget to mention it. Speaking of death, But the
news just came in this afternoon before I came to
KLRB that mister Powers of the U two fame died
to day in Los Angeles and a helicopter mister Powers
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is an important person and witness that would have been
called before the committee in Washington on the John Kennedy assassination,
because I claimed that he knew the true story about
why Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Soviet Union when
Oswald was doing at the Minsk radio factory, and why
Powers had said that Oswald helped down that plane which
brought down the U to flight in nineteen sixty nine
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at nineteen fifty nine and ended the Summit peace conference,
the dontt in that year of Nikita Khrushchev and President Eisenhower.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I didn't mean to digress.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
We're still on the Kennedy assassination, and the point being
that we can finger the agents, the hotel rooms, the testimony,
the murders, and the beat goes on. It was going
on after Roselli was put in a drum and testify.
He cut up and was chopped up and murdered. William
Harvey was murdered, Schiffield Edwards was murdered, and now we
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have Gary Powers, the pilot of the U two who
died in Los Angeles August the first, nineteen seventy seven.
Going back to the allegations of the statements, that mister
Fields gave me. Because, as I say, this will be
a two or three part program. I will next week
go into some of the story of what was going
on in Albania and the CI in goolvement of John
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Kennedy there, and some more of his allegations. I have
a chart here that he filled out for memory that
I want to read to you the sources of his
information and who they were talking about, and it will
be kind of self explanatory. It's broken down to about
forty eight little boxes here, but as much as time
will allow, I'll give you the source of for some
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of the statements that he was making, and then go
into some more of his statements, probably next week. If
the Cuban councilate in Mexico City, they were staying at
the CIA, they were the ones that said had teams
of three teams of five members each and that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They knew that Oswald was expendable.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
They felt the motive was the crisis in Albania between
Russia and China in nineteen seventy one and the role
that America was taking and trying to break the control
the Soviet Union wanted over Albania to cause a war
between Russia and China at that time.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was from the Cuban Councilate.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That he learned that the children of John Kennedy or
Missus Kennedy could be killed and that Robert Kennedy would
be assassinated. From the Socialist Party that mister Field's worked
with in Mexico and knew. They were told that the
CIA had several teams, that they had a list of
the agents.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They knew who the agents were that were working with
the Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Again, the motive down there seemed to be the same,
and they talked about the fact that Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Would be killed. And he's got a comment here that
the church was in on it.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I don't know if he is thinking of the same
church I am, but I can give the names on
the era.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I've done it before and I'll do it next week.
Various church members from the United States that were.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Sending money for the same school of assassins that passed
themselves off as missionary and the American churches through the Southwest, California,
Oregon around the United States were funding an operation for
assassins and thought they were donating for a missionary down
in Mexico. From cmfrey newspaper down in Mexico City. He
learned about these teams of assassins and also a man
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named Hunt who was not in Oil, and that could
be E.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Howard Hunt who was in Mexico or alleged in Mexico.
At the time, again, the.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Motive seemed to be a coup in Europe and it's
Cmfrey they were talking about Robert Kennedy would be killed
if he would run for president. And that's at the
time where mister Field tried to notify the family living
in Virginia that are in Washington. I think the letter
was sent to their home in Virginia. An agent from
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the Kremlin who he knew down there, who has the
code name here.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
He's given me a code name, who worked with.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
The communists in Mexico City, knew about the assassination teams,
these fifteen assassination teams, and had taken photographs. And again
the motives were the same about the Eastern European problem.
And it was from these Kremlin agents that they knew
that the man who would kill Robert Kennedy a few
years later was being programmed that there'd be no trial
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and that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He is being programmed in the head for the role
at the library.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
There he had a letter of an agent or where
he met with US agents who claimed that Oswald was
not the only one in.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
The Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
This was keeping minded in nineteen sixty five that these
people had these photographs and we're talking to mister Field.
They said the CIA and the FBI were afraid of
John Kennedy, which is true, and they heard talk about
the recent plans getting ready at their rifle range. I
guess down there to kill Robert Kennedy at a hotel
where he was drinking. And he has a letter here
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to signify which hotel he heard that Oswald had doubles.
Now this is interesting, he says, the real one is alive.
That's very important because I have the outline of entire
book on Oswald's doubles, the incidences of forty times where
one man was using the name Lee Harvey Oswald when
the other Oswald was in another location and could be
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verified he wasn't there at the time. And the way
that the book will come together that I want to
write on the Lee Harvey Oswald is that one of them,
the one that was in the Soviet Union, I believe
is alive. And those of you that are familiar with
the program know that I've said it before. So this
comment that he has in his little box that Oswald
had a double and the real one is alive fits
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in with my work. And I'm sure that mister Fields
had no way of getting access to that because he
had never heard my programs when he was making out
these charts.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But I said, and have a document from the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Warren commissioned staff that one Oswald left the Dallas jail
at about told thirty five on Saturday night for arrangment
or Friday night after Jack Ruby was in the jail
and the press were there, and then was brought back
about one thirty in the morning, and that's where the
switch had be brought in and the double carried through
the hall and then killed.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I do believe that Learvy Oswald.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Was in the Soviet Union is alive, and he has
this down here and again the story that Robert Kennedy
is in danger, his oldest son is.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
In danger from students at the university.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He says, not in the university, but students who had
rooms near the university who offered information but were frightened.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
One of them photographed.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Some of these agents, and one of these students was
identified and killed for the picture he took. And the
pictures were shot before John Kennedy was killed, but they
were a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald and the CIA team.
And again he goes into the stories of the programmed
head training of the Robert Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The people at cmfrey.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gave him information about these assassination teams and the photographs
and the plans to kill Robert Kennedy. He had sources
from Teluca l that's a code name for him, where
he met people who blamed the CIA and said for
many dollars, they went to Europe and not only just
in Cuba, and they trained at an estate.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And he has the name of the state.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
The only thing I'm not sure of, and maybe there's
many training fields. I've heard that of Fort me Maryland,
or South Carolina, rather that the CIA had assassination teams trained.
The one that I heard was in O'aco, Mexico, but
there could have been several estates.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He said that this is state.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Down there they were experimenting on Darryl X, Indians and drunks,
not convicts and using drug control. These are the kind
of experiments that Ronald Reagan wanted at the UCLA School
study the causes of violent behavior, to take derelx Indians
drunks and off the streets and put electrode implants in
their brains. So I believe that the CIA does it here.
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They could do it in Mexico. And he heard about
this estate that probably could be investigated or identified where
they were getting these zombies. I guess ready for their jobs.
One gentleman, he has the source here was evasive. Tried
to warn John Kennedy in nineteen sixty three, tried to
warn him that US agents had broken into the communist
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headquarters and had killed them, and two were still alive
and being tortured in Mexico. But they wanted to warn
him about the assassination and the information that they learned
about the Kennedy assassination in trying to protect themselves. The
consensus was that the CIA or American agents killed Kennedy
for political reasons. Oswald was the goat others at the assassination.
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If Oswald did it, he would get US protection, which.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Is what Oswald.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
One Oswald could have done then he says he was
killed because he knew who the others were were is
a contradiction, but there isn't. If one Lee rvy Oswald
left the back of the Texas school Book Depository that
the Warren Commission chose to use even though mister.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Warrenell is dead, that witness or one Lee.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Rvy Oswald left the depository and Sheriff Craig saw that,
and Sheriff Craig is dead.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
There were two leearvy.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Oswalds and the Texas school Book Depository, one up on
the sixth floor shooting, one of the second floor having
a drink.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
One left the back floor and on the front door.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So there's no contradiction of what mister Fields is saying
if he says that Lee rvy Oswell was promised protection
or one was killed, because we know one was killed
in Dallas, and I believe one was given protection and
flown out of the country. This information is based aupon
experiences that this gentleman had in Mexico, of documents that
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he tried to warn John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy about
that they never listened to. And he's willing to take
this information to the authority in Washington Sea. He said,
I was shown photographs of these team members. The freelance
writer I met at the offices of Sambury took me
to a place that he used as an office, and
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he knows the names of the majority of people. There
were two lawyers and a doctor, he explained, and they
were disgruntled. The people who took these pictures got information.
One photo especially chose a person who was Oswald or
his double.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And this writer has photos of what he calls the.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
West Team before the assassination of those four or five people.
It was the general concesses that Oswald and a couple
of others on another team were instrumental in exposing the
assassination plots. Now he says that Oswald tried to expose it,
and that is true. At Learvy, Oswald had gone to
the Western Union and sent messages in Dallas, Texas. I
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think he believed that he would be made of Patsy.
One of the Oswald's was exposing the plot. It said
two were overheard talking in a nightclib by a waiter
who was a good Communist, and immediately used his head
and got a street photographer to do the girly on
the laugh thing to get pictures in this nightclub. Of
these teams, Oswald blew it and shouted and became abusive
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and the Cuban counsulate in a way not typical to
a humble, oppressed citizen from the United States. And he
acted that way not as a man without a country,
but because he wanted to be identified. He Oswald became
the object of surveyance, and his identity by the federal
agencies was established in Washington, where his code name was discovered. Well,
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our time is out on Dialogue Conspiracy. I'm reading some
evidence or documents of a mister Field and Sacramento who
needs a lawyer. If one will step forward and help
him and speak up, we'd appreciate it, and maybe you
can help the committee in Washington to get the truth out.
We'll continue next week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
True sixty eight card from whose every not behind? It's
not for where's the truth?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
How things happened?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Was yesterday? It wasn't eighteen nine?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
O'call quite a two of the truth store.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Those who think that it's no truth there again.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Quite of view, who mock us.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Up the far bot It only for a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
President, just the.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Choice, who should not incite playing in same one November
nine heard the screaming wrongs who knew America to change
your name were not the same.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You and I are not you who.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Call three things enemies. You are clearing down the enemies,
and you will do what we dude to keep it
free like I'm right, she must saying, thy slave, you
must have heard that we will never really rise again.
The mind belie the plastic.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
You gave the word then on.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Just pull us down today? Who are the arch and
nave it on? Ours are great tendered.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
World, Ours about pants. So you and I we disagree.
Truth exists, but deserting a.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Cry for you, a cry as I'm prepared to leave
the bus.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The truth. And he stares pomp say sound is true.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The saw the mine, O mine, this is the true
six o'clock, this is k l RV Carmel. That's how
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we do. And I rewind the tapes because there are
on one side, you know. I rewind it, and never
one an imp and said up su
Time. What's again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussell. For
the past fourteen years, May has been researching the fact
behind political assassinations and abuses of power in this country.
The program relates the news of the week to political conspiracies.
Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRVFM in Carmel, California, and now
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May Russell.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Good afternoon. This is May Brussel.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's August the first, nineteen seventy seven, and this is
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and eighty, the show that
I'm going to do today. The broadcast will be part
of a two part program this week and next week,
back to back, forty five minutes each and then I'll
send a copy of this tape cassette to members of
the House Select Committee investigating the assassination of John Kennedy
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to be put into the record for further investigation of
the Kennedy assassination, which they're supposed to be investigating at
this time. Before I begin the show and into the
evidence of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City, I just
want to say I have a guest here with me today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Her name is Anna Sullivan. She's down from Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
She listens to the show on Sunday night on KSAPP
and it's her birthday. If you want to say happy birthday,
it is Hello, Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
This is one of the younger persons.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I call her young because she's much younger than me,
and she's been following the show for years and becoming
informed on these subjects, and so it's great to have
her down here to spend the day, and she'll be
here in the studio with me while we talk about
this information. I'm going to talk today about a man
in Sacramento by the name of mister Ann K.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Fields FI E l DS.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And I'm going to make an appeal on dialogue conspiracy
for what is actually a contradiction most of the time,
and that is defined as an honest lawyer. Mister Fields
and the political reasoners desperately need a lawyer to help
with this case and with the information that he has
on the Kennedy assassination. I made this appeal once before,
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when I was speaking at San Jose in nineteen seventy four.
I wanted an attorney, or mentioned that prisoner in Salidad
named Robert Hyde needed an attorney to escape psychosurgery at
Vacaville that the CIA was doing under the now revealed
mk Ultra and I knew they were doing this in
nineteen seventy four, and an attorney stepped forward and called
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me after I'd spoken at Sanze Auditorium Civic Auditorium and
got in touch with me and then become the attorney for.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Robert Hyde and was able to save his life. Save
his life.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We stopped the psycho surgery and there were other contracts
to kill him that I've talked before on Dialogue Conspiracy about,
and we worked very well, and I'm very grateful for
this man who volunteered his time. Robert Hide didn't have
any money at the time, but this attorney did come
forward and visited him at some prison solid prison, and
I leave up at Vacaville and was useful in helping
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this particular case. Once before a New York radio WBAI,
I was talking about a woman who believed that she
had electrodes and planted in her head, and.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
A psychologist called me and was willing.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To help her with that case and to give tests
to see if there were implants into her head that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
She was being controlled electronically.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I don't ask very often for assistance of this kind,
although I could use it for many many people. But
if there is an attorney listening from the mid valley
in the area of Fresno or Modesto, or Stockton or
San Francisco, a Sacramento, that area north of Santa's who
can go to Sacramento often and he's willing to donate
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his time or preferably living in Sacramento, you can contact
me at KLRB, Box three, nine Ozero four, Carmel, California,
or call me at my home. I'm the only Brussel
in the telephone book, and get my address here in
Carmel and write to me at the house. I do
need an attorney to reach mister M.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
NK. Fields, and through me, I will have them get
in touch with him. Now.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Mister Fields provided me with information which I am going
to read to you on the air today about the
John Kennedy assassination, and I will interrupt it a few
times to interject some of my research which supports his allegations,
and I will try to spend most of the first
part of the program reading his allegations or statements about
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Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I do want to then go on and give.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You some background about mister Fields himself. He's handicapped, he's
in a wheelchair. He's been deprived of the money that
he should have in the welfare department. He's had people
move him off the property where he lived. The landowner
was told that the building would be bulldozed if they didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Get rid of him.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
His documents and photographs have been stolen from him. He's
been put in prison and literally tortured and treated very
unfairly and coolly several times, and gagged in court when
he didn't have a defense attorney. I have many, many
pages here on the harassment of mister Fields, and this
is why it's so important to get to him, because
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the burglarising of his files, of his offices, of his
physical safety. He is in danger, just like Robert Hyde was.
It isn't a matter that it'll take its due course.
And that's why we need an attorney, attorney that would
work with him, could possibly go with him to Mexico
or help him with the committee in Washington, d C.
To solve some of the problems of the Kennedy John
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Kennedy assassination and also the Robert Kennedy assassination. Mister Fields
was nominated for a Politicer Prize in letters. I have
a document here a verse. He was up for a
nomination at one time and had written a book and
the data is on the Columbia University nomination. He was
nominated for a book titled Memories written by NK. Fields.
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This was one of his achievements at one time. He
also worked in a private laboratory. He had a small
research laboratory and it was listed in the National Science
Foundation directory. It has a number of the director around there.
It's listed Fields Laboratory of Applied Science one two five
Flowers Street, Costa mase in California.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Senior officer was NK.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Fields the president, and then there were consultants and scientific
personnel and technicians and research activities into agricultural sciences, geology, geophysics,
earth sciences, physics, instrumentation and ore processing. So the man
is an author and he also ran a scientific laboratory
where he got in hot water.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Was trying to.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Expose a case where an elderly friend came to him
and was worried about her own safety because a friend
of hers had been murdered, and these lawyers in the
Southwest and Orange County were in collusion with taking her
property and steel from a crippled lady, an elderly crippled lady,
and the city attorney there panicked and also was responsible
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for the death of his co worker, one of the
lawyers in the case. The city attorney then went on
to be appointed a judgeship in Orange County where he's
a judge. And it was inexposing the murders of the
kidnapping of old ladies that mister Field's got in trouble.
His science files were taken, his cabinets were cleaned out,
they stole his lab equipment, They drove him out of business,
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caused physical injuries, unlawfully imprisoned him, then tortured him because
he was exposing this cancer of law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And collusion down in Orange County.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
So he was in trouble with these various authorities for
his honest expose of what was happening to little old
ladies or cripples. And then he himself became crippled and
has been kicked around and has been forced to live
out of an automobile, and they've broken into his automobile
many times and taken his documents.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, so much about mister Field's background.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm going to read you statements as I said that
he gave me on the John Kennedy assassination. You can
listen and take them in, and then I'll go into
some supportive evidence to back up what he was saying.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now, I took his documents.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm sure he hasn't seen my research and had never
heard Dialogue conspiracy. But a listener in Sacramento who knew
about my programs had met mister Fields, and that's how
the three of us got together. These are the summary
and conclusions that he gave me on the assassination of
John Kennedy and then Robert Kennedy, in numerical order. One,
the murder of John Kennedy was planned in Mexico City.
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I'll comment on that in a little while. Two it
was planned by the CIA. Three he stated that the
Kennedy assassination was caused because John Kennedy disrupted a CIA
who in Albania and inverted war with China. Now that
sounds a little far fetched, and I was not enough
up on the history of Albania and what John Kennedy
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was doing in Albania in nineteen sixty one that could
possibly cause his assassination. So I read several books on
the subject, The History of the Cold War by Andre Fontaine,
a chapter Korean War to the Present and they Kissory
of the Cold War nineteen seventeen to nineteen fifty, and
then read two other books on the history of Albania
in nineteen sixty one, World War one up to sixty
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one to see what John Kennedy was doing, what Jackie
Nassis was doing in Greece as and emissary as he alleged.
And while the Albanian story is not the part I'll
go into now, I.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Have investigated it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And it's one of the reasons that I'm convinced that
the other work that mister Fields has is as valuable
as it can be, because there is a lot of
truth of what was going on and concealed from us.
If that sounds far, Fest remembered that the United States
government will had a CIA war going in Laos for
seven years, and nobody in Congress knew about it. No
member of Congress knew about it, but the CIA was
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conducting it over there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
All this time.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
The world was in a situation of total war on
the brink of total war in nineteen sixty one at
the time the landing of the Bay of Pigs with
John Kennedy pulling back. It also over in Albania, and
that is a factor which no researcher yet has hit.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Upon, but which I've been working on.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Mister Field said that while he was in Mexico, the
information that I'm reading to you now was provided to
him by at least three people, not one person or
two people, but three or more. He was down in
Mexico City and the information he got on the assassination
and these conclusions are based upon many people, three or
more telling him.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He was told that three assassination.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Teams of five were recruited, and that I believe is true.
I know there was a team in Miami, there was
one in Chicago, and they're one in Texas. He said
they're largely mercenaries in the killing lately used by the
Bay of Pigs fiasco from camps in Guatemala and Cozumel.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That these unemployed mercenaries were competing for assignments after the
Bam of Pigs fiasco. One of their projects was the
murder of John Kennedy, and that was only one. He said.
They were composed of the teams of Aryan types with
their team leaders from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And that's true in Mexico City planning the assassination, where
people like Clay Shaw or he Howard Hunt was stated
to be in Mexico City. He denies it, but there
is a two month period where he was alleged to
be a case officer down there at the time, just
prior to the assassination. But the Aryan types were running
the show with the anti Caster Cubans. He said, there
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was an in house credo going around, do something brave
to advance in the CIA, and they appealed to the
Hitler types who wanted glory in power. I've said a
lot for a long time that the appeal of heroism
was the talking point, and I'll go into it a
little more later. Of selling Jack Ruby to kill Lee
Harvey Oswald or bringing the men from Munich, Germany and
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military intelligence to Dallas at the time of the Kennedy assassination,
the pitch for heroism has been part of the CIA pitch.
I read last week on Dialogue Conspiracy, the Hypnosis, and
Brainwashing that the agents are told that they're being heroic.
He said, Kennedy intended to liquidate the CIA and create
a responsible and answerable intelligence gathering system. That's true, and
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in Kennedy's administration he formed the Defense Intelligence Agency, which
then became a bigger monster than the CIA, But he
did intend.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To liquidate at the CIA. Mister Fields alleges.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
That coups and violence, leaving the coups and violence to
the proper military authorities under the control of co congressional constituents,
while retaining the emergency executive power. That Kennedy wanted to
leave all the coups and violence only to the military
and not get into the villain the balance of the
CIA of overthrowing these various countries, that he claims the
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long term project of overthrowing democratic governments was in process
and Kennedy feared it in favor of fascist dictators, and
that Kennedy was working on the problem of the overthrowing
of these democratic governments, and that is one reason he
was a threat to the CIA, and thus the CIA
felt it imperative to kill Kennedy in order for them
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to survive. But that was a small facet of the
whole picture. Of the ultra conservative control of government. If
a president can't be a boat, the only one way
to win an election is to kill.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
The Democrat who wins.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Mister Fields went on to say that he'd typed this
out for me or.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
For other researchers.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The murder of John Kenny was financed largely by private
capital and interests that we can take issue about. I
know that the US Organization can take a sum of
ten million dollars and use it for counter intelligence, and
soa can the ITT.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So it's just.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Splitting Harris to say it was financed by capitol, because
the CIA puts the.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Capital into private organizations.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You see that with Robert Mayhew, who worked for Howard Hughes,
who was hired by the CIA to plan assassination teams.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And so it goes unto the private guys that the
use organization and not the CIA.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
He said that went on to say that they used
government power and government institutions, but private capital was the
funnel money, which was true. He said, it is doubtful
if Oswald or his double knew the real reason why
Kennedy was being killed.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It is doubtful that the team leader knew the real reason.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A freelance writer at a newspaper in Mexico called Samfrey,
furnished mister Fields with four photographs and displayed many of
them and named the events and the names of the agents.
And these are agents working with Lee Rvy Oswald in
Mexico City, and this is the material mister Fields.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Wants to get to the congressional committees.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
There's one picture of Oswald, the RB Oswald talking to
a subagent of the CIA or a courier who is
identified in the reports that were taken in Mexico. There's
another picture number two of the West Team. There were
these teams to kill John Kennedy and these members were
talking together. And there's another picture of the West Team
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member who was the leader of the assassination team, sitting
in a garden in conference with others and an estate
in the Lomas that campanounce that Chapuldepec colony of Mexico City.
There's another picture that mister Fields had. All these were
confiscated by the police department in Sacramento. And it's important
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to understand that the Attorney General of this state, Evil Younger,
has been accused by the researchers of covering up the
assassination of Robert Kennedy, and Robert is involved.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
His killing was.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Planned and spoken about by these groups also, so you
can see why the Sacramento police would confiscate this material
from mister Fields because it might link these two assassinations
together and two people in the highest offices of California government.
One picture showed the same person, this team leader, with
dark glasses on a sidewalk downtown in Mexico getting his
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shoes shined, and the person who took the last two
pictures himself was killed. Some of the evidence was lost,
but some of it is still available. The majority of
these photographs were concentrated on the East team that must
be the Miami killing that was planned for a month earlier,
because it appeared that the most sophisticated and the most
likely to go into action presumably would start in Miami, Florida.
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Now that is where John Kennedy took a helicopter to
a building there because he got information that he was
going to be murdered in Miami, Florida, just shortly before he.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Was to go to Chicago and then to Dallas. Mister
Field said, I saw several copies of investigators'.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Reports one was a photograph rendering by partly literate clinging
women who took pictures of names and the names of
fifteen assassins.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Some were illegible, but she wrote down the names of
these assassins. He said.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
There was serious opinion that there were two people identified
as Oswald to disrupt the shame of evidence and investigations,
and possibly each team had a member who also.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Had a double, and that also, I know is possible.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
And the evidence shown to mister Fields, he said, and
the evidence shown to me. There were statements of people
alleging that they heard various comments by these mercenaries that
they would talk like kill the project and in Spanish
it sounded like the project to kill. However, there was
a cause, a case of a some brave thing people
were bragging about to a girl at the National University
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of Obergon in Mexico. They were telling about the brave
thing that they were going to do. I guess these
Anichestro Cubans who were involved with these killing teams, brother
and other students who not only photographed this mercenary but
trailed them to a hotel and then to a state
in Chapa Tulpek Colony. There were numerous aspects a Keystone
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cop thing. Three sets of investigators were watching these people.
I asked mister Field how they happened to be watching
the CIA and Leearvy Oswald that they got these pictures,
and he said, well, after the Bay of Pigs, many
of the operators were boiling mad. They were revamping for
something in Mexico. They were violently anti communists, and mister
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Fields was more working with the socialists or the communists,
if I.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Remember the story right.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And these people were afraid that there'd be repercussions or
backlash coming upon them in Mexico City, and therefore that
they went about photographing the CIA teams and a part
of which Learvy Oswald was later recognized, because they felt
that if something came down.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I believe that this is what he told me. The
reason they were photographing them was to.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Keep a record of these anti Caasters Cubans in case
there would be trouble in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He said.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I spoke to one of the students and he will
furnish his data now for a good purpose. Whenever mister
Fields requests, if a lawyer comes forward, that will go
to the committee in Washington DC and write up this
information and notarize it or get money from the committee
in Washington. They do have the budget. They have two
million dollars to go with mister Fields and the lawyer
down to Mexico. This person that he knows has the
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data and will provide this information. He said before the
Act of twenty second November nineteen sixty three, why didn't
the Mexican people zero in on the assassination teams? And
as I say before, he says, they distrusted the United
States government and it's gestapo. The US authorities had killed
Mexican citizens with impunity and imprisoned and tortured others.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Explained to me that the police have a rifle range
to practice on, and the rifle range is called Mexico.
The United States has Mexico. Interesting because I have said
before many times on Dialogue Conspiracy that an unpublished document
has provided the researchers has claimed that the school.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
For assassins that goes all over the world.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
To many many countries, that overthrows countries, is in Mexico,
and that this is the headquarters and the rifle range.
This is interesting because mister Fields didn't know me or
no my broadcast, but he said, now New Mexico, they
say the police have a rifle range to practice on.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
The United States calls it Mexico.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
The vast population of Mexico considered President Kennedy as Nostro's
president tom bian he was our president also. They identified
with him and knowing as they do and we do
not that any democratic and half way decent president is
likely to be in.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Trouble with the gringo capitalistos.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
They were much more filmful of Kennedy's welfare than we
were in the United States. They were afraid of harm
coming to Lopez Mettios. The Americans forced the Mexican government
to allow the intended air attack against Cuba. They forced
that to be launched from Mexico soil, from the island
of Cozomel just off of Yucatan, as well as in Guatemala.
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They flaunted the Monroe doctrin and the relationships between the
Central American and nations were strained because the Mexicans and
the CIA were working together and the Mexicans.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Were taking orders from our country. He said.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
The American people were afraid they would be bombed by
atomic weapons or shooting.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
War could be fought on Mexican soil.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If we allowed these people to be there, maybe a
Castro would retaliate. The mercenaries also were American citizens, mostly
American citizens. They were obnoxious diplomats in the world, in
African countries and elsewhere. They kept voicing their hate against
the Kami gooks in Cuba. And when they were drunk
in bars in Mexico City, these anti cast Cubans and
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were making threats, he said, with all these Hitler types,
for uly defeated and spoiling to kill something they needed watching.
If you're listening to Dialogue Conspiracy and you missed the
first part of the show, this is Matty Brussel reading
some statements made by a man by the name of
mister Field who lives in Sacramando. I'll be doing a
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two part show on this and I'll continue it as allegations,
because he wants assistance of an attorney to go to
Mexico and get pictures that would show Lee, Harvey Oswald
or CIA agents that were involved in the three killer
teams to kill President John Kennedy. With all of these
Hitler types, he said, freshly defeated and spoiling to kill,
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they needed watching. Oswald would have gotten small notice if
he hadn't blown it in the Cuban consulate.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He claims that the reason.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Oswald was noticed and photographed as he went there and
made himself conspicuous, Oswald had been identified as a United
States agent or a hireling of agents, and he had
failed his mission to infiltrate Cuba. He was supposed to
go there next. He also was expendable to the Western team.
They had written him off as somebody they were going
to get rid of because of his diminished value to
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the CIA.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I take issue here.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't think it was his diminished value. I think
once he was a patsy and he was arrested and
he told the Dallas police, that's not my body with
the photograph of Oswald holding the rifle and the pistol,
and he knew the evidence was falsified, and he said,
I'm only a patsy. I didn't shoot anybody. They knew
that and arranged his killing. I believe months and months
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in advance with the hiring of Jack Ruby, and he
was expendable because he would be fingered and he would
know that he was a patsy. Mister Field said the
fifth member of the West team was never identified due
to the last minute replacements just before they left for
New Orleans. It was so important for the CIA to
kill Kennedy quickly and cleanly that other guns had to
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be used in a crossfire if the first two failed,
and this is why they needed teams of five people.
The consensus was that if Kennedy sensed popular support and
confidence of the American people across the country, he would
then expose and dismantle the Central Intelligence Agency. There's belief
he already started to organize the intelligence core to utilize
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this machinery that was limited in power.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
People in Mexico tried to warn John.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Kennedy that he would be killed, but they failed, and
then they were frightened. Mister Fields went on to say
in nineteen sixty five, in nineteen sixty six, while in Mexico,
I was informed by five separate sources.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
That there were plans made to kill Robert Kennedy when
he ran for president. This was just two and three
years after John Tinny was killed.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
And generally that the next time they would fool the
American people. That in Mexico they said the assassin was
going to be head programmed, which is what happened to
sir Han. Sir Han in nineteen sixty eight, that he
would never get a trial and then he would not
be killed by a Rudy.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
They called him Rudy instead of Ruby.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
They said, the North Americans are stupid, but they're not
that stupid to have a crossfire like before. Plans were
also made, according to mister Field, to kill missus John
Kennedy and their oldest son, John Junior by causing accidents.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
That's interesting because Robert.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Kennedy's oldest son has had three accidents, one in which
a girl was permanently paralyzed, and Carolyn Kennedy just missed
being blown.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Up by a telephone call.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
A bomb went off and a man near the automobile
was killed in London last year, and she went back
to answer the telephone and that is all that saved
her life. So we know that the Kennedy children are
not safe. He claims that Edward Kennedy was never any
threat to him. He was no threat to the CIA.
They call him a fool. Eduardo, say, KEP. Brown, there's
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no threat to the CIA. They did talk about killing
Robert Kennedy. I have a photocopy here of a postal
order sent by mister Fields to Ethel Kennedy at her home,
and it's dated and he warned her.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
It's postmarked and certified.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And he warned her in September nineteen sixty six that
there were these plans to kill Robert Kennedy, and they
heard about them in Mexico and how it would happen.
But they put mister Fields in a psych ward and
called them a nut. He sent a second letter in
October nineteen sixty six, postmarked from Santa Cruz, and I
have a copy of the postage, and again it never
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got to Ethel or Robert Kennedy. And yet down in
Mexico they're bragging about this plan to do the next
killing as far as a couple of years ahead. In
nineteen seventy six, mister Fields wrote, I've been arrested, harassed, jailed, tortured, injured,
behind bars, disabled, I'm confined with wheelchair in nineteen seventy six.
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The last of the photographs and evidence of this Kennedy
matter were stolen in nineteenes just a year ago, by
the Sacramento Police in a blatant violation of our Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Which denied me the means to exercise my first Amendment.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There was a fresh threat on my life the fourth
of March, that was three months ago, nineteen seventy seven,
by an admitted hireling of the government driving a pickup
truck number five nine one one one two, the door
of which had a painted emblem government emblem on the door.
I'd like to publish this material before I'm killed and
before all collateral evidence is stolen. And he signed this
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information I have dated March twenty third, nineteen seventy seven,
that he would swear that all of these statements are true.
He has seen, as I say, photographs of the team members.
He said that several assassination plans were revealed by hirelings
that came from the x Bay of pigs men that
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went to the Philippines and.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Were brought back.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I've heard that there was someone knowledgeable and I
have evidence of the Kennedy assassination who did come from
the Philippines. Actually he went there after the assasim nation,
knew about the woman in the polka dot dress and
the Ambassador hotel, and about the Kennedy assassination, and then
got back to Mexico about these assassination teams again.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
From the Philippines.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I don't believe, according to mister field statement that the
Kennedy assassination was a planned in Mexico City.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But that's no father error of mister Fields.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
It's just that he doesn't have access to some of
the information that the researchers have. Having spent a lot
of time locked up in mental hospitals and in his
car and in prison and kicked around or persecuted, I
happened to believe the assassination of John Kennedy was planned
in nineteen sixty at the time that John Kennedy won
the nomination in July for the Democratic presidency. The campaign
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was in Los Angeles and he was named as a
candidate for president the United States in July nineteen sixty.
And in September fourteenth, nineteen sixty, Robert Mayhew, working for
the US Organization, met at a hotel in New York
City at the Plaza Hotel September fourteenth, nineteen sixty with
John Rosselli of the Mafia and with a CIA support
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chief and Robert may who John Roselly, the CIA support
chief at the Plaza Hotel to set up assassination squad
in the United States. The CIA Office of Security Director
Sheffield Edwards, who was part of this squad, was murdered
last year after testifying before the Senate hearings. William Harvey,
the CIA official who supplied the weapons for the assassination teams,
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was murdered after testifying before the Senate hearings in seventy six.
John Roselly, who notified the federal government that some of
their assassination teams went on to plan and carry out
the assassination of President John Kennedy November twenty second, nineteen
sixty nineteen sixty three, was murdered three weeks after his testimony.
John Roselly is dead. Sheffield Edwards is dead, William Harvey
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is dead.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And these men met.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
With Robert May to talk about the assassination as early
as a few months after John Kennedy won the nomination.
Not to get off the subject, but I don't want
to forget to mention it. Speaking of death, But the
news just came in this afternoon before I came to
KLRB that mister Powers of the U two fame died
to day in Los Angeles and a helicopter mister Powers
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is an important person and witness that would have been
called before the committee in Washington on the John Kennedy assassination,
because I claimed that he knew the true story about
why Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Soviet Union when
Oswald was doing at the Minsk radio factory, and why
Powers had said that Oswald helped down that plane which
brought down the U to flight in nineteen sixty nine
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at nineteen fifty nine and ended the Summit peace conference,
the dontt in that year of Nikita Khrushchev and President Eisenhower.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I didn't mean to digress.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
We're still on the Kennedy assassination, and the point being
that we can finger the agents, the hotel rooms, the testimony,
the murders, and the beat goes on. It was going
on after Roselli was put in a drum and testify.
He cut up and was chopped up and murdered. William
Harvey was murdered, Schiffield Edwards was murdered, and now we
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have Gary Powers, the pilot of the U two who
died in Los Angeles August the first, nineteen seventy seven.
Going back to the allegations of the statements, that mister
Fields gave me. Because, as I say, this will be
a two or three part program. I will next week
go into some of the story of what was going
on in Albania and the CI in goolvement of John
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Kennedy there, and some more of his allegations. I have
a chart here that he filled out for memory that
I want to read to you the sources of his
information and who they were talking about, and it will
be kind of self explanatory. It's broken down to about
forty eight little boxes here, but as much as time
will allow, I'll give you the source of for some
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of the statements that he was making, and then go
into some more of his statements, probably next week. If
the Cuban councilate in Mexico City, they were staying at
the CIA, they were the ones that said had teams
of three teams of five members each and that.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They knew that Oswald was expendable.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
They felt the motive was the crisis in Albania between
Russia and China in nineteen seventy one and the role
that America was taking and trying to break the control
the Soviet Union wanted over Albania to cause a war
between Russia and China at that time.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It was from the Cuban Councilate.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
That he learned that the children of John Kennedy or
Missus Kennedy could be killed and that Robert Kennedy would
be assassinated. From the Socialist Party that mister Field's worked
with in Mexico and knew. They were told that the
CIA had several teams, that they had a list of
the agents.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
They knew who the agents were that were working with
the Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Again, the motive down there seemed to be the same,
and they talked about the fact that Robert Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Would be killed. And he's got a comment here that
the church was in on it.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I don't know if he is thinking of the same
church I am, but I can give the names on
the era.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I've done it before and I'll do it next week.
Various church members from the United States that were.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Sending money for the same school of assassins that passed
themselves off as missionary and the American churches through the Southwest, California,
Oregon around the United States were funding an operation for
assassins and thought they were donating for a missionary down
in Mexico. From cmfrey newspaper down in Mexico City. He
learned about these teams of assassins and also a man
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named Hunt who was not in Oil, and that could
be E.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Howard Hunt who was in Mexico or alleged in Mexico.
At the time, again, the.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Motive seemed to be a coup in Europe and it's
Cmfrey they were talking about Robert Kennedy would be killed
if he would run for president. And that's at the
time where mister Field tried to notify the family living
in Virginia that are in Washington. I think the letter
was sent to their home in Virginia. An agent from
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the Kremlin who he knew down there, who has the
code name here.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
He's given me a code name, who worked with.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
The communists in Mexico City, knew about the assassination teams,
these fifteen assassination teams, and had taken photographs. And again
the motives were the same about the Eastern European problem.
And it was from these Kremlin agents that they knew
that the man who would kill Robert Kennedy a few
years later was being programmed that there'd be no trial
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and that.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
He is being programmed in the head for the role
at the library.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
There he had a letter of an agent or where
he met with US agents who claimed that Oswald was
not the only one in.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
The Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
This was keeping minded in nineteen sixty five that these
people had these photographs and we're talking to mister Field.
They said the CIA and the FBI were afraid of
John Kennedy, which is true, and they heard talk about
the recent plans getting ready at their rifle range. I
guess down there to kill Robert Kennedy at a hotel
where he was drinking. And he has a letter here
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to signify which hotel he heard that Oswald had doubles.
Now this is interesting, he says, the real one is alive.
That's very important because I have the outline of entire
book on Oswald's doubles, the incidences of forty times where
one man was using the name Lee Harvey Oswald when
the other Oswald was in another location and could be
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verified he wasn't there at the time. And the way
that the book will come together that I want to
write on the Lee Harvey Oswald is that one of them,
the one that was in the Soviet Union, I believe
is alive. And those of you that are familiar with
the program know that I've said it before. So this
comment that he has in his little box that Oswald
had a double and the real one is alive fits
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in with my work. And I'm sure that mister Fields
had no way of getting access to that because he
had never heard my programs when he was making out
these charts.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But I said, and have a document from the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Warren commissioned staff that one Oswald left the Dallas jail
at about told thirty five on Saturday night for arrangment
or Friday night after Jack Ruby was in the jail
and the press were there, and then was brought back
about one thirty in the morning, and that's where the
switch had be brought in and the double carried through
the hall and then killed.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
I do believe that Learvy Oswald.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Was in the Soviet Union is alive, and he has
this down here and again the story that Robert Kennedy
is in danger, his oldest son is.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
In danger from students at the university.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
He says, not in the university, but students who had
rooms near the university who offered information but were frightened.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
One of them photographed.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Some of these agents, and one of these students was
identified and killed for the picture he took. And the
pictures were shot before John Kennedy was killed, but they
were a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald and the CIA team.
And again he goes into the stories of the programmed
head training of the Robert Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
The people at cmfrey.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Gave him information about these assassination teams and the photographs
and the plans to kill Robert Kennedy. He had sources
from Teluca l that's a code name for him, where
he met people who blamed the CIA and said for
many dollars, they went to Europe and not only just
in Cuba, and they trained at an estate.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And he has the name of the state.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
The only thing I'm not sure of, and maybe there's
many training fields. I've heard that of Fort me Maryland,
or South Carolina, rather that the CIA had assassination teams trained.
The one that I heard was in O'aco, Mexico, but
there could have been several estates.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
He said that this is state.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Down there they were experimenting on Darryl X, Indians and drunks,
not convicts and using drug control. These are the kind
of experiments that Ronald Reagan wanted at the UCLA School
study the causes of violent behavior, to take derelx Indians
drunks and off the streets and put electrode implants in
their brains. So I believe that the CIA does it here.
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They could do it in Mexico. And he heard about
this estate that probably could be investigated or identified where
they were getting these zombies. I guess ready for their jobs.
One gentleman, he has the source here was evasive. Tried
to warn John Kennedy in nineteen sixty three, tried to
warn him that US agents had broken into the communist
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headquarters and had killed them, and two were still alive
and being tortured in Mexico. But they wanted to warn
him about the assassination and the information that they learned
about the Kennedy assassination in trying to protect themselves. The
consensus was that the CIA or American agents killed Kennedy
for political reasons. Oswald was the goat others at the assassination.
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If Oswald did it, he would get US protection, which.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Is what Oswald.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
One Oswald could have done then he says he was
killed because he knew who the others were were is
a contradiction, but there isn't. If one Lee rvy Oswald
left the back of the Texas school Book Depository that
the Warren Commission chose to use even though mister.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Warrenell is dead, that witness or one Lee.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Rvy Oswald left the depository and Sheriff Craig saw that,
and Sheriff Craig is dead.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
There were two leearvy.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Oswalds and the Texas school Book Depository, one up on
the sixth floor shooting, one of the second floor having
a drink.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
One left the back floor and on the front door.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So there's no contradiction of what mister Fields is saying
if he says that Lee rvy Oswell was promised protection
or one was killed, because we know one was killed
in Dallas, and I believe one was given protection and
flown out of the country. This information is based aupon
experiences that this gentleman had in Mexico, of documents that
(39:51):
he tried to warn John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy about
that they never listened to. And he's willing to take
this information to the authority in Washington Sea. He said,
I was shown photographs of these team members. The freelance
writer I met at the offices of Sambury took me
to a place that he used as an office, and
(40:11):
he knows the names of the majority of people. There
were two lawyers and a doctor, he explained, and they
were disgruntled. The people who took these pictures got information.
One photo especially chose a person who was Oswald or
his double.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And this writer has photos of what he calls the.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
West Team before the assassination of those four or five people.
It was the general concesses that Oswald and a couple
of others on another team were instrumental in exposing the
assassination plots. Now he says that Oswald tried to expose it,
and that is true. At Learvy, Oswald had gone to
the Western Union and sent messages in Dallas, Texas. I
(40:52):
think he believed that he would be made of Patsy.
One of the Oswald's was exposing the plot. It said
two were overheard talking in a nightclib by a waiter
who was a good Communist, and immediately used his head
and got a street photographer to do the girly on
the laugh thing to get pictures in this nightclub. Of
these teams, Oswald blew it and shouted and became abusive
(41:13):
and the Cuban counsulate in a way not typical to
a humble, oppressed citizen from the United States. And he
acted that way not as a man without a country,
but because he wanted to be identified. He Oswald became
the object of surveyance, and his identity by the federal
agencies was established in Washington, where his code name was discovered. Well,
(41:35):
our time is out on Dialogue Conspiracy. I'm reading some
evidence or documents of a mister Field and Sacramento who
needs a lawyer. If one will step forward and help
him and speak up, we'd appreciate it, and maybe you
can help the committee in Washington to get the truth out.
We'll continue next week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
True sixty eight card from whose every not behind? It's
not for where's the truth?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
How things happened?
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Was yesterday? It wasn't eighteen nine?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
O'call quite a two of the truth store.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Those who think that it's no truth there again.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Quite of view, who mock us.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Up the far bot It only for a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
President, just the.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Choice, who should not incite playing in same one November
nine heard the screaming wrongs who knew America to change
your name were not the same.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
You and I are not you who.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Call three things enemies. You are clearing down the enemies,
and you will do what we dude to keep it
free like I'm right, she must saying, thy slave, you
must have heard that we will never really rise again.
The mind belie the plastic.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
You gave the word then on.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Just pull us down today? Who are the arch and
nave it on? Ours are great tendered.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
World, Ours about pants. So you and I we disagree.
Truth exists, but deserting a.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Cry for you, a cry as I'm prepared to leave
the bus.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
The truth. And he stares pomp say sound is true.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The saw the mine, O mine, this is the true
six o'clock, this is k l RV Carmel. That's how
(44:28):
we do. And I rewind the tapes because there are
on one side, you know. I rewind it, and never
one an imp and said up su
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