#305 01.22.78 Mae Brussell

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
For a Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel. For the past
fourteen years, May has been researching and uncovering facts and
evidence from between the lines of the news and placing
them in a more thorough perspective of how conspiracy, political assassination,
and abuses of power affect us.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
All.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California, and now
May Brussel.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good Evening. This is May Brussel and Carmel, California. I
hear an echo here on the program, but there's something
wrong in the control room. I can't figure out what. Yeah,
maybe Joe come in and help us about this. It's
January the twenty second, nineteen seventy eight, and it's Dialogue
Conspiracy number three hundred and five. To hear the echo here,

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it's a conspiracy. Okay, it's out. We've solved the problem.
Idel's helped me along here, and I think we're on
our way. Several news stations have been taking Dialogue Conspiracy
and are getting the tape cassettes. And there's a college
in the north and one in the east. And once
in a while when a new station begins to take
this program, I have to explain or backtrack on some

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of the names and give a little background on the program.
If I move along too fast and you're not familiar
with this information, be patient and take it each week
as it comes, and you can fill in with the
back tapes going almost a year into March seventy seven
if you want them. I'll give you the list of
information of books that are available. If you write to

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me to my homemade address box, it's Route two in
Carmel two five six two oh vo Crotalo crit Alo
Carmel nine three nine two three. I can send you
a list of the past programs of Dialogue Conspiracy through
March seventy seven. I have the tapes going back six

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and a half years, but they're not available. I haven't
put them all on cassettes. And there is one college
in the North that's playing these programs twice a week
in the morning and evening and as you listen to them.
If you have any questions, just send me a self
addressed envelope and I'll try to answer your questions, or
you can telephone me in the evenings. There it goes
for a wait, and I'm listed in the Carmel Monterey

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Telephone Book, the Only Brussel and the Telephone Book. If
some of this material isn't familiar to you and you
want more information about it, I can tell you where
to get books on the conspiracies. You can send a
self addressed envelope and twenty five cents to box one
Pin one oh seven, Capitola in Capitola, California and get

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a bibliography, a list of the current books that are
available that I refer to. This is the source of
my books on dialogue conspiracy of my library, and you
can write there and get some books if you want
to get read, to get into the act of investigating,
becoming an investigator yourself, or following up with some of
the facts that I give you on the program. And

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you can, as I say, get tapes of the past shows,
or you can telephone me, or you can write if
you send your self addressed stamped envelope. I don't have
time to follow all these and write them out, and
that's why I say address it to yourself and save
me the time. Of course, the overriding theme all the
time is that this government is run by conspiracy. And

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when you pile up the list of books that have
been published in the past, and then the present and
future ones that are ready to roll out. According to
the book Catalogs, you can see that more and more
people are becoming conscious of the conspiracies. And I want
to go in to this matter with you. A conspiracy
newsletter that's published in Michigan and maybe you can order

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some information from this party mister mc alpine who has
a conspiracy digest. The area of the conspiracy that I'm
concerned with is the one it involves political assassinations or imprisonments,
prisonment of people who affect our social culture through the
act of murder. When their murder takes place, the social

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climate takes place. I'm interested in the killing of the
president or past presidents, senators, candidates for presidency, and cultural
events such as killing rock musicians, legal murders such as
killing deciding lawyers in cases or members of the Congress
or judges and civil rights leaders. And then prisoners prisoners
that are killed such as George Jackson. Also men that

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are locked up in prison and guards are killed in
order to keep the men locked up, such as Yugo
Panel and a whole long list of block prisoners that
are locked up because of their involvement and civil rights
struggle through the sixties, and they were put on false
murder charges and are now being considered under Amnesty International

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as part of American political prisoners. I'm interested in the
way the news media covers up the murders and the
way the medical profession participates in the murders, and it's
that area that I really am concentrating on. There are many,
many people working on the economic conspiracy, the gold conspiracy,
and the health the weather manipulation. Of course, I'm interested

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in the mind control because it affects the alleged assassins
who can be used for certain acts in the murdering
and then their memories erased the process of mind control
to use pats these four jobs and then erase all
memory of what happened after the crime was committed. I'm

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interested in the police systems and in the court systems
and the facets of the conspiracies that are used to
keep these assassinations going and to keep them covered up.
And that is the overriding theme for some of you.
As I say, there are new listeners to radio stations
that are getting the tape cassettes and wonder why so

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many different subjects are every week there is a theme,
an overwriting theme that connects these and you can't connect
them all in a half hour, it's impossible. But the
overriding theme is these conspiracies. Last week I talked about
the Power Control Group, the conspiracy within the research element.
That's another branch of this problem. Is that there are

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some people trying to find out if the Defense Industry
Security Command, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the CIA, the FBI
are involved in these assassinations and murders. And then there
are researchers that are part of this power Control group,
and I went into them at length last week on
Dialogue Conspiracy. One of the researchers that I didn't mention

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on dialogu Conspiracy was Sylvia Maher. She's a woman that
wrote accessories after the fact after John Kennedy was killed,
and she's been looked up to as a source of information.
Sylvia has come out recently in a newsletter Penn Jones
and bragged about the fact that she encouraged Tom, a
man that was working for District Attorney Jim Garrison New Orleans,

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to give information to the lawyers of Clay Shaw to
betray his own employer. For the sake of clay Shaw,
who admittedly was in the CIA and worked for the CIA,
And she's very proud of the fact that she told
Bethel to do this. And Jim Garrison, I believe has
a legal case in terms of Bethel passing these documents on.

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He did sue him for hampering his investigation and trial Clayshaw.
And now Sylviemarra has come out and publicly said, yes,
I encourage Bethel to do this, and I am proud
of it. She also, as a member of the Power
Control Girl Group, published an index of the Warren commissioned
witnesses and names were mentioned in the twenty sixth volume

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and left out approximately twenty important names twenty twenty five
important names that would lead the John Kennedy assassination to
the place where it should be investigated. She left out
names I've had on Dalla conspiracy before in her index,
like Robert Morris, Colonel orlov and Warren Carroll, the CIA
and Clyde Moore, Howard Hughes and Lockheed. And there's a

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list of twenty or thirty names that she left out.
They just can't be coincidental. And again, if you want
that list of names that are left out of Sylvia
Marer's index that leads to the Young Americans for Freedom
and the William Buckley family and E. Howard Hunt and
the House Internal Security Committee that started Richard Nixon on
his fame because of prosecuting Alger Hiss. Robert Morris was

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one of the investigators for that House subcommittee. These names
were left out of an index by somebody who was
supposed to be compiling a complete list of names, and
the most important names we left out the index. I
also was talking about Mark Lane and Dick gray Green
and the cover up that Krasner has agreed to do
for Hustler. And this week I got a newsletter from

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a Jim Horwitz who has a news service in Los Angeles,
and he writes about Mark Lane. He said, Mark Lane,
the attorney for James Earl ray has been meeting quietly
with representatives of columnist Jack Anderson in Los Angeles. They
are planning a doubleheader for Jack Anderson's first big syndicated
TV special with Mark Lane's help. Jack Anderson's guest will

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be Robert Lee Vesco and James Earl Ray. Well. Jack
Anderson has been putting down the assassination conspiracy, buffs and
any evidence of conspiracy. For the fourteen years he's worked
with Frank Sturgis alias Frank Fiorina, whose name comes up
all the time in regards to the Kennedy assassination and

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the FBI report interview they had with him as soon
as John Kennedy was killed and he was arrested at
the Watergate Hotel. Anderson is a devout Mormon business partner
of Madame Channault heads the Flying Tigers, listed in books
on such as a Politics, a heroine in Southeast responsible

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for narcotics traffic in Southeast Asia, and of course world
renowned Vesco is linked to narcotic traffic all over the world,
or not only my allegations, but Frank Perroff testified at
the Senate hearings on Narcotics of the bound volumes of
his hearings that there were links of Vesco to Montreal
and members of Richard Nixon's family and the Marseille heroine connection.

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So the role of Mark Lane, the enigma wrapped in
a puzzle or a question, becomes more clear every week.
And when I see that he's assisting Jack Anderson to
launch his nationwide show with his client James Earlray, who
had said he was doing narcotic dealing the year and
a half that he was out of the Missouri penitentiary
until he was located in the Lorraine Motel. And he

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did work out of Montreal and down to Mexico and
all over the United States for a very nice time until,
as I said, Martin Luther King was killed. Find that
the attorney for James Olrain not only is Mark Lane,
but Mark is assisting in this television program for Jack Anderson,

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which is very very strange, and will follow more about
that as time goes on. The FBI candidate has been
named by Jimmy Carter. It's William H. Webster. It doesn't
surprise me that he named mister Webster. We don't know
much about him. There was an article in the Los
Angeles Times that said that he belonged to the Veiled

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Prophet Society. That's one of the few things I have
to see to feel very good about James Webster in
the new head of the FBI. The Veiled Prophit Society,
according to the Los Angeles Times, is a one hundred
year old organization of the city's wealthiest and well connected
and they annually hold a debutante ball and a parade. Now,

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I'm sure that this organization of one thousand white males
exclusive organization is not just to hold a debutante parade
because they're all white males in this society called the
Veiled Prophet. But the group is compared, according to mister Webster,
to an organization like the organizations that put on the

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New Orleans Marti Gras. And of course that reminds me
of clay Shaw, the defendant in the trial that Jim
Garrison had in New Orleans, naming Clayshaw as a member
of the assassination team that planned John Kennedy's assassination, and
when he was arrested, they took out all kinds of
masochistic whips and chains and garments, the black capes and

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so forth that were pretty scary just on the surface.
And his excuse for this kind of outfit was that
he's one of the leaders putting on the New Orleans Matogras.
Clayshaw has been, as I say, a member of the CIA,
and the Marti Gras has nothing to do with the CIA.
But I just wonder if anybody's ever going to ask

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the questions they never asked the right questions what the
Veiled Offitt Society is and is there any link of
the Veiled Prophet Society to the Hooded Ones or the
ku Klux Klan or the Secret Army organization in France
or similar organizations. The Veiled Prophet Society is only described
simply as one thousand white male members, so it's really

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weird that they put on a debutante ball. Another thing
about mister Webster is that he grew up and it
went to Amster College in amsterd Massachusetts on a scholarship
and became a very good friend of Stansfield Turner, a
fellow student who later became an admiral in the Navy
and is now director of the CIA. Stansfield Turner and l.

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Patrick Gray, who was nominated as the head of the
FBI by Richard Nixon and then forced to resign or
was kicked out because of his concealing the conspiracy of
Watergate for both the CIA and the FBI, is a
classmate a class of fifty seven, along with Jimmy Carter
and Stansfield Turner. So we have a very cozy relationship

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with Jimmy Carter, President of the United States and his
peal and classmate Stansfield Turner, director of the CIA, and
now they have their buddy, mister Webster from the FBI,
and they can coordinate what the Tom Charles Houston plan
wanted to do in nineteen seventy one that Jade Goar
Hoover didn't want to do, and that is combined the
military with the CIA and the FBI. The Los Angeles

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Times and the Associated Press went on to say that
mister Webster was a US attorney from nineteen fifty nine
to nineteen sixty one. Of course he was appointed to
the bench by Richard Nixon, but he represented the Mobile
Oil Corporation in a price fixing suit, and of course
Mobile is owned by the Rockefeller family. So you have

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a judge who was President Nixon's appointee on the bench
in nineteen seventy one, just at a time when Nixon
was getting together the Tom Charles Houston plan in the
White House, who now becomes the head of the FBI,
with the CI classmate Stansfield Turner, and the president from
Annapolis in the White House, and you have a very

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cozy group. Because Jimmy Carter was selected for the presidency
by David Rockefeller and the Trilateral Commission, and this judge
that was appointed by Richard Nixon. Mister Webster represented Mobile
Oil Corporation. So you see a very cozy trio there
that tells us we haven't come very far since Watergate.

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Nothing has changed. Really, I think it's only getting worse.
There was another article I just briefly want to mention
in last Monday's paper. It was about a meeting of
a family, Bob and Golden Bristol, who came all the
way from Michigan to San Luid Bispo to meet Michael Keyes.
Monter Harald paper said that they came two thousand miles
to meet mister Keyes, and they said, in quotes, we

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love this special person from the bottom of our hearts.
They loved mister Keys because he had murdered and raped
their daughter in San Diego. Their daughter Diane was knifed
and raped and murdered, and they carried their Christian Bible
into San Lui Obispo and said in quotes, we harbor
no hatred and no revenge, and Christ has brought us

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together for this forgiveness. But another Associated Press story had
a different version. They had this and they included not
only a picture of Missus Bristol carrying their little Bible
all the way from Dearborn, Michigan, but it says the
special service, the religious service to show their Christianity and
forgiveness was set up by Charles tex Watson. Of course,

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Charles tex Watson did all the murders for the Manson family.
He killed the Lobbyancas, and he killed pregnant Sharon Tate
because Sue Atkins and the others couldn't quite stab her.
She was pregnant and pleading for her baby. And he
murdered the five people in Sharon Tate's home and the
next night murdered the two people in the Lobbyanca home.

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It's interesting that Charles Watson is now a chaplain at
the prison in San lou Obispo and is bringing in
the Christianity because the Charles Watson, the whole story and
the Manson was to increase the race war. And they
were devout Christians in the sense that they were anti
anti Jewish. They were swastikas on their foreheads, they were Nazis,

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and they punished the women if they slept with a
black person or anyone of black blood or Jewish blood,
and they were very certain of their Nazi white Aaryan links.
And again their Christianity, as opposed to say Jewish forgiveness
shows up. And this family made their trip two thousand
miles pushing Christianity and forgiveness, and Charles Watson set that

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meeting up. Another news article is last week you might
not have seen, you know, the William Sullivan of Division
five of the FBI, probably the most important link of
the CIA and the FBI to the Kennedy assassination, was
murdered this last winter, November the ninth. And I know
you'll all feel very badly, but the man who killed

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him in this hunting accident has had his hunting license
revoked for ten years. He won't be able to hunt
for ten years because he mistook mister Sullivan for a deer.
Mister Sullivan was wearing a brown hat and a white
turtleneck shirt and a red and black hunting shirt. And Daniels,
the son of a policeman, a state police officer, shot

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William Sullivan, and so he won't be able to go
hunting for ten years. I know, as I said, you
can see really badly about that. For those of you
that collect information on conspiracies. I have an article from
Stag magazine that was sent to me. It's very important.
It's December seventy seven, volume twenty eight, number twelve, and

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it's page twenty eight. It's on Interpol. I referee for
the Rockefeller Nazi Jagar Hoover links to Interpol, and there
are links of Jagar Hoover, she Gordon, Lyddy, Gerald Ford,
Richard Nixon. I don't want to go in the whole
article today, but you can get that it's called Interpol
more ruthless than the CIA well being as this is

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set up by the pure blooded Nazis and the CIA
still isn't goose stepping or marching with the armbands. Read
about Interpol. Get that it's Stag magazine, New York City.
You can get a hold of an old copy and
write for this issue by Josh Logan, Interpol more ruthless
than the Nazis. I may go to it sometime, but

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not this evening. And I also want to tell you
I do have the booklets on the Buckley family that
you can order now the two dollars. If possible, send
a novel lope addressed again otherwise I'll send it out
to you. This is put out by the National Labor Caucus,
but it's really really important and I think you should
have it, just like some of you have ordered the

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Torbot document, and I've sent out about ninety copies of
the Gemstone File. This is the background of the William
Buckley family in espionage in Mexico, the setup of the
brothers and sisters, the links to the Rothschilds, the Rockefellows,
and the importance of this is that William Buckley and E.

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Howard Hutt worked in the CIA and worked for the
assassination teams and Robert Mayhew. And it goes into the
origin of the Buckley family, the father and I will
do some details on it, but you can order it
in advance.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I do.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I have about ten minutes left and I'm going to
give you the address of a conspiracy digest that is
terribly important and I would wish I could do hours
on this particular digest. There's a man called mc alpine
Alpie who has been getting out of Conspiracy Digest. It's
a short newsletter for eight or ten pages, and he's

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been getting out quite a while. He has a bachelor's
and master's degree in mechanical engineering and for ten years.
He describes himself as having progressively shifted his energy away
from his original vocation that he was studying in engineering
towards the neglected science of economics, human liberty, and political intrigue.

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He has concluded that until the great issues of money
and power are resolved, technical and material efforts are little
more than feudile to eliminate alleviate the human condition. He
asked me, mister MacAlpine, to write for his Conspiracy Digest,
and I will have an article coming out pretty soon,

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in another month or two. He breaks it into seasons.
The ninth fall of seventy seven, which is late in
coming out, is four ninety five, and you can write
him and order this. That issue includes an article by
John Judge, Why was Dan Rather in Dealey Plaza? An
interview with May Brussel, the radical assassination and conspiracy researcher,

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and another section there the state of research on the Power,
lead by Anthony Sutton. He wrote me some very challenging questions,
and they're very important questions, and he's going to put
them into his Conspiracy Digest, and I'm really glad to
answer it. Because a lot of people want to know
where my head is at politically, how I vote, what
do I think about conspiracies, how important they are. And

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this gives you a lot of background, and you can
order it from him. As I say, it's four ninety
five for that section the Fall of seventy seven, which
is late in coming out. You can order that from him,
and I'll give you the address of his digest. It's
box seven sixty six Dearborn, Michigan. The zip code is
four to eight one two one, And he has some

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information about this digest, and this is what he says.
For many years, a real need has existed for a
publication that objectively summarizes the latest facts and theories of history.
To even begin the grasp the overall picture, this serious
student has to subscribe to literally dozens of periodicals, each
with its own distorting ideological bias, and go through hu

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hundreds of books. There are advanced students of conspiracy and
intrigue who soon become weary of waiting through propagandistic or
simplistic introductory verbiage, and they are looking for a cost
and time effective way to keep abreast of the latest
intelligence concerning the machinations of the international ruling conspiracy. Alpine

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Enterprise is filling the conspiracy information gap with their new
publication called Conspiracy Digest. He's enlarging it. It's fifteen dollars
for one year. That's box seven sixty six Dearborn, Michigan,
or you can order them in segments of four ninety five.
Each issue is crammed with an objective summaries gleaned from

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a wide range of periodicals and books, both from contemporary
and little known writings of the past. The sources are
chosen from the establishment as well as the right and left.
And this is true. I've seen some copies of his
digests and they really are good, he said. The sources
for each article are fully identified. The names and address

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is required for detailed follow up. This Digest will serve
you as a handbook and a directory for aspiring conspiracy experts,
as well as providing a time saving summary of divers
and studied sources. He wants to reach those people that
he calls a small elite sophisticated advanced students. The Digest

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has no rehash of well known or elementary conspiracy theories.
He goes into the most current and the oldest books,
and he has a list of books available. I added
it up and unfortunately I don't have the two thousand
dollars to buy the old books that he has advertised here,
because if I bought them, I would really round out

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my library, and maybe it's a goal to have. He
has a section here on the Bolshevik Revolution collection Wall
Street and the Bolshevik Revolution. He has four or five
books and they're the old books that range in one
hundred dollars. There's another section on cycles of war, what
caused World War One and what caused World War II.

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He has a large selection on the Rockefeller collection. That
would be one hundred and sixty one dollars for these books.
But he has the list of the books, a section
on the Rich and the super Rich, another on the
oil collection, one on the Rothschild collection, the Colonel House collection,
and he's listed them into subjects and he's collected all
these invaluable books. They're old, some of them are old,

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and they're hard to get, and he has them all
broken down the categories and you can write for his
list and order his books. You don't have to take
the whole digest, but you can order his books. He
has an order for him, and there's many many books
that are really good. I could just list them off
for you. He does have the Buckley Family, the paper
that I have advertised, it's five dollars here and these

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are available. I have reprints here for two dollars for you.
But he's got such things as the Senior Lindbergh paperback
reprint going back years to father of Charles Lindberg and
his political stance and how Charles Lindberg became the person
that worked with the Nazis, and things that we didn't
know about Charles Lindberg. Just because he flew across the Atlantic,

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he became our instant hero. He breaks down history into
very sensible World War Two, the conspiracies, and the World
War One, the International Banking Collection. As I say, you
can get these individually. You can get the Conspiracy Digest
from him in seasonal four ninety five each four sections

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a year, or you can get the fifteen dollars subscriptions
for the whole year. Or you send him two dollars
and get this newspaper. It's like a six page newspaper
with a rundown of all these books, these many many
books on Conspiracies. He has one book, The Most Powerful
Man in the World, The Life of Sir Henry Deterting.

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His copies are seventy five dollars. You may be able
to get them for less. And one thing that's very
interesting is that the books that he talks about and
the prices that he has these books are going up.
And I know that there's very valuable books such as
The Merchants of Death to Fere, the Great Conspiracy by
Michael Sayers, a group of books in my lar ibrary

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and other people have that I know, And these things
are very, very valuable. They are the answer to the
present problems. And the prices are just jumping. It could
become even a good investment if you have money for
some of these books, because a lot of them are
being bought up, are taken out of print. And so
I suggest that you get that. He calls it a

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tabloid catalog for independent thinkers. This is only twenty five
cents Albine Mprizes po Buck seven sixty six dearborn, Michigan.
And you can get all the information about his past publications.
The books that are available, the old books are available.
The people who are writing about conspiracies, the index of
the future articles, the provocative questions has. When I talk

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on dialogue conspiracy, there isn't much you can do in
one half hour. But you can have these resources in
your hands, and when something comes up, or you have
a little extra money, or once a month or once
every three months you want to invest yourselves, can buy
the supporting information so that you become knowledgeable. As I say,
he says. Mister Alpine says that the great issues of

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who has the money and who controls the power have
to be resolved before we can go forward. Our technology
won't help us. Our material efforts, our feudal people aren't happier,
they aren't better off, They're going bankrupt. He writes about
the gold conspiracy, has these books, the money conspiracies, and
in order to help the human condition, you have to

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understand the manipulators. And I agree with him, and as
I say, I did write an article for him. It's
about twenty pages. It was hard. He asked me hard questions,
and I try to give simple answers because I like
to reduce it down to the most understandable expressions. I'm
not very complex or complicated. I see these things, these

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murders as pretty cut and dry, and I think I
understand who is behind the wheels. I've read many, many books,
hundreds and hundreds on the assassinations and conspiracies, and he
has a thousand more. I can head to my library
if I could afford them. And then you get a
really complete picture of who is manipulating us, whether it's
our property taxes, or our swine flu vaccines, or our

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genetic future, or the taking away the gold. And once
you understand the team players by just reading three or
four books, then you understand the rules of the game. Well,
you can order this from him. I really suggest that
you should. And if you want these books on the
Buckley family, you can write to me and then hopefully
next week we can get into the subject of the

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Buckley family. This is Maye Brussel and Carmel, California, and
I'll see you next week on Dialogue Conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
You've been listening to Dialog Conspiracy with may Russell