October 5, 2025 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
It's time once again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel.
For the past fourteen years, May has been researching and
uncovering facts and evidence from between the lines of the
news inflacing them in a more thorough perspective of how conspiracy,
political assassination, and abuses of power affect us all. I
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think Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California, and
now May Brussel.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This is May Brussel and Carmel, California, and it's January
the eighth, nineteen seventy eight. This is Dialogue Conspiracy number
three hundred and three. I started out this year being
very optimistic. I had about eight days of optimism. Now
I'm not feeling so good. Certain things happen in the
economy this Wednesday, pledges the Federal Reserve made about money
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that can't be backed up in our gold supply, and
new directions that I see in the newspaper that are
discouraging to me. I'll share some of them with you
and then get on with some other information. Larry Flint,
the owner of the Hustler magazine that I spoke about
a few weeks ago on Dialogue Conspiracy pledged to Paul
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Krazer that he could run his magazine, and he's going
to be taking over Hustler magazine.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I just.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Heard that Flint's going to offer one million dollars to
the person who can solve the John Kennedy assassination. I
heard that this is a new offer that's going to
be put in his magazines. Is one catch, and that
is that the money will be given to those people
who are screened through by a panel of three people,
specifically Mark Lane, Dick Gregory, and one other party. Now
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that's very discouraging because Mark Lane moved out from Washington,
d C. Where the House of Like Committee is doing
their research supposedly on the Kennedy assassination now and instead
of working with Congress, he's moved to the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I feel that he and.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Dick Gregory will work with Don Freed and be one
more agent of cover up of the Kennedy assassination. I
believe that Mark has been one of the biggest stumbling
blocks to the truth in this affair, and I've been
tagg and I stick towards him for years. There are
very few of the researchers that respect Mark or can
even stand him. And Dick Gregory is not a researcher,
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so I feel this is a showbiz thing and if
any serious documentation is presented to them, it won't receive
the credit, and the men will take pieces from it
that might be of value and distort other material. I
know that Mark Lane took credit in Washington to make
sure that none of my information would get before the
House Select Committee. He told them I was crazy and
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at koop and diverted it. So I know that he
would do this for Larry Flint. I would hope that
Paul Krasner, as the editor of Hustler, would present what
I have to give to Larry Flint.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
In good faith and not pass it in front of
Mark Lane or Dick Gregory.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There's one thing that did disturb me when Krasner took
over Hustler magazine. He suggested the first article I write
be about son of Sam in the mk Ultra program,
and then he suggested I do another article on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The rock musicians, of killing the rock musicians. But he
said something really strange to me.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He said, don't write about Lee Harvey Oswald. He says,
that's kind of overdone. Don't get into the Oswald thing.
Now that's interesting because two weeks after he told me this,
after Paul Krasner said that Flint, who must have some
consuming desire to know who killed John Kennedy, is coming
out with this huge offer, And yet Krasner said to me,
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don't write about Lee Harvey Oswald. Now I know, and
I've said before in dialogue conspiracy. The thing that these
people are afraid of. What they're most afraid of, is
to expose or disrobe the plan of the assassinations, the
overall plan, what's going on from the Tsarus Russia, to
the forming of Nazi Germany, the importation of Nazis to America,
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the use of Czarus like Marina Oswald, George de Morinschel,
the links to the oil company, the defense industry, to
Werter von Braun of NASA and Walter Dornberger from Bell Aerospace,
the use of Nazis in the assassination Albert Osborne, Lee
Harvey Oswald, the Defense Industry Security Command, the FBI, William
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Sullivan of Division five. These are the things that will
not be allowed to come out. So they offer it,
from my own interpretation so far, is a sham.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I will produce a.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Serious document and try to get it to mister Flint
and put it in a book form. He's going to
have a book publishing company and maybe he'll publish the book.
With my explanations, I would never present it to Dick
Gregory and Mark Lanyam believed that they were serious about
wanting to know who killed John Kennedy. A new name
cropped up in my research this week. That's worth noting.
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And for those of that take the tapes every week
and keep getting books on the subjects and get informed
on them, write the name down and let me know
if you have any information about him, or go to
the library and the indexes.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And see if you can find this name. It's Peter P. E. T. E. R.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Bessel B S S E l L. He lived in Oceanside, California.
He seems to be missing, which is a syndrome that
we get with these very important witnesses.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The first time I heard his name was.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
From David Astroland several weeks ago with regards to a
movie that's being made on the Kennedy assassination in Canada.
I think I mentioned that on the show and that
Anthony Summers, the man who wrote the file on the Tsar,
saw documents or knew this mister Bessel and said that
Henry Kissinger had showed him information on the taking of
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the Tsar and the Tsar's family out of Russia, that
the US Army assisted in evacuation of the entire family
of the Romanovs out of Russia at the time of
the revolution, and that they were in fact alive and
were never killed as depicted so many times in movies.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Or in books.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The second time I heard about Peter Bessel was this
week from a k L R B listener in London,
England who gets the tapes of these shows. He was
sending me a detailed breakdown of the English political system
and the parties and the various conspiracies as they pertain
to our United States intrigues. And he talked about the
Liberal Party in particular and a man named Norman Scott
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who was going to be killed again. We have these
near murder assassination stories. Mister Newton was to kill mister
Scott of the Liberal Party. Mister Newton lost his courage,
he killed the dog instead and got an attorney and
spoke about the plans to kill this particular member of
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the Liberal Party. He was a friend of Jeremy Thorpe,
another leader of the Liberal Party in England. Newton came
the United States where a truck almost ran over him,
such as the one that killed Murray Chottner and ran
over Clay Shaw in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
These important witnesses.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
A truck almost ran over him, and therefore he got
very nervous, and he began to talk about who paid
money for mister Newton to want who wanted him killed,
that he received money, and the name that came out
was Peter Bessel, who lives in Ocean Side, California, a
man obviously with the CIA, or must be working close
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enough with Kissing Her to have this special information on
the departure of the Romanovs from Russia. Well, the killing,
of the near killing didn't take place, and the witness
got terrified and he went to his lawyer. And now
the lawyer is talking about a story which he's saying
in London. According to the London sources that I have
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that when this story comes out, it's going to be
bigger than Watergate. That the story surrounding Peter Bessel and
the reasons for wanting Scott killed is one of the
biggest stories of the Western world, and if the true
implications come out, it will shake the Western world. And
that could only have meaning in terms of the political
assassinations or the removal of the Romanovs to Poland where
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they were taken and they were not killed. And I
think that the Kennedy assassinations and removal of the Romanovs
are part and parcel of the same problem.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They're not separate.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And I think the as I said, the implications of
this story are big. So any of you have ever
heard of mister Peter Bessel.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He's missing now.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
He lived in Oceana Side, California, and I really would
like some information about his relationships to Henry Kissinger or
the political parties in London. If you take the London Times,
let me know more about him, and let's see if
we can put these pieces together. I spoke today with
a researcher in Chicago, Sherman Skulnik, who has had been
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very privileged spent time with Alexei Nikola.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I can pronounce it Romanov, the son of the Tsar.
He's seen him.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He lives in New York City, in ke Gardens. I
wrote to the Tsarevich I wrote several months ago, about
a half a year ago, wanted to see if I
could contact him. I had his address, I have his
number now. He went by the name of Colonel Galinevsky
in Poland. He went to a military academy after he
left Russia. Sherman Skolnik is a fine researcher, and he's
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absolutely convinced that this is the Tsar's son. He claims
that the Chase Manhattan Bank has made an offer to
settle for eighty million dollars with this person if he
doesn't put a claim on their holdings, because there's four
hundred million dollars in gold in the Chase Manhattan Banks,
it would break the Chase Manhattan Bank at this time
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if he pulled out his true inheritance that it's sitting there.
The Romanovs alone, not as the Tsar, but just as
a family had money tremendous holy with Marshall Field, with
US Steel, General mose in the Midwest, Canada and Illinois.
And this particular party is only allowed to live on
a pension given to him by the CIA, and he's
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afraid for his life and cannot make a claim on
the fortune. He isn't living well, but he doesn't want
to make a claim on the fortune. Sherman says he
has proved positive that he is the Czar's son.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He came in the United States in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Seven, right after John Kennedy was inaugurated, and Sherman's scullic
believes that was just one more reason to assassinate John Kennedy,
that if he had surfaced and told his true story
and claimed part of his wealth, the Rockefellers would be
wiped out. And we know that George de Morenschild, who
worked as Lee Harvey Oswald's closest CIA contact and friend,
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also worked with Nelson Rockefeller and the Chase Manhattan Bank
ever since he came to the United States. He was
a conduit and the use of Oswald the patsy to
blame him instead of the higher ups and government was
very convenient. But Sherman feels that this was a very
good motive that has never been brought out for another
reason for getting rid of the Kennedys. When he arrived
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in Langley, Virginia, Alexei was met by a CIA agent
who then turned out to be a KGB agent, the
same person that he had known in the Soviet Union.
His sister, Eugenny Romanov, lives in Oak Park section of Chicago, Illinois,
and she's still alive Anastagias in the United States in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I've talked about her before on this program with Lydia
Blade's when we talked about the book the File on
the Tzar.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
There's a book called Lincoln and the Tzar. I don't
have the author, but I'm going to try.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And get it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Sherman Scolnick saw the book when he was in New
York with Nick Lai and they talked about Alexi Rada
and they talked about this book. It claims that mister Seward,
William Seward, was responsible for Abraham Lincoln's death.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
He was the Secretary of the State at the time,
and of course they blamed John Wilkes Bluth.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That Seuart also was responsible for the purchase of Alaska,
called Seward's folly at the time, but that the Czar
and the Romanovs actually owned Alaska, and that in nineteen
sixty six there was an agreement which expired, and that
one of the allegations of this party is that armand Hammer,
who went over to the Soviet Union and worked out
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this forty billion dollar deal for gas through the Bearing Straits.
Was involved with working with the Romanovs and the Alaskan
Territory and legally, according to the explanation of Sherman Skolnik
and Alexei Romanov, the Alaska Territory actually belongs to the
Soviet Union and that they're using it as a trump card.
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They could take Alaska back if they wann't, but it's
a hole they have over the United States because they
know the facts in this case full well, and keep
this as a trump card for getting out of Vietnam
or for making sure we don't go too far in
our foreign policy with our weapons systems. He has documented
dental proof from England of his charts going back as
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far as nineteen o nine.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This party had him affiliate.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Since birth and he stays on a very strict regimented
diret which he claims has allowed him to live. Interesting
that when this Colonel Golanofsky was brought to the United
States and then identified as the son of the Tsar,
the attorney that he had when he came here was
Harry Rothblatt, who later became the attorney for Frank Sturgis
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and the Watergate defendants, and he blames Harry Rothblatt for
letting him down and going along with the Rockefellas in
New York City and with the CIA and not pursuing
the claims because, in quotes, it would break Rocky's bank.
Henry Rothblatt has been working for that team and was
the attorney for Colonel Golanowsky when he came to the
United States. The British archives are way ahead of the
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United States. In nineteen seventy, he says, they revealed information
of how the Romanovs escaped, and this was in England
but was not allowed to be mass produced in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
The family took a British cruiser.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They were assisted from where they were taken prisoner by
the United States Army United States soldiers that were there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They were taken by a British cruiser. They came out
of Russia on the Siberian side, went to Molda and
then they set up life in Poland. He says his
father's grave, the Tsar of Russia, is marked. It's in Poland.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
His father died in nineteen fifty two. His mother's grave
is in Poland. She died in nineteen twenty four. His
inheritance began automatically in nineteen fifty two, at the time
of the father's death. They sent Alexi to a military academy,
and during World War Two he joined Polish intelligence, where
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he went inside Russia as a double agent, working against
the Soviets. As a Polish agent, he was with the
Polish Army during the war. He did no fighting, of course,
He just did intelligent work, intelligence work. He also did
some writing for Randolph Hurst, putting down the Rocketfellows in
the journal America Newspapers.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
In New York that was once owned by Randolph Hurst.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There's an interesting statement by Alexia Romanov, who worked in
double intelligence.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
He said that Heinrich Himmler, the Nazi coworker of Adolf Hitler,
was allegedly killed in an automobile accident a hair hair
pin turn in Germany.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
He says it didn't happen at all, that Himmler is
alive and he's living in the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
He took on an American name.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I suppose again it was Alan Dulles and the Galen
operation that brought of his country.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He wrote a book about the Romanovs and about.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Their terrible death, because this was the role to keep
perpetuating how evil the Communists were and how much blood
was spilled. The book is called The Hunt for the Tsar.
If some of you study these books, and I know
many people, many listeners are collecting these books on Abraham
Lincoln and on the Tsar, a book called The Hunt
for the Tsar is out and I'm going to try
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and get that, like I went the one on Abraham
Lincoln and the Romanovs and the Russian the intrigues of
the killing of Lincoln and the Romanov conspiracies. The Hunter
of whatever pen name it has, was written by Heinrich Himmler.
This is what has passed along for whatever it's worth,
Alexei says, and I think these things are interesting. I
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think that the biggest problem facing this country is to
erase these hoaxes.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This is what I try to do. I believe there's three.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Major hoaxes that are intertwined that affect our economy and
well being, our court systems.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
One is the Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Hoax, the use of this one man who was drug
kidnapped for military use. His entire command was taken over
by our Pentagon and the CIA and the defense agencies,
and they then linked it to the Mormon data banks,
the Nazi Interpol records, and the used syndrome that links
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to these other assassinations is one of the major problems
in the United States. And the other one is the
killing of the presidents and the senators and the candidates
of filling John Candy, Robert Kendy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm
X and the collusion of the courts.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
In covering up those murders.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And then the third big story really to open up
is the successful evacuation of the Romanovs.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What really happened to them?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Where are their holdings, what did they have, how many
more people came over with them, how many Nazis came
what are their links of What are the links of
the present Czarus to the Nazis in America and around
the country that are surfacing. These are big problems, and
from week to week on Dialogue Conspiracy I talk about
smaller aspects of them.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But those are the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Three major problems that have to be linked together in
order to solve who killed John Kennedy. They're not separate,
but they're big, major problems. There's another splinter problem in
the United States that I talk about from time to
time that I want to mention briefly because there's two
newsletters out, and that's about animal mutilations.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We don't know where.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
They're coming from or why they're coming but they're happening.
Ed Sanders has a newsletter. He's a writer who lives
in Woodstock, New York. It's called the Cattle Report. You
can write to him. It's box seven to nine Woodstock
in New York one two four nine eight.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's a good comes out four.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Times a year, a newsletter on where the cattle mutilations
are happening. These are instances of livestock, particularly hogs and cows,
that are found dead. The testicles are removed, the tongues
are removed, they're left in strange positions. There's no footprints
or noise. They are put in similar positions around the country.
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And the livestock are being killed all over the country,
and so there's a newsletter out about where.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
They're happening and how they're happening.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Now there's another newsletter coming out from a very fine
researcher in Paris, Texas. It's called Stigmata Project Stigmata called
Life stock mutilations and deaths, and I'm not sure this
isn't linked to the what I call the Nazification process.
I don't know what it means except they are here
and they're very real, and I think if you're interested
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in this subject, I don't have to go at length
about the on dialogue. Conspiracy Stigmata involves just setting a
self addressed envelope, the large size stamped with your thirteen
cents po box one.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh nine four Paris, Texas seven five four six oh.
If you didn't get that, you write to my home
because I only come here once a week to kl
RB or fone the house.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'll give the addresses and the sources of the information.
Stigmata coming out now from Texas is from a very
fine researcher who's done a lot of work on the
various assassinations and conspiracies. He talks about the mutilations and
the mutilation deaths and the factual data and how it's
so important to get into these aspects. He has a
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chronicle in the first issue of the nineteen seventy seven
Mute cris Knowlogy. Because it isn't surfacing in the news,
but the local papers carry it and he has the
confirmed mutilations in Arizona in January, and in Kentucky in February, Colorado, Texas.
In March this year, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Washington, April, Alberta, Canada,
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and May, Colorado and Texas. June was in Texas. July
was in Dartmoor, England. Fifteen ponies mysteriously dead, but apparently
they weren't classic cases with Texas and Colorado. In August
there was Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Colorado. September Colorado, Missouri, Texas,
October Missouri, Colorado, Colorado, Oregon, Texas and Iowa. In November,
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Kansas and Nebraska, December and Colorado. There's been a lot
of links in Sander's worked to the Air Force base
in Colorado and the links of their silence or and
their helicopters and the cattle mutilations.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
He has a number here in this stigmata of bulletin.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Any fresh mutile life get word that they'll fly to
any site in western US a Sunday team. They have
to have fresh carcasses within forty eight hours. They'll take
pictures of the mutilations of the bodies, the positions they're in,
how they're moved around, and the genitals and the throats
and parts that are removed, and compare them and put
them in files.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It is a very serious problem. And if you're interested
in that, you.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can take these two newsletters and keep up on what's
happening in that sense.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Now, in the.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Next few months on Dialogue Conspiracy, I'm going to harp
at one theme, one overriding theme, and that has to
do with what's coming in the United States, specifically California,
which again I call the Nazification state. We have two
people running for office for possible governor this year, and
if one doesn't get the governorship and is pushed out
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because one has to lose, he will be appointed to
a big job such as FBI chief or even they
talked about Emily young on the Supreme Court. Someday I'm
going to talk for the next few weeks about Chief
of Police Ed Davis and Los Angeles and Attorney General
Evil Younger, and also Sheriff Peter Pitches, even though he
isn't running for office. I will be writing about them.
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I'm getting my files in order. I'd like to get
out of paperback book or magazine or Xerox's story on
Evil Younger and Ed Davis.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
If you have.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Anything you want me to include in your files, mail
it to me so we can do a profile of
these men. This gang of Younger and Davis, to me,
are the epitome of the way murders are covered up,
the way the courts are manipulated, and the way high
public officials are rewarded with a position even to run
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for the idea of governor. Of these men, with all
these unsolved murders and trails of blood behind them, is
no different than Gerring and Gebels, or l Or Hitler
in Germany. I call the California violent scenes that they've
been part and parcel of the Robert Kennedy assassination in
Los Angeles, the La Slasher case, the strang case, the
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Zebra killings in San Francisco, the Sla formation in the
lapd the Manson family murders, the killing of the six
people Charted's home and the killings of La Bianca's, the
Doctor Oder killings in Santa Cruz, Edmund Kemper massacres, the
trash bag killer, the One Corona frame up of the
migrant farmers, the child Chilibus kidnapping, the San Quentin sixth trial,
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the trial Rochelle McGee and the shootout at Marin County,
the Angels Davis case, the secret Army organization, the Squad
nineteen in Los Angeles to kill Richard Nixon, the Chicano killings.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I could go on and on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I just can't believe that anyone like Ed Davis would
even run for governor of California. New West Magazine has
a long article on Dead Davis. It's December nineteenth, nineteen
seventy seven, but you can get it at your libraries
and copy it.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It has a cover.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It says picture of Ed Davis on the cover, and
it says in quotes the power politics of Ed Davis,
a cop who would be king by Barry Ferrell. There's
some quotations in the article. It says, one seasoned observer
warns when truly enormous power falls into the hands of
someone like Chief Ed Davis, well watch out. Another quotation
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quotes a bumper sticker Davis will be great if you
want a police state. Another quotation about Ed Davis and
his work, Davis is being merchandized. Not only does the
j Walder Thompson Agency cover police departments and sell you
their placid look.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But mister Vogery, who I call the number one most.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Dangerous public relations man in the world, is in Washington,
you see to overturn elections all over the country and
make us very, very conservative. Vogery is from the YAF
and still with it. He managed George Wallace's mailing list
and other writers. He's managing the campaign of Ed Davis
and Los Angeles. It's interesting that mister Vogerie managed the
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campaign of George Wallace, and and that Thane Caesar, the
man who shot Robert Kennedy from the back of the
head and who's been charged with killing Robert Kennedy, was
a Wallace worker, and Zane Caesar worked with Ed Davis
covered up the killing of Robert Kennedy. Ed Davis is
linked to the CIA, the police department, to the Mormon
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Data Banks. Johnny Meyer, living in Canada, said that right
directly from the Los Angeles Police Department goes information on
your marijuana slips or abortion slips if you signed petitions.
He sends those directly to the Mormon data banks through
a ten million dollar computer through the US organization he's
anextorably linked to the Summa Corporation. A man worked for
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the Los Angeles Police Department seventeen years with Ed Davis
and goes on to be security of the US organization
and their links to the assassination teams. He's linked to
the Interpoll, the International Police and he's been president of
the International Police Organization for the last period.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He's proud of that. He entertains at a convention Los
Angeles people from the.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So Vak, the terrible police force of the shah Iran,
and from South Korea. He hit the president of the
International Police Organization. He works, as I say, with a
secret army organization. He set up the Squad nineteen and
his police department formed the first SWAT teams that had
the public cremation of six people burning in Los Angeles
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dinner time in the SLA. This is a terribly dangerous person.
Emil Young works hand in glove with them.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
If they didn't do anything else, they covered the complete
story of the John Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
They're even talking now about mister Van DeCamp, the district attorney,
being appointed chief of the FBI. That would be his
payoff for covering up with the Board of Supervisors presented
to him on the conspiracy kill Robert Kennedy. The conspirators
get rewarded, they get promoted, they get elected, they get
paid off. And I don't think there's any more important
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problem in the country right now than to expose Ed
Davis and Emily Younger, and I hope to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is a long arm article.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's eighteen pages or twenty pages in the Los Angeles
Times December eighteenth, nineteen seventy seven, a special report on
Ed Davis of the Police Department and says how good
is he? In nineteen seventy five to seventy six, LAPD
shot one hundred and fifty people. They killed sixty forty
one were unarmed. In nineteen seventy seven they shot seventy
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seven people, thirty three died. Sixty percent of those people
shot by the Los Angeles Police Department were not armed.
And they've been shooting Chicanos and Mexicans with flimsy's excuses.
And there's been some famous case that mister Berkeholder, the
scientist who was working on fuel who graduated from cal Tech,
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who was shot in the street by a Asian Los
Angeles Police Department. The van was nude and didn't have
weapons and obviously unarmed, maybe freaked out from some drug
but they knew who he was. He worked at the
Veterans Organization and was working on fuel. I will be
talking and getting books together and exposing these people.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I just can't believe that Emily.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Younger and Ed Davis could be linked to so many
of these cases and so much violence. And next week
I will go in to the lawsuit against the Los
Angeles Police Department that three widows of guards killed at
the time of the San Quentin shootout in August of
nineteen seventy one filed against the LAPD because of the
allegations that a rifle a gun rather was put in
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that prison. A thirty eight was taken by the LAPD
officers up to San Quitin the day of the shootout,
and they are making the LAPD defendants for the death
of prison guards on the allegations that the police provided
the gun inside the prison and their husband were killed.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The gun was seen in the prison.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It was later seen by Lewis Tacoot in the office
of Robert Keel, in charge of the criminal Conspiracy section.
After the shootout in this lawsuit. I'll go into in
detail next week. Well that says for Dialog conspiracy of news,
a lot of unhappy things, a lot of pressure of
cover ups every week, but we keep trudging along, and
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I'll bring you more next week, the continuing story of
Ed Davis, Eville Younger, and some more news on these
various conspiracies. This is May Brussel, and I'll see you
next week. This is Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You've been listening to Dialogue Conspiracy with Nate
It's time once again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel.
For the past fourteen years, May has been researching and
uncovering facts and evidence from between the lines of the
news inflacing them in a more thorough perspective of how conspiracy,
political assassination, and abuses of power affect us all. I
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think Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California, and
now May Brussel.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
This is May Brussel and Carmel, California, and it's January
the eighth, nineteen seventy eight. This is Dialogue Conspiracy number
three hundred and three. I started out this year being
very optimistic. I had about eight days of optimism. Now
I'm not feeling so good. Certain things happen in the
economy this Wednesday, pledges the Federal Reserve made about money
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that can't be backed up in our gold supply, and
new directions that I see in the newspaper that are
discouraging to me. I'll share some of them with you
and then get on with some other information. Larry Flint,
the owner of the Hustler magazine that I spoke about
a few weeks ago on Dialogue Conspiracy pledged to Paul
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Krazer that he could run his magazine, and he's going
to be taking over Hustler magazine.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And I just.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Heard that Flint's going to offer one million dollars to
the person who can solve the John Kennedy assassination. I
heard that this is a new offer that's going to
be put in his magazines. Is one catch, and that
is that the money will be given to those people
who are screened through by a panel of three people,
specifically Mark Lane, Dick Gregory, and one other party. Now
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that's very discouraging because Mark Lane moved out from Washington,
d C. Where the House of Like Committee is doing
their research supposedly on the Kennedy assassination now and instead
of working with Congress, he's moved to the West Coast.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I feel that he and.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Dick Gregory will work with Don Freed and be one
more agent of cover up of the Kennedy assassination. I
believe that Mark has been one of the biggest stumbling
blocks to the truth in this affair, and I've been
tagg and I stick towards him for years. There are
very few of the researchers that respect Mark or can
even stand him. And Dick Gregory is not a researcher,
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so I feel this is a showbiz thing and if
any serious documentation is presented to them, it won't receive
the credit, and the men will take pieces from it
that might be of value and distort other material. I
know that Mark Lane took credit in Washington to make
sure that none of my information would get before the
House Select Committee. He told them I was crazy and
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at koop and diverted it. So I know that he
would do this for Larry Flint. I would hope that
Paul Krasner, as the editor of Hustler, would present what
I have to give to Larry Flint.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
In good faith and not pass it in front of
Mark Lane or Dick Gregory.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There's one thing that did disturb me when Krasner took
over Hustler magazine. He suggested the first article I write
be about son of Sam in the mk Ultra program,
and then he suggested I do another article on.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
The rock musicians, of killing the rock musicians. But he
said something really strange to me.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He said, don't write about Lee Harvey Oswald. He says,
that's kind of overdone. Don't get into the Oswald thing.
Now that's interesting because two weeks after he told me this,
after Paul Krasner said that Flint, who must have some
consuming desire to know who killed John Kennedy, is coming
out with this huge offer, And yet Krasner said to me,
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don't write about Lee Harvey Oswald. Now I know, and
I've said before in dialogue conspiracy. The thing that these
people are afraid of. What they're most afraid of, is
to expose or disrobe the plan of the assassinations, the
overall plan, what's going on from the Tsarus Russia, to
the forming of Nazi Germany, the importation of Nazis to America,
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the use of Czarus like Marina Oswald, George de Morinschel,
the links to the oil company, the defense industry, to
Werter von Braun of NASA and Walter Dornberger from Bell Aerospace,
the use of Nazis in the assassination Albert Osborne, Lee
Harvey Oswald, the Defense Industry Security Command, the FBI, William
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Sullivan of Division five. These are the things that will
not be allowed to come out. So they offer it,
from my own interpretation so far, is a sham.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I will produce a.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Serious document and try to get it to mister Flint
and put it in a book form. He's going to
have a book publishing company and maybe he'll publish the book.
With my explanations, I would never present it to Dick
Gregory and Mark Lanyam believed that they were serious about
wanting to know who killed John Kennedy. A new name
cropped up in my research this week. That's worth noting.
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And for those of that take the tapes every week
and keep getting books on the subjects and get informed
on them, write the name down and let me know
if you have any information about him, or go to
the library and the indexes.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And see if you can find this name. It's Peter P. E. T. E. R.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Bessel B S S E l L. He lived in Oceanside, California.
He seems to be missing, which is a syndrome that
we get with these very important witnesses.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The first time I heard his name was.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
From David Astroland several weeks ago with regards to a
movie that's being made on the Kennedy assassination in Canada.
I think I mentioned that on the show and that
Anthony Summers, the man who wrote the file on the Tsar,
saw documents or knew this mister Bessel and said that
Henry Kissinger had showed him information on the taking of
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the Tsar and the Tsar's family out of Russia, that
the US Army assisted in evacuation of the entire family
of the Romanovs out of Russia at the time of
the revolution, and that they were in fact alive and
were never killed as depicted so many times in movies.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Or in books.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
The second time I heard about Peter Bessel was this
week from a k L R B listener in London,
England who gets the tapes of these shows. He was
sending me a detailed breakdown of the English political system
and the parties and the various conspiracies as they pertain
to our United States intrigues. And he talked about the
Liberal Party in particular and a man named Norman Scott
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who was going to be killed again. We have these
near murder assassination stories. Mister Newton was to kill mister
Scott of the Liberal Party. Mister Newton lost his courage,
he killed the dog instead and got an attorney and
spoke about the plans to kill this particular member of
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the Liberal Party. He was a friend of Jeremy Thorpe,
another leader of the Liberal Party in England. Newton came
the United States where a truck almost ran over him,
such as the one that killed Murray Chottner and ran
over Clay Shaw in New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
These important witnesses.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
A truck almost ran over him, and therefore he got
very nervous, and he began to talk about who paid
money for mister Newton to want who wanted him killed,
that he received money, and the name that came out
was Peter Bessel, who lives in Ocean Side, California, a
man obviously with the CIA, or must be working close
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enough with Kissing Her to have this special information on
the departure of the Romanovs from Russia. Well, the killing,
of the near killing didn't take place, and the witness
got terrified and he went to his lawyer. And now
the lawyer is talking about a story which he's saying
in London. According to the London sources that I have
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that when this story comes out, it's going to be
bigger than Watergate. That the story surrounding Peter Bessel and
the reasons for wanting Scott killed is one of the
biggest stories of the Western world, and if the true
implications come out, it will shake the Western world. And
that could only have meaning in terms of the political
assassinations or the removal of the Romanovs to Poland where
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they were taken and they were not killed. And I
think that the Kennedy assassinations and removal of the Romanovs
are part and parcel of the same problem.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
They're not separate.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And I think the as I said, the implications of
this story are big. So any of you have ever
heard of mister Peter Bessel.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
He's missing now.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
He lived in Oceana Side, California, and I really would
like some information about his relationships to Henry Kissinger or
the political parties in London. If you take the London Times,
let me know more about him, and let's see if
we can put these pieces together. I spoke today with
a researcher in Chicago, Sherman Skulnik, who has had been
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very privileged spent time with Alexei Nikola.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I can pronounce it Romanov, the son of the Tsar.
He's seen him.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He lives in New York City, in ke Gardens. I
wrote to the Tsarevich I wrote several months ago, about
a half a year ago, wanted to see if I
could contact him. I had his address, I have his
number now. He went by the name of Colonel Galinevsky
in Poland. He went to a military academy after he
left Russia. Sherman Skolnik is a fine researcher, and he's
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absolutely convinced that this is the Tsar's son. He claims
that the Chase Manhattan Bank has made an offer to
settle for eighty million dollars with this person if he
doesn't put a claim on their holdings, because there's four
hundred million dollars in gold in the Chase Manhattan Banks,
it would break the Chase Manhattan Bank at this time
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if he pulled out his true inheritance that it's sitting there.
The Romanovs alone, not as the Tsar, but just as
a family had money tremendous holy with Marshall Field, with
US Steel, General mose in the Midwest, Canada and Illinois.
And this particular party is only allowed to live on
a pension given to him by the CIA, and he's
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afraid for his life and cannot make a claim on
the fortune. He isn't living well, but he doesn't want
to make a claim on the fortune. Sherman says he
has proved positive that he is the Czar's son.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
He came in the United States in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Seven, right after John Kennedy was inaugurated, and Sherman's scullic
believes that was just one more reason to assassinate John Kennedy,
that if he had surfaced and told his true story
and claimed part of his wealth, the Rockefellers would be
wiped out. And we know that George de Morenschild, who
worked as Lee Harvey Oswald's closest CIA contact and friend,
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also worked with Nelson Rockefeller and the Chase Manhattan Bank
ever since he came to the United States. He was
a conduit and the use of Oswald the patsy to
blame him instead of the higher ups and government was
very convenient. But Sherman feels that this was a very
good motive that has never been brought out for another
reason for getting rid of the Kennedys. When he arrived
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in Langley, Virginia, Alexei was met by a CIA agent
who then turned out to be a KGB agent, the
same person that he had known in the Soviet Union.
His sister, Eugenny Romanov, lives in Oak Park section of Chicago, Illinois,
and she's still alive Anastagias in the United States in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I've talked about her before on this program with Lydia
Blade's when we talked about the book the File on
the Tzar.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
There's a book called Lincoln and the Tzar. I don't
have the author, but I'm going to try.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And get it.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Sherman Scolnick saw the book when he was in New
York with Nick Lai and they talked about Alexi Rada
and they talked about this book. It claims that mister Seward,
William Seward, was responsible for Abraham Lincoln's death.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
He was the Secretary of the State at the time,
and of course they blamed John Wilkes Bluth.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That Seuart also was responsible for the purchase of Alaska,
called Seward's folly at the time, but that the Czar
and the Romanovs actually owned Alaska, and that in nineteen
sixty six there was an agreement which expired, and that
one of the allegations of this party is that armand Hammer,
who went over to the Soviet Union and worked out
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this forty billion dollar deal for gas through the Bearing Straits.
Was involved with working with the Romanovs and the Alaskan
Territory and legally, according to the explanation of Sherman Skolnik
and Alexei Romanov, the Alaska Territory actually belongs to the
Soviet Union and that they're using it as a trump card.
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They could take Alaska back if they wann't, but it's
a hole they have over the United States because they
know the facts in this case full well, and keep
this as a trump card for getting out of Vietnam
or for making sure we don't go too far in
our foreign policy with our weapons systems. He has documented
dental proof from England of his charts going back as
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far as nineteen o nine.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This party had him affiliate.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Since birth and he stays on a very strict regimented
diret which he claims has allowed him to live. Interesting
that when this Colonel Golanofsky was brought to the United
States and then identified as the son of the Tsar,
the attorney that he had when he came here was
Harry Rothblatt, who later became the attorney for Frank Sturgis
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and the Watergate defendants, and he blames Harry Rothblatt for
letting him down and going along with the Rockefellas in
New York City and with the CIA and not pursuing
the claims because, in quotes, it would break Rocky's bank.
Henry Rothblatt has been working for that team and was
the attorney for Colonel Golanowsky when he came to the
United States. The British archives are way ahead of the
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United States. In nineteen seventy, he says, they revealed information
of how the Romanovs escaped, and this was in England
but was not allowed to be mass produced in the
United States.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
The family took a British cruiser.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They were assisted from where they were taken prisoner by
the United States Army United States soldiers that were there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
They were taken by a British cruiser. They came out
of Russia on the Siberian side, went to Molda and
then they set up life in Poland. He says his
father's grave, the Tsar of Russia, is marked. It's in Poland.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
His father died in nineteen fifty two. His mother's grave
is in Poland. She died in nineteen twenty four. His
inheritance began automatically in nineteen fifty two, at the time
of the father's death. They sent Alexi to a military academy,
and during World War Two he joined Polish intelligence, where
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he went inside Russia as a double agent, working against
the Soviets. As a Polish agent, he was with the
Polish Army during the war. He did no fighting, of course,
He just did intelligent work, intelligence work. He also did
some writing for Randolph Hurst, putting down the Rocketfellows in
the journal America Newspapers.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
In New York that was once owned by Randolph Hurst.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There's an interesting statement by Alexia Romanov, who worked in
double intelligence.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
He said that Heinrich Himmler, the Nazi coworker of Adolf Hitler,
was allegedly killed in an automobile accident a hair hair
pin turn in Germany.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
He says it didn't happen at all, that Himmler is
alive and he's living in the United States.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
He took on an American name.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I suppose again it was Alan Dulles and the Galen
operation that brought of his country.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
He wrote a book about the Romanovs and about.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Their terrible death, because this was the role to keep
perpetuating how evil the Communists were and how much blood
was spilled. The book is called The Hunt for the Tsar.
If some of you study these books, and I know
many people, many listeners are collecting these books on Abraham
Lincoln and on the Tsar, a book called The Hunt
for the Tsar is out and I'm going to try
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and get that, like I went the one on Abraham
Lincoln and the Romanovs and the Russian the intrigues of
the killing of Lincoln and the Romanov conspiracies. The Hunter
of whatever pen name it has, was written by Heinrich Himmler.
This is what has passed along for whatever it's worth,
Alexei says, and I think these things are interesting. I
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think that the biggest problem facing this country is to
erase these hoaxes.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
This is what I try to do. I believe there's three.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Major hoaxes that are intertwined that affect our economy and
well being, our court systems.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
One is the Howard Hughes.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Hoax, the use of this one man who was drug
kidnapped for military use. His entire command was taken over
by our Pentagon and the CIA and the defense agencies,
and they then linked it to the Mormon data banks,
the Nazi Interpol records, and the used syndrome that links
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to these other assassinations is one of the major problems
in the United States. And the other one is the
killing of the presidents and the senators and the candidates
of filling John Candy, Robert Kendy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm
X and the collusion of the courts.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
In covering up those murders.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And then the third big story really to open up
is the successful evacuation of the Romanovs.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
What really happened to them?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Where are their holdings, what did they have, how many
more people came over with them, how many Nazis came
what are their links of What are the links of
the present Czarus to the Nazis in America and around
the country that are surfacing. These are big problems, and
from week to week on Dialogue Conspiracy I talk about
smaller aspects of them.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
But those are the.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Three major problems that have to be linked together in
order to solve who killed John Kennedy. They're not separate,
but they're big, major problems. There's another splinter problem in
the United States that I talk about from time to
time that I want to mention briefly because there's two
newsletters out, and that's about animal mutilations.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
We don't know where.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
They're coming from or why they're coming but they're happening.
Ed Sanders has a newsletter. He's a writer who lives
in Woodstock, New York. It's called the Cattle Report. You
can write to him. It's box seven to nine Woodstock
in New York one two four nine eight.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's a good comes out four.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Times a year, a newsletter on where the cattle mutilations
are happening. These are instances of livestock, particularly hogs and cows,
that are found dead. The testicles are removed, the tongues
are removed, they're left in strange positions. There's no footprints
or noise. They are put in similar positions around the country.
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And the livestock are being killed all over the country,
and so there's a newsletter out about where.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
They're happening and how they're happening.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Now there's another newsletter coming out from a very fine
researcher in Paris, Texas. It's called Stigmata Project Stigmata called
Life stock mutilations and deaths, and I'm not sure this
isn't linked to the what I call the Nazification process.
I don't know what it means except they are here
and they're very real, and I think if you're interested
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in this subject, I don't have to go at length
about the on dialogue. Conspiracy Stigmata involves just setting a
self addressed envelope, the large size stamped with your thirteen
cents po box one.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh nine four Paris, Texas seven five four six oh.
If you didn't get that, you write to my home
because I only come here once a week to kl
RB or fone the house.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I'll give the addresses and the sources of the information.
Stigmata coming out now from Texas is from a very
fine researcher who's done a lot of work on the
various assassinations and conspiracies. He talks about the mutilations and
the mutilation deaths and the factual data and how it's
so important to get into these aspects. He has a
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chronicle in the first issue of the nineteen seventy seven
Mute cris Knowlogy. Because it isn't surfacing in the news,
but the local papers carry it and he has the
confirmed mutilations in Arizona in January, and in Kentucky in February, Colorado, Texas.
In March this year, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Washington, April, Alberta, Canada,
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and May, Colorado and Texas. June was in Texas. July
was in Dartmoor, England. Fifteen ponies mysteriously dead, but apparently
they weren't classic cases with Texas and Colorado. In August
there was Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Colorado. September Colorado, Missouri, Texas,
October Missouri, Colorado, Colorado, Oregon, Texas and Iowa. In November,
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Kansas and Nebraska, December and Colorado. There's been a lot
of links in Sander's worked to the Air Force base
in Colorado and the links of their silence or and
their helicopters and the cattle mutilations.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
He has a number here in this stigmata of bulletin.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Any fresh mutile life get word that they'll fly to
any site in western US a Sunday team. They have
to have fresh carcasses within forty eight hours. They'll take
pictures of the mutilations of the bodies, the positions they're in,
how they're moved around, and the genitals and the throats
and parts that are removed, and compare them and put
them in files.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It is a very serious problem. And if you're interested
in that, you.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Can take these two newsletters and keep up on what's
happening in that sense.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Now, in the.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Next few months on Dialogue Conspiracy, I'm going to harp
at one theme, one overriding theme, and that has to
do with what's coming in the United States, specifically California,
which again I call the Nazification state. We have two
people running for office for possible governor this year, and
if one doesn't get the governorship and is pushed out
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because one has to lose, he will be appointed to
a big job such as FBI chief or even they
talked about Emily young on the Supreme Court. Someday I'm
going to talk for the next few weeks about Chief
of Police Ed Davis and Los Angeles and Attorney General
Evil Younger, and also Sheriff Peter Pitches, even though he
isn't running for office. I will be writing about them.
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I'm getting my files in order. I'd like to get
out of paperback book or magazine or Xerox's story on
Evil Younger and Ed Davis.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
If you have.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Anything you want me to include in your files, mail
it to me so we can do a profile of
these men. This gang of Younger and Davis, to me,
are the epitome of the way murders are covered up,
the way the courts are manipulated, and the way high
public officials are rewarded with a position even to run
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for the idea of governor. Of these men, with all
these unsolved murders and trails of blood behind them, is
no different than Gerring and Gebels, or l Or Hitler
in Germany. I call the California violent scenes that they've
been part and parcel of the Robert Kennedy assassination in
Los Angeles, the La Slasher case, the strang case, the
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Zebra killings in San Francisco, the Sla formation in the
lapd the Manson family murders, the killing of the six
people Charted's home and the killings of La Bianca's, the
Doctor Oder killings in Santa Cruz, Edmund Kemper massacres, the
trash bag killer, the One Corona frame up of the
migrant farmers, the child Chilibus kidnapping, the San Quentin sixth trial,
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the trial Rochelle McGee and the shootout at Marin County,
the Angels Davis case, the secret Army organization, the Squad
nineteen in Los Angeles to kill Richard Nixon, the Chicano killings.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I could go on and on.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I just can't believe that anyone like Ed Davis would
even run for governor of California. New West Magazine has
a long article on Dead Davis. It's December nineteenth, nineteen
seventy seven, but you can get it at your libraries
and copy it.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It has a cover.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
It says picture of Ed Davis on the cover, and
it says in quotes the power politics of Ed Davis,
a cop who would be king by Barry Ferrell. There's
some quotations in the article. It says, one seasoned observer
warns when truly enormous power falls into the hands of
someone like Chief Ed Davis, well watch out. Another quotation
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quotes a bumper sticker Davis will be great if you
want a police state. Another quotation about Ed Davis and
his work, Davis is being merchandized. Not only does the
j Walder Thompson Agency cover police departments and sell you
their placid look.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
But mister Vogery, who I call the number one most.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Dangerous public relations man in the world, is in Washington,
you see to overturn elections all over the country and
make us very, very conservative. Vogery is from the YAF
and still with it. He managed George Wallace's mailing list
and other writers. He's managing the campaign of Ed Davis
and Los Angeles. It's interesting that mister Vogerie managed the
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campaign of George Wallace, and and that Thane Caesar, the
man who shot Robert Kennedy from the back of the
head and who's been charged with killing Robert Kennedy, was
a Wallace worker, and Zane Caesar worked with Ed Davis
covered up the killing of Robert Kennedy. Ed Davis is
linked to the CIA, the police department, to the Mormon
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Data Banks. Johnny Meyer, living in Canada, said that right
directly from the Los Angeles Police Department goes information on
your marijuana slips or abortion slips if you signed petitions.
He sends those directly to the Mormon data banks through
a ten million dollar computer through the US organization he's
anextorably linked to the Summa Corporation. A man worked for
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the Los Angeles Police Department seventeen years with Ed Davis
and goes on to be security of the US organization
and their links to the assassination teams. He's linked to
the Interpoll, the International Police and he's been president of
the International Police Organization for the last period.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He's proud of that. He entertains at a convention Los
Angeles people from the.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
So Vak, the terrible police force of the shah Iran,
and from South Korea. He hit the president of the
International Police Organization. He works, as I say, with a
secret army organization. He set up the Squad nineteen and
his police department formed the first SWAT teams that had
the public cremation of six people burning in Los Angeles
(26:20):
dinner time in the SLA. This is a terribly dangerous person.
Emil Young works hand in glove with them.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
If they didn't do anything else, they covered the complete
story of the John Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
They're even talking now about mister Van DeCamp, the district attorney,
being appointed chief of the FBI. That would be his
payoff for covering up with the Board of Supervisors presented
to him on the conspiracy kill Robert Kennedy. The conspirators
get rewarded, they get promoted, they get elected, they get
paid off. And I don't think there's any more important
(26:53):
problem in the country right now than to expose Ed
Davis and Emily Younger, and I hope to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Is a long arm article.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's eighteen pages or twenty pages in the Los Angeles
Times December eighteenth, nineteen seventy seven, a special report on
Ed Davis of the Police Department and says how good
is he? In nineteen seventy five to seventy six, LAPD
shot one hundred and fifty people. They killed sixty forty
one were unarmed. In nineteen seventy seven they shot seventy
(27:21):
seven people, thirty three died. Sixty percent of those people
shot by the Los Angeles Police Department were not armed.
And they've been shooting Chicanos and Mexicans with flimsy's excuses.
And there's been some famous case that mister Berkeholder, the
scientist who was working on fuel who graduated from cal Tech,
(27:43):
who was shot in the street by a Asian Los
Angeles Police Department. The van was nude and didn't have
weapons and obviously unarmed, maybe freaked out from some drug
but they knew who he was. He worked at the
Veterans Organization and was working on fuel. I will be
talking and getting books together and exposing these people.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I just can't believe that Emily.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Younger and Ed Davis could be linked to so many
of these cases and so much violence. And next week
I will go in to the lawsuit against the Los
Angeles Police Department that three widows of guards killed at
the time of the San Quentin shootout in August of
nineteen seventy one filed against the LAPD because of the
allegations that a rifle a gun rather was put in
(28:26):
that prison. A thirty eight was taken by the LAPD
officers up to San Quitin the day of the shootout,
and they are making the LAPD defendants for the death
of prison guards on the allegations that the police provided
the gun inside the prison and their husband were killed.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The gun was seen in the prison.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
It was later seen by Lewis Tacoot in the office
of Robert Keel, in charge of the criminal Conspiracy section.
After the shootout in this lawsuit. I'll go into in
detail next week. Well that says for Dialog conspiracy of news,
a lot of unhappy things, a lot of pressure of
cover ups every week, but we keep trudging along, and
(29:06):
I'll bring you more next week, the continuing story of
Ed Davis, Eville Younger, and some more news on these
various conspiracies. This is May Brussel, and I'll see you
next week. This is Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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