Scott Presler's False Narratives Exposed by Data and Evidence X Space

Scott Presler's False Narratives Exposed by Data and Evidence X Space
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true discernment and wisdom, so that the truth may be
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And I asked this in Jesus' name. Amen, thank you
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over there while I'm talking about it, and I'm going
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as Mark comes on, I will uh introduce him as
the co host, and then after I'm done speaking, we
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I'm also adding you as a co host. I sent
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I'm not sure how it's setting to you. It looks
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got it, all right?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And then Mark, before you joined, you know, I opened
us with a prayer that you know, we everyone here
on the call and the speakers have a spirit of
discernment and wisdom, and that you know, any bad actors
be silenced.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
UH.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Any technical hurdle, hurdles be overcome so that the truth
can be told. And I just kind of again laid
down the ground rules, so please help me enforce that that.
You know, we're not gonna we're not going to focus
on any personal tax or personal lifestyle choices. We're to
focus on the data. And if any of the speakers
violate that, they'll they'll be muted and then demoted down

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to UH to listener. So we're going to just focus
on the data. It's on real Scott Pressler dot com
is what I'm gonna be reviewing first, and then Mark
will be the second speaker, UH, and then I have
as the third speaker will be David Gordon from the
Virginia Project, and then the fourth speaker will be Tony
Shoot from Audit the Vote PA. And then we will

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we will go in order with some additional speakers after that.
I think probably Zach and then Emmy after that. But again,
please do follow you know those rules for this space.
All right, I'm gonna go ahead and get started, so
please do visit Realscott Pressler dot com. And you know

(03:39):
there's some important questions there that's asked you know, who
is the real Scott Presler? Is this really a you know,
there's a quote it's like a homeless dog walker that
picks up trash. You know, there's there's some other questions
like is that truly what's happening here? And then you
know there's some evidence that and i'd like to start
off with you know, there's a video that mister Presler

(04:02):
and Early Vote Action posted. It's on the Early Vote
Action X account pinned at the top, and it's basically
promising a win in the Wisconsin Supreme Court election. It's saying,
you know, we're gonna deliver, We're gonna win. We're gonna
ballot chase, you know, download our Early Vote Action app.
We're gonna you know, push mail in voting, push early voting,

(04:23):
and we're gonna win. And of course that's that's not
what happened. It was a historic loss. Susan Crawford defeated
Brad Schimmel by nearly two hundred and thirty thousand votes,
a ten percent margin of victory. So clearly Scott Prester
and Early Vote Action and turning points plans and game

(04:44):
plan was not effective. It did not deliver victory. That's
just the facts and this was this was the second
crushing defeat because prior to that, in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania,
we saw the Senate seat which had previously been held

(05:04):
by Republican for thirty five consecutive years, and that was
kind of a shock loss. So on the website again
real Scott Pressler dot com, it talks about it shows
a bunch of screenshots and so, as you know, Scott
Presler and Turning Point, they're there in Wisconsin, they're there
in Pennsylvania. You know, there's a lot of money and
a lot of fundraising going on. They put their full

(05:26):
time and effort into these efforts. There's a number of
screenshots showing them door knocking, you know, promoting their app,
get out the vote, make calls. You know, Scott Presler
was on the ground with multiple other influencers. So all
of their efforts were there in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, including fundraising.

(05:47):
There were several nationwide fundraiser emails and texts that went out.
Scott Presler said in one, I need help. I'm too
busy chasing ballots in Wisconsin to write a catchy text.
Please sponsor a ballot chaser, And of course, these links
went to win red, which is which is another point
of concern and contention. I'm not going to die too

(06:09):
deep into wind Red, but you know, I would recommend
never donating win red. You should always donate to a
candidate or a charity or a cause directly, do not
go through win Red. There's lots of reasons why. We'll
cover that lately but later. But there's a lot of
other texts and emails. One was one said ballot chasers
in the Wisconsin Supreme Court are running on fumes. We

(06:32):
desperately need sponsors, Scott Presler, and then an email that
went out to also nationwide sponsor a ballot chaser. We
don't have a minute to waste, and I know I
can count on you, Scott Presler, founder of Early Vote Action.
Now we do have and we will be talking about
some of the data specifically in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in

(06:54):
twenty twenty four. And I don't want to, you know,
steal the thunder of audit the vote PA and but
I do want to mention that there is a chart
there that shows the increase in Republican registrations by presidential
election cycle. So you know, mister Presler claimed, he made
a lot of claims. He said, you know, we registered
fifty thousand people. You know, we delivered Pennsylvania. We're here

(07:18):
on the ground. But the reality, if you look at
the increase in Republican registrations by presidential cycle, they've been decreasing,
decreasing from you know, twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen, twenty
nineteen to twenty twenty, twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four.
This is all evidenced and sourced with public data from

(07:40):
PA dot gov. Please do a look on real Scott
Presler dot com and I'm sure that Tony from autobau
will cover that in more detail. But basically, this disproves
one of Scott Presler's claims that you know, they're making
all these registrations and it's really it's making the difference,
and that's that's really not what happened. We'll look at

(08:00):
some other things there, but I just want to jump
briefly to Wisconsin. Well really I'm going to talk about
Wisconsin and Pennsylvania together because one of the things that
Scott Presler posted very publicly on his ex he was
talking about fraud or the lack of fraud, and what
he said was, I stand by my comments. You are

(08:23):
wrongfully telling people the election was rigged when it wasn't.
You have no evidence that there was any wrongdoing in
this election. So one question is, you know, why is
Scott Presler so committed to denying the existence of fraud.
We just had I believe it was Tulca Gabbard come

(08:45):
out and mentioned, yes, there is machine fraud. We have
documented evidence of it. We're going to do special investigations
into this. Elon Musk mentioned in Wisconsin at a rally
that over two million social Security now were stolen basically
used by illegal immigrants. They did use them to register
to vote, they did use them to vote. So clearly

(09:08):
there is election fraud. So why is mister Presler saying
that there's not. And of course, when anyone asked him
on that or questions it like a very large account
MJ truth Ultra was doing and he provided screenshots very
politely questioning him, Scott Presser blocked him. He denied it.
He blocks anyone that questions him. It's a big problem. Anyways,

(09:31):
let's go back a little bit to Pennsylvania. So when
we're talking about Pennsylvania, There's a couple things. One was,
you know, the registrations and specifically these claims about the
Amish registrations. There was a lot of claims that. There's
one that Scott Presser made on November fourteenth, twenty twenty four.

(09:52):
It says our Amish voter registration helped deliver Pennsylvania for Trump?
But is that is that accurate? Are those claims true?
So we look at that again. On real Scott Pressler
dot com. There are reports of falsifying statistics, falsifying number

(10:13):
of doors knocked, falsifying registration numbers. Mister Pressler famously claimed,
you know, fifty thousand were registered, where his number two
employee at Early Vote Action just nine days prior to
that claimed it was only ten thousand that were registered.
So it's impossible, according to you know, people on the
ground to register that many people in just nine days.

(10:37):
So what is happening there? Is that an inflation of
those numbers. Is that what's happening in Pennsylvania. Let's see.
So I want to go back a little bit. So
mister Pressler when he launched his Early Vote Action pack,
he did a press press release. I believe he was
in twenty twenty three. What he says is this organization

(10:58):
aims to build early slash mail in voting infrastructures in
order to win the White House. But many election integrity
experts point out the fraud that's inherent in mail in
voting and early voting. And I'll give an example out

(11:19):
of Maricopa County, Arizona, famous for fraud. I'm from Arizona.
In Arizona, Maricopa County, there was a large number of
early voting and mail and voting that happened for the
first twenty eight days of voting season. And one of
the problems is the data reveals that none of those

(11:41):
signatures were rejected zero for signature verification during the first
twenty eight days. That's about a million ballots. So this
data has been verified by an organization here in Arizona
that access to the signature verification. So it looks like,
possibly intentionally or maybe accidentally, no signature verification was done

(12:04):
on any of those early voting or mail in voting ballots.
In americop accounting Arizona, that's a million ballots. But then
as soon as the early voting the next after that
twenty eighth day, all of a sudden we saw rejections
on signature verification, which was more in line with the
normal numbers. So this is one indication of a level

(12:24):
of fraud in early voting and mail in voting. And
you have to ask how many of these illegal aliens
that have social Security numbers that are registered to vote
in our voting are they voting through mail in voting
early voting? And is it even them voting is it
just their ballots that are being voted. So that's a
couple questions for mister Presler. There in Wisconsin, there was

(12:47):
concerns from Cause of America reported ten percent of all
registrations were not living at the address they were registered
in and they pointed out a number that had moved
out of the state permanently, that were registered to vote
in the wrong county, that were registered to vote at
a vacant address. Derek Evans pointed out nearly five thousand

(13:08):
illegal voter registrations in Milwaukee are on the voter rules
and quoted the city election Commission refused to investigate them.
Red Wave Press reported again on Doje and Elon Musk
all of those two million illegal immigrants, and this is
a quote from Antonio gracius, they did vote. We found

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some by sampling that actually did vote, and we have
referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service.
So why are Scott Presler and to a certain extent
turning point and Charlie Kirk ignoring this proven fraud, this
false acclaiming it doesn't exist, blaming everyone under the sun,

(13:52):
rather than their methods of ballot chasing, early voting and
mail in voting, which, according to the results in Wisconsin
and Pennsylvania, do not work and do not win elections. Next,
I'd like to go to let's see there's a there's

(14:15):
some more data on the Amish voting, so I'm jumping
back to there. So Scott Presser mentioned, and this is
all reference on real Scott Presser dot com, that a
post from doctor Jan Halper. She said, if Trump wins Pennsylvania,
we owe it to this man at Scott Pressler. He
registered one hundred and eighty thousand Amish first time voters.

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He worked tirelessly. Please send a thank you to Scott,
and Scott Presler replied, thank you, doctor Jan. We did it.
My heart is exploding with happiness. My cup is full.
So there's a problem with that, and that the state
of Pennsylvania, according to multiple sources, has no more than
ninety three thousand Amish. Of that ninety three thousand, only

(15:00):
forty six thousand, five hundred approximately are over eighteen and
eligible to vote. In the Amish population, a large percentage
of the home is under eighteen children. According to Young
Center and the Discovered Lancaster site, the total Amish population
in Lancaster County. In Chester County is at most forty

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three thousand, six hundred and forty with thirty eighty four
hundred living in Lancaster County and only about eleven thousand
to seventeen thousand eligible to vote. Groc also was cited
that Pressler claimed to register one hundred and eight thousand
Amish voters in Lancaster, but fact checking shows this is

(15:44):
likely inflated, as the total population in Pennsylvania is far
smaller and typical Amish voting rates are less than ten percent,
So this is just another example of an inflated and
false claim. Once he was called down on it, Scott Pressler,
to be fair, did say he revised it down. He said,
I love this, but in the spirit of being accurate,

(16:06):
there are only ninety thousand amors statewide in Pennsylvania. We're
registering a lot of homors to vote. But I think
this is a little generous, So of course he's correcting
it way after the fact, after he has millions and
millions of views. I believe that first post was viewed
at least nine million times, and then he doesn't give
any accurate numbers. There's no there's no data on how

(16:27):
many he did, how many he did register. So according
to Leeds Stories and Amy Gooley, a Pennsylvania Department State spokeswoman,
she uh these these are all linked again on real
Scott pressler dot com. It points out that the voter
voter registration broken down by counties in a spreadsheet and

(16:49):
poting posted on voting and election statistics through the Department
of State and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania show that, according
to this data, Republican voters in Lancaster increased by ten thousand,
five hundred and forty six between January first, twenty twenty
four and October twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. Again, this

(17:13):
seems to refute the claims that mister Prester registered a
large number of Amish and that it made any significant
difference in Pennsylvania and specifically Lancaster County, which had previously
voted read for Trump by a large margin. Really, there
was no reason to even be in Lancaster County because
it was so read and so pro Trump. I will

(17:36):
talk about those statistics right now. So in twenty twenty,
President Trump won one hundred and sixty thousand, two hundred
and nine votes over Joe Biden one hundred and fifteen thousand,
eight hundred and forty seven. That's a huge margin of victory.

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And in twenty twenty four, President Trump one with one
hundred and sixty six thousand, two hundred and sixty one
votes compared to Kamala Harris one hundred and twenty thousand,
one hundred and nineteen. So this is only an increase
of six fifty two votes. Specifically in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
Both times Trump handily won, so there was no reason

(18:19):
to even be there in Lancaster County in Pennsylvania. Let's see.
So Scott Pressler, he's also made a lot of claims
about Republicans not turning out in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, which
is the reason that they lost. But again the data

(18:40):
shows that's not the case. Republicans did turn out, and
what happened was is a certain percentage of those Republican
ballots voted Democrat. Now there's been questions mister Pressler and
turning point, Charlie Kirk. They love to register what they
call low propensity Republican voters. These low propensity Republican voters

(19:04):
are voters that are not likely to vote in the election,
so they went out and registered them to vote. Well,
it looks like based on the data, if you're not
even talking about fraud, you're not even talking about illegals voting,
it looks like through their registration efforts, the result was
a number of those low propensity voters voted Democrat, directly

(19:26):
causing the loss. That's what a lot of people are questioning.
That's what the data seems to support. We'll talk about
that in more detail. Now, let's talk a little bit
about the benefit to mister Presler in this His pack
early Vote action has raised nearly seven million dollars, so
on the backs of delivering these two losses Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

(19:49):
mister Presler's pack has raised seven million dollars Prior to that,
Charlie Kirkin. Turning Point pledged five million dollars to mister
Presler and ballot chasing initiatives, so I don't know exactly
if that's additive. Turning Point has made some separate sixty
thousand dollars donations to his pack, but there's a lot
of money and a lot of benefit. Liz Harrington of

(20:10):
War Rooms said something stinks in Pennsylvania. The thirty sixth
district has not had a Democrat state senator since it
moved from Philadelphia to Lancaster County in nineteen seventy nine.
Lancaster County went plus sixteen for Trump just four months ago,
and yet we're supposed to believe Republicans put the Democrat

(20:31):
candidate over the top with mail in votes.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
I e.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
There was there were more mail in votes for the
Democrat candidate than Democrat voters who represented them. That's also
referenced on Real Scott Presler dot com. Presler was challenged
by MJ truth Alter, saying, this morning, I posted about
real concerns all of us had regarding the Pennsylvania special
elections that took place. I received an unfriendly message from

(20:58):
Scott Presler demanding me to stop spreading quote in misinformation.
My concerns were one, the vote tallies were within a
point eighty nine percent margin, suggesting an algorithm was used.
Two Democrats always start off with a thirty percent mail
in ballot lead. I appreciate Scott's work more than most,

(21:19):
but I will not be silenced as a voter who
has very real concerns that still exists that we can
see with our own eyes. Why does Scott Presser not
recognize that mail in ballots and voting machines are still
a problem. Even Donald Trump recognizes this and vocally demands
we move away from voting machines to paper ballots and

(21:39):
limit mail in voting because it's ripe with fraud. Everyone
should ask Scott why he ignores these issues. Does everyone
feel like mail in ballots and voting machines are not
an issue anymore? Scott? Please read the room and shortly
after that, Scott Presler blocked him on x SO, preventing
him from commenting on that. There's some other posts and

(22:03):
comments in there, but I do want to talk about
the mail breakdown of the thirty six senatorial district again.
Tony from Audit the Vote PA may cover this in
more detail. What you can see. For the Democrat there
was sent eight five hundred and thirty six ballots. Returned
results for the Democrat were eight hundred and sixty nine.

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For the Republicans, sent was five four hundred and fifty one,
and then the return result for the Republican was three thousand,
five hundred and forty seven. So this data seems to
indicate that some of those Republican ballots were voted for
the Democrat. It also shows that the Republicans did turn
out in approximately the same rate they do for off

(22:49):
season elections and special elections. All right, let's go back
to Pressler's pack, so nearly seven million dollars in twenty
three and twenty twenty four. Let's look into some of
those donations again. This is on real scottpresler dot com.
Through open secrets, you can see screenshots. Anyone can querry

(23:10):
this two donations from the Rockefeller family, donating at least
one hundred and eighteen thousand and twenty twenty four. And
the question that came to everyone's mind was how how
would Scott Presler end up in a room with the Rockefellers.
Typically with donations of this size, the donor would want
an in person meeting, maybe hand off the check in person.

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So did Scott Presler meet in person with the Rockefellers?
How did they? How did you get these donations? And
the Rockefellers, you know, they are one of the wealthiest
and most prominent families in America, but also one of
the most infamous. And there's history of allegations of corruption
misuse of influence over global systems. This includes control of

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the Federal Reserve, global banking through Chase Manhattan Bank, include
the creation of the US Federal Reserve in nineteen thirteen,
implementing big pharma and medical industry domination. This was through
the Rockefeller Foundation. Other New World order through initiatives through

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the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, which
was established by David Rockefeller. There's a lot of discussion
and allegations of population control and funding and eugenics programs
in the early twentieth century, and later global health initiatives
including vaccines and the COVID nineteen vaccine through the Rockefeller Foundation.

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Further corruption of the education system to eliminate critical thinking
and deliver compliant workers based on donations to the university
of Chicago and the General Education Board. So some important questions.
Since we're on financial topics, there's an article from Kartik
pra top This is a Club India article that writes

(25:01):
a lot of articles on networth. According to Kartik, he
estimates Scott Presler's annual income at seven hundred thousand dollars.
In the article, he also mentions that mister Presler inherited
a free five hundred and fifty thousand dollars home and
has a net worth of four million dollars. Also, we
have a couple receipts showing that mister Presler received an

(25:24):
over one hundred thousand dollars free diesel suburban in twenty
twenty four. Allegedly, mister Presler owns a three hundred and
twenty thousand dollars apartment in downtown Pittsburgh and supposedly allegedly
another home which is currently selling in Pennsylvania. So this
is not really a we brought this up at the beginning.

(25:45):
This is not really a homeless dog walker, and this
is someone that means and coming from a family of means.
And speaking of family, mister Presler's father, Robert Presler, he
was you can see the screenshot again on real Scott
Presler dot com. He was a director of Information Operations
in the DASD. There's a screenshot which shows Scott Presser

(26:08):
wishing a happy Father's Day to his father in the
photo and Robert Pressler's LinkedIn it shows he was a
worked for the United States Department of Defense, Director of
Information Operations in the Pentagon, Director of Global Force Planning
in the Pentagon, and then a program manager of counter

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terrorism training and Equipment. So why is that importance. The
reason it's important is because there's been several allegations that
Scott Presser has been using either artificial intelligence bots or
paid influencers or some type of government intelligence or other

(26:50):
program for ex platform manipulation, including reputation management. There's several
screenshots there focusing on the phrase Scott Presler is a
national Treasure. Between February seventh and February ninth, this was
posted many, many times in nearly identical phrases, something that's

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been seen before through identical propaganda bots for example Kamala
Harris or pro pro Ukraine or pro Russia messages. And
then some of these are from influencers, but think of
snap soda, where right wing influencers were paid to question,
wait a minute, why are we preventing people on government

(27:34):
assistance from buying sugary soda? Well, it was revealed that
they were paid by the pro soda lobbyists to say that.
So these messages that appear they seem to be created
potentially by bots or paid influencers. It could be through
either Turning Point Action or his Early Vote Action app.
And just a note there, both of those apps were

(27:57):
created by a company named super Feed technolog or He's Incorporated,
which was created by Turning Point. Turning Point Chief operating
Officer Tyler Boyer is currently the chairman of the board
and the CEO. So there's some really strong ties there,
So some good, good questions. But you see in these
nine pages of screenshots almost this identical phrase Scott Preslers

(28:20):
and National Treasure. Scott Presser's and National Treasure. These were
all posted in response to criticism of Scott Pressler that
he should be quote unquote kicked out of the MAGA movement.
So these do not seem very authentic. But we're going
to cover a little bit more. Why so. Emerald Robinson
posted a tweet September twenty sixth, twenty twenty four, and

(28:43):
what she says is, behold, the entire fan base of
Scott Presler is in the comments section of my tweets
day and night. Look at all these DoD spooks screaming
vote early. Really makes you think. So there's several influencers
and some reporters that have noticed there seems to be
some authentic or potentially platform manipulation going on, potentially around

(29:07):
reputation management. There's some other information about grock and how
that's used, but we've seen this before use with Turning Points.
So in a recent AZGOP chairman election, again led by
chief operating Officer Tyler Boyer, there was a screenshot at
evidence of a coordinated smear campaign in an attempt to

(29:29):
influence the election. It was the same message posted over
and over all by paid Turning Point employees that add
the Turning Point symbol in their profile. All those screenshots
are there in real Scott Pressler dot com. All right,
so let's tie this together. Scott Pressler's father mentioned in
an intelligence d D report on influencing political outcomes these

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very tactics mister Pressler, Robert Pressler actually sponsored the report
and he's fainked. In the ignowledg lagement of report, it's
called improving C two and situational Awareness for operations in
and through the information Environment. It's one hundred page report.
The acknowledgements say we wish to thank our various points

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of content, our contact and interlocuters in the sponsoring office,
Bob Presler. Now there's some very interesting excerpts. I'll read
just a few of them again. This is on influencing
political outcomes through social media and technology. The report talks
about a lot of things, including mammatic warfare. What is

(30:37):
mammatic warfare From the report, it's a well, actually from
a definition, it's a form of modern information warfare and
psychological warfare that involves the propagation of memes on social
media to influence public opinion. Yes, using memes in psychologic
psychological warfare to influence public opinion. On page thirty two

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the report, it mentions mathmatic warfare. On page fourteen of
the report, it mentions, I'll read this quote. When a
post by a user has been met with an inundation
of flaming by other users, the initial user may be
hesitant or suppressed to post again. While expressing similar views.

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So what does this mean. It means exactly what happened
to Emerald Robinson. If she posts criticism of Scott Presler,
these bots or micro influencers come in and with this
flaming technique, they tried to discourage her from posting that again,
usually through gas lighting, saying, oh, you're an idiot, you're stupid.
Scott Presler's a national treasure. That's what the evidence shows.

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On page eighty eight, there's another quote which says, additionally,
social media platforms were infiltrated by foreign bots and automated retweets.
An analysis that fails to account for these facts with
having negative value, it would mislead instead of inform. And
this is the last quote I'll read. On page ninety

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seven to ninety eight of this report commissioned by Robert
Pressler for the Department of Defense, it says the utility
of using automation can be seen in Russian factories of
people overseeing propaganda and trolling bots running many accounts that
are near identical or use slight variation on the same message,

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perhaps via automated rephrasing. The sheer volume of content posted
on social media sites as possible only via automation, with
reactions and responses to the post controlled manually. These are
near mad com processes, and they suggest how hard it
would be to distinguish sophisticated, fully automated propaganda from human

(32:50):
generated propaganda. All right, I've covered a couple things. There's
a couple other information that it's on the website Real
Scott Presser dot com. But I do want to go
to some of the other speakers. I'm going to turn
it over very shortly to Mark Cook from the Handcount
road Show. Before I do that, Mark, I just want

(33:11):
to re emphasize the rules for the speakers. We're not
going to focus on personal tacks. We're not going to
focus on personal life choices. We're going to focus on
the data and disproving any false narratives that mister Presler
may be putting out there. So with that, Mark, do
you want to do you want to unmute your mic
and start speaking?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Sure, I more than happy to.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
All right, cool, and give a.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Brief introduction to yourself. Mark, Sorry, no, no problem.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
So yeah, Handcount road Show actually showed up after all
of this stuff. But my so I'm an Ikey guy
from Colorado, and I got involved in the twenty twenty
election because of Stone Wrestler. So I'm gonna take you
through the story of my experience so everyone can understand

(34:07):
everything through my eyes and what I saw. And I
was also duped by him early on. And so I
met Scott first. I think it was a year or
tube before the twenty twenty election, and it was out
in Washington, d C. At the Trump Hotel. In the
basement of the hotel, there was an event with Denesh

(34:30):
Desuza and Scott was there. Will Witt was there. I
knew who will Wit was because I was watching him
on YouTube for some time before that, and so I
got to talk to him. I saw this tall, skinny guy,
which happened he Stuff Presler, but I didn't really make
the connection of who he was. And then let's see here,

(34:50):
that's where I first met him. Shook his hand, that's it.
Then I saw these riots happen, you know, beyond an
Antifa stuff went on, and all of a sudden, Scott
Presler is out there cleaning up the streets and filling
up trash cans. You know, really cool activists that is
helping fix our cities, which I thought was really neat.

(35:13):
And then we'll fast forward twenty twenty election. Okay, So
now I watched the election nights over in Tampa, Florida
with American Priority Festival people, and November fourth, it was
twilight zone for me and probably for a whole lot
of the country. And I'm getting ready to head back

(35:33):
to Colorado after a crazy election night, you know, stop
counting and all that fun stuff. And I'm on the
plane and I looked down on my phone literally walking
onto the plane to get on it, and I look
down on my phone and I see a Facebook post
from Scott Presler saying heading to Pennsylvania or going to Pennsylvania.
Need help. And I was rary to go at this

(35:55):
point because of what had just happened. I really truly
believe that that our election may have been manipulated. At
that point, I just the results did not match everything
that I had seen and expected, and so I wanted
to do something about it, get to the bottom of it,
bring attention to etc. And I saw that, I'd like,
all right, I want to go do something. This guy,

(36:16):
Scott Pressler knows how to get stuff done. I'm going
to reach out and offer to help them, but I
didn't have a way to get a hold of because
I never had his phone. So I reached out to
someone that i'd watched the election with the night before,
and I asked if she could find Scott's number for me.
In about thirty seconds later, I get a text message
and it's Scott's phone numer. So I called the number

(36:39):
and I was shocked that a guy answered and it
was Scott. So I said, hey, Scott, my name is Mark.
I met you years ago. You won't remember me, but
I saw your message if you're going to Pennsylvania that
you need help. I'm doing on a plane about to
go back to Colorado, but I'm already kind of on
the East coast anyway, Do you want my help in Pennsylvania?

(37:00):
And he said yes, I would love it, because he
was driving his van to Pennsylvania at that moment. So
I said, okay, Enuff said I will reroute and I
will go to Pennsylvania instead. So I said, I'll call
you right back. I turned around, got back off the plane,
told him I had a family emergency and called Scott.
He said, okay, what's going on? What are we doing?

(37:22):
And that's what they came up with Stop the Steel
Rally that he wanted to do on the Capitol steps
at Pennsylvania. So I said, okay, I'm totally in. How
can I help? I said, yeah, you have signed, we
have a bullet hoorn, like he said, I've seen rallies before.
You got to have the bullet horn in the signs
and I didn't have signs made. And I said, okay,
well I get some signs made. I'm sitting here. I

(37:42):
can't get a flight out until the morning, so I
will work on getting signs. So I reached out all
over Facebook to try to find people that were in Pennsylvania.
I found a couple moms that were there, and we
worked together to create very simples stop the Steel sign
literally red writing on white background. And if you look
at the stop the Steel pictures, so use a cirt

(38:04):
your favorite search engine. Look for stop the Steel Rally
in Pennsylvania in twenty twenty November fourth, you will see
all those signs. That's the white signed with the red
stop the Steel right. So I worked with the mom.
We had him printed like I can't goes or an
office Max. And then another mom went to home depot
and got moving boxes and box cutters, tape and glue,

(38:29):
and we all met. When my flight landed, I ubered
right to the Capitol steps. The moms showed up, and
myself and those two moms and all their little kids.
We all sat there together assembling the first stop to
Steel signs for that rally. And Scott showed up sometime later.

(38:50):
I remember where he was parked on the street, just
a little bit past the steps of the Capitol with
his van, and when I looked down, he had already
had the back of the van open. He had, you know,
van full of stuff, table and some other things. So
we went down and helped them carry everything up. And
you can see the pictures. I'm even in some of
the Stop to Steal pictures and you can see my
backpack underneath the table. So I was absolutely there, and

(39:13):
it was kind of a pretty neat event bringing attention
to all this. And I have all my text messages
also from Scott starting November fourth at two ten pm,
and I've got all of them going through all the
way to current and the whole time that we were
there the Thursday, October fifth, let's sey Harrisburg Capitol Building.
I don't know what exactly what that was about. The

(39:50):
nice citizens went up to Scott and said, hey, we'll
get you guys a hotel room because we didn't have
a place to stay, and so I was very happy
about that, and so I ended up sharing a hotel
room with Scott. I think it was for two days.
I think it was two days, and you know, literally
two beds, you know, shared the bathroom. And the first

(40:14):
night that we were there, I actually I was just
rare in to go and I was so upset that
the public seemed to kind of be in the dark
on all this. So I want really wanted to get
something done, so I opened started a website called Great
Americanrebirth dot com. So if you go to Great American
Rebirth dot com you will see the website that I
set up. Literally, Scott was sleeping in the bed right

(40:36):
behind me, and I was right in front of the
bed at the little desk that was there in the
hotel room. And I stayed up all night building that site,
just trying to stand it up quickly so I had
a place to put real news that I was getting
directly with my own eyes and my camera, so I
could share it with the public and so that's why
I can look at that site. Now. Yeah, it's not

(40:57):
the most beautiful site. I literally did in the middle
of the night, and it hasn't been updated really since then.
But I did end up using it for an audit
that I was about to do in Sacramento County, California
at their Elections department. So if you'll see on the menu,
there's a Sacramento County, California button if you click on
that and they'll take you through all of that. In
the December twenty twenty a half, the math that I

(41:19):
was involved in, and I have been heavily involved on
the inside of all this election stuff, more so than
probably anyone would believe. But this has been my life.
It's absolutely been insane. So after a couple of days
of doing that rally, we did the front steps, I
think we did the backsteps for a day or two.
It was pretty crazy, lots of media there, you know,

(41:41):
interviewing Scott. I just kind of stay in the background
because I'm not a foreground kind of guy. I remember
BLM and and TIFA were there dressed in all black,
and I would actually put my backpack down. I told
Scott at one point I'm going to talk to them.
He told me, don't go talk to him. They're going
to get the you know what kicked out of you.
I said, no, I'm not really worried about that. So
I sat my back back down. I walked right across

(42:01):
the street and I started talking to them, and of
course they were starting to surround me, and then eventually,
after about thirty minutes, we found common ground and in fact,
one of them even came over and gave me a
hug after this third minute talk. Her name was Vera
and she's a pastor at a local church and asked
if I would come speak at her church. And yes,
that was like in BLM Antifa person asking me to

(42:24):
speak at their church. So it turns out you can
get through eventually to some of your fellow citizens if
you're willing to talk to him.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
So I did the.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Rallying spot there. Then some citizens said, hey, come stay
at our house. So after a couple of days in
the hotel, they invited Scott and I to stay at
their house around town there. So I ended up writing
with Scott. Oh. Also, I think it was the first
day or the second day of the capital ended up
having dinner with Scott and his parents. So we went
to this little like bar pub that was kind of nearby,

(42:56):
just down the street from the capitol, and I had
dinner with his mom and his and Scott and me.
It was all four of us. I said, that was interesting.
And of course, you know, didn't mention what his father
did for a living or anything like that. That would
have been nice to know. And at one point, let's
see here, Scott got a call. I'm just looking through
my notes here. He got a call and said something

(43:17):
about some ballots that were in a dumpster somewhere at
a school. So he's like, do you want to go
hunt for ballots? I was like, absolutely, let's go. So
popped in the car with him and we drove to
this school. We parked down the street from the school
because you know, we're trying to be super secret, and
parked there. We walked down into the school. You know,

(43:37):
I don't know if he hopped the fence or what,
but we're all said, in the back of this school
and where all the dumpsters are, and where these are
big dumpsters with the sliding doors on them, and so
we're opening the doors up and Scott and I are
both jumping into the dumpsters, going through all the trash
in these dumpsters looking for shredded ballots, and we ended

(43:58):
up finding a couple bags with some shredded paper in them,
and we picked up those bags and put them in
the back of Scott's van, and we're going to go
through them, but Scott said he would go through them later,
and so we just got the van and took off again.
So we ended up saying this other the people's house

(44:18):
for I think a day or two, and then I
had to get back to Colorado, so Scott dropped me off.
I believe it was a train station or near the airport.
I can't remember exactly what it was, but he dropped
me off at somewhere, and then I jumped on a
flight and went back to Colorado. I texted him, said hey,
I want to help. What are we doing next? And
he said, well, we're going to do Georgia Stop the

(44:40):
Steel Rally next week and I said, okay, I'm in
I'll be there. So I think it was only in
Colorado for a day or two. I flew back out
to Georgia. Do you do that stopped the Steel Rally?
I met him on that first day and he kind
of had everything set up at that point. He didn't
need any help. He and there were so many other
people now involved. It was a huge rally just Scott,

(45:01):
it was a bunch of people that were involved in that.
And then I got that call that night to go
help in DC to help Nate Kynes with trying to
figure out what happened with the election. And so I
knew his father, Dennis Kane, Nate Knes, the FBI whistleblower
for Guranium Ie. I had met Dennis at an Amfest

(45:22):
event years ago where Nate spoke, and Dennis called me
that night and asked me if i'd go help Nate
out in d C. So I left the first night
of the Georgia rally, got to the airport, went to
d C, and then I was in DC for a while.
So I don't need to go into that part of
the story. If you want to see my whole story, there,
go to Handcount Roadshow Dot Oregon Watch it's one of

(45:45):
my presentations, and I go through that whole ordio there
go back to Scott. So let's see here. Then Scott,
we kind of disconnected a little bit. I'd send him
text messages. I wasn't hearing much back from him, and
I was really focused on what the heck's going on
with our electronic voting systems and trying to map out
the entire ecosystem of our elections to identify where all

(46:08):
of the potential abuse vectors are for this whole thing.
So at that point I started seeing Scott pushing early
voting and mail voting. Now I had known by now,
and this is I think around twenty twenty one ish
that mail in voting and early voting are the number
one way to commit massive fraud in an election system.

(46:31):
Because I met the whole thing out, I saw it
very clearly around I think it was May of twenty
one is when I finally figured out what the heck
they're doing to manipulate elections all over. And there's many
different ways, but that was the biggest way, and that's
why we had COVID, you know, to force of course
mail in voting everywhere and drop boxes because you are

(46:52):
able to get unsolicited ballots in there and when so
everyone needs to understand this. It's really critical when a
mail in ballot or dropbox ballot, or absentee ballot or
all the same thing when they show up. And regardless
of the information on the front of the envelope, regardless
of the signature, let you say the signature does match, Okay,
when you open that envelope up and you pull the

(47:15):
ballot out of the envelope, there is no way to
know who filled that ballot out. No one knows who
filled the ballot out when it arrives in an envelope.
And that is a massive problem because what good does
the signature do if you have no way to know
who filled the ballot out in the first place. And

(47:35):
Wayne Williams, the previous Secretary of State of Colorado, when
I asked him several months ago in person at an
event in Denver, Colorado, I said, Wayne, you're the previous
secretary of state. You're the one that brought dominion in
to all of Colorado. Tell me please when you have
a mail in ballot. And he also, by the way,

(47:56):
Wayne Williams works for run Back Election Services, who makes
the Agillius machine that actually does the quote unquote signature
of verification for many states. I mean, it's just the
most uncertain thing anyway. But I asked Wayne, and he said, yeah,
you have no way to know who actually filled out
a male ballot when it comes in, and so he

(48:17):
admitted that, which is crazy. So I want everyone to
take note of that. You don't know who filled the
darn things out, so they are totally insecure. So I
see Scott pushing early voting and mail in vote, and
early voting is showing your hands early. They gather the
data early on so they know exactly what adjustments they
need to make to the election, and they use the
mail in ballots to stuff them in, and then they

(48:38):
use the voter registration injuries to justify the ballots that
they stuffed into the system, because you can't really have
ballots coming in if you don't have corresponding voter registration injuries.
So I'm seeing all this and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, Scott,
you are actually setting us up for failure by pushing
early and mail in voting. So I kept trying to

(48:59):
reach him. He would not call me back, wouldn't respond
to my text messages. And then I had a great thing.
I was in an Arizona at Maricopa County. I was
in a church and it was during an az Goop event,
and I'm sitting there in the restroom. I'm I'm at
the journal. I finished my business. I turn around and

(49:19):
Scott Pressler is sitting standing there in the bathroom in
the corner blow drawing his hair, and so I was like,
oh my gosh, this is my opportunity I can get
I actually get talked to him. Finally he can't avoid
me because we're in the freaking bathroom together. So he
finishes doing his hair and he starts to walk out.
I said, hey, Scott, and he looked at me and he goes, hey, Mark.

(49:41):
So he remembered my name exactly who I was. And
I said, all right, we have to talk about this
early voting deal. And he looked at me and kind
of pointed down. And he's super tall and I'm five six.
So he points down at me and says, Mark, I've
heard the same thing from every expert, even Professor David Clements,

(50:04):
I'm not going to stop, all right, I don't care,
I'm not going to stop, or something like that, and
then just walks off and I'm sitting there going, what
the heck was that? Now Here's what really strange thing was.
When he was talking to me, he had a super
strange voice. It was incredibly flamboyant, like forced flamboyant, and

(50:29):
really thick accent, some type of like southern accent, very
flamboyant type of voice. It was not his normal voice.
And if it's somebody had just started with that for
a couple of seconds, I figured they'd be joking. But
the entire time I talked to him, it was that same,
super weird voice. It was the most bizarre thing I'd

(50:50):
ever experienced. So after he left there, I think I
was talking to a friend of mine sometime later and
they said, yeah. I went up to Scott and asked
him in Nevada about early voting and how dangerous it was,
and Scott told me and that it's not me. This
is what a person was telling me. Scott told him

(51:10):
was that he said, quote, I can't stop harmony will
kill me. And I'm guessing it's talking about har meat Dylan,
And it wasn't not like a actual threat to his life,
but I think he was just figuratively saying har meat
would kill it. So I don't know how har meat
is sitting there somehow influencing or controlling Scott Presler, but

(51:33):
I would say it's worth maybe a look into that
as well. It's been very frustrating. So I've been trying
to congratulate Scott for at least getting people involved in elections,
but trying to subtly let people know if you register,
you don't vote. That could be really dangerous because low

(51:55):
propensity voters are the like the second or third records
in line for the fraudsters to use to justify the
ballots they're stuffing into the system in the first place.
So really bad idea. And even worse is that if
people are registered to vote and they're registered as Republicans
but they actually vote Democrat, because that's of course possible,

(52:18):
and what a great cover to go out to all
these states And if you look at the states he's listed,
it's the states that we're having major problems in.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
If you go out and you have the cover of
registering voters, can you imagine the damage you could do
by registering certain types of voters that will vote differently
than normal Republicans would vote, or register people with low
propensity voting histories who then aren't actually going to turn
out and vote, But it gives you the cover to

(52:49):
then justify a whole bunch of ballots to offset the
actual votes. And what I started to put together in
my head was, ooh, this does not look good because
if he's actually not on our side, he is doing
a great job. It's setting us all up to be
totally canned.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Hey, Mark, and try interjected quickly. So Tony shoot from auditor.
Kate does have to go shortly. But what you just
made was an excellent, excellent point. But it teas up
her data perfectly. So what I'd like to do is
is switch to Tony because she has to drop off shortly.
I'd like Tony to cover some of her data which
you just teed up perfectly. You made some excellent points there, Mark,

(53:28):
and then we'll come back.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Is that okay, Mark, no problem, do it?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Thank you, So, Tony, I think you have to unmute
yourself for you there.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
I'm here.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
I just want to make sure you guys can hear me, okay,
because I'm having tech issues.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Everything clear, Yes, we hear you, find finding clear. I
know you have to go shortly, so so please do
cover whatever you'd like on the data out of you know, Pennsylvania,
anything anything else. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Yep, we'll do so.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
To Mark's point that he just finished, speaking about We
have been tracking data on the ground since right after
the twenty twenty election and have kind of suspected this
low propensity phenomenon mark that you alluded to, where are
the low propensity Republicans who actually vote, even voting for
the Republican candidate, And kind of come to a conclusion

(54:16):
just from the data side, based on this Lancaster race,
because you can see the numbers, and I even put
the graph in the comments that has been shared. It's
on the website, like Brian mentioned, it's all over the internet.
I did a video explaining exactly what the graph is
so that as you're sharing it with people, you understand.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Oh Tony, we just lost your audio. Unless it's just me.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
How's that?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I hear?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Are you back?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yeah, you're back? Keep going.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
Okay, I'm on my apparently I figure how to leave
my phone on because I'm on my phone and when
it goes to the screensaver it cuts out.

Speaker 5 (54:56):
Okay, maybe just stick my finger and don't do that
it stop me again if you don't hear me.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
So again, going back to just the data, the Lancaster
graph that I'm going to talk about does not indicate
that there was fraud in any way. It shows us, however,
what's going on with mail ballots when they are returned
by Democrats and Republicans. And that's the alarming piece now,
is that the party in our state, specifically Pennsylvania nationwide

(55:25):
is pushing that early voting and chasing mail ballots for
low propensity voters is how we elections. However, what we
just saw in our Senate District thirty six that Brian
did a great job explaining should have been a landslide election,
is that the Republicans who returned mail ballots are not
voting for the Republican candidate because the Democrat candidate got

(55:47):
more mail in votes than ballots that were returned. And
the third party votes are also on that graph. And
so this is the first time we've had a this
is the first time we've had a small race that
we can kind of see this going on. But this
is also a trend that we've been tracking since twenty twenty,

(56:09):
and this is I'm by no means indicating that twenty
twenty was a fair election. In fact, I think Pennsylvania
was absolutely a stolen election, and it's been alarming to
me that Scott Presler would not admit that openly. A
little bit of backstory from us is that we started
a petition for a full audit, me and two other
moms in which Mark. Funny enough, we were not one

(56:32):
of the moms that were with you and stopped to
steal in Pennsylvania because I was still just wide eyed
and innocent and hoping the courts would shake everything out
we wouldn't end up with an illegitimate president, which we did,
and so we started a petition in February of twenty
twenty one for a full forensic audit of the twenty
twenty election. We started pounding the pavement and getting some support,

(56:53):
and right around the springtime we crossed over about ten
thy fifteen thousand signatures.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Someone mentioned we need to connect with this guy named
Scott Presler.

Speaker 6 (57:01):
Now I was not politically active before twenty twenty, so
I had never heard of him, didn't know who he was.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
My co founder. Her name is Karen Taylor.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
You can follow her on x as well and ask
her to for her version of this, But she spoke
to Scott directly because she reached out to him and
asked for support for the audit that we were pushing for.
In Pennsylvania, and he responded to her by saying he
would not looking back. He did not want to audit anything.
He just wanted to register voters and move forward. And

(57:32):
at the time thought it was a little bit strange
because we were kind of in shell shock on the
ground here in Pennsylvania, kind of wondering did we really
just inaugurate an illegal president like what just happened. Most
of the patriots on the ground were not interested in
moving forward, and the only people we found that were
was establishment uniqu party folks. But again, at the time,

(57:54):
I didn't think much of it. I thought, well, all right,
he's going to register voters. We need to register voters.
In no way does our organizations say that voter registration
is not important, and growing our base that way is invalible.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
So we just continued with our efforts.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
We got one hundred and twenty thousand signatures on our
petition by the summer.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
It's been a crazy whirlwind.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
I was blessed to have dinner actually with President Trump
with my team of about fifteen other people in Bedminster,
New Jersey, to talk about what happened in twenty twenty
and our efforts and see if there was something we
could do to remedy it. And so that's kind of
what catapulted me into this space, and that a lot
of you maybe know who I am at this point
because of because of that, and we stayed on the

(58:35):
ground and continue to investigate, and it's we're turning into
more of a watchdog organization that looks at the data
and evaluates what happens every election cycle and just puts
out the publicly available data and the analysis that we
have found.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
And another thing to.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Mark point, I'll wrap up here, because I was on
the road all week traveling across the state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
I just did a four four city tour. I at
every corner of.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
This date, and my birthday was yesterday and my family,
I have three daughters and a husband, and they're nagging
me to spend time with them tonight. So I promised
them that I would only be on this space for
a little bit. But we did a mail in ballot
analysis after the twenty twenty four election because we wanted
to see if that was actually what put President Trump
over the top in Pennsylvania. Is that really how he won?

(59:21):
And what we've discovered. All these reports are public publicly available.
We did press releases. It's all on our website, audit
the votepa dot com, and I can share links to it.
The report shows that forty percent of the mail ballots
from the twenty twenty four election were for Republicans. Forty
percent of the Republicans who'd returned to mail in ballot

(59:44):
actually voted in person in twenty twenty. So that's kind
of a stark contrast, and that well, the ballots is.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
The mail ballot. We chase low per pensity voters and
that's what put us over the top. Well not really.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
You basically just converted almost half of the people that
vote in person at twenty twenty, indicating they were highly
likely to vote in person. Again, you just converted them
to the mail ballot. And there's a lot more analysis
that goes along with that. But my concern with what
Scott is looking at is he's surface level. He's only
looking at the surface level of numbers the State Department

(01:00:17):
is putting out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
He's not asking some of.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
The tougher questions, and we've tried to ask some questions
very respectfully on his platform. I met him in person
at the second Butler rally when President Trump came back
to Butler after the horrific shooting on the thirteenth, shook
his hand.

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
I've been on the phone with him. I don't have
nearly the background that Mark described he has with him.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
But I have met him. I have been on the
phone with him. I do have his Early Vote app.
I tried using it a little bit and even with
some of my volunteers out here to see if we
could utilize it. And I was really just trying to
ask him some questions on his Twitter and raise awareness
about my concerns based on the data that we're finding
through early voting and the mail ballots. And right after

(01:00:59):
the wiscon and loss, he blocked us. And so that
to me is a little bit concerning. If you're not
willing to answer questions about the work that you're doing,
I just I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
Not okay with that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
We're very open at audit the vote PA. We want
our work scrutinized in questions and will answer anything. I
would only block somebody if they were starting to throw
profanities or be disrespectful, and we were never that way.
So that's a little concerning. But back to the trends
of the low propensity voters. We saw in twenty twenty
President Trump's numbers, which again are probably not accurate anyway,

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which our canvassing effort proved statewide twelve county canvassing effort
where we ers, and this is also all documented very
well on our website audit the votepa dot com. Is
that the Republicans who returned ballots in twenty twenty didn't
all vote for Donald Trump. And we also saw that
exact same trend in the gubernatorial race with Senator Doug

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Masteriano running against the then Attorney General Josh Shapiro. Is
that Republicans return mail ballots didn't all vote for the
Republican candidate Doug Macerano. Exact same thing with Oz Fetterman.
And so we spoke to folks in nursing homes that
were registered Republicans and asked them what.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
They're just to get their feedback after the election.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
And one of the things we found really interesting was
some of the registered Republicans and nursing homes communicated to
us that they just could not bring themselves to vote
for doctor Oz because he was hurting puppies.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
He was killing puppies.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
And in Pennsylvania folks remember the Fetterman campaign putting out
a very strong ad to that effect, but it was
a lie and he had to later apologize. But unfortunately,
because of early voting and mail ballots, which technically Pennsylvania
doesn't have early voting, that's another topic.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
We have mail ballots.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
You can go to your election office before election day
and request a male ballot. That's what ends up happening.
That's how you end up voting. It's not technically early voting.
But what we found is that they were hype focused
and targeted with propaganda and ads. They were just flooded
with this propaganda's message from the Fetterman campaign that Oz.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Was hurting puppies and lo and behold.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Then they ended up not voting for doctor Oz, voted
for Feedamou. And now I will admit I was no
huge fan of doctor Oz myself, but I held my
notes and voted for him anyway. And so that kind
of just tells us that what we kind of are
concluding is one of the possibilities of what's going on
is that the USAID money that Elon has exposed, how

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dirty that is becoming, and how it's funding organizations like
Act Blue and a bunch of left wing NGOs. Is
those guys are now able to tell based on who
requests mail ballots, they can figure out who the low
propensity voters are, and they can hyper target their funds
to those specific people. Because low propensity voters are easier

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to flip. They're less informed, they're not paying attention to
politics the way that those are probably listening on this
space are, and so when they're getting hyper targeted with
a bunch of ads trying to say I don't vote
for the candidate registered under, they're much easier to flip.
And so, in the most benine sense, if we're not
stuffing ballots, and we're not, we don't have to Pressler's credit.

(01:04:15):
He is right in that Pennsylvania, we don't have a
proof of fraud because in order to prove fraud you
have to have intent, malicious intent, you have to have
a lot of eyewitness tests. Are a lot at least
two eyewitness testimonies, and we don't have that. But we
have some very concerning data that points to the fact
that his tactic of chasing ballots with low propensity voters

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is actually working against us. And that's that's probably one
of the more concerning pieces to all of this, and
it's right in the data.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
It's proven right in the data.

Speaker 6 (01:04:47):
I'll cover one more piece and then I'll give it
back to you, Brian, and I could probably one of
the test questions I wanted to hear for questions, but
I don't know that I'm going to do it. We'll
have to do another. Is that early voting. We just
learned this in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
I alluded to this. Pennsylvania doesn't have early voting.

Speaker 6 (01:05:09):
So, first of all, our laws are such that you
can vote up to fifty days before election day. But
we've also found in many cases the ballots aren't even
printed and ready yet. And so let's say it's forty
days before election day or whenever your election office does
have available ballots. When you go there, you're essentially filling
out an application for a mail ballot, which is then

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getting you on this list that these left wing NGOs
can now purchase from whatever entity, and they can identify
you as somebody who has requested a ballot, and then
they can figure out if your low propensity and target
you in the future, which is kind of the danger
of pushing this whole idea. But you fill out an application,
it gets processed at the counter right then and there,
which takes time, and then they hand you the equivalent

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of a mail ballot. You fill it out, you put
it in an envelope, just like you would at home.
The only difference is you're not putting a stamp on
it and sticking into the mail blox.

Speaker 5 (01:06:01):
You're leaving it at your election office.

Speaker 6 (01:06:03):
So we could argue that it's a little bit safer
because at least, like Mark mentioned, we know that the
person filled out the ballot.

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
You saw them there, so that's a little bit safer.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
But the thing that was really that caught a lot
of people off Garden, Pennsylvania is we have a mail
ballot request deadline, so seven days typically before the election,
you can no longer request the mail ballot. They do
that for a chain of custody and to try to
keep it quote unquote secure the mail voting. And so
a lot of people tried to go vote right before
the election and we're told they couldn't and they were reduced. Wait,

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I thought I could early vote, Well, no, because your
early voting was actually request of ballots, and since you
didn't make the line for the mail ballot, they were
not able to vote, and that caused a ton of
confusion and chaos on the ground, specifically in Bucks County.
You guys will probably remember That's went out to Bucks
when there was just a whole hoopla of mess out

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there over the early voting, turning people away having to
stay open later. And I just think the early voting
message a lot of a lot of chaos, lot fusion,
and we.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Just went honest elections at all of the vote. You know,
we are open.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
We hope that Scott a lot of the conclusions that
are being drawn now.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Based on all of this info coming to light.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
I'm an optimist by nature, and I'm kind of still
just hoping that that stuff is not true and that
we can have an honest, open, civil conversation with him,
get to the bottom of this, come together at the
end of the day, and get a game plan moving
forward that pushes honest voter registration but also what's best
for election integrity at the same time. And that's kind
of the whole reason I agreed to come on a space.

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I just want to raise awareness hoping we can have
a conversation with him and that this isn't an nefarious
a nefarious thing that we're getting into here, but there's
an awful lot of evidence that points to the contrary.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
So Brian, with that, I'll give it back to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Thank you, Tony, I appreciate it. And just before I
go to the next speaker, I do want to remind
everyone please do share this space, Please post and repost
it and share it. So I'm going to do next
is I'm going to go to David Gordon, the founder
and director of Virginia Project, the Political Action Committee. I
think he only has about ten minutes or ten or
twenty minutes to believe you said. And then I see

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that Joe Oldman is added, I'd like to go to
him next. And then I do want to go to
some of our other speakers like Zach is on here.
I definitely want to get you in there, and then
please you request the mike a couple other people. So,
but first I want to go to David Gordon, the
founder and director of Virginia Project. David say hello, and

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I remember we're sticking just to the data and no
personal attacks, and so let's go let's keep it going
like that.

Speaker 7 (01:08:37):
Thank you, Okay, thank you, Brian. Please excuse me, everybody.
I'm a little bit under the weather. I'm the founder
and director of the Virginia Project, which is a Republican
political action committee. Just to give you some background, it
is not your typical political action committee. It wouldn't have

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been organized in that way at all, except that I
needed to do so in order to legally coordinate with
Republican Party organizations and committees. What Virginia Project is, well,
I have to say it was now since I closed

(01:09:19):
in January. It was essentially a support organization intended to
stoke the rebuilding of a almost defunct Republican Party of
Virginia in the wake of the twenty nineteen elections when

(01:09:40):
I was kind of out of politics at the time.
I'm a computer programmer, I'm not really a political animal,
and I'd heard the news that the Democrats had, for
the first time in a generation, swept the elections and
had a trifecta in Virginia, and having lived lived under

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trifecta Democrat governments before, I knew the nightmare that was
about to come.

Speaker 8 (01:10:08):
And the people of Virginia really didn't.

Speaker 9 (01:10:11):
Know what was going to happen, but I did.

Speaker 7 (01:10:15):
So I felt a compulsion to intervene, and thus I
created the Virginia Project in order to, you know, try
and get the Republican Party back on its feet and
get it competitive again, and give it a winning vision,
some unified purpose, and to try and generate ideas and

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methods to put it back on the success path. It
wasn't entirely voluntary on their part, but I didn't really give.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Them a choice.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
I essentially created an informal uh innovation auxiliary unit attached
it to the party in a way that they couldn't get.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
Rid of me.

Speaker 7 (01:11:00):
Okay, So when when I was first deciding what to do,
you know, the first thing I did was an analysis of,
you know, how did they get there? And one of
the first things to come out was that they left
dozens and dozens of seats in the legislature unchallenged. So
the Democrats didn't even have to fight in order to

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get a quarter plus of the legislature.

Speaker 9 (01:11:27):
They just got it for free.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
So for the Democrats, they had a very easy game.
They had they had to fight for to win less
than a quarter of the seats in the legislature in
order to control it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:39):
So one of the initial.

Speaker 7 (01:11:41):
Objectives of the Virginia Project was to recruit a candidate
for every single seat in the House of Delegates. Okay,
and I established this objective just five days after I
had started.

Speaker 8 (01:11:55):
It was just such a clear.

Speaker 7 (01:11:58):
Failure of the basic mechanics of a party. You know,
you got to put a candidate on the ballot, or
your chances of winning will always be zero. So let's
increase those chances above zero, even if it's just a
little bit to give us some better rods. You do
that across dozens and dozens of seats, and you materially

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alter the equation to who can control the legislation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
David, let me just interject, I do want to just
encourage you to be on topic a little bit sooner.
I know you're giving some good background, and thank you
for doing that, but i'd encourage you to, you know,
let's focus on Scott a little bit quicker with with
some of the background, if you could, please thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Okay, certainly, Well, this background is very relevant because the
point of this background is to give you an idea
of just how deep the ownership of this particular objective was.
You know, this was your main reason Virginia Project existed. Okay,

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so I'm gonna fast forward to shorten the story a bit.
Come February twenty twenty one, I discover that another group
that had picked up that objective from us and was
going to run with it didn't and that we had
to scramble fast in order to meet that objective. So

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we did, and we started a hard campaign, very relentless,
and one of my staff members ran into Scott Presler
at an event in northern Virginia and obtained his business
card and suggested that I call him for help with
this specific project. Okay, that's why the background is relevant here. Okay,

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So I called him. The first thing I asked him
was whether he was willing to run for one of
the seats in Virginia Beach.

Speaker 8 (01:14:02):
Where we needed a nominee and didn't have one.

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
He gave me a flat no, no explanation, just no,
it's like okay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
Then I asked him, would you be willing to help
us recruit candidates, you know, so that we can run
in every district.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
I got another flat no.

Speaker 7 (01:14:25):
So finally I asked, would you be willing to help
out the local Republican Committee the Republican Party of Virginia Beach, and.

Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
Again he says no.

Speaker 7 (01:14:38):
I ask why not, and he tells me that Virginia
is hopeless and not worth his time. So I'm like,
all right, well, you know there's nothing for me here.
Thank you for your time, you know, move on, get
it done. So, uh, we did crowd source.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Takes you pay a second.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
Okay, you know, I have an elderly cat.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
We did.

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
We crowdsourced, you know, through the committees, through the auxiliaries,
through activists. You know, we did this massive search all
over the state to fill dozens of nominations, and finally,
after months and months of hard work, we did and
this was an all time record. It had never happened

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before in the history of Virginia politics. This was a
big deal and it was a fulfillment of one of
the main reasons why our organization existed in the first place. So,
you know, we punt the news.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
We're all in celebration.

Speaker 7 (01:15:50):
Within twenty four hours, Scott Presler posts I have great
news and then tells the story about the hundred delegates,
one hundred House of Delegates candidates being recruited, with all
attribution as to who did it completely stripped out. So

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this was presented to his audience in such a fashion
as to lead them to believe that he was the
one who was responsible for it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:27):
So I see his post, and.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
There's hundreds and hundreds of thank you, Scott Presler, You're
a hero, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Et cetera.

Speaker 7 (01:16:38):
And you know, everybody who was involved, you know, everybody
who'd witnessed what was going on. You know, they were
all telling him, Hey, you know this was Virginia project,
you know, this was this was uh you know, the
local grassroots who did it. You should credit them, And
he obstinately refused to give any ignorre knowledgement whatsoever. So

(01:17:04):
long story short, you know this was this, This was
owned by us as much as possible, and within a
day of achieving a major objective making history, Scott Presler
led his entire million plus strong audience to believe that

(01:17:24):
it was Scott Presler. So the upshot of this story
is that ever since I have noticed that he has
this pattern and practice of announcing accomplishments that have been
done by other people, but announcing them in a way

(01:17:44):
that strips the attribution, strips the credit from the people
who did the work, and allows his audience to believe
that he is.

Speaker 8 (01:17:55):
To credit for that accomplishment, and over.

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
Time I I realized that his entire reputation is essentially
built on that pattern and practice of misrepresentation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Excellent points, David, at really good points that you made
at the end there, and I really thank you. That's
a very important story. So thank you for sharing that.
If you have anything else, we'll come back to. I
do want to go to We're gonna go Joe Oldman,
and then Zach and then Emmon. Don't don't be mad
at me, and sorry about that, but but Joe, let's
let's keep it clean, buddy. You know I love you.

(01:18:35):
Let's keep it clean. Joe Altman, if you want to unmute.

Speaker 8 (01:18:40):
Am I not normally clean? Sure you're clear here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
No personal attacks.

Speaker 8 (01:18:52):
So so let me let me just so. I like
to get to the meat of things.

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
And I think one of the reasons why people get
you get caught up in in justifying or trying to
justify the ridiculous. You know, you look at Scott Presler.
It's probably already been said, you look at Scott Presler.
What Scott Presler's dad did. And I spoke with Dave
Clements at an event in Virginia with a couple with

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a bunch of great people there, and they were talking
about how Rob Presler came out of nowhere and caused
chaos every time he touched something. And so we find
ourselves in this place where we try to figure out
this is just a good person, is it a bad person?
Are they just hard to get along with? Are they
not hard to get along with? Do they like chaos?
Because some people are just filled with drama? And over

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the over the last four years, we've seen a pattern
kind of get created. What you said about Scott Presler,
I don't know who it was, but I do follow
you TVP a Virginia project about the fact that Scott
would step in and he would just take credit for everything.

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He would He would say that if if something happened
that was good, he would take credit for it.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
If it wasn't, he was.

Speaker 10 (01:20:06):
He was quick to point out that the people didn't
vote hard enough, they didn't do so that same type
of mentality has been going on for the last couple
of decades. But that same sort of mentality, the same
sort of game plan has been used by other people,
and and Brian you're probably referring to me not saying
anything about your boy Jovon Pulitzer. But I'm just going
to have to say it. The same thing keeps happening.
We keep having people come up that say no, no, no,

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I figured it out. It's all in the paper, it's
not in the machines, and discrediting or discarding people by saying, well,
they're part of the deep state, when in actuality, there's
most of the people like Mark Cook that's on here myself,
David clements, we haven't made money on the election.

Speaker 8 (01:20:44):
Matter of fact, it's cost us. It cost me millions
of dollars.

Speaker 10 (01:20:49):
But this same type of mentality where then they get
connected with other guys at you know, the turning point USA.
And I want to I want to point to a
specific event where there was a Pasture event and Charlie
Kirk was on the stage and Charlie Kirk was asked
about election fraud. Hey, can we have a conversation about
the reality of the data that is present and inside

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of the voting machines. And I think what he was
referring to specifically was the information coming out of Nevada.
Now at this event was a guy named Liszt for
what his first name was. He was the governor of Nevada,
and he's sitting there. He took pictures with Charlie Kirk,
who happened to be the ex governor of Nevada and
he is a current lobbyist and lawyer for dominion voting systems.

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But while Charlie Kirk was on the stage, and while
you had these handlers that were in the audience, and
keep in mind, this is that event with pastors Charlie Kirk.
When he says, yeah, we're not going to talk about that,
he didn't have a reason why he wasn't going to
talk about it. He just decided he wasn't going to
talk about it because he didn't want to talk about it.
He didn't feel that there was any What he said

(01:21:57):
is that there's no evidence of election fraud and again parroting.

Speaker 8 (01:22:03):
The same talking points.

Speaker 10 (01:22:04):
Now, that didn't stop Tyler at turning point USA from
getting to bed with Mike Mike Lindell and asking Mike
Dundell for a bunch of money and saying that yeah,
we definitely need safe and secure elections. Well at the
same time talking out the other side of their mouth
and saying there's nothing wrong with the elections, leaving alone
again creating chaos, creating doubt, creating an environment where people

(01:22:25):
don't know what to believe or not to believe. Well,
on that stage, he accused a pastor who's a pretty
well known capacitor of being a fed, literally called him
a fed from the from the stage, called a pastor
a fed from the stage. So I don't I don't
know how you can reconcile that and say, you know,
Charlie Kirk is just maybe he's just misunderstanding things, or

(01:22:47):
maybe he just doesn't understand the reality of it is
that they get.

Speaker 8 (01:22:51):
To pick and choose what voice is heard and isn't heard.

Speaker 10 (01:22:53):
And right now they've chosen Scott Presler, and they've made
fools of all of us.

Speaker 8 (01:22:58):
You have turning Point. USA does all these events.

Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
They go to college campuses and they talk about the
indoctrination that's happening.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
While we are literally allowing.

Speaker 10 (01:23:08):
Them to stand his controlled opposition in the doorway, saying
you're not allowed to look at it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:23:13):
A day ago, President Trump came out and talked about
Chris Krebs safest most secure election in US history, and
we're going to look into it. We know that the
twenty twenty election was stolen. Well, the reality of it
is that President Trump has access to a lot more
information than we do. And you know, I've had conversations
with people that are in his cabinet and on and
in January of twenty twenty twenty one. I was at

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the State Department when all this stuff broke out on
January sixth, so I was able to meet with the
what was it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:43):
Called the.

Speaker 10 (01:23:45):
Lawyer the Council for Pompeo. Pompeo stuck out the back
door literally because we were supposed to meet. And when
I had that conversation with him, and when we presented
this model, he looked at me with sweat coming literally
in a very cold place. Have you ever been in
a Fara day box. It's to climbate controlled environment where
dignitaries go right. It's a place that's off grid, can't
have phones, can't have computers. And he starts sweating in there.

(01:24:09):
He says, why would anybody do that? And I'm in
there with a Deputy Secretary of State and a bunch
of other important people and we're going through how they
stole the election.

Speaker 8 (01:24:15):
In twenty twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:24:17):
Now fast forward to where we are right now. Tulca
Gabber comes out yesterday at the same in the cabinet
meeting and talks again about what's happening in the election.
And the reason why this relates to Scott Presler and
what's happening to DoD is because President Trump is currently
stripping security clearances from law firms. He's stripping security clearances

(01:24:37):
from people like Chris Krebs that were directly related to
the twenty twenty election. But on the surface, you still
have the same thing that's happened. You still have the
same people that are allowed to pretend that we have
safe and secure elections, and people like Scott Presler can
come out and say I'm for safe and secure elections,
and yeah, we need to get the bottom of it.

(01:24:59):
There's not transparency and at the other end saying that
there's no credible evidence of election fraud that exists. The
problem is is that we have mountains of election fraud material.
We have mountains of evidence. The four Mesa County reports.
I say four because there was a fourth report that
was done by Jeff o'donnald that was done clearly outline

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how the machines manipulate the election. If you go all
the way back to December of twenty twenty, we can
talk about the ASAG report, which a very detailed report
on an image out of Antrim County. Matt DePerno was
the was the attorney in the in that case, clearly
showed and was stated that this system is designed into
fraud the American people. Every single time that we went

(01:25:45):
into court or created a case, they would refer back
to what we controlled their controlled environments. Charlie, Kurt, Scott Presler,
Alex Halderman, you know Alex Halderman, you know was able
to manipulate a voting machine with a pen right while
walking by the evidence that you know, Mark Cook was
on our show, sat Down, We walked through it. We

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were able to use a USB drive in order to
flip votes without ever touching the machine.

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
Right, Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Mark, Well, we did have to touch a machine, But
the tools to manipulate votes inside that particular system are
actually built into it. It doesn't even require happy Literally, the
tiles are built in. It just requires a couple of
mouseplicks and some key presses. And I saw this on
the firsthand, so I definitely knew it, but Scott would

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not listen to any of this information I had.

Speaker 10 (01:26:36):
But every time you would talk to Scott about it,
Scott would would say that your your deep state, or
you're trying to take away people's ability to vote. He
would use the same talking points on the left, but
migrate them just slightly to say, hey, we have to
get out there.

Speaker 8 (01:26:51):
We have to out rig the machines.

Speaker 10 (01:26:53):
And if you remember, he did a he was on
a stage, a TPUSA stage event in July of twenty
twenty four, and he stood up there and he says,
if they're going to rig the elections, we have to
out rig the rig. We have to get out. We
have to we have to get out the vote. We
have to get more people to vote. But every time
that he would come back and tell the success that
he had, he would create hyperbolic numbers that came out

(01:27:14):
of nowhere. They weren't they weren't numbers that were directly
related to anything. And so on one side he could say, well,
Scott Pressler is just a hyperbolic liar, that's an opportunists.
And then the other side, you have to connect the
dots to the other things that that we've forgiven for
people by saying, hey, they're on our side. Well we
want to you know, we don't want to up to

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the par Scott's doing great stuff. But you can't point
to one thing that Scott did that manifested into a
conclusion for a game.

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
You can't. You can't.

Speaker 10 (01:27:45):
You can't talk about the Amish, you know, voting and
coming out and one hundred thousand people, because that never happened, right,
And so you you have to look at it on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Yeah, when I was out in Pennsylvania with the handcout roadshow, yeah,
I tried to get me for the Amish, and I
got contact with some pretty high up people there and
they said they just weren't interested to discuss anything election wise.
And I was pulling in to do handcap roache all
across their communities. They didn't want it. And a week
later Scott shows up and claims to register What did

(01:28:16):
you say, like eighty thousand Homish or whatever. He'sa How
on earth I couldn't even get a single meeting with
one and he's registering like crazy. I just didn't bite it.

Speaker 10 (01:28:25):
So here's here's how you know this is a con right,
and and I think that you need to pay attention
to this. The con is is if you can say
that eighty thousand Amish people voted and you get out
on social media, but only like six Amish people actually
have social media, and they don't particularly want to be
in the media. Who's gonna if a tree falls in
the forest, nobody sees it fall. Who actually knew it fell?

(01:28:48):
I mean they they couldn't dispute it because it's not
actually culturally something they do. So you're claiming to get
eighty thousand people to go there and you never even
walked into the living room of an homage person.

Speaker 8 (01:28:59):
Who's going to know?

Speaker 10 (01:29:00):
The only thing you have to take that, well, there
are there are actually but voting Amist. There's probably one
hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty thousand dollars people.

Speaker 8 (01:29:08):
That could vote.

Speaker 10 (01:29:09):
But the fact that you're vote it, yeah, yeah, you
call them if you if you count the Mennonites and
the Amish, you could probably get to one hundred and
twenty thousand people that are voting age for sure in
Pennsylvania specifically because they have a high concentration. The point
is is that a vast majority of those people that
would vote did vote, and we're registered to vote, and
the people.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
That didn't wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (01:29:31):
Right, And it's and it's split pretty evenly down in
But most people are definitely not going to talk about it,
and they're not going to see themselves as a pawn
in some election to get one party elected over another.

Speaker 8 (01:29:41):
They try to stay out of it. They try to
stay out of politics.

Speaker 10 (01:29:44):
So and and by the way, I have two friends
that are Amish that live in Pennsylvania, and so I've
I've had very long conversations with them about politics in
a very private setting. And you know, so I'm not
I'm not talking out my ass. I don't want to
speak for all Amish people. But you know, my experience

(01:30:05):
with Amish people has been one that they didn't they
don't want a dog in the hunt.

Speaker 8 (01:30:09):
They don't want to they don't want to get involved. Right.

Speaker 10 (01:30:12):
It's it's it's culturally anesthetical to who they are. So
but but as we as as we as people, we're
always trying to figure out who do who do we trust?

Speaker 8 (01:30:21):
Who do we not trust? Right? Who do we who
do we follow? We do not follow?

Speaker 10 (01:30:25):
And who's going to lead us off a cliff and
not lead us off a cliff. And so we create
these paradigm crashes all the time where we say to ourselves, well,
this makes sense. Well, the reality of it is is
that no matter what you can like Scott Presler as
a person and recognize the dancing like a fairy on
the on the stage and acting like a unicorn is
has nothing to do with the thing at hand, which

(01:30:49):
is getting votes. Acting like a Kardashian or or positioning
yourself as the savior when you're not actually showing us
anything that we can tangibly touch just makes you a
loud mouth and a room full of people taking credit
for things that frankly never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Right.

Speaker 10 (01:31:04):
It's like saying that you actually did an audit when
you didn't do an audit, when there was no report
that you've ever done that's ever been included in an
audit aka Jevon Pulitzer. And so I look at this
from the standpoint of what do you have to tangibly
show me that I know for a fact that I
can point to and there's nothing related to him, And
then you have to add in the stuff about Rob
Presler his dad. I mean, the guy literally works for

(01:31:26):
the disinformation unit for the DoD and who the hell
goes out and tries to raise money to buy themselves
one hundred thousand dollars truck. I mean, none of it
makes sense, and yet we find ourselves simping for certain individuals,
like it's a cop popularity contest inside of a high
school gymnasium. And I just think that we have to

(01:31:46):
take a deep breath and step back a little bit
and say to ourselves, is that why are they protecting
the machine? Let's hypothetically say that it's not the machines,
which it is, but it's not in the machines. It's
not the software. Even though we've proven it. Mark's proven it,
We've proven it over and over and over again. But
let's hypothetically say we're to back up and say it's

(01:32:07):
not that right. Why would you try to protect something
so fiercely with law fair and defamation law. People believed it,
They believe this stuff, and defamation suits have to go
towards a position of ballasts and the election machine companies.
And this is why I'm trying to simplify things. Election
machine companies their job is to do a public good

(01:32:29):
as a pseudo government entity. Right, So they're a pseudo
government entity. And so as a pseudo government entity, their
job is to work for the government in order to
make the voice of the people hurt, period and stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:32:43):
Well, if that's.

Speaker 10 (01:32:44):
The case, and it's it's designed to a public good,
then legally, if you look at this, you cannot sue
someone for saying that your system is corrupt, that it
doesn't work when everything that's out there says, oh, we
had an error here, a mistake here, Oh, we had
to do an upgrade in this system. Here, Oh save
this most secure election. You know, you're criticizing a system

(01:33:07):
because none of it makes sense. And if we go
back to twenty twenty, none of it made sense. November
three shut down in multiple states across the country. Has
it ever happened before?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:33:17):
Why?

Speaker 10 (01:33:18):
And if that doesn't make sense, how does bringing in
baskets of ballots at two o'clock in the morning make sense?
Make it make sense? But they've never had to address it.
They've never had to address it. And what's even worse
than that is Scott Presseler has never addressed it. He's
walked past it. You can have a debate about things

(01:33:38):
and tell me it's not the machines. If you're willing
to discuss it, if you're willing to become an SMEME,
a subject matter expert and tell me it's not the machines,
then you should have reason not what We had sixty
cases and they all got thrown out when you're walking
past other evidence that shows that the elections were in
fact rigged across the country in all fifty states. So

(01:34:02):
if you're not willing to have a discussion about it,
you're hiding something from me. And every time we turn around,
this controlled opposition on our side is telling us to
vote harder. We now we got to do just work harder,
as if it's like a morale boost that all of
a sudden we're going to run ourselves down to a
place where we don't have the chance, like it's the
pied piper walking us off a cliff and we don't
have a chance to sell the country, save the country,

(01:34:24):
because it's too late by that time, and by that time,
the inks driver world economics is out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Go ahead, Yeah, I saying vote harder, donate more. That's
basically what we're hearing from.

Speaker 10 (01:34:34):
Her and has any And here's here's what I'm trying
to convince everyone here not that Scott Presler is a
bad guy. I'm trying to convince you that he's an operator.
He's a con man, right, And I want you to
do the I want you to look at it yourself.
Is the guy legitimate?

Speaker 8 (01:34:54):
Is the guy?

Speaker 10 (01:34:55):
Is he doing what he said he would do? And
by the way, if you are intellectual, if you're just
intellectually honest, just to a small degree, you have to
start asking the questions in an introspective way of am
I being fooled?

Speaker 8 (01:35:10):
Did he really do this?

Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
And if he didn't do that, why does dad work
for the DoD department that's responsible for propaganda? And oh,
by the way, why does he now live in Wisconsin?

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
But I mean it just none of it makes sense.
And we were not allowed to ask questions about anything,
and he won't address it. And I tell you what
him asked him before this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
I sent him a text on Wednesday. I said, Scott,
it is critical that you join and address everyone's concerns
to clear this all up. If anything is not true,
they need to know it and hear an explanation directly
from you. Here's the link. He never responded. I sent
him another text this morning, actually just a couple hours ago.
Please hop on now so you can clear all this up.

(01:35:53):
And still nothing.

Speaker 10 (01:35:55):
Wow, but you're not going to get anything from him.
I mean that's I think that's my point, Brian, is that?
And I could go all night on this because I've
I've seen this operation before, right, and I've been slandered
up one side down the other, been canceled twice from X.
I'm literally suppressed on every social platform, and I have

(01:36:15):
to say to myself why, Like why is what I'm
saying so controversial?

Speaker 8 (01:36:20):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:36:20):
And remember I'm the one that came out on the
Coomber call, and they're like, oh, the Coomer.

Speaker 8 (01:36:24):
Call never happened. You didn't have the Coomber call.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
So I went through and found someone that said the
Coomer call to go, and I was like, Hey, I'm
gonna do. I'm gonna let you come on my podcast.
I'm gonna tell you everything. I'm gonna I'm gonna give
you a narrative about what happened from beginning to end,
and you tell me by the end whether or not
the Coomber the Antipa call happened.

Speaker 8 (01:36:42):
And beginning to.

Speaker 10 (01:36:43):
End, I just published it. It's out there beginning to end.
He goes at the very end, he's like, this is unbelievable.
I was like, you didn't know any of this, did you.
They're like no, because the media creates a narrative, and
the same way that media creates a narrative to destroy
people who were up there and speak. I think I
saw Holly on here. She got destroyed. How are you
on here? Yeah, you're right here by the way, Holly

(01:37:07):
at altitude. Yeah, she's I think that's her. Yes, she's
the one that got sued by the massive group of
people that frankly that they slandered her. So there's no
way her ash ash Epp Sean Smith. They sued them
and called them the equivalent of Nazi sympathizers, see, and

(01:37:30):
then they had all the media publish it. The people
on our side are smart, articulate people who have never
wanted to be on any stage, and frankly just want
to get to the place where they could save the
community in the country for the next generation.

Speaker 8 (01:37:46):
So I'll leave you with that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Thank you, Joe. I really appreciated some really good comments
that you had. Thank you again for joining. I want
to go to next to Zach. Zach's been waying for
a while. Zach, go ahead and un meet yourself and
you introduce yourself please if you would.

Speaker 11 (01:38:01):
Hey, there, thanks very much Brian for having me on.
Guys may know me as the guy who blew the
whistle on Google in twenty nineteen, and I still have
a following on x I haven't been canceled yet. And
you know, Brian, I think you kind of clued me
in first about this whole Scott Presler thing, and I

(01:38:23):
was like, wait, these are some huge claims here. And
then I started reading your tweets talking to some other
people and realizing, oh my god, we got a fox
in the henhouse, and so you know, there's there's also
some more stuff coming.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
I think Brendan.

Speaker 11 (01:38:40):
Straka is also going to do a video about this,
because he's he was going to do independently of this group,
just because of how horrible he knows Scott Presler is.
And you know, I did do the video that you
guys may have seen before coming in here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Honestly, I don't know that much.

Speaker 11 (01:39:01):
About the situation other than what I've got sort.

Speaker 8 (01:39:04):
Of debriefed in the last seventy two hours.

Speaker 11 (01:39:08):
I love to say that we do know that the
elections were rigged in Pennsylvania because and the way that
they did it was that they took those ballots that
came in and they switched the vote from Republican a Democrat.

Speaker 9 (01:39:24):
And so Scott Presler said.

Speaker 11 (01:39:27):
When you stated that Republicans didn't come out and force
this this season, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Just not true.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
We had enough to win.

Speaker 11 (01:39:36):
What they did is that they took those votes, they
switched him over thanks in part to the early voting
initiatives that he's doing. So my hope with this and
this actress for a lot of time with this group
over this last few days is to, you know, if
we can't outright cancel Scott Pressler, it's to cripple him.

(01:39:58):
And even though you know, we we don't have ten
thousand people in this space, the way that I've seen
this stuff works is that it just keeps on spreading.
And I feel that at this point we've hit critical mass.
And so I think that what's eventually going to happen
is that they're just going to retire Scott Pressler because

(01:40:19):
they can't like information just sort of keeps on flowing out,
and you know, they can only lie for so much,
but then they just sort of give up. They retire
the asset, and then you know, he's going to retire
in his mansion and his one hundred thousand dollars suv
and they're going to get some new guy up there
to take the place. And so I just want to

(01:40:40):
say that we need to be hypervigilant. I think we
already know this because as soon as the letter got down,
the deep State's going to you know, swoop in, and
we won't be able to have any reasonable, you know,
democratic force in this great republic that we call the
United States.

Speaker 9 (01:41:00):
That's all I want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Thank you, Thank you, Dak, I appreciate it. I want
to go to Emon next, since you've been waiting for
so long, and then I'm gonna go to Holly after that.
Since Joe called you out, uh one, You're gonna be
the last speaker. If anyone else does want to speak,
please request the mic and send me a message maybe

(01:41:22):
what you're gonna cover. I'm a little bit hesitant if
I if I haven't interacted with you before, but you know,
please let me know. But Emon, did you want to
add anything.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
I'm just really glad that Zach got to get in
there and and talk. I'm kind of just the follow
up girl for my my wheelhouse is it? And we
haven't talked about any of that yet. The app Scott

(01:41:53):
has going on and all those other things. But I
would like to just put my time over to Wan
if you would be amenable to that, and then follow
back up on the IT end of things. If that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
Well, so I talked with one and we're going to
have him go last because he has so much data
to present. He says it's okay with that. So if
you want to just maybe briefly cover some of the
IT stuff, I think it'd be a good time now.
But he is going to have a lot of time
at the end as the last speaker, so Emon, if
you want to share, you know, any of the IT
stuff now is probably the best time.

Speaker 4 (01:42:36):
Okay, cool. I've kind of been doing the deep dive. Well,
I've been doing the deep diving a Scott Wrestler for
a while. But the thing that I've been doing the
deepest dive into and also mi as Sardinnynn Sardanilla is brilliant.

(01:42:57):
We've kind of been doing the deep dive into the app,
which if people don't know, has been an absolute disaster.
It's been rolled out and it has resulted in people
losing SMS ability to text because people have been reported

(01:43:21):
as spammers.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
They're about the Early Vote Action app Correct, the Early
Vote Action app.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
Correct, the Early Vote Action app that was put out
there by Pressler and was all the influencers, Eric Daughtry,
everybody was just like pushing it. You know, download this,
download this before Wisconsin, because if we had downloaded this
before PA, it could have maybe saved us. Yeah. No,

(01:43:51):
but anyways, it's it's a leaky app. It's it pretty
much pulls a lot of your personal data that you
have to opt in for. But nobody pays attention to
those screens. They're just like, yeah, I accept and I

(01:44:15):
want to use it. And then people have found out
that if they were texting people to help with Scott
Pressler's app, their SMS has been shut down by Apple,
it's been shut down by Android. They've been reported as

(01:44:36):
spammers because there's been no control, there's been no shelter
to keep these people sheltered from sending all these texts.
And you have to wonder if it's if it's just
they wanted to get it out there first, or if

(01:45:00):
it's deliberate and the the app has been used for
many different areas including Allegania in Pennsylvania and other areas
in Pennsylvania, and every time it's been to used it

(01:45:22):
results in the Democrat winning. So at one point, at
one point, do we look at this and say this
is in confidence or is this deliberate?

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Start looking at it right now, because there's something fishy
about all that. And they are collecting probably a ton
of data in that app as well.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
They're collecting a ton of data and that's the thing,
and they're collecting the contact information, and it's one of
those situations where if you don't read the fine print,
you're opted in and you have to read the fine print.
But everybody, like good hearted people are like, yeah, I
want to help in PA. I want to help in Wisconsin.

(01:46:10):
So they just hit that I accept, and then all
their contacts get shared and then you wind up with
that weird statistic that I believe Zach put up where yeah,
I got texts from Scott Pressler and I don't even
live in Pa or I don't even live in Wisconsin. Well,

(01:46:35):
why are you getting those texts.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
It's because they're Does the app actually grab all the
contacts in people's phones.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
Unless you opt out, which it's the it's the the dialogue. No,
it's the dialogue that's predatory. You have to read through
and say oh no, you don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
Through and you don't say no and you don't knocked out.
Does it grab the contact in your phone?

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Yes? Wow, okay, and that and that's at all mark,
And that is why when you look at the statistics
that were put up by people, where did you get
texts from Scott Pressler and do you live in Wisconsin?

(01:47:34):
The overwhelming majority was yes, I live in Wisconsin and
I didn't get texts from him. No, I don't live
anywhere near Wisconsin and I was getting spammed by him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
That's why data is key. Data is king in all this.
And so I wrote a brief called Engineered Theft of
a Superpower and you can get that brief. You got
a handcount road Org. You click on the picture of
the trailer, the image of that trailer on the screen,
and you'll download this brief that was handed to Jim Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
What I have.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Found is that they have fully engineered the election system
essentially to put on an illusion, but in the full
engineering of this grabbing people's data like that, if this
person was an operative, would be exactly what they would do.
Gather this mass amount of data and then use it

(01:48:28):
and engineer the system in order to be able to
manipulate it even better. So it's not looking good, but
I appreciate you sharing that information. If I were anyone,
I would remove that app off your device immediately, would
be my recommendation. As an IT cybersecurity professional, I would
remove that app at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:48:49):
Yeah, but Mark, I have a quick question for you
if you don't mind what I don't know not at all,
going oh, okay. The concern right now is that Scott
Pressler is doing this push for mail in database or

(01:49:14):
mail in voters and early voting and YadA, YadA, YadA,
because that can give statistically a heads up to the
other side for what's going on. But now you also
possibly have this app. Do we know where that data

(01:49:39):
is heading into a repository? Is it heading into its database?

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
But well, there is.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
There is to a certain extent because if you look
at super feed Technologies, who created the app, they're uh
requirements that they have to send out for what we

(01:50:16):
are using your applications for are really really limited. They're
really limited. So what are they They're sending it all
to third party data?

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Of course they they may be absolutely and they may
be selling that information as well. I did just see
Marty popped up here real quick and he only has
a couple of minutes. He was actually the guy that
had a direct face to face conversation with Scott. I'd
like to bring him in just for him to pass
this information.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
On that we can do that, we can do that.
Mark also, is Sean Smith still on? Sean if you're
if you're on, can you request the mic? But yeah,
go ahead and go to Marty.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Okay, Marty, you just got approved there. Go ahead, Marty,
tell your story about talking to Scott directly.

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
And then can we get walling back in here for
a speaker.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
One's gonna go last that I talked to him about.
He's going to go last.

Speaker 9 (01:51:17):
But I have a mic I've been taking care of.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
All right, awesome, Okay, can you hear me?

Speaker 12 (01:51:27):
Yeah go ahead, okay, good, Yeah, I only have a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:51:32):
Just and I guess Mark mentioned about how harmeat was
Harmie Dillon is Scott Pressler's mentor probably we're looking at
about twelve years now because he told us that about
ten years ago. So then looking at Harmeat's behavior over
this time when she was running against Mike Lindell for

(01:51:55):
RNC chair. You know, with Ron McDaniel there too, har
Meats and probably some of you know the story. Harmeyats
specifically told Mike Lindell that if she's elected chair, she
will not be working with him. So that's a little
telling right there. The guy who put forty million dollars
in his life into putting out information about the machines.

(01:52:19):
You all know the story. If she's R and C chair,
she doesn't want to work with him. Now, maybe she
has a problem with personality whatever, who knows, but that
that transcends everything. So that says a lot. So I
kind of sense a lot of connection here about the
outlook of harmony, the outlook of Scott, and let's bring

(01:52:43):
Charlie kirkinto this. Charlie is he refuses to acknowledge the machines.
He was here in Las Vegas and he didn't want
to have anything to do with it. He one of
our folks was at a conference. He was at and
he basically told he pushed him off and said are

(01:53:03):
you a fed when he was simply asking him about
the machines.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
So Charlie's said nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
With can you talk?

Speaker 12 (01:53:18):
Well, it was that specifically, that that one event that
he did here when myself and Pam were trying to
push him to get him to acknowledge machines. We did
it with it thinking he had an open mind about it. Uh,
it's like, okay, just.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Walk us through the story. You were in front of
him directly.

Speaker 12 (01:53:38):
Right, Yeah, for about ten fifteen minutes. We engaged him
a long time with a line of people. We basically,
you guys, we're trying to say, hey, you know, do
you know what Mike Lindell was doing?

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Do you know how the machines?

Speaker 12 (01:53:54):
You know all these things we're bringing up about the machines.
And he goes, well, you know, and he was being
cagy about it, and he says, we'll tell you what,
Why don't you email me and we'll see what we
can work out. So I emailed him three times, never
got a response, and but then kind of after.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
That he.

Speaker 12 (01:54:20):
Basically like I don't know, he had like a maybe
a little melt down there, but he basically, when we're
pressing him, he goes, Harmony will kill me. And he
didn't mean that, you know, literally, I'm sure, but it
was like, you know, I cannot go against what Harmony

(01:54:40):
wants basically, or I'll fall from her graces kind of thing.
But he did use the phrase Harmy, it'll kill me
in quotes. You know, I'm not saying that she would
kill him.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
So that was very strong right there too.

Speaker 12 (01:54:55):
So this really leads me to believe that that she's
an architect behind all this. Unfortunately she's the d o
J Civil Rights Division whatever the head position there.

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
That's a little scary.

Speaker 12 (01:55:11):
So I don't know. That's to me, that's a bad
person in a high place where we need a good
person in a high place, especially in the Civil Rights Division.
So yeah, the whole thing is black and that's kind
of the story. And I got to run, but I'll
listen to all this later. Thanks so much, Thank you, Martin.

(01:55:35):
Sean Smith's bell on because he might have been on
before and we wanted to get him in there. And
then we're gonna go to you know, Jonathan AKA one.
If I was there, you are, Sean, I see it.

Speaker 7 (01:55:48):
Sorry, can I interject the second on that last point.
If you want to blame somebody for O Meet not
wanting to deal with Lindell, you can blame me. And
if you want to have an argument about that, you can.
We can have it offline. But I don't think he
was an asset at all. And yeah, we can have

(01:56:12):
that argument some other time.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
Okay, all right, thank you. And then as Sean Smith,
if you want to unmute.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Your micro ahead, Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
All right, yes, we can hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Yeah, I just I would just add a few things.
And I don't think it's anything new, but this is
my experience. So if you don't know who I am,
I'm just a guy in Colorado. I retired from the
Air Force in twenty seventeen with no intention of ever
going anywhere near anything governmental again, and then realized on
election day in twenty twenty, not looking at results it

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was long before then, but reading something about turnout and
then doing some regression analysis on voter registration data that
there were some problems. And then you know, I've got
a lot of cyber threat and special technical operations background
and done a lot of operational testing, and so when
I started reading the voting system testing manuals and the

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test reports. I thought, we're in real trouble here. And
the more I found and the more I saw, the
more concerned I was. So I ended up connecting with
some other people who were working on election fecorary. I
had no intention of doing that. I kind of fell
into it. One of them was Holly who's on here.
One of them was Mark ASHP. So, Holly ash and
I are the three co defendants in the NAACP's lawsuit

(01:57:29):
against us, where they fraudulently claimed that we were targeting
and intimidating minority voters. It was all totally false. But
I was a big fan of Scott's sort of I
would call it cheerleading.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
I was a football player in high school, and I
never really understood the purpose of cheerleaders, but I think it,
you know, it was helpful to get attention enthusiasm. But
once he started talking about early voting, I was very concerned,
and I tried four months, probably starting in two thousand
two two through all the way through twenty three and

(01:58:04):
early in twenty four to engage with him, usually an X.
This is my second account. I didn't have an account
that whole time, like kind of like Joe, you know,
if somebody hasn't hasn't been suspended at least on social media,
I don't know if I can work with him. But anyway,
so I really tried to give Scott the benefit of

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the doubt for what he was saying about early voting
and ballot harvesting. And I wasn't really looking at his
claims yet about like voter registration and election victories. But
he just would dodge every chance, like if I came
into a space that he was in and tried to engage,
he would stay muted, or if he would leave, Sometimes
he would leave right away. He did in a single

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space that was kind of being controlled by his friends engage,
but they muted my mind so that I couldn't respond.
And what his response was was basically, you know, Maricopa
and Virginia governor's race proved his claim, proved that early
voting worked. And of course I know a lot about
Maricopa because I helped with some of the analysis and

(01:59:08):
legal work for the injunction that Carrie Lake did and
for the cases that they pursued after the twenty two election.
So you know, I've worked closely with all of the
technical experts and the attorneys, and so you know, I
knew that was false, that his claims about his understanding
was well, what he claimed about it was a real

(01:59:31):
misrepresentation of what occurred. You know, he was claiming that
an election day there were all these risks, and I
made a lot of points to him, like, look, you know,
the machines are the same. Election day and early voting
machines are the same. That the people are are corrupt.
They're corrupt, and if you're not seeing them objecting to
early voting, it's because they already are getting what they

(01:59:53):
want from early voting. So so anyway, I tried for months,
really I think over a year or to engage with them,
and he just refused. And then Mike was Mike Lindell.
So I'm the president of Cause of America, a nonprofit
that works to help grassroots with election integrity, and Mike
asked us to come to the Turning Point USA event

(02:00:16):
in Las Vegas and to address election integrity there. And
I didn't know Scott was going to be speaking, but
so we ended up running into each other there backstage.
That wasn't a good time to talk. He was on
the phone a lot, but then out in the kind
of lobby area after or in between sessions. I finally
approached him and said, hey, you know, I've been trying

(02:00:36):
to get a hold of you and talk to you
about this for a long time. So he thought I
was there to get a photograph with him, which was
pretty funny because I don't even take photos with Mike.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
Really.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
I think I as a joke, I said, Mike, a
photo of me with like a cardboard got out of it.
But anyway, so Doc Frank, Doug, Doctor Douglas Frank was
right next to me when I approached Scott and I said, Scott,
I want to talk to you about early voting. And
he tried to change the discussion into how Doc Frank

(02:01:12):
or David Clements had, you know, like complained about him
being gay or something like that, and I just said
I'm not here to talk about that. And he said, well,
those are your people, and I said, neither one of
those people are Cause of America. But beside the point,
that's not what I want to talk to about. And
I basically just said, look, early voting enables rigging. It

(02:01:35):
enables rigging. Because it provides data for the model that
allows them to determine how much they need to inject,
and enables rigging because it encourages a lot of people
to break and lose chant of custody, their balance. And
he dropped the mask. So I've seen him put on
several different accents. He's not as bad as Kamala Harris,

(02:01:56):
but I've seen him put on different askets accents. But
this was different. It's like his whole face, his whole
persona changed and he said, I don't care, and it
was like a snarl. And that was all I needed,
because once I see that somebody's capable of doing that,

(02:02:17):
I know that they are probably a sociopath honestly, but
at any rate, at that point I no longer gave
him the benefit of the doubt. And you can see
if you look back through the through the history of comments,
I have tried to comment repeatedly and he always has
a lot of First it was kind of I would
call him like fanboys, like people who are you know,

(02:02:37):
big supporters of his, and sometimes their approach would be
to try to discredit me or take some personal angle.
Sometimes it would be like if you're familiar with the meme,
it would be like, leave Brittany alone. You know, Scott's
such a great guy, and I again, I was a
big fan of what he did, like with the trash
ing up in Baltimore. I'm glad to have him register people.

(02:02:59):
I just didn't want him pushing early voting. And we
came to find out because of the relationship with Turning Point.
So Turning Point had offered Mike, what they like, access
to a white label version of the of their app.
So this is a super feed app, the same one
tp USA uses, the same one I think Patriot whatever

(02:03:20):
it is Action uses, and the same one that Scott
uses for early production. And we would have been glad
for it, but you know, we had already been Ashton
Hawley and I had already been sued by the NAACP.
And one of the things that we learned from that,
So the way, the part of the reason that we
continued in that lawsuit we didn't just settle, or you know,

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we didn't fold, is because right from the beginning we
had used just absolutely air tight approaches. Our data was
directed for the Secretary of State. We had complete lineage
and providence for every door that anybody knocked. We could
show the exact method by which we randomly selected and

(02:04:03):
by which we had selected precincts based on a specific
sort of voting behavior. So it didn't anything to do
with race or anything like that, or political party impact.
You don't even get the race information with that. So
and because we had that background, and because all of
our you know, our training and our legal documentation, and
because of the way we had handled everything, because that

(02:04:25):
was our defense, and it was our defense, I mean,
it kept us from being essentially slaughtered in this federal
court by the Lawfair from these organizations. I knew that
we had to have perfect prominence on the data for
any app that we had sending citizens, grassroots citizens who
mostly can't defend themselves, you know, from Lawfair. If we

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were going to put them at a door, we had
to know exactly why they were there. And so we
asked for access to their data so we could review
it and make sure that it was accurate data that
we could say, look, this came from secretaries of state
or an official source. And it took a long time.
We finally got some data. It didn't match what we had,
and ironically it was in Pennsylvania. That we did the comparison,

(02:05:10):
and then we also asked them, look, we'd like to
look at your structure for your data, like what do
you do with the volunteer data and do what permissions
does it require on their phone? And what do you
do with the data you collect? And we got a
lot of pushback on that, and then one of our
guys was looking at some of their documentation and found

(02:05:32):
that they had screen captures from the app developers that
were showing cyrillic characters, probably serbian.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:05:41):
So it just it just started adding up for us
that at the end we said, look, without having perfect
providence on the data, without being able to tell volunteers
you know what you're going to do with the data
they collect, that you're not going to sell their data
or other people's data, we can't recommend this. And so,
you know, thanks the opportunity, but we're out. And it

(02:06:02):
was a hard pushback. So I'm not surprised to hear
some of the things that we're hearing about what is
happening with the super Food At my personal perspective is
that you know, the reason Scott got the money, and
we did hear directly that Scott got five million dollars
to push early voting. The reason, you know, what we

(02:06:25):
think they're doing is they're selling information to campaigns about
which voters are still left to contact, and they're selling
the data they collect to who knows who, including contact information.
And one of the things that alarmed me about that
was I used to be registered in Nevada as unaffiliated

(02:06:45):
and because of that, I got contacted by this Nevada
Talks Action group, which was an affiliate of the Empowered
group out of Wisconsin, which is hardcore leftists ballad harvesting
and voter data collection, so basically the same thing that
that Early Voat action is doing, but they were trying
to target unaffiliateds. But what I realized I went through

(02:07:07):
their training, asked them questions, looked at their procedures, stuff
like that. What I realized was their entire purpose was
to collect data. And so when I saw the same
behaviors and the same sort of app performance or app
mechanisms with Early Vote Action, I was you know, it
was a hard note for me, And because because of
a hard note for me, it was a hard note

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for cos of America and all of our you know,
our grassroots partners will do what they want, but we
recommended against it. There there were a couple other things
that I would bring up, but I would just say,
you know, I've looked at like Scott keeps claiming this,
Like Joe was saying, you know, it's like when you
see somebody in there at a college football game in
the stands and then the people down on the field
do something and the people in.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
The stands say, we did it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
That's what it reminded me of, because Scott kept saying,
you know, we delivered Pennsylvania for he mister president, or
you know it was it was early voting that you know,
flipped this or flipped that, or that's how young Cain won.
But every time I would go look at the data,
like Youngkin, for example, in Virginia, the only time he
had an advantage was on election day in person voting.

(02:08:12):
In every other category of voting, he lost. And it
was the same in Pennsylvania. Like Scott's claims about the
number of voters who registered, I was looking at their
voter registration data and its fluctuations over the course of
the prior ten years, and I could see the trends
in all the counts. There was a lot of fluctuation,
and there was a consistent trend towards registering additional Republican voters.

(02:08:34):
But then on top of that, you don't know what
is happening with those votes. So the fact that one
of those names votes doesn't mean the person voted, and
it doesn't mean that the ballot that they submitted was
actually counted as they submitted it. So that's all I
had to say. I appreciate you. You've giving me the
chance to talk.

Speaker 4 (02:08:50):
May I please to ask who is just been talking?
Because my interface in spaces says nobody's been talking for
the last half hour.

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
It's Sean Smith has been speaking, and I didn't see that.
I'm not sure if you're getting an error, but we
definitely have been having audio for the last half hour.
I don't know if you can hear me who was
just asking that question? Yeah, you may be having an
audio problem. I think that's a maybe, emon But all right,

(02:09:25):
thank you Sean for that. I see that we still
have Joe Oldman on with us before I go to Jonathan,
because he's going to present a lot of stuff at
the end. Somebody, Yeah, Jonathan, we're gonna come to you
in just one second. But Joe did are you still
on with us? Joe, yes, sir, Hey, did you have

(02:09:50):
any other comments that you wanted to make, because then
we're going to go to Jonathan. He's going to go
for a while.

Speaker 10 (02:09:55):
I think, no, I'm I'm good, I can I can
step down so you can more people come up. I
appreciate what Sean Smith said, and let me just give
a couple of shout outs I can. First of all, Brian,
you have the patience of a saint. I just want
you to know that you put up there with the

(02:10:16):
attacks more than I think. I I've just lost patience
every four years. I think me and Sean are like
spirit animals now. But but I also but I also
want to say Sean Smith is much like many of us.
He's never taken a dollars, never asked for a dollars,
never been paid by anyone he has. He has continued

(02:10:38):
his service to his country after leaving the military, and
frankly has been one of the most uh, you know,
constant reminders to me to stay calm, stay ready, and
focus on the on the problem. So everyone that's spoken, obviously, Holly,
you're You're amazing. It takes it takes a lot to

(02:10:59):
go through the things that we're going through. Brian, you're
at the front end of it. But I will just
caution people that being quiet and not speaking leads to
where we are right now, and so everyone needs to
leave here and be an ambassador of truth. Take this information,
distribute it out widely, and be absolutely on fire for

(02:11:19):
the truth, because there's nothing to be gained from exposing Scott.
This isn't like a wear a tinfoil hat. Oh, let's
expose Scott because this might be cool. Matter of fact,
it's quite the opposite. You know, we want accountability and
I would want somebody to hold me accountable. Sean has
very many times to hold me accountable the same way
I would hold him accountable and be able to work

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the problem.

Speaker 8 (02:11:42):
And this has nothing to us with degrading anyone.

Speaker 10 (02:11:45):
Has everything to do with not allowing anybody to be
tricked by people who were there or who were there
ultimately to hurt us.

Speaker 8 (02:11:51):
So thank you Brian for doing this tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:11:54):
Thank you Joe. I really appreciate that. So before I
go to Jonathan and it's coming, I just want to
make sure Mark is there is there anyone else we
need to get in briefly to speak, because Jonathan's gonna
go probably as long as he's going to go. So
if there's anything else urgent otherwise, I'm gonna turn over
to Jonathan. Mark you got anything, Oh you're you're not

(02:12:16):
a co admin before?

Speaker 3 (02:12:17):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
If no one if no one else is unmuting, sir Jonathan,
just reminder of the rules of the space. Let's let's
not have any personal at tax and like you and
I discussed, you know, if there's any specific allegations, let's
keep it to uh, you know, questions as much as possible,
just so that our stream doesn't get shut down. I
think you know what I'm talking about, all right, Jonathan

(02:12:37):
wan take it away. I don't think we can. I
can't hear you, Jonathan. Are you there? I hope that's

(02:12:58):
not my phone that's having the problem some of our other speakers.
Can you unmute?

Speaker 9 (02:13:04):
Is?

Speaker 1 (02:13:05):
Can you hear me? Still?

Speaker 2 (02:13:06):
Can hear me?

Speaker 3 (02:13:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:13:07):
I can hear your phone?

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
I got you now, Jonathan?

Speaker 4 (02:13:10):
Are you there? I show that he's still a listener.
Can you bubble him up to his speaker?

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
He shows as a speaker on mine. I see him
right there as a speaker. He's muted.

Speaker 4 (02:13:30):
Now, man, I still show him as a listener.

Speaker 8 (02:13:36):
I like, well I can, yeah, I show him as
a speaker.

Speaker 1 (02:13:42):
Yeah, I think he's a speaker. So you may want
to refresh your screen. I'm on, Jonathan, we just show you.
You just mute it again.

Speaker 9 (02:13:58):
I've dropped and came back. Does that how well?

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
Yes, we got you now, Okay, that's the voice.

Speaker 9 (02:14:04):
So if I understood your instructions, Brian, you're you're saying
it's okay for me to go ahead and start popping
off about Blacks, Mexicans and Jews, correctly.

Speaker 8 (02:14:12):
Is that does that cover it?

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
What? What? What my instruction said was no, no personal attacks,
and let's limit things to questions because we wouldn't want
the stream to get shut down. So I know you
have a lot of good data. Let's focus on the
data and sharing that and uh, you know, questions are fine,
but let's uh, let's stick to the rules of the
of the space. If we can, please thank.

Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
You, Yeah for sure, then Jonathan, don't be a dick.

Speaker 9 (02:14:40):
I don't know what else to be. So shout out
to Joe and to David.

Speaker 13 (02:14:45):
Good to see again, buddy, Sorry to hear that you
closed down TVP. But everybody else that that works in
this space knows that I've you know, I'm on probably
my seventh account. This isn't the account that must you
guys know me from. You know me from either DECENTI
JC or backup decent, but to talk about who Scott

(02:15:07):
is and who his dad really is. So it was
us that exposed the fact that he's the the Scott's
dad is a retired twenty four year Navy captain who
works with the husband of Michelle Flornoy.

Speaker 9 (02:15:23):
His name is W.

Speaker 13 (02:15:23):
Scott Gould, who is a retired US Navy captain and
was the number two guy at the VA for a
long time, which has been a just travesty of miscarriage
of our veteran servicemen and women for since I can
you know remember.

Speaker 9 (02:15:42):
But Michelle Flornoy is.

Speaker 13 (02:15:46):
The person of highest interest here for those who don't
know who she is.

Speaker 9 (02:15:49):
She is the co founder and chairman.

Speaker 13 (02:15:52):
Of West exec and of the Center for New American
Security CNASS. She's also a board director of JUZ Allen Hamilton,
which is one of the most nefarious Carlisle Group fronts
in the United States that's into all kinds of debauchery.
And for those who may or may not know, Carlisle

(02:16:14):
Group basically through proxy called Staple Street Capital, owns the
majority stake in Dominion voting systems at seventy five point
two percent, so they control the hardware of you know,
one of the top three providers of elections administration in

(02:16:34):
this in this country. But Michelle Flornoy is a far
more sinister actor. Her brother is a Chinese spy who
spends his time between Los Angeles, Washington, d C. And
Beijing and chins and China and has for decades. He

(02:16:57):
was very influential in two Mesmo Bank, which basically branched
off to create what we know today is soft Bank.

Speaker 9 (02:17:06):
Why does soft bank matter? Soft Bank is who.

Speaker 13 (02:17:10):
Was one of the three major initial investors in Ali Baba,
which got all of our voter registration data that was
funneled through Eric that we know of. It probably was
also through Avid and through b Pro and through Kanek
and through no Ink.

Speaker 9 (02:17:26):
As well, because they're all fully integrated.

Speaker 13 (02:17:28):
But we have not run the forensics on all of
those platforms as it relates to voter registration. I'm going
to speak to what we have the forensics receipts on
so at the completion of the twenty twenty two midterm
elections that were stolen in Arizona clearly from Carrie Lake,
Blake Masters Morfincham.

Speaker 9 (02:17:51):
And whoever the other whoever the.

Speaker 13 (02:17:56):
Other person on the on the ticket, I apologize if
I forget your name.

Speaker 9 (02:18:00):
Abe, I forget a Pomady. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:18:07):
So they stole the top four ticket races. And that's
really my inundation with election Fraul. I give a lot
of credit to a lot of people in this room
that have been on the fight a lot longer than
I have, that were involved in twenty twenty in twenty
twenty one trying to get to the truth, But my
involvement relates from twenty twenty two onward, and from that

(02:18:33):
point I would put our information up against anybody because
we don't speculate on things, and we know that during
the midterm elections and then in the lawsuits that followed
on into May and June of twenty twenty three, Eric
voter registration data was being sent from the United States
to domains based in Beijing, China, personally owned by Facebook

(02:18:58):
executive Peter Chu. Why does that matter because the Center
for Election Integrity and Research, which is run by and
founded by David Becker and Amy Cohen, is the center
that is tasked with basically elections oversight. They administer the ERIC,

(02:19:20):
the Electronic Registration Information Center, which credit to David Gordon
and the Virginia Project. A few people have done as
much to support our work in exposing the absolute bullshit,
fraud and outright disaster of voter all manipulation that that
system is. And they also create the Election Officials Legal

(02:19:45):
Defense Network. It's the slush fund to defend all of
these corrupt elections officials. They're all housed under this CEIR
Eric and EOLDN hub that basically defends the people that
are stealing our fucking elections.

Speaker 9 (02:20:00):
Pardon my French, but.

Speaker 4 (02:20:04):
Can can you circle this back to how it relates
to Presler?

Speaker 13 (02:20:09):
Yes, so this relates to Presler because Michelle Flornoy, who
is cenas West Exec. West Exec is Tony Blank and
no Massad, Robert Maxwell, Justlain Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, child traffickers,
bio terrorists. With Nathan Wolfe and the CDC and all
that shit you know, and Wuhan China, they literally helped

(02:20:33):
to establish the apparatus, the relationship with Ali Baba and
Tencent and Huawei, which is the third of the Chinese
triumvirent for election fraud collusion between the United States and China.
They helped to create that apparatus, and Robert Presler is

(02:20:55):
one of their major points of contact and has been
working directly with Michelle Flora from when she was Under
Secretary of Defense under the Obama administration. Michelle Flornoy is
one of the worst people in the United States. And
Scott Pressler's father isn't just the director of Info Ops
at the Pentagon. He is a bad actor working with

(02:21:18):
the baddest of actors and has been for decades in
this country. And part of that includes the election fraud
apparatus that is Eric and a number of other lesser
known apparatuses in the wake of CONNEC that most people
have never heard of but are integral to what we

(02:21:39):
know is happening in Wisconsin, in Pennsylvania, in Arizona, in Ohio,
in Georgia.

Speaker 9 (02:21:49):
Okay, so there's a there's a there's a situation.

Speaker 13 (02:21:53):
In Arizona while Carrie Lake's elections lawsuit is happening. We
catch them illegally accessing Maricopa's elections network. We trace it
back to the house where the hack is originating from
in Kansas, and Thomas Lyddy, the son of C. Gordon

(02:22:17):
Lyddy from the fucking Watergate scandal, is the attorney representing
Maricopa County, stops the trial in the middle of the trial.
Kurt Olsen had just finished speaking. Thomas Liddy pulls out
his phone and immediately shows it to the judge and says,
we need to request chambers. They shut down the entire

(02:22:40):
hearing in the court case because we knew where they
were and what they were doing, and this apparatus that
allowed them to access these elections networks was granted permission
by Stephen Richard, the Maricopa Recorder. And who was involved
in doing that That would be Michael Salim from rat Space.

(02:23:02):
Why does that matter because dat a Republican aka Jenica
Pounds and Northwest Venture's partners and light Speed and Snapchat
and all these people who are the data gurus that
are supposedly on our side and representing dog they are
who Scott Presler works with. There we go, Please don't again, Emon,

(02:23:29):
I'm like, I'm not going to go aimlessly into a
direction that doesn't circle back.

Speaker 9 (02:23:34):
I promise, I'm way too autistic not to.

Speaker 1 (02:23:36):
I do with a question, So Data Republican she has
on her profile, uh, you know Charlie Kirk. She stated
public iex that she worked with Charlie Kirk for elections.
And then you know, when she was doing this analysis
of USAID, I was questioning, well, it looks like some
of the direct donors to Turning Point USA have received

(02:23:59):
USAD funds. Dude's like, oh no, no, no, it's not.

Speaker 9 (02:24:03):
That, Ryan, Brian.

Speaker 13 (02:24:04):
One of the first messages that you and I had
sent to each other and in years at that point,
was when that was happening. Because suddenly, when the question
came up about TPUSA and USAID and other factions supposedly
on the right, she suddenly pretended not to know how
fucking money laundering worked. And you had noticed that, and
I had noticed that, and anybody who had a pulse

(02:24:26):
noticed that, which was limited, hangout, controlled up, bullshit, one
oh one. And so then your brain immediately goes to, Okay,
what's the angle, and you look and you realize that
Jenica Pounds is actually not just some like data genius
or whatever you know, she's actually the director of Snapchat, uh,

(02:24:47):
the director of software engineering for Snapchat from twenty eighteen
to twenty twenty two.

Speaker 9 (02:24:52):
Why does that matter.

Speaker 13 (02:24:53):
Because that's the time that Amy Cohen and David Becker
over at CEIR partnered with Snapchat and Facebook and.

Speaker 9 (02:25:03):
Sales Force and.

Speaker 13 (02:25:05):
A number of these other big tech Silicon Valley supposed
data platforms that gave people the ability to go on
these social channels and register to vote with no oversights
or protections because they all build it on this same
chassis that's basically Twitter and TikTok and Snapchat and Instagram

(02:25:32):
and Facebook. And they built in easy access voter registration.

Speaker 9 (02:25:37):
And how did they do that.

Speaker 13 (02:25:38):
They took the same fucking sabotage and compromised data that
they had gotten from Eugene U and Kannak and they
rebranded it into the platform that they used to steal
twenty twenty two and mini House and Senate races in
twenty twenty four, and they called it Arena.

Speaker 9 (02:25:57):
And why do you need to remember the name Arena?

Speaker 13 (02:26:00):
Because the smurfing and Act Blueshit and the money laundering
that goes to subsidize all these campaigns for anti American
politicians that are stealing our country from us. They are
in that arena hub. Act Blue is a subsidiary in
the arena domain, and included within that is impactive Io,

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which is the data platform that's used to defraud, actually
defraud our elections, voter rolls and our US Census data
to create situations where you have fraudulent apportionment in Congress.
Conservative states are underrepresented in liberal states are overrepresented because

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of faulty census information. And they do this at Columbia University.
That Columbia is the most overlooked aspect of all of this.
And Michael Crow, the chairman of Innktel, the CIA's VC
arm that runs shit and air Zona, one of the
most dangerous people in the United States, works directly at

(02:27:05):
Columbia University as the Vice Provost of Strategic Research, helping
to implement all of this data compromise within the voter
rolls of all of those states. And they just rebranded
Kannek to do it. And that's what we're dealing with now.
And the people that show up to the party having

(02:27:27):
worked with Charlie Kirk, like Jenica Pounds and Matt van Swoll,
who is the director or the head of subscription growth
that fucking wise and all of these people that are
like supposedly speaking on behalf of TPUSA and unwinding the
USAID racket, but only this part and not that part.

(02:27:47):
They're all part of that same big tech teering. And
Scott Presler deliberately ignoring the data side of it, the
cyber side of it, the hacking side of it, is
intentional because it's his fucking people that are going in
and fucking doing it. And by ignoring it and then

(02:28:08):
only focusing on registering a few dozen voters here and
there and let's do mass mail in early vote and everything,
he's helping to create more fucking like low propensity voters
for them to fucking pull from. It's basically an election
fraud bank of however many they need to switch on

(02:28:30):
or switch off for this cycle, Like Steven Richard just,
you know, arbitrarily cancels out one hundred and forty fucking
thousand registered likely voters in Arizona right before twenty twenty two,
and then he brags about it, like Scott isn't just
like like this is what you guys.

Speaker 9 (02:28:50):
Need to realize.

Speaker 13 (02:28:51):
He's not just like ill informed or naive or you know,
telling people incorrect information in good faith. No, he and
his dad and a fucking Miles Pressler who's also a
snapchat and Robert Presler Junior, the fucking Crisper COVID virologist

(02:29:12):
who lives in Madison, fucking Wisconsin. They're bad actors. They
are the enemy, and they need to be treated as such.
They don't need to be handled with kids gloves. Jenika
Pounds is the enemy. They are the palatable appropriate like
traditional kan inc where the Republican Party is basically the

(02:29:34):
Democrat party driving the speed limit kind of thing, only
it leads to the same place.

Speaker 9 (02:29:40):
This digital technocracy bullshit. And the person that.

Speaker 13 (02:29:44):
I think that put Jenica and Scott and all of
these people to the task Brian that doesn't get enough
credit and enough eyeballs on him is fucking Mark Andresen
and his gethub and fucking Microsoft in a sixteen Z bulls.
He needs millions of eyes on him. Because I'm thinking

(02:30:05):
that Jenica is just an operative. She's not calling the shot,
she's not making the decisions to do these things.

Speaker 9 (02:30:12):
She's being tasked. And who's tasking her? Well, who tasks
TPUSA follow the money right? Who funds TPUSA?

Speaker 13 (02:30:22):
Betsy de Vos okay, Charles Cooke okay, Prager University Okay,
who are those people? Well, Betsy de Vos, her brother
Eric Prince is owned by Apollo Global Management.

Speaker 9 (02:30:34):
Who is that?

Speaker 13 (02:30:35):
That's literally Jeffrey Epstein, co conspirator, Leon Black and fucking
UJA Federation chairman Mark Rowland. Well, who is Apollo Global Management?
That's the people that literally knock down the fucking towers
at nine to eleven.

Speaker 9 (02:30:52):
Larry Silverstein, James Tish.

Speaker 13 (02:30:55):
Alvin Kronguard like these are the when you realize it's
not like the more complex it gets everybody, the simpler
it actually gets. Because the same people that did COVID
are the same people that coincidentally rigged the housing market
through cu cdo cmos and colos. There are also the

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same people that did nine to eleven, and now they're
the same people telling us to vote early. Do mass
mel in voting, why so that we can lose chain
of custody over exactly where my vote went and was
it counted or was it not counted? Like Brian, you
remember they they intentionally sabotaged high traffic Republican areas on

(02:31:42):
election day in person voting in Maracopa.

Speaker 9 (02:31:46):
In twenty twenty two. Why why did they do that?

Speaker 13 (02:31:50):
Because they know people like us that are normies and
are fed up with all the bullshit aren't going to
trust a soul other than themselves when they can show
up in person, get a ballot, fill it out there
in person and look the person in the eyes they
hand that fucking thing in. I'm not going to trust
the US Postal Service when I know Amber mcfucking reynolds

(02:32:14):
is the vice chairman of the Board of Governors while
she's also serving fucking the Department of Energy, and Jennifer
Jennifer Granholme and she led the fucking like Field Team
six stealing of the battleground states in twenty twenty. They
are forcing us, by this mail in vote push to

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enter into arenas that they control. Meanwhile, if we don't
look at the cyber side of things, we don't get
to see them actually go in and switch voters on
and off, or change you know, registered voters andacted from
active to inactive or vice versa. And because what everybody

(02:32:58):
needs to understand, it's not one mechanism that they're using
to steal the elections.

Speaker 9 (02:33:05):
If I had to sum.

Speaker 13 (02:33:07):
It up into one, uh, fuel that gives them the ability.

Speaker 9 (02:33:12):
To have multiple mechanisms. It's the control of data.

Speaker 13 (02:33:17):
And that control of data is what gives them basically
the ability to do it, whether it's mail in voter fraud,
you know, just making up, you know, a bunch of
mail in votes that nobody ever gets to look look at,
and then making sure that they're fucking controlled opposition, or
you know, compromise judges over here and preside the over

(02:33:39):
those cases like or it could be we control the data,
so we'll just you know, switch these voters from active
to inactive, or will just duplicate the same voter and
same social security number across seven different fucking states wherever
we need people to to show up and be counted

(02:34:00):
as a voter in that state. And that's the real
problem that we have, is that it's not one mechanism
of how they use the data to steal elections. It's
that they control all of the data that gives them
multiple avenues where they can steal elections, and they are
stealing the elections.

Speaker 9 (02:34:19):
And it's not enough just to.

Speaker 13 (02:34:22):
Say, well, you know, we got to have more oversight
we have to go like it's so bad that we
need to go to paper ballots hand counted in person
with no machines whatsoever on election day period for probably
the next three elections cycles.

Speaker 9 (02:34:37):
And how do I know it's as bad as it is.

Speaker 13 (02:34:41):
Because we have the forensic showing that Dominion voting systems
using Huawei's cloud network, which Dominion uses Huawei's cloud network,
had remote command control executed within Texas, Florida, Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania.

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Let's see Minnesota, Michigan, and Ohio.

Speaker 9 (02:35:13):
That's eight states.

Speaker 13 (02:35:15):
Somebody want to do the quick electoral college math on
how many state how many votes in the electoral college?
Those states that are pretty fucking important are worth And
we know that they were using the same like hacks
and the same basically mechanisms of exploiting the system windows

(02:35:40):
and get Hub's favorite thing is the fucking win thirty
two exploit.

Speaker 9 (02:35:43):
You see it all over the fucking go Daddy shit
and all over the fucking.

Speaker 13 (02:35:49):
Like elections networks in any of the battleground states where
there's election disintegrity. And we know that coinbase, which you
know it might as well just be a foreign intelligence
operation was working directly between Arizona and Pennsylvania to help
steal both of those elections, Like Scott Presler, I think somebody,

(02:36:14):
I think it was David who said earlier Scott likes
to do this thing where he shows up into a
state last minute after you know, a bunch of patriots
have already done all the fucking heavy lifting to like
bring a state across the finish line for you know,
people on the right side of history. And he takes
credit for it for work that and he makes a

(02:36:36):
gazillion dollars doing and that that five million bucks Brian
that TPUSA got to got over to Presler in June
of twenty twenty three to go fucking door knock in Wisconsin?

Speaker 9 (02:36:49):
What did that get anybody?

Speaker 13 (02:36:52):
Me and David used like when we were working through
the fucking Eric stuff. And that's that that statement came
out from TPUSA as we're working on the shit and
we both agree is like, just give us a million
bucks and we'll let the rest of the country like
fucking share the other four million, and we'll save the
entire republic. What you do, like counting, like take a

(02:37:16):
couple of pictures in door knock A couple of places
like where'd that five million go? And then you raise
a GoFundMe and get one hundred thousand dollars like fed
model tank, like brand new fucking.

Speaker 9 (02:37:30):
Tahoe or whatever. Who are you? Oh you're a spook.
Oh your brother is literally a COVID biological terrorist. Oh,
your dad is.

Speaker 13 (02:37:38):
Literally a fucking terrorist who works with the people that
knock down the fucking World Trade Center towers. Oh and
Miles Presler, Jennica's good buddy from Snapchat.

Speaker 9 (02:37:47):
I'm sure that's just a fucking coincidence too. And you
guys happen to not just be like.

Speaker 13 (02:37:52):
Data at Gurus, you actually happen to be partnered with
the people that developed and administer the Eric voter system.
So it's more likely that you're fucking complicit than it
is that you're doing anything to fucking help the problem.
And I've got the receipts posted in like the purple pill, Brian.

(02:38:14):
For everything that I'm sad, I tried to grab as
much of it as possible. Many of it, many of
these things have been like buried through a number of
accounts suspensions, but I tried to grab as much as I.

Speaker 9 (02:38:25):
Could and put it into the into the chest. So
like I'm going to stop, you know, for a minute.

Speaker 13 (02:38:30):
I think it might be easier if, like, if you
have questions, like to point me in like a.

Speaker 9 (02:38:37):
Specific thing that's going to be most relevant for you.

Speaker 13 (02:38:39):
Just there's like so much information I want to talk
about what's most poignant for the group.

Speaker 4 (02:38:44):
Hey, Jonathan gladymon, can I ask a question without you
saying that I'm distracting? What are your thoughts on act
Blue versus when Red?

Speaker 9 (02:38:58):
They're the boat, They're two sides of the same coin.

Speaker 4 (02:39:01):
Okay, thank you. So we need to get that information
out to people so that they stop sending money to
win Red because us aid IS has been pushing money
out to both of them for basically the same end

(02:39:22):
the game, which is globalism.

Speaker 13 (02:39:25):
So when read during the it was in between the
first and the second assassination attempts last year. There's a
city in British Columbia called Kolouna, and Kalouna is important
because it's a huge hub for one of General Dynamics subcontractors, which.

Speaker 9 (02:39:47):
Is called armor Works.

Speaker 13 (02:39:48):
Armor Works has a hub out there that's right next
door to basically this fucking Rockefeller's Like Central Hub. I
don't know what the fuck they do, but they hack
when Read a ship ton, and they hacked.

Speaker 9 (02:40:02):
A lot of other shit up there too.

Speaker 13 (02:40:04):
But during in between the first and second assassination attempts,
we literally caught when Read being hacked by these fagots
up in uh Colowna, British Columbia, and they.

Speaker 4 (02:40:16):
Were read sends a lot of money to Presler, and
Presler sends a lot of money back to when Red.

Speaker 9 (02:40:25):
Yeah, there are two sides that like win.

Speaker 13 (02:40:27):
Red is the Act Blue of the supposed like Republican Party,
but neither the Democrat or the Republican Party in its
current iteration serves the interests of like people who are
like I only give a shit about America and like
taking care of ourselves because we're in pretty bad shape

(02:40:48):
right now.

Speaker 9 (02:40:50):
Neither Act Blue nor When Red serve the interests of
those people.

Speaker 3 (02:40:59):
Dave bid Mark and I got a run, but hey,
DM ME, I want to make contact with you. We
got to share some information and thank you everyone. I
got a presentation starting in ten minutes of this hotel,
so I got to jump off, but thank you all.
I'll listen to the rest later. Appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (02:41:15):
Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:41:16):
Thanks Mark, I appreciate you being on. All right, So,
if anyone else has questions for Jonathan, who who's wan
on here? I'm not sure if yeah, I think Sean
Smith might drop. But if anyone else has any specific questions,
I request the MIC. I can promote you a speaker.
We can do some some Q and A. But remember

(02:41:37):
we're going to still adbide by the rules of the space.
So let's let's not have the personal attacks and let's uh,
let's stick to the date as much as we can.
All right, I don't and if any of the other
speakers have some questions, they can unmute.

Speaker 4 (02:42:01):
What data are you interested in pursuing? My data? Is
the IT end of things boring for most people?

Speaker 1 (02:42:13):
Well? Yeah, I mean that's a good question, because what
the point of this space is to, you know, identify
There's certain claims that Scott Presser made. We have evidence
that those claims are false. We have data that shows
those claims are false. You know, we're looking at financial data. Uh,
you know, we are just starting to look at the
technical and the IT data, and you know, Jonathan has

(02:42:34):
a lot on you know, the server and IP data
and all that stuff. And what are these connections going on?
So I think the focus is just, you know, is
there anything that starts people to question, you know, Scott
Pressler turning Point USA, what they're doing, what they're saying.
Is it helping the elections or is it hurting? Are
they are they aligned with president or are they against him?

Speaker 4 (02:42:58):
You know, I think they're I think they're actually hurting.
I think they're actually pulling data to figure out how
many Republican votes need to be countered for Democrat votes
to win. However they pad it.

Speaker 3 (02:43:19):
I know.

Speaker 4 (02:43:19):
His app is really not dangerous, but not good. It
pulls down information, It pulls down your contacts, and that's
why it makes so much informational situation. Data that's being

(02:43:42):
exposed of people are like, yeah, I've gotten texts from
this app and I don't even live in PA. And
it's because contacts are being pulled down from people that
do live in PA, but then their contacts don't live

(02:44:02):
in BA and that's being exploited. It basically is being exploited.

Speaker 9 (02:44:09):
So I can speak on that a little bit. If
you want me to ew.

Speaker 1 (02:44:12):
Money, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 9 (02:44:16):
So if you look at the landscape of.

Speaker 13 (02:44:23):
People that are supposedly on the ride, especially as it
relates like to people who are tied to TPUSA, which
you know, seems to be anybody with a large.

Speaker 9 (02:44:33):
Platform on the right nowadays.

Speaker 13 (02:44:35):
The problem that you have is that they are playing
a different game. They aren't playing the same game that
most normal Americans are playing. What they're playing is, yeah,
let's get Trump into office and then let's control the
people that he surrounds himself with, even if it means

(02:44:56):
we sacrifice Republican races to do. And one of the
biggest players behind this that doesn't get nearly the credit
that they deserve is Marissa Street. And Marissa Street who
is very tight with Charlie Kelly or Charlie Kirk brother

(02:45:16):
Charlie Kelly always Sonny. She's very tight with Charlie Kirk
who is the founder of TPUSA. She is the CEO
of Praeger University Preger University run founded by Dennis Prager,
run by a CEO Marissa Street, former IDF Unit eighty

(02:45:37):
two hundred officer basically Israeli Signals Intelligence, who is also
the co founder alongside with Ben Shapiro and Matt Boring
of The Daily Wire and if you want like any
kind of indication of what the American people, the normies
the US are feeling. Look at the collapse of Daily Wire,

(02:45:58):
and look at the collapse of their.

Speaker 9 (02:46:00):
Subscription base and their views, and.

Speaker 13 (02:46:02):
The revenues that they're bringing in, not backstopped revenues that
come from the taxpayer and from offshore you know, financiers
like Seth Klarman. Look at the subscribers. The customer base
is over their bullshit, and they're over Peger University's bullshit,
and they're over tpusa's bullshit. But it's even more sinister

(02:46:23):
because who does Marissa Street really work for?

Speaker 9 (02:46:27):
Marissa Street really works for God? By the name of
Adam Milstein.

Speaker 13 (02:46:31):
Adam Milstein is the dude who's behind the Israel, the
Israel American Coalition, He's behind Canary Mission, He's behind fucking
Scheryon Collective. Who are these organizations, Well, Adam Milstein is
usually influential at TPUSA as well. Who are these organizations

(02:46:52):
that I mentioned other than TPUSA, Well, they're the organization
that basically goes on Twitter and on social media channels
and identifies anybody who is not on board with, you know,
sending money to Israel. Or Ukraine or not on board
with certain agendas, and they try to get people's lives

(02:47:13):
and livelihoods destroyed, and people have gotten wise to this.
And TPUSA having the back door in through super Feed,
which is also an offshore controlled and financed operation, gives
them carte blanche access to do this from their own
little apparatus in fucking Phoenix, Arizona known as TPUSA. And

(02:47:37):
who else is involved with TPUSA Sebastian Gorka.

Speaker 9 (02:47:40):
Who is he?

Speaker 13 (02:47:41):
He's the son of a fucking Hungarian Nazi from the
Fortezi rind who actually helped load Jews on trains in
the thirties and forties in Nazi Germany and Hungary.

Speaker 9 (02:47:53):
He's a fucking spy.

Speaker 13 (02:47:55):
His wife, Catherine, works for the Department of Homeland Security
in the Global Engagement Center basically implementing the Integrity Initiative.
And for those who don't know, I think you said
it money, like everything serving globalist interests, Yeah, the Global
Engagement Center and the Integrity Initiative serve the interests of

(02:48:15):
NATO and the Atlantic Council, which is the global subversion
of sovereign nations on behalf of these global interests that
aren't at all like in accordance with what we the
American people want. And why does Sebastian Gorka matter Because
he's on the senior advisory board at TPUSA and he

(02:48:38):
got such a you know, good recommendation that now he's
supposedly vetting people for the DJT to administration.

Speaker 9 (02:48:47):
And who else is who else did.

Speaker 13 (02:48:48):
He get to, you know, have Trump put into his
basically cabinet. Well, you got shar Ram Krishnan from Andreas
and Horowitz one of you know they're AI people, Mark
Andresen again, and you've got fucking Jacob Holberg. Do you
guys know who Jacob Holberg is? That's fucking the husband

(02:49:14):
of what's the dude from Founders Funds name?

Speaker 9 (02:49:17):
Keith Rayboy?

Speaker 1 (02:49:19):
Hey Jonathan, Hey, Jonathan. Let me interrupt. So I am
getting pulled into another meeting. I'm gonna have to close
out the space. But what I'd like you to do
is if you want to start another space and then
post the link here in the comments for this one,
if people want to continue and join that one. I
am gonna have to close out this space unfortunately, but
I do want to thank you particularly and everyone else

(02:49:41):
who is speaking and joining in listeners. Please do visit
Real Scott Presser dot com for the data. We can
do a fallow up space. There's been to talk about that. Unfortunate.
I am gonna have to to to step out and
then I'm gonna have to close the space down. But
I really appreciate it, and please do If Jonathan, if
you want to continue another space post the here, please
do join his space and we can do another follow

(02:50:03):
up one. But thank you again to all our speakers.
Really appreciate everyone adhering to you know, our our guidelines
for this, and please do continue getting the word out.
You can also you know view you know my website
Brianfarance dot com or Magnamine podcast dot com. But thank
you again to all, and we are going to end
the space, but I really appreciate everyone for joining.

Speaker 4 (02:50:25):
Thank you, Thanks Brian, thank you,