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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's time once again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel.
For the past fourteen years, May has been researching and
uncovering facts and evidence from between the lines of the
news and placing them in a more thorough perspective of
how conspiracy, political assassination, and abuses of power affect us.
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All Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California and
now May Brussel.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good evening. This is May Brussel and Carmel, California.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's Dialogue Conspiracy number three hundred and six for those
of you that keep the tapes and number the programs.
And this is January the twenty ninth, nineteen seventy eight.
I wrote down nineteen seventy six. It's really nineteen seventy eight.
Last Sunday night, I sounded tired. I was angry when
I can came in about matters pertaining to the work,
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and I probably shouldn't have carried it over into the program.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And I was exhausted about problems again related to the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Research that affected me earlier in the day, a hassle
which I may share with you sometime on Dialogue Conspiracy,
but right now I'll keep it under the covers for
a while. It's something that's been on my mind for
almost a year, and when I've had a year of
it and i'm fit up, I'll share it with you
because I'm really disturbed about some problems, and I'll go
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over them with you. But as Thomas Paine said, those
who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo
the fatigue of supporting it. And believe me, there is
fatigue sometimes related to the work. The Nazi race war
phone messages were upheld in the Texas Appeals Court. I
don't know if any of you knew that this was
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going on. In Houston, Texas, the American Nazi Party has
been sending telephone messages asking for race war, offering five
thousand dollars reward for killing non whites and Jews. A
radio station managed by a Jew, Marvin Zendler, prohibited this
advertisement on the air, and there was an eighty seven
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thousand dollars suit against mister Zendler and the television station.
The appeals court has said that they can go ahead
with their message calling for the all out war against
Jews and non whites, and the prize is five thousand
dollars to kill such persons. And then the court said
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that if this incites violence and a crime is committed,
then you can take it to the courts and punish
them later, but they can offer the bounty and unless
it goes to a higher court. That's one of the
decisions that came down this week. I finished a small
section of an article for WE magazine.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This week.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They asked me to send them a list of witnesses
to the John Kennedy assassination that have been killed since
November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. I don't believe they
realized how long the list would be.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It totaled at two hundred and forty one persons.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In the next few weeks on Dialoged Conspiracy, I will
read some of those to you. These were pertinent witnesses
that I know died of suspicious circumstances, and as I say,
my total was two hundred and forty one. They also
are taking out of their files the interview that Paul
Krasner did with me a year ago. It was called
titled The Mind of may Brussel or Who's Afraid of
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May Brussel and WE Magdan was afraid. We magazine was
afraid of may Brussel. They took the article and paid
for it and put in the drawer. And now that
Paul has become the editor of Hustler, they've resurrected this
article and they won't send it back to him. He
wanted to buy it back from them, and they refuse.
So it will be a print in about two and
a half to three months. So you'll be able to
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see an interview that I had with Krasner, and it's
a very good interview into again the theme that I
keep talking about the Nazification of America and the links
of Nazis to the John Kennedy assassination and other conspiracies
in this country. They also want this story of the
killing of the rock musicians that has bounced back and forth.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I told you Paul Krasner wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
For a Hustler, but I refuse to give him anything
because of his working with Mark Lane and Dick Gregory.
And as soon as I refuse to do that, two
days later I got a telephone call and Hefner Playboy.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We Magazine want the story if I'll give it to them.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So there are a lot of outlets for publishing these stories,
and I'm holding my guns as to my position with Hustler,
and I always will until something drastic has changed there.
I did finish a short article from Malcolm Abrams from
Midnight that'll be on the stands. I get telephone calls
and letters from people wanting things that I'm writing and
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working on during the week, and sometimes they come and
go before I get a chance to tell you byline
always at midnight that you can get at drug store,
thrifty and Safeway with grocery stores is always under Malcolm Abrams,
and on the John Kennedy story, it's my article. He
asked me to support the new evidence coming out of
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the FBI files. There was a document that gerald Ford
was the spy on the Warren Commission, reporting back to
the FBI about the mean minutes of the Warren Commission.
And of course I told the people at Midnight that
gerald Ford was the spy for the Central Intelligence Agency
as well as the FBI.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He was the supreme spy on the Warren Commission.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And I listed twenty nine categories where he assisted or
committed a crime of cover up and infiltrated and purposely
distorted evidence serious charges against gerald Ford just working on
the Warren Commission, not covering up Watergate, but just the
Warren Commission. And of course Midnight simplifies their articles into
about half a page or a quarter of a page.
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So I think they used six examples, such as the
leaking of the diary to Life magazine, the tenth issue
nineteen sixty four of Lee Harvey Oswald's diary and the
fact that the original diary doesn't exist, nobody that I
know has seen it in the last fourteen years, and
the link of that diary to Gerald Ford. In his
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creation of this, Lee rby Oswald as being a bumbling
idiot for the news media. His responsibility was to cover
for both the FBI and CIA so that nobody would
believe that Oswald could be an agent of either agency
because he appeared stupid, and a lot of that cover
up was.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Directly responsible Gerald Ford. That will be out within a
week or two, and you can get that article.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And I also did the interview I mentioned last week
for Conspiracy Digest, and you can write to mister mc
alpine and ask for that section. You can subscribe by
the year fifteen dollars a year. It's a marvelous quarterly.
I just can't recommended highly enough, and it's full of information.
Or you can get seasonal sections and they're four ninety
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five and that's po box seven six six. So I
will be having these four publications coming out and you
can pick up the written material and see how I
have been working during the week when I'm not on
the air on KLRB on television. This week, there's four important,
three important programs in the local area. You can pick
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them up, and if you get tapes of this show,
you by the time you get these tapes, these are
series and you can pick them up in your local
community or follow the reruns if the beginning parts play again.
One is on KQED called The Prisoner, and next week
is the second section of This Prisoner. It's eight o'clock
on channel nine, and this is the story of an
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agent of the CIA who wants to retire and he's
gassed and put into a village to live out his life,
and they ask him what he remembers of his former
assignments or why he wants to retire. And the series,
I believe it's seventeen or eighteen weeks, and it's about
how they force him to talk. And there are various
people in this village that are allowed to live there,
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some very happy and allegedly normal, and others are obvious
surgical robots. And the degree upon which they treat his mind,
I guess, is in proportion to how much he can tell.
It's important. And as I say once before, it was
like the Borgia stick, the movie The Borgias Stick of
what they do to these agents. Now, when I look
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at the list of people that have been murdered who
had evidence of the Kennedy assassination, that were witnesses to
the assassination, there's a large number of them that are
CIA agents and FBI agents, and it seems that their
mind controlled village, if it exists, doesn't exist very well
because it seems that it's just easier to shoot them
out at a hunting field, such as William Sullivan was killed.
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Many of them are just gotten down and shot or poisoned.
The mind control system may be working for some of
them them that we don't know about, but evidently the
gun seems to be an expedient way to get rid
of a lot of the agents, and it's used. I'm
breaking the category of witnesses killed into the ways they
died and their professions and chartting them and graphing them out,
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these two hundred and forty one and that'll be interesting
and I'll share that with you when I get that done.
Another television show is this coming Tuesday, January thirty first,
and this is a new series. So if you get
the tapes and don't get this Tuesday show tapes of
the show next week, be sure to watch it. It's
called The Fall of the Eagles, and it's a new
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series on the fall of the Hobsburg's family, the hoen
Zollen and the Romanovs. I always have trouble pronouncing that,
and it's described as in quotes, the intrigues that caused
the great European dynasties of Austria, Hungary, Germany and Russia.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
To collapse after World War One.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now, this is a series on these families, and of
course the question arises, did the dynasty's decline or did
they just keep changing hands after World War One? In
two are the Manipulators today? A rerun of the ares
of before link to those families. I believe they are,
and I've had guests on this show several times. Lydia
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Blades who studied these families in this era extensively, and
she believes they are. And the new order that has
taken over when they were out isn't much different people
such as Prince Bernhard and the Netherlands represents the royal
family there, and mister Pershinski represents the Tsars Russians, and
Henry Kissinger the German aristocracy. And our country is very
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much in control of these people who on the surface
were kicked out as the heads of their government, but
run our National Security Council, our banking houses and our policies.
And then Saturday night on KQED again from eight to
nine pm, they're running a series called World War One,
which is a very simple title. I watched last week's
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story and it's fascinating. But this week they're going to
have this section called the Fall of the Royal Families,
and again it goes in to the Hobsburgs and the Romanovs,
the honz Alans, and it gives an hour's view of
these families dressed up in their feathers and finery, looking
very festive and regal, just at the collapse of World
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War One. And it's a good chance to get an
education into the era that is shaping our destiny now.
And you can see these pictures and then followed up
with books and study this history, and I think it
makes it easier to understand the present conspiracies. The paper
this week was filled with articles about j Edgar Hoover
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and James el Ray and Jack Ruby. I just brought
in a few headlines and maybe in a few weeks
I'll go into detail about them. There's a New York
policeman who retired from the police department named Patrick Murphy
who is writing a book called Commissioner.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
In it, he says that JEdgar Hoover was.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
The rasputant of American law enforcement, and he goes into
the abuses of JEdgar Hoover. Another article our FBI documents
released that were compiled while JEdgar Hoover was the head
of the FBI, saying the FBI claims that James Earl Ray,
who killed Martin Luther King with a lone assassin, and
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then it tells about James Earl Ray's plans to go
to Rhodesia, his Nazi feelings, a non specified amount of
money that he had that he was heavily involved in
drug traffic well in prison and had money well in prison,
and he went to Chicago after he got out of
the Missouri jail before he began his course of losing
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his traces and then finding himself behind the LORRAINEO Hotel
and Martin Luther King was shot. Chicago comes in the
news with the story of the FBI funding five thousand agents.
They gave them two point five million dollars. Was the
same FBI between nineteen sixty six and nineteen seventy six.
The FBI in Chicago got two point five million dollars
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and had more than five thousand spies. And of course
this is the era in sixty six sixty seven, when
James Earl Ray was in Chicago, when E. Howard Hunt
was in Chicago, when the Nazi Party was retrenching.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And getting stronger.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
They've been very heavily formed and armed ever since World
War One.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
In the Chicago area. In nineteen sixty eight, during this era,
we had the Chicago Riots.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
At the time of Democratic Convention, Jack Ruby had a
lot of contacts in Chicago, and earlier in Chicago in
sixty three, their plans to kill John Kennedy just a
few weeks before he was killed in Dallas. The FBI
has put a lot of money that they've admitted, and
goodness knows how much went to James Earl Way to
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help him get onto Canada once he had left.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The Missouri penitentiary. Well the headline, let tell you in
one page.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You opened the newspaper and it says James Earlray acted alone.
He opened the next sheet of paper and it says
new angle on Martin Luther King's death. The House Committee
in Washington, d C. Has subpoened mister J. B. Stoner
because Stoner says the FBI offered him twenty five thousand
dollars to have Martin Luther King killed and two thousand
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dollars to blow up a church in Birmingham, Alabama. Mister
Stoner has been attorney for the brother of James Earl Ray.
They worked together, worked with the Ray family, and he's
now under indictment for the Birmingham bombing. He's free on
ten thousand dollars bond and he's going to talk about
the offer of the FBI to.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Kill Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So it's interesting that while the House Committee in Washington,
d C. In January nineteen seventy seven is asking mister
Stoner about the FBI giving him, offering him twenty thousand
to kill Martin Luther King, and the FBI admitting.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
By their documents that they don't know where James Earldray
got the money.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You can see that one sheet of paper, for example,
in one day, has one story and then you turn
the page and you get another story.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But the facts remained that.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There was a lot of money spent for counterintelligence, and
within a few years you will find that both the
FBI and the CIA played the role an important role
in the.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Killing of Reverend Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The New Times magazine has a long article that was
reproduced in Today's Chronicle January twenty ninth, nineteen seventy seven,
the San Francisco Chronicle and New Times Magazine on Jack
Ruby and the Secret Life of Jack Ruby, having to
do with Santo's Trafficana Sam Giicana, Frank Sturgis, Frank Parini.
This isn't a secret life of Jack Ruby. All his
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information was available in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
When the Warren Commission was doing their work. They could
have found all of this out. It's taken fourteen years
to get the kind of researcher committees going that will admit.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Even in the San Francisco Chronicle, the links of Jack Ruby,
FBI and the CIA. But if it takes another fourteen years,
we're ready to do it. The researchers are ready to
stay with it and expose it and prove to you
that the Central Intelligence Agency and the President the United States,
and the Supreme Court, and the FBI and the local
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police department all worked together with organized crime and killed
these people in the last in the sixties and seventies.
And believe me, the truth will come out. There's a
little more every day. In fact, there's a lot coming out.
And so every time you see a cover up article,
there's ten more that prove even today how the major
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media is lying. And then we'll come a point where
they won't keep repeating the cover up because they'll have
to face the facts. Well, for the remaining time, I
want to talk a little bit about the Buckley family, because,
as I said before on earlier shows, you can.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Ordered these books.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I had reprints made on It's put out by the
National Labor Caucus and there are two dollars and it's
in oline of the Buckley family and their role with
the intelligence community and promotion of fascism in the United States.
I mentioned earlier a couple of weeks ago about William Buckley,
the father who worked in Mexico in nineteen eight to
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nineteen twenty one. He worked for the Rothchilds, the Royal
Dutch Shell Oil and helped overthrow the government over there
to put a puppet government in that would be supportive
of the oil interest in Mexico. I'm quoting now direct
quotes from research done from the National Labor Caucus Committee.
The booklet is put out by them, and I feel
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a lot of what they say on this thing, as.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Far as I could research it is accurate, So I'm
quoting directly from it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
They said the Buckley father was the chief liaison for
the Royal Dutch Shell Oil Company and Standard Oil, and
then in nineteen fifty two mister Buckley Senior went to
Venezuela to open up the Panapec Oil Company. That's the
oil company that George de Morangsfield worked for, the rby
Oswald Cia babysitter. In nineteen fifty eight, mister Buckley Senior
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died and left a fortune of one hundred and ten
million for his family and to get they formed a
corporation with interest Pandicpeck oil and other concessions in Australia, Greece,
which was overthrown by the CIA military coup, the Philippines
which is much controlled by the CIA, Guatemala, which is
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totally controlled by the CIA, Florida, which the government in Florida,
colleges and media and the officials of the Florida State
are practically all supportive of intelligence operations.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
With the CIA, and then they have interests.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
In Wyoming, Libya and Israel. The Buckley family had three
children that were active in intelligence from nineteen fifty to
fifty two.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They were recruited.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
One is William Buckley, the columnist and radio announcer, the
other is f Reid Buckley, and one is Priscilla Buckley,
the sister. It was a large family, but they named
these members of the family. E. Howard Hunt was recruited
by William Buckley as soon as he was sent to
Mexico to set up their CIA stations. E. Howard Hunt said,
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the first person I thought to bring in was mister Buckley,
and he accepted immediately.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Buckley set up the Rockefeller covert Action organization.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And it's the thesis of the National Labor Caucus that
there is no faction split between the extreme right and
the Rockefeller faction. That the purpose of the Buckleys was
to take the Joe McCarthy's and the gold Waters and
make them look very far right, so that the Rockefellers
would look liberal or left, whereas the Rockefellers really were
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the links to the Nazis, to Odessa, to the Interpol,
the international police that were formed by Adolf Hitler, And
that the Buckleys used this right left faction through National
Review and through the news media by promoting the very
far far right and creating that term military industrial and
avoiding references to Rockefella. It made it look as if
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there was a division between them, and there wasn't. The
purpose of the Buckleys, this research group said, was to
set up networks ever since World War Two, to set
up covert operations such as the Secret Army Organization in
France and the Cuban Exile Paramilitary and the Latin American
death squads. William Buckley and his family are major officers
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in the Rockefella Nazi connections and have organized underground the
funding of the Weather underground, the Japanese.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Army and the Black Liberation Army.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
That makes sense when you read of the conventions and
the Rand studies that terrorism will bring fascism to the
United States. We're reading this over and over again that
we must almost accept fascism because as a result of
terrorism threatening us.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The article goes on to.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Say that the Buscleys were useful to terpol Old, the
International Police Organization, and they coordinated with the Nazis, the
fascists and created what we call that left right network.
They set the basis for the vers I treating negotiations,
along with the Rockefeller Combine and Alan Dulles. In Spain
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after World War Two, f Reid Buckley was the liaison
with the Franco regime. And this is the headquarters of
Dorothy In. He houred Hunt in Spain, if you remember,
as came out at the time of Watergate, and also
of Mullen Associates, an office in Washington that had a
large connection to Spain. They worked with SS Colonel Otto
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Scarfa Skerensky, that's Hitler's Gestapo, the SS IN through the
Spanish headquarters, whose son in law was the financial technician
Houlmar shocked. He was the former head of Hitler's special
operations team, and these people worked with the Rockefellers and Buckley's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And the Hunts. They go on to say that f
Reid Buckley.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
William Buckley's brother, and there's James Buckley in the Congress,
was also in constant contact with the Vishy war criminals.
They set up the assassination teams against Charles de Gaull,
and they promoted Anti Pavolk, the butcher from the Nazis
who formed the Ustacies famous for their terrorism in Yugoslavia,
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the secret police that are now working also in the
United States with hijackings and various bombings. The assassination team
that killed Charles de Gaull was the same assassination team
that killed John Kennedy, funded by permandex.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So if every Buckley.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Was working with those teams, then he was also working
with the team that arranged the assassination of John Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
William Buckley Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Help Howard Hunt weave all the Nazi elements into the
Latin American CIA Division, and their headquarters were in Mexico,
he says, and William Buckley had constant contact with Nazi
organization in Spain.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It was the Buckley's job to help E.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Howard Hunt weave these elements in Latin America, the CIA
division into a private network. William Buckley Junior was in
constant contact with top level state department people, with ultra
secret meetings of Enter Poll and Skerensky in the Nazis.
In nineteen fifty two, William Buckley retired from the CIA.
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He retired in the same fashion that E. Howard Hunt
retired from the CIA in nineteen seventy and shows up
at the time of Watergate working at the offices of
the CIA for Robert.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Bennett and Mollen associates.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The purpose of retiring was to set up a deployment
network to invade Berlin for the uprisings, to set up
Nassar in Egypt, arrange the coup in Iran in nineteen
fifty three with Mosa doc Out and a Shave iran
In arranged the coup in Guatemala in nineteen fifty four.
Buckley remained the head of this Nazi interpol network.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He traveled with the.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
CIA agent Lieutenant General Vernon Walters, whose name serviced at
the time of Watergate, who worked closely through with Richard
Nixon through his entire political career up through Watergate. They
traveled in Greece where they set up Nazi networks and
later assassinated Richard Welch of the CIA. They were in
the Caribbean where they visited Orlando Bosch's group and set
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up a network there, and in Chile and in Spain,
worked on the Iberian Peninsula and Latin America. They set
up death squads in France. I have a series of
articles on a group called Tradition, Family and Property. He
claims that the Rocketfellow Buckley Nazi interpo combined sent those
up and they set up the Argentine death squads that
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continue to work, both of them all of the time,
killing all chants of any socialist form of government or
changes in society. Brazil and Argentine are sealed as fascist
states for it seems like forever, just as Chiley is now.
And they set up the killing of a Yendi later too,
but this is an early period. And then Buckley, after
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leaving the CIA, retiring in fifty two, played a very
important role in founding a magazine called National Review, and
he worked with people like Alan Dallas and John Foster,
Dulles and Henry Luce, and when he came home from Mexico,
he used the National Review as a network to reach
out and promote certain politicians such as Joe McCarthy, who
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would appear.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
To be as I say, extreme right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
He even goes into the fact that Joe McCarthy caught
on suddenly that members of the House Select Committee on
Endowed Foundations were linked to a web of Rockefeller network.
And this study goes on to say that the reason
Joe McCarthy had the rug pulled out for him was
that he was catching on to the conspiracy of the
Rockefeller brothers. When he was looking for communists, he was
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catching the Nazis and the Rockefeller network. So they had
to get rid of Eugene McCarthy, and they did in
a very cruel and unsubtle way. Brent Boswell, who's the
brother in law of William Buckley married to his sister,
joined with National Review and became an important controller of
the political career of Joe McCarthy. Did I say Eugene McCarthy,
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I it's Joe McCarthy, of course, but sometimes I say
I mean Joe. Through this Cold War period, the National
Abracarcas says that they used him as a psychological warfare mouthpiece.
He would talk about preventive wars against Korea. He carried
on a anti communist crusade. And Brent Boswell, the brother
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in law of the Buckleys, was the ghostwriter for Joe
McCarthy through this period. They promoted him and set off
a red scare through various books, and the right left
faction began with McCarthy looking so far right as I say.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That Rockefeller looked left.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And their purpose, the purpose of Nationalview, was to make
Rocky and George Bundy in that group seemed liberal and sensible,
and this is a direct quote from covering their Nazi
interpull Hitler connections and making them look very moderate compared
to Joe McCarthy. And they let this Joe McCarthy make
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up his list of names and scareless. And then McCarthy's
era was subdued when the Russians came out with a
hydrogen bomb just at that time, and then they couldn't
talk anymore about preventive wars because we were forced to
accept the de escalation of the Korean War and to
no win, and we were forced to do the same
thing in Vietnam because the Soviet Union now had the
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hydrogen bomb, and while McCarthy was a mouthpiece for all
of this, they couldn't let him continue any longer. And
as I say, this paper put out by the Labor Caucus,
it's twenty or thirty page paper, alleges that McCarthy was
sacrificed when he caught on to the dullest Rockefeller fascist link,
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and that's why he had to be discredited before the
Congress and laughed at and removed from Congress, and then
suffered a death under a strange circumstances.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And I do have one.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Book on the death of Joe McCarthy written by Midford Evans,
Max Eastman and Walder Littman worked with the Buckley faction.
They helped split set up the split against Leon Trotsky.
They planned books saying that Lennon left a will against Trotsky,
and then when Trotsky was murdered, they published literature against
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Trotsky and linked him to the Russians that were.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
In power at the time.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
They helped the split between Trotsky and Stalin, which already
did exist, and then played an instrumental part, according to
this document, in killing Leon Trotsky. And of course I
think I mentioned before on Dialog Conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That I had information several years.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Ago, at least five or six years ago, that George
de Morenschild and Colonel Lawrence Orloff, two men that had
visited with Marina Oswald in June of sixty two, were
responsible for the killing of Trotsky.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And if George Warnshell worked.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
For William Buckley, and if this can of worms does
link together to promote the Cold War and instigate cover
stories for factual cases that didn't happen the way that
these media sources presented, such as the National Review and
the Historic Societies, we can see a whole link of
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various conspiracies that are interrelated and manipulated by these powers,
using people all kinds of people, not only the left
but the right, and setting up in a tragic circumstance
Joe McCarthy. You may not feel sorry for him for
what he did, but he may have been induced or
persuaded or told these were the circumstances, and he was
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only the puppet of the people like Rockefeller and the Buckleys.
And as you study the history and you look back,
it's very possible that this was happening. Well, I may
do a little bit more on the Buckley next week
and take some more news of the House Select Committee
in Washington. Some of the new documents are coming up
with because people are asking me about those. Read your papers,
they're interesting these days. There's a lot more coming out,
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And keep your ears open and I'll see you next
week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You've been listening to Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel
It's time once again for Dialogue Conspiracy with May Brussel.
For the past fourteen years, May has been researching and
uncovering facts and evidence from between the lines of the
news and placing them in a more thorough perspective of
how conspiracy, political assassination, and abuses of power affect us.
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All Dialogue Conspiracy originates with KLRBFM in Carmel, California and
now May Brussel.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Good evening. This is May Brussel and Carmel, California.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's Dialogue Conspiracy number three hundred and six for those
of you that keep the tapes and number the programs.
And this is January the twenty ninth, nineteen seventy eight.
I wrote down nineteen seventy six. It's really nineteen seventy eight.
Last Sunday night, I sounded tired. I was angry when
I can came in about matters pertaining to the work,
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and I probably shouldn't have carried it over into the program.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
And I was exhausted about problems again related to the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Research that affected me earlier in the day, a hassle
which I may share with you sometime on Dialogue Conspiracy,
but right now I'll keep it under the covers for
a while. It's something that's been on my mind for
almost a year, and when I've had a year of
it and i'm fit up, I'll share it with you
because I'm really disturbed about some problems, and I'll go
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over them with you. But as Thomas Paine said, those
who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo
the fatigue of supporting it. And believe me, there is
fatigue sometimes related to the work. The Nazi race war
phone messages were upheld in the Texas Appeals Court. I
don't know if any of you knew that this was
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going on. In Houston, Texas, the American Nazi Party has
been sending telephone messages asking for race war, offering five
thousand dollars reward for killing non whites and Jews. A
radio station managed by a Jew, Marvin Zendler, prohibited this
advertisement on the air, and there was an eighty seven
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thousand dollars suit against mister Zendler and the television station.
The appeals court has said that they can go ahead
with their message calling for the all out war against
Jews and non whites, and the prize is five thousand
dollars to kill such persons. And then the court said
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that if this incites violence and a crime is committed,
then you can take it to the courts and punish
them later, but they can offer the bounty and unless
it goes to a higher court. That's one of the
decisions that came down this week. I finished a small
section of an article for WE magazine.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
This week.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They asked me to send them a list of witnesses
to the John Kennedy assassination that have been killed since
November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. I don't believe they
realized how long the list would be.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It totaled at two hundred and forty one persons.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
In the next few weeks on Dialoged Conspiracy, I will
read some of those to you. These were pertinent witnesses
that I know died of suspicious circumstances, and as I say,
my total was two hundred and forty one. They also
are taking out of their files the interview that Paul
Krasner did with me a year ago. It was called
titled The Mind of may Brussel or Who's Afraid of
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May Brussel and WE Magdan was afraid. We magazine was
afraid of may Brussel. They took the article and paid
for it and put in the drawer. And now that
Paul has become the editor of Hustler, they've resurrected this
article and they won't send it back to him. He
wanted to buy it back from them, and they refuse.
So it will be a print in about two and
a half to three months. So you'll be able to
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see an interview that I had with Krasner, and it's
a very good interview into again the theme that I
keep talking about the Nazification of America and the links
of Nazis to the John Kennedy assassination and other conspiracies
in this country. They also want this story of the
killing of the rock musicians that has bounced back and forth.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I told you Paul Krasner wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
For a Hustler, but I refuse to give him anything
because of his working with Mark Lane and Dick Gregory.
And as soon as I refuse to do that, two
days later I got a telephone call and Hefner Playboy.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
We Magazine want the story if I'll give it to them.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So there are a lot of outlets for publishing these stories,
and I'm holding my guns as to my position with Hustler,
and I always will until something drastic has changed there.
I did finish a short article from Malcolm Abrams from
Midnight that'll be on the stands. I get telephone calls
and letters from people wanting things that I'm writing and
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working on during the week, and sometimes they come and
go before I get a chance to tell you byline
always at midnight that you can get at drug store,
thrifty and Safeway with grocery stores is always under Malcolm Abrams,
and on the John Kennedy story, it's my article. He
asked me to support the new evidence coming out of
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the FBI files. There was a document that gerald Ford
was the spy on the Warren Commission, reporting back to
the FBI about the mean minutes of the Warren Commission.
And of course I told the people at Midnight that
gerald Ford was the spy for the Central Intelligence Agency
as well as the FBI.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He was the supreme spy on the Warren Commission.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And I listed twenty nine categories where he assisted or
committed a crime of cover up and infiltrated and purposely
distorted evidence serious charges against gerald Ford just working on
the Warren Commission, not covering up Watergate, but just the
Warren Commission. And of course Midnight simplifies their articles into
about half a page or a quarter of a page.
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So I think they used six examples, such as the
leaking of the diary to Life magazine, the tenth issue
nineteen sixty four of Lee Harvey Oswald's diary and the
fact that the original diary doesn't exist, nobody that I
know has seen it in the last fourteen years, and
the link of that diary to Gerald Ford. In his
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creation of this, Lee rby Oswald as being a bumbling
idiot for the news media. His responsibility was to cover
for both the FBI and CIA so that nobody would
believe that Oswald could be an agent of either agency
because he appeared stupid, and a lot of that cover
up was.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Directly responsible Gerald Ford. That will be out within a
week or two, and you can get that article.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And I also did the interview I mentioned last week
for Conspiracy Digest, and you can write to mister mc
alpine and ask for that section. You can subscribe by
the year fifteen dollars a year. It's a marvelous quarterly.
I just can't recommended highly enough, and it's full of information.
Or you can get seasonal sections and they're four ninety
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five and that's po box seven six six. So I
will be having these four publications coming out and you
can pick up the written material and see how I
have been working during the week when I'm not on
the air on KLRB on television. This week, there's four important,
three important programs in the local area. You can pick
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them up, and if you get tapes of this show,
you by the time you get these tapes, these are
series and you can pick them up in your local
community or follow the reruns if the beginning parts play again.
One is on KQED called The Prisoner, and next week
is the second section of This Prisoner. It's eight o'clock
on channel nine, and this is the story of an
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agent of the CIA who wants to retire and he's
gassed and put into a village to live out his life,
and they ask him what he remembers of his former
assignments or why he wants to retire. And the series,
I believe it's seventeen or eighteen weeks, and it's about
how they force him to talk. And there are various
people in this village that are allowed to live there,
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some very happy and allegedly normal, and others are obvious
surgical robots. And the degree upon which they treat his mind,
I guess, is in proportion to how much he can tell.
It's important. And as I say once before, it was
like the Borgia stick, the movie The Borgias Stick of
what they do to these agents. Now, when I look
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at the list of people that have been murdered who
had evidence of the Kennedy assassination, that were witnesses to
the assassination, there's a large number of them that are
CIA agents and FBI agents, and it seems that their
mind controlled village, if it exists, doesn't exist very well
because it seems that it's just easier to shoot them
out at a hunting field, such as William Sullivan was killed.
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Many of them are just gotten down and shot or poisoned.
The mind control system may be working for some of
them them that we don't know about, but evidently the
gun seems to be an expedient way to get rid
of a lot of the agents, and it's used. I'm
breaking the category of witnesses killed into the ways they
died and their professions and chartting them and graphing them out,
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these two hundred and forty one and that'll be interesting
and I'll share that with you when I get that done.
Another television show is this coming Tuesday, January thirty first,
and this is a new series. So if you get
the tapes and don't get this Tuesday show tapes of
the show next week, be sure to watch it. It's
called The Fall of the Eagles, and it's a new
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series on the fall of the Hobsburg's family, the hoen
Zollen and the Romanovs. I always have trouble pronouncing that,
and it's described as in quotes, the intrigues that caused
the great European dynasties of Austria, Hungary, Germany and Russia.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
To collapse after World War One.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now, this is a series on these families, and of
course the question arises, did the dynasty's decline or did
they just keep changing hands after World War One? In
two are the Manipulators today? A rerun of the ares
of before link to those families. I believe they are,
and I've had guests on this show several times. Lydia
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Blades who studied these families in this era extensively, and
she believes they are. And the new order that has
taken over when they were out isn't much different people
such as Prince Bernhard and the Netherlands represents the royal
family there, and mister Pershinski represents the Tsars Russians, and
Henry Kissinger the German aristocracy. And our country is very
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much in control of these people who on the surface
were kicked out as the heads of their government, but
run our National Security Council, our banking houses and our policies.
And then Saturday night on KQED again from eight to
nine pm, they're running a series called World War One,
which is a very simple title. I watched last week's
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story and it's fascinating. But this week they're going to
have this section called the Fall of the Royal Families,
and again it goes in to the Hobsburgs and the Romanovs,
the honz Alans, and it gives an hour's view of
these families dressed up in their feathers and finery, looking
very festive and regal, just at the collapse of World
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War One. And it's a good chance to get an
education into the era that is shaping our destiny now.
And you can see these pictures and then followed up
with books and study this history, and I think it
makes it easier to understand the present conspiracies. The paper
this week was filled with articles about j Edgar Hoover
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and James el Ray and Jack Ruby. I just brought
in a few headlines and maybe in a few weeks
I'll go into detail about them. There's a New York
policeman who retired from the police department named Patrick Murphy
who is writing a book called Commissioner.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
In it, he says that JEdgar Hoover was.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
The rasputant of American law enforcement, and he goes into
the abuses of JEdgar Hoover. Another article our FBI documents
released that were compiled while JEdgar Hoover was the head
of the FBI, saying the FBI claims that James Earl Ray,
who killed Martin Luther King with a lone assassin, and
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then it tells about James Earl Ray's plans to go
to Rhodesia, his Nazi feelings, a non specified amount of
money that he had that he was heavily involved in
drug traffic well in prison and had money well in prison,
and he went to Chicago after he got out of
the Missouri jail before he began his course of losing
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his traces and then finding himself behind the LORRAINEO Hotel
and Martin Luther King was shot. Chicago comes in the
news with the story of the FBI funding five thousand agents.
They gave them two point five million dollars. Was the
same FBI between nineteen sixty six and nineteen seventy six.
The FBI in Chicago got two point five million dollars
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and had more than five thousand spies. And of course
this is the era in sixty six sixty seven, when
James Earl Ray was in Chicago, when E. Howard Hunt
was in Chicago, when the Nazi Party was retrenching.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And getting stronger.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
They've been very heavily formed and armed ever since World
War One.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
In the Chicago area. In nineteen sixty eight, during this era,
we had the Chicago Riots.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
At the time of Democratic Convention, Jack Ruby had a
lot of contacts in Chicago, and earlier in Chicago in
sixty three, their plans to kill John Kennedy just a
few weeks before he was killed in Dallas. The FBI
has put a lot of money that they've admitted, and
goodness knows how much went to James Earl Way to
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help him get onto Canada once he had left.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
The Missouri penitentiary. Well the headline, let tell you in
one page.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You opened the newspaper and it says James Earlray acted alone.
He opened the next sheet of paper and it says
new angle on Martin Luther King's death. The House Committee
in Washington, d C. Has subpoened mister J. B. Stoner
because Stoner says the FBI offered him twenty five thousand
dollars to have Martin Luther King killed and two thousand
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dollars to blow up a church in Birmingham, Alabama. Mister
Stoner has been attorney for the brother of James Earl Ray.
They worked together, worked with the Ray family, and he's
now under indictment for the Birmingham bombing. He's free on
ten thousand dollars bond and he's going to talk about
the offer of the FBI to.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Kill Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So it's interesting that while the House Committee in Washington,
d C. In January nineteen seventy seven is asking mister
Stoner about the FBI giving him, offering him twenty thousand
to kill Martin Luther King, and the FBI admitting.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
By their documents that they don't know where James Earldray
got the money.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You can see that one sheet of paper, for example,
in one day, has one story and then you turn
the page and you get another story.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But the facts remained that.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There was a lot of money spent for counterintelligence, and
within a few years you will find that both the
FBI and the CIA played the role an important role
in the.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Killing of Reverend Martin Luther King.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
The New Times magazine has a long article that was
reproduced in Today's Chronicle January twenty ninth, nineteen seventy seven,
the San Francisco Chronicle and New Times Magazine on Jack
Ruby and the Secret Life of Jack Ruby, having to
do with Santo's Trafficana Sam Giicana, Frank Sturgis, Frank Parini.
This isn't a secret life of Jack Ruby. All his
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information was available in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
When the Warren Commission was doing their work. They could
have found all of this out. It's taken fourteen years
to get the kind of researcher committees going that will admit.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Even in the San Francisco Chronicle, the links of Jack Ruby,
FBI and the CIA. But if it takes another fourteen years,
we're ready to do it. The researchers are ready to
stay with it and expose it and prove to you
that the Central Intelligence Agency and the President the United States,
and the Supreme Court, and the FBI and the local
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police department all worked together with organized crime and killed
these people in the last in the sixties and seventies.
And believe me, the truth will come out. There's a
little more every day. In fact, there's a lot coming out.
And so every time you see a cover up article,
there's ten more that prove even today how the major
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media is lying. And then we'll come a point where
they won't keep repeating the cover up because they'll have
to face the facts. Well, for the remaining time, I
want to talk a little bit about the Buckley family, because,
as I said before on earlier shows, you can.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Ordered these books.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I had reprints made on It's put out by the
National Labor Caucus and there are two dollars and it's
in oline of the Buckley family and their role with
the intelligence community and promotion of fascism in the United States.
I mentioned earlier a couple of weeks ago about William Buckley,
the father who worked in Mexico in nineteen eight to
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nineteen twenty one. He worked for the Rothchilds, the Royal
Dutch Shell Oil and helped overthrow the government over there
to put a puppet government in that would be supportive
of the oil interest in Mexico. I'm quoting now direct
quotes from research done from the National Labor Caucus Committee.
The booklet is put out by them, and I feel
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a lot of what they say on this thing, as.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Far as I could research it is accurate, So I'm
quoting directly from it.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
They said the Buckley father was the chief liaison for
the Royal Dutch Shell Oil Company and Standard Oil, and
then in nineteen fifty two mister Buckley Senior went to
Venezuela to open up the Panapec Oil Company. That's the
oil company that George de Morangsfield worked for, the rby
Oswald Cia babysitter. In nineteen fifty eight, mister Buckley Senior
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died and left a fortune of one hundred and ten
million for his family and to get they formed a
corporation with interest Pandicpeck oil and other concessions in Australia, Greece,
which was overthrown by the CIA military coup, the Philippines
which is much controlled by the CIA, Guatemala, which is
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totally controlled by the CIA, Florida, which the government in Florida,
colleges and media and the officials of the Florida State
are practically all supportive of intelligence operations.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
With the CIA, and then they have interests.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
In Wyoming, Libya and Israel. The Buckley family had three
children that were active in intelligence from nineteen fifty to
fifty two.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They were recruited.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
One is William Buckley, the columnist and radio announcer, the
other is f Reid Buckley, and one is Priscilla Buckley,
the sister. It was a large family, but they named
these members of the family. E. Howard Hunt was recruited
by William Buckley as soon as he was sent to
Mexico to set up their CIA stations. E. Howard Hunt said,
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the first person I thought to bring in was mister Buckley,
and he accepted immediately.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Buckley set up the Rockefeller covert Action organization.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And it's the thesis of the National Labor Caucus that
there is no faction split between the extreme right and
the Rockefeller faction. That the purpose of the Buckleys was
to take the Joe McCarthy's and the gold Waters and
make them look very far right, so that the Rockefellers
would look liberal or left, whereas the Rockefellers really were
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the links to the Nazis, to Odessa, to the Interpol,
the international police that were formed by Adolf Hitler, And
that the Buckleys used this right left faction through National
Review and through the news media by promoting the very
far far right and creating that term military industrial and
avoiding references to Rockefella. It made it look as if
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there was a division between them, and there wasn't. The
purpose of the Buckleys, this research group said, was to
set up networks ever since World War Two, to set
up covert operations such as the Secret Army Organization in
France and the Cuban Exile Paramilitary and the Latin American
death squads. William Buckley and his family are major officers
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in the Rockefella Nazi connections and have organized underground the
funding of the Weather underground, the Japanese.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Army and the Black Liberation Army.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
That makes sense when you read of the conventions and
the Rand studies that terrorism will bring fascism to the
United States. We're reading this over and over again that
we must almost accept fascism because as a result of
terrorism threatening us.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The article goes on to.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Say that the Buscleys were useful to terpol Old, the
International Police Organization, and they coordinated with the Nazis, the
fascists and created what we call that left right network.
They set the basis for the vers I treating negotiations,
along with the Rockefeller Combine and Alan Dulles. In Spain
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after World War Two, f Reid Buckley was the liaison
with the Franco regime. And this is the headquarters of
Dorothy In. He houred Hunt in Spain, if you remember,
as came out at the time of Watergate, and also
of Mullen Associates, an office in Washington that had a
large connection to Spain. They worked with SS Colonel Otto
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Scarfa Skerensky, that's Hitler's Gestapo, the SS IN through the
Spanish headquarters, whose son in law was the financial technician
Houlmar shocked. He was the former head of Hitler's special
operations team, and these people worked with the Rockefellers and Buckley's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And the Hunts. They go on to say that f
Reid Buckley.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
William Buckley's brother, and there's James Buckley in the Congress,
was also in constant contact with the Vishy war criminals.
They set up the assassination teams against Charles de Gaull,
and they promoted Anti Pavolk, the butcher from the Nazis
who formed the Ustacies famous for their terrorism in Yugoslavia,
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the secret police that are now working also in the
United States with hijackings and various bombings. The assassination team
that killed Charles de Gaull was the same assassination team
that killed John Kennedy, funded by permandex.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
So if every Buckley.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Was working with those teams, then he was also working
with the team that arranged the assassination of John Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
William Buckley Junior.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Help Howard Hunt weave all the Nazi elements into the
Latin American CIA Division, and their headquarters were in Mexico,
he says, and William Buckley had constant contact with Nazi
organization in Spain.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
It was the Buckley's job to help E.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Howard Hunt weave these elements in Latin America, the CIA
division into a private network. William Buckley Junior was in
constant contact with top level state department people, with ultra
secret meetings of Enter Poll and Skerensky in the Nazis.
In nineteen fifty two, William Buckley retired from the CIA.
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He retired in the same fashion that E. Howard Hunt
retired from the CIA in nineteen seventy and shows up
at the time of Watergate working at the offices of
the CIA for Robert.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Bennett and Mollen associates.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
The purpose of retiring was to set up a deployment
network to invade Berlin for the uprisings, to set up
Nassar in Egypt, arrange the coup in Iran in nineteen
fifty three with Mosa doc Out and a Shave iran
In arranged the coup in Guatemala in nineteen fifty four.
Buckley remained the head of this Nazi interpol network.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He traveled with the.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
CIA agent Lieutenant General Vernon Walters, whose name serviced at
the time of Watergate, who worked closely through with Richard
Nixon through his entire political career up through Watergate. They
traveled in Greece where they set up Nazi networks and
later assassinated Richard Welch of the CIA. They were in
the Caribbean where they visited Orlando Bosch's group and set
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up a network there, and in Chile and in Spain,
worked on the Iberian Peninsula and Latin America. They set
up death squads in France. I have a series of
articles on a group called Tradition, Family and Property. He
claims that the Rocketfellow Buckley Nazi interpo combined sent those
up and they set up the Argentine death squads that
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continue to work, both of them all of the time,
killing all chants of any socialist form of government or
changes in society. Brazil and Argentine are sealed as fascist
states for it seems like forever, just as Chiley is now.
And they set up the killing of a Yendi later too,
but this is an early period. And then Buckley, after
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leaving the CIA, retiring in fifty two, played a very
important role in founding a magazine called National Review, and
he worked with people like Alan Dallas and John Foster,
Dulles and Henry Luce, and when he came home from Mexico,
he used the National Review as a network to reach
out and promote certain politicians such as Joe McCarthy, who
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would appear.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
To be as I say, extreme right.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
He even goes into the fact that Joe McCarthy caught
on suddenly that members of the House Select Committee on
Endowed Foundations were linked to a web of Rockefeller network.
And this study goes on to say that the reason
Joe McCarthy had the rug pulled out for him was
that he was catching on to the conspiracy of the
Rockefeller brothers. When he was looking for communists, he was
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catching the Nazis and the Rockefeller network. So they had
to get rid of Eugene McCarthy, and they did in
a very cruel and unsubtle way. Brent Boswell, who's the
brother in law of William Buckley married to his sister,
joined with National Review and became an important controller of
the political career of Joe McCarthy. Did I say Eugene McCarthy,
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I it's Joe McCarthy, of course, but sometimes I say
I mean Joe. Through this Cold War period, the National
Abracarcas says that they used him as a psychological warfare mouthpiece.
He would talk about preventive wars against Korea. He carried
on a anti communist crusade. And Brent Boswell, the brother
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in law of the Buckleys, was the ghostwriter for Joe
McCarthy through this period. They promoted him and set off
a red scare through various books, and the right left
faction began with McCarthy looking so far right as I say.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That Rockefeller looked left.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And their purpose, the purpose of Nationalview, was to make
Rocky and George Bundy in that group seemed liberal and sensible,
and this is a direct quote from covering their Nazi
interpull Hitler connections and making them look very moderate compared
to Joe McCarthy. And they let this Joe McCarthy make
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up his list of names and scareless. And then McCarthy's
era was subdued when the Russians came out with a
hydrogen bomb just at that time, and then they couldn't
talk anymore about preventive wars because we were forced to
accept the de escalation of the Korean War and to
no win, and we were forced to do the same
thing in Vietnam because the Soviet Union now had the
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hydrogen bomb, and while McCarthy was a mouthpiece for all
of this, they couldn't let him continue any longer. And
as I say, this paper put out by the Labor Caucus,
it's twenty or thirty page paper, alleges that McCarthy was
sacrificed when he caught on to the dullest Rockefeller fascist link,
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and that's why he had to be discredited before the
Congress and laughed at and removed from Congress, and then
suffered a death under a strange circumstances.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And I do have one.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Book on the death of Joe McCarthy written by Midford Evans,
Max Eastman and Walder Littman worked with the Buckley faction.
They helped split set up the split against Leon Trotsky.
They planned books saying that Lennon left a will against Trotsky,
and then when Trotsky was murdered, they published literature against
(28:36):
Trotsky and linked him to the Russians that were.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
In power at the time.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
They helped the split between Trotsky and Stalin, which already
did exist, and then played an instrumental part, according to
this document, in killing Leon Trotsky. And of course I
think I mentioned before on Dialog Conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That I had information several years.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Ago, at least five or six years ago, that George
de Morenschild and Colonel Lawrence Orloff, two men that had
visited with Marina Oswald in June of sixty two, were
responsible for the killing of Trotsky.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And if George Warnshell worked.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
For William Buckley, and if this can of worms does
link together to promote the Cold War and instigate cover
stories for factual cases that didn't happen the way that
these media sources presented, such as the National Review and
the Historic Societies, we can see a whole link of
(29:29):
various conspiracies that are interrelated and manipulated by these powers,
using people all kinds of people, not only the left
but the right, and setting up in a tragic circumstance
Joe McCarthy. You may not feel sorry for him for
what he did, but he may have been induced or
persuaded or told these were the circumstances, and he was
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only the puppet of the people like Rockefeller and the Buckleys.
And as you study the history and you look back,
it's very possible that this was happening. Well, I may
do a little bit more on the Buckley next week
and take some more news of the House Select Committee
in Washington. Some of the new documents are coming up
with because people are asking me about those. Read your papers,
they're interesting these days. There's a lot more coming out,
(30:13):
And keep your ears open and I'll see you next
week on Dialogue Conspiracy.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
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