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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And once again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel. For
the past fourteen years, May has been researching and uncovering
facts and evidence from between the lines of the news
and placing them in a more thorough perspective of how conspiracy,
political assassination, and abuses of power affect us.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
All.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California, and now
May Brussel.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good afternoon. This is May Brussel, Carmel, California. This is
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and ninety three and it's
November sixth, nineteen seventy seven. I have quite a lot
of material here to share with you on this program,
and this may turn out to be a two part
series like I've done before, because it's impossible to untangle
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this web clearly.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For you and thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So I believe that this week and next week will
be a continuing series and maybe more if necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
It has to do with the killing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Of Martin Luther King, with the murder of Robert Kennedy
and John Kennedy. It has to do with a gentleman
named Robert Byron Watson who's in prison at the present
time in Memphis, Tennessee, he heard plans made in the
coin shop that he worked with in the art gallery
in Memphis, Tennessee for the assassination.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Of Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He was in the back room and he heard these
gentlemen talking about getting a King the next week when
he came to Memphis, and then he had travails of
telling officials in the federal government in nineteen seventy he
wanted to express his feelings about these assassinations because they
were being opened up again, and that's when his real
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problems begin.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
This tale also has.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To do with the international narcotic market, the syndicate that
runs the White House and the federal government, the organized
crime that Martha Mitchell said Nixon is the mafia. It
has to do with gold and silver markets and exchange,
with narcotics and stolen goods in South America. And it
has to do with what we think are the terrorist
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organizations that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Come to my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
This is why I'm talking about the subject at this time,
because the terror that is done by the hijackings and
the bank robberies.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And a lot of that's going on is not from
the left at all.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
These are not left organizations, but are funded from the right,
and are funded from people stirring up a lot of
trouble who are involved in smuggling and narcotics traffic.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And members of the John Vers Society. Not every member.
I don't mean to talk about every member, but I'm
going to talk particularly.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
About a man who's throwing a lot of weight in
Congress right now, Larry MacDonald, Congressman from Georgia, Mariotta, Georgia,
home of the Locke scandals, who is talking about malice
and communists and is probably the most far right member
of the Congress at the present time, if there is
such a thing. Many of them are, but he is
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one of the most local right wing members. And it's
this character that Robert Watson has been talking about in
his court records. He's been trying to get a hearing
and a fair shake. And he first was writing to
David Wimple, a researcher on the assassinations in upstate New York,
and he was corresponding with David Miller in Florida, and
then he got my address and my material that I
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had written and began to correspond with me. So I
have with me copies of some of his letters and
also his affidavit and sign sworn depositions, so that this
is what he was saying in court. And I'll preface
it by that because he does throw a lot of
names around and this was part of his court record,
so I want to share it with you. Robert Watson
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Brian wrote to me in September twenty eighth. This is
just last month, end of September. I'll read your part.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Of his letter, he said, I received your letter. They
did September twenty third. He's in a Memphis, Tennessee jail.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I had said that Missus Martin Luther King is not
doing anything about the assassination, and neither is Andy Young,
who was with Martin Luther King when he was assassinated.
And I didn't have much confidence in Jimmy Carter. He said,
Missus King does care and Andy Young does care. She said,
you're wrong when you say they don't. On Friday, September sixteenth,
nineteen seventy seven, my mother received a telephone call from
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the White House regarding me in my situation, and they
said some pleasant surprises were in store for you in
regards to future developments in the investigation of the King slaying.
You needn't worry about my safety presently. He had been
threatened with death threats and they put him in a
somewhat solitary confinement. He said, I'm perfectly safe here in
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the administration detention in Memphis, Tennessee. Lit afraid that something
might happen to me while I'm being transferred from here
to somewhere out in Texas. They're moving this witness to
conversations on the killing of Martin Luther King into the
Texas area now. And he also talked about these people
and the way they had planned the murder of Robert Kennedy.
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And for some reason, he's nervous about Texas than I
would be too, he said. When the White House telephoned
my mother on September sixteenth, my mother was advised that
they were looking into giving me time cut, which could
mean that I would be released.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Before the summer of nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He would like to get out of jail and pursue
the course of investigation that he was talking about before.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And he said that the.
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Judge Charles Weltner from the Atlanta Attorney in Atlanta, Georgia,
is the most conservative Republican former congressman before his defeat
by Andy Young, turned down all of my lawyer's motives
to get my civil suit out of default. A civil
suit was placed against him, a fee of eighteen hundred
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dollars was slapped upon him for naming these people in
his assassination conspiracy and as being swindlers. And yet no
investigation by the federal government or the Justice Department has
gone into what were his allegations. This is part of
the affidavit in citation that Robert Byron Watson had. He
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claims that mister Larry MacDonald of Marietta, Georgia, who is
now a Congressman in the United States House of Representatives,
was closely associated with mister Jerry Adams, who's the owner
of the Adams and Associate Agency, as well as a
Great American Silver company, and mister Herman Jackson who uses
the name Herman Ballad as an alias, and Mill Jackson,
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who is Herman Jackson's brother. And Larry MacDonald frequently went
to the Magellan Art Galleries on Peachtree Road in Atlanta,
Georgia during nineteen sixty seven and nineteen sixty eight, and
he mentions other people that were at that gallery who
owned the gallery and were associated with it, and he
claims that it was in that gallery, at the Magellan Gallery,
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that he heard conversations on the killing of Martin Luther
King and the assassination which did in fact take place
one week later. He said, in the summer nineteen seventy four,
mister Hermann Jackson, who was associated with this organization, was
active smuggling gold from South America, and in the summer
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of seventy four mister Jackson made a trip to South
America in connection with gold bullyon smuggling, and they asked
me at that time to work for the syndicate and
be involved in illegal transactions. And mister Jerry Adams, who
had this art gallery, said the syndicate had provided a
tremendous amount of campaign funds to Larry McDonald's campaign. This
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is the affidavit of Robert Byron Watson.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but this is
what he said.
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That they were bragging about paying a member the Congress
who is our most far right member of Congress these days,
and they said in quotes it was such a manner
that the funds would never be able to be proved
to be a source of future embarrassment to mister McDonald.
He claimed that money comes in from Mexico to fund
the congressmen and other persons that are involved in the syndicate,
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and that the collection agency is called the Great American
Silver Company. He went on to talk about the syndicate
sending stolen parts to South America and then in return
drugs were returned back in exchange, and they had stolen equipment,
electronic equipment, components, industrial equipment, costly material is sent down
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to South America. Four countries that he mentioned were involved
in this and only four Chile, Peru, Costa Rica and Columbia,
and that the syndicate down there receives these stolen goods
and then in return the narcotics come back and there's
no hold that the government will not do anything about
them coming in from Chile, Peru, Costa Rica or Columbia.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He said.
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Mister Herman Jackson was in charge of the smuggling from
South America through Mobile, Alabama, and then later it's sold
in the Great American Silver Company and a mister Anthony N.
Malik and mister U Franklin, owners of a coin company
Liberty Coin Company in Atlanta, Georgia are involved in these transactions.
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Now these names are important because he goes into their
activities in South America, not only their criminal activities, but
they were connected with a man named Hector in Mexico
of Mexican birth. And I think the Mexican connection is
important when they get into the Robert Kennedy assassination because
I have talked in August on Dialogue Conspiracy about the
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evidence of NK. Fields, who lives in Sacramento, with the
Mexican connections to the Robert Kennedy assassination. This information goes
on that Hector was a Mexican birth and the syndicate
brought in tons of Mexican marijuana into Atlanta, Georgia and
smuggled them through.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The port as I say, of Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He goes on and mentioned many names of the syndicate
service that had a shipment going of gold, bullion, smuggling, narcotics, smuggling, funding,
a congressman in particular, and other public officials. He goes
on to say that this mister doctor Anthony N. Malik
is a Lebanese national by birth and not a Greek descent.
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As doctor Anthony N. Malik has often stated he's told
people he's Greek and he's not. He's Lebanese and his
name would indicate he couldn't tell by the name. Mister
Herman Jackson said that doctor Anthony Malik had been for
many years associated and worked with Jerry Adams from the
mgell And Gallery and mister Harold Purcell and he Minister
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Lawrence Meyer. Mister Herman Jackson said that doctor Malick operated
as a double agent for the I suppose the CIA.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It comes later out that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
He introduces himself as CIA, but he's a double agent,
working constantly with such Arab terrorist groups as the Black
September Group, the Palestine Liberation Group, the Popular Front for
the Liberation of Palestine group, as well as various radical organizations.
And what you have here is a funding of groups
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of people which are not any different than the bider
Minehoff Gang which caused a lot of trouble in Germany
and were killed, or the Japanese Red Army. These armies
have said all along the Black September Group was funded
from the right wing. You get an international narcotics group
selling their dope, bringing into this country, playing around with
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the gold market funding terrorist groups, because the end result
of terror on the right that was used by the
czar to terrorize people in Adolf Hitler and then brought
from Germany out to countries all around the world, is
to make the demand for more police. When we had
a few hijackings in this country, we had policed every airport.
You can't laugh for kid about it at the airports,
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and it gives.
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A lot of lectures for politicians.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We have to get tough on the terrorists. The airline
people are all now angry about the terrorists. We need
more guards. We need nor put more police. Then they'll
beg for Interpol international police, which was Hitler's gestapo in
the first place, and you get a full cycle of
terrorism and right wing fanatics and people like Larry MacDonald
of the John Birch Society, high up in the society,
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who has been named by this party as being a
funding or part of groups associated with people who like
doctor Anthony Malik. He says was working with the Black September,
the Palestinian Liberation, the Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine.
This Watson, Robert Byron Watson said, I asked mister Herman
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Jackson if doctor Anthony N. Malik had anything to do
with the assassination of Robert Kennedy. He told me that
doctor Anthony Malick was the man who conceived of most
of the plans and worked out most of the details
which were employed to assassinate Robert Kennedy as well as
to cover up the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy. That
he further stated mister Herman Jackson that the assassination of
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Robert Kennedy was the true work of genius because the
American people were ready and willing to believe that some
crazy misfit of a Palestinian either acted alone or acted
for an Arab terrorist group assassinating Senator Robert Kennedy because
of his pro Israeli sentiments. Now, those statements are exactly
out of the words, as I say, of mister Field's.
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It was August first and eighth on Dialogue Conspiracy this year.
In case you don't have the tapes, you can order
tape cassettes of those shows. And he was talking about
using a misfit or a person the type of Sir
Hans Aren who would be a front or a patsy,
and that they would have a fall guy and call
a misfit who was against Robert Kennedy recognizing Israel. The
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script here of this person in a prison in Memphis, Tennessee,
who has no access to the research of mister n.
K Field, and it's by Robert Byron Watson, sworn and
stated and naming in Mexico. Their contact in Mexico overlays
the other work. And it's this kind of research coming
in from different sources, which is interesting because they have
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no way of getting to know each other, and yet
their information.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Seems to be true.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
As I say, this person said that they would use
the connection of the crazy misfit and the excuse would
be Kennedy's pro Israeli a sentiment.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Of course. It went on to say. The made motive.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Before the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy is the fact
that if he were elected president, he would have used
the information and material which he collected when he was
the Attorney General under John Kennedy. Robert Kenny was the
Attorney General to open up investigations into the activity and
business dealings of certain high ranking members of the syndicate.
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Our Opportunity was the only American official of any statue
in the Justice Department that was looking into the syndicate,
and of course that is one of the reasons, if
not the primary reason, that he and his brother both
had to be killed. Watson went on, the syndicate is
also known as the government within the government because of
the tremendous number of syndicate people who hold top level
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positions within the federal government. Well, we know that the
CIA is called the government within the government, and the
syndicate is the government within the government, and the CIA
and the syndicate work together. The CIA would have the
syndicate do their political assassinations and still do in order
to maintain controls of the exact countries he was talking about,
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like Chile and Peru and Costa Rica and Columbia, and
of course the big narcotics traffic comes in, and we
can control these countries for the narcotics profits as well
as the oil and copper contracts, so that countries like
the organizations, the businesses like itt can take over Chile
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for the copper for their telephone polls and the narcotics
didn't come in from Chile. The control of Chile, Peru,
Costa Rica, and Columbia is named here as centering this
gang of people. But Robert Kennedy was going into organized crime,
and he says the syndicate is known as a government
within a government because of the amount of people who
have top level positions within the federal government.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And it is hard to separate those two.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
If elected, Senator Robert Kennedy would certainly have reopened the
investigation into the assassination of President John Kennedy, which would
have destroyed some of the most powerful and influential people
in the United States. Once Senator Robert Kennedy became president,
he would have begun conspiring to undermine the big industries
the government within the government, and the entire American free
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enterprise system is based upon holding together those industries and
the narcotics traffic. Robert Kennedy where president of the United States,
he would have ended the war in Southeast Asia and
stopped the arms and ammunitions sale to the Arab nations,
for which the United States is a major supplier of
arms and ammunitions. And this is true. The figures on
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this can't be down at all on the amount of
business we do selling arms to the Middle East. That
action alone would have caused a major economic depression, because
the economy of the United States cannot function unless the United
States is engaged in a war, or unless the United
States is selling arms and ammunitions.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To warring nations.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
In other words, Senator Robert Kennedy was assassinated because if
he were to have been elected president, he would have
destroyed the entire American system, and he would have incited
the Blacks to run a monk in the streets of
every city in America and turned the country into a
communist dictatorship within a few short years. Senator Robert Kennedy,
according to the higher up government within a government, as
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well as the syndicate that worked at the lower level,
were talking about, had to die so that he would
never become president of the United States. Everyone within the syndicate
knew that if Kennedy assumed power and influence as the
Attorney General, he would have used that power and influence
to expose and destroy the syndicate. Watson went on to
say in his court deposition, he signed an affidavit in citation,
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and it was undersworn oath that George Wallace might have
made a good president. The George Wallace, however, if he
were elected as President, Unitaedes, if he had not been
shot and crippled or had a chance to be elected,
he would have exposed the government within a government, because
he would never allow these people to control the government
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as much as he would want it. They would control
the decisions and policies, and he says, George Wallace would
want to control them. He wouldn't want the Syndicate controlling
the policies or decisions. But with Richard Nixon, when he
was in power, the policies and decisions of organized crime
were good for him and he liked them. The biggest
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problem with George Wallace was that he was just too honest.
If Wallace ever had become president of the United States,
and if he ever got wind of all of this
going on inside the federal government, he would immediately have
to begin investigating into the Syndicate and every agency of
the federal government, which he believed warranted investigation. For those
of you that picked up on the last fifteen minutes
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or so of this show, this is May Brussel, and
I'm talking about a person named Robert Byron Watson who
worked at a gallery in Atlanta, Georgia, and heard people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Talking about oh he's in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Now. It was in an art gallery in Marietta, Georgia,
and in Atlanta that he heard them talking about the
plants for killing Martin Luther King. And a week later
King was murdered and he went on. He was put
in jail, and he'd contacted Bernard Finsterwald in Washington. We'll
go into that to try to expose what he had
heard and the people that were into these various operations
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of coin and smuggling and Heron's struggling and narcotics in general.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And he got slapped into jail.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Heroin was planted on him, and he's serving time for
that now, and he feels it's because he tried to
expose this operation. He said, Robert Kennedy had to die,
and this was the consensus of all the people that
he was working with in his particular gallery. He actually
was an art appraiser and just happened to be working
in this gallery and heard the conversations. They sent him
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out for a Coca cola and a sandwich, and he
wasn't hungry. It was a Peachtree Road in Atlanta, Georgia.
At this conversation of killing Martin Luther King took place,
and then he went on and documented the characters that
he was working with. He said, during my incarceration in
the Federal Youth Center in Ashland, Kentucky, when he was
first arrested, doctor Anthony en Malik identified himself to Missus Watson,
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his mother, as being an agent special agent for the
CIA and for the federal government. And he told Robert's mother,
Missus R. W. Watson, that the Central Intelligence Agency was
conducting an investigation on these various people that he had
named in the art gallery and he named them, and
that they were looking into the suspicion of narcotics travel
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and the assassination of doctor Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He identified himself as being of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it didn't work out that way, and what happened
was that Robert Watson was locked up as being a
snipulator and the truth didn't come out. In the meantime,
he heard that a Bernard Finsterwald in Washington, d C.
Had an organization that was investigating the assassinations. And he
didn't know that Bernard finzer Wald was of the CIA,
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and so he asked fencer Wald for help and that
again was his downfall because both fencer Wald and his
partner are in the CIA, and that got Watson locked
tighter up.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it didn't serve his purpose.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He heard that as I said that Fencerwald this office
with mister Ohlhausen, who has been identified as being in
the CIA, on a sixteenth Street in Washington, d C.
So he sent them a letter regarding doctor Anthony Malick
who visited his mother and said he was working for
the government and talked about the assassination of Martin Luther
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King and John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. And he thought
Bernard Fensterwald would be interested in the comedian investigate assassinations.
A lot of people have said that Offenser World's assistant,
mister Smith, who went on to visit Watson, was in
the CIA, and when he went for help.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
This committee was set up in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Which was a conduit or source for the researchers to
all come running with their information and their goodies. And
then Fencerwall went about dividing the real researchers, the good researchers,
from the people that would continue to cover up and
divide us or insult us.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But he trusted him. He had nowhere else to go,
and he wrote to him.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And told them about his problems, and doctor Anthony Malik,
who had visit him and missus Watson denied.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Later than he said he was with the CIA, and
he didn't have much to say about that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
He said, I'm really working for the Popular Front for
the Liberation of Palestine, and then he went on with
his organization of the Palestine Liberation group, the Popular Front group,
and did identify himself as working with the Palestinian group
who've been called the terrorists, and he has been a
part of that. Mister Watson said that during my last
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visit with mister Habash and Sarah at his office that
was located in no other than San Diego, Chile, mister
Habash and Sarah told me this is Robert Watson working
for these people before he was busted that the Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine, as well as a
Palestine liberation organization, suspected for a long time that doctor
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Anthony Malik was associated with and working for the CIA
in the United States government. And mister Habash is the
brother of the famous Arab terrorist leader, doctor George Habash
of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. He's
also director of the Santiago de Chili office of the
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Furthermore, they informed
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me that these organizations, the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine, had suspected doctor Anthony
Malik of working for the CIA for a long time
and with the federal government, and that all these people
in some capacity in Chile had worked together and ever
since doctor Malix visited to Chile immediately prior to the
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CIA back to overthrow murder of President Salvador Ayendi of Chile.
He had been with the CIA. So these men had
been down in Chile prior to the assassination of Salvador
Allende and worked with these terrorist groups and worked with
a member of Congress, if not more than a member
of Congress, and are in not only in terrorism but
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in narcotics traffic down in Central and South America. Mister
Jackson and foreigned Robert Watson that the government within a
government did.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Have Arab nationalists in there.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He named them by names, and that they worked with
the CIA, and they did arrange to have Arab terrorist sympathizers,
worked with Sir Hann, Sir Han and set him up
as a patsy to assassinate Senator Robert Kennedy. Now he
goes on to say in this affidavit that they set
up Sir Hann to assassinate Robert Kennedy out of loyal
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for the out of loyalty for the Popular Front of
the Liberation Palestine. There's one catch here that if members
of organized crime in the Palestinian group were working in
Mexico and setting up a patsy like the Fields story
in Mexico, there's still a person above them. There's a
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godfather above them, and that's the Central Intelligence Agency. Because
they made sure that a man from Lockheed in California
was the security guard for Robert Kennedy that night, and
it has been alleged that Thaine Caesar did the fatal
shots and that mister Caesar was standing behind Robert Kennedy.
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So that while one group of people at a lower
level was setting up the cover story of a Sir
Han or making him think that he did kill, or
even giving a weapon that he was capable to kill,
he didn't get the bullets, his bullets and get inside
of Robert Kennedy. But he still thinks he did, or
his memory as he wants to relived to see what happened.
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And I don't think Sir Hann has even had access
to all of the facts. Maybe he has had or
can't remember. But this team was working at the lower level,
because Watson says that they set up Sir Hen, Sir
Hen to assassinate him, and yet there isn't any hard
evidence that Sir Hen did do it. But just having
him in the Ambassador Hotel and having him with a
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gun that shoots, and having him shoot at that particular
top i was enough to make the almanacs, the world books,
the history books, the court trials say that Sir Han
did it. And yet it's the allegations of this Robert
Watson that this was set up and that they were
in this conspiracy to set up Robert Kennedy's assassination. And
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then he goes on to say in his correspondence with
David Wemple in New York and to David Millin myself,
that it was in this shop that he heard the
assassination plans for Martin Luther King. I told my mother
shortly after that Martin Luther King was going to be murdered.
And sure enough, it was only within a few days,
a week exactly that Martin Luther King was murdered. My
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life was threatened, I was threatened to be killed, and
I remained silent until nineteen seventy when I attempted to
bring this matter to the officials in Washington, d C.
That's when he contacted Bernard Finzerwald and Ken Smith. They
got the most publicity in the national media on radio
TV as big inter rest in the assassinations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So he had no one to go to but them.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And it was after he went to them and told
him about these conspiracy plans that he heard that then
his own house was threatened to be built burnt down.
He got threats that he'd be killed. They told him
as an informer, that he'd be harmed. And then some
syndicate narcotics was sent to his home from Bangkok. It
was heron and then there was a rest and he
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was put in jail and busted, and he's been threatened
to be killed in jail.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And I told Robert Watson I would do a radio
show on this, and I may do more next week on.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Dialogue conspiracy because it involves the drug agencies that hushed
him up, the threats on his life, and he hopes
to be out of jail on this bust.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He hasn't had a fair hearing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The Washington Committee, I think is passing him up. Mark
Lane went to see Robert Watson and Dick Gregory when
they did their book on Martin Luther King. Had promised
to put something in about him and they didn't, and
he was very disappointed and it's a shame they didn't.
I hope he stays alive, and maybe we'll do a
little more on this next week if it's not clear enough.
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I covered a lot of material, but that is a
person who heard plans to kill Martin Luther King and
tried to tell people and the end result was that
he was threatened and he's now in jail. Well, it's
Dialogue Conspiracy time is over now one more time.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Have a good week.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
This is Mate Brussel and Carmel California, and I'll see
you next week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
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and placing them in a more thorough perspective of how conspiracy,
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All.
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Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California, and now
May Brussel.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good afternoon. This is May Brussel, Carmel, California. This is
Dialogue Conspiracy number two hundred and ninety three and it's
November sixth, nineteen seventy seven. I have quite a lot
of material here to share with you on this program,
and this may turn out to be a two part
series like I've done before, because it's impossible to untangle
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this web clearly.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
For you and thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So I believe that this week and next week will
be a continuing series and maybe more if necessary.
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It has to do with the killing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Of Martin Luther King, with the murder of Robert Kennedy
and John Kennedy. It has to do with a gentleman
named Robert Byron Watson who's in prison at the present
time in Memphis, Tennessee, he heard plans made in the
coin shop that he worked with in the art gallery
in Memphis, Tennessee for the assassination.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Of Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
He was in the back room and he heard these
gentlemen talking about getting a King the next week when
he came to Memphis, and then he had travails of
telling officials in the federal government in nineteen seventy he
wanted to express his feelings about these assassinations because they
were being opened up again, and that's when his real
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problems begin.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
This tale also has.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
To do with the international narcotic market, the syndicate that
runs the White House and the federal government, the organized
crime that Martha Mitchell said Nixon is the mafia. It
has to do with gold and silver markets and exchange,
with narcotics and stolen goods in South America. And it
has to do with what we think are the terrorist
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organizations that.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Come to my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
This is why I'm talking about the subject at this time,
because the terror that is done by the hijackings and
the bank robberies.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And a lot of that's going on is not from
the left at all.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
These are not left organizations, but are funded from the right,
and are funded from people stirring up a lot of
trouble who are involved in smuggling and narcotics traffic.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
And members of the John Vers Society. Not every member.
I don't mean to talk about every member, but I'm
going to talk particularly.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
About a man who's throwing a lot of weight in
Congress right now, Larry MacDonald, Congressman from Georgia, Mariotta, Georgia,
home of the Locke scandals, who is talking about malice
and communists and is probably the most far right member
of the Congress at the present time, if there is
such a thing. Many of them are, but he is
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one of the most local right wing members. And it's
this character that Robert Watson has been talking about in
his court records. He's been trying to get a hearing
and a fair shake. And he first was writing to
David Wimple, a researcher on the assassinations in upstate New York,
and he was corresponding with David Miller in Florida, and
then he got my address and my material that I
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had written and began to correspond with me. So I
have with me copies of some of his letters and
also his affidavit and sign sworn depositions, so that this
is what he was saying in court. And I'll preface
it by that because he does throw a lot of
names around and this was part of his court record,
so I want to share it with you. Robert Watson
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Brian wrote to me in September twenty eighth. This is
just last month, end of September. I'll read your part.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Of his letter, he said, I received your letter. They
did September twenty third. He's in a Memphis, Tennessee jail.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I had said that Missus Martin Luther King is not
doing anything about the assassination, and neither is Andy Young,
who was with Martin Luther King when he was assassinated.
And I didn't have much confidence in Jimmy Carter. He said,
Missus King does care and Andy Young does care. She said,
you're wrong when you say they don't. On Friday, September sixteenth,
nineteen seventy seven, my mother received a telephone call from
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the White House regarding me in my situation, and they
said some pleasant surprises were in store for you in
regards to future developments in the investigation of the King slaying.
You needn't worry about my safety presently. He had been
threatened with death threats and they put him in a
somewhat solitary confinement. He said, I'm perfectly safe here in
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the administration detention in Memphis, Tennessee. Lit afraid that something
might happen to me while I'm being transferred from here
to somewhere out in Texas. They're moving this witness to
conversations on the killing of Martin Luther King into the
Texas area now. And he also talked about these people
and the way they had planned the murder of Robert Kennedy.
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And for some reason, he's nervous about Texas than I
would be too, he said. When the White House telephoned
my mother on September sixteenth, my mother was advised that
they were looking into giving me time cut, which could
mean that I would be released.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Before the summer of nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He would like to get out of jail and pursue
the course of investigation that he was talking about before.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
And he said that the.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Judge Charles Weltner from the Atlanta Attorney in Atlanta, Georgia,
is the most conservative Republican former congressman before his defeat
by Andy Young, turned down all of my lawyer's motives
to get my civil suit out of default. A civil
suit was placed against him, a fee of eighteen hundred
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dollars was slapped upon him for naming these people in
his assassination conspiracy and as being swindlers. And yet no
investigation by the federal government or the Justice Department has
gone into what were his allegations. This is part of
the affidavit in citation that Robert Byron Watson had. He
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claims that mister Larry MacDonald of Marietta, Georgia, who is
now a Congressman in the United States House of Representatives,
was closely associated with mister Jerry Adams, who's the owner
of the Adams and Associate Agency, as well as a
Great American Silver company, and mister Herman Jackson who uses
the name Herman Ballad as an alias, and Mill Jackson,
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who is Herman Jackson's brother. And Larry MacDonald frequently went
to the Magellan Art Galleries on Peachtree Road in Atlanta,
Georgia during nineteen sixty seven and nineteen sixty eight, and
he mentions other people that were at that gallery who
owned the gallery and were associated with it, and he
claims that it was in that gallery, at the Magellan Gallery,
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that he heard conversations on the killing of Martin Luther
King and the assassination which did in fact take place
one week later. He said, in the summer nineteen seventy four,
mister Hermann Jackson, who was associated with this organization, was
active smuggling gold from South America, and in the summer
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of seventy four mister Jackson made a trip to South
America in connection with gold bullyon smuggling, and they asked
me at that time to work for the syndicate and
be involved in illegal transactions. And mister Jerry Adams, who
had this art gallery, said the syndicate had provided a
tremendous amount of campaign funds to Larry McDonald's campaign. This
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is the affidavit of Robert Byron Watson.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm not saying it's true or untrue, but this is
what he said.
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That they were bragging about paying a member the Congress
who is our most far right member of Congress these days,
and they said in quotes it was such a manner
that the funds would never be able to be proved
to be a source of future embarrassment to mister McDonald.
He claimed that money comes in from Mexico to fund
the congressmen and other persons that are involved in the syndicate,
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and that the collection agency is called the Great American
Silver Company. He went on to talk about the syndicate
sending stolen parts to South America and then in return
drugs were returned back in exchange, and they had stolen equipment,
electronic equipment, components, industrial equipment, costly material is sent down
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to South America. Four countries that he mentioned were involved
in this and only four Chile, Peru, Costa Rica and Columbia,
and that the syndicate down there receives these stolen goods
and then in return the narcotics come back and there's
no hold that the government will not do anything about
them coming in from Chile, Peru, Costa Rica or Columbia.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He said.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Mister Herman Jackson was in charge of the smuggling from
South America through Mobile, Alabama, and then later it's sold
in the Great American Silver Company and a mister Anthony N.
Malik and mister U Franklin, owners of a coin company
Liberty Coin Company in Atlanta, Georgia are involved in these transactions.
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Now these names are important because he goes into their
activities in South America, not only their criminal activities, but
they were connected with a man named Hector in Mexico
of Mexican birth. And I think the Mexican connection is
important when they get into the Robert Kennedy assassination because
I have talked in August on Dialogue Conspiracy about the
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evidence of NK. Fields, who lives in Sacramento, with the
Mexican connections to the Robert Kennedy assassination. This information goes
on that Hector was a Mexican birth and the syndicate
brought in tons of Mexican marijuana into Atlanta, Georgia and
smuggled them through.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
The port as I say, of Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
He goes on and mentioned many names of the syndicate
service that had a shipment going of gold, bullion, smuggling, narcotics, smuggling, funding,
a congressman in particular, and other public officials. He goes
on to say that this mister doctor Anthony N. Malik
is a Lebanese national by birth and not a Greek descent.
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As doctor Anthony N. Malik has often stated he's told
people he's Greek and he's not. He's Lebanese and his
name would indicate he couldn't tell by the name. Mister
Herman Jackson said that doctor Anthony Malik had been for
many years associated and worked with Jerry Adams from the
mgell And Gallery and mister Harold Purcell and he Minister
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Lawrence Meyer. Mister Herman Jackson said that doctor Malick operated
as a double agent for the I suppose the CIA.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
It comes later out that.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
He introduces himself as CIA, but he's a double agent,
working constantly with such Arab terrorist groups as the Black
September Group, the Palestine Liberation Group, the Popular Front for
the Liberation of Palestine group, as well as various radical organizations.
And what you have here is a funding of groups
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of people which are not any different than the bider
Minehoff Gang which caused a lot of trouble in Germany
and were killed, or the Japanese Red Army. These armies
have said all along the Black September Group was funded
from the right wing. You get an international narcotics group
selling their dope, bringing into this country, playing around with
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the gold market funding terrorist groups, because the end result
of terror on the right that was used by the
czar to terrorize people in Adolf Hitler and then brought
from Germany out to countries all around the world, is
to make the demand for more police. When we had
a few hijackings in this country, we had policed every airport.
You can't laugh for kid about it at the airports,
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and it gives.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
A lot of lectures for politicians.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We have to get tough on the terrorists. The airline
people are all now angry about the terrorists. We need
more guards. We need nor put more police. Then they'll
beg for Interpol international police, which was Hitler's gestapo in
the first place, and you get a full cycle of
terrorism and right wing fanatics and people like Larry MacDonald
of the John Birch Society, high up in the society,
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who has been named by this party as being a
funding or part of groups associated with people who like
doctor Anthony Malik. He says was working with the Black September,
the Palestinian Liberation, the Popular Front of the Liberation of Palestine.
This Watson, Robert Byron Watson said, I asked mister Herman
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Jackson if doctor Anthony N. Malik had anything to do
with the assassination of Robert Kennedy. He told me that
doctor Anthony Malick was the man who conceived of most
of the plans and worked out most of the details
which were employed to assassinate Robert Kennedy as well as
to cover up the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy. That
he further stated mister Herman Jackson that the assassination of
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Robert Kennedy was the true work of genius because the
American people were ready and willing to believe that some
crazy misfit of a Palestinian either acted alone or acted
for an Arab terrorist group assassinating Senator Robert Kennedy because
of his pro Israeli sentiments. Now, those statements are exactly
out of the words, as I say, of mister Field's.
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It was August first and eighth on Dialogue Conspiracy this year.
In case you don't have the tapes, you can order
tape cassettes of those shows. And he was talking about
using a misfit or a person the type of Sir
Hans Aren who would be a front or a patsy,
and that they would have a fall guy and call
a misfit who was against Robert Kennedy recognizing Israel. The
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script here of this person in a prison in Memphis, Tennessee,
who has no access to the research of mister n.
K Field, and it's by Robert Byron Watson, sworn and
stated and naming in Mexico. Their contact in Mexico overlays
the other work. And it's this kind of research coming
in from different sources, which is interesting because they have
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no way of getting to know each other, and yet
their information.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Seems to be true.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
As I say, this person said that they would use
the connection of the crazy misfit and the excuse would
be Kennedy's pro Israeli a sentiment.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Of course. It went on to say. The made motive.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Before the assassination of Senator Robert Kennedy is the fact
that if he were elected president, he would have used
the information and material which he collected when he was
the Attorney General under John Kennedy. Robert Kenny was the
Attorney General to open up investigations into the activity and
business dealings of certain high ranking members of the syndicate.
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Our Opportunity was the only American official of any statue
in the Justice Department that was looking into the syndicate,
and of course that is one of the reasons, if
not the primary reason, that he and his brother both
had to be killed. Watson went on, the syndicate is
also known as the government within the government because of
the tremendous number of syndicate people who hold top level
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positions within the federal government. Well, we know that the
CIA is called the government within the government, and the
syndicate is the government within the government, and the CIA
and the syndicate work together. The CIA would have the
syndicate do their political assassinations and still do in order
to maintain controls of the exact countries he was talking about,
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like Chile and Peru and Costa Rica and Columbia, and
of course the big narcotics traffic comes in, and we
can control these countries for the narcotics profits as well
as the oil and copper contracts, so that countries like
the organizations, the businesses like itt can take over Chile
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for the copper for their telephone polls and the narcotics
didn't come in from Chile. The control of Chile, Peru,
Costa Rica, and Columbia is named here as centering this
gang of people. But Robert Kennedy was going into organized crime,
and he says the syndicate is known as a government
within a government because of the amount of people who
have top level positions within the federal government.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
And it is hard to separate those two.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
If elected, Senator Robert Kennedy would certainly have reopened the
investigation into the assassination of President John Kennedy, which would
have destroyed some of the most powerful and influential people
in the United States. Once Senator Robert Kennedy became president,
he would have begun conspiring to undermine the big industries
the government within the government, and the entire American free
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enterprise system is based upon holding together those industries and
the narcotics traffic. Robert Kennedy where president of the United States,
he would have ended the war in Southeast Asia and
stopped the arms and ammunitions sale to the Arab nations,
for which the United States is a major supplier of
arms and ammunitions. And this is true. The figures on
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this can't be down at all on the amount of
business we do selling arms to the Middle East. That
action alone would have caused a major economic depression, because
the economy of the United States cannot function unless the United
States is engaged in a war, or unless the United
States is selling arms and ammunitions.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
To warring nations.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
In other words, Senator Robert Kennedy was assassinated because if
he were to have been elected president, he would have
destroyed the entire American system, and he would have incited
the Blacks to run a monk in the streets of
every city in America and turned the country into a
communist dictatorship within a few short years. Senator Robert Kennedy,
according to the higher up government within a government, as
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well as the syndicate that worked at the lower level,
were talking about, had to die so that he would
never become president of the United States. Everyone within the syndicate
knew that if Kennedy assumed power and influence as the
Attorney General, he would have used that power and influence
to expose and destroy the syndicate. Watson went on to
say in his court deposition, he signed an affidavit in citation,
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and it was undersworn oath that George Wallace might have
made a good president. The George Wallace, however, if he
were elected as President, Unitaedes, if he had not been
shot and crippled or had a chance to be elected,
he would have exposed the government within a government, because
he would never allow these people to control the government
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as much as he would want it. They would control
the decisions and policies, and he says, George Wallace would
want to control them. He wouldn't want the Syndicate controlling
the policies or decisions. But with Richard Nixon, when he
was in power, the policies and decisions of organized crime
were good for him and he liked them. The biggest
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problem with George Wallace was that he was just too honest.
If Wallace ever had become president of the United States,
and if he ever got wind of all of this
going on inside the federal government, he would immediately have
to begin investigating into the Syndicate and every agency of
the federal government, which he believed warranted investigation. For those
of you that picked up on the last fifteen minutes
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or so of this show, this is May Brussel, and
I'm talking about a person named Robert Byron Watson who
worked at a gallery in Atlanta, Georgia, and heard people.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Talking about oh he's in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Now. It was in an art gallery in Marietta, Georgia,
and in Atlanta that he heard them talking about the
plants for killing Martin Luther King. And a week later
King was murdered and he went on. He was put
in jail, and he'd contacted Bernard Finsterwald in Washington. We'll
go into that to try to expose what he had
heard and the people that were into these various operations
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of coin and smuggling and Heron's struggling and narcotics in general.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
And he got slapped into jail.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Heroin was planted on him, and he's serving time for
that now, and he feels it's because he tried to
expose this operation. He said, Robert Kennedy had to die,
and this was the consensus of all the people that
he was working with in his particular gallery. He actually
was an art appraiser and just happened to be working
in this gallery and heard the conversations. They sent him
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out for a Coca cola and a sandwich, and he
wasn't hungry. It was a Peachtree Road in Atlanta, Georgia.
At this conversation of killing Martin Luther King took place,
and then he went on and documented the characters that
he was working with. He said, during my incarceration in
the Federal Youth Center in Ashland, Kentucky, when he was
first arrested, doctor Anthony en Malik identified himself to Missus Watson,
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his mother, as being an agent special agent for the
CIA and for the federal government. And he told Robert's mother,
Missus R. W. Watson, that the Central Intelligence Agency was
conducting an investigation on these various people that he had
named in the art gallery and he named them, and
that they were looking into the suspicion of narcotics travel
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and the assassination of doctor Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
He identified himself as being of the CIA.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it didn't work out that way, and what happened
was that Robert Watson was locked up as being a
snipulator and the truth didn't come out. In the meantime,
he heard that a Bernard Finsterwald in Washington, d C.
Had an organization that was investigating the assassinations. And he
didn't know that Bernard finzer Wald was of the CIA,
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and so he asked fencer Wald for help and that
again was his downfall because both fencer Wald and his
partner are in the CIA, and that got Watson locked
tighter up.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And it didn't serve his purpose.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He heard that as I said that Fencerwald this office
with mister Ohlhausen, who has been identified as being in
the CIA, on a sixteenth Street in Washington, d C.
So he sent them a letter regarding doctor Anthony Malick
who visited his mother and said he was working for
the government and talked about the assassination of Martin Luther
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King and John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. And he thought
Bernard Fensterwald would be interested in the comedian investigate assassinations.
A lot of people have said that Offenser World's assistant,
mister Smith, who went on to visit Watson, was in
the CIA, and when he went for help.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
This committee was set up in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Which was a conduit or source for the researchers to
all come running with their information and their goodies. And
then Fencerwall went about dividing the real researchers, the good researchers,
from the people that would continue to cover up and
divide us or insult us.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
But he trusted him. He had nowhere else to go,
and he wrote to him.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And told them about his problems, and doctor Anthony Malik,
who had visit him and missus Watson denied.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Later than he said he was with the CIA, and
he didn't have much to say about that.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
He said, I'm really working for the Popular Front for
the Liberation of Palestine, and then he went on with
his organization of the Palestine Liberation group, the Popular Front group,
and did identify himself as working with the Palestinian group
who've been called the terrorists, and he has been a
part of that. Mister Watson said that during my last
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visit with mister Habash and Sarah at his office that
was located in no other than San Diego, Chile, mister
Habash and Sarah told me this is Robert Watson working
for these people before he was busted that the Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine, as well as a
Palestine liberation organization, suspected for a long time that doctor
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Anthony Malik was associated with and working for the CIA
in the United States government. And mister Habash is the
brother of the famous Arab terrorist leader, doctor George Habash
of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. He's
also director of the Santiago de Chili office of the
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Furthermore, they informed
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me that these organizations, the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Popular
Front for the Liberation of Palestine, had suspected doctor Anthony
Malik of working for the CIA for a long time
and with the federal government, and that all these people
in some capacity in Chile had worked together and ever
since doctor Malix visited to Chile immediately prior to the
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CIA back to overthrow murder of President Salvador Ayendi of Chile.
He had been with the CIA. So these men had
been down in Chile prior to the assassination of Salvador
Allende and worked with these terrorist groups and worked with
a member of Congress, if not more than a member
of Congress, and are in not only in terrorism but
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in narcotics traffic down in Central and South America. Mister
Jackson and foreigned Robert Watson that the government within a
government did.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Have Arab nationalists in there.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He named them by names, and that they worked with
the CIA, and they did arrange to have Arab terrorist sympathizers,
worked with Sir Hann, Sir Han and set him up
as a patsy to assassinate Senator Robert Kennedy. Now he
goes on to say in this affidavit that they set
up Sir Hann to assassinate Robert Kennedy out of loyal
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for the out of loyalty for the Popular Front of
the Liberation Palestine. There's one catch here that if members
of organized crime in the Palestinian group were working in
Mexico and setting up a patsy like the Fields story
in Mexico, there's still a person above them. There's a
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godfather above them, and that's the Central Intelligence Agency. Because
they made sure that a man from Lockheed in California
was the security guard for Robert Kennedy that night, and
it has been alleged that Thaine Caesar did the fatal
shots and that mister Caesar was standing behind Robert Kennedy.
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So that while one group of people at a lower
level was setting up the cover story of a Sir
Han or making him think that he did kill, or
even giving a weapon that he was capable to kill,
he didn't get the bullets, his bullets and get inside
of Robert Kennedy. But he still thinks he did, or
his memory as he wants to relived to see what happened.
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And I don't think Sir Hann has even had access
to all of the facts. Maybe he has had or
can't remember. But this team was working at the lower level,
because Watson says that they set up Sir Hen, Sir
Hen to assassinate him, and yet there isn't any hard
evidence that Sir Hen did do it. But just having
him in the Ambassador Hotel and having him with a
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gun that shoots, and having him shoot at that particular
top i was enough to make the almanacs, the world books,
the history books, the court trials say that Sir Han
did it. And yet it's the allegations of this Robert
Watson that this was set up and that they were
in this conspiracy to set up Robert Kennedy's assassination. And
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then he goes on to say in his correspondence with
David Wemple in New York and to David Millin myself,
that it was in this shop that he heard the
assassination plans for Martin Luther King. I told my mother
shortly after that Martin Luther King was going to be murdered.
And sure enough, it was only within a few days,
a week exactly that Martin Luther King was murdered. My
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life was threatened, I was threatened to be killed, and
I remained silent until nineteen seventy when I attempted to
bring this matter to the officials in Washington, d C.
That's when he contacted Bernard Finzerwald and Ken Smith. They
got the most publicity in the national media on radio
TV as big inter rest in the assassinations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So he had no one to go to but them.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And it was after he went to them and told
him about these conspiracy plans that he heard that then
his own house was threatened to be built burnt down.
He got threats that he'd be killed. They told him
as an informer, that he'd be harmed. And then some
syndicate narcotics was sent to his home from Bangkok. It
was heron and then there was a rest and he
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was put in jail and busted, and he's been threatened
to be killed in jail.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And I told Robert Watson I would do a radio
show on this, and I may do more next week on.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Dialogue conspiracy because it involves the drug agencies that hushed
him up, the threats on his life, and he hopes
to be out of jail on this bust.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
He hasn't had a fair hearing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
The Washington Committee, I think is passing him up. Mark
Lane went to see Robert Watson and Dick Gregory when
they did their book on Martin Luther King. Had promised
to put something in about him and they didn't, and
he was very disappointed and it's a shame they didn't.
I hope he stays alive, and maybe we'll do a
little more on this next week if it's not clear enough.
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I covered a lot of material, but that is a
person who heard plans to kill Martin Luther King and
tried to tell people and the end result was that
he was threatened and he's now in jail. Well, it's
Dialogue Conspiracy time is over now one more time.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Have a good week.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
This is Mate Brussel and Carmel California, and I'll see
you next week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.