#325 06.02.78 Mae Brussell

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The May Brussel and Carmel, California no longer dialogue conspiracy,
which I'm used to stating. But as we said before,
this becomes now a World Watcher and this is side
one of World Watchers International. Because these tapes do go
out to other countries. The tapes will be numbered each side.

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This will be number three to four June the second
nineteen six, nineteen seventy eight, and the other side will
be number three two five. The reason is that I
will list a subject section that goes out in my
mail to people who want to subscribe to shows or
past shows, and they can select a half hour of

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one tape or a half hour of another. They may
not want the subject matter that is on both sides.
Just as I've sold them out in the past, We've
sent them out and they can select later if they
wanted to look at the subjects, if it's on the
John Kennedy Says, or mind control or the Mormon Church.
Some people like to select the subjects, and once they

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get into it, most of them fill in and order
the back subjects. But some people have a particular thing
that they're interested in and can't afford all of the tapes.
And so I'm going to have the regular mailing list
for those people, and that's why each side of the
same tape will be numbered with a different number, but
will go to you once a week, those of you
who subscribe. I got a lot of reaction to my

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going off of KLRB in the format that I had,
and I really miss it already. I know I'll miss it,
but I do think that an hour week of information
going to you will be more valuable, and I think
that people who get the tapes will be able to
use them to better advantage, to play them over and
people over to listen and talk about it, to take notes.

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A half hour goes very fast on the air, and
the response I get from the people who are taking
these tapes is so tremendous that I just would rather
broaden out and reach those people by way of the tape.
The sets I have on the list of bibliographies here enclosed.
Each week you'll get a list. Is an article in
The Inquiry magazine by Ted Salk. It's an article claiming

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that the reason Richard Helms was not prosecuted by Jimmy
Carter for his perjury in the Itt case is that
he would reveal the still secret CIA tais to the
large banks of the world. Now, Harry Truman was instrumental
in calling off the investigation of Nazi money in the

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Swiss bank accounts, and as I mentioned before on other tapes,
the project to counterfeit millions of dollars of English and
American money just prior to the end of World War
Two under the Operation Bernhardt could be the key to
the funding of the Builderberger organization, and mister Truman, as

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the Haberdasher, was not quite an innocent bystander in form
the National Security Council or stopping the investigation of the
Nazi money. And this is one of the things that
Richard helps can continue to control because he was instrumental
immediately after World War Two in the organization that became

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known as the CIA and the sources of their money.
I received I got this week the Memoirs of Richard Nixon.
I was looking forward to it because of the excerpts
I saw it in the newspaper. And I don't want
you to put it down lightly as something funny. Richard
Nixon never was funny. And the problem is that Richard
Nixon was always misunderstood for what he really was. His

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books are marvelous. His sixth Crisis is wonderful, and I
do want to share with you on these tapes just
a few pages time to time of Richard Nixon's book.
I guess I could just open any page and find
something interesting and historically valuable about it. But right from
the beginning he starts with his running for Congress in

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nineteen sixty six, and on page thirty three and thirty four,
as I have in your bibliography, there he tells about
his letter from Herman Perry, the manager of the Bank
of America who wrote in Whittier, who wrote him a
letter and said, dear Dick, do you want to run
on the Republican ticket? Airmail media reply mister H. L. Perry.

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He's very upfront about this letter, and the date is
important because Richard Nixon was taken to California to see
mister Perry, and then he was taken to the bungalow
of Howard Hughes and they decided, yes, this is our man.
He had already written to the Office's Law Offices of
Alan Dulles and asked to be an intelligence work. When

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he was in the Navy, he had written to the
FBI and said he would like to be in the FBI.
The fact that he didn't get response from them doesn't
mean he wasn't hired. People think, well, he didn't get
an answer. His answer probably came in the form of
Herman Perry and Howard Hughes, who then contacted him and
he was brought to California to run against Jerry Voorhees.

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This is important statement that he makes about being approached
by Herman Perry. And then again I have the page
numbers for you to look up in the book Wanted
Search for the Nazis. How the same mister Perry was
instrumental in bringing war criminal Nikolai and Meloxi to Richard

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Nixon's office, and then the Loxy of the Odessa went
down to Argentine. We'll be doing constant references to the
Argentine Nixon connections. I think they're very important. So that
little bit of the book, I think you'll enjoy reading
and looking up and then get the book from the
library their paperback Wanted Search for the Nazis, and we'll

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put those pieces of Nixon together. Also in Richard Nixon's
book is a very visual picture exactly as Charlie Chaplin
it in the Great Dictator, and exactly as I had
kicked the way the world leaders sit at the Council
of Foreign Relations in the Builderberger meetings and chop up
the world. On page forty three, Richard Nixon says, Pat

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and I went to Washington and saw the inside of
the White House for the first time February eighteenth, nineteen
forty seven. We went to a reception mister Truman. President
Truman made us feel welcome and relaxed as we shook
hands with him. We sat around a desk and he
spoke earnestly about rehabilitating Europe, and he emphasized his concern

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that peaceful German production should be encouraged. Of course, this
is the same Truman in nineteen forty seven that said,
don't go into the Nazi money in the Swiss banks.
And of course they encouraged German production. He doesn't say
in this book that included the ig Farvins and the
Krup ammunition makers, but it did. Richard Nixon said. He

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led us over to a big globe where he pointed
to Manchuria, and he remarked how rich it was in
oil and mineral deposits, and he said the Soviets had
devastated that region, but that Manchuria would be recovering and
become a productive area for the world. Now, as I say,
that's the way Charlie Chaplin held the globe and is

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a great dictator. And they looked over and I can
see Truman after the war. This is nineteen forty seven,
and we had mister Smathers put in Florida by the
same people, and Gerald Ford from Michigan and Richard Nixon
from California. That class of forty six, it was elected,
and we have to do more research. All of you
can help me to look up the history of members

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of Congress that were elected in nineteen forty six. You
can go into the biographies of the men that are
still there today for those that passed away recently, and
look up how many came in that class of forty six.
Because then in nineteen forty seven President Truman, with the
help of Nazi war criminals in the OSS and C officials,

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formed what became is the National Security Council, and then
foreigners like Henry Kissinger and mister Brashinsky come in and
run our country that is no longer run by Americans,
and they could look at the globe and smack their
lips and decide how it would be divided up. That
was the importance of bringing the German space scientists to

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this country. That's written up very carefully in the book
Project paper Clip. Is that the satellites tell you where
the water is, where the oils are, where the oil is,
where the minerals are, where the vegetation is, where the
population is, and then you control it by If you
see the oil, then you can go down after it.
You can displace people who have property and buy it

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from them, and then dig your oil up. You know
which countries have deposits of oils, and then you re
range the population according to the oil picture. The war
was over May eighth, nineteen forty five in Germany, and
in August I, teen forty five, the Americans dropped bombs
in Hiroshima, Japan, in order to end the war quickly.

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And the reason they used those atomic bombs they were
made by mister Oppenheimer and Adolf Hitler. Oppenheimer describes in
like a basket of pineapples. The reason they would dropped
was to stop Russia from going into those oil deposits
and in the Asia any further in the war, so
Russia would have no chance to go east. They had
already gone west and get the war over with. So

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the United States didn't manufacture the atomic bombs. They took
those bombs. As a matter of fact, there'll be a
movie made someday on that. I know the producer who
had the documents from the National Archives from Washington, and
there are or were tape recordings of mister Oppenheimer talking
about those bombs, that they were Hitler's bombs that were
used to end the war. And get those satellite scientists

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over here quickly and get the satellites launched just as
one is going up this week to chose the oceans
and keep of all the oceans. So President Truman sat
and looked at his little globe. But it took Richard
Nixon to write it up in such a simple descriptive
manner that I think you all can understand. The book

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that has the information about the Swiss bank connection is
by Leslie Walker. It's called the Swiss Bank Connection and
has to do with the Nazi money in the Swiss banks.
I put on the list that's enclosed for you besides
the Richard Heilms covering up the Swiss banks is information

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on a newsletter by Jim Horowitz. It's been going out
for a wrong long time. I was only at the
home of mister Horowitz once Don Freed was arranging a
conspiracy conference in Los Angeles. I don't personally understand mister Horowitz.
He worked with Mark Lane and Don Freed, and I
felt that they've been much too quiet on a lot

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of information that should have gotten out and suppressed information
I had when I went down to that cor But
anything that we get out is better than nothing, and
I think you should turn on to all of the
pieces of the puzzle that are valuable, just like I
would say, read marg Lane's rush to judgment or Sylvia
Marr's successory after the fact, the fact that these researchers

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suppress more information and we have to ask ourselves why
or if stone that I've been criticized for criticizing the
fact that they sit on bombshells and let the world
literally fall apart is another subject for investigation. But if
any information they get out is factual, use it. And
I think if you have the money and inclination or

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can share it with friends expense. Get Jim Horowitz's newsletter,
and I here the issue number. He has Volume five,
number six on Evil Younger Superspy Part two. And on
the other side of this sheet, I have his address
that I forgot to put on the one side. Now,
Evill Younger is running for governor of this state. The

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primaries will be this week against Ed Davis. One of
them will get a national position. That's why they're running
against each other to get national prominence. In the primaries,
Jim Horowitz talks about Evil Younger as being the czar
of a California spy network called Organized Crime Collectors School OCCS,

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which is actually an anti terrorist red squad group that
was formed. And as I said in my article, the
SLA is the CIA that they're no longer chasing communists.
Our country is doing trade with Russia and Red China.
They're not looking for communists, They're looking for terrorists. And
terrorists will be the chance to open our mail, wire tap,

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break into newspaper offices, now survey people do anything they want.
The word is terrorism. Evely Younger is the charge in
charge of the SPA Empire, and it's under the guise
of like Howard user Itt. There's a private firm in
southern California called the Anna Kappa Sciences Incorporated Anacapa Sciences

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Sciences Incorporated, which is described as a mystery firm hired
for politically motivated paramilitary campaigns to get dissidents. Maybe you
read this week about Zaire that General Motors was sending
in troops the private corporations. The private companies work with
the defense agencies and the CIA, so we don't have

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to declare war and the FBI doesn't have to do
half of its underground work. Mister Webster said there were
eighty informers right now on the terrorist work. But then
these private corporations get the money from the government so
that the FBI can look at you and say, I
only have eighty agents on this subject. But Anna Kapita
is Its cover is organized crime. Its purpose is to

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set up national This is like the Gestapo national training schools.
They will work with local police officers. Adolf Hitler worked
with Interpal. He had the best police system and it
was not only national, but it went to Vienna and
Poland and Hungary and Romania became international. The SWAT teams

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are formed under this and they want more swap teams
for urban counter insurgency and militarization of police forces. The
headquarters are Los Angeles, California, with Darryl Gates of the
Los Angeles Police Department who was under ed Davis. San
Francisco where we have mister Gaines, Charlie Gaines, who ran

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the FBI counterintelligence program in Oakland against the Black Panthers
and should never have been made chief of police in
San Francisco and Oakland. Those are the three centers. So
Darryl Gates and Charlie Gaines have been part of this
military FBI counterintelligence team through the whole Operation Chaos Tom
Charles Houston plan. The things that I wrote in my

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article the SLA is the cid Anna Kappa Company is
linked to the Central Intelligence Agency. It shares with them
their anti terrorist money. Their project director is Jack Kenney
of Air Force Intelligence and a top secret National Security
Agency executive, and also officers from the Office of Navy

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Intelligence Defense Intelligence Agency using reciprocal relationships with the CIA.
Evily Junger's influence reaches through the oc CS Organized Crime
Collector's School. Organized Crime Collectors School are black, unemployed Chicano

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unemployed no jobs for them, stealing to get food, become criminals.
This is your terrorists. There's going to be unemployment and
riots in this country. There are no terrorists, really, there's
going to be self defense. That's the reason the panther started.
But Younger works with this group, this Organized Crime Collectors School,

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that's what he calls it. And he's educating these people
into this. And he also works not only with Anna Kappa,
which is this mystery group in California, but they work
in Washington's seat with a group called the PAA Psychological
Assessment Associates PAA, which is a deep cover of the

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CIA proprietaries and houses that work with behavior modification and
drug experiments. You see how you get a Donald de
Friese working in Vagaville under the Defense mind control program
with Colston Westbrook forming an SLA the excuse to burn
those people in Los Angeles, those six to inaugurate the

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first swat team public television burning of what they called
terrorists using the cords. DA Browning, who prosecuted that case,
who still hasn't prosecuted Emily and William Harris four years
now for kidnapping Patty Hurst is running for attorney General
of the state of California, while the attorney general is
running for governor. They're linked to the mind control programs,

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and one of Younger's liaisons in Washington for their Psychological
Assessment Associates, works under the cover works with John Gettinger.
John W. Gettinger an operator working under the cover of
the Human Ecology Fund known as a CIA conduit. Now
I've told many listeners on KLRB. I don't remember which

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show it was on, because they're not that carefully put
in table contents. They should be. Someday I should have
somebody listening to them and typing them up. I told
you four years ago. Three years ago, a man went
to England and told me to get out of the country.
At that time, he told me about the radio towers
used in San Francisco for mind control, that they can

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take whole cities and subdue them and break meditation. And
he told me that ecology and energy crisis would be
the excuse for eliminating sixty three million Americans. According to
Iran's study, human Ecology means to cling up the Earth.
Charles Lindberg was into ecology. Charles Lindberg was moving into

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Germany the day that Hitler went into Poland and thought
maybe it would be bad for the American image and
just stayed over in England. Ecology means, as Hitler said,
by losing World War Two, we get the mongrelization of races,
and we lose years, eons of time, because then black
Gis went into Germany and married white German women and

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so forth. When the war was lost, we were behind
in the race. And Hitler's ecology program, of course, was
the pure white Aryan race. And the Nazis will work
with the Arabs and the Asians to a degree, or
the South Africans until they have total control and eventually
through sterilization and mass programs of germs and genocide white people,

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such in South Africa, which was an experiment after World
War Two where a handful of whites could handle a
bunch of blacks and it works. People may object to
Steve Bilko being killed, thirty three other men were killed
in those prisons just this last year. There will be
no leaders, a parathoid will remain. It's a test case

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and it works, and there's no reason why these people
can't continue their genocidal policy. And that is what is
the human Ecology Fund. This two part article on Evill
Younger is so concise that I have given you the
address of mister Horowoodz and I think they should get
his newsletter and you should get his back copies, because

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it's a very important story about Everly Younger's spy empire.
Because Evily Younger has been an important man all along,
ever since his early training in the military, and he
still linked a general in the military reserves. From mister
Horwit's get that newsletter. I also have here a reference

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to a Life magazine which I think would be interesting
for those of you to look up. It's easy to
get in the library. It's March twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one,
and it was an article about the Army, Navy domestic intelligence.
Now I'd been doing research since November twenty fourth, nineteen
sixty three, and when I went to see Jim Garrison

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in New Orleans at the time that I came home
and then my son had been given that asset, and
I caught onto the dreadly, deadly, dreaded mind controlled techniques
that the US government had. And when I came home
from New Orleans and sixty seven, that was in September.
In November, that man named Charles Wynn and moved right

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down below my house and next door to my friend
Louise James. And those of you that have dialogued conspiracy
have listened to the tape that I've had. Others of
you would have to order it about the trial with
Charles way In, Paul Kraz and Louise James and myself
the trial of Winning versus Rolling Stones that's coming up
in September in San Francisco. Now, I was watching the government.

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That's why I'm changing the title now to world watchers.
It's time that you and I not only have a
dialogue I call it dialogue conspiracy between the two of us,
but we have a watching institution, whether it's eight people
in your home or four or two or whatever. We
have to become world watchers, and you have to get
more aware as I was along of what was going on,

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so that I saved in nineteen seventy one. Maybe you
missed it. Hundreds of articles that came out at the
time that sam Urvans Committee caught on that the Army, Navy,
Intelligence and all forms of the FBI, the CIA were
surveying American citizens in nineteen seventy one. When Watergate broke

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in nineteen seventy two, a lot of people were surprised
when I wrote the article why was Martha Mitchell and napped?
The American assassins? And how Nixon came to power? How
I could have so much information which within three weeks
of the arrest to write an article like that. The
answer is it wasn't psychic, and the article didn't come easy,

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but it came fairly easy to write within that time
period because I had been a world watcher for a
long time, and I came across a batch of articles
to help the lawyers and Paul Krasner in this case
that were in my file that I thought it might
be interesting to you. And if you go to your
newspapers in your libraries in town on the microfilm of

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nineteen seventy one, this whole era in March, February, March
and April and read about Army surveyance. First they said
they were surveying seven thousand people. Then it was fourteen
thousand people, then it was twenty five million people. That
was a quarter of the American population that was under
surveyance in nineteen seventy one, but a typical example of servants.

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A page of about sam Irvan and his investigation Live magazine,
March twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one, and they have a
column there of excuses for the Army and Navy to
do domestic surveyance. And among these articles, I say, it's
ad twenty five million Americans under savants. Now Here were
some of the people that fit a profile that we

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should be fault And keep in mind that I was
under surveillance from nineteen sixty six on it. This was
nineteen seventy one, and this is found in Life magazine quotes.
Anybody who went to the funeral of Martin Luther King
should be of a profile under survance. Anybody who was
in the presence of Whitney Young. Whitney Young was a

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black civil rights leader that died swimming over in Africa,
and they hushed up his death, and just recently they
came out and said they had underwater guns. He died
of a discrepancy of diagnosis visiting Africa. Anyone who is
in the presence of Whitney Young would be under surveillance.
So therefore getting rid of a black leader fits into

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what I said with the King alphin pray. Persons who
changed their job or residence four times in the past
ten years. In other words, if you sat on a
porch in Iowa or Kansas, or in your apartment in
New York, and you weren't curious, and you didn't leave,
and you didn't walk out of the office, and you

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wanted to see what was going on in this country.
A hippie that left home, somebody resisting the draft, curious
about what they were doing in other states, organizations and
other states crossing lines. They had to go to Chicago
for the conventions. People getting it together and questioning and
dropping out. People who changed their jobs or residents four

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times in ten years were to be under surveillance. People
who changed their hair in the past two years or
had sideburns. Any person who publicly objected to Richard Nixon's
remarks at the time the Charles Manson trial that Charles
Manson was guilty and why did they worry about Charles
mann Manson? Or if you talk to an anti war

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radical youth during nineteen seventy and I can vote a
rally in Washingt d c. Get Life magazine. I've given
you the reference here March twenty sixth, nineteen seventy one,
and that's an example of what was happening around is
at that time. That fits into now. You're listening to
me now, so take what I say now and project

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the future, because I can tell you the future in
seventy one. And you can look up some of these articles.
There's a magazine called Seven Days which has a long
article on black bags in the inside the FBI. I've
given the date here, so you can get it from
your libraries or write to the magazine and order copies.

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I think that you should know that this is out.
I don't have to detail past and present jobs of FBI.
You can get the sources from this issue. I'm reading
a book now, Jacques Cughes. I've given the bibliography here.
It's called The Men Who Betrayed France. It was put
out by Andre Simone, the author, in nineteen forty. It's

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called Jacques cu'es. It isn't about Amil Zola. It's about
two hundred people in France who, long before World War Two,
in the thirties and actually probably in the twenties, decided
that they would go along with this notzification of the world.
That the important thing was to stop what they feared communism,

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specifically either ruling out the church's excuse for existence and
the formal church, as the Russians had done, or to
rule out the royalty that Hitler wanted to put it
back at the power the royal families in Europe had
promised to do, or to divide the land, to break
up the feudal land holdings of a handful of people.

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And if you read an article, it was in the
front page of the chronicle this last Sunday on Zayir.
They said, Mobile Oil has these investments, IBM has this investment,
ITT has this investment, and they listed the millions of
dollars of money that was in zay Are. And this
tells you why we're in war is no longer important.

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What it means to send people to die, or to
kill those black people or whatever. If the Americans have
the investment for the plutonium or the minerals or the copper,
we go there. And therefore they now print on the
front page what the investment is, so the stockholder knows
why he's in zay Air. And this book goes back
to the forties, and it's an important book. Get it

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if it's still in your library. If it's not, find
it in old bookstores. But now you have a print
out and you know where to refer to get that book.
Because that's the way this country is being given away.
This has been going on to the Russian Revolution, when
Hitler and the British, the American, the Italian put Franco
into power and to push to collect and save their holdings,

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tighten them up. Look at the globe, take a satellite
to tell us where it's at, and fight for it.
And people no longer important. That was the importance of network,
the movie network, when the radio TV man has brought it,
when he is told you're no longer important.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Countries are not important.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Corporations are important. There's now chemical, there's standard oil, there's
itt there's general motors. We don't think of countries or boundaries.
And you have to forget thinking about that and being
concerned about that. And Jacques Cues is that kind of
a book. It's a very good book about Daladier and

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Patan and the Frenchman who actually took the peasants and
the innocent people and completely ignored them. One of the
questions I got on a talk show that I did
with Victor Bach last week at kail RB. We did
an hour last week just talking about my going off
the air, people saying do you believe that people in
this country are capable of genocide? I know for sure

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they're capable of it. About twenty thirty million a year
die of starvation and chemical deaths and cancers that could
probably be traced to be purposeful. And I know they're
capable of it, and they'll do it, and they're doing it,
and we have to be always alert. Read Jack Q
seven Days Life magazines, between the lines of Inquiry magazine,

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and we'll be doing a more extensive bibliography on this
program than I did before, so that you don't have
to write back to me. You people have been writing
and obtaining the information in literature, which is really great
and one of the reasons that I'm going ont of
the private tapes in this form of communication. But if
you want more information to plug in, I'll keep giving

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you the sources so that you don't have to write
back for it. It will save time and you can
begin to get some of the references if you're interested,
and if they're still available in the libraries, and if
the libraries aren't closed after Jarvis Gan. The Jarvis Gan,
of course, is the notorious proposition thirteen. It's so controversial

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that we can talk a little bit further about on
the other side the meaning of those taxes. For those
of you that just have this side. This is May
Brussel and Carmel, California. It is June the first, nineteen
seventy eight, and I will continue for the others for
this week's news on the other side of this tape.

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Now you have your homework and you can start doing
your reading. Look up some of this material in the library,
and find some of these old books like Jacques Cues.
And if you have some that you think I don't
have used bookstores or rummy sales or garage sales, I'd
appreciate them. If you buy them, I'll pay you for it.
And these old books are very valuable, and I would

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appreciate them if you can find some for me sometimes.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
This is May Brussel and Carmel, California, continuing number three
two five. The t s backside of this tape is
three two five and it is recorded due the first,
nineteen seventy eight in Carmel, California, continuing into what I
want to call the world Watchers International to see what

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is going on in the world and share this information
with you. When I went off the air formerly off
of KLRB with the commitment of being on public broadcasting
or KAZAPP or the other colleges that received as of
a Humboldt or different radio stations and decide to go
to this format of the uh cassette newsletter, I received

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a lot of telephone calls from people that are interested
in organizing and meeting and other people that want to
continue to help me with the research, and I will
keep you informed on the tapes of various things of
course that I'm publishing and doing. I've been teaching some
courses at Lutheran College at College to credit class on
the conspiracy. It may be doing a complete series in

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the fall. If I do, maybe we can tape record
those sessions so that you could get those tapes if
you want them, and it would be as if you
were attending the class and send you bibliography of the
courses as they continue. I will be active, more active
than I was before, and I'm certainly receiving a lot
of information every day coming in. I'm just flooded with it.

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But I hope this new format works out and that
you're satisfied with it, and that proof of your satisfaction
will be a intensity or an activity on your part
to get some of this information distributed among the people
that you know and the public officials and candidates that
are running for office and calling talk shows and writing

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letters to the editor. When I went to cal rb
this last week to pick up mail and messages, there
was a package for me there left by a man.
He didn't have a return address on it, and his
name was just scribbled, and it was a large yellow
envelope and they were wire service sheets, and he said,
dear missus Brussel, I'm delivering this in hopes that you'll

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be able to use it. It contains everything that went
over the wire services of the military and civilian at
the time that John F. Kennedy was killed. It's two
days prior to his death, the United Press, international stories,
and for some time after his death. It was collected
by my father when he was in the military as

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a crypto officer and was inherited by me. I found
it after he died. I hope you can use it.
Love and hope and a name there which is just scribbled.
But she obviously didn't want me to contact or thank
him get in touch with them on the matter. This
is very important research. It's valuable to read it. I

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just read the first page and UPI story. As soon
as John Kennedy was killed. It stated John Kennedy was
assassinated by three bullets. Period. Now that is very interesting
because there had not been an autopsy on the body.
There had been no indication of how many shots came out.
It's true that people on the street heard three shots,

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but certainly by nineteen sixty three the military was familiar
with silencers. It Senator Church's Committee information came out about
the umbrella being used as a weapon during this time period.
Even before the sixties, they were developing those. And the
car that John Kennedy was driving, and of course was
never photographed or examined from a standpoint of a murder

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taking place to see if there were bullets in the
car or on the floor of the car, or in
the seat, or of the medal from the bullets that
came in there matched the medal of the bullets in
the body. The car was immediately destroyed John Kennedy's body
was taken out of Parkland Hospital against the laws of
the police department to do the autopsy there. Taken to

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Bethesda Hospital in Maryland, where are Specter managed to get
all the witnesses to fit their evidence and testimony that
it was three bullets the original story that the UPI
carried at that moment. Doctor Hume in the Navy had
to earn his original papers or he did them of
his autopsy papers. He later fit all of his findings

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into the framework that it was three bullets and nothing else.
The doctors of John Conley disagreed with this. They talked
about the impossibility of the direction of the bullets in
John Connolly's wrist and thigh. John Connolly's clothing was destroyed
and dry clean purposely. Kennedy's. John Kennedy's clothing was locked
up and has never really the fiber tests have never

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really been put to show where there were entry exit rooms.
The bloody coat of John Kennedy's is in the National Archives,
but I've never heard of anybody wanting to examine the
holes for the directions. Even the autopsy pictures at the
table when the body was there were never developed so
you see that the decision was made. When Linda Johnson

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was on Air Force one going back to Washington, he
was told Lee Harvey Oswald did it alone. The UPI said,
three bullets did it. The Warrant Commission was a total
fraud and had to fit all of the testimony and
evidence of this story. I appreciate what he left off,
and of course I will try to get them typed

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up and be able to use this and share this
information with you. On Dialogue Conspiracy number three hundred and
twenty one, May fourteenth, nineteen seventy eight, I did a
program about kingmar Bergman movie The Serpent Egg, and I
gave reasons for my going off KLRB, and partly it

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was because so many things were happening to people around me.
They're still happening, and I am concerned they're happening to
people that are contacting me. But for personal reasons that
are on that tape, I decided to go off. And
one of the reasons I mentioned was the incidences happening
around me and my family. I mentioned Emmitt Grogan, the

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man a ran the Diggers in San Francisco at the
height of the hippie movement, and how he was at
a particular agent's home where my son was just before
I believe that my son was poisoned, and Emma Grogan
was there, and Marvin got very upset with Emmon Grogan
there because you remember what happened to the hippies and
the diggers in San Francisco. So my son had left

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the place and Emma Grogan went on and six weeks later,
so he was found dead at the end of the
subway in New York City. Now I know Paul Krasner
came up to San Francisco and there was a wake
and a big party celebrating or can you use the
word celebrating. So called friends of Emmitt Grogan got together

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and had a wake because of his death, and the
Berkeley bar wrote up about the wake, and there were
several other articles about Emmitt Grogan. But I didn't know
until Yester. I never had knowledge that Emmittgrogan had authored
a book called The Final Score in nineteen seventy six
put out by Ballentine Press, on the plutonium heist. There

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are a lot of books out on the plutonium nuclear
bomb connection, and you see here my list of bibliographies
that I'm in closing now with Dialogue Conspiracy that Tom
Davis and AFTOS under the name of Research carries these books.
And he has a list of books on the plutonium
nuclear bond connections, Brothers in Blood, the International Terrorist Network,

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Hidden Terrors, and the Operation Plumbbad his books coming out
about Karen Silkwood's death. But here is a book on
that list by Emmitt Grogan on the plutonium heist. And
we know that mister Blair was writing a book on
the oil conspiracy. In fact he had completed it, and
just when it was going to print and about to

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get out, mister Blair was dead and he couldn't go
around and push that book. That book got He couldn't
expose the oil conspiracy. There's certain people like Garson Canaan
and Ruth Gordon that got on talk shows over and
over again. Not that they're not good people, but there's
certain people that just seem to be allowed to live
to talk about their books. But John Blair, when he

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wrote in nineteen seventy six The Control of Oil, also
put out by Pantheon Press, he was dead. His book
never did get out in the same way that this
book can't get out. By m mcgrogan. At least I
keep up with books I didn't know without. And the
obituaries had no mention or connections of any investigation in

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a plutonium missing or the plutonium scene with the possibility
that that's why he died, just like mister Blair's death
was never investigated so possibily that it killed all promotion
of his book. There is a movie coming out I
mentioned just quickly on my last program, next to last,
called Capricorn One. It's advertised now it will be here

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playing in the major cities starting the next book week,
and the advertising goes. Would you be shocked to find
out that the greatest moment of our recent history may
not have happened at all? And of course, if you
have dialogue Conspiracy where I talk about the Moonshot, that
was number two hundred and eighty seven September nineteenth October

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nineteen nineteen seventy seven, we never went to the moon.
And again you can order that book that I used
as a basis of that particular show, even though there
are two new books out since then, and I've listened
them for you. Also, mister Casey refers to that as
America's thirty billion dollars swindle. We never went to the Moon.
You can buy that book and read it. It's very

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good book and it has a lot of points from
the standpoint of a scientist. I'm not a scientist. Mister
Casing is, and that's why he happened to write the book.
There is an article in the Oregonian Friday, March seventeenth,
nineteen seventy, if you can get that paper. It comes
from Portland, Oregon, that the Soviet Union has brought back

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rocks from the Moon, the Lunar twenty four mission, and
they're not explainable. Their composition never before found on the Moon.
They said they've found we've never found a high iron,
low titanium, low traced element composition. I might have mentioned
that to you before. I don't remember, but it's interesting
if they were landing at the same place to come

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back with different kinds of minerals. And we will watch
I think the movie will do worth thing. I'll see it,
of course, and see how much information it gives out
on the Moonshot. Now, the propaganda machine never ends in
the United States, and in order to be aware of
what's going on, you have to have sources of information,

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direct sources and second sources that and I like to
compare constantly documents I have to printed material. A lot
of peop people say what are your sources of information?
And those of you that know know that there's a
wide range of them. But I went into Long's drug
store this week and found a book which has been
out of print for quite a few years, six or

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seven years. And I know I assigned it as a
textbook when rayper breathing on I gave the course in
Monterey Peninsul College on conspiracies. And it was no longer
in print. And the name of the book is the
Warren Report. Even though it was the most extensive book
investigation the government had ever done, they weren't proud enough
to continue this book, to put all of the researchers

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down and at rest once and for all by referring
to their book. So the Warren Report went out of print.
The twenty six volumes of exhibits and testimony upon which
the report was based was limited, I think eight thousand
copies right from the start, even though there might be
a market for them today if the government printed them.
But the Warren Report went out of print so now

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it's nineteen seventy eight, and at Long's drug Store, which
is a big chain like the thrifties, and goodness knows
where else they sell, you're lucky you can buy the
Warren Report. And I took it over to Carmel High
School where I gave a class last week to show
them what you could buy now. In the first place,
it's a bargain. They have a bargain table where it

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says five ninety five reduced to a dollar ninety nine.
And Tom Davis, who has books out of research and Aptos,
told me that these books were being sold at sixty
cents to the book seller. So you can see for
sixty cents how nice it is to flood the country
at a time of controversy into the assassination of John

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Kennedy and give people this Warren Report. But this book
is not a first source of information, because the very
first source of information for the researchers was published by
the Government Printing Office or by There were two other
paperbacked volumes that came out, but they were identical in essence.

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And then there there was Double Day in Company, a
private book publisher, which published the Warren Report with an
introduction by the notorious Louis Neiser. Now, the thing about
this Warren Report is that it's published by the Associated Press,
which is an acknowledged, admitted conduit of a central intelligence
agency that has also been suspect in the assassinations. It

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has no address inside of where you would order another one.
It just has printed in the USA and has a
printing company. It's got no address and it has no date.
It's just put out for a very cheap price, for
a dollar ninety nine for you to read the Warren Report.
And then when you open the Warren Report and you

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turn to the section after the first investigative work is
done and they go into the exhibits, there is no Incidentally,
there's no table of contents. No person can do research
with this new book. There's no person in the United
States of a second generation, because this is fourteen years later,
going fifteen years later, that can use this book for

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any investigative work. It has to be pure propaganda. There's
no table contents in the book at all. And when
they get to Appendix five, and this is important of
this new chief version, Appendix five has a list of
witnesses before the Warren Commission they state, the following is

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a list of five hundred and two fifty two witnesses
whose testimony was presented to the Warren Commission. This is
Appendix five of the new book, and Appendix five of
the original Warren Report. Even the one put out by
Doubleday has on page four or eighty three a list
of witnesses, and they say the following is a list
of five hundred and fifty two witnesses whose testimony was

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presented to the Warren Commission. But the difference between the
Warren Report, the original Warren Report that came out in
nineteen sixty four, and the Warren Report that comes out
in nineteen seventy eight is that one has the list
of the volume number and the page number where you
can find that testimony. In other words, there's been a

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lot of controversy about Sheriff Craig who saw Lee Harvey
Oswald leave from the front of the book depository, and
there was a witness, Warnell, who saw on leave from
the back of the depository. So you look up Craig
in the original Warren Report and it says volume six,
page two sixty. But in this book there is no

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page number or volume number.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
In other words, the Warren Report, the first original source
of information in the section five Appendix five has the
volume number and page number.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Of every witness. So if you're studying this case and
you hear about a person like Lydia Dimitri, you can
look up Volume nine, page sixty because she was one
of the most important witnesses before the Warren Commission. You
can look her up and get her testimony at a
library in the original sources of there, or Georgia je
de Warrenschild page at Volume nine, page one sixty six

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or page two eight five. But in the new cheapy version,
they just have the names and they don't tell you
about them, so that all you know is that Sheriff
Craig is a sheriff. You don't know what he said
to Lee Harvey Oswald in the offices of Captain Fritz
after the assassination. He just a name among five hundred

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and fifty two people. All it says is Roger Craig,
witness at assassination scene. But if he saw Lee Rvy
Oswald get into the car of Michael and Ruth Payne
and he says, don't get them involved, because then everybody
will know who I am, Sheriff Craig is an important witness,
and therefore you can't find any information. Then you turn

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to the back of the original source Warren Report. The
entire Warren Report was written with footnotes, and no matter
how bad it was, you have chapter one or chapter two.
The first footnote in there is four H one that
means a volume four of the hearings on page one

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regarding Governor John Connolly, or you can find seven H
four four one the testimony of Kenneth O'Donnell. And the
original Warren Report goes from page eight seventeen back to
page eight seven nine. So that's sixty two pages of
footnotes with volume number and page number, and the cheapy

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version leaves all of that out. They don't leave it
for you. And then the Warren Report, the original Waren
Report then has an index of names, and this has
absolutely no index of names. So that the Associated Press,
a conduit of known conduit of the Central Intelligence Agency,

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has come out with a cheapy book that people could
hardly not miss and can't afford if they want it,
and they're wholesaling them at sixty cents a book and
calling it the Warren Report. The cover up goes on
and on, and it's insidious and should be exposed, and
people should be writing letters to the Associated Press, to

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the Congressman, to wherever you take this tape, to the
President of United States and say this is a free enterprise,
this is propaganda. You're covering up a controversial issue. There's
one hundred and seventy books critical of the Warren Report,
and news people can get on and write editorials and
lambased does or call us crazy or koops if we

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investigate and we can't turn you onto the sources because
the original source of the Warren Report isn't available. And
this cheapy version tells people a story that the government
wanted and planted in their minds in nineteen sixty three
and nineteen sixty four, and in nineteen seventy eight. They're
selling them out for sixty cents to be picked up

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for a couple of dollars and making it look like
it was a six dollar book. World Watchers International has
people listening and subscribing to the tapes in the Yukon
or An Island, or France and England. A very good researcher,
Harry Irwin, has been doing work in Belfast for many
many years, and he has a little newsletter. It's edited

(50:22):
and published. If you want to write to Harry Irwin
Ravens Dean Crescent, raven Hill, Belfast, it would be nice
to write and subscribe to his newsletter. And I will
be talking all the time about the newsletters of Penn
Jones and Sherman Skolnik in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
His work.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
But Ted Gondalfo has written a brief article for the
newsletter that you can send for from Harry Irwin in Belfast,
and Ted has summarized the relationship of the Chief Counsel
of the House elect Committee on Assassinations, ge Robert Blakey
to the FBI and the CIA, and his relationship to

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Louis Niser, who wrote the introduction to the Warren Report,
which I have right here, and also Demo Dalits of
organized crime. Gandalpho wrote in quotes, the chief Counsel of
the houselet Committee on Assassinations, g Robert blake is a
legal hitman for organized crime. He has permitted the committee

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in Washington to be captured by the FBI and the CIA,
and quotes I don't happen to agree with Ted Gondolfo
that mister Blakey allowed the committee in there to be captured.
I believe that the committee to investigate these assassinations was
set up originally by members of the CIA, the Defense

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Intelligence Agency, and the FBI, and that the succession from
Henry Gonzalez, through Mark Lane and Don fried into encouraging
arrest Rhodes and these people to sign petitions to get
a committee going and then handing it over to Richard Sprague,
who was a law partner in the District Attorney's office
of Arlen Inspector, the same attorney that fit all the

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evidence into the three bullet story. He worked with him
for ten years. And then mister Sprague, through newsleaks in
the New York Times, through CIA known CIA contacts in
Washington Star New York Times, caused mister Sprague to have
an altercation with Henry Gonzalez and then in comes mister Blakey.

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But that succession from Henry Gonzalez to mister Sprague to
mister Blakee was called out by me step by step.
He was never thought that the time to open the
investigation was when people like Bernard Fensterwald or George Ortoole
and Mark Lane or mister Popkind or mister oglesby the AIB.

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When these people weren't willing to see all the information
that was available, then it wasn't time to open up.
When the researchers agreed that these facts exist, we could
have stood together and allowed a committee to form to
give them the minimum demands, as I have put down
in a position paper of what constitutes a good committee.
I have always mistrusted the people that were setting up

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the committee, and therefore why should I trust the committee.
But getting back to Gandolpho's allegations or comments in the
JFK Assassination Forum article, which is a good article, he
says that the key figure in the surrender of the
Select Committee is Robert Blakey, its present chief council. In
charging that Blakey had odd and recent connections with organized

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crime characters, Ted Gondalfo claimed in February nineteen seventy six
that Robert Blakey associated himself with Mode Dallits, one of
the early activists with organized crime in America. On that date,
Gondolfo substantiated that there was a sum of money that
mister Robert Blakey sold his expertise to Modallas as an

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expert in the area of organized crime, that money was transacted,
and if Blakey refused to say how much money he
received in legal fees working with Modallas, what isn't in
this forum In this article by Ted Gundalfel is the
reminder that Modallats worked with Robert Mayhew while Mayo was

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heading up these assassination teams. That Robert Mayu stayed at
the home of mode Dalits, and I have that on
documents they were in the hotel room when Howard the
body substitute for us was brought in in nineteen seventy six,
may You stayed at the home of Modallas and worked
with him simultaneously with the assassination teams of John Roselly

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and Sam Giacana organized crime. Blakey, of the now heading
the House Select Committee, did legal work with Modalits, and
he refers all of his questions about his relationship to
Modalitts now to his attorney, Louis Neiser, the same man
who wrote the introduction to the Warren Report that claimed

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that anybody who questioned the Warren Report was really deranged,
but more serious than that than calling us neurotics. Louis
Neiser used cover stories put in by again agents of
the Nazi Galen Operation to discredit Lee Harvey Oswald and
make it believable that he would assassinate John Kennedy. Louis Neiser,
because of his prestige, is a famous New York attorney,

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was brought in to write the introduction to the notorious
Warren Report. Not the one printed by the New York
Times or the Government Printing Office. They didn't use his introduction,
but the one published by double Day and Company in
nineteen sixty four has an introduction of Louis Neyser, and
I had charted out in that introduction one lie after another,

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lie after another lie, not based on any fact that
was going to be in the Warren Commission hearings or
the testimony or the evidence. It didn't support his introduction,
and he wrote it. And Louis Nyser is the attorney
that you speak to if you wanted to know why.
Robert Blakey, the chief counsel for the House Select Committee

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on Assassinations, does work and gets paid by modalits of
organized crime. Blakey was recommended for his position as a
committee member by Congressman Christopher Dodd. This is in the
newsletter article by Ted Gondolfo, who was a law partner
with FBI director L. Patrick Gray. Now Christopher Dodd's father

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was the gentleman whose photograph was on the back of
that record Learvy Oswald made for military intelligence when he
was in a New Orleans area claiming he was a
Marxist and Congressman Dodd was sitting with Hail Boggs before
the Warren Commission was formed, and Boggs was to be
on the Warren Commission talking about the communists that killed
John Kennedy. It's Christopher Dodd who put mister Blakey on

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the Warren Commission while he had been a law partner
with indicted former FBI el Patrick Gray. I was the
first person to publish in August of nineteen seventy two
that Patrick Gray should not investigate Watergate because he had
covered up the Itt scandal, the killing of Jerry Lee
on May in Los Angeles, the provocateur terrorists, right wing

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Isla Vista riots in Santa Barbara, the Charlie Manson military
intelligence terrorist operation, the murders seven murders in Los Angeles.
He was covering up murders in Los Angeles that I
wrote about, and I didn't know at the time that
el Patrick Gray had been a law partner Christopher Dodd
and now Dodd with Blakiy on the committee. Gondolfo wrote,

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many of the money of the most frightening and recurring
questions presented by the John Kennedy and Martin Luther King
assassinations are those dealing with the roles of the intelligence agency.
Church Committee revealed their criminal excesses and their close cooperation
with organized crime. And then he claims to say that
Richard A. Sprague, who was a guest on his show,

(58:11):
told me that he refused to yield to the intelligence services,
but that would be yet to be seen. There's Richard E. S. Sprague,
the writer, and Richard A. Sprague was the investigator of
the District Attorney in working under Arlene Spector in Pennsylvania.
I have nothing to see about mister A. Sprague in
terms of his honesty or dishonesty. Has claimed to fame.

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Was prosecuting Tony Boyle, and even that went to another trial.
But there wasn't anything great on killing the mind leader
mister Yoblonski and his family because the people involved that
from the beginning Tony Padus and Tony did it. So
that wasn't the greatest Scooper investigation in history. So I
don't agree carte blanche that we would have gotten a

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better investigation out of Arlene Spector's law cohort in Pennsylvania. Then,
mister blake I think it's six of one and half
a dozen of another. Again, if the people setting up
the investigation are covering primary evidence and are in collusion
of conspiracy, why would they be ready for an investigation?
And what difference who covers it? Ted Gondalvo wrote that

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the rules of the committee, formulated with the assistance of
Congressman Don Edwards, the Constitutional Civil Liberties Committee, had been
flagrantly violated under the leadership of Chairman Louis Stokes and
Council Blakey. They subpoenaed a witness, Robert McEwan, who couldn't
have his own attorney present and who was abused. They've

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insulted and threatened other witnesses. They're not allowed a recording
or a transcript of their testimony. They're not permitted a
public hearing. Jerry Ray and James are Old Ray were
told they may not have an attorney of their choice.
Before when they go before mister Blakey, their sister was
told she may not have a council Nyser as the

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attorney of mister Blakee. Should make it quite evident, based
upon the way he handled the Warren Report then and
the reason we're investigating it now, that Blakee should be
off that committee now. I hope the people that take
these tapes will sit down and write a letter to
mister Robert Blakey. No, don't write to him, write to
President Jimmy Carter the White House, and say, we thoroughly

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disagree with the techniques and tactics of spending taxpayers two
million dollars to investigate the assassination of John Kennedy and
the assassination of Reverend Martin Luther King, and we believe
that this investigation is a fraud. We are researchers, or
we are concerned citizens, we are world watchers international, and

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we want the record to show that you cannot come
back later and say that in nineteen seventy seven nineteen
seventy eight, the federal government under the Householet Committee, did
an investigation the Warren Report was a fraud and to
the Watergate expose. As the Watergate Senate Select Committee was
a cover up. It didn't do its job. It left
to the Rockefeller Committee on the CIA that got too hot.

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They closed that up. It led to the Center Church Committee,
and now this fraudulent committee. Write to the President of
the United States. Keep a carbon of the letter, send
me a copy, and we'll continue next week with our
news account for you world watchers. I hope this format
works out for you, getting an hour a week of
news with a printed sheet out, and I hope we

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can spread the information around the country to friends and
relatives and concerned people. Albeit sending another take next week.
This is June the first, nineteen seventy eight, May Brussel
in Carmel, California.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
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