Brandon Straka revealing the truth about Scott Presler in X Space Part 2

Brandon Straka revealing the truth about Scott Presler in X Space Part 2
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what they're doing or work with them, and
he had yet to.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Do that, so I would encourage.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
People to and that is literally exactly one of the
experiences that I highlighted in the video that I put
out tonight. Now, remember I had already known him for
two and a half years and had nothing but what
I believe to be a positive perception of who he
was by the time we got to the twenty twenty election.
When we got past the twenty twenty election and a

(00:25):
group of influencers came together to do this what we
called Stop the Steal, and the whole purpose of Stop
the Steel was to try to get people with large
social media followings to go to swing states hold rallies
and encourage people to come out, keep their spirits up,
keep pressure on their state legislatures, and tell people, you know,
we demand a forensic audit of the boat. We're not
going away. We want answers to what happened in the

(00:47):
twenty twenty election. And the agreement that we all had
was that we were all going to take videos of
our rallies, post them, use the hashtag Stop the Steal,
and that we would all share for each other's videos
to help amplify this as like a national movement and
a national message because there were people in Arizona, there
were people in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, Washington, DC, and

(01:12):
so we were all supposed to be sharing each other's stuff,
and we were all doing that except Scott, who went
to Pennsylvania and was post taking videos of his rallies,
posting them and saying I'm doing this and I'm doing that,
and I'm in Pennsylvania and I'm saving Pennsylvania and all
of this stuff. And meanwhile we're all posting his videos.
So we're all amplifying his Pennsylvania videos, but he won't

(01:33):
post anyone else's And all of his messaging was I
I I II.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
There was no weed.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
There was no And that's when I started to see this,
Like it was just started.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I was like, Eh, what is this?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Like this is that seems very self serving? And then
I started to see it more, and I started to
see it more, and I started to realize, like he
really is just all about creating this perception that he
singularly is doing all of these things, and he uses
a lot of people and takes advantage of a lot
of people and takes the credit for himself. And it's

(02:05):
just one thing. George, I see that you're back. Please
you're not to share a personal antecote.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Yeah, let me just make him on I We don't
care that.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
I mean, I honestly don't care if he takes credit,
and we don't care that other people don't take credit.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
We just want results.

Speaker 6 (02:21):
And if I hear one more time Scott is coming,
people actually think that they that they can do less or.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's problemly stalled.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
This whole propaganda is actually hurting us. So it's I
am thankful to you that you are putting this information
out so people are aware of the fact that if
they're gonna get it done, they have to get it done.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Santa Claus is not coming.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
And my personal experience, I'm gonna leave the name of
the person out because.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I don't know if they want to they want.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
To be ousted by me or whatever their household name.
And they were Scott's employer in in this arena, and
Scott was completely ineffective at all.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
He was trained, and.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
He was very ineffective, and on his way out he
swiped their entire database. I can tell you that offline,
but I'm not comfortable announcing too that organization that person
is just because I wasn't I wasn't really intending to
do that. I have an issue of integrity, I have
an issue of personal Start them. I don't need a

(03:30):
rock star. I need people. I need brass fool people because.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
In New Jersey we have a real shot at it.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
I don't want one person to take the credit. It's
going to be hundreds, maybe thousands of people required to
turn New Jersey read and it can be Scott. The
other time we had what is it a testa rally
and it was announced and it was all over the
New Jersey. Oh, Scott Trusler is coming for a rally

(03:58):
to support. Everybody comes in, where's that?

Speaker 7 (04:02):
Where's that?

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Some lady showed up and.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Said, oh he he he couldn't come. Okay, fine, I
don't care if he comes. But I'm tired of the
dog and pony show. We just want beat on the
ground and we want results.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
George, you just brought up one more thing that actually
is a very relevant point. Thank you, because I'd actually
forgotten to make it. You know, leading up to the
twenty twenty four election last year, we know with walk Away.
One of our missions has always been to try to
connect with minority communities, go in and have the conversations
with you know, black, Hispanic, LGBT, all different kinds of

(04:38):
people who are typically voting Democrat and large voting blocks.
Get people to wake up and change their minds. And
so we wanted to go and help some people on
the ground in Chicago because there were a number of
movements reaching out to the black community in Chicago, and
so we reach out to I reach out to some
of the leaders of these these black movements in Chicago

(05:00):
trying to turn black neighborhoods red, and they told me
straight up they didn't want me to come. And I
said why And they said, we're really leery of having
national figures like you come into our town. They said,
we just got burned by Scott Pressler And I said,
what are you talking about. And they said, Scott told
us he was going to come to Chicago. He's going
to help us register voters. He was going to talk

(05:21):
to the black community. They said, we put an event
together for him, we spent all this money, and he
didn't come.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
He didn't show up.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
This is and I've heard this story more than twice
just about last year.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
And that's another thing.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
That you know, this is not my biggest point, but
it does affect all of us in a way because
I've had people tell me they don't want to work
with me because of experiences that they've had with him,
And I have to explain we're not the same person
and we don't have the same ethic or the same
background or the same goals.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
But it is really a problem.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's a problem the way it affects other people, but
it's also a problem that there is this chronic thing
that's happening where he's not going through with the things
that he says he's going to do. And what's very interesting,
and I alluded to this in my video, he doesn't
go on Twitter and.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Tells people when he's canceling events.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
He goes on Twitter constantly and talks about where he's
going and I'm doing this and I'm doing that.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
But then when he doesn't show up, he forgets to
mention that to people. Shall go ahead, All.

Speaker 8 (06:24):
Right, We've got Mark who's been waiting for a little
bit here and eighties on the little time.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But he has a story point.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Okay, but Mark, I'm gonna ask you for a favor here.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh yeah, uh, Mark, I'm gonna ask if you could
please try to start your story closer to the point
where you were actually working with Scott, because I've heard
your story before and there's a lot of extraneous details
at the beginning, but.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Just to keep the conversation moving, Okay, Yeah, going right
into it.

Speaker 9 (06:54):
Actually, so I met him before the twenty twenty election
at Trump DC down the basement, just briefly met him.
Then fast forward right after the twenty twenty election, on
I think it was November fourth, actually, I saw a
message on Facebook from him saying he's going to Pennsylvania
and he needs help.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
So I got a phone number from someone that I knew.
I called him. I said, Hey, you need some help.
Should I go there and help? You said absolutely?

Speaker 9 (07:20):
And I've got text messages going all the way back there, and.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
In the process of putting a video out with.

Speaker 9 (07:25):
All those text messages that I had with them so
everyone can see what I've been dealing with. But I
did fly immediately from Tampa, Florida, where I watched the election,
to the Pennsylvania Capital steps. I got the first stop,
the Steel Rally, signs all together for that stopped the
Steel Rally, which Scott did say he was running. That

(07:49):
was his deal was Scott stopped to steal and he
was the organizer for it. So I helped him with that.
For four days I shared a hotel room with him.
I shared another a Patriots house that offered us a
place to stay. After a couple of nights in the
hotel room, I had dinner with his parents. While I
was out there. I told me he was kind of

(08:10):
living out of his van. I spent a lot of
time in his van riding around with him. He got
a call about some ballots in a dumpster at a school,
so we went and drove to that school and started
going through dumpsters trying to find shredded ballots.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Let's see what else Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (08:30):
A week later I met him for the second stop
to Steele Rally out there and went door knocking with
him and spent quite a bit of time with him
while he was doing his little Facebook video shoots. And
then I ended up out in DC with in Sydney
Pallace war Room actually investigating the election as a part
of the Teina Peters forensic reports went in two Maricopa County.

(08:52):
I worked at Kerry Lake Trial. I wrote Engineered Depth
of a Superpower. I founded hand count ROACHO, and I've
been investigating elections traveling the country for the past four years,
and so early voting and mail in are a huge problem.
I know this in the investigation that I've done in
person in election day is the safest way to go

(09:12):
bank your votes, to scam the real votes is what
wins election. Registering voters does not win elections. In fact,
it can lose elections if it's abused. And it's the
most easy thing to abuse for people that are manipulating elections.
And so when you register voters and tell people you
flip a state by registering voters, it causes people to
not go out and vote. But those inflated voter roles

(09:35):
are beautiful for people that are going to manipulate the
elections because that's exactly what they use to manipulate the election.
So then I ended up in Arizona at Dream City
Church and I ran into Scott in the bathroom and
I thought, this is a great opportunity to talk to him,
because he wouldn't respond to my text messages, wouldn't answer
my phone calls, and he was in the corner blow

(09:55):
drying his hair in the men's room, and when he
was done, I washed my hands as well, and he
was walking out. I went up to him and said, hey, Scott,
we've got to talk about early voting. And he did
remember my name, but he talked to me in a very,
very crazy, deep accent. Was not his normal voice. And
I'd spent a lot of time with Scott. I shared
a hotel room with him for four four days, so

(10:17):
I knew what his voice sounded like.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
That was not it.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
But he basically pointed a finger at me, told me
every single expert has holding the same thing, even Professor
David Clemens, and he doesn't care. He's not going to stop,
so I'm not going to stop. And he walked off
on me, so I kind of followed him. I found
out he was in the green room. I went and
talked to him in the green room and say, hey, Scott,
I'm putting on a handcount here for the Arizona GOP.
We're upstairs. We're doing a full handcount on the election.

(10:42):
Would you please come up and take a look at it,
literally two small flights of stairs. He refused, to go
up and look at the handcount that we were doing
for the Arizona GOP. So shortly thereafter I go to
Pennsylvania on my handcount road show tour.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
I can't barely get an event with the homis.

Speaker 9 (11:00):
I did meet a lot of citizens out there that
were busting their butts getting people registered to vote and
getting the vote out, getting out the vote, which.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Is actually what's important.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
And never did I hear about Scott Presler in Pennsylvania
until later.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
Then Scott just blocked me all of a sudden.

Speaker 9 (11:15):
When I looked on one day and wanted to comment
on something, I found out I was blocked by him.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
And I had not said anything to him in months,
but was blocked.

Speaker 9 (11:24):
So then he saw the pictures released to him, you know,
with that other gentleman for a cause a little bit of
chaos in the movement.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
I think that was intentional.

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Then I ended up in a Hawaii and I was
talking to the folks in Hawaii as I traveled the
islands with my handcout road show presentations, and I was
told that Scott when he came out there, people were
pretty frustrated with him because he was and this is
what I was told he was hungover a lot and
he was browsing his phone looking for people to meet,

(11:54):
and even brought one of those guys to one of
their GOP events, and the guy said he met Scott
the night before from a phone app and didn't know
much about him, but he was hanging out outside the
GOP event out there.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
The citizens that were there were really uncomfortable with that.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Then.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
So here's my take summary is he's an influence off.
I think he established himself in the movement with all
that riot cleanup.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
I think then the election happened twenty twenty that he
started to stop the steeal rally because he had already
got some notoriety and some respect by cleaning up all
those cities.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
And went to cover up.

Speaker 9 (12:34):
I think what is potentially massive vote manipulation by mass
registering people to vote in order to blood the voter
roles in those particular states in order to kill the
down ballot races, while sucking the money out of the
MAGA movement and misdirecting everything. So that's my summary. I
do have a lot more detail. Please anyone follow me.

(12:56):
I'm happy to answer any questions. I'll get all these
text messages from you posted as well.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Thank you Mark, thank you. I appreciate you're sharing your experience. Sheelle,
I am lost. There are like one hundred and fifty
people requested and so many hands up.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
It's okay, I got you. Greet in America. It's going
to be next. We're going to go to Steff after
that Shell.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So also, I was reading the comments. There's a guy
down here named Matthew come Contraras who's requested of Mike.
It sounds like he's not thrilled about Scott being criticized,
and I want to give everybody an opportunity to be heard.
So that's somebody who we might want to bring up
in here. What he has to say to you.

Speaker 10 (13:40):
Got it?

Speaker 11 (13:41):
Yeah, Thanks guys and Brandon, thank you so much for
holding this space.

Speaker 12 (13:45):
Just real quick points and then I'll drop down so
you can bring other people up.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
One.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
We don't have a turnout issue.

Speaker 11 (13:50):
To research in twenty twenty said ninety four point one
percent turnout in the United States ninety four point one percent.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It was a major outlier.

Speaker 12 (13:59):
Why let that year The average globally is in the
mid to high sixties.

Speaker 11 (14:03):
It's never been explained and the excess votes disappeared.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
In twenty twenty four two, Scott Presler was patting the
voter roubles. Mark talked about this.

Speaker 12 (14:11):
If Presler was checking eligibility before registering voters, he would
be sued for voter suppression under the KKK Act. I
was sued for voter suppression under the Kkkact for knocking
doors and checking the results. Anything election fraud related in
the past four years got you sued so that you
would be stopped.

Speaker 11 (14:29):
He's not checking eligibility. He's simply padding the voter roles.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
He's basically Michelle Obama. When I asked him.

Speaker 11 (14:36):
How he verifies the eligibility of the voters that he's registering,
he blocked me three.

Speaker 13 (14:41):
I debated Scott on early voting and ballot chasing and
legitimizing the other mechanisms of election fraud about a here
or so ago.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Phenomenology was in that space, and I explained.

Speaker 13 (14:51):
What we've learned about early voting combined with mail in ballots.
He told me it was blowney. He presented no counter argument,
and he changed the subject. Finally, it is in resulting
too and fundamentally detached from the very nature of Grasslord's
action for one person to claim the victory of state election.
Wrestler's assertions about Pennsylvania are offensive and despicable. They're an

(15:11):
insult to the critical work of people like Karen.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And Tony and Caroline and.

Speaker 14 (15:18):
Leah that are doing work inside out, making real, real
sacrifices and getting sued because everybody that pursued election fraud
got freaking persecuted by the government.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Over the past four years.

Speaker 11 (15:30):
I think he's a despicable disgrace and I don't give
a shit if it upsets people that their favorite toy
is insulted. He is a danger to our nation. He
is legitimizing the mechanisms of fraud. I don't want Republicans
to win fake fucking elections. I want to restore verifiable,
accurate elections to the American people.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Thank you, Wow, thank you, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
And I just want to take a real quick moment
to to also remind people going back to the point
that we're going to probably have to keep repeating about this, like,
you know, why stop the infighting, don't criticize people, and
we're all on the same team, and you know whatever,
This is how we got the swamp in the first place.
The very swamp that we're trying to dream, the very
swamp that has become so out of control that we

(16:15):
feel like we can't get anything done in DC. This
all happened because we weren't allowed to criticize people on
our own team who were doing deceptive and dangerous and
destructive things. And then all of a sudden, the whole
system becomes so out of control that now we find
ourselves in the swamp that we're trying to drain and
we can't get ourselves out of.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
So you can't have it both ways.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I mean, there was a time where every person who
is now part of the swamp was somebody who was
considered to be on your team, but people were not
allowed to criticize them or call them out at the time.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Sorry, Shelby's go ahead.

Speaker 8 (16:47):
Let's go ahead and bring take that new jersey in.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Thank you for giving me the mike.

Speaker 15 (16:55):
I'm not real crazy about this space because it does
create the vision, But I want to remind everybody that
you all know that the last ten years or all
of our elections have been fake, right, They cheat in
the background.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
So getting people out more engaged.

Speaker 15 (17:13):
Yeah, Scott has an ego, but he's getting more people engaged, so.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
I I don't mind.

Speaker 15 (17:22):
I don't want to fact check him to the great detail,
but I think you guys should all be focusing more
on the elections and getting hand counting systems in and
replacing the machines. And you know that every election is faked,
So if a down ballot doesn't it goes Democrat, I

(17:43):
mean a good Democrat instead of Republican. When the top
of the ballot went Republican, it doesn't matter because you
know they all cheat on.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
The back end and it's all the machines and without
all yields.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, I want to respond to the point that you made.
I mean, first of all, I'll agree with you that
there are people that I think he's inspired to get involved,
and I don't want to denigrate that in any ways.
I also don't want to demigrate the actual work that
he's actually done.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
I know that he has actually registered voters.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I know that he has actually knocked on doors, and
any voter that anybody registers is a contribution. Although people
are talking about bloating the roles, but I'm not denigrating
the actual work that's being done. My issue, again, are
the lies that are being told about things that are
not happening, and I think you have to say you

(18:35):
have to ask the question. Okay, if he's getting say
twenty or twenty five people, which is my understanding from
the employees of the organization, that there was never more,
I'll round up and say thirty. But I've talked to
people who have worked for the organization and said who
have said there was never more than twenty five people
working for the org. Even though Scott was going on
television and saying that there were anywhere from fifty to

(18:57):
seventy five paid employees on the ground, I don't think
that was true. It's never the results of that have
never been seen in the people who work there say
it was closer to twenty five to twenty eight. So
you had to ask yourself if the twenty five to
twenty eight to people that are being inspired to go
out and work is greater than all of the people
who have been inspired to quit. Because one person is

(19:19):
taking sole credit for everything that's happening in the entire state,
I would like to know the numbers of people who
decided not to go out and get involved.

Speaker 15 (19:27):
Let me just add that in the seventeen seventy six
of revolution.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
The people who were.

Speaker 15 (19:35):
Recognized were like one percent or two percent of the
people who lost their lives in seventeen seventy six.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
You never know about them.

Speaker 15 (19:44):
So why are we picking on one person because he's
out in the front right you know.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, really answer that question if you'd like been answered.

Speaker 15 (19:53):
Yeah, that and why are we worrying about some somebody
else getting credit for something that we're all doing? It
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 16 (20:04):
Take take back really quick, just out of curiosity. Did
you watch the video that Brandon put out?

Speaker 17 (20:10):
No?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Because I really don't want to. That's all you here.

Speaker 16 (20:13):
No, So you don't even know the claims that Brandon
has made in his video, and you're and so.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Like to me, it's like if you're not, no, I mean,
what's all let me finish. Let me finish. If you're
not going to take fifteen minutes to.

Speaker 16 (20:27):
Watch a video of what Brandon is claiming in in
the video, I don't really know how anybody, for that matter,
could come up here and try to add to this
conversation from the other perspective and defend something when you
haven't even watched the video. That's that's all I want
to say.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
All right, well, what were the claims in the video?
Then just real quick dropping on the listener.

Speaker 16 (20:52):
Go watch it and come back if you want. It's
literally being spoon fed to you right now. There's a
there's a damn video about it. You don't have to
read anything. It's not like you have to go read
a book. It's a it's a video. Go watch it,
come back.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Should we go to Jane Kelly?

Speaker 8 (21:13):
Anne was up next, and then we're gonna go to
stet gotcha.

Speaker 18 (21:19):
Okay, guys, thank you so much, and Brandon, thank you
so much for having the space.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I've been calling out Scotts for.

Speaker 18 (21:25):
About seven months, so I have personal experience and I
have been getting a lot of heed from it. So
I'm in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and as you all know, Scott's.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
He was the one who here.

Speaker 18 (21:37):
She claimed that he he flipped our states or our county,
which is not true.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
So I am in a grassroots group right for Bucks.

Speaker 18 (21:47):
They have been there are there are boots on the
ground for so long now. The fact is with Scott,
I am a committee woman. I have witnessed election fraud
at the local level within my own party, at our
rear meeting. That being said, we had a Bucks County
Commissioner's meeting. I'm sure you guys are all aware of

(22:11):
our county commissioners who are counting the outdated ballots with.

Speaker 8 (22:15):
The McCormick and the Casey race.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
So Scott came there just.

Speaker 18 (22:20):
Because he wanted all the cameras on him, and it
was all of his posts where me, me, me, and
there were people talking about filing charges against them, like
awesome patriots, and he did not share their posts. I started,
so I guess I like rewind, I started asking Scott

(22:42):
if he could just give us, you know, a little
credits just to It's not like I care about it,
but still, and he just refused. And then I started
calling him out and he freaking blocked me.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Now to go back to our meeting.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
He walked in.

Speaker 18 (23:01):
To our county commissioners meeting with the rhinos who stole
our election, which is complete both and then for like
all the ones who are saying that we have to
stop backing him and causing division, no we don't, because
he is going to infiltrate us. He moved to Pennsylvania

(23:23):
and Berks County. I'm actually worried he's going to move
to Bucks County. He's gonna come in the race run
for Rep. And he's gonna be a rhino, just like
we have Fitzpatrick here. So we need to stop from
now before he comes into our area. And I think
I said everything I want to say.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Thanks, Kelly.

Speaker 19 (23:43):
I just to hitits up, Brandon.

Speaker 8 (23:44):
Early vote action is in the space. I did send
them a mic. You're more than welcome to come up.
I'll save us pot for you. Go ahead, step.

Speaker 19 (23:55):
Good evening, everyone, and thank you for the opportunity. Brandon.

Speaker 20 (23:59):
I worked here in New York on two election integrity teams.
I did get to meet Scott and I'm not going
to talk about my experience. What is important is what
the people on the ground learn. No one here, especially
in the Bronx, the five boroughs we need voter turnout
this year. They are unaware if they're registered. They are
unaware who their representatives are. They are unaware of the

(24:20):
election process. So if we're going to be effective in
winning our elections, we can't call our cities and counties
blue or red when people don't even know basic phibits.
And I think that's the greater problem I appreciate you
turning a light on who is trying to change the

(24:42):
narrative or conversation away from where we need to be.

Speaker 19 (24:46):
What we do need to focus on. From my experience
and the knowledge that I have, and.

Speaker 20 (24:51):
I've worked with researchers here in New York that understand
the voter roles inside and out and where the issues are. Yes,
we want to register people to vote if they're not registered,
and if they want to turn out, If they're not
willing to mark their calendars, if they're not willing to
work with candidates, if they're not willing to volunteer to
be poll watchers, inspector's day of elections and the ten

(25:13):
days of early voting, if candidates aren't willing.

Speaker 19 (25:16):
To go door knocking or go into.

Speaker 20 (25:19):
Nursing home facilities, senior citizen facilities.

Speaker 19 (25:22):
And actually run a campaign.

Speaker 20 (25:24):
These are the issues that we can as an election
integrity team across the country. These are the gaps that
we can fill. And at the same time, if someone
isn't doing something, calling them out is a responsibility. It's
our civic responsibility. It's what our founders intended us to do,
because this is how our nation was built. And developed,

(25:45):
and this is our role moving forward. So I appreciate
the opportunity. I think everyone, I'll drop down so you
can bring more people up.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Have a great night everyone, Thank you, Steph.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
And I want to comment on what you said about
it being a civic responsibility to call people out. I mean,
I really, honestly they appreciate that. And I keep thinking
about what George said. It's really like bouncing around inside
my head. George said, Uh, you know, it's it's like
you're telling people there's no Santa Claus and they're responding
accordingly about you saying that. I keep hearing that play

(26:16):
back in my mind and what it's making me realize.
And I want to preface this by saying, and I'm
being sincere, I don't want to offend anybody because I
care deeply. I care even with people who might hate
me right now or have an issue with me. I
care about all people on our side of the aisle.
I certainly care about my fans and followers. But it's
it almost reminds me and again, it's very much the

(26:37):
same type of behavior I saw on the left when
I left the Left.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's almost like, you know, people have it's almost like
an addiction.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
And when you're taking something away from someone, they feel
like you're taking something away from them, and then it's like.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
A panic reaction. They want to attack you.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
And I'm realizing that there are a lot of people
right now who've found a lot of comfort in believing
that Scott Pressler is going to fix your problems. The
Scott Presler is going to come into your city or
your district or your community and fix it, and it's like, Oh,
thank God. It brings people a sense of relief. And
by challenging that, I think what people are really reacting
to is losing that sense of comfort from that very

(27:17):
false narrative that he's going to come in and fix
your problems. And I actually think that's a lot of
the reason why some of these people. Not all, but
I think a lot of these people are being very
nasty in their reaction and their response because it's almost
like they're having a panic reaction to this idea, like, Oh,
my god, don't take away you know my blanky that's
making me believe everything is going to be okay. But

(27:40):
the thing you need to realize is it was never
true in the first place.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well true and to.

Speaker 20 (27:45):
That point, there is only one person on the pedestal,
and that is God.

Speaker 19 (27:49):
When we try to put anyone else on the pedestal,
they will disappoint us.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
So if we just keep.

Speaker 19 (27:54):
Our focus that way. Well, no, don't put me in
a pedestal. I'm just here to do the ground run.
No one should ever expects me put on a pedisil.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
All right, everybody, I'm rotating the best that I can.
If you do come up on a mic and you
just sit here and don't put a hand up, I'm
gonna rotake you down and bring people up that are
going to put their hands up and get involved in
the conversation. Uh, we're gonna go to Caroline next, if
that's okay.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Right, Yeah, that's absolutely fine.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I just want to make an effort to try to
bring up Matthew because I do want if there are
people here who would like that.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
I've tried to find him. Will he put in a request?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
He is request, I'll accept him right now, there we go.
I just if there are people that want to come
to advocate for Scott, I want to give them the
opportunity to do that.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
And I think he does so.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, that Lisson.

Speaker 21 (28:41):
My husband is like, yes, yeah, my husband just woke
up and you know, right when I got the mic
to here, and he don't want to hear no more
about Scott Press because he had it and I don't
buy him. And it's almost over anyway, because he is
going to get found out. Scott is going to get
found out. He is dishonest. I'm here in Bucks County.
I listened to the young girl talk yes, write for buses,

(29:03):
work their ass off, work their ass off, only for
Scott to come around at the last minute and hold
out forums that were filled out somewhere else and took
pictures and took the credit for everything that they did.
And I've got, you know, screenshots for that, and I
know the people and all that stuff. And then I
wanted to talk about also when he came into the

(29:25):
meeting at the at the Board of Elections, he was
signed in by a really oppressive committee woman and that's
who he sidled up with. That's like the biggest problem
is he's not sidled up with any such sort of crassrods.
He's sidled up with really really bad actor GOP. If
we're talking about GOP, people that wanted Nikki Haley or

(29:49):
de Stantis. They aren't Donald, they weren't for Trump, and
they're not American Firsters. These people are. These people helped
get Josh Shapiro elected, and he's you know, he's causing
all kinds of chaos and disruption. You go to the
supermarket around here, right here in Bucks County. Words, I
always saying, oh I'm here in Bucks County. Listen, I

(30:11):
go to the stores, I go everywhere. I please pitch
you right up there, I man, I don't do it anymore.
But and nobody knows who the hell he is, because
you know what, Scott shows up. He shows up at
the last minute. He's nowhere around in the primaries. He
didn't stand up for any of the American first you know,
he stood up for the crooky Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick that
the girl was just mentioning about. That's who he stood

(30:32):
up for. Okay, it's been dishonest the entire time. And
I got to go because my husband he can't take
it anymore, me can I But thanks for having me
in here, and I'll talk to you no time.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I'll have another space of that.

Speaker 21 (30:43):
I've got tons I have that huge files on this Scott.
You know, listen people that are talking. I'm hearing a
lot of really great stuff, even by people who maybe
are for Scott.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 21 (30:57):
It's we individually have to take responsibility. We can't allow
anybody to say I'm going to come in and I'm
going to save you, because that's just not true. And
he's not going to save anybody. He's going to be
lucky if you can save himself by the time it's
all done, because he truly has caused a ton a
ton of damage and real harms to people and on

(31:18):
personal level, on personal levels, and I'll get into that
on my own space sometimes. Thanks so much, Brandon, Thanks
so much, Derek, Thanks Shelford's space. And I'm going to
go down to the listener. I'm out of here. Thanks by.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Chel Do you want to let Matthew skip the line
or do you want to It's up to you.

Speaker 8 (31:40):
Well, that's up to you this year, thanks honey.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well, no, I know, but I'm more here to kind
of provide commentary and ask questions and stuff.

Speaker 16 (31:51):
If you want to tell you a special treatment just
because of his viewing opinion, my.

Speaker 8 (31:56):
Thought diligent, diligent tru I had several times already. We
finally got him back up while we let Digit.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Go and then yeah, he was earlier, So yeah, I.

Speaker 22 (32:08):
Was literally gonna hand it over to Diligen just because
he worked with him recently.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
So I think probably should take precedent.

Speaker 23 (32:19):
Sorry, I have movers here right now, and so I'm
actually I'm in the space while they're pulling a dresser
out of my bedroom. Anyways, they showed up right as
I was on stage last time. So anyways, my point is,
first off, let's just do a little matt.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Okay, isn't early vout action a pack is a political pack?
Yes or no?

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Is are political packs regulated heavily by the sec FBC,
I believe, so.

Speaker 23 (32:51):
Okay, So that means that all of the funds that
the early Vout Action received have to be accounted for it.
That's not Scott Prest's money. That's early about actions money.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Correct. Correct, Sorry, I can unmeet my mic.

Speaker 23 (33:09):
Okay, So I think so because I keep hearing you say,
you know, how are many millions of dollars were voted
in conjunction with Scott Presler. But again I think that's
misleading because Scott Presler didn't received millions of dollars. Early
vout action received millions of dollars, and those funds are
strictly regulated. All of that money has to be accounted
for in salaries and expenses, all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Can we agree on that we can?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I never said that Scott collected that money. To be clear,
I have mentioned during the space many times. So since raised,
I said raised, I may have said Scott raised or
early voute action raised, I did, by no means meant
to imply that he kept that money.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad that we're making that distinction.

Speaker 23 (33:54):
Now another thing is, let's say, let's say he did
raise that money. That means that the campaign staff and
the staffers for early vot action those payouts should be
reported by to the FPC.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Correct. Yeah, I've read as FEC filing US.

Speaker 23 (34:10):
Okay, So if there's fifty employees working for six months
and there's fifty thousand votes in Pennsylvania, do you know
how many votes per employee that equals out to.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Joy?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Can you just make your point without asking questions?

Speaker 23 (34:24):
So well, because I'm leading, I'm walking the dog here.
Because it's not just you. There's two thousand people in
this space. So if there's fifty employees working for early
vot action in which you dis admitted, millions of dollars
have been spent there, it's regulated, all its documented. If
there's only fifty employees, which I actually think there's more
than that, I think it's closer to one hundred. By

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the time we got to the election. At the beginning,
I think it was much smaller. I think when I
was in Pennsylvania they had said that like six at
the beginning of six the six months or five months,
it was around a dozen, and then they exponentially increased
as they started to gain traction. Right, So let's just
say that if we averaged it out at fifty, that's

(35:08):
five dollars a day or five votes a day for
each employee. That's all an employee would have to bring.
If you're doing the math on fifty thousand votes. Now,
I'm not saying that there was fifty thousand votes. Are
you saying votes or registered voters? I'm just wanting to
registered voters. I'm sorry, that's what we're talking about, right,
voter registrations. So that's that's the name of the game here.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
I figured it was applied. Sorry I am, I'm a
little no no on the page. You're good, yeah yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 23 (35:33):
So so simple math, right, simple math is five registrations
a day per employee.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
And I can tell you from sitting.

Speaker 23 (35:43):
There for hours and this is documented, right, Like, if
you don't believe me, scroll.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Through my highlights. I did video spaces.

Speaker 23 (35:52):
On location while they were registering voters and Scott was there,
so like, the the notion that he would just make
an appearance is bullshit. Like there's literally probably at least
two or three spaces from either November or October, I
can't remember right now, but they're on my on my highlights.

(36:15):
To scroll down, they're in, they're you know, they're ordered
by date, and you can see that.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
You know, he was at a location for five hours.
So the the idea that he.

Speaker 23 (36:27):
Would just come and make a quick appearance, I'm sure
that was the case.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
You also have to remember that.

Speaker 23 (36:33):
Scott was driving from town to town to town to town.
How long does it take to drive through Pennsylvania? Well,
I learned the lesson the hard way. It takes about
three times longer to drive through Pennsylvania than it does
any other state of ever driven through because it's all
fucking winding highways and mountains and tunnels and all kinds
of crazy shit, so.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Like to act like, you know, oh, well.

Speaker 23 (36:57):
We always stayed for a minute. When I came out
of this space earlier, you know what I heard. I
heard people complaining that he wasn't giving them the attention
they thought they deserved. That was the number one thing.
The first guy, the first woman, she came up and
she said, oh, uh, you know, he should have known me.
But because he didn't react to that, I wanted to.
I thought something was off about him. Another individual said

(37:18):
that he came up to talk to Scott to complain
about uh pushing early voting right, and Scott didn't give
give him the time of day. I'm starting to catch
a pattern here. So I feel like there's a lot
of dragging, a lot of like hype here, but there's
not really a lot of substance. I see a lot
of people taking an opportunity to drag and bully somebody

(37:39):
without a lot of evidence.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
That's what I see. Nobody's being bullied, stop it. I mean,
we're people are asking for the Well, that's fine. I
appreciate that, but I don't know I think bully. Yeah,
I think the way you're I think it's a miscouategor organization.
And also, but you did say something that really interested.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
Me, does have a point.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
It does finish, Finny, this isn't your space.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
I thank you very much. Let him finish.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Thank you, diligent, you did. I didn't meet you, diligent.
You did say something interesting, you said everything is documented.
So all of the voter registrations are documented by Early
Vote Action.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Because that's all we're asking for. I'm just I'm trying
to understand why Early Vote Actions said that they registered
ten thousand voters and then eight days later Scott inflated
that number by five hundred percent and has never provided
any documentation. I just I'm curious. Can we see that.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
That was the mayor that made that statement.

Speaker 23 (38:41):
Was he was giving you the registrations that he had
counted while he had worked up to that point.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
He wasn't with Early Vote Action in that capacity.

Speaker 23 (38:49):
He ended up being Scott's director or like right hand
man or made uh right, like his main guy for
a little while there. But the ten thousand votes were
just the ones that were under him. It wasn't the
entirety of what early vote action had done there.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
No, I would you like me to post his tweet.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
It says or gwide, we cumulatively voted or registered as
an organization ten thousand, he said, the entire organ.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
But that's why he was Are you talking about Mayor Longo?

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yeah, he was the He was the Pennsylvania state director,
and on the day of voter registration closing, he said,
or Guide the entire organization registered ten thousand voters in
the twenty twenty four cycle. Eight days later, Scott and
played those numbers.

Speaker 23 (39:35):
He texted me an explanation. I'm going to read it
to you now. Hold on, okay, who texted You're just curious?

Speaker 4 (39:41):
DIDJD. Longo? I'm going to receive verbatim. Will he come in?
Because will he come into the space now? He says,
I don't want to give this guy attention, and that's
why I won't go on stage. I said, fine, I'll
do it. So my ten k figure is only what
I had collected via.

Speaker 23 (39:54):
Reports from June to November when I was state director.
That's not count with the people working under EVA before
I became State director in late June, or what our
affiliates earned by way of our partnerships and associations, So
it sounds like that they're also including any registrations that
might have been garnered from partnerships or associations. And if

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you do remember they were partnered with the America Pack
as well as atturning point action. I believe I'm just
speculating on that latter part.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
There's no need for me to clarify we wont blah
blah blah.

Speaker 23 (40:30):
And he also said, if you divide fifty k by
those eighty one people over six months, he's actually I
gave you a lower number.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I said fifty, saying eighty. He says, if you divide
fifty thousand votes over eighty one people over six months,
that's an average of only three point four voters for
our registered voters per day.

Speaker 23 (40:49):
Now, at our partnerships with groups like Benevedo'm probably buttraing
that and county GOP committees. That's an organization with coalitions
and partnerships that pulled together over one hundred people across
Pennsylvania and built an infrastructure for all of those people
and more to use, and then throw in our early

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vote action app as well.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Let me see h and then are the records? Will
you ask him if there are records? Is the organization
keep records?

Speaker 23 (41:21):
I'm I mean that's that would be like, that's kind
of implied.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
No, it's I mean it's yes or no. Does this
organization I mean affect them?

Speaker 24 (41:33):
Yeah, I guess yeah.

Speaker 16 (41:34):
Please you guys, curiosity, diligence, you met them the stuff earlier?

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Have have I haven't.

Speaker 7 (41:43):
For the record, I'll be transferred.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Have you read the FC reports of early vote action?
I haven't. I'm just curious if you have. I have
to a agree because they were sent to me.

Speaker 23 (41:52):
When so that guy, the guy was dragged, So this
isn't the first space like this, epstein that they they
were have spaces like this for like two weeks. This
is why I said he was getting bullied because this
is ongoing. I mean, the one guy plugging, he was
plugging a website something Scottpresler dot com.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I mean, come on, bro. But so, so when that happened,
So when that happened.

Speaker 23 (42:18):
People were asking me to go into the space, I
didn't want to bring my audience.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Okay, I have a sizable space and audience.

Speaker 23 (42:26):
And the reason why I don't do that because sometimes
claims aren't true or they're meant to just kind of
destroy credibility and just my presence or our presence if
you are, if you have a following at all, you
know you have to be responsible with that, right And
so I make sure that if I'm going to address it,

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I have all the information to go up there with.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
In that case, I didn't, I didn't know what they
were talking about.

Speaker 23 (42:54):
But but this case I do because I was there, right,
So I have seen the FCC filings. There are dozens
of people on their hand the amounts that got paid,
and not to mention, you know, they had a shit
ton of volunteers that didn't get paid at all. There
was a woman that I met at the Dragon Flea

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Market in Pennsylvania. It was an Amish flea market. This
is documented on video as well, and actually I believe
a space right where a video space, so it's like incontrovertible, okay,
where there was two volunteers there, one from Pennsylvania, I'm sorry,
three volunteers there, one from Pennsylvania, one from Louisiana, and

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another one from California that came there on their own dime.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
And we're sitting there all day and I mean all day.

Speaker 23 (43:43):
Like seven in the morning until nighttime when the place
closed registering voters.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
No, that one's going with me? Are you guys? This
beer is going Tony? Are you with us? Tony? I
couldn't get my mic off.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yes, I'm here.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
No worries.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
So you know you've tracked a lot of the data.
They're in Pennsylvania. Is what Diligen's saying. Is that tracking
for you? Does it make sense to you that EVA
registered fifty thousand voters INPA?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Is it possible? Yes? I would just diligent. I would
want to know.

Speaker 25 (44:20):
Our records are indicating that twenty seven thousand newly registered
voters in twenty twenty four came from paper. So my
question for EVA then is how are they tracking exactly
how many registrations are coming from them? How do they
track that? Because there's another thing they could have done
is a web API app they could have gotten access. Actually,

(44:40):
EVA could have gotten their own way to track exactly
how many people they would be registering. And I know
that Scott knows about this and yet he did not
do it, So that would be my other question for him.
And then also if you could just ask him why
does he block us instead of answering some of these Oh,
to be.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Fair, Scott was one texting me. It was Jad Longo.

Speaker 25 (45:03):
Okay, So why does Scott block all the election integrity
people on this platform when they've tried to ask honest, genuine,
open questions.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Gee, I wonder. I can't speak for it, but it
looks like, again, like this hasn't.

Speaker 23 (45:16):
Been exactly an objective, unbiased conversation. I've seen numerous examples
of people just using it as an opportunity to bash
somebody right because they don't agree with them on principle.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
A lot of these people up here, A lot of
these people up here, I'm gonna answer you the question.
A lot of these people up here are against early voting.

Speaker 23 (45:37):
Scott ran early voting in Pennsylvania, so there's a clear
bias in their arguments. They're mostly mad that he ran
early voting, But I would argue that the early voting
was effective. I can't tell you how many times that
I was at a polling station in Pennsylvania in the
weeks leading up to the election, and people would say,

(46:00):
we're here because the early vote at the ev AT
told us to be here and received text messages, reminders
for them to show up, and I believe I even
have some of that on video.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
I'm pretty much documented.

Speaker 25 (46:12):
There's no there's no question that he got people to
the polls.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Here's the concern.

Speaker 25 (46:17):
The data from Pennsylvania is showing us that only twenty
thousand newly registered voters actually showed up to vote. And
so when Scott is claiming victory for Pennsylvania with a
margin of one hundred to over one hundred thousand, vent.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
It wasn't only new registrations.

Speaker 25 (46:34):
Okay, so how are you tracking all of this? And
how does he to his donors show that his work
is effective? How is he able to how is he tracking?
That's what we want to see the White House.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Well, hold on, hold on, Matt, Like, first of all,
that's the dumbest response I've heard all not long. Number one.
Number two, Uh, well, why don't you let me talk
for five minutes?

Speaker 16 (46:56):
All right, so I'll go to ju that's fun the
power to do that, so really quick. I want to
say something. I actually did text and call people through
the early vote action myself for the record. Okay, Number two,
I just want to say that I think it's unfair
to say that this whole space is is biased. When
Brandon has made it a point to want to bring

(47:18):
up people who to defend Scott. I mean, if it
was a completely biased space, he would not allow people
to have a voice on the hearth. And I want
Scott to commit, But let us talk. You can stick
your hand up. I mean you're in Live just like
everybody else.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
I actually go ahead, Matthew, please go ahead and talk,
because I don't want it to be said that you
know you were being censored or suppressed. I please go
bullied or bullied, Matthew. The floor is yours.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
There's a w glitch. Matt you can meet your mic
can you hear me? Yes? Yes, thank you.

Speaker 26 (48:08):
I never said that anyone was being bullied. So I'm
a First Amendment absolutist. So let's let's be clear everybody.
Everybody has the right to say whatever they want. We
live in a free country, thank god, and we're not
in Europe, so we can all say whatever we like.
And as far as blocking people's concerned, you've all here

(48:29):
had trolls that you don't necessarily agree with or want
to block, and we've all blocked people. So First Amendment
I agree with well, you're going to block some people
that don't listen to what you have to say, or
you're just going to agree to disagree and finally block them.
You know, I think the whole blocking thing's blown.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Out of proportion.

Speaker 26 (48:47):
First of all, let me say, you know, I've never
taken a dime from early Vote Action. I've been a
volunteer volunteer, just like Diligent was just talking about. I
personally registered probably thousands of people, Okay, over the course
of doing what I was comfortable doing for early Vote Action.

(49:08):
But the truth of the matter is that Scott's a
human being, and do we disagree on certain things, absolutely,
one hundred percent. And would he tell you himself that
we disagree on some election integrity issues? One hundred percent.
So I would even go as far as to say
is he probably has regretted to this point some of

(49:29):
his election integrity statements. And I can tell you for
one hundred percent, I am one of those people who's
disagreed with him. Anybody who says that the twenty twenty
election was not stolen is a fool, because clearly, clearly
it was. And as far as the cheating afterward twenty
twenty two was also problematic for us as Republicans.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Because of the cheating. So let's be clear.

Speaker 26 (49:52):
You know, some of his statements on those things have
not been great, you know, and we disagree on those things.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
But as far as enthusiasm.

Speaker 26 (50:01):
As far as registering voters, first of all, you have
to be registered in order to vote, So let's stop
playing this game about oh, registrations do this and that
and the other thing is like.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Early vote action.

Speaker 26 (50:12):
The people who were employed and at the end it
was close to one hundred, okay, because I was there
the whole from the beginning, and I'm telling you right now,
the number increased to whatever it was originally, like you know,
and it was close to around one hundred people. And
the money was spent, and a lot of the money
was spent on you know, technologic technology and things that

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cost a lot of money.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
And you know, the notion that you know, the the that.

Speaker 26 (50:41):
Scott was buying you know, houses with the money is ridiculous.
If you look at the SEC filing, you'll see clearly
that Scott never took a dime from the pack, okay,
And so well, you know what brand in all honesty,
it was, it was insinuated and insinuating, as you know,

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in politics and in social media, is just as good
as as as saying it out right.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
So the fact that the matters, That's why it was insinuated.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
But the fact of the matter is he never took
a dime. Person, I'm saying he didn't take a dime
from the packet.

Speaker 16 (51:23):
Insinuating is insinuating, And so if we're going to say that,
then insinuating that one person won an entire state is
also just as bad.

Speaker 26 (51:30):
I don't I don't agree. I don't agree with that,
and he never he never said that. You know, this
is the other misnomer. I I don't look. The other
thing that Scott and I will will probably agree on
at this point, maybe he could be a little more humble.
There's nobody's questioning whether he could be more humble or
more inclusive with.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Some of these things.

Speaker 26 (51:49):
But you have to understand, for all my friends that
don't understand Pennsylvania and also don't understand the twenty twenty
four election, the fact of the matter is if you
have a problem with embracing some of the GOP committees
of which I can't stand, and believe me, I'm like
public Enemy Number one with the PA goop. So I'm
no friend of the PA goop or the RNC. I'm

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a big critic of both. But the fact of the
matter is when the president of former president of the
United States, who's then currently running for the job, tells you,
guess what, folks, you all need to get along because
I want to get reelected, That's what freaking happens.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
And that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 26 (52:28):
So the fact of the matter is, does Scott have
to play nice with some of these gops?

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Absolutely do. I love it, absolutely not.

Speaker 26 (52:35):
But guess what order to get the vote turned out
in order to get these people moving.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
That was the order that came down from Donald Trump.

Speaker 26 (52:42):
And the fact of the matter is a lot of
the people that work for EVA and all the people
that we are friends with also work for Trump forced
forty seven and those people were also registering voters and
they were also turning people out. And believe me, not
only was it documented by diligent, it was documented by
people like me who are on the ground. That's the
reason we won in twenty twenty four. And this all

(53:06):
side so bullshit is unnecessary. And the other thing I'm
going to say this let me please finish. People don't
understand Pennsylvania. We have a Marxist who's in the governor's
spansion here in Pennsylvania. We don't hold the legislature, and
we have a two seat majority now in the Senate.
We can't pass election integrity laws. I would love to

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get rid of Acts seventy seven, which those of us
in Pennsylvania know gave us mail in balloting and the
Rhinos are the ones who gave it to us. I
agree one hundred percent. Do I want to get rid
of it? Yes, But until we get rid of it,
we have to play the game. And part of the
playing playing the game is getting involved, whether you like
it or not, in getting people out early, doing the

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things that we need to do at the county election boards.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
And that's just the reality of the situation on the ground.

Speaker 26 (53:57):
If you guys want to keep losing like the lust
in line case, be my freaking guest. And you guys
are crucifying the guy who is telling the state GOP
and the RNC. Hey, guys, you're gonna freaking lose in
Lancaster if you don't get your asses moving.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
And that's the freaking reality of it.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
So almost way to say, how come when Trump won
it was because of him? But when uh, when you
know what showed me the body?

Speaker 26 (54:22):
It showed me the video that says I Scott Presler
won all by myself.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Show me that video.

Speaker 27 (54:30):
One.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Yeah, you both don't need to scream, first of all,
but second of all, I mean we can literally show you, guys,
dozens and dozens and dozens of tweets of Scott saying
he delivered Pennsylvania. He delivered Pimplevy we it said we
Brandon says we regarding that, furthermore to the claim just
now that.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
In early voting and all of that.

Speaker 16 (54:51):
If if for the record, I agree, I'm I'm opposed
to it, but if it's gonna exist, might as well
use it. If there is one group in Pennsylvania, and
there's not one group that can take credit, there's not
one group, there's not one person that can take credit
other than President Trump himself who can take credit for
winning Pennsylvania. But if there is one group that could,
it would be Pennsylvania. Chase that knocked on over half

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a million doors in the state of Pennsylvania, not registering
a few thousand people at a gun show I'm sorry.
That's just unbelievable. And you know it's the sentiment, you know,
Matt is over. You're saying, we did this, we did this,
we did this, and that's why we won Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
No, the hell, I's not thank you for doing that.
That's awesome.

Speaker 16 (55:32):
It probably helped, but that is not the reason, the
singular reason.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
I did not say that.

Speaker 9 (55:38):
And guess what.

Speaker 26 (55:39):
Guess who I'm very good friends with. Also, I'm very
good friends with Cliff Maloney, and Cliff m. Maloney himself
will tell you that you can't do one without the other.
And that was the approach also by the President himself.
They wanted to register people and then they wanted to
turn them out by going and knocking on doors. And
that's what Trump forced forty seven also helped with. So
it was a combination. You didn't win the election without

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doing both. And if you doubt what I'm saying, call
the White House and ask the President himself, because he
will tell you exactly that.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
The data proves otherwise.

Speaker 16 (56:09):
If Tony has pointed out here, the margin of victory
was over one hundred thousand votes in Pennsylvania, and there
was roughly twenty some thousand people who were registered via paper,
which is the method of early vote actions.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
So just go ahead and say.

Speaker 26 (56:22):
It was not the only methods because we registered thouents
of people online.

Speaker 16 (56:26):
Also, goodness, gracious, man, listen, I haven't spoken hardly at
all this entire space because I've been listening to everybody,
which has been fun, it's been great. But I'm not
going to be interrupted over and over and over by
this guy of all people right now. So carry on, man,
this is something you again.

Speaker 8 (56:44):
Sorry, if you give me a moment, please, may I
remind everyone, would you all jump on the mic? It
gets jumbled and we lose the value of the conversation,
So if we can stick to one at a time, please,
that would be beneficial for the entire audience.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 25 (57:04):
So Derek to your point about Clift Maloney, and I'm
not throwing shade on him, but if we want to
really see if his method was effective, what we need
to do is get all the addresses for all the
doors that he knocked, and then we can compare that
and see how many male ballots were actually turned in
or how many voters actually came from those, And that's
how we can tell if that was effective, because I

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have data that.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Can make the argument that that wasn't effective either. But if.

Speaker 23 (57:30):
Early about Action or Flift Maloney or any of these
these voter registration coalitions or organizations, if they release their
lists and data, are those monetizable? Aren't those you know?
Aren't those are of their Aren't the proprietary in some regards?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
No?

Speaker 25 (57:51):
Not if you're if you're just knocking doors of registered
voters that you're getting from the GOP or the state
department a.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Situation with both poll is there? Yeah, yeah, that's what
I thought. That's what I thought. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (58:04):
So so so those lists, you know very well that
those lists aren't always easy to come by, especially accurate data, right, And.

Speaker 28 (58:12):
So what you're doing, what you're doing, what you are
doing is demanding that Scott for Early vo Action turn
over their information so that you can quote unquote audit
or verify it.

Speaker 23 (58:25):
However, if they do that, they're also giving away excuse me,
and they're also giving away like what could be proprietary
information that he either made promises that he wouldn't give out,
which I know he's done before.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Right when he gets that kind of information.

Speaker 23 (58:40):
One okay, one he gets it in good faith sometimes
and two uh, you know he may have had to
have purchased it, right.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
So so when you're saying that.

Speaker 23 (58:49):
You're like, oh, well, why will why won't he give
us these Why won't he give us this information? Well
you might as well go to any corporation or organization
and say, hey, I need your private data. Why won't
you give me your private data? I want to verify
that everything is on the up and up.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Oay, Well, of course maybe I misspoke.

Speaker 25 (59:08):
I don't care if he does the analysis. Just somebody
run analysis on all the doors you actually touched and
how many ballots came, because those are data that you
can look at and it hasn't been looked at or reported.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
That's all I'm saying, Jane, go ahead, go.

Speaker 17 (59:22):
Ahead, you guys, thank you so much for hosting this space.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
It's incredible.

Speaker 17 (59:29):
I just want to say, like, you know, before hopping
into this, like where I'm coming from, so I have
you know, I'm here to speak basically and just go
to registration. As somebody who's done the work for the
past ten years. You know, I've been a door door.
I've said at Evans, I've organized the largest registration drive

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in Las Vegas, which was featured on three public news stations,
not like just some online whatever off like three public
news stations. I coordinated directly with political campaigns for candidates
and political parties, the Republican Party, so like, this is

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real experience, And I think what a lot of people
are missing is that registering voters is not the same
thing as verifying the eligibility of the voters being registered.
That's the job of the Board of Elections. So if
someone writes the wrong version of their name, like John
instead of Jonathan, or if their address doesn't exactly match

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their drivers license or ID, or if the six looks
like a zero so they can be disqualified.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
It happens a lot.

Speaker 17 (01:00:43):
So no matter as hard as we push for perfection,
you know, people do make mistakes and that doesn't mean
it's fraud. It means we're humans. But I'm you know,
I'm not here choosing any side. I'm just trying to
be like the person that can explain exactly how this works.

(01:01:03):
I also had, you know, maybe I don't know if
I'm allowed to ask few questions, but there was someone
here I think it was audit the boat speaking on
how you know we can request data from these door
knocking situations. So I'm not sure if you're familiar with
how the DFP versus a GOP works on door knocking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
A lot of the the.

Speaker 17 (01:01:27):
GOP tends to use something called campaign Sidekick, and that
is like diligent. As much as I don't agree with
Diligent on a lot of things, I am agreeing with
him on this. It is technically considered proprietary information. And
one of the biggest things is the Democrat Party, you know,

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when they when you run for office, you're actually able
to keep your own private data. But the Republican Party,
the GOP, what it does is it withhold your data.
So after you run an all election, you're not allowed
to keep your own data.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Whether you're a.

Speaker 17 (01:02:05):
Party or a committee or a pack or whatever, you're
not allowed to maintain that unless you're like an organization
hired by you know, it's like it's like detailed breakdowns.
But that is proprietary information, and that is sold, Like
people will sell voter data data for ten cents per voter,

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so they're not about just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Handed out for for you to people.

Speaker 17 (01:02:31):
I actually ran in twenty twenty two just to get
free voter registration data, because in Nevada you just paid
two hundred bucks and get access to all the data
for the entire year, and if you were paying for
with a company, you'd be spending ten cents per voter.
So this, you know, if you're willing to put down
like hundreds of thousands of dollars, then yeah, I definitely

(01:02:55):
encourage you to go to lawsuits and try to buy
out this data from other people. But I just don't
think that's really going to be worth the money.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
You could.

Speaker 17 (01:03:04):
You could spend that money to get more people registered
and knock more doors. But I'm here Basically, I'm saying
I'm here for any questions you have about footo registration.
I've been doing this for a years, standing out in
one hundred and twenty two degree weather for ten hours
at a time.

Speaker 23 (01:03:22):
I just want to say thank you for letting me
come up and viscarrate your narrative.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Have a good night.

Speaker 22 (01:03:26):
Wait, Diligent, damn it. I wanted to ask something really
quick because Diligent worked with uh Scott in uh what
is it? In registering the Amish, so we could have
gotten some clarity about some.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
Of your claims for him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Of course, he left, well, what are my claims?

Speaker 22 (01:03:45):
Well, he said something about like, I guess it seemed
like you had a problem with what he said about
bringing out the Amish community. I know that diligence did
work with him doing that, so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
It would have been nice for that.

Speaker 22 (01:03:59):
But like I guess, I feel like a lot of
people fortunately, and I don't think you're trying to do this.
I think you're coming from a seems like you're a
friend who is concerned that your friend might be becoming more establishment,
which Scott, to me, has always been a little more
establishment tee than I've liked. But I put it away
because he seems like he's effective. But so I don't know,

(01:04:20):
I just want to get to the bottomless. I like
both of you guys. This is something to me that
you know, I do think there's election New Jersey and
people don't want this to blow up until that's done.
So many other things going on, But I don't know.
It just seems like there's some sour grapes. It seems
like people are a lot of people like, oh he
blocked me, Oh he didn't retweet.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Me, you know what I mean?

Speaker 22 (01:04:40):
So I guess I don't know it seems like your
claims though, are that you know Scott's a little bit
of a fraud, are taking too much credit, which, again,
in my humble opinion, we follow Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
He takes his credit for literally everything.

Speaker 22 (01:04:54):
I love the guy, but like, I don't know, big
egos is kind of our politics, right, So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
I understand.

Speaker 22 (01:05:00):
It feels like maybe your friend didn't stand close to
you during JA six, maybe you didn't want to get
wrapped up in it, But like, I don't know, this
seems like a lot of misunderstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Do you hear how many excuses you're making for him?
I mean that was just like a laundry list of excuses.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Know you that well, But I have quolity for a while, so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Like, no, no, no, it's that's that's why it's not I
don't I mean, I'm not saying I don't care if
you don't like me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I don't mean it like that. But what I'm saying is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Like it's and I don't mean this disrespectfully, it's it's weird,
like what the questions that we're asking. I think any
logical person would look at this and be like, yeah,
that's that's that's strange, like, how do you increase your
numbers by five hundred percent in eight days with no explanation?
Why are you blocking people who ask questions? And you're

(01:05:45):
acting like the people who are asking questions are weird
or wrong and the person who's weird. I mean, that's
objectively yeah, But Vinny, that's that's objectively weird behavior.

Speaker 22 (01:05:56):
It's weird to see something to block people who question you. Well,
maybe may like that's the thing. I feel like a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
After you've single handedly taken credit for for Donald Trump,
So like, I mean, do you believe that Donald Trump
would have lost Pennsylvania?

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Is that what you think?

Speaker 22 (01:06:13):
I know that my county only went by like two
hundred and thirteen votes, you know what I mean? And
Scott was here and people worked for him were here,
So I don't know, to be to be honest, things
were really close and hard, and you know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
So he won by over one hundred thousand votes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
Some people are thinking, but Benny Vinnie is Trump won
Pennsylvania by over one hundred thousand votes and that wouldn't
have happened except for Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
No, what's a guy?

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
I see?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
That's what I mean. This is like an ego thing.
This is so no, I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
I feel like I kind of understand why you're bending
over backwards to defend behavior that's not defensible.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Donald Trump not take credit for every little thing and
not say Donald Trump is the president.

Speaker 22 (01:06:55):
But still, dude, there's so many people to think, it's
so many people to to do things. That's our point
to help people. Yeah, that's our point. No, and I
get that, But that doesn't mean that he's solely responsible
for mail in voting. I think he has a very
different opinion. I don't like mail in voting, but I
also understand the publicing parties like problem many times was
that we would go we don't like mail in voting

(01:07:16):
and then wouldn't do it. And I think Scott's just asked,
having a conversation and just trying to do it reflective
or not, and so like, I don't know, I just
feel like a lot of people are throwing sour grapes
on him that he doesn't deserve.

Speaker 7 (01:07:27):
Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:07:28):
I just I like both you guys, I really do,
and I just think this is something that we should
You know, there's a lot of people up here who have.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Access that grind with him too, that are coming up.

Speaker 29 (01:07:37):
It seems like, hey, Denny, I believe I believe that
a lot of people have come up to advocate for
Scott also, and I have to say, Derek nor Brandon
have solicited those negative responses against Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 8 (01:07:56):
I'm not saying, and I think that you should we
you know, recognize that if you don't mind, because that's
what I'm hearing. And again, like Derek, I've been very quiet.
I have no skin in this game. I like both people,
and I'm helping run a space. But now we've got

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a ton of hands and requests and and I believe
that your argument is just waning a little bit.

Speaker 22 (01:08:26):
My My only argument is that guys, we've got to
be generous with Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
And what's it called.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
I respect brain, I respect Scott.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
I just think we understand that.

Speaker 8 (01:08:35):
And now you're being repetitive and we move on, and
you believe the mic at least four times already a
lot you've got people waiting, and.

Speaker 22 (01:08:46):
So you just got you guys don't want to let
someone who but you've been talking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Denny, Denny, I'm sorry real quick. I mean you said
we have to be generous with Scott. I mean literally,
people gave him credit for the presdential election. They gave
millions of dollars. And again I don't care about this.
I want to be really clad. I've made really clear
I don't whatever people want to spend their money on,

(01:09:11):
they're entitled to. But the fact is they bought him
a house, they bought him a car, they bought like
I think people have been very generous with Scott. And
I think the idea that I mean, he hasn't gotten
enough generality for registering voters and that we're not even
allowed to ask a question like how many was it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Are we allowed to actually know? I think that's fine.
I think that's all good.

Speaker 22 (01:09:32):
I just feel like he probably feels kind of attacked
with everything that's going on here.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
If he answered questions, he wouldn't feel attacked. If it
feels like an attack, which I don't think that it is.
It got to this point by blocking people who ask questions.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah no, maybe maybe maybe it does.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
The thing is I or just being transparent, I mean
just being transparent, and then you won't and he's welcome
to come here, and I said, I'm not going to
let anybody scream at him or go after it.

Speaker 8 (01:09:57):
I just want to ask for legal action is in
the space and have been.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Who that is welcomed on the state.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Is that him or is that somebody else?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 24 (01:10:07):
Okay, I'm going to utilize my National treasurer of walk
Away executive authority is so, I just want to correct
something that was stated. I don't know who asked, who said,
provide the data so we can properly track. I'm the
executive director for the Delaware Republican Party, so I oversee

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anything that happens when it comes to data, especially when
it comes down from the RNC.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Could you say it's proprietary data. Sure.

Speaker 24 (01:10:35):
However, simply knocking on the door and getting a registered
voter's address and supplying a first name, last name, and
address is not. Because any person can go to their
Secretary of State or Department of Elections in their state.
Depending in Delaware, our secretary of state is it involved
in any elections and ask for voter registration information how

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many people registered to vote since January one up until
this date, and they will provide that information. Some states
require a fee, some states don't and it's just solely
to grab that information.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
My point here is whoever we.

Speaker 24 (01:11:15):
Can request the data from, they can supply the data
of the doors that they knocked on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Give that to whoever.

Speaker 24 (01:11:21):
Who wants to run an analysis to determine whether or
not any of those people or if all of those
people came out and vote. It isn't a proprietary data
information in any way, shape or form. Anyone can get
this information if they go to their Department of Elections
or Secretary of State's office and pull that info. And
I just wanted I understand what Jane said. I understand

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you've been involved for a lot longer. However, things have
changed drastically across the country when it comes to requesting
data specifically like this, we're not asking whether or not
they're a Rotary Club member or if they're a member
of the NA That might be proprietary data because that's
consumer data. One thing the Early Vote Action app. The
Delaware Republican Party has its own app as well. It

(01:12:03):
is the same exact app, it's just branded for us.
All of that data in those apps come from l
To Data Company. If anyone that works in politics is
familiar with L two that comes directly from voter databases
that has supplied to them from the Secretary of States
or Department of Elections and Consumer Data. You can get
anything that relates to voting for free from L two.

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You can't get any of the other proprietary data information
like whether or not they're a black voter, or whether
or not they vote in short sleeve shirts.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
You can't pull that information, but the voter information you can.
And I just wanted to make that point. Thank you,
Thank you, Nick.

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
Sell.

Speaker 8 (01:12:52):
Okay, set up jump in there.

Speaker 17 (01:12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:12:57):
The only thing I don't understand, I'm kind of like
several people for I'm kind of in the middle on this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
I've had some dealings with with both of y'all.

Speaker 30 (01:13:05):
And had personally mostly positive stuff. But you know, there's
something I've noticed, and this is why I encourage people
to listen and have the good conversations, have the questions.
Asking questions is not a problem, you know, it's it's
like Tucker Carlson said, the questions people tell you shouldn't ask,

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or exactly the questions that have to be asked, and
you know, and so the things Brandon is bringing up
here are stuff that does need answered. You know, if
you're seeing one set of data and eight days later
that data is being inflated by eight times, that's a
question and something that the person should want to answer.

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Shouldn't be blocking people, shouldn't be disappearing. And one thing
I will give Brandon, because I've seen space after space
where people have had questions about stuff, either brand and
said or stuff Brandon's been accused of.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
He's come in and answered those questions.

Speaker 30 (01:14:05):
I've personally been in there and seen it, and that's
what someone should want to do, especially if it's quite
major questions about data related to the election, and it's
supposed to be an election you care about and you
worked so hard about, and about an organization that you built.

Speaker 24 (01:14:24):
So you know.

Speaker 30 (01:14:26):
To me, it is a little suspect that instead of
answering questions, when you start blocking people, you don't show
up to answer those questions. You send your Surrey gets
in or your Surry gets choose to come in instead
of you could be either one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
But to these questions.

Speaker 30 (01:14:44):
So I encourage people, even if you're best buddies with stop,
listen to the questions, watch Brandon's video, and then pay attention.
And like Brandon said, I have seen Brandon he's wrong before,
you know, but you know, and I'm sure in this

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case he gets proven wrong, they'll do exactly what he said,
you know. And the last thing I'll end on because
I've been in spaces where this has happened as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Like folks have.

Speaker 30 (01:15:18):
Said, there has been questions about you know, Scott's methods before.
I have seen some pretty big hitters that I respect.
Question about the just generically registering Republican voters not pushing
anything in the primaries, like people brought up, that has

(01:15:39):
been a major question, and it's kind of an establishment question,
you know, so there, you know, it's not like things
were perfect in sunshine and the shining you know, ray
on the hill, and people want to act like that.
They want to put people on pedestals, and we can't
do that anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
That's part of how we we we have.

Speaker 30 (01:16:01):
Lost so many elections over over the time of putting
people on these damn pedestals and not wanting to question anything.
And I think we have figured out we can't have
sacred calsing. And if we can get through these, if
there are questions, the questions get answered effectively, you're actually
stronger on the other end, and I think Trump has

(01:16:23):
proved that, you know pretty much. I think anybody in
this conversation is a backer of Trump. And there's one
thing we know about Trump. He will answer a question,
he will defend himself, and he is stronger almost every
time on the on the tail end of that. And
that's what we have to do. So that's just my

(01:16:43):
two cents on this. Just be open minded and conversate
about it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:51):
Thanks, FTA. I wanted to say it was very nice
to meet you in western North Carolin.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Yes, it was nice meeting you as well.

Speaker 8 (01:17:04):
All right, I'd like to bring in the long raccoon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Well, I appreciate it, Thank you very much. I want
to say quickly, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
I don't I have no idea what you're about to say,
but I just want to say your name makes me giggle.
I've seen it several times and I was just like, sorry,
I have no idea what side the dial on or
what you're about to say, but go ahead.

Speaker 31 (01:17:26):
Well, well, my name is Jeff O'Donnell, and I'm at
you for a long time, Brandon. And you know what
you I've never seen you stray from your principles and
put you at the in the top percentile of everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 31 (01:17:41):
And I also appreciate that you've let people of both
sides speak today, although frankly after hearing some of them,
a little concerned that he's going to be elected pope
in a week or so.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
But seriously, the issue for me.

Speaker 31 (01:17:57):
And I've been I've been a value waiting and analyzing
any data on the election for four years and of
published a lot of stuff. But it's not about me, though,
I've Anyone who doesn't know that early voting is a
avenue for fraud hasn't spent two hours of looking in research.

(01:18:22):
Anyone who knows that registering low propensity voters uh isn't
an avenue for fraud hasn't looked at the data.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
And I'm only talking about my data. I'm talking about others.

Speaker 10 (01:18:33):
Uh.

Speaker 31 (01:18:34):
That is the danger in my eye here. He has
called of personality. He has he has a voice that
people listen to, and we've heard that in the various
people who've come out, and that is to me the
danger here.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
And and so you know.

Speaker 31 (01:18:51):
The fact that he is you know, registering, you know
you know all these Okay, fine, I want every I
want everyone to vote who wants to vote.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
Believe me.

Speaker 31 (01:19:01):
However, registering people who are unlikely to vote is just
an avenue for fraud, and early voting is in the
avenue for fraud. And since Scott is in favor of
both of those, it is a natural question to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Ask him why.

Speaker 31 (01:19:15):
And and you know, not only myself, somebody said, oh,
we're all our egos something in or hurt because he
won't talk to us.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
If it was just me, I'd be like, yeah, fine,
who am I I don't care.

Speaker 31 (01:19:26):
But there are dozens and dozens of people who have
spent years trying to figure out what happened in these elections,
crunching numbers, analyzing data, traveling the world, talking to people,
and and Scott will not debate it because that is
how you know, if you have a suspicion, okay, about someone,

(01:19:47):
how do you get rid of suspicion?

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
You get rid of it with dialogue, You get rid
with with UH talking.

Speaker 31 (01:19:54):
And the refusing to talk UH is such a red
flag that that is what made me. You know, initially
I was the same way as other people have said
they were initially in favor of what he was doing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Yeah, go go. Yeah. I heard the stuff about Scott. Yeah,
great story.

Speaker 31 (01:20:10):
But the more I found out and the more the
positions he took, I felt were dangerous. Not if he
wasn't dangers, if what it was doing wasn't a danger,
let him do it, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Let him raise your voters, that's fine.

Speaker 31 (01:20:22):
But you know when he's up, you know he's he's
a recognized figure now nationwide telling people to vote, telling
Republicans to vote early. That is a clear and present danger,
and that is why we have to address it. But
he refuses to do that, and and that that, to
me personally, is the big problem.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
I will step down. I just I wasn't going to.

Speaker 31 (01:20:47):
I was happy just listening, but my blood pressure got
to a point where I had to speak.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
So thank you very much for letting me now, sir.

Speaker 8 (01:20:57):
Just as recall we had you on shell Shop Tampirate
Radio and you did the symposium, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
Sir, I did the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty
three ones.

Speaker 8 (01:21:11):
Yes, so you know, and you've analyzed all of this data.

Speaker 31 (01:21:17):
Yeah, I mean I've adalyzed thousands of cast fold records
and several like Mesa County, you know, the image and
probably half the country's voter roles as well. So yeah,
I do think that I could say I have a
infeigned opinion.

Speaker 8 (01:21:36):
Yes, sir, I believe you do. Thank you, and so I.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
Can corroborate that I've known Jeff a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
He's very hard worker, does great work.

Speaker 25 (01:21:43):
I know most of the people that are speaking on here,
you guys are amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:48):
That whole team was fantastic. I believe Colonel Shank was
part of that team. Correct, that's correct, All right, Okay, Gail,
you've been waiting for a little while. You ready to
serve Brandon.

Speaker 32 (01:22:03):
Well, I thank you very much for hosting this, Brandon,
and you know I can Jeff O'Donnell number one is
really one of the most foremost experts on this data
and that I know in the field, and you know,
although there's a lot of people out there that is
really what the cruxt of this issue is is that

(01:22:26):
when we talk about early vote action, we're talking about
early vote cheating. And it seems that we should all
agree that we all want our ballots to be counted
as cast and what happens when we get low propensity

(01:22:47):
voters onto the voter rules the database and especially early,
the database administrators, they get access to this data early,
and then they can use this data to create algorithms,
and they use those voter roles to vote. If you

(01:23:10):
don't vote, they vote for you. So and this is
exactly what's happening over and over and over again in
multiple states all across America. And so my concern which
I have also spoken to Scott personally, and he was

(01:23:34):
here in Arizona and at an event promoting this and
and I had a private meeting with him, and I
explained this to him directly, and his response was to
as many other experts that have done tens of thousands
of analysts of data from multiple states across this country

(01:24:00):
have said to him that this early voting is dangerous.
And what we have here is that if he would
literally turn this around and say vote action instead of
early vote.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Action, we could support him.

Speaker 32 (01:24:18):
I even suggested that to him, it's the early vote
that is the problem. And I heard, I think it
was diligent, say, well, we have to play the game.
Playing the game is the fraud. This is the propaganda
that they want us to buy into. This is not

(01:24:40):
what we need. What we need is people to show
up and vote. When President Trump beat Pillary Clinton in
twenty sixteen, it's because we beat the algorithm.

Speaker 26 (01:24:55):
I have.

Speaker 32 (01:24:56):
I'm from Maricopa County, Arizona, and I have looked at
the data and much of that data did come from
Jeff O'Donnell as well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
And we have seen the algorithms.

Speaker 32 (01:25:06):
We saw what happened with Carrie Lake multiple times where
they literally take the data, especially when you have three candidates,
they'll take the votes from one of the candidates and
then they move that to the candidate that they want
to win. So if you do vote, they can do

(01:25:27):
it that way. And we also know when they're grabbing
from voter roles. Many of these voter roles are co
mingled with multiple states through the ERIC system, and so
what they're doing is they can even take vote voter
rolls from other systems across state lines. So the corrupt

(01:25:51):
adding more voters to the voter roles does not necessarily
help anybody but the database administrator. We have many laws
on the books that are not being enforced right now.
In Maricopa County, we still have the database administrator. His
name is Brian Ramirez. He is still the database administrator

(01:26:15):
that we have on videotape who we caught deleting election
files after using his security badge from his supervisor going
into the server room on a company, which is all
against the law. And he is still employed to this

(01:26:36):
day in Maricopa County as the database administrator. And you
want to wonder why Carrie Lake lost. People aren't losing
because of the lack of the vote, which I think
Tony had mentioned earlier. You know, we have a ninety
four percent voter turnout. This is not about voter turnout.

(01:26:57):
I've heard Scott talk about that too. I believe Wisconsin
voter turnout voter turnout. This is not about voter turnout.
The people are voting. The machines are what need to go.
And we do have laws on the books that nobody
is enforcing. And we all know that the judicial system

(01:27:20):
is corrupted, and we have lawyers that are in fear
of bringing this forward. But we are not helping the
cause by bringing early vote here. We need to show
up on election day and that must be the common
message showing on election day. This early vote action database too.

(01:27:45):
I believe Diligent was really very protective of that database. Again, Yeah,
it's all about the money in that regard. Again, I
don't care bringing the money. Databases are worth money though. Okay,
so he wants to protect that. But the bottom line
is that they're doing all of this to increase their database.
But in the meantime, these database administrators are getting the

(01:28:09):
data early and we are losing elections. And by the way,
elections just because President Trump won doesn't mean that other
down ballot races were not lost or stolen. They can
pick and choose, and they do pick and choose which ones.

(01:28:31):
It's only a computer program away, that's it. But when
you show up on election day, you have more of
an opportunity to beat the algorithm. And I believe that's
what happened in many cases, and in other cases we

(01:28:51):
have situations where people have lost solely because of floated
voter rolls and database administrators and whatever else is going on.
But we do know that there are algorithms and Jack O'Donnell,
if you have not seen his work, you should look
at his work. He has found patterns via the cast

(01:29:12):
voat records of the same exact algorithms working in multiple
counties across the state. Our message needs to be one
hundred percent to get rid of these machines. And if
we don't do it before the primary, I'm afraid we
are going to be in for a rough whatever going forward,

(01:29:34):
America is going forward into an abyss. But I do
believe that we can unite around that. And I want
to say one more thing. This is exactly what we
need to do, is we need to be able to
speak and expose this type of propaganda that early voting

(01:29:57):
equals a good thing because they have the money and
they're sending out text. And one guy said, you know,
we only showed up and voted early because we got
the text to show up and vote early. Many people
are getting this message, you know, because they've got the
money behind them that it was voting early. President Trump

(01:30:18):
was promoting voting early. Carien Leake was promoting voting early.
To the Trump for forty seven promoting voting early, while
all of us grassroots people that are out there, the
database administrators and election experts that have been looking at
this data are screaming from the tops of the roofstops,

(01:30:41):
don't do it. And I believe that's the frustration that
we have here right now. Thank you very much for
your time.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Thank you, Gail.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
That was actually very informative. A lot of what you said,
we really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
And before we move.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
On to additional hands, I wanted to speak too, because
this has been a law in space and we've covered
a lot of stuff. I just wanted to say, you know,
part of the reason. There were many reasons why I
put this video out today and a lot of reasons
why I wanted to have the space, most of which
we've covered, but you know, some of them too are
it's important for people to remember. And it's possible too

(01:31:16):
that there are people who maybe they just started following
politics two or three years ago and didn't really know
where I started when I started walk Away seven years ago.
You know, but I get all the time from people,
you know, what are you and Scott collaborating? When are
you and Scott working together? We want to see the
two of you team up. What you're both doing is amazing.
So number one, I wanted to let people know who

(01:31:38):
maybe only fell into politics a few years ago. We did,
like I did, work with Scott a lot between twenty
eighteen and the end of twenty twenty. And as I
said in that video, and I tried to demonstrate, and
Scott was not the only one, but it meant a
lot to me to be able to use the platform
that I had, And I don't just mean like a Twitter,

(01:32:00):
social media, but I mean literally doing live events with Walkway,
Marxist rally, college tours, all this stuff we do.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
I've never made that about me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
If you go back and you look back at all
the work Walkways done, I've always brought a team of speakers.
I've tried to kind of mix it up. I've tried
to make it a mix of people that are well known,
people that are up and coming, people that I think
are talented. And I worked with Scott a lot between
twenty eighteen twenty twenty. I can honestly say there was
no reciprocation. That's fine. I didn't expect any at the

(01:32:31):
time because he was kind of a solo act at
the time, and he wasn't even really I guess he
was doing some voter registration, but it was kind of
a combination doing his clean upst and things like that.
But I feel truly burned by this person, and I
at this point, all signs for me are pointing towards
that this is a person a very low character, low integrity,

(01:32:53):
and as I said in the video, I don't think
that he's brave, honest kind For whatever the other thing
I've said, I don't remember, so, you know, it was
important to me to put this out, to get it
off of my chest and off of my shoulders, because
I don't want to keep having to bite my tongue
every time somebody's like, why.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Aren't you working with Scott? Oh, you and Scott should
get together. I did.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I went above and beyond to work with Scott, and
I feel like I was horrifically.

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Burned by a person of very low character, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
And if that opinion ever changes, if he ever gives
me any reason to change my mind, I would absolutely
revisit the idea of working together again in the future.
But honestly, I don't believe he'll even ever respond to
my video or that this space happened.

Speaker 4 (01:33:40):
I believe he'll pretend like it never happened. What would
you say the worst thing he did, you Grant?

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I think the worst thing was sitting there silently while
I was being accused of being a rat and a snitch,
and he was one of the people I was accused
of turning in, and he was one of the only
people who didn't say a word in my defense who
was on the list of names of people that I
was accused of turning in. He sat there and he
watched what was happening. I'm not saying he had nothing

(01:34:07):
else going on in his life. I'm not saying he
was sitting there with a bull of popcorn in a
recliner chair non stop watching it. But he was definitely
aware that that was happening to me, and he was
He absolutely could have come forward and said, hey, guys,
like my name was on that list of names, and
like Brandon did not turn me in. That did not happen. C. J.
Pearson spoke up in my defense. Ali Alexander spoke up

(01:34:28):
in my defense. In the Chapian spoke up in my defense.
Ashley Saint Clair. I mean, there were about two dozen
people whose names were on that list, and I think
Scott and two other people, who, by the way, are
awful people, but that's beside the point. Sat back and
said absolutely nothing.

Speaker 22 (01:34:47):
Can I you just one question? That in appropriate, but
I think it does help. Sure, Have you guys ever
been in a romantic relationship or anything? I think I
just want to get it out there because.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
So people don't think no, no, no, no, no honestly no nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
No.

Speaker 22 (01:35:02):
I'm just trying to be trying to be fully transparent
because I feel like this is gonna No.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
I don't think there's anything wrong. No, I think it's
a good question. Blah blah blah, and like no, I
think I know. I actually think it's a really good question,
and I'm glad you asked it. Absolutely not I I
I could not speak towards whether or not he's ever
been attracted to me. Uh and I've never been attracted
to him, and our relationship was always completely just it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
I'm actually laughing because.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
I I don't even I just don't think of him.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
That that way.

Speaker 33 (01:35:36):
Do you ever think that might be the reason why
you must it was like avoided or something.

Speaker 22 (01:35:47):
I'm just trying to figure out, maybe, you know, I
I always feel like, what would be.

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
Fear's while your friend went through all this?

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Yeah, no, that's that's that's a good that's a good break.

Speaker 22 (01:36:07):
I understand a friend you felt like a friend should
come out and say something.

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
I understand that. I understand.

Speaker 16 (01:36:12):
We can I mean, do you think that a friend
should could should defend somebody in that situation as well.

Speaker 10 (01:36:19):
Yeah, no, I do.

Speaker 22 (01:36:20):
But also I can understand if someone more has different
rationalities why they wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:36:25):
And so I'm not someone who I try to be
generous with everyone on our side. I don't come from
a place in trying to.

Speaker 16 (01:36:30):
I get that, I get that, but but no, I mean,
I know, I mean if if if somebody is a friend,
then and and there, I mean, it's one thing if
if they're a friend and their name does not come
up specifically for to in to to kind of inject
themselves in that, I mean I would regardless. But yeah,
you know, in this situation, his name was mentioned in

(01:36:54):
this and he still did not speak up. That to me,
that is very very low cair here. And it's not
a top of friend that I would want. And that's
not the top of person that I would say deserves any.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
Sort of generosity that regardless of anything else.

Speaker 16 (01:37:10):
That's my opinion, and I wanted to point out of
the reason I raised my hand is that I have.

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Not heard a single person.

Speaker 16 (01:37:18):
Who's come up here during this long space who watched
Brandon's video and has come up here and had any
sort of rebuttal to the claims made in the video.
All I've heard people say is well he registered voters.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
We I get that.

Speaker 16 (01:37:34):
Guess what, the person that works at my DMV registered
more voters.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
I'm not giving them any credit for winning the election either.

Speaker 16 (01:37:40):
For the record, So I just if somebody wants to
come up and defend these actions, I would please ask
that you watch the video.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
That's what kind of this is all.

Speaker 16 (01:37:53):
About, and and and and make.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
A rebuttal to the claims that Brandon has made. I
think that would be a good starting Thank you, Derek.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
And one more thing I'd like to say to you too, Vinny,
you were asking you know, first of all, when you
talk about the worst things.

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
He did, he didn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
I mean, this was like death by a thousand paper
cuts of omission. It's all the things he had an
opportunity to do and didn't do. And one of the
other examples, and this I really honestly there are times
because I'm actually a person who I don't want to
get it wrong and I don't want to falsely.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
I know what it feels like to be falsely accused.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
And I spend a lot of years like playing over
these moments in my head, being like, am I misunderstanding?

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
Is it possible?

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
But the one thing that happened that to me is
proof positive that he is exactly the person that I
now believe that he is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
Was i'd already.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
You know, we had texted back and forth several times
over the course of the four years after January sixth,
and I had told him specifically because I told him
to he, you know, talked on the phone about a
month or two after I got arrested.

Speaker 4 (01:39:03):
He said, well, if there's.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Anything I can do, and I said to him, yes,
there's one thing you can do. I said, you know,
I'm getting the shit kicked out of me on social media.
No one's standing up for me. Would you say something
positive about me? He said, yes, I will. He didn't. Okay, fine,
he didn't do it. A whole year went by. He
messages me again, and I told him very explicitly. I
was like, dude, I was like, you know, I'm going

(01:39:25):
through like an absolute living hell, and nobody's standing up
for me. The people who I thought were my friends
are sitting there silently. And his response to me was, well,
if there's anything I can do, And I said Scott.
Everybody told you what you could do, and you didn't
do it. And then the next day Steve Bannon gets there,
so I told him explicitly, I like, I am deeply
troubled by the fact that I have asked you to
just say one nice thing, just you know, hey, Brandon

(01:39:48):
Stock's not a complete piece of shit, just so everyone
knows couldn't do it. But the next day on Twitter,
Steve Bannon gets indicted and it starts trending on Twitter.
The phrase I stand with Steve Bannon starts trending, and
he posts a picture of himself with Steve Bannon and
writes the exact words, I stand with Steve Bannon, so
that his account will show up under that trend and

(01:40:09):
he can get more engagement.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
Fine, great, that's his right to do so.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
But the point is it's been clearly articulated multiple times
at this point what my grievance is. And then about
a year after that, I win this civil case. These
eight piece of shit Capitol police officers were lying and
suing me, and it was a nightmare, but I got
through it and I got out of the case and
I won, and I went on Twitter and I posted
how we had this rare victory in j six that

(01:40:34):
I beat these eight Capitol police officers in a civil case,
and the phrase congratulations Brandon begins trending on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:40:41):
And this dude comes under my post.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
And literally writes the words congratulations branded under my post.
Didn't reach out to me privately, didn't text me, didn't
do what he literally wrote the trending words. And I
swear to God that moment, I'm like, this guy's a sociopath.
He's actually a complete and little sociopath.

Speaker 4 (01:41:04):
No, see, I get I understand like sounds like he
to you. From your perspective, he is a bad friend.
I wish I could understand. Maybe he just's human. Yeah, No,
it's about.

Speaker 33 (01:41:15):
It from your perspective, from what you just said.

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
Yeah, that doesn't sound great.

Speaker 34 (01:41:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
I wonder what Scott Thrash now is behind it. Maybe
he felt that he was going to cannibalize his career.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
That's the put.

Speaker 4 (01:41:27):
Just I'm trying to have it back and forth. Take
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
No, But at this point she's right though, because we
do have some many requests, like we can come back
any Let's move on to the second.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
You've had a fifteen minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
There's a scene here. I want to get to the box.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
To other people who had their hands up.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
All right, shell take it away?

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
Did they work?

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
That's media right?

Speaker 4 (01:42:00):
Oh yeah, sorry about that.

Speaker 35 (01:42:02):
So I did actually work with Scott once back in
the early days.

Speaker 4 (01:42:09):
So I was one of the first to be blocked by.

Speaker 35 (01:42:11):
Him on Twitter, probably around twenty eighteen, because we supported
different Senate candidates. He was supporting the Mitch McConnell plant
establishment guy, and I must have said something rude at
some point maybe and he blocked me something something along

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those lines, and so I've been blocked ever since. But
I wanted to respond to that diligence guy.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
About the pack stuff he was saying about the pack.

Speaker 35 (01:42:52):
Anybody that's been in politics for a while knows that
pack have loopholes and ability to be misused and are
very poorly governed and their self reported. And politicians and

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operatives have been known to divert funds for personal expenses
like travel, dining, and theyploit loopholes disguised personal concess campaign
related they often get kicked back. I'm not making any accusations, however,
but it's just kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Lazy to just say that just.

Speaker 35 (01:43:35):
Because there's an FBC report that that means nothing possibly
bad could have ever happened.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
That's not.

Speaker 35 (01:43:46):
Proved at all, Like I'm not accusing anybody of anything,
of course, but it also doesn't prove one that every
single penny was spent perfectly appropriately either. You can't prove
that perfectly.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
So I just wanted.

Speaker 35 (01:44:06):
To throw that out there without making an actual accusation.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
People in politics.

Speaker 35 (01:44:13):
Know that already packs are pretty poorly monitored by the SEC.
But in my time working with Scott, he told me
that he actually didn't even support Donald Trump in the
primary in two thousand and fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:44:30):
He supported Marco Rubio.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
And and even we're in twenty two or in twenty
twenty two.

Speaker 35 (01:44:38):
Yeah, and even in this last election, I was told
that he was holding out hope for Romney Santus for
making an official.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
Announcement.

Speaker 35 (01:44:49):
I don't know if that's one hundred percent true or not,
but I was told that. So I'm a maga guy.
I don't know about everybody in this space. I'm a
maga guy. I'm not just you know all about Republican
in this Republican that I'm maga. So if you're just Republicans. First,
I honestly don't care because I'm MAGA and.

Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
So so that's what I.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
Know about him.

Speaker 35 (01:45:15):
And when I worked with him, I was grateful to
learn how to door knock, so that I'll say that
one nice thing about him.

Speaker 4 (01:45:25):
But after that, you know, he seems like kind of
a smug guy after that, and.

Speaker 35 (01:45:33):
Yeah, it's like, I really don't know what else to
say other than he just seems out for himself, not
not maga, not really out for Trump, just out for
himself and whatever whatever, whatever that means. I don't know

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what net worth is, I don't know how much money
he has actually made. Some of the stuff I've read
seems kind of alarming that it's true that he's made
as much as I've been reading that he's been been making.
That's not good. The mass blocking, it's just kind of

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getting out of hand. I think eventually people are going
to start realizing you just can't block but so many
people and then assume that people aren't going to start
asking questions like something's fishy here. You know, people are
going to talk sooner or later and say.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Hey, I'm blocked by I'm me too, at me too?

Speaker 35 (01:46:38):
What I mean, but uh, anyway, I wanted to also
just say congratulations on getting your your part in Brandon,
And that wouldn't have happened if Donald Trump hadn't a one.
And and by the way, uh, even if we had
lost Pennsylvania, Donald Trump still would have won the election.

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
We didn't.

Speaker 35 (01:47:02):
I think we would have won Pennsylvania either way.

Speaker 4 (01:47:06):
But even if we.

Speaker 35 (01:47:08):
Lost Pennsylvania, he won all of the swing states, lost Nevada.
So we're all debating about whether or not we won Pennsylvania.
And it didn't even matter, right, he swept the board, right,
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
No you know, yeah, sorry, like not to It's just
that was another narrative of Scots two leading up to
the election, and like he was just pounding this message
it we can't win if we don't win Pennsylvania. We
can't win if we can't don't win Pennsylvania, and I'm
gonna do this in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Well it turned out to not even be true.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
I mean again, I any work that was actually done,
I appreciate anybody who was in Pennsylvania busting their asses,
thank you, thank you to all of you for everything
that you did. But the fact that that I, I
mean the idea that like Donald Trump was on track
to lose Pennsylvania. Yeah, I mean, the dude crushed it

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across it. Just it's ridiculous, And you're right. In the end,
the narrative wasn't even true because we would have won
without Pennsylvania.

Speaker 35 (01:48:13):
Although thank god we won that. Yeah, you took the
popular vote for frick safe. Yeah, And so that's that's
really all I got. I'm gonna let the rest of
the people that have probably been waiting a long time
too to get their words in.

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
And thanks for thanks for letting me speak. Thank you,
We appreciate it. Get president.

Speaker 36 (01:48:40):
Let's go, Pardy, thank you for letting me speak. I
truly appreciate it. Got a lot of great people here.
I mean, you know, look, we keep I probably saved
our asses. I don't know, Scott, but I've interacted with

(01:49:01):
them a decent amount in my life. Again, I think
what both sides are saying. With that said, I think
what both sides are saying. There's relevance. I think a
lot of the time. I think a lot of the
times everyone kind of harps on one side of the

(01:49:22):
coin to fit your narrative. Well, there's heads and there's tails.
The glasses half full, correct, the glasses also half empty,

(01:49:51):
you know, Like I mean he has he hasn't said
all right, flocking people. I'm not a big fan of.
I mean, I don't opinion. I don't think that's the
best move. I think you should probably drust his head on.
What I can say though, is like, you know, when
people are people are coming at me, or if people

(01:50:11):
are coming at anyone with specific you know, data points
and specific be it would be stupid move on anyone's
part to say something about that information unless you actually
have that information compiled and ready to go to counter
what people are saying against you.

Speaker 7 (01:50:33):
It would it would be you know, be foolish.

Speaker 36 (01:50:34):
So what I would think should happen is that I
think Scott and I hope this is what he's doing.
I hope that he's going to be gathering this information
to counter what people are saying so that way he
can say, hey, look, you know, here are the numbers now,
like I mean, look, I mean, I don't know if
people have submitted personal financial statements the banks, people pad

(01:50:57):
the numbers. I mean, there's a joke, you know, he didn't.
I'm hearing stuff from people that you know, that he did.
What it boils down to to me is that we

(01:51:18):
want Like, that's what it pulls down to. Like, you know,
social media is incredible, hold on, please, social media is
incredibly powerful, Okay, Like the stuff that he has done
throughout his career with Act for America, the cleanup thing
and this whole voting thing, even if he did pad
the numbers, like and again, I don't know by how
much I hear some people saying he did, some people

(01:51:39):
saying he didn't. I hope the truth will come out,
but I'm gonna look at what, like what I can
look at right now, and the litmus test that I
can measure and do you know, my own my own
judgment without looking at statistics and data which can be
manipulated to fit pretty much almost anything most of the time.
I mean, he's done the hell of a lot that

(01:52:02):
cruise guy in twenty sixteen, all right, And then eventually
I was like, you know what, I think Trump's a
better candidate.

Speaker 7 (01:52:07):
I switched my mind. Does that make me a horrible person?

Speaker 37 (01:52:09):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
So?

Speaker 36 (01:52:09):
I mean, like, I can't like you if he wasn't
an originally a Trump guy or oh he thought it
was a better candidate. All right, Well, guess what, there
were a lot of people that thought there was a
better candidate and they switched up. I mean, like that mean,
it's like a real strong man thing.

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
But you know, the the what he you know, what
he's done.

Speaker 36 (01:52:24):
You know, it's it's been, it's it's a very it's
a very powerful thing.

Speaker 7 (01:52:28):
It's a very very good message.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
All right. His character.

Speaker 36 (01:52:31):
He didn't say anything to you about January sixth. My opinion,
I do, I think that's a little crappy. I think,
you know, friends should have friends back, you know. Sadly,
you know, I think ego probably might play into you know,
into into things that you know are happening right now
regarding what you're saying and are applicable to this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
What I will say though, is, you know, look, I
mean Trump's got a big ego, you.

Speaker 36 (01:52:53):
Know, and people that really do work hard, which he has,
and people that really put themselves out there, which he has,
and people that drive across America and hold all these
meetings and do all the stuff which he has.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
You know, I think most people would get a little
bit of an ego. Sadly. Social media creates a lot
of inflated egos.

Speaker 36 (01:53:12):
It happens to a lot of people, you know, and
I you know, look, he doesn't repost people's stuff. Okay, fine,
that's his right. But you know, I mean, like me personally,
depending on what I have going on in my life,
would I stick up for you know, like a friend,
I mean I to me, I think it would depend
on how strong that friendship really is. I mean, if

(01:53:34):
he stood up for you, he probably would have the
FBI knock going on you. You know, what he had
going on in his life. You know, it might not
have been the best move for him to say something
like that, knowing how conservatives and knowing how people were
being targeted, and there's their rights being in, our constitutional
rights being crapped on. I mean, what happened to you
was absolutely horrible for him. But I mean, like you know, so,
I mean to me, he didn't stand out for you.

(01:53:56):
I mean, honestly, you know, how how strong was that?

Speaker 7 (01:53:59):
You know? How wrong was that type of friendship?

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
Like my boy boys, I would absolutely.

Speaker 36 (01:54:03):
Go to that for them, regardless what And I didn't
want to give a crap I was knocking on my
door if it was a friend or an associate you
know or you know what, people you have more not friends.
I can't think of the term right now because it's late.
My brain's starting to shut down. But you have more
associates the older you get. You know, if it was
an associate or just kind of like a.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Friend friend, I probably wouldn't go to bat with them, you.

Speaker 7 (01:54:24):
Know, go to back to them.

Speaker 36 (01:54:25):
But if it was like one of my boys, one
of my boys boys, I wouldn't care the f I
could be knocking on my door all day. So I mean,
like you know, again, I hear what both sides are saying.
I can see the validity to what both sides are saying.
But the bottom line, guys, is that we want and
to me, if he did pad the numbers, he should
be right now hearing what everyone's saying, he should be

(01:54:46):
compiling the information to be able to counter it. For me, honestly, again,
seeing what he's done with my own eyes, things that
I can prove that everyone else.

Speaker 4 (01:54:58):
Can see he goes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
Besides seen on Twitter or seen in real life.

Speaker 4 (01:55:12):
Well, I've seen it in.

Speaker 5 (01:55:13):
Real life, kah.

Speaker 4 (01:55:23):
Tell us.

Speaker 36 (01:55:23):
I could tell someone, hey, I think you should do this,
and they're going to discredit me they're not going to
listen to me, give me like that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
What happened I'm saying is that there there seem to
be a lot of people who are missing the point
because what they're doing is they're saying, but I but
I've seen on Twitter, I've seen everything that he's doing.
It's like, but the basis of the argument we're making is.

Speaker 36 (01:55:50):
That about the years that I've met Scott through Act
for America, the people that I know that had interact
with him, the majority of things that I hear are
overwhelmingly positive.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
I mean, quite frankly, I really think we're split.

Speaker 36 (01:56:09):
Harris, but I like, this is like the worst time,
now it's not, and start to in by each other. No, absolutely,
the worst would be a presidential general election here shortly
for the election. Uh you know this is we're not
even in a midterm election year. So if we're not
allowed to have this conversation in the year after, the

(01:56:32):
months after we're victorious in a presidential election year, and
then leading up to a midterm election year, then there's
literally no good time.

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
What you're saying is that we're never ever allowed to
ask these questions and sorry, oh don't plase I never.

Speaker 36 (01:56:44):
I never said that, and that I mean all throughe respect.
What I said in the beginning is that what people
are saying on both sides had validity, and he should
come out and he should say something. And this whole
early voting thing guys like, look, you know, would you
know you can put water on a fire for so
long and then that fire doesn't work anymore, and then
you have to fight fire with fire. I'm going to
hear all the analytic things. I hear how things can

(01:57:06):
get twisted and manipulated and you know, stolen and this
that and the other thing, and I hear this establishment
thing being thrown around, all that kind of stuff. You know,
we we have to play to win, all right. You
got to fight fire with fire and water that we
the conservatives have been using for a long time now
it ain't anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
That's the point all the critics.

Speaker 7 (01:57:23):
Iient to fight fire.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
Excuse this is the point that all the critics are
making like it's it's very I'm sorry, it's kind of frustrating.
Now I talk to you, I know you're being very nice,
and I appreciate that you're kind of being neutral and
like looking at both sides truly, I appreciate that. But
part of the frustration I'm having with the defenders are
that there there's kind of like this attitude like, oh,

(01:57:45):
you know, well, we just we all got to get
along here and just overlook stuff and just and it's like, no,
I'm sorry, because the whole reason why those of us
are here bringing this stuff up and complaining is because
there are very consequential, detrimental impacts happening from this kind
of behavior that you're kind of just excused, Oh, if
you did pad the numbers, who cares, what's a big deal.

Speaker 7 (01:58:06):
Well, it is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
There's like we've wow, well we've literally how did.

Speaker 4 (01:58:10):
It hurt you?

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
Did it hurt you?

Speaker 36 (01:58:12):
Like honestly, and I'm not trying you're having a dick
like with him, possibly with him possibly padding the numbers.
Did it hurt you? Did it act you in any
negative way? Were you financially harmed?

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
How I'm supercurious, And again I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Not We've literally spent five hours naming all the reasons,
but I'll do it again. One, it demoralizes the grassroots.
It gives people. First of all, let's start there, so
people who are actually busting their ass on the ground
who don't have a large social media following, aren't taking
pictures of themselves with photo registration forums and posting them
all the time. People who are actually out doing the
work and also getting results.

Speaker 7 (01:58:45):
And working hard.

Speaker 3 (01:58:46):
They I've had people come they don't want to do
this anymore because they're like this dude swept into town.
He took all the credit for things that those people
have been working in Pennsylvania for four or five, six, seven,
eight years more work, and this guy flew into town
at the last minute and stole all the credit for
all the work that people have been doing who are nameless.

Speaker 7 (01:59:12):
I think it's important. I'm sorry what you mean you did?

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
Maybe admit you did.

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
So you did?

Speaker 7 (01:59:21):
Mean correct?

Speaker 36 (01:59:23):
It's important when people are when people are doing one, two, three,
four five, it's always important to at least allow someone
to address the number one.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
I mean, you're right, he did. Possibly he did spoop. However, However, however, who.

Speaker 36 (01:59:38):
Was who was behind him, who was behind that whole
marketing campaign, and who was having his back in order
to be able to present it to everyone to help
move the movement for the greater good. I mean, there's
validity to what you're saying. I'm not saying that there is.
But there's also a bigger pire too.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
So another consequence is that when you start making large
proclamation about how you have flipped a state and turned
it read, you are basically signaling to a group of people.
And I know from first hand experience for the last
seven years, it is very, very very difficult to get
conservatives to get involved, to take action, to even go

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out and vote on off electioneers and a number of
other things. But when you have told people, hey, I
flipped this thing red, don't worry and guess what Now,
I'm coming to Wisconsin to replicate what I just did
in Pennsylvania. I'm going to make conserl right. I'm going
to make New Jersey read. People in New Jersey. Not
all people. I don't want people come up, but like,
there are people in New Jersey who's lost their mind,

(02:00:38):
who literally, oh my god, thank God got Pressler's coming
to our state to do what he did in Pennsylvania.
So do we have a right to ask, well, what
did Scott Presley do in Pennsylvania? Do we have a
right to ask that question? Because people all over the
country believe he's going to come and do what he
did in their state. But guess what, when Donald Trump
isn't on the ticket, he's not getting results the state

(02:00:59):
that he just flipped through at Pennsylvania just lost a
Senate seat that Republicans have held for one hundred and
thirty six years. But I'm confused because I thought Scott
Presller flipped the state red. Scott Presser went to Wisconsin,
told everyone he was going to do in Wisconsin what
he did in Pennsylvania, and then we lost the Spring
Court election and he claimed everyone else it was everyone
else's fault.

Speaker 4 (02:01:21):
Brandon, can I give a little bit of historically.

Speaker 36 (02:01:23):
Speaking, don't like, don't conservatives lose the seats after the
Republican president. If the tactics are so great, please go
to California and flip California so we never lose another election.

Speaker 4 (02:01:37):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Why isn't he going to Virginia this year?

Speaker 33 (02:01:41):
There's two key governor's racist they're very important, New Jersey
and Virginia.

Speaker 4 (02:01:45):
He's completely ignoring Virginia.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Why doesn't he go waives wrong in Virginia because he
knows that there's a much greater chance that New Jersey
might go red, and he wants to take the credit
for it. He knows that Virginia there's a very low probability. Unfortunately,
the wins he's going to take Virginia. It's not it's
doesn't look good. He doesn't want anything to do with
it because he knows, why not use his magic formula

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where we need.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
It the most in Virginia. Weird?

Speaker 36 (02:02:12):
Well, I mean, if I mean, you just said that
he's going to go to New Jersey where there's a
good chance, wouldn't you want to go to the state
that you believe you have the best chance of winning.

Speaker 7 (02:02:21):
I mean, I'm gonna step down.

Speaker 4 (02:02:24):
I would go. I would to where.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
They're needed the most, not the state that's already looking
like we're going to go red.

Speaker 7 (02:02:32):
I mean, but now you got it, I'll step down.
You guys got a lot of other hands.

Speaker 4 (02:02:38):
Guys.

Speaker 36 (02:02:39):
Again, I think both sides have a good point here.
I pray that Scott'll come out and be able to
set the record straight. You know, I just I think
I don't know. I think I think we're splitting hairs
we needed. I You're more than free to ask questions,
but you know, right now, in fighting and possibly preventing
someone that does do good, regardless of things, how great

(02:02:59):
and the measuring of it. You know, I just I'm very,
very very concerned that in fighting will be detrimental.

Speaker 7 (02:03:07):
But thank you very much for let me speak those stuff.

Speaker 26 (02:03:09):
I am.

Speaker 16 (02:03:09):
We're all amazing people because they have arts without their names,
so great.

Speaker 7 (02:03:13):
Exactly they'll be in botting of it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:16):
Well, I did, exactly.

Speaker 25 (02:03:18):
Let me give you you guys some contexts. I'll talk
fast because I know there's a lot of hands, so
we I'm in Pennsylvania. I'm an election integrity audit. We
launched February eighth of twenty twenty one because we saw
things win awry in our state.

Speaker 4 (02:03:35):
No one knew who we were. My co founder, her
name is Karen Taylor.

Speaker 25 (02:03:39):
You can reach out to her and verify this connected
with Scott Presler because we were told that he had
following and he if we got him on board, that
we would get tons of signatures and we'd fix our elections.
This was March April ish of twenty twenty one, So
think about the sentiment in the Mega movement. Everybody was
shell shocked. Nobody believed twenty twenty was actually a legitimate election.

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And everyone couldn't believe that Biden was an I legitimate president.
He told my co founder, and at the time I
thought nothing of this, but he told her, Nope, not
interested in looking back, don't want to sign your petition,
not going to help you. He was nice about it.
I think, I don't think he was a jerk, but
he didn't support us. He said, I'm registering voters, I'm
moving on and I'm moving forward. And at the time
we thought nothing of it. But our big concern now

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as we look back, we hit the ground.

Speaker 7 (02:04:25):
For four years.

Speaker 25 (02:04:26):
When I say we, I mean all the grassroots in Pennsylvania,
not just my organization taking credit for that, hit the
ground and got in the nitty gritty and to us,
then it appeared like he came back before the twenty
twenty election, swoops in with a dangerous election integrity policy
that could have cost us the state. And so now
I look back and I'm questioning, is this guy really
in this for the cause or does he just want

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to make money in a name for himself.

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
So that's the concern. It's not in fighting.

Speaker 25 (02:04:53):
We're very concerned and the fact that he blocks all
of us and won't have this conversation or show us
his numbers adds to that.

Speaker 7 (02:05:00):
So I hope that gives clarity.

Speaker 4 (02:05:02):
Thank you, Tony.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
And that's part of the point I was trying to
make too. It's it's some of these people who are
being defensive. It's they're they're coming at the argument with
a false premise. You know, if you're saying to me
in fighting that has the word in it, I'm not
convinced that we're in That's the problem. Like I'm trying
to determine if you know, oh, we're all on the
same team, are we because this this person was not

(02:05:24):
on my team when I got dragged through help for
four and a half years. And no, like for all
the people out there who are like, oh, get over
it's like stuffing but hurt, I'm not but hurt. I mean, honestly,
it's the point.

Speaker 4 (02:05:33):
I really don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
But the point is like when you see that, when
you witness that firsthand, and not once, not twice, dozens
of times over four and a half years, you start
asking questions like, hmm, are we actually on the same
team or does this person have a different agenda? And
I'm not like putting on a timpoil hat and believing that,

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you know, oh, he's a Democrat party operative.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
But I'm like, you know, I h he didn't endorse
Donald Trump until Donald Trump won the primary. He was
aligning himself with the Santis people one hundred percent, and
it did kind of seem like he was preparing for
that to be the way that things win. But then
Trump wins the primary and now he's all of a
sudden super maga again.

Speaker 4 (02:06:18):
And I'm not saying that he is or isn't, I.

Speaker 3 (02:06:20):
Don't know, but I'm saying the loyalty seems pretty damn
finn and it makes me start asking questions like is
the recognizing that there's opportunity to get a lot of
attention and accolades and same and yes, possibly money, which
again I don't get too shits about if he raises
money or not. I don't care, but I do question

(02:06:41):
his motivations, and I think it's logical for me to
do so because I have watched him not be a
loyal person repeatedly. I've watched him not be a teammate
or somebody who's in with me and.

Speaker 4 (02:06:57):
A lot of other people.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
So I think it's reasonable to ask these questions, and
I don't think it's fair to come at it with
the perspective of the wrung.

Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
Thing team ors infighting.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
No, I'm trying to determine if we are on the
thing teams, and I have punny of evidence to think
we're not.

Speaker 25 (02:07:11):
And I'll just ask the listeners to think about where
you were in March and April twenty twenty one. Did
you think the election was legit? Because he just wasped
it away like it was no big deal.

Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
So just take that in consideration.

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
After Leading stopped to steel, Leading stopped to steel when
it was, you know, a popular thing to do at
the time, and then as soon as it was over,
like oh no, no, there's no fraud moving on.

Speaker 4 (02:07:38):
Yep, that's pretty much what he said. Sorry, shoe, thank.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
You, Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (02:07:54):
Had the jet true you were Hi, Brandon.

Speaker 37 (02:07:59):
I'm first I want to thank you for having me
up here. I do hear you. I do think it
is important to be asking questions, and I don't think
anybody is about cruin me, so I just want to
ask you know, I have some questions for you. I
noticed earlier on the space that you seem to have
a lot of people who are affiliated with the campaign
for Bill Sidia for governor, and I know Bill is

(02:08:21):
very upset that God refused to endorse them because Gott
does not endorse people in the primaries. So I'm just wondering,
you know, is there any kind of collaboration going on
between you and the Bill Sidia campaign That just I'm just.

Speaker 4 (02:08:34):
Curious, no fair question. Who are the people?

Speaker 3 (02:08:37):
I don't even know who you're talking about.

Speaker 37 (02:08:39):
Well, I'm saying that you had a lot of people
who are on the space, like you said, like there's
this guy George Nator who asked is his profile background?
I'm Bill Sadia for governor. So I'm just wondering, is
this space being held on behalf of a political candidate?

Speaker 3 (02:08:54):
And I am not aware of anybody in this space
who is campaigning for Bill Spadia. But I can tell
you one hundred percent certainty there's no connection whatsoever, Absolutely not.
I put this video out to stay which I shot
it and I edited it for a couple I've been

(02:09:16):
very busy out of California for nine days doing had
a spring of events. I got back, I put the
final touches on this video. I called my friend Derek
and I said, would you help me co host space tonight.
He said, yes, I'll hope you could. Literally the space
wasn't even an idea. We were he was home late
from one of his kids' sports games. We threw it
together very last minute. I have no knowledge of who

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was coming in or out of space none.

Speaker 37 (02:09:41):
All right, Well, I'm just it just it just seemed,
you know, strangely, because he had a lot of people
up from the campaign.

Speaker 8 (02:09:46):
If and if you want, I can tell you who
they are.

Speaker 4 (02:09:48):
It's horribly you want me to do. So, yeah, you
can ask question, are you in New Jersey as well? No,
I'm in Florida, Okay, I was.

Speaker 7 (02:09:57):
I was just curious.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
I was gonna say, I mean, I don't know anything
about that race.

Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
I was just want to ask you if.

Speaker 16 (02:10:02):
You were supporting another candidate, then you're up here too,
So I mean, that's that's the reason I was going
to ask.

Speaker 4 (02:10:07):
I don't even know running into Jersey.

Speaker 37 (02:10:09):
To be honest with you, all I know about that
race right now is just the DA and then some
guiding yet that's really.

Speaker 4 (02:10:16):
What I know.

Speaker 37 (02:10:16):
But I just thought it was just interesting that you
seem to have a lot of people up here who
are part of that campaign like you had, Like I said,
you had Jim Nader, you had Defender of the Republic.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
You also had I think Mike Flinn Junior was on
the space earlier.

Speaker 37 (02:10:30):
And I know that General Flynn is hosting a spit
is hosting an event with a fundraiser for Bill Sadilla
that Scott Sprescy was supposed to go to but he
backed out of it. So I'm just and I know
and from what I'm hearing, he was very upset about it.
So I'm just wondering if perhaps, say reached out to
you asking you to do this, not knowing that you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:50):
No unequivocally the answer is no.

Speaker 37 (02:10:53):
All right, well I think, well I appreciate you telling
me that I'll step.

Speaker 4 (02:10:55):
Down and make space. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
No, absolutely no, in no way shape form. It wasn't
that well organized. It was a last minute decision to
do the space. That would be an example of me
answering the question that somebody asked when they have suspicions
about my motivations, which I'm happy to do anytime.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Do ready for the next Impact.

Speaker 5 (02:11:31):
Camp?

Speaker 4 (02:11:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 34 (02:11:32):
I knew you were going to do that as soon
as I stepped away. I'm all yep, Shell's gonna call
on me next. So a couple of things. Brandon, the
loan raccoon that was in here earlier. Jeff O'Donnell, he
was part of Mike Lindell's team. And I'll tell you

(02:11:53):
after after the election was stolen in twenty twenty, man,
I went on the deepest dive rabbit hole.

Speaker 4 (02:12:05):
I mean you could go down.

Speaker 34 (02:12:07):
And Jeff O'Donnell, the guy he was in this face earlier,
the lone raccoon.

Speaker 4 (02:12:15):
He made everything makes sense, man, and uh, let me
boil it down.

Speaker 34 (02:12:23):
My biggest suspicion with Scott Presler was the early vote action.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
I had major issues with that.

Speaker 34 (02:12:33):
Not not his work ethic or register in voters, or
his messaging or even if he was inflating numbers or whatever.
It was the early vote action because Scott doesn't even
want to.

Speaker 4 (02:12:48):
Go down.

Speaker 34 (02:12:50):
To where the truth lies. Yeah, here here on the
left coast, Brandon. Like here in the state Oregon, in California,
washingtonnumber of other states. We do not even control our
own voter roles. They're controlled by Eric.

Speaker 4 (02:13:08):
Eric. It's an acronym.

Speaker 34 (02:13:11):
It stands for the Electronic Registration Information Center, and it
was put together by George Soros and a number of
other people. And so here in the state of oreon California, Washington,
we do not control our voter roles. It's it's a
private NNGO that is funded formerly through usaaai D and

(02:13:38):
from George Soros and a number of Well, we have
not had a legitimate election on the Left Coast in decades,
in decades and decades, and so one of the ways
Eric controls because here in the Left Coast, they actual

(02:14:00):
we have lifetime access to our elections through voter tabulation,
voter tabulator machines.

Speaker 4 (02:14:10):
It's flipping crazy men and.

Speaker 34 (02:14:14):
The Loan Raccoon as well as a number of other
people in Mike Lindell's team. They they made it very
crystal clear. Man, Hammer and scorecard is a real thing.
Dennis Montgumbera is a real dude. And our elections have
been stolen for decades, and it's it's the low propensity

(02:14:42):
voters that Eric uses to sway elections. So anyway, I
just had to bring that up.

Speaker 3 (02:14:53):
Man.

Speaker 34 (02:14:53):
That is my only issue with Scott Pressler, early vote action,
all this stuff, this ship.

Speaker 7 (02:15:05):
Thanks jam job.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
I feel like mother has been waiting for a long time,
but maybe I've gone.

Speaker 4 (02:15:12):
Out of order.

Speaker 8 (02:15:14):
It's it's empty.

Speaker 2 (02:15:15):
Mother came back.

Speaker 8 (02:15:16):
So let's let the empty and then we'll get no problem.

Speaker 10 (02:15:20):
Yes, I can hear me, we can. Yes, thank you
for the space, Brandon. He've done a fantastic job so
far host in the space. It's been very neutral and
I think very fair. I'm not here to bash Scott Pressler.
I followed him for years and I've been, you know,
a big supporter of his.

Speaker 7 (02:15:41):
Over the years.

Speaker 4 (02:15:43):
Heck, I've vouched for him to be the next R
and C chair.

Speaker 7 (02:15:48):
You know.

Speaker 10 (02:15:49):
I've never had any personal issues with him, and he's
never really been under you know, my microscope, and that's
because there wasn't a reason too. So, uh, few weeks back,
everybody remembers the special election in Pennsylvania. This is kind
of where he got under my microscope a little bit,
and I just want to share it a little bit
of my concerns. So the election was the special election

(02:16:14):
of Parson and Malone.

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
And one thing I always look for, especially in these.

Speaker 10 (02:16:21):
Races that matter, you know, that mean a lot to
both sides, are two things I pay attention to the
vote difference between the two groups at the end of
the day the two parties and then the starting off
vote counts for mail in ballots, and right off the
bat after that election was announced, you know that Malone

(02:16:42):
was the winner. At the Democrat one, I pointed out
two things that I thought were very important because I
think everybody on this space can agree that we still
have issues with our elections. You know, one being you know,
the machines and there's some type of manipulation going on.
And you know, of course we all know that mail

(02:17:04):
in ballot, mail in balloting, and early voting their big issues.
So what I saw with that election was Malone won
by about I don't know, five hundred votes, and it
brought it down to the margin below one percent. So
that is a big red flag to me. And you know,
when you get up into the tens of thousands, hundreds

(02:17:25):
of thousands, or you know, the millions of votes you know,
presidential elections, and you're getting to the point where it's
under one percent. And if anybody paid attention to Carry Lakes,
you know, raised in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (02:17:37):
Two, or.

Speaker 10 (02:17:39):
Forgive me the herschel Walker's race, we saw the same
exact thing that you know, one all the elections came
within one percentage point, and that is the hallmark of
a algorithm at play trying to figure out you know,
you trying to figure out the voter, and a lot
of that has to do with person.

Speaker 4 (02:18:01):
Voting the day of the election. So I noticed that.

Speaker 10 (02:18:06):
And then I mentioned that as well as the you know,
coincidence that Democrats always start off with a twenty five
to thirty percent lead. And sure enough, you know, when
the data came out, it showed that Malone was up
by thirty. So I was very vocal about that, and

(02:18:28):
then I got it went viral and I didn't even
mention Scott Pressler, didn't tag him, didn't do anything, but
a lot of people tagged him, you know, because everybody
cares about the election, and you know, everybody wants their voices,
you know, their voices to be heard. So I received

(02:18:48):
a very nasty message from him, telling me basically to
shut up and that you know that there is no
proof there's election fraud, there's nothing, Stop.

Speaker 4 (02:18:59):
Talking about it. You're gonna you're you're incentivizing people not
to vote.

Speaker 10 (02:19:04):
So you know that that to me was very suspicious
and odd, and you know, I was very vocal with him.
I I told him, hey, Scott, you know a lot
of people, you know, count on you.

Speaker 7 (02:19:16):
We're looking to you.

Speaker 4 (02:19:17):
You know, you're you're.

Speaker 10 (02:19:18):
Somebody that is in this movement, and everybody looks to
it'd be nice to have your voice talk about these things.
And uh, sure enough, after you know, a few days
back and forth, and and you know, obviously he didn't agree.

Speaker 7 (02:19:32):
He ended up blocking me.

Speaker 10 (02:19:34):
Now that's fine, you know, that's that's his you know,
perspective or or.

Speaker 7 (02:19:41):
You know, it's his right.

Speaker 4 (02:19:42):
To do that.

Speaker 10 (02:19:44):
But uh, you know, he reached out to me and
just basically told me to shut up about an issue
that everybody in his call. I don't care what side
you're on. You know, we we still understand this to
be a problem. We still understand that machines are manipulate votes.
We still understand that mail in ballots are an issue.

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And then, sure enough, after a day.

Speaker 4 (02:20:06):
That he blocked me.

Speaker 10 (02:20:09):
Excuse me, Liz Harrington, who was Donald Trump's former White
House chief correspondent, published something and I think that aught
of the vote is on here. They can corroborate that
they published some data showing that hey, there's some very
weird anomalies going on with the data that we're seeing,

(02:20:31):
and the data showed that in that race, So remember
Parsons only lost by just under four five hundred I
think and correct me if I'm wrong on that. But
what happened was so Democrats requested a certain amount of
votes and they ended up.

Speaker 4 (02:20:52):
Voting. I'm sorry, they ended up casting more votes than
they requested.

Speaker 10 (02:20:57):
So what that meant in terms of the data is
that the Republicans in Independence also requested mail in balance,
but twenty five percent voted across party lines. So that's
what that data suggested. That Democrats voted, got more votes
than Democrat voters requested, and then Republicans and Independence cross

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party lines just to vote in this race.

Speaker 4 (02:21:23):
That's just total bullshit.

Speaker 10 (02:21:25):
I mean, we're and this was right around the time
where there was a big poll that went out where
Democrats were pulling at the lowest point almost in history,
and you're telling me that twenty five percent of voters
cross party line to vote and it you know, again
I back and forth with him, it went viral. I'm

(02:21:45):
pretty sure that's what sparked the space. But what it
happened after that, it surprised me because you know, I
had moved on from it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:55):
It's fine. I'm just going to keep speaking up.

Speaker 10 (02:21:57):
And there was verifiable data that proved something was wrong
with that election, and you know, Pressler at that point
was just focused on Wisconsin and you know, just forget
about Pennsylvania, you know, and uh again, just going back
to the data, you know that that was a deep
red area that you know had been held for decades,

(02:22:18):
and his his tweets implied that we didn't vote hard enough,
that we didn't get out and vote hard enough.

Speaker 4 (02:22:25):
That's just total bullshits in it. You know.

Speaker 10 (02:22:28):
At this point, like we are more involved than we
ever have been. And I could speak so for myself
and like just to countless others that are probably on
the space, we are all involved like we have never
been before. So to sit there and say that we
didn't vote hard enough, it's just a slap in the
face to everybody, and just you know, just totally ignoring

(02:22:48):
that we have some issues. You know, it just it
kind of makes you look guilty. So what happened after
that point? I was surprised because I received I can't
tell you how many personal messages from grassroots organizations and
there's quite a few on his chet that I'm looking through.

Speaker 4 (02:23:07):
Quite a few of them reached out to me and said,
thank you, MJ.

Speaker 10 (02:23:10):
We've been trying to trying to say exactly what you've
been saying, you know, for months, for years, we've been
talking about these things, and he just totally ignores us.
And one of the one of the main things that
I hear that I heard from everybody was that he
would come into an area and he would totally change
the strategy for how they would approach the election, you know,

(02:23:33):
going from you know, the grassroots strategy to promoting mail
in ballots, you know, trying to get those mail and
ballots out, and the grassroots organizations would tell me that,
you know, our strategy was working, but he came in
and just he's doing it this way and it harmed us. Now,
whether or not Scott's strategy is better than the grassroots don't.

Speaker 4 (02:23:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (02:23:56):
That's not my area of expertise. But the consens this
was across all the grassroots was that you know, he
came in and he's promoting mail in ballots.

Speaker 4 (02:24:07):
Now, I'm not a mail in ballot person.

Speaker 10 (02:24:09):
I doubt anybody is on this chat and then the
argument is that, well, we got to play by their
rules because these are the rules in place. That's just
that's just a total you know, it's just total bullshit
to me. You know, the reason why algorithms and stuff
have such a hard time picking people out. Mail in
ballots are counted, uh before, before before a in person

(02:24:36):
person does when they come to cast their vote. And
you know, in regards to the grassroots organizations, I'm more
inclined to believe the grassroots organizations that have been doing
this for years than somebody coming in and you know,
and they too have shared that he comes in and
he'll take credit if they win, but if they lose,

(02:24:57):
oh we didn't vote hard enough, or we didn't you know,
I didn't have any help. So my point here is,
you know, I'm not bashing him, but there are significant
red flags for me that tell me that something's just
not right with the whole situation. I think everybody on
here is on this call in good faith, and I
think that you know, this isn't infighting. You know, we

(02:25:19):
all have a concern and we can walk and shoot
them at the same time. You can talk about these
things because it's an issue and he's a you know,
whether or not we like it or not, he's a
leader in this movement, and you know, we needed him
to start speaking up a little bit more about you know,
some of the anomalies happening in these elections. Because you

(02:25:40):
can register voters as much as you want, you can
get out there and you know, get people to vote,
get them out to vote, but.

Speaker 4 (02:25:46):
Nothing is gonna you know, it's not.

Speaker 10 (02:25:48):
Going to get fixed until it gets fixed, and we
still have a lot of issues with our elections, and sadly,
it's going to continue that way until there's some type
of executive action and we get to one day voting
paper ballots and it's just you know, this is what
we're dealing with right now. So again my argument is,
you know, I'm not here to bash Scott Pressler, but

(02:26:09):
there are significant concerns that I have, and I think
his true battle what he needs to do is to
talk to these grassroots organizations because obviously they feel like
something is not right with when he comes into their
state and he makes all these changes and it's steered
towards mail in ballots.

Speaker 4 (02:26:30):
So that was my experience with him.

Speaker 10 (02:26:33):
You know, it's unfortunate that he blockmails, nothing but courteous
and kind to him, and just tried to have a
discussion with him and asked him to please, you know,
don't forget about Pennsylvania. We need you to speak up,
because at that point Parsons had the ability to to
call for some type of an audit, but to my understanding,

(02:26:55):
he didn't do it, but because he would have had
to pay fourth out of his own pocket. So it's unfortunate,
you know, nothing was done about it, and we just
moved on to Wisconsin, where the same.

Speaker 4 (02:27:04):
Exact thing happened, and you know.

Speaker 10 (02:27:07):
The consensus is, or the thought is that we didn't
vote hard enough, we didn't get out there and vote,
and it's just total yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:27:15):
Thank you, Jay, I really appreciate you sharing your experience.

Speaker 3 (02:27:18):
I want to say, I'm being inundated by people dming
me and texting me.

Speaker 4 (02:27:27):
It's really sad.

Speaker 3 (02:27:28):
Actually a lot of people are afraid to share their
own experiences that they've had, and I don't know, I
don't really feel right I guess about reading these, although
I part of me wants to. But for those of
you dming me, if you want to take a mic
and come up and share your some of these stories.
You shouldn't have to feel afraid to, like actually tell
the truth about something you experienced because people are going

(02:27:51):
to harass you or bully you because I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (02:27:54):
It literally makes no sense. Yeah, shovel's up.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
Well, I got Brad start Lake City in the Lower Bridge.
So I was wondering how much sy did you want
to go?

Speaker 4 (02:28:06):
No, it's this has been an exhausting space. Do we
want to just finish the hands we have up in?

Speaker 7 (02:28:10):
Then wrap?

Speaker 4 (02:28:12):
I think we just lost Derek too.

Speaker 1 (02:28:15):
Yeah, he's going to bed at four hours.

Speaker 4 (02:28:18):
All right, we'll finish the hands we have.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
All right?

Speaker 8 (02:28:24):
Did drunk Heather?

Speaker 27 (02:28:27):
Thank you, Brandon, thank you selling And I would have
thanked Derek as well. Brandon, you had said that anyone
that came up and took the mic, if they would
comment on experience with Scot and then any kind of
impression or summary. I really am coming into this space
of human serious and I'm sitting here concerned. I'm just

(02:28:52):
an average person on us. I'm not an influencer. I
don't have a sizeable account, but what I can say
is that I have my ex account in terms of
Scott experience. For many years, but I never used it
to tweet until November fourth, twenty twenty, the next day

(02:29:14):
after that election, and I had heard on Tucker and
I had heard on other shows that had to get
out and get on on the social media landscape and
begin to speak truth. And so I did that here.
And although I am I call myself a little dry
in the Twitter atmosphere, but what my background is not

(02:29:40):
in voter in terms of political wise, it's not in
voter the voter landscape, but it is in the marketing,
messaging and public relations landscape of politics and media. And
so when I started tweeting, I didn't reveal to anyone
where I live that I was on ACT. I didn't

(02:30:02):
reveal that to anybody for two years. But quite early
on Scott followed me. I live in a blue dot
in a very red part of New York. I am
in Rochester, New York, which in a very sort of
amount of time, we have become a replica of the
corruption that is in DC, and then we have become

(02:30:25):
a replica of the crime that is notorious in State
Vitoria or Chicago. And so it's a very interesting perspective
to be And so I have a low number of
accounts that someone like Scott follows me, and even today
I have a lot of big names that follow me, right,
but big names are relative in the grand scheme of things,

(02:30:49):
and so I don't have like a power or a
voice on act. But what I did have over the
last four years was a very gracious interaction with Scott
online and then also in DM he did come to
Rochester once there was.

Speaker 1 (02:31:05):
A commitments to come again, and that did not come through.

Speaker 27 (02:31:08):
I'm asked to speak to take the microphone because they
do not see this in any way, shape or form
from my vantage point, as any kind of question on.

Speaker 4 (02:31:21):
A fight.

Speaker 27 (02:31:23):
I don't even see the I'm not even questioning the
manusa of voter ballot integrity.

Speaker 1 (02:31:29):
Or or not.

Speaker 27 (02:31:31):
I see this and then a lot, and I am
alarmed by this is really a question on the integrity
of the flow of information.

Speaker 1 (02:31:40):
To the point, and why Brandon.

Speaker 27 (02:31:42):
You tweeting this this week paints my attention is because
I started doing space with local points September and in
this little blue dot I have the highest amount of flowers,
more than any media anchor reporter talking about yourself, anybody
news wise, And so there comes with that a power.

Speaker 1 (02:32:07):
I noticed a week ago that stopped bloss me.

Speaker 27 (02:32:11):
Finally, and again, if that's an anomaly for a small
you know, like.

Speaker 1 (02:32:16):
How first of all did I get on his radar?

Speaker 8 (02:32:18):
Follow?

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
And then how did I become on his radar?

Speaker 17 (02:32:21):
Not?

Speaker 27 (02:32:22):
And I'll tell you there's a few other anomalies. Julian
Lennon blocks me. I have no idea why betterman's wife
blocks me. So when you have an account like mine,
and that happens with an anomaly, And I'm not by
nature if I do poke fun of people, I never
poke fun of anybody more than a poke front of
myself on this platform, So buy in large. I carry

(02:32:44):
myself with a degree of graciousness. But I'm alarmed at
what I'm hearing by those that have come into this state.
When I saw you Brandon speaking up about being blocked, of.

Speaker 1 (02:32:56):
Course, it was twenty five hours twenty.

Speaker 27 (02:32:58):
Four hours after I know that I had been blocked
by Pressler, and that's that's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
I'm not offended by it or not.

Speaker 27 (02:33:07):
It's an anomaly to me. And I went back and thought,
what if what if I said or not said that
may have you know, fallen on his radar, But what
I do here locally, is I do pick the hornets
mouth of the uniparty that has completely invaded our Board
of Elections and completely invaded our Republican Party.

Speaker 4 (02:33:27):
And so.

Speaker 27 (02:33:29):
I've had a lot of quickly kind of things come
my way, so I can kind of understand on a
small scale what's going on here as I hear counter
arguments to why you started started this argument, Rand, and
I don't see it as an argument. I see that
we are at a time right now where never has

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the flow of information had more of an impact on elections.

Speaker 1 (02:33:54):
And that doesn't belittle any of the work that others
have come in here.

Speaker 27 (02:33:57):
And talked about in their wheelhouses a voter and pebrity
and committee work and ballot and registration. But information is
the other, very very piece here, and we know it
can be weaponized. We know it can move mountains, and
we know it can destroy livelihoods, and it's not regulated here.
It is in legacy media, so to speak. And so

(02:34:20):
I'm hearing other people that have a community to counter you,
facilitating to me a forum to ask questions. And I've
done that locally, and I've been thought that the average
go and Jill sometimes when I simply ask the question.
I am excused of having made a conclusion, and some

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here along the way, we've lost the mere baseline that
there's such a low buyer to entry into the information universe.

Speaker 1 (02:34:59):
But we can't let up true being.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
Our aim is how I finally.

Speaker 27 (02:35:11):
Use the words you're bullying him, and I hear another
person coming to use the words I feel you're attacking,
or I hear someone else come in and say, you're
splitting here hers, and I really don't mind if he
padded the I'm I'm alarmed by that. I'm alarmed also

(02:35:33):
by the notion of team. And I can tell you,
in a city, in a town, in a state that
is deprived of voter and information integrity, I hear team
all the time when I question my local Republicans in
my local unit party, and the team mentality is very dangerous.

(02:35:57):
And just like some of the people that had counter
arguments of bullying or the timing of you doing this branding,
and you know, I don't really care if you lies
a little.

Speaker 1 (02:36:08):
That's a slippery slope, and those those.

Speaker 27 (02:36:10):
Fews that I that I'm quoting have already fallen down
that hill.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
At the end of the day, you know you can
look back over.

Speaker 4 (02:36:17):
His threat.

Speaker 1 (02:36:21):
To winstance to un truth rather than love, money, influence,
even vote, give.

Speaker 4 (02:36:29):
Me the truth.

Speaker 27 (02:36:31):
I am a truth speaker. The truth is uncomfortable. It's
not everybody's cup of tea. But I'm on the team
of the people that are seeking it. And I see
that in you, Brandon, and that's why I'm here to
support you hosting this, but also to speak up for
everybody to not let critical thinking die, because we have

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a generation coming up right now that is going to
get through a lot of schooling with AI and this
might become something that stink the ability to ask questions
and not be accused of being a bully.

Speaker 1 (02:37:05):
Think about that again, grown men.

Speaker 27 (02:37:07):
And I've raised football boys and I'll tell you one
of the ambitious as they come. I play to win.
I playing my boys. I said, you take it like
the marine when you get out on that field, you
freaking golf. I am all about winning, but more so,
we cannot turn into the same mussification we see on

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the other side, where people are in fetal positions if
you look at them the wrong way. And seeing grown
people that are conservatives or Republicans coming into this sphase
and accusing you of picking a fight is in itself
squawed and in my opinion, very very weak and wimpy.

Speaker 38 (02:37:50):
So I'm going to have to ask your diligence request.
Oh absolutely, rested.

Speaker 7 (02:38:07):
The host.

Speaker 3 (02:38:09):
I guess if you can make it quick, I really
would like to try to start wrapping up, and we
do have two more hands to let.

Speaker 7 (02:38:18):
Anybody or whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:38:22):
Skips the line again, respond.

Speaker 23 (02:38:26):
I just the bias is amazing to me because I
heard I heard Brandon make the claim that, you know,
Scott Prestler took sole credit, sole credit.

Speaker 4 (02:38:39):
For winning Pennsylvania. And then he again he made.

Speaker 39 (02:38:41):
The claim that Scot Prestler took sole credit for flipping
Pennsylvania including counties.

Speaker 4 (02:38:48):
Those were your words verbatim.

Speaker 23 (02:38:50):
All right, But if you go look at god profile
and you stirt I won Pennsylvania or I put Pennsylvania red, you.

Speaker 4 (02:38:59):
Don't find anything.

Speaker 39 (02:39:00):
You know what you find he starts we, and it
says we plip Pennsylvania. We won Pennsylvania. And so I
just like for a woman to come on stage and
grandstand and he's some sort of truther. But then you know,
in that very same sentence, you know, show explicit bias

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towards the host.

Speaker 4 (02:39:21):
I think is pretty funny day.

Speaker 8 (02:39:27):
I was fun.

Speaker 4 (02:39:33):
Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (02:39:35):
I'm glad to be of entertainment to diligence.

Speaker 4 (02:39:39):
That's all I have.

Speaker 27 (02:39:40):
Thank you again, Brandon, and keep fighting for truth and
again ask questions and don't be afraid to a question.

Speaker 4 (02:39:51):
Is on the attack? Thanks Brandon.

Speaker 23 (02:39:56):
Were you only asking questions during the space or you
ma making claims as well?

Speaker 4 (02:40:03):
Why is let go on both? Okay? So so again
like there's the.

Speaker 39 (02:40:10):
The fall premise that you are only facilitating a conversation
or facilitating people asking questions.

Speaker 4 (02:40:18):
No, you started the space, you began with claims, claims
that and and somebody clipped it.

Speaker 23 (02:40:25):
He said that you didn't say Scott Wrestler. It got
millions of dollars, but he did right.

Speaker 3 (02:40:30):
And then and then you did know I said he
raised I said he raised Billy at the dollars.

Speaker 4 (02:40:35):
Okay, well he didn't know early vote action, did.

Speaker 3 (02:40:39):
I already I already gone, yeah, I corrected the record.

Speaker 1 (02:40:43):
We left to address the woman's claims, and we'd like
to move on.

Speaker 4 (02:40:48):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry you got.

Speaker 1 (02:40:50):
I'm just we understand how you feel.

Speaker 3 (02:40:53):
I also don't want to go back and forth like
until the end of types are trying to wrap up.

Speaker 4 (02:40:57):
I could if you'd like that.

Speaker 3 (02:40:58):
I'm happy to show you posts where Scott took credit
for Pennsylvania. I mean, there's one I remember very clearly.
Chris Mawory posted I'll never understand how this guy got elected,
and Scott went in the comments and wrote stop like
saying because of me, like.

Speaker 4 (02:41:17):
He had he had something to do with it.

Speaker 3 (02:41:20):
Right, Okay, all right, all right, yes, I'm just trying
to say that it's like, it's not it's not a
mystery why there's lots and lots and lots of people
who have been left with the impression that Scott Pressler
took sole credit. I mean, to read the comment, I'm
not the only person who I honestly do believe that
he got most of the credit. Like I'm not arguing that,

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but I don't think that.

Speaker 4 (02:41:43):
And this is what I said in the comments too,
I he there's no question.

Speaker 23 (02:41:47):
I don't think it's even a debate on whether or
not he got credit for winning Pennsylvania period.

Speaker 4 (02:41:54):
When a lot of people did work.

Speaker 23 (02:41:56):
When I was there, I met people well from all
types of organizations, include people including people working on their own,
not part of an organization to flip Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (02:42:14):
That right, all right, I guess you have to respect
that there are a whole lot of people who don't
agree with you on that, but I appreciate that's how
you see it that way, and I don't understand why,
but that's fine. Let's do the last couple of lands,
all right, that's all.

Speaker 4 (02:42:38):
Okay.

Speaker 40 (02:42:38):
So I'm going to be quick because it is late
here in Pennsylvania, like really late. But I've loved this space,
so thank you for having me. First of all, I
want to touch back on something.

Speaker 4 (02:42:53):
That well, first of all, let me just say this.

Speaker 40 (02:42:58):
I personally there's been a a variety of views on
this on this on this space, and that's totally fine.

Speaker 4 (02:43:04):
I respect all views.

Speaker 40 (02:43:05):
But I do feel that I feel that a valid
mail in ballot is generally valid as long as you
have people watching the whole process, which is a question.
So I was never against, you know, utilizing the mail
in ballot system to increase our voter turnout, right, I'm

(02:43:26):
against Acts seventy seven, which passed in twenty nineteen, which
basically gave us the mail in ballots.

Speaker 4 (02:43:32):
I want to go back to one day voting, which
I think pretty much I'll in Pennsylvania do.

Speaker 40 (02:43:50):
Associate with Scott Pressler or how I've seen him evolve
over time. That's what I wanted to talk about, and
it just took a couple of other things really quickly.
First of all, I thought, you know, when he first
came out many years ago, four or five years ago,

(02:44:12):
whatever it was, well, I guess for really pushing for Pennsylvania.

Speaker 4 (02:44:19):
To flip red.

Speaker 40 (02:44:20):
Right, So you have this issue where like he moved
to the county that I live in, which is Beaver County,
and in twenty I guess it was twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (02:44:33):
Or three, whatever the year it was.

Speaker 40 (02:44:36):
When he moved here, and then he kind of took
credit for like flipping the county.

Speaker 4 (02:44:40):
But the county was flipping.

Speaker 40 (02:44:42):
Since twenty twelve, right, if you look at the data,
it just it was trending more and more and more
red over time. And then he kind of took credit
for that because he got to like, you know, a
dozen photo ops where he knocked ones the door and
took a photo with people, and I just kind of, well,
you know, I don't know, that's kind of phony. It

(02:45:02):
was trending that way already. And then when you look
at the data, and this goes back to Tony's point
from out of the Vote, when you really analyze the data,
the gap between Like so the amount of people that
flipped from Democrat to Republican between the twenty fifteen and

(02:45:25):
twenty sixteen cycle right that election year was roughly three
hundred and twenty one thousand, but then in this past
cycle it was only two hundred and fifty nine thousand,
So that's roughly a twenty percent decrease. So it's not
like he increased the amount of people that were flipping.
And that's a consistent claim he makes that he's increasing

(02:45:47):
the amount of Democrats that are flipping to Republican. Well,
according to the public data, that's not true. He really
didn't increase anything. And at some point, in my opinion,
you have a limited number of people to flip because
this is quite a purple state. And that's true a
couple of other things. Basically, we had Scott on so

(02:46:13):
I'm on the steering committee of an organization called PA
Fair Elections and between us and Audit to Vote and
Toty's certainty too, and I work with Audit the Vote also,
so it's we're all simpatico there. But between the two organizations,
we're the largest two organizations that are statewide, I would say,
and we probably cover ninety plus percent of people that

(02:46:37):
are involved in any sort of election integrity statewide Organization's
god in the last election cycle really got involved, not
just in the election, registering voters right, which I actually
do agree is different than chasing ballots.

Speaker 4 (02:46:57):
We can get into that if you want.

Speaker 40 (02:46:58):
But he kind of acted like he was an election
integrity person and he's been posting a lot about elected integrity,
but it almost offends me, not personally, but on behalf
of the dozens and dozens, hundreds really of people that
we had working on election integrity in this state.

Speaker 4 (02:47:22):
And let me give you one example. Number one.

Speaker 40 (02:47:28):
He appeared before Luzerne County Board of Elections meetings and
gave public comment, which is his right because he did
move to Pennsylvania, but he moved to Beaver County. He
did not move to Luzerne County. And he stood up
twice on video, posted it on Facebook and on act

(02:47:49):
and other social media and said, Scott Prester Jenkins township
loser and county.

Speaker 4 (02:47:55):
Well, I find that to be dishonest.

Speaker 40 (02:47:58):
I think it's dishonest to lie about where you live
and where you're registered to vote before the Board of Elections,
which in Pennsylvania generally speaking in prize of the county commissioners.
So that alone kind of upset me. And then I
saw that when I watched the speech he gave, it

(02:48:20):
was a like maga rally speech, we got to get
behind President Trump and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:48:25):
And that's fine.

Speaker 40 (02:48:26):
It was a perfect speech for a political rally, but
that's not what you do if you're an election integrity professional. Okay,
if you're somebody that has ethics and professionalism, you keep
things nonpartisan at a Board of Elections meetings because that's
the way it's supposed to be. And honestly, that's what

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keeps elections spare is if they are nonpartisan, if you
have observers from both parties, if you have poll workers
from both parties, if there's a parody there, that's what
keeps things in check. And it kind of aggravated me
the way he did that, so, you know, and then

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there was this whole like the funding thing he's raised them,
like the money, I don't know. I glanced at briefly,
you know the FEC filings. I don't know how much
money he's personally taken from the pack, nor do I
really care, because it's almost without doing a deep investigation,
who knows any of the vendors if he's an investor

(02:49:29):
in them or gets money from the you know, the
vendors who I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:49:34):
That could be found out, but it would take a
deep investigation.

Speaker 40 (02:49:38):
But beyond that, one thing I want to corroborate that
Tony said I believe she said I heard her say
on this space, is that he was aware of the
API option, which is you can basically plug in trade
an app to register voters and track it and then

(02:49:59):
it to be public. Not necessarily the names and addresses.
I don't think of the voters who registered two year,
but the parties and all that would be registered for
a public in.

Speaker 4 (02:50:15):
Okay. Yeah, let me wrap up real quick.

Speaker 40 (02:50:18):
And the other thing I'm just a little bit frustrated
on Scott is we have a project going in Pennsylvania
right now with just to elect where I believe we're
the only state.

Speaker 4 (02:50:26):
I'll take a fact check if there's some.

Speaker 40 (02:50:28):
Other state, but I don't know of any that elect
our preasing Board of Elections. So preasing is like twelve
hundred voters ish or so. And when we vote on
election day, you have a judge of elections and to
inspected of elections. They're all up for election this year.
And he was asked multiple times by multiple people, and

(02:50:48):
I have screenshots of those pacts that he should be
pushing that if he's really interested in election integrity, and
apparently he's not, because he's not pushing that at all,
just asking people. He's interested in registering voters when there
were probably plenty of voters already registered. I think the
Cliff Maloney and Phase method of getting those low propensity

(02:51:15):
voters to actually vote was more effective, more than likely
than just registering new low propensity voters.

Speaker 4 (02:51:22):
And I'll digress their thanks for having me, appreciate.

Speaker 7 (02:51:24):
It all right, yes, ma'am. First off, Man, Brandon, my bro,
I appreciate you having me on Derek if he was
here still, Bro, I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (02:51:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:51:44):
I just want to say real quick man. First off,
what mother says. She was spot on, man critical thinking. Yeah,
it's going away big time. You can't see you can't
see things that are in front of you, know, more
because everybody's told what you know, social media is a
dangerous plate, which is why Brandon Richard, what you just saying,
Bro is so important, man, because at the end of

(02:52:04):
the day, Yeah, I'm gonna put it like this for
everybody that don't know. I'm a January sixth or right.
I got out of prison in uh February twenty twenty four.
When I got home, you know, I had lost everything.
I was borrowing all that stuff in twenty twenty and
that's how I made my living doing social media. So
when I lost everything and come home, I'm like, dang,
I got to rebuild from scratch. So I'm doing my thing,

(02:52:27):
you know, and I give me a house. I'm doing,
you know. Two months in, I'm doing good and then
I get a phone call say, yo, hey, Bro, Scott
Prush is gonna be out here in Chicago and he
wants to swing by and say and meet you. And
I'm like, all right, I don't even know who this
dude is. So he's like, yeah, he wants to come by.

Speaker 4 (02:52:43):
You available.

Speaker 7 (02:52:43):
I'm like, yeah, I'm good man. When you're trying to
come by, He's like, we gonna come by tomorrow. I'm
like all right too. And the person that called me,
I'm like, I messed with dude, so it's cool if
he comes by. I really don't like strangers coming to
my house, but you know, dudes all right, So I'm
gonna let him slide. So he comes by. So and
he comes in, I'm like, Okay, what's going on. He's like, yo, Bro,
you know I've seen your stuff from before. I'm a

(02:53:05):
huge fan and you know. And I'm like, cool, what's
going on. He's like, Bro, we're campaigning for Trump and
we're trying to get the early votes and trying to
encourage people to early vote.

Speaker 4 (02:53:15):
And he said he had the ear.

Speaker 7 (02:53:16):
Like you know, I don't know what's her name, Laura
Trump and all this good stuff. I'm like, all right,
that's what's up. I'm like, already, make content, you know,
That's what I do. I make content helping the campaign.
He was like, yeah, you know, I just I really
feel like you could be a big part of the movement.

Speaker 4 (02:53:29):
And I'm gonna give him his credit.

Speaker 7 (02:53:31):
He came out here and he did he went to
some meeting out here, and I'm not taking away from
nothing that bro did because I've seen him out there
you know. I mean he was doing this thing. I'm
not challenging anything that he was doing with gathering votes
or whatever, trying to.

Speaker 4 (02:53:42):
Get people two vote.

Speaker 7 (02:53:44):
All kudos to him for that, but my right put
him is a little more I guess personal being somebody
that was coming home from prison and he was like,
you know, I see what they did to you and
it was wrong. I want to help you rebuild. And
I'm like, all right, cool man's that's what's up. Definitely
get it. So he ends up leaving. He goes, I
need you to just to make a video, you know,

(02:54:05):
a different style video and just be talking straight to
the camera like how you used to, and just say
what's on your mind and get encourage people to go vote.
I'm my god, bet and I did that. He's like,
and I'm gonna share it out and we're gonna rebuild stuff.
I'm like, all right, cool, So I made a video.

Speaker 4 (02:54:19):
I'm like, yo, here's the video. Sit in the video
and he was like, okay, cool, I got you, my guy. Nothing, bro,
I'm talking about nothing.

Speaker 7 (02:54:26):
Everybody took the video except for him, Like everybody else
took the video. The video went crazy on excess and
it was shared by a whole bunch of different people
without me knowing, Like they just downloaded it and re uploaded.
Did they think with it? So that's what's up. But
uh yeah, man, I was just shocked. I'm like, yo,
what's going on? So then I'm like whatever, I ain't
I ain't petty, I ain't gonna trip on it, you know.

(02:54:48):
So later on after the election happens, this is months later. Now,
the election happens, Trump wins, I'm a live stream, and
you know, I got Scott Snyder started calling hi him
like yo, I wanted to give him a shot out
for the work that he did, do you know in Pennsylvania.
He answered, and I'm like, yo, I'm gonna put you
on real quick. And he was like, oh, give me
a second, I'm gonna call me back at nine. I'm like,
all right that, So I call it back in nine nothing,

(02:55:09):
and it's like, bro, just gave the cold shoulder. So
then when I hear your video and I'm listening to
what you're saying, and then all these people start sending
me all this different stuff, you know, with like the
you know, the conspiracy stuff about General Flynn and General
Flynn babies and I watch your video piece and all
this stuff together, and I'm over here scratching my head
like is this something?

Speaker 4 (02:55:30):
Is this something more to all of this that's going on?

Speaker 7 (02:55:33):
Then we can see, you know what I'm saying, Is
it more like like you said, what's the what's the
angle behind it?

Speaker 4 (02:55:39):
Like?

Speaker 7 (02:55:39):
Why why is people coming in here? Like you got
a lot of Flynn babies in your in your in
your space right now? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (02:55:45):
And I'm wondering, like.

Speaker 7 (02:55:47):
Why are people coming in and saying things that we
would expect people on the left, the extreme left to say,
not not regular left, but like the radical people to say, oh,
we're okay with it being a little bit of patents
on as we win and this is cool, and it's like, nah, bro,
it's something that's going on right here. And then trying
to attract these other social media influences like how you Brandon,
how he reached out to you when you was, you know,

(02:56:09):
a hot come out of the again and trending on
X and he reaches out trying to get cool with you,
you know what I'm saying, But when he was going
through your hard time, nowhere to be found. It's like,
I don't know, maybe I'm just making something out of nothing,
but it's making me scratch my head over here. The
more I'm listening to people and looking into things, you
know what I'm saying, That's all I got. Man, God
bless each and every one of you, all y'all, man,

(02:56:30):
and even God bless Scott bro I hope that you know,
if he is into some other stuff that's not right,
that he'll fix his heart, you know what I'm saying,
and not be like that and be a man of
his word. That's my big thing. That's really, that's the
biggest problem that I got. I don't like people that's
not a man of their word.

Speaker 4 (02:56:45):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (02:56:47):
Thank you, Cash, appreciate that. Shall are we wrapping up?

Speaker 1 (02:56:52):
We are wrapping up. I want to thank everybody who's
been a request. Make it ry, guys. It has been
a long home tonight with a lot of We did
do our best and we love both.

Speaker 38 (02:57:05):
Uh here and that I'm very glad to have. So Branton,
We're ready.

Speaker 4 (02:57:16):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (02:57:17):
I want to thank everybody for coming in tonight. I
want to thank everyone for listening and having a conversation.
You know, I guess I don't really totally know what
to say. I I I could say that it was
very important to me to release this, and by release it,
I don't just mean like literally release the video, but
I mean release it from inside of me. My whole

(02:57:39):
thing is like now it's out there. I I wanted
to get these thoughts out of my head and out
of my heart and just put them out into the universe.
And you know, unless I see, uh, further dishonesty or
further things that I'm I'm questioning are skeptical about. You know,
I'm busy with Walkway. Tomorrow, I'm getting on a plane.

(02:58:00):
I'm going to Wisconsin. I'm doing an event on Tuesday.
Since I get back, I'm going to New Jersey. We
have a bunch of Walkway into New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (02:58:06):
We're going to be in Virginia.

Speaker 3 (02:58:08):
That is my focus, that's my thing. But I am always,
at the end of the day going to have a
powerful desire to seek truth and to expose what I
consider to be untruths that are happening. And that's going
to happen on both sides of the aisle. And I'm
not naive, I'm not stupid. Of course, I knew that

(02:58:31):
when I put this out, I'm going to lose followers.
People are going to pick sides. Some people are going
to not take my side. I get it, and it
is what it is. But I value the truth above
all things. I do think that something is wrong. If
I'm wrong about it, I hope Scott addresses it, and

(02:58:51):
like I said, if he can bring the receipts to
back up the claims that he's made, I will publicly
apologize and I'll make a donation to his organization. Happy
to do that something that's going to happen, because I'm very,
very confident he has not been honest with any of us,
and I think that his motivations for not being honest were.

Speaker 4 (02:59:08):
Not good or pure.

Speaker 3 (02:59:10):
But I'll remain open minded about it, and if he
ever decides to address it, and I hope he does,
we'll go from there.

Speaker 4 (02:59:16):
And if he ever wants.

Speaker 3 (02:59:17):
To pick me up on my offer to have a
conversation about it openly, I hope he does. I saw
some people in the comments of the video saying, Oh,
this is petty, and you guys should have you should
have addressed this privately. I called the video part one
for that reason. I wanted to explain to you guys
my personal experience with his character and the type of

(02:59:38):
person that I believe him now to be. And I
think that anybody lacking in that kind of integrity and
character is also it's not that big of a leap
to believe that that.

Speaker 4 (02:59:48):
Person is also not being honest or genuine.

Speaker 3 (02:59:50):
With the public at large about what the accomplishments of
these claiming and a number of other things.

Speaker 4 (02:59:58):
So anyway, I have to say what I had to say.
I had to do what I had to do.

Speaker 3 (03:00:03):
I hope people can respect it or appreciate it, even
if they don't agree.

Speaker 4 (03:00:06):
This is not what my life is about now.

Speaker 3 (03:00:08):
My life is all about walk Away and I can't
wait to get back to work tomorrow in Wisconsin, and.

Speaker 4 (03:00:13):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (03:00:14):
So I mean, I guess we're going to leave things
a little bit unresolved because Scott didn't come.

Speaker 4 (03:00:19):
But I hope at some point.

Speaker 3 (03:00:20):
That he does and this gets addressed, and I hope
we can put a period at the end of this
at some point.

Speaker 4 (03:00:26):
But I guess, you know, again.

Speaker 3 (03:00:29):
I'll just wrap it up by saying I hope people
can understand and appreciate I needed to say what I
needed to say, and I need to ask the question
that I have And I'm only asking these questions because
I care so deeply about the conservative movement and that
I do believe that what has happened since the November
election has had catastrophic consequences on the morale of the grassroots,

(03:00:52):
and I think that it is going to have negative
impacts on our elections going forward.

Speaker 4 (03:00:57):
That's how I feel. But with that, I love everybody in.

Speaker 3 (03:01:00):
The space, even the people who don't agree with me,
even the people who are not going to take my
side or who are going to and to follow me.
I do care about each and every one of you,
and I care about the entire conservative movement. And God
speed to all of us, and may MAGA in America
first continue to prevail.

Speaker 7 (03:01:16):
And with that, I'll close out the space.

Speaker 4 (03:01:18):
So are you good? Thank you for helping me.

Speaker 3 (03:01:22):
I thanks everyone for coming to listen, and my deepest
qualities to those who didn't get a chance to talk
with The space went on forever.

Speaker 5 (03:01:33):
All right, there you have it.

Speaker 4 (03:01:34):
Follow me on exit.

Speaker 31 (03:01:35):
Brian Ferris one Brian Faris dot com, magmapodcast dot com.

Speaker 2 (03:01:39):
You heard that, you know Scott Presser was too much
of a coward to join the space.

Speaker 4 (03:01:43):
He said, some of those shows and you know they
just gaslated.

Speaker 2 (03:01:46):
Didn't address any the questions, didn't addressing the data.

Speaker 4 (03:01:49):
Real Scott Presser dot com. Thank you, God, blessing