Brandon Straka revealing the truth about Scott Presler in X Space Part 1

Brandon Straka revealing the truth about Scott Presler in X Space Part 1
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Podcast dot com things. I listened to Branda Straka's space
just a three posts this video.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Basically I got Scott press or exposing space currently.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Quiet about this.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
I struggled with it for a really long time because
I've seen the propaganda campaign that was created either by
him or him and partners in his organization, or to
be honest with you, I'm not one hundred percent sure
whose idea was or who was behind it. But I
can tell you that all of the reasons why people

(00:32):
feel protective of Scott are not true, and and I
think it's time that we started telling the truth about
what's going on, because these are not things that don't
have real world consequences. This is not about any feelings
I might have about, you know, him doing media or

(00:53):
raising money or anything, although I think that there's lots
of implications about that too.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
To me, the most egregious thing about all of.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
This is that Scott knows very well, just as I
know very well as somebody who's been a very active
grassroots activist out there on the ground, working with the
people doing live events, getting out there. It is very,
very very difficult to get conservatives to get involved and
to take a stand and to do the work that
needs to be done so that we can be successful.

(01:22):
And when you start giving conservatives any reason to believe
they don't need to get involved because everything's under control.
When you start telling people I'm flipping states, I'm going
into Pennsylvania and flipping Pennsylvania, and then I'm going to
go into New Jersey and I'm gonna flip New Jersey
and I'm gonna flip Wisconsin. And there have been no results,
no tangible results to back any of this up. He

(01:45):
went into Pennsylvania when Pennsylvania was already on the brink
of flipping red. He went in at the final moment.
He registered a pretty small number of voters from what
we can see. He took credit for flipping the state
red and didn't even acknowledge the fact that President Trump

(02:06):
was on the ticket. Is why President Trump won Pennsylvania.
And don't even get me started on the fact that
there no one's even questioning this narrative that somehow President
Trump would have lost Pennsylvania even though he won every
other swing state. He would have lost Pennsylvania if Scott
Pressler had not gone to Pennsylvania to register voters. But

(02:27):
even if that was true. Why did Scott have to
lie about it on the last day? And sorry, Derek,
jump in here anytime, because I'm kind of just giving
an open monologue here, and then you know, there's I
know there are other people that want to speak on
the topic as well.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
But I'll say this too.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
On the last day of voter registration in the month
in twenty twenty four, which would have been October of
twenty twenty four, Early Vote Action that Scott's organization, they're
Pennsylvania state leader.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
A guy named JD.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Longo put out a post on behalf of Early Vote
Action and he said, I'm so proud of the Early
Vote Action team. Collectively, the entire organization registered altogether ten
thousand new voters in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Eight days later.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Now remember this is on the last day voter registration,
so closed ten thousand voters total for the twenty twenty
four election cycle.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
That's what he said.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Then a voter registration closed eight days later, Scott Pressler
went on Twitter and said Early Vote Action registered fifty
thousand voters in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
And he's never explained how those numbers multiplied.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
By five in eight days or provided any receipts, and
most astoundingly, perhaps no one's asked for any For whatever reason,
whatever this guy says on Twitter, people take is the
gospel truth. Don't ask for any evidence, don't ask for
any receipts, don't ask for any proof, and they just

(04:09):
say thank you so much for doing Pennsylvania for President Trump.
There are people on this platform, and I'm going to
keep stressing that term this platform, because the Scott Pressler
early vote action delusion doesn't really carry on to other
platforms that much. Yes, there are some people on Facebook, Instagram,
whatever that might believe some of this stuff, but it

(04:29):
is almost exclusively an X platform gaslighting, brainwashing operation. There
are people on this platform that think that Scott Presser
registered one hundred and eighty thousand Homish people and drove
them to the polls.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
There are about ninety to ninety.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Two thousand Homish people in Pennsylvania total, including children, and
the data now shows there was no significant change whatsoever
in Amish turnout for the vote or New Amish registrations.
This was entirely a lie, and his organization has raised

(05:09):
six point nine million dollars based off of these lives.
But again for me It's not even about the money.
It's about the fact that we have a serious complacency
problem in the conservative movement. We have a really serious
apathy problem. And if you give conservatives any reason to
believe that they can stay at home, they don't need
to come out work, they don't need to come out

(05:30):
and engage with the community, they don't need to come
out and vote.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And that is exactly what he is doing.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
He has weaponized conservative apathy and told people, don't worry
about it. I've got a magic wand, and I'm going
to come into your state and waive my magic wand
and turn it read. The problem is he has absolutely
no proof or results to back up the claim that
he can do that. And if he could do it,
why did he lose in Wisconsin in the Supreme Court election.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Why did we just lose a Senate seat in Pennsylvania that.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Republicans have held for one hundred and thirty six years.
I thought he flipped the state. I thought Pennsylvania was read.
That's what we were told. Where were all those one
hundred and eighty thousand Amish people when we just lost
one hundred and thirty six year seat that we've held Derek,
do you want to jump in?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Sorry, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I was trying to message somebody own a.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Back channel atments bashing you within minutes when the video
itself is like fifteen minutes long. So there's no way
that any of them watched the video to have any
insight as to what your claims were. But they were
wanting to bash you without even hearing what you were
trying to say. That was probably one of the most

(06:45):
fascinating parts to me that I saw over the last
few minutes here anyways.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Oh for sure, But to be clear, I'm not you
know people, I knew that I was going to make
this video for quite a while, and honestly, I've known
for at least a year, maybe even years, that I
was going to speak out about this. And I'll be honest,
you know, I was in a really terrible position. First
of all, the first thing we needed to do was

(07:11):
get President Trump of the finish line, get him reelected.
That was the most important thing. And I'm sure as
hell was not going to jump in and start rocking
the boat and causing friction or calling things out leading
up to the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
I would never do.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
That, But then the next thing that happened is that
we did get President Trump elected and all of these
people started buying into this massive propaganda campaign. And you guys,
I got to tell me you it really at times
has made me feel despair because I walked away from
the Democratic Party in twenty seventeen. I walked away when

(07:46):
people on the left became brainwashed and when leftism became
a pseudo religion where people were just repeating things that
didn't even make any sense without any evidence. People would
just hear other people saying things, so they started, oh,
white people are bad, Oh, you know, trans lives, trans
rights or human rights whatever. And I'm like, do you

(08:06):
even hear yourself. You're just repeating this because you're hearing
other people repeat it. And that is exactly the same
behavior I have watched since the twenty twenty four election.
I feel like I have watched conservatives go insane. Scott
Pressler brought one hundred and eighty thousand Amish people to
the poll. There's not one single photograph of that. There's
not one picture of a six foot seven guy with

(08:28):
hair down to the floor transporting tens of thousands of
Homish people to the polls, but people write it over
and over and over again. It's literally insane and it's
time to talk about this. But after President Trump got elected,
you know, my first thought was, I don't want, you know,
if we end up in a situation where he's partning

(08:49):
some people and he's not pardoning other people, and I
end up in a camp of people who doesn't get pardoned.
I don't want to sit around wondering what the reason why,
you know, like, is it because I spoke out? Is
it because I said something? But you know, thank god,
President Trump did the right thing, pardoned almost everybody on
day one, And at that moment, I was like, Okay,
I got it. It's time for me to start speaking
out about this because I've had enough. It's not just

(09:11):
about how annoying it is and how it sucks the
oxygen out of the room.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
This is having very real world consequences.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
It is going to cost us elections, it is going
to cost us victories, and it is going to continue
to completely demoralize the grassroots in this country. So many
people in Pennsylvania worked their asses off for years to
get to the point where Republican voter registrations, Republicans were
out registering Democrats. That did not start with Scott Presler.

(09:40):
That was a trend that began phenom. I see you
in here, please feel free to jump in. I believe
that was a trend that began in twenty sixteen or
twenty seventeen and continued every single year, and then Scott
came in at the last minute and said I did it.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
According to the data from Captain Secon Peshel, he's very
well regarded in the data from multiple elections, and you know,
he's got a great sub stack that goes back really
far from I think the twenty eighteen he has analyzed

(10:16):
and Pennsylvania was registering voters twenty one to one Republican
to Democrat. So that trend was happening, and Amish Path
honestly was kind of the leader. They were founded by
somebody within the community that did, you know, start letting
the Amish outreach starting with the first President Trump campaign.

(10:38):
But the reason why I'm interested in listening to this is,
you know, I'm not an influencer, I'm not a journalist.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
But I had.

Speaker 7 (10:47):
I had my own situation with the elections when when
I became sick, I had to vote by mail for
the first time in my whole life. And when I
went back and looked at my voting record I'm in
Maricopa County, there was no records that I had voted.
So I became very concerned and interested in election fraud
and ballot fraud and voter fraud. So over a few years,

(11:10):
I just decided to learn as much as I could.
So I had the privilege of interviewing election analysts and
investigators from all over our country. And I'm talking about
all of them, the ones who have been for years,
you know, analyzing the cast vote records, using their own

(11:32):
money to get, you know, copies of public records that
cost a lot of money to do, really doing the research.
We're talking about attorneys, We're talking about veterans. We're talking
about people who have been in military intelligence, in the Navy,
in the Marines, people who are data analysts science. I'm sorry,

(11:57):
I don't know all that.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I'm not a.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Computer person, but like yper, security analysts, people who worked
in for our own like government, and time after time
after time they would submit different evidence and vindicated when.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Happened like Mule.

Speaker 7 (12:18):
Is that these people tried really hard to reach out
to influencers with large platforms and did not want to
talk about any of the election fraud at all and
were often just told that you know, oh well, I
don't really care. So and there's a lot of people
in this audience.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Too, and people who have data that you know, if
you don't want to believe some of the election fraud,
that's fine, but at least have the conversation, be willing
to look at the data and then debunk it instead
of just saying that it didn't happen or telling someone that.

Speaker 7 (12:54):
You know that you don't care, because just registering voters
isn't enough. I see some people in here who are
very involved on the ground and have done really hard
work for every one of you listening to help do
what they can to try to stabilize and secure the elections,
but they don't have a large following, right, They're not
an influencer, and so sometimes like I just you know,

(13:17):
you've got people up here who have larger followings that
we're willing.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
To if you want. You don't have to, it's solely
up to you.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
I know that you've had some personal experiences dealing with
Scott if you'd like to share them, You're welcome to,
but let's come back.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Derek. By the way, you don't raise your yet with
what's going on. No, I just makes it way easier
to do that, to keep a flow of everything.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
I just wanted to say, and this isn't necessarily directed
as anybody, but like, I don't see how people think
that registering voters help anything.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
It does not help anything at all, And in.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Fact, if these people are not going to vote, it
probably actually hurt our movement in terms if you've studied
election integrity of pumping up the voter roles.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I went to the MV the.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
Other day here in West Virginia to renew my driver's lessons,
and uh, guess what, they asked you to register to vote.
So my DMV is registering way more voters than anybody
in my state or any every other state for the
same way. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna praise my
DMV for registering voters. I don't think it really helps anything.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So I just want to throw that out there.

Speaker 6 (14:17):
I don't really that's not directed at anybody specifically, but
I've never really understood the fascination with of trying to
give anybody major props for that.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
We win elections by getting registered.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
Voters to the polls, not by registering voters.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Who never show up.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
So I just wanted to throw that out there.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
And we see some people down starting podcast this year
for sure, and thank you.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Derek uh.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
And that's that's part of certainly not the most significant piece,
but definitely part of what I'm calling this mass propaganda
campaign because I've seen Scott put out posts numerous times
that literally say say, voter registration wins elections. How like,
how does that make any sense whatsoever? You have no
idea if this person's planning to vote or not. You

(15:03):
don't know if the person's registering Democrat or Republican, you
don't know who they support. You haven't had a conversation
to try to sway hearts and minds. I mean, this
is why I talk about all the time. If you
want to win elections, you have to create permanent change
by changing the culture, by going in and having conversations
and doing the hard work of.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Changing hearts and minds.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
And I want to be really clear about something too,
And you're gonna hear me all over the place tonight,
and you know.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Just keep in mind that.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Me speaking out about this subject is you know, I've
got a lot of you know, energy in me right now.
But like you're gonna you're gonna hear me tonight, you know,
say things that may sound like I'm saying one thing
and then the other thing. I do want to say
there's value to what Scott does, even though I'm here
to call him out tonight, and even though I have
a very serious problem with him, and I'll.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Just say straight up, I think he's a compulsive liar.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, I really truly think he is an absolute
compulsive liar. But you know, if he's going to go
out and stand there and register voters, great, like I
have no problem with that.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
My problem is the.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Lies and the dishonesty and the deception that has been
intentionally done.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
To manipulate people and.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Make people believe that he's got some sort of magic
formula for saving the country, and it's there's literally no
evidence to substantiate any of the things that he has
said that he has done. And if there is, show us, please,
I would love Early Vote Action raise six point nine
million dollars in twenty twenty four. I would love to

(16:34):
know if this organization has if they keep records, and
if they keep records, are we allowed.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
To see them?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Can we see the.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Records of what early vote action actually did? Who did
you register? How many did you resiure how many were Democrats.

Speaker 10 (16:50):
One's listening to this, and you've got like a sour
taste in your mouth because you're kind of like, how
could voter registration be bad? Please understand that I have
an election to tigree nonprofit. I was a political rookie
in twenty twenty. I was not active at all and
got active seemingly kind of out of nowhere, but built
a fairly large organization in Pennsylvania focused solely on election integrity.

(17:12):
And I come across people all the time that don't
want to be told the effort they're putting in is
not fruitful. So if you spend a lot of time
registering voters, please understand that I'm not And I don't
think these guys are either saying that your work was
wasted or that your effort wasn't didn't produce any fruit.
But the cold hard facts of the matter are I
started taking activist training a couple of years ago to

(17:34):
learn how to win elections. As we were fighting the
battle for integrity, which we don't have. There's no transparency
in the reporting and the accounting of the vote process, which.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Is a huge, huge problem.

Speaker 10 (17:43):
But the number one this activist training I took was
from a Pennsylvania Liberty Alliance and Americans for Liberty, and
they came in and the very first thing that the
speaker said was if people come to town to tell
you that we're going to win an election by registering voters,
run for your life. And I took two different trainings
that said the same thing, and I will admit at

(18:05):
the time I didn't quite understand what they were talking about.
But you flashed forward today and like Derek was saying,
in Pennsylvania specifically, when jos Shapiro became governor, he instituted
something that when you go to the DMB now and
you get a state ID or a driver's license, you
have to opt out if you don't want to register
to vote. Our voter roles are bloated, heavily, wildly inaccurate,

(18:27):
which our canvassing effort in twenty twenty proved, and anybody,
quite frankly that's run for office in Pennsylvania, it's gotten
a list of registered voters in their district whatever that is,
and his knocked doors has seen this.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
This is nothing new. Our voter roles are wildly inaccurate,
and so by people going.

Speaker 10 (18:46):
To the DMB and then automatically it's next to impossible.
The burbage is so confusing for you to even understand
what you're opting in or out of. Pretty much you're
automatically getting the first idea in the world. In my opinion,
and again not to put anybody down that if you've
worked hard to register voters, please hear my heart. I'm
not saying that your work was fruitless and it was

(19:07):
not worth it. It's just perhaps you weren't educated on
where the real effort should have been put. In our opinion, expert,
I want to call us an expert. I hate to
even say that, because I'm still just a regular mom
who would actually love to go back to her previous
life where nobody knew who I was, but here we are,
I would The work needs to be in restoring transparency

(19:30):
to the counting and the reporting process, restoring local control
of the voter rolls back to the counties because the
state department can completely control that and manipulated any which
way they want, and so we got specifically concerned with
Scott's big push, particularly right before the twenty twenty four election,
for voting early and voting by mail, because it's an
incredibly vulnerable way to run an election. And we had

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worked so hard for three and a half years to
try to push our elected officials to steer clear of
those things, to provide more tremends parentcy.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
And quite honestly, he just came in.

Speaker 10 (20:01):
And felt like it was a nuclear bomb that was
going to destroy any bit of headway that we did
in fact make. And I'll add this and you guys,
I don't want to take over the space and talk.
I just I know Pennsylvania data so well, I.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
Could talk forever.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Well, I want to ask you about that.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Sorry, I'm not mean to cut you off, but I
do want to ask you about the specific data because
we do know what actually didn't didn't happen, So but
go ahead.

Speaker 10 (20:23):
Yeah, So the numbers that we saw, we've been getting
the voter rolls every week since the twenty twenty election.
The Pennsylvania shore system it's called that stands for Statewide
Uniform Registry of Electors.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
It's just our database for how the state manages the
voter rolls.

Speaker 10 (20:39):
It comes out weekly, it gets updated every Monday night
at midnight, and so you purchase the voter rolls and
you can literally track week to week that what they're doing.
And that's what Scott puts out on his and his Twitter.
He'll say, just got the voter rolls and how many
net gains and how many losses. But he's looking at
it from a very one dimensional aspect. Is a little
bit more complicated than that, and so we have we're

(21:00):
able to track the gains in Republican voter registrations year
to year.

Speaker 8 (21:03):
Specifically, we looked at presidential.

Speaker 10 (21:05):
Election years and between twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, because
every year before presidential election you see an optic and
voter registrations, which makes sense because everyone's paying attention it's
a presidential election. But the net gains from twenty fifteen
to twenty sixteen, when compared to twenty nineteen to twenty
twenty are actually less, and the same thing from twenty
twenty three to twenty twenty four.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
It's a trend going down.

Speaker 10 (21:28):
And we've published all of this stuff on our website
and go to audit votepa dot com and check it out.

Speaker 8 (21:32):
But that's a little bit concerning.

Speaker 10 (21:34):
And to Phenom's point, Captain Seth Peschel pointed out between
twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, Republicans outregistered Democrats in our
state twenty one to one, largely without Scott's help, but
then also quote unquote lost.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
The twenty twenty election.

Speaker 10 (21:51):
So back to Derek and Brandon's point, how is voter
registration the answer? If that's the case, but ow I
one more thing, Brandon, then you can have it back.
We do know that Scott's preferred method of registering voters
is on paper. He's very known for going around to
fairs and gun shows and showing how many paper registrations
he does. And if you talk to folks that have
worked with him, volunteered, or for him, they'll tell you

(22:14):
that's how he registers voters.

Speaker 8 (22:16):
Well, in twenty twenty.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Four, we're able to track how people registered to vote,
whether it was online or it was on paper, and
we only have twenty seven thousand registrations on paper twenty
twenty four, and he's claiming he registered himself fifty thousand voters.
So that's a little bit of a red flag that again,
we don't want to attack him, We just want to
know show us how you're keeping track of this.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, I'm sorry, but it's a little more than that.
I want to know a little bit more than how
are you keeping track of that? I want to know
where are these numbers coming from? And why are you
making these assertions.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
This is not an accent.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I'm sorry, Tony, but like I don't want to sit
here and give the impression that, like he accidentally reported
the wrong numbers, like that's not what happened here.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Sorry, nope, I did it. Totally get it, Okay?

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:01):
And uh, the other thing, Tony is I'd like to know.
I mean, is it your belief that when he was
going on Twitter on a regular basis and saying, you know,
I'm in this area, I'm in this area, we registered
this number, we flipped this county, we flipped this county,
is it your belief that he was basically looking at
the numbers that were coming into the government website and
just taking one hundred percent credit for everything that was
coming in.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
I hate to say it, Brandon, but it is my belief.
It wasn't always my.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
Belief, but the more people I started talking to. Here's
another thing to keep in mind.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Look, I'm sorry, just like, no one should get mad
at you for just saying what you believe. That's it like,
and you shouldn't be afraid to just say what you believe.
This is like, it doesn't mean you hate him or
you're out to get him. I'm just asking is that
what you believe he was doing?

Speaker 10 (23:43):
I do, And the reason that he was doing is
because after interviewing countless people in counties all across the state,
that's what the sentiment is. The people on the ground
are working very very hard on whatever project it is,
and when it looks like there's going to be a win,
Scott swoops in with his big NA campaign, takes a
bunch of pictures as a video and then takes credit.
And that is kind of the consensus all across the state.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Sadly. Yeah, And I want to say too.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
I mean, I've talked to a number of people who've
worked with him, and I've talked to people who've left
his organization, and I actually don't want to do this
thing tonight where I'm I'm where we're doing like hearsay,
because I would like if people are here who've had
first hand experiences, to just tell their first hand experiences.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
But I will this is the one thing I will say.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I've talked to numerous people who have said they'll show up,
they'll jump in a photo op, they'll fan out a
bunch of voter registration cards, you know, take a picture
of himself and then post it out there and say,
oh my god, look at what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
So all these people on ex are going.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Oh, he works so hard, always out there all day
long doing all this stuff. Talk to his volunteers, talk
to the people who work for him who say that
he shows up at the last minute, jumps in a
photo fans out the voter registration cards, and then takes off.
But again, hopefully there's people here who can come up
and vouch for that themselves. Brian, I'm so sorry to
keep you waiting. I just Mary Grace is up here,

(25:01):
and I know I really want to hear from her
because I think she has a personal account. And I
also see Colonel Sean Smith is here and I know
he has a personal account that I'd like to hear
about it. Brian, if you don't mind just hanging on
for a second, and then we'll come to you.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I promise, I.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Will absolutely just want to plug everyone.

Speaker 11 (25:15):
Please do retweet this space and also some of the
data that's been discussed is on real Scott pressler dot com.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Thank you, thanks Brian, Mary Grace go ahead.

Speaker 12 (25:25):
Hey, hey, Brandon, thank you for holding the space. I
listened to your video and I've waited through the whole
video before thinking about commenting. So, but a couple of
issues that I wanted to touch on. Just running the numbers.
If in fact Scott registered fifty thousand people in the
last year leading up to the election, that would be

(25:50):
the math doesn't math very well because that would be
about well, it's not twelve months because you know, they
had to all be registered before or at the beginning
of November, so it was more like ten months plus.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
So that's over a.

Speaker 12 (26:05):
Thousand people a week that have to be registered, so
it's coming out at about one hundred and fifty people
a day. I just don't see that adding up, especially
if he's taking credit for doing that himself. That was
just I was just running the numbers while we were talking.
You know, if he is a phenom, then maybe he did.

(26:26):
But I just don't see that happening. So and then
to speak to your point about you know, him showing
up bringing the voter registrations registering people. I was at
an event in Erie, Pennsylvania, speaking and the Patriot group
of theirs amazing. I've been in touch with several groups

(26:49):
through my friend Sam Fattis, who is headed up the
Pennsylvania Patriot Coalition. Amazing people in the grassroots. People that
have met have been incredible, and so really I want
to give them a lot of credit because I know
that they have been working very hard at coming together
and holding grassroots events and doing boots on the ground

(27:14):
work that is so essential in any state. And I
think that that all of those different patriot groups should
get way more credit than they're getting. And but at
this particular event that I was at, it was very
much like what Tony is? That is it Tony from
audit the Boat? I think we may have met if

(27:35):
it was Tony. If I got your name wrong, I apologize.
So if what I saw was you know, this was
a pretty small event and when I when I was speaking,
and when I say small, it was probably maybe maybe
maybe two hundred at the most people. They're not a

(27:57):
huge crowd.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
But uh, but Scott did.

Speaker 12 (28:00):
Come and he was in the back of the room
and you know, had the voter registration table set up.
And I had met Scott at many, many occasions, some
of the walk away events that I was at with
you Brandon of the very first walk Away March, so
Scott knew who I was.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
And I was.

Speaker 12 (28:21):
Actually shocked when I went up to say hello to
him and you know, gave him a hug, and there
was just no response. It was it was like it
was like he had never seen me before. And and
that was I'm trying to be I'm trying not to

(28:43):
read too much into it, but it was hard not
to because of what I had been watching over the
previous a couple of years. And it wasn't anything that
I could put my finger on, but it was a
sort of self promotion that I had been noticing with Scott.

(29:05):
And I was one of his earliest supporters. I mean
when he back when he was like little Scott Pressler
coming out, you know, with his gaze for Trump reveal,
I was one of the very first people to follow
him and to support him and to promote him. And

(29:25):
so I just found the transformation to be somewhat odd
because I felt like, you know, when you, like Brandon
had said in the video, when somebody is actively promoting
you and giving you a platform. I mean, I've never
had a huge, huge platform on Twitter or x, but

(29:48):
at least, you know, I've been I think, pretty good
about putting people out there and acknowledging them and giving
them shout outs and things like that. So that was
my experience. Now, one thing that I want to touch
on here is something that I saw in the comments
because I have seen this. I've seen this reaction over
and over throughout the years, and it's something that I

(30:10):
see a lot within MAGA, and that is there is
a massive resistance to anything that looks like fighting. And
I see people commenting repeatedly and saying, just stop this infighting,
Stop the infighting. And I want to comment on that

(30:34):
because I've seen it so many times. Guys, we can't
always agree on everything, and when somebody calls out another
person and asks them to give receipts or to tell
the truth about something that is not in fighting, and

(30:55):
if you're afraid to confront anomalies or inconsistent and sees
or things that look like outright lying then you become
an enabler. And that is exactly what we saw from
the Democrat Party, and that is why so many people
have left the Democrat Party because they realize that they

(31:15):
are participating in a codependent relationship that is extremely unhealthy.
And one of the things that Brandon articulates so well
is that we cannot become that in the America First
Maga movement, whatever you want to call it, we have
to be willing to call out inconsistencies, lies, deception, propaganda.

(31:44):
If we don't do that, if we put our heads
in the sand and put our hands over our ears
and say la la la la la, nobody fight, Nobody fight,
nobody argue, nobody disagree with anybody, nobody calls somebody out
or what appears to be lying, then we are headed

(32:05):
for a very very bad road. And the reason that
I know that is because you know, I'm sixty years old,
and I have seen the results, and I've seen the
consequences of people refusing to look at the truth for
what it is. And that's that's why we're here. When

(32:25):
when President Trump first came on the scene, people constantly
criticized him for not being what I would call holy enough,
that he was unconventional, that he wasn't presidential enough that
and they.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
Still do that.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
You know, people still to this day will say, well,
I don't know if he's a real Christian, and you know,
it really upsets me. And I've defended him, and I've
defended people who aren't conventional, who say things in ways
that we don't necessarily want to hear, because you know,

(33:03):
when you're sick and when there's a massive tumor on
the side of your face, you don't want somebody sugarcoating
what they're trying to tell you. You actually need them to
get a scalpel and cut it off. And so when
you have truth tellers in our movement who are willing
to say the hard things, you can't then expect them

(33:26):
to withhold the truth because it doesn't feel good to
your ears. I mean, we see that even in the Bible.
You know, people want their ears tickled, and they don't
want to hear the truth that they want milk not neat.
And we've got to eat meat, guys, and we've got

(33:47):
to hear hard things. We have to hear that somebody
that people are worshiping may not actually be telling you
the truth.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
The Mayor Grace, Can I and can I also just
say yeah, yeah, may I say too?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I would expect the same in return, my God.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
First of all, you guys, nothing, there is no claim
I have ever made about walk Away. There is nothing
I've ever said about my work that I wouldn't be
willing to face scrut me about.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
If you guys.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Ever want to sit me down in a chair, shine
a bright light in my face and ask me about
anything I've ever said, I am always happy to bring
any receipts that I can bring substantiate anything I've ever said.
And if you feel at any point like I'm going
off the deep end, I mean, how easy would it
be for me to go to New Jersey, Virginia to say, oh,
I just did this event today. I got two thousand

(34:38):
people to walk Away today and yesterday I got fifteen
hundred people to eight.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like, somebody at some point should be like, really, dude,
that seems like a lot, like is that really happening?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
And I would expect that I should be asked to
substantiate what I'm claiming. But I want to go to
Colonel Sean Smith because I know, thank you, yeah, thank you,
Mary Grace, please feel free to.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Jump in anytime you want. Okay, Colonel Smith?

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Yeah, Hi, can you hear me? All right?

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yes we can?

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Okay, great, thanks everything I just heard. I agree. I
don't know who Mary Grace is, but the will to
listen more.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Colonel Smith, real quick, can the people who don't know
you because my audience, I'm interviewed you many times and
my audience is much smaller than Brandon's. And could you
just share like your vast experience as a veteran, your
role in like cyber world, and your role as president
of Cause of America.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Sure. I usually want to introduce myself as some guy
in Colorado, which I actually am. So. I spent a
little over twenty five years on active duty, did space
and missile operations, a lot of special technical operations in
operational testing. Special technical operations is dealing with like compartmented
and sensitive capabilities, the super secret squirrel stuff, and I

(36:00):
wrapped up my active utent time. During that time. I
did everything from you know, commanding icbm's intercontinentalist missiles nukes,
to doing operational testing a weapon systems, to operating space
surveillance systems and weapon systems. And then I was a
commander at a missile warning site k CODs, So I

(36:23):
got through the installation and the unit branner of this
fantastic team, and then I wrapped up after doing a
tour doing research with RAND Corporation. I did tour my
last active dutiy assignment with a Director of Operational Test
Evaluation under the OPFICE sectory of defense, where I was

(36:46):
the senior military evaluator first Space and Intelligence Surveillance and
the constant system. So I was responsible for the oversight
of operational testing for all space systems in the department
except for satellite communications, so global positioning systems, space based infrared,
space events, those kind of things whether sight follow on

(37:08):
commander control systems, and then a lot of compartment and
weapons systems. And after active duty I saved for about
a year. My boss had asked me to stand help
them WITHSTEN things and so I did something for about
a year called adversarial assessment with this team. And what
we did was look at the national security data that
had been compromised and expiltrated by some specific foreign adversaries

(37:31):
over about a five year period. How they did it,
what they had gotten to, how it changed their research.
So we were assessing what they knew the impacts on
our web systems, and we wrote a couple of reports
out of that, and then the last report, the new
director in the office did not want to sign out
because what we were telling them was too embarrassing to

(37:53):
the military services. A previous report had gone up to
the President and to Secretary Defense and that kind of thing,
and so I said that, you know, that's it, I'm
out of here. And so I just literally just walked
out of a contractor job, but took my tiny house
and moved to Colorado. So I didn't intend to ever

(38:14):
do anything with government or anything like that again. But
on election day in twenty twenty, I was reading an
article about turnout here in Colorado, and it piqued my interest.
Something was wrong about the data they were citing, and
so I just started going to do research. I looked
at all the Secretary of States data and downloaded other data,
did some regression analysis against population changes, and then started

(38:37):
reading voting system manuals and voting system test plans and reports.
And whereas I know a lot about cyber especially cyber threat,
not compared to people like you know, Jeff O'Donnell or
doctor Doherty or Clay Preek or those kinds of people.
But I know a lot about the threat. But I
really am an expert in testing. So when I read

(38:58):
the testing procedures for our voting systems and then the
plans and reports, I thought, this can't be right. But
the more I read, the more alarmed I was. And
that's how I ended up in election integrity. I didn't
have any intention of doing it. I didn't literally before
the third November, I didn't know anything about voting systems. So,
long story short, I got involved in a Colorado volunteer

(39:19):
group and then that led to going to the symposium
South Dakota, where I met a lot of the patriots
grassroots from around the country. But also, you know, I
had worked a little bit there with with Mike Lindell,
and he asked us later in the year to stand
up Cause of America, which is a nonpartisan nonprofit focused
on helping groups like Audit the Vote PA as much

(39:41):
as we can, although they're pretty far along. It's you know,
we basically wanted to take the lessons we had learned
and try to help other people shortcut so that they
didn't have to go through the same process. That's the
short version. So I'm one of the officers with Cause
of America and and that's what we do full time.

(40:01):
So my experience because of that, since I've been doing
election integrity pretty much full time since about February or
March of twenty twenty one, I had retired.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
In my plan list any of you have the problem
of work, but.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
You know you can't you can't look away when you
see something like this. So anyway, because of that, I
was pretty aware of, you know, increasingly aware of what
works and what doesn't work, and what makes sense what doesn't.
We do a lot of data analysis. I'm not one
of the data guys. We have an excellent data analytics lead.
We have an excellent before him, and this is vickilbertotally

(40:40):
as our analytics lead. And he's run hundreds and hundreds
of millions of voter rule data records through both NCOA
and then other analyzes, written recommendations for the new administration
for Congress about how they tackle some of the issues.
So we have close relationships with a lot of other

(41:01):
election integrity groups like voter GA I could you know,
trew the vote et cetera. So my experience with Scott,
you know, like a lot of people, I first became
aware of him when he was picking up trash in Baltimore,
and I thought, oh, that's you know, that's great. You know,
first of all, do something. Second, be positive enthusiastic, I thought.
And I was a big supporter. And then he started

(41:23):
talking about registering the voters, and I thought, well, that's
great too, let's register more voters. But he, you know,
he's got this, you know, from a distance. I didn't
know him from a distance. He has this very sort
of positive, enthusiastic personality, and I think that's really great.
I would say I would have classified myself as a
supporter without having met him. But then when he started

(41:44):
getting into promoting early voting and a bouot artisting and
that kind of thing, well, then it's like that you
could hear the breaks down. You know, my support came
to a screeching call. Not that I wanted him to
not register voters, but early voting. You know, if you're
not familiar with Jeff o'donald's work, or Draws a Smiths work,
or Doc Dougherty's work, you can go look at Jeff

(42:06):
o'donald's site Fingerprints of Fraud, and you can see his
reports and his video that he has done. I also
I didn't we didn't talk about, but Jeff o'donald was
one of the forensic examiners for the Mesa County, Colorado
forensic reports on images that Firtina Peters had taken. And

(42:29):
so it was Doug Gould for the first two reports,
and then Jeff o'donald and Doc Dherty for the third,
and Mark Cook was also involved in that, and I
was essentially like the technical editor for all of the
all three of those reports. And so if you look
at Jeff o'donald's report or watch his video, which I
think is a very easy to understand summary, it's not

(42:51):
hard to understand. And this is the same pattern that
Doc Doherty and draws of Smith identified. There are what
are called PID controllers at work, portional integrated to rivet
it when you see ratios of boats in cast boat
records that that over time, instead of approaching kind of

(43:12):
a meaning between the variation, instead they have a progression
that is a slope towards a set point. There's no
way to do that naturally with voters submitting their votes.
There's no it's impossible to do. It's important. If you
had one hundred people in a room, you have a
difficult time. And I've coordinated large groups of people, you

(43:32):
know in the military, commanded formations, et cetera. It's not easy.
You cannot get ten thousand people to view that kind
of thing. And it's a it's a very clear evidence
of a synthetic process at work, and that process doesn't
work very well unless you have intelligence or information coming

(43:54):
from coming from information about votes being submitted. So this
is where early voting actually enables rigging of votes. When
you early vote, you're not just submitting that ballot and
losing chant of custody of it, oftentimes through a dropbox
or you know, through the mail. You're also providing information

(44:15):
to people who are running large scale data analytics and
models to determine how many ballots they need to inject
to achieve a particular ratio and a particular outcome and election.
And we tried to explain that, so I kind of
I don't want to say stock that's for one word,
But whenever I had a chance to feel on x

(44:38):
or you know, Twitter and NX and Scott was on there.
I would try to catch him in a room so
that we could talk about this issue because I didn't
know him personally, and he always seemed to dodge it,
you know, he would either be silent or he would
leave the room when I joined it. There was one
space that was hosted apparently by a friend or ally
or something that is. And when I joined and they

(45:02):
they let me come up to ask him questions. They
then let him answer, and it was sort of a
kind of a report more than an answer. I was
asking him about, you know, early voting, and he said
something effected by two words, you know, Governor younkin or
something like that. And I tried to respond and they
muted me so that people in that in that space
couldn't you know, didn't get the benefit of like a discussion.

(45:25):
Sony may make a long story, I don't think it's
possible making sure up a little bit shorter. Finally, when
TPUSA had invited Mike Lindell and some of some of
the kind of in Dell team as we informally referred
to ourselves to go to Las Vegas to that event,
I think that was in I don't know, debree of
twenty four. Maybe we got invited to go there and

(45:47):
Scott was also speaking, and so even though we were backstage,
it was you know, that was an appropriate to approach
him there. But when he was out sort of in
the foyer area out in front of the venue, I
did approach him and say, look, I've been trying to
talk to you for like six months. Can we talk
about this early voting thing? And he immediately launched into

(46:08):
this sort of diatribe about people talking about his sexuality
and this incident in Virginia or whatever with the with
the video. And I said, hey, that's that's not me.
I just want to talk about election and and then
he said, well, you know you have to disabout, you know,
people on your team, and it's like nobody on my team.
And then he pointed in a couple of people like

(46:29):
David Clements and he pointed it at Doc Frank, Doctor
Frank Douglas Frank, who was right next to me. And
I said, well, they're not Cosmic America. On Cosmic America,
let's can we you know, stand stand target here and uh.
And then I said, you know, early voting enables election rigging,
and I can explain to you why And as I

(46:52):
was saying that, I can explain to you why he
cut me off, and and this is where I was.
I've said before, it's like a mass law, and he snarled,
I don't care, and then he kind of leaned forward
like or I tried to lean over me, which I
thought was funny. You know, if you knew anything about

(47:12):
my background, you don't understand why anybody trying to do
something intimidating hilarious to me. And he is taller than me,
but you know they're sayings about, you know, people being big.
But anyway, so that was my experience with Scott, and
that was a point where where that mask drew up
and he told me he didn't care. And I already
knew that he had got a lot of funding through

(47:32):
Tea in the USA. What we had heard was five
million to push early voiding, so I was I guess
I was disappointed about that. And then you know, I've
seen a lot of his claims and I try to
answer where I see he's blocked me now, which makes
it more difficult. But I've seen a lot of his
claims about like Pennsylvania and Virginia. You know, the people

(47:53):
who had the greatest effect in Virginia were the Virginia
budget and what they did with the dropbox watching, what
they did with pole watchers, and what they did with chasing.
Just like just like Audit, the book is done, just
like New York Citizens thought, it now product civic to
do citizens?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Can I stop you for a second, sure, why did
he block you?

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Well, it's not clear. I mean I can probably given
him lots of reasons.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
I mean, okay, so there wasn't like a specific post
or a specific no.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Okay, And I don't you know, I don't like go
after him personally. I care about the things he says
and the ideas that he.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Well yeah, yeah, and that's the thing because and I'm
going to go to Brian next because he's been really patient.
But there's uh, maybe I'll actually create a thread and
just ask if anybody has been blocked by Scott Pressler
for asking Well, no, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Even being funny.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I'm asking you about this on purpose, because there are
literally hundreds of people who have reported that he blocks
them if he asks, not people being nasty, not a hacking,
but literally just asking him, you know, can you verify
the things you're saying? Or how do you explain this?
And they get blocked? And I just think that's really interesting.

(49:09):
I mean, why can't you answer questions about the things
that you're claiming. I find that really alarming. But I
want to go to Brian because he's been very patient.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Hey Brian, Hey, thank you, and let me know if
you get any kind of echo or you can't hear
me properly.

Speaker 11 (49:24):
First of all, Brandon, thank you so much for you know,
daring to speak the truth. And I know you're going
to come under a lot of personal attack for this,
so thank you in advance for doing that.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
And to everyone who's listening, I'm talking to you. If
you have not shared this space, please like, share, retweet it.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
You need to share it.

Speaker 11 (49:44):
This is a message that needs to come out as
well as Brandon's video, so please do that right now.
Also in the comments, if you want to look at
some of this data and evidence that disproves concretely many
of Scott's claims, please visit a website Real Scott Presler
dot com. R E A L S C O T
T P R E S L e R dot com,

(50:07):
Real Scott Presser dot com. And you know, Brandon, you
were talking about an interesting thing about you know, mister
Presser blocking people. And we did a space It was
about three three hours long. It was I don't know,
maybe a month ago, and we talked about a lot
of the data that was on the website. But there
was a very interesting thing that happened. Many people that

(50:28):
were a member of that space reported that all of
a sudden they were blocked by Scott Presser, whether they
followed him or not, whether you know they they had
a relationship, ever commented with him, and they were just blocked.
And what we began to look at that a little bit,
and it looks like they ran a very aggressive blocking script.

(50:51):
Uh that anyone who was on the space or anyone
who reposted or liked anything related to questioning Scott Presser
was blocked by him him. And also if you just
happened to follow someone who did. There's people that said,
I didn't attend the space, I didn't watch the video,
I've never been to his profile, I don't follow him.
I'm blocked by him for some reason. I must be

(51:12):
that I followed some people you know that liked or
retweeted it. So many people don't realize that Scott Presler's father,
Robert Presler, is a director of Information in the Pentagon,
or he was. You can look on his LinkedIn profile.
He did an interview with Sebastian Gorka talking about Scott

(51:34):
Prester in his previous role.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
But there's some very interesting things. And there's a paper
that Scott Presler's father, Robert Presler, sponsored when he was
in the Pentagon. It's called Improving C two and Situational
Awareness for operations.

Speaker 11 (51:50):
In and through the information environment. But what the important
is is what that paper discusses. And it discusses influencing
political outcomes through social media and essentially automation so bots
or AI, and it talks about.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
You know, how that's done, and it'd be very very
easy to see that apply to something like reputation management.
And there's a lot of evidence again on real Scott
Presler dot com. And it appears given given the evidence
a lot there's nine pages of screenshot, for example, reposting
the same phrase over and over Scott Presler's a national treasure.

(52:28):
It appeals appears that these are tactics to manage mister
Preslor's reputation and also artificially boost his popularity.

Speaker 11 (52:38):
His narrative, and I'm sure Brandon will experience it. His
his post are going to be There's a technique in
the paper called flaming, and basically what it means is
he will be inundated with negative gas lighting comments on
his post and they're designed to, you know, discourage people
from posting anything like that ever again. Uh, and to

(53:00):
control the narrative. If you're on social media and you
see a video and then there's one hundred comments under
it saying, oh, this is garbage, Scott Presler's a national treasure,
most people would react and say, okay, well this must
not be true. But the reality and the evidence seems
to indicate that these are techniques that are being used
again to influence a person's reputation, to influence political outcomes.

(53:24):
And why would Scott Presler do that? It was mentioned,
you know that Charlie Kirk posted and Turning Point committed
to five million dollars. That was before his pack early
vote action was formed and Brandon mentioned it. His pack
has received about seven million dollars. There was an article
estimating mister Presler's net worth at four million dollars. He

(53:47):
currently owns about three properties, including a five hundred and
fifty thousand dollars house.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That he inherited.

Speaker 11 (53:54):
Also, he recently purchased another home, which he posted on
his own profile in Pennsylvania, and then he owns a
apartment in downtown Pittsburgh three hundred and twenty thousand. So
this article by Kartik Pratt top estimates mister Preslor's annual
income is seven hundred thousand net worth of four million dollars.

(54:16):
And don't forget that mister Pressler received a free hundred
thousand dollars Diesel suburban in twenty twenty four as part
of a crowdfunding campaign.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
So what we see? Yeah, go ahead, But can.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I ask you though, because you know, I wasn't even
going to bring up money or anything like that, because me,
it doesn't really matter, don't I don't. To me, the
issue is not what he's being paid or if people
want to buy him a car or buy him a house.
I think, like, who cares? I mean, what is the
relevance of bringing that up?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I guess no, that's a good point.

Speaker 11 (54:48):
And but what I'm saying is, you know the problem is,
mister Presler has made a lot of claims that have
been disproven he's been thrust into prominence. You know, I
get what you're saying, but when you're when you're being
dishonest and using tactics that are clearly against X's terms
of service, clearly misleading the public, and then you have

(55:10):
a financial interest coupled on top of that, that becomes
extremely problematic. And so it's it's those three things really
together that I suppose is the relevance.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
And you know, yeah, you kind of feel like like
there's a game being played, and if not for that game,
people wouldn't be buying into this narrative and then feel
compelled to buy in my house or a car or whatever.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, again, I want to make sure yeah you can't.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
But one second, I just I just want to go
on record again as saying I have literally zero problem
with that.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
None of the complaints that I.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Have about any of this are about how people are
financially supporting him or any thing is.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I'm a red blooded capitalist, and.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I believe that people are allowed to do anything that
they want with their money. And if they want to
know by Scott close a car house, I do not care.
I only care about what is true and what's not true,
and that and the incredibly damaging impact that I think
this was having on the grass roots and is ultimately
going to have on our elections.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
But Tony was at you.

Speaker 13 (56:15):
That was me.

Speaker 10 (56:15):
I just wanted to I'm looking at the comments and
a lot of people are saying, where is Scott You
should give him a chance to defend himself.

Speaker 8 (56:21):
I believe correct, Mam wrong brand And he's been invited
and he's not here, so no one's keeping him out.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
He's choosing No, he was invited, he was tagged. I
retweeted the invite. I would love it if he would come,
and if he did come, I would be nothing but
civil and courteous and respectful and just ask him questions
and allow him the opportunity to answer. I mean, that's

(56:49):
all I'd like to do. But Brian, to your point,
I'm actually kind of laughing at some of these comments
that I'm getting. One person here wrote what has Brandon
Strock ever done?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
But there was there was a really funny one. I
read this a second ago, which I already I can't find.
But anyway, yeah, I mean, oh, I know what I
was going to say.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
A lot of these people that are defending him again,
it's really disturbing to me because it's like social justice
warrior behavior that I saw on the left. One woman
actually wrote, and I'm not kidding, she was like, who cares?
If there are so many people lying and cheating, why
are you going after him? And so I wrote her

(57:34):
back and I said, so, if he is lying and cheating,
you're okay with that. And I don't understand. I mean,
it's it's become like a pseudo religion for people buying
into whatever it is that they feel about this narrative
that he saved Pennsylvania. And it's weird, and I mean, truly,
it is almost exactly like when I'm dealing with people

(57:54):
on the left and like getting them to see that
they've been lied to and deceived, but they want to
just keep pledging this agent to these ridiculous narratives about
like trans people or racial issues or something. It's like,
we literally have data that's showing us that he did
not do the things that you believe that he did.
That's making you feel defensive of him, but you're still
you're like, no, no, no, don't tell me the data. Don't

(58:15):
tell me the fact. I don't want to know he
stayed Pennsylvania like it's.

Speaker 14 (58:20):
Frand I agree with you that you know, people can
spend the money the way they want.

Speaker 15 (58:31):
Is an issue here is because.

Speaker 14 (58:35):
I for one, have believed for a long time that
Scott was sort of like a you know, penny less.

Speaker 15 (58:44):
College who was driving around, you know.

Speaker 14 (58:46):
In his old Peter car that you know, he was
much more need than he actually turns out too. And
when you're talking about an influence operation and sona that
that's part of the operation, and you know if it

(59:09):
has been used to deceive and therefore divide, because obviously
now we're seeing the vist and you know, the truth
does divide, It divides the truth from lives.

Speaker 15 (59:24):
And you're seeing people who are acting like social justice
warriors who are.

Speaker 14 (59:28):
Defending him no matter what, and they're telling you stop
picking on him, leave him alone. He's the good guy here,
et cetera, et cetera. Because the money that has gone
into manipulating algorithms, manipulating chats, that very much comes into
play if someone is behind an influenced operation, whether it's

(59:53):
simply to bolster his reputation or to create a divide
in the in the movement, which I mean I've seen
this happen quite a bit, and I think there are
people in this chat who are listening. I know of
at least one who's listening right now who has been
through this, who has seen this type of thing happen

(01:00:14):
repeatedly within the MAGA movement, and so I'm not quick
to discount the money part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
No, I think that's a solid point. Actually, you know,
I I think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I guess my whole thing is, I don't want to
sit around talking about money from the perspective of people
feeling envious about somebody getting rewarded or getting possessions, because
it's it's not anybody's business like, and they.

Speaker 14 (01:00:42):
Don't like, oh, you can't make money. If you do,
you're a grosser. I understand that. I mean it kicks
me off. I'm like, okay, fine, if you want to
be poor and you want to you know, actually think
like a socialist death on you. But but you know,
when did I don't. I mean, our president certainly doesn't

(01:01:04):
that way. He's got like gold toilet, so let's take
his example and you know, for steel wealth. However, if
the money is used as part of an operation to influence,
which clearly it has because the perception.

Speaker 15 (01:01:24):
You know, even even that tad of got pressure is
a national pressure.

Speaker 14 (01:01:31):
We've seen so many coordinated campaigns like this from the
left and I mean you can go through Twitter archives
and see phraseology. I mean, we know even with the
with the fake news that they have talking points to
three am talking points that are put out across the

(01:01:52):
media on a daily basis. You know, uh, we saw
it during COVID. We're in this together, et cetera, et cetera,
do it for others. All of those things, those are
the types of things that are used the way entire
groups of a population, which you know, we are now

(01:02:13):
living through the aftermath of that.

Speaker 15 (01:02:16):
And Okay, a perfect example.

Speaker 14 (01:02:18):
Right now in real time is the number of boomers
that are you know, the cree.

Speaker 15 (01:02:26):
I guess we would call them like the.

Speaker 14 (01:02:28):
Broad burning feminist boomers that are now in their seventies.
They're now standing out there promoting the burning and bombing
of Tescola dealerships and holding signs that they hands off
my whatever. That's all I mean, that's they've just been
manipulated into saying and thinking those things.

Speaker 15 (01:02:50):
Well, it's happened so many times on the right as well.
Dot President is a national treasure. Somebody paid to get
that messaging.

Speaker 14 (01:02:58):
Out into the airwaves trending, and so in that respect,
the money does make a differences.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
And sorry for sure, Derek. Are you still with us? Yes? Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
I also shall offer to come up and help co
host and direct traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I see there's so many people requesting to speak. I
honestly don't even know where to start. So I'll kind of.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Like to you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
I was kind of like you navigate some of that
that wasn't through, yeah, you know, or whatever you want
to bring you up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
But I do think there's an opportunity here to kind
of set a few ground rules for the space, which
we haven't done yet, and we haven't needed to, thankfully,
because it's gone pretty well so far.

Speaker 11 (01:03:43):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
Number One, if you're coming up to speak, your lab
say anything you want, ask anything you want, like great.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
But one, We're not going to do any personal attack
about his sexual.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Orientation or about whatever his appearance or or anything like that.
I want to talk about the claims in Pennsylvania. I
want to talk about what I consider to be serious
problems about what he's purporting to have done or any
personal experiences that you might have that see contradictory from
his public persona to the actual experience that you've had

(01:04:18):
with him in real life. Number Two, I don't want
to get involved in conspiracy theories. I don't want people
coming up here saying, oh, well, there's this thing, what
does that mean? And he's adjacent to this, what is
that like? If you can't draw a direct line between
A and B and the point you're trying to make.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I'm really not interested.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I just want to talk about back numbers, data and
personal experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
And then the last thing I want to say too is.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I can totally understand and appreciate that he and I
have a lot of mutual followers and a lot of overlap.
And I also understand this is probably coming very out
of left field for a lot of my followers and
my fan base. A lot of people are just like,
what the hell is going on and feeling really uneasy
about this, And I can understand and I appreciate it,

(01:05:06):
and I care deeply about that too, by the way,
because I care very very much about my own followers.
But if you are a follower of mine, or if
you're a fan of mine and you're in the comments
right now saying that you know, you're either going to
unfollow me for talking about this or you're you know,
strongly disapproved you, guys. My allegiance, first and foremost is

(01:05:29):
to the truth. And that is why I walked away
from the Democratic Party. And part of the reason I
walked away from the Democratic Party is because the people
around me started telling me I wasn't allowed to ask questions,
I wasn't allowed to talk about this, or that that
they would punish me or disconnect from me, or you
know that I would face consequences for not going with
the public narrative and the vibe and what was being said.

(01:05:51):
I'm not doing it, you guys, And I want you
know I'm not saying that I don't care. I do
if you unfollow me or if you're going to turn
on me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
I do care about it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
But I care about the truth more and I'm always
going to fight for the pursuit of truth. And I
believe that we are all being lied to and propaganda's too,
and we have a lot of data.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
To back that up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
And again, got Pusser, you are welcome to come in
this space. I would love for you to come in
here and just answer a few questions. Why did the
Pennsylvania director of your organization post the organization wide you
guys registered ten thousand voters, and eight days later you
inflated that number by five hundred percent and told the

(01:06:35):
public that you registered fifty thousand voters and that you
delivered the presidential win for President Trump. I would like
to know do you have records at your organization to
substantiate the numbers that you're claiming that you registered? And
what is the true and accurate number of Amish people
that you registered and delivered to the polls. I just

(01:06:56):
want to know the answers to these questions. Why do
people believe it's anywhere from eighty thousand to one hundred
and eighty thousand homage people that you registered.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
And took to the polls? Do you have any evidence
to back that up?

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
I just want to know, and I think that we
should be allowed to ask these questions because these narratives
lingering and persisting are contributing to conservative apathy and complacency
and people feeling like they don't need to get involved
to do anything because states are being flipped and he's
coming in and waving a wand and flipping states. People
are not showing up to vote, they're not showing up

(01:07:29):
to volunteer, they're not getting involved. They think everything's under control,
and it is not under control, which is why we
just lost a Senate seat in Pennsylvania, a state that
was supposedly flipped.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Just months ago.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
We lost a seat that we've held for one hundred
and thirty six years, and the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which
he blamed everybody else for. It was because of him
that Trump won, but he blamed everyone else when we
lost in Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
That I don't understand. Did you flip Wisconsin or not?
I would just like some answers to these questions, Yeah,
what's up?

Speaker 16 (01:08:03):
Well, Brandon, thank you for having the you know, the
courage to step up and tell the truth.

Speaker 13 (01:08:09):
I know none of this is easy. I when I
first started calling.

Speaker 16 (01:08:13):
Out starting in twenty twenty two. And for those that
don't know my background, I am a witness to the
election fraud I have uncovered. I am an export in
the elections, and I'm a hardcore grassroots activist in Pennsylvania
that gets suppressed just like every other grassroots effort, and

(01:08:37):
many of them are sitting in this in this space,
like like Mark Cook, a lot of people I know
in here, and I just want to say thank you
all for the hard, hard work that you do and
don't get credit for. So my direct experience actually with
Scott was I had planned for Scott to come into
Delaware County in twenty twenty and that's when he was

(01:08:57):
just talking about doing voter redgistration. And he was very
small potatoes and didn't speak the way that he does.
And I, despite setting up that entire you know, uh seminar,
I did that, you know, he didn't give me any
credit for it. He ended up giving credit to uh,
a woman by the name of Valerie being Canelo, who's

(01:09:19):
a in my county.

Speaker 13 (01:09:22):
So that was my very first experience with Scott. And
then later on, of course I had.

Speaker 16 (01:09:27):
Watched over a period of time when he started and
stop the steal, and then I noticed that his platforms
get getting bigger and bigger.

Speaker 13 (01:09:37):
At least it seemed that way. And then fast.

Speaker 16 (01:09:39):
Forward when really this whole early vote nonsense and vallid.

Speaker 13 (01:09:47):
Harvesting came from the rn C, and it came

Speaker 16 (01:09:53):
And when I started speaking out about you know, obviously
for the past five years, assass