May 9, 2025 • 79 mins
In this gripping episode of the Magickal Journey Podcast, we sit down with Anna Caywood Jones, a fearless female cryptid researcher known for her work in the notorious Land Between the Lakes (LBL) — one of the most chilling cryptid hotspots in the U.S.Anna shares her powerful connection to the alleged 1982 LBL massacre, a dark and widely whispered legend involving the brutal deaths of a family of four. Speaking directly from the entrance to the infamous attack site, Anna takes us deep into her boots-on-the-ground investigation, personal experiences, and her chilling theories about what really happened in those woods.With suspense, mystery, and revelations you won’t forget, this episode builds to a climactic conclusion that will leave even the most seasoned cryptid hunter shaken. If you’re into Dogman encounters, true cryptid fieldwork, or unexplained wilderness attacks — this is a must-listen.
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Speaker 1 (05:01):
And am Mike Kay, how are you doing tonight? Dude?
I gotta get you on here soon too. Okay, without
further ado, I'm going to introduce you guys to an
amazing Amazings and guest. You don't know how I've been
waiting all week for this. She is a boots on
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the ground researcher in some of the most notorious places
in the area. And she's an amazing person, just a
very very sweet soul. It's amazing to see somebody like
this who's willing to go out in the snakes and
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other things to be able to hunt for the answers.
And I am talking about no one other than the
one and the only Anna, okay with Jones. Hey, Hi,
did I just butcher your middle name?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, I'll practice that all the time because there's a
tendency for me to want to say say it wrong
for some reason. I want to add letters. I want
to add letters. Okay. So Anna, as if you need
any introduction, I tell people about who you are, what
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you're doing, and we'll get into the where you are
in a bit and then and then tell us a
little bit about your YouTube channels as well.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Okay. My name is Anna, and I have had paranormal
experiences from a very young age. I was really young,
like two three years old when paranormal experiences started happening
to me, and I grew up as a kid in
the seventies and a teen in the eighties. During that time,
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there wasn't the TV shows that are shown now, and
you were told to keep your mouth shut. People didn't
believe you, you were crazy. You know, you didn't talk
about the paranormal stuff during those times. It wasn't until,
like I'm going to say, the early two thousands, more
people started talking about this, and then more shows started
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coming out, And all this time I was searching for
answers for what was happening to me. And I'm also
a Christian, and I didn't understand some of the stuff
that was going on. So it was it's been a
lifelong search for me to understand the things that were
happening to me personally in our home and with my family.
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And I think at this point in the journey in
my life, I have figured out I'm hearing noises over
here to my left, So I have figured out some
of those things. And I haven't had a whole lot
of the cryptid experiences until twenty twenty two. But in
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my opinion, I think it's all all the same thing.
It's all connected. And we just had patrol go by,
and that happens here all the time. So if they
turn around and come back, they might have to go
to the hotel, just let you know. But that happens
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a lot here. Out of the blue. You're in the
middle of nowhere, they show up.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow, So tell us where you're at right now.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Right now behind me is the gate that leads down
to the alleged nineteen eighty two massacre site of the
dog Man that so many people talk about. These are
the gates. Usually they're locked. Don't have a lock on them.
Now in front of me, there is a cemetery and
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it's about eighth of them mile, i'd say, back and between.
I'm going to say it was in twenty three a
huge tree fell on the trail back here, so you
have to go up over this huge tree to get
back in there. But that's where what some people call
the bunkers. I've been back in there multiple times. So
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we're out here in the LBL and it's going to
be getting dark setting, and we just had forest rangers
go by. So and I've already heard something over here
to my left, but I have walked this trail multiple
times back there to the bunkers.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Wow. Before we get too much farther, let's promote those
YouTube channels as well.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay, Well, if you like gardening. You can follow my
jonestead Farm YouTube channel. I do a lot of my
own gardening, canning, raising as much food for ourselves as
we can. And my other one, because I wanted to
keep them separate, is Crypto Kentucky and that's where I
do a lot of the investigations or places that I visit,
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any evidence that I find, I try to make videos.
Keep in mind that out at my home, we live
out in the country and we don't have internet out there,
so everything that I do, all the editing that I
do is through my phone, so it's not Grade A,
but it gets you get to see some of the
things that are going on and where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Wow, I'm you know, I got to tell you, I'm
low key Jella's the fact that you live out there
in that area minus the snakes.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, I know. We walked back through here a little
bit earlier because I wanted to see how well the
reception was and I was watching for the snakes.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, give me bigfoot any day or a snake. So
let me ask you this, what really like? How did
you get started with being like a boots on the
ground and like researcher.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I had always wanted to do paranormal research. That was
where it started for me. But because I feel like
I am an EmPATH, I always held back from joining
a paranormal group because I was always afraid that I
would get attachments and I would bring stuff home with me.
So it always held me off because I was scared
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of that. I'd had so many paranormal experiences in my
past and I had been able to get things, you know,
pretty calm, and I thought, what if I join a group,
get out there, and I just start bringing things home
with me. How am I going to reac to that?
Is that the right thing for me to do? You know?
So I kind of just did my own thing by
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myself for a while. But in twenty twenty two, a
friend of mine, we'd come down here to the LBL
to camp and it was August of twenty twenty two,
and that was the same weekend as the dog Man
Conference in Paris, Tennessee, which is at the other end
of LBL because it runs through Kentucky down into Tennessee.
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And my friend Martin Nuneley was going to be there.
And I've known him for quite a while and he
hardly ever would do conferences or anything like that, and
I was like, Oh, he's finally doing a conference, so
I'll get to go see him. And it wasn't too
far away from me and Lo and Behold. It was
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a crazy weekend as far as what we were hearing,
what we were seeing, the evidence that we got. It
was a very crazy weekend. We camp at Boswell Landing
and it is a primitive camping area. You have a
gravel pad, you have a fire ring, and you have
a picnic table. That's it. There's no electric there's no
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lights out there, there's nothing like that. So you need
to bring everything you need with you. So it was
very primitive. And my friend she had all of the
camping gear, so excuse me. She pitched a tent and
I stayed in the back of the jeep kind of
car camping and we didn't expect anything. You know, she'd
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been camping a lot. We get down there and it
was a crazy weekend. Things happened down there in Boswell.
We were terrified. I can tell you that we were
absolutely terrified for two nights. We stayed there Friday night
and we stayed Saturday night. We didn't sleep hardly at all.
We were seeing orbs, different colored orbs. I saw what
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I can only explain is the silhouette of a bigfoot.
It was in the shape of a bigfoot, but it
was totally black. And when it gets night out here
in LBL, it is so dark, it is so dark.
But that thing showed up darker than the darkness. And
I was sitting on a picnic table and it was
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in front of me, facing me, and I was seeing it.
And because of the paranormal experiences that I had had
in the past, I wasn't seeing far, I wasn't seeing eyes,
but I was seeing that coned head, the large shoulders,
long arms, and then about below the waist, it just
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kind of faded into the darkness, and I thought that
was odd, but that's what I was seeing. So I thought,
if I give it attention, it's going to give it strength.
That's how I have always felt about the paranormal. It
will feed on you. I said, so I'm not going
to pay attention to it. And then I started doubting
myself because it didn't move. But when my friend walked
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from the cemetery, she had a headlamp on and she
started coming across that road to our campsite. This thing
turned its head towards her and it looked like it
was taking a step towards her. And when it moved
like that about had a heart attack. And then her
headlamp swept around where that thing was standing. There was
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nothing there.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Wow. Yeah, So yeah, that's kind of you know, people
talk about these things all the time, and yeah, the
way they just kind of like come in and go out,
and some of the other paranormal behavior that they have.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yes, because we were saying orbs before that happened, the
red ones in the cemetery and then white ones in
the woods. Because Boswell Landing is out in the middle
of nowhere, but it has a lot of Civil War
history right around it. Yeah, there's a fort, a Civil
War fort. There's a Civil War graveyard just you know,
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up the road from it. So there's a lot of history. There,
a lot of bloodshed down there. And it also has
the dog Man Trail that is in Martin Grove's second book.
I believe it's his second one, the dog Man Trail.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think you're right. Yeah, I've read a lot of books,
so it's hard for me to remember which one.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Oh my goodness, And you may hear traffic because this
trail is close to the Trace, and the Trace is
the one road, two lane road that runs forty miles
through the LBL and that's the only way you get
on these little roads in here, and it's called the Trace.
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So you may hear some traffic because it's not that
far away from the two lane road back here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, so you're talking about the trace in not that Okay.
I was like, okay, wait a minute, is not just
trace go through there? But no, it's not that. It's
a different trace. Yeah, Okay, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
The main road that goes down through l BEL.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Right now that you said that, I know what you're
talking about. But I'm here in this in where I
live at Murphy's Borough. If somebody says the Trace, they're
talking about not just trace because it's not that far away.
So I always like, the first time I heard you
guys talking about the Trace, I was like, not the
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Trace that I know, right.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, it's just the main two lane road that runs
through the middle of the peninsula that's between Lake Barkley
in Lake in Kentucky. Lake just a two lane road.
It didn't even have any emergency lanes in it. Just
a two lane and it gets kind of windy in areas,
but it runs the length of the peninsula down here.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh wow, Now you have a special connection to the
story of the nineteen eighty alleged story of the nineteen
eighty two massacre. Yeah, tell us a little bit about that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I was friends with Jan Thompson. We met online back
in the early two thousands. She had her story originally
on a website called guardian Tells, and that is where
I read her story originally, and we got in touch
with each other, and it wasn't too long after that
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she was in touch with Bart and her story that
she told, the retelling of what the officers told her
that night, is in Bart's first book called Mysterious Kentucky.
It's also on his Inhumanoids channel, and he reads that
story on his in Humanoids channel by Jan, because he
knew Jan pretty well too. I was actually supposed to
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meet up with Jan in October of two thousand and
seven to come down here, and she was going to
take me around to all the places down through here,
and I had to cancel that because my husband's sister
passed away that week and I never did, like get
back with Jan to do that trip again, and I
so regret it. I so regret not doing that with her.
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But we had many, many talks. She was one of
the people that helped me understand the paranormal that was
going on with me. Also, Bart, He's he always through
the years, any questions I ever had, he was always
a mentor to me as well as Jan. Jan was
a member of a Pair of Normal group and she
did a lot of paranormal investigations in the LBL area
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and the Hopkinsville area and Grand Rivers. So she had
a website. If you go to the Internet archives, you
can find her website. I can't think of the name
of it right now, but I can send it to
you later. And it has a lot of her investigations
on there, pictures that she had taken from her paranormal investigations. Yeah,
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it's Friday Night on the Trace I but yeah, she
did a lot of that. And so she had a
lot of her own experiences with the paranormal as well
as things happening inside of LBL. So do I believe her, Yeah,
I believe what happened. You know, this was not her experience.
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She was retelling what was told to her, and she
always said that she could not one hundred percent verify this,
but she believed the officers that had come in that
night to the store and told her what had gone on.
And there's just too many because I don't believe in coincidences.
There's just too many things that can line up. And
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I think it was hidden. That's why you can't find
like go in and try to find like police reports
and stuff like that. Jan even told me that the
bunkers that are down here could possibly have been used
to hunt that thing after it had killed the family.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh wow, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Now one of those down there, to me looks like
it's a water cistern. I've seen a lot of cisterns
before in my life, and one of them down there
kind of looks like a cistern to me. The other one,
I don't know what it is. The entrance is facing
the hill. Why would you put an entrance facing a
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tall hill? I don't get that. I wish I could
walk you guys down there and show you, but I
don't think. The reception gets worse the further back you get,
and there's other buildings back in here. You can see
there's a just a staircase, just a staircase just sitting
in the middle of the woods back here, and there's
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other concrete block where you can see that something was
back in here. So it's a really interesting place.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I know that Jesse and Joel Doyle has given us
some video of the location before and the investigations, and
is shown like the concrete paths and parts of pavement
as just stuff that doesn't I mean, you just don't
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come out in the wild. Yeah, So they've definitely they've
proven time and time again, not only not only hel Holler,
but some other research groups have shown video. I think
it hasn't hasn't Barton also shown the video before of
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some of the stuff out that way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's many.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Way if you've ever been a camper before or had
a travel camper. There are a couple of roundabouts back
in here, like for campground. Do I know for sure
that there was a campground back here, I'm not certain,
but there are roundabouts two back here.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Wow, Dizzy, welcome to the channel. I noted. I know
you were going to jump in at some point, so
I'm glad you're here. So here's here's one of the
things I want to camp on for a second about this, Like,
so many people were saying that because of the style
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that this the reaccount was given it and so forth,
that they felt like it was it was possibly not
completely accurate or maybe embellished or whatever. But you said
that she had been a paranormal investigator, probably had written
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reports in the past. Yeah, so she was used to
communicating online, yes, and so forth with people. So maybe
that was part of the reason why this style was
kind of writer type.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, it could have been. Yeah, I mean she was
good at communicating. I mean she was like that when
we would email a text back and forth. She wrote
that one I still have some of her email messages
to me that I said, And she was just a
very poetic, detail oriented writer, even in just a simple email.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wow. I see. This is one of the reasons why
it's really important for us to look at all of
the evidence. Yeah, all of that means even the mundane stuff. Yeah,
how was this person? You know, what type of person?
How do you do they have? How how was there
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you know, what was their skill sets? All kinds of things,
Because time and time again, her retelling of the story
has been attacked over and over again. Yeah, because it's
the only thing, the only tangible thing that we have
have it is. Yeah, and even I'm going to say this, guys,
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because we all know this. It's even been refuted by
someone who claimed to be there that night. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Yeah, And he has his right to his opinion, you know,
and all of this carrying on that happens with the
paranormal it's you know, has a right to tell his
version of what he feels like happened or could have
happened to him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Right, right, again. What I'll say about that is, I
think it's important that we all do the research and
come up with our own opinion on which version is right,
which one is wrong, that kind of thing, because I
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know there are people that will will flat out say
I don't believe this.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Yeah, it's I think it's one Gabby and Elijah's channel,
Cryptid Studies Institute. I think they did like a very
detailed look at this trail down here, and I think
they've even got maps that they did if I'm remembering correctly,
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about how this could have been set up as a
camping area. Now, if it's a camping area back in here,
it was a smaller one, but the road does go
on down through here to the lake to Lake Barkley,
but it's very overgrown now. But they did a very
good study of this area, if anybody wants to look
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at that. And they did have comments left in there
about people that were going to high school at the
time and heard that story while they were going to
high school.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's one of the things that's really important to take
note of too, is it was high schools in Kentucky.
I believe that that I read about that we're the
kids were talking about this, Yeah, and in the halls,
you know, during before class and so forth. So I
think that's a very important thing that I mean, granted,
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you know, high school, we talked about a lot of
weird stuff that may or may not have happened. The
fact that this story was being spoken of publicly at
that time period, yeah, kind of lends a little bit
of an eyebrow raise at least.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, Now, I'm not going to sit there and tell
you guys, this is this is whine percent what happened.
I know four five I don't know for a.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Fact, Yeah, And I don't know for a fact, right.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But we do know that there is evidence two back
up the claim. Yeah, yeah, take it for what it's worth.
You do the research, and uh so, let's talk for
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a little bit about let's let's bring it back to
present day a little bit. What are some of the
things that you have personally experienced at the LBL, like
even recently, that you can talk about that gives credence
to some of the legends.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, I know, Small Town Monsters was out here and
they interviewed Gabby. I'm hearing stuff behind me. Yeah, I'm
starting to get dark and I'm hearing stuff back here.
Could be just animals, but Gabby was interview about seeing
the dog man run across the road in front of
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her one night in May of twenty three. I was
actually in a car in front of them, so it
kind of ran between us. Now, there was a ten
minute span of time between that and this was in
maya twenty three, so it's two years ago that that happened.
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And we had a crazy experience ourself that night. I
can't explain to you how weird that night was in
the LBL. I have a short interview in Greg Ogle's
film The Land between the Lakes Cryptic Expeditions, and that
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was just a very small taste of what happened to
us that night when we went out to investigate. When
we've left the campsite that night, it's probably around eleven PM,
and we headed out. I was in a car with
Letitia and Michelle, and then war was in his truck
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with Gabby and Elijah, and they were behind us, and
it was just our two cars. We went out to
do some investigating. And as we're going down the trace,
which is the middle of the peninsula here, we've looked
up and the moon was bright orange, almost red. It
was illuminating the clouds around it, and we gasped. We
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all gasped at the color of this moon. It was
just neon. It was beautiful. And I even took some
pictures with my cell phone and it just doesn't do
it justice. It just doesn't pick up the moon very
well with a cell phone camera. So we head on
down the trace. The amount of deer that was out
along the trace that night was insane. I live in
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the country, I grew up in the country. I'm used
to seeing deer on the side of the road. The
amount of deer out that night was unbelievable. We saw hundreds.
I'm not kidding you hundreds of deer that night, and
we did go all the way down to Boswell Landing,
So being able to see that many deer at once
is because we drove all the way down to Boswell
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and it's about a forty five minute drive from the
beginning of the trace at Grand Rivers. So we were
seeing all these deer. We saw bats, We saw an owl.
I think we saw like two owls. We saw armadillos
because there's armadillo's down here, and why were all these
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animals coming out? There was a beaver in the road.
We had to swerve to miss a beaver, and then
more and one behind us. They stopped their truck and
Elijah got out and filmed it. It was just sitting
in the middle of the road, the amount of animals
we saw that night. But it felt like they were
being flushed out of the woods. It was like everything
was being pushed out of those woods. So we went
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to Boswell. We got out there and we investigated a
little bit down there. I was taking pictures. None of
them would turn out. It was like a white cloud.
Every single picture I took down there in Boswell. Can't
explain it, don't know why did it. No, my finger
wasn't over the lands, but yeah, I kept taking pictures
and showing leticians. She's like, why are your pictures not
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showing up? And she took a couple. We just mine
wouldn't show up that night. It was like something did
not want anything to be shown. So we investigated down
there a little bit and we left war and Elijah
and Gabby they went into Dover, which was the opposite direction,
to get gas and get a drink, and we went
back up the trace towards the north end where we
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were camping, and on our way back, we saw something
on the side of the road beside a guardrail that
had red eyes, laser red eyes, and it was like
it was looking right at us, like it wanted us
to see it, like it was trying to make a
connection with us. That's the way it seemed. And these
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eyes were really, honestly, like two lasers. And then suddenly
this thing unfurled wings and they looked exactly like bat wings.
Did not have any feathers on it at all. It
looked like bat wings, and it twisted. It did not
flap its wings at all. It just twisted and it
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was gone, and we were like what did we just see?
What was that? So we were trying to figure out
are there any bats in the LBO that would look
like that? But we couldn't find anything online. We got
back to camp and we were telling our friends that
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were that had stayed at camp up what we had seen.
And I know Christa from Blondes and Boo, she was
trying to look up animals, you know, in the LBEL
or legends of certain things because and Letitia dubbed it
the mini moth man because it's kind of what it
looked like with those red eyes. It was just small.
The wingspan was about three feet and it wasn't real tall,
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like what you would think mini mothman. And we were
telling them about the moon. Everybody back at camp. We
were telling them what the moon looked like, and they said,
what are y'all talking about? It's just a white moon,
just a regular white moon. Everybody back at camp just
saw a regular white moon. But us in the cars
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that were driving down the trace, it was bright orange,
almost red. And then a few minutes later they pulled
up and Gabby gets out, she says, we just saw
the dog man. What is going on tonight? It was
the one of the craziest nights. It was honestly like
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we had driven into or slipped into another veil or something.
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It would be interesting if you guys would keep Do
you keep a journal of these things?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I do, so.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Send me the date that that happened if you can, Yeah, day,
date and year. Okay, it would be very interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
It was a full moon weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Right, all right, and that's that's one of the things
that it would be very interesting to see what's going
on astrologically and so forth at that point.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, that would be interesting. The night that I saw
that outline of what I can only say is like
foot It was a full moon that weekend, and we
were also having a meteor shower that night. It was
the August meteor shower.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Now My most recent I found a print at Boswell
Landing in October of twenty four. We went down there
for a group camp and it's beautiful at Boswell, but
it's very scary at night. But I was curious because
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of what I had experienced there before, and went walking
because there was a cemetery. I think it's the Campbell Cemetery.
I think is it Campbell Cemetery. Yeah, I think it's
Campbell Cemetery that's up there. It's a small one. And
I was walking with a friend and we saw this stuff.
She saw it first, all twisted around this tree was
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different kinds of branches from different types of trees, and
it was twisted around a small tree. So we stopped
to look at that, and I thought, yeah, So I
started looking for prince and I found one and I
got a picture of it, and then Letitia found another
one that was a little further back down in it
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like a gully. I have a video of that on
my crypt at Kentucky Channel, And that's my most recent
finding here in LBL And also that same camp out
in October, because there was a large group of us there.
We were around the fire by the bay, and I
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can only say that what we heard was not a wolf,
but it was canine. It was so loud. The lung
capacity that chess capacity this thing had to have. And
I've heard it before in here, two other times I've
heard this, but you know, it's not your typical sized wolf.
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This thing has got to have a large lung capacity
to be able to howl the way this thing heled.
Have you ever heard a wolf howl, even on TV
or whatever. This sounds different. It's powerful. And we heard
that that night, had a couple of people sit beside me.
That thing sounded off. They jumped up. And it usually
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follows with coyote's howling after that, very very often it'll
right before or inside the coyote howling. So whenever we're
out investigating and we start hearing the coyotes, we stopped
to listen because that happens so often. I don't know
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if they're trying to call with them or disguise, because
they can't really disguise the way that sounds. But when
a coyotes start, we start listening ourselves. It always correlates.
For some reason, it correlates.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So that's something that I have not heard people talk
about now. Very interesting. One of the things though, that
that's really important to note here is that the description
you just gave about the sound itself like that was
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a pretty graphic description. And if you go back and
you reference Martin Groves, Darrington and a lot of the
people who who we all are familiar with and some
of their descriptions, you'll notice that people are giving the
same sorts of detail in their own words.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Yeah, Margins in October, we were down there.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, it's very important to understand that. Like, just like
when people give reaccounts of something and they never veer
from the structure of the story, it's the same way
with multiple accounts of things. When you hear the same
thing over and over and over from multiple people, there's
(41:28):
a good chance that one of two things are happening
mass hysteria or they're reaccounting a truthful experience. Okay, it's
getting dark quick there.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
And see it getting dark back here? Yeah you can
still you can feel it getting dark or I can't.
Right now, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Like the sun was out a min ago and boom,
you can tell already, Like how quick it's that's just
creepy itself.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
And here I am out in it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's what I'm saying. I don't understand how like everything
that I know about that place, Like I don't mind
remote viewing that area, but personally, I don't know that
I could go any farther in than the entrance way
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to that area.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I can tell you that me feeling like I'm an
EmPATH when I'm in here, it feels very sad, and
when you look at its history where over eight hundred
people lived in here, had homes, they had businesses, they
had schools. The farming in here, the farms or ancestral homes,
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I mean generations, and it was all taken from them.
It was all taken. I mean, I've heard horror stories
about how these people were removed from their homes and
their livelihoods here and the place feels sad to me.
It feels sad and sometimes angry. It was angry in here.
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There's over two hundred and seventy cemeteries in here along
the forty miles of the trace, two hundred and seventy.
And I don't think that they got everybody when they flooded,
because they're in Birmingham. During the winter when the water
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pool is lower, you can see tombstones coming up. And
they promised the families that everybody would be relocated so
they could still come visit their families. And they didn't do.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
That, No, they did not.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
One of the photos that I've seen of the what
you're talking about, the graves that are underwater most of
the time, I remember looking at one of them, the
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one that everybody you see us, like the first thing
when you do a Google search on the l B
L and a very clear voice I heard crying.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
So I'm particularly a little bit on the defensive about
what the government did to those people in that area.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
It is, it is. I mean, they took they had
these people go to a meeting, a meeting, and while
they were there, some of them were getting their houses
bulldozed and burned. And so so let's talk about southern
(45:19):
hospitality for a minute, you know, with the people that
were there. So, yes, there's a lot of sadness there.
There's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
The forest rangers are stopping them, backing up.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, I might tell it to they may. Yeah, it's happening.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah, silver old silver FOI I don't think I've seen
a silver pick up. We saw like a little red
cor go down this way. Okay, yeah, okay, now we're
(46:05):
looking for oh my gosh, it's a silver pickup truck.
You said you should be driving. Okay, so do we
can't do? We need like your number something.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Y'all here, I don't think you come down okay, right here,
it's it's called for serrug Okay, y'all filming a video
or something.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Yeah, we're just doing a video. What kind of podcast? Yeah,
you want to come? Say hot? What is called the
magical Journey? All kinds of different things in life, yes, adventures,
all kinds of things that goes on in take care
(46:54):
of thank you. So they're looking for a lady in
a silver truck. They said she should not be driving
and she's missing. And that's what he stopped to ask me.
So they're out here looking for a missing person that
(47:17):
could be driving a silver pickup truck and we're to
call nine one one if we see her. That's what
he just said. I don't know if you were able
to hear him, but that's what he just told us.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Wow. Yeah, And see, this is one of the things
that's very interesting too, is like people get drawn into
this area. It's like one of the things that has
been told to me more than once, not necessarily by
(47:47):
by physical entities before, but is that people get drawn
into this area.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Yeah, we have no clothes right off the trail right
over here, Yeah, sitting there.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, and it's it's so I mean when people say
the lb A is no joke, Well, what they're kind
of talking about limit what.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
Just happened, missing person, right.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Right, So you sent some photos. I'm going to try
to do this. This is kind of a first for me,
so I'm trying to to uh play play advocate here
and see about some of these Let's see, I'm gonna
(48:40):
pull up because you sent some photos of h First
of all, some prints that you found seem okay, so
(49:08):
what are we looking at here?
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Okay? That was the print that I found in October
of twenty four down at Boswell Landing. And if you
look up towards the top of that where my foot
is sitting, you can see the impression of toes. It
was very deep and it was as big, not a
little longer than my foot. But you can see the
impression of toes up there at the top. It was
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really deep.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Wow, and that's a that's a wide Oh my gosh. Yeah,
that's really wide and long.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Interesting. Yeah, and it's very possible that. Yeah, I kind
of feel like maybe that was you know, that's interesting one.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
H I'd see you see how dark it is behind.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Me, right, and it's just going to get more. So okay,
so this kier. What are we looking at here? Now?
Speaker 5 (50:27):
This is not in the LBL. This is a different
area that me and my daughter and my husband we
like to go to investigate. It's in central Kentucky, New Watsburg, Kentucky,
and Anderson County, and it's a wildlife area. It's very
well known for bigfoot sightings through the years, and I
(50:48):
believe Small Town Monsters has done a documentary or two
on this particular area for the bigfoot sightings. So this
is close to us and very close to where my
husband grew up by the Kentucky River. So we go
down here to investigate. We have gotten some really good
pictures and stuff from down in here, but that you know,
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can I know for sure what that is? No, but
it looked like a little glowing green figure in the
distance standing in the tree line.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Wait a minute, glowing green.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
It's right there in the middle, right right above. It
kind of to me looks like it has like a
little bit of a green glow to it, and it
kind of looks like a person standing there. Oh, it's
right above where I put a figure right right.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Oh wow, I don't know if you guys can tell that.
I wish there was some way to be able to
blow this up a little better.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
Just kind of stood out, Timmy, So.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
You guys can actually see it. Yeah, it's very interesting
that this thing is growing, glowing green. That's in itself.
It's kind of an interesting experience. Wow, I'm telling you guys,
some of the things that these folks are catching on
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film is I mean, how can you? I'm sorry, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
What it is, but it just stood out to me
when I was going back through my pictures and I
was like, that's a little odd looking right there. I
think I'll mark.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
That one, I mean a little bit. Yeah, So and
then we have.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
Yeah, my daughter took that picture and if you look
in the middle of those trees, you will see a figure.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
It's that is clear. That is super clear.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
Yes, there's She did nothing to that picture. That's what
that looked like that night. And we went back during
the day and I just I didn't have those pictures
on my phone to send you. But we went back
there during the day and my daughter walked down there
to the tree that's the farthest to the right in
that picture that's kind of leaning, and she was teeny
(53:20):
tiny up next to that tree. That thing had to
have been over twelve feet tall. Whatever it is, but yeah,
you can see I can see legs on that. It
looks like its arms are outstretched.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
It was.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
It was huge, whatever that was, and she caught it.
I had taken a picture two minutes I think it
was after. It was either two minutes before she took
this picture or two minutes after, because we looked at
the time stamps on it. My pictures were clear there
wasn't anything in it. Two minutes later she took that
picture and that's what she caught. We didn't see it
(53:58):
with our own eyes while we were taking the picuretures,
but I can tell you that we had left a
particular area and we were driving down the road. We
heard coyotes, so we stopped and started taking pictures, and
that was what came out in the pictures. And then
in one of mine, I had a lot of light
anomalies that showed up and we stopped because we heard
(54:20):
the coyotes.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Wow, I mean, these are not your typical pictures.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
That one blew my mind. When my daughter showed me
that one, she's like, Mom, what is this? I was like,
I don't know what that is, but it's there. It
showed itself and that's the light anomalies. If you can see,
there's about four of them, and that's where the river is.
It's a it's a little river with a tree line
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right on the banks. And I see four light anomalies
in that picture.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Mm hmm. Yeah, I'm seeing them too, and I.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
See them every time I go down there, right.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Obviously Justin White saw them too, really, So that is
one of the things that's very interesting is like there's
I've talked to people before who've all agreed that, like Ohio, Kentucky,
(55:32):
West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, high strangeness all through these areas
a lot of similar things being reported.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah, maybe, yeah, it could be that our family has
been tagged lot.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
You know, I am RH negative bloodline. I have wondered
about that myself.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
So why did I know you were going to say that?
So there is one that's rather interesting too. What is this?
Speaker 5 (56:16):
This is just behind me. I don't know what it is.
I guess you could call it a glyph, That's how
I refer to it. But because the way I walk
where I was injured in a head on collision years ago,
I look down at the ground every step I take,
just because I don't have full mobility in my knees
(56:38):
in my right ankle. So I look at the ground
and this was setting off to the side as we
were walking down to the bunkers, and I was like,
what is that? And it was just sitting there. And
this was in an area that was off the path,
a little bit off the main path to the bunkers
back here, so it wasn't like it was right out
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where so many people walk to go straight down to
the bunkers. This was awful little bit. You had to
go a different direction to find that. And when I
saw it, I was like, I'm just going to get
a picture of that. I did try to go back
and find that earlier, but they've had so much rain
down here, like the flooding that we just recently had.
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They had sixteen inches of rain down here in LBL,
So you can tell that the water has washed down
through here, and it probably washed it away because I
couldn't find it anymore.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (57:38):
I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
It looks familiar for some reason. That's why I keep
looking at it. I'm like, what, I know, there's something
about that. Sooner or later, I'll think of it, but
it does look very familiar. Once I want to see
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where is.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Okay, No, yeah, that one I wish i'd sent you
one that was that you could blow up that I
had more blown up than that, because if you we
had a friend with us that night and he kept saying,
(58:30):
I'm seeing a black figure over there in the tree
line moving. So when he said that, I just went
over there and started taking pictures and you can see
a shadow figure standing there, and over to the right
you can see a face speaking from behind those branches. Now,
(58:53):
if you go to my Cryptic Kentucky channel, I do
have a short about that, and I think it's titled well,
I can't remember how I titled that one, but it's
a short. But I also have a video on that
as well to where you can see it blown up
and you see it right there a face along with
that shadow figure side by side. So he was seeing
(59:16):
something and that's I think what it was. And that
is in the Anderson County area. That's not Ilbil, that's
the Anderson County spot.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah. Now, one of the photos that you said I'm
extremely curious about because I didn't get a chance to
really thoroughly look at the emails, but this one, I'm
(59:47):
sure there's a story behind this.
Speaker 5 (59:55):
Oh yeah, that is my car from nineteen ninety five
and my family. I was in the passenger seat, I
was not buckled. My husband was driving. Both of my
daughters were in the back. We had been down to
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Harrington Lake and was looking at lake lots because at
that time our dream was to build a little log
cabin on the lake, and so we went down to
be sure that the lot we had picked out was
exactly what we wanted. And on the way home, someone
completely came over the yellow line and hit us head
(01:00:37):
on doing sixty. They never hit their brakes. There were
no emergency lanes, and there were cars behind the person
that was driving, so we had nowhere to go, and
she slammed into us, and my oldest daughter was six
years old at the time. Immediately after that happened, I
(01:01:01):
was awake. I remember burned, the smell of burning rubber
and it freeze. The car was popping, and I can
remember hearing my kids cry, and I knew they were
alive because I could hear him crying. My husband reached
(01:01:21):
over and tried to get my seat back and the
dash had come in so far that he could the
dash came in so far that the radio cut his stomach,
and the steering whettle bent where he was holding onto it.
When the paramedics got to us, they told my husband
I had three minutes to live because I was bleeding out,
(01:01:43):
and they called in a air vak, but they only
had one available at the time, and the person that
hit us, her husband had trying not to be too graphic,
but he had kind of gone through up into the
windshield and he had a lot of head trauma. So
they chose to take him on the MIDEVAC and I
(01:02:06):
was to go by ambulance, and they had to bring
in the jaws of life cut through the car. They
had to take the jaws of life. They used for
thirty minutes trying to get me out of there. Then
they took a log in chain, hid it around the
dash and pulled the car up off of meat to
get me out. And when they pulled me out, my daughter,
(01:02:29):
who was six years old, she witnessed this and later
on she would tell me, Mom, when they took you
out of the car, you were all bloody and your
legs were going the wrong way. And she was so
terrified by that sight she refused to come to the
hospital to see me because she thought that's what she
was going to see again. And she had nightmares for
(01:02:49):
a long time after that. But I was in the ambulance,
and I can remember this. When you're in a car accident,
especially a severe one, they will put you on a
backboard in your flight, and it's to stabilize you. They
will also put you in a neck brace to stabilize
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your neck. They had done that with me. I was
strapped down to that board. But while I was in
that ambulance, at some point I rose up and I
watched the paramedics take a curved pair of scissors and
start cutting my shoes and my socks and pants off
of me. And they took my wedding rings off, and
(01:03:32):
I thought, why are they doing that? Everything's okay. And
then I was at the top looking down on myself,
watching these two paramedics just feverishly work on me because
they were trying to save my life. But I was
watching that from above. I was perfectly at peace. I
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had no worries whatsoever. I was even like kind of
curious as to why they were so worried because everything
was just that's the way I felt. I knew myself.
I can say that I didn't see a white light
or any family members at that point. I just don't
think it was my appointed time. We all have an
appointed time, and I don't think that was my time yet.
(01:04:16):
And then the next moment, after watching them for a
little bit, it was like I was slammed back on
that body board and I could feel the ambulance rocking
back and forth and hearing the siren I was. I
had a ten hour emergency surgery. I was at UK
in Lexington for a month. I had three ankle surgeries
(01:04:38):
during that time because it had crushed me from the
waist down multiple breaks in my pelvic My left femur
was crushed, three plates and over thirty screws to fix it.
My other knee was crushed and my ankle was crushed
to cornflakes and they had to take part of the
bone out of my hip to rebuild my ankle and
I did not walk for a year. I was totally
(01:05:01):
completely better, ridden for six months. When I left UK
after a month, it was on a stretcher in an
ambulance to go home because I couldn't move, but eventually
I walked. Well Number one, I lived, and I walked,
and I raised my kids and now I'm out here
(01:05:22):
in the woods.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Chasing the wood booger, you know, and so. And one
of the reasons why I wanted to bring this into
the story, and especially like kind of the highlight of
the story is one of the things you said at
(01:05:52):
one point tonight is I don't believe in coincidence, right,
I don't so for our viewers, what is one of
the things that you feel as significant about that story
in relation to what you're doing now.
Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
I think everything is connected. I feel whether it's paranormal,
the way we live, our lives, what might be in
the shadows, it's all part of us. It's all connected,
in my opinion, now that I've been able to live
(01:06:38):
and do more things with my life and research more
and have a better understanding, and I think I wish
more people were open to understanding what is considered supernatural
and paranormal. And I think it's amping up. I think
(01:06:58):
there's more. I think the veil stinning, I think these
window areas, which I think it'll beil is one of them,
are showing more things. I think more things are happening,
more people are saying things, but I wish more people
were open to understanding that right, supernatural and paranormal.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Absolutely, Wow, I just you know, I feel very honored
tonight to be honest with you, because I'm very humbled,
because I just think you're an amazing person with an
amazing story. Unfortunately, I think that the women do not
(01:07:50):
get as much of acknowledgment as you guys should have. Yeah,
for beose on the ground. You know, Jesse Doyle obviously
is a very outspoken. She's done a lot to bring
the focus on back to the women.
Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Yeah, she gets out there. Now. I wish I could
get back in there like she does. I don't have
the legs for it to get as deep in the woods,
but if I did, I would get out there just
as deep as she gets. But I think I think
it's awesome. I love their investigating And you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Know, the thing of it is, though, Anna is your
contribution is not minor. It's huge, So thank you. What
you do in the context of what you can do,
is very important. So that's one of the reasons why
(01:08:54):
people are drawn to you. One of the many reasons
is because there's you're doing a huge contribution to our
understanding of what's happening, what's going on, what we what
we're talking about without some of you guys there, because
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the female perspective is very important here. For one thing,
you guys are observant as crap, oh my gosh, Like
guys get all carried away with other things sometimes and
get distracted really easily. A woman's focused, She's going to
be like in the moment, no distractions. It's like, you know,
(01:09:39):
I'm a mom, I can do this, I know all
all the tricks, and so I think that's an important
part of it. I think there's an important aspect to
us acknowledging the women who are out there doing this
and really appreciate shating that. Yeah, you know, so you
(01:10:04):
guys are are a huge part of this community and
the importance. You know, are you going to you're keeping
a journal right now? Are you at some point planning
on writing a book?
Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Yeah, right now. I'm actually in the process of writing
a book about the paranormal experiences that happened from the
time I was a little girl. I actually just interviewed
my eighty five year old mother last week so that
I could get more details about what was going on
with her and my biological dad before he passed away,
(01:10:40):
because they were deep into dabbling. I almost say they
even dabbled. They were really into the paranormal and in
my opinion, opening doors that couldn't be shut. Yeah. I
do have a short story on am is on. It's
(01:11:01):
called The Promise and it's my name of A. J. Kwood,
And that story is about ninety eight percent true. There's
very few details in that that I changed, and one
of them was.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
How does the night progress?
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
The signal is getting a little weaker there, but we
expect that. Yeah, guys, notice how dark it has gotten
behind her. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
And my back is facing the supposed that's the crusite
back there, and it's so dark. I mean, look at
my hand just disappears in the darkness.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
That's its creepy mm hmm. So, as we're actually a
little bit past the hour mark here, I want to
and I could go on for hours with you. This
is just like the insight that I'm getting tonight is
(01:12:19):
overwhelming almost. It's great. Give us some final words here,
some food for thought on your experiences at this point
in life.
Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Right now, I feel like more things are happening. We're
getting more uh, stuff is coming out, stuff is showing
itself more. I think it wants to be known. But
I do think people should be careful when they're out
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here with it. Be no matter where you're investigating, be
careful because there's also the human element that could be
back in here as well as the paranormal. But being
out here and searching is searching for truth. And Martin
Uneley always talks about we're searching for the truth to
share it because so many people are kind of not
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willing to understand what is going on in our world.
And I think with more evidence that comes forth is great.
But now we have to deal with AI that is
muddying the waters. So that's a tough one. It seems
like just when we're reaching that recipiece of things coming out,
(01:13:48):
now we've got AI that likes to intimitate, imitate. But
that's what the other side likes to do. It likes
to imitate and confuse.
Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It definitely does. It definitely does. All right, If I
could get you to hold on just a moment after
I close this out, I'd appreciate it because I want
to touch base with you before before we call it
a night. I'm going to go in and wrap us
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up so so we can eventually get you guys where
you want to be for the night, because I know
y'all got plans for stuff. You just you don't go
to the LBL and just hang out online on us.
Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
I know we're going to be investigating definitely.
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All right, I'll be right back with you in just
a moment then, all right, thank you so much, Thank
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Yes?
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And am Mike Kay, how are you doing tonight? Dude?
I gotta get you on here soon too. Okay, without
further ado, I'm going to introduce you guys to an
amazing Amazings and guest. You don't know how I've been
waiting all week for this. She is a boots on
(05:23):
the ground researcher in some of the most notorious places
in the area. And she's an amazing person, just a
very very sweet soul. It's amazing to see somebody like
this who's willing to go out in the snakes and
(05:46):
other things to be able to hunt for the answers.
And I am talking about no one other than the
one and the only Anna, okay with Jones. Hey, Hi,
did I just butcher your middle name?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
You didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Okay, I'll practice that all the time because there's a
tendency for me to want to say say it wrong
for some reason. I want to add letters. I want
to add letters. Okay. So Anna, as if you need
any introduction, I tell people about who you are, what
(06:30):
you're doing, and we'll get into the where you are
in a bit and then and then tell us a
little bit about your YouTube channels as well.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Okay. My name is Anna, and I have had paranormal
experiences from a very young age. I was really young,
like two three years old when paranormal experiences started happening
to me, and I grew up as a kid in
the seventies and a teen in the eighties. During that time,
(07:04):
there wasn't the TV shows that are shown now, and
you were told to keep your mouth shut. People didn't
believe you, you were crazy. You know, you didn't talk
about the paranormal stuff during those times. It wasn't until,
like I'm going to say, the early two thousands, more
people started talking about this, and then more shows started
(07:25):
coming out, And all this time I was searching for
answers for what was happening to me. And I'm also
a Christian, and I didn't understand some of the stuff
that was going on. So it was it's been a
lifelong search for me to understand the things that were
happening to me personally in our home and with my family.
(07:47):
And I think at this point in the journey in
my life, I have figured out I'm hearing noises over
here to my left, So I have figured out some
of those things. And I haven't had a whole lot
of the cryptid experiences until twenty twenty two. But in
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my opinion, I think it's all all the same thing.
It's all connected. And we just had patrol go by,
and that happens here all the time. So if they
turn around and come back, they might have to go
to the hotel, just let you know. But that happens
(08:31):
a lot here. Out of the blue. You're in the
middle of nowhere, they show up.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Wow, So tell us where you're at right now.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Right now behind me is the gate that leads down
to the alleged nineteen eighty two massacre site of the
dog Man that so many people talk about. These are
the gates. Usually they're locked. Don't have a lock on them.
Now in front of me, there is a cemetery and
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it's about eighth of them mile, i'd say, back and between.
I'm going to say it was in twenty three a
huge tree fell on the trail back here, so you
have to go up over this huge tree to get
back in there. But that's where what some people call
the bunkers. I've been back in there multiple times. So
(09:25):
we're out here in the LBL and it's going to
be getting dark setting, and we just had forest rangers
go by. So and I've already heard something over here
to my left, but I have walked this trail multiple
times back there to the bunkers.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Wow. Before we get too much farther, let's promote those
YouTube channels as well.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Okay, Well, if you like gardening. You can follow my
jonestead Farm YouTube channel. I do a lot of my
own gardening, canning, raising as much food for ourselves as
we can. And my other one, because I wanted to
keep them separate, is Crypto Kentucky and that's where I
do a lot of the investigations or places that I visit,
(10:16):
any evidence that I find, I try to make videos.
Keep in mind that out at my home, we live
out in the country and we don't have internet out there,
so everything that I do, all the editing that I
do is through my phone, so it's not Grade A,
but it gets you get to see some of the
things that are going on and where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Wow, I'm you know, I got to tell you, I'm
low key Jella's the fact that you live out there
in that area minus the snakes.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, I know. We walked back through here a little
bit earlier because I wanted to see how well the
reception was and I was watching for the snakes.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, give me bigfoot any day or a snake. So
let me ask you this, what really like? How did
you get started with being like a boots on the
ground and like researcher.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I had always wanted to do paranormal research. That was
where it started for me. But because I feel like
I am an EmPATH, I always held back from joining
a paranormal group because I was always afraid that I
would get attachments and I would bring stuff home with me.
So it always held me off because I was scared
(11:46):
of that. I'd had so many paranormal experiences in my
past and I had been able to get things, you know,
pretty calm, and I thought, what if I join a group,
get out there, and I just start bringing things home
with me. How am I going to reac to that?
Is that the right thing for me to do? You know?
So I kind of just did my own thing by
(12:06):
myself for a while. But in twenty twenty two, a
friend of mine, we'd come down here to the LBL
to camp and it was August of twenty twenty two,
and that was the same weekend as the dog Man
Conference in Paris, Tennessee, which is at the other end
of LBL because it runs through Kentucky down into Tennessee.
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And my friend Martin Nuneley was going to be there.
And I've known him for quite a while and he
hardly ever would do conferences or anything like that, and
I was like, Oh, he's finally doing a conference, so
I'll get to go see him. And it wasn't too
far away from me and Lo and Behold. It was
(12:50):
a crazy weekend as far as what we were hearing,
what we were seeing, the evidence that we got. It
was a very crazy weekend. We camp at Boswell Landing
and it is a primitive camping area. You have a
gravel pad, you have a fire ring, and you have
a picnic table. That's it. There's no electric there's no
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lights out there, there's nothing like that. So you need
to bring everything you need with you. So it was
very primitive. And my friend she had all of the
camping gear, so excuse me. She pitched a tent and
I stayed in the back of the jeep kind of
car camping and we didn't expect anything. You know, she'd
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been camping a lot. We get down there and it
was a crazy weekend. Things happened down there in Boswell.
We were terrified. I can tell you that we were
absolutely terrified for two nights. We stayed there Friday night
and we stayed Saturday night. We didn't sleep hardly at all.
We were seeing orbs, different colored orbs. I saw what
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I can only explain is the silhouette of a bigfoot.
It was in the shape of a bigfoot, but it
was totally black. And when it gets night out here
in LBL, it is so dark, it is so dark.
But that thing showed up darker than the darkness. And
I was sitting on a picnic table and it was
(14:24):
in front of me, facing me, and I was seeing it.
And because of the paranormal experiences that I had had
in the past, I wasn't seeing far, I wasn't seeing eyes,
but I was seeing that coned head, the large shoulders,
long arms, and then about below the waist, it just
(14:45):
kind of faded into the darkness, and I thought that
was odd, but that's what I was seeing. So I thought,
if I give it attention, it's going to give it strength.
That's how I have always felt about the paranormal. It
will feed on you. I said, so I'm not going
to pay attention to it. And then I started doubting
myself because it didn't move. But when my friend walked
(15:09):
from the cemetery, she had a headlamp on and she
started coming across that road to our campsite. This thing
turned its head towards her and it looked like it
was taking a step towards her. And when it moved
like that about had a heart attack. And then her
headlamp swept around where that thing was standing. There was
(15:31):
nothing there.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Wow. Yeah, So yeah, that's kind of you know, people
talk about these things all the time, and yeah, the
way they just kind of like come in and go out,
and some of the other paranormal behavior that they have.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
Yes, because we were saying orbs before that happened, the
red ones in the cemetery and then white ones in
the woods. Because Boswell Landing is out in the middle
of nowhere, but it has a lot of Civil War
history right around it. Yeah, there's a fort, a Civil
War fort. There's a Civil War graveyard just you know,
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up the road from it. So there's a lot of history. There,
a lot of bloodshed down there. And it also has
the dog Man Trail that is in Martin Grove's second book.
I believe it's his second one, the dog Man Trail.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think you're right. Yeah, I've read a lot of books,
so it's hard for me to remember which one.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Oh my goodness, And you may hear traffic because this
trail is close to the Trace, and the Trace is
the one road, two lane road that runs forty miles
through the LBL and that's the only way you get
on these little roads in here, and it's called the Trace.
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So you may hear some traffic because it's not that
far away from the two lane road back here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, so you're talking about the trace in not that Okay.
I was like, okay, wait a minute, is not just
trace go through there? But no, it's not that. It's
a different trace. Yeah, Okay, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
The main road that goes down through l BEL.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Right now that you said that, I know what you're
talking about. But I'm here in this in where I
live at Murphy's Borough. If somebody says the Trace, they're
talking about not just trace because it's not that far away.
So I always like, the first time I heard you
guys talking about the Trace, I was like, not the
(17:51):
Trace that I know, right.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Yeah, it's just the main two lane road that runs
through the middle of the peninsula that's between Lake Barkley
in Lake in Kentucky. Lake just a two lane road.
It didn't even have any emergency lanes in it. Just
a two lane and it gets kind of windy in areas,
but it runs the length of the peninsula down here.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh wow, Now you have a special connection to the
story of the nineteen eighty alleged story of the nineteen
eighty two massacre. Yeah, tell us a little bit about that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I was friends with Jan Thompson. We met online back
in the early two thousands. She had her story originally
on a website called guardian Tells, and that is where
I read her story originally, and we got in touch
with each other, and it wasn't too long after that
(18:56):
she was in touch with Bart and her story that
she told, the retelling of what the officers told her
that night, is in Bart's first book called Mysterious Kentucky.
It's also on his Inhumanoids channel, and he reads that
story on his in Humanoids channel by Jan, because he
knew Jan pretty well too. I was actually supposed to
(19:18):
meet up with Jan in October of two thousand and
seven to come down here, and she was going to
take me around to all the places down through here,
and I had to cancel that because my husband's sister
passed away that week and I never did, like get
back with Jan to do that trip again, and I
so regret it. I so regret not doing that with her.
(19:41):
But we had many, many talks. She was one of
the people that helped me understand the paranormal that was
going on with me. Also, Bart, He's he always through
the years, any questions I ever had, he was always
a mentor to me as well as Jan. Jan was
a member of a Pair of Normal group and she
did a lot of paranormal investigations in the LBL area
(20:06):
and the Hopkinsville area and Grand Rivers. So she had
a website. If you go to the Internet archives, you
can find her website. I can't think of the name
of it right now, but I can send it to
you later. And it has a lot of her investigations
on there, pictures that she had taken from her paranormal investigations. Yeah,
(20:33):
it's Friday Night on the Trace I but yeah, she
did a lot of that. And so she had a
lot of her own experiences with the paranormal as well
as things happening inside of LBL. So do I believe her, Yeah,
I believe what happened. You know, this was not her experience.
(20:56):
She was retelling what was told to her, and she
always said that she could not one hundred percent verify this,
but she believed the officers that had come in that
night to the store and told her what had gone on.
And there's just too many because I don't believe in coincidences.
There's just too many things that can line up. And
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I think it was hidden. That's why you can't find
like go in and try to find like police reports
and stuff like that. Jan even told me that the
bunkers that are down here could possibly have been used
to hunt that thing after it had killed the family.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh wow, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Now one of those down there, to me looks like
it's a water cistern. I've seen a lot of cisterns
before in my life, and one of them down there
kind of looks like a cistern to me. The other one,
I don't know what it is. The entrance is facing
the hill. Why would you put an entrance facing a
(22:05):
tall hill? I don't get that. I wish I could
walk you guys down there and show you, but I
don't think. The reception gets worse the further back you get,
and there's other buildings back in here. You can see
there's a just a staircase, just a staircase just sitting
in the middle of the woods back here, and there's
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other concrete block where you can see that something was
back in here. So it's a really interesting place.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I know that Jesse and Joel Doyle has given us
some video of the location before and the investigations, and
is shown like the concrete paths and parts of pavement
as just stuff that doesn't I mean, you just don't
(23:01):
come out in the wild. Yeah, So they've definitely they've
proven time and time again, not only not only hel Holler,
but some other research groups have shown video. I think
it hasn't hasn't Barton also shown the video before of
(23:24):
some of the stuff out that way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
there's many.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Way if you've ever been a camper before or had
a travel camper. There are a couple of roundabouts back
in here, like for campground. Do I know for sure
that there was a campground back here, I'm not certain,
but there are roundabouts two back here.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Wow, Dizzy, welcome to the channel. I noted. I know
you were going to jump in at some point, so
I'm glad you're here. So here's here's one of the
things I want to camp on for a second about this, Like,
so many people were saying that because of the style
(24:19):
that this the reaccount was given it and so forth,
that they felt like it was it was possibly not
completely accurate or maybe embellished or whatever. But you said
that she had been a paranormal investigator, probably had written
(24:39):
reports in the past. Yeah, so she was used to
communicating online, yes, and so forth with people. So maybe
that was part of the reason why this style was
kind of writer type.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, it could have been. Yeah, I mean she was
good at communicating. I mean she was like that when
we would email a text back and forth. She wrote
that one I still have some of her email messages
to me that I said, And she was just a
very poetic, detail oriented writer, even in just a simple email.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wow. I see. This is one of the reasons why
it's really important for us to look at all of
the evidence. Yeah, all of that means even the mundane stuff. Yeah,
how was this person? You know, what type of person?
How do you do they have? How how was there
(25:42):
you know, what was their skill sets? All kinds of things,
Because time and time again, her retelling of the story
has been attacked over and over again. Yeah, because it's
the only thing, the only tangible thing that we have
have it is. Yeah, and even I'm going to say this, guys,
(26:07):
because we all know this. It's even been refuted by
someone who claimed to be there that night. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Yeah, And he has his right to his opinion, you know,
and all of this carrying on that happens with the
paranormal it's you know, has a right to tell his
version of what he feels like happened or could have
happened to him.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Right, right, again. What I'll say about that is, I
think it's important that we all do the research and
come up with our own opinion on which version is right,
which one is wrong, that kind of thing, because I
(26:57):
know there are people that will will flat out say
I don't believe this.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Yeah, it's I think it's one Gabby and Elijah's channel,
Cryptid Studies Institute. I think they did like a very
detailed look at this trail down here, and I think
they've even got maps that they did if I'm remembering correctly,
(27:23):
about how this could have been set up as a
camping area. Now, if it's a camping area back in here,
it was a smaller one, but the road does go
on down through here to the lake to Lake Barkley,
but it's very overgrown now. But they did a very
good study of this area, if anybody wants to look
(27:45):
at that. And they did have comments left in there
about people that were going to high school at the
time and heard that story while they were going to
high school.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's one of the things that's really important to take
note of too, is it was high schools in Kentucky.
I believe that that I read about that we're the
kids were talking about this, Yeah, and in the halls,
you know, during before class and so forth. So I
think that's a very important thing that I mean, granted,
(28:21):
you know, high school, we talked about a lot of
weird stuff that may or may not have happened. The
fact that this story was being spoken of publicly at
that time period, yeah, kind of lends a little bit
of an eyebrow raise at least.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, Now, I'm not going to sit there and tell
you guys, this is this is whine percent what happened.
I know four five I don't know for a.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Fact, Yeah, And I don't know for a fact, right.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
But we do know that there is evidence two back
up the claim. Yeah, yeah, take it for what it's worth.
You do the research, and uh so, let's talk for
(29:21):
a little bit about let's let's bring it back to
present day a little bit. What are some of the
things that you have personally experienced at the LBL, like
even recently, that you can talk about that gives credence
to some of the legends.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, I know, Small Town Monsters was out here and
they interviewed Gabby. I'm hearing stuff behind me. Yeah, I'm
starting to get dark and I'm hearing stuff back here.
Could be just animals, but Gabby was interview about seeing
the dog man run across the road in front of
(30:06):
her one night in May of twenty three. I was
actually in a car in front of them, so it
kind of ran between us. Now, there was a ten
minute span of time between that and this was in
maya twenty three, so it's two years ago that that happened.
(30:26):
And we had a crazy experience ourself that night. I
can't explain to you how weird that night was in
the LBL. I have a short interview in Greg Ogle's
film The Land between the Lakes Cryptic Expeditions, and that
(30:47):
was just a very small taste of what happened to
us that night when we went out to investigate. When
we've left the campsite that night, it's probably around eleven PM,
and we headed out. I was in a car with
Letitia and Michelle, and then war was in his truck
(31:10):
with Gabby and Elijah, and they were behind us, and
it was just our two cars. We went out to
do some investigating. And as we're going down the trace,
which is the middle of the peninsula here, we've looked
up and the moon was bright orange, almost red. It
was illuminating the clouds around it, and we gasped. We
(31:34):
all gasped at the color of this moon. It was
just neon. It was beautiful. And I even took some
pictures with my cell phone and it just doesn't do
it justice. It just doesn't pick up the moon very
well with a cell phone camera. So we head on
down the trace. The amount of deer that was out
along the trace that night was insane. I live in
(31:57):
the country, I grew up in the country. I'm used
to seeing deer on the side of the road. The
amount of deer out that night was unbelievable. We saw hundreds.
I'm not kidding you hundreds of deer that night, and
we did go all the way down to Boswell Landing,
So being able to see that many deer at once
is because we drove all the way down to Boswell
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and it's about a forty five minute drive from the
beginning of the trace at Grand Rivers. So we were
seeing all these deer. We saw bats, We saw an owl.
I think we saw like two owls. We saw armadillos
because there's armadillo's down here, and why were all these
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animals coming out? There was a beaver in the road.
We had to swerve to miss a beaver, and then
more and one behind us. They stopped their truck and
Elijah got out and filmed it. It was just sitting
in the middle of the road, the amount of animals
we saw that night. But it felt like they were
being flushed out of the woods. It was like everything
was being pushed out of those woods. So we went
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to Boswell. We got out there and we investigated a
little bit down there. I was taking pictures. None of
them would turn out. It was like a white cloud.
Every single picture I took down there in Boswell. Can't
explain it, don't know why did it. No, my finger
wasn't over the lands, but yeah, I kept taking pictures
and showing leticians. She's like, why are your pictures not
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showing up? And she took a couple. We just mine
wouldn't show up that night. It was like something did
not want anything to be shown. So we investigated down
there a little bit and we left war and Elijah
and Gabby they went into Dover, which was the opposite direction,
to get gas and get a drink, and we went
back up the trace towards the north end where we
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were camping, and on our way back, we saw something
on the side of the road beside a guardrail that
had red eyes, laser red eyes, and it was like
it was looking right at us, like it wanted us
to see it, like it was trying to make a
connection with us. That's the way it seemed. And these
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eyes were really, honestly, like two lasers. And then suddenly
this thing unfurled wings and they looked exactly like bat wings.
Did not have any feathers on it at all. It
looked like bat wings, and it twisted. It did not
flap its wings at all. It just twisted and it
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was gone, and we were like what did we just see?
What was that? So we were trying to figure out
are there any bats in the LBO that would look
like that? But we couldn't find anything online. We got
back to camp and we were telling our friends that
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were that had stayed at camp up what we had seen.
And I know Christa from Blondes and Boo, she was
trying to look up animals, you know, in the LBEL
or legends of certain things because and Letitia dubbed it
the mini moth man because it's kind of what it
looked like with those red eyes. It was just small.
The wingspan was about three feet and it wasn't real tall,
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like what you would think mini mothman. And we were
telling them about the moon. Everybody back at camp. We
were telling them what the moon looked like, and they said,
what are y'all talking about? It's just a white moon,
just a regular white moon. Everybody back at camp just
saw a regular white moon. But us in the cars
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that were driving down the trace, it was bright orange,
almost red. And then a few minutes later they pulled
up and Gabby gets out, she says, we just saw
the dog man. What is going on tonight? It was
the one of the craziest nights. It was honestly like
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we had driven into or slipped into another veil or something.
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
It would be interesting if you guys would keep Do
you keep a journal of these things?
Speaker 4 (36:23):
I do, so.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Send me the date that that happened if you can, Yeah, day,
date and year. Okay, it would be very interesting to see.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
It was a full moon weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Right, all right, and that's that's one of the things
that it would be very interesting to see what's going
on astrologically and so forth at that point.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Yeah, that would be interesting. The night that I saw
that outline of what I can only say is like
foot It was a full moon that weekend, and we
were also having a meteor shower that night. It was
the August meteor shower.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Now My most recent I found a print at Boswell
Landing in October of twenty four. We went down there
for a group camp and it's beautiful at Boswell, but
it's very scary at night. But I was curious because
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of what I had experienced there before, and went walking
because there was a cemetery. I think it's the Campbell Cemetery.
I think is it Campbell Cemetery. Yeah, I think it's
Campbell Cemetery that's up there. It's a small one. And
I was walking with a friend and we saw this stuff.
She saw it first, all twisted around this tree was
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different kinds of branches from different types of trees, and
it was twisted around a small tree. So we stopped
to look at that, and I thought, yeah, So I
started looking for prince and I found one and I
got a picture of it, and then Letitia found another
one that was a little further back down in it
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like a gully. I have a video of that on
my crypt at Kentucky Channel, And that's my most recent
finding here in LBL And also that same camp out
in October, because there was a large group of us there.
We were around the fire by the bay, and I
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can only say that what we heard was not a wolf,
but it was canine. It was so loud. The lung
capacity that chess capacity this thing had to have. And
I've heard it before in here, two other times I've
heard this, but you know, it's not your typical sized wolf.
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This thing has got to have a large lung capacity
to be able to howl the way this thing heled.
Have you ever heard a wolf howl, even on TV
or whatever. This sounds different. It's powerful. And we heard
that that night, had a couple of people sit beside me.
That thing sounded off. They jumped up. And it usually
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follows with coyote's howling after that, very very often it'll
right before or inside the coyote howling. So whenever we're
out investigating and we start hearing the coyotes, we stopped
to listen because that happens so often. I don't know
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if they're trying to call with them or disguise, because
they can't really disguise the way that sounds. But when
a coyotes start, we start listening ourselves. It always correlates.
For some reason, it correlates.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
So that's something that I have not heard people talk
about now. Very interesting. One of the things though, that
that's really important to note here is that the description
you just gave about the sound itself like that was
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a pretty graphic description. And if you go back and
you reference Martin Groves, Darrington and a lot of the
people who who we all are familiar with and some
of their descriptions, you'll notice that people are giving the
same sorts of detail in their own words.
Speaker 5 (41:03):
Yeah, Margins in October, we were down there.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, it's very important to understand that. Like, just like
when people give reaccounts of something and they never veer
from the structure of the story, it's the same way
with multiple accounts of things. When you hear the same
thing over and over and over from multiple people, there's
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a good chance that one of two things are happening
mass hysteria or they're reaccounting a truthful experience. Okay, it's
getting dark quick there.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
And see it getting dark back here? Yeah you can
still you can feel it getting dark or I can't.
Right now, I feel it.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Like the sun was out a min ago and boom,
you can tell already, Like how quick it's that's just
creepy itself.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
And here I am out in it.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's what I'm saying. I don't understand how like everything
that I know about that place, Like I don't mind
remote viewing that area, but personally, I don't know that
I could go any farther in than the entrance way
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to that area.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I can tell you that me feeling like I'm an
EmPATH when I'm in here, it feels very sad, and
when you look at its history where over eight hundred
people lived in here, had homes, they had businesses, they
had schools. The farming in here, the farms or ancestral homes,
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I mean generations, and it was all taken from them.
It was all taken. I mean, I've heard horror stories
about how these people were removed from their homes and
their livelihoods here and the place feels sad to me.
It feels sad and sometimes angry. It was angry in here.
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There's over two hundred and seventy cemeteries in here along
the forty miles of the trace, two hundred and seventy.
And I don't think that they got everybody when they flooded,
because they're in Birmingham. During the winter when the water
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pool is lower, you can see tombstones coming up. And
they promised the families that everybody would be relocated so
they could still come visit their families. And they didn't do.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
That, No, they did not.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
One of the photos that I've seen of the what
you're talking about, the graves that are underwater most of
the time, I remember looking at one of them, the
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one that everybody you see us, like the first thing
when you do a Google search on the l B
L and a very clear voice I heard crying.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
So I'm particularly a little bit on the defensive about
what the government did to those people in that area.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
It is, it is. I mean, they took they had
these people go to a meeting, a meeting, and while
they were there, some of them were getting their houses
bulldozed and burned. And so so let's talk about southern
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hospitality for a minute, you know, with the people that
were there. So, yes, there's a lot of sadness there.
There's a lot of.
Speaker 5 (45:29):
The forest rangers are stopping them, backing up.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, I might tell it to they may. Yeah, it's happening.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
Yeah, silver old silver FOI I don't think I've seen
a silver pick up. We saw like a little red
cor go down this way. Okay, yeah, okay, now we're
(46:05):
looking for oh my gosh, it's a silver pickup truck.
You said you should be driving. Okay, so do we
can't do? We need like your number something.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Y'all here, I don't think you come down okay, right here,
it's it's called for serrug Okay, y'all filming a video
or something.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Yeah, we're just doing a video. What kind of podcast? Yeah,
you want to come? Say hot? What is called the
magical Journey? All kinds of different things in life, yes, adventures,
all kinds of things that goes on in take care
(46:54):
of thank you. So they're looking for a lady in
a silver truck. They said she should not be driving
and she's missing. And that's what he stopped to ask me.
So they're out here looking for a missing person that
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could be driving a silver pickup truck and we're to
call nine one one if we see her. That's what
he just said. I don't know if you were able
to hear him, but that's what he just told us.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Wow. Yeah, And see, this is one of the things
that's very interesting too, is like people get drawn into
this area. It's like one of the things that has
been told to me more than once, not necessarily by
(47:47):
by physical entities before, but is that people get drawn
into this area.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Yeah, we have no clothes right off the trail right
over here, Yeah, sitting there.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, and it's it's so I mean when people say
the lb A is no joke, Well, what they're kind
of talking about limit what.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
Just happened, missing person, right.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Right, So you sent some photos. I'm going to try
to do this. This is kind of a first for me,
so I'm trying to to uh play play advocate here
and see about some of these Let's see, I'm gonna
(48:40):
pull up because you sent some photos of h First
of all, some prints that you found seem okay, so
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what are we looking at here?
Speaker 5 (49:10):
Okay? That was the print that I found in October
of twenty four down at Boswell Landing. And if you
look up towards the top of that where my foot
is sitting, you can see the impression of toes. It
was very deep and it was as big, not a
little longer than my foot. But you can see the
impression of toes up there at the top. It was
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really deep.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Wow, and that's a that's a wide Oh my gosh. Yeah,
that's really wide and long.
Speaker 5 (49:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Interesting. Yeah, and it's very possible that. Yeah, I kind
of feel like maybe that was you know, that's interesting one.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
H I'd see you see how dark it is behind.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
Me, right, and it's just going to get more. So okay,
so this kier. What are we looking at here? Now?
Speaker 5 (50:27):
This is not in the LBL. This is a different
area that me and my daughter and my husband we
like to go to investigate. It's in central Kentucky, New Watsburg, Kentucky,
and Anderson County, and it's a wildlife area. It's very
well known for bigfoot sightings through the years, and I
(50:48):
believe Small Town Monsters has done a documentary or two
on this particular area for the bigfoot sightings. So this
is close to us and very close to where my
husband grew up by the Kentucky River. So we go
down here to investigate. We have gotten some really good
pictures and stuff from down in here, but that you know,
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can I know for sure what that is? No, but
it looked like a little glowing green figure in the
distance standing in the tree line.
Speaker 1 (51:23):
Wait a minute, glowing green.
Speaker 5 (51:26):
It's right there in the middle, right right above. It
kind of to me looks like it has like a
little bit of a green glow to it, and it
kind of looks like a person standing there. Oh, it's
right above where I put a figure right right.
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Oh wow, I don't know if you guys can tell that.
I wish there was some way to be able to
blow this up a little better.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
Just kind of stood out, Timmy, So.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
You guys can actually see it. Yeah, it's very interesting
that this thing is growing, glowing green. That's in itself.
It's kind of an interesting experience. Wow, I'm telling you guys,
some of the things that these folks are catching on
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film is I mean, how can you? I'm sorry, I
don't know.
Speaker 5 (52:28):
What it is, but it just stood out to me
when I was going back through my pictures and I
was like, that's a little odd looking right there. I
think I'll mark.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
That one, I mean a little bit. Yeah, So and
then we have.
Speaker 5 (52:45):
Yeah, my daughter took that picture and if you look
in the middle of those trees, you will see a figure.
Speaker 1 (52:53):
It's that is clear. That is super clear.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
Yes, there's She did nothing to that picture. That's what
that looked like that night. And we went back during
the day and I just I didn't have those pictures
on my phone to send you. But we went back
there during the day and my daughter walked down there
to the tree that's the farthest to the right in
that picture that's kind of leaning, and she was teeny
(53:20):
tiny up next to that tree. That thing had to
have been over twelve feet tall. Whatever it is, but yeah,
you can see I can see legs on that. It
looks like its arms are outstretched.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
It was.
Speaker 5 (53:37):
It was huge, whatever that was, and she caught it.
I had taken a picture two minutes I think it
was after. It was either two minutes before she took
this picture or two minutes after, because we looked at
the time stamps on it. My pictures were clear there
wasn't anything in it. Two minutes later she took that
picture and that's what she caught. We didn't see it
(53:58):
with our own eyes while we were taking the picuretures,
but I can tell you that we had left a
particular area and we were driving down the road. We
heard coyotes, so we stopped and started taking pictures, and
that was what came out in the pictures. And then
in one of mine, I had a lot of light
anomalies that showed up and we stopped because we heard
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the coyotes.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Wow, I mean, these are not your typical pictures.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
I know that.
Speaker 5 (54:35):
That one blew my mind. When my daughter showed me
that one, she's like, Mom, what is this? I was like,
I don't know what that is, but it's there. It
showed itself and that's the light anomalies. If you can see,
there's about four of them, and that's where the river is.
It's a it's a little river with a tree line
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right on the banks. And I see four light anomalies
in that picture.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Mm hmm. Yeah, I'm seeing them too, and I.
Speaker 5 (55:06):
See them every time I go down there, right.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Obviously Justin White saw them too, really, So that is
one of the things that's very interesting is like there's
I've talked to people before who've all agreed that, like Ohio, Kentucky,
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West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, high strangeness all through these areas
a lot of similar things being reported.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah, maybe, yeah, it could be that our family has
been tagged lot.
Speaker 5 (55:55):
You know, I am RH negative bloodline. I have wondered
about that myself.
Speaker 1 (56:02):
So why did I know you were going to say that?
So there is one that's rather interesting too. What is this?
Speaker 5 (56:16):
This is just behind me. I don't know what it is.
I guess you could call it a glyph, That's how
I refer to it. But because the way I walk
where I was injured in a head on collision years ago,
I look down at the ground every step I take,
just because I don't have full mobility in my knees
(56:38):
in my right ankle. So I look at the ground
and this was setting off to the side as we
were walking down to the bunkers, and I was like,
what is that? And it was just sitting there. And
this was in an area that was off the path,
a little bit off the main path to the bunkers
back here, so it wasn't like it was right out
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where so many people walk to go straight down to
the bunkers. This was awful little bit. You had to
go a different direction to find that. And when I
saw it, I was like, I'm just going to get
a picture of that. I did try to go back
and find that earlier, but they've had so much rain
down here, like the flooding that we just recently had.
(57:20):
They had sixteen inches of rain down here in LBL,
So you can tell that the water has washed down
through here, and it probably washed it away because I
couldn't find it anymore.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 5 (57:38):
I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
It looks familiar for some reason. That's why I keep
looking at it. I'm like, what, I know, there's something
about that. Sooner or later, I'll think of it, but
it does look very familiar. Once I want to see
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where is.
Speaker 5 (58:08):
Okay, No, yeah, that one I wish i'd sent you
one that was that you could blow up that I
had more blown up than that, because if you we
had a friend with us that night and he kept saying,
(58:30):
I'm seeing a black figure over there in the tree
line moving. So when he said that, I just went
over there and started taking pictures and you can see
a shadow figure standing there, and over to the right
you can see a face speaking from behind those branches. Now,
(58:53):
if you go to my Cryptic Kentucky channel, I do
have a short about that, and I think it's titled well,
I can't remember how I titled that one, but it's
a short. But I also have a video on that
as well to where you can see it blown up
and you see it right there a face along with
that shadow figure side by side. So he was seeing
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something and that's I think what it was. And that
is in the Anderson County area. That's not Ilbil, that's
the Anderson County spot.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah. Now, one of the photos that you said I'm
extremely curious about because I didn't get a chance to
really thoroughly look at the emails, but this one, I'm
(59:47):
sure there's a story behind this.
Speaker 5 (59:55):
Oh yeah, that is my car from nineteen ninety five
and my family. I was in the passenger seat, I
was not buckled. My husband was driving. Both of my
daughters were in the back. We had been down to
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Harrington Lake and was looking at lake lots because at
that time our dream was to build a little log
cabin on the lake, and so we went down to
be sure that the lot we had picked out was
exactly what we wanted. And on the way home, someone
completely came over the yellow line and hit us head
(01:00:37):
on doing sixty. They never hit their brakes. There were
no emergency lanes, and there were cars behind the person
that was driving, so we had nowhere to go, and
she slammed into us, and my oldest daughter was six
years old at the time. Immediately after that happened, I
(01:01:01):
was awake. I remember burned, the smell of burning rubber
and it freeze. The car was popping, and I can
remember hearing my kids cry, and I knew they were
alive because I could hear him crying. My husband reached
(01:01:21):
over and tried to get my seat back and the
dash had come in so far that he could the
dash came in so far that the radio cut his stomach,
and the steering whettle bent where he was holding onto it.
When the paramedics got to us, they told my husband
I had three minutes to live because I was bleeding out,
(01:01:43):
and they called in a air vak, but they only
had one available at the time, and the person that
hit us, her husband had trying not to be too graphic,
but he had kind of gone through up into the
windshield and he had a lot of head trauma. So
they chose to take him on the MIDEVAC and I
(01:02:06):
was to go by ambulance, and they had to bring
in the jaws of life cut through the car. They
had to take the jaws of life. They used for
thirty minutes trying to get me out of there. Then
they took a log in chain, hid it around the
dash and pulled the car up off of meat to
get me out. And when they pulled me out, my daughter,
(01:02:29):
who was six years old, she witnessed this and later
on she would tell me, Mom, when they took you
out of the car, you were all bloody and your
legs were going the wrong way. And she was so
terrified by that sight she refused to come to the
hospital to see me because she thought that's what she
was going to see again. And she had nightmares for
(01:02:49):
a long time after that. But I was in the ambulance,
and I can remember this. When you're in a car accident,
especially a severe one, they will put you on a
backboard in your flight, and it's to stabilize you. They
will also put you in a neck brace to stabilize
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your neck. They had done that with me. I was
strapped down to that board. But while I was in
that ambulance, at some point I rose up and I
watched the paramedics take a curved pair of scissors and
start cutting my shoes and my socks and pants off
of me. And they took my wedding rings off, and
(01:03:32):
I thought, why are they doing that? Everything's okay. And
then I was at the top looking down on myself,
watching these two paramedics just feverishly work on me because
they were trying to save my life. But I was
watching that from above. I was perfectly at peace. I
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had no worries whatsoever. I was even like kind of
curious as to why they were so worried because everything
was just that's the way I felt. I knew myself.
I can say that I didn't see a white light
or any family members at that point. I just don't
think it was my appointed time. We all have an
appointed time, and I don't think that was my time yet.
(01:04:16):
And then the next moment, after watching them for a
little bit, it was like I was slammed back on
that body board and I could feel the ambulance rocking
back and forth and hearing the siren I was. I
had a ten hour emergency surgery. I was at UK
in Lexington for a month. I had three ankle surgeries
(01:04:38):
during that time because it had crushed me from the
waist down multiple breaks in my pelvic My left femur
was crushed, three plates and over thirty screws to fix it.
My other knee was crushed and my ankle was crushed
to cornflakes and they had to take part of the
bone out of my hip to rebuild my ankle and
I did not walk for a year. I was totally
(01:05:01):
completely better, ridden for six months. When I left UK
after a month, it was on a stretcher in an
ambulance to go home because I couldn't move, but eventually
I walked. Well Number one, I lived, and I walked,
and I raised my kids and now I'm out here
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in the woods.
Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Chasing the wood booger, you know, and so. And one
of the reasons why I wanted to bring this into
the story, and especially like kind of the highlight of
the story is one of the things you said at
(01:05:52):
one point tonight is I don't believe in coincidence, right,
I don't so for our viewers, what is one of
the things that you feel as significant about that story
in relation to what you're doing now.
Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
I think everything is connected. I feel whether it's paranormal,
the way we live, our lives, what might be in
the shadows, it's all part of us. It's all connected,
in my opinion, now that I've been able to live
(01:06:38):
and do more things with my life and research more
and have a better understanding, and I think I wish
more people were open to understanding what is considered supernatural
and paranormal. And I think it's amping up. I think
(01:06:58):
there's more. I think the veil stinning, I think these
window areas, which I think it'll beil is one of them,
are showing more things. I think more things are happening,
more people are saying things, but I wish more people
were open to understanding that right, supernatural and paranormal.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Absolutely, Wow, I just you know, I feel very honored
tonight to be honest with you, because I'm very humbled,
because I just think you're an amazing person with an
amazing story. Unfortunately, I think that the women do not
(01:07:50):
get as much of acknowledgment as you guys should have. Yeah,
for beose on the ground. You know, Jesse Doyle obviously
is a very outspoken. She's done a lot to bring
the focus on back to the women.
Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Yeah, she gets out there. Now. I wish I could
get back in there like she does. I don't have
the legs for it to get as deep in the woods,
but if I did, I would get out there just
as deep as she gets. But I think I think
it's awesome. I love their investigating And you.
Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Know, the thing of it is, though, Anna is your
contribution is not minor. It's huge, So thank you. What
you do in the context of what you can do,
is very important. So that's one of the reasons why
(01:08:54):
people are drawn to you. One of the many reasons
is because there's you're doing a huge contribution to our
understanding of what's happening, what's going on, what we what
we're talking about without some of you guys there, because
(01:09:19):
the female perspective is very important here. For one thing,
you guys are observant as crap, oh my gosh, Like
guys get all carried away with other things sometimes and
get distracted really easily. A woman's focused, She's going to
be like in the moment, no distractions. It's like, you know,
(01:09:39):
I'm a mom, I can do this, I know all
all the tricks, and so I think that's an important
part of it. I think there's an important aspect to
us acknowledging the women who are out there doing this
and really appreciate shating that. Yeah, you know, so you
(01:10:04):
guys are are a huge part of this community and
the importance. You know, are you going to you're keeping
a journal right now? Are you at some point planning
on writing a book?
Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
Yeah, right now. I'm actually in the process of writing
a book about the paranormal experiences that happened from the
time I was a little girl. I actually just interviewed
my eighty five year old mother last week so that
I could get more details about what was going on
with her and my biological dad before he passed away,
(01:10:40):
because they were deep into dabbling. I almost say they
even dabbled. They were really into the paranormal and in
my opinion, opening doors that couldn't be shut. Yeah. I
do have a short story on am is on. It's
(01:11:01):
called The Promise and it's my name of A. J. Kwood,
And that story is about ninety eight percent true. There's
very few details in that that I changed, and one
of them was.
Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
How does the night progress?
Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Is?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
The signal is getting a little weaker there, but we
expect that. Yeah, guys, notice how dark it has gotten
behind her. Yeah, yeah, that's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
And my back is facing the supposed that's the crusite
back there, and it's so dark. I mean, look at
my hand just disappears in the darkness.
Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
That's its creepy mm hmm. So, as we're actually a
little bit past the hour mark here, I want to
and I could go on for hours with you. This
is just like the insight that I'm getting tonight is
(01:12:19):
overwhelming almost. It's great. Give us some final words here,
some food for thought on your experiences at this point
in life.
Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
Right now, I feel like more things are happening. We're
getting more uh, stuff is coming out, stuff is showing
itself more. I think it wants to be known. But
I do think people should be careful when they're out
(01:12:59):
here with it. Be no matter where you're investigating, be
careful because there's also the human element that could be
back in here as well as the paranormal. But being
out here and searching is searching for truth. And Martin
Uneley always talks about we're searching for the truth to
share it because so many people are kind of not
(01:13:26):
willing to understand what is going on in our world.
And I think with more evidence that comes forth is great.
But now we have to deal with AI that is
muddying the waters. So that's a tough one. It seems
like just when we're reaching that recipiece of things coming out,
(01:13:48):
now we've got AI that likes to intimitate, imitate. But
that's what the other side likes to do. It likes
to imitate and confuse.
Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
It definitely does. It definitely does. All right, If I
could get you to hold on just a moment after
I close this out, I'd appreciate it because I want
to touch base with you before before we call it
a night. I'm going to go in and wrap us
(01:14:23):
up so so we can eventually get you guys where
you want to be for the night, because I know
y'all got plans for stuff. You just you don't go
to the LBL and just hang out online on us.
Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
I know we're going to be investigating definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
All right, I'll be right back with you in just
a moment then, all right, thank you so much, Thank
you everyone. I am literally speechless, honestly, Like I gotta
(01:15:02):
tell you, like I've had some really great guests on
who've given some really great stories, some really great information,
but I was not prepared. I really was not prepared
to have just my mind completely blown tonight. I know,
Pam you told me, and I appreciate you, guys. Thank
(01:15:24):
Pam for this interview because she was the one who
strongly suggested to me to get Anna on and I
gotta tell you, just right on, right on the mark.
All right. A couple of things really quickly before I
leave tonight. Number One, you guys go check out Mistic
(01:15:51):
Mountain Creations. There cups. I love mine. I'm absolutely in
love with it, and not only do. They have great product,
but part of the proceeds are going to help with
the rebuilding of homes and lives that were devastated by
(01:16:15):
the storms there in the mountains with Helene. So we're
grateful for that. We're grateful for having Mike and Jenny
as part of our family. Go support them. Also, do
(01:16:36):
not forget I'm going to have some excuse me, I'll
choked up to not I'm going to have some supplementary
material coming up on the Patreon site, so you guys
go check it out. There is a free section, there's
(01:16:59):
a pay section. Pay section is only like it's less
than a couple of Dutch Brothers right now. I spend
seven dollars every time I go to Dutch Brothers just
for a cup of coffee, So this is like five
point fifty. It's one of the best opportunities you have
(01:17:19):
to support, and it's really important for us to be
able to Hey, there's I got one of my first
Twitch viewers.
Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I'm excited about that. I'm mixed. I'm very excited about that.
Check out the check out the replay on this because
there's some really good stuff on this video tonight. But
(01:17:54):
I'm going to thank you guys again for showing up
tonight and definitely definitely humble bus ride always your journey
always be magical.
Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Waited for so long to see when you come back
to me through the walls and battles.
Speaker 6 (01:18:27):
That were lost, We're all again. It's you and me.
The rest is history side.
Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
You danced together, Ganpa fifteen hundreds. How to end?
Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
For we must still be rove, We must have been
suffered in
Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Our past life.
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