June 7, 2025 • 73 mins
Step into the shadows with Lydia Carpenter, a seasoned tour guide in one of the most historically haunted locations in America. In this chilling episode of Magical Journey Podcast: Between Worlds, Lydia takes us behind the velvet ropes and into the whispers of the past—where spirits walk, stories linger, and the line between history and haunting blurs. From ghost sightings and eerie energies to unexplainable encounters that leave guests shaken, Lydia shares the unforgettable experiences that have made her tours legendary. Hear the history, feel the haunt, and discover what it’s really like to guide others through a space that never sleeps. Is it just a job—or a calling?
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Love love mann never any love, oh my mom.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My, mom mo mon my am not.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And hello and welcome to Magical Journey Podcast. Can you
guys hear me? Okay, I'm real paranoid after a couple
of weeks ago with my note, my extra noise started
all of a sudden, and I'm assuming you can because
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nobody's say an ouch, awesome, thank you bam. All right,
So tonight I have a really really great, uh just
unexpected and I think pretty awesome topic for you guys tonight.
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But before we get to that, I want to throw
a couple of things out there to you guys. Magical
Journey dot com is the website to go to for
all things Magical Journey. We will be eventually, I want
to put it out there that we will be changing
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the website. The new website is actually up to give
us some a little bit of time with Google so
Google crawlers can get it going and then we will
have the new website up and it will have much
(03:44):
much better I think, format than the current website. Both
websites are good. I think I did them both. I
kind of like them both. But the new branding, what
is my hat doing tonight? Good? Lord, I'm a messheal.
The new branding is going well. It's going well. When
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you guys get it, let me know when you see
it the change some of your know. Don't spoil it
for the ones that don't anyway. Also, I want to
give a shout out this week. My mind, Jenny's birthday
was this week, So this week, all week long, we
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were doing Genny Week. It is Jenny's Birthday week, so
we're going to make sure that we call that out
and have fun with it. You guys, celebrate her and
celebrate this really great, great addition to our family. Also,
speaking of which, I've got Mike up with me today.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
My tumbling is my favorite thing here and it comes
from Mystical Mountain Creations, which is Jenny and Mike's shop.
Mm hmm. Makes her say that so much better because
that was made with love. All Right, I'm through rambling
right now because I want to bring on my guests
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I'm excited about. I want you guys to get a
chance to get to know her. Ladies and gentlemen tonight
I want to bring to the stage. Are you ready?
Can you guess? Pam knows already? Lydia carpenter. Ay, oh yeah,
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you can hear me, Hey, Lydia, I can hear you perfectly. Hey,
so Lydia, tell tell our folks about a little about you,
what who you are, what you do?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh goodness, Hi, yeah, I'm Lydia.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Uh I am.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm a tour guide for saving the old properties. They
own the Randolph County Asylum in Winchester, Indiana. They own
the Stone Mansion, the Boyhood Church of be friend Jim Jones,
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the old Blackford County Jail.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I'm making those faces. I'm making those faces because oh,
boyfriend's gonna say, who's that?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's fun. That's fun.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Oh wait, you missed my cat Mabel. Oh hey, can
I say happy birthday to jail? Happy birthday, Jenny.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So coincidentally, speaking of I hear you, Katie, speaking of
the church that was Boyhood Jim Jones was was actually
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raised sort of in that church.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That building was featured on the latest episode of The
Dead Chronicles. So you guys go check that out afterwards.
Definitely go check that out afterwards. Uh. I was fortunate
enough to be featured in there as well, talking about
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Jim Jones. But we're going to tonight job, by the way,
thank you, tonight is we're going to do a couple
of things a little differently than we normally do. First
of all, I have never interviewed somebody who does your
job before, and yet it's a job that I personally
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look for people doing. Like if I see a place
that says like it's a self guided tour, I just
check it off the list already, don't even bother going there,
because you guys are what makes the tour, I think.
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So this is a chance for us to get to
know firsthand what that's like. But also the little areas
that you're talking about here, which aren't very little. By
the way, you get an extra bonus of having paranormal
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experiences in these historical buildings. So we want to dive
into that for a few minutes. I want to know
what is First of all, tell me what it's like
to work in these buildings.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Wow, it's it's fun. It's exciting, not creepy at all.
But also in order to work, work work, because it's
not work, it's fun. I have fun when I'm doing it.
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Being there is an experience all in itself. So it
you have to be there in order to understand what.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm saying, right, right, So, how how did you get?
Like did you just wake up one day and say,
you know, I think I want to be a tour
guide for a haunted place.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
No, actually, I was working a secondary job. Well, first,
let me preface this by saying that I drove by
the Randolph County Asylum every single day for years when
it was closed, seriously, like when it was closed before
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Saving Deal Properties purchased it. I'd always see a light
on in the building and nobody was there. We closed
our doors in mid two thousand and six, early two
thousand and seven, and there was a light on in
the building. Okay, For some reason, I keep thinking there's
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a light over in the Midstein Place. Sorry Rocky Horror
Picture show anyway, but I'd always see a light on,
and something always drew me to that place, if that
makes sense. But I was working at a gas station
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across the street from the factory that is my primary job,
and the business manager wearing a shirt and she was
like buying her cigarettes and I was asking about the
shirt and asking how much tours were and things like that,
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and she said, well, you've got a great personality. Would
you like to be a tour guide? And I'm like, yes,
of course and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Wow, So do you have like obviously there were things
you had to memorize or had to know about the
blaze once you got started, because you didn't just like
walk in and know all the things.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh god, no, But yeah, I don't want to say
it's a script, but really I had to shadow the historian,
and then I shadowed the business manager a couple of times,
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and really I guess memorized what they said, but then
also had my own experiences being there while they were
giving the tours and that kind of I don't want
to say, monkey see, monkey do, but when you experience things,
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it kind of implants in your brain and you it's
a direct correlation with that experience to the story.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So so, now do these folks just walk in, get
the tour guide, and then walk out or is there
do they offer different packages? How does it work?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
So well, you can either do a mini hunt. With
a mini hunt, it's just you free roaming the building. Okay,
you can do a history tour, and a history tour
is where you get all of the history the whole
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breakdown on top of a walking tour of a sixty
thousand square foot building. Or you can do an overnight
and the overnight is you getting the history tour, the
walking tour, and you get to stay there from six
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o'clock in the evening to ten o'clock the next morning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Wow. When you hear my cat, why does it sound
like the cat is talking.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Like I'm telling you that's Mabel. That's Mabel. Mabel's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Wow, Okay, I believe everything now, So when it's hysterical.
So when you are in the process of going about
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your day and through the time period, through the time
period that you've been working there. First of all, what
was some of your early experiences in the building that
led you to realize that maybe this wasn't just a
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historical side.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
It was actually the very first time that I was
in the asylum, I walked through the front doors and
I felt like I was at my grandma's house. It
was a calm, the peace, like I could take my
shoes off and lay on the couch in the front
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room and take a nap. I felt that at home there,
if that makes sense. And then going down into the
basement basements, and I don't always see eye to eye.
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I don't want to say I have a I have
a healthy respect for basements. Okay, that's what I'm going
to say. But the basement there is like the Bermuda
Triangle for me. You can have one experience, one time
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that you're there, and then go upstairs and go to
the different levels and then come back downstairs and feel nothing.
So that's I mean, there's a lot of energy there.
You feel a lot. I felt a lot just walking
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in the front door. It was a wide range of emotions.
So that's I don't want to say that was the given,
but really walking through the front door and feeling like
I'm at my grandma's, yeah, that's proof enough for me
that there's something there.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, but it didn't stop there though. You've been there
for how long now?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
About four years now?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Wow? Yeah, that's a lot of time to connect, right
and right. So there's the asylum, there's a church. Is
there any other buildings connected.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
To this Stone mansion?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
The mansion? Okay, mm hmm, now the mansion. Actually, I
think I've heard some about the mansion already too.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, I like watching your wheels turn.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, because so here's the thing of It's like, you
got to remember, we've all had a lot of common
conversation about some of this stuff, and Austin has cleaned
me in before about some of the things with some
of these buildings. So I don't want to give way
too much of things. But at the same time, there
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are things that you personally have experienced that each one
of these that I'm sure is quite eye opening to
say the least.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yes, yeah, let's talk about what we can of your
personal experiences as time progressed with these these buildings.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, so with being a tour guide, you really make
it a personal experience, right like when you sign up
or when you put your deposits down and you set
up your time to do or overnight and now my okay, awesome. Anyway,
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you can pick who you want. If you want a
specific tour guide or a specific individual, then you can
ask for whomever. So anyway, I ended up but opening
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myself up to the spirits that are there and allowing
them to give the tour. So going in the basement
and then going to the first floor and second floor
having different experiences also potentially I don't want to say
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connecting with the overnight guests, but there are times where
their pasted over loved ones have come through and I'm like, hey,
did you lose your grandma? Like did your grandma just
pass and did she have black hair? And was she
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about four foot three? And you know? And they're like
seriously and I'm like yeah, They're like she died two
weeks ago, and I'm like, oh, Lord, have mercy. I'm sorry,
but this is what she wants you to know. And
a lot of times they're there's emotions that go with it,
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just like with anything. Last night, I had a group
from Ohio and it was an older couple that had
been together for like twenty five years and the woman
lost her son five years ago. He was shot by
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some crazy person in Cincinnati, Ohio. Anyway, she says that
he is always visiting her and she wanted some closure
and I was like, well, you have this big, burly
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guy behind you, and she goes taller than me and
I said yeah, I said, he's built like a linebacker
and she goes, that's my son, and I'm like yeah, yeah.
So it's I hate to say that happens all the time,
but nine times out of ten, it does, and I
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don't ask for it. I don't pry. I I don't
know any of these people, but yet they find me.
I like to say that the universe puts me exactly
where I need to be, exactly when I need to
be there, and that there coincidences.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I believe that. Sorry, I go now, No, you're doing great.
You know Here's and Here's what again, I mean, this
is your job. I mean, your daily thing that you
do is communicating with people about these properties. So it is.
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I'm sure it's very natural, and it sounds like with
your connection, you're you're very excited about what you do.
And I don't blame you, how I tell it you
It's fine, you know it, Here's and this is one
of the things. I've always thought about doing the same
thing with properties. Although, to be honest with you, where
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I live at now in Tennessee, it probably would not
be financially very good for me to try to move
into another job right now, because my job pretty much
has me locked in because of the money.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Right that's probably where that you do for Yeah, I
don't do it for the money. I do it because
I enjoy bo I enjoy being able to go to
these locations. I enjoy being able to experience the things
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that I get to experience. Right, It's kind of like
what Austin is doing with the Dead Chronicles, allowing people
to experience these locations when they otherwise wouldn't be able to.
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So it's allowing myself to be a part of an
amazing organization, but some amazing properties as well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well. Not only that, but I mean just the fact
that the company that you work for is saving own property.
I mean, obviously there's exactly there's the benefit of the
fact that these properties have come under ownership and care
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of people who intentionally and very lovingly have acquired these places,
and they've acquired them to keep them if you will alive.
So I mean, there's that. It's it's not like going
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to Chicago or someplace and you know, finding a company
that buys properties just to buy properties to do ghost
tours or whatever, you know, Right, these people actually have
a mission in what they do.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, And it actually started with the jail, the old
Blackford County jail. Dan and rich lived there. Richard actually
worked there and was a jailer and lived there, and
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they were going to the city, was going to tear
it down and make it into a parking lot or something.
Dan and Rich were like no, and everybody told them
that they were crazy, and they're like no, like, we're
gonna save this built thing, and they literally have.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
They literally have.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, Because I got to tell you, that's one of
the things that really gets me about, Like Nashville has
a habit of tearing down historic properties. There's places where,
you know, a lot of a lot of historic properties
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have been lost in Atlanta and other places. Although I
will give Atlanta props for the one thing you years ago,
they had this building what was left of it. It
was kind of like falling apart. It wasn't very well
taken care of, but they never tore it down at
that point. It was a building that and I forget
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who the author was, but it was a well known
author that wrote a very well known piece of fiction.
I can't believe. I don't remember the name of either
one of them right now.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
It's so well known.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I totally spaced it.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I almost when it was. It was some Gothic horror
I believe actually that was that was written there, and
the building like it It was kind of just like
a small unit rented out in this building that this
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person lived in. But the building, what was left of
it was just kind of leaning and kind of dilapidated.
But they still had it.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It was still standing, I hate to say, as long
as it was still standing. But at that point, what
do you do? You know, do you really want to
be that person that knocks it down? No, let's let
it fall down on its own, because it's going to right, right,
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don't push it, just let it fall naturally.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Right. So in your during your your line of your
daily lineup of tours and so forth, has anything ever
happened while you are giving a tour that like your
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your guests were kind of like, wait a minute, what
was that.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Every day of my life? Oh? Wow, No, no it really?
Oh god, So there was. And this was about a
year ago. There was a very first time group that
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came in. They had never investigated anywhere else, and they
were a blended family and things. I don't know, they
were kind of weird. Things were weird for me that day,
Like I don't want to say energetically off, but I
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felt very off that day. And I'm sitting there and
the couple is talking to me, and they're signing the
waiver and I'm like, so, where are you from? And
they're like, oh, we're from Lafayette and I'm like, I
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used to live in Lafayette. Like I can't I tell
you the amount of times that that happens. Days where
I'm not supposed to give tours and I get called, hey,
can you cover this, I'm like, yeah, sure. It's always
somebody from somewhere that I've used to live. I've lived
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so many different places in my thirty nine years, and
every time it's somebody from somewhere that I've used to live,
and they know exactly where I lived, exactly where I
went to school. Like it's like the universe is saying, hey, Okay,
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this is where you're supposed to be right now. It's
a nod right, and I would say something and this
particular group, I don't know, I kind of froze. I
felt like I was, Okay, you know the dream. I
don't know if maybe you've had this dream. I know
I personally haven't had it. But you are in the
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middle of an auditorium or you're on a stage and
everybody's looking at you and you're naked, and you're like,
what the heck, that's that's how I felt. I'm like,
oh my god, don't look at me. Don't look at me.
And I forgot everything that I was going to say,
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and I had to stop for a few minutes and
recompose myself and I'm like, okay, can we just walk
and talk? And the energy in that room period was overwhelming.
So that was a what in the heck, what in
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the world's going on here? Who are you? And what
have you done with our tour guide? But after they left,
I went back the next day because I had another tour,
and they left four post it notes singing my praises,
how it was their favorite tour guide and how they
can't wait to come back and experience our other properties.
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And I'm like, I totally dropped the ball on that one.
I felt like that was the worst tour I had
ever given in my entire existence. But apparently not.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And it's so funny, because you're your own worst critic,
right right, I've actually been to Lafayette a few times.
That's funny. It's too funny.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah. Yeah. To put it into a perspective, my family lived,
some of my family lived at one point in a
place called Georgetown, Illinois, Okay, which is not terribly far
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away from any of that area actually, surprisingly enough. So yeah, yeah,
so I do.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I do.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like, it's so funny, it's so funny. Wow. Yeah,
that puts a lot of things because you know, so,
so here's something that that you probably are familiar with
to Waska, Illinois.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So, And I don't even need to say anymore about
Wasuca because just bringing up the name tells tells you
everything about what I'm talking about with it. There's only
one thing that Waseca, Illinois is known for, because it's
really a tiny area. It's kind of one of the
places you drive through very quickly on your way somewhere.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Uh huh yeah, blink and you miss.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It, right. But it is also the town known for
one of the most well documented cases of possession in
American history. Now, let's qualify that really quickly. It's not
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the type of possession that we normally think about. Paul,
welcome back. It's not at all the type of possession
we normally think about. I'm not going to give a
lot of away. Go read a book. There is a
book out called The was Cicco Wonder it's a really
interesting story. But this is not about to not make possession.
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It's a different type of possession. Actually, I wouldn't even
consider it myself. I don't know what I would call it,
but it was a totally different thing. But anyway, that
whole area through there is just full of all kinds
of interesting energy.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's so the asylum and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
The no go ahead, go ahead, the asylum and what so.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The asylum, the jail, the church, all of that is
right there in that area. Wow. See I was always
for Actually we.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Are so we the asylum, the jail, the church, Stone mansion.
We are more towards Ohio.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Okay, So I have actually I've lived High Maple, I've
lived all over the state of Indiana.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Like my mom's family is from northern Indiana. Yeah, yeah,
so that area like Illinois area up near Lafayette and
stuff like that. My mom, her family is, she's got
a very old, old family and that's where her family
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is from. So when you talk about possessions and stuff
like that in that area, my yes, yes, a lot
of personal experiences that I have had have happened in
that area. So it it wasn't like I just drove
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by the asylum and said, hey, I want to go
and give a give tours here. You know, it's an
interesting building. It's something that I've always been interested in
since I was are we taught?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wow? And it's kind of imagine It's really interesting whenever
people go, you know, ask you what do you do
for a living? Do you ever just look at them
and go, oh, I work in an asylum?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
No? No, I tell them that I play with ghosts.
I say, I play with ghosts, is what I say.
And they're like what And I'm like, yeah, I hang
out with dead people.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
What I say?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Wow? And essentially that's kind of what your job is
in a way, is hanging out with dead people and
giving tours of their their living space.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Wow. So what right if somebody were to come to
you and say I really want two get involved in
working where you work, or or in the type of
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work that you do. What are the some of the
things that you would say to them, because I'm I'm
sure there's a tendency where you want to give them
some insight, but also maybe even some caution about how
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to approach these things, because you don't want to approach
it from the.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Wrong angle, and I don't want to answer this in
a wrong way. So if somebody were to ask me
how or what one you need to realize that there
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is an intense amount of time that goes into not
only giving tours, but also restoring. And I'm not talking
like renovating or anything like that. Like I go out
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and I paint, I I weed, eat odds, and ends
jobs like I don't want to call myself a groundskeeper
because not a groundskeeper. I text Dan and I'm like, hey,
what needs to be done? And I give. After giving
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eight hours of my time at my prime marry job,
I go and I give three or four hours on
top of that, and then I come home and I
take care of my kids and beat them dinner and
do all that other stuff. There is so much time
that goes into volunteering, okay, because that's what it is.
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You volunteer at these locations and you give yourself. It's
not oh, five minutes here, five minutes there. No, it's
I mean hours turn into days, turn into weeks, so
on and so forth. So you really have to love
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one the history, but you have to love the building.
Like if you don't enjoy it, then there's no point
because it sometimes it's a thankless job. Sometimes you feel
very unappreciated, but you feel that anywhere and everywhere. But
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really it's not about you being appreciated. It's about restoring
and preserving the history and the properties and making a
difference and sharing their stories and their history.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Oh yeah, well, in particular, I imagine it's really because here,
I mean, let's be real for a minute, Like, so
we're talking about the mansion itself is probably not It
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kind of stands out from the other properties because it's
a house. I mean, unless it has a really really
horrible reputation and it's history. You know, there are other
things about the other properties that kind of make people
go oh. I mean, prisons in jails are not normally
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places where people think of, as you know, sending a
lot of love and light to those buildings because they
usually represent very dark energy to people. Their immediate, their
immediant image of a jail is bad. It's bad.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
And the same way with you know, an asylum. I
mean the history of asylums, and I don't know what
the history or that one is in particular, but I know,
like I lived in Oregon for a while, and one
of the most notorious asylums in the country was an
Oregon at one point. As a matter of fact, it
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was there was documentaries made about some of the the
heinous things that happened in that building, you know. And
so asylums were typically not very pleasant places. They weren't
like you know when you.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, they weren't.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
No, not at all. And even Hollywood does not do
justice to the kinds of things that happened and the conditions, uh,
you know, asylums a lot of times were no better
than prisons in a sense. I mean that was there
(43:43):
was no there was no comfort. It was you were
literally locked away and shut away. Uh. And there were
very I mean the practices, the early practices.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Oh yeah, bottomizing people and waterboarding, water torture, things like that.
So at the Randolph County Asylum that was a poor
farm is exactly what it was. And asylum as in
a safe place, not a crazy hospital, not a mental institution.
(44:28):
And Stone Mansion. Stone Mansion is beautiful all in itself.
I call Stone Mansion Pandora's Box only because there's so
many different things that I still am not even scratching
(44:51):
the surface on Stone Mansion, you can go in and
you can hear things, I mean, see shadow figures, and
then leave and come back and be absolutely quiet. I
had a man talk to me in my ear as
(45:12):
I'm standing there making a cup of coffee and I
was the only one in the room.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I'm like, huh, like, what what did you just say?
To where I'm asking I'm calling across three rooms to ask, hey,
did you say something? And they're like no, Like are
you sure because it sounded like you No, it wasn't.
(45:45):
It's it's it's weird. I also, I guess I I
another reason why I have such a connection with Stone Mansion.
The owner, so the original owner, his wife's name just
happens to be Lydia as well.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
So I'm like, oh, a little soft spot in my heart.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
That's too funny. Wow. So let's I'm very hesitant to
talk about the church for several reasons. One because I
don't want to give too much away. Yeah, so people
will actually go and watch which the Dead Chronicles episode,
(46:38):
But oh.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
They better go watch the Dead Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Episode because it's an amazing episode, not just because I'm
in it, but because there's oh no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
There's an amazing passion project.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
It is, and there are moments in it that I
feel like Austin is so in that moment, you know
what I mean, it's like, Okay, yeah, he is really
invested in wanting to know, willing to know the story.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
But that anybody, but anybody that knows Austin knows that
he's really invested in knowing any story. Okay, he wants
to know the ins and outs the wise he may
(47:43):
not tell you, but that's exactly why he does what
he does, always looking for answers. Always Yeah, sorry, I'll
stop tooting his horn even though.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's okay, it's okay. So the bottom line though, is,
you know, regardless of what is really what the church
is really about and what's really at the church, the
preconceived notion when you attach Jim Jones to the building,
(48:26):
you know, people don't don't really think about the fact
that we're talking about baby and very young Jim Jones,
long before he was old enough to even really right.
I mean, it was he moved away from from going
(48:47):
to that church to being in a totally different environment
right when he stepped into becoming a pastor. So it
was the early connection to Jim Jones that that church has.
(49:07):
But a lot of people, yeah, again preconceived notions. So
what are some of the things, What are some of
the misguided things that people kind of their expectations and
so forth when they walk into that building. What is
(49:30):
it that they think when they first come in versus
when they leave?
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Hmm. One. A lot of times people either have watched
the YouTube episodes that are out saying, oh, demon, demon, demon, demon, demon,
(49:56):
that building. I my personal opinion, okay, and I will
stand on this until I die.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
I believe that there is some sort of because it
was a religious building, I believe that there is some
sort of I don't want to say portal, but there
is something there that kind of allows everything in per se,
(50:33):
if that makes sense. I don't believe that it's the
Demon Church. No, it's not because Jim Jones when he
went to church there he was two years old. Okay,
he was two up until he was sixteen, and that
(50:53):
I hate to say, wasn't the only church that he
attended because he was a churchhopper. He was an as
for being a church bopper, but it wasn't because he
wanted to go to different churches. It was because he
was he had a thirst for knowledge. Okay, he wanted
to learn everything that he could possibly learn. And when
(51:18):
you are young, your brain is a sponge, right, Like,
you want to learn everything that you can possibly learn
from anybody that's willing to give you that amount of attention. Right,
He's not getting the care at home, He's not getting
(51:38):
the attention at home. These people in the town are saying, hey,
come here, we'll feed you, we'll clothe you, will love you.
So he associated church with love and he tried to
bring that as he went about his way. But at
(52:05):
what point in time did he kind of flip and
take the love and make it more into hey power,
you know? I mean, because we can't just say it
was the drugs. There's got to be something that flipped
(52:29):
in his mind that made him go from one way
to another. Was it trauma? Could be, but we don't
know because he's not here.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Right right well, and if you did the if you
research what we do know about him and profile him
based on at his characteristics do line up with certain
(53:09):
certain diagnoses. So yeah, I think that's one of the
things that we have to understand too, is that Jim
Jones the boy versus Jim Jones the man were very
different people.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, Oh, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Were very different people. And that is the thing that
I think here and let me ask you. This was
the congregation that was at that church. Was it charismatic?
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Was Wesleyan? So they were more of a loving I
don't want to say like holy roller type stuff. Okay,
Like I'm not trying to say Apostolic or Pentecostal or
any of that. But it is a small town, all right,
(54:12):
like blink and you miss it, not really blink and
you miss it. But they've got maybe one major stoplight.
There's no grocery store. They've got a dollar General, okay,
like it's I mean a truck stop and then another
gas station. The school is elementary, junior, high, and high
(54:38):
school all in one building. Okay, So that's the population
of this town. It's a very small town. But yet
there are one, two, three, four, five churches in this
little town.
Speaker 5 (54:57):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Because I'm I'm not saying, oh Lord, please help me
bring God. God. God's going to bring the people, and
God's going to bring the business, you know it. No,
I feel like it was a community that couldn't decide
on what religion they wanted to practice, and so they
(55:19):
sprinkled a little of this, that and the other for everybody,
keep everybody happy.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Wow. So I think, yeah, I think it's very important
that we understand. And I guess that's one of the
things that you know, when when we look at I mean, uh,
I see an abandoned church building and I'm like, why
(55:50):
is that church no longer active? You know, what's what's
what happened here? But I think we we have to
understand that obviously. I mean, especially after the experience in Guyana,
I'm sure the reputation of that church was looked at
(56:13):
as kind of like, oh.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
He went here.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
So that's that's interesting that you say that, because the
the building literally sat empty for a year and a half.
The church left everything. There were still shoes, like we
cleaned out like churches have like a clothing area where
(56:45):
you can do donations and food pantry and things like that.
There were still shoes and clothes in this closet area.
There were toys that were left, the pews were left,
the hymnals, bibles, they held funerals, they did counseling sessions
(57:10):
at this church. Everything was left, decorations, I mean everything.
It was like, Okay, we'll come back and get the stuff,
and they never came back and got it. So when
we acquired the building, the building was shut up, locked
(57:30):
up tight. We opened it up, spread light in there,
and as soon as we got in there, I mean
it was moldy, there was water damage, there was all
kinds of stuff, but everything there was still there. I
mean the pulpit, the registry, everything. So why leave all
(57:54):
of that stuff for what purpose? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Right, It's kind of like, well, yeah, because that's kind
of like very Amityville horror ish in a way, like
we're just going to leave everything and forget Yeah, right, right?
So you know, was it did the congregation just diminished
(58:27):
to the point where they just didn't care anymore? You know?
Was it one of those things where it became stale
as dagnant.
Speaker 4 (58:37):
There is another church, they say because Dan, the owner
of the and the the president of saving the old properties,
he did some research and he found that the congregation
that the church went to a new building, not a
new building, but a new to them building. So if
(59:01):
you go to a new building, why are you leaving
your things in your old building. What's the story behind that?
And that's one thing that nobody is talking about any
time that we try to get information about that church,
(59:22):
the history, the denominations that were there, things like that,
the people, the congregation, things like that. No, no, no, no, no.
Nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody wants to talk
about it because the association with Jim Jones.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Wow, that is so sad. That is so sad.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
It is it is because that's part of history. I'm
not saying that what he did was good by any means,
but you don't learn from history if you act like
it doesn't exist, right, Like, how do we learn if
we don't talk about it?
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
But it's not just go away, right.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It is very true, very true. I find all of
this very interesting. And I got to tell you, coming
from the perspective of somebody who who enjoys not only
(01:00:40):
historical places, but the paranormal as well. Of course for
most of us, for those things go hand in hand.
For me, it's a very it's very good, very insightful,
and very helpful to have a chance to actually speak
with somebody who's in the industry who has the experience
(01:01:04):
of being a part of the the just the experience
and stuff. I mean, there's so many things I could
say about all of that, because again, like I said,
I take it very personally and very and find very
(01:01:31):
big importance in the people who are part of the
properties that I go to or part of you know,
or even you know, regardless of whether it's a cavern
or a home or a business or whatever anything where
(01:01:54):
I'm going and I'm doing tours, and like I said,
I hate self guided tours. I'd much rather have the
personal tour every time. Ah. So with that, I think
it's it's for me. It feels it's very enlightening to
(01:02:17):
get to actually hear some firsthand experiences and get to
know more about your side of it from you because
I know it's you know, it's very rare that we
get very few people ever like go up to their
(01:02:40):
tour guide at the end of a tour, you know,
and interview them. It just does not happen, you know,
So we just kind of leave.
Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
And no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
We we just kind of leave, and you know, we
we enjoyed the experience, we enjoyed the connection. But after that,
you know, you guys have another tour, so it's not
like we've got time to jump in and get to
know all the things about you. So this is a
very rare opportunity and a very uh an opportunity that
(01:03:12):
I find very helpful. And actually now I'm considering uh
taking off at some point and then when I can,
and going up and touring some of your properties.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Now, hey, I say, right, I know, right.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I would like to gather up a small group and
do an overnight investigation because what you guys have like
quite a five to six person limit to what is
what's the limit?
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
So at the asylum you can do up to I
believe it's fifteen people. But here's the thing. When you
are at the asylum, because the asylum is four stories
sixty thousand square feet, we find that the more people
(01:04:18):
that you introduce, the less activity you get. But also
to each their own right, Like if you want to
come in with twenty people, then that's on you. But
don't gripe and complain because you didn't get any evidence
(01:04:40):
because all you do is this is this is that
you know. So less is more, right definitely, so it
doesn't matter. And there I go, Okay, the asylum fifteen
(01:05:01):
twenty people. Stone Mansion. I believe ten people. The jail
is fifteen people.
Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yeah, wow wow.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
It would be good to be able to get a
small group together and go to an overnight at those properties.
Once again, is there is there a website for the properties?
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I can't hear you?
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Oh? Is there is there a website for the properties?
Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
And you froze?
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
I froze?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
It is saving the Yeah, yeah, you froze, and I
think I froze. So there is a Facebook? Can you
hear me?
Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I can?
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Okay, So we have a Facebook. It is the Randolph
County Asylum that's on Facebook. The Stone Mansion has its
own Facebook. But there is a phone number that you
can call. Can I plug the phone number?
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
It's seven six' five eight eight eight seven three. Zero
and you'll, lord, okay there we, Go there we. Go
you'll talk To kate and ask her what dates we
(01:06:51):
have available for any of our seven. Locations and we
book up to a year in. Advance so the weekends
are typically the ones that go, first.
Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
And then.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Weekdays but if anybody ever has an opportunity to come To, Winchester,
indiana take. It it's a good.
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Time, definitely. Definitely so, okay WELL i tell you what
we are at a little over in our mark. NOW
i want to thank you for coming on. TONIGHT i appreciate.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
You so, Much, daniel thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Me but LIKE i, said this is not only do
we get an opportunity to get to know a little
bit more about the people who help make our, time
our free, time more, enjoyable but we got to know
a little bit more about, you and we got to
(01:08:03):
know about the properties, tonight AND i think those are
all things that are very Worth this was a very
impromptu interview actually BECAUSE i had a, cancelation SO i was,
LIKE i can finally go in and try to plug
(01:08:23):
this one in Because i've been willing to do this
for a while. Now, yes, yes So i'm very grateful for.
That SO i really appreciate you joining us. Tonight and
if you will hold on for just a minute in the,
Back i'm going to close us out And i'll get
right back to. You, yes all, right, guys there you have,
(01:08:53):
It and thank You pam for putting all that. UP
i want to apologize for not really doing the thing
with the chat. Tonight my keyboard and mouse went out
on me, today and SO i would HAVE i was
trying not to distract myself by using the my, laptop
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so and my replacement keyboard came in just AS i
was getting ready to start the, show SO i was
not able to actually like follow the chat LIKE i
normally do because my keyboard. Issues but, anyway it, happens you,
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know it. Happens so with, that, guys don't forget go
On magical journey dot com to check out all the information.
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brand including a spelling change that's coming. Up and, yes new.
Merch there will be new. Merch let me tell you
though this my hat never. DID i never did correct
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the fact that my hat is doing that broad thing.
Today but This i'm going to keep the old some
of the old merch on the store because, this this
this logo is still going to be around somewhat in
its own. Way it still will have a, Life but
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there will be new merch coming out to match.
Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
The.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Branding it will all make sense sooner or. LATER i promise, you,
guys it will all make sense sooner or. Later, ANYWAY
i appreciate you, guys thank you for coming. OUT i
really Appreciate lydia for coming on and giving us a
lot of great. INFORMATION i really want to go to
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these properties. Now i've been wanting to go to but
now That i've actually talked to, her NOW i really
want to go to these. Properties so between now and
sometime next year when it depending on HOW i work MY,
pto this is going to be a. Thing, Anyway thank
you guys, again and joy the rest of your weekend
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and your journey always be.
Speaker 8 (01:12:06):
Magical waited for.
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through the walls and battles that were, Lost we're born
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together runs for it still Fifteenth, sunday how it ends.
Speaker 8 (01:13:04):
For we must still the.
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Rover we must have been suffer up pass like
Love love mann never any love, oh my mom.
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My, mom mo mon my am not.
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And hello and welcome to Magical Journey Podcast. Can you
guys hear me? Okay, I'm real paranoid after a couple
of weeks ago with my note, my extra noise started
all of a sudden, and I'm assuming you can because
(02:37):
nobody's say an ouch, awesome, thank you bam. All right,
So tonight I have a really really great, uh just
unexpected and I think pretty awesome topic for you guys tonight.
(02:59):
But before we get to that, I want to throw
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all things Magical Journey. We will be eventually, I want
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(03:21):
the website. The new website is actually up to give
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(03:44):
much better I think, format than the current website. Both
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is my hat doing tonight? Good? Lord, I'm a messheal.
The new branding is going well. It's going well. When
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you guys get it, let me know when you see
it the change some of your know. Don't spoil it
for the ones that don't anyway. Also, I want to
give a shout out this week. My mind, Jenny's birthday
was this week, So this week, all week long, we
(04:28):
were doing Genny Week. It is Jenny's Birthday week, so
we're going to make sure that we call that out
and have fun with it. You guys, celebrate her and
celebrate this really great, great addition to our family. Also,
speaking of which, I've got Mike up with me today.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
My tumbling is my favorite thing here and it comes
from Mystical Mountain Creations, which is Jenny and Mike's shop.
Mm hmm. Makes her say that so much better because
that was made with love. All Right, I'm through rambling
right now because I want to bring on my guests
(05:12):
I'm excited about. I want you guys to get a
chance to get to know her. Ladies and gentlemen tonight
I want to bring to the stage. Are you ready?
Can you guess? Pam knows already? Lydia carpenter. Ay, oh yeah,
(05:40):
you can hear me, Hey, Lydia, I can hear you perfectly. Hey,
so Lydia, tell tell our folks about a little about you,
what who you are, what you do?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Oh goodness, Hi, yeah, I'm Lydia.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Uh I am.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I'm a tour guide for saving the old properties. They
own the Randolph County Asylum in Winchester, Indiana. They own
the Stone Mansion, the Boyhood Church of be friend Jim Jones,
(06:24):
the old Blackford County Jail.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I'm making those faces. I'm making those faces because oh,
boyfriend's gonna say, who's that?
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I know.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's fun. That's fun.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Oh wait, you missed my cat Mabel. Oh hey, can
I say happy birthday to jail? Happy birthday, Jenny.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So coincidentally, speaking of I hear you, Katie, speaking of
the church that was Boyhood Jim Jones was was actually
(07:29):
raised sort of in that church.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
That building was featured on the latest episode of The
Dead Chronicles. So you guys go check that out afterwards.
Definitely go check that out afterwards. Uh. I was fortunate
enough to be featured in there as well, talking about
(07:54):
Jim Jones. But we're going to tonight job, by the way,
thank you, tonight is we're going to do a couple
of things a little differently than we normally do. First
of all, I have never interviewed somebody who does your
job before, and yet it's a job that I personally
(08:19):
look for people doing. Like if I see a place
that says like it's a self guided tour, I just
check it off the list already, don't even bother going there,
because you guys are what makes the tour, I think.
(08:41):
So this is a chance for us to get to
know firsthand what that's like. But also the little areas
that you're talking about here, which aren't very little. By
the way, you get an extra bonus of having paranormal
(09:02):
experiences in these historical buildings. So we want to dive
into that for a few minutes. I want to know
what is First of all, tell me what it's like
to work in these buildings.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Wow, it's it's fun. It's exciting, not creepy at all.
But also in order to work, work work, because it's
not work, it's fun. I have fun when I'm doing it.
(09:44):
Being there is an experience all in itself. So it
you have to be there in order to understand what.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I'm saying, right, right, So, how how did you get?
Like did you just wake up one day and say,
you know, I think I want to be a tour
guide for a haunted place.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
No, actually, I was working a secondary job. Well, first,
let me preface this by saying that I drove by
the Randolph County Asylum every single day for years when
it was closed, seriously, like when it was closed before
(10:33):
Saving Deal Properties purchased it. I'd always see a light
on in the building and nobody was there. We closed
our doors in mid two thousand and six, early two
thousand and seven, and there was a light on in
the building. Okay, For some reason, I keep thinking there's
(10:57):
a light over in the Midstein Place. Sorry Rocky Horror
Picture show anyway, but I'd always see a light on,
and something always drew me to that place, if that
makes sense. But I was working at a gas station
(11:20):
across the street from the factory that is my primary job,
and the business manager wearing a shirt and she was
like buying her cigarettes and I was asking about the
shirt and asking how much tours were and things like that,
(11:42):
and she said, well, you've got a great personality. Would
you like to be a tour guide? And I'm like, yes,
of course and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Wow, So do you have like obviously there were things
you had to memorize or had to know about the
blaze once you got started, because you didn't just like
walk in and know all the things.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Oh god, no, But yeah, I don't want to say
it's a script, but really I had to shadow the historian,
and then I shadowed the business manager a couple of times,
(12:35):
and really I guess memorized what they said, but then
also had my own experiences being there while they were
giving the tours and that kind of I don't want
to say, monkey see, monkey do, but when you experience things,
(13:00):
it kind of implants in your brain and you it's
a direct correlation with that experience to the story.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So so, now do these folks just walk in, get
the tour guide, and then walk out or is there
do they offer different packages? How does it work?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
So well, you can either do a mini hunt. With
a mini hunt, it's just you free roaming the building. Okay,
you can do a history tour, and a history tour
is where you get all of the history the whole
(13:47):
breakdown on top of a walking tour of a sixty
thousand square foot building. Or you can do an overnight
and the overnight is you getting the history tour, the
walking tour, and you get to stay there from six
(14:07):
o'clock in the evening to ten o'clock the next morning.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Wow. When you hear my cat, why does it sound
like the cat is talking.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Like I'm telling you that's Mabel. That's Mabel. Mabel's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Wow, Okay, I believe everything now, So when it's hysterical.
So when you are in the process of going about
(14:53):
your day and through the time period, through the time
period that you've been working there. First of all, what
was some of your early experiences in the building that
led you to realize that maybe this wasn't just a
(15:13):
historical side.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
It was actually the very first time that I was
in the asylum, I walked through the front doors and
I felt like I was at my grandma's house. It
was a calm, the peace, like I could take my
shoes off and lay on the couch in the front
(15:39):
room and take a nap. I felt that at home there,
if that makes sense. And then going down into the
basement basements, and I don't always see eye to eye.
(16:01):
I don't want to say I have a I have
a healthy respect for basements. Okay, that's what I'm going
to say. But the basement there is like the Bermuda
Triangle for me. You can have one experience, one time
(16:23):
that you're there, and then go upstairs and go to
the different levels and then come back downstairs and feel nothing.
So that's I mean, there's a lot of energy there.
You feel a lot. I felt a lot just walking
(16:45):
in the front door. It was a wide range of emotions.
So that's I don't want to say that was the given,
but really walking through the front door and feeling like
I'm at my grandma's, yeah, that's proof enough for me
that there's something there.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Yeah, but it didn't stop there though. You've been there
for how long now?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
About four years now?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Wow? Yeah, that's a lot of time to connect, right
and right. So there's the asylum, there's a church. Is
there any other buildings connected.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
To this Stone mansion?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
The mansion? Okay, mm hmm, now the mansion. Actually, I
think I've heard some about the mansion already too.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Yeah. Yeah, Actually, I like watching your wheels turn.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Well, because so here's the thing of It's like, you
got to remember, we've all had a lot of common
conversation about some of this stuff, and Austin has cleaned
me in before about some of the things with some
of these buildings. So I don't want to give way
too much of things. But at the same time, there
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are things that you personally have experienced that each one
of these that I'm sure is quite eye opening to
say the least.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yes, yeah, let's talk about what we can of your
personal experiences as time progressed with these these buildings.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, so with being a tour guide, you really make
it a personal experience, right like when you sign up
or when you put your deposits down and you set
up your time to do or overnight and now my okay, awesome. Anyway,
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you can pick who you want. If you want a
specific tour guide or a specific individual, then you can
ask for whomever. So anyway, I ended up but opening
(19:53):
myself up to the spirits that are there and allowing
them to give the tour. So going in the basement
and then going to the first floor and second floor
having different experiences also potentially I don't want to say
(20:19):
connecting with the overnight guests, but there are times where
their pasted over loved ones have come through and I'm like, hey,
did you lose your grandma? Like did your grandma just
pass and did she have black hair? And was she
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about four foot three? And you know? And they're like
seriously and I'm like yeah, They're like she died two
weeks ago, and I'm like, oh, Lord, have mercy. I'm sorry,
but this is what she wants you to know. And
a lot of times they're there's emotions that go with it,
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just like with anything. Last night, I had a group
from Ohio and it was an older couple that had
been together for like twenty five years and the woman
lost her son five years ago. He was shot by
(21:26):
some crazy person in Cincinnati, Ohio. Anyway, she says that
he is always visiting her and she wanted some closure
and I was like, well, you have this big, burly
(21:49):
guy behind you, and she goes taller than me and
I said yeah, I said, he's built like a linebacker
and she goes, that's my son, and I'm like yeah, yeah.
So it's I hate to say that happens all the time,
but nine times out of ten, it does, and I
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don't ask for it. I don't pry. I I don't
know any of these people, but yet they find me.
I like to say that the universe puts me exactly
where I need to be, exactly when I need to
be there, and that there coincidences.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I believe that. Sorry, I go now, No, you're doing great.
You know Here's and Here's what again, I mean, this
is your job. I mean, your daily thing that you
do is communicating with people about these properties. So it is.
(22:58):
I'm sure it's very natural, and it sounds like with
your connection, you're you're very excited about what you do.
And I don't blame you, how I tell it you
It's fine, you know it, Here's and this is one
of the things. I've always thought about doing the same
thing with properties. Although, to be honest with you, where
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I live at now in Tennessee, it probably would not
be financially very good for me to try to move
into another job right now, because my job pretty much
has me locked in because of the money.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Right that's probably where that you do for Yeah, I
don't do it for the money. I do it because
I enjoy bo I enjoy being able to go to
these locations. I enjoy being able to experience the things
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that I get to experience. Right, It's kind of like
what Austin is doing with the Dead Chronicles, allowing people
to experience these locations when they otherwise wouldn't be able to.
(24:28):
So it's allowing myself to be a part of an
amazing organization, but some amazing properties as well.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well. Not only that, but I mean just the fact
that the company that you work for is saving own property.
I mean, obviously there's exactly there's the benefit of the
fact that these properties have come under ownership and care
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of people who intentionally and very lovingly have acquired these places,
and they've acquired them to keep them if you will alive.
So I mean, there's that. It's it's not like going
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to Chicago or someplace and you know, finding a company
that buys properties just to buy properties to do ghost
tours or whatever, you know, Right, these people actually have
a mission in what they do.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah, And it actually started with the jail, the old
Blackford County jail. Dan and rich lived there. Richard actually
worked there and was a jailer and lived there, and
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they were going to the city, was going to tear
it down and make it into a parking lot or something.
Dan and Rich were like no, and everybody told them
that they were crazy, and they're like no, like, we're
gonna save this built thing, and they literally have.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
They literally have.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, Because I got to tell you, that's one of
the things that really gets me about, Like Nashville has
a habit of tearing down historic properties. There's places where,
you know, a lot of a lot of historic properties
(26:49):
have been lost in Atlanta and other places. Although I
will give Atlanta props for the one thing you years ago,
they had this building what was left of it. It
was kind of like falling apart. It wasn't very well
taken care of, but they never tore it down at
that point. It was a building that and I forget
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who the author was, but it was a well known
author that wrote a very well known piece of fiction.
I can't believe. I don't remember the name of either
one of them right now.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
It's so well known.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I totally spaced it.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I almost when it was. It was some Gothic horror
I believe actually that was that was written there, and
the building like it It was kind of just like
a small unit rented out in this building that this
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person lived in. But the building, what was left of
it was just kind of leaning and kind of dilapidated.
But they still had it.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It was still standing, I hate to say, as long
as it was still standing. But at that point, what
do you do? You know, do you really want to
be that person that knocks it down? No, let's let
it fall down on its own, because it's going to right, right,
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don't push it, just let it fall naturally.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Right. So in your during your your line of your
daily lineup of tours and so forth, has anything ever
happened while you are giving a tour that like your
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your guests were kind of like, wait a minute, what
was that.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Every day of my life? Oh? Wow, No, no it really?
Oh god, So there was. And this was about a
year ago. There was a very first time group that
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came in. They had never investigated anywhere else, and they
were a blended family and things. I don't know, they
were kind of weird. Things were weird for me that day,
Like I don't want to say energetically off, but I
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felt very off that day. And I'm sitting there and
the couple is talking to me, and they're signing the
waiver and I'm like, so, where are you from? And
they're like, oh, we're from Lafayette and I'm like, I
(29:56):
used to live in Lafayette. Like I can't I tell
you the amount of times that that happens. Days where
I'm not supposed to give tours and I get called, hey,
can you cover this, I'm like, yeah, sure. It's always
somebody from somewhere that I've used to live. I've lived
(30:22):
so many different places in my thirty nine years, and
every time it's somebody from somewhere that I've used to live,
and they know exactly where I lived, exactly where I
went to school. Like it's like the universe is saying, hey, Okay,
(30:47):
this is where you're supposed to be right now. It's
a nod right, and I would say something and this
particular group, I don't know, I kind of froze. I
felt like I was, Okay, you know the dream. I
don't know if maybe you've had this dream. I know
I personally haven't had it. But you are in the
(31:10):
middle of an auditorium or you're on a stage and
everybody's looking at you and you're naked, and you're like,
what the heck, that's that's how I felt. I'm like,
oh my god, don't look at me. Don't look at me.
And I forgot everything that I was going to say,
(31:34):
and I had to stop for a few minutes and
recompose myself and I'm like, okay, can we just walk
and talk? And the energy in that room period was overwhelming.
So that was a what in the heck, what in
(31:57):
the world's going on here? Who are you? And what
have you done with our tour guide? But after they left,
I went back the next day because I had another tour,
and they left four post it notes singing my praises,
how it was their favorite tour guide and how they
can't wait to come back and experience our other properties.
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And I'm like, I totally dropped the ball on that one.
I felt like that was the worst tour I had
ever given in my entire existence. But apparently not.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
And it's so funny, because you're your own worst critic,
right right, I've actually been to Lafayette a few times.
That's funny. It's too funny.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Seriously.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah. Yeah. To put it into a perspective, my family lived,
some of my family lived at one point in a
place called Georgetown, Illinois, Okay, which is not terribly far
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away from any of that area actually, surprisingly enough. So yeah, yeah,
so I do.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
I do.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It's like, it's so funny, it's so funny. Wow. Yeah,
that puts a lot of things because you know, so,
so here's something that that you probably are familiar with
to Waska, Illinois.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So, And I don't even need to say anymore about
Wasuca because just bringing up the name tells tells you
everything about what I'm talking about with it. There's only
one thing that Waseca, Illinois is known for, because it's
really a tiny area. It's kind of one of the
places you drive through very quickly on your way somewhere.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Uh huh yeah, blink and you miss.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It, right. But it is also the town known for
one of the most well documented cases of possession in
American history. Now, let's qualify that really quickly. It's not
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the type of possession that we normally think about. Paul,
welcome back. It's not at all the type of possession
we normally think about. I'm not going to give a
lot of away. Go read a book. There is a
book out called The was Cicco Wonder it's a really
interesting story. But this is not about to not make possession.
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It's a different type of possession. Actually, I wouldn't even
consider it myself. I don't know what I would call it,
but it was a totally different thing. But anyway, that
whole area through there is just full of all kinds
of interesting energy.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's so the asylum and.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
The no go ahead, go ahead, the asylum and what so.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The asylum, the jail, the church, all of that is
right there in that area. Wow. See I was always
for Actually we.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Are so we the asylum, the jail, the church, Stone mansion.
We are more towards Ohio.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
Okay, So I have actually I've lived High Maple, I've
lived all over the state of Indiana.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Like my mom's family is from northern Indiana. Yeah, yeah,
so that area like Illinois area up near Lafayette and
stuff like that. My mom, her family is, she's got
a very old, old family and that's where her family
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is from. So when you talk about possessions and stuff
like that in that area, my yes, yes, a lot
of personal experiences that I have had have happened in
that area. So it it wasn't like I just drove
(36:52):
by the asylum and said, hey, I want to go
and give a give tours here. You know, it's an
interesting building. It's something that I've always been interested in
since I was are we taught?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Wow? And it's kind of imagine It's really interesting whenever
people go, you know, ask you what do you do
for a living? Do you ever just look at them
and go, oh, I work in an asylum?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
No? No, I tell them that I play with ghosts.
I say, I play with ghosts, is what I say.
And they're like what And I'm like, yeah, I hang
out with dead people.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
What I say?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Wow? And essentially that's kind of what your job is
in a way, is hanging out with dead people and
giving tours of their their living space.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Wow. So what right if somebody were to come to
you and say I really want two get involved in
working where you work, or or in the type of
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work that you do. What are the some of the
things that you would say to them, because I'm I'm
sure there's a tendency where you want to give them
some insight, but also maybe even some caution about how
(38:37):
to approach these things, because you don't want to approach
it from the.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Wrong angle, and I don't want to answer this in
a wrong way. So if somebody were to ask me
how or what one you need to realize that there
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is an intense amount of time that goes into not
only giving tours, but also restoring. And I'm not talking
like renovating or anything like that. Like I go out
(39:34):
and I paint, I I weed, eat odds, and ends
jobs like I don't want to call myself a groundskeeper
because not a groundskeeper. I text Dan and I'm like, hey,
what needs to be done? And I give. After giving
(39:57):
eight hours of my time at my prime marry job,
I go and I give three or four hours on
top of that, and then I come home and I
take care of my kids and beat them dinner and
do all that other stuff. There is so much time
that goes into volunteering, okay, because that's what it is.
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You volunteer at these locations and you give yourself. It's
not oh, five minutes here, five minutes there. No, it's
I mean hours turn into days, turn into weeks, so
on and so forth. So you really have to love
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one the history, but you have to love the building.
Like if you don't enjoy it, then there's no point
because it sometimes it's a thankless job. Sometimes you feel
very unappreciated, but you feel that anywhere and everywhere. But
(41:08):
really it's not about you being appreciated. It's about restoring
and preserving the history and the properties and making a
difference and sharing their stories and their history.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Oh yeah, well, in particular, I imagine it's really because here,
I mean, let's be real for a minute, Like, so
we're talking about the mansion itself is probably not It
(41:49):
kind of stands out from the other properties because it's
a house. I mean, unless it has a really really
horrible reputation and it's history. You know, there are other
things about the other properties that kind of make people
go oh. I mean, prisons in jails are not normally
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places where people think of, as you know, sending a
lot of love and light to those buildings because they
usually represent very dark energy to people. Their immediate, their
immediant image of a jail is bad. It's bad.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
And the same way with you know, an asylum. I
mean the history of asylums, and I don't know what
the history or that one is in particular, but I know,
like I lived in Oregon for a while, and one
of the most notorious asylums in the country was an
Oregon at one point. As a matter of fact, it
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was there was documentaries made about some of the the
heinous things that happened in that building, you know. And
so asylums were typically not very pleasant places. They weren't
like you know when you.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, they weren't.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
They weren't.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
No, not at all. And even Hollywood does not do
justice to the kinds of things that happened and the conditions, uh,
you know, asylums a lot of times were no better
than prisons in a sense. I mean that was there
(43:43):
was no there was no comfort. It was you were
literally locked away and shut away. Uh. And there were
very I mean the practices, the early practices.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
Oh yeah, bottomizing people and waterboarding, water torture, things like that.
So at the Randolph County Asylum that was a poor
farm is exactly what it was. And asylum as in
a safe place, not a crazy hospital, not a mental institution.
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And Stone Mansion. Stone Mansion is beautiful all in itself.
I call Stone Mansion Pandora's Box only because there's so
many different things that I still am not even scratching
(44:51):
the surface on Stone Mansion, you can go in and
you can hear things, I mean, see shadow figures, and
then leave and come back and be absolutely quiet. I
had a man talk to me in my ear as
(45:12):
I'm standing there making a cup of coffee and I
was the only one in the room.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
I'm like, huh, like, what what did you just say?
To where I'm asking I'm calling across three rooms to ask, hey,
did you say something? And they're like no, Like are
you sure because it sounded like you No, it wasn't.
(45:45):
It's it's it's weird. I also, I guess I I
another reason why I have such a connection with Stone Mansion.
The owner, so the original owner, his wife's name just
happens to be Lydia as well.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
So I'm like, oh, a little soft spot in my heart.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
That's too funny. Wow. So let's I'm very hesitant to
talk about the church for several reasons. One because I
don't want to give too much away. Yeah, so people
will actually go and watch which the Dead Chronicles episode,
(46:38):
But oh.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
They better go watch the Dead Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Episode because it's an amazing episode, not just because I'm
in it, but because there's oh no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
There's an amazing passion project.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
It is, and there are moments in it that I
feel like Austin is so in that moment, you know
what I mean, it's like, Okay, yeah, he is really
invested in wanting to know, willing to know the story.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
But that anybody, but anybody that knows Austin knows that
he's really invested in knowing any story. Okay, he wants
to know the ins and outs the wise he may
(47:43):
not tell you, but that's exactly why he does what
he does, always looking for answers. Always Yeah, sorry, I'll
stop tooting his horn even though.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's okay, it's okay. So the bottom line though, is,
you know, regardless of what is really what the church
is really about and what's really at the church, the
preconceived notion when you attach Jim Jones to the building,
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you know, people don't don't really think about the fact
that we're talking about baby and very young Jim Jones,
long before he was old enough to even really right.
I mean, it was he moved away from from going
(48:47):
to that church to being in a totally different environment
right when he stepped into becoming a pastor. So it
was the early connection to Jim Jones that that church has.
(49:07):
But a lot of people, yeah, again preconceived notions. So
what are some of the things, What are some of
the misguided things that people kind of their expectations and
so forth when they walk into that building. What is
(49:30):
it that they think when they first come in versus
when they leave?
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Hmm. One. A lot of times people either have watched
the YouTube episodes that are out saying, oh, demon, demon, demon, demon, demon,
(49:56):
that building. I my personal opinion, okay, and I will
stand on this until I die.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (50:07):
I believe that there is some sort of because it
was a religious building, I believe that there is some
sort of I don't want to say portal, but there
is something there that kind of allows everything in per se,
(50:33):
if that makes sense. I don't believe that it's the
Demon Church. No, it's not because Jim Jones when he
went to church there he was two years old. Okay,
he was two up until he was sixteen, and that
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I hate to say, wasn't the only church that he
attended because he was a churchhopper. He was an as
for being a church bopper, but it wasn't because he
wanted to go to different churches. It was because he
was he had a thirst for knowledge. Okay, he wanted
to learn everything that he could possibly learn. And when
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you are young, your brain is a sponge, right, Like,
you want to learn everything that you can possibly learn
from anybody that's willing to give you that amount of attention. Right,
He's not getting the care at home, He's not getting
(51:38):
the attention at home. These people in the town are saying, hey,
come here, we'll feed you, we'll clothe you, will love you.
So he associated church with love and he tried to
bring that as he went about his way. But at
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what point in time did he kind of flip and
take the love and make it more into hey power,
you know? I mean, because we can't just say it
was the drugs. There's got to be something that flipped
(52:29):
in his mind that made him go from one way
to another. Was it trauma? Could be, but we don't
know because he's not here.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Right right well, and if you did the if you
research what we do know about him and profile him
based on at his characteristics do line up with certain
(53:09):
certain diagnoses. So yeah, I think that's one of the
things that we have to understand too, is that Jim
Jones the boy versus Jim Jones the man were very
different people.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, Oh, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Were very different people. And that is the thing that
I think here and let me ask you. This was
the congregation that was at that church. Was it charismatic?
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Was Wesleyan? So they were more of a loving I
don't want to say like holy roller type stuff. Okay,
Like I'm not trying to say Apostolic or Pentecostal or
any of that. But it is a small town, all right,
(54:12):
like blink and you miss it, not really blink and
you miss it. But they've got maybe one major stoplight.
There's no grocery store. They've got a dollar General, okay,
like it's I mean a truck stop and then another
gas station. The school is elementary, junior, high, and high
(54:38):
school all in one building. Okay, So that's the population
of this town. It's a very small town. But yet
there are one, two, three, four, five churches in this
little town.
Speaker 5 (54:57):
Right right.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
Because I'm I'm not saying, oh Lord, please help me
bring God. God. God's going to bring the people, and
God's going to bring the business, you know it. No,
I feel like it was a community that couldn't decide
on what religion they wanted to practice, and so they
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sprinkled a little of this, that and the other for everybody,
keep everybody happy.
Speaker 3 (55:27):
Wow. So I think, yeah, I think it's very important
that we understand. And I guess that's one of the
things that you know, when when we look at I mean, uh,
I see an abandoned church building and I'm like, why
(55:50):
is that church no longer active? You know, what's what's
what happened here? But I think we we have to
understand that obviously. I mean, especially after the experience in Guyana,
I'm sure the reputation of that church was looked at
(56:13):
as kind of like, oh.
Speaker 5 (56:17):
He went here.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
So that's that's interesting that you say that, because the
the building literally sat empty for a year and a half.
The church left everything. There were still shoes, like we
cleaned out like churches have like a clothing area where
(56:45):
you can do donations and food pantry and things like that.
There were still shoes and clothes in this closet area.
There were toys that were left, the pews were left,
the hymnals, bibles, they held funerals, they did counseling sessions
(57:10):
at this church. Everything was left, decorations, I mean everything.
It was like, Okay, we'll come back and get the stuff,
and they never came back and got it. So when
we acquired the building, the building was shut up, locked
(57:30):
up tight. We opened it up, spread light in there,
and as soon as we got in there, I mean
it was moldy, there was water damage, there was all
kinds of stuff, but everything there was still there. I
mean the pulpit, the registry, everything. So why leave all
(57:54):
of that stuff for what purpose? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
Right, It's kind of like, well, yeah, because that's kind
of like very Amityville horror ish in a way, like
we're just going to leave everything and forget Yeah, right, right?
So you know, was it did the congregation just diminished
(58:27):
to the point where they just didn't care anymore? You know?
Was it one of those things where it became stale
as dagnant.
Speaker 4 (58:37):
There is another church, they say because Dan, the owner
of the and the the president of saving the old properties,
he did some research and he found that the congregation
that the church went to a new building, not a
new building, but a new to them building. So if
(59:01):
you go to a new building, why are you leaving
your things in your old building. What's the story behind that?
And that's one thing that nobody is talking about any
time that we try to get information about that church,
(59:22):
the history, the denominations that were there, things like that,
the people, the congregation, things like that. No, no, no, no, no.
Nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody wants to talk
about it because the association with Jim Jones.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
Wow, that is so sad. That is so sad.
Speaker 4 (59:50):
It is it is because that's part of history. I'm
not saying that what he did was good by any means,
but you don't learn from history if you act like
it doesn't exist, right, Like, how do we learn if
we don't talk about it?
Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
But it's not just go away, right.
Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It is very true, very true. I find all of
this very interesting. And I got to tell you, coming
from the perspective of somebody who who enjoys not only
(01:00:40):
historical places, but the paranormal as well. Of course for
most of us, for those things go hand in hand.
For me, it's a very it's very good, very insightful,
and very helpful to have a chance to actually speak
with somebody who's in the industry who has the experience
(01:01:04):
of being a part of the the just the experience
and stuff. I mean, there's so many things I could
say about all of that, because again, like I said,
I take it very personally and very and find very
(01:01:31):
big importance in the people who are part of the
properties that I go to or part of you know,
or even you know, regardless of whether it's a cavern
or a home or a business or whatever anything where
(01:01:54):
I'm going and I'm doing tours, and like I said,
I hate self guided tours. I'd much rather have the
personal tour every time. Ah. So with that, I think
it's it's for me. It feels it's very enlightening to
(01:02:17):
get to actually hear some firsthand experiences and get to
know more about your side of it from you because
I know it's you know, it's very rare that we
get very few people ever like go up to their
(01:02:40):
tour guide at the end of a tour, you know,
and interview them. It just does not happen, you know,
So we just kind of leave.
Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
And no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
We we just kind of leave, and you know, we
we enjoyed the experience, we enjoyed the connection. But after that,
you know, you guys have another tour, so it's not
like we've got time to jump in and get to
know all the things about you. So this is a
very rare opportunity and a very uh an opportunity that
(01:03:12):
I find very helpful. And actually now I'm considering uh
taking off at some point and then when I can,
and going up and touring some of your properties.
Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Now, hey, I say, right, I know, right.
Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
I would like to gather up a small group and
do an overnight investigation because what you guys have like
quite a five to six person limit to what is
what's the limit?
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
So at the asylum you can do up to I
believe it's fifteen people. But here's the thing. When you
are at the asylum, because the asylum is four stories
sixty thousand square feet, we find that the more people
(01:04:18):
that you introduce, the less activity you get. But also
to each their own right, Like if you want to
come in with twenty people, then that's on you. But
don't gripe and complain because you didn't get any evidence
(01:04:40):
because all you do is this is this is that
you know. So less is more, right definitely, so it
doesn't matter. And there I go, Okay, the asylum fifteen
(01:05:01):
twenty people. Stone Mansion. I believe ten people. The jail
is fifteen people.
Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yeah, wow wow.
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
It would be good to be able to get a
small group together and go to an overnight at those properties.
Once again, is there is there a website for the properties?
Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I can't hear you?
Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Oh? Is there is there a website for the properties?
Speaker 5 (01:05:44):
And you froze?
Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
I froze?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
It is saving the Yeah, yeah, you froze, and I
think I froze. So there is a Facebook? Can you
hear me?
Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I can?
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Okay, So we have a Facebook. It is the Randolph
County Asylum that's on Facebook. The Stone Mansion has its
own Facebook. But there is a phone number that you
can call. Can I plug the phone number?
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
It's seven six' five eight eight eight seven three. Zero
and you'll, lord, okay there we, Go there we. Go
you'll talk To kate and ask her what dates we
(01:06:51):
have available for any of our seven. Locations and we
book up to a year in. Advance so the weekends
are typically the ones that go, first.
Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
And then.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Weekdays but if anybody ever has an opportunity to come To, Winchester,
indiana take. It it's a good.
Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Time, definitely. Definitely so, okay WELL i tell you what
we are at a little over in our mark. NOW
i want to thank you for coming on. TONIGHT i appreciate.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
You so, Much, daniel thank you for having.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Me but LIKE i, said this is not only do
we get an opportunity to get to know a little
bit more about the people who help make our, time
our free, time more, enjoyable but we got to know
a little bit more about, you and we got to
(01:08:03):
know about the properties, tonight AND i think those are
all things that are very Worth this was a very
impromptu interview actually BECAUSE i had a, cancelation SO i was,
LIKE i can finally go in and try to plug
(01:08:23):
this one in Because i've been willing to do this
for a while. Now, yes, yes So i'm very grateful for.
That SO i really appreciate you joining us. Tonight and
if you will hold on for just a minute in the,
Back i'm going to close us out And i'll get
right back to. You, yes all, right, guys there you have,
(01:08:53):
It and thank You pam for putting all that. UP
i want to apologize for not really doing the thing
with the chat. Tonight my keyboard and mouse went out
on me, today and SO i would HAVE i was
trying not to distract myself by using the my, laptop
(01:09:19):
so and my replacement keyboard came in just AS i
was getting ready to start the, show SO i was
not able to actually like follow the chat LIKE i
normally do because my keyboard. Issues but, anyway it, happens you,
(01:09:42):
know it. Happens so with, that, guys don't forget go
On magical journey dot com to check out all the information.
THERE i will keep you. Updated if you go onto
(01:10:04):
My facebook page For Magical journey the, GROUP i will
keep you updated there on the the journey into finalizing
are branding BECAUSE i am doing some changes with the,
(01:10:25):
brand including a spelling change that's coming. Up and, yes new.
Merch there will be new. Merch let me tell you
though this my hat never. DID i never did correct
(01:10:48):
the fact that my hat is doing that broad thing.
Today but This i'm going to keep the old some
of the old merch on the store because, this this
this logo is still going to be around somewhat in
its own. Way it still will have a, Life but
(01:11:10):
there will be new merch coming out to match.
Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
The.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Branding it will all make sense sooner or. LATER i promise, you,
guys it will all make sense sooner or. Later, ANYWAY
i appreciate you, guys thank you for coming. OUT i
really Appreciate lydia for coming on and giving us a
lot of great. INFORMATION i really want to go to
(01:11:38):
these properties. Now i've been wanting to go to but
now That i've actually talked to, her NOW i really
want to go to these. Properties so between now and
sometime next year when it depending on HOW i work MY,
pto this is going to be a. Thing, Anyway thank
you guys, again and joy the rest of your weekend
(01:12:02):
and your journey always be.
Speaker 8 (01:12:06):
Magical waited for.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
So long to see when you come back to me
through the walls and battles that were, Lost we're born
against you and. Me the rest is. History they danced,
(01:12:57):
together runs for it still Fifteenth, sunday how it ends.
Speaker 8 (01:13:04):
For we must still the.
Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Rover we must have been suffer up pass like
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